HardLore - 30th Episode Q&A Special

Episode Date: November 17, 2022

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Ready? Yeah. You got a, yeah. Got a what? What's your favorite Morrissey song? You want to start with that? Whatever, man. My, like, reflex answer is,

the world is full of crashing bores. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But I just made a playlist. I made a Morrissey playlist the other day. Did you? For old Brittany Miller, because she's a hater, and I was like, listen. Is she really?

That's surprising. But like she's not. You know? And then I was like, listen to these and you're good to go. Interesting. I got in here. Yeah, it just hits, man. He's got, I mean, there's something on every record.

Yeah. You know. Speedway was the song where I was like, I'm a fan of this. Yeah. Speedway is, that's my chest tattoo. Big, big speedy guy. I know. Not everybody reads, man. You know.

Everybody, yeah. Dude, dear God please help me, the Inyo Morricone track that they did. Oh my God, beautiful. I like, you have killed me a lot, but that's like that's a little song. As I live and breathe, you have killed me. Unbelievable. Incredible track. I loved me being like a 19 year old and hearing like Pavarati and me being like, I know exactly what he's talking about.

When Lana like stubs my toe or something, I hit her with you have killed me. No point saying this again. The last two tracks, the last song on, what's the fucking record after Quarry? Years of Refusal. The last song on Years of Refusal, I'm okay about myself. And the last song on Quarry that, you know I couldn't last. Those are way up there for me. I mean, yeah, you're the Quarries and years of refusal is fucking awesome.

It's like a punk record. It kind of is Black Cloud. Black Cloud. Black Cloud. But a hello, welcome. Yeah. Yeah. Who do we got today, Colin?

We got us, man. It's episode 30. This is a huge milestone. We're going to do a little Q&A, but we're also going to have a little chat first because Bo and I got to catch up a little. We got to catch up. We were talking about our favorite canceled things last week. And like before we started recording today,

I was like, it's, I mean, Morrissey's the best canceled thing. Yeah. Because he's like, every day somebody posts something about this guy that goes viral being like, this guy is a scumbag and he's garbage. And then you can't help but be like, as I live and breathe. Yeah. You have killed me. So, I mean, Morrissey's the best canceled thing ever.

I think, you know what? That's a really good answer. I think I don't think you can really. Still going. It's still going. Still selling out venues, still leaving early because it's cold out. Because he felt a chill. And then, but then as I live and breathe, you have killed me, you know?

There was a time when he was doing U.S. shows. He really likes Chicago. He like, I mean, I'm sure he tells that to all the cities. But like there's like a Chicago. Yeah, where he canceled a bunch of tours like in a row. And he lived in Chicago for like 16 weeks at this one spot. on Michigan Avenue and people would see him all the time. Wow.

And there's a story. I don't even remember the names, so it can't be offensive to anyone. There's a story about him going into the Burberry store and this guy who a friend of mine knew was working at Burberry. And he would just like come in and just like kind of shop and buy expensive things and not and blah blah, blah. But he kept visiting. And then one day he invited this guy to his where he was staying for Pesta. Fuck yeah. And the guy didn't like get it.

And he was like, oh, no, thank you. Would you let? I was just about to say, would you fuck Morrissey? Would you let Morrissey peg you? Is that what's going on? I guess it's not really pegging, is it? I'm, you know, I'm a married man. So I'm off the, I'm off the market for old Stephen.

Yeah. What about you? You getting pegged by Morris? No, I don't think so. I don't think. For the bit to like just. to talk about it on the show? I can firmly say maybe.

Probably not. Just to be like, dude. Guess what I did. I mean, you know, what is that one line that I heard that you try anything twice? That's about you getting pegged by Morrissey. He wrote that. Anyway.

So before we get into the Q&A, I got to tell you a story. Yeah, you do. I do. I'm supposed to be converted. So hit the button. I went to Vegas. I went to Vegas last weekend.

Right. The main reason I went was to go to the Zach Begans' haunted museum. Yes. I've heard great things. Big fan of Ghost Adventures, big fan of the whole Zach Began's franchise, frankly. Oh, I got you. So he's like directly involved. It's his.

Everything in there is his. Understood. So it's like he bought everything. He arranged. everything, he and his team. And there's like crazy shit in there. I'll just start from the top. So before we get in, Lana's like very uncomfortable.

Lana's my wife. I went with Lana and Brittany Miller, a friend of the show, Brittany Miller, featured in the haunt lore. Star of the show. Star of haunt lore. Our PA, Brittany Miller's here with us as well. Go back and check that out. Went with the two of them.

Lana's a scaredy cat, but she loves Zach Bagan. so she was like excited to do it. And then as we're going in, she's getting real nervous about it. Just because she's got the willies. She's got the CBGVs, you know? She's scared. And then, you know, she kind of gets assured like, you know, it's fun. Like it's nothing's going to happen.

No, nothing's going to pop out and grab you. There's no jump scares, you know, which was mostly true. But when we enter, you get into this room with a bunch of just like memorabilia. You know? It's just, and then it's kind of comforting. You're just like, oh, this is just this, some guy's stuff. I'm going to see some guy's stuff for two and a half hours, basically. Okay.

It flies by, I promise. The very first thing you do is go into this closet full of, like, haunted dolls, where it'll be like all of these dolls, every doll in this closet has been cited to have some sort of activity. And every guest or every visitor of the museum, anybody that's reported

seeing a doll do something has reported a different doll doing something essentially. And Lana at this point is just like, okay, I'm here for fun. So she's the first one in. She's the first one to be like, I'll go. Dope.

So even I'm like, this kind of feels kind of fucked up. Your body feels kind of fucked up. Your body feels, feels like 20 pounds heavier the whole time you're in this house. I can't describe it any other way other than you feel like a stronger gravitational pull. Anyway, you do two or three more rooms.

And at this point, I'm like, man, I feel weird. And Lana's the one who's like, I feel totally normal. Don't put that on me is her words. Like don't bring your bullshit over to me. And then we get to the Dr. Kavorkian room, which is two separate rooms. It's an office full of his like office supplies and stuff. Nice. And Dr. Kovorkian was, of course, very, very famously known as Dr. Death for having assisted in 200 plus like medical suicides.

And remind me, did he do it only to willing patients? Yes. Or did he also kill unwilling patients? Well, he did it to willing patients. but there are reports of some maybe in the last moments being like, wait, I don't want to do this. And those are, like, I'm jumping ahead here. Yeah, yeah.

But those are the ones who, when communicated via like spirit box or something like, they weren't ready. They spell out their names. Like, it'll be like fucking, I forget, there's exact, there's one that exact, like, said their last name on the spirit box. And then they looked it up and they were like, this is like one of the most famous ones that. apparently didn't actually want to die or something.

But in the office, you start out in there and they play this little video for you saying that like some people feel uncomfortable during this next part. And then you go into the next room where the actual little VW van was where all these suicides happened. Oh, they happened in a van? Yeah. I assume they happened in the hospital. No, it wasn't allowed to.

He wasn't allowed to do it. So he's doing back alley assisted suicides base. Right, but it's not like he's shooting people in the head. He was injecting them. Yeah, he's injecting them. And they have it set up with a dummy showing you like where it was positioned and like how the vials were. And it's basically the same thing is like if you're on death row and you get the thing. I assumed he was just doing that in the hospital.

Oh yeah. No. And was it was it like was he riding a gray area or was it like fully? Big time gray area. Big time grayer. Yeah. But like it wasn't it wasn't like. Was it illegal?

Yes. So he would advertise in newspapers like kind of subtly. Wow. From what I understand from the tour. But basically, when we get into the van room, Lana says, I feel like I'm going to pass out. And over the intercom, Zach starts narrating and says, many women specifically have noted that they feel like they're going to pass out in this room. And then Lana has to like leave. And they explain that like something about

One of these fucking spirits or or Dr. Kvorkin themselves like targeted women in in some way And when she when she has to leave she's like blacking out and like the the staff from the the museum are like are you okay like can we help get you somewhere and she says that when she's talking to them it sounds like a grenade is going I just went off. And like her ears are ringing and she can't hear what they're said. Are you freaking out at this point? This happens. She's like, hey,

I got to step out and that's all I see. Oh, so I don't see her for an hour because she steps out and you have to turn your phone off to be in there. So as far as I know, they're taking care of her. Of course. I'm definitely like, where the fucking?

You know? But I'm also like, this was really expensive. So, so they bring you into the, this like room of serial killer memorabilia right after that. And that's when Lana's like, I got to get out of here. And so she's, she's here.

It sounds like a grenade went off. Right. They're trying to guide her out and help her. And she just keeps saying like, I don't know what's going on. Like she's just so disoriented. And she finally sits down. And, and they explain to her like, hey, like this happens specifically with women in this room sometimes. Like you are not the first.

And then they like play a video where like a couple other women have fainted in the room. And one was one. You fine? Brittany was fine. But they specifically targeted Lana here. I guess it's like one per tour or something gets fucking

targeted. And one of them explained to her like hey like it's very possible that something latched on you in that moment. And that's why you were blacking out and like and couldn't really tell what was going on. Yeah.

Okay. And then, so she was outside for like an hour. And then Brittany and I went downstairs to the basement where like Jenna Jamison's family used to live in this house. Fuck yeah. And I guess her dad was part of some crazy occult shit. Okay. And there was like rituals and sacrifices done in the basement. And we go in that basement.

There's like a pentagram painting on the ground. There's a spirit box on. Yeah. Just kind of gnarly stuff. But nothing that really scared me until Lana kind of told me that story. Because I, she's total skeptic. Yeah. 100%.

And she's like, I don't know after what I just felt. So. That's it? Kind of. That's the story? I mean, kind of. If you were there, you would have, it would have really fucked with you, man. I'm telling you.

Colin texted me, hold on. The floor is mine now. All right. Take it. Colin texted me. It was like, I can't wait to tell you what happened to me in Las Vegas. And I was like, all right. I can't wait either.

And it was basically Lana had to go outside. It was not Lana had to go outside. Lana felt like she was going to pass out in the section where one second later, the narrator said sometimes women feel like they have to pass out in here. There have been reports. And then that happened. Like,

there was two, there's, that's no coincidence. That's what I'm saying. She was targeted by a specter. All right. You're going to deny? I'm going to say that I think people's minds do things to them.

Why do you get nervous when you meet? My body's going to do something to you. People get nervous when they meet fucking like celebrities and shit. And it's like they're just people. No. I mean, yeah, people get nervous. No, no, no, no, no, it's ever got. Nobody's ever got nervous.

But this is, I guess, you know, I think you and I have to go. I would go for sure. But I mean, that's certain, don't get me wrong. That's certainly something. It is something. See, I'm not going to, I can't say that, like, Lana didn't experience this X, Y, and Z. Does that mean that it was fucking, I don't, I don't think so. More than likely, yes.

I would say less. No, I would say more than likely there's how I'm leaning. Vegas was good otherwise? No, I lost thousands. I ate shit, man. I'll tell you. But I'm here now and I got a podcast still.

And this is episode 30 and it's a Q&A. I'm trying to think of what's been going on with me. What have been doing? Boy, a whole lot of nothing. Sleeping. I got that cleaning service. She did a great job.

So that happened and it was good? It was for what I paid, it was great. For what you paid, I would have farted in your face and left. If I would have paid the full price was $80. And if I would have paid the full price for what she did, I would have been pissed because it wasn't. Dude, you know how much it costs to get your apartment clean professionally for real? $20, apparently.

No, that's not right. You're a slaver. They paid her. It's just a voucher to get you. into the program. That's all. I don't think it is. She didn't get paid at all.

I'm still sick. I'm still talking like I got a ball in my throat. What the fuck is your problem, dude? Dude, this thing happens to where anytime I'm eating, food will, like, kind of go up into my nose? Because, like, something back there is so swollen

that I can't swallow properly. Like, I really don't, I don't know what's going on. It's been two months. It's been kind of crazy. So that's cool. I'm sick of it, frankly. I know.

I'm so sick of it. You take care of yourself, all right? You drink some water. That's all I do is drink fucking what's all I got. All right. Stop drinking water then. You think that's the problem? It's poisoned.

What kind of water you drink? Gatorade water, like sugar-free gatorade water? Yeah, but where's the water from? Filtered from my... I have a Brita. Maybe it changed the filter. I have, actually, since I was sick. I even got the, like, deluxe ones that filter out lead because God knows.

Lord knows what this is. building's got my building got bought so i'm going to probably have to move out soon yeah rip this you want to come to move in my spare bedroom or yeah maybe i should huh nope just me two cats like seven guitars come on brother not a chance um yeah so i got to figure that out probably by the end of the winter that's cool too that's brutal how many times we talked about on this show being like man my setup is unbelievable i've never leaving this place Yeah. And then one day I literally woke up to like, hey, just so you know, building got purchased. Here's the, like, the info of how to pay rent. I think with your whole black mold thing, you should be looking into some options.

The thing that really sucks is if Mr. Brother, I've never told the story of Mr. Brother on the show. Okay, this is one of my favorite stories ever. my landlord, my former landlord, who I had been renting for for 10 years in March, okay, or would have been 10 years in March, didn't know my name in like year five. And he called me. Did he lease the unit to you? Directly to me. Like your name is on every document. Every check I give him for five years.

He sees a bow and he goes, brother. So he is a Pakistani man. He's a practicing Muslim. So he calls out of respect, people, brother, whatever. There was a guy who used to do maintenance, and you'd call him brother, Asimand. His name was Asimand. But then also he knows he's like in a Western country.

Out of respect here, we say Mr. Right? It's kind of like, hello, Mr. Young, whatever. So he called one day and he left me a voicemail. And he said, hello, Mr. Brother, this is landlord. And ever since, it was just like, wow, Mr. Brother is like so awesome. Was Mr. Brother a one-time callout? He has called me Brother and he's called me Mr. Bo.

I don't know if Mr. Brother was ever used before, but I have it record. Like, I have it. But it was one time. It was one time, but like recorded. And I, like, couldn't believe it. Yeah, Mr. Brother is very funny. He also, he called Casey lived here for, you know, seven, eight years called her Kelsey. And then kitten.

And then one time, dude, one time he came in and was like looking around and he was like, she looks pretty today. I don't know why. Like in front of her. This man's a menace. So he's gone. That's cool. Yeah.

But what he could have done was he could have had me sign a year lease to protect me for a year at my current rent. Just. No. You're getting that 200. percent increase soon, brother. But what were we talking about before that? Ghosts and bullshit. Ghosts and bullshit.

Being sick, mold. Oh, yeah, you getting kicked out, essentially. Yeah, I'm getting kicked out for sure. So before you get evicted, we got to get this Q&A going. Should we do Twitter? Let's do Twitter first. You know, we left this up to you guys, and you delivered a little too hard. I'll be honest with you.

Hey, whoa. Here he comes. Spinning. Whoa. Very nice. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if there was something really embarrassing on this? I would just love that. Hit the DM button.

Hit the message. Yeah, yeah. Type P. Type P. Do it again. All right. What are your favorite non-heavy bands? What's the softest thing you like?

Me? Yeah. Other than Morrissey? Which is like, I feel like Morrissey's like not even surprising. No, it's like, boreline post-punk at this point. You know, it's just that's a natural pipeline. It really is. And I never understood, but it is.

It just is. You can't explain it. I mean, I'm a notorious Lady Gaga man. Oh, that's true. I remember also on the European tour, you were huge into Tate Swift. I loved speak now. Absolutely loved speaking now. Still do.

But after, I like Red. Yeah. After that, not really. she lost me once the country was gone I was out yeah for sure you know I love me I mostly listened to to film scores so like a like a homsimmer

earlier today I'm playing new world it's just a game they had fresh start service you're still playing that well they had fresh start servers so I like started over to kind of get myself back into it and I'm just like fully a game is so fucking good that's how I feel about vampire survivor

right now you're loving it that game rocks huh yeah I'm because I was playing an iPhone version called Survivor I. I got hooked on that because of you. Okay. And it's that vampire survivor is basically like the swagged out. Dude, when you sent it to me,

I told you there's a PC version of this that this is definitely ripping off. Oh, that's what you were talking about. Yeah. Okay. And goddamn. It's a mess. It's great. It's great.

Yeah. And the new world is very frontiersy, and I was reminded of the fucking last of the Mohicans. One of the greatest of all time. Dan-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-na. Unbelievable. One of the greatest ever. Who scored that, Howard?

Trevor Jones and Randy Edelman, I believe. Unbelievable. Yeah. So you're a film scores guy. Recently I'm getting into, when I do housework and, like, chores and errands and bullshit. I like to listen to just like, like, Brian Eno and like just like ambient nothing. So I got into that, that thing I sent you that

music for 18 musicians that is all analog. But it's like woodwinds going do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-d-d-d-d-d-d-- insincipation. It's like fucking crazy. So that, I love choirboy. Very vocal about that. I was going to say this motherfucker loves choir. That's like the softest thing on earth, which it makes it, hard. You know what I mean? I get that. I'm a big

fan of choir boy. But I love Bjork. We don't have time to spend this much time on every question. I'll tell you what. What fast food mascot do you think would pit the artist? My money is on Ronald. My sleeper pick is the

noid, but I can picture Jack in the Box Windmill with reckless. Jack in the box, for sure. I mean, Hamburger is like fucking he's in everybody gets hurt. Over Grimmis, dude. You know what, Grimus is at the side of the pit doing. Yeah, Grimus is doing the, like, the fat guy, like,

Yeah, yeah, you're right. And hamburger was straight up spin kicking his ass off. Why doesn't Taco Bell have a mascot? They had a Chihuahua. They had the Chihuahua, yeah, but I guess mascots aren't even really. And then they figured out, oh, this is racist. This is actually racist, yeah. What about the Burger King?

Kids Club. Dude, the King, the Burger King was a thing for a lot. Yeah, the Burger King would beat ass. I'll tell you who Mosh's heart is the Wopper Jr. Lon Yon Lashley. Ah. The Wopper Jr.

from the Burger King commercials briefly was. Really? This is breaking news. This is actual hard lore. The Wopper Jr. from the Burger King commercials was the guy that drove the motorcycle into Sound and Fury and got it shut down. He's been in several things.

like on the internet where I've been like, wait, is it Jan? It's Jan. Like some MacBook thing where they like destroy it. He was like a successful commercial actor for a while. Yeah, I saw that. I've seen that before. We love Jan. Shout out, Jan.

This is a great one. Okay. Favorite video game or games, it's pluralized. And what's your Eldon Ring build? I feel like I kind of reorganize my top five a lot. Which is, that's how it should be. Yeah. I mean, recently, I mean, God of War 2018 is like so far above.

Have you started Ragnor? I've started Ragnor. For the first five hours or so, I was thinking, like, this is kind of more of the same, which is fine because it was a masterpiece. And then they hit you with a moment, like five hours in that you go, okay. They're doing something here. That's all I'm at. That's where I am, though.

So don't spoil anything. if you're listening. Persona 5 Royal is way up there. Mailgear Solid 3 probably. What's cool about us is we like very different video games.

Like you and I have a pretty well-rounded sphere of video games. One thing we don't like is sports games, which is fucking dope. I love a wrestling game. I mean, I can't wait for the AEW game. That's gonna be great. But I'm like a big, like I love to gather and level up skills.

And that's why I like New World. It's so tedious. I like that stuff too. I love. Other than one very famous thing, which I think is going to come up later. So we'll talk about it. My Elton Ring build, I'm a spillsword, brother. I like the hack and slash and I like to become the moon and fly into you and fucking blast your ass.

I'm a big, like classics, like World of Warcraft, Diablo, two and three. played a game called Asheron's call for anybody who's out there who remembers that game. That's a 90s MMO. Thank you. Good for you. What is the worst mosh injury you have experienced or witnessed? Definitely. I feel like I've witnessed like arms out of sockets and shit.

Yeah, I've witnessed several broken legs. Yeah. Like bone. One time in Iowa, Harmsway and Convicted played a show and a dude. was going off during another band and broke his like spiral fractured his leg. Like you could see it. It was fucking insane.

And as they were taking him out, I'm not even joking. He said, oh man, I'm never going to get to see convicted. He was right. He was right. Yeah,

probably he's probably very correct. That's devastating. Not many people saw him. Very sad for that, man. I've been, I've been, like,

heavily concussed. But that's about, I don't think I've ever been knocked out cold, but I've been, I've been concussed to the point of, like, not knowing where I am for sure. I've never been concussed that I knew of. Good for you, man.

That I knew of. Okay. Well, it's coming. Whenever I see you next. Yeah. That's going to play into so many of the questions. As Edgeman, what is your favorite excessive force? I mean, I only know the one.

Yeah, same. Like, that's like, I forget who said. It may have been Martine. He was like, everybody really only knows that one. Martin loves, he's like my excessive force friend for sure. Yeah, yeah. So it's just the one weak motherfucker. Frank Grimes are grimy or Hank Scorpio, Hank Scorpio.

Hank Scorpio. All the way. Grimes was great. I love when he goes and he's like, good Lord, Simpsons. This is a palace. Yeah, the Frank Grimes met a bit is really just very sad. It is. Hank Scorpio is a Chad King.

Get the hell out of here. Just a genius. Just unbelievable. Is that a Conan? That has to be a Conan. I think it is, actually. It's Conan era for sure, but I don't know if it's a Conan written. I went to Benny Hanna with my mom the other night.

So when you guys hear this, yesterday will have been my birthday. My birthday is Wednesday. Oh, my God. Wow. So my mom took me out to dinner. We went to Benny Hanna. When I was a kid, we used to always go to Habachi place. I, like, loved them.

So it's kind of like a nice tradition to go to Benihana. And I, oh, the lift driver on the way there was listening to the Conan podcast, which is like such a weird style to listen to a podcast in a lift. Why you're driving people is bonkers for sure. Like, that's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. But he's really funny, so I didn't mind.

Akrona in a time or Majora's math. So here's my thing. I'm like anti-Zelda straight up. across the board. How come? I don't know. Do you think it gets too much praise? I never got,

yeah, I really do. I'm Mario guy, like through and through. So I found, I didn't find any charm in Breath of the Wilds like,

uh, kind of monotony. Like the monotony and the, and that like the cut scenes are really minimal and, yeah, which I think is, Some people find charm in that, and I just found it really lazy and boring. As a huge Zelda fan, I didn't like Breath of the Wild.

And it's like, I know that we're in the minority here, and I'm fine with that. It's like a universally beloved and praised and like one of the best games ever. I've, in terms of Zelda, I get about a couple hours into all of them, and I go, this is just isn't for me. Yeah. Now, I would be in the opposite camp. Akrona Time is a top five for me, for sure. That's the one I finished, I think. Okay.

I mean, I have to say that. I feel like you've done your due diligence. You don't need to play Majora's math. I've bought them all. That's the thing. I've paid full price for every single one. I try. When this fucking Breath of the Wild sequel comes out, I will buy it.

Really? I will give it one more shot. I just specifically remember. right in the beginning, I think I've told this story before, but in the Deku tree, you have to burn a spider web to get through it. It's like right, you're still kid link.

It's like the first dungeon. But I, they don't tell you that. There's no hints. You have to figure out that you can light a stick on fire. Which I'm down with that for sure. Because that's some soul's shit, you know? Yeah, but I remember being like 10 or whatever and just being like, oh my God.

And it's rated E for everyone. And I just, I had to do that. I had to burn that, which like now is so mundane, but at the time, games were not like that. That's,

I mean, that's some revolutionary shit for sure of just being like, hey, go figure this out. Yeah. And an adventure-style game is very cool. So I would say Akrona

over Majora's Mask. Major's Mask is overly complicated for no reason. I would think Aquarium of Time, that's like the, that would be the, the everybody's answer. I think so.

Yeah. I'm sure there's some, well, actually. Wow. If you could recruit one more member into your bands for a one-off album, who would you choose? If you could recruit one more member into yourself, God's hate could have seven people. This is a, so a fellow named Nick Barker played, he was in Demi Bore Gear and Cradle of Filth.

I think he's still in Cradle of Fills. Okay. He has the chops drumwise to do what? I want to do. So, like, what I'm writing? I'm like, what if I could do that? You know, just like do the real crazy shit. It would be, I would add him on drums and I'd just play second base or something.

Because that way there's no restrictions to like anything that I'm writing. You could do, you could be a second vocalist and it would actually work. You already kind of are. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I don't want to be, he's in, you know, he's so monumental in front that I'd look like small. I'm a perspective manipulator for him. Make him look bigger. Bullshit.

I'm going to the airport by myself and it's like, grannies are shakken and they're knickers. I show up with him. I look like a fucking... Yeah. He's a small child. He's huge. He's massive. I don't know.

That's a funny question. Maybe like if I could do someone like famous, it would be, or like, who is, isn't within our world, because there's no restrictions in this question. I would probably say like a young owl from ministry. It just get like weird industrial shit, you know, but like very authentic and... Would you add...

Would you add... Would you add me? Is that I hard... Would I add... Would I add you to Harvestway? Would you add me? No. You're a bastard man.

Echo. Fair. Don't do the fucking... What is Colin? Damn, I'm so sick of the echo. In Scottish. God damn it. Echo. Stop.

No, yeah. You don't get to redo the bit. No, I don't. You fuck it up. You fuck it up. Which song on sleep therapy has the worst lyrics? There are some stinkers on there. There sure are.

But please keep in mind, I was, okay. Do you remember being 18 years old? Yeah. Do you remember how fucking stupid you were? I'm, yes. Imagine you made a piece of art when you were 18 that stuck with you your entire life. It became like a thing that people know you for. Yeah.

Like, I was the dumbest person alive when I was 18. I was somehow making art. I don't think people realize how, like, vulnerable that is, too. You're writing lyrics about, like, real shit. And you're trying to make it, like, artistic. And it's just, it didn't land. Which is fine, but, like, that's fucking hard. It is.

And, you know, a lot of those lyrics have stuck with people for a long time. And I don't want to take anything away from that, you know, people who have them tattooed on them or affected them. in some positive way. But insane and humane is like garbage lyrically, you know. And it's relatable

but it sounds like an 18 year old is just whining about a girl, which is exactly what's happening. A stigmatism wouldn't write it today. You know? Right. Yeah, right. And that's basically it was kind of

it was dated very fast. And there we go. What do y'all's go-to-t TV shows to watch After a Gig? I know yours. After a gig? I mean, it's Triple D, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I would assume that after a gig means on tour. On tour, yeah. I'm not like popping open the iPad to watch fucking... Right. Battlestar Galactica at the hotel, you know? Yeah. There's something really nice about. We tend to put on, like, Pawn Stars.

We'll be on there for sure. Love Pawn Stars. Love Pawn Stars. Love forged and fire. Come on. What is that? That was when they make knives and shit on the show. It's great.

It's on the history channel, believe it or not. That sounds good. I love a travel channel, love a food network, love a history channel. Dude, if there's ever like idiot abroad or an Anthony Bourdain show or something. You know what? Dude, Bourdain would have killed on Hard Lord. Yeah.

And he absolutely would have done it. And he would have done it. I genuinely believe so. Yeah. By all accounts, just a genuine cool. The best guy. Cool. Yeah.

Yeah. We miss Anthony Bourdain. Hardlord love Anthony Bourdain. What's your, who's another celebrity that you miss? Who's dead? I have one that like every time I remember it hurts. Is it Chris Farley? Fucking Robin Williams.

Oh yeah. That's brutal. I'm not even like a huge like fan of, you know what I mean? He's not like my favorite ever or anything. It's just like life was better with him around. I mean, he's just like actual scientific proof that. that depression affects anyone and everyone. And should be taken super seriously.

It's a disease. Chris Farley, I just think wasn't done. No way. Chris Farley and John Candy, I think, would be like Oscar winners. Or fucking,

the fact that we never got a Chris Farley, Will Ferrell movie. Yeah. Or like a genuine, dramatic Chris Farley performance that he could for sure do. Yeah, right.

He had the chops for sure. Because Tommy boy, there's scenes where you're, to your, tear enough for the guy. Imagine the Anchorman cast with Chris Farley on it. You know what I mean? Like

and they're all great. I wouldn't want to remove any of them. I'm just saying in addition to, come on. It's just like the parallel between the him and like a John Belushi. Yes. Like even just getting to see them do something together would have been amazing. You know who's hated as fucking Chevy Chase?

You know about all that shit? Oh yeah. Hated. Christopher Columbus just like didn't you good Christopher or Chris Columbus isn't is it is it not Christopher Columbus the director

Chris Columbus is his name well I know but Christopher Christopher would be the explorer that's why he's but my question is do you know what Chris is short for I want you to take a gun aim it at your fucking head

and what are some are yours guys's wait hold on yeah Chevy Chase is a total piece sorry I thought my dogs were freaking out

But, yeah, he got in like a fight with Bill Murray, just because... Like actual, yeah. Like an actual fistful. Yeah, he's a... And like Richard Pryor didn't fuck with him. And I'm a big community guy. Right. And he was hated on that show, too.

He was like a terrorist, but... He told Danny Glover. Donald Glover. Donald. Fucking racist. Donald Glover, he told him, like, you're not funny or something. Which is just like so provably untrue. Dan Harmon talked about how in community,

they would kind of stop writing punchlines for for Donald Glover and just say like and then and then Donald will say something funny and then he did and that was like the that was like the that was like the big laugh of each scene. Unbelievable. Was them just saying like and then he'll do something. What are some of yours's guys' albums of 2022? What are your favorite carbs? Wow.

Okay. We got a pause right there. Holy. Holy cow. Favorite albums of 2022. Goodness. What came out this year? Yeah, what came out this year?

I really like the Absinth Father record. Keep going. I think she wrote all that stuff by herself. It's very impressive. She's rock. What else fucking came out this year? I'm in my recently ad. Yeah, that's what I'm looking at too.

I'm really bad at listening to new music. I'll be honest. I'm just like not good at paying attention I'm not good at keeping up Oh I mean I love the great iron record obviously That came out this year? Yeah

The Batman soundtrack 40 watts on perfect light Jesus that came out two years ago I was like oh I like the choir boy record It came out 2020 or 2020 Taylor's Zeus Zeus is awesome That thing is great.

There's a lot of good stuff. Dead body's great. Hey, thanks, man. I'm not allowed to say that. Yeah. I got you. Hey. It's tough, man.

Now, more importantly, what are your favorite carbs? Okay. One thing I like about you is we have almost an identical palette. With the exception of sauces, that's really it. I mean, what's better than a French fry? Now, let me ask. Yeah, I was going to say pizza. I was literally going to say it's pizza but like

I could probably eat a thing with fries once a day right I mean there is nothing better than the walk or the drive home from McDonald's and just grabbing a little sneaky fry out of there nothing better nothing oh my dude I went to McDonald's yesterday yeah the freshest fry I ever had when that when that happens I want to turn around

And just thank you So much You've done it again I'm not into the whole gimmick of like I tried the like unsalted fry thing So that they have to be dropped fresh But I want to bug them I'll get what I get

You know I did a TikTok Recently where I It gives you Random fast food And you have to list them in order As they come in So you can't rearrange

Right The first one was McDonald's. Wow. So, of course, I put it at number one. Yeah. And I got a lot of flack for it. Suck my ass. Yeah, people just don't.

How old are you? How old are you turning this year? 35. 35. Which is crazy because I realized that one of my cats is like two, three. So if he lives to be about 18, I'll have him when I'm 50. And like that really. That's funny because your TikTok makes me feel.

like you are 50 now. Literally going to delete my account live on the show. I say that lovingly and respectfully as you're... Oh yeah. No, for sure. That's one of your best friends. Yep. As a man who loves you. Real quick, let me delete this. Don't delete it. Keep it up so that after

they watch this, they can go they can go sprawl it. Everybody check out Bose TikTok. Tell me how old you are a bastard man. Why? What is Colin? Colin is a bastard man. A real low down son of a...

Thank you. That's good. I get my just-deserved when it's deserved. Unbelievable. And it's like, Bo, I love you, you know? You're my special boy. You're my number one boy. What about it makes me seem old?

All I post is hardler clips in like three videos that I... That's not for me to decide. It's just the energy I get from you sometime, you know? Unbelievable. You know, you know? what the worst thing is. What? You are not the first person to say that about my TikTok.

So I'm just, I just like... You just really affirmed an opinion. I just redug a fresh hole in the ground. Bleeding out right now. Okay. I'm really sorry. What are your favorite...

If you had to get someone hooked on your bands, what one song do you play them? Dude, it's been 44 minutes. We've done like eight of 300 questions. Yeah, well. A fucking song, man What, um This is

Kind of a weird thing to answer for your own band You know I would say become a machine for arms away Pretty easy Dead air It is man It's tough I mean as I don't know what to say

I got so many bands What to say you know Dead Body the song Dead Body Okay That's the one where I think anybody would be like Yeah it's just pretty cool God's hate I don't

Finish the job It's finished the job. Okay, I guess it's finished the job. It's funny. There's like three risks and finish the job. It's the best. One of them is real good. Pushing tongues, probably kill for you, maybe.

Oh, really? Interesting. Yeah. That's a catchy one. That makes sense. It's just near and dear to me, you know. As two individuals who have visited a lot, who have visited a lot over the years, what is your favorite food or drink establishment in Louisville?

Waffle House? Yeah, I remember asking for recommendations last time. You know what? I like Spinelli's. Really? I like playing there and then, you know, having a little slice, you know? It's like Casey delivered there for a long time. She was a delivery person for Spinelli's.

And it's like notorious for being just like terrible pizza. So it's not like, it's the vibe, you know? Yeah, true. It's also the only place I know there. There's a place called Joella's chicken. That is really good. I like that. Last time I was there, I was asking Brian Garris.

Hey, man, where do I eat? I'm in your hood. He's like Texas Roadhouse. And he's like fucking a chicken plate. You know, my mom makes chicken. It's really good. It's really good Brian actually. No, he sent me to,

thank you. He sent me to some diner that would like, didn't have seating. So obviously not doing that. So I went to Denny's garbage. Harm's way, Dead Body Tour when? Also mobile shirt when?

We're working on it. Why does Colin bully Bowie Bow at Every second. Tanner, that is a great question. It's out of pure love. I'd like to analyze that with you, Tanner. Okay. I want to hear your thought. Bo, here's the thing.

You know firsthand that the meanest things I say to you, I will send to you beforehand and be like, is this too mean? You did not ask me if the TikTok bit was too mean. That was spur of the moment. I can cut that if you want. No, no, no. No, no.

there's no cutting. Everyone's going to see what a bastard man you are. You think I'm... Okay. All right. My parents were married. I'm not a bastard. A bastard man. It's... I love the guy. You know, how boring would this be if we were two guys that just agreed with each other and thought all the same stuff, you know? This wouldn't even be fun to listen to.

Like friendship? Nobody wants that. You want to listen to songs about being happy and love and life? Do you do that? Yeah. No. There's not one good song about like good vibes, you know, other than good vibrations by Mark and Mark in the Funky Blanche. Any anecdotes from touring Mexico.

Dude, I played Mexico like once. Oh, really? Yeah. We did a Mexican tour in 2018, 19, with Renee. One of the drives was so long that we flew instead and it was incredible because flights were like 40 bucks a piece. Nice. Some of the best food

I've ever had. The band got five out of five ill. Like I almost fainted. I had to go and like lay down at the airport coming back. You got, you got Montezuma took his revenge.

He, he got me. And what's crazy is like we were careful. But like they wash vegetables in the water. They make ice out of the water. You know, and like Renee was like, I wouldn't eat there.

You guys might get sick. This place should be good. And there's, you're just going to. If you're eating I mean, as a resident, do you just become immune to it? Yeah, they just have stronger stomachs,

which is almost like... So maybe I'd do it all right there. Maybe. Maybe. Or is an iron. Yeah. We wound up at a AAA show at the, like,

the, yeah, Mexico City, we like saw a Lucille-Libre and that was really cool. That's awesome. And the tickets were like $8, you know. Really enjoyed it, though. I've only played Tijuana. Yeah.

And I think it's only twice. It's kind of, okay, you know how in Japan you get them dumplings at 7-Eleven? And it's like the best thing you've ever eaten. Yep. Mexico's the same. You can get like any taco on any corner. Yep. And you're like, damn, this is, this is the best.

Yeah. I get it. We had, we ate from a little stand behind the venue one night. And it was like shocking. Unreal. Like I couldn't believe how good the food was. And it's just meat on a tortilla. Yeah, with cheese.

It was just like perfect. Love it. That's my anecdote is that. I guess Mexican food is really good in Mexico. Hey, Bo and Colin. Hope y'all are doing well. What is y'all each other's favorite moment that solidified y'all's friendship together and was it mostly through hardcore? What if this person's from like Connecticut?

Yeah, right. And like not the South. I mean, I feel like that European tour is where we were. That's what did it. This is, this is inseparable. Yeah. And like, it's with every person, too. What's funny is like, we went through something.

We really experienced trauma. We did, but you and I, we were kind of kindred spirits from moment one. Yeah. I felt something in you. Like a much older version of myself. Oh, my. Like a way older version of me. You know?

Physically, mentally, spiritually. All around. And that's the thing. It's like that's why we're here, you know? Favorite thing from Buckees? Dude. What is that, them frosted nuts? The almonds?

Oh, the almond. Those are insane. Bonkers. I really like the pulled pork or the brisket sandwiches that are like $4. I've never had. Add a hot meal from Buckees. Outstanding. Really?

Because it's very inexpensive and like they cut it right there. It's like fucking awesome. I'm normally shitting in Buckees too long to, I hold up the band if I were to do that and a meal. So when I'm getting out, I'm frantically picking up a bag of nuts or something. The saltwater taffy is also really good. If dad body and harm's way were going on individual U.S. heliliner, so what two to three bands would you all want to bring? out for support. Dead body ain't headlining over.

Nobody, brother. We're opening. We're opening for Harmsway. Yeah, honestly, we would definitely take out Dead Body because everybody everybody in Harmsway likes that band. All right. Huge one. Common dead body, W.

And fucking the veins's too big, no. Yeah. Just try to think of people we would like to hang out with. Yeah. God's hate. who are also too big, no?

No, I don't think so. Well, show-wise. Nobody wants to follow Gaut's Hey, brother. Is that what it is? Yeah. That's a nice thing to say. But it's true, you know? It's like, you know what it's like?

It's like Undertaker Mankind King of the Ring. Stone Cold and Kane had to follow that bad boy. It's true. In a first blood match. It's not going to work. Who remembered that? Exactly. But Kane, that was Kane's one, one single, one-day world title reign.

That's right. Yeah. How are you going to make a guy in a mask bleed? Catfiche. This gentleman is a member of the Mr. Brotherhood, my former Twitch Squad, shares a birthday with me. Wow. Happy birthday, Catfish. Happy birthday.

Dad, Dad, Flesh. What's a brother got to do to get a friend of the show? Shout out. Real question, what's some of your pre-show rituals? You have a thing. Yeah? You have a la la la. I got a big warm up.

And it's changed a lot over the years, but I do this like Tai Chi. breathing thing mostly. That's the big one. People think that like warming up the voice is everything, but breathing is, if you can't breathe, you can't sing. So I'll show you all live on the show my Tai Chi breathing technique. So hands start at your side. You inhale through your nose here.

And then when you get here, you switch to your mouth. So it goes. And then when you're up here, your breath is held and you release it by making a, like a snake. Like you a. Wow. And you do that over and over again until you can do this for like a minute. Like you go where you're exhaling for a minute from here.

And your lungs are just expanding every time. You can fit more and more air in there. Do you hum? Do you do any kind of... I do a hum. So I did this full... I did one that was so gnarly that it turned out I was blowing out my voice.

I remember. And then Joe from Wisdom and Chains was the one that was like, I just hum during the band before us. Because I saw him watching. us, I think. I was like, do you not warm up? And he's like, yeah, I just hum through your whole set. Yeah.

And then I tried that and it was like night and day. I believe Todd Jones told James that on our European tour with Nass. Humming? Yeah, just like hum. And James is, to me, very impressively. He like does not lose his voice on tour. Yeah. Now screaming and doing melodic shit are very different.

Very different. Very different. And you're like, like, we often say, like, I blow my voice talking over the music at a bar or at a show. Like, that's what kills me. And I, I mean, Sound Infuri, I did too. Hmm. But then I sang, too. Right.

Like one set. And no. Yeah. And those second day videos on toast. Yeah, you can hear it for sure. I'm fried. Merry fuck kill fast food. Let's do.

It's been one hour. We've done nothing. Well, what do you think question? What is Q&A? I'm just worried. I mean, do we do some kind of quality control or do we just do everything? Okay, okay. I mean, we can do everything.

Fuck, I don't care. Fuck, I guess. No, no, no. Mary, fuck, kill. Kill Subway, Marriott's, fuck, internet. Wow. Ask Hardler, when might we see Harm's Way to take Dead Body on the road? Would love to.

It's a third one. Love to. Yeah. Who's on the Food Network. Here we go. We talked about this one earlier. Food Network host Mount Rushmore. Okay.

It's big. This is so easy, too. You go first. Guy. Yeah. Alton. Yeah. Martha.

Wow. And here's my toss-up. It's not as easy as I thought it was. Bobby Flee, maybe. Ooh, it's Super Chef Bobby Flee. Yeah. Wow. Mine's different, so that's good.

It's going to be Alton, though. He's on there for sure. Long go to. Gonna have Bobby. He's the mayor. What are you going to do? You know, if it hair elips,

the governor. I would have, I'm a big chopped guy. So even, so it's going to be Amanda Fryeog because I think she's great. And then number one,

Chris Santos. For the-Santos for the-Santos number one. Dude, I got to put a young blood in there. Wow. He's an actual metal head. Came and saw,

He came and saw Harmsway play at fucking St. Vitus. Did they ever respond to you? No. No. He's a busy man. They are number two. They are filming. Okay.

So like they legitimately busy. I get. What's the best venue you guys played and attended? The best venue. They're all going to be in Europe. There are some European venues that are like, we're playing here? That are like so fancy in their showers and, you know. like the Netherlands.

Like we play Dynamo. Are we talking quality of like amenities? Are we talking like, oh, we're playing here. It's going to be sick. Ah. Yeah. Because if so, then it's Gilman. That's very true.

If it's, if it's, worst amenities. Worst amenities. Worst amenities, but the show is so good that you don't, you're shooting in the hoop while you're setting a merge, you know.

Yeah. Amenities? On the Ghost Made tour, we played some like real deal. like nice theaters and shit or like Cannibal we played like in Vermont we played like some

super fucking nice venue that like every band had a huge green you know just like pro shit that's one it's so awesome when you get that when there's like vegetable in meat trays that aren't even part of catering they're just like there that's when your rider is there

that's when it's like yo yeah that feels great so ever happens Yeah, it would be stuff like that for sure But honestly, as much as we shit on Europe and, you know, obviously Oh, their venues are unbelievable. Some of the venues are so fancy and nice. The Budapest one is one where I'm feeling.

What is that fucking called? I have no idea. Arena wean would be so sick if the shows were good. Yeah. Yeah. But Budapest, I'm so sorry that I'm blanking on the name, but like. And when I roll up to there, I feel like a king. Yeah, an actual king.

What's your favorite venue right after it? That's interesting. Did Bo looters spelled wrong have sexual relations with a fish? No. Well, looters spelled wrong may have. He might have. Can't vouch for him. Also, shout out KFC biscuits.

KFC got rid of the bowls, and that really bums me out. The famous bowl? Yeah. That can't be true. 100%. That's like their Big Mac at this point. Hence my confusion. That seems crazy.

Any stories from shows? in Lawrence, Kansas. What? You never played Lawrence? I feel like we have, but stories from Lawrence. Hard Lord. Oh, famous bull's still there. I'm just an idiot.

God. I knew you were fucking out of your shit. Take a look at that. Oh. We never talk about the famous bowl. It's amazing. Never do. And it's so good.

It's so fucking good. Lawrence, Kansas on Ghost Main. We played there on Halloween, and it was just like chaotic and awesome. Played there are on every time I die. Also, same venue. Chaotic and awesome. Big fan of Google, Twitching Tongues, Lawrence, Kansas.

On the ghost made tour, it was Halloween. And so all the kids were like out around this town, trick-or-treating. Everyone's in costume. It felt like a movie. There's like a toy store across the street from the venue, and the dude was dressed like David Pumpkins. I bought a misfits figurine. It was just good memory.

Okay. Played there with coat orange in vain, I guess. It ain't, it's not ringing a bell. What's the name of the venue? Something. The Granada. Granada. That's, you know, I'm sorry.

Yeah. My memory's not what it used to be. One of the first tours we ever did, this is some heart lore, okay? One of the first tours we ever did playing Lawrence, Kansas is when I found out a girlfriend of mine at the time, this is fucking 15 years ago. This is forever ago. A girlfriend of mine at the time who I was. I was moving in with at the end of the tour cheated on me.

So Lawrence is always up there. So you'll, okay, that's, so you have that moment. At least I have that banked away. I have a moment like that. That's, I think in like, I think Birmingham, Alabama, actually. You have a little heart lore? Yeah, I got some heart lore. I'm not going to tell it, though.

Okay. Favorite piece of merch, merch design, one of your own, but also one from another band. That's a good question. Thank you, Jack. Okay. What's your favorite piece of merch? that you own. In general?

Yeah, just any, any bin. I have a Slatanic Veramak shirt that, you know what's crazy is I found out there's another one, but mine says, you know, TM Slayer in 1987, which is when I was born.

There's one that I've seen for like $1,000 on eBay that is my birthday, 1987, November 16th, that's really cool. In like a 2x, like it would fit, everything about it would be perfect

if I could afford it. The, Mypal Wolf Moon shirt is probably my just straight up favorite shirt. Casey got me one for my birthday a few years ago from fucking team pro Zach, of course. The helmet, dude. He must have worked for, I don't know. For blue grape or something. I don't know.

Something like that. He's got everything. Yeah. Yeah, that's like my favorite shirt shirt. Yeah. Personally. I'm trying to think. I mean, the God's sake be the like life is hard.

Be Hard Be Harder shirt for me felt like an achievement, just like kind of working our way through that one until it was what it was. That's the perfect shirt. Thanks, man. And then it sold really well. And that's what's better than that? Literally, I mean, you're metrically proving that it's a good design. Yeah.

You know? Pretty much. I also really like the like God sort of amount shirt. Yeah, that's a good one. I'm sorry, like Alex favor. Alex Faber, OG. Amazing shirt. My only beef with Life is Heart Be Harder shirt is his shirt is his.

printed on. You know how there's like two kinds of black comfort colors? One stays and then one fades. So I have two of them. I have one that I cut the sleeves off and one that I kept. And one is one as the other. Yeah. So I have like a provable difference. Yeah.

There is a 100% difference. Yeah. Those bastards. For Harm's Way, I really like, I mean, we really it's a very not, I don't want to say like standard design or anything, but we've done it so many times, but just the Harmsway, shy ill or post-human arch design.

The rise and fall, Gant Bell thing. They know that you were just like, hey, guys. We told this is ours now. We asked them. That's like a- It's yours now. That's the thing, though. And like, you'll see it anywhere. Johnny cashed him.

You know, that's your hurt. Do you know the Lars Ulrich? That's mine now story? No. Okay. I may be getting parts of this wrong, but I believe it was Baroness opened for Metallica or

who worked with Metallica or something. And they would do a thing where they would put water on the drums and with lights and they hit it during certain parts and it would like, and it would look cool. And one night, Metallica's playing and I guess they're side stage.

I think it's Baroness. I could be wrong. It doesn't matter. A band who is like opening for Metallica. Lars is like, they're playing and he's like, look inside stage and like seeing the drummer and he like tells his drum tech like,

hey, put some water on my tombs. And they're like, the gimmick and like on the symbols or whatever he like does it and then like after that song runs over to the band and goes that's mine now and then runs back wow continues on what's it but like just being a little stinker yeah I don't think he no no one gives a shit but like that's mine now is always that's always funny to me that's good stuff I feel that a lot when I'm listening to music oh that's a good riff that's mine now it's my favorite riff I've ever written it's a shame that that That's got stolen from you just now.

Twitching Tongues, you got to say dead body tour, when? No. Colin would simply die. I couldn't, I couldn't vocally do that. No way. Dave asked, who is y'all's go-to character in Mario Kart, which is a great question.

Yoshi. I know you're going to call me a piece of shit. Warrior? Mario. Oh, very balanced. That's why I like him. Here's my thing. He's heavy enough, fast enough.

Here's my thing, Bo. What? I'm undefeated at Mario Kart. Other than one person. Who's the one? Martine Stewart. Martin. Yeah, that's what I thought.

I would not even challenge. I love Mario Kart. Love it. I can fucking drift, you know, and get the drift boost. I'm good. Like, I'm there, but I wouldn't challenge. I'm not confident enough. There is not, other than Martine.

Like, of my peers, I'm never mind What No you can't fucking touch me Yeah you can't catch me That's the thing What your guys Sonic order Does it not does it does not include upgrade

Yeah I rod 44 sizes Or is hard Lord not a fan Hardlore is not a fan of Sonic Hardlore don't rock with Sonic That's gonna be I would only choose it over Subway You know like Yes

Bottom of the barrel And even then I'm getting like cheesecake bites Oh I'm getting mozzarella sticks And like curly fries and a big like apple slushy. Yeah, exactly. I'm not. I'm not getting a burger.

A meal. Who would you cast for the Alan Parsons project of hardcore? Which producer, songwriter, and what musicians to work both in the studio and on tour? That's interesting. You would be a producer, I would choose. Genuinely. What is the Alan Parsons project? Like a big, like a super group kind of deal.

You pick me? I would pick you as a producer for sure. genuinely I think I think you're a person who can like hear a thing and go this is good do it this way this would be better that's like my that's my number one expertise in this life I would say yeah is hearing a thing and go it would

you know it would really work I think and not this isn't even tuning my band's own horn Nick can write at a level he can produce ideas at a level that I genuinely don't understand.

Like, hmm, this part doesn't even, this part that goes this way we're not really feeling. Okay, how about this totally different thing? Like,

I just don't, it's amazing. It's amazing to me. So Nick would be involved in my Allen Parsons project, for sure. Musicians, if it's hardcore,

doesn't even fucking matter, brother. Does it? Do it. But I'd pick you. You'd be in there. Thanks, man. You could,

maybe rhythm guitar. I can play I thought you rock bass I don't like playing bass I played bass You don't like playing bass He had COVID

When we did the stick to your gun Yeah I was there Shows Yeah and I played bass And I did not like it at all If I can't chug Hands builds for chug Pete

Pete chugged Pete palm muting bass One of the dopest fucking things ever Favorite guitars you toured with I wonder if that's guitars or guitarists Fan or not, another Mr. Brother.

I love my eyewitnesses, Paul. Did you tour with your steel guitar? Steel guitar. Yeah, that's the only one I ever did anything with. Yeah, that makes sense. My one-of-one steel guitar. What's the best worst piece of merch from your friend's bands? That's a very funny question.

Yeah. I could definitely say that there's some weekend nachos merch that is fucking insane. I mean, they all, every weekend nacho shirt says weekend nachos on it. So it's like, actually the one they did with like actual nachos on it. Yeah. Was incredible. Do you know that there's a five inch that's a notch? It's a nacho.

Yeah. It's a triangle. That's incredible. That's amazing. There's a twitching tongue. I mean, I've brought this up many times. There's a twitching tongue shirt where the back says eyes adjust in the Angry Birds font. That's right.

Like the font that is like only known as being from Angry Birds. And this one, I suggesture. And it's the worst shit ever. Have you all ever been to cookout? Of course. Yeah. And so what is your complete tray, milkshade, drink order? We have talked about that.

But the only thing I can never remember is Alex. Corn dog order. That's the only, yeah. Okay, yeah. I haven't been enough to give a good opinion on. I go double burger, corn dog fries for the first tray. second tray I go double burger corn dog fries

I like I think I think there's like a caramel shake that I really like I genuinely think we've only been as a band one time so I don't it's just not enough I love it the aggregate is not strong enough sure yeah tell us the time you got punished versus times where you were the punisher that's a great question you ever punished somebody 100% Dude Without I won't say

Like I don't want to embarrass Anybody but one time when I was getting food with Brody People were walking by that I wanted to Like wrestlers were walking by As we were waiting That I wanted to talk to so bad But what do you even say That's the thing

That's why I just didn't Yeah yeah It's there's a lot of times where I'm You're mingling with Lemmy At a fest or something Right yeah we've talked about that And it's like, how do I? And I think, you know, doing more like actual interviews with people for NotFest has kind of desensitized me to them.

Yeah. And when I'm talking to people, I think, I can feel that they think I'm like a job or punisher until like halfway through the conversation. Yes. There's a moment where you can visually see it. I also think that like I would never, this is me personally. I don't mind if somebody comes up and is like, hey, I like the podcast. Hey, I really like your band. It's amazing.

Or like better yet, my favorite thing is like, what pedals are you using? I could talk gear all day. That's one thing. I could talk at no day. Yeah. I mean, that's one thing for anybody listening. If you want to talk about gear or amps or guitar, like, I love that shit. Don't hit me up.

Don't hit up Colin. Hit up. But one thing that I would never do is like go up to a wrestler or another person and be like, you did really good it was a really good match you wouldn't say great match no I wouldn't do that now I've done that I've done that for sure maybe just like in a quick

passing but I would much sooner like the lemmy and catering kind of thing if there was like some situation I would much rather talk about the potatoes we're about to eat yeah but then there's some extent where maybe they'll think like yeah were you not watching that just now yeah but if that's the case then fuck him

I don't want to I want them I understand that You know? Yeah. But how many times have you had somebody tell you great set when you know it wasn't a good set? Oh, there's almost nothing more offensive in this world. So I like, great set. And I'm like, you're a fucking liar piece of shit.

Yeah. So like I don't want to blow smoke, you know? Yeah. Kind of feel that way. I like there's been times where I've like gone around bringing up the set. When I watch somebody who had maybe not a great set and they know it and I'm talking to them about something else, I won't even bring it. just go around it. They don't need to hear about it.

Talk to the Cannibal Corpus guys about Ace Ventura. It's probably the most punishing thing I've done. On the last day of the tour. But it's like who doesn't want to know that? Yeah, I mean, come on. And we're talking to Alex and he was like, cool as fuck. And he was just like, yeah, it was awesome. Like, that was it.

It was, you know, very short. Talking, talking, like, I'm a dying fetus, like super fan. Like, I genuinely believe they're one of the best. best bands to ever play music. So touring with them and just like having normal conversations with them was, it's very hard not to punish them. Just at like, talking to somebody

who I would genuinely think is like a, like a group of geniuses. Yeah, I can see that. It's kind of tough to do. To just kind of. And then him, there's some lore there that I don't want to div. I don't want to do.

I don't want to put him on the spot. Yeah, yeah. I understand. What if you don't say who? It's hard not to. know at this point. Fair enough. Essentially a band.

When I heard them, it was like, this sounds like a twitch and tongues part. And I was honored. And they blew a line confirmed it to me. In a way that was like only complimentary. Excellent.

Yeah. Very good. What are some cool places you've gotten in for free by saying you're a band on tour? Back in 2006, we got to go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with only a routing on someone's

sidekick. Yeah. Free or discounted Cracker Barrel used to be a thing too. Definitely remember that. Honestly, second time bringing him up, but we, Chris Santos was lucky or kind enough, I should say we were lucky enough to invite us to his restaurant.

Santos was lucky enough to have armed way. To invite us to his restaurant in and beauty in Essex in Las Vegas and I've never had a better meal. It's fucking amazing. Very nice. That was really, really cool. Colin, is your dream venue in outdoor shore in the Century City Mall

Commons area. I love the Century City Mall. Oh my God, probably. And if so, what's the lineup? What's the lineup? At the Century City Mall, here's the thing, I'm not motion at the Century City Mall. So I want to see like, like,

Abba headlines. Toto Direct. Paula Abdul, 2 of 4. and Paul Abdul dude and the Jabalaki's open Dude straight up now tell me

Every line that she finishes It goes She just like Oh are you just Went near time Yeah Every line does that Are you dissing Paul Abdul

That song is really bad That song is incredible She like wraps She's a van I's OG Right There's just too many at this point. Straight up now.

It's down whether you really want to love me forever. Meow, meow, meow. Who would your dream interviews be? Honestly, Bourdain would be great. We have some that I don't want to spoil that are still on the horizon that I'm really excited for. Danzig for me.

Headfield? Headfield and Danzig. Those are the big two. Big two. Was there ever a time you guys thought about giving up on a career in music? What happened? How did you decide to keep going?

Dude, yes. Chris fits. Yeah, totally. I mean, there was a point in time over COVID where I had my first IT job that was fucking miserable and my like band wasn't doing anything. Personal life was falling apart and I was living like the most paycheck to paycheck I've ever lived like getting by with dollars in the account every week. And that was like, oh, I guess like this is life now.

And this is what happens when you don't go to college. But you know, like I thought it was done. Christ, that's not though. When disharmonie came out, it was definitely like, we did that one tour with you guys, and then went to Europe, and then I got like an engineer job and did it for like a year. It was like, yeah, I'm done. I'm not playing music. And it honestly really helped me stop, like not looking at music as a career for one or two years.

Yeah. Brought the creative joy back that went into something like the God's Hay record, you know? I love that. Or it's like, I'm not writing this to, for any other goal other than to make something that I want to hear. Thank you, Chris. Rake, soda formats, can, bottle, fountain, glass bottle, let's say. Glass bottle, number one. I think that's a gimmick.

I don't buy into that. You're not beaten a can. Here's what I'll say. Did you hear that? What the fuck was that? Someone, I think, just followed me on Twitch and it played, but I don't know why. Your scum. Holy fucking brousy.

Fuck, that scared me. I don't have anything open. That was insane. That was insane. Glass bottle Coke specifically is like the most concentrated purest form of soda known to man. But still, I'll probably go can. I think I'm can over everything. Over everything.

I genuinely think there's something about the aluminum or tin or whatever is in it that keeps it colder, keeps it more carbonated. It's the perfect amount to finish with a meal. Like, it's perfect. I love an ice cold diet Coke or Coke Zero in cans. It's truly there's nothing better. The only thing better is when it's got the polar bear on it because it's Christmas time.

Oh, my, dude, when them polar bears come out, they're coming any day now. Yeah, any day now. This next episode, we're going to have polar bears on this. One of the best things was, for those of you don't know, is oftentimes when you fly to Europe, you have European Coke, which isn't the same as ours.

For better or for worse, it tastes different. I guarantee you I could pick it in a lineup because it's high-futost corn syrup versus not. Give me the HF syrup. When you're coming back, you oftentimes get the American shit. One time coming back from a European tour, we had polar bears.

I'm the fucking American Coke cans. How good did that feel? Oh, my. Outstanding. Oh, God. I cannot wait to sip them, sip on them polar bears, man. Yeah.

What are some dream? Oh, and then so I would go can, glass, 20 ounce bottle, fountain. Plastic bottle. Fountain. Fountain over the 20 ounce,

two liters at the bottom. Two liters are garbage, man. And I used to, like, exclusively drink those. Trash. Because dad orders them with the pizza. and that's all you have, you know? And they were fucking terrible.

What are some dream collaborations for your respective projects can be someone not in the heart of music scene? Colin can use God's hatreds or whatever he prefers. Collaboration. We've kind of done it with Harm's Way. The post-human remix album, Chris did a really good job of kind of rounding up.

I mean, we had Justin Broderick and Igor. Yeah, that's cool. That's fucking dope. I would love for some, there's the new wave track on, is it is on disarmony arrival um i want to hear a fucking club banger remix of that that'd be really fun hit me with like a fucking uh who's the guy that said the shout out to his family thing about george ford david getta yeah have david getta do the the fucking arrival club mix

that video is one of the most insane things unbelievable shout out to his family yeah unreal You know what's funny is my train of thought right now is him to Ellie Goulding because of Give my lines on, baby. Amazing song because that's like an ultimate club song in my brain. But then she has a song called Easy Lover. So they made me think of the Phil Collins song that I heard today. And that is a great song. You're so crazy.

Top three office episodes excluding dinner party and stress relief. Okay. Survivor Man is by number one. Number one. Dinner party is like even with dinner party factored in. It's number one. Number two. Probably not for me, but I am.

Possibly Phyllis's wedding. Ooh. You found Uncle Al. Yeah, he's weird. The welding line. Oh, two metals. Truly one of the most brilliant, like, comedic bits ever written. Because it's so, it's just so fast and not acknowledged.

Like nobody acknowledges that it's even a joke. Yeah. I'm ravenous after a night of love making. That's a... Oh, wait, is that Pam and Jim? That's Pam and Jim. Excuse me. The wedding is the...

Yeah, you know. What else? The Celtics were a great team. Dude. I really like... I love the Tallahassee arc. You're not saying those are your top three, though. No, no, no.

But I'm... I will say that, like, a fondness is, like, Like, so smug. Like, like that shit. When he's fucking with Dwight. Like, I just, I think those are really fun episodes. Gabe became a good character in the GSL, dude. Gabriel Susan Lewis.

What's in it for GSL? That's hilarious. Number three, what's my third favorite episode? Season four for sure. Yeah. Well, that's the strongest. Oh, the deposition. Oh, my God.

Come on. I really have to go to the bathroom. Oh, dire. Yeah, that was stalling. What is it? Oh, yeah, that's good. Yeah. Great.

You know, it's a funny thing, Colin is, is, I think you and I were champions for this, and then it became cool to hate on the office, you know, and that's fucking bullshit.

It is bullshit. It's like, the whole, like, the office, liking the office is not a personality trait. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, no shit. It's a great show. It's just a really good show. And, and it is, it is the most, streamed thing like ever.

Really? So I'm sure, yeah. It's just, I mean, it's just the just the natural ratio. It's just everywhere. And that's the, of course, you're going to be avert. There's going to be some aversion to that. Dream show lineup, opening band, middle band, headliner. That I could attend. And honestly, it was certainly within the realm of possibilities was like Metallica, Danzig, Faith No More. Like, those tours basically happened. and it like, you know, one of the coolest things ever,

like an actual supergroup, minus Lars playing drums, is Metallica playing London Dungeon with Glenn singing that's in Chicago, the only video you can find of it. It's at the Rosemont Horizon. And you have Hetfield doing the well,

like in the background during like London Dungeon. Like, come the fuck. I mean, that's hard to beat those three as a, and like, that's a tour that could have definitely happen. But then you'll see those shows that it's like, typo godflesh dancing.

Like Celtic Frost. Yeah. Or something. Like the Monotheas tour was with Typo. Like what the fuck? Insane. And I just missed that. Yeah.

Yeah. I regrettably got into Typo and honestly even Pantera. I thought Pantera was like stoner shit, so I wasn't into it. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty common, though. I mean, like, there was a certain period where only pieces of shit listen to Pantera. You know? Right.

So you meet a guy and you're like, this guy's a piece of shit. And he's wearing a Pantera shirt. Yeah. And there were other bands, too, like, iced earth where it was just like, never heard an iced earth song. Never will. But saw the people wearing those shirts and I was good. The fake heshers at my school loved ice earth. Yeah.

So to this day, to this day, I'm, I'm fucking. See, we're caught up. Are we caught up? Yeah, we're just sweating the time. now we can do Instagram. All right. We're going to Instagram now. Yeah, but hold on.

I was like, oh, let's do this. Oh, Big Bo's back. All right, I'm just going to be reading these. I'm going to go from the, from the, these are top comments. So this is, this is not in chronological order. This is just what I'm getting.

I purposefully did not read like anything, because I wanted to be surprised. The only thing I read was the Food Network, Mount Rushmore thing. Zach Wolfe asks, what podcast do you all listen to? Do you have time to listen to a podcast? No.

I fall asleep to hardcore history like every night but that's just because he has a very monotonous voice and he's talking about Caesar and I can just I really only go out of my way to listen to the Kevin Nash podcast now. Dude, click this, yeah. Yeah, but even that I'm watching clips on YouTube.

I don't even listen to the whole thing. So what it'll happen with me is I'll be watching a watch Mojo or something. Yes. And it'll auto play because it knows I listen to them and I'll be like, I might as well leave it on and then three hours go by. I used to, I mean, you know, full disclosure, and I don't really give a shit, I used to listen to Joe Rogan.

I used to listen to, like, other podcasts within that world. And then, like, obviously, as he got a little more out of touch with reality and, like, how I feel about things, like, I don't, I don't listen to any of that anymore. And we're talking for, in COVID in general, just wrecked humanity. Yeah. Overall, and it's, um, I just don't have time. I wish I didn't have time. There's, there's a podcast. of some friends of mine and friends of the show called Quite Unusual,

and they do really good, like in-depth researched, like hauntings, UFO shit, cryptid shit. And you listen to that? It's very well done. They have a very good dynamic. It's two gals. No, of course not. But they do cool stuff about shit.

I love, like, ancient aliens kind of stuff. They've offered to take us ghost hunting. Yes. Should we take them up on that? I would love to. They're located here. Also, there's some road warriors. You know, they're very, very cool.

So that, I do listen to their episodes as they come out. It's probably the only one. There you go. Yeah. Oh, somebody says, I'd like to ask, I'd like to hear you guys ask guests what they're currently listening to. Make it a recurring question. That's a good idea.

What are you currently listening to? Me? A choir boy. No, I do. I don't. I'm very bad at listening to stuff. Yeah, but what are you listening to? Like today I listen to Phil Collins all day because of the one.

I heard the one song getting coffee. And I was like, oh, you know what? Phil's got some fucking hits and he really does. I mean, I'm a big time Phil Collins, Genesis, Mark. Yeah. Big. I think so. I mean, in your eyes is one of my favorite songs ever.

So is one of my favorite records ever. And Sledgehammer is like unreal. What are you going to do? I'm a big Phil Collins guy. Big time. Yeah, what are you listening to? Dying fetus? Yeah, isn't it funny too?

I listen to the same eight things. When I'm like, man, I want to listen to something heavy while I'm like mopping the floors. Like, yeah, I'm going to listen to Hayprey. I'm listening to Master Killer. It's just, I like what I like. I want to like new stuff. Yeah. I do try.

And a lot of times I succeed. I listen to everything that I see people post about. You do? Everything. Because like oftentimes, because now I do both Apple Music and Spotify because of the show. So now when people post the link of the Spotify, I'll just like, all right, let's hear it.

Oh, I forgot to bring this up in new things that came out this year, but I love the tribal gaze LP. That's right. That did come out this year. I like that too. So shout out to travel gays. I'm listening to that. Let's see.

worst punisher story. Do you have a worst punisher story? I don't want to be mean. Yeah. You know? I told the story about the German guy who threw the shirt back at me. Yeah, that's good.

And that was really... I'm gonna tell a story. Okay. But it's out of love because... And zombie bait, if you're listening to this, that's his name. I want you to know, you punish your way into my heart.

Oh, interesting. Oh, dude. Okay. You have people who punish the way into your heart? Yeah, I do have one. He's for sure listening. Zombie bait was just a guy who was there and would like bring us shirts and stuff to the extent where we were like, man, who is this guy? This is the first guy we dealt with where he was like a reoccurring guy.

Yeah. And then eventually it got to the point where I was like, yo, if zombie bait's coming, we're good. You know, we don't have to worry. It's going to be a great show. So zombie bait, if you're listening, you punish your way into my heart. And I don't have a bad punisher story because you're not a punisher anymore. You're my guy.

Okay. Mine is my Fred Ty, who you met at Furnace. I did me, Ty. So he's the kind of guy who can just kind of, and punishing has such a stigma to him. So I don't really mean it that way. But he would just kind of be around. He would like hang out on my streams when I was streaming a lot.

and come to shows and stuff. And we had met, but I just never really put it together. And then we slowly became friends. And now we'll talk all the time. Go to wrestling together every time. Because he comes up north. And that's huge. But he's the kind of guy.

It's fitting. You know him, Colin, as the guy who can kind of get himself wherever. He's a fest. He's a motherfucker, man. It's crazy. Because he's just like clever. He's a magician. And he found his way into here.

He found his way into here. This is a crazy question. Okay. Top five albums of all time. I almost don't even think it's possible. Is that easy for you? Like, is that? I mean, I can, I can for sure name things that come in mind.

Master Puppets, ride the lightning, black album. I would put Master Puppets in the top five. So Black Album is not in your top five, so you're immediately disproving your theory? No, no, no, no, because my theory is that it's the Sonic best. I have always said that Master Puppets is that, best album front to back.

I don't think that that's true. That's a hundred. My, I've said this so many times. I say, no, no, no.

I say that I literally say that the black album is the sonic best. Yeah, that means it sounds the best. So what are you saying? Is that what the question is? Sounds the best?

No. What is the best? What's the best ones? Master puppets. Then there you know. You answered your own question. You ended your own debate. No,

I didn't. You, What do you mean? I have literally always said that Ride the Lightning has the best vibe. Master Puppets is the best album. And Justice has the best singles. And the Black album is the best sonic experience. Yeah, but what does that mean?

Other than it sounds the best. It sounds the best, but it doesn't have the best songs. It's too long. It doesn't have the best production either. You think it's, you think it has the best production? I think Black album has the best production.

Oh, I think it's, I think it like is the reason everything sounds like shit today. Does that make sense? No. Modern metal sounds like shit Everything's fake And I think it all goes back to the black album

But nothing's fake on the black album I know But everybody's tried to replicate that With samples and stuff You could say that But like Pantera sounds like shit But it's but it's a unique kind of shit That makes it awesome

But that still means that it's bad I don't but I think Adjacent to Reefuge's Tantara playing Pantera production Sounds badass Anybody else trying Pantera production sounds like bullshit. Like the quarters on the kick or whatever it is.

Yeah. I don't know if that's real. I tried to do it and it fucked me. The quarter flew off the tape and then the tape started sticking to the kick. So I couldn't kick the whole set. Luis was so mad at me. This was like in Sweden or something. Oh, my God.

Who tries to sound like Metallica that you can like reference? Who specifically tries to sound like the black album that you think? all modern metal production is going back they go vague broad it's not vague or broad i mean look at avenge sevenfold eventually they they did a never gonna sound they did a black album album you know yeah and it's it's it's it's i mean i'm no dis to to avenge to the gods avenge sevenfold all full this but that that never but that's not metallic's problem you know what i mean i'm not saying it is but i think i think it started it's overproduced is what it is. It literally is.

To appeal to a mass audience, which it did. It worked. I definitely think it was produced to appeal to a mass audience. I don't have an argument there. But there's no argument. Would you say that it to you,

in terms of what you like, sounds better than master puppets? Yes. You're fucking loser. I love you. There's Mids. It sounds great. It's.

It sounds amazing. You're brainwashed. You're brainwashed. by the black album. But I'm really not because I went through my whole like teenage and early 20s of like hating on it. And then having like a discovery, you know. That's most people aren't born brainwash. They become brainwashed.

Fair enough. You just prove my point. I mean, I guess I kind of. It's, I just like, I just don't think you can, you can hear sad but true when it kicks in and not think like, oh, this sounds fucking perfect. regardless of the song.

If you don't like the song, it's just like, there's a, there's a, there's a kind of perfect that is unpleasant, you know? But man, Savreou goes so goddamn hard.

It's so fucking, so good. Yeah. What do, this is a great question for, we didn't list any albums, by the way. Master Killer is the best album.

It's all five. Okay? Master Killer, five Deli Venoms, the Final War demo. Mutality. I like that. Every other song on Blutality starts with just a floor time going.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like every other song, it's crazy. It's awesome. 50 Shades of Greg asked, What do bands see the most money from? Merch at shows, online merch, pre-orders, et cetera. I want to know how to support bands the most. That is great.

It's a great question. It really depends on the level of the band. If it's like a pre-order on an album, a major label, they aren't seeing jack squat from that. Not a penny. So those shirts are generally like the designs they gave the label to recoup the album. So pretty tough to do. So unless there was no budget, they're never seeing anything from that.

So if you go to a record label and you see that they have a band shirt, you could kind of figure out where that's going. It's going to the, but it's recoup. And that's a double-edged sword. because if people buy those enough, the band will start to see royalties. Yes, which is fucking awesome. Then in the end, your royalties bring you luxury.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. At a certain level, a band doing like a door deal with a show or like getting back end beyond their guarantee are making so much. much fucking money off the door. That, that merch doesn't matter, but merch is most likely going to be incredible anyway. So it really depends on the level of the band. You know what I mean?

Like once the band is starting is calculating sales per head. Yeah. They're doing fine. And, but under that, like a like a like a God's hate type band, you know, online merch. Yeah. The goat. Yeah. You guys. Like that's, that keeps, that keeps the wheels turning. Here's a good way to put it. If you're going to see a headliner, they're making the majority of their money over the tour on the door. If you're going to see, for the most part. It depends, though. Like a hardcore band, though? We could say both then.

If they're headlining, it's both door. It's very even, yeah. If you're seeing someone's support, they're getting a guarantee. And they're making the most of their money off of merch. So if you're going to see a band who's direct support to a bigger band or something, like a great example. and I have no idea what they're making. I'm just throwing it out there. Dying Wish Gate Creeper are out with Hayprey right now.

Dying Wish, Gate Creeper, most likely making the majority of their money off of merch sales because of just the structure of tours. So it kind of depends on who you're going to see and how that all factors in. That's a great answer. Thank you. That was good shit. I, as a listener, was like, he's spitting. Bars.

Betrayed by Life Asked Worse venue Provided Food in Europe One time Had And I'm not gonna say Just fucking

I was gonna say It's episode 30 Boe I was gonna say something From the Budapest place I don't want to dis them But then I remembered Something way worse Okay

In England Legitimate Just like Like spaghetti noodles Thrown into a thing With ketchup For for a fest for the whole for everyone right i think it was birmingham not when we played there

together a different time i'm only ask you this well yes sir can you think of a more carnivorous group of people than twitching tongues god's hate no no not in this world right are there any vegetarians in either man is mike used to mike was vegetarian when he was in twitching Other than that, we are full... Other than that, God's hate will put some... An animal down. 100%. Yeah.

I'll fucking skin it myself. You know? Yeah. I won't do that. It's disgusting. I do love animals. I would much rather hunt and kill and clean something myself than buy it from the store. See, I don't like...

I think hunting is like kind of ugly, you know? No. I don't think it's... You can't use hunting to feed the whole country. And I think the more people who... hunt and kill and gather their own food. Like that's very... For things that are overpopulated,

sure. Sure. But like a bear? You will not see me within a fucking 100 square miles with a bear. Yeah, but you ever see a pick of a bear and go, this is awesome. Yeah, yeah, they're amazing. They're just so scary. They're so

fucking scary. They're scary. But like hunting deer or like wild pig or whatever can be eaten. You say pig? See, pig or pig? I want to give up pig, honestly. Really? Because they're,

you hear that they're like human-like or whatever? Yeah, they're like dogs. They're like smart, yeah. And I don't think, here's my hottest take ever, maybe. At that rationale, dude, cows are the coolest. I know. I know.

And it's, I'm backwards here, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's my, what was I going to say? Something about pigs. Oh, my hottest take ever, maybe. I don't think bacon is good.

Bacon is not. good. Bacon is a supplementary meat. I could easily never eat it again. Yeah. It's never missing. But sometimes it's like, oh, that's nice. But like a piece of fatty pork and some ramen. Yeah, that's really good. You know, come on. I think, I will say this, and this is as a former fish, fish fucker, the whole fucking planet could be eating farm-raised salmon and farm-raised tilapia.

Oh, forever. We would do great. It would be fine. Yeah. We'd do great. I would love to eat just sushi great salmon every day, five meals a day. Yep. Mike Q sucks.

Two pizza part or pizza oriented questions. What are your top three local spots? At least two. Calling back to the Taylor Madison episode, what pizza spots could you recommend in New Jersey? This is hilarious. I looked up his town on a map and he was like, there's no good pizza near me. There's no good pizza near him. And there's just, I couldn't.

I don't find one. I know that's not true. I know that's not true. Oh, by him? Yes. Oh. I, I looked up his area.

I checked all my pizza resources. There's nothing. In New Jersey. There's nothing within, like he has to cross the bridge into Philly. The most populated state. I know. densely populated state.

There's nothing. Wow. It was, it was hilarious in me. My top three local spots, number one is secret pizza. That's what it's actually called. The best thing that my whole pizza bit on Instagram brought me

was being friends with the secret pizza guy. Because now I can be like, you making pizzas today? Where other people are fighting for slots online. Very nice. I feel it's like one of the greatest honors of mine. Quite a privilege. Quite a huge. And I admit I am privileged in that way.

Apollonio is number two. I don't need to do it over third. Just go to one of those. I'll say lose out of respect. Come on. Because I respect my elders. There's a place near me called Tortorichies that is outstanding tavern.

Now that sounds good. Very, very good. The Tortorichies Way, Colin, get this. It's called the Tortorici's Way. Green pepper, onion, sausage, spicy sauce, well done, thin crust. Yeah, I'm horny as. So if you call and you're like large Tordorici's way, they say, got it.

It's amazing. Love it. All right. That'll be ready in 30 minutes there. Yeah. And Jets. Love Jets. See, not local to me.

Not local to me either, really, but still love it. There were a lot of questions about like, what do you like, what are you excited to eat on tour? And it's Jets. It's amazing. There was in 2022, other than Sound and Fury, I did not play a single city that didn't have a Jets. Like that was the fucking the criteria that needed to be met. You got a show coming up here too.

Wow. The day that this episode was coming up, God's Day is playing in Brooklyn with internal bleeding, King 9 and Living Wept. So if you're listening to this on the Thursday and you're near Brooklyn, if you're within two hours, you better fucking be there. Or on the drive-in? Yeah. Come on.

Beautiful. Pop it on. Also, wish me a happy birthday, you fuckers. Yeah. I'm, I can't wait to do that. 35. Oh, no. Oh, no, no.

Oh, no, no. Alessandro Music, friend of the show. Thoughts on Nando's. Dude, in the UK, it's like... In the UK, it's goat. Yeah. I mean, I've never eaten it outside of the UK, but... I've had the American version and it's less...

And I've had the Australian version, too, and it's less like what it is there. But like in America, there's no reason to eat that. Well, I was genuinely excited when I saw one open, but it's like more Ethiopian and less just like chicken burgers. Dude, I mean, a real deal Ethiopian meal is one of my favorite things ever. There's some other places that I would go to before Nando. So it really like you said, why would you remember?

If I'm getting a fucking like the whole Ethiopian experience with the thing. Yeah. I'm not going. I got to go to Nando's for that. Yeah, right. I'm going to fucking meals by Gannett. I love Nando's in U.K. It's expensive.

Parry, garlic pear. Dude. It's very expensive, but it's very 50 fucking quid. Yeah, but it's very reliably good and they have Coke. Say not a word. And they have refills. Hello. Great place.

Favorite guilty pleasure emo band? Saves the day, probably. Like later soft saves the day. Yeah, but you're not. guilty about liking saves a day at all. No. But I mean, you're like a day one OG.

True. For me, I mean, it's brand new, right? You have to be, you're guilty if you listen to. Well,

yeah, but like, it should not be pleasurable anymore. But before his shit came out, everyone liked brand new. Dude, yeah, I mean,

sure. I mean, MCR. Was never an MCR guy. At one time, it was like, you listen to, MCR. But now

they draw more people than Kiss, so. But man, I could get you in MCR. Dude, Casey was a huge, like, an OG. Yeah, but I wasn't a fan. And then became one as an adult, you know?

I just, I don't, oh, taking back Sunday is probably my answer, actually. Yeah, that's a pretty good. Like, I hear fucking, your lips to Chris call, or I'm fucking, I'm in. Are they? I don't want to, I mean, they might be on the show at some point, but like, are they not notoriously like the worst live band to ever exist? I've certainly heard that.

Isn't that their gimmick? Yeah. I've never seen him. The record after that, louder now? Bad rocks. What's it feel like to be a ghost? Gavin M2, 347 bands you never caught and will always regret missing. Typo, Pantera.

Yeah, I'll never get to see Typo. won't see the fucking Zach Wild shit if that happens We, I mean, we might if we're sent out to a knot fest where I will. I will not. I'll be watching every other fucking second of that thing. Yeah, I mean, I guess like if I could

be there and be paid to be there, fine, but like, I'm not going out of my way. I'll put it that way. I got you. My answer for this was dying breed. Oh. And then I got to see dying breed, baby. So I truly have no

I've gotten to see Bull Thrower Yeah I still never seen Carcass I would like to see Carcass My My big My list for that

Was like Bolt Thrower King Diamond Dying breed And I got to see all three In a few years span And they were like The three best sets I've ever seen

We played with Godflesh That was a big That's badass That was fucking sick So yeah I'm pretty Oh dude Like Sepultura

With the Cavalera's With on Andreas, if possible. Oh, my God. That would be really great. I'll pay whatever it's cost. Yeah, that would be, that would be really great. I'd pay $1,000.

Because they're just like, they're... Yeah, that's that band. It's the blueprint. Yeah, it is. The progression of that band is... That's the best of all time. Favorite album you bought purely based on

Albumar aesthetic? Ooh, dude, Chaos AD. That's a really good one, actually. try to think Thriller for sure That's hilarious It was definitely just like I wonder which

Tower Records 9 years old Wonder what record is like the Michael Jackson Record I should get Fair For me I was on a field trip I think this is like I'm already into hardcore I'm a hatred guy

I'm a crime of thorns guy but I don't have a way to actively Google stuff but I saw the Ice Pick record in a Tower Records or something on a field trip and just bought it while I was there and then heard that it was like everything I, every guy I like was playing in this band.

So that was nice just to discover a new band purely by coincidence on this low-res JPG that they used for the album art. Utah today can't close my eyes like the OG one where he's X'd up very much so and I'll say um oh I just I just had it and I lost it son of a biscuit not sure but that's a good question I like that question

Tenchi muyo asked does beau have riffs no no you got any in the tank right now um you know what I find myself um when I when I try to write a heavy riff it always comes out as very monochromantic, very predictable. So I tend to not even bother. Are you saying live on the stand that you have no riffs?

We've established this. You gave me a slogan. It was playful hazing. And it came from a place of like, no, but it's a joke because he actually does. But you're saying you don't. I'm just, my brain isn't in that mode.

You're not a writing. A writer. I did spend like four hours before the set with like fucking around with like a soft riff that I'm enjoying that I have a melody to you have a rip I did Wolfnote you know and like that was that was certainly collaborative but like most of the the song started with ideas and stuff that I had

but yeah I just don't have a I don't know how you fucking do three goddamn things like I don't know what you're you got to like alternate name basically. Don't do them at the same time. Yeah. When you finish one, give that part of your brain a rest. Do the other one.

Sometimes people go and they have droughts, you know, and I'm just on like a 35-year drought. And it's just, you know. I once went 27 years without having sex. And then again for seven years. All comes back to Michael Scott. X brains X. who has the hardest merch game in heavy music.

And then somebody said, the only answer to this is Cold is Life. And Cold is a great answer to this. I would say hardcore-wise, Cold-as-Life? Typo merch. Dude, some of the offense mechanisms, like some of those, like the old... Just actually, like, brilliant things.

You have a rather impressive and extensive Marauder. I do. Sure collection. and some of the, I mean, like, you're not going to beat the Marauder, the face shirt. Yeah, the demo cover. Yeah, the demo cover shirt. You're not going to beat that. And you're not going to beat the fucking Brooklyn, you know, Life is Pain shirt.

Yeah, the Life is Pain design is like the best hardcore shirt ever. Yeah, it's probably that. And the best wish is down but not out tour shirt. Down by, not a hood. Yeah, that's a good one. Let's see the video of Colin kicking the guy in Austin For bathroom tier list Starbucks S

Everything else COVID ruined so much of everything, dude What do you say? When I was out of town recently There are I would say 50-50 Starbucks bathrooms Under maintenance What

I'm shitting on the door if that happens It's not a reliable source anymore. That can't be. Where were you? Northeast. Undisclosed. Undisclosed location. But also like when we were at Furness Fest, when we were at when I was in L.A.,

I would like the Starbucks and Panda Express that I went to, the combo, bathroom, sorry, out of order. I can't. COVID. COVID. I mean, yeah. I mean, it literally is. was like, okay, we don't have to do this anymore because of COVID. Why, like, let's just not do it anymore.

Let's just not do it. You know. We'll shit in the back. I was so afraid of free refills disappearing. Oh, yeah, forever. Genuinely terrified. Alex Prince Bach, Red Bull flavor tier lists. You like the other flavors?

I only, I can only drink the zero sugar ones. I'm a sugar free man. You know, so like, I'm not drinking heavy, so I'm not. I'm not doing the spring, the summer, none of that. There was a coconut berry one that was cool. What was the good one? The cranberry. That was like the original like, oh.

Oh, they're trying something new. They're trying something new. But it made my teeth feel like I had socks on them. We're not those guys. We're Sugar Freeman. Sugar Freeman. Bo, what is the sample at the beginning of unreality of post-human? Ah, I can answer that.

That was from a movie called Hell's Angels by Howard Hughes. old enough that it was public domain. Wow. Isn't that the best? Very good. And the sample is, are you mad? Can't you see they're just words? And in the movie, it's in reference to being drafted into World War I. Wow.

So the guy's going off to die and you're saying, are you mad? Like, these are just words on a paper. You don't have to go. It's money. All they want is money. Right. And we kind of, while we were listening, and I wanted to reference this movie, we were like listening through parts

through this like kind of monologue this guy has and we noticed that that part was like had a rhythm. Are you Matt? Get you see the judge warrant? Get you seen that just words? I am Matt and we just kind of matched the BPM and there you go. No royalties for public domain babies. Did you know that any

like piece of military art or design is public domain? No. You ever see the Twitching Tongues hoodie with that's like it's like a green hoodie and we have all those military patches. I have it. Those are all public domain. That's why we were able to just do whatever with them.

Those are real things that we just put our name on or our logo on, basically. Wow. I had no idea. They're all real like patches. Sorry, Bruce LaPage. Bruce LaPage, just so you know. Friend of the show. Everybody, I mean, nobody gave us flack for the World War V veteran jacket thing. And we wouldn't have done it.

Unless Bruce gave us permission. And I was like, Bruce, is this offensive? And he's like, I'm, no, I think this is sick. So there you go. I wouldn't print it today, but. Yeah. But one of the sickest things ever, right? Another funny thing from post-human is there's another,

there are other samples on that that are from like a, a twilight zone that are from a, from the movie from hell. but it's us reciting it Oh yeah I did I had to do that I had to do that on gaming Pursus because they wouldn't pay for it

Because they wouldn't yeah Iron Giant I had to recite The song the duck and cover The Vosophon That's just me singing the song What's the best Mosh and shoe of all time

And why is it the Air Force One I love Harmsway baby That's from Gerard Harmsway Dooling Thank you, Gerard, HWD. That's good. What a guy. I don't really mosh anymore.

I don't know. I can't answer that. I'm not a Pittman. He's still got that in you. I do. I got that dog in me. I mean, I guess an Air Force one is probably similar to a Jordan. It's like a Jordan one in fit.

Yeah, Van, that's, see, that's the craziest thing ever. Why is that? Vans? Like high tops? That's a destructible shoot. I mean. I have Also, you ain't doing any damage

Spin kicking in some pants I see, but there's the difference I want a deadly weapon on my foot I did a I did a flip dive Once at a United Blood during terror And I caught a girl With the heel of my red wing Right on the bridge of her nose

See now that's And we made eye contact And I did like a kind of a thing And she was looking at me like Fucking furious and I never found her The rest of the fest And I felt really bad So if you're listening I'm sorry

See I love spin kicking with some Red Wings on. Get out of my way, you know? I don't, I never, even when I was like really moshing, I would never spend kick. You don't got it in you. I was a youth crew kid, you know? Yeah. You wanted to hug me. Doesn't translate.

I'll put me. I'll go ahead. I'll put you. You know? Yeah. Top, top lessons. I would love to see you gorilla press me. Oh, that'd be awesome.

Can we do it next time? I feel like I could, I could probably do it. I'm 200 pounds. Unbalanced weight. Would you go up for me or are you going to sandbag me? Oh, no, no, I wouldn't say it. Are you kidding me? You'd go up for me?

Of course. Then I could do it. Okay. I could do it. Top lessons from old heads. This is a big one for me. So when I was 14 years old, I started posting on a website called Strange Notes, which was Todd Jones and Ryan. It was basically the guys who made the original Sound Infuri.

Sound infuri, yeah. Made a message board, like a California version of the B9 board. Okay. We had one, we had Chicago Hardcore.net. And I was running rampant on there. I didn't know that there were consequences to things you said on message boards. So I was just talking. And I didn't understand that these were all people that lived near me and could whip my ass basically, you know?

Wow. Wow. So I would just ask for downloads of like new bands from new records. coming out on the labels run by the people that ran this message board and didn't understand why that was a problem. And like some bands got mad at me, some people got mad at me. And Riley, dude, Riley from Santa Fury made this post that was like they banned me at first and then Riley unbanded me.

And he said, the thing we need to remember here is that there is, this is a 14 year old kid. Yeah. Choosing to like follow hardcore. Try. Yeah. Trying. His heart's in the right place.

all he's doing here is trying to discover new music. And like he'll figure out kind of the faux pauses of like what not to do. But I think it's important that we welcome him and keep him here. So Riley is like my day one of my biggest, straight up, one of anything I do, he's one of the biggest supporters. Gorilla Biscuits, no reason why. That's what that song is about to beat up on a poser's skin. Amazing. I have a weird one.

But it comes to mind, so whatever. The first show I ever went to was a no-effect show in Chicago. And during the show, this is a weird thing to talk about. And I'm sorry if it's going to make the episode end on a weird point, but it stuck with me. There was a couple that was following,

a guy and a girl that were following me around the show and like groping me. I was 13. They were like grabbing my shit and grabbing my butt and following me around. And then like leaving the venue out on the street. like did it again and like winked at me. I was 13. This is a couple.

A couple. A guy and a girl. So they really dug your vibe. But what's fucked up? Saw you from across the venue. We saw you from across the play place. The pit. Yeah,

right. They, the thing that was fucked up is in my mind, I was like, oh, that's what punk shows are. Oh my God. That's just what people do at punk shows.

Because it was my first one. I didn't know. So the reason I'm even bringing that up is, It was once I realized how fucking crazy that was. I never saw them again or any. Obviously, that's never happened again. Yeah.

It made me, um, vigilant for young people at shows. I love it. Whether, whether attending or, or playing or whatever, it just made me realize like,

like, oh, there's like a little kid and I, granted, I was 13. I was getting there. Yeah. But like,

if there's like someone who's young, like, I actively try to make sure that they're in a spot. That's wonderful. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's like, it's silver lining

to a really weird situation. And I was fine. Nothing. But still it could. Very well could have. Could have. It could have been like a very aggressive, older guy. Totally, totally.

Really weird. But I've never had an experience like that. It taught me a lesson. It was the reason I brought it up. Correct. I mean, I feel like do we, do we pick this up next week and maybe make it a two-parter?

Because we have truly not even scratched the server. I would love that. It's fine with me. We don't have a gas lined up. We're at over two hours. Yeah, we're at where we should end for sure. Yeah. And I feel like maybe we pick up next week with Boe. Bo being touched.

No, we don't need to do that. It's fine. Was there a white sauce involved in this interaction with that? You're a real. Echo. What is Colin? Colin is a bastard man. He's so sick.

So, son of a what? Did you say you're calling? my mom a bitch is basically. Basically. I didn't say it. Echo said it. Well, I think this is a two-parter because there's one million questions left. That's amazing.

I love it. This is what I want. I know people like the guests, but it's hard to coordinate. I watched your thing with that other podcast. Please remind me of the name of the show. Scoped exposure. Thank you. What did you think? I thought it was good. I thought you did a very good

job. I was dreading to see what you were going to say about me, but it was very pleasant. Yeah, I love you. Why'd you laugh when you said you would put me on the Big Brother show? Did I? Yeah. He said he would have the worst time. If you were on actual Big Brother? But with all these friends of mine?

It just would be funny, I think. Because you're a wild and crazy guy. I just think you are so in your own head sometimes that in like a way that really only me and like five other people in this world can see that I would get a personal kick out of it. That you would enjoy it. That's all it is.

But one thing that you said was wrangling the guests. The fucking worst thing ever. And for those of you listening, that still remains the worst part about this. Oh, time. But that was part one, I guess, of this episode 30 special Q&A.

So 31 will be the continuation. So listen to it so that the numbers are good. This show has seen unbelievable growth in these 30 episodes. And we will for sure continue to have guests. I'm not saying that we're going to. Yeah, no. It's just, it's nice to have a breather. These will still be rare, and I want them to, when they happen, I want people to be like, yes.

Yeah, right. It's a common love of the two hosts. Exactly. And there's plenty of love. You fucking cock sucker. You're a real bastard, man. All right. we'll see you all next week

and enjoy the show tonight in Brooklyn if you're coming. If you are not coming, bye. Thank you all so much for the birthday wishes. Thank you so much. Happy birthday, bye.