HardLore - A Day in London with Chubby (The Chisel)

Episode Date: August 24, 2023

During HardLore's UK excursion to Outbreak Festival, Colin and Bo spent an entire day in London, England with the enigmatic and incomparable Chubby, frontman of Chubby and the Gang and Guitar player for The Chisel, two of the UK's premiere punk bands. They talked about Chubby's many gateways into punk and hardcore and stop by several Camden staples, such as The Underworld and All Ages Records, and the boys get a history lesson in English slang, the monarchy, and Chubby's experiences touring the U.S. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef This episode is brought to you by ATHLETIC GREENS! Try AG1 at athleticgreens.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1. Join WHATNOT with our special little link to get $15 off your first purchase. Get ready for the first ever Hardlore live auction TOMORROW, March 24th at 8:30 PM EST: https://www.whatnot.com/invite/hardlore Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW CHUBBY: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/chubbyandthegang/ INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/thechiseluk/ FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe Check out our merch at https://knotfest.com/store/?view=hardlore Find all of our videos at https://knot1.co/3vWXsbx #HardLore #ChubbyandTheGang #TheChisel   HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER   For sponsorship opportunities, email us! [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Hello, welcome. It's Hardlore time. We are here in London, England. I can't believe it. Live in person. We have one single day in one of the greatest cities in the world. In the whole world. We don't know what to do.

We have no guide, nobody here to help us. Oh my god, it's Chubby from the Chisel and Chubby in the gang. And he's my top. I've always got his son. He's ready to go. Do you want to come around with us today and show us some stuff? Yeah, go ahead. Let's go check out London, Chubby style.

We are here in foggy Camden Town at the Underworld. Chubby, tell us a little bit about the Underwolves. This is one of them venues that all the bands that come through play, like the Chisel and other classic oil bands like that. But, you know, I spent my whole life in here. Like when I was a kid, they used to come in all the fucking time. I saw bulldoze here. I saw fucking all sorts of bands here, but yeah.

Another classic oil band. Even now, napalm death and carcass flyers were in the window. There we go. Suffocation fire. There we go. This is a venue you grew up. My first shows was here. Yeah.

My first show was down the street. It was like Cold World and a couple other bands like that. But this was like the venue that I'd like regularly, regularly started going here. And it was like whatever. Yeah, proper, yeah. And outside the front ear at night, you see all sorts of characters. So you just wait here and you see a lot of funny shit happen. We'll do a time lapse.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. When the sun goes down. How long into your tenure as an underworld showgoer did you get the nickname Chewby? Pretty early on because I was quite fat. So that's where it came from. It didn't come from your hulking, beastly, bulging hog?

No, that's all socks. What is the, is there a history with Kandem and like punk rock? Yeah, so like, I mean, basically this venue and like down the street in the market, the market is where you buy all your like punk stuff, your shirts and all the all the boots. There's like a boot shop just there. It's like fucking, this was like the alternative spot. And then in like the kind of like later 2000s, it kind of turned to a little indie place, but still got lots of punch here.

Get all your oil shirts here. There's oil shops. There's all ages down there. This is like sort of the alternative center. Like everything's here in like, you don't have to like travel too much. It's all here, you know what I mean? It's all right here.

Everybody's a little dirty, a little stinky. A little smelly. But we all, you know, we're all the same. A little shaved. Little spiky. What was the first man you were in that played the under? Oh, fuck. The shoes.

It might have been. Oh, no. Vinyl reaction blade here. But like, like, support we supported no tolerance yeah what a gig yeah was it right I think rival mob played here as well what a good would it you've played here you must have played here you must have played there yeah yeah because it was us and brutality will prevail even more bit a minute but it's true that everyone

has played here everyone's fucking played it everyone's going strong terror you can see you come on a Saturday terrorist plan yeah just wait around the terrible beer I saw martin. Yeah, he's over there. Right around the corner. He's over at Woody Grill hummus. You mentioned all ages. Maybe we should go there.

Yeah, let's do that out. Should we do that? Oh, yeah. So this is all ages records. This has been here before I can remember. A thousand years. Since the start. You get all your records here,

all your records, bait down, chisel records, whatever you like. There is an ancient pastime. Touring as a guy in a band. Yeah. The first thing you do, you hit the letter of your,

band. Oh yeah, yeah. You gotta see if they got it. I went to the sea. That was the first vinyl I ever bought. Seven seconds, the crew? The crew from a hot topic in Schaumburg, Illinois. Classic Schaumburg activity. How long have you been coming here? Oh, I mean, this has been since

I've got into it. Going to the under one and coming here, it's like a teenage childhood all over, yeah, yeah. Checking thanks list finding stuff. Looking for the scar section. Oh, fuck yeah. Looking for that chisel record. There's a Boston 7 inch on the on the wall right now I might buy.

Some good shit in there, honestly. We're in there, so yeah, it rocks, dude. We're all in there. Should we take a look? Let's take a look. We're going to take a look. There it is, dude. On the wall, 10 quid?

Bargain. Yeah, mate. Bargain thing. Bargain, dude. You're the featured. Guests of honor. Anything in there? Oh, that's sad.

If the gods say it's in there, I'm going to go and... I already found it. Fuck. An old one. 2399. Southern California. metallic hardcore stunning debut LP.

Stunning. On orange and black, merge vinyl. Never heard that. You know what I'm? I play guitar at this time. They shouldn't have let me do that. What do we got? Got some chisel? Oh, wow. Oh, wow.

RIP. Oh, you have proper stuff. Hardlord Detroit documentary. Coming soon. We're on the wall. We got a mask front, rancid, down to nothing. trial down to nothing all my sons

RIP All right maybe we're in metal Oh shit Nocle does there you go What is that Let's read it What do we got

Repress of the debut LP From Atlanta's toughest band Recorded in California Music to stomp on people's heads That is correct Limited black and white pinwheel vinyl Look these guys man You know him

I know him You buy records on tour or ever? I don't because I'm just like... Let's get smashed. I'm like, oh yeah, I've got this. Back in the van. Yeah, I was like this. Sleep using as a fucking pillow.

And then you come back and it's just like in peace. And I don't know if that's good 50 pounds. And then you've got to fly with it or something too. The true story about this, the life in depth demo. Back when that came out, whatever shirts they were wearing were like bands that I was like, okay, I can like them. Oh, you know what I mean? I think who was the real tall guy who was playing guitar for tariff time? Doug?

Doug. I think he's wearing like a throwdown. That's how I got in a tar before throwdown. That's how. That's why I'm I'm totally anti-band promos where bands aren't wearing band shirts. Yeah, that's the gateway. That's the gateway dude. Dude, look at like Dynamo Machine Head video.

Yeah. I see a neurosis shirt. The one way or the Chromex. Yeah, the Chromex. Yeah. Fucking unbelievable. Sepal Tura and all them sick and the matching sick of it all shirts in that promo. So, yeah.

So, thank you. Wear, wear fucking band shirts in your prime ones. Let them know. Let them know. Put them on. Gatekeepers, man. Fuck your black shirt. Yeah, my.

Fuck your Jack Daniels shirt too. Wear a fucking band shirt. As you knew Rancid's out today, they're playing London today, too, friends of the show. I saw Rancid at Plunk Rock Bowling. It's honestly one of the best sets I've ever seen. Did you guys play that? Oh yeah. Yeah.

How was it? Hot. Hot? Yeah. Right. You gambled? Oh, yeah. How'd you do?

Oh, good. Not good. You got to go with your boy. Yeah. Because I'll do worse than you and then you'll find you. I'm doing like car shit because I was doing like roulette shit. I don't think roulette's like. It's a slippery slope.

There was one day I, the last time I ever played roulette, I put $100 on red 16 times in a row. It was black 16 times in a row. Seriously? And I had not played the roulette set. It's got to be the next one. That's, that's. There's like, well, surely it can't be 15 in a row.

Yeah, right. And then on the 16th one, it was like... What was the 17th? It was probably black, but I walked away. You know? I went in, first time I went there, was a violent reaction, I went in, put a 50 on red because of the floor punch.

Yep, of course. Lost it, we'll straight out. Armsway does that every time. Yeah? Because of a floor punch every time. Every time we go to anywhere on the casino. Going to AC Saturday night. 50 on red.

Better be right. Never been AC. Any good? No. No. The worst. The worst. worst and the Taj Mahal is gone so tragic nothing's so good enough all right you

hungry yeah I'm feeling a wee bit peckish package what you want to do should we do something like really British wait chippy or you don't get both you can get chippy you want to do chippy kind of I'll do chippy but like sausage sauce you yeah come on This is right away. You can literally. Do the chisel record around here? Yeah, we've done a demo in there. In there? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, yeah, no. That's at the Camden Town Market. It looks, it's a little different now than what it used to be, you know what I mean, but back in the day is to come all the fucking time. Sure. I mean, it's fish and chips right here if you boys want it. Is this the one? Wow. I don't know if it's the one, but it is, it is at our wodes. I've never been there, that's what I mean.

It's scary. Hey, no regret, no regrets just memories, boys. All right. Let's go. There it is. Hey, it is what it is? It is what it is. Ain't what it ain't. All right.

Yeah, you fry up a piece of fish and put some vinegar on it, I'm fine. It'll be nice. It will be nice. You see you ever see a little British kid and just think, you little fucker. Yeah, I just want to fucking keep you in a fucking head. Hello, you're all right? Are you still, uh, do you do take away? Do you want to sit down?

Yeah, sit down. Yeah, sit down. Yeah, it's not like a sit down thing. It's like a get it and get out. but it's all right walk around with it rest my trot is a little second yeah you just got work more trauma my my thing here my thing here is a battered sausage that's a battered sausage awesome I don't even get the chippy fatted sausage with chips with chips oh yeah the chippy is the chip is the chip is the establishment so I thought I thought chippy was the fish and

the chips together chip is established they sell chips I love to learn. That's traditional. That's what I'm here, boys. Hadda from Cod. Coddies, yeah. Yeah. Snake pie?

Yeah. Is that dope? Yeah. That's, what are some other words I should be using? My, Savaloi is a sausage. Yeah. Do you have Coke a pork? Oh.

Yeah. Yeah. You have a diet Coke? Thanks. Oh, me too. You know what? I'll take a Diet Coke as well, please. Yeah, why not?

Oh, what's your favorite thing? Fish and chips? Fish and chips? I do it. You're a haddock lady. I'm going with, no offense. I'm going to do the cod. Yeah, do the cod.

And can I get mushy peas on it? And a pickled egg. Oh, I feel like I got it. We got to try the mushy peas. You can make that, what, three mushy peas? Yeah. Oh, I love mushy peas. Okay.

Thank you so much. I got cheese. Oh, glass. Bob's. Thank you so much. How long you've been nutrition? I've been on it like, I've been like actually on the roads like doing it maybe like six seven six years. And then I was like training for a bit before. And before that was a minicab driver. Yeah, yeah.

Two classic blue collar skinhead gigs. Yeah. Boy, shop street sign holder, mini cab driver, electrician. That's the trajectory. Every legendary skin had to have the same three jobs. Good for you, man. Now I've got a ponytail and a mustache. Fuck yeah, dude.

The retirement plan. But you've kind of got the ponytail and the ponytail and the... Yeah, I'm iconic. Yeah, I've been saying, you know, my normal American slang, it doesn't feel right. Yeah. What should I be saying? Like if my... Because you, you blew my mind.

blew my mind with Give It Wellie. Yeah. That's part of my lexicon now. Oh, I'm glad. Yeah. First of all you need to get rid of all those teasing you gotta say. Butter, water, all that, yeah, that's, yeah. No more of that. No more tease in your in your vocab. That's gonna be difficult. You know, but a bottle of diet coke, please. That sounds good.

I don't have a bottle of diet coke, please. You're doing an impression of yourself. Yeah, man. Like I said in a lot. Yeah, man. I can't stop doing it. British impression being British and it drives me up the fucking wall and people at my work will look at me like why is that is that that did you do that pre Austin Sparkman no that's the post-o no no that's him he brought that out he brought out of me yeah he said what if you were British yeah I was what would that be like

what if I was British what if I was pretty he also depends like up north they'll say like oh this is that's class class yeah how do you feel about that they say You made a face when you said that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Got nothing against the north. Okay. Class. Choice.

Yeah, choices. Yeah, choice. You could sort of just like, the thing about the British languages, you could just sort of throw anything in there as people just get on the context, not I mean. You know what I'm saying? Just hear stuff. I hear stuff all the time.

I'm like, what the f you just made that up? Yeah, you made that up. I was glad you're as confused as weird. Yeah. Like different sayings and shit, like my, someone said to me this morning, you're trying to ride two bikes with one ass. It makes sense. Did they say it like that or was that a little more? You're trying to ride two bikes with one app.

One a arse. Yeah. Arse. Yeah. Soft. Ars. Lower case. With an R in it.

A. R. C. You're spay it like that. Trying to buy two boxes and one off. Yeah. That's a good. That's a good album title. With that.

All bollocks, no trousers. I love. that one when I think that's the next chubby right I think so yeah but then I was I was worried because then I'll be like well everything's bollocks related nuts or bollocks no trousers yeah something to go down in dangerous slippery slight ways good that's that's yeah we've seen what you're working with yeah yeah wait in movies and stuff when it's always a British accent like stung-o-licks are they're all British yeah Where is that accent from?

Do you know what I mean? Star Wars. Oh yeah, the one like this. Yeah, that's like a posh southern accent. Like, where's Alec Guinness from? Yeah, you know, you fuck with him? You know him? He's Obi-Wan.

Kobe Juan Canobi? You fuck with him? Oh, yeah. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not seeing Star Wars. You were, and it's honestly walking around UK for a day makes me understand how nobody I know from here watches movies. Oh, I don't watch a movie.

Yeah, see? Ever? No, no, it's. The first time I met, broken deep, is the same. I watched a lot of Borat. You've seen Borat, yeah, yeah, of course. That's a culture, I mean, come on. That's a milestone.

You turn 18, you know, you... Sit down, you watch Borat with your whole family and, you know, make a thing out of it. You watch movies on the plane? No, I just sleep. You too. You can sleep on the plane? Yeah, as soon as it goes...

I'll just go. Oh, man. That's a superpower. Good for you. Yeah, you slept. I slept the whole way to Australia. So you had the best. time. Yeah, I was just like, teleported.

Oh, my God. I go like this. I go like this, and then I just go. That's a gift. It's truly like the physical makeup. It's a bloke thing, no, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's a bloke thing. If you want to sit like this, it's a bloke thing. By the pool, at the pub, on a plane, just go. What's the average straight-edge lifespan of young British? I was straight-ers. So, like, and all I did was shot lift. Okay. All the time.

Yeah, I mean, we gamble. Yeah. Yeah. You got a shopper. Gambling here is like, it's more readily available. I feel like it's less thrilling. Like you do it more on the horses and stuff. Oh, right.

Like people gamble on the dogs a lot and like, like, or like football stuff. Like it's less of casinos. They used to have these things called fruit machines, which in the pubs. So they like call it like a one-arm bandit, but there's no, there's no. Yeah. It just rolls and you press, you just hold it. I'm in, take me there. You said used to. I think they might they tried to get rid of them because I think people were pissing their money away on it well. Can't a match ketchup? Yeah. This is a this is a fact this is a fancy fishing ship. Well, oh okay. Fancy a fishing ship. Usually it's like there's no seats. Yeah. Yeah.

Jog on. Yeah. You guys still say that one. Yeah. That's a good one. joggones like fuck off this one this one is still a thing is this still offensive not offensive it's more like cheeky then okay it's more like a too like so the recipient is like ah come you if someone like that to me in the street i wouldn't be like i mean it's not the same as going like that or something you know that's bad that's that's a bad more than that I would take more offensive song this is just like funny thing that's sort of just a bit cheekier I guess I don't know maybe I'm desensitized more to oil records. I'm going, when I see a really British guy, I'm like, that is a British.

No one has ever looked more. I just done a tour of the deep south in America. Oh, tell me more. Tell us. So I was in Alabama, Mississippi, and all that places. You're so awesome America. Few American-looking blokes down there. A couple of hats that you can't get in England.

Oh, yeah. Where'd you play in Mississippi? No, we just, we stopped. we stopped yeah because like the tour the tour route was like we did punk rock bowling yeah went down to l.a which was amazing actually that was that probably the best show of the tour and then um orange county i can't remember where that was the observatory you played l a then the day we went to detroit right oh shirene and then um fuck that that i know got to this golf club of all these skinners and um having to borrow some skinnese boots to get in

What? Yeah, usually like, here you're wearing boots is like, you don't get into the club. But there they were like, because I had, I can't remember what I had on, but they were like, oh, you need to have proper, like, lace up shoes or something. And I was like, okay. So I ended up talking to. I was like, excuse me. And then, uh, oh, sorry, sir.

All right. Yeah. Did you play in Texas on that tour? Where'd you play in? San Antonio. Oh, my God. Yeah, good, crazy towns. They love Moshin.

Yeah, they're like a lot of metal heads there. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Austin and Dallas. Very nice. Dallas is a wild town. Yeah, it is. What's that? What's that?

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And at Walmart. So I'd be in a gang play there with New York County. There was a fucking shooting like, not unrelated to the gig, but it was like a fucking shooting down the street. I was like, I've been a proper, like, English bloke. Be like, what's that then?

What's that then? the fucking car. I was like, oh. Sorry, mate, sorry. How many guns have you seen in your lifetime in the new cab? Well, when I was driving a minicab, I was doing a few guns in there. People would be like, people would be like chatting away to me being like super friendly, like, oh yeah, so how long you've been doing this, mate? Yeah, what time do you clock off? And then they go like, and put a couple of bullets in the magazine and be like, anyway, see you later, mate. And like tip me and I'll be like, that's like super. Yeah, yeah, yeah, big time. Like, you can't really carry a knife out of it.

Really? Yeah, within London, you can't carry a knife. Because cops don't really have, they don't carry guns either. It's more of like a special ones. Yeah, it's more of like a surveillance town. So like, if you were to like, something was to happen, there's more CCTV in London than there is in Europe. So they like, they'll just like work out where you've gone.

Dude, the first time we ever toured here, we stayed with some kid, was, and like, bless you, respectfully. This was a nice thing. to do he was like we've made you vegan burritos so i hear that and i'm panicking obviously it's not only you're sweating you're like not only not to die not to die from californ yeah yeah and i think it was like flour tortilla meo and like a like a satan ground beef there's one of the darkest moments in my life but thank you about you know it's a thought that counts absolutely they don't have cilantro here. It's a different. It's coriose.

Coriard in the air. It's like, oh, hey, I can't stand the fucking stand it. And every time I go to America, they're like, it's cilantro, it's different, it's different. The soap, Gene. Yeah, I'll go that. I've got that. Yeah. Interesting. Built different, dude. Can't imagine. Yeah, you are. Worse. It's built way worse. It is fucking disgusting.

I'm with you. Um, I just got into onions, though. I'm in the onions. I was going to tomato, so. Dude, they're dope, right? Yeah. Big golf. Oh, what we did. other sperm's man yeah you have to be right it's like a like in McDonald's for us yeah yeah we I accidentally ordered like 12 fried tomorrow yeah yeah she brought a platter she was like tomatoes oh she was I thought you were that you guys must love tomatoes and we're like why oh my god he's like no swear to god I don't I do I mean I do but trying to fit it's done to like

British culture we're not I'll have 12 fries a smart size please that's what they're I always find it really funny when like America's coming is Or we go over to the UK and people try to like feed us what we used to. It's like I don't want that. I want Mexican food. I want Mexican food. Yeah, should do. And people were like...

Thai food, Vietnam. Or we could take you to this, um... Where was I? Oh, it was in fucking, um, like Arkansas or some shit like this. And someone tried to take me to a fishing chip shop out in Arkansas. I was like, please don't do this to me. Yeah, they'll do that. When we were in Tokyo, they took us to a burrito spot.

It's like... Tokyo. Yeah, is it. Yeah, they tried to take us to Italian food in Texas. Tokyo all the time. I was like I live I live two hours from Italy. I've been two hours. Yeah, yeah I don't want that. I don't have taken Japanese friends to get wrong so you know, I'm they love it. Right is the best. How often do you eat a full English breakfast? Uh, seven days a week four or five. I would too.

That's what they're. Thank you so much. Thank you. That there's a sausage? Yeah, that's me. Cheers. Yeah. Thank you. Usually it comes wrapped up in newspaper.

Usually. That's the vibe. Yeah, yeah. I've seen a broad church. You've seen that show? You don't watch TV, yeah? I know. Thank you.

Wow, thank you. Oh, thank you. Man, the sausage looks incredible. Thank you. Thank you. Nice, dude. Yeah. Get him doing his diabetes shot.

this guy. Awareness. Type 1 or two? Type 1. I just got diagnosed like last year, year and a half though. Yeah, no, hit the big time. Yeah. We made it. Yeah, we done it. We did it. We did it. Finally. I'm sure my day's coming anytime shit. Gold medal type 1. Yeah, yeah. If I ate one more bowl of ice cream, I'll be diabetic. You got it in your family? No. I don't either. I'm gonna, I'm finished starting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm I've got, um, they fixed. It will be the first. Yeah.

Tipy. Ooh, look at that. Let me get a little drizzle. Yeah. Yon. You're going to use the tartar? You have to. You have to.

You have to do it. I don't. It's for the movie. You have to do it. I don't have to do it. Please. I don't particularly like it either. Please.

You don't have to do the tie. That's not traditional duty. It's not traditional. Please. I'm asking. You slept an extra hour today. You can't bring it up then. I won't bring it up.

We're even. We're even after the... I slept an hour later. Good for chip. A chip? And the target. No, no, the fish. Give it a little bite.

I'll do the same thing. I'm not really into it either. Yeah, you're a fucking service. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's good. I'm good. All you need is, huh? Do you want to try a bit of back of sausage, boys?

Yeah, yeah. Go on. Getting involved. getting balls like temporea sausage yeah kind of tempore sausage that makes this sound so much more that's that makes it sound so much more like

yeah tempera fish classic temporal fish that's really good give me a hard one okay i feel like oh there we are that one trick right whatever you're ready here we are George Benjamin. Tell us a little bit about him. First ever clock, time was invented here. Before that, there's a lot of waiting around. No one knew where they were coming or going.

There's all sun dials. Looking at the sun, walking around. And now you know where to go. How often? Thank you, Ben. How often are you, UK born and bred, come in and just look at Big Ben? Just to check my watch, really, just to like check the time, make sure that I'm all, my iPhone's correct, my watch is correct. My stock watch is correct. don't know that they they sink up the iPhone bet yeah that's how it works the source of all time you changed that we're fucked yeah yeah i love lying on the show lying that's not misinformation oh it's good yeah we purpose to spread it as often as possible what else we got here what's that i don't know i think they just built it okay that's the london eye this is the thames oh this is the thames this is the tames i've heard a lot about this

Bill Shakespeare, big fan of these fuckers. You ever been in there? I used to fish out of the Thames, swimming there, like laid traps. Really? For real? Not this bit, but like further down there. Yeah. Towards like Houndslow and all those places.

There's edible fish in this. I mean, it depends how much you want to keep your immune system on his toes, you know what I mean? I used to catch like crayfish out of the Thames. So you're straight up, your immune system was a fucking acrobat. Yeah, you know, I don't get food poisoning very often now. You know what I mean? sort of got it all out of the way when I was younger.

One of these is MI5 or MI6, right? That circle top one, I think, is it? Oh, wait, hang on. Is it that one? Yeah, the one with the clock on it. One of those two, yeah. That's the ankle break, right? Yeah.

Apparently with that building, yeah, you can't, there's no ground floor. You get in an elevator that takes to the top, and the further down you go is the more secure the passes. So I'm told. But, you know, what do I know? Yeah, well, you know it all. More than you lead on, I'm sure. Whenever we get interviewed by people, as California residents, they always ask, like,

how does California play into your music? And it's maybe the worst question to ever be asked. But I feel like that's different with London being like the birthplace of punk. You think so? Yeah. I feel like if I lived here, I'd be like songs about London. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm a sucker for that.

Oh, yeah. So what's the best one ever? What's the one where it comes on and you and the boys? in the pub or like yeah uh maybe a poggs one you know like white city i'll get i'll get a bit emotional because i'm from like near white city so when i hear white city i'm like it's me man it's good song song man it was a good boy you know it's alive but what a post post post COVID in the pub after lockdown was it real where the whole pub is singing the whole city's singing yeah yeah what was the song that came on

that made the pub come alive. People at that time, because I think it was around like the World Cup and shit, people singing Sweet Caroline a lot. Crazy. It is crazy. A real American fan. You could have gone in the pub and just been like,

sweet cat and everyone's gone, Bob, Bob, Bob. Isn't it crazy that that's not in the song? No, yeah. When I listen to it, I'm like, it's the horns. The horns, but the Bob, Bob, people are convinced. They should get into, they should AI generate one way. He does it.

Here it is. A lot. Check it, that. Hope you enjoy that. Who sings that? It's not Neil Diamond. Is it? Of course.

Fuck. It's old Neil, dude. He's a gangster. Yeah, he is a gangster. Shrek, is this a different Shrek or? Nope. I don't. That's our Shrek?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Shrek. He's this tied in? It all comes back to London. It all comes back to London. God, I thought he was cut. Shrek. Shrek.

Shrek was set here, actually. I don't know if you could tell. Yeah, wow. So what are they doing there? That's the aquarium. Oh, that's the aquarium. Yeah. That's the aquarium?

That's the fucking zoo. What are they doing there? Fuck shit up? Yeah, just make decisions. I don't know. How do you feel about the government? Not positively. Yeah.

Punk. British punk. That's what punk's all about. That's the way it's up. Not positively. It's not good. It's bad for everybody. I could take it or leave it, to be honest, at this point.

Are you allowed to comment on the queen? Yeah. What do you think of that old bitch? Yeah, I don't like the royal family. Yeah. fucking they take they take our tax and give me fuck all for it so speaking to them yeah let's go check out where they with oh shit yeah let's do that do you what some tracks i will send you some tracks you'll be like damn i love being british but i see i don't think actually i you have to say

a couple albums 100% they they don't really have tracks they have whole experience like the moon one yeah the moon one i think is pretty good i think that's the starting point in my opinion i'm of the the wall man I love it you're a theatrical guy yeah I can I can hear it yeah you'll like the wall I'm all about it watch dude the movie watch the movie really that's the way to experience I didn't know it was a movie it's fucking crazy it's like half animated and the animation is like narly and yeah yeah like even today would be like it's brutal you ever seen a michael jackson movie I'm a big fan of MJ oh yeah I'm a lifer dude I let the man rest the man could dance uh oh my god could he ever

could sing a hug. Do you ever watch the video of the first moonwalk? Yeah, of course. Holy shit. Could you imagine being there? The reaction is delayed because they don't know what the crowd is like it's like yeah it's like silence there's a pause for gasping. Yeah. So the first time someone did a windmill ever, gig or so it's like it's like imagine people just taking their hats off going. Somebody saw stick banders. What the fuck was that? We've we've we've heard a quote about how it originated. Yeah. Forgey Marauder claims they had to do the karate in the did. to fight off all the big skinheads.

So they have to be an early shit to like... Because what people were doing before? Just slamming. Yeah, slamming. Yeah. And they had to do the fucking, like... They had to like... Like full on.

Spin kicks. Jesus. It's stage diving which is to get away from Fouts. What a pleasure it is to see Hivez live in London, huh? Wow. Yeah, we didn't ask about that, NFA. What's your relationship with Hyvis? Oh, good.

I sang on the record. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I've known Graham fucking years and years, and he was in Dirty Money before. Which is like one of those bands, which I think is like massively underappreciated. Like, as,

because all the sort of like new wave of British hardcore stuff came after that kind of stuff. And we were like looking up to that as we were like, as I was certainly what I was. TUI was so the band. Man. That's where existing did a lot for UK hardcore. in general yeah you know what TUI is like I fucking love them and like the same way

a crown of thorns is it's like the lyrics are like so emotional and the riffs are so hard and the combination of the two is like the perfect like sweet and sour type thing you know what's what's your quote heavy doesn't mean hard yeah well hard and heavy are two completely different two different things right time rise is hard and that the lyrics being emotional makes it harder Two original interpretations of two different things that have been done before, but doing together. You're like in the pit going like, that's so fucking true, man. Yeah, straight. Boom, bum, bum.

Yeah, exactly. I went to the high-vis show in Chicago. Oh, yeah? A month or two ago. And it was unbelievable. Really? The reaction they got was un-fucking real. Every time I see him, I go, that's the last time we'll be seeing a venue like this, mate.

It was sold out. first time in Chicago yeah fucking unbelievable and they had a reaction that was just like what the fuck yeah yeah yeah good for them yeah and they've all been doing fucking they've all been doing bands for like fucking ages like obviously that the best when those guys finally get their day yeah it's like the end of it's like the end of a disney film you're like yes they did it man yeah it's like when shadow comes back yes yeah and home or bound yeah hi-vis being popular is exactly like when shadow comes back what do we have here Oh, this is 10 down, so this is probably the prime minister.

Oh, well. Oh, look, it's Carl from the Chisle, everyone. All right. What do we got here? Which fucker is this? I think this is a prime minister. Is it really? What's his name?

Carl Graham. No, I don't know. Who put the Toyota in there? No. How do you get in there? Oh, there's a bunch of them. Damn, is that fucking car ad? tour with the fucking...

You guys get past... I actually don't fucking know what the Prime Minister's name is. I think it's Richie Sooner, but they've been changing them quite quickly. They're not doing a good job? They're not doing a very good job. Brexit changes a lot, huh? Oh yeah. Now you've got to write a car name for tours and all sorts of shit.

Before you used to just be able to do whatever you want inside the same country. Sure. And now you have to write a fucking... I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I will say us getting into the UK easiest it's ever. Yeah really? Just unbelievable. So you got that going forward. What was getting into a UVRA problem with borders?

I've got a visa now. Oh nice. So yeah. For Europe or for America? For America. Because before we used to just sneak in. Yeah. But like if you Google my name now because they're like chubby shit like it comes up with like a list of bands I was in.

Yeah. I kind of shot myself in the foot there. The pains of being real cool and making cool. You make, they backdated it, yeah. So like, they backdated. So they were like, we went to the embassy and they were like, oh, you've been to America before and I was like, oh, fuck. Because you can get, they can pre-back, you know.

Sure. But the woman was cool with it. She was like, oh, that's cool. I was like. How do they feel about the arts? Do they, are there only grants you can get? Nah, here, no. Yeah, they fucking.

Fuck art. You, we are at the bottom of that list. Yeah, right. If anyone's going to get a grant, it's going to be a violinist somewhere. I ain't going to be like, you know. On Zimmer's cellist. Yeah. You guys think about bow tie.

Yeah, hilarious. I don't know. I've never worn a job where I have to wear a tie. I've never been in a job where I have to wear a tie. About like a formal event. It's not nice. Yeah. A wedding or, or,

or like, funerals. There's a question. There you go. So at home it's like punk kid, probably metal kid punk kid you know various forms of posts whatever yeah and then the ultimate retirement is like rockabilly oh yeah what is i saw a meme the other day that was like a man with his back to the camera and there's an escalator going up to heaven and an escalator going down to hell and the heaven once said jazz and the hell once said rockabilly dude straight up you know what's the

what's the british like old culture equivalent hell yeah i think it's that it's like i've You either go to jazz or you go to Rockabilly, I think. Really? So it's a bit of Bill Evans or you start getting into the meteors and then, oh, yeah, that adds up. I like Rockabilly. Necromantics has many tracks. Tiger Army goes.

Oh, 100%. Yeah, Tiger Army. Is it Tiger Army 2 or whatever? Hell yeah, dude. Power of Moonlight, Annabelle Lee, Cupid's Victim. A little bit of slide. Get lap, lap, slide. Under Saturn's Shadow.

You're a melody, man. Chevy? Do you do most of the writing for the chubby stuff? Yeah, yeah. What about the chisel? I do most of the guitar stuff, yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah. You're just a musical man. Just a musical guy. Thank goodness.

I was put it into AI. Nice. Here's a power of core. AI, make me an oi song. Make me something British. Guys, I come out with this song just now in the toilet. It's crazy, like, it's cool. We're going to the pub.

It goes a little song like this, hang on. Yeah, listen in two, in the two. Yeah, that one, two, three, one, one two. Take me to the pub. Yeah, we go and choose the phone. It's so funny, they're like, the label's like, right, so what are you going to do for a music video? We're like, oh, we could just do what we always do, go to the pub, it's like, yeah, could do that, but that was the last three music videos for we want. Yeah, but that's the coolness.

That's what we want. Yeah. What else do we do? And my post for of your video was specifically so that Kehill from Pure Noise would see it and go, all right. Yeah, it's good. All right, we got that. Facilitating. Yeah.

Let them know. And as... As American, we eat that shit up. Oh my God. Nothing cooler to us. Yeah. I'm not even joking.

If I ain't broke, man, I'll fix it. Absolutely. Like, you're over here. It's working, you know? Breaking into the American market is, like, the British band's last stand. I think it's, like, more difficult for us to go that way than it is for you lot to come this way, in my honest opinion. There's so much in America.

All we have to do is go, oh, bloody hell me old bloody guitar's going to do. And everyone was like, oh, that's really interesting. Nice. That was really good. Thanks, boys. What's your, what's your American English go-to sentence, you say? What's the one you break into? You got a mighty fine, oh, I can't even do it.

So I've lost it there. So this is Nelson's column down there. Nelson? Yeah. Who the fuck? Mandela? I think Mandela. Nice.

No one's been up there, so I don't know what's going on. Oh, okay. Oh, we're, we're, Bukhian. Ukraine's still flying. Buckingham's like through here. Yeah. This is... Fucking...

Fucking... Fucking... Nice. Yeah, so they do all the like royal fucking... Wholeship? Yeah, like something. People get seats up there, watch people ride horses around here. Oh, hell yeah.

There was something that happened the other day, but I can't remember where it was. I think one of them... They changed the king, I think. Well, they did change the king, but I don't know what they were doing here about it. Oh, okay. So... They got the show of the crown here. Oh yeah.

What's the vibe on you? I worked on the crown. Did you work on? A little bit. Yeah. You think it's real? You're asking me if I think the monarchy's real? No, yeah.

I think so. Must be. Otherwise, otherwise we've been lied to. Yeah, yeah. For a long time. Imagine that. Seems like bullshit. They never was.

They open the door. There's just an AI bot just making up rules. Yeah, that's what I mean. Might as well be. Might as well be. You've been past like 10 or 15 years probably. Yeah. Yeah.

Do our prime ministers and presidents have kind of historically sometimes gotten along? Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's right. Tony Blair? Yeah, Tony Blair. He loved it, didn't he? Yeah, they were down.

Tees of the pot. Yeah. Remember him? Red, white and blue, baby. Hugh Grant, he was a good one. Yeah. He's my favorite prime minister, Hugh Grant. Sam Neal, big fan.

Oh, I love Sam. Australian. Australian? Yeah. Wait, if you cross here, we can get a better look at the bucket of other. look at the bucket obviously let's see the move fucking oh deep of me I want to say where you want to

that video changed my life too the boys at the pub singing is it savage oh yeah yeah yeah in case you didn't know where we were yeah oh right oh for sure ask you this gone in in America gone other than like Washington DC there's no real downtown area where like the American flag is just like unless it's like the force unless it's that's like literally specific occasion at this point now in American culture it's like borderline a hate symbol right what is it what do you feel I'd say that I'd say the same is yeah I'd say like if you were to put that

out the front of your house, people would be like, oh really? A little sketchy. Like it's a symbol of oppression. Yeah, I mean, the British Empire wasn't. I mean, that's a Buckingham Palace over there. That's it, oh yeah, look at that. Irish, they weren't.

Oh yeah, I'm there too. We're all there. We weren't. My lineage is some kind of tragedy. Something happened. Some kind of Romeo and Julia situation. It's so funny, in British schools, it would be like, yeah, so there was this,

there was medieval times, and then some shit happened. And then basically it was the 60s. And everyone was cool, like. That's a great... We do the same thing with the natives and sleep. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, something happened.

And then it was the 60s and John Mennel was there. And John Smith and Pocahontas fell in love. Yeah. The, uh, the pilgrims arrived, they asked the natives leave. They had Thanksgiving. All the Somonians. Politely. Yep, yeah.

Brutal, dude. History is fucked. Yeah, it's crazy. I learned more like traveling with bands about British foreign policy than I ever did in school. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. 100% because like, if they were like accurate with what, they were up to it would just be like right chapter two when we went here and

fucked that up chapter three and then we went here and fucked that up we all you see that we fucked that up as well America fucked us up briefly are wearing it together boys eventually eventually well then they came back 1812 we fucked us really oh yeah burn the White House down exactly did we oh yeah I mean did they All right. I wonder what's going on at Buckingham Palace. Why is there so many people?

It seems lit. It's hard for us. I know it'll be. It'll be outbreak first. That's what it is. Yeah. The podcast stage is over here. The pre-show.

The pre-shows over. Jesus piece is playing down here. The prime minister's on his way. He's on the list. The PM. Prime Minister plus one. I was there and I was washing hard. I enjoyed myself.

I jumped off the street. stage I sung along. Spon kicked. Spunked kicks. Past tense of spin kick, spunk kick. Spunker. Span kick. Spunker. There's a video I've seen a bunch of times on like fail compilations of a couple standing right here and they're in the way of the Queens guard. Oh yeah. And they're like, like why? And they just get plowed. So there's a myth, yeah. There's a myth about the guard here that they can't react. Right, right, right. So people come up in the blood and they fuck. And they'll just like put the gun down fucking clock them.

Good. Wow. Yeah. They'll be like, ha, ha, hey, who, see, I didn't know that was a myth until this moment. Well, like, if they walk... I was planning to spend some cases from them. They'll be like walking down, they'll be walking in like doing this, and people get in front to go like, there, and they'll just go, bang!

Just kick them. And that's legal? Yeah, they're the guard, they do whatever they want. Good for them. They're like the elite, like, sort of... They're the Secret Service? They, like, as long as, as long as they're, they like, as long as they're, they like, they're they're like keeping the...

Yeah, yeah. Don't tell no one. You can't even... That's why they wear the hat to make themselves less intimidating. The fire engine red. It doesn't matter. It's just up next. That's...

It's not a horses here. Right there, right? Three-suit, three generations of suit wearing pieces of shit. The alternative podcast. They probably... Yeah, they're doing a podcast. About, they're the Tories, right? Yeah, the Tory podcast.

Ah. Welcome to Torycast. There's a thing. The song is happening. And announce this royal life. Good song. Great song. I'm Googling what's happening at Buckingham Palace.

Got to be something. Is there not an only fuckers everywhere? Not like this. Like they, they have a specific, roll to that to get the piece what is it these two over here they don't want I don't know I'm much ask him we're up to what's all this then we're gonna actually say that what he lads up to oh yeah all right yeah how often do you say that for real what yeah all the time I say oh is it all the like continued oh is it it's like

yeah oh is it I like continue like people get fucking like Stop saying that please. Is it? People in Britain say that? Yeah. So even in Britain, that's like... I just say it so much. I think we can cross this really.

I'm not asking what's happening. They turn old boy around. He's gonna ask. Excuse me. What's going on in the Buckingham Palace? Buckingham Palace? Yeah. Well, this place, there's an event going on

in some James. Oh yeah? Yeah, and that's it. What event is it? Can you possibly tell you? Can't tell me? No. Well, I don't even know.

We're not even though. We're not even sold. Really? Are we out done there? Yeah. So if you want to go down to... It's not outbreak fest, is it? Say again, man.

It's not outbreak fest, is it? Oh, is it? Oh, yes. If you want to go across the road, but if you want to go back on yourself and the next steps, that's it. That's it. No, no more that way? Can't go that way?

Well, you can do if you cross the road. That is it? All right. Do I want to go there? Sure. I had to have a walkie late. Thank. I'm giving the move. I couldn't move.

I couldn't tell you. What's your man you couldn't tell him? Because I don't know myself. Yeah, I was like, that's bullocks. I don't even know myself, mate. Like, bullocks. Oh, is it? Yeah, well.

That's something that Beau and I do to each other every day. What? I don't even know. Yeah, well. All right, yeah, right. And I think, oh, is it? Oh, is it? It's more of a...

It's way more hateful. It's always it, it's like, more of an acknowledgement like oh is it oh is it period i could feel the seed like sprouting in my oh is it oh is the seeds frowning oh is the seeds frowning god god i don't need they just run in the accent do you go well do you go home and turn off the accent yeah i'm not i'm like you can't wait the clock out from i can't even do an american accent i was about to do a little bit there but i can't even do it thank god that's over i can be myself now at home yeah about time Yee-hah.

Is there a British band that has reached out to be like, hey, the Chisle is sick or hey, Cheweregrin the Gang is sick that has surprised you? A British band. Yeah. Like British legends who have shown respect to the jazz master. I mean when GBA said that, I was like, fucking hell, but like... It's pretty crazy. It's unbelievable.

Trying to think who's... We get all these weird things like politicians would like hit us up about the Chisle. It's like socialist politician was like, oh, I love the chisel. And we were like, what? Yeah, I was like, really? Because there's another chisel, there's the Ted Leo chisels. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, we're actually, we want to do, we're friends with him.

Oh, yeah, we're friends of him. Do a split. We want to do a tour called chisels. Just chisel. The brackets, the, brackets S. Could be evil one. Incredible. Who's going on next?

Oh, the chisels going on next. Yeah, but what? Yes. Yes. But who? Yes. be it will be the most mismatched tour but fuck it'll be funny no the bit is the bit lives forever yeah i saw videos of things sang with sandwiched bug playing with citizens recently it looked

it looked lit dude for lack of a better word anything is possible yeah we talked with him about it about with ted leo about doing that's crazy yeah we just do stuff for the bit when i care of it's like yeah you know i could tell but is it funny but is it funny Tick box, yes. Chisels on it. Yeah. We're up for it. Well, and that works because the music isn't fun, you know? Yeah. Right. There's no hokey. There's nothing hokey or silly about it. You've got you found the perfect balance of... So this is where she lived, well, she lived. Yeah. Now what is the, doesn't the flag mean something? If it's halfway down, someone's dead. I know that much. It's all the way up. Well, it means something if it's up and something if it's not up and all right. What is that at the top? What is that at the top?

Yeah. Is that the English flag? I don't think it's something else. I think it's their house. Like Orange or Windsor. Oh, Windsor. Yeah. Kind of load of this guy.

Nerd over here. Orange was in a couple hundred years ago. Somebody played Assassin's Creed 2. I did. Yeah, me too. It's a good one. Which one? Dude, Assassin's Creed 3, I learned more about the American Revolution than all.

Is it in American Revolution? No. Yeah. ever play black flag yeah great dance it's pirate three is better to me yeah it's a little yeah yeah it's so good dude so uh they live there can we go over there sometimes we can go up to the you go up to yeah i just don't know yeah this looks a little oh we got a green let's go oh 14 seconds let's do it and we'll soon do forever maybe not no you can you can you can you can So are you Chicago native?

Yeah. I like it out there. First time I went there I had a really shit time. Someone smashed our van out. Oh yeah. Oh, I remember that idea. Yeah, and we drove around Chicago and the smashed out of van like looking for someone that we didn't know what they looked like. Yeah, yeah.

With a hammer or out of blood. Probar or something. And then... Walberg's your van. Yeah. And then when times I've been out of that, it's been amazing. It's a good town, I think. One of the best.

My absolute favorite. Chicago pizza, good. Very good. Hot dog. I had a good hot dog when I was there. You go to Portillo. Next time you go back, you get the Italian beef sandwich. Oh yeah.

You send me a message. All right. Sop and wet. We'll sort it up. Hot peppers. You know what happened to us the last time we toured here? What's that? We got pulled over in a sprinter on our way to Leeds and told we were overweight.

And you're like, how fucking dead? you talk about my body like that and they they made us they made us they were like well either some of you have to get off or the equipment gets off but like you can't go back on the road period like that was it and we're like well what we're in the middle of a corn field like a field and they're like yeah I don't I don't know there's a cab company we made a what we had a call a taxi from middle and nowhere and a leads it was like 180 pounds or something mate one time I got a fucking call I was like

Like, I was at my house, got a call. I was like, mate, can you come up the M1? Because my tires are popped and my van's overweight. And if the police come with my fucking van's overweight, they're going to find me. So I need to get rid of some of this shit in the back. So I fucking made all the way up the M1. Got out, we're putting all this stuff in my van

and then drove off with it. So that went by the time that the cops sewed up, the fucking van wasn't overweight. Oh, my God. Wow. You'll never have to worry about that in our land, shall we? Yeah, yeah. You put whatever you want in this.

there. You can get fucking trailers and all sorts of shit. Oh yeah. There's those fuckers. You think they're talking? They just chit-chatting? They have radios? Playing chess or something, you know? Night to A-5. Imagine he just went.

Yeah. You're like, just goes, fuck. Everybody goes, D-Side. Yesterday went to Ports and there was a kid in a

bullthrower shirt. Oh, yeah? He was wearing a bolt thrower shirt we're a coincidence right yeah we get here we're walking around 10 minutes we're we see first guy we see dside shirt two people is he called a bag sometimes people just like he approached me so at portillo's i went up to the bulltor care and i was like one of us has to change yeah he didn't think it was fine i'm not changing no he's like i don't want to have any other clothes i'm at portillo's this is in pra i'm not to eat yeah this is not it doesn't make sense sitting there with no shirt on at the

fucking first time just going for me that's changed That kid approached me. Yeah. Quick fist bump. Yeah, that's a metal, that's a metal head thing though, isn't it? Yeah, a British metal. They're like, so. See, I.

Yeah. Is that for her? For him? For her. That's what the big girl in the sky. Yeah. The big girl in the sky. She would have loved it.

You think she ever watched? From out here? Yeah. Oh yeah. Just like, No game. I only used to go out in the skies and the pace. So I've her.

Really? Really? So I've heard, yeah. Like fucking. On V day, when the war was won or whatever, apparently she ran out and got a leg over or whatever. That's awesome. Yeah, good for her. Good for her, you know, live your life.

Yeah. I don't tell you what to do. You know, you know? Yeah. You think she ever had like casual? Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's got money.

Oh, right. Oh, right. She didn't pay for you. Well's your oyster. So she supported sex work. Cleans your oyster. I'll tell you what. What is that?

That is the cube. Oh, that? You don't know the cube? I think I saw a toilet. The Royal, the Royal Lou. Never seen it? Have you not? No, really. I've only come here to play pretty good shows.

And then I have to leave. Seven out of times. Seven out of six. Five. Yeah. The one time we played here in 2012, with frustration from Ireland I was there you were there

yeah so you were there when the American guy got up on stage before us and gave a whole speech about how we can't rely on London surveillance systems oh yeah what the fuck and we were just like thank you it was like

people in the quick car up in like dude it was insane we played like a weird dance studio together in London on that tour it was downstairs I've blocked it out. Was it your brother or you that played Never Healed?

Do you think? No? I mean, maybe at this point. He might have filled in for him in some. Never healed. I wish. Great man. Anthony Gonzalez was never healed. Really?

Casey from from Casals. Yeah, he's in a, yeah. Oh, no, I'm getting confused with. Nails? Yeah. Oh, because everyone taught together around. together oh you're using you know yeah oh sick yeah nails yeah that's cool wow that's a cool tour yeah it's crazy never heal check them out bring her back well i've got brain damage

or something oh you're doing great you're working hard you know you're not sleeping you're touring you're getting jacked at the same time it's a tough balance i've been america in barbecue every day that'll do what's your favorite thing to eat Alabama white sauce in america Alabama white sauce oh my god white sauce is unreal dude That's fucked up. Fuck him, man. Other than barbecue, what's your thing in America where you're like, can't wait to eat that?

Mexican or a good New York slice. Floppy? You like them floppy or rigid? Nice and floppy and wet. That's like evil. That's the right answer. Life gives you lemons. Get it down your goals.

Get it down your goal. Well, we've seen all this bullshit, and it was a blast. We're going to close this off by making sure he gets. It's a nice pint at the pub. Wow. Chubby, thank you for this incredible day. You were the best tour guide imaginable. I feel like I know London's so well.

How's your mom, boys? He's amazing. Mess of luck with everything. We're returning you back to your favorite pub in Piccadilly? Still there. It's still cold. Is it cold? Thank you so much for joining us.

Yeah. It's still cold. Chubby and the gang, Chisle forever. It is what it is. right when i've been and enough sense enough said thank you so much see you next week bye perfect