HardLore - Colin's Journey in Japan (With Q&A)

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

HardLore sits back down together for the first time in weeks, catching up in this 3 hour Q&A/recap of Colin's time in Japan and playing Just Another Gig festival in Tacoma, WA the next day. HardLore Official Website/HardLore Records store: https://hardlorepod.com Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef This episode is brought to you by ATHLETIC GREENS! Try AG1 at athleticgreens.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1. Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe Check out our merch at https://knotfest.com/store/?view=hardlore Find all of our videos at https://knot1.co/3vWXsbx TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Episode Preview 0:22 - Intro 1:13 - Colin in Japan 3:08 - Tokyo Disney 4:42 - Japanese Food 7:19 - Monkeys 13:16 - Bullet Train to Kyoto 16:18 - Vampire Survivors 19:39 - NERDS Records/ Disk Union 24:56 - Drum game 25:52 - Sanjūsangen-dō 27:30 - Cold brew in Kyoto 31:20 - Japanese sweets 38:10 - JAG (Just Another Gig) 41:23 - Pardon this interruption 44:30 - Sting 54:23 - Lamb of God/Pantera in Wisconsin 58:42 - Q&A START 1:07:54 - Rip off shirts 1:16:24 - Top 3 albums before 1980 1:20:03 - Beatles ranked 1:28:17 - Has HardLore made us closer? 1:34:06 - ETID Rules 1:50:59 - The Longest Pee 1:55:08 - Worst mosh injury 1:58:00 - Drain tour 1:59:04 - Ghibli Movies 2:03:45 - Fortnite 2:11:44 - Best music collab 2:23:42 - Albums that grew on us 2:45:39 - How often should bands release musis? 2:46:34 - Underrated songs by our bands   HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER   For sponsorship opportunities, email us! [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I walked minimum 10 miles a day in Japan. How your dogs doing? My body fell apart last day. I had like a crazy infection thing here, my finger somehow. I don't know, maybe from touching monkeys and shit. Yeah. Which I did do. You're not allowed to touch her, but I'm touching it.

Let's make history. Ready? I'm so ready. Hello, welcome. It's hard of our time. Wow. How are you? Bo? I've missed you, man. I know. They don't understand, you know, they've seen two weeks back to

back of episodes, but it's actually been like three or four since we've recorded one. Yeah, which is like, not only are we recording, we're catching up, we're making plans, we're talking about stuff. How was your journey? It was, I mean, it was, it's unbelievable. Yeah. Is it still the coolest place in the world? Yes. Yes. So I just went to Japan for 10 days. Finally took my, my first vacation first like actual vacation of my entire life Yeah like adult do whatever I want Of like okay I'm going to a place I really want to go to And I'm going to do all the stuff I really want to do

I can't recommend that enough Not even just Japan Just doing that in general I'm not I don't I don't think I As a traveling musician ever understood The appeal of travel Dude I fully agree with what you're saying right now It's like was you

do it right. It's like, oh. Now I get the appeal of travel when you're going to a place that you like. And there's no place I like more. There's a lot of places I don't like where the idea of going back to them is like, no, I want to be home. I'd rather, I'd rather sit in this chair. Yeah, right. Then go to bleep. But Japan is, yes, it is still the best place ever. for I feel for them because the yen is really low right now.

Did you clean up? I truly, dude, it was, I made out like a bandit. What are some acquisitions? I got a Sepulterr shirt. I got a beneath a shirt, like an OG beneath the remain shirt. I got a boss tone's long sleeve, which is insane. Yeah, that's crazy. I got like eight pairs of pants.

So many pants. Did you fit it all in your original luggage or did you have to? the bottom. No, we brought a collapsible duffel. Of course you did. Had to. Yeah. We got so many little toys, you know. Dude, look at this. I know someone who likes to purchase many

items. Dude, you know we love our items. Look at the Samurai Mickey. Oh, God. Oh, dude, how was Disney World? It's cool. It's very similar. Okay. To But the stuff that's not, to Disneyland. To Disneyland. I didn't go to

the Tokyo Sea one, which I guess is the one that's like completely unique. Gotcha. Now I know. But the stuff that is unique to the park is really cool. Like the Monster Zink Ride is, uh, it's like a, it's kind of like an astroblasters type thing. Yeah. You use flashlights to find boo.

Oh. So it's like interactive and you get points based on like how many times you can find her. And like Mike Wazowski speaking Japanese is like the best thing you ever. No. It sounds like a guy speaking Japanese who his name happens to be Mike Wozowski. It's amazing. And then everything is Big Hero 6 themed. Oh.

Which is one of my favorite recent Disney movies. That makes sense. Because it's like fictional, it's San Frinsokio, so it's like a fictional city. But yeah, it's the best place ever. It's your, it is highly technologically advanced and so culturally rich. at the same time. Interesting. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Where you can take a 10 minute train to like the oldest temple you've ever seen. And then and like the rest station of the temple, you can take a shit on the warm toilet. Yeah. With a heat seeking bidet. Yeah. That sucks your ass off.

It's unbelievable. It's the best place ever. Talk to me about food. What do we eat? All right. So I'm sure the listeners here all the time. People go to Japan and talk about. 7-11? Yeah.

It's, you got to see it to believe it, you know? 7-Eleven family mart, their convenience stores are, their fast food tier. But like higher. Yeah, yeah, like on our tier list, it would be like a B. It would be like, 100%. Oh, I'll go there, no problem. I ate there in some capacity every single day. Because a lot of coffee places aren't open early, which is interesting.

Interesting. Interesting. Like coffee places in Asakaso where we stayed, which highly recommend. There was only one that opened early, and it was like a Norwegian coffee place, which was really fucking good. It's called fuggling. So it was just us texting each other in the morning every day, like anybody want to get fuggly? And then we'd indulge. But the, dude, so every morning before going to fugly, I would get the chicken.

a Katsu sandwich from 7-Eleven? Yeah. Or the pizza bun? Yeah. Yeah. Dude, the pizza bun is fucked up. I saw you get that like on one of your first stories after arriving. It was one of the first things I did was like, ah, pizza bun.

And then, but the thing, if we had access to the 7-Eleven chicken sandwich, I would have no problems. Like the whole Such a huge part of my day is fuck What do I eat today? Yeah right And if I could walk to 7-11 And get that little chicken sandwich I'd be fine

First of all I'd be skinny and ripped Because it'd just be like I can go to the gym And then go get this damn chicken sandwich Yeah I understand why there's so few fat people there But there's no diet soda Dude I

It's a mystery to me I've never been able to unlock it because like noodles and rice and carbs or carbs, I don't understand. I don't get it. I don't, but it's kind of like all of Tokyo is, like, when you go to New York, right? Yeah. You're eating pizza and pasta, but you're somehow not losing weight because you're walking everywhere. It's got to be, like, I walked minimum 10 miles a day in Japan.

How your dogs doing? My body fell apart last day, completely. Yeah. And then you went straight to it. show. I had like a crazy infection thing here, my finger somehow. And then got one on the same finger on the other hand.

I don't know how. I don't know. Maybe from touching monkeys and shit. Yeah. Which I did do. You're not allowed to touch them, but I'm touching. My feet were falling apart. I broke in new Doc Martins. Oh, dude.

By walking 10 miles a day. Oh, my God. I bet they fit like a glove now, though. they're great. They're the chel- the insulated Chelsea's. Yeah, I saw them. They were nice.

They're nice. They're warm. They're warm. They're built for Chicago when I was wearing them in Tokyo. What is the, like the fanciest food you got? We got sushi with Zuma and Sienna.

Yeah. And he took us to like an omicasse sushi type experience. Fuck yeah. It was very good. I will say most of the like restaurant meals we had were borderline disappointing? Really? Borderline.

Not this one. The sushi was great. But it kind of felt like we were going to the wrong places every time. But then Lana would be like, okay, this TikTok says this place is good. And then it would be unbelievable. But I didn't have, I had good scheming there. Yeah. I don't remember what it was called.

But it didn't have a single like amazing bowl of ramen, which was a bone. You know what? When we were there, I didn't either. I defaulted to Udon like every time. Yeah. We had Udon one time and it was pretty good. Dude, we had Udon at like at the Mount Fuji like Visitors Center. And it was one of the best bowls I had the whole time. No joke. I believe it. The first time I went, we stayed at the same hotel that every band stays at in Shinjuku. Yeah, yeah. Which is like next, it's like the, it's like a sex hotel next to the Samurai Museum.

Yep. And there's a shitty little ramen place on the corner. And that was the first ramen I had in Japan ever. And it blew me away. And I didn't feel that again. But I got the pancakes, the fluffy pancakes. Oh, dude. Yeah.

Are you kidding me? Are they doughy or they airy? They're so fluffy. Lovely. It's just, we ordered. So I went with Lana, Mack and Brittany Miller, and Erica Perez. Only three of us went to the pancakes. but we, we, you have to like put a down payment on them to get them in the morning.

So we went at 8.30 and they were like, come back at noon. Whoa. You have to do same day reservations because it's so gnarly. So we had to line up at 8 a.m. Paid for five plates of pancakes for three people. And when we saw them, we were like, what if we don't? We're the, we're the biggest, greediest motherfuckers in the world. And then you start eating them.

And it's just. Wow. Oh. Just go straight down. Dude, Japan can't believe custard. Neither can both. And they, well, like, in America, I don't really care about it. Really?

But I can't, I could not get enough. Oh, man. Custard. I love custard. So surprising. It's the same goop as mayo. I know. Well, but, but not.

But I know. I know. It's the same exact. No, there's sugar. Oh, it texture. But like, I think that texture in a dessert is okay. Cream. You like cream. I don't mind cream as a thing. I don't like it savory. Okay. I mean, I like the idea. Cottage cheese grosses me now. It's the grossest thing ever. And you know what was really validating for me is the one blooper of Michael Scott eating cottage cheese. And he's like, oh my God. Like he stops a whole scene. It's like, okay. For some reason, that validated my feelings. Yeah, I can't act right now. You know what I drank a lot of when I was there? Was that?

The high sea thing? The tenta... Oh, shit. What does it taste like? Pokari sweat? It tastes like liquid IV, but better. Okay. What's Pocari?

Hokari. What is that? I don't know. Some Japanese thing. Some, like, Japanese pharmaceutical company made it. And it's like an ion replacement drink. It's like liquid IV. Yeah, yeah, sure.

Like, there's sugar in it, and I don't care. I ordered two crates as soon as I got home. Did you really? I can't live without it. Wow. It's like it's the perfect drink. And they don't have a sugar-free. They just don't have that there.

No, they definitely don't have a sugar-free. But what's weird is that in Japan, it says K-Cal was like 35. And this one, I think this one was manufactured in, oh, it says Japan. Product of Thailand for export only. This one has 123 calories. Makes you think. It does. What about the omelet, the guy?

I didn't get the alma. I didn't get the alma. But man, I ate good all day every day. Yeah. I ate every 30 minutes. I don't know how I'll subscribe. I had Wagyu skewers five times a day. I had, I had, there was one of the times where we went to ramen where we had to wait in line to go in the place.

So I got a pork bowl across the street while waiting in line for ramen. The pork bowl was so much better than the ramen. It was so good. Did you try McDonald's or any fast food stables? We, where do we go? I really wanted, I can't believe I'm just now remembering this. I didn't get the fucking kilogram cheese domino's pizza. I'm an idiot.

Gotta go back. I know. I think I got to make it an annual pilgrimage. Didn't go to Osaka at all. Really? No. But we took, we took the bullet train which how fast is it i mean it's so fast but nothing will make you

shake your head at america more than riding the bullet train because it's just the most efficient quiet dude it's 300 miles in two hours what are we doing we're the dollar is impenetrable right now we're a we're a superpower in the world quote unquote and our transit is a fucking joke Yeah, there was one of the reasons that the Civil War, like, secession even started was a debate over an intercontinental rail line going through Chicago or going through, I think it was Atlanta, like the major hubs. And, like, it's been unsettled since then. You know what I mean? Like, the Civil War? That was like one of the things where it's like, now we can't have a damn train.

You know, like that was one of the things that was like a precursor to. discussions about secession. And it's still to this day. And also it's like, dude, you can take a train from Chicago to Seattle if you want to. If you want to spend $1,800 and it takes a week. Exactly. Yeah. That's and that's there need, there should be an efficient high speed rail system across the entire country. Why does Tesla have a tunnel in Vegas just for Tesla's?

And there's no fucking train from here to San Francisco. No train from you to San Francisco. or from you to Vegas even. And I guess that's being developed, but it departs from Rancho Cucamonga. Well, where is that in relation to? Two hours away in traffic. Oh, Jesus.

So it's like, I got to drive two hours to take a drain, two hours to do a four hour drive. It's so stupid. It's, we're brainless. And it's like the biggest proof of oil companies running everything. Yeah. Yeah.

Where you live, period, is. the biggest proof that I've personally ever witnessed of like, oh, if you don't have a car here, you're, you're fucked. You are fucked. The public transport here is a joke. And you have it. I mean, there are cities that are just like tech. Think about those Texas highways and the turnoffs and stuff.

My mom lived in Dallas for five years, no car. Why is there not an inner, well, I guess Texas is planning to secede or something. Yeah. Here we go. So when they, maybe once we get, once that has. happens, we'll get that rail and go Arizona, New Mexico. Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Arkansas. That'll be great. And then flying, would you watch? Oh, dude. Played a lot of video games. Nice. Would you play? So it started, I'm still on Vampire Survivor. It's the easiest thing to do two things at

wants to. Dude, I literally played it last night. I'm not like no joke. Dude, I have billions of hours on it. Yeah. And do, I found a random chest in a random level and suddenly unlock story mode. What? Yes. I had no idea. Yeah, there's an adventure mode. Holy shit. It's just, it's a thing I found in a random level. It's so cool. It's unbelievable. Who's your guy? Who's your starting guy? What's your starting guy? What This is weapon. The guy, the throwing knife guy. Throwing knife guy.

I like the garlic guy. The force field guy. He's like the old man, but he's not slow. The other guy's slow. The garlic is pretty good. I like the whip. The whip or the knife for my number one. Yeah.

Yeah. Dude, but dude, how powerful do you feel when you get all them combo weapons? Dude. It's unbelievable. When you max out like the holy Bible, the Bible one? Dude, the Bible one's incredible. It's so good. The scythe that like spins around.

Yeah. Yeah. The fireball sucks. But you know what? If you max it out and you get to the end, highest damage output is the fireball. I bet because it's the slowest one and it goes in one direction.

That's right. What is a funny episode, huh? Yeah, and then I started the new Yakuza on the plane because I was like, dude, I got to play something Japanese to get fired up. Oh, man, get you locked in. And it was so good that I immediately stopped.

I'm not going to experience that on a little screen. I refuse. Was that on your Steam deck? It was on the Steam deck. I simply will not waste squander that beautiful experience on a tiny screen

You have a lovely You have a lovely gaming setup I do And I just made it better That you'll experience on that It would be great You didn't watch anything or Oh yeah I know I watched

Dude I watched Missing It's the same team that made searching With John Cho Oh okay But fuck what's her name She's this She's Rue's sister in Euphoria

she's the main character I don't know it's the same type of story where it's all takes place on a screen and it's all shown with like things from screen recordings like FaceTime and stuff and like 10 minutes in the movie

somebody was like oh you're from Hollywood and she says I'm from Van Nuys and I was like I'm in and I literally you know the meme where you see the guy sits forward in the chair yeah that was me that I sit forward to my chair

and I was locked in for the rest of this movie. This thing turned out to be one of the great pieces of Van Nuys Media in history. A great movie. Watch Blackberry? Okay.

I remember that. Dude. Yeah. Incredible. Have you started Shogun? I started Shogun when I got home. Okay. I'm going to start it after this.

That's my plan. Amazing pilot. Great. Excellent. Hate every white character. Okay. I think that's kind of the idea. Yeah, right.

It's just like, yeah, yes, you are the villains of history, you know? You were always the pieces of shit and here it is. Hey, man, there's a reason that every guy in the empire in Star Wars has a British accent, you know. Legendary Bow moment. Did you visit any museums or anything cool? You visit nerds, which is awesome. Went to Nerds Records. Yeah.

That place is, it's like the American hardcore hub in Tokyo, which is an insane thing. to think about. Because like disc unions across the street and there you can find age of quarrel first press and stuff like I did. Wait, can you talk about the almost mistake you made? Oh, dude, they had to beware the misfits 12 inch, which I saw that and I was like, Papa has struck gold, baby. And I was like, dude, this just sold on discos for like $1,500.

I'm getting a steal. Yeah, because what was it? What was it? And then I realized I was missing. zero from my calculation of what it costs and it costs like 1500 bucks. I was walking to the register. Like,

I did it. So you thought it was, does that mean you thought it was 150? I thought it was $150 and I was like, these fucking jumps don't know what they got. I thought I was a rich man that day and instead I was, they knew what they had. That's the thing is like, you'll eventually, like there's a crown of thorn shirt in disc union from 96 that's $30.

You know, that's, that's where you'll be like, oh, shit, I got something cool. Yeah. But things in the thousand range, they know what they got. If you go to like Shimo Kittazawa, the like actual vintage store area. Yeah. They all know what they got. And it's like all American stuff, which sucks. You know what's funny is there's no, like, T-shirt Slayer exists, but it's not the same as discogs.

No. So it's funny that like a T-shirt can really be worth, it's as much as worth as much as like anyone's willing to pay. It's the same with wrestling belts. No precedent. Oh, really? Yes. Interesting.

They're only worth what somebody's going to pay for, you know? Wow. And then there's a market established by vintage stores and stuff, and it is out of control, as we've seen. But, yeah, it's weird. It's bizarre to just think about what things are worth. It's like Allison Chain's stuff. Dude.

Is, it's crazy. If you find, dirt, like an original pressing of dirt. It's like a $3 to $500 record. It's crazy. Was there one pressing or something? I, dude, I don't know what it was. I think it might be similar to typo.

Like, I got an original bloody kisses, but it was only printed in Europe. There was no U.S. printing of it. Interesting. You know? Maybe only the roadrunner of Europe, the LPs or something. Something like that.

But there's, there's, the two Allison chain shirts, the Allison Wonderland one. Mm-hmm. is always like 1200 bucks wherever you see it the the one we saw the one that's we went to a vintage store and they had it the alice and fucking chains one yes it was like 1500 bucks it's insane who is paying that i have no idea because you don't see him i've never seen someone never see him and whenever i do it's 1500 and maybe that's why yeah right jesus uh went to shibuya

obviously which is you know like times square um it's funny to look around and like trying to And I took, so I got a Fuji film X100V camera. Yes. So I was, and this is like, hard lore taught me how to use that. Yeah, right. I'm sure. Like I've had to become self-sufficient in video enough to make this show for the past two years. That picking that up was like, oh, this is the same philosophy.

Which is really fun. That is cool, yeah. I had a good time taking pictures for the first time at 30. years old. Because it's like saw me a little puzzle every time, you know? It's like, what am I looking at? You can look at it. You look through the viewfinder.

You go, okay, this looks like shit. What do I do to make it not look like shit? And then you twiddle with the things and you learn what they do. Yeah. And then you're like, this doesn't look like shit. Wow. It's a, it's very, very satisfying. Very rewarding.

I like that. Photographers are listening to this shaking their heads. It's like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? Fists to the sky screaming. I went to Shibuya. Times Square. That's where, that's where Nerds is,

which is, like the location is unbelievable. Yeah, that's crazy. I had no idea. All right. It's like one block away from Shibuya Crossing.

Yeah. Wow. It's insane. Went to Shinjuku, which is like Hollywood and Highland type vibe. That's where the Godzilla head is. Yeah. Yeah.

It's where Tokyo Vice, the best show on TV takes place. Are you, are you a fan? I have not started the second season. Oh, dude. Yeah. Oh, I just started the second season.

Okay. It's good. Good. I love the first season. First season is fucking unreal, dude. That's so good. It's so good. Went to, what is it?

Akihabara. The like arcade zone, arcade district. Fucked, yeah. Like the anime zone. Where it's just like, this building is owned by Sega. Dude, the Sega buildings are all something else now. No. Yeah, they were purchased by something called Gigo.

COVID, dude. Get into the gaming oasis. Okay, that's kind of sick. That's kind of dope. I'm trying to gigo for sure, dude. Straight up, 100%. I got to get into that gaming. Dude, the drum game?

You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, the big drum game. That's the best game of all time. It is, there is zero learning. It's not like guitar hero. There's like no learning curve. Hit this. Yeah.

Eventually you'll be able to do it on medium. Eventually you'll be able to do it on hard. Yeah. Don't be surprised if one day we start firing. an episode opens and you just see in the background the full-size cabinet for the drum game. I need it. It's so fun. It's so fucking fun.

Damn. You had a fucking, like for 10 days, you packed in so much. I packed it in. The Kyoto Day was a four-hour round trip on a train and like did it straight from, I think we got there at 9 a.m. hired a guy named Koske, K, to just drive us around all day. And everything's pretty spread out there. Wow.

So we saw one of the oldest shrines in Japan, where they used to do, in the like 1,300s, they did an archery competition. Yeah. For 24 hours. Whoa. And women frequently won. Really?

Yeah, where it was, you have to fire an arrow every 10 seconds for 24 hours. Holy shit. Yeah. And the winner. would get these like crazy ornit paintings. And they had all the paintings up of like every single one, the winners won from the 1300s. It's crazy to think that Europe was experiencing the plague and that's what's going on in

in Kyoto. I think the Spanish flu hit it hard. Oh, okay. Which, that might have been, that might have been way later. Way later, yeah. Way later. But there's one of the like Buddhist deities. So this is, this temple has, is the only temple with a thousand Buddhas in it.

Okay. There's a thousand carved Buddhas that were built by 70 sculptors over 90 years. Holy shit. And they like didn't live. Imagine just being like 17. Yeah, that's your life. Yeah. You know?

Like your, and then your son is born. You teach him to sculpt so he can keep doing it. Oh, wow. Crazy. And you can't take pictures in there. Okay. Unbelievable place. And then they talk about one of the deities that, like,

became popular in Japan during the Spanish flu. Oh. Because she's like the deity of mercy. And they were like, we need some. We need to be saved. Yeah. So like every when you see her, you like rub her or something. Yeah, that place was fucking magical.

Did you experience a cold brew in Kyoto? Okay, dude. Cold brew is not really a thing. It's crazy. It's sad. I told our guide. that Kyoto was invented in cold brew. Say that again.

He was like... Wait, wait, wait. Say what you just said again. I told... Did I say that backwards? That Kyoto was invented in Cold Brew? I told our guide, I was like, do you know a place with good cold brew? And he was like, what the fuck is cold brew?

And I was like, it was invented in Kyoto. And he was like, because he was born and raised in Kyoto. So I think he was psyched to have a new fact. Yeah, the whole... The drip thing is called the Kyoto... styled fuck damn it but in shimo kiddazawa bare pond espresso

yeah one of the greatest cups I've ever had and then in Harajuku went to coffee Mamaya which has no signage whatsoever love it

it's a shack and a neighborhood yeah and you go in and then you're suddenly in like a lab and you only know that it's there because there's line out the door. Beautiful. And there's three guys standing there just like,

what can I, what can I, like offer you? And they want you to take your time and test everything. Really? And there's a hot and a cold version of like almost everything.

There's a, there's a pre-brewed, cold brew version of every beam. Yeah, it's just. And that was great. That was like, like,

like, What are the wine people called? Oh, yeah. Tasting. Yeah, but like what's the thing? Somalia. Somalia. It was like a coffee Somalié experience.

Unbelievable. It was fucked, dude. Were you jacked up? Oh, my God. Yeah, I had two and then got one. Lana was at this place called Kittyland. Yeah. Which is a five-floor toy store that's like you walk in and it's like Calico

critters and stuff. downstairs is called Snoopy World Oh Jesus Christ She lost it down there I lost a fortune Upstairs is Pokemon Ultraman and stuff like that

And then some other stuff So yeah I lost my ass there But brought hers back And she took one step and she was like This is too This is disgusting She's like a latte chick Yeah yeah

Which so am I To be honest I don't discriminate that one too I don't discriminate except for lavender I don't want lavender I don't want that Get flowers out of my beverage Yeah I'm good

You know Give me a chocolate bean Yeah it kind of extends to macha too I'm not huge on macha I don't hate it I didn't do a single I didn't do a single matcha treat Yeah

I won't do it Yeah we don't but dude Zuma said something really wise about tea When we were at dinner Hit me He said he was like, I, coffee, I don't like coffee. Tea is better because even when it's bad, it's just water in a packet where he was like, you can't

fuck up tea. Fucked up coffee is crazy. He said, I don't know if we've stressed enough how fucked up my body is right now or why my eyes are still having black makeup on. No, I was getting, I was going to get to it. I'll talk about your flight home going straight to Jack. Yeah, we'll talk about that. I guess we'll get there.

Yeah. My body is so fucked up. so fucked up, but as a wise man named Zuma once said, I'm entertainer. So here I am. Dude, sweet treats. The fucking, first of all, the cone, the waffle cone sandwich thing at 7-11. That is the perfect packaged treat.

I had one every night. We got home from wherever we're going, hit the 7-11 across the street from the Bia-Sacasa, and ate one into a coma every night. Dude, here's the thing you will not believe. we got there, went to bed at 10 p.m., woke up at 7, zero jet lag ever at all. Are you serious? Getting there, we were locked the fuck in day one. So did you stay up the whole flight?

Like, what was the move? Stayed up the whole flight, which had to. Right. You know? From L.A., that's not impossible. No, it was 12 hours. It's tough. And we left at 5 p.m.

Yeah, that's tough. I can't sleep on planes no matter what. So it wasn't as challenging for me especially because I had vampire survivors. I started Yakuza. I'll tell you what I did. I rewatched the Irishman.

Oh boy. It's fucking awesome, man. I don't. I'm gonna, I need to revisit and try and not focus. I still just hate the bang bang thing and the there's though, but that and the kick

at the grocery store are really the only two things I didn't. You could say are bad about it. Yeah. And you know what? I think it was so jarring at the time. I couldn't. I hyper fixated. Dude,

because the movie is so fucking good. I really liked the Sebastian Manuscalco part. Yes. Pacino as Jimmy Hoffa. Pacino is unreal. And fucking Pesci's amazing. I still wish we got just one three-way conversation between the three of them. I know.

Just a little fan service, you know, but whatever. They're a mono as the lawyer is unbelievable. Yeah. And fucking, I always forget his name. He's an English guy. He plays Capone in Boardwalk Empire. He's in, this is England. He plays the guy in Miami in the Irishman who's late.

Oh, yeah, the guy that beats up Jimmy Hoff and Joe. That guy. He's great in it. He's great in everything. That guy's unbelievable. I forget his name every time. He's super British. All right, I need to revisit.

Yeah. Yeah, but I can't say enough good things about Japan, just the experience overall. And you saw a Coba? I saw. So, yeah, ran into Coba at NERDS. I told him I was going there. They both came. Beautiful.

The way that hardcore has established this thing between cultures and countries around the world is like, it's truly insane that I can go. to the furthest place in the world and text three guys and be like, hey, can I meet you at this record store? And they're like, fuck yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a beautiful thing, man.

I don't, I'm so grateful for music for just giving me that because you tell that to your coworker. Yeah. They're like, or some person around town and they can't believe it. But it's just, that's the standard fair for what we do. Me, your coworker. My coworker, Bo. I was like, what are you talking about?

My last co-worker So when you When you flew home Yeah Were you as locked in? Like jet lag wise? Dude Yeah

Find home is always way harder Way harder Way harder Because you lose the time And you get home Essentially when you left Right You know?

Yeah You just Skip the day So I was awake for like 30 hours by the time I should have gone I went to bed first night dude I was home for one night

you know yeah um went to bed at 9 p.m. woke up at 7 a.m. I was like I'm back I did it I've done it I achieved the impossible yeah went to the gym had twitching tongues practice

went hiking whoa 10 p.m. hit I'm wired oh shit I got a I got a fifth wind. I'm fucked. My modem suddenly dies. No.

I'm leaving town the next day. My wife has work. Yeah. I've got to get. It is unbelievable how much society has to rely on just having internet at this point. Dude. And how little you can do when it doesn't work. When it goes out, they can't help you at night.

And then the next day they send a guy who's like, yeah, this is a bigger problem. It's going to take two weeks to fix. So here we are hoping that my fucking internet doesn't go out. Oh shit. Okay. It's a miracle that hasn't. Okay. Cool.

And then I have a flight the next morning. I don't sleep. I haven't really slept yet before and since getting home from Japan the one night. That one good night of sleep, that was your in the air sleep. It was. You're behind. Which is fake. Yeah.

I'm two days of sleep behind. Behind. You're trailing an airplane right now. It's the same thing that happened to me in the UK. we were there. Remember, I slept the one night. Yeah. Too good. I went to bed at like 10 p.m. the one night in the UK woke up at 2 p.m. And I was even more fucked. Traveling. I don't know how to do it. It's, it's, you know, I can't even, what can I say? I still have nightmares about when I over slept when we were in England. That was crazy. The other day, I had a nightmare about it. Literally, while you were in Japan,

And I had a nightmare about oversleeping and you were waiting on waiting on me. Turned over and looked at my clock and he was like 7.45 in the morning. And I and we weren't working. No, I'm home. I'm totally home alone. I woke up, looked at the clock and I literally this loud. I went, went back to sleep. A miracle.

A bonus miracle. My God. Yeah, I don't like that. That was a. Yeah, I know. That was awesome. Hasn't happened since. Hasn't happened since.

You've been a good boy. And then you, I will say, people don't, you get ready so fast. Dude, I can get ready. I can get showered and ready in 15 minutes. It's pretty, it's pretty unbelievable. No problem. You rally like nobody I've ever seen before. Whereas traveling with Mike Cesario, the man needs, he goes, five more minutes, five more minutes.

And then 15 minutes go by. But it's, that's the best. Tell me about jazz. So went to Jag yesterday, which is just another gig festival in Tacoma, which is the, the, their replacement. So Rainfest was top three fest in the country as it was going on, you know? Yeah. It was the Northwest's preeminent hardcore festival to the point where it was like, damn, maybe we shouldn't tour there just in case we play Rainfest. So I think in some ways

A festival can hurt certain regions Definitely, dude And I think since Rainfest has gone away Northwest has gotten so Strong on its own Like their scene is thriving Because of their bands Absolutely, yeah

And that's always Always always the best thing Texas it's always the same Florida is always the same That's exactly what I was going to say The places where it's hard to get to Yeah. They lean on each other and they start all these bands together and they go off for each other's bands.

Yeah. Yeah. Big time. And that, dude, that always gets me. Because California is so, kind of neglects its own bands at first. Like a young California band will take a long time to get over. Sometimes never does. But like California will hear like, oh, this band from Massachusetts is coming, 600 tickets sold.

Yeah, of course. Which is nice because it's like, oh, they're not from here. We've got to support them. Meanwhile, there's a show every night. And that's maybe the problem. Not dissimilar from Chicago at all until very recently. Right. The new, like within the last couple of years, really post-COVID, boy.

When I go to shows, like, I don't, I am the oldest guy there, except for like Shane, like, who booked the show. Which is both a bad feeling and the best feeling ever. Yeah, fully agree, 100%. Of like, I'm so glad this many. people are here. And what was nice was seeing people I recognized from Rainfest at Jag was like, oh, these are the people that have been coming the whole time. And a sea of people I've never seen before. Yeah. Really cool. They've got a really special thing going. I was killing time. That's the best band ever. They're the best band ever. That's the best band of all time. And that's

one of their first out of state things, no? Because dude didn't want to fly. I guess, yeah. Like that was what I heard. So that's really special. It's kind of crazy. Yeah. And then more importantly, how are the jokers? How'd my boys do? Oh, they killed it.

I got, we got there. We flew day up because it was like, guys, I cannot. Yeah, I can't go the night before. I can't. I physically can't get in a day early. Like, I literally couldn't. Got in, drove straight to the show, got there pretty much as they started. Oh, nice.

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back to the episode hey beau wow that was a good holy shit I'm tired it's good Jag was incredible so Jag we played at the exact same time as Sting's last match ever

I could not believe that I texted Colin, hey, the hoodie looks good. He said, thanks. I said, the montage before Sting's match just killed me. And all he sent me back was this picture. And I immediately, and then he said, about to play, immediately understood the predicament. Couldn't believe you had to do that.

The fact that, I mean, it was sad to miss it, you know, in real time. Yeah. He's my favorite wrestler of all time. It's something I've been preaching for years now, that he's the goat. Yeah. You might be truly one of the only people. Who the whole time has been going.

Who the whole time has always been championing Sting, actually. Sting's been my guy, man. So in a, so let me, let me ask you, try to be as objective as you can and not, not stick to your favor from childhood because I get that. Sure. Undertaker Sting. Sting. Can you get me three reasons.

why. Absolutely. I think Stings transformation story-wise was one of the greatest wrestling stories ever told. Because it was, I don't need WCW. It was, it was you think I've betrayed this thing I've been loyal to this whole time.

Right. And then, so in the war games match, he's supposed to be in it. He comes in, death drops, everybody leaves. Says, fuck you. You question my loyalty Then you like you don't deserve me Yeah And that's when he starts going to the rafters

Oh 18 months 18 months dude Guy doesn't wrestle Selling out arenas by staring out from rafters Unbelievable And that was when I was like When I was a boy I was like Stings my favorite

Yeah You know what I mean like that got me I was fully in I mean if the crow is obviously a childhood favorite of both of ours. And seeing a wrestler who is dressed like the crow but acting like Batman, wow. There's nothing ever in entertainment history as cool as that.

Okay, I'll count that as two points. That's great. You know? Also, the move set, the swagger. I mean, even before Crow Sting, yeah, yeah, yeah. Supersting was so the guy. So cool.

So cool. I think fucking bomber jacket sting. Unreal. Having the wherewithal to like stay covered up wear your t-shirt, you know, like not look like Rick Flair. Yeah.

To like you still look fucking menacing and cool. Come on. Which I think. Yeah. And I might be wrong here, but I think bomber jacket sting was at the very least encouraged by, if not a Brody King idea.

He, when I tweeted about it, He told me that I think it was his idea and Emily did the makeup at the time. So there you go. And Emily is one of Emily Blevelt. Yes. The wife of Borda King, one of the only other people to do Sting's face paint ever. Really?

He did it himself his entire career. That's so fucking sick. Which I was so inspired by that I tried to do it myself. Yeah. Dog shit. The worst thing you ever seen. It looks pretty good. No, I didn't do that.

I didn't do that one. Oh, who did that? Sabrina. Sabrina the pigeon, gave the pigeon's lovely girlfriend. She killed it. I saw her makeup and I said, you look like you're good at makeup. You want to do something for me?

That's awesome. I will say another thing that he has, that taker doesn't, is like being that age and that late in your career and listening to the younger people of like, oh, I should do that. Yeah, that sounds good. And not only that,

not only listening, but like listening to what the audience likes and adapting. Yeah. Doing these, he does the past all 30 matches in his career other than the glass thing last night. Yeah. He had the craziest moment in every match.

Yes. He did something where it was like, that was the craziest. How old is this guy? How old is this guy? Yeah. Also, one final point, he doesn't have a fucking crown jewel match.

He doesn't. doesn't have a Roman Rains or a Goldberg match. You know what I mean? He went out. He didn't take the blood money. Yeah, and there's no like flop.

Like there's no, he got hurt with Seth Rollins and then left. And then it was like, oh, you're not going to let me go. Okay. You're going to let me wrestle. I'm going to find a way.

Yeah, I'm going to find a way. So I think I might be convinced. I think Taker is like a little more flashy and immediate. Yeah. For me, you know?

Taker has some of the greatest matches ever. He's one of the greatest characters ever. Yeah. I'm not really going to argue if somebody is like, I like Undertaker more. I think it's better. Yeah. Because I get it. Yeah.

You know, they served similar purposes in opposite companies. I liked Singh's presentation more. And obviously, he's the best guy ever. Yeah, right. Neri a bad word to say. bottom from anyone. Yep. That's pretty...

Those say to Colin from Sting. It's right there. Yeah, pretty amazing. Thank you, Brady. Thank you, Brady. Thank you, buddy. So that's my favorite wrestler, so I pay tribute to him in my own little way.

Came out to his music, his OG, Crowth theme. Do you know about his entrance yet last night? No, I've only seen a little clip of the movie. Oh, okay. Perfect.

I'm not going to say a word. Which looked amazing. I want you to... Here's a little hard lore for you. Yes. Listen to the Crow Sting theme and listen to a little song called This Harmony. And you tell me what you hear. Anyway, the Jags set was incredible, had the best time,

haven't played Seattle since Bain's first last tour. The first time Bain did a last tour was the last time we played Seattle. The calculation meme right now. They're back now, but the first time that it was the last time was when we last played there. and it kind of sucked. But this set was like, it felt like, it was like,

finally, you know? Yeah, yeah. It felt like everybody that's already seen us and been there the whole time going, no, we like this band and all the new people

that really getting it. It was very special. I appreciate Zach and everybody else involved for having us, again, really proud of them for this thing they put together. Got a little viral moment going around out of it. Oh,

that's that's the promo. of the show. That's the promoter of the show doing like the gnarliest stage dive. The coolest dive possible. Loving that. I think I'm cursed a little bit in the microphone department. The same thing happened as F.A. Like,

I pick up the microphone. I say something. Somebody goes across. My cord gets ripped out. Dude, tape that motherfucker like Roger Daltry. I know. I got, I think it's the mic that I use.

Oh, maybe it doesn't catch. I don't think it catches well. Tape it. Yeah. I think I'm just going to start. go back to a 58. Go back to a 58.

Yeah, for sure. Because the 58s can take the beating, the hardcore beating that I don't think any other mic is designed to take. Dude, you ever, like, you ever look at like the house mics at Gilman?

And they're just like flat. They're flat. They're disgusting. They look like a human brain and somehow sound. They sound perfect. Yeah, of course. There's a couple of mics in the world.

I'm going to try out soon. We'll see if they'll get them to give them to me. If you know what I'm saying. But, yeah, I think I'm cursed there. I had mic problems the whole set. And there's just a guy running around on stage,

like fixing things the whole time, which is the worst. That's the worst. But they're trying and it's like you can't get mad at them, but then they hand you a microphone and then you sing it to it and you don't hear anything. And what can you do? Yeah.

I mean, hey, that's Jollywood, baby. That's show this. But then the people keep going off and then you don't really care. And then... That's kind of a unique thing about hardcore too. I know we've kind of brushed upon, but it's like, it's like with cruelty at Sodom Fury when he was having issues and Michael was like, hey, and like told people like,

this is why this is important. There's a universal understanding of like, they might, that band might not be having a good time. We have to save them. Yeah. And they always do. Normie, yeah, Normies go to a show and there's like a problem and it's like, um.

That band sucked. They have a problem. I hate that. And then you just got home from the trip from that show. I got home like three hours ago. Oh, my God. This man. I haven't rested yet.

I don't think I can for quite a while. I got to get this out. What? But so to answer anyone's questions, that's why it looks like Colin has eye lider on. Yeah, I line around. Sting. That was doing sting.

Well, while you were away, you know, I did some traveling. Where'd you go? I had a noodle or two, you know. Did you? foreign, I can do exotic things here. No, I didn't, I didn't go anywhere. I didn't do anything. I saw Lamb of God and Pantera in Green Bay.

It was genuinely awesome. Lamma God was like fucking sick. And Pantera did everything you want. Really? So they didn't, I'll just say they did not play Suicide No part one, but they did two. Rocks. They did not play all of them. domination, but they did the breakdown, like on the live record.

Did the breakdown, right. And they didn't touch cemetery gates in any way. That's the only one where I was like, ah, really? No, they didn't even, like, not even a montage or anything. No cemetery gates. But they played floods all the way. Yeah, that's wild. They played.

Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow. That's one of the best breakdowns of all time. And I'll say this. Obviously, anyone who would be going to that would know that Zach was going to kill it. He was like always the guy. Like there are videos of him walking on stage with a dog giving the leash to Dimebag. Dimebag gives Zach his guitar and he rips a solo. Like he was always the guy.

Yeah. The chosen one. He played every. Because like the cool thing about Pantara to me is like all of Dimebag's solos, you can hum. They're that memorable that you know. all the parts. He played them all. Pitch perfect. He didn't, he didn't squib a note. Right. The only thing he didn't do, and this is just me being a dime bag fanboy, is during the walk solo, there's the dude, do it and do dead and do dead and dead and d'n, be, or either. Dimebag uses

two different hands to do the brr. And he didn't do that. He didn't do that. Oh, he just did one. He just did brr-r-r-r-r-r-r-ch. I mean, there's a certain sauce that those brothers had. Like Vinny, with his kick drum, dude, could lead with both feet. Oh, really? That's how the becoming intro thing is possible. Because it goes,

which requires right, left, right. Oh. To lead. So it's like such a fucked up pattern. even doing it right now is like dude primal concrete sledge doing just counting but how is that good how is that good

on your on your essentially your first LP like how the fuck did you do that? I don't know man but yeah how did they do any of that? That was awesome. It was hilarious because it was in northern Wisconsin it was a room of the most polite, drunk, heshire metal. Assuredly, like, you know, sketchy. That's shocking.

And they were all just like, oh, sorry about that. But, like, everyone was so fucking nice. Everyone was so cool. So that was cool. Sorry about that, pal. See Kyle. Yeah. Jesus Christ.

Just absolutely, without a doubt, some of the worst people in history attending that. respectfully, that's crazy. But yeah, but nary a problem. Wow. That's shocking. It was wild. But that's Wisconsin.

They're the most polite. Except for when the, when the Packers are playing, huh? Yeah, apparently. Then they become animals. Football bow is starting this year. It's that era. You're into bow now?

You're into football? I'm really into bow now. Dude, I love Sleepy Colin. This is amazing. I'm so tired. You want to hit the Discord? You want to hit some questions? Yeah, we got some questions here.

Before we do that, I mean, I guarantee somebody in here We'll probably ask about sweet treats And then I can go into detail about the sweet potato creme brule Oh, Jesus, I forgot I can't believe I forgot The same place made the Ube The shredded like spaghetti Ube thing over ice cream Yes

And that is the craziest thing I've ever eaten It's fucked up The place is unbelievable All right we got we got questions from the Discord here Join the Discord if you haven't already

Join it We're like 105 people away from 3,000 members Wow And this is where we do this This is where we do this It's and moving forward I'm predicting by the end of this year It's going to be real important

So you're going to want to get in there It'll be really important I think within the next month When the Patreon starts That'll still I mean this thing What we're doing right now The Q&A stuff

will be happening kind of exclusive on Patreon. And it'll be all Discord based. This first question, top three best qualities about each other. You want to go first,

Beau? That's so nice. I'm going to clip this whole thing and play it to you when I piss you off. Let's see. Colin, you're a fucking

ever-flowing spring. Like an ever-flowing stream, some may say, of creativity. Like you, the ideas that come out of you, in your various outlets are actually it's like inspiring. It's intimidating.

But yeah, just the way that like you're always able to put out music for various bands, merch for various bands, merch for this, like whatever. Like it's the amount of plates you got going is crazy. Too damn many. You love, even during a high stress moment, you can have a laugh. I admire that in anyone.

I think that's a really important thing. It's important to me personally. and you are just such a good dad to your pups. Oh, that's fair. I admire that in a person too. You know what's funny is I don't like talk about them all the time, which is interesting because they're pretty... Not on the show. No, but they're pretty much like the only thing I think about, you know?

Yeah. Like my life revolves around them and I barely talk about them. That's private, you know? Yeah, that's... Yeah. I love those fuckers. Bo. Bo, you...

This is so uncomfortable immediately. No, it's great. You're going to have to listen. Like I said earlier, when we're out and about and we're traveling and stuff, everything is kind of just happening when it's happening. We have no idea what we're going to do.

And you're always just like, okay, sounds good. If there's ever a problem, it's okay, sounds good, whatever works. very easy to work with and it's things like this where we can sit here and talk for two hours and then we rap and go man that was easy yeah and then in the comments it'll be like best episode yeah yeah that always feels good because that's just us and that's what's better than that this is very good what else do i like about low um every time Every single time I've said, Bo, would you try this ranch or this mayonnaise again just to see if you like it?

You always say yes. I know you don't like it. I know you won't like it. And you always do it just because you want me to be happy. I also, I respect food. I respect the chemistry that is making a bite, you know? Of course. I want to try what is intended.

I really, truly, I want to like everything, but some things you just don't like. I also think you are highly intelligent in a way that I am not. Your historical anecdotes that come out are always at such unbelievable timings when I'm like, I want to know more about this thing. You're like, ding!

Actually, Paul Revere was kind of a scumbag. It's true. He died a drunk. He died penniless as a drunk. That is true. What are the odds? That is 100% true. So yeah, that's fun. That's good stuff.

That's good stuff. Favorite food you tried in Japan? There it is. It is. Look at the second question. The pancake was fucked. It was unbelievable. Look at these photos I took.

God, they're so fluffy. They're so fluffy. And then the sweet potato crumberle was like, me and Brittany would get back to the hotel every day and be like, okay, tomorrow we got to go back and, and like, people would be trying to plan stuff and we'd be like, hang on. We need the sweet potato cromberlay before we can do any of that. How many of them did you eat total?

I ate three. Okay. So describe, so you had the crack of the sugar. I saw the video. The sweet potato crom relay is they grow these sweet potatoes just for this. Okay. So they're sweetened from the moment they're grown.

They're like fertilized sweet. So that when they bake them, the custard and the sugar aside, you get into the potato itself with the custard and it's sweet too. So you peel off the skin and it's sweet too. So you're actually eating, it's not just used for the shell. You're actually eating. You're carving that some bitch. Wow.

Crazy, dude. Wow. Because like, you know, sometimes you'll go to a steakhouse and you'll get a baked potato and it'll be like a twice baked potato. And you can kind of tell that this shell was from like a few days ago. But the mix was made maybe more recently. Give me the cheese and the innards and then I'm getting out of there. Yeah.

With this sweet potato cumberlay thing, you could straight up. You could just eat it. You could eat it whole. That was probably the best thing. And the pancakes. Pancakes were crazy. Crazy that it was sweet treats in a place that I wouldn't automatically associate with sweet. Because the country is so fatphobic that you wouldn't think that.

But there's sweet treats everywhere all the time and they're all good. It sucks. It's a perfect place. It's the best place ever. The fucking coffee vending machines on every corner. Oh, dude, we didn't even talk about the warm vending machines. Yeah, the boss rainbow.

It was 35 degrees out the whole time. So I'm freezing my nuts off, pouring rain, drinking a hot cup of coffee every corner of every street. Yeah, yeah. Also, the fucking lack of trash cans there is pretty brutal. There's also not a paper towel in sight. Really? Bathrooms all have the,

electric dryers, which at first was frustrating, you know? Yeah. And in America, when a place doesn't have favorite towels, it's kind of like, buddy, you're not saving anything with this electric dryer. I'm going to use your napkins. But Japan universally getting rid of them, like has reduced waste. That has made a like crazy impact on the world. waste and just the like ecological waste issue in Japan so when they do something they're like yeah we're going to completely change this

and it's going to work. Yeah right they don't just ban straws. No. And they're psycho about separating recycling and trash. Right. And you're like what we learned eventually was that you should kind of carry a tote bag and carry your own trash

for your own trash. Yeah. And that's and that's it's funny because Mac tweeted about it and I responded and it was like, yeah, you carry it with your shame. Like, that's it. 100%, which you have raised. I'm big and greedy. So I'm the whole time I'm sucking down drinks every corner. Pissing myself left and right, drinking Percari sweat all the time, carrying three to four bottles at all times.

Like a scumbach. Like it is kind of, I don't know. They could have every major intersection could definitely have a nice. Put a fucking trash can. Put a garbage. But also. Come on. When you get rid of it like that, it actually does something.

So where would you get rid of it? The hotel. The hotel. It's like that's the thing is you are supposed to discard your waste personally. Like it's your waste. It's pretty impressive. It is. It's going somewhere.

The whole country is impressive. And that's the craziest thing because like we nuke them twice. Yeah. Yeah. And their society smokes our. everything about it walking around everybody is so respectful like we never had an issue anywhere for any second and they're so understanding

did you ever feel unsafe even for a moment? Never for a second and it's like you're in one of the largest metropolis is on the planet on the planet like one of the main ultimate travel destinations in the world and they are so psyched to have you there or so you think I think the number one destination is Paris in which there are many places They fucking hate you.

And I wouldn't want to walk alone. No, no. It's like not a safe place. Yeah. You know? Not so in Tokyo. Tokyo is the goat. I got to go.

I got to go back. Let's see. When will Harm's Way re-release the Fourth Crusade Rip? That's a funny question. Oh, that is a funny question. Never. So get you one.

I have a medium. If whoever asked that is a medium, let me know. Somebody gave it to me in St. Louis recently. I can't wear it. Yeah, they got, uh, You know what I'm talking about? We were asked not to sell it and to donate any money made from it, which we did.

And we respectfully, like, stop selling it. Yeah. That's really all I want to say. Which is really interesting to me when they were really supportive of in love, there's no law. Which is like. That just took the title. I changed one word. took the title.

Yeah. And they were like, that's awesome, lads. Good on you. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe,

I mean, to their credit, they are always like, they're infamously. DIY. Very DIY would destroy merch after tours that wasn't purchased so that it couldn't be scalped and resold. Fucking,

when was the last tour that they did? 2013? Shirts were $10. Shirts were $10 and $15. Depending on, color waste and stuff. So like to their credit, they're protecting something. Yeah. I fully, I have no issue. I just think in metal there's like Tom Gabriel Warrior from Celtic Frost had the whole thing, had a meltdown when cruelty did a Celtic Frost trip. They think that ripoffs are

plagiarism. Right. Right. It's the highest honor. The highest. It's weird. It's the utmost respect. It's truly the utmost respect. Yeah. We also did that. There were four UK dates. The first outbreak was one of them. On that tour where we had that shirt and we introed with the Fourth Crusade intro. Out of pure fucking love. So, but, you know, hey, we're respectful young men and we did what was asked and so be it. I've made my peace with it.

Good. And was in the fucking pit in 2013 when they played here. Oh, my God. Who fucking cares. That's the best live set I've ever seen. UK Twitch and Tongue shows when Don't know

We were asked about one And Communications fell apart I'm sure it'll happen Within the next year or so Three Top three ways to get out of your head

When it comes crashing down And it hurts inside That's funny Top three What do you do when you're stressed, Colin. You go to the gym, I know. That and I just try to like compartmentalize all the things I'm stressed about.

Generally when I'm stressed, it's because of like two things I have to do at the same time. Yes, right. Which as- Scheduling conflicts overbooking yourself is like, it's a nightmare. The Kalesan syndrome, I call it. Unreal, dude. I generally just focus.

us on the most realistic one, and it's generally this show, and do it, work really hard, sacrifice some sleep, uh, uh, uh, yeah, suffer. Yeah, I suffer. You do to top three ways to get out of your head when he comes crashing down at Hirstenside. Suffer for a while. Yeah. And then you won't have to. Um, I go to the gym. I clean. I clean a lot. I like, like to clean. And I have to move soon. So I've started like decluttering, which has been feeling really good. Um, but I've, dude, I've turned into a nighttime gym guy. Like it's a, it's nine 35 in the evening tonight. As soon as we wrap and I send you everything, I'm going straight to the gym. There's two people in there. It's a that's one of the great perks of living alone, I think, right?

Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. It's like, you're on your own schedule. To do whatever I want. It's the best. Also, one of the best things to get out of your head, binge eat. Oh, dude. The goat. On this meal thing that I'm doing with the program, I get two cheap meals a week. Which is actually really nice because I can really like just hyper focus on the one. And the other day I had a Lou Melnottis. That sounds so good, dude.

It was, oh, my uncle Lou. Yeah, sounds amazing. Eat. Eat. Eat. Then go to the gym. Best zero sugar soda, not diet. What the fuck?

Oh, like zero. Oh, so not Diet Coke, which is how I would be a prick about that and be like, well, actually, I like that. Coke zero is fucking. Dr. Pepper Zero. Oh. Sprite zero. And Coke zero. And Dr. Pepper Cream Soda zero.

Is it Diet Baja Blast or is it Baja Blast zero? I think it's zero. I think it is too. I think it is too. Dude, have you had the crispinata? No. It's an empanata that is the crispiest little thing with chicken and cheese in it. From Taco Bell?

Yeah, I bet we have it here. And I know they have it in Wisconsin. They've been gone a while. Yeah. Dude, they're like two bucks. They come with like a, oh, they're fucking crazy. I've been completely disconnected from reality for the past two weeks. I've just been really excited to get home and listen to my favorite rappers,

P. Diddy and meek Mill and just really, really move on and just get reconnected with American culture. Yeah. Harmsway non-fest shows went so soon, right? Yeah, well, a lot this year. So a lot. So just stay tuned. How small were the bathrooms over there in Japan? Small bathrooms.

You're a big guy. Did you run into any size issues? A few things. Yeah, there was a, there's a train, one of the train crossings that we had to go to. Yeah. It's literally like a three foot thing. You have to like crawl under to get to. What?

I don't understand it. I don't understand it. I think you could go around, but it's just like a shortcut where you can just crawl under this thing. Did Lana just walk straight? She walked straight. Just like with a book on her head straight through. I didn't feel claustphobic in bathrooms at all. Good.

If anything, they're all single stall, spacious bidets everywhere. Yeah, that's the best. The days at Disneyland, dude. Yeah. It's the best. It's the most confusing place too because there will be in the same public or, you know, semi-public restroom. There's going to be the most advanced bidet and warm toilet you've ever seen.

and then a squat hole. Well, the squat holes are kind of gone in Tokyo. I think maybe the only time I've run into the squat hole was in Osaka and Nagoya, I think. I remember the main venue in Osaka for a while had the squat hole. And that's why now on every toilet, there's a little warning sign of like there's instructions on how to sit on the toilet. Because it's for probably either really rural or elderly people. 100%. I was like, no, don't stand on it.

Yeah, don't stand on it. You have to sit like this. It's written on every single public bathroom. Wow. Pretty amazing. I didn't even ask, did Lana and everybody's first time, did they have a fun time? Oh, they, I mean, I've told everybody the whole time. Like, you're never going to want to do anything ever again.

That's pretty much the consensus. Beautiful. Except for Mac, who's a fucker. And he's like, yeah, I want to go somewhere else before I come back. Whereas me, I've, like, I found the thing I like to do. found the place I like to go to. I do want to go to Korea. Oh, dude. Soll would be amazing. I want to do that. You said that about Mac. Like literally the second you're like, yeah, I want to go someplace else in a huge thunder bolt, like bolt of a, or a rolling thunder. Just

clasped next thing. Max. Mac. Um, top three albums released before 1980. Oh, good. That's fun. Question. All right. Well, Cough Cool came out in 1978. uh misfits the best band ever black sabbath yeah black sabbath which record self-titled yeah for 198 i would say zeppelin two any any of the first four lead zeppelin records when was genesis wind wind and withering oh 76 dude who just made it that's one who's next was in the 70s i might say that that's a good yeah that makes sense you know what dude how crazy Crazy is Bob O'Reilly. The funny thing about Bob O'Reilly.

Are you sick of it? No. Dude, when they fucking played it, when I went with my mom and they played it, I lost my mind. Like, that song hits. It's insane. When the drum fill, do you got a kum, jacca-dac-d-dun. And the funny thing about it is it's a four-court song. You know, it's just like a pop song.

Yeah, but they found the magic. He found it. The tones and everything. is it called Boba O'Reilly? It's, it's, it's, it's, Bob O'Reilly is a, like, a limerick. It's like an old, like traditional. That's why there's like a violin piece at the end.

Yeah, kind of, kind of. Okay. Wait, when was Abba Super Trooper? Because that would be. I feel like that's 70s. 1980. Fuck. Fuck.

Uh, let's see. What is the first police record or regatta? Top three. Knowing me, I would go up Sabbath record, of Zeppelin record. in a Who record. I would say Black Sabbath, Abby Road. When was off the wall?

79. Off the wall. Oh, damn. Good call. Yeah. You know what's so funny? You mentioned the Beatles, but different albums and era entirely. I was at coffee shop today.

And they normally play very smooth, you know, fucking, like the most indie indie, really low-fi, very soft, you know. I want to hold your hand, came on. Banger, dude. Dude, obvious, obvious. Rocking ass song. Dude, it's like when you're used to something for like an hour and then that comes on, it's like abrasive. Yeah.

To the point where I can't imagine being like an old guy at that time. I mean, it was like extreme music. It was, it was. The America was protesting it. Yeah. Like it was it was as if an evil entity was entering the country, like a foreign invader. The British. Paul Revere.

I know. It was crazy. Beetle man. Yeah. It was extreme music. I love it. It was pop music and it was extreme music. It's bizarre.

They were banned for seven years. It's like the 90s. Dude, that is one of the craziest facts about the Beatles is that they were a band for seven. Seven years changed every genre. And they only toured for like four. Yeah, they stopped playing music because it's just,

they was unsustainable. And then they started again and they were like, this is kind of fun. And then they were like, this is fucked out. We got to stop. Yeah. I'm excited.

I'm really curious to see what the, the like four-part biopic thing is going to be like. You know what that? No. All I know is the one that just came out. So the dude that directed 1917 is going to do a movie about each one. Is it fictional?

Yeah. No, yeah, like an actual movie, not a documentary. Whoa. So that could be good. Wow. The George movie is going to be. Dude, he's the fucking goat, dude. He's number one.

Rank your Beatles. George. Yep. Now, this one's tough, but I think there's a clear winner. In terms of just as a guy or sheer musical output? Both. It's got to be both. I mean, it's got to be Paul then.

Yeah, 100%. George, Paul, Ringo. Really? You put, is that the drummer in you putting Ringo over? I think I would go. Dude, Ringo seems like the coolest guy. He does 100%. The fact that he was on fucking Charlie and the tank engine,

he's in pop star. Yeah. You know? What a guy. And he's hilarious in it. Yeah. He says the line where he's like, it's after Connor does the gay rights song.

He's writing a song for gay marriage. You know, like it's not allowed. It's allowed now. It's good. It's a great movie ever made. But dude, fucking the first record that George puts out is a triple

LP. Of every song they've ever rejected just being like, listen how fucking good these are. And there's some of the best songs ever ever written in music on that. It's unbelievable. It's fucking crazy. If you were to start a fast food mascot fight club, who would you choose and why?

Hamburgerger. You think hamburger is taking it over the Burger King? The King has people doing his dirty work. Yeah, but there's a he got it. It's like King Pins. He got there somehow. I think he was born into it. It's a monarchy.

What are other fast food? Or it's a patriarchy. Wendy's getting. Maybe Wendy knows some fucking. Wendy, my grandpa was Wendy's personal trainer for some time. Wait, wait,

wait, Wendy's a real person. And my grandfather was her personal trainer for some time. Personal trainers existed that long ago? Well, no, Wendy's not that old. Dave Thomas,

Wendy is Dave Thomas's daughter. Oh, really? Dave Thomas named it after his daughter, Wendy. And my grandfather was her. personal trainer. My grandpa's like 5'2 and fucking jacked.

Really? Which side? Mom's side. Mom's side. Baldest man you've ever seen. Which is why it's coming. Wow. I don't know. I think Hamburglers, you know, he's done time. He's done time. He's hardened. He's battle-hardened.

But you know who I bet they would all want to fuck up is the fucking mayor. The burger mayor. Yeah, absolutely. That's a scumbag. Total fucking bureaucrat P-jack in the box, he's a suit. You know? Yeah. Grimmis could probably fuck somebody up.

Dude, Grimis will take you, dude, there's an amazing, Habib quote. Grimis will take you into some deep waters, dude. 100%. He'll take you into deep water

and make you learn things about yourself. Dude, those Quiznos puppets, the freaks. Freaky little fucks. Those are scared anybody. Equinto sobs. Put them in Smash Bros. Bros.

It's like ice climbers. Now entering the battlefield. Freaky little fox. What are other fast food mascots? Taco Bell doesn't really have one. They have the dog. They have the racist chihuahua for a while. Chick-fil-A doesn't have one.

It's like the cows. Or the GOP. Yeah. They have the Westboro Baptist Church is fighting on behalf of Chick-fil-A. Oh, Jesus. I pick the hamburgers. He's my captain. I'm going to fuck him up, dude.

Dude, no fucking way, dude. Thoughts on cosmic bowling. I'm for it. Oh, fun anecdote. Over the weekend, there was a fundraiser for Shane and Empire Productions in Chicago. Shane is going to acquire and procure a DIY space for Chicago Hardcore.

Incredibly. For Chicago Hardcore, metal and, you know, all the adjacent relevant scenes. The fundraiser was in the fireside, which I've talked about a thousand times. Yeah. I didn't bowl personally.

I just wasn't in the mood, but there was bowling, there was food, there was a silent raffle. I won a planet of attack shirt, which was like an early Chicago hardcore band. John Caution played drums. And on the back of it says,

Bomb Worker Park, which is where I live. So I had to get it. It was designed by A. Ross, who was also in. of attack and played with harm's way bunch and i got a sick it's over there i can't really reach it but i got a sick the second killer lp is like this like fantasy looking um map for all who wander are not lost and i got a print of it one of one is seven five went to the band one went to clint

and then there was one extra i got the extra went to went to a good home they also dude he had a it was a fifth pressing which made me kind of back off the ledge a little bit fifth pressing test press satisfaction is the death of desire. Fifth pressing. But fifth pressing. Yeah. Well, that might be when they had to take the sample out. If there was a test press.

But for fifth pressing? Because they had the samples on there for quite some time. Is there not a test press for every pressing? No, there's not. Right. Because they just use the same plate. So there's a reason a fifth pressing test press would need to be made. Why would it be fifth?

Oh, because it had been pressed four previous times on the same plate. And then the, I see. interesting, which is kind of cool. That's still kind of unique. Someone got it for like 200 bucks. But why aren't there shows at the fireside? The guy who runs it's still the same guy who always did them. The same guy has owned the fire site for the last fucking 30 years.

Straight up doesn't like people. That's it. Yeah, but it's a business. It's a bowling alley. And like they and they've stayed in business not doing. doing shows, so they do good enough. Okay. It's a bar, too, so there's that.

They just don't need to do shows, basically. They don't need the hassle. What's so funny is, no, they do. They definitely do. I was told about a face-to-face show there. The cap, I think, was eventually shrunk to like 400. There was a face-to-face show there before Fire Marshals got called and shit were 900 people paid.

There were people to the, were the, the pin reset things are like the end of the Alex. Wow. People back to there for this show. That's pretty cool. So they definitely need it, but whatever. The guy just doesn't, he doesn't want it. Okay.

But raised a bunch of money for Shane and it was cool. It was a lot of fun. That's amazing. Well, I can't wait to see what that turns into. Yeah, me too. Because is every like Cobra Lounge Sub T who owns those? Beat Kitchen.

Bee Kitchen and Sub T are the same. I don't know who owns it. Cobra Lounge, I know, has a connection to Riot Fest. So, for example, for those of you who may not know when the Rumble happens every year, which is, it's in July of this year, announcement coming soon.

The Fest is in the parking lot outside. The PA, the stage, the light, everything was paid for and donated by Riot Fest. Oh, that's awesome. Which is fucking sick. Like, that's a really cool thing. thing, Riot Fest, to my knowledge, might be a long, it might be the biggest non, like, owned by Live Nation, whatever fest of Pochrock.

Because Coachella is straight up Golden Voice, which is Aege, which is, what's Psycho Vegas? That one might be, that one might be cool. So it might be that, it might be that in like Riot Fest, you know. So the fact that there's no values fest that just got announced is, is gold, Golden Voice. It's the same company that brings you Coachella. A.EG, a multi-billion dollar corporation making a punk fest called No Values. Anyway. Have you two become closer as friends because of Hardlore? Of course. Yeah, definitely.

Like 100%. Definitely. We were always, it was funny. Colin and I got put together in a, I don't know if you remember this. We got put together in a group chat over the authenticity of a typo negative shirt once. Interesting. Forever ago. Maybe before the tour? Before the tour.

Yeah, a few years before the tour. Wow. And then the tour, I would say we became friends. We would always see each other say what's up. We didn't, we wouldn't talk all that much. It became kind of a, like a COVID thing. Yeah, 100%. It was when we were like started talking more often than this came out of that.

Because you started streaming and it was like this. Well, obviously us touring together was where we, actually became close. And then we toured together again and we got even closer. Talked all the time. And then the tech, we would just zoom. We would just do literally this and talk about streaming and tech stuff and just

cameras and microphones and whatnot. And then we were doing D&D. Yeah. Yeah, D&D. That's right. For several weeks and that was cool. That's still a thing I would kind of like to do. That's a Patreon thing.

That's a Patreon. That's a Patreon gimmick. Easy. Love it. sold. Yeah. Easy. Yeah, absolutely.

Ben, definitely. Definitely. I mean, we're fucking attached to the hip forever because of this thing, you know? So, of course. Y'all doing anything special for LDB would love to meet you guys. We'll definitely be around. Yeah, we got to talk about that still. We literally talked for 20 minutes before we started recording about other stuff and

like haven't really gotten a good catch up. So we have some stuff that we have to film. Yeah. Oh, that's true. That's going to be awesome. Yeah, it's going to be great. I'm most excited for that. It's going to be amazing.

Yeah, well, you'll know about that soon. But we'll be around for sure. You're playing the hate breed day. Yeah, playing first day. And Harmsway is playing that day. And then Weapon X is playing the next day. So we will be around for sure. We're in the cut that weekend.

How do Ben, this is interesting. Can either of you out Pizza the Hut? Nobody else. I can eat the whole. I mean, nobody can't. pizza-wise. You know, they got the best one. Yeah.

You think so? You think it's better than Domino's? I, and it's just because I grew up eating it. So it's the same. I grew up the dollars. But right now they got the melt sandwich thing. What was that? They basically replaced the Pazone.

Okay. Were you a fan of the Pazone? I definitely had had it. Oh my God. Pazone was $5. It was incredible. Yeah. But they've replaced it with like a pizza sandwich.

it's incredible. It's like actually good by any metric. Check out the pepperoni melt from Pizza Hut. It's incredible. How do bands typically get paid on tour? This is an interesting question. Is it by guarantee or is it by the individual draw of each tour date or another way?

Great question. It's changed quite a bit over the years. When we first started touring heavy, it was always guarantee. Yeah. Always. And it was always very low. Very low. The first big tour, I've talked about it before, the first big tour Harvest Way ever did, we were getting $150 a night for five weeks of touring and selling about that much in merch. Yeah. Rough, rough, rough, rough. If you get home and you haven't personally spent any money, it was like you were the richest person a lot. I I we made we made money you know pretty early off of like in like a little bit of money hundreds not a ton the first time we made money after Europe that was like oh shit because that's you lose your ass the first three times you go absolutely um now yeah it's I mean you sometimes you have a door deal like for the for the better you know yeah right it's like hey this is going to be good you should do a door deal you should do a door deal you should do a door deal you should do a door deal you should do a door deal. because you're going to make way more. Or what was funny, the Cobol,

dude, this is an insane. People don't even believe this when you say it. The Cobalt had a clipboard at the beginning where you had to say who you were there to see. Oh yeah,

I remember shit like that. And that's how they determined how much each man got paid. And you could just say all of them and they would mark all of them, but people didn't. They just said the headliner. Oh, my God.

One thing I'll say, another thing that exists for anybody who doesn't know is if a headliner is doing really well and it sells out, there's going to be a thing called back end. Oh, back end rocks. Backend is the best thing that has ever existed. That's kind of when if you're a headliner, you're getting your guarantee and you're making more.

You make more if the show sells out. If the show sells out. Because it's like, hey, it's like a bonus. It's like getting a bonus. There's also, I don't know how do you feel about this? A couple of shows we played recently, the Metro was one of them. Where if you sell out, there's no merch cut.

What? No merch cut. I mean, I don't tour, so I haven't experienced that, really. But that sounds incredible. Right? Because then the argument is like, what are you taking a cut for? Yeah. It's sold out.

I gave you this sold-out show. I gave you the most money you could hope to make. Yeah. So your expenses are covered. You have no reason to take a cut. That's true. It's kind of cool. It's kind of cool.

It's still, obviously, merch cuts are fucking bullshit, but it's kind of... There's no justification whatsoever for that. One of the most class act stand-up things ever. And they don't exist anymore, so I can talk about it with impunity, I feel. Every time I'd I tour, Webster Hall. No, no, Brooklyn. It's Williamsburg Music Hall or School of Music, something like that.

Big ass venue. Big old thing in Brooklyn. Every time I'd I sold it out, made back. back out or back end, split it with the tour package. Wow. That's incredible. That's a class act. You never see that.

That is their money. No one's expected to do that. And they gave everybody a little taste. That's, Eid was the band to like, dude. They were the band that showed us, like, how to tour and how to, how to operate, how to kind of carry yourself.

How to act, yeah. Oh. There's, there's a, I've had a reckoning lately. in the past year or so. I'm sure I've said this on here before, where growing up being the youngest person in the room, which I was for a long time, I would look around and be like,

I don't know that guy, you know, and expect like, okay, whatever, I don't know that guy. Now as somebody who's older, I see a younger person, I think, I don't know that guy. That's my fault. You know?

Wow. Like that's up to me. to know that guy. Yeah. Like to make people feel welcome. Yeah. Like they're supposed to be here. And then I want them here, which I do.

Yes. So every time I died, did that as a band to other bands. Dude, I mean, we had already toured with them. But the first day of Warp Tour, when, like, you can get on the bus and your account of merch, you're doing all you. There's like a literal, like, school orientation. There's like that for Warp Tour in Pomona. and we're doing all that and doing all the other thing. And we like very timidly like got on the bus like,

hey guys, like, is it cool if we're, and they were like open arm hugs. Like, of course, what do you think? Like all of them. You know, across the borders. Like, this is yours. Like, what are you talking about? Class act.

Beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful. Favorite city to play in Australia. I don't remember. Melbourne is, is Melbourne. Melbourne is. unbelievable, not only because that means I'm going to see one of my favorite human beings on the planet.

Top-cunt. Top-est-cunt, Aaron Osborne. But also the shows are always really good. And then Sydney is fucking, I would love, love, love to go back and see what speed and the current generation of hardcore have done. And, like, what's changed? because I was there in 2019. I was there. Yeah.

You know, COVID included. I was there right before. Semmy recently. So I would love to see you. I was there far before that. I would also love to go back. Wink. Wink.

Any chance? This is the next question. Any chance of a twitching tongues God's hate harms by Australia tour? Wouldn't that be the dream? You make it happen. We'll be there. I'll text my buddy, Candice.

Waffles or pancakes? Holy shit, dude. I'm not even joking with you. I recently saw another podcast where they do entire episodes based on this or that, right? So it's like just any two things, Pepsi or Coke or like whatever. And I thought to myself, what would be a good one? And I thought waffles are pancakes. I mean, it's waffles 100%.

It's waffles 100%. But that is because I think it's much easier to get a good waffle than it is to find a good pancake. The technological aspect of waffles. The construction allows for better syrup distribution. Oh, yeah. And just manufacturing of the waffle itself, it's in a thing. That's in a thing. It's timed.

It's pressed. It's perfect. Fucking flapjacks? Out of control. Good luck. It's the wild west on there. You're getting a different thing every time. There's no way to make a pancake the same twice.

That's what I'm saying. Exactly. Whereas the waffle is controlled chaos. Anybody in Chicago, if you haven't had the Bonga Room, white chocolate caramel pretzel pancakes, those are the best pancakes I've ever had personally. They are crazy. I mean,

I'll take a Japanese fluffy pancake over both. I'll tell you that much. But that being said, that bongar room pancake I'm just talking about, that's incredible and literally perfect, I'll take a Waffle House waffle over. Oh, God, the Woff House Waffle. Oh, my God.

They're perfect, dude. It's perfect. I'm so hungry and tired that I think I would kill a man to eat a Waffle House Waffle right now. Cold blood. Cold bloody.

Is Japan just like the Yakuza Game Series? Straight up, yes. My day is exactly like Ichibon Kaska. I passed by the Pichinko slot. I didn't play a Pichinko. Did you play any?

Do they have it? I was going to ask, do they have gambling there? It's Pachinko. So it's like a, it's like a, it's like its own kind of slot. Yeah. where it's kind of like an arcade game that is gambling.

And Zuma was very seriously like, don't do it. Really? You will lose. Oh, I don't do it. I see. I see. So I didn't do it. My, um, are you, I'm sure, follow Vegas Matt. I don't know Vegas, Matt.

You don't know Vegas, Matt? He's an older gentleman who plays slots. Heavy. I know a couple. I'm tapped into YouTube slot world. So that's what I'm talking about. He's on there? He's on there?

He's on there? I'm not a shorts, man. But I still feel it. Is he the guy that like... There's good hundreds and bad hundreds, and he always gets rid of the bad hundreds. What? Good hundreds have the blue rib and bad hundreds are the old ones,

the white ones. So if he ever gets him, he gambles him. But I mean, I literally, he... Oh, he gambles them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. Yeah, not get rid of, but, you know, there's that guy.

And then I love the guy who is like, he crumples the money. He's the younger guy with a Boston accent. He's like, I got this $200 ticket. I'm going to show you how to turn it into 800, and he goes and does this shit. Unbelievable. I got to play high limit pinball.

That seems like... Dude, you've seen me play pinball. I know. You've watched me play it, and it's like, I've never had an unbelievable pinball bonus. Never once. I'll get like $100, 200 bucks.

And I'll be doing $10.20 spins. It is enticing. It is enticing, but it's so hard to get the thing at the bottom. Vegas Mad is fucking... I've never done it. Really? Yeah, but think about, you're seeing what he wants you to see.

And also, he's quite literally doing $1,000 spins. And he's there every day. Every day, all day, yeah, for sure. And he's posts eight big wins a year. Eight out of 365. It's tough. Yeah. Worst video game you've ever played.

That's tough because you stop playing the worst video game you've ever played. And, dude, I also stop playing amazing games because I just get, Like Red Dead Redemption 2, I never finished. Yeah, same. It's probably one of the best games ever made. Best things ever. What's the worst game you've ever finished? Oh, that's a good question.

No, I can't say Hogwarts Legacy was bad. It was fucking awesome. It was just kind of got to be the same thing over and over, but that doesn't make it bad. I'll tell you the most disappointing game I've ever played. That's a good way to put it. Disappointing. I got one.

Yeah, go ahead. Kingdom Hearts 3. I remember that being. I waited half my life. for this fucking piece of shit. Why was it so bad? They fundamentally completely changed the thing that they do. The first and second one are so good because it's like Forrest Gump, you know?

Yeah, yeah. You're Forrest Gump in these historical Disney events and Final Fantasy events. You're in the middle of these stories that you know and love altering them through your actions. The third one is like creating original stories in like Toy Story World and stuff. We've had 60 years of Disney. I don't need that. I'm out. I don't want to hear fake Tom Hanks reciting original shitty dialogue.

You know? I'm out. Fable 1. Oh, my God. What a pile of shit. Here's the thing. I went to a midnight release for this fucking game. Everybody did because it was the first, it was like, oh my God, Xbox is getting a Zelda.

Yeah. I went home and started playing it. I was, it was whenever it was summer or something I didn't have school, I don't know, played it all night, beat it. First night. First session, I beat this game. I was crushed. I couldn't believe. I was like, well, obviously I just killed the bad guy or whatever.

This can't be. And then it was like roll credits. That, that devastated me. I think it was like 10 hours. How fucking dare they do this? I was devastated. I just thought of a good one that came. came up the other day and you mentioned Disney.

Top three favorite Disney villains. Ooh. I'll give you mine. Please. Number three, the, the evil queen, Snow White. She's got swag for days. O.G. She's fucking awesome.

Who was for Snow White or Sleeping Beauty? Snow White. Snow White was number one. Swag for days can turn into a scary way. I love a bitch, you know? Yeah. Awesome. Yeah.

Two? Hook. Captain James Hook. Unbelievable. You doing a Hoffman version? Here's the thing. Watching original Peter Pan animated is pretty brutal. It's very culturally insensitive and also like really shrill and just kind of difficult to watch. But Hook is incredible in it. Obviously Hoffman is like that's one of my favorite movies of all time. Dude, us having the realization that we are Captain Hook and Smey. is pretty unbelievable.

Pretty unbelievable. It really changed things. Get your ass over here. Like, that's literally me. Don't try to stop me, Smee. Don't try to stop me. I was going to open the case here, but I'm like to. Don't try to stop me.

Smey, Smey try to stop me. Try to stop me, Smey. Number one, favorite Disney villain, Hades from her. Oh, Hades is incredible, dude. He is fucking perfect. That's where you really got to separate the art from the artist of James Woods.

Yeah, big time. big time voice actor is no good James Wood can suck it yeah but amazing character Hades is pretty untouchable I mean that's

the king of hell you know in a losing movie that's incredible they call the underworld yeah what would mine be I think that

the the tragedy of Lion King being carried by Scar is pretty unbelievable Jeremy Ireland Aaron's doing the voice. Come on. He's amazing.

That's like, that's a scientifically good movie animated or not. Yeah. I would say villain. What's the time where I was like, damn, that's a great villain?

In an animated movie? Yeah. Or Disney, more specifically. Dude, Randall from Monsters Inc. Oh. Is this Steve Bishemi?

Yes. Steve Bishemi. Fuck yeah, dude. That's a good one. He's so scary. He's so scary. That's a good villain. That's a good one.

I mean, there's fucking, there's scar. There's, there's the, uh, the Mulan Mongol guy. Yeah, the fake, fake Angus con. Fake gangus. Fangus con. Fangus con. Uh, yeah, that's fun. They should get rid of Tomorrowland and turn it into villain land.

That would be awesome. But tomorrow land. Yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of yesterday. It's got one thing. Space Mountain. It's got some iceblasters. Yeah. Star Wars has its own spot now.

Will Hard Lord be in Texas for the NSFW weekend? I will. I will be. One half will be. One half will be and then we'll talk about it. Yeah. Talk about Texas. We'll do a Texas roundup.

Texas review. I'm going to skip that one. Bo answered this one evening in the general channel, but want to get Collins answer. movie you've ever seen. Oh, geez, I don't even remember what I said. Worst movie I've ever finished. I'll go with that. Yeah.

Worst movies I've seen in theaters, Transformers the last night. Wow. Hangover 3. Oh. Tom Cruise is the mummy. And Holmes and Watson. Dude, I I didn't hate Holmes and Watson.

It's one of the worst movies I ever seen. I didn't hate it. I laughed a couple times. It was so bad. I had to pee the whole time, and it was so bad that I didn't. didn't mind somebody in front of me placing an online cheesecake factory ordered the whole movie. The entire movie they were trying to figure out what to get from Cheesecake Factory. And the first 15 minutes, I was like, I'm going to kill this motherfucker.

Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm sick in a theater. I love what you did during Salat 10. I am deranged in a movie theater. I'm straight up dark-sided. And 15 minutes later, I let this man keep scrolling because I was like, he's really, Right. Just do it.

This is more important than this for the first song. I remember now what I said, and it was Gotti. The first, quite literally, we put it on in the hotel room, Harmsway was on tour one night, and within the first 20 seconds, all laughed out loud. And how bad it was? Because it was literally, John's told me, because it was literally, John's told me, like, you want to know what a wise guy is.

And it's like, immediately, like, this is doing that was serious. Yeah. Like a meet. Yeah, James. Once, when, again, Warped Tour, the same day when we were getting on the bus with every time I die,

we went and saw the first Jurassic Park Jurassic World with Chris Pratt, the first one. It was fucking 95 degrees. Middle of summer Pomona. We left the movie theater. The first Jurassic World. Yes.

We left. We left for whatever reason. We were, but we were all just like, do you guys want to get out here? To go and like be hot on the bus. Instead of being in an air-conditioned movie theater. It was that like, oh, my, fucking God. It's pretty, it's not great.

I would say it's not good. But I had a good time. And we all saw it as a band as well in the Netherlands when it came out. And this is a story I literally can't tell on the show. The dank thing. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

But that was one of the hardest. That's probably the hardest I've ever laughed in my whole. whole life. Yeah. Jurassic World. How did Bo joining X Weapon X-Weapon X come about? Please release more music. It was, Brian literally messaged me and said, hey, inclination has Chris as like their old head, even though I don't, he might be not the oldest. We want you as our old head. And I said, okay. And that was literally it. I love that Brian is, a later edgeman. Edgeman, yeah.

And like rolled with it and rides for it. Like, I really like that. I love that there's two brothers in it. I love that Brian and Isaac are arguably, Isaac in particular, because there's also inclination, have so many other fucking, you know, whatever in the oven. And like, they don't need to have anything else. They don't have to do any of this.

That's for the love of the game. For if anybody, like, I have not a negative thing to say about anybody in Knocked Loose and the, and I think it's like the proof is so in the pudding. Yeah, 100%. When I'm watching dying fetus, I'm watching Isaacs get annihilated during dying fetus. You know what I mean? At FYA. Like, I love it. They're all, they're all in.

So it was just like an easy decision and like nothing's cooler than straight edge. So there you. Preach, my brother. Biggest poop. I have it. an answer. It's really, it's really embarrassing. I do too. I won't. I will say longest pee for me. What was the longest you've ever peed? You remember the moment? Because most, I feel like most people remember the moment where they peed the longest. Oh, that's interesting. Um,

one of the times when I was doing the two jugs thing when I was sick on tour and I was drinking water over one and peeing into one, I fell asleep and woke up and peed like, like a literal half gallon, which is a lot of it. So there's, I'm a pee guy. I love pissing. Because I drink a lot of water. You've seen it.

Yeah. Yeah, you drink a sick. And when I'm recording vocals, I don't like to go in and out of the bathroom. So I, I piss in gallon jugs and I'm filling them several a day,

whenever recording vocals. So I piss. I'm, I piss. Yeah. Go piss, girl. One time I was in traffic. for like hours, dead stop.

And I had to pee the whole time. This is coming home from switching tongues practice in Orange County. And it gets so, I'm in so much pain that I'm, I'm confident that I was about to burst, like actually burst. Like I was in medical pain. And you had nothing. No. I had nothing nowhere to go.

I was desolate. When I finally got off and peed, I knew it was going to be so long that I set a timer. and it was four minutes long. Four minutes. Like almost to the second of piss. 240 seconds of piss. It was unreal, dude. I mean, you've heard it sometimes where we'll stop.

We take breaks during episodes sometimes. I'll leave my mic rolling. I'll come back. They're two minutes into a conversation. I was peeing the whole time. Oh, that is, you know what's so funny is like that has happened. and I just assumed you like, checked on the dogs or checked on Lana

or checked your phone or something. Wow. The other, I will say very recently I had an early wake up have to pee like dawn. Oh shit,

I better go pee. Which doesn't really happen to me. And so I had must have drank that much prior. And it was one of those ones where I was trying to stay sleepy while peeing. And I peed for so long that I was like, fucking wide awake now. You're asleep peeing?

No, but you know how you're like, like, oh, I better, like, keep my eyes closed and, like, I'll be back in bed in 30 seconds. But you people for so long that you were like, guess I'm up. Guess I'm up. Yeah, exactly. Love it. Ever consider more regional hardcore documentaries? Sounds like New York hardcore is coming.

Love to see one on Baltimore, D.C. I think that's the end game for us. Yeah, that is the ultimate end game is to be man versus food versus behind the music. Yeah. That's us. We'll be there soon. Well, someday. We need money to do that.

We'll get there. Colin, this is an interesting question. Colin, how is the experience in Japan as a heavily tattooed person? I could not go into gyms. Really? Got turned away at several gyms. Even American gym chains. Couldn't work out there.

Place called, I mean, I couldn't go to any time fitness. Couldn't go to Gold's gym. And then there was a local gym called Chaco Zap. Yeah. As in zap the chocolate off your body. and they literally mean it that way that I couldn't go into. Even if you covered up?

There's no way I could fully cover up. You know? Like my pants would come up or my sleeves would roll up or something that it just would be impossible. One of those fucking WWE Saudi women's match. Exactly. I need a full body.

Full body. That really works. Yeah. It's tough. Most places it's no longer taboo. Like I could just eat at a sushi place. in a t-shirt and that was fine. Yeah.

But things like, you know, bath houses and gyms and that you have to cover up still. Or you can't go in. Worst injury ever sustained at a show. I don't know. A concussion? Yeah, I've been fairly fortunate. I've chipped a tooth during twitching tongues

in the Netherlands once. fucking sciatica you know like I've been I'm I'm out I'm not I'm out I'm not I'm out I'll be in there for you to today I don't you know what I'm not afraid of getting spin cucked during youth of today yeah no it's not it's not you're the most dangerous man in the youth of today's exactly exactly at worst injury ever witnessed at a show I saw a woman die really and get brought back to life. Oh, Jesus. But she was dead. Where was that? Rainfest.

Jesus. How'd she get brought back to life? I don't know. God. Were there parents? They fucking clear. They cleared. Oh, shit. They defiulated her. Wow. We know the guy that did it. How many pizzas do you think you could eat in one sitting?

How many pizzas or slices? how many God, they're setting me up This is a fucking setup Do you think they don't know your game, dude? How many pizzas? Listen, peanuts are one thing

Because that's at least Some protein That I can I mean, there's cheese on pizza But nuggets are like Mostly protein True, yeah Pizza is, if I eat more than

A pizza Dead I'm Buddha I'm the fatest, saltiest thing you've ever seen. I'm immediately fat. I went to Piquads with our friends, Higher Power, and some of the guys from Drain recently. That's a three-slice, Max. And I told all of them, you're going to eat two slices and you're going to think, I could have another. Don't do it.

Take it to the hotel and have it later. I have it tomorrow. You're going to, and almost everyone listen to me. One person from Higher Power did not. It was like, Well, they didn't play. It was weird. It was like a routing day. And they came back a couple weeks later for the set. By the way, during Drain, a dude was holding up the twitching tongues misfit shirt. Like, crowd surfing, like, yeah.

Whoa. It was wild. It was really wild. No sense. Yeah, it was wild. Well, because of our lore, we're kind of half Chicago. Yeah. I mean, it's on.

Hey, 630 is on the slip mat. See? It's on it. Which is so funny, by the way, that it's 630. Oh, it's so funny. I'm just telling people your area. I'm from DePage, yeah. Yeah, sorry, man.

I guess I haven't talked about that either. We're doing the longest tour. Actually, yeah, we are, because it's five shows. We're doing the longest tour we've done in many years, five shows with drain, terror, scowls on a bunch of them, King Nines on some of them, Angel Dust is on some. some of them and it is on all of them mutually sure instruction is on all of them

oh you're going to be in Chicago for it yeah that's right and God's hate so the original plan and this just so you know this was this was us looking out for Chicago being like no we want to do something more special yeah the original plan was twitching tongues both nights

and we were like why would we do that let's have what's let's have God's hate do the other one yeah so it was like a special thing because we haven't played Chicago and so long. So long. Two birds, one stone.

So that was, that wasn't, that was all us, just being like, no, no, no. Beautiful. You don't want us for two nights. Trust me. Take, take both. So good.

So that'll be cool. I'm really excited to play the Metro again. Favorite Ghibli movie, studio, oh, I went to the studio, Ghibli Museum. I was that. It was incredible.

You can't take pictures in there. Fuck. And I understand why, because it's like so whimsical and magical that you, you have to, See it for yourself. Yeah.

Really cool. Favorite movie. It's, I mean, it's just like, I apologize if it's like a beginner answer or cliche or whatever, but Spirited Way is like. Spirited Way is the godfather of animated movies. Yeah. Yeah. 100%.

Like that's film. That's cinema. Here's the thing. They all kind of are. Sure. I've seen Howells. I've seen my neighbor Torto Torto. Have you seen Princess Mononoche?

Yes, I've seen that. I think those are the four I've seen. That, Princess, Princess Mononoque is maybe the most convincing. Dude, Princess Mononoke was so effective that Japan stopped using paper towels, you know? Wow. It's like the most effective eco, ecological propaganda ever. Yeah, yeah.

That's the most, that's the most effective vegan, in marketing. It's more effective than Earth crisis is Princess Mononoce. I'm like, okay, we got to save this thing. So I would say Spirit Away number one. Yeah. Princess Mononokea number two. Dude,

the boy in the Heron is really good. You know what's so funny is I haven't seen it, but I had understood that to be the consensus. It's really fucking good. I saw some hate on it recently in the, like you know the Game of Thrones where it's like a horse drawn that's like perfect. And then by the end it's bad.

That was boy in the hair. The end is awesome. So Miyazaki's whole thing is that he starts animating them before the story's finished. Which is why the endings are always psycho off the rails. Right, right, right. Because he can just look back. They're all insane. Yeah, they're all insane.

And this one is maybe the most insane. And Dave Batista's whole character in Ark is like the craziest thing he's ever done. The whole thing with the birds. I love the way it ends. I love the Heron. Robert Pattinson giving his first animated performance ever going absolutely fucking insane in it. Sick. Like the first animated performance in a long time that is memorable.

Cool. Okay. Like acted like a voice actor, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like a fucking Luke Skywalker. Like, like, rant was due, dude. Yeah. Yeah.

Rent was too. That's good. Is there a Japanese food you had in Japan that you like better in the U.S.? Interesting. I do think there is a ramen place that I like here more than anything I had in Japan. Yeah. But that's because the owners from Japan and whatnot, you know. I had ramen a few times over there, and I didn't, dude, white pepper is like a very

strange flavor to me. And a lot of times it's in it. And I just have an aversion. to it. And I wasn't impressed when I was over there. I was only there for like seven days. Yeah. So didn't get the, didn't get a whole good taste. I had a yaku soba the last day. Good God. Really? Oh my God. That's incredible. I don't even know what it is. It's like a, it's like a dark beef noodle or something. Good God. Unbelievable. Like better in the U.S. there's no

the Coke zero there is garbage really it's ass booty from a butt I hated it so that's the thing I was like a diet Coke hit like actual crack when I got home on the plane or you had a way to you

no I didn't do I waited I waited I got I got home had one with lunch today and it was like dude I know people might saw colors people might think especially after our our terrible soda review thing which we need to redeem that there's a difference

but there's a difference between Canadian Coke and American Coke let alone foreign countries like for better or for worse the high fructose corn syrup and the aspartame in our beverages here

hit hit the way my brain knows them to hit I mean because it's killing us and it's delicious we're being poisoned every day by the food here gotta die somehow

That's right. Collins go to Fortnite Tactics Slash Loadout. Dude, wait. Let me answer this. Because sitting next to this man while he's playing with Lana who's upstairs also playing together

and they're on voice comms, what I hear is, this is incredible. It'll be like match starting. They're in the fucking bus and I hear, I hear Lana go, all right, you know what time it is and I hear Colin go, no. No.

Because, dude, this, Second, she can drop, she drops. And it drives me insane. And she just like, she'll drop and die immediately sometimes. There's memes about girls playing Fortnite out there. And she's all of them. It's crazy. It'll be a car just driving off a cliff and exploding midair.

And somehow, like, that's literally her. So she fucks my load out every time. But I like a frenzy auto shotgun. and I like when my wife doesn't steal the front you know the when you kill the bosses they always drop a legendary weapon and Lana's go-to thing will be she'll be 10 a mile away I got clips I can show you you better not be on my motherfucking motorcycle that'll be hell to pay get the hell off bitch there she'll be a mile away while I'm fighting for my life against an entire team I'll kill an entire team and while I'm just killing them healing, she runs up and takes all the loot from me killing the whole thing. So good. It's unbelievable. But yeah, my loadout, I like a frenzy auto shotgun or like a grapple blade.

I love a grapple blade. That's my favorite item in the game. What's your skin these days? Gaga Chromatica armor. And then do you do bad romance still? You can't play the songs anymore. They took that out. They constantly change things.

I got you, I got you. But yeah, I've got the Gagas game rocking right now. I love, you got to have an AR always. And then I'll either have like a shield pot or a med kit, my team. You know, I got a pretty good squad. It's Lana, who's, you know, the lone survivor a lot of the times or the first dead. Yeah. Our buddy Presley.

Our buddy Mina. Play with justice sometimes. he's pretty good Who else I play with? Ryan, my buddy, mean his wife, or husband. Yeah, it's the best game of all time.

Simply play. Bo, anything for 10 years anniversary of the second Wolf Note promo? Oh, no. No, that was just a thing that I don't, I would be more interested in starting something to do new music that is in that vein or a vein, yeah,

than then rehashing something that was like time and place for me. Especially like emotionally and kind of spiritually, for lack of a better word, that was a very dark time in the life of Bo. I don't really care to revisit, to be honest. Gotcha. Yeah, do something new. Yeah. What is your tier list for Coke flavors?

I know your diet S, right? I'm diet all the way. So I would put diet S too, but I would put Coke Zero S. Coke Zero X, S black can over diet. Right. You're a zero guy. You're a zero guy. I'm a zero guy.

And the black can, the OG formula, was goaded. That's number one. See, that's the thing, man. Diet ain't changed since the 80s since it was Coke, too. Since, yeah, new Coke, new Diet Coke is still. That's Diet Coke. now. I would put vanilla Coke

right below it in A. Dude, I love vanilla coke and like canned vanilla Coke. Dude, I was legit addicted when it came out. Because it came out when we were kids. Yeah, I remember. I was playing Morrill Wind, eating hot pockets, drinking vanilla Coke. I remember it. Clear as day.

I have that same memory. And it's Star Wars and I Seattle Republic. Yeah. And coheed in keeping secrets. What were you eating? Surely bagel bites are, or tortillas pizza rolls or something.

I mean, that's just the children of hot pockets. 100%. Yeah. And my eye is twitching. Oh, yeah. This is a problem. He needs sleep.

Pick one. Adamantium throwdown. 18 visions bleeding through throw down. Throw down 100%. Like without a fucking close second. Yeah, I'm not even. I'm good on the rest. Yeah, I got you.

Favorite Chicago Eats, Humboldt Park resident here. Humble Park. I'll tell you what, I went to Dayglow in Humble Park the other day, Colin. That's a U place. It's like a fancy cup kind of place. It's a, it's a flirty, sexy, naughty cup. You've been there? Dayglo?

Yeah. Yeah, they got it here. Jesus. Yeah. I got nothing. But as far as, If you want vegan stuff, I say Handelbar is the best vegan spot in the city, in my opinion, as of non-vegan. It's a place that I love going to.

Obviously, there's the obvious staples, Portilloes and Luz and Piquots and all that stuff. Fantastic Korean food called Dayback in Chinatown. There's a noodle spot called Oystar on Milwaukee. That is excellent. Really good buns. Wasabi also really good. Wasabi on Milwaukee also has really good. ramen and wagu bowls.

But I'll tell you what, if you eat meat, if you know somebody eats meat, go to a place called Jim's Original. It's behind UIC near South Loop. Everything you order comes with fries, including fries. So if you order fries, you get to. You get fries. You order a can of pop. You're getting some fries.

Do you know the guy that made that legendary, like my day in Chicago? as a 28-year-old male real? No, I don't. I don't know him. That thing's amazing. Yeah. There's subtleties to it that I didn't understand as a non-Chicago resident. Like he says East Loop, which I guess doesn't exist.

Yeah. There is no East Chicago. It's the lake. The way that the grid is laid out, and I know this doesn't make sense. And there is technically, there's Eastern addresses, but State Street is zero. So a one block west is 100. and then 200, 300, and so on. It's all in a grid.

East, there's, literally, I think it goes to like 500. Like, there's only five blocks of East. For some reason, they started zero there. It was after the fire. It's a whole thing. So it's not called the East Loop. Yeah, it's just that it doesn't.

I got you. It doesn't exist. Because that's the lake. Yeah. That's wildish. Unbelievable, dude. Yeah. It's great.

All time favorite music collab. Oh, that's a good question. Oh. I mean, under pressure is pretty tough to beat. Under pressure. Yeah, that's pretty good. Oh, dude, I just looked at my wall and I have a cure poster up with a black kitty cat on it. Robert Smith singing on the Blink 182 song.

Oh. For any of, dude, I could, I don't know if you know it or not. I could show you this song. And it was like, they got, they sent it to. Robert, hoping he would sing it, didn't hear back, didn't hear anything. Got it back an hour before the masters were due. Just not knowing whether or not it would ever come. Yeah.

And it's amazing. It's one of the best like blink when 82 songs ever. It's not pop punk at all. You'll love it. Interesting. And it's fucking awesome. Does it sound like the cure? It's really hard to describe.

the verse is like for all of this I know now Everything I know now. It sounds like the cure. It sounds like the cure with like a more modern instrumentation. Is it off one of the I mean I guess all the records were a bit?

It's on self-titled I think the face, smiley face one. Okay. So still fairly old but it's my favorite music collaboration is a little song called Real Recognize Real by a band called Ice Pick. It's like every collaboration.

It's Josta, Ezek, IceT, Freddie Madball, Roger Murray, Pete Morsi, Paul Bearer, uh, I think there's more. Is it more? I think when we talked about it, there are, there's more. And then Ice Tea does a,

actually the best music club ever is, six feet under an iced tea on a song called one bullet left. Here it is. That's the greatest guest vocal part of all time. How about spit my rage? I mean, that's that's the birth of ice pick, you know? That was pre-ice pick? Yeah. It was to the, well, spit my rage is what? When was one with the underdogs? This is your part. 2004, probably.

Yeah, yeah. Ice pick record came out while I was in high school. Wow. Right. So that could have been the thing where they were like,

we sound pretty good together. We'll have to ask. We'll ask. I'll try to ask and have an answer for this episode. Dude, Vogel, world collapse. That recorded into a MacBook,

dude. Screaming into his MacBook on a bus in Europe. Unbelievable. One of the best, there's a thing in his can't where he's like, da-da-da-da-da-la-da. And it's perfect.

And it sounds European. Yeah, it sounds awesome. He's like doing it. He's doing it extra European because he knows. It's awesome. Yeah, that's a great one.

I mean, best guest spots. Yeah. That's a whole, that's, we need to stop this. Yeah, you're right.

You're right. Next week on Hardlord, the best guest spots of all time. Okay, Galtaite UK show when? Hey, man. If you got the money, hate is for the booking. How does, in your opinion, the sound and hardcore, what? The sound of hardcore flow over time?

What shifts in your scene were you stoked about and what were you not? I recently went to an all, no, we'll answer the first part of that. I went to, I recently went to an all new band show in San Jose. They were kickback, irate, shadow. realm and laid to rest covers. That's fucking crazy. That's crazy to me. Those are bands I had to convince people to like, you know?

I would have been one of them. Yeah, exactly. What shifts in your scene were you stoked about? I would say the death of melodic hardcore was brought me jubilation I've never felt before. That was a victory. It was huge. That was an internet.

That was a UN sanctioned victory. It was decided. that this shit sucks and it's over. Yes, that was great. And the world applauded. Yeah. You know, there's some people hanging on. Yeah, people get mad when we say that.

I know. It's nothing personal. No, it's just not what we like. It's not what we like at all. It's not what we want from this kind of music. We love melodic music, Bo. Yes, yes, we really do. Last two weeks ago proves that.

Yeah, we really do. It's just like not. And as somebody who's like super into like youth crew, which I would say is kind of the proto, the proto, you know, it's still just not for me. Yeah. There's nothing there for me. There's not one band there for me. I wouldn't call, like, if you consider betrayed a melodic hardcore band, I would say that's

maybe the only one I like, but that's all hard straightage lyrics, you know? There are melodic carry-on songs. There are melodic American Nightmare songs. Totally. But calling, reducing those. band to melodic hardcore, which I do think is a reduction. Yeah. Is, is, uh, that's the sound, it feels derogatory to me.

I would say for me, uh, there was a point in time where like youth crew and, and New York hardcore in Chicago was the penultimate coolest shit. With the killer always underneath, like, or like, not underneath, but like, always lurking, you know, is like the heavy guys, the great white just. Yeah. And then all, everybody broke edge and all of that. changed and it turned into like beat down being like the thing and I'm not I the biggest fan of beat down you know yeah I mean I will say I would I will take a shitty local beatdown band over a

shitty local melodic hardcore band all day yeah but I think there's a there's a cosplay aspect to shitty local beat down you know sure sure where it's like this if you're inauthentic it doesn't work. If you're authentic, it works. If you're beating ass, if you're beating down, I believe you. And I'm going to buy in. And that,

that's really kind of where the line is drawn. Young kids in Kickback and I rate shirts is crazy. That's crazy. Well, the kickback thing, kickback has, that's borelined my fault. You know, like, yeah,

nobody, I'll tell you what. It was like, you guys and Andrew Morrissey. Yes, that was it. That's who rode for kickback. And Dan Sealy. That's literally, you know.

And their revival, the renaissance that they've had. I mean, it's like us looking back at best wishes and Alpha Omega and being like, you guys were too close to this. You don't understand how good these are, you know? There you go. You wanted something that they're not. We're able to hear what they are. Yeah.

kickback is that to younger people where they're like they were just some some french hardcore band to you but when you stack this up when you stack forever war up when you stack even no surrender which like i remember vividly the day that came out i remember rushing home from school to put the cd on because it wasn't i couldn't listen to it online anywhere uh that's like a new album for me and it came Yeah, 15 years ago. Yeah. Which is that, that makes me understand the old guys a little bit with like, I remember when that fucking came out. Nobody cared, which is, which is the case.

Nobody care. Yeah. But that doesn't necessarily, that doesn't mean nobody should care. I'm glad that people care. Totally. Because I agree that what they've been doing the whole time is better than most things to me. So it's cool to see. But it is crazy for young people to be getting it.

Yeah, it's wild. It's different. Top five, seven inches. We did a whole episode about this. Yeah, we did. Check out the perfect EPs in seven inches episode. There you go. Big Four death metal.

Morbid Angel, deicide, bull thrower, suffocation. Bull thrower suffocation, dying fetus. Love it. Cannibal? I think I would say cannibal. Yeah, that's a great pick. Are we still getting the some kind of monster watch along? Patreon.

Patreon, baby. You guys got to know, we have these ideas. They're cataloged. They're back there. Time is, especially for Colin, is like literal money. Like, we can't just like do stuff and not. make it worth the time. Yeah.

I think one of the things with the Patreon I'm most excited about is putting just the vault on there. Oh, dude, the vault. You guys have access to every day. There's a whole, there's so many things that we've never posted

because of time and just like, we, you know, we weren't as good at this yet, which you're not saying we're even good at it, but they're not like great interviews, but there's pieces of them that I'm sure people will enjoy.

And then hopefully they watch them and go, Hey, this one rocks. This is a good clip. And then they just post it on your own. I encourage all of you to do little clips on your own. I don't care. Post them.

Do whatever. Please make TikToks. I don't get a shit. Just do it. Best bands that are named after objects, example, crowbar nails. Metallica. Misfits. Typo.

They're all objects. That's blood. Yeah, that's blood. That's obvious. objects. A bolt, a bolt thrower. That is,

that's literally just a Warhammer thing. Just a guy. Yeah, that's the best one. What is a non-hardcore song you guys would each like to cover in your respective bands?

Impression that I get. I'm dying to do it. Yeah, I don't know if, I mean, actually, uh, a night, there's,

there were at a time talks of like, doing a nine-inch nail song. And making it like... That would be great. Like band heavy. Yeah, you could do marching pigs or something to make it up. Exactly, but make it like no...

Just make it heavy all the way through, like no melody at all. Easy. AFI did... Had like a whole... Got money. Yeah. And it was like sick, but kind of did it...

Did it as a band, but with Davey's singing, I would kind of like to hear a song that's like... Sounds great. With Stings for... Do you have a favorite match or a moment from him? Go back and watch. There's a Nitro main event, him and DDP. Who is at the retirement?

Did you see that? I haven't seen anything yet from it. No, no, no, they don't show it on air. I saw it on Twitter. Oh, beautiful. He was there with Lex and another guy who's name I forget. Oh, yeah, I saw that. Magnum T.A. was there.

Top albums that grew on you. Ooh. Interesting. So meeting something that when it came out, you were like, I don't know. Yeah. And then, oh, that's interesting. Recently, when I became of an artist called Pink Panther S, I wrote her off.

Sure. It was like, this is just TikTok music. This is, I don't know what the youths are into. What is this Pink Panther S stuff? I see the name for years. I'm not interested. Yeah. Record came out.

Her debut album came out in November. never checked it out never bothered heard a clip the other day from a song I haven't stopped listening to this record in weeks it's incredible so you gotcha

I really I this is the thing I said about you British rappers yeah was spawned by that because there's a guy

that starts rapping at some point with the with like and he sounds it's so British rap is so silly what are you talking about you are willie wonka if you want to view what are you rapping for

and then she sings again and it's like oh it's a rare moment where a feature comes on you can't wait for the main artist's come back yeah yeah yeah pink pantheras that she grew up me I can't believe that record mine would be bloody kisses easily when I first heard it I was like

what the fuck is this like I didn't I did not it didn't connect with me at all and I had friends who were like, this is the guy who wrote Victim in Pain, and I was like, okay? So, like, who fucking gives shit? You know, I did not connect with me. And then even older, later on,

when I was older, I listened again. And I was like, yeah, these songs are like kind of hokey. I didn't get it. And then it was when I heard another record, when I heard Love You to Death. And then retroactively, everything makes sense. I mean, it is. It is.

Retroactively, everything made sense. Everything clicked. That's fair. What's something that truly grew on me? I would say King Diamond, the eye, the first time I heard it, the drum machine really shook me. It, like, bothered me because Mickey D. is such a god to me. And he played on first four. He's like one of your big four, right?

Oh, yeah, big time. I'm doing Mickey D. I'm doing Danny Schuller. I'm doing fucking Sal Abrascaut. I'm doing Igor. And that's, that's, that's my, I'm trying to do.

It ain't working. Mickey's such a god that hearing that was like, oh, they lost the sauce. When in reality, it is a guy playing on an electric kit.

And he wasn't as crazy so it made the songs harder because they're slower. Aha. And then diving into that record more, that became a top three for me. Amazing. Favorite signs.

Anfield episode. Oh, great question. For a long time, it was an episode called The Blood when Kramer is storing blood in Jerry's freezer. Blood. Like, I love that episode. Then I discovered that it was a non-LD episode. Yeah, that's very late.

And I felt like, oh, no. Like, you crossed your boy? Yeah, this can't be my favorite, you know? So I really tried to kind of sit back. and really kind of sit in it. And I think it's the episode when oh, Jesus, Elaine gets her boyfriend

blacklisted from Hop Sings. Oh, yeah, the communist. Yeah. Love that. That's an incredible episode. Are you a communist? My favorite would be the subway. Oh.

And I got to go in that subway car. So that, that's right. The stage, what they shot that in was right under Big Brother at the CBS lot. So all the there's so many Seinfeld relics still there which was awesome. But that has

one of like a top three Costanza moment of all time where he's lying to the chick about being a businessman and he says yeah and you know I did that and I never looked back and then the train horn honks and he looks back.

He goes and the top of The timing of it is straight up like an all-time. Seinfeld bit to me. And then Jerry going to Coney Island with the naked guy. With the guy in, when he wakes up and he's like... Yeah. Kramer with the horse races.

His mother was muddle. That part's incredible. Elaine late to the gay wedding. Dude, when she's having the breakdown in her mind? It's incredible. Dude, that's all time. Elaine. That's like she's not done that yet in the show. You know?

That's groundbreaking television. Hands down my favorite character on the show. I love Elaine. I pray at the altar of Elaine Venice. I'm on my motherfucking hands and knees. I also really, really fond of, I forget the name of it's the episode. I think it's the jacket when Jerry gets the jacket and they meet Elaine's dad. Dude, every time I buy a jacket, I look in the mirror and I go, this is huge.

This is huge. When did this happen? Dude. Yeah, George. Master of the house. Dude, when he goes, pipe down, quiet boy. Dude, that's my favorite sign-fall moment is in that thing. Let me.

You like ice? You like ice? And he goes, like it. Like it. Dude, that's my attitude about like food. Yeah. It's just like, you're going to eat that? It's like, the fuck else am I going to do?

Of course. Like it. Like it. How do you write that? I don't know. That's really some, dude, when Jerry's, or when George is like, when did this happen? And Jerry's just like, yesterday? Spins his keys.

Dude, I mean, I really, as a jacket guy, yeah, deeply relate to that. Yeah. With a jacket guy with a funky pink inner lining, I really relate to that. when he's sitting on the couch watching the Mets, like in his socks and sweats, like twiddling his feet with the jacket. I'm like, no,

I'll want the dogs just to put my jacket on. Yeah. What a show. That's the best. How do I work on screaming without murdering my vocal cords? As you can hear from my voice, I don't know.

You do a pretty extensive vocal warmup. I do. Is that more for singing? Yeah, yeah. Big time. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know how to not blow it.

It's really kind of just like sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Yeah. I don't know. Can you talk about the fashion trends and fads and hardcore over time? Who gives you shit? Yeah, I mean, there's been some dark moments. There's been dark moments for sure. I, full disclosure, definitely wore cut off jean shorts with little tiny bands and thought I looked great.

Didn't learn from it, grew up. I would say that and khaki shorts were all. time worst arrows. Did that too. And in like a mental locking out long sleeve khaki shorts with like sikonis on Rosampton. Purple burn long sleeve khaki shorts. Vans classics. Yeah for sure. And like look, I'm not going to hate on on kids wearing baggy pants these days or like, dude, I truly. Dude, they pull them off. It's kind of crazy. It's pretty crazy. I wish I could. I wish I could too. They got swag that I don't have that I didn't have when I was their age. Right. No. So you and I'm a firm belief.

is like if you feel good, you look good. Yeah. You know? Where are what makes you feel good? Absolutely. However, when I look at like late 80s, early 90s, hardcore, they had it. Why weren't we always just going like, we should just do that? I don't know.

I don't know. It's really except for Syracuse. They all looked awesome. They all looked awesome. Yeah. It was until Earth Crisis. Until Earth Crisis wore them chokers. and did the bands.

I'll respect her. Oh, yeah, all respect it. A band I love dearly. Of course. Rise of the North Star episode, when Evan, get a rest, brother. It's never happened. I don't know what that is.

I don't want to know what that is. Leave me alone. Okay. Previously, you talked about how hardcore is meant for the kids and the bands, and that bands don't release albums past their second or third one. And if they do, they're part of a very small group of hardcore bands who have done that.

As someone who doesn't identify as a hardcore guy, can you explain the reason for it? Bands just get less good over time. That's just how it works. If you're not a hardcore guy and you're associating with our show and Discord at all, we can assume you're probably a metal guy or maybe like an indie guy. I'm going to go with metal. Metallica, my favorite band of all time, arguably the best heavy band of all time. got way worse over time.

They had the magic for five albums, and that's me giving credit to one I don't care about that much. And it ain't the black album. They had it. And then a thing happens where you kind of, for them, I'm sure it was money and not needing to grind and blah, blah, blah. Nobody has it forever.

You're definitely not going to have it forever if you have everything in the world. If you've put in the cheat codes in GTA, yes. Why are you going to get the bonus missions, you know? Yep. There's no reason to clear all the objectives if you're putting the cheat codes in. Nope, nope, nope.

That's really well said. Is it part of the culture of hardcore cycling out bands since the audience skews young? I'll tell you what. Bands don't want to be cycled out. It just happens. Yeah, it just happens. What's like, Jesus, I can give examples that aren't relevant to today so that I don't think I could offend anyone. Yeah.

D.YS. SSD, early Boston bands, both turned into like hard. rock bands when they grew up and they didn't like kids stage dive anymore they didn't play anything fast they just wanted to be like literally like boston the band yeah you know just rock bands and yeah it didn't do well because that's not what that's not what the the culture is it's the youth culture who what hardcore band has had it's got to be terror i i answered the most the most good stuff it's terror it's terror it's all at war 100% terror all out war Integrity had it for a minute, for sure. Yeah.

But still, quantity-wise, it's not even close to... Yeah, yeah, you're right. Just by sheer, like, total records alone, you know? Yeah, how many records is terror put out? Like, 10, I think? 10. 10 LPs? I think Panty to Power was number 10.

Yeah, nothing crazy. And they're all good. Uh, damn. Colin, what's the best? No, I'm gatekeeping this. I'm not talking about this. Um, three translation issues this trip to Japan.

So we were getting the word pussy on menus a lot. Pussy. Pussy. It would be like this, this pussy includes pork, egg, and, like, where we were like, whoa. Mac got a drink label with urine. First day. It was like, it was like a water, it was like a tea and it was like contains urine, which was definitely a translation issue.

But pussy and urine were the big ones. Did you figure out what pussy or you? urine was? Yeah, I mean, it was like pork egg and cheese. It was like this dish. Dish and pussy or something. This meal, which is insane. Oh, my God.

This question's for Colin. What are you most excited about for the Texas run? Why is it Waterburger? I'm honest. I am excited for Waterberger. Fuck yeah. I want to try. I'm a fan. Yeah. My band is opening the Denton date. See you there. Amazing. That's just sold out today. Hell yeah. I'll be flying. I'll be

flying there in three days. I've heard Denton is the one now. Let's see. I'm excited to go back. What is your favorite legal scam that you frequently partaking? Get out of here. Thanks.

User FBI. Yeah, officer. Favorite possibility of doing, oh, I love this. Episode about favorite young slash new bands. That would be great. That's a great idea. How have we not even thought of that? I know.

It's crazy. Best new bands. Great idea. We should be doing that twice a month. Yeah, seriously. How often do you switch up set lists on tour? Almost never. The only time, and I've, I think I've told this story before,

maybe like once or twice on a tour if something isn't flowing right or if like there's some kind of, Harm's way does samples a lot in between songs, so we need everything to kind of flow succinctly. On the Cannibal Corpse Tour, we were playing temptation. I thought it was a stinker for the crowd. and I thought people weren't really digging it. It's cannibal corpse, hate Eternal. Yeah. Farms way.

We're playing this kind of like convergy, Jesus lizard kind of thing. I thought it was stinking up the set. So I voted to replace it with mind control and kind of talked everyone into it and like halfway through the tour, we did that for the whole tour. Much more metal song.

On the last day of the tour, Alex Webster's in our green room, just kind of talking with us, for the tour. We're talking to him. And he says, hey man, why did you guys stop playing Tim, I love that song.

I wanted to jump in front of traffic. So it's not always the best move. Not always the best move. You never know. You never know. We, in our case, Sean lives in Connecticut, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

So we kind of have to rehearse what we're going to do because it's like, okay, Sean, here's what we're going to do. Do get that ready. Yeah. To adding other things to that is tough. With the recent tsunami shirt, Discourse. My God. Has there ever been a merch homage that left a sour taste in your mouth? No. I don't like streetwear brands doing hardcore stuff.

Yeah, that's bullshit. I don't like that. That's bullshit. When there was an obvious Forever 21 God's hate shirt, that was bullshit. That was crazy. That was crazy. Yeah. There was, yes, there's stuff like that. But if you're within our scene within the culture, who fucking cares? It's, I mean, it, 99% of the time, it is a tribute. It is, it is supposed to be a positive thing. And that's why you get to the table, you see a band doing the thing. You're excited to do it. Yes.

I can't imagine anybody being upset about a fucking, I only, I, the only thing upsetting is when a corporation profits off of it. Absolutely. When it's, when it's, band to ban, paying respect. That's wholly positive. 100% agree. all right Mount Rushmore of legendary

Pokemon Legendary Pokemon shit I don't know if I know the distinction I know all the birds are Um Articuno Zapdos

Yeah I know all of them Maltris Those are the only You ever hear you know understand those names Yeah Arctic Zap and Maltris Arctic Uno

Zapdos Dose Wow Mold Trace. Nope. Thank you, Zune. Uno Dos Trace. Genius. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

So, what are other, are there other legendary Pokemon? Yeah. I mean, mu, mu, two. Okay. The teradactal one, right? The phocidal. He's legendary. Ammonite, Kabutops. The dogs in crystal, Suikun, I don't forget the other two.

Giratina's legendary. What about Garados? Is he legendary? Not legendary. Rare. but legendary because you got to grind to get him. You got to get him. And I always do. Every time. Every time. He's my man. Hyperbeam?

Dragon range. Hyperbeam unbelievable go to... Who? What's the one? Chi, Kyoger or something? Love that one. I really don't know. I'm a big Mutu head. I'll be honest with you. I think it's like, I think the store, the, like, lore of Mutu

is like an amazing. tragedy and just like a genuinely good story. It's a good story in any universe. Yeah. Like not just a Pokemon one. So big, big fan. I'm a big, I think Meetu's number one. And they communicate, the conversation that they have in the movie.

Yeah. Where Me's just like, meo. And Meutu's like, I see no. Like the humanity has ceased to explain. It's awesome. That's me and my cats every day. Exactly. Did I ever tell you my holographic mu card story?

No. I went to some hobby shop and got a Japanese Pokemon set. And it obviously wasn't a first edition deck because it had been in Japan for a while before I got here. Was it like mu in the front? And it was like, okay, if you open this pack, you're going to get a mu? No, it wasn't like that. It was just a random booster pack. I opened it up and there's a holographic mu, Japanese mew in there.

I quite literally called up my friend Brian. at the time, who was the one who threw me off a bunk bed trying to do the mankind cell bump and I broke my collar. My friend, Al. Yeah. I called him and I was like, yeah, dude, I don't know. I'll probably retire pretty soon. I thought I had like made it.

Like I thought I found a card that was going to change the trajectory of my life. You struck gold. You were like, this is it. I was like, surely there's only one of these on earth and I just found it. So didn't. Don't know where it is. Oh. Well, what did he say about it?

He was like, whoa, really? Like, I think that was the day he broke my collar. Really? That's why he did it. He's like, son of a bitch. And you get to distract your ass to get the Mew. Bloodborn remaster or Bloodborn 2. You know, listen, playing things at 30 frames doesn't really bother me

because it's kind of like watching a movie. So Bloodborn 2, even though I don't know what they would do. How do you go back? A sequel leaves the chance for ruining something, you know. There's no way they could. I don't think they would. Expand, put me on the alien planet doing shit. And then that's going to be awesome.

From a musician standpoint, what are the main points of getting your records pressed on vinyl? Is there something you wish the pressing industry could move on? Just the turnaround. Being faster would be lovely. Did you know that the coloring in vinyl is one of the most toxic things? Like for the planet? Like pollution-wise, yeah. Wow.

That's why that's only done in certain countries. Oh. Because they have less regulation. Awesome. I would say the main point of getting vinyl press is to have a physical representation of your hard work. You know? Oh, like a purpose for doing it? Yeah.

It says what are the main points for getting vinyl done? Look, man. It's art. It's a piece of art. It's a piece of art. Like, I recently. this past weekend I got an 80s pressing, not first pressing because it would be way too much, but I got 80s pressings of Ride the Lightning and Mester Puppets.

I have those records, remastered, like, nice new ones. I now have end-of-life copies that are going to live in my shelf forever. And the other ones I'll trade in and sell or do something with because I don't need to have redundancies of them. That's art. The type-o thing, that's the most money I've ever spent on a record, was that Bloody Kisses record. That's a piece of art that I have on the wall. The Walk Among Us that you got me is literal art.

Literal art. And that's a thing where walk among us is 42 years old, you know? Yeah. 42 years later, some podcast co-host gets his buddy a gift. And it's a beautiful bond, you know? It's like, can you believe that I found this for you? Yeah, it's special. Everything about that, Glenn Danzig went over and designed and approved.

And he's like a hero. to both of us. So it's like, what's cooler than that? Yeah. I, let's see, I'm going to do a little scroll here because I'm so tired.

Yeah, we're at almost three hours. I know. This is brutal. I don't know why we did this. Colin famously said he'd eat any, what? We don't have to do all of them.

He said he'd eat any meat. Did he eat raw chicken and a horse when he's in Japan? I didn't see those things. I would have. You would eat raw chicken? If it was like, hey, this is safe.

you know oh yeah okay if it was like fucking chicken tartar and they promised me that it was okay i would do it um i did eat a crazy like squid leg that was really gamey oh it was ocean pure ocean briny bright brine i really didn't like it yeah how often should a ban more local release stuff in a year it's i mean modern man it's different. The modern system is very single EP driven. Dude, if I was starting a new band, I would put out two songs every three months.

Judgment style. Yeah. And then like at the end of the year, put them all on a record and do vinyl. Yeah, that's smart. That's what I would do. Do that. Because it just seems, less is more. Make them need the LP. Yeah. You don't need to come out with an OPE anymore. LPs are what are remembered long term.

but the line between what is and isn't an LP is different now. Also, think about the incremental changes you can make as a band by putting out less material. Yeah. You can alter what your sound is and people can be like, but the last release was different. It's like, yeah, that was only three songs ago. So for the last question, are there any songs in your band's discography that you love that never gained any traction or weren't received well? That was part one and then part two is different. Yeah, I got one.

On post-human, there's a song called The Gift, which is like a purely instrumental industrial song that Casey had made. And he made it before he was even fully in the band. We just kind of employed him. He was doing merch for us, and we kind of employed him to do that kind of those textures and that kind of stuff for us.

I fucking love that song. That's a banger. I guess it's not instrumental. James sings on it technically. Is it the last song? It's not the last song. It might be, I think it's third to last. But it's on the B side.

And I always thought it was awesome. But unfortunately, it's, you know, on Spotify you can see. It's the least played of them. I think, I don't think that's fair. Our least played is my, one of my, is like a top three. Crucifixion. The last song on Disharmony. Yeah.

Two is like, go back in time. I would have made that track one. Oh, interesting. Yeah. 100% Did I ever tell you that when you first sent it to me I was, we were in Europe

and I put it on and listened to it and I was like I was, you know how those vans you just fall asleep you're just in a fucking incubator? Oh, you were scared of the ending, right? The like, is it a siren?

Dun dun, dun yeah. Literally like, like woke me up from a sleep and scared the fuck out of me. It was so heavy. I love that song. Me too, man. Maybe one day, it'll get its day. But for now, it's dead last.

Yeah. Number two, the second part to that question is, who has the best laugh in hardcore? The best laugh and hardcore. You and your brother have such a similar chuckle that it makes me laugh. Like, I really like it. Like, when you guys, both are just like, that chuckle. Yeah, that right there. You guys do it identically. And that to be. is really satisfying, but I wouldn't call that laugh. Brittany Miller has a wonderful laugh. Brian Miller's got a great laugh. Mike Cesario's got a great laugh.

Dude, James. James has an... Joe, it's James. James has an incredible... When he, when James full on, like, belly laughs, and he does, like, the silent one, he, like, holds his stomach. And it makes me laugh every fucking time.

Yeah, that's the best laugh I've ever heard in my life. Okay, we're about to hit the three-hour mark. And if I don't fall asleep right now, I'm going to die. Okay. Okay. I love you all so much, or I would not be here. Hard door rules. Bye.

Bye.