HardLore - Chase Mason is a Sexy Guy

Episode Date: June 1, 2022

Colin and Bo talk to death metal heartthrob and Gatecreeper frontman Chase Mason about Gatecreeper's early days of touring, Taco Bell, celebrating nearly 10 years of sobriety, and much more.   HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER   For sponsorship opportunities, email us! [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome. It's our lore time. What's up, Bo? Hey, what's up, man? Look at our guest today. Who we got? We have Death Metal's most eligible, sexiest people magazine ranked number one eligible bachelor. Chase Mason.

What up? How's it going, buddy? Good. How are you? Good, man. Thanks for being on the show. I like your mood lighting. It's very moody.

It's very cozy. I need to have a great. I like what you got Well yours is like Indicative of what's it's like What's in your mind is on it I know that you're sick Live from my office yeah Exactly is that I know there's some pain

You see my Xerox machine right here? Oh is that the Xerox machine That's it Explain that People might not know It's a huge Outdated piece of equipment It's a secret sauce

It's a secret sauce that's been responsible For like lots of shit Including Harmsway designs It's true. You got one cooking for me right now, right? That's true. Look at that. You heard it here.

Is that the custom behind you that you got for your birthday? Yeah, I bought it for myself. Yeah. I guess it's kind of a, yeah, it is. You got it for Chase. I meant it literally. Yeah. Love that.

Well, you know, as you may know, the subject of this show is stories of tour. And I figured maybe I'd set it off with just I'm sure we I think you and I had met before that little excursion that we did together But that was where it was like Like I felt like I had found just kindred spirits In your entire band like I like Eric The Dark Cowboy I found out was like

Like a missing part of my essence Yeah And I think he and I recognized that Yeah It was apparent But the tour was Nails the toxic holocaust and GateCrieper. Yeah. And I, what was that?

Like halfway that I met up with you guys or something? Yeah. So we did it like, we did, we started on the East Coast. And then we flew in the middle of the tour. Actually, Bo, you played the show at Chicago. Yeah. And then after that, yeah, after that show, right after the Chicago show, we flew from Seattle. and Colin had the gear and the van.

Did you drive from Van Nuys? I did the drove. I did the drive. Let me tell you, man. It sounds awful, but I had like a, that was like the most peaceful 48 hours in my entire life, I feel like. It's scary because like, two days. Oh, it's like, I like, I took like a full.

I like stayed at a hotel and got a late checkout and did all the whole thing. and pulled up at like 6.01 p.m. But man, like, when people go on road trips, like we're traveling, guys. So I see recreational travel and I get, like, physically sick. I'm like, how are you doing that? You're driving for fun. But I kind of got it after that.

Just driving all your fucking gear. I was not playing on the tour at all. I was just hanging out. It's the juxtaposition of doing whatever the fuck you want versus being on a load-in schedule or whatever. Yeah. You know, I've done a couple road trips, and they're fucking, they're fun. Dude, in 2018, twice in one year, James and I drove from Chicago to L.A.

That's a terrible drive. Twice in, like, four months because a warp tour, and then because of the terror tour started. Once, driving from Chicago to L.A. once, was the sickest. This is a whole can of worms. I don't know if we are even ready to go there. Yeah, let's open it, because I'm sure it's all relevant. We'll get to the Holocaust and Nails tour. But this, this was, this is easily top three, like, actual worst days of my entire life.

Beautiful. Here, let me hit this. So, this is the end of the mission quest to Metal Fest tour, which was Power Trip, Alpha and Omega expire, twitching tongues, and antagonist AD. Those Rick. Yeah, those fucking flip-flop-plot-worn Cuts. And I got like bronchitis

like day two and it just stuck with me till the end but I thought it was gas. It was like gastral bronchitis which ended up So I have this aversion to dairy Like ice cream and stuff While I'm singing.

Do you have that chase? Yeah, same way. Yeah. You do? Like, oh, I mean, I have a dairy thing where it makes my throat kind of like swell up a little bit. Oh, dude. And then is your, my voice is gone. I'm incapable of making a single note if I like, if I have a sip of a milkshake, game over.

Okay. But this, this particular instance, the bronchitis turned into like a severe throat infection because of a, an amazing Chick-fil-A milkshake. I do it all over there for that shake. Was it the, the, the orientalus? Was it the, the Oreo one? No, it's the plain vanilla. You can't go wrong.

I'm with you. I'm with you. The Chick-fil-A vanilla shake is art. I said Chick-fil-A last night. You did? Yeah. What did you get? I got a solid.

That is not what I wanted. Was it like the Cobb salad where they throw a chicken? Yeah, it has like chicken nuggets on. That's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. That, to me, that's desperate. To me, I'm like, I guess I'll get the cop, you know. But if, but normally,

I'll do the deluxe, like a 12-count nugget, large fry. Small shake, got to make up, you know, got to wash the calories somewhere. Did I get Dieter, Pepper, there every time, because it's one of the only places that always has it. They got a good fountain there. They got a good fountain. They know when them syrups are out. We didn't even talk about that. All right.

We didn't, dude. Wingstop? Yeah. As much as I love it, I would die for it. The stirrups are empty. Yeah, it's always weird. But anyway, we'll get back to Wingstop. And I drink this shake, and then the plan is

Nail starts the tour right then, and Tushing Tunges drives home. Gotcha. I am the most sick I've ever been on the front bench, and for the next, what is that, 32 hours or something? Yeah, yeah. I shit my pants every 30 minutes. minutes for 32 hours.

Like actually shit your pants or just like as it. No, it was like, I hit. I touched cotton every 30 minutes for 32 hours. So what did you do? Like what did you do after the third time? I was paralyzed. I was legit like just just like and I couldn't sleep the whole time. I was I was in and out of sleep every every time a song started and ended.

I would wake up. So you're telling me that you just shitted yourself for 30 hours? I got up a couple times and watched. But like there was only so much I could do in that state. And like this is a great one where Anthony Gonzalez, who now plays in God's Hate and some other bands, this was his first time. I'm sorry, Anthony, to do this to you.

But I got to get it out there. Anthony is, it's his term to drive and he's filling up the gas tank. So Leo hands him a $100 bill to go do it. Anthony, I'm so sorry. I love you. Anthony goes in, gives them the $100 and says, like, can I get this on this tank? Comes back, fills the tank. It uses the whole $100 bill.

And then he's like, I got to go back in and get the change. And even me in my state of mania is like, where everybody's confused. and he says, I don't know, I've never put in more than like 20 bucks. I don't know how this works. And even in my like dead state was just like, God damn it. But yeah, I ate a banana and drank two Gatorades for 32 hours

and shit myself every 30 minutes. But toxic Holocaust, nails, and gate creeper. Yeah, sorry, we got to. Okay, so you, when, when Consta, the Holocaust that's part of a bit that's from that tour which stems from the flight pre when we went to meet up with Colin it was the Chicago airport it was like we went from the show to the airport and we had like an early morning flight and we're so we're sitting there like wait you know sleeping at the airport or whatever us and toxic Holocaust and they were a little bit ahead of us when we

went to go to the security and we're going through the security and guy, this guy that's working there, he goes, are y'all with the Holocaust? Oh my God. And we were like, yeah. You were technically with the Holocaust. But man, that could mean a lot

to a lot of different people. Did they headline that tour? No, no. Nails did. And yeah, you talked about finding Kidrid spirits. I remember like, It was very apparent.

I remember there was a drive. It felt like it was right after you picked us up, but it might have been that long drive from, like, Portland to Oakland. But I remember we were, like, driving overnight. I remember it was a post-show, like nighttime drive. And you and Eric was up front, you were driving. And it was just like you guys were riffing off of each other.

Like, and it was like, I remember being like, Eric has, because I had been with Eric for many tours, I was like, Eric has met his match. Yeah. You know, like, this is like, yeah. Like he was, he was showing me, what's that one song that believe only one? Oh my God. Don't like anyone live alone.

We love that song. Hey. What the hell do you think of yourself? I have never heard that. And so Eric showed me that and like I showed him Scooter. Yeah. Jam and legend. The reasons that a lot of them speak the language at all was Scooter.

That was a big night for me in her. think he was awake the whole time. Yeah. I remember it was a night time. It was a night drive and you guys were up there and it was just like, wow, there's magic happening up in the front. Dude, there was magic in the air from Portland to Oakland. And I'm like, I'll fall asleep if another person's driving.

So he had no obligation to do that and I wouldn't have been offended. Yeah. Shout out Eric. Here, here's a question about touring. You guys, do you drive your van when you're when you're touring? Is it a fully shared thing? Are you guys drivers? It's mostly James during the day, and me at night, I like doing the overnights.

I tend to fall asleep when it's sunny. Like there's something about that 2 o'clock we had lunch time where I'm fucking out. So Taylor is the guy. Yeah, Taylor is your guy for sure. He's the wheelman. There's a few. Like Nick Jet, he's the wheelman. He's a maniac.

He's a maniac. Eric is your wheelman. He's in it. I don't drive. I've never driven our van on tour. Really? Wow. Dude, Chris Mills.

Chris Mills has gotten into three accidents on tour. He drives. Is he driven three times? No, he's driven more than that, to be fair to him. But one time was on our way to meet up with you guys where he rerended someone in Houston, meet up with twitching tongues. On the highway, just like, and they kept driving.

One time on a very first tour in Philadelphia, he sideswiped a car. He didn't want to drive and he was in. We were in his girlfriend's father's van. And he just like, you know, Philly's really tight. Yeah. And then it was immediately like, okay, well, someone else has to drive. And then I just picture him being like, I didn't even want to drive.

Yeah. I didn't want to do this. And then one time in DC, he like clipped a bus. I've never done that once, little than three times. My driving is like, it's partly because I don't want to. it, but mostly because nobody else wants me to drive. I didn't get my driver's license until right before we started the van. I didn't get my driver's license until I was 27.

Oh, really? Wow. So is public transportation that good in Arizona? No, it's terrible. I was just getting from A to B. I was just a skater. When we started the van, I was taking the bus to my call center job. Holy fuck, dude.

I've been there, buddy. Same. Like, I took the bus, the, like, orange line here. to school every day and like as a 30 year old I look at the bus I just I feel sick yeah I mean as same here

as as a 30 year old I also feel shitty about not I haven't had a car since I was 18 but I live in a place where you you don't really need you don't need one here yeah you don't need one it's nice to have because of the train trains and buses and scooters and shared bikes there's nothing taboo about a Chicago

bus. Not the CTA, no. What there is taboo about is like a Pace bus. Okay. Which those exist elsewhere. Those are the like. Every bus. You get on it.

TLC is yelling out their window like you fucking scrub. Yeah. No. Not at all here. I don't know. So Eric's the wheelman. Yeah. He's the guy that we,

you have to like, we have to physically pull him out, which is not easy. but he's like I'm driving this is what I'm doing like we have to physically who doesn't want him to drive nobody but it's like hey you've been driving like you need to take a break you know taking that for a second you know but he's great he's he's he's great at his job so and he keeps spirit at the same time he could he's like he's like he takes pride in being what he calls like an ice road trucker you know it's part of his you know it's part of his persona I really like doing the like okay shows over And we're loaded out. It's 11. We're settled. Everything's good to go.

We have a hotel like three or four hours away. Love that. That's, so those are the drives that I do predominantly. Are those three or four hour? It's 2 a.m. Everyone else is like a sleep. But then that means that like I'm jumping in that shower. I'm doing a fucking cannonball into this year.

Because like, yeah, I mean, that's the rule. Exactly. That's the law. Driver shower law. We're not animals. We abide. by the law. Yeah.

Not a barbarian. Yeah, exactly. So, uh, you're, you're, band dad, right, Chase? Yeah. You're the main, main man.

You're the Jasta? Yeah. You're the Jasta? Yeah. Good for you, man. Every band has a band dad where everyone else has like utility. Yeah.

I suppose with you guys, with Twitching Tongues, it was kind of you and Taylor. Yeah, it's mostly Taylor. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Because, like,

I, I, I, we've, we've, touring when I was 18, 19. So it was like, he had no choice but to be dad. And he was touring with nails a lot. Yeah. So he was with Todd a lot who with Todd was dad there. Right.

And Todd rubbed off on Taylor a lot in those, those little ways. Yeah. You got to have a Josta or things fall apart. Yeah, exactly. I think that whether it's when you're not on the road, just like normal, band business there always has to be like a point man you know and i think that when you start out like everybody just kind of it just how the how the cards just lay out it's just everybody kind of assumes a role you know whether it's like eric you know it was never like hey we're going

our first door eric you're going to do all the driving you know it's this it's just everybody kind of settles into it and especially when you don't have any crew it's just your own people It's like, all right, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. Yeah. You figure out your role pretty quickly. What's the, so there's a new, a relatively new whole gate creeper lineup aside from you, Eric and the drummer, right? Yeah.

So the lineup, me, it started. The band started is just me, Eric, and Matt. Oh, okay. So like the first recordings is just the three of us. So we've had, you know, there's another guitar player and a bass player. So those, those roles have, have shaped. shifted a little bit or just who's playing. But yeah, we have two.

Now it's the three of us, the older guys, and now we have a guitar player and a bass player that are like almost 10 years younger than us. What's your bass player's name again? It's Alex. Alex. I met him the other night and we hit it off. Yeah.

He's a good kid. And then Israel on guitar. Yeah. He rocks. He's a great guy. Yeah. So have you, do you feel like this is the like,

this is the dynamic? personified lineup of Gay Kriper now? Yeah, I think it's good. I think, like, I mean, we've been touring a lot, and it's like everybody, I'm 30, I just turned 35. So, I, dude, I thought, I thought I was much older than you. No, I'm 35.

Wow. And me, Eric, and Matt are all kind of about the same age. So I think it's been good for the band to bring in some, like, younger kids that are, like, they're excited to be touring because it's easy. for anybody when you're touring to get burnt out and be jaded, but it's like cool to bring people in that they're like excited to tour, you know? And it's like, that's the secret. We went through the same, Harmsway had a revolving door for fucking ever for like eight years.

You know, after the original guys quit, it was literally, I was, we have a hidden YouTube video of all of our songs tabbed out, you know, up to a point so that I could just send it to people because I was so sick. Send it to me. teaching people songs. But once Nick and Casey joined, it was like, oh, here, like, there's the unit. And again, Nick became like the other guy, writing-wise. Writing-wise, yeah, yeah.

Nick's brain works at a rate. Colin, I feel like you probably have a percentage of it musically. Chase, you probably do too, actually, where it's just like always kind of like, well, what if we did this? Like, everything, and, you know, he's just always, dude, he has the ability Okay, there's a song on Post-Human

called Dead Space, right? It's the last song in the record. We, Nick has the ability to take any song and turn it like major, like into a pop punk song, right? So instead of O-1, chugging on one, he does O and then like a G,

you know, like to make it kind of major, right? He made a song, we made James leave to go shopping when we were at the studio, and he tracked all the guitars and bass for a safe space, and it's like a pop punk version of Dead Space? It's unbelievable. You should release it.

Yeah, we will when we inevitably turn into, like, a pop punk band or whatever. But just, you know, we all, our bread and butter is eventually going to be reissues and shit, man. I got one coming this year. We'll see. All my,

all the Gaker Garage Band demos. Yeah, Those will go quad platinum. Let me ask you something, Chase. Well, first, that tour was, I think that was where GED Rifts was coined. Was it not? I had that for a long time. Oh, nice.

You did? Yeah. Okay. But I think it started to spread. What else was there was a barbecue sauce rifts? Barbecue metal. Barbecue metal. Yeah.

Which I can't take credit. I can't take credit for a barbecue metal. That's something probably heard from somebody else. but GED Riffs was my own. I like that. Okay. That's a good one. Good stuff.

I want my G.E. What about, what about, if I were to explain a band as bald guy metal, like shaved head metal, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. I, I love, I love making up genres. Like, I love making up genres that, like, like, you can say. Yeah. Rotten sound is a band with dudes who all have shaved heads.

Like, there's no long hair. The amount of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, Like spin-off names I've made is staggering. Pointless HC is probably my favorite one. Playlist HC. That's a big one for me. Dude, Roadside Records.

We can't really talk about it, but, you know. Roadside is a secret organization. I shouldn't have even mentioned it. It's like the men in black, dude. I got to fucking neuralize anybody who listens to this now. All right, Chase, where's the worst place you've ever slept on tour? It's a tough question off the bat. I would just realize, like, these are the things that we need to ask people,

because this is what will progenate stories. You know what I mean? Like, it's great word. Thank you. $10 for a while. It's going immensely. I feel like I've dodged whenever there's like the, oh, this is going to fucking suck to sleep in this place that somebody's offered up. I think I've dodged it by being the person that's being like, all right, I'm going to go sleep in the van.

Yeah. It's a move. so I classic moves so nowhere you've only stayed in dope places no I mean a story that comes to mind

here's a this spawns a story in Denver there is some sort of I don't know how much of an organization more than just a person or maybe two people

that they feed bands I don't know if you've ever got hit by this organization But the first time that we encountered it, we were on tour with Skeleton, which... Chipotle? No. It was our first, like, package tour, you know? It was Skeleton, which, Iron Reagan, Oathbreaker, and us.

Oh, yeah. It was in 2016. Did that play Chicago? Maybe. I think we dropped off on part of the tour. Oathreaker stayed in this apartment around that time. I think it was that tour because it sounds familiar. Sorry, go ahead.

It might have been. but yeah it was it was fall of 2016 our rec sonora and deprivation like our first full length came out when it was on that tour but anyway we're in we're in Denver it was our first package tour and this we were a skeleton which the headliner and this all this food got brought to them it was like homemade sort of stuff I don't know like hummus I think it might have been vegan maybe all at least vegetarian um so we're like oh cool this is a thing that happens people just bring because we hadn't even been to europe yet so this is like Like us, this is like, I was going to say, this sounds like a slice of Europe. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But in. So we hadn't been to Europe yet. So we were just like, oh, this is the first time that someone's, there's like all this food for us at the show.

So we're like, that's cool. And then when we were touring again, it was when the next year, we were touring with Cannibal Corpse and Power Tour. It was like a year later, it was after that Nails tour. And it was like, you know, a big tour for us. And the people who did the Denver food thing, they hit us up and were in the show in Denver was the day before Thanksgiving. There was a day off in Omaha. And so we went to Omaha and then the day after was in Chicago. So it was they hit us up like, hey, you know, there's a day off and there's Thanksgiving.

Like we want to make you food and you can stay at our place. And we were like, okay, sure. And they're like, yeah, I was like, okay, we have five. five or six people and they're like yeah we got plenty of room. They come into the show. Of course, there's an issue of like the guest list. They're not on the list when they are and I have to go. And so it's this thing just getting them into the show.

Yeah. We finally get back to their house after. And what was, uh, what was described as like having plenty of room was pretty much like a studio apartment where we had room to maybe all lay coffin style side by side. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. And I was just like, no, this ain't it. So I ended up leaving, but we all just had like a weird experience that this, you know.

The just you, you just, I left. Maybe there was one other person, but I, I bailed, you know. What if the band was the meal and you left them all this? I think it was. That was kind of the vibe. Like, we just got like a weird. We got bait and switch. Sorry if the floor is hot.

And we definitely got bait and switch. and it's one of those things on tour where it's like you don't want to be ungrateful. Someone's opening up their home to you or whatever. But I feel like we were led there under false pretenses. It's also, dude, it's also the thing that like people genuinely want to help. Yeah. And they genuinely want to be like, yeah, you could stay.

Of course, you know. But they don't necessarily consider, oh, these people have been on tour for three weeks and their bodies are broken and sleeping on hardwood. It's not ideal. Yeah. You got, you got flat-fished. Yeah. Well, okay.

So here, the story goes further, other than it just being like, you know, wasn't, as it was false advertising. While we were there, the person kept talking about, you know, I got this band, and I also got this band. There, it was like they had a list of, like, a hit list. Like a collection. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the collector.

Like to make food for or to stay there? I think both. So they were like, we got this band before, we got this. And I was like, yeah, it was like a collection. And so we started referring it as the collector. And then recently this person sent both me and Eric like, hey, just so you know, you guys were numbered this. And they sent like a spreadsheet that they had of all the different bands. And they were numbered.

They're like, just so you know, you're number 63 or whatever. And we were like, holy shit. It's the collector. You've got to see the full collection. Yeah. That's a huge honor. We did. One time,

it was on there. At least our snippet. I don't know. I'd have to look it up. I think we just got like a portion of it, which showed where we stood in the collection. But, yeah, it was,

it's a very weird. It's, I mean, I don't mind being objectified. I know. I was going to say, like you've been collected now. Yeah.

Yeah. And I see you get objectified every day on it. You see. this? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, do you like, let me, let me ask you this in the, in the, the way that will embarrass you the least boss. Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Like, do you know, you're like a sexy guy? I mean, based on what you're talking about. I mean, that's the least embarrassing way. Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, how else do I phrase this? Does it feel good? Yeah, it feels,

That feels great. Okay. Yeah. There you go. There you go. You don't mind it. There's the episode title. I've had people, uh,

or manager or whoever else try to like motivate, like, be like, hey, you just got to lean into that. You know, like that's, you should, you should lean into it. I'm like, sure. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's, I think that's perfectly humble and good of you. But you should absolutely.

I mean, you did like modeling shit, right? Yeah, kind of. Kind of. Yeah. I mean. One time we were staying in Buffalo. Uh-oh. And we're putting down our sleeping bags.

Actually, it was in New York for sure. I'm not sure where it was. And we were putting down our sleeping bags and stuff. And I looked at the window. And in between the blinds was a GoPro recording. Oh. Like where we were going to sleep. On.

Yeah. Oh, on. Red light. Did you say something? I covered it with a shirt. that's all we needed a place what if there was another angle

there may have been we need to play if you have a GoPro you have two GoPro listen there were other reasons to stay someone yeah you know

it was someone yeah so there were other so a sexy girl was filming it to be honest with you I don't know but it was a weird house full of like

you know people who collect like bones like here's a bat in a thing It's his bones, like that kind of house. Well, I mean, to be fair, I'll play the devil's advocate here. Yeah, yeah. I have a camera inside my house that I have for my dog.

I do too. Yeah, I did have been something like that, or do you think it was nefarious that they were spying on you? The place where we were in the house, you wouldn't monitor. And it was a GoPro in like 2015. Was it plugged into power? No. That's, come on.

It was legitimately set up to film us going to bed. That was like, 100%. To be temporary. Yeah. I'll pick it up in the morning. All of us were like, hey, and I literally just covered it. Well, to be fair, like. I'm in their house.

They could do it. They're making sure you aren't stealing anything. Yeah. Totally. You look untrust. Yeah. I mean, I've been told that. Colin, do you have a worst place you've slept at?

there's there's there was a few that came to mind last time we we talked about something like this but like there was this like rebel squat in germany that i felt like we had to get like blindfolded to go inside and then once we were in there everybody was like really nice but it was definitely like a squat like 200 people who like weren't supposed to be there yeah and and for american guys Baby-faced. Mine is also in Germany. We played a fest in Leipzig with, it was like Rude Awakening played and maybe even like Zabolble play. Like it was like a, you know, a German, like literal German like beat down fest.

So it was like I would have played many of those. Yeah, one of those. But then there were a couple American headliners. And we got there at, you know, noon or 11 or whatever. And we didn't play until 11 at night. There were no trains. The only thing within walking distance was a fucking gas station. One of those.

And they had a room for bands to sleep in and I opened it. And it literally looked like what a, like where fucking Johnny Depp goes in, uh, whatever that Jack the Ripper movie was where it's like a actual time. No, the other one. The, the real. Oh, Sleepy Hollow. But it looks like a fucking opium dead. Like there was just people in there coughing, laying on brown mattresses. with like rays of light coming in from the uncovered windows.

And I was just like, that's not going to be for me. So I went, it was like in a park district kind of building, you know, like a youth center. And I found like a quiet hallway and I just laid down in the hallway. And I woke up to two German girls like an hour later being like, hello, all this good. Like they were like concerned that I wasn't well. Really? They were legit like, hey, because I was just. They're well.

other room? Yeah, yeah, exactly, right? On the brown mattress with the fucking, they got a plague in there. 90 degrees in there. Here's a question, bounce off that. Has there ever been a situation

where you're like, say someone's like, hey, you can come stay in the house and you have very low expectations, but then you get there and it has exceeded all of your wildest dreams. Absolutely. I love that.

The karate dojo in Europe, have you guys stayed there? Oh, yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, with the basement with all the shit in it. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Unreal.

It just has like a fucking dojo in the basement. And then these, like the classic Eurobunk style bedroom things. Yeah. Great Wi-Fi. And then just for some reason, like a full-on, like karate gym at the bottom floor with the guy, like the man, like both mannequin and everything. You could whoop his ass and then have a great shower and go to sleep. Have you guys been? Have you guys been in Russia? You guys played in Russia?

Never. Probably never will now. Yeah, probably never will. Really fucking wish we could have. But yeah. Weirdly enough, our first European tour, one of the first shows on our European tour was in Russia. We flew to Finland, which was our first European tour. First show was in Finland. We flew to Finland.

We got to experience our promoter's friend who we were staying with just get nation. all of a sudden and be like, it's time to sauna. You know, like, we're sitting there, like, all, like, doing the thing. We're, we're jet lagged, but we're, like, hovering over this dude's computer. We're taking turns playing music off of, like, YouTube on his computer. And then the dude just gets naked, and he, but he's still chilling there. And he's, like, reaching over us, like, on his computer with, like, his, like, big flopping around in our faces. Dude, we went to us real quick.

We went to a sauna when we were in Helsinki. And we were all wearing swim trunks. And an old naked guy in the sauna was, like, This is not right. This is not right. And, like, got out and went and snitched on us. That you aren't naked? Like, you have to be naked, motherfucker.

Let me see. Because it's like a, it's just like a thing there where it's like, we're all, we're all the same. Yeah. But it's like. I just, I disagree. You see this passport, motherfucker? Like, I am not the same. I don't want this, but whatever.

But yeah, he's. I see what you're packing, man. I'm not the same for you. Yeah, he snitched on us. You, Chase, you mentioned playing YouTube videos on some guy's computer. Yeah. Is there, is there, like, a better thing to do ever with your voice? The history of mankind.

It's not. Just look, just finding stuff online. Think about the first. Have you seen this one? Have you seen this one? Yeah, yeah. Think about the first time you, you dove into the leprechaun video. Dude, that's still.

Whistle tips? Whistle tips. That tells everybody. Oh my God. It's endless. This here is a leprechaun flute. A magical lepricorn flute. For my generation to generation, dude.

From my great-grandfather, who was Irish. There's younger people that I've, you know, done that sort of, let me play these. And there's so many, there's some, like, the younger kids have never seen, like, unforgivable. They've had some whistle tips. They never seen them. like unforgivable? I mean, I don't know. I feel like that was like one of the first viral videos.

Viral things. You know, that was even... The Giff of the dancing baby was like, yo, pictures moves. Peanut butter jelly time. Peanut butter jelly time was huge. With a baseball bat. End of the world.

You remember that one? Uh-uh. Come on. The fires and missiles. I think so. You don't remember that one? Yeah. Well, that must have been before your time.

That's a band-nized thing, brother. And then, uh, Gonads and Strife. You guys remember that one? No. Oh my God. This is like pre- YouTube. This is e-bombs world.

Yeah. Funny junk.com. Dude, how about the scissors throwing? He's like, I have to go to the fucking hospital now. And he's got a pair of scissors sticking in his arm. I never saw that. Oh, my God. How about, listen, this is one we'll all agree on.

Yeah. This fridge will get you many women. Nope. Oh, my God. What about, what about the? The sword, the katana. Oh! Tip just got the O'Dell.

That one's sad. I feel like here's the disconnect. At that time, you had to really find these things. And maybe all your friends knew about it, but there wasn't the way to share it with everybody else. So it's like it was much more reasonable. You had to be next to a friend watching it.

Dude, I can't believe you guys haven't seen this. Dude, the G.I. Joe videos? Those are classic. I mean, we were obsessively. watching those. Same. Happy. Do you guys remember the first thing

you ever YouTube? Probably like leg break. You sick, fuck. I love the leg break. I mean, it might have been like an unforgivable or something like that.

I don't remember. I remember someone else showing me YouTube and I was like, what is this? Yeah, dude. I vividly remember having read about the, there's the American Hardcore

book. And I remember reading about fear playing Saturday Night Live on Halloween. And all the guys like, I vividly remember being like, I wonder if this exists when my So you typed that you were like, W-W-W-W-D-B-E. Yeah. I do, it wasn't YouTube, but I do have a vivid memory. I have a vivid memory of me and my friends probably in seventh grade crowded around a computer

watching the Pamela Anderson, Tommy Lee home video. That was like, there's like three generations now where that was like a formative thing in their life. Yeah, but the formative thing for our generation was definitely Starship Troopers.

Yeah, I, yeah, but I saw stripes before I saw. I saw stripes at home before Starship Troopers. It was like, it was like boobs were old news to me. And then I, and like, Caddyshack has been my favorite movie since I was like three. And that has that movie is crazy. You're talking specifically about like boobs in a movie? Yeah.

I mean, I'm a little bit older. Titanic was the one. Oh, dude. My parents like wouldn't let me see it because there's two boob scenes in it. And that was a big thing, you know? Legendary. First date ever, fourth grade, Melissa Thornton held her hand for three hours. How sweaty was your hand?

She's sweating, dude. Just, oh. Were you wrinkled after that one or what? That was pruning, dude. Yeah, I vividly remember it. I think my mom was sitting in the back of the theater. Just looking at running. You little bastard.

Yeah, I think. I don't know. That's real uncomfortable. Chase, yeah. I don't know how to bring this up. How long have you been clean now? Almost 10 years. Let's celebrate that.

Yeah, yeah. Almost 10 years. Good, good job. Coming up on 10. Yeah. Was there ever a time in your touring life where you weren't? No. So both of you guys are straight-age, yeah?

Yeah, yeah. Okay. So I've played in bands since I was like in junior high since I was seventh grade or something. But I played in bands from when I was from 18 or whatever. I played in local bands. We were local support on lots of shows. But we never played out of the state. and I started Gate Creeper

pretty much right when I got out of rehab. So it was like I started the band right when I had gotten sober. So I had never toured before or anything until I've only done it when I've been sober. That's awesome. That's probably a really good

like a positive reinforcement. Yeah. Of like I'm not used to needing X, Y, or Z on tour because I don't need it. Yeah, exactly. And I see like, again, like assuming those roles, assuming the role is like the band dad,

And I watch other bands where people are partying or maybe partying too hard. But I just, I'm just like, I don't, I couldn't do that. Like, I couldn't do all this stuff. Like, just the extra responsibilities. I would be the guy if I wasn't sober, if I was parting on tour, like, I would be the guy where that would go missing. You know, they'd be like, I mean, we see, we see it every day that those, those, those, that's what happens to those bands. Yeah. It's like, uh, where is it?

Where's our dad? Yeah, good for you, man. That's huge. I also think it's really admirable that you are outspoken about it, about your experience with it and stuff, because I think that that can, showing the trajectory of where you were to where you are, not to embarrass you,

but you're obviously in a very good place now. At least, you and I aren't that tight or anything, but like objectively speaking, and having known a, addiction in other ways throughout, I'm sure most people's lives, like, as like some young kid who's struggling, seeing that and then hearing you and others talk about like, yeah, man, like it was hard, but you know, whatever the experiences, I just think, I don't think there could be anything more important.

Straight edge guys aren't doing that. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's different. I mean, I won't say that I get offended, but I think if people are like, oh, you're straight edge, I have to like make a correction to make, no, I'm not straight. Like there's a difference between being like in recovering being straight. I guess you could be both. I could like claim claim whatever, but like there's just hard law exclusive. But there's definitely a difference to it. And I and I am outspoken about it like not in a corny way. I feel like I'm not out there like preaching whatever. But it's just part of I think if you're as you know, everybody has their own identity.

And it helps being in a band and being an artist or whatever to like, you know, reinforce like this is my own identity. Like this is what what I'm about or like what I've gone through. So I talk about it all the time just because it comes up. The only thing is that it's kind of double-sided where it's cool when people come up and they're like, oh, you know, I heard about your story. I read this article or like I watched this interview you did about it. It motivated me. And they're like, even on this last story, I would say at least five times people have met.

hey, I watch this and like, I'm 60 days sober, whatever. And I'm like, hell, it's amazing. But the weird, the negative part about it, or at least the uncomfortable part for me, is when people, like, will message me and be like, hey, I want to stop drinking, like, help me or something. And I'm like, I know, it's like an intent. Like you talk to a professional. Yeah.

Like, I can, I'm more than happy to be like, this is what I did. But I think, I'm not sure if it's been. a subject that you've talked about on here, but like kind of the entitlement that everybody has now because of, you know, if you like a band, when we were younger, if you liked a band, like, you can maybe go see them at a show, but you couldn't just reach out and like messaging. But it not only can you reach out, but someone's like, hey, I have this thing. Like, now it's your responsibility like, help me, you know, whether in varying degrees of, like, urgency or like just, I don't know how aggressiveness, but I don't.

I've had people reach out to me in different ways. And I kind of, I feel like, at first I kind of feel like an asshole. But then I'm like, it's not really like this isn't my responsibility. It shouldn't be your responsibility. Yeah. But it creates a weird sort of dynamic where I'm like, all right, what should I? Yeah. It happens.

And I'm speaking out of turn because it doesn't happen to me. But it happens to, and it's totally a different subject matter. But it happens to James a lot with like, I don't like it big, bro. You know, like, yeah. It's kind of like, dude, like, how do you think you did it? I'm going to text them that. Yeah, text them that. Oh, I was going to say earlier when you were asking me the embarrassing question to me,

and I was thinking about like somewhat like you said, oh, do you know? It's the same. I would say the thing with James. It's like, yeah, do you know that you're the buff guy? You know, and it's like at a certain point, you can't just be like, oh, I guess. I mean, it's like you have to kind of lean into it or not, you know. Yeah, I know I know that I am the buff guy. That helps gruesome.

Dude, some of the fucking DMs we get about James are horrific. Like truly vile. Really? Yeah. Like what they want to do to him? Yeah. Oh, I can't wait to have them on. Well, see, he doesn't have the, it's, it's me and Chris are the, the social.

So you're holding out on a brother? Trust me. I know, I know him. He doesn't, he doesn't want to do it, but, like, he deserves the ego boost. You know, he's doing a great job. He doesn't deserve no. He doesn't know. Oh, give him a break.

Chase, I would say with, in terms of, like, you know, and what your story does for other people, you're 10 years clean now, almost 10 years clean. And you're a sexy guy. That should be enough, you know? Like, if you are, if you're 10 years clean, you never know, you might just start a hit band and become the sexy guy.

It could be anyone. It could be you. It could be you. And I think that goes into part of it where I think a lot of like band culture, like you guys know what I'm talking about when there's like there's certain things where people with social media like you're posting about stuff. A lot of it is like you're posting your Ws. You know, you're posting whatever.

Some of it's to like, you know, some things, it's stuff that I could tell my parents. about and they can be like, oh, maybe you're not a loser, you know? Totally. But there's a lot of it where it's like your peers are the people that are like, oh, wow, look, they're doing this or whatever. Where it's just a fan of your band might just be like, who cares about that or whatever? And so I think it's like, I think maybe sometimes it gets lost in translation where sometimes it's like, for me, I said earlier, when I started the band, I was taking the bus.

You know, like I was in the Arizona 120 degrees summers, like taking the bus. You were starting flat. Yeah. So a couple of years, like two years ago, I bought myself a nice car. And that was because I've been able to find some sort of success or whatever. And I post about it. And for me, it's almost like, at least the narrative for me, it's like, I was able to do this. Like I started here and now I'm here.

It's like a growth thing, but some people might be like, oh, this guy is fucking trying to flex on us. Or just like, or just like, okay, he bought a car. Yeah. Most people have cars, right? Yeah. But like a perfect example is like I could not afford a car right now if I wanted one, you know, or for the last however many years. But like, so me seeing that or seeing like your place that you post about that is very nice looking. It's like, man, like, fuck yeah, like good good for you.

You know, it's totally that kind of thing. And I do think it's, you kind of have to read between the lines because at the same, while people might assume we're all making a ton of money, people in the industry or whatever who are involved with it, know that that's not really the case. Yeah. Most of the time, you know. Yeah. Well, I mean, the problem is always going to be that the listener or the fan or the spectator doesn't see the work go. that goes into what comes way down the line.

They don't see you fucking right. Like, this is obviously not the same, but like this goddamn God's hate record that we put out last year was like, like I didn't sleep for like months because I just was, it was like I'd have a variation of it.

Like they don't see that aspect of it where it's years and years and years of like work that does. Nothing for you to have this one moment where it's like, oh, I can buy a car. And then it's like, oh, you fucking, you're so lucky. Yeah. No. I grind it.

And Gay Creeper is like, the death, dude, you guys grind it. Like, you were perpetually on tour for the first five years of your existence, I feel. So good on you. And you did it. I also, I find GateCrieper admirable for being from a non-coastal place, much like Chicago. Like, it's less easy to get into the fest and the shows and for people to be aware because there's so much going on on either coast or major cities on either coast, you know,

that it's like, it's not easy. It's not easy to be a band from Tucson. Where do you guys say you're from? I'm from Phoenix. Phoenix. I'm from Mesa, actually. But I mean, where, so when I started the band, you know, I've been playing in bands forever in the Phoenix area. And I was like, I need a new batch. I want to play with new people. Because, you know, it's like a small place. Everybody's playing in it. You played in several bands with all the same people. There's just like not a whole lot of big group to choose from like this drummer plays in 10 bands. So I was like, I went down to Tucson. I actually, I met Matt or drummer. at a rotten sound show, which is funny that you named that's funny.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we talked about like, oh, yeah, again, I just was fresh out of rehab. And I was like, I'm trying to start a new band. Like, this is the shit that I like. I like this member or whatever. And he's like, oh, yeah, cool, me too. Let's start a band. And he, Eric was his roommate at the time.

And he was like, oh, my roommate plays guitar. And like, he wants to play with us. I was like, all right, cool. I'd never even met Eric. And then, funny enough, The first time that we ever played together was we went to a harm's way show. It was in Tucson. It was the tour where it was Harmsway Homewrecker dead in the dirt.

Yeah, I remember that tour. And because Matt played drums in territory, and they played that show. So we went to that show, hung out for the first time, and then the next day was the first ever get creeper practice. So dope. Love that. The circle is complete. Yeah.

Jason, if you were in a city, let's say a city, I don't know. Let's just say L.A., but it had every fast food, every kind of restaurant place, whatever, but fast food. If you had it go to one. What's like the first thing you go, oh, I wonder if they have Taco Bell. Taco Bell, that's your spot. Yeah. I mean, that's your, what's your order? Yeah, it is a safe bet.

It's true. My Taco Bell order, I was a lifelong double-decker guy. They took that away. Bastards. Yeah. Yeah, straight. I liked towards the end of the double-decker, I started to, using Eric's, a phrase of Eric's, customize your reality.

And so in reference to fast food, you know, it's like, all right, so I'd start customizing my reality. I'd be like, let me get a double-decker with a fiery shell. add nacho cheese you know it's racking up you know it's not that it's no longer that cheap

once you start doing all those additions but Taco Bell in general yeah dude the fucking $2 meal deal of your of yester year yeah was I lived

the Baja the medium Baja the bag of chips and the five layer for two bucks insane that's crazy how were they profiting how can that possibly be

profitable for Frito Lays. Frito Lace. But now I get... I mix it up. That tells you how frequently I go. I have to mix it up. But a cheesy Gordita Crunch. That's my number one. That's what my go-to.

Two soft tacos, just a straight-up regular taco. Maybe a crunch rat. No tomato, no sour cream. Ah. I'm also a no sour cream guy. Are you a no white sauce in general, or just not sour cream. No sour cream.

One thing I forgot to mention, Colin, is Chris is the exact same as me. I know that doesn't. Yeah, two fucking herverts in one man. No white sauce. Except for, you know what I realize? I like Alfredo.

Yeah. You are a fucking hypocrite. No rimeo guy. No mayo. No mayo. No sour cream. No ranch. I'll give you some fucking white sauce.

People get, people get really offended when it comes to ranch. Oh. People love ranch. I am on the ranch. Italian. I will, I will raise arms. Don't say that to Eric. Don't say that to Eric. He'll fuck you up, right? He'll fuck you up. Dude, another, another Ericism that I've picked up on online is meal team six. Yeah. Oh, I love that. When you're going in, you're meal team six.

And I, I think that being like, nobody in my, the funny thing about Gay Krieber is nobody is straight edge, but nobody really parties anymore. You know, like, nobody. I know, So I think that there's a common bond there where it's like, what do you do on tour when you're, you don't do drugs or you don't party? You fucking eat a lot. You know, like you find a good spot to eat,

you know? You are speaking. This is the choir. We're all harmonizing. Yeah. We did a fast food episode and one of the first things we said was we're straight edge. All we do is like eat food and buy things. Like that's all we have.

and buying stuff. That's what I live for. That's all there is. And a good meme. I know you agree with you. Capitalist commercial pigs. Oh, capitalize me. I'm here to consume. Consumerists. That's the word I was thinking of. Yeah, whatever.

But yeah, fast food, Taco Bell for sure. You know, we like a canes. If we're talking regional, a canes is a good hot. We didn't talk canes at all. And I feel really, I feel, I'm disappointed in myself as a big fan. I mean, it's pretty specific, though, because I mean, it's, it's like an in-and-out, even more so where it's like, you can get chicken fingers and that's it. There's no wiggle room. So if you don't like chicken fingers, you're out of luck.

Yeah, you're going to, there's always a chick-fil-a across the street. So you'll be fine. We have. That's a Sunday. We have a Keynes here now, which is new. It's right by the metro. Have you been? I haven't, I'm not crazy about Keynes.

Oh, why because of the white sauce? It's because of the sauce. Yeah. Well, no. You don't have any little room. You don't have any choice of sauce either, not just the chicken. It's not. It's not.

It's not. Exactly. So it's not because of the sauce, but I know that. You eat ketchup. You eat ketchup with chicken nuggets. Yeah. To what, hold on, to be fair. No, no, no, no.

If I'm going to like McDonald's, I'll get the buffalo sauce. I like buffalo. Buffalo's fun. Well, in defense. of ketchup, as much as I think Bo is a sexual divot. Should be locked up. The McDonald's ketchup is built a little different. It is built.

They got sugar in there. They got extra sugar. Whatever's in there. High fruit toast corn syrup, brother. And with the nugget, that's like, I'm like five years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm in the back seat of the car, the booster seat, and I'm like, oh, fuck. And I'm not saying I have a refined palette or anything.

I'm just, I'm telling you what I like. I'm not saying you are either. I have a question. It's like completely left field, but not really. No, no. Regarding to being a small kid and being in McDonald's, in Arizona, for some reason,

during the summer in the McDonald's, whether it was like an indoor playground or they'd somehow kind of be like a hybrid. It's a kind of an outdoor on a patio. Yeah, yeah, they would like run water through it. So it'd be like, they would turn it almost into like a water sloth. And it just smelled terrible.

It smelled like little kid feet, like maybe like diapers, you know. This is in Arizona or in one location? I thought that this was a normal thing because I'd been there in multiple locations, but I talked to other people that are outside of Arizona and they're like, no, that's, I've never even heard of that. They got, they for sure had like the first ever be health rating. Dude, yeah, OSHA is losing their mind. That is sickening.

Yeah, that's crazy. You were explaining being a kid and being in the back seat, and instantly popping into my head, I thought about this water thing, but I figured you guys can't relate. Dude, I have a- You're a kid and you're like, I'm going to McDonald's there for.

Time to get wet and wild. Swoon trucks. I have a kind of Mandela thing about when I was a kid. My grade school, every Wednesday, had us rinse our teeth with fluoride. Did yours do that, Chase? No, but in Arizona, we were one of the first states, or maybe it was the city that I lived in,

they were one of the first cities to put fluoride in the water supply. So we have that too. But did you back then? Because that's kind of a new, like a modern thing. I believe so. I believe so. It was like an extra thing. So we would, every Wednesday, every kid would have to swish

and spit back into a little Dixie cup and then toss it. And no one. I've ever met, besides me and Chris, because we went to the same grade school, has ever done that. Even James, who lived a town over. Nope. That's disgusting, for one.

That's a government sciop is what it is. Did you guys have bagged chocolate milk? Fuck, no. Was it not the greatest single treat of all time? And then you blow it up afterwards? You rip off the corner and just go like, it's like a bag this full. You go,

single and then and then fill it up with something else. Well, you could have, it was like, I remember it being kind of like a Capri Sun thing where you stab a little straw into it. The straw was optional for you. I didn't accept the straw. The savage.

I just, I tore the pin off and blew it up. Just let it rip. What did my, my grade school, they didn't have pop. So it was only like Fruitopia. Do you remember Fruitopia?

By junior high, yeah. For sure. Yeah. Fruitopia. It would all settle. And I know, that's normal, but like it would gross me out.

I couldn't drink it. Yeah. My school had the straw. This is, this is, I'm not, maybe this isn't controversial. Maybe this is a normal thing to some people, but the strawberry nestquick. Oh. I never been into that. I can't think of a worse thing.

Oh. Oh, you're going, you're going that direction. No, no, no, no, no. I like the strawberry. I'm down with the strawberry. But the powder, I like the powder. Not the goo. There's strawberry powder.

People are making that at home. Yeah, absolutely There's, dude, there's banana You are a fucking menace There's banana Nesquick, yes I've seen that yet I don't like the banana I'm not a dog

I think that you maybe should be So you won't do mayo But you'll do a strawberry milk Yeah, because it's just I don't have a problem Here's what doesn't make sense I don't have a problem with milk I don't have a problem with like half

and half in my coffee What about eggs? I don't have a problem with eggs Is it mayo just milk and eggs? No, it's, eggs and oil. Theoretically, I should have no problem with mayo. Dude, those are three of the goats.

But here's the thing, and here's how you know it's true. I can't even do vegan mayo. Like, there's, it's just what it, it's the goopiness of what it is. Even when I was a kid, I get that. I'm sensitive to that sort of stuff too. When I was a kid, I hated Taco Bowl because you would eat and you would be

messy or like sloppy Joe's. I didn't like having food on my face. I've grown up. So you're gone to Zwing guy. I was. Now I'm not. But yes. You were talking about wingstop. Are you, uh, I like boneless wings.

And I, I found that it's a very like people get mad about. Yeah, yeah. You like you, you're like, oh, I better go to wing stop and get, get it is 12 pack of boneless. You do that? Fuck yeah. Wow. Colin has a very specific bone, uh, wing stop order. I do.

I, so when I go to wing stop, it's changed a little. Okay. Because they introduced the spicy Korean, which is. Yeah. Yeah, but this is the kind of wings that you get that is specific. So I get the traditional classic wing, but all flat. All flat. So no drumsticks for this man.

I like a drumstick in general. He just likes that. I think wing stops flat in particular. It's like all dark meat. It just falls off that bone. Do you break the bone? I don't do the, I don't need to do the whole gimmick. I just, I don't even need to do that.

I just slide it. Oh, wow. I got, my teeth are strategic. But I love the boneless wings from there. Yeah. I love it. There's a very common thing that people, they think that they're so, like,

funny or smart whenever they're like, yeah, I'm going to bone the swing and they go, you mean a chicken nugget? It's like, wow, I haven't heard that one before, but everybody thinks that they're like, that's like peak comedy to say that. I'm really happy.

You probably said that before. Have you said that before? I don't know. You said, how, you mean a chicken nugget? Pleaded the fifth. Yeah, he said it. I'm really happy that you guys and my wife all have that in common. Dude, I lost what I was going to say.

Sorry. Fuck. Too offended? Yeah. You were going to say, ranch is dope and I love to eat it. Boneless wings. Boneless wings. Wing stop.

Chick-fil-Aid chicken. Well, we got into the subject because you were talking about how you don't have to be messy. It's true. It's really true. And I feel like that plays into it with a bone-loat, you know, Like a, you could just boop, boom. You could fork it. Oh, another, I was going to say, another weird thing about me is I love food cold.

I love food that was prepared normally, saving half, throwing it in the fridge for a couple hours and picking that back up at like 10 p.m. Maybe you're not so crazy. Okay. Wings not boneless wings cold? Fucking awesome. See, I feel the same about their classic one. Okay. I like to save five or six of them.

Yeah, dude. And hit it with the ranch. It's a perfect little snack. Well, yeah, but without the ranch because I'm an adult. But I really, really like it. There's some foods that, yeah, it's good and maybe even better cold. But there's some stuff that's like the leftovers are just, have you ever, if you're reheating McDonald's, you're down deep in the trenches. Don't even bother.

Even Taco Bell. Taco Bell does not sit well. You leave a taco bow for an hour. Maybe it's like you're trying to microwave lettuce. That might be part of it. It just gets nasty. Nick does that. He'll order shit at Taco Bell and then leave it under a bench and like eat it later that night.

Oh my God. And it. Yeah, you can't sit for a half hour. How dare you, Colin. One time we went to San Diego and you made us buy you a tree hulos. That California. A tree hulose. Whatever it is.

The guy plays in your face. favorite man. You can't say his name. Trujillo. True. Sorry. And we kept it. Dude,

we got food there. All of us ate. We kept his burrito in the glove box of our minivan because we flew out. Went to the beach. The minivans in the sun all day. Go to the show. Play the show. The fucking burrito's still in there.

We go to Taylor's house later. You didn't tell me that part. You told me you went there for dinner after the show. No, no, no, no. And then drove home. No, no, no. I texted you and said, dude, are you sure because X, Y, and Z? And you said it won't matter.

Hey, it's a burrito is, a burrito is pretty indestructible. Honestly, you can let a burrito sit around for a while. You know what the problem is is rice. It was good. Yeah. All right. So I was right. I got a question, a tour question.

Yeah. What is your guys cut off for how close to when you have to play that you can eat? It depends on what you're doing. singing if you're playing guitar yeah it's probably different for me than you drum drums eating like two hours before kind of benefits me oh wow little carboload

I got yeah I get you fucking some fettuccini but but singing like straight up if we're playing it's like seven or eight I'll eat it like two yeah

I need at least four hours I'm pushing it if I'm hitting it before you know, if we're playing at eight and I'm eating even at four, I'm pushing it. It depends. Chipotle at four. Yeah, yeah. It's coming back up. It's coming back up.

Well, yeah. Yeah, plus you do such a guttural thing, too. I can't even imagine that. Your voice, where it comes from is where the food goes. Yeah, exactly. It depends on if we're headlining or not. If you're headlining, you got to eat beforehand because by the time you're settling, get out.

If you're not, you can kind of play and then go grab some food, which is typically what I like to do. Oh, that's a great feeling. I like to burn some cows and then go eat and then I'm red. I'm good. Yeah. Replenish your fluids. Yeah. And whatnot.

I did. I had a, you're talking about letting food sit in a van. We were at, we were in Detroit. We're at the sanctuary. And there's a Jets right around the corner. And we love Jets. I love Jets. Yes, we do.

So I was like, I need to get some jets, but I can't eat it. I don't have time to eat it. So I got a jet. I got a four corner turbo crust. Of course. You know, that shit stinks. You know, it smells like balls, all the parmesan. Like, but, and so I got it.

And I was like, I'm going to save this for later. I'm just going to put it in the van. I'm just going to put it in the van for later. I think me and maybe someone else did too. So we just decided to let these fuck in the summer. Just let these jets, turbo crust, peop. just marinate in our van and that was probably one of the worst decisions. I ate it.

How long did that sting? It's days. Wow. Days. That's strong. Yeah, it's strong. Garlic palm.

Butter. On heat. Yeah. That will replicate. Yeah. You can't stop that. That's like one of the best things about that venue is that there's that jets right around the corner.

Yeah. You have jets at home in Arizona, Chase. I know, but there's a lot. only two and they're like on separate sides of town. And but I've done it. I've made the, I've made the 40 minute commute to go pick up some jets. Is it crazy expensive? I don't think so.

I mean, it's definitely for the quality. I mean, I think it's high quality. But it's in the same tier as a little Caesars or Pizza Hut or whatever. It's definitely more expensive than those. Here's, here's my beef, Colin. A large Lou Melnades is cheaper than a large jets. I mean, that's, that's a problem. Yeah, that's a problem.

That's crazy. That cannot. That's crazy. This aggression will not stand, man. But that's two different appetites. It is. I want, but we know that loses a tier above Jets.

I'm sorry. They're using, they got the shit from Whole Foods that day. You know, like that's, that's a premium product. And Jets, as beautiful of an experience as it is every time.

Like, that's coming from a factory. If you discovered that, if you discovered that Jets was, you were at a bowling alley, and you got a slice of pizza and you'd be like, this is amazing bowling alley pizza.

Yeah. Well, okay. I'm not calling Jets bowling alley. Neither am I. I'm just saying it's a tear. It's a tear. It's on the same tier as Little Caesars,

just like, No, it's not. I could see Bourdain biting into a Jets and being like, wow. Yeah, but that guy also, I'm traveling here.

He had a weird internal bias against Waffle House. You ever see that clip where he goes to the Waffle House for the first time? And he's like shocked. that it's good? Yes.

He assumed that it would be trash. And the first thing out of his mouth with the guy who's with, he's like, now I assume I don't want to get a waffle from the waffle house, right? It's the best. Yeah. It's kind of basically the only thing worth eating there. Whoa. Whoa.

Whoa. To me, my day is dark and depraved if I end up at Waffle House. It's a, there's a specific window that, you know. I got to go. It's after the show. It's like midnight to 2 a.m. That's when you're Waffle House. I will actively stop the van to go to Waffle House.

I've been to Waffle House. Yeah, we've been together. We don't have them here, Colin, to be fair. We only get them on tour. I don't have them here either. Yeah, but you have everything else. That's true. But, dude, the Grand Slam, $8 with a pancake and coffee?

It's not a Grand Slam. American Denny's proprietary. All-Star special. My apologies. The all-star special. The apology accepted. It's fucking amazing. Smothered, covered.

You're sick, man. Price never comes out to the same thing, ever. No, but it's always like, it's like the lady's just the nicest person in the world, but then she's like in a fist fight at the end of the trip. I have a food experience that I remember with you. What's hit me. When we were in Oakland, we ate some really bad ramen. at least what I thought was rum.

And I think it was my first ramen experience. And ever since then, I'm like, I don't like ramen. I like fah. But ramen, we had some bad robin. Did we not? We really did. And that's, I blame myself. As like a guy who likes ramen, I should know to not like look across the street and be like, says ramen.

Yeah. Guess we're eating there. But I think I was just on a ramen tear at that time. But it's very, one next time you're here, maybe we'll do one of these things where I talk to you in real life. We'll do a ramen redemption. That's the title of that episode. That's it.

Chase Mason's ramen. This one will be Chase Mason is a sexy guy. Probably. Or he knows. Chase Mason knows. Dot, dot, dot. Question mark. Well, this has been over an hour already.

Yeah. Isn't they crazy? I feel like, you know what we got to do? Time flies is just two guys. It's just three guys hang out. Yeah. It's really all it is. You know, I think Andy was right, though, Colin,

in that we should have like, like universal questions ready to rock. Sure. Just because I want to get the stories. Well, that I really want to know what everybody's eating. That is true. That is the thing. I'm glad you asked. And like, I eat Taco Bell on a rig.

at home. So I'm with you there. Yeah. I'm a beefy five, man, myself. Grilled. Oh, I love getting that shit grilled. Got it.

Oh, man. When you don't, when it comes not grilled out of the bag, it's like the tortilla is cold. It's a sad day. It's kind of, it opens a whole new door, the grilling shit.

It really does. I know that we're, we're out of time or over time. But as far as it sounds like you guys are in the same boat where people are like, where there's people your tour with are like, eating so much fast food. I'm like, I'm eating less fast food than I'm normally eating at home. Yeah.

That's my normal go-to, which I'm just a trash person. Same. And that's why I started working out because it was like, oh, this is how I can maintain. Right. You can. The thing I like to do. You can eat whatever the hell you want. And I like, for me, not quite because I would eat three pieces a day, eight days a week if I could.

whole thing. But defining that little balance of like, all right, today I get to go to Taco Bell. It's like, but on tour, there's, there's no rules, absolutely. Dude, what is there, by the way, is there anything worse than it being like midnight and the lobby ain't open and you're in a van with a trailer with vegans of vegetarians and they ask, can you stop a Taco Bell? No. You're driving and you got to do the whole shit.

The post-beast-covid world. everything. I remember the first tour we did back and it was just like, it was that times 10 where it was like nothing was open inside. The weird hours, like the hours that it said on. Complete lie. Correct.

I don't want to live in that. I don't want a tour in that world. A paper on the door that's like, nobody want work. Can't come. I can't wait to have Taylor. Taylor has like actual drive-through anxiety when he's alone. Like it's the kind of thing.

What do you like, what do you want? And he'll be like, oh. Like, so when he's ordering for five different people, it's like the worst four minutes of my life. Because I have to hear him be like, he's like rude unintentionally. Because he's trying to get it over. He's trying to get it out. 10 nuggets.

We, we have somebody in our touring party, our sound guy Rippy. He has a. Great guy. He has a curse. The Rippy curse that every single place that we go to, sit down fast food they mess up his order every time i would and sometimes we absorb the curse so in a situation like that we're ordering for everybody his curse rubs off on us and our order gets messed up it's it it's it i can't take it was funny but and it was like funny but now it's

it's almost like eerie it comically bad yeah it's like dude what how does this keep happening every time it's usually nick because he's the vegan we we want to went to a Denny's once. What a selfish guy. We all ate and finished our meals. And he still didn't get his Boca burger or whatever the fuck. So we just left. Wow.

You know when you're eating and everybody is like, everybody gets their number called and you get your stuff? And there's the one person just like waiting. And then they're like, eventually they're like, hey, what about number 27? And they're like, oh. It's always him. It's always right.

Oh, yeah, we forgot about that. Or we thought you already got it. Yeah, that's always him. He's the guy that. I would lose it. After the second or third one, I'm like, I'm looking at like sage. Yeah, you got the malor. How to lift curse. Like, I'm not getting curse.

In that regard, curse me however you want. Don't fuck with my food. One of my, one of our favorite stories involving this exactly was James ordering for everyone at Taco Bell. We're on a way back from Milwaukee. It's like a two-hour drive. So there's no big deal. And we're all, we're in a great mood. played a good show, blah, blah, blah.

And Chris asked like three times, like James, make sure they get fire sauce. Chris likes his shit spicy. George likes his chicken spicy. And he asks him like three times. And then we get the bag and Chris is like, oh, there's no, we're still at the window. And there's no fire sauce.

And Chris goes, James, could you please ask for fire sauce? And James just looks at the window, puts in, drives us too late. It just drives them. And to me, like that's a ritual sin. That's somebody's Joker origin story. Yeah, straight out. Chris is in the back.

When Taylor or Nate are ordering for me, like, if I said Chick-fil-A or something, I have a specific sauce regimen that if I don't do, I become Joker. So if I don't get my three-ranch, three-chik-fil-A, like, I'm going to put a smile on that piece. It's game over. So I get it.

Well, Chase, what do you got coming up? Anything? We're going to Mexico City. Yeah, with Cannibal. Yeah, I play with Cannibal. And then we're going to Europe for a summer. Do a lot of the festival. We're playing Hellfest.

There you go. I watched a little bit of your last episode. Yeah. In preparation, you talked a lot about Hellfest. Dude, it genuinely fucking rocks. Yeah. It's great. And I hope they haven't changed anything because it's so bad.

300 bands playing or whatever. Yeah. Jay was saying because they're doing like, a whole week. It's like a whole week. Yeah. Make up. The flyer just looks like a chart of every band ever. It's like, here's every band. Except for our fucking bands. Must have got lost in the mail. So yeah, we're doing that and then we got

yeah. I know that, I know you said before that that we've been grinding. We've, it seems like we've been touring nonstop. Years prior, it was maybe a third of the year, which, you know, it spread out. Maybe seems like a lot. But this year in particular is the most that we're touring. How many months? Hands down.

Wow. I mean, at least for the rest of the month, for the rest of the year, there's not one month that we don't have something. Wow. Yeah, that's, that's heavy. That's heavy. And that's called bag chasing, brother. And a lot of people don't know that.

There you go. You're chasing it, but you also found it, but that don't stop the chase. But you also know that you're sexy. And on that note, thank you so much for watching. We'll see you next week.