HardLore - Damonteal Harris (PeelingFlesh)

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

We're joined by Damonteal Harris, vocalist of the hardest slam/death metal/hardcore hybrid band on earth right now: PEELINGFLESH from Oklahoma. Damonteal walks us through how growing up in the the Tulsa hardcore scene led him eventually joining forces with the rest of the band to their unexpected (to them) rise as the absolute kings of modern brutal slam.With their unique integrations of hip hop samples throughout their entire discography, an undeniably charismatic frontman, flawless live performances from the entire band, and tireless songwriting output, you can't help but root for PF. Thanks to Damonteal for joining us, PF RADIO 2 OUT SOON!!!________________________________________HardLore: A Knotfest SeriesJoin the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes: https://patreon.com/hardlorepodJoin the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef________________________________________Cool links:HardLore Official Website/HardLore Records store: https://hardlorepod.comTry AG1 at DrinkAG1.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1.Get 15% off MADD VINTAGE with code HARDLORE15! https://maddvintage.com/________________________________________FOLLOW PEELINGFLESH:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/peelingfleshok/TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/peelingfleshok FOLLOW HARDLORE:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepodSPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrpAPPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe________________________________________00:00:00 - Start00:02:28 - Finding Extreme Music in Tulsa / Oklahoma00:04:22 - Banned in OKC00:05:52 - Early Bands00:07:31 - Slam Or Hardcore?00:08:15 - Miss May I Cut Your Leg Off?00:09:44 - Origin of PeelingFlesh00:13:14 - Early PeelingFlesh Tours00:16:28 - Human Pudding/Funny Titles00:19:36 - PeelingFlesh "Lyrics"00:21:02 - Mush Mouthing00:22:27 - Falling Off A Bridge Trying To Save A White Baby00:25:13 - The G Code00:30:23 - The Mini Bus00:35:29 - The G Code Tour00:40:09 - Tour & Family Rituals00:46:49 - Pardon This Interruption00:49:27 - Being Called Buddy00:50:38 - Martial Arts00:52:14 - PF Radio Vol. 200:55:02 - Writing Schedule00:55:57 - Eating On Tour01:02:21 - Top 4 HC records01:04:20 - Top 4 Hip Hop Records01:06:45 - Sample Clearance01:08:38 - Ghosts01:11:53 - Growing Up In Oklahoma01:13:43 - Tours and Standout Tales From the Road01:16:54 - Patreon Q&A01:30:41 - Closing Remarks  HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster EnergyEdited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas MarzlufJoin the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes.Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes.FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLEFOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAMFOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER For sponsorship opportunities, email us! [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I've heard a quote of yours about your lyrics, and it is, yo, I'm not going to lie, this shit don't mean nothing. No. Do you still feel that way? Or are there some songs where you're like, man, this one is really personal and beautiful to me. All my songs are just a primal outage. Every peeling flesh song is about a different way of beating the fuck out of someone. Like, that's literally just what it is. It's just primal, just caveman.

Just bonga, bunga disnumberment. Hello, welcome. It's our Lord's time. How you doing, Bo? Doing very well, Colin. How are you today? Outstanding. We've got an incredible guest today.

It's a beautiful week on the show. This is highly awaited, highly anticipated. We announced this episode three months ago, and we've been counting down the days ever since. We've got the, the legend, the man, the myth, the legend here. Peeling flesh vocalists, Demontiel Harris. How are you, sir? Doing good, doing good.

Happened to be here. How are y'all doing good? Outstanding. Where are you at? Better now. Where are you at in the country, DeMontiel? I'm Tulsa, Oklahoma. T-Town.

That's the first time I heard that. Yeah, I saw you in Tulsa two years ago, and it kind of blew my ass off at the Flyover Fest there. Oh, yeah, the VFW is crazy. Are you from Tulsa or are you from Oklahoma City? From Tulsa, born and raised. I'm the only one in Peeling who was Tulsa-based. Okay, the rest are OKC, and they needed you so bad in the band that they were okay with you staying in Tulsa?

They said, we don't care about an hour and 45 minutes. We'll take it. That's right. I love to hear it. Is Peeling Flesh the biggest death metal band out of Tulsa of all time? Death metal band, for sure. death metal slam and dance and dance for sure. We do have...

Perfect. Death metal slam dance here, but I think we're probably the draw. How do you find this avenue of extreme music in Tulsa and the rest of you guys in Oklahoma City? What leads you to where you are now?

Yeah. Honestly, it was all a kept secret. It was one of those things that, you know, before slam is what it is now. It's kind of like that thing, kind of just tell you home it's I'll show them a little slam band like you rock with this how do you feel about this sure but uh we all we all played in different bands played all over oklahoma together went on tours together um there's actually me and our drummer joey we found out we were like you know in the slam our hardcore bands and tool and so we got to get back and you know do something at some point in life

and covid happened bands fell through we were like you know let's just do something we want to do Let's just do a slam band. So you were in hardcore bands prior to peeling flush? Yeah, yeah, that's honestly all I've ever played. I had like a little metalcore jinks and some project. What kind of hardcore are you into? I'm honestly, don't tell nobody. I'm a big OI fan.

That's awesome. No, but love, love kind of came up a little bit off like, you know, power violent grind is. So anything like fast, heavy, big fan of, I really, really love the band Love Child. They were a band that broke off of Cersie. Okay. Yeah, but anything like that, Jason,

Oklahoma scene growing up was like, it was real grimy. Like our Oklahoma scene was like, we just had like a grimy style of music. It was like a little different hardcore, but it was, you know, a little bit of everything mixed. So that was my introduction to it.

Oklahoma punk too, I just feel like is like kind of crusty, kind of like, you know, just kind of that that shade of beige are there a lot of hard moshers in Tulsa in Oklahoma City I'm biased

honestly if you ask me the hardest is that why you got banned from a venue in Oklahoma City yeah something like that yeah yeah can you tell me can you elaborate on that a little we just we just have like we have a lot

of big corporate menus so we don't have too many we have like you know we have our VFW you know we have our little spots our DIY spots that can pop up but other than that we have like a lot of big videos and uh

yeah one day we were at uh who actually a hate Breed show we were watching hate Breed show we were watching Hey Breed and uh they were not having it they were not having it they were not having it kicked all my friends out it was a whole you know we'll think

outside that we were like, hey, it was actually on my birthday. So we were- Oh, happy birthday. I think they'd love to have Peeling Flesh play now, but you can't go. We came right back after and played like a couple of months later. Okay, good. So you weren't really, you the guy, DeMontiel was banned. Peeling Flesh is fine. They said that black dude right there with the dreads, we don't know who he is, he's banned.

And then I showed up the next day, and they were like, damn. I mean, that's kind of how. hate breed started. Right? It was Jocke getting kicked out We're banned We're everywhere.

Yeah. So were you singing in in these hardcore bands before Peeling Flesh and what were they called? No, I am the I am the designated bass player of Tulsa.

I'm just the base player that just any, anytime homies need to me have the base player but I had a band called Give Way did bass in that

had a band called Third Strike. Had a band called Self and Flicking played bass on all of but there's like some other bands that I might be known to filling it for but sure you know so it's Peeley flush the first band you ever sang it yeah yeah 100% oh okay so it's your your intro to writing lyrics as a vocalist is not really writing that many

basically I I help write lyrics for my other bands but I never really I might even like a backing vocal here and there, but like nothing like the vocals I do now. I did kind of more like a farcore Jason. How did you figure out you could do that? What you do in peeling flesh? I've been able to do the vocals I do since I was like 14 or 15 just to kill. Was it like a bit you would do? Like was it ever a punchline?

You know what I'm saying? DeMontiel's doing the voice again. There you go. Doing that shit. No, it's one of those things like I would actually just, you know, be a the house, just making weird noises, you know, me in the shower, making weird noises, just, you know, just... I've always

been in the slam, so it's just never had, like, you know, an outlet for it, so it's just kind of, you know. It's one of those things where I didn't know how to actually do it. Do you lean more slam or more hardcore in your musical preferences? Oh, more hardcore. I think, honestly, all of people are probably leans more hardcore. See, I like that, though.

I think that's cool. It's... It's... I don't know. it keeps you grounded in the scene you want to be grounded in while also shows like hey but we can do this we're able to do this just because

exactly exactly I think where I see that the most is in the structure of Peeling Flesh's songs great point because a lot of slam music is five and a half minutes long and kind of meanders structurally whereas you guys have like a

blueprint and a path in each song we'll get to Peeling Flesh really soon yeah yeah yeah I want to I want to learn about early DeMontiel. You know, I want to learn about while you're in Giveway and doing all these other bands, is this when Miss May I tried to cut your leg off? No, that was, that was, uh, Peelings first, like, big tour ever, peeling's first big tour with, uh, Ryan Neff, who plays bass and sings from Miss May.

I was doing merch for Chelsea Graham and just, I was, we all don't know how it happened. Freak accident was lifting up their giant trailer as I was walking by in the corner of the trailer Just caught my leg and just tore a hole in my entire Holy shit it was it was nearly as we're trying to bandage it up and everything I'm I'm from Oklahoma I'm a little country so I'm not a bandage of a wound you feel me so I'm like I'm bandaging up the wound and meanwhile Ryan Neffs is like about to pass out he's like that's so much blood I can't I'm like bandaging myself up to like stay with us Ryan stay with us did you have to go to the hospital No, no it wasn't that deep

We just we just super glued it Did it scar? It's got to be a gnarly scar Tosomatic Yeah, how's that look now? It's definitely It's definitely there it's it's not the worst but you know it it was enough to make people wheezy. So, okay, so, okay, so when and how in your life does this peeling flesh start? And is, is this group of guys, these are all guys you said you've been playing around or in bands with forever? Yeah, yeah. Pfeasch started about when did we start. I want to say 20,

one, maybe, maybe, that makes sense. We're, you know, COVID bands. I know everyone says it wasn't supposed to be sued. It's, but, you know, It was just us. Joey was the He's the Tulsa drummer. He's just him. He's a machine. He's our program drummer.

Yeah. And Soto, I've been playing in bands. He played kind of like in a little bit of a different part of the scene. He kind of played like in the more, you know, death core, kind of death metal of Jason scene. And Jason, our other guitarist, he was from another kind of. kind of, it was from the same part of the scene, but we all came from different bands,

like Joe's in a metalcore band, so it was in a death core band. Jason's in a beat-down-esque band, and I was in an uncle band. But we all threw each other in a group chat, and we were like, all right, what's everybody going to do? They were like,

these are going to do vocals, Joey's going to do drums, and we're like, all right, but. And here you are. You fucking did it. Yeah. Is the goal,

is the goal off the bat immediately? like, okay, when shows come back, we're going to hit the road hard and do this for real? Oh, 100% now. Not at all. Honestly, we were, it was quite a bedroom thing. We were just in Soto Studio that he had already had, because he mixes a master's and producing bands in Oklahoma. So, you know, we were just messing around in studio, throwing all these stupid slams and samples over songs.

I don't, we, one day we had enough homies to when they were like, hey, you want to tour? And we were like, we guess. And we ain't stop since. So these are the, this, you're talking about the early days of slamaholics, volume one. Yes, sir. Yep. Unbelievable. Let me, let me ask you about the, the sampling.

Because a lot of times it fits so perfectly with the rhythm. and like the BPM of the actual song. Obviously, that doesn't like naturally happen. So who's got their ear looking for samples and finding stuff and then chopping it up to make it match? It's me, Soto, and Jason. It's me and both of the guitars. We're the ones that I like to know.

The super into just OG Memphis rap. But Soto and Jason are probably the ones who will like change the BPM and make it actually. go to it. It's crazy how quickly they can do it now. That first was kind of a process, but now they just, just wow, bam, bam, bam, bam.

It's a, it's, we treat it like a second instrument. We treat our samples. It's kind of, it's like the other, they're the other singer because a lot of what you're doing vocally is like kind of just to be rhythmic. Yeah, yeah. So it's like the sample is telling the story a lot of the time. A little bit, yeah.

And then you're going, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I'm disagreeing. I'm just ad-libbing with it. Can you tell me about early tours that you did after Slamaholics, Volume 1? Yeah, our very first tours with our homies and so we went from, like, you know, Oklahoma to Cali to, you know, New Mexico, Arizona, Vegas, and then some Cali show came right back. And that was the first time we had ever hit the road at the road. and we're right next to Texas

so we have so many Texas rents. Yeah. So our very first like, you know, I think like the actual tour package was with devourment. And they just like, hey, we're gonna do some we're gonna do some Texas shows.

You wanna do some Texas shows? And we're like, yeah, Texas is like a whole other country. Of course we want to do Texas shows. Yeah. Do a whole tour in Texas all day. I imagine as a slam band that's as good as it gets for a first. tour ever? Yeah. For sure, for sure. Were they cool

to you guys? Like, does Devourment rock with peeling flesh? Oh yeah, they love us. They actually sat down with us and they were like, you know, when we first started, rap was our thing too. We love rap. We made our grooves off wrap. So anybody's ever hate. Devourment is based off ghetto boys. Geto Boys. Devourments' favorite thing. That's unbelievable lore. Yeah, that's awesome. outstanding. Things you'll only know at a development in

barbecue in Texas. So tell me what came first for you personally, because you said that you're paying attention to Memphis rap and the samples that you use was hip hop around for you first, was metal around for you first, was

oi or whatever, you know, punk in some form? How did you find what you got into? Oh, it's 100% rap all day. Just me, just ride up the backseat my mom's car. her just beating the living hell out of me with her subs and her cards just on max. Just a kid just vibrating in the baby seat. You get addicted to that.

You get addicted to it. And I'm still to this day, just we go to the venue and I'm like, how's the subs? How does the band dynamic evolve and your vocal style and live presence evolve between slamaholics and the human pudding? Oh man, Samaholics, we were just, we had all been on stages before, but you know, we were just out there having fun. We were, you know, I guess when you get to like a certain, I don't know, extra on and level, you got to focus a little more on the performance aspect of it. Absolutely. I don't know, we just, after being together so long between those two albums and now, we just kind of just locked in on the stage. presence is vibing on tour. I mean, you can tell.

Obviously, I didn't see peeling flush until probably 2023, but like even then, that first time when you guys hit the stage, you're, you guys got some gear. Yeah. And you can hear it. But we'll get there because I want to talk about the, where you are now soon. But when you approach the rest of the band and they've, they've been working on some songs. And they're like, all right, we got this new EP. ready to go. And you say, I'd like to call it human pudding. Are they, is that a conversation or are they just like, that sounds awesome?

Respectfully. Human pudding is one of the albums I would not name. That was something, it was something our, it was something I think our drummer and guitarists had always joked about. They were like, let's call a song or an album, Human Pudding. I mean, I'm obsessed with it. And that's also one of the few times you'll see us with like a, I don't know, a more slam-esque album cover. If you know the human putting album cover, you know.

Yeah, it's very grotesque. Yeah, it's like, so that was kind of like our ode to like, OG, just, you know, stupid, gory Mitespace covers. Is there a title of a Peeling Flash song that is like still funny to you to this day? We have a song called Concrete Curb Enforcement, and I don't know why that's just an hilarious name for me. We also have a song called The School Zone Speedbunk. There's two that I like a lot that really get me. I like the fuckinging. Hell yeah.

And I got fired today. I'm headed to the casino. An actual quote that we were just like. that's a song name that's a song game it was a true story true story our guitarist sent us like the riff for like I think like just like you know no drums

just scratch guitar tracks and he's like all right there's a little demo also I got fired today I've had the casino we're like that's right there that's gold you just did that wow it's simple as that wow and so I know how brutal

those Tulsa casinos can be I'll tell you first hand my god maybe the worst in the country to me they're rough as someone who's been to a few I think I think Mississippi has been

down Mississippi casinos a one okay oh they'll get you if you do you go somewhere in Tulsa yeah I went I went to both in Tulsa

okay did you go to River Spirit I definitely went to River Spirit got my ass fucked for hours and then there's the other one what's the other one What's the other one? Is it the hard rock? It might have been like a river spirit.

Shit all over my chest. I've been to river spirit. I've definitely been to river spirit. We did not do good. But dude, it was I went this out. I went the day after I saw Killers of the Flower Moon. So I was like, all right. Right.

I owe them this at least. This is the least I can do. Right. Right. let me ask you something lyrically a lot of the time when you Google the lyrics appealing flesh lyrics it'll be the sample

and then like five question marks and then the next sample is that true how much is going on there lyrically all right right you heard it here first there are peeling

questions there are lyrics there are lyrics there are lyrics there are lyrics. I feel like you hear me live. You can hear me you know, not saying any words a little more, but there are lyrics. We just,

I don't know. When we started, we were like, do we do lyrics? We're like, what slam band do no lyrics to? We're like, valid,

I guess. I hear syllables. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So I know there's some, but the thing is like,

what if it's heat, dude, and I never get to hear it, you know? You know, if you, if you get, like,

I think up until like human pudding, maybe even the first PF radio, I know we printed lyrics on the CDs. Like if you have the CDs, like you have a booklet on the CDs, you have full front-to-back lyrics, but I don't know, we just kind of, I don't know,

what's the last time we printed CDs? We just, we just haven't done a booklet in a while, so we haven't really done lyrics or just honestly even turned to return the song. So let me ask you this. Have you notice people singing along?

and have you noticed people singing along correctly and mush-mouthing? Like, because you kind of have to mush-mouth, right? One of my favorite things, yeah, yeah. What do my favorite things when someone is just completely like, honestly, when we do the pile-ups for Facebook, if it's crazy enough, someone will always get a hold of my mic and just start doing shit into it. And I'm like, you know, tried.

I appreciate it. But there's been a few times where people know, exactly what I'm saying. They nailed those phonic syllables. Yeah. Right where they need to be. They studied.

They were like, I know that says right there. I've heard a quote of yours about your lyrics and it is, yo, I'm not going to lie. This shit don't mean nothing. No. Do you still feel that way? Are there some songs where you're like, man,

this one is really personal and beautiful to me? All my songs are just a primal outage. all, every peeling flesh song is about a different way of beating the fuck out of someone. Like that's literally just what it is. It's just primal, just caveman, just bonga, bungerment, just. That's honestly the best possible thing you could have said. DeMontiel, yeah, no, exactly.

Is it true that you fell off a bridge trying to save a white baby? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did that happen? And why did whoever told me this specify that it was a white baby? That's hilarious. Wasn't white, wasn't really a baby? It was very young.

I was a camp counselor. We have like a camp called the fortune. It's like the fortune camp. It's like a fortune camp in the okay part of town. And we do summer and winter camp, winter camp, things Oklahoma does. And yeah,

one of the kids that just, where did the kid go? We see him running down and he's running on this bridge and this bridge. It has handrails, like wooden handrails, but there's the biggest gaps in between them. And so I'm chasing the kid. The kid makes it across the bridge. I slip and fall through the handrail and land. It was like a little, like, rocky ravine.

And so I land and I guess like the way my ankle lands and it's just the doctor said I almost broke my ankle off. Off. So you did break your ankle. Oh, yeah, it was shattered. It was, I have, it's currently to this day, I'm looking at it. I have, I think it's a pin in three screws. How far? Because of this fucking white baby? Because of somebody's white baby who didn't know to stay for the hell.

He didn't know to stay within this area. So who saved the white baby? Oh, technically the white baby saved itself. Yeah. Bullshit. And so it's kind of all for nothing. How far was the fall? I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. One, the only trauma-related thing I ever really, because I was like, I was 16. Okay. And one of the things I specifically remember from it is falling and seeing, like, as I'm falling, I'm seeing shit pass. I'm seeing things pass and then ha stop and then pain immediately sets in pain pain dude the the camp counselor you ever have a miscount

you get back to the boss and you're like wait that's what it was we were getting ready to leave and we were like who's everyone we got and then we were like oh wait he's over there running why is he running I don't know go catch him snap shankle falls off bridge fucking white baby man fucking white baby they ruin everything

we have the former white baby community apologize for what was happening to you you know that's all I've been looking for my whole life all I got you man all right so you guys peeling flesh is so consistent 2021 to 2024

you got singles EPs human pudding being one of them which I love to say and finally 2024 the G code first LP hits the world

and I think this is kind of when you guys become like a heavy household name yeah yeah yeah we didn't know it was gonna be that way but we were like the world finally needs a full link like an LP like something like you know a little longer in the world of you should

be because I think like I mean putting was a few songs but we still didn't call it on LP or a full thing and everything we did before then was like I think five songs five songs Or six, four. Yeah.

Yeah. So what sets the process apart? Like, how do you, how do you approach, okay, these songs need to be LP worthy now for the first time? We just, we have a backlog of songs because we're just constantly writing. But for that time, we sat there and just did everything from scratch. We did everything like as a unit. Sometimes band members, you know, do things, you know, sometimes all drummer and our guitarist to get together. or another guitar

so I want to get together or something like that. But this was the one we set down and we all just locked in and we were like, let's make something, you know, I don't know.

I don't want to say theatrical, but you know, we have like, we have like inter- cohesive. We have like cohesive. Yeah. A solid just almost,

you know, that could be a household name, something that can just be on the shelf, kind of, but still be peeling, still be an extreme genre of music. Yeah, I mean,

I don't think you sacrificed anything. for this. I think if it was like a fully realized version of the van. Yeah. Tell me about the response to this and some tours you've done on this album. Oh yeah. The response has been amazing. Some of our favorite songs we've ever done are from Ginko. Like when we play shoot to kill, probably

one of my favorite parts of the set. That's one of the hits. It's one of the hits. It's one of the hits. And just from that Honestly, I don't know How streaming would work between that album and all our other albums But that's the album Everyone knows everyone I guess gets on Spotify

And I guess the G-Code is just the first thing that pops up So that's like everyone's asking for you know The fuckinging. We love playing the fuckinging We love playing like you know Anything from that album is going I was saying the fuckinging. Yeah The fucking is great

We all win It's a term for when Just something's about to happen Where did you Where did you track this LP? With Soto At home Straight up

Yeah How much of the drum performance Is real on peeling flesh recordings? All of it Every single last thing Is just 100% real Joe will go in there And so

probably take. I think the long as I've seen him take is like two days maybe and he's just a machine. Machine. You can tell by looking at his kit I would know he's a metrical ass kit. He's doing crazy ass, like the fetus speed double base

in some parts. There's gravity blasts and shit. It's crazy. I have to not be distracted by him during our set because he's definitely my favorite drummer. So I'm like, oh, he's doing that shit over there again. Hell, yeah. I got to stop watching.

He's too good. There he goes. So what's the band dynamic like now, kind of five years later, or four years later in Peony Flesh? Are you guys closer than ever? Oh, yeah. All the same.

We've definitely almost died enough times on the road. Tell us about some of that. What are one of those times? Whether it's, you know, hydroplaining in the rain or, you know, getting, you know, pulling up. to a gas station in Portland that's supposedly open, but it turns out to be a bunch of people trying to hop on our bus. Oh, cool.

Shit. Only, only in Portland, but like I. You guys got a bus? Yeah, yeah, we have a, we have a Winnebago. We have a little mini, winning. Damn, that's awesome. That's the dream. We're all real big car people.

So we are always on marketplace just trying to find, you know, whatever deal. or whatever. Yeah. You know, so we all just cracked down on the bus one day and I think it was,

what tour was it? We did a tour with Bog and Jesus piece. Uh-huh. And after that, we were like, it's time. You say prong and Jesus piece?

Bog, sang with sugar bog. Oh, sing with sugar bog. I was like, damn, that's the craziest tour I've ever heard. He's natural.

Be kind of sick. I'm not going to lie. It would be fucking awesome. I was like, I can't believe I missed that. It'd be kind of sick. But that makes much more sense. we were just like we need a bus

now this is really interesting because and we've talked about this a little bit but the age of owning 15 passenger Ford E350 vans is like done they're not made anymore everything's transits or than sprinter style vans now yeah

so a lot of people are renting vans because those sprinters are so fucking expensive what has but then famously like back in the day like the Mongoloids had a minibus that was like infamous for breaking down constantly. Every band that borrowed it, they would have a big issue.

What is touring in this minibus been like in the RV? Oh, man, it's a game-changing. We all have places to comfortably sleep. You sleep in it every night? Yeah, yeah. We don't, we're not really, we'll get a hotel maybe once or twice on the road. Got a pallet closer. Yeah, we have everything we need in there.

We got enough beds to fit enough people. We've got bathroom shower. Holy shit. And now you said you're all car guys. Are you doing, like, do you know how to maintain a big car like that? Yeah, yeah. So you could do repairs on the road yourselves. Yep, had to do repairs on the way to Saturn Fury, I think, at least two years in a row.

Holy shit. So this makes all the album art make a lot more sense now with the cars. Dude, you're right. Yes, that's a reference to. Yep. The Soto has a cutlass that's right in front of his house that's like, you know, almost the mascot repealing. So that's his car on all them albumarts? No, not that specific

one, but he has a car that looks just like that. Okay. So how, like, would you say, how do I phrase this, is the RV worth it? 100%. Do you think you have to be able to,

you have, like, that learning curve, because like I can't fix shit on a car. I don't know anything about cars. You know, is that learning curve a part of the requirement to make it worth it? Honestly, I'd say yeah I'd say at least having like you know someone in the band

at least knows a little bit or you know knows enough to not get the mess by a mechanic. What you get like to know RV and truck mechanics those dudes are kind of shy so they're trying to do whatever they can because they probably don't get a lot of business but having

having multiple people in the band that can diagnose a problem you like we need to pull over or we need to go to yeah yeah Yeah. Now, have you seen space balls? It's been a very long time.

Is it like that? Is it like the little, the Winnebago that they fly around on? Is that a feeling flush? It's a little bigger. It's a little bigger. Bigger? Yeah.

Or like, you could be intergalactic with that fucking thing. It's, it's, it's a little big. It's a little big. I think, I think it fits,

yeah, it's either nine or 11 people. How many, how many people are in your touring party? we've got a we're a four piece we've got our merch dude our sound guy and our driving so seven wow so seven yeah

do you do are you running the like base frequency thing like like sang with sogabog does uh what what it happens is uh i i go to sodos I make the bass tone for soda like I sit there and we just you know dial it and make the bass tone make sure it's nice and you know clanky and bright and everything and then soto sit there and just play the set

basically doing he stands by this whole like i'm a stand up do this at head bang and everything so the bass oh actually sounds like it's being you know it's it's being played during a set and then we throw it in and it's in there with our samples so it's kind of like a it's not it's not really a backtrack because we set up a bass rig and then like bass is actually coming out of that bass rig it's just a it's called a cymatic and it's just so it's all timed to the to the set yeah so he's playing to a click then your drummer. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's fucking wild, man.

Joey's goodness click on. So that's, that explains why your live rig has turned into what it is. Because I look at both guitar rigs and they're these big cubes of gear. And the kit is obviously massive.

So this is a, without all that, the set's not going to be the same. Now, how does that work when you go internationally? Do you have a whole? whole second rig? Our rig is literally like, it can break off into two pieces, and those two pieces are flyable.

We can just put those two pieces in, uh, and like two cases. Yeah. It can be a carry on. Beautiful. We've actually, we made it so we made everything you see on stage is designed to get on and get the hell off and get where it needs to go. So that's our main thing. I did notice after your set at Soundin Fury, I noticed one of the cubes getting packed up,

And it was very quick and very tidy. And I was like... Just trying to get in there. Yeah, we were setting up in minutes. Yeah, that's crazy. We'll talk about that set in a second, but let's talk about the G-code, the touring you've done on that.

Did you do a... Have you done... You did a proper headline tour on this album, right? Yeah, we did our... We did our... It was... It wasn't labeled, you know, the G-code tour. We called it a...

Get rich, die hard. It was just a quote we always have. It's a dumb quote we always say in the group. And we were like, you know, explain the tour of that. So we have this ridiculous flyer with a snuffed on site, course file, two piece. So we had slime on some days. Slime is incredible. Slime is the greatest band of all times.

Shout out. Shout out to Pacific. North Carolina. Shout out. Shout out slime. And we just made this crazy ridiculous flyer. these band names you couldn't read. We did a full U.S. tour and somehow every single

day sold out is one of the... I'm going to tell us our guitar, so do those kids about that one day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Are there any specific shows or events or stories that come to mind with that tour? We had a...

Someone came to us and said it was technically the biggest slam show, and that was in the Nile in Arizona. Oh. We sold out They were like hey We play the downstairs We were like cool yeah And then they're like

Hey We kind of oversold that Do you want to play upstairs And they were like Of course And then they were like So we're sold out on that This is a

1,000 cap slam show 100% slam bands Back to back And I think it was I can't remember Who came to me And they're like This is technically the biggest

slam show to date Like there's never been In a thousand cap sold out. Like in history? Yeah. First slam, first band, slam, last band, slam, front to back. It truly is unimaginable. It was

just, it was low IQs from start to finish. It was the greatest thing ever. Kids were just flying left and right and Facebook with a shovel was insane and that was just that's a show. Luckily we will never forget. We have

I think someone did VHS for the of it and so it was super sick we had that one uh i think we started off uh at some point we went to uh 17 20 yes you did and that was absolutely amazing that is still look considered one of the wildest in the history of of that venue it was insane it was insane and that tour was just that tour was a lot of uh there's a lot of growing because you're a headliner we did that whole thing where we you know We backline the entire tour. We supplied everybody with, you know, caps, everything you need because we're all about, you know, make this shit run smooth. Everyone thinks we're just, you know, a slam band here to come play the first four frets.

And, you know, but we're like, no, we're efficient. We're going to be professional. Our homies are going to be professional. We're going to, you know, do our thing. And everybody's going to be happy. Fans, venues, us. And it was a, it was a, that was the professionalism moment. For us, we had a tour on our backs and we had to step up.

And I feel like we really... Like for the first time, really. Yeah, yeah. And I feel like that was, that was a pivotal point in changing. You guys are back-to-back with snuffed on site on a lot of stuff. Yeah. Are they like your kind of like BFF band? For sure.

For sure. Those are all the homies. We got Madlow for the Bay. Any of the RBS bands are amazing. Those are all the homies. that real day show you can't deny it you can't deny it

you guys are kind of seem like the the Midwest equivalent to that in a way you know yeah yeah no Oklahoma is the main thing why what we do we do everything we do for Oklahoma

to put kind of Oklahoma on the map to be like hey purely question is cool we should come out check all these other bands in Oklahoma we have these crazy venues and playing BFWs and all this other things what is that

the one, like, the one venue in Oklahoma, near Oklahoma City, it's the biggest room in the entire world. Guinness Book certified largest room with all the pictures of everybody in the back? Oh, oh, you're talking about, it's a diamond? Dude. Just longest, longest of rooms just in the middle of nowhere. Unbelievable. It's the biggest room. I called Guinness Book and they certified it.

It's crazy. Does peeling flush have any? kind of daily or yearly, like monthly tour rituals, much like your family's ritual of watching Friday after Next every year for Christmas? It's a Christmas movie. It is 100% of Christmas movie. That's hilarious. Yeah.

Since I was like, since it came out, since it came out on DVD, that's been. That's like on Christmas Day, you guys sit down and fire up Friday after next. Hear me up. It's Friday after next. Next and Django. Oh, wow. It's Friday's next in Django.

It's a good day. Is Friday after next your favorite in the Friday franchise? I think it's, I think it might have to be two, and I know everyone's going to hate me for that, but I've seen, I've seen Friday after next every year. I've seen the first Friday so much.

I think two is the one I haven't seen the most, so it's still kind of like a little more funnier than me. So next Friday is number one, for you? I think next Friday might be number one. I think it might be. Wow. I do. I mean, losing Smokey is like, why did they not just pay up

anything he needed to bring him back, you know? Yeah, yeah, it's very true. But then you get the cousin. Then you get the cousin. And then you get, they kind of, you can tell they tried to suffice for throwing a little more, two or three more funnier characters to make up for Smokey. 100%.

You needed to, dude, fucking Cat Williams and this Friday. Yeah. And then we're all just still chasing the new Friday lore, but I don't think they're ever going to give it to us. I don't think we're ever doing another Friday. He's busy making War of the Worlds now, dude. I saw that. I saw that, which is, I'm going to watch it. I have to.

I have to. Something about a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes is like truly as as captivating as a 100%. I fully agree. Yeah, yeah, no 100%. I'm a big fan of action Ice Cube. I recently just put my roommate onto the Triple X movies, the first one with Ben Diesel, and the second one with Ice Cube.

Hey, breed. Yeah, straight up, Hey, breed in the soundtrack. What's not the life? Yeah, Hayfried, corn. That soundtrack is goaded, but... I agree. So, Peel and Flash tour rituals. Ooh.

It's a good question. I don't... I think most probably common rituals just lots of, lots of marijuana. But besides that, besides that. Big weed band? Big weed band. Big weed band. Wow.

We don't, you know, we don't know much about that here on the show. We're both straight at it. Do you have a favorite weed? The kind that's on fire. The kind that's the kind that's burnt. That's the kind of weed that makes human pudding come, come to life? 100%. That's what turns me into human

now I wonder and I have wondered is human pudding the gelatin made from bones of humans or is it entire humans blended into pudding? Entire humans. Okay.

Incredible. Like, okay. So tour rituals would be weed. A lot of weed. We have to have music playing at all time. around this giant at first it was a it was a JBL we call it the jibble but now we have like this giant like skull candy like blue box thing and you said it it needs to be worse it needs

it has to be worse what happened is uh they found the jibble on the side of the road it was like burnt there's like but it was like still working and so that was that was the that was the new bandmate that was a new band member um and then that one burned out and we were at bucky one day Bucking's things happen I think everybody spends way too much

money at Buckies Yeah Yeah And we were like Can we get that Stupid ass Blue Box thing right there And they were like

Yeah sure And that's That's been the new Go-to Loyal servant Is that ever since? Yeah Yeah

Wow Colin do you have any I'm trying to think Rituals Yeah any tour Or like weekend rituals Like ours Would be the day off

Coffee Food Gym bigger food. Maybe a movie. I don't know if that's really a ritual. I mean, I have like personal rituals before our set, you know? Warm up, big stretch.

Big, big warm up. Yeah, so we, we have our like, I feel like we have more of our personal thing. Like Soto always takes a nap before the set. Holy shit. That's scary. That's crazy. One of people who actually make it work,

but they like wake up like, Soto wakes up like, he wakes up like, you know, right before the first band. But like, if we're like first band or like sound checking, or something, he'll go to sleep right after sound check. We also got to make sure to be refreshed for the show. He wakes up at like five or four every day, even on tour. Of course, by the end, by like two or three, he's like, I'm kind of woozy.

Do you have to do vocal warm-ups? Yeah, yeah, I practice just like, you know, a few songs, a few rhythms. I, for some reason, have an annotation of an autopsy song from, like, I don't know how long ago, but I'm like, that's what I want my vocals to sound like every set. So I'll just play that song and just sing along to it. Sing along to it. And if I can get my hands on it, a nice oat milk matcha, I think is also the secret. Oat milk matcha. Oat milk masha.

Wow, mystical properties in that. That's the one that's the one that's going to tell. It's getting harder and harder to get now with what all the white women are doing with the macho, man. I could tell you firsthand, it's it's, it's crack to the white, white woman community. Yeah, Starbucks is just pumping it out like cratom. Straight up, dude. Yes, it is. My wife is every day.

I'm held at gunpoint. Go get me a damn macho. Okay. I'm sorry. It's crazy. I'm at one of my house who like even likes it. Yeah. That's good.

It's grass. I can't. in certain contexts I get it I guess yeah I have a little bit of vanilla to mine for you know even out the earth the long cooking taste

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It seems like something you don't like. It's, I don't like anything that anybody in Midwest, in the Midwest calls each other. I think every Midwest, I think the, I think the Bubba, Bub, buddy, we, we got to stop that. We got to, we got to move on. Don't call me your buddy guy. Like, don't call me your guy, pal.

Like, it's, it's one of those things. Like, I'm just, I don't, I'm like, I'm like, call me anything else, but I'm like, don't call me that. But like, I'm not a fan, not a fan. Okay, that's what I figured. That's why I didn't do it. You know, I just figured I didn't get your thoughts on it. I mean, like, if you were like, I don't know.

And there's a certain. Hey, I feel like there's a difference between, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. Hey, buddy. Exactly. Like, that's my buddy. Let's eat, buddy, you know.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You're right. There's an inherent. It all depends on who's saying it. Yeah. At what tone? Exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. Can you tell me, DeMontiel, about your experience with martial arts? Hell yeah. One of my favorite things. I had a grandma who was obsessed with action. She just loved. Oh, shit.

Like, she was just into just random side quest. And I was partially raised by my grandma, so I kind of did the same thing as a kid. She was like, you're going to do taekwondo. You're going to do more than. You're going to do a little bit of juda. You're going to do a little bit of juvitsu. And then once I got like, you know, 16 and 17, she was like, hold on now, all this is kind of expensive.

And so, no, all my childhood was just, you know, spent while my mom or grandma was at work, I was even just in a dojo and gym. Mixing martial arts. Mixing martial arts, yeah, before I knew what mixed martial arts was. Wow. now that's beautiful does that translate into pit violence 100%

100% 100% I uh will be that person I got some mean kicks I got some mean kicks I got some mean kicks and crazy I would have bet my life on it

you were throw like a double egg or a judo move in in the pit no I haven't had to just a hip toss just scoop up somebody yeah

that's the next man you got a second LP coming out to promote. We might need to let's, we'll get it stepping up and get the people talking. I'm down. I'm down. I work for the show. Right. Exactly. P.F. Radio 2. Yeah. Yeah. Bond to your second LP is out

next month. Are you considering this an LP? I think the label considered an LP. So we'll consider it an LP. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's kind of the same thing. I was like, you know, G-Co, we did the whole same thing. what, you know, an intro, outro, interlude, make it kind of, you know, cohesive, make it a full,

kind of like a, I don't know, a little bit of a theme. An experience, not just a collection of songs. There we go. An experience, not just, you know, something that you'd be like, I want to listen to it all the way through because of the way it's all vibes

and close to go. That makes sense. That's one of our favorite. What can you tell me, I know you got one single out, midnight so far. What can you tell me about midnight and the,

the rest of the record that people can look forward to um this is what's great to happen during pf radio you're about to hear a little bit of different peeling i feel like every time there's a look being released for peeling it's kind of signifying but kind of like a almost like like a big change a little bit we're just we're never done with our sound we're never done just trying nor should you be exactly we're still we're still enjoying it so we're still just seeing what we can do to bend the words slam. I love this album. It's like,

pre. That was cool. It's got some major hardcore parts. We've got some insane death metal parts. The slams are great. It's just the next step appealing and everything after this is going to be, like, you know, kind of adjacent to this. This is the new stuff. What is the next level?

What's midnight about? Midnight is Midnight is about Jason It was the Song and the sample Came together From Jason

Writing around His dad Listening to Ice tea And it all just came together And put those samples together All because of like that's just Nostalgia feeling

With like power Era iced tea Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

Yeah we all We almost wanted to do a sort of rip of that album cover. Yeah, you should have. And so... Have you ever seen the back cover? Isn't it just, uh... It's the other side of the image. It's the other side, yeah.

Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. That's cool. We need to do something like that. If you see us do something like that, you know, it came... You heard it here first. You guys are moving at like an early Black Sabbath pace of writing.

It's crazy. You're doing an LP a year. E.P. between how like are your guys constantly writing between tours yeah yeah we get home and uh unlike the second to last day of tour we're like all right we're going to get home we're going to write and then we're like damn it why do we do that now we got to now we got to crack down but now we we are actually currently writing i think two things right now at the same time we're writing a split and the next

LP. Unbelievable. I'm jealous, honestly. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's correct. Like this kind of consistency is what separates you long term, you know? And it's why Peeling Flash just connected with so many

people is that like you give them exactly what they want when they want it. We try. So never stop. P.F. Radio 2. Coming soon. Coming soon. Speaking of BF5 layer

penetrated assault. Are you guys, are you guys big eaters on tour? Oh yeah, yeah. No, for sure. If we can, if we can get out and go to like find some random, like, you know, the local spot we can. But other than that, we're probably just the worst door dashes of all time. We are. The door dash bill is atrocious.

It's rough. I would be curious. If you could send, do you have a peeling flesh door dash account? We use we use photos. Okay, so here's what I need before this episode comes out. There's a tab on DashPass. I will look up mine as we do this, where you can see how much you've saved in a certain amount of time through using DashPass. I have saved $2,455.97 in fees.

And that's just me. So I'm really curious to see what Peeling Flesh has saved. His is also like his daughter. His daughter's always like, I need something. I need a subway sandwich, make some canes. She's not eating that much though. Between his daughter and peering flesh, here is the number. Yeah, yeah.

What's funny to Colin is yours is definitely several hundred nuggets. Oh, that is true. Just for us. Every single one of those. We do these challenges where we see who can eat. We try to eat 200 nuggets on the show. we've done it three times now. No one could.

I've come the closest. Yeah. I saw how I did my homie zoom. Well, someone would say he did himself. That was all him. That was true. How many nuggets do you think you could eat to Montiel?

Oh, my God. I feel like a screen piece is rough. But maybe if I'm at a hard Lord headquarters and y'all are looking at my eyes saying eat these nuggets, I have maybe 40, 60. Respect. I really respect. That's a realistic, reasonable expectation of yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yes. I really respect that. Yeah, I'm going to be hurting. No, you were going to be hurting. We all have thrown up. It's probably the worst I've ever felt physically. And that sodium stayed with me for one. So don't do it.

Don't do it. But what are you guys eating? You know, what's your, what's your one spot? that if peeling flushes together in the in this the uh space balls winnebago you see the sign on the road you go oh my god guys it's here pull over let's eat uh we're big fan of uh hawaiian roads oh no shit is that pokey uh it's just like uh rice and just like terriaki chicken or terriaki chicken they got spam asoubi yeah the macaroni salad dude the macaroni salad they give you with every order It's just like the perfect

It's the perfect we're about to play a set But we don't want to feel like ass Like you know it's just nice and light If we can find any place Any place like adjacent to that Any place that's just like here with rice vegetables Of like you know a good ass Like meat protein

That's our go too Love it I'm getting that for dinner Yeah Good call If I can find a good bond meat That's also Oh interesting

I love bond meat sandwiches Same one of my first favorite things. Same. Could eat them every day. If you ask me how many bond meats I can eat over nuggets, might be different. Do you remember the spot in Houston where it was like $2.50 for a bond me? Yeah. Up until like COVID? Like, there's still a few spots like that. But yeah. Man. Are there any local eateries around the country that you guys are really psyched to get to on every tour now?

Um, like, you know, everybody's got their pizza pizza. place in New York, their barbecue place in Texas. I can't think of restaurants specifically, but we've become booking sheets and then Wawa people, unfortunately. It's always open. It's something we don't have. We have, it's always open. We have

nothing like that anywhere near Oklahoma. We have Wad Waus, but that's like Buckees is in Texas. We have none of those here and we go to like sheets of the Wawa. I think we've been to cook out once. But, you know, anything that's open. open when we're done sick.

Yeah, fully. That's why Waffle House rocks. That's why Cookout Rocks. I think cookouts open until 2 a.m. Yeah. That's insane. Any, any vegans or vegetarians in the band? No. No. Beautiful. No. I could have guessed that. I came from a band with multiple vegans. I came from a household with multiple

veg, but nobody in peeling. Give away was a more vegan best band, but peeling is. No. I'm going to be honest with you. The band name Giveway versus peeling flesh. One certainly does sound more vegetarian friendly. I would have bet my life on it. What is the

What's the Oklahoma City Burger Place? Oh, Oklahoma City Burger Place. There's a burger park. There's a chain. It's kind of white and red colors. There's third pound burgers. A third of a pound. They're fucking huge

and they're incredible. Is it Oklahoma City? Is it Oklahoma only or is it Midwest. It's Oklahoma City. I forget what it's called. Freddy's or something? No, it's not Freddy's. Freddy's everywhere. That's what I thought. I thought I thought I thought when he said red and white, I'll think of Freddy's.

Yeah. But I'm not sure. I know some Oklahoma City homies are going to grill me for not knowing. They're going to be like, bro, we went there a million times, but I cannot think of it. I cannot think of it. I do think it's like Tommy's Burger or something. Like it is a guy's name. Oh, we got Tommy.

It's not Freddy's. It's. It's not, it's something that's specifically there. Tommy's is my. If you don't see the shack, take it back. If you are in O. Casey, I do recommend the place Burger Punk. Burger Punk? Yeah, Burger Punk. It's like a punk-themed burger place.

It's so sick. Some of the best burgers ever have. What do they got? They got burgers named after punk bands? I think they have some, like, little sci-hific punk bands, but it's when you go in there, you're like, okay, I'm home. I'm welcome here. All right.

I love it. Could you tell me, DeMontiel, I want to do a couple different top fours for you. because you're a man of many, many interests. Can we start with your top four hardcore records of all time? Yeah. Four hardcore records. I'm a sucker for anything mind force does. I'm a huge sucker for anything mind force.

So it would be, oh, it would be the demo or the future of Excalibb is really good, too. But it has to be one of those. One of the, I think it's my top because it's most nostalgic to me but one of the things I've listened to the most I think just because of like

my friends around me and you know no they'll put their new shit on what was the backtrack album with a darker half darker half yeah darker half

darker half was goaded he's a band from Chicago called side split and they had an album called Second Self and I'm going to throw that that's probably an album 10 people have maybe listened to

but that is growing up I was like that's hardcore that's hardcore you have a hardcore band that sounds like that I highly recommend it's probably on band camp somewhere side split second self and

do I have one more one more yeah one more I'm going to show Oklahoma some love and say the upright record I feel like that was definitely pivotal for Oklahoma hardcore, actually the upright demo. Wow.

Really good. Respect. A man of modern refined tastes. Yeah. Yeah. How old are you? Montaille. What's up?

How old are you? I'm 30. 30. Okay. Now, I love it. I would love to know, let's go, let's go the other direction. I would love to know your top four hip-hop records. Oh.

Colin and I are two guys who we don't know a whole lot about hip hop. We don't talk about it enough on the show. We like what we like, but I would consider us undereducated. Undereducated, but open. I have the craziest dynamic when it comes to hip hop. I either like really dark kind of rhyming, like, you know, the Memphis sound, or I like super chill stuff probably from Cali, like I'm a big Earl Sweatian fan. Okay.

Okay. So, like, any Earl sweatshirt album, I'm going to have to say, I'll already say my number one pick is Chapter 2 by Three Six Mafia. That's going to be my number one. Great answer. Hell yeah. And number two is going to be Earl Sweatert's Doris because it introduced me to that whole new kind of, chiller, kind of, I think they call it kind of like trip hop kind of, you know, kind of more. side of things. Were you wrapped up

in the in the lore when he got like sent off to military school or whatever all those years ago? They sent him to an island in Samoa, I think. Yeah. It's crazy. Just as his career was popping off. Yeah, his mom found out about his music and said, you're not doing this. You're going to

go into a random island and you're going to sit there and you're going to think about what you did. He was already famous. And that made him way more famous. Right. Free Earl movement? Crazy. Huge. Great answers. And three,

three I'm going to have to say the Chris Travis fan from Florida. He has an album called The Silence of Meet Turno. And that's a beautiful name, but it's the most grimy album. It's so good. Anything Chris Travis, whole Chris Travis disc on.

I'm out of bad song. And for the fourth, now I've made my son. So think of the last one. It's going to be the hardest. The fourth one is just kind of top everything off, kind of like, maybe an audible mention. It's probably the, I think,

the UGK tape switches on those are. Whoa. Okay. Good old text here. Have you guys ever gotten in trouble for a sample yet? I don't think we've ever, we've had some samples not be able to be passed. Okay.

When we were doing, like, I think certain things from slamaholics, and he put in, I think when we upload it to YouTube, YouTube was like, hold on now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, now it seems like you guys are better at manipulating them enough where that you won't get flagged for. Yeah, no, we found the, we found a few people to talk to and be like, hey, we know you know some people. Won't you just turn another eye when that sample does, you know?

Yeah, and I think if you change it like 50-something percent or something. Yeah, it's a pitching thing. We've used stuff from movies and whatever where you have to change it just enough. What is the, there's a sample that you use often throughout, it sounded like throughout the discography. It's definitely a hip-hop sample. I'm not going to embarrass myself by trying to sing it. But it's used in between as like as intros and altos to songs. um

it's the it's probably the alcopone sample from uh make a moon the uh fortunate unfortunate 199 uh we've used it for

like an interlude like like a little dance break and we like chopped up the song and kind of just made it so we're like if you know the song you know it's getting ready to come up but we kind of turn that into like a little interlude that'll maybe go to the song. I think that's probably the only sample we've, like, reused because it's just so catchy.

That has to be what I'm thinking of. Yeah, that has to be what I'm thinking of. Cohesion. Yeah. Let me ask you something, De Montiel. This is really important. Are you open to the supernatural or the paranormal? Yeah.

Yeah. Do you believe in ghosts? I am one of those, what they call them, skeptics. I'm not a skeptic. I'm an open. skeptic. I'm like, I want to believe in ghost. I want to see, like, I want a ghost to be real, I guess. I have some very spooky just instances that have happened in my life that I'm like, that's got to be, you know, that's got to tell me. Tell me, tell you talk all about it. There's, I, I've, I've had

pictures on the wall that will follow me and then someone will say that that picture has a shadow. Like we had an aunt, the name was Aunt Maggie. She's out in the country of Boli, Uncle Humber. You don't know where it is? No one knows what he is. It's just out there. And all my entire family tree will tell you about this Jesus picture she had that would follow you. No matter where you went, those eyes would see you.

And this is everybody. This is my mom. This is my grandma. This is everybody. And they'll say if you catch it at the right moment, the picture is high enough on the wall. to where you'll see the rest of the body like in a shadow forward like

on picture frame to floor and it's it's it's they say it's so I'm like ah it's a picture of Jesus it's like the eyes will follow you and it's just so you're telling me the real Jesus is somewhere in rural Oklahoma in a picture

just big chilling on a farm in Oklahoma unbelievable my mom had a Virgin Mary painting in her room and the veil went like down like mid-chest. And at night, it looked like a monster with a big mouth. And it scared the fuck out of me as a kid. Religion is all about perspective.

Wow. Yeah. Wow. Profound. What other what other scaries have you experienced? We had my last apartment with the vocalist of Giveway. We had an upstairs neighbor who would just. just go absolute crazy.

Like he was having like tap dance solo. Like up there, he was just going crazy. And then one day we came home and they were showing someone the apartment. They were being like, yeah, this is how you love. This is the apartment. This is the, and I was like, wait, no one lives up there. And they're like, no, that apartment's been vacant for five months. And I'm like, I don't think so.

I don't think so. So if it's squatters or ghosts. which obviously we know it's most likely ghosts. Yeah, that's why I'm like, I have these instances where I'm like, I want to believe that that words, you know.

So you're open to it. I'm open to it for sure. And, you know, Tulsa is a land of many tragedies. Sad. Yeah. Yeah. So it could be any minute

now that you experience something. So keep us posted if possible. Definitely. Definitely. I'll try to keep a phone in hand to record and have groups. Let me ask you something,

because I am really curious about this. What is growing up in Oklahoma like? It's cool. There's nothing to do. So it's your job to find something to do. Hopefully it's the right thing to do. Hopefully not going to get too much trouble. But there's just so many,

if you have a hobby or a niche or something, there's definitely someone else in Oklahoma who will fly with you because we all have nothing to do. So when I found shows, which was in high school, my friend was family like, hey, if you want to go to a show, it's going to be at this house and someone's living room. But I was like, that sounds safe. And never stopped going since then. So it started as a thing to do. Yeah, yeah.

That's all you need to do in Oklahoma. You just need something to do with. That's what it was. I mean, that's where hardcore is from. It's from the mundane life of suburban kids. That's where it goes from. Need something. Need something.

I mean, I do it. I credit it as the thing that is, I'm, yeah, I've gotten in some trouble because of hardcore music, but I've gotten out of a lot of trouble, I'm sure,

because of hardcore music. 100%. 100%. And straight edge. My dad, dude, my dad's, I guarantee you could outsmoke peeling flesh combined.

And he is, well, I'll have to see about that one day. He is straight edge's number one fan because he don't have to worry. about me being outsmoked by peeling flesh. Dude, that's a different kind of nugget challenge. Yeah, yeah, I love that. He said, leave that bad shit

to me. Straight up, dude, Dan Young versus all of peeling flesh. Let's see what happens. Coming soon. He's in Texas, so it's not impossible. Anyway. Yeah, I guess let's let's, we could get into this Patreon Q&A now, but I kind of want to know

more about the tours that you guys have done and some stand out tales from the road that you don't want to give me one more tale from the road before we get into the Patreon Q&A? A story from tour. Oh, for sure. Yeah, if you will.

For sure. For sure. We actually haven't done that like giant tours. We don't like, you know, two weeks here and there. We've done like a few month long tours. And I feel like those are where all the crazy stuff happens. But we were in, in, uh, in weather, Kung Fu Necti. Yeah.

Yeah. Philly? Yeah, we played Kungu necktie in Philly. And, you know, we did our thing. We got there, you know, we had our thing where everything goes on stage and offstage, super quick. We were chilling. And we were like, cool shows over early.

You get to, we get to do it. And as soon as we hopped in the car, our starter blows out and we're stuck in this parking lot. And Philly. And so we're like, okay, what do we do? we're like, well, no mechanic shops are open. He's got to wait until the morning. So I guess, let's go get some cheesesticks.

We walk around and come back, and there is a whole entire block party around our army. Like, there's a whole entire, like, I guess, like, I think it might have been, like, Kung Fu necktie because, like, the bar portion opened up after the show. And so I think everybody's kind of just spilled outside and they were just vibing with this RV. And we were just like, yo, sorry, we got to, we got to sleep here. Like, you mean. We literally don't have a choice now. We literally don't have a choice.

So we were just, it's just a funny moment. It's not like everyone liking like crazy shit. But I can never forget being in Philly and just trying to sleep in our RV and outside. It's just do. Oh, all night, baby. And you know, the sounds of just, you know, white girls just, wooing, woo. Woo!

And I was just like, when we come back, we got to play the church. Did you play the church? We haven't played it yet. We haven't played it yet. That's going to be incredible. We want to.

We want to. It's awesome. Okay, good. I just did it for the first time. I had a blast. Same. It's awesome. Hell, yeah.

Where did you get a cheese stick in Philly? I do not remember. I do. It was on a corner. It was like a, window on a corner, we go up to the window, corner to the same thing.

Is it a cross from another window that does the same thing? I think so. I think so. So it's Patzer Geno's probably. It might have been Patzer Geno's. I know there was like a chicken spot not too far from it that was

that we ate earlier. That was like really good. It was like Dr. Chicken or some thing like that. Oh, it's Dr. Chinon. I'm a Jim's or Joe's man,

personally. I like Steve as well. Steve, yeah. Those are my big, big three. All right, let's get to some Patreon Q&A here. Let's see what we got. Sean asks, who are some of your personal musical influences, favorite slam or brutal death metal vocalists?

And then he said, shout out to my cousin, John Huber. Shout out, John Huber. We played with his, like, I think the last band he did, like on the way back home from something. They were in Washington, kill the little baby shows so we got to hang out with john huber for a while and that was that man's an entity but uh vocal influences would definitely have to be uh angel a choa uh which a ballot trip to everyone said to my dad i even call it my dad and called me his son uh

that's just uh i feel like that's the bandit for kind of going just the the slain grosser sounding slam vocals like if you anybody's watching and really likes torture if you like the way torture sound if you like torture rhythms

and those weird torture vocals check out cephalotripsy that is torture and the phallotripsy yeah they are torture is a subalatripsy

like worship band like they they both of those bands love each other but sephalot trips you'll hear like you'll hear him and you'd be like, oh.

I see. Perspective. All right. Good answer. Good answer. Jake asked Mount Rushmore Trap Adlibs. That's good.

I'm waiting for this one. This one's good. Trap adlips. We got a bones, Chris Travis, ski masks, swamp god, and a fourth.

I want to say someone along the lines of like comethazine or I'm going to say chomemethosine everyone's I feel like if the ad lib everyone knows it's Travis Scott ad loops but I can't stand

Travis Scott ad loops I can't stand yeah so I'm throwing that out there that's he has no place on it great answer I agree Adam Marshall

ask dodge ball or tin pot snare stand uh sound snare sound oh oh you guys have kind of the dodgeball vibe we have we have more of a dodge ball vibe but at one point i think joey our drummer did send us a demo of him actually using a spaghetti pot in the words hilarious like you literally just replaced this snare with spaghetti pot and we were like this is, we can't release this like. Okay, so Dodge Ball. So the answer is emphatically. I think Dodge Ball. Yeah,

I think once you have a tin can metal pot snare, you can only do, I can get sick of that really quick, but just dodgeball snare every time that hits you're like, ooh, I feel that. Yeah, it's really, it's, it's, uh, it's well-rounded. Yeah. Whose idea

was it to put in the Bush sample? Which I love. one of my favorite videos of all time. Oh, that was, I think that was Soto. Now watch this drive. Yeah. I think that was Soto. Oh, dude.

That Bush, yeah. I wasn't sure, and now it clicks. It's so full fucking funny. My favorite part of that song, my favorite part of that song is people would say it's probably the shoot to kill ending, but my favorite part is the Bush sample. Unbelievable. Great pick, Soto.

What is your favorite guest spot you've done and your some of your other favorite guest vocals by other bands? You big guest spot guy? I guess that's big and slam, huh? Oh, a little bit, yeah, yeah. Everybody's slam bands are always just trying to collab with other slam bands. I do a few. I think I've done very low slam guest spots.

Like I've done like a, I've done a snuffed on site, uh, time to dip guest spot. That might be my favorite. Uh, there's a like Maccore adjacent band from Texas called Fromjoy. Uh-huh. Yeah, I know. amazing band. I did a song with them called Dossility. I think

that might be... From Joy, yeah, I definitely know that name. I think, I think from actually, I think both bands are from Houston, so that's not, you're not too far off. You're not too far off. Dan McKinley asked, what is the ultimate chip and dip combination? I'm not a chip and dip.

I'll tell you. French, French onion. Get the fuck out of here. With either, either, uh, like a spicy, Dorito or the salt and pepper you don't you can't you can't comment on dip

though I absolutely is salsa not in the dip family and see you said dip I nearly thought of like yeah Doritos and caseo all day yeah I agree if case is in it salsa's in it yeah I mean of course it is all right then I can that's you know what people are thinking when they

say chips and dip you know L Milagra tortilla chips little lime some pico maybe some guac. That's all you need. I think the reason I wouldn't say salsa is a dip because I think it's superior. It is.

You're right. Chip and guise. That's disgrace to chip and guac. Okay. To guac and salsa is considering it a dip. Dip is beneath what sauce and guac repress. I can accept that. For sure.

Big time. All right. Lucas Norheim asked, what is your favorite slam or brutal death metal merch designed? And what is your favorite soda? Great questions What's the

Merse designs I see I see I see the course pile Fuck your light shirts So much And that is They got such a hollings

They're Houston Right Yeah Houston Shut up Houston Death Metal Houston Doing great I have to give it to

Cors pile I have to give it to the Any slam band That's willing To put a logo On the front of their shirt and some ridiculous

ass quote on the back that people as old as time that people didn't even know were said in their songs is like gotta be my favorite

what about soda? Yeah I do not drink soda I You're one of those guys I What's not like? Yeah

it's I I cope with just equally a sugar drink sugary drinks like over here Bonsom and whatnot

Shilsicle Arizona It's like a bottle in a bottle, too. That's not even 99 cents. I don't think so. I think it's like $1.75. That's that inflation. Unbelievable.

I'm a big Gatorade person. Okay. I like Gatorade. I had some Gator. Which is not any better than soda, but no. Well, the zero. I mean, you can get zero is. And it's got electrolytes.

You know, it's got what plants need. Exactly. Somebody, Miles Olson asked. what would be your dream show lineup and what's your favorite dessert? Dream show lineup does my band have to be on it?

No. No. Okay. Dream show lineup would be a a bombable future dude. It's a phalletripsy. And then laid to rest. Great

answer. Great big. And I feel like maybe one more band would be like in town concrete. I feel like that would just be the most hilarious. What a show. I'm not going to lie. It all makes sense. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm there, man. Exactly. I'll pre-order. What does that? Who does Peeling Flesh communityly listen to the most in the van on the road? Or on the, on the, what is it? On the Winnebago. No, the candy.

Skull candy. Yeah, yeah. On the Skull Candy JBL. what's playing? I think me and Jason we play a lot of Chris Travis between bands we've been playing so

much Mongol we've been loving the new Mongol hell yeah, amen just we listen to a lot of rap there's not as much slam

on the on the slam wagon I feel to call it but there's there is a lot but not as much think It's a lot of Memphis rap or just

Houston rap. We're like UGK, Mike Pimsy and Bunby almost. But I feel like the Mongols is like just something that the Mongol records or something that always just as soon as it comes up, we're like, okay, okay, we're feeling most. All right. Excellent answer.

I'll tell you that answer. Thank you. Has Peeling Flesh ever played a show where a water pipe burst over the stage? Ah. Minnesota, I don't remember the venue, hot water pipe. Oh.

They say it was because of the 808s. I don't know. That's ever happened before. That sounds like that sounds like us trying to be blamed, but now is definitely those water pipes. Those things were from 1809. And yeah, we had to, it burst on the

from my standpoint the right side of the stage and it immediately started falling towards the base of the shit so we like we just moved it towards the front of the stage and I just did vocals in the crowd

you just kept going? Yeah yeah it was so hot it was so hot was it just pouring out of this thing like lava or what? Oh yeah I'll send you guys videos but it was it was flooding venue staff was like where's rob we're like we don't know who rob is like they're they had to end up shutting off the entire oh they had to end up like shutting off the power for like or the water for the entire building so it could you know not steam out the entire entire because it was so hot it was hot water it was gone hot water pipe person yeah yeah never heard of you guys are evil man

Wow, that's unbelievable. Kegan asked top three favorite vocalists. Top three favorite vocalist. Maddie Way, Angela Choa. I'm, y'all are not ready for this one. I'm going to hit you with this and you're going to be like, what? Maddie Way, Angela Choa, Serge Tankman. Oh, shit.

Really? Big system fan. Wow. Interesting. Chaos, dude. You never know what to expect next with this guy. He has gutterals. If he has like that weird

gutterals thing he does, the system has gutterals. Okay. Understood. This is a good kind of last question to leave this all fine. Somebody at Jakey asks favorite Oklahoma bands that need more recognition.

Yeah, please. Oh, let's go. Inside you, the band called Inside You. A lot of these bands are going to be from O.K., maybe we're talking to Tulsa. A band called Tell Lies. It's from Tulsa. Tail Lies.

Super sick. I recommend inside you. Agony. Sell. Was there a number? Can I just fire off? No, dude. Fire them off, dude.

I want to know everything. Put over O. Casey. Yeah. Yeah. Inside you, agony, cell, shattered youth. Nile, dredge. These are,

these are across all genres. Mostly hardcore. There's a band for. OkC called Nile? Yeah. Yeah. Huh. Okay.

Yeah. They should look at that. They should look into that. Maybe it would be called Nile 2. I think they go by like Nile O.K.C. I think. Okay. Oh, there you go.

Okay. You know, you know, the singular word names go. Well, yeah. Because somebody's going to Google that and be very confused. I'm going to start hate breed L.A. There we go. There we go. Hey, breed.

What are some other ones? We got Dres. There's a band called F6 Who else we got A band called Pohler's a grind band called Polio that's really sick. Polio? Polio.

I don't want it. Exactly. Now that's how you do a one word band name. Yeah. Are they slam? No, they're like a grind power violence. Okay. Some younger kids, super sick.

I mean, if ass suck can be ass suck. Yeah. Exactly. It's just fine. Exactly. Torso fuck. If torso fuck can be torso fuck, anything.

Exactly. Yeah. What else we got? I would check out that band peeling flesh. You don't have to. Me too. I would too. Listen, you guys have,

you're like, what an incredible few years you guys have had. clearly you have not compromised the single thing about who your band are and the kind of the type of music you do you get more and more extreme and you've told us that pf radio two is going to be the next evolution of the band i can't wait to hear what that means yeah it'll be out shortly after this episode so if you listen to this episode and you you need more peeling flesh pf radio two is right around the corner i'm sure you guys are going to be torn crazy on it is that the plan I know we're going to be on tour. When it comes out, it's not going to be our tour,

but we've got some crazy things lined up for a headliner next year. Yeah, for you. You'll hear about that besides here on Hardlboro, but we do have a crazy headliner working on next year. Yeah. Hell yeah. Okay. Have you been to Europe?

I, we have not been to Europe as a band. Peeling Flash has not toured Europe. No, we toured Europe with All Shall Parish in late November, early December. this year. So that'd be our first time. You're going this year. Yeah. All right.

I'm going to need you to make a little tour diary. Yeah. So that we can have you back on just to do another hour and a half just about that. I'm so down. I'm so down. PF Radio 2 is out soon. Peeling flesh. Unbelievable.

Let's talk sound in fury real quick before we log off. Yeah. I wanted to ask, you mentioned 3-6 quite a few times. Well, how did it feel getting off? stage and going to watch Project Pat. Oh, it was amazing. We talked to him a little bit before we played, and that was all the motivation we needed to play the set we played. We're like, hey, if you come over here, you'll probably hear your voice a couple of times

for these samples. And he's just the coolest guy. He said, he watched our set, and said we went hard as hell. And then we all just went over and just watched him play the most. I think that project Pat Sondon and Fury said was probably the craziest thing I've seen that was just so sick and he was not ready for it. He was not ready for the, he was not ready for the energy. The twerking and the diving, I think, caught him by surprise. Yeah, Martin said that once they kind of understood like, oh, this is, this is what it's going to be.

And they were just like, okay, cool, here we go. Yeah. How did you find your set, though? I absolutely loved our set. So here's my thing. Our first year at Center Fury last year, I was sick during our set. So I feel like I could have did better. So this year was my redemption year.

And I feel that was one of the best sets we ever played. Oh, yeah. It was incredible. We had way too much fun. It was great. It was amazing. It was amazing. We locked in.

We kind of formally met last year after you played. Yeah. And that set was incredible. So however you feel about it, I promise you it was good. This year was even better. Thank you. Yeah, man. I'm all in.

I'm a Pelling Flesh guy. I do have a request. I have one request. This is something we've kind of forgotten about on the show. But is there any way you could do it's hard Lord time in the peeling flesh voice into the mic? Yeah, I have this little terrible earphone. The mic right here. But it's hard more time?

Yeah. It's hard Lord time. unbelievable outstanding wow before we wrap up did you know that keith morris from circle drickson black flag came to sound infuri just to see peeling flesh

just to see peeling flesh yes that's what we heard someone told me he watched our set I didn't not know he was there just for us that's we were told that he was there for peeling flesh that is what yeah amazing that's insane I was just spoke that he was there. Spencer from Snuffed on site pointed him out.

He was like he watched you guys that said he was biving hard the whole entire time. But I didn't know he just came just for us. Just a fucking Keith Morris OG peeling flesh head, dude. I really like the samples. I really like the energy, you know. I really like when he does the squeal thing and all that. Well, this was unbelievable. De Montel, thank you so much for joining us.

This was a blast. Great time. PF Radio 2 is fucking coming soon, guys. Can't wait. It's going to whoop your ass. Now you go, please. Any closing remarks you want to leave the people with, please. Thank you all so much for having me.

PF Radio to come in soon, I think, September 26, 19, something. Something like that. Something like that. It's coming on September, late September. uh we're going to be on tour soon with uh our friends and lorna shore which is so crazy that all these fans are taking us yeah it's insane that the amount of bands are taking a slam band on tour can be more grateful for that um no shout out everybody walks with us no matter what genre you stick with if you're a hardcore fan sam-fan yeah thank you all

beautiful beautiful stuff thank you so much for joining us you're incredible can't wait to have you back at some point. Be afraid of two. Coming soon. Thank you all for watching. Thank you all for listening. We will see you next week. Bye.