HardLore - Brody King: The Sleep Demon
Episode Date: June 8, 2022Colin and Bo talk with AEW Superstar and God's Hate frontman Brody King. HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join ...the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER For sponsorship opportunities, email us! info@hardlorepod.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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And welcome.
It's hardlore time.
What's up, Bo?
Hey, man.
You see this guy?
Hey, what do we got?
Yeah.
To my left here, Mr. Bordy Kong.
Brody King, A.EW.
House of Black, legend.
God's hate memory is in my office here.
This is the first ever in-person hard-lore interview.
Hello.
Road dog.
Thank you for having.
Husband.
He does it all.
Keep going.
What can't he do?
Griller.
Groiler.
Broiler.
Boiler.
Smoker, but not of stuff.
Yeah, straight-edge warrior.
He got me this shirt for Christmas 2017 or something,
so I figured I'd wear it for the show.
So we're here to talk about touring, which you do,
you do more than us now.
Yeah, you do in multiple facets.
I think I do more than almost anybody I know probably than Andy.
Yeah.
Every week.
Your life is tour.
Yeah.
usually leave Tuesday night, show on Wednesday, fly home Thursday morning.
Wow.
Sometimes shows, sometimes I get home Thursday, fly out on Friday, get home on Sunday, do it again.
Just for other stuff?
Yeah.
Or when the Friday shows are.
Extracurriculars.
There you go.
Bonus shows.
You know, I don't know.
There's probably only a handful of people I've toured with more than I've toured with you.
we're going to get to the good stuff
like eating that's our
that's bread and butter
literally the bread and butter
yeah
literally the bread and butter
but I guess I'll just
I'll just start with a fun anecdote
that Brody here
is
in the fast food episode
we talked briefly
about some scary sleepers we know
oh
this is the scariest sleeper I know
he's a sleep demon
and I'll be honest with you
I'm not going to put you on the stake here because I'm a bad sleeper.
I'm a naughty sleeper.
You're a selfish sleeper.
I'm a very selfish sleep.
Oh, interesting.
You take the blankets and shit.
I'm a sleep colonizer, you know?
Yeah, if you go to, if you have to share a bed with Colin, you're going to wake up with no blankets and he is in a cocoon.
Those are mine.
And then you like try to like pull it back and it's just like, gruff.
Yeah, there's just nothing there.
I got to get, I got to have a leg out.
Yeah, you got to breathe.
Sometimes the leg is up and out.
It's just not fun.
I'm also a big like something, I got this for my dad.
I think we both like, just like our arms are in the air when we're asleep.
And we're like rubbing them.
You guys, you sleep on your back?
I end up on my back.
Can't start on my back.
Can't start on my back.
You are sick, man.
This man, I'll be shocked if you don't fall asleep while we're recording this.
I historically can fall asleep within 30 seconds of say good night.
Oh, shit.
So you could sleep on a plane.
Oh, yeah.
Like, if I'm flying to Japan, I'm sleeping almost the whole time.
It's not that he can sleep on a plane.
He can't be awake on a plane.
That's true.
He sits on it.
It's just like...
The plane engines at this point are like a white noise machine.
And it's like, even if I am fully awake taking an afternoon flight, I'm just like...
Nick and Chris will fall asleep before.
take off.
I can do that and wake up during landing.
Yeah.
It's awesome.
I cannot sleep sitting.
I think I would give, if not a foot, a couple toes to be able to do that.
To be able to sleep sitting up is truly a blessing.
Superpower.
What is he, what does he do in a bed that's scary?
This fucking sick bastard.
So at home, I imagine it used to be much scary.
The story of you waking up in your car three hours.
early for work.
That's like,
sleepwalker.
Oh, yeah.
So I'm sure you're gonna,
you could have a whole episode
with Emily telling you
the weird stuff I've done while sleeping,
but it's just like,
it used to happen a lot
when I was younger and I was working a lot.
I would get up at, you know,
four to five a.m.
to get to work by 6 a.m.
And I would go to bed at midnight.
So it's like I was very sleep deprived
and like if I was stressed out on the job.
There was a few times,
like multiple times.
it would happen and this was kind of normal
where I would just like
jump out of bed get fully dressed
and then it's like I look at the
alarm clock and it says like
2 a.m. and you're like what am I doing?
It's like if my brain just here
as an alarm clock and I'm going
but there was a few times
where I woke up
in the car car running
and I'm just like in the driveway and I'm just like
uh okay
let's go back in the house
like that's scary for other reasons about
I've met the sleep demon.
And let me tell you, he's a scary guy.
He wakes up, he don't trust you.
He don't know you.
Yeah.
Like, this man, if I make an incorrect move, which I tend to do.
Like, I'll just be like, you know, I'm like the fucking kid from Big Daddy,
sleeping on the newspapers.
And he'll just look up, like, if I'm looking to it, like, in the eyes.
Like, he doesn't know me.
Like, you're fucking, uh,
What's the guy, the Harry Potter guy in the maze and the end of the fourth one where he's like enchanted and he's like a different guy.
Oh yeah.
That's you.
Robert Pattinson.
Yeah.
No, not Pattinson.
Not Pattinson?
The Turkish guy or whatever.
He's just like storming through like stone face.
He's mean.
All of a sudden.
This guy turns mean all of a sudden.
And then I'm like, dude, you were crazy last night.
You're like, what do you mean?
Yeah.
Do you, Nate, so I do the same shit, but to a much smaller degree.
I have like on tour thought there were like like literal bees like like Tommy guy
like just like Tommy guy
Tommy guy Tommy guy I was like oh
you get an Andrew Morrissey so much shit that you've
But do you know what's funny
We have Andrew Morrissey has said Tommy guy before
Oh okay and I just did it
You know what's crazy dude we didn't even talk about
Jimmy Lemons when we were talking about Andrew Morrissey
in the other episode.
So we didn't give enough back story, I guess, last time.
Andrew Morrissey used to play bass in Harm's Way, The Killer.
He's a Chicago old G.
He's an old head.
Used to live with Taylor.
Used to live with Taylor.
He used to live with Taylor.
But is, like, famous for misquoting things.
And one time referred to James, the singer of Harm's Way, as Jimmy Lemons.
And Beau, I want you to explain what he meant by Jimmy Lemons.
He meant Tommy Pickles.
So he meant to say Jimmy Pickles
Which is
Which also doesn't work
What was the one?
He did the one at Taylor's house
The James Bourne
I'm James Bourne
James Bourne
But anyway
Like Tommy Guy
I thought there were bees
And like woke up
And like pushed
I usually slipped with either Casey or Chris
And like pushed them out
Because me and James are like, James is obviously very wide
and I'm somehow the next widest.
And so we never sleep together.
And I pushed whoever it was out of the bed
and was like yelling.
And James, I remember James going,
God damn it, as we all just went back to bed.
And then the next morning, what I was going to ask you,
do you feel like the like, do you have any like,
I kind of remember and feel embarrassed?
Like you remember the like, oh shit.
Yeah, I mean, it's,
It's happened my entire life.
So the embarrassment part is in that.
But I definitely wake up and I'll be like, I think something happened last night.
Something happened.
And I'll ask him, I'm like, did I do something?
She's like, oh, yeah.
And then it's like, so the normal one is like, I'll be falling asleep while watching TV.
And then like, Emily, look over me.
She's like, are you asleep?
I'm just like instantly combative.
No.
Why would I be asleep?
And she's just like, just turn the TV off.
I'm not asleep.
And it's just like, my brain.
just switches.
It's crazy that
the TV can put you to sleep
because when I try to put a TV on
to pass by me in a hotel room
you're like I need complete silence.
Yeah, I need darkness and silence.
And then I'm sitting there and just like
suffering.
But I live in this rift between
asleep and awake
that my brain just doesn't turn off
fully and then it creates chaos.
Like I remember one from when I was younger
I was just like stormed downstairs
and my sister and my mom were still awake
and I just start ripping apart a laundry basket with like clean clothes and my mom's like what are you doing?
And I'm just like, where's my fucking shorts?
And she's like, what?
She's like, I need shorts.
And I'm just like throwing laundry everywhere.
And she's like, go to bed.
And I just didn't remember any of it.
But, uh, yeah.
Did you find your shirt?
I don't know.
Emily's, uh, she's woken up and seeing me just like standing in doorways like just sit, just sitting up in bed like talking.
Like it's just.
it's weird and now like my children kind of have some of it too
oh lord wow and it's funny because like when i am asleep
like i literally sleep like nasphratu i just put my hands on my chest
and then i don't move you're sick you and james it's amazing are the only two people i know
who just like start on their back and they're out my wife laa is like that too i don't
believe that she like i'm like you're fucking spine on me i don't believe and just like she's just
like good night
Yeah.
And 10 hours later, wakes up.
You know, we're talking touring, and before you were a touring musician,
was music, was sleepwalkers before doing merch and rodeeing for bands?
Or was that first?
No, I'm pretty sure I'd probably went on tours with switching tones.
At least weekends and stuff like that.
Like with us?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, there was the Rainfest one that I couldn't tell you one.
detail of. Yeah, I don't know.
Could not. Like, was that the priest
outfit one? That was the priest's outfit one. Yeah.
He came with us. We went up there with take a fence
and harness and I could not
genuinely, I remember a lot of stuff.
I remember a lot of dumb stuff. A lot of
not dumb stuff. Couldn't tell you one detail
about one show on that.
I know details, but we can't get into it.
Well, there you go.
Somebody got hurt.
Yeah.
I think
the first one of my earliest memories of you
is when you were doing merch
or you were with riding out
and they were doing some bigger tour
and jumped on our show in Haverill
do you recall it was like a last minute thing
that hot ass fucking anchors up
anchors up RIP
Yeah so there's actually some stories
I was gonna tell from that
we will redact the band that I was touring with
but it was basically a segue
wait to be on tour with rotting out.
Okay.
I'm pretty sure I knew you before that, though.
We, like, knew each other, yeah.
But maybe not well.
Definitely not well.
It was one of my earliest, I remember you walking in with a merch bag and just be like,
that's a big motherfucker.
I just, like, probably not taking stock.
But, yeah.
I was actually going to bring up something from that.
So why don't you go ahead and just.
talking about it now.
So the band I was on tour with, I didn't really know well.
They were like, they had come around a couple times and they were friendly or whatever.
And then they asked if I wanted to do merch for them on tour.
They were going on tour, riding out who were my good friends at the time.
So I was like, yeah, sure, why not?
It was like a full U.S. tour.
I think I went from United Blood to wherever they were taking off from.
And then we did like a full U.S.
this was also
this was 2012
yeah because it was like
me and Emily started dating
and like two weeks later
I was like hey I'm going to go on this month long tour
see you
you know
priorities
thank God 10 years later
she's still with me
so with most things on tour
even your best friends
like me and Colin have bickered
and fought at each other
but it's just like
when you don't really know the people
that you're on tour with
and then that starts happening
it can spell disaster.
So
one story
I basically this breaks down to
I either attempted to
or did physically assault
everyone in this band
and they still
for some reason
drove me home.
But the one
the most notable one
one of them had it coming.
Yeah the most notable one
was a kid was
driving in the front.
I was behind him.
I don't know where we were.
We were like in the middle of nowhere.
And he's just driving like 85 through these like little country towns.
And it was like, it was pretty reckless.
And I was just like, hey man, maybe you should slow it out.
And then he just goes, hey, maybe you should shut the fuck up.
Oh my God.
And it's just like instant red hot.
Like the kill bill noise.
The,
And mind you, I'm sitting directly behind him.
In this moment, I did not care if I lived or died.
If the whole van blew up, it didn't matter.
Which I was willing to sacrifice.
So it felt like an eternity of me thinking about what I was going to do in this moment.
And it was probably a half a second.
So he goes, why don't you shut the fuck up?
And from right behind him, I just go, wham!
And smack the fuck out of the side of his face.
It hits the wind.
And then he's in the van just like, whoa!
Mindy, we're going 80 down like a country road.
Is there a trailer?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
And then, you know, we had to pull over and he had to kind of collect himself because he was like,
shaking.
Very dazed and confused.
Oh, my God.
But he stopped speeding, so.
Did he ever tell you to, yeah, shut the fuck up again?
Nope.
That didn't happen.
But yeah, you know, needless to say, I did not keep a relationship with this band afterwards.
Yeah. It's weird.
We, on the first big tour we did was the Acacia Strain tour with Terror.
And we did, Chris couldn't do it.
So we had this fill in from a band that like we didn't know.
He was from Florida.
He fucked up a hundred times.
Dude, this guy's unbelievable.
This guy, he said, he once said to me, I didn't know Bjork had a great.
girl singer.
We were staying in a,
we were staying at a house and it was,
I think it was in Arizona and like the AC was off,
but it was the fall,
but it was still like hot as fuck.
And I woke up and I'm,
I must be freezing when I sleep or I'm like miserable.
So if it's,
if it's warm,
I'm like losing my mind.
And I wake up and I'm whining about it.
And the same,
the Bjork guy was like,
well,
I think it's,
it's only like 65.
And I was like, yeah, but it's hot in here, man.
And he was like, I don't know, it's 65.
He thought his phone was a thermometer.
Oh, my God.
Inside the house.
True story.
He would also, like, play the wrong breakdown to songs.
He would just, like, go into, like, the wrong, like switch.
He was an idiot.
He one time legitimately said to us while we were driving, I don't know.
To me, it's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
You know what I mean?
Swear to God.
And everyone, like, Sabo.
was like, dude, what the fuck did you just say?
Record scratch.
Yeah, straight up.
Every thing would be like, that was fucking sick, dude.
I feel like this guy used to play drums and sleepwalkers.
Drums in, boop.
Yeah.
The drummer of that band notoriously fucked up the same song.
Every single time we played it.
And like to the point where like, we're just like, why don't we just not play it?
But then for some reason we would do it again.
he would fuck it up again and then one time
I just like I turned around and looked at him and I just
threw the mic at his face.
If you fuck up just keep going.
Yeah but he would stop.
He stopped playing every time you guys fucked it up.
Oh my God.
It was wild.
I love a dumb guy.
You know,
there's this, I don't, I feel like he listens to this podcast.
So I don't think you're dumb.
I'm not going to out you by name.
He filled in for drums for a band from California.
And he asked two questions.
that are so legendary to me that I still quote them.
One of them was asking a band from the Netherlands
if they have Xbox over there.
Oh, man.
And the other one was, this will hit home for you, Bo.
Was, does Illinois have ocean?
That reads like a Google, like, predictive text.
Does Illinois have ocean?
Yeah.
This is just like tapping on the message like, do next word, next word, does Illinois have ocean?
Yeah, that's stupid.
I'll ask it.
Our first European tour, I won't say who, but someone in our touring party asked,
is internet like the same over there?
I'm like, will their Wi-Fi work with our phones?
To be fair.
Phones?
Maybe no.
Maybe not.
I wouldn't count him out.
We've got to get him on
to the scientists.
Has Gatte been to Europe?
No.
No, he's been to Japan, though, which is crazy.
Have we been twice?
Or Gatsate went once.
Yeah, it went once.
Was it Gatte and twitching?
Yeah.
So that was just hard for me and
and POM.
And Palm, the great Palm.
We toured with Palm too on our Southeast Asia.
Got to love some Palm.
Yeah, they're great.
We could probably do five episodes alone about just things that Kale has said on that tour.
That was where the Ratatoui thing, which...
Right, I remember that.
Which Brody amended.
I was wrong about part of the Ratatoui story.
So he's here to correct me.
So the story, like, I believe you said that he had said it in the van.
And it was much more, like, casual the way that Colin told the story.
So...
I'm going to kind of embarrass him a little bit right here.
He was really upset because he had double booked a tour.
I think it was like his band,
misery and it was either God's hate or something on twitching tongues.
He double booked the tour and was kind of melting down.
This is like getting on the plane to go to Japan for a week.
So it's already starting off on the road trip.
He had a bad flight.
Yeah.
Just like thinking about that.
So as he's like melting down,
Colin is like sitting two seats away from him.
Oh, I gave him 20 bucks for the, for the row.
Yeah.
Because he got sat in a row by himself and I was like, I'll give you $20.
And he was like, holy shit, yes.
So Colin just decided to not bother him because he'd already been having a bad time.
Middle of the flight, it's like nighttime.
Colin's watching the TV.
Kale wakes up out of nowhere.
Frantic.
And he just like,
Headphones, I'm like,
what is Ratatouille?
It's a food.
I go back.
He goes, it's a food.
And he just goes back to watching the TV.
And he goes, no.
No, sorry.
It's a movie.
It's a movie.
And then he goes, no, the food.
It was so, I remember now that it was like,
take it off.
I need the food.
It's the food or?
So I apologize for,
after,
After having a mental break, he needed to know what Ratatooie the food was.
Dude, this is much better.
Yeah.
Like, when I heard him tell the story, I was like, you just ruined one of the greatest stories of all time.
I remember it that way because the first thing I did when we were all sitting in the band is to tell everybody.
I was going to, you guys are not going to believe what Kale said to me.
So that's why you conflated it.
I got you.
God, that's good.
Dude, I mean, Kail on that tour was just amazing.
There was.
Sorry, Kail.
There was a moment
and we were playing Osaka
where before the set
he was asleep behind the kit
while we were sound checking.
Oh my God.
We set up everything.
He was like,
he was awake setting up drums.
Yeah.
And then it came time like guitar for line checking
and he was like, I just need to lay down.
And then we're like,
Kale!
Kale!
Like, start a line checking.
And then he's just kind of like begrudgingly gets up, does the line check.
And then we get to the song Cannibal in the set list.
And it's like a fast song.
Yeah.
So on stage, in his hands, is saying,
not cannibal.
Not cannibal.
And I'm like, Kail, you're embarrassing me.
Play the song.
Did you ask?
You can't play the song.
There's always a cues.
I mean, there's...
Mind you, we just watched Runner play.
who has like the same drummer as Palm
and he's just one of the most
amazing people to watch.
It's literally 20 minutes of like
to get to that.
Yeah.
And you got Keatser's like not cannibal.
Kenta.
Yeah.
Kentza for Palm.
Shout out Kenta.
Very good.
In case you listen.
Dude, and what is,
dude,
Osaka's fucking amazing.
Yeah.
That had all the all the like,
like crazy like,
it's a crab outside of the place.
that like moves, right?
Like all that shit?
Didn't like Frampton play that show or something?
Warhead played.
What?
Yeah.
It was sick.
Wow.
Like Warhead opened for God's hate.
And Kale did the not cannibal thing.
Oh my God.
So sick.
So the thing with Kale is is like,
tour Kale is much different than Kale and like out of tour.
He could either be the best.
best person to be around or you're just like, dude, what is what is going on right now?
He goes from comedic mastermind to the Joker.
Yeah.
He becomes joke.
And it goes back and forth.
Yeah.
And the thing about him is he doesn't take care of himself at all.
He doesn't eat food.
He doesn't drink water.
It's like the one thing you'll always see is like the pop top monster, the green monster,
the OG pop top.
And it's like, I feel like I have so many stories just on him with monster.
Like one time we were driving back from Rainfell.
and I had to do the night drive
and he just like sits in the front scene
and he's just like all right I'm your
co-pilot
pops his big ass monster downs the whole thing
instantly falls asleep
Oh my God
but so he would get
dehydrated to hell
because he's only drinking energy drinks
and that's kind of what started
the not cannibal
we were playing in Detroit
with nails
and a similar situation happened
I forgot what song it was
but we
We finished the song and like we're kind of rolling.
We're supposed to roll into the next song.
He's supposed to count us in.
And me and Leo like look at him and be like, what's going on?
He just goes, water.
Like as loud as he can.
And then like I just pick up a cup of water and just throw it at him.
And then like it was a venue where they wouldn't give us bottles.
So it was like a Gatorade thing.
So Taylor's just like filling them as fast as he can to like get kale water.
Yeah.
The green monster.
Monster is so fucking brutal.
Yeah.
Oh, and that's his, that is water.
To old kale.
That is his, that is his beverage of choice.
I'm sure you're going to hear this.
Please let me know if that's what you're still.
I don't, I don't remember on Ghostmain what he was,
I don't remember seeing water.
I don't remember seeing monster.
I will,
I will take this into my favorite kale story of all time.
We were touring with King Nine.
Wait.
There's, I'm going to follow you up.
up with one that you're going to love.
Please.
I mean, I'm sure that there's so many that I'm missing.
But this is my favorite because this one gets brought up all the time.
It's King Nine, God's Hate.
We were going from Northern California to Seattle.
We stopped in Portland and we were staying at someone's house.
Oh, God.
And we were all, it was like, it was late at night and we were having like the like,
like sleepover, like giggles.
We're like, yeah, yeah.
somebody says pee-p and it's like,
yeah,
like everyone's just kind of like,
we call it the sleepy ha-ha.
Yeah, yeah.
So like,
Kale,
he never really did shit for like,
you know,
he never drove,
he never did anything,
but like,
for some reason this night,
we were like,
whatever,
Kail,
you take the couch.
So he fell asleep
hours before anyone.
And we're all like
fucking around
and laughing and joking.
And we finally,
everyone calms down.
It's dark.
this is like 30 seconds into everyone being silent
and Kael just goes
yeah
he's been asleep for hours
and everyone just roars with laughter
and then we all calm down
and he goes there's someone at the door
and we're just like
instantly just lose it
like whatever was happening in his dreams
was like he was answering
someone's knocking
Door knob.
Yeah, yeah.
And we heard all about it.
So for the rest of that drive and tour,
what's the song with the guitar like the...
Oh, uh, Dan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Leo would play that on repeat.
He would just kept starting the song over.
And he just kept going, yeah.
Dude, one of my favorite, I know you have one.
I have a real quick one.
You just mentioned Leo.
When we did, um,
Right before we went to Asia, we did, us in disgrace, went up to, we played Gilman.
And on the way, we all took Taylor's van.
And on the way Leo had put on Master Killer and we listened to it all the way through.
And it was a great time.
And this is literally one of my favorite things ever.
He went, all right, what do you guys want to listen to after the last song finished?
And everyone was like, oh, whatever man, he went, okay, cool.
Just immediately into Mastermind.
That's the classic Leo Rib is he picks a song and then he like, he forces it on you until it's like the most annoying thing.
And then it like mentally breaks you and then it's the funniest thing.
When he would play dog eat dog, it was like it was burned into my brain.
Until you love it.
Until you love it.
Dude, I mean, he and Baker, we called it a one a day like taking a vitamin.
Angel Dust.
We've listened to Angel Dust by Faith No More.
once a drive every day.
And by the end of the tour,
all of us love Faith and War.
What's funny about that,
there's a Leo,
the line from falling to pieces
on the other Faith on War record
where he goes,
Somebody put me together.
Leo walks around.
He would walk around
and say that every 10 minutes
for like a full day.
And you'd hear him from across the day
and you'd just be like,
Leo!
It's funny because, like,
Leo is not the most outgoing person
to, like,
for normal people,
so I don't feel like people know how funny he is.
But he is like a master of mental warfare
and he's a comedic genius.
He is the most brilliant gas lighter
to ever exist, to ever walk the earth.
He's also maybe no diss to Taylor,
my brother.
We've done great things together.
But Leo and I were,
there was some magic happening whenever we were,
like Mass murder was written in like a week and a half.
him and I in a room just like
barreling through it
he's a riffer
he is
and there was one practice
where
speaking of master killer
we were gonna it was like
let's write this song
but let's warm up with
with five dollars
the first song on five daily notes
played the whole
we ended up just
like no planning
no practicing ever
I didn't even know
that I knew the songs on drums
but we just played the record
start to finish.
It's one of those things
where we're like,
nobody's going to believe us
that this is a thing
that we just did.
Yeah, right, right.
It felt magical.
Just scarred straight on.
Just straight in.
Every other song.
Scat it did you.
And then just do the whole thing.
It felt great.
What was your,
you had another kale story
locked and loaded.
Oh.
So
we were practicing
a lot. I think this is before the last
rain fest. Kale thought we were practicing again.
Oh my God, dude. But we were
leaving for the fest.
So he wasn't ready. So we
showed up. It's
me and Anthony, I think we're living together.
We just got to Taylor's. We're all
loading the van. Kale
shows up late.
Like, later than he was supposed to be there.
And he walks right past us
like loading the van. Like,
He goes, so guys, just walks into Taylor's garage where we normally practice.
And he's in there for like five minutes.
I think he's just setting up the kit.
And then he comes back out and he goes, are we practicing?
It's like, we are leaving to go to Rainfest.
Today?
Oh, my God.
So we drove him home.
He and I together.
Yeah.
And waited for him to pack his bag.
And he was sitting forever.
like to the point where it was like an it was like an hour legit legit like no like
embellishing it was probably an hour but realistically 59 minutes
it was way longer than you need to put some clothes in a bag it was like it was like
all right should we just go in there and get him and he finally gets saying he's like all right guys
I'm ready and it's just like the a visible cloud of weed
he's just like yeah sorry it took so long it's just like pig pen it's just like
floating around him.
Like he was like,
he's levitating.
Does he take a long time to shower and shit?
Like at the hotel?
Yeah.
Yes.
And he falls asleep in the shower.
He falls asleep in the shower.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Chris Mills takes forever in the shower.
I don't know what he's doing.
Drummers, man.
Mike Sessar.
So I'm like,
I have a big pet peeve of people
that are inconsiderate of other people's time.
And Mike Sessario and
Kale on tour like
fill me with
a homicidal rage. Mike is
tired. Mike is perpetually tired
and that's where it comes to. Because you'll be like
Mike, get up. And he'll be like
dude, I'm awake.
Get up. He's like, when are we leaving?
We're leaving in 15 minutes. Okay, give me 10
more. The thing he does
like he's one of those people that I think has like
a 6 a.m. alarm, a 605, a 610
and 6.000. Yeah. And like
waking up Mike
he goes, oh dude, just five more minutes, dude.
And then it's like a half hour of that.
And then he's like, can I shower?
No.
You missed the opportunity.
That's the Chris Mills special, right?
Chris has gotten immense, like so much.
When, after 2018, when we, we toured like nine months, like,
that codifies correct behavior, you know, at least with, like, James cannot handle
bullshit.
You know what I mean?
So it's almost every single time
We'll get to the hotel
And because I usually drive at night
I'm first in the shower
And then first in bed
And then Chris will wait
Until everyone else is done now
And he'll just take like a 45 minute shower
But at 3 a.m.
So who gives a shit?
Well, that is a disturbance.
Yeah.
It's a good compromise
For us.
Chris needs his long show
Also anyone that plays a fucking show
And then doesn't shower after
Like you are a sick,
human.
That's next level.
That's next level.
If you wait till the next morning, like, you're disgusting.
Yeah, that's sickening.
But talking about Mike, it makes me think of another story.
So, leave him alone.
He listens to the show.
This is probably good.
Okay.
This is after he probably did one of his sleep things.
And then, like, we were, we were running late.
It was God's hate and disgrace.
We were driving from somewhere to Philly.
I don't know where we were.
Maybe, I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
we're driving to Philly and we're already kind of behind.
We stop at a gas station and Taylor forbids anyone from going inside.
Oh.
Just to just to save time.
Yeah.
And I'm just like, what's, what's his plan here?
And like me and Taylor, like, we're usually on the same page.
Sometimes I'm a little more reasonable than he is.
Sometimes Tyrant Taylor comes out.
But he like, he gives me a look that's like,
Just trust me on this.
But he wants to fuck with everybody else.
So he's just like telling them all that they can't go.
And him and Mike just get into a fight.
Like Mike's like, why can't I go inside?
Why can't I just go get a bagel?
He's like, because we don't have time.
I don't want to wait for you to go inside.
Take your time and then come back out.
We got to go.
Yeah.
And Mike is just like, I don't understand how five minutes is going to matter.
And he's just getting the most mad ever.
And like Leo and Kyle just kind of like let it go.
like let it go and it was like it was annoying but like they were just like whatever like
this is how the day is going to be yeah because when sometimes when taylor's in that mood he just
you just don't even fight it yeah sure sure so i'm just like where's this going we start
driving and then it's like an hour passes we're just passing gas stations too so i feel like
every gas station we pass mike is just getting more mad oh for sure was alks had me over with
maybe is that um i don't know
Maybe.
So like, I think I know what you're talking about.
Two hours in.
I was like, please, Taylor, I'm hungry.
Yeah, somebody, somebody said that.
Yeah.
And then like two hours into the drive, everyone starts goes, this is, this looks familiar.
And then we pull up to Angelo's pizza in Wilkes Bear.
And then, and then I feel like Mike was like equally happy, but also like couldn't show it because he was so mad at Taylor.
Yeah.
That he just like stormed out of it.
just like when ordered his food.
Taylor pan is heist.
Dude, it was like...
That's amazing.
Taylor wanted to ruin everyone's day
just so that he could have the satisfaction of showing up here.
And you didn't know either.
I didn't know.
He texted me up and...
But he was like, I just texted say, but we just, we have five like sweet sauce pizzas
waiting for us.
He got, he like gave me the eggy like, like just, just trust me.
Yeah, yeah.
Dude, we, I don't remember what tour it was.
Maybe every time I die.
or something, but we stayed at the
title fight house two nights in a row
because of proximity to like New York
and then Philly or whatever.
Both nights in a row, Saba was there
with Ben
and there were just pizzas
waiting for us.
Just in the oven, like, perfectly
cooled down a little bit.
Maybe one step closer's on to something
with this place you know,
record title, huh?
Yeah, maybe.
Really good.
I know the place, and I love the place.
I love the pizza.
I love the food.
I love the food.
I love the food.
Which is, okay, we got to save food for the end because I know I got to hear your opinion on some of these things.
I actually got asked like a, it's not a kale question, but I guess it's kind of a question going back to like people that have asked insane questions.
A couple of weeks ago, this wrestler who doesn't have, he probably will never ever hear this, but he has like no common sense.
He just, we're talking about different places we've worked.
and I think he was asking
how to get booked
in different places or whatever
and he just goes
Brody,
you're from the UK,
right?
I said,
oh yeah,
I said,
do I fucking sound
like I'm from the UK?
And he goes,
well,
I don't know.
You know,
like,
I just figured like,
because you're friends
with Buddy and Malachi,
I'm like,
they're also not from the UK.
What are you talking about?
One's from the Netherlands
and one's from Australia.
Oh,
it's so.
It's just like,
what is wrong with you?
I would love,
without, obviously,
with discretion,
I would love to hear
like punishing wrestling stories.
You have told me that,
you know,
touring in a band and doing the wrestling,
especially like on the more independent stuff,
is like really similar.
But you have also expressed to me
that wrestling punishers are like miles beyond music punishers.
You're in a unique position.
Right.
You're probably to get both quite a bit.
Yeah.
And like, yeah, I mean, it definitely happens.
You know, no fault to them, though, like, they are diehard supporters of whatever you do, which is awesome.
But sometimes the social tales aren't there to be like, this conversation is over and we need to move on.
where it's just like constant hanging around and it's just like so uh and they'll just ask you
some question you're just like dude i don't know like i have i have 50 people behind you can i
please can we please talk about this later no like they're the only moment they want with you and
they want to know what your favorite so so my my least favorite thing that that pro wrestling
fans do to me and i'll just tell you guys straight up
I don't like when I'm tested on hardcore by a pro wrestling fan.
Ah, interesting.
Because, for one, I guarantee that you've been to like five shows in your life.
You haven't lived it for the last 20 like I have.
And two, you just don't know as much as I do.
It's just, that's just the fact.
It's the Ron Twonson in the, in the Home Depot where they're like, you need help, sir?
He's like, I know more than you.
All right.
Is it.
But it's like, I'll be in like,
I'll be in New York City and someone goes,
so what's your favorite New York hardcore band?
And I'm just like,
what,
which part?
Like,
what do you want me to say?
Yeah.
And then it's like,
then I'll start saying like,
you know,
maraud or irate or,
you know,
something that's like kind of a deep,
more of a deep cut.
And they're just like,
oh,
oh, okay.
Oh, cool, cool.
It's like,
you don't fucking know who these bands are.
You wanted me to say agnostic front of cromax.
Go away.
I really liked the thing the other day of the kid
tweeting at you, like, just saw Brody King in line at Starbucks and asked him if he liked Silverstein.
And he said, fuck, no.
Yeah, you're mixing up.
Oh, yeah.
He tweeted, he tweeted, but he also asked me as a person he said, he actually, the first
thing he asked me, we're in line for Starbucks.
Show was over.
And he goes, hey, Brody, I love your band.
I was like, thanks, man.
And he's just like, you like Silverstein?
And he had a Silverstein shirt.
He said, sure not.
And he went, fuck, no.
And he goes, do you like any post hardcore?
I was like, fuck, no.
And then he tweeted, just asked Brody King if you like post hardcore.
And he just said, fuck, no.
I'm really like that they get to know the real use.
We were talking about this the other night when Nate and I went to a diner with my friend, Ty.
He doesn't listen.
He only listens to heavy music.
Who? Mr. King?
Mr. King? Oh, yes, he does.
Well, that's not true. Pop music and heavy music.
Pop? Okay, okay.
We've got like an internal playlist going of pop classics.
The gifts that keep on getting it, if you will.
Hit the replay button.
Hit the replay button.
Okay.
And it's like, it's that, I'm basically the same where it's like,
I either listen to pop music, watch Mojo, top 10,
Will Arnett moments
and then hard stuff
you know or or
I mean here's the thing I just don't understand
listening to bullshit
for no reason like
if you're a hardcore man
be hard
or get the fuck out
I don't know
how do you feel about like the
the be harder signs and stuff at shows
I think it's awesome it's crazy
because it's like
it has to be yeah
I just, I always equated to like if I was a kid seeing that, if I was a teenager into God's hate watching wrestling that I liked and someone had a God's hate sign, it's like, that's sick.
It's like the only two things I like together at last.
Yeah.
It's like, it's like Rancid playing Ruby Soho to the Ring the other day was amazing because I hope that that creates a bunch of new punk kids that are going to listen to.
to rancid and find whatever band from there, you know.
Absolutely.
And I hope the same with like, you know, be harder is, is my entrance music.
Hopefully that, you know, some kids find that and then they find Cromags and
agnostic front, maybe, whatever, maybe not either of those bands now.
Oh, your two favorite New Yorkercom.
Yeah.
But, you know, like, and like educate themselves and become hardcore fans.
Do you think, how to phrase this, do you think the people with the sign are God,
God's hates fans. God hates fans.
Come on, man.
God's hate fans who went to the show or the other, like wrestling fans who got into God's.
Probably a little bit of both.
Yeah, definitely a little bit of both.
I've definitely seen kids with, you know, their tattooed and have like a tariff shirt, you know.
Yeah.
Probably, probably little column A, little column B.
But regardless, I feel like we've made a lot of God's hate fans out of people that just like heavy music in general.
Like, they don't know what.
hardcore is, but they're like, oh, this is cool.
Like, sounds like metal.
Oh, me from Tool. That's the cool one.
Yeah.
So Adam Jones, the guitar player of Tool,
goes to PWG all the time.
Oh, really?
Like, I didn't know that, really.
And then one day he just, like, came up to me and
bought a T-shirt and then told me that he was a big
fan of mine. And I was just like,
you're like, bro, I've been a tool my life.
And it's like, literally I thought that you were like a god
when I was like 13.
Like, this is insane.
I think Tool is like the one thing my dad and I can agree on.
Well, like Genesis and Tool are like where our interests collide.
Because like my dad doesn't like heavy music at all.
But Tool was like just weird enough where he was like, it's music.
I mean, these guys are doing something different.
So when I told him like, yeah, the guy from Tool likes God's aid, he was like,
you made it, son.
I think that was the first time he was like,
I think I'm brought to you.
But Adam will post wrestling videos or pictures of me from PWG
and put God's hate in his story.
So it's like, you know.
That's so cool.
I feel like music nerds like worship that man and like are probably like,
I will listen to anything that you recommend.
So it's like pretty crazy to get that out.
I see.
You're a man that goes.
Anything you say goes.
Dude.
I mean, what's it, Danny Carey?
Is that the drummer?
Yeah.
Amazing.
Animal.
Unbelievable.
I got into Tool late in life, let me tell you.
Not as a child at all.
You didn't have Dan Young raising you, brother.
Happy birthday, Dad.
That's what I was my dad's birthday.
Oh, big.
He's not going to hear that.
He never did.
I think the first time,
my dad was like, oh, I think I'm proud of you in a similar way was we went to a Cubs game
and the metro was right across the street from Wrigley.
And at the time, we knew a guy who was doing the talent managing there at the metro.
And I got him to clear us a spot in the metro driveway so that we could park because
other way it's like 80 bucks to park near Wrigley.
And you know how dads are like walking to the stadium from like you could see it from
where we parked.
He was like, this is ridiculous.
This is unbelievable.
We might as well go home.
Yeah, you know, I could definitely relate to you guys.
You know, I think the time that my dad was most proud of me was when I did my entrance at Madison Square Garden.
Yeah, that's the same.
Yeah, that's about the same.
Or, you know, when I debuted on national television.
Yeah, Bogot is at a parking spot.
I got my dad a fucking cake for his birthday and you got, you got, you missed Madison Square.
The important thing, you know, keep your chin up.
You'll get there.
Yeah, I'll get there someday.
One day, too, you'll get a parking spot at the Chicago Metro.
At the Metro.
I guess, you know, should this be the transition into food time?
Let me tell my favorite tour story of all time.
What are you been holding out on me for, bro?
So we did it to, or I did a tour.
So the tour was originally supposed to be God's hate, criminal instinct, King Nine.
It was maybe, it was, I think it was supposed to be the first God's Hate Tour.
Colin decided to get a job at Big Brother and therefore couldn't.
I don't know that I can say the name of the show on this.
It's called.
Schmig Schmiggschmiller.
Large male siblings.
Time stamp.
Older male siblings.
No, I'm just going to leave it in.
All right, cool.
But so Colin can't do the tour and then refuses to allow us to do the tour without him.
Oh.
Which is fair, I guess.
It was like our first thing ever doing it.
It was first one.
First one.
I got you.
I got you.
Come on.
I would have done it without him.
You're sick.
So I ended up driving everyone on this tour.
everyone's in the same van.
They're like eight or nine people.
We play Gilman and, or no, it wasn't Gilman.
It was, what was it, Rocktown or whatever?
Rocks.
Not Rocks, not Rocks, band, University.
Rock band University in Sacramento.
Okay.
Actually, a sick venue.
Great venue. Gone now.
Terrible people that would rent it out and then they would ask for more money for no reason.
Yeah.
Anyways, we're driving back.
Rudder from King 9, the drummer,
decided to book a 6 a.m. flight
out of LAX after a show in Sacramento.
We rented this van,
or they rented the van,
from this piece of shit that is notoriously a piece of shit.
So,
but it was like the only thing available at the time.
Yeah.
I'm driving like a hundred trying to get him to this flight
that's like in four hours and we're five hours away.
He wasn't even.
It's probably not even possible.
But I was on track to make it if we were going to get there.
We're like we are in Santa Maria, which is like two and a half, three hours into the drive.
Tire blows out.
We fucking, I get it over to the side.
We're like, all right, let's get the shit changed and get back on the road.
We look under, there's a spare.
we're trying to find the like the rod thing to like lower it nowhere to be found we call a tow truck
tow truck comes they can't find any type of tool to get the spare down what so we have to get it towed
to the pet boys parking lot and wait to get for them to open to get a new tire so it's all we can do
nine a half yeah they're they're missing the flight yeah uh that's just what it is so we all kind
I remember me and Wildcat roll out our sleeping bags and we slept behind the van.
There's a legendary photo of Gian with a shoe folded in half and he's sleeping on the ground,
no blanket or anything, just laying on a shoe.
I have seen that photo and wondered the context.
So Sun starts to come up and Giann is just like pacing around.
around the van, just doing circle.
And we're like, what is he doing?
And then he starts waking everybody up.
Hey, hey, get in the van.
Get in the van.
Get in the van.
Everybody get in the van.
We're like, what the fuck is happening?
And then he just goes, prepare to defend yourselves.
We're about to be attacked.
And we're just like, what?
And then he goes, the same car has driven past us five times.
We're like, okay, we're like in a neighborhood.
Like, what is?
And he's just, like, delusional and, like, tired and, like, Gian.
And the words that are etched into all of our brains were prepared to defend yourselves.
We're about to be attacked.
As if a, like, fleet of, like, soldiers was about to come down on us.
And then nothing happened.
Then we got the tire change.
I drove the rest of the way.
We parked the van in a parking lot at Carl's Jr.
and left the keys in it and told the guy that they ran the van from them go fuck himself.
Nice.
And then they all got on their flights later that night.
But Gian sleeping on a shoe and then thinking that we were about to be attacked like it was World War III.
The shoe photo is fucking legendary.
I'll have edited it in by now.
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
So I hope you enjoyed it.
Did I tell, you'll have to remind me, Colin.
I can't remember.
And I'm afraid of repeating myself on this.
this fucking show.
Did I tell the story about us playing
This is for You Fest and kids coming to fight the show with bats?
I don't think so.
So we played this fest.
And it was like the first, you remember the picture of James where he's got the mask on,
no tattoo, X-Up, like the picture.
That was from that show.
And so it was like his first outing where people were firstly like,
oh, shit, look at this guy, kind of a thing.
The owner or the guy, the booker for the show, like, runs to our merch table and says, James, I need you outside.
There's guys with bats.
And James was literally like, what?
What the fuck are you talking about?
So I don't remember who was playing.
It was honestly, like, maybe like the mangaloids or something.
Okay.
All of a sudden, the whole show, like, dumps outside to, like, see the guy, the fight.
So, like, everyone, there was a lot of people there.
It's literally three kids on mountain bikes.
with bats.
How do you have a bat on a mountain bike?
Yeah, that seems really difficult.
That is impressive to bounce.
They were like, don't, like, why are you guys in our town?
It was like kind of hard.
Really?
Daytona Beach, yeah.
They were like, what are all you people doing here?
Fuck off.
Get on your fucking mountain bike and get the hell out of here.
Pedal your bat home and try not to fall while you hold it in the other hand.
Well, it's that time where we start talking about what we like to eat because this is the only in life that we like.
You're going to share the sentiment with our last guest, Chase, who's a big Taco Bell guy.
Is that your go-to?
Yeah.
If you're just like, I need something to eat quick.
Taco Bell.
Taco Bell.
It's my go-to.
Over Dell?
Oh, yeah.
That's like simple.
I love Del Taco, don't get me wrong.
Yeah, Colin said the same thing.
But Taco Bell just hits different.
I want Taco Bell and I want Del Taco.
Like, if I want Del Taco, that happens a couple times a year.
Yeah.
You know what?
I think I want Del Taco Bell a couple times a week.
Yeah.
They're like whatever they're putting in there, they're putting the same stuff, they're sprinkling the crack that McDonald's puts in, where you're like, I don't know what it is.
It's MSC.
I need it now.
What's your order?
My order is two cheese to go order to do the crunch, beefy five-layer burrito, and a chicken cassidia.
Very similar, my.
Dude, the chicken cassidia is one of the only things where I eat the sauce that comes on it.
Oh, yeah.
That jalapia ranch sauce?
It's good.
It's a ranch, you piece of shit.
Dude, I'm not even joking that I have to do this.
I like, and if it's too saucy, I can't eat it.
Oh, I have a break.
I had a breakthrough.
When I was a kid,
literally talking about this,
like unlocked something in my brain.
I had a babysitter named Brenda.
Brenda fed me and her kids cottage cheese every single day.
What?
Cottage cheese?
Cottage cheese.
So that's what's heard of.
I'm convinced.
It has to be.
It has to be.
So you were literally assaulted with cottage cheese.
Quite,
I was,
yeah.
There's like a,
there's a sex thing in there that is the reason.
There's no
There's a sex
Cottage cheese
Is code for jizz
And she jizzed all over you
Oh my God
What the fuck do
How do you hear?
What?
He said it
Yeah
Yeah
So I'm sorry
That she jizz on you
And that you can't eat ranch
I love
I mean
You got two sour cream
Sucking motherfuck
In front of you
Right here dude
I used to think
to think sour cream was gross too.
And one time I watched him
like literally suck it out of
the burrito to make me sick.
And I was like, if he's doing
that, Scott, because he did it.
That made me, I had a reaction.
Colin doesn't know shit about food.
Give me a break. Colin thinks he knows shit about
food. And then like tomorrow he'd be like,
hey, I just got into sandwiches.
I did. And you're like, what the
fuck are you talking about? I like him now.
I just like, I just don't care.
Yeah. Dude, we were like an actual
He will never, he will never admit that he did this.
The first time they toured Japan, he came home and told me you'd hate it there.
The food is disgusting.
That's not true.
It is 100% true.
That never happened.
He said, all you, all you can eat is udon.
Hot water and fucking news.
This does not happen.
Emily remembers it as well.
Emily's a 100% happen.
It's a house of lies.
They ain't no black.
They're live.
This never happened.
And I was like, what the fuck?
I love Japanese food.
You're saying I was talking shit about Udon?
No, you said that was the only thing to eat in Japan.
All he does is lies.
I did eat a lot.
And then when we went back, that was the first time he had ever eaten sushi.
That, okay, but this was the highest of the central.
You got to give it.
He hated on it for so long that we bought him sushi.
So I had this plan.
I was like, sushi's really expensive, but I'm going to finally try it.
I had never had.
until I was in Japan.
It hasn't been as good since, by the way, which I feel like is fair.
Yeah.
I was like, all right, I'm going to complain and talk so much shit about sushi that I know how he is
and I know how my brother are.
That they're like, just fucking try it, dickhead, and I'll pay for it.
So I was like, it got to the point where they were like, they were talking about something
like fish with an eye.
Like it was like the eye was still on it, but when you eat it.
And I was like, yeah, I would try it.
Like, I'll try any meat, was my quote.
And they were like, you won't eat sushi.
and I was like, if you're buying,
so these motherfuckers treat me to the full spread.
Like, try one of everything to see what you like.
And I was like, all right, I guess I will.
And it was the best meal my whole life.
I mean, I've never eaten Mexico.
When we toured Mexico, we ate really, really well.
And touring Japan is the most, like the best I've consistently eaten outside of America, obviously.
Like, every night we would have whatever the fuck.
Hey, brother.
Oh, do we eat?
That's like, we book our tours around where we can eat.
It's true.
We've, in 2022, have only played cities with Jets pizza.
That's true.
A radius clause.
Except Los Angeles, yeah.
Except L.A.
So they're going to need to open up in the next month to show, or we're going to have
problems.
We're going to have fucking problem.
Yeah, I love Japanese food.
The only thing, the sushi that they have a lot, though, that I don't like is the,
like fish pasty shit in seaweed
where it's like kind of mushy
I'm not a sea
wait the row the little balls
no not the little balls it's like
it's like pink
it looks like fucking
pattee or spicy tuna
what the fuck you're talking about bro
are you talking about this like I don't think
I don't think you're heads up your ass
I think my head's a lot
what's the best meal you've ever had on tour
or with wrestling
like on the road
I mean
last week I
I ate at a two Michelin Star Restaurant in Vegas.
That was pretty cool.
It's called Picasso and the Belagio.
Very nice.
What did you get?
What?
What did you get?
So they're like prefixed menus.
I'll take you through the menu, actually.
I'll tell you what I got right now.
That's bad.
There was a five-course meal.
We started with Embarico pork, which is the most expensive cured ham.
in the world.
It came with a little piece of bread with some, like, fresh bruchette on it.
Incredible.
Second course was a lobster citrus salad.
Oh, my.
Incredible.
Third course was a seared scallop with this gravy potato mixture.
It was fucking insane.
Mind-blower.
Love a scallet.
Then there was the seared foie gras on lentils.
Oh, love a boy.
Those poor ducks or geese or whatever, but.
Don't care.
Whatever.
It was amazing.
You can get them ethically.
And then further.
You can get ethically raised foie gras.
I don't care.
So they don't have to barf it all up.
Just squeeze it out of it.
Then the main dish was filet mignon with mashed potatoes and a vegetable medley.
That was amazing.
And for dessert, there was a caramel suflay.
Vegetable medley is one of the funniest phrases.
It's like vegetables playing all their hits together.
And this is like in the base of the Blasio, you see the like fountains going off.
There's actual Picasso paintings like in the restaurant.
Like it was pretty awesome.
But, you know, that was because we were in Vegas for like a week.
I've had great meals otherwise, but I think the greatest meal on tour was when Maddie Matheson treated us to dinner.
We talked about that.
That's twice now.
He was big, I was like, I need to try your food.
He's like, well, bring the band, give me like $50 a person, and I'll give you the most insane meal your life.
And it was that.
It was like veal shanks and his mac and cheese and fried chicken and beef tartar.
Dude, the beat, yeah.
This was when he had the parts and labor restaurant, which I don't think is around anymore.
But I'm not sure.
It was an unbelievable experience, especially like while on tour and you're like eating McDonald's every day and then you get treated to like this world renowned chef.
Yeah, like actually.
Cale, kale bailed so that you can go smoke weed.
Well, was it the $50 or the win?
No, band paid for it.
Ban paid for it.
That is.
Forgible.
Let me tell you something about kale.
And, Kail, this is in your defense.
I once asked Kale, death row.
You're getting put to death.
They're going to cut your head off, nuts, hands, feet, all the things.
You get one meal.
He answered in less than one second.
McDonald's chicken nuggets with barbecue sauce.
No.
Just barbecue sauce.
No, just barbecue sauce.
I didn't even finish the sentence.
barbecue sauce.
Like he's sat at home just like,
this man is a barbecue sauce aficionado.
It's crazy.
Like he can rank them.
We always,
we always hit the,
do you have barbecue sauce by chance?
Barbecue by chance is like his,
his like,
if he walks into a,
any kind of establishment whatsoever,
it's,
do you have barbecue sauce by chance?
And it's like the meal is,
like how I feel about ranch probably,
it's based around barbrews.
Times of thousand.
Yeah.
He feels about barbishop.
I really like the idea somebody had about you eating a burger with some mayo on it live on the show.
Oh, that, you, dude, it's fucking delicious.
Look, it has nothing to, this is true, it has nothing to do with how it tastes.
It's white.
That's why you like it.
It's just like the goopiness.
It's not goopy.
It's creamy.
Man, it was pretty.
No.
You pull that fucker with a knife out.
Get the fuck.
Grow up.
I'm not going to go
every time
No, it's just
I don't
I understand the concept
I would just rather
have barbecue sauce
or a hot sauce
Or a hot sauce
Or ketchup or something
Put fucking both
That's the thing
When they're both on there
It's like it's
You know the scene
In Ratatoui where he eats
The fruit
And the and the fucking
The fireworks are going off
In his brain
That's me
With mayo
Mew and barbecue sauce
But what
Is Redatooey?
No, I just like
I don't know
What is it the
Is it Wendy's or is it a whopper that comes with ketchup, mustard, and mayo?
It doesn't come with, I don't think it's mustard.
No mustard.
Catcher in mayo.
Cetchup and mayo.
Catchop mayo.
So that is not initiated.
If you go to McDonald's in Europe or something, they say ketchup, mayo because they're asking you,
do you want ketchup or mayonnaise with this?
And most of the time, as an American, you should go, yeah.
So they charge you for both.
Yep.
And it's like, it's like a euro a packet.
That's ridiculous.
That's something we did not get into, dude.
No, we didn't.
Refills in Europe are a full price of a new store.
Okay.
And as small as this big, mediums is this big, and the large is this big.
I, okay, I don't know if you guys remember, but like when the pandemic started and restaurants, you know, like clothes or even had like limited capacity, there were no refills.
Yeah.
It was a dark time.
I was really afraid that that was going to become like.
Oh.
The new standard.
Yeah, the new standard.
Just know I would have lost my fucking mind.
These are scary times out there.
Scary.
That's what it took from me.
I was that, oh, recalls are ending.
Give me the shot.
Give me the jab.
Yeah.
I'll take the second one, too.
Yeah, Europe is fucking bullshit.
They don't even have the real pop.
You have to pay for bathrooms.
That shit.
And they still smell.
Soda pop.
Soda pop.
Thank you.
He's from another place.
Oh, I know.
I just needed him to correct himself.
He knows not what he does.
And yet you knew what I was talking about.
No, I didn't.
He thought you were talking about lollipop.
Yeah, maybe.
Talking about refills at restaurants and pop and, okay.
Yeah, for retail of your lollipop from BK, brother.
Dude, why do you have to pay for a bathroom that still smells like piss?
That is paying for a bathroom is like, like, I can't think of anything more anti-poverty than that.
I'll give you 50 cents if it's a.
Yeah. If I get the towel service and the guy who tells me I look great and all that,
give me that for 50 cents. But if I just got to pay 50 cents, your bushes are getting
soaked. Soak. But you know what? They have a couple things at European, like European McDonald's
for breakfast. They have the roasty, which is hash brown on an egg McMuffin.
Dude. Why don't we have that? The McMuffin fresh chicken.
yeah yes
it's like a
mcchicken
mcuffin
mcgchicken mcuffin
what are we waiting for
I don't know
I genuinely don't know
I don't know how it's possible
nothing will ever be as good
as Japanese McDonald's
I love do the yokeozuna
Big Mac
it's a delicacy
I don't think we
I don't think we had it
I don't think we had it
it's crazy
we were too concerned
with like
it's always fresh
it's always amazing
five stars
give it three
Three Michelin stars.
Dude, so we had Baker on that whole Southeast Asian tour who was also like a very like
The picky pickiest.
He's a chicken nugget man.
And we were in Malaysia and we just had lots of weird food.
You know, fish sauce is really potent.
And like if you're not really used to it and it's in like they use it like crazy so it can be really potent.
And me and Baker were like, yeah, we're in Malaysia.
Let's go get McDonald's.
Sounds great.
We both got a burger and whatever, whatever.
ground beef isn't halal
so the burgers
were real weird
and it was a very bad
experience and baker was
I mean I don't
what is the is the halal process
like different in manufacturing
I just I
Is it not
Isn't it like kosher
They bless the meat or some shit
There's a lesson in that
It has to do with how
How the animals slaughtered or whatever
But like mixing animals is like a no go
Oh, gotcha.
Baker, you mentioned Baker.
I don't know if we've ever really gone into detail about.
Andrew Baker was like a legendary, prolific merch guy who did merch for twitching tongues and for harm's way eventually.
And he had this bit where whenever we would go off and eat somewhere really good, he would go to McDonald's.
And we would normally come back being like, dude, best meal at tour.
So every time he ate McDonald's, he would go best meal all tour.
Unprovoked, he'd just be like, man.
Best meal all tour.
After eating like four tenders.
He's the one who showed us fucking chick-fil-a breakfast.
Oh, man.
If you can, oh, man.
I'm never awake.
Yeah, you definitely aren't.
I just got to tell the people at home real quick.
I don't know if my coworkers watch this or not.
No, they don't.
No, it's fine.
No, it's fine.
If you're Bo's coworker and you're watching or listening to this, I'm lying.
If not.
Beau, so I'll start working on the show, like, recording or editing this at, like, 8 a.m. my time.
Which is 10 Central.
I work in 8 to 5.
You got to, you got to think about that.
You're probably getting this boy fired.
That's why I'm saying.
PM to a.m.?
Because I ain't never seen you at no 8 a.m., brother.
But you, I'll get a text back at, like,
noon Pacific
which is too central
and you'll notice
on Harlow release days
I really hope it happens this week
is I'll be up at like eight
promoting the episode
and there will be a midday bump
at about two central
when Bo posts it
and I'll simply say good morning
Bo yeah my sleep has gotten real
fucked up lately I stay up until four or five
every night
what do you do
just chatting online
No, I just like
You checking your sites?
Yeah
Just refreshing Twitter
Checking my sites and I'm watching my stories
Yeah, I just like it
I don't know, I like being up late
Circling back almost completely
A Casey and Nick story about
Not knowing when we were leaving or doing whatever
We
We had to drive overnight to
to Los Angeles, actually, for the Territory.
And we told James, message everybody, said,
yo, get to the space at around eight,
you know, because everyone had to get off work and blah, blah, blah,
and, like, we'll load up and start the drive.
And about 9 a.m., there was a text that went to the group chat from Nick or Casey,
and they were like, hey, where are you guys?
And they were 12 hours early.
So they left Milwaukee at 6 in the morning.
My God.
Got to the practice space when everyone's working and they can't go anywhere or do anything.
Classic.
Well, that's why I would take that any day over.
Yeah.
Over.
Are we practicing?
Oh, we're leaving?
Oh, we're driving 20 hours?
Okay.
Gotte hasn't done a fest, like a one-off fest over in Europe?
No, we've never been there.
We're supposed to go to outbreak, but canceled.
I thought, I thought, that's why I asked.
We did.
I think we, I mean, we formally.
canceled a couple weeks ago. I don't know if we've like
put it out there but like
first of all he you know
he's got a he's a busy man
he's got a show that weekend
and also
this is a PSA
to any band
any person that likes music
that is going to see live music
this summer
whoever whatever band is flying
to play near you paid
of trillion dollars to get there
flights right now
are minimum like $1,000 a person
getting anywhere.
So buy a shirt,
say thank you,
go to the show.
Also,
you know,
like you don't owe them shit.
But at the same time,
if you want them to do it again,
maybe go see them or something.
But like,
yeah,
like us flying to
outbreak and whatever shows
we were going to do that
was like probably 10.
It would cost double or triple
what we would make.
So it just makes no sense.
Yeah.
It's crazy. I mean, I think we're probably in the era of like $35 shirts.
You know, I mean, I, we're pioneers of, I hope so.
No, I know. I know. No, I know. You guys were one of the first groups who said the age of the $20 shirt. It's upon us.
Oh, yeah.
Switching times was in the age of the $15. Yeah. People were mad.
From 12 to 15. I don't remember.
What?
Oh, dude, this is incredible.
This, I actually meant to talk about this.
This shirt is from early 90s.
I was browsing Craigslist one day, like over 10 years ago for metal shirts, you know, whatever.
Found a guy who was selling this for $7, which is what he paid for it.
Wow.
When he saw Metallica.
So I went and met the guy, like immediately the same day.
And I had a 10 on me.
And I was like, here you go, man, thanks.
And he was like, oh, you give me too much.
I was like, yeah, it's $3.
He's like, no, man.
Us metalheads got to stick to.
together, hold on. Went and got changed.
No fucking way. I'm my mother.
And now that shirt's like $300.
Yeah. Dude, they ain't sticking anywhere.
Now, they ain't sticking together a shit.
It's all of the market
is fucked, man. If you want an old shirt,
you got to pull out a loan.
Paint out the wazoo.
Straight up, dude. You got to go through granny's old pig.
Kardashians. You got to cash them birthday
checks that she's been sending you a couple times a year
by accident.
Dude, the worst, the worst hardcore bands
has the most expensive t-shirts for no reason,
just because it's old.
Oh.
Yeah, just because it's old.
For sure.
I mean, yeah.
I think one of the hardest laughs of my life was,
and no dis to Lagwagon, I don't know who you are.
I don't know if you personally.
But seeing a Lagwagon shirt sell for $200 was like,
I feel like I cried a lot.
Like, that's where we are.
I have several Metallica shirts that are several hundred dollars on eBay that I paid
double digits for like 35 bucks for
dude that first marauder shirt i have with the with the red circle
yeah when i was 15 years old i paid
40 dollars for that and motherfuckers were mad at me
because it was too much yeah they're like who do you think you are
this fucking kid paying 40 dollars
if you guys ever want to see some ridiculous price shit look at old wrestling
t-shirts ah yeah i have a i have an undertaker shirt that i spent
$7 on probably 15 years ago.
It is worth $1,000 now.
Yeah.
We knew a guy from Thailand named Mr. Gap, and he runs a thing called Stash
Pages, and he'll upload.
There's another guy.
He's either from Singapore or Thailand.
It's like chubby vintage or something like that.
Oh, that's Mr. Gap.
Okay.
That's Mr. Gap.
He's the man.
Yeah, he's fucking awesome.
And he has crazy inventory.
But yeah, like, it'll be Undertaker shirts for like many hundreds of dollars.
Yeah.
God damn.
Gotta start bootlegging them sons of bitches.
Well,
get your money.
We're at an hour 15.
This is a lovely time with my man, Brody King.
Thanks for coming by my house to do it.
What do you got coming up?
This is going to come out in a week, so are you doing any,
any, like, smaller wrestling things or any?
I don't know.
Okay, cool.
Catch me on TVS 13.
T Weekly.
Every Wednesday, every Friday, this man's on television.
For now, he's in my office.
He's got a meet and greet him coming up.
A couple minutes, I'm going to get him out of here.
I'm going to wheel him on over there.
Meet some greets.
I think I'm going to get some Taco Bell.
Good call.
Nice.
Nice.
Good place to end it.
Brody will be back on.
We barely scratched the surface of this.
So thank you guys so much for joining us.
We will see you next week.
Bye.
Bye.
