HardLore - FYA Fest 2025

Starting point is 00:00:00 I was going to say it now, in case people turn off the episode, stop throwing water bottles on stage. So during the last portrait song, I just see water bottles being flung from the stage. I see it's Lumpy. And I just look at Lumpy with the meanest, like, I'm just like, and he's just like, what? I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:00:18 And I'm just like, yeah, just stop. And then I look over, and Brendan from Big Boy is literally running to the water case to get water. He, like, turns back around, and I'm just staring at him, like, blank in his face. He just goes, like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I was like, stop. Yeah, it was pretty fine.

Starting point is 00:00:55 Hello, welcome. It's Hardlord time. How are you, Bo? I'm doing great. Who do we got? Oh, my God. This is for the ages here. We've got a Hard Lord debut that has long awaited by me.

Starting point is 00:01:10 And a big comeback because FYA Fest was last weekend at time of recording. So we've got to bring back FYA creator Bob Wilson and for the very first time, our very good friend, the crown prince of Long Island, the man that now unites

Starting point is 00:01:32 the boroughs, John Scaling. Welcome, fellas. Thanks for having me again. Yeah. Fantastic now that you guys are here. Bob, you did it. It happened. It happened.

Starting point is 00:01:46 I want to I want to immediately jump into what you, the lengths that you went to to bring this amazing festival to a place that everyone was comfortable in. Yeah, I mean, so this spot specifically is one that I wanted, like, about, I don't even know, like before the summer. And I went down, I checked it out and it was perfect. And they're like, yeah, you know, what dates you're looking at? I told them and then there was a reptile expo for that weekend originally. And so, yeah, that's why it didn't happen there originally. And then, and like reptile expo in Florida, that's, that's the Super Bowl.

Starting point is 00:02:29 Yeah, exactly. That's bigger. That's way bigger on the Super Bowl. That's generational there, yeah. Have you been? To the Reptile Expo? Yeah. No.

Starting point is 00:02:39 There was a guy from around her who would bring his reptile rescue two shows in early 2000s, though. that was about as close as I got. Well, that's dark. Can you get reptile straight up cash at the Reptile Expo? I don't know the inner workings of it. I didn't really ask too much

Starting point is 00:02:56 because I was pissed off that they took my dates originally. But thank God, so the Reptile Expo was postponed, which I'm sure was devastating to the community. Yeah, they're never going to recover. And to the Orlando

Starting point is 00:03:09 Commerce community. Yeah. But it was moved, FYA was, I mean, you guys, you guys, you guys busted ass, you listened to the people, got it moved by some miracle. Congrats. It went, it went smoothly, wonderfully. We had a great time.

Starting point is 00:03:30 I loved the new venue. I think I, no, I know I preferred the new venue because there was so much more room. The food vendors you had were awesome. the, like, I mean, everything down to like multiple bathrooms. Like, everything was like better, I think, as a, as a show experience. So I think you did a really good job. And I really admire because I know I texted you when you were moving it. And I was like, I know this sucks, but you're definitely like, you're doing the right thing.

Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah, I mean, that's what it is too, like, even just trying to find a new spot. Like, there's a spot in Jacksonville that almost worked out. And then there were a couple other place in Orlando, but they were going to be outside. I was literally a week away from announcing at one point. And then the permits didn't work out so I couldn't do it. And then it was going to be at the outside spot there, which I was like not psyched on, but I was willing to just do just to make it fucking happen, whatever. So I think it ultimately ended up where I wanted it all along.

Starting point is 00:04:32 And it's still, I mean, it's just a warehouse. You know what I mean? Which is I don't really like like legit venues. So it was just that's where I won shows that happened. You know what I mean? Yeah, you could land a plane in there and I don't think anybody would notice. Yeah, this feels right. Scanlon, how many years have you been helping Bob with FIA now?

Starting point is 00:04:55 I think the first one I stage managed was what was the year, Bob, that was it, wasn't it the New York year that had like indecision and all that stuff? Was that the first one? because I think, trying to think. It wasn't the first year was at the Orphium. I think it was maybe the second year, right? Orphium is the tall stage, right?

Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I played there once. Yeah. That was in like, what was that neighborhood in Tampa? Ebor City. Ebor. Yeah, that was like,

Starting point is 00:05:29 them chickens, man. The chickens. Beautiful chickens. We played there. We played there with Soulfly once. And it went exactly as you might imagine. Yeah. So let's get into the weekend here.

Starting point is 00:05:44 You guys, you put together a great lineup, Bob. Scanlon, you managed the stage just so wonderfully. Thank you. I always feel so much safer on stage when I look over and see you managing it. Any bands go over? Oh, plenty. Yeah, they do it all the time. It's annoying.

Starting point is 00:06:02 Do you give them a wrap it up or do you just kind of? Yeah, you give him the red light? I tried. I'll give them a five minute warning, but a lot of the times it's just because of like people like shit breaking, like you might understand, you know? We'll get there. We will get there. I try not to penalize people for that. And it works out at the end, you know.

Starting point is 00:06:21 That's good. Beautiful. Yeah, was there, Bob, was there a like a hard curfew at that spot? No, that was the thing too. So in the outside area, the curfew is going to be like 10 or something like that. And then when I went down to do like a walk through, they're like, oh, yeah, the inside. The curfew is not until like 3 a.m. So I wasn't, it's not like the venue had to get us out of there.

Starting point is 00:06:43 I obviously just don't want people. Nobody wants Samash at fucking midnight a long day. Totally. But it's nice. Honestly. To your credit there, even though you had infinite curfew inside, we were in dinner at 10.45 p.m. Both nights. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:59 It's impossible, generally. So great work. Let's get into the weekend here. Yeah. And I want you, can we keep a counter of straight edge bands? Oh, yeah, I got it. I feel like it got up there at one point. There were a couple in a row at one point, which really felt good.

Starting point is 00:07:22 It's probably been years since that happened. So, yeah, it's a good sign. Well, it's coming back now, all right? We're going to keep a counter. And we'll get into it, but there was a trend this year that I really loved, especially with the opening bands. We'll get there, but it's in line with the straight-edge thing, and I think it's fucking awesome. Why don't we get into it right now with Home Invasion who opened day one?

Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah. No, I don't think they're straight-edge, but I'm sorry. Kind of ruin the straight-edge thing off the start. No, that's fine. They're just a hard Chicago band. Those guys have been around, you know, all doing different kinds of bands forever. Kyle, who plays guitar, has been in things. I've literally been seeing him around for, like, probably,

Starting point is 00:08:13 20 years at minimum. Yeah. And yeah, that was my first time getting to see them. I like the records, but especially live, I think. I don't think people really knew what it was going into it. And then a lot of people came up to me afterwards saying, like, how sick they were. And, you know, they actually want to check them out more now and everything like that. So that was a, because the first band of the first day, you know, everybody wants to mosh and get all

Starting point is 00:08:34 the nervous energy out, I feel like. So it was a good one for it. Because if I put them any later, people might have just skipped them or whatever. So, yeah, they were fucking great. I was glad that they played first. We were doing bullshit and we like just missed them. And I immediately went to their table. I was like, I'm so sorry.

Starting point is 00:08:52 Because again, I've known Farn and Kyle for like you said, like 20 years. But it was really cool to see. I don't remember the last time a new Chicago band played one of these fests. That seems like a rare concept. It's like, hold my own, which is mostly Chicago. and then, you know, that's kind of it. So it felt really good to see them. Crucial Kyle, little tidbit,

Starting point is 00:09:19 once practiced as the second guitar player for Harms Way in, like, 2007. Couldn't work out. Yeah, just like, yeah, just didn't, you know, when you're, like, getting a band together and, like, just sometimes, yeah, we got another guy, I don't know. Crucial Kyle sounds like somebody who's straight-edge.

Starting point is 00:09:36 Is that right? He's edge, yeah, I think he's vegan straight-edge, I believe. That makes sense. That's because when they were playing, he had two bottles of Dr. Pepper and a banana on his head. That's the only thing that was on his guitar. That's the international symbol of V. That's what keeps us going. Bob,

Starting point is 00:09:53 Bob, you have a, were those two bottles of Dr. Pepper from your private stash? No, I was strictly water all weekend because I used to just do what I normally do at the fest. And then I literally thought I was going to go into, like, diabetic shock by Sunday night. I was like, I can't be the old fest dude.

Starting point is 00:10:11 having to get like resuscitated or whatever at the best. So try to, you know, drink water. You're never going to believe this, but they have this thing called diet Dr. Pepper. No sure. Not familiar. Not really sure.

Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah, you got to check that. Bob, something I noticed from afar is how big your backpack is. You got Dr. Pepper's in there loaded up or what? There's nothing. No, no, no soda all weekend. At Del Taco at midnight afterwards, yeah, I'll indulge. That's good. Oh, it is.

Starting point is 00:10:39 Oh, fuck, it is, Pib. That's true. It is Pib. Come on, man. It's nice to switch it up every once in a while. I agree. Well, that Del Taco Pib mix is out of control. So, yeah. You did good.

Starting point is 00:10:50 Steamroll was next. New York straight edge band. That's one. Tell me about putting steamroll on. They, uh, yeah, Andrew Vicante, uh, sent me the demo like six months ago or something. I got asking if I would be down to put it out. And I literally, I actually, uh, forgot to hit them back at first. And then the next day I was like hoping that he didn't send it to other people to put it out in the meantime.

Starting point is 00:11:21 Because I listened, I was like, fuck. I was like, this is too good. I hope somebody doesn't snipe it. And yeah, they're just, I love that band. I put them out. And then I was curious how many people like knew them at this point or whatever because they, I think they only played like two shows or something. Oh, wow. But yeah, they were, they were great.

Starting point is 00:11:37 They opened with the straight head cover, which was fucking awesome. That couple of those. Yeah. So this is what I was alluding to earlier is we had a short. Straight ahead cover very early on. A floor punch cover really early on. The next day, I've been open with you to today. And they're all getting over, which feels good, you know?

Starting point is 00:11:57 But it makes me really happy that I feel like that kind of hardcore is at least getting the attention that I want it to get, you know. Oh, for sure. I mean, I think kids want that kind of hardcore because they're over, not completely over, but like all they know is like the heavy mosh stuff. They just don't know where to find it. you know what I mean? So I'm being like steamroll if you're there for some heavy shit you're like oh what the hell is this you know what I mean so dude Alec raised a good point that that there are bands who will do the youth crew thing and cover a youth crew song but then they play strife yes like their music is a strife song which is really

Starting point is 00:12:32 interesting but we're getting there this is all a good sign you know yeah amen we're we're headed in the right direction yeah ozone is next from texas 817 Fort Worth I think they're from yeah I've played with them like every time I've been in Dallas or Fort Worth the past few years. So it was cool to see Texas represented at these fest, which it isn't always. So good on you. Tell me about putting ozone on. Yeah, they, for some, like, I always want Texas stuff to come and play.

Starting point is 00:13:10 And it's just some, it either doesn't work out or the band is not available or whatever. So this is the first year in like a minute where a Texas band got to play. And those guys specifically like tying the band, like we would stay with him when we would go through on tour. with his old bands and things like that. And then those guys just always put on super hard for Fort Worth and that whole area. And those shows are always like really awesome there. So yeah, they had like the triple B stuff and everything. And I was like, it's time.

Starting point is 00:13:34 We got to fucking, they do so much for their scene. So I try as best as I can. Like if I see from from my point of view, if you're really putting on for where you're from and taking care of bands and they come through, I try to like do the best I can to return the favor and bring them out. So, yeah, they were all like going in. I thought the sell was great. And that's how it should be.

Starting point is 00:13:53 That's a great blueprint of how things should work. Put on for your home and others will take notice. Scanlon, any stage managing anecdotes thus far? It was just going to ask the same example. I'm trying to think. I just remember Eric from Steamworld being really, really nervous about playing guitar because he just usually doesn't do that, I guess. So I was watching him the whole set.

Starting point is 00:14:15 He was definitely a little statue, you know, but he got through it. It sounded great. I closely relate. to Eric from Steamroll, I understand your pain. It's very difficult to do. Wait, was ozone in Edgeband? I don't recall. No, I don't think so.

Starting point is 00:14:31 All right. We got one. Face the Pain is next. Detroit, a little bit of D.C. Yeah, okay. Yeah. A little bit of Philly in there now, right? Yep.

Starting point is 00:14:53 Yep. There's so much going on here. This is a band from all over. Traderge Band, I think. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. two. Derek Daniel

Starting point is 00:15:04 on the skins, the best in the game. Tell me about putting face pain on. Yeah, that's another band that I put out on Rebirth. And it's obviously just like a super group. I mean, you got Lennon on vocals,

Starting point is 00:15:17 doing like the most straightforward band he's done probably singing in. You know, Brad from TUI and, you know, a million other bands over the years. Derek, obviously Matt from Reckage from Connecticut.

Starting point is 00:15:28 It's, it's, yeah, it's just like, everybody in the band, Matt Kay from Magnitude and a bunch of other bands in North Carolina. So, um, it's,

Starting point is 00:15:35 I think that's like, when this, all of that kind of hardcore comes back full, like, like super strong. I think they're going to be one of the bands that it gets pointed to as, all right, this band existed and it got way more kids into it than they were into it before.

Starting point is 00:15:49 And then, yeah, they did, I was kind of worried because they did floor punch into Project X and not the other way around. So I was curious if the, like, dance floor justice is a hard. I mean,

Starting point is 00:15:58 who the fuck, you know, That's like such a hit or miss cover. That's like very rare to cover. Yeah. Totally. Kids fucking knew it. And it was awesome.

Starting point is 00:16:06 So it was really good set early on. What was the judge song they played? No, they did changes by floor punch and then right into dance war justice. Got you. That's great. Any stage managing anecdotes from face to pain? I'm glad that their set was only like 12 minutes.

Starting point is 00:16:24 It was nice. Save me some time. Same some time. Yeah, good. So keep it short. Keep it tight. Keep them one more. Alienator is next.

Starting point is 00:16:31 This is the coolest band. Truly had no idea what they sounded like. Yeah, same. And one of the sets I was looking forward to the most and it delivered. Tell me about putting Alienator on. Yeah, they shouldn't be an odd band out like on a hardcore show,

Starting point is 00:16:52 but obviously people, you know, whatever perceptions, just like, you know, things are like too punk for hardcore, whatever. But, I mean, you just watch them. It's just AF. And it's just fucking like, they look cool as shit on stage. It looked like they were dropped off by a spaceship from the 1991, like, live AF video shit,

Starting point is 00:17:10 like all looking cool as hell, like shaved heads. Like, they just looked awesome. And then you could tell kids didn't know what the hell was going on at first. And then they are just so good that people started like filing in and checking it out and rocking with it. And then a lot of people came up to me out towards. Like, I've never heard that band in my life, but I fucking love them. So, yeah. This is like a, this is probably a top five of the weekend for me.

Starting point is 00:17:31 Yeah. Any stage managing anecdotes from. alien? I've never seen the singer put down the mic but on the bass cab and he turned the base head off somehow and never seen that done before. So that was the first.

Starting point is 00:17:47 Any other stage? Oh, he was stuffing his shirt and his pants and I took him way too long. It was kind of weird. But their set was sick. Good set. Did it alienate you in some way? It kind of alienated me a little bit. No, it's fine. It's not just a clever name. That's job well done.

Starting point is 00:18:04 Killing Frost is up next. One of the best European hardcore bands in, I was going to say the world, but in Europe. Certainly in Europe. What is? Sweden? Finland? Finland, yeah. Finland. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:25 Strong scene in Finland. Tell me about putting Killing Frost on. I mean, yeah, it makes sense that you love them. I mean, obviously they're doing like a carnivore thing, share terror thing, like all that shit. And they, I actually emailed them like four years. Whenever the first thing came out, like begging them to come over and play, I was like, dude, I love your demo.

Starting point is 00:18:42 Please come to the States. Like, whatever you got to do to make it work, I just want to happen because I think you're being sick and everybody like needs to see it. And then I randomly got an email earlier this year, be like, because he never responded. He's like, hey, sorry for not responding the last time. But if you'd be down to have us, we're trying to like book a tour. So I was like, yeah, I mean, of course. So seeing a bunch of hardcore kids, Moss to a synth intro was one of the coolest things I've ever seen my life. And I think, yeah, again, like the dude with like the duster jacket fucking just looking cool as shit.

Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah. That's it. They definitely like, that's like one of the bands. I feel like the people came away with not really knowing anything about. And then it's just like a lot of kids like favorite band now, which is like perfect. You know what I'm saying? Totally. English needs to be your third or fourth language to pull off a duster like that.

Starting point is 00:19:31 Yeah. Now, Scanlan. Yeah. Were there any stage managing anecdotes you could share from. Killing Frost. Potentially, I think the first ever band at FWA to have a synth, I think. Wow. Does that make sense right, Bob?

Starting point is 00:19:46 No one else is playing keyboard up on there. It was someone actually playing it too. Come on, you got to help me here, but whatever. Yeah. I think that's sick you, right? I don't know. No, it's true. He was definitely the best dress of the fest.

Starting point is 00:19:59 That's for sure. Oh. The synth guy? Or the duster? The synth guy. He was the guy. That's the guy. I got you.

Starting point is 00:20:07 Extinguishes up next This is real Bay shit right here scientifically These are our boys Representing the Bay Here at last with a great new record From last year Tell me about putting Extinguish on

Starting point is 00:20:28 I've said it on a million things I feel like but I just think what the Bay is doing Is so fucking sick And every one of their bands does things Like in my opinion the right way in hardcore And I always liked the band And then they came through Philly And I was like

Starting point is 00:20:43 I like the record. I know I like them, but I want to see a live to like really sell it for me. And their set was so sick. And they just, yeah, it was,

Starting point is 00:20:51 it was just way, it made me like them even more. So yeah, I asked them at the show if they would be down to play and then they were obviously down. So I just like, same way,

Starting point is 00:20:58 like putting it on for other scenes. Like, if there's a pop and baby and, and I can like hook them up, like I'll do that every year if I can just because I love that. Yeah, you did the same thing with out of pocket last year. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:09 Spreading the wealth with extinguished this year. It's a, you're a good God. Bob. You got your ear to the ground. Now, Scamlin, you have any stage managing anecdotes from extended? I love having you here, Scam. Oh, that's great.

Starting point is 00:21:24 I wish I had more to give, but for this set, it was just fine, you know? Perfect. No, no issues. Everything was good. Sometimes things just go right. That's what you want. And sometimes, Colin, it's opposite day. Sometimes for me.

Starting point is 00:21:38 Sometimes you're me. Up next, guys, we got a real treat. We got silver. Oh, obsessed. Awesome, man. Tell me, fill me in on silver, please. I can't remember how even heard about them the first. I feel like maybe somebody posted like the record cover

Starting point is 00:22:02 or what they played with some bands, like whenever they went over to Europe last year or something like that. I can't, I straight up can't remember, but I was like, I, this looks crazy. I have to listen to this. And I fucking was like obsessed with it. And I don't know. They're from Italy?

Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, whoa, I didn't know. that. Yeah, which is just like, obviously, I've never had Italian band on the fest or anything. Like, I've been to Italy a couple of times, played some shows, but like, this is like, I mean, it has to be the best Italian band of a hardcore band of all time to me. Of all the time. And no Italian band has ever played at 3 p.m. before, I'll tell you that. No, fuck no. They're going to bed. That's bedtime. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's fucking, God. We legit. They were, Bob, what's the latest you ever played in, in Italy?

Starting point is 00:22:49 Italy, we actually didn't play that. We played super early in Italy when we played that show where I'm like climbing the fucking lights or whatever. That was like at like 6 p.m. somehow. But I never played other places in Europe we played super late. But Italy, I think we kept it nice and early.

Starting point is 00:23:06 That was the daylight savings thing. That was actually 6 a. The one Italian show we've ever played Doors were at 11 p.m. Jesus, fucking price, dude. Did anybody buy the $1,000, dollar jar of Silver's Pasta Marinerara?

Starting point is 00:23:23 I do not know that was even a thing but unfortunately. Silver hit me up. I'd like to make an offer. Like $8.99. Now you guys are both going to see them tomorrow and the next day, right? Are you booking them? Yeah. Yeah. Tell them I said what's up. They did so great.

Starting point is 00:23:40 Yeah, that's awesome. I heard a lot of people talking about this set. Yeah. Any stage managing anecdotes from Silver? Yeah, there's a few actually. Okay. The set started off. I won't name them. But this person threw uncooked pasta onto the stage.

Starting point is 00:23:56 And it was just everywhere. And I nicely asked them after the set to clean it up. And they said they would. And they didn't. And it stayed there all the way to the foundation. Oh, no. All no. I was wondering.

Starting point is 00:24:06 It's fine. I felt bad, mostly because of the person I'm about to talk about. But the guitar player, who I did not realize was just filling in. I thought they were also for Middle East, but it was actually just, I believe his name is. Colin. Were you like, Hello,

Starting point is 00:24:23 his guitar broke. And I was like, I got to go get a guitar for him. But I don't know why, but I was like, I don't know if he knows English. So I was giving him hand signals. I was like, I'll go get it. And then I told their drummer to keep going.

Starting point is 00:24:40 So they wouldn't lose any time. But when I came back, he was nowhere to be seen. So I just thought he was moshing. But then he came back on stage with the guitar. And then someone goes, oh, no, yeah. He plays in like, skin peeler. I was like, oh. Oh, my God. And then they cover

Starting point is 00:24:53 Dynamo, which is fucking sick. Dude, that's... No one knew it, but Dynamo's awesome. No, there's a couple of covers this weekend that were four, four people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome. Wow. Beautiful. Silver. Great job. Bad weekend for guys is the name Colin, huh?

Starting point is 00:25:11 Mm-hmm. God. Final resting place is up next. One of the best bands of 2024. So it was only fitting that they played. I'm glad you had them on, Bob. Tell me about putting Final Wrestling Place on. Yeah, I mean, they are obviously still relatively new band, but as soon as Dom sent me the demo,

Starting point is 00:25:39 I was like, this is music for people to beat the living shit out of each other, too, which is perfect. And their sets around here have been, like, crazy right off the bat, obviously, you know, like, if I put this in front of a fest, like, crowd, it's just going to be mayhem. And, I mean, obviously, little Alex is the fucking man. I was glad he finally got the play and then yeah Dom's played

Starting point is 00:26:01 before Sima Locker and other stuff but this is like this set was just ridiculous The homie devil master Oh John McCle Skiner He's legend What are you saying Beau? I was saying they sounded absolutely crazy

Starting point is 00:26:17 Yeah It was the first real set that I got to like stand and watch Of the day because I was running around But it was like I remember just being like Holy shit I didn't know he could do all that vocally. They sounded crazy. Dom is a maniac.

Starting point is 00:26:32 I had no idea. He's doing squeals and all kinds of shit. I don't know. He's got demons, man. He's got, he's letting it all out. Great stage presence as well. So entertaining to watch. You know why?

Starting point is 00:26:45 Why? God tier mosh. My great mosher. Yeah, there you go. Now, Scanlon. Yeah. What can you tell me anecdotally about what happened from a stage manager perspective? Uh, obviously I saw the set that was crazy, but I was too fixated on the amount of swag they have.

Starting point is 00:27:03 They're all wearing these crazy shoes. I've never even fucking seen before. They're all crazy colors. Mike's wearing an Arctyric's jacket in Florida and shorts. Doesn't make any sense. Psycho. He's riffing. It was a great set, you know.

Starting point is 00:27:16 You got the homie devil master there. The homie devil master. Enchanting the world. Tupped in shirt. You know, he's just doing what I did. I do hope final wrestling place. the chance to play way more metal shows because I think that world will accept them. And I've been trying to get them to play more metal shows myself and it's kind of been working.

Starting point is 00:27:36 So I do hope they get to ride that wave soon. You put them on that cell phone marauder show coming up, right? Yeah, that one. And then I had them on a, um, you're sick. A mortician show. And it was good. Oh, wow. Well, not both because the suffocation show hasn't happened yet.

Starting point is 00:27:51 But I'm sure that will be great. Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait personally. Yeah, come out. It'll be fun. Yep. Bad Beat is next.

Starting point is 00:28:02 Straight Edge. Three. We got three. This is Detroit's, the golden children of Detroit right now. Bad Beat, who brings you tied down every year, is here at F.A. Playing for the very first time. Tell me about putting Bad Beat on. Yeah, as Jimmy said, I think they played 10 minutes, like Max.

Starting point is 00:28:32 He said hardcore 10 minutes or lesser. free or whatever he said and uh that's right you just you know you need bands like that i feel like on fast to switch things up and uh the record's great the triple b record and then i just i like everything that the band's doing and uh jimmy obviously does a great job to tie down every year him and kirtis and then so again like being able to return the favor for everything that he puts into his scene and if his band sucked i would just ignore it obviously but his band being sick is awesome they're good yeah i literally love the band so um yeah i'm glad they exist because you know, there's obviously not a

Starting point is 00:29:06 band, not a lot of bands I got doing what they're doing, so it's cool seeing kids going off so hard for them. They, and they have an early mid-2000 locking out thing, like riff-wise, that I have a mental thing. That I have missed

Starting point is 00:29:22 dearly, you know. It's great. Even like planet mental shit, you know, like later stuff, it's all in there, and I love it. I had a blast. It's a beautiful. It's a beautiful thing. Now, Scanlon. Yeah. From a stage manager perspective, are there any anecdotes that come to mind? You know, short and sweet, I was really happy about it.

Starting point is 00:29:45 Kind of going off what Bob said before. At this point of the fest, I was like, I'm glad all the bands that have played up to this point have all been kind of different. It keeps you kind of interested. You know, being up there on the stage, you can get a little bored if every band sounds the same. 100%. I'm happy it was all different kinds of hardcore. Yeah, how's like, how's your back? knees and feet.

Starting point is 00:30:06 They don't exist. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Sure. Got it. Did you happen to notice that Bad Beat's bass tone was like really, really good? Uh, really good.

Starting point is 00:30:15 Really good. Yeah. And why would that be? Oh, they're using the HW2, the Bo Luter's, uh, wonder effects crossover pedal. It's not a big deal. Who was next, Colin? Uh, Scarab was up next, which is why it's such a cool. I mean, look at this.

Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah. Extinguished Silver final resting place Bad Beat Scarab. You're like alternating vibes. I can tell how intricately you laid this out, Bob. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of switching things around and seeing what makes sense. So it actually ends up working out well. How long does that process take you? Way too long.

Starting point is 00:30:54 I'll send it and be like, yo, am I an idiot? There's this order makes sense. Like check myself with Scanlan and other people make sure I'm not tripping with putting a band after something that might smoke home or anything like that. Yeah. Yeah. How are you always trying to kind of protect bands in that way? In general, I want to put bands in a position where, like, they're just set up for as much success as possible. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:31:21 Like, I never want to, like, if I know a band is going to have, or I really feel like a band is going to have a crazy set of all the time. Like, I'm not going to, like, get somebody, like, smoke right after them or put a band too late where people won't be sticking around for them or whatever. Like, so, yeah, there is a lot of thought into, like, literally every single band. I'm like, all right, is this like the best possible position for them to get the best reaction? You know what I mean? And people actually in there watching them. Beautiful. Beautiful.

Starting point is 00:31:46 I guess it's not too dissimilar, Colin, is it from the sequencing of a record? Totally. You know? What suits the greater presentation overall, the best. Scarab is next. Scarab was the 2024 best new band Hardware Award winner. Outstanding. Can't wait for it to hear a new record.

Starting point is 00:32:04 Mully's voice, perhaps the most psychotic and most fitting. knowing the inner workings of his mind. I think you mean the 2023. That's what I meant. Yeah. Yeah, the guy's a sick fuck. The homie devil master is back. Scarab rocks.

Starting point is 00:32:24 Tell me about putting Scarab on, Bob. They just, I mean, they're like my favorite Philly bands since like probably Blacklisted. And they just, if I was like a teenager, that would be straight up, I would, I mean, I still kind of do. Like, I would follow them around. like the fucking Grateful Dead. Like, I just think everything they do is like perfect to me and exactly the one out of a

Starting point is 00:32:43 hardcore band. And Tyler's like, you know, he's not up there just like spouting some bullshit. Like he actually, you know, is very careful about all his lyrics and everything about it. And then, you know, Lennon's a fucking mad genius with what he's writing and what he's bringing to the table. Is Lennon writing a lot of that? Yeah, yeah. I think it's mostly him and Tyler and him and Tyler Bresla who plays drums now.

Starting point is 00:33:05 Tyler, I just kind of met there this week. weekend and had a nice conversation with he's fucking awesome. Scarabble locks. And Bob, I bet if you had a label, you would put out just like everything. I would love him. Oh.

Starting point is 00:33:19 Many have tried, but they're staying loyal, which is, which is nice. I also saw Tower do something. I've never seen a person do when they're playing, which was karate kick, uh,

Starting point is 00:33:30 the backup mic. He didn't kick. I've never seen somebody attempt in my life. And then he missed the first time and then he connected the second time. That was a highlight for me with that. Fantastic. Was it like a karate kick, like the way a trophy would be? I don't even know.

Starting point is 00:33:46 I, I watch it. I need to watch the video or something like that. I was like, I've never seen somebody do that while they're playing in my life. So it was very crazy. I've only kicked over it, you know? Yeah. He had a direct, he had a mission there.

Starting point is 00:34:02 Now, see, something like that, I wonder, from a stage manager perspective. anecdotally how one would feel about that. You know, I was actually going to bring up the karate kick because that's what's stuck in my brain the whole time. I was pretty upset. He disrespected the mic stand, but it was cool. It was fine.

Starting point is 00:34:20 It looked cool. I'm just going to go to Tyler is doing a band again. That's my actual real response. It's great. What's the most annoying thing about the duties of a stage manager for all fests like that? Close your ears, Bob. But the dude who sets of sound,

Starting point is 00:34:35 the equipment's always really fucked up to begin with and everything gets unplugged so quickly there it's like actually insane yeah um so I'm constantly just plugging back in monitors or ripping up cables and all that shit so putting out fires starting fires you know it's all

Starting point is 00:34:57 renaissance man yeah and you were pretty close to the homie devil master during Scarab right me yeah And he looks so cool. So everything is so cool. Yeah, that's great. He's the map.

Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah. So Missing Link is next. What a set. What a band. What an album. What a year they've had. It was only right that I felt like they played F.Y.A. this year. So this is Ear to the Ground, Bob doing his thing again.

Starting point is 00:35:32 Tell me about putting Missing Link on, Bob. There a band that was, like, kind of, like, last on the chopping block, like, the last, like, year or two. And, like, I always felt so bad because I was, like, I love this band. Every time I go to a show, like, I'm, like, watching them. I'm up front. Like, everything about them sick. And then I was like, fuck, man, I just don't have room for them this year. Or they, you know, I think the one year to play the pre-show and all the stuff.

Starting point is 00:35:53 So I was like, all right, now that the record's out, they need to just fucking play. Yeah. And the record, to me, I liked everything they did up until this point. But the record is unbelievable. It's like probably my favorite LP that came out last year. You'll hear about that and much more next week on the Hardlaw Awards. There we go. Incredible band.

Starting point is 00:36:11 Unbelievable set. This is maybe one of their best. By the end, all the people are piling on attacking Mike who sins, which is his dream. And I wonder something like that happening, how a stage manager would react and respond to that. Anecdotally, of course. You know, it's definitely not my favorite thing when people do the pylon and then they just start moshing because I have to, you know, kind of make sure I don't get hit. Especially during Missing Link, it's like I can catch a lot. stray at any point.

Starting point is 00:36:46 And then there may be no stage left to manage. Exactly. But no, everything was good. Everything. Everyone was safe. I'm glad missing Link at one point had four Long Island members, so I consider them a Long Island band.

Starting point is 00:36:59 And I'm happy another Long Island band's doing well. So there go. Let's talk about Chris McCarthy for a second. He's amazing. Is there a better guy in the world? No. I don't think so.

Starting point is 00:37:12 I mean, yeah, I literally don't think so. He's always so happy. He fucking loves eating cheeseburgers. He's just fucking awesome, dude. And you're going to hear about that so much more. We got a couple stories coming. Big boy is up next. The Bay is back.

Starting point is 00:37:36 Big boy, it feels like another staple at this point. Like, of course, you got to put him on. Yeah. Unbelievable couple years they've been having while operating like a fucking Japanese hardcore band by just putting little EP out, little EP out, little EP out. So cool.

Starting point is 00:37:52 Coolest vibe. Coolest style. This is another band that's swagged and sauced out of their goddamn minds. Tell me about putting Big Boy on, Bob. Yeah, I mean, that's, you know, same way I say earlier about extinguish. Like, you know, Joseph, I think this is probably

Starting point is 00:38:07 as like sixth F-WA period, like in a row or something insane. And, uh, yeah, again, like, I just, that whole squad, I love them and then I love all their bands. And Big Boy is just, if, if you see Big Boy and it's, you don't instantly have like every song, like, like Ace of Spades, like, I haven't really listened to it that much, you know, just in general, but I know every fucking word just from like them playing it every time and everything I get.

Starting point is 00:38:31 And then, yeah, I mean, they're just, they'll always have good reactions. I can't wait for, I hope they have a new record coming out this year because I feel like that'll, you know, make them even bigger. And yeah, it's just a great hardcore band. Brendan, he continues tradition of launching things off the stage. I guess actually there's somebody here who could probably speak to that more. But, um, interesting. But, yeah, it was a great set as always. Now, when things are launched, I'm curious, anecdotally, what the perspective would be if you

Starting point is 00:39:05 were managing that stage that things were being launched from. Well, I will say that this is the set that piss the sound guy off the most. Oh, really? Do tell. Any offense to a sound man is the story I want to hear. Yeah, I actually missed it because my eyes were watching another part of what was going on. but a little secret is this year I actually had an assistant stage manager. His name was Mark.

Starting point is 00:39:29 What? Very nice guy. He goes, Oh my God. FaceTime is the best. Get him on FaceTime. We need to hear it. Yes.

Starting point is 00:39:36 Go down the drain. Good guy. You know, he's a good guy. But anyways. Love him. So I look up and the sound guy is just on stage yelling at Mark kind of. And Mark's just like, I don't know. And I was just, what the fuck is going on?

Starting point is 00:39:49 And I realized the mic was just completely ripped from the cable, which is like, oh, okay, whatever. microphone's probably just on the ground. After the set, Mark's like, I go to the market. I was like, oh, why was he like yelling? He's like, dude, did you see what Brendan did? I was like, no. He's like, so the mic broke. And instead of just like throwing the mic behind him, I guess he just launched it into the

Starting point is 00:40:08 crowd, like just straight through the whole microphone. So I understand why the sound guy was mad. If I saw it, I probably would have laughed and then just I would be annoyed because I'd have to get offstage and run and try to find it. But, you know, it came back eventually. Was the mic itself broken or just the XLR? No, the XLR. The XLR was still, like the top of the XLR was still in the mic. Oh, honestly impressive.

Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, that's pretty good on the 58 for sure. Bad solder is all, you know? It's easy. Easy fix. Yeah. That's awesome. Thank you. I will have to say there's a story later during torture where something funny with me and Brendan happened, but I was going to say it now in case in case people turn off the episode. Stop throwing water bottles. Oh. That's it. We'll go into it later during torture, but.

Starting point is 00:40:52 Okay. I'm just saying now. Got it. A little foreshadowing. So this is a professional stage manager sharing anecdotally his thoughts on throwing water bottles. It needs to end. This is the official stance. Promoter.

Starting point is 00:41:07 Just in general. Everything. Just no more. This is John Scanlon's official thoughts, which I generally share all thoughts with John Scanlon. I'm with John Scanlon. I'm with him. So that means that's the official hardlaw perspective as well. I got you, Scanlon.

Starting point is 00:41:24 Thank you. Of course. Internal bleeding is up next. Continuing the tradition that you started last year of having a classic, prolific, iconic, breakdown-filled death metal band play FIA. I love that you did this. I love that internal bleeding got to have this moment in front of a spin-kick-friendly crowd, which they may only ever get that.

Starting point is 00:42:02 otherwise when booked by Scanlon. But this is in Florida, you know, the home of death metal, really. So tell me about putting internal bleeding on. Straight edge thing. Sure. Yeah, totally. Totally. They, yeah, obviously, like, I don't want to just be like, okay, I got to do this kind of band every year.

Starting point is 00:42:24 But after last year, I was like, all right, I feel like we could probably run something back and then just watch people whoop each other's asses for like 25 minutes. And I was, yes, I was like, all right, we got torture, we got, found a wrestling place. I feel like this is the year. It makes sense. And I basically just wanted them to play so Dom and Little Alex could beat the shit out of the crowd the whole time. And they wore matching jackets, like fluorescent yellow jackets to make themselves seen, I think. And just getting to watch them just ruin day after day after day was so worth it.

Starting point is 00:42:58 And, yeah, they played the Grid Iron Record release in Detroit. wait like a few years ago and that was like the first time i was like watching people actually get to mash for them i was like they need to play like another like arbor show soon yeah and then just it took a little bit obviously but yeah like it's it's just made for for ass kicking so i'm sorry i'm boring you bow but um got him fuck they did alien breed is one of the hardest songs ever written by a band and i think if you've not heard it, please pause this, maybe even stop this and listen to it for the rest of

Starting point is 00:43:36 the day. Welcome back. Wasn't that a great song? Now, Scanlan, as a lifelong fan and friend of internal bleeding, somebody who's booked them more than maybe any other living promoter, tell me about, from your

Starting point is 00:43:52 perspective, as a stage manager now, this internal bleeding set. I was, I don't say I was worried for them, but I just like they're definitely I don't want to say they're obscure but they're not a household name to a casual

Starting point is 00:44:08 death metal fan you know what I mean slam whatever so I was kind of worried it was funny because the singer was watching missing Link and on the stage he was just like shaking his head I was like what's up he's like oh dude like this isn't my shit at all

Starting point is 00:44:21 like we're fucked and I was like no you'd be fine so they got up they were doing their thing and the people were loving it you know I think they held their own I'm happy that people, they had a ton of people watching them. It was great. The band afterwards, they said they fucking were so excited.

Starting point is 00:44:38 They actually got the play. And they couldn't have asked for a better response. So, you know. Just another common Chris McCarthy W here. Yeah. I love the singers, this thing, during the blast parts. Suffocation, dude. Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 00:44:55 It's just carrying on Long Island tradition, really. Yeah. Yeah. Also, it was funny just watching, like Bob was saying, Kid Alex and Dom looking like Thing 1 and Thing 2, just watching exactly the same way, dressed the same. Well, that's what, like, SSD used to shave and paint X's on the back of their heads so that when they would go into the pit, they would know who each other were, so it's not to hit each other. Do not hit. Yeah. Do not hit. Yeah. That's good. It's a good system. Set of the weekend is up next, I think, for me, at least.

Starting point is 00:45:28 Death Threat, performing live with original drummer, Jamie Muckenhoft, who recorded Last Days and Peace and Security. I watched him basically the entire time, and I don't think, I think I'm wrong now, because I think the 2019, this is hardcore

Starting point is 00:45:50 he also played for, and I was there. But this is the second time I've gotten to see him play for Death Ret. And what a beautiful thing this was. Reaction was insane. This is like the quintessential death threat set to me now, just as a fan. So Bob, I wonder as a lifelong fan and supporter, how that just feels like, okay, I put them on this fest. You're watching this set from stage.

Starting point is 00:46:19 You're seeing it go off better than you or they could ever have imagined. How does that feel? It's awesome. You know, like, I mean, yeah, probably, I think I was like 15, 14 to 15 when peace and security came out. And I was just, my friend played it on the way to some show. And I was like, dude, this is the best band I've ever heard in my life. Now, the only CD you had in the car. So we listened to that, the entire way to Philly and the entire way back to the Burbs.

Starting point is 00:46:42 And I've been, like, obsessed on them ever since. And, yeah, I mean, they played up way before. But, like, it was at the Orphielum with, like, the super tall stage and everything like that. And I was like, I want to run it back with the better environment, you know, for stage diving and everything like that. And then, you know, they've been a band since when they started, 97 or 98, whatever. 97. And so, you know, 28 years as a fucking band and getting that kind of reaction still, Aaron just is the coolest looking frontman of all time.

Starting point is 00:47:10 I don't think he wears, like, it'll be the middle of summer and he'll wear like a fucking jacking pants and not be sweating like one bit. I don't understand. Like he's just the coolest frontman ever. I noticed that. Yeah, just seeing them get that kind of reaction with like new kids going off and everything. Yeah, it was fucking great. It's beautiful. The pit.

Starting point is 00:47:27 Sorry. I was just going to say the whole set was great. It was curated for a wonderful experience. That last like four song rock block was actually crazy and one of the best, certainly the best time I've ever seen that play. It was like never again, uh, God and government, outcast, disgrace, dead at birth, I think was like the last. Brotherhood.

Starting point is 00:47:52 Brotherhood. Oh my God. Yeah, it was fucking awesome. It was awesome. That was insane. Uh, yeah, the stage was full of like, Connecticut OGs, which was really cool too. A lot of people in that room that I would not be sitting here without.

Starting point is 00:48:06 So it just felt like a very full circle thing. Now, from a stage manager perspective, there's a lot to manage during that one. How do I forget? Tell me about the death threat set, Scanlon. So before they played, they were having issues with, like, his guitar. And at the Cole World Show in Brooklyn,

Starting point is 00:48:26 they had a huge issue with that. So luckily, they were able to figure it out. That's something to do with the wireless, you know, like the bass player and the guitar player on the same channel. You got to find out how that works. I don't know that shit. The RF, they were sharing one RF frequency, which is big no-no. Yeah, so

Starting point is 00:48:42 I'm glad we troubleshooting that before the set actually started. But yeah, other than that, that's definitely when the stage started to get a little mobbed and I tell Bob every year, he's got a higher stage security, because I don't want to deal with kicking people off, but fine, held my own. It was good.

Starting point is 00:48:58 No issues. Everything is good. This part, I filmed this part during Brotherhood, and I want everybody to know. Like, this is seeing Jamie play this part firsthand, but also the way that Steve jumps and hits it without a count. Yeah, there's no count. Blows my mind. Here's this little clip I took. Unbelievable.

Starting point is 00:49:27 Can you believe that, guys? That we all just saw. I like, thank you, Bob. I like seeing my little arm reach out in that clip. That was good. Stout is up next. God damn, Bob, you got them. You made it happen.

Starting point is 00:49:49 Yeah, it felt like a long time coming. Tell me about A, making it happen, B, the set day of. It's just, like, I used to, when I first started booking shit, I always get pretty bummed when I would ask bands to play and it might be able to figure it out

Starting point is 00:50:02 and kind of just like not respond or whatever. And then I realized, obviously, people have real life shit going on or, you know, the timing just doesn't work, whatever. So I don't mind, I'm very persistent if I really think a set will be good for the band or I personally just want to see them or book them. I'll literally, like, there's bands I throw text to like literally once or twice a year

Starting point is 00:50:21 just to be like, all right, how about now? How about now? I'm like, I'm always like, tell me no. It's totally fine. And I, you know, I'm like, I know I'm being fucking annoying as shit. But see, that's just something that I tried for, I don't even know, probably as long as a fest has been going. And then I got an email from one of their friends being like, hey, heard you've been

Starting point is 00:50:39 trying to do stout for a while. Like, are you interested this year? because I'm like trying to help and do shit and I was like dude for love of God yes what's fucking work this out and so yeah

Starting point is 00:50:50 I just I was when I was like I was psyched on how things are going with the fest and actually were probably one of the first bands I confirmed they dropped off the fest

Starting point is 00:50:58 and then reconfirmed and then dropped off and reconfirmed probably three or four times and I was like all right if there's another band I would just be like I whatever

Starting point is 00:51:06 it would just call it a day but I was just like I if you can make it work just I will be patient I don't give a fuck which it's like it. And yeah, to seeing the stage is, you know, obviously Scalwin

Starting point is 00:51:16 can do more of this, but I mean, like, that's probably the best reaction I've seen them have. Like, people, I've seen them have scarier reactions, but it's like five people just beating the shit out of the crowd. This is us like a whole room was moshing, people were screaming every fucking word, like, pile-ons, whatever. So, in my opinion, is the best

Starting point is 00:51:32 out of that I've seen. And just the collection of hooligans on stage for them and just psychopaths just made the vibe so awesome. Like, I at one point I looked over and Scanlan was just like, there's like seven just like old, old Baltimore dude just grabbing the mug screen in the words.

Starting point is 00:51:49 And I was, it was fucking killing me because he was just getting overpowered, which was, which was awesome. Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. Base player had a massive primer, primus sticker on the back of his bass neck,

Starting point is 00:52:01 which so I immediately knew I was in for a treat. And also just confirmed what I already knew that the band was incredible. Had no idea that was the Slum Lords guy. Yeah. Just didn't know. Never put it together. Wasn't it mostly stout?

Starting point is 00:52:17 Wasn't it the drummer and the bass player? I think both were in Slum Lards, yeah. The bass player is very recognizable. Yeah. So when I saw them as, when I saw Slumlords as a young man, he's, I went, oh, this is the same guy. It was crazy. Now, Scanlon.

Starting point is 00:52:35 How about you share your perspective as a stage manager? About the Stout set. Yeah, I mean, I was. I wish I could give more, but I was engulfed by like 10 drunk Baltimoreians, just singing their heart out. Which can you blame them, you know? No, no. You know, I book old school New York harker bands all the time. So I'm used to just dealing with that all the time, you know.

Starting point is 00:53:02 But they were scaring me a bit because at one point that you turned around. He's like, you're not in the friend group. And I'm like, I'm just working. I'm just working. Someone said you're not in the friend group? They turned around and they're like, you're not in the friend group and I'm like, I'm just working. So I thought I was going to catch a classic stout, but everything was fine. The last time I saw a stout, I got my tooth chipped, so I'm glad that didn't happen this time.

Starting point is 00:53:30 Excellent. How's that tooth now? Half of it is fake. Oh, good, good. It's bad. Fury is up next. Fury, death threat stout fury, just an insane The dichotomy here

Starting point is 00:53:44 Or trichotomy? Yeah, try. Outstanding. Tell me about putting Fury on. This is California Modern Classic at this point. They've been a band for, what, 11 years now?

Starting point is 00:54:05 When was the last time they played F.Y.A. It was an orfume year. I don't even know, honestly. It might have been the year God's Eplead the first time. 16. Yeah, I think that was literally the last time they played. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:17 It's crazy. So, yeah, I mean, they just, not that they ever went away, but I feel like people have a newfound appreciation for them in the last couple of years. And they played Triple B last year, and it was like one of the best sets I've ever seen them play. Wow. Yeah, and they're just, I love them. And then they're just, they were very needed at the time. And then they're definitely very needed now.

Starting point is 00:54:39 Just like, yeah, just playing that kind of hardcore, which is like not a lot of bands doing it. And, yeah, I mean, playing after death threat and stout, I don't envy any band, obviously, but they held it down, and then people were super psyched for them, and, you know, the set was fucking great. I have a picture of when Alex showed up before their set, and he said, yo, check out my drum gear. He opened up a tow bag to a pair of drumsticks and, like, a protein bar. That's all he brought. That sounds like him. One pair.

Starting point is 00:55:12 But, man, he's Dr. Phil, you know. Hmm. Got it. Unbelievable. Scanlon, tell me about a stage managing Fury. I felt bad for Alfredo, man. Yeah, I was that same head that you dealt with to talk about later. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:28 A little foreshadowing on the rest of the weekend. Yeah. Some kind of power issue. We'll get, we'll figure it out. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, it ended up being fine. Alex did have to yell to lower Alfredo in his monitor like multiple times, which was pretty funny. But yeah, the set was awesome. That Power Mount is an amazing record.

Starting point is 00:55:48 Amazing record. Went over Great at FIA. And I'll tell you something that always goes over great at FUA. That's the next band. Mind Force. I think if they play 2026, Bob, they got a headline. There's not many other places they can go at this point. I mean, they've just been dominating the fest for,

Starting point is 00:56:17 I don't even know how long many years now. I can't remember. Yeah, that's their residency, is it, annual show. Yeah, I mean, I just, they're just such a fucking sick band, and the reaction's always crazy, and people always do wild shit when they play, and then Jay just calling for more craziness the whole time. And then, yeah, I just-

Starting point is 00:56:38 Beautiful. Yeah, I mean, just, them dudes, like, I just love, I love all the guys in the band. I think it's fucking, I don't know, I'm glad of all bands that have played this many years in a row. It's them. Because, yeah, it's always like insanely consistent and it always won up a year before. I mean, they might have to this headline next year.

Starting point is 00:56:56 I don't really know what else I can do with them. I mean, they literally have just dominated the fest for half a decade. Love them. Love getting to watch them. Love talking to them. They're all in great other bands at this point. One of, two of which played the next day. But this Mindforce set, one of the best.

Starting point is 00:57:16 This is one of the only double pit sets, I think. from this FAA. Three, see? Yeah, we got three. Maybe the only triple pit set. I would love to see them in a headline positioning. If it's not FWA, just somewhere at some point, I think it's time. I think they can hold their own with any.

Starting point is 00:57:39 Now, Scanlon. Yeah. Tell me, from your mind and your point of view, from an anecdotally spoken perspective, stage managing mind for us well I was I was a little bummed because I forgot to mention before when the older guy bands start playing

Starting point is 00:58:00 usually a little bit slower on setting up so we were like 20 minutes behind and Nick the bass player was just nowhere to be found for like a solid 10 minutes so that's up other than that they killed it you know it's great which that's just that's the stage management

Starting point is 00:58:17 management anecdote for mind force. Yes. As a stage manager. As a stage manager, you know, I just wish you're on time. Yeah, right. But other than that, you fucking killed it. Yeah. Outstanding. There it is. Beautiful. Pardon this interruption. This episode is brought to you by Manscaped. So then you're going to put like eagles and explosions there.

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Starting point is 00:59:01 Let me hear that eagle one more time. Outstanding. Foundation is next. They're back. The only ban that could follow Mindforce. Pretty much the sentiment straight edge band. So that's one more for the counter.

Starting point is 00:59:23 Four for the day. That's right. They're back. our good buddy champ back on the skins. Just, this, I feel like this really delivered, exceeded expectations from my mind. I think one of the devotion three sing-along was one of the loudest things I've ever heard.

Starting point is 00:59:44 Like from a, from a pure scientific decibel standpoint. You've got two generations here who have missed foundation in Tyro. Yeah. We were talking. talking about this. There was after they broke up pre-COVID

Starting point is 00:59:59 and then post-COVID, the boom of kids who got into hardcore like during and after COVID. There's two booms that missed them here. Two booms. And then the whole generation that was there throughout their checkered

Starting point is 01:00:15 the journey through bandom. But yeah, they're back. They're not done. They're playing House of Disorder. But this This was there. They played one show in Atlanta as like a surprise thing in December. This was the big one.

Starting point is 01:00:32 This was the big event. Headlining Day 1 of FAA. Bob, tell me about putting this together, putting them on the set from your perspective. How you're feeling now about it? Yeah, I mean,

Starting point is 01:00:44 I feel like I tour with them probably like three or four times. Just like, but I feel like they tour with everybody three or four times. But like, always got along, always like the band. Yeah, they're always great and uh so that's like another band that i've been punishing for a few years like

Starting point is 01:01:01 yo like i know you know you guys said never but just throwing it out there like i would do it whenever you want i just i think it would be awesome there's so many kids that missed out on you guys yeah because they went out at the the height of them as a band i think like because obviously existed for a while and then they just get you know by the end especially with the last EP was like they're like peak so it's like put out your best record yeah and then your last tour is your best tour. Well, one wonders if that's because they said it was their last tour.

Starting point is 01:01:29 Of course. That's always how it goes. But in the moment you're experiencing that and you're like, fuck, this is what it can this is what being a band can be like. That's crazy. I understand. Yeah, they, so

Starting point is 01:01:42 yeah, so this year I threw out the yearly text and I was just trying to like go through what I want to do and he's like, I actually think this might be able to work and he gave me like a week and I was like, I was a productive text or a cool. And then literally week later, I think we can make this happen, like, blah, whatever. And I'll just like, all right, let's fuck, let's fucking run it.

Starting point is 01:02:00 Whose ear are you grim a worm tonguing into? Champ. Champ. What the hell? Am I what? Don't worry about it. Champ's standing. I got it.

Starting point is 01:02:14 Yeah, he just, so, yeah, it actually, like, once it got going, it, like, probably within, like, a week and a half, everything was, like, confirmed and good to go. And from the start, they were like, hey, you know, we probably went. to do like a hometown thing first. I was like, if there's any band that really puts on from where they're from and like, like, make the thing, it's, it's them. So again, dude, like, I would feel like an asshole if, you know, you guys want to do this. I'm like, fuck, no, you have to play my thing first. You know what I mean? So I was just like, it's really fine. I was like, let me at least put it as long as I'm the first one that announces it, you know, you want to announce later on. That'd be awesome. And, uh, I felt bad at a point because

Starting point is 01:02:45 there's a time when I was going to have to switch the weekends. So I was just like, yo, like, if you can make this work, you know, I'm sorry. This is like your, your first show back. and it's like a fucking, you know, nightmare with logistics and stuff. And they're always down, like, we'll make whatever happen. You know, it's going to be in different cities, different whatever. And they're always down to just to do it. So I'm glad they're patient with everything and it worked out the way it did. And, yeah, you never, with a band like that, you know, there's a lot of pressure, I feel like.

Starting point is 01:03:11 And then you don't want to be the guy that convinces the band to do it. And then they come back and it's just fucking, like, horrible. So I never thought it would be bad, but I was just like, maybe I'm just insanely wrong. I don't know anything about anything. And it was probably the best set I've ever seen them play. Yeah, 100%. It was especially the last three song block. It's like, Jesus, fucking Christ, dude.

Starting point is 01:03:32 That's another thing about the work you put in about switching the venue is not switching the weekend. We talked briefly. You were almost going to have to switch the weekend. Were there many or any bands that were like not going to be able to do it, if that were the case? There was one band. I think Killing Frost was one band that was like, this is the only time you can do it. But like, just let us know as soon as possible. like every other band I was trying to keep

Starting point is 01:03:55 texting fucking 37 bands was truly punishing but every time people be like yo we'll work with whatever just let us know whatever so everybody's really cool about everything and understood the situation only one out of 37 yeah yeah yeah now what I wonder is

Starting point is 01:04:11 when something like this foundation set is happening and people are piling onto the stage and singing loud and things are breaking and things are crazy what a stage manager's perspective is anecdotally.

Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah. Or something like this. You know, just on my toes, getting ready for something to break. Surprisingly, the mic didn't go out once, you know? Everything was perfect. They had an insane amount of pylons as one would expect, you know?

Starting point is 01:04:41 Yeah. Old school, Ospo. You know, everything was good. I was surprised they did not play, pray for Atlanta. It was very, very surprising. Maybe they're saving that one for Atlanta only from now or something? I don't know. You would think prayers from non-Atlantans are what they're looking for here, you know? Yeah, people in Atlanta are already thinking about Atlanta.

Starting point is 01:05:01 Yeah, they're consumed. They're obsessed with Atlanta, these guys. That was day one. This is fantastic. What a great day. You guys gave us a nice little room back there. We filmed some good stuff. Yeah, that was awesome, Bob.

Starting point is 01:05:14 I already thanked you, but let me formally thank you on the show. That was fantastic for us exactly what we needed. This is what, three years in a row of Hardlorn, FIA? Yeah, I think so. The Brotherhood? Just making shit happen. Thank you for that. Thank you for having us.

Starting point is 01:05:31 Thank you for giving us that space. We went and had... We will use it for good. We went and had Portillo's. We went to Portillo's three nights in a row. Three nights in a row. I forgot to you when I was down there. I was pretty bombed honestly.

Starting point is 01:05:45 Oh. Oh, my God, Bob. Well, first of all, which that one near... Universal is the one we went to. What an unbelievable location for us. Spotless and empty. Empty, spotless, and their

Starting point is 01:06:01 attitudes, they are making jokes rhyming with your order number. Dude, I think, like, that's how they do it in Chicago. So I think that's like part of the thing. It's like, number eight, no more wait. Like, they have to do that. That's great. Well, God, if you're, if you find yourself

Starting point is 01:06:17 in Porteus anytime soon, anybody listening, plus Bob and Scanlon, I would recommend get the big beef combo. Yep. Add hot peppers and mozzarella. I know you're not much for a spice guy, right, Bob? That, I don't know how you knew that, but yes, I did not.

Starting point is 01:06:32 The sweet peppers are great. They're not even remotely spicy. That's true. Yeah, don't get the hot peppers. But add the mozzarella. Then get a couple dogs with everything. Bob, I don't know how you feel about it. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:06:45 Okay. Get a couple dogs with ketchup and enjoy it. I got you. All right. Day two, bright and early. Bright and early. Doors at 11 a.m. And guess what's opening this show?

Starting point is 01:07:01 We got Statement of Pride, fucking straight-edge opening this show. Boom. I'm going to run. I'll be thinking straight. Opening on the counter. Opening with thinking straight. Come on.

Starting point is 01:07:19 I'm thinking straight. They got me thinking straight at noon, thinking I'm seeing one of the greatest opening sets I've ever seen. Tell me about statement of pride, Bob. That's, you know, I lived in Penta Cole for a couple years, so I always try to, you know, put on for them if they got good bands going and everything. And then Carter does From Within Records and does a lot for hardcore. And, yeah, I think the band's sick.

Starting point is 01:07:41 They're one of the, the only band, current bands on Youngblood currently. They're straight ed. Which is fucking sick as hell. Yeah. I mean, that's like being a PA guy, obviously. SIG is straight edge. Yes. You guys know, yeah, you tore with him.

Starting point is 01:07:55 He tore with the homie Sig. And I, and I, I don't, has he been straders the whole time? Yeah, yeah. Where the hell did Sig? I'm sure we've been explaining this before. But he's, and now he's the front man, rightfully so. He's did a great job. I'm getting, I'm getting strife vibes.

Starting point is 01:08:15 Yeah, big time. From Statement of Pride. Love it. Yeah. Conviction. They fucking, they know their shit. And, yeah, they're a great band. So I was glad to see the, I mean, the Sunday. noon spot is probably the hardest place

Starting point is 01:08:26 to play ever on a hardcore fest. You think so? To me, it's like the hardest one to convince people to come out early. Everybody's tired of shit after the first day. Yeah. So they held it down and it was a really good first set. And they played to probably

Starting point is 01:08:41 800 people. I mean, it was a lot of fucking people were there. They turned up. It was beautiful. Now, if you're stage managing at noon on a Sunday, I would wonder how you would feel So Scanlon, if you could share that perspective. Well, I was worried for them because we only found out on the first day,

Starting point is 01:09:02 like probably a little bit before doors, that there would be no reentry. So I was worried that an opening ban on a Sunday, if all these people that had to deal with the no reentry bullshit were like, oh, we're just going to show up late. But luckily, a great amount of people showed up, like stated, started with a Youth Today cover, which was awesome. Bo was in the pit. I saw him from the stage.

Starting point is 01:09:22 I was like, there he is. There he is. And then... Clocking in? Clocking in. Yeah. Quick shift. Beautiful.

Starting point is 01:09:28 Quick shift this weekend. Bob, can we ask about the no reentry thing? Because people are going to complain about anything anyone does ever. Yeah. And achieve complaint among that might not be something that is necessarily in your control. Well, obviously, I think rule number one would be Bob wants reentry. Yes. Yes.

Starting point is 01:09:49 Yeah. It would be stupid to think otherwise. was. So there are, you know, maybe if you're going to complain, complain about things Bob can control. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, what happened here? The thing, like, again, it's, it's a new venue. I'd been there twice before. And like, obviously when you're, when you're doing something, like, at a new spot, you know, sometimes, like, you're just like, fuck, man, I forgot to like check on this, whatever, all

Starting point is 01:10:15 those other stuff. Sure. And then I was under the impression the whole time that you just couldn't leave the entire, you know, the whole spot. But then I was told the night before, wait, no, like, we mean, like, you can't go to your car and back. And I was like, you're fucking killing me, dude. I was like, yeah, like, the venue is unbelievable. Everybody at work with is fucking great.

Starting point is 01:10:32 But he told me then, obviously, you know, because they do mostly EDM stuff and, like, other bullshit. So, they're not used to two days of, like, a hardcore festival. They don't really know, like, you know, in a work and it was explained to me, like, it makes sense. He's like, yo, like, if somebody goes to their car, does

Starting point is 01:10:48 drugs get super fucked up whatever and they come back in and like they something happens then we're responsible you know so like we try to control as much as we can with people here we know like we don't over serve people can't bring in drugs like other you know fucking whatever so that's something for next year you know that's like on my list of things i need to like figure out and try to make work like i mean even as much as like having an actual bag check so people like you know if they buy shit they just like puts up whatever yeah so that's definitely stuff on hey wire's got that cover Don't you word? Austin's got the back check covered. I appreciated the hustle this year, but I was like, maybe we could do it like an actual

Starting point is 01:11:22 organized one next year. Let Austin have something. But this is good because I wanted, I want to give you, Bob, the opportunity to address the things that I saw, because any complaint that I saw about this fest, I got so fucking mad because there's no way that people understand the lengths that you had to go to. Yeah. To make this all happen. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:46 And it's like, and it's stuff. that, all right, if you, if you looked on the site, I mean, it's, it's just a venue. They're letting me, they're allowing me to do something there. So the rules and everything we got were on the site. And like, I was just like, all right, like, even like the clear bag bullshit. Like, I was just like, I posted it because I was like, fuck, I completely forgot about about like this. You know, I would assume that people had just checked it out before and they didn't.

Starting point is 01:12:06 I wasn't trying to pull like a fucking okey doke on everybody coming the fast. Like, yeah, got you good. Like, you know what I mean? And just like, but you're saying they checked it out. Yeah, they didn't check out. But you didn't check it out either. I was just like, it doesn't even like cross my mind. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:12:21 Yeah. And I was just like, fuck. Because somebody asked me, I was like, I wonder what the rule is with that. And I was like, I'm still stuck. I was like, everybody's going to think I'm like, and like, yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. Make your life miserable. Right. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:33 I want you to be here, feel comfortable, whatever. So I was like, I'm truly sorry. If that happened to you, I just want to say, I'm actually sorry. We're trying to figure out something better for next year or, you know, I'll make things more clear. But again, it was at first year, there's a lot of things that I need. to like see in person and figure out that I might not have known before so and that sure it'll be better all around. Great.

Starting point is 01:12:53 The best part about all that happening was three people tried to step to Bob and I wish I could have saw it. All because of the reaction they went up to him and started fucking like pressing him about it and I wish I could have saw it. Really? It was Friday

Starting point is 01:13:09 I did the early check-in and people were like hey like you know what's up with three-entry I was like oh we can go to a car I was like yeah of course yeah you can go to your car and like bad like You know, you just, you'll just get, like, rechecked at security, which is what I thought was happening. It did not happen. And then, you know, like, I made a thing. And, like, literally, like, 11 o'clock in the morning on Saturday, this group of three people that I recognize David Ford was like, yo, man, what's up?

Starting point is 01:13:30 You told us we can go to our car. What the fuck are we supposed to do now? And I was like, dude, I can't get beat up in my own fest by three, by three, like, 21-year-old kids. Like, that's a horrible year. So I was like, yo, I'm sorry. That's all me. My bad. Like, if I can help you out with anything, just let me know.

Starting point is 01:13:45 And I literally felt horrible. And I was like, well, I didn't get my ass kick. So I guess it could have been worse. But I was like, I didn't like. I didn't fucking know. Yeah. So if you're watching this, I'm apologized. I apologize.

Starting point is 01:13:58 Thanks for not embarrassing me in my own fest. One thing, one thing I did like between day one and day two is day two, there were more food vendors. That's, again, that's another thing. Like, there is, I don't really know what happened because I connected a bunch of food and drink people with the, everybody organizing that. stuff. So there's actually supposed to be more and more like local stuff. So that's another thing I got to check on for next year. But yeah, after day one, they're like, oh, like, we were running out of

Starting point is 01:14:23 food at the one spot. We didn't know people would be eating this and the other. So they brought more, yeah, food vendors in for everybody and everything like that. So they acknowledge what's going on and just try to accommodate more people and all that. Yeah. There's an improvement overnight. I think that shows that you're working at a place that, we're working

Starting point is 01:14:39 with a place that wants to make it as enjoyable for everyone as possible. Yeah, exactly. contention is up next they uh yeah i don't know if you guys saw the set but yeah they played a couple years ago they kind of hopped on last second because a couple bands dropped and the set was just unbelievable and i was like holy shit because like i like the first thing to put out and then i didn't realize you know i don't live in florida anymore so i didn't realize like just how much of like a thing they were which was it was sick because this kid's been coming around for a while always been

Starting point is 01:15:14 doing cool shit and then uh so i try to switch up the florida stuff every year so i'm not just like fucking up the same bands over and over again. But then, you know, they put out the LP on days this year, and that was fucking great. And then, uh, so they came up and played Philly in like May, I think. Um, they jumped on this pain of true show that was happening. Um, and then, and then, I was like, you got to, this, you guys got to come back and play this year.

Starting point is 01:15:37 And, uh, yeah, dude, for fucking 1230 on a Sunday, the set was just like ridiculous. Out of control. Yeah. Strange man. I think. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:45 Six. This is the real edge day. You kidding me? God, yeah, this was awesome. Anything you noticed while managing the stage, Scanlon? No, I would just compare their reaction to the year that, maybe it was last year that Balmora. It was their first time playing and it was just fucking insane.

Starting point is 01:16:06 This was like up there. It was probably one of the better opening sets I've ever seen. Just not, no caffeine in anyone's system, but they're still moshing their asses off. It's beautiful. That's right. That's what I want to hear. No caffeine. It's great.

Starting point is 01:16:18 Wow. Okay. Oh, Fatal Realm is next. This is one of the best new bands on Earth. Three-piece, brutal band with members of Mind Force, Age Apocalypse, etc. This was outstanding. Sounded huge. Hard as shit.

Starting point is 01:16:49 I cannot believe this demo. Can't wait to hear more. So this was like, of course, Bob. put fatal realm on. Tell me about putting fatal realm on. Your thoughts on their set. They were probably one of the last two bands, I think I put on, because I had one spot

Starting point is 01:17:07 held for another band, and then it just wasn't working out. And like, in the meantime, the demo would come out. And I was like, fuck, man. I was like, I wish I didn't, like, you know, there's nothing on the lineup I wanted to put it in place. I was like, I just don't know if I have room for this band, but I want to see this in front of a bunch of people. I fucking love it.

Starting point is 01:17:23 And shit, they were like, yeah, like one of the last two bands I confirmed, and I was like so psyched. And then they played Philly at the Scarab Christmas show a couple weeks ago. And the room was like fucking psychotic the whole time. So I was like, all right, this is going to be something. And yeah, the set was better. And I thought it was even going to be.

Starting point is 01:17:41 I don't understand how Mike. I literally text with him as soon as the demo came out. I was like, yo, who's like singing on this? It's like, oh, it's me. Like, how the fuck do you sound like that? Like, where do that? I've no idea where that came from. The shit that he plays.

Starting point is 01:17:52 I mean, he's a psychopath, dude. like him being the only guitar player in mind force and the only guitar player in fatal realm makes no sense to me like he just i don't understand and then they're just unbelievably heavy and sick and yeah i can't wait to hear more from them agreed and i would i tell me about stage managing for fatal realm how to go scowlin oh it was great uh the obituary cover was a nice touch that was good it is insane that mike and play those guitar parts while singing and their set was like 10 minutes. It was great. We saved so much time in the beginning of the second day. It was great. Yeah. You're running. When did this get off track?

Starting point is 01:18:35 Yeah. Um, well, it got off track in the way that we were at one point running 15 minutes early and I had to tell stigmatism to wait like five or 10 minutes. And then it ended right on time, right? Because now started at like 940, but okay. So pretty good. Yeah. Nothing but enemies is next. with empty promises i'm i'm having a blast watching this there's uh glasgow yep love it all these northern unrest bands man they just get they get me they know what i like they tell me about putting them on yeah i mean they like every year i feel like it ends up just it's not even like really on purpose other than i pay attention to all the stuff those guys do because same way with like they're like I think, I'm saying, it's other places, but, like, they're basically, like, the, the UK version of the Bay to me.

Starting point is 01:19:31 Like, their whole scene is just fucking sick. Everybody involved is a dope mosher or in sick bands or into sick shit. And if you, I just, the fact that they created that scene is, like, so crazy to me. Like, it's just, it's unbelievable. Like, I mean, people come from all around the world to go to their fucking fest, you know, I mean? As they should. I mean, I remember, like, I remember when we were first talking about going to Europe and we asked whoever was booking it like oh what about

Starting point is 01:19:58 Scotland we'd like to go there and they're like yeah there's there's no no one goes there yeah I've played good shows in Glasgow but it wasn't what it is now no no they they've like made it like a destination and uh so last year the singer Scott came out and he was in every pit destroying people like he's like seven foot seven

Starting point is 01:20:21 two cartwheels across the pit like I was just like dude I want to just like have him over just to mosh every band like I'll buy his fucking plane ticket just because like so I was like all right cool I'll fucking put his band on so he can be here moshing and kicking people's asses and I think the record's really fucking sick and yeah I mean obviously people fuck with it and the cover was great to open up and you know I just getting having those kids come over and get the response they do is so fucking like sick to me because again the same way with like all this stuff they do so much for their scene and bringing band you know, mine force, whoever, like, Scarab, like, two where they're from. So it's, like, getting the paid back is a fucking really set to me. Dude, that is an incredible concept. Flying in local

Starting point is 01:21:05 areas, like best mosherst. It's like the AIFI. He just, he's like the AFI video. I love it. Yeah. It's like leaving song part too. Dude, speaking of being in the pit the whole weekend, Mike Bulldoz.

Starting point is 01:21:19 Mike Bouldos. My God. He was just fucking, he was an animal. He's the mess. manis, dude. Bringing the meme to life in reverse. In reverse, yes. Unbelievable. Outstanding. He was, he was like

Starting point is 01:21:35 moshing harder for the sub-30 bands, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And taken a beating, too. Like, I watch him just like, you know, just, yeah, just do that. But fully in face at all times. Smile on his face. What a guy. He's awesome. What a guy.

Starting point is 01:21:51 Nothing but enemies. I wonder what a stage manager. things of that set. Dude, good question. Wow. Um, you know, no complaints. Everything was great. I thought, like, so I didn't know who sang for that band prior. And when that dude got on stage, I was like, oh, that's some motherfucker, like Bob said, he was just like fucking people up at the JCC like a year ago. And I was like, damn, I thought that guy was a douche. And then I, like, he's playing. I was like, man, this guy's awesome. He's just a sick monster, great front man. I was like, he's not a douche. He's awesome. So you're awesome, man. You're awesome. They're named after a stigmata song.

Starting point is 01:22:26 What's what? I'm in. Yeah. Fucking great. I like it all. Stigmatism is next. Tell me about who I'm going to say. There in another band.

Starting point is 01:22:50 Like if hardcore kids just listen to them. them based on, you know, oh, I heard this band something like this. I guess like people just don't really check things out unless, you know, it's like very like cut and dry with things. And they're just, they, obviously, as you can tell by the name, they just sound like, yeah. And, uh, incredible. It's, if they played Philly earlier this year, I did a show for them.

Starting point is 01:23:11 And I was just, I love the record. And I was like, dude, I just need to see this fucking every time they'll come through Philly or in the area. I just wasn't around. I was driving crazy. So I was like, yeah, I don't know if you guys be into it at all. If you want to come play FAA, I think it would be awesome and like, show kids. like some some quote unquote real shit

Starting point is 01:23:26 as corny as that sounds and they were just totally down and yeah gorilla is a fucking man and they just they just fucking got up there and ripped it they look cool with shit you know they played like you said like basically probably like 15 minutes and yeah they're just a perfect hardcore band in the all of them

Starting point is 01:23:41 these are guys I've seen around forever too I feel like yeah spoilers in it who was injustice and a bunch of other bands that's right yeah great squad prolific hardcore album and T-shirt artist spoiler rocking in band still that's what's all about now scanlon yes what was it like stage managing for this set uh it was great it was quick to the point like bob said uh i give bob

Starting point is 01:24:08 credit because as a promoter the worst thing you can do is just book bands that like you only want to see and like other people might not care because that will affect the turnout at some points but obviously with a fest you kind of got a little bit more free ring you know but uh i think him doing that gets so many of the younger kids into different kinds of bands and, like, opens their ears to different kinds of styles. Because, like, I feel like a younger kid, which is insane to say probably has not heard anything that sounded like agnostic front or anything like that. So to see a band like that and then maybe being into it could gateway them to hopefully agnostic front. And is that not the purpose of something like FYA existing, you know?

Starting point is 01:24:49 Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's a buffet. It's a, dude, not only is, in a buffet, but it's like a breakfast buffet. It's how you're starting the year. Yeah, absolutely. That is true. It's been really nice to have as this just like beautiful tradition of here's what this year is going to be like. Here's what you should pay attention to. The stars of tomorrow.

Starting point is 01:25:10 And I just think I'm very impressed with how you're able to diversify your lineup while still, while not having like a bunch of indie bands or a bunch of pop punk band or like whatever. It's still a hardcore fest. It's awesome. Scanlan, had you made any adjustments between day one and day two, meaning like, day one, this kept happening, so we're going to fix it? Yeah, just like wire placement and just like, I made sure. So this year I told Bob, I was like, try to get two bass cabs because, you know, the bass players can just switch off between.

Starting point is 01:25:44 It'll be easier. And every single bass player just use the same exact base cab and the same base head. So it didn't matter. Same thing with the guitar heads. And here's the technical reason why to me, base players should be stage right. If the guitar player that starts the songs is by themselves, they should be hi-hat side.

Starting point is 01:26:10 Okay. I get it. I totally get it. And, you know, it was just wishful thinking that it would speed things up. But honestly, everything ran fine. I can play. Beautiful. Speaking of running fine, Holy Blade is up next.

Starting point is 01:26:37 I want to preface this by by explaining how when Colin has a set at any fest, it doesn't matter what band it is. He's different Colin. He's show Colin until they play.

Starting point is 01:26:54 I think about my whole life. And then he's Colin. And he's normal Colin. But for these first few hours, let me tell you. Yeah, Colin, let me ask you as a stage manager, witnessing what happened during Holy Blade. Can you give me a play-by-play as a guitar player? 100%. What happened here?

Starting point is 01:27:17 So I was having a power issue with my head at home at practice like months ago. Prior, yeah. Wait, so you went to this fest, knowing that you're before. But I've been using. it sends and it was fine. And so it's different wattage based on however many omes it's plugged into.

Starting point is 01:27:37 So in a 4-I-oam cab it's pushing 300 watts. So for those of you listening who know about this stuff, it's a solid state head for power with a tube for the pre-empt. Right. So now I've tried it with other cabs, I'm fine.

Starting point is 01:27:53 I think as long as I'm not using a four-home cab, I'm fine. So before I check, is this Is this 8 or 16? Yes. So I'm good. I was not good. First, head dies.

Starting point is 01:28:08 So this is, first, first song, I'm already like, this isn't something ain't right. But I don't think I have timed. You were plugged into the Marshall, right? The Marshall Cab? Yes. Yeah, there's a Marshall Cabs. Marshall Cabs are 4-Oam in mono, 8 in stereo. You were plugged into the 4-oam input on that speaker.

Starting point is 01:28:29 Okay. You were plugged into the eight at first, and that wasn't working at all. That's why we switched it. So, so I was specifically plugged into a forum cab. That's awesome. So that's what happened there, and that's why that happened. But that's not, it's true. I'm just telling you.

Starting point is 01:28:42 That's the only other time it had happened. But so I'm saying that's a fault with the head. Any solid state head can do that. So I'm just saying it's okay. Okay, good, good, good. I don't want to. I don't want to give bad advice to someone listening, thinking, oh, I'm not blaming the cap. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:28:57 I'm not saying that that, that should work. Yes. My head didn't work. So there's that. And then I've quickly, I don't have time to do all this. I'm not going to be like, stop the set. I need to fix my shit. No, keep playing. You know? Who cares? I'll come back. Then my pedals die. Well, well, no, hold on a second. First, that happened. Then we switched you to do with 65.05. Martine switched you over. It was great. And it worked for a second. Work for a second. Hit my delay pedal. And I heard, it was like, okay, this is great. So then I went straight in. Straight in, and you're good.

Starting point is 01:29:33 And Martine dialed me up, and 30 seconds later, I'm good. But you know that happening in one song is enough to make a man insane. Oh, that, I watched you, Colin, I watched your face turn shades of red. I didn't know. It was from embarrassment to fury. Fury, dude. Rage. I was as red as my guitar head that failed me.

Starting point is 01:29:53 So that sucks. So I'm like vibe is shot for me. You know, you know that's all it takes. And yet, we need to say the crowd was having a great time. Yeah. Max playing like a motherfucker. And let me preface this with, I think Bob was maybe the second or third person to hear this record. Just because I wanted to play halfway.

Starting point is 01:30:16 And I wanted Bob to hear it. Bob was gracious enough to allow us to play. So thank you, Bob. sorry that I did that. Hold on, but we're not even done. We're not done. So then, so Mac, Mac, who plays drums, has not played drums live in like 10 or 15 years,

Starting point is 01:30:32 and he's just absolutely smashing. He's a machine. Crushing it. Mike, hand-built his base that he's using. And it's great. Alec is using the same head as me, so it dies about halfway through. So I want everybody, everybody listening to this who plays live music,

Starting point is 01:30:49 every guitar player who plays live music, they had two identical heads fail in the same way within 10 minutes of each other. The odds of this happening are not possible. It's not possible. There was a problem. And yet, we were cursed. So it did happen. So that's cool.

Starting point is 01:31:05 I ran over to Alex's head because I was on stage right side and I'm, I plugged him straight in. I checked everything, make sure nothing we got out. Martine and I were both looking at it. Nothing. Alex. But first, before we get to that, though. Let's get there. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:31:19 let's get there I texted Bob and Scanlan like a month ago saying hey we're going to do a cover at FYA Scanlan I feel like you may mosh Did you mosh for any other band The whole weekend?

Starting point is 01:31:35 Yes Only one When silver covered Dynamo Okay So two European covers got you You know In a way Beautiful

Starting point is 01:31:47 In a way covered world collapse with Martin and Scott. Scott has never sang that live, that part live before. That is not true. I found out, I found out that they, that in Martine confirmed it, and Scott went, oh, I forgot. They did play it one time in New York. So for a month, Scott is like, I'm never done it before.

Starting point is 01:32:07 This is crazy. Yeah, yeah. They played it one time. All right, well, this is the second time Scott has ever done it. First time in America. First time in America and the first time he's subsequently mosh for it. So that was cool. It was really fucking cool

Starting point is 01:32:25 Seeing you guys play that And seeing only people In our age group Everyone on this call Like singing along And I was I was jumping up and down At one point When Vogel was walking to the mic

Starting point is 01:32:38 Because I was that I was that excited to be like I've been listening to this for over 20 years Whenever it came out Me too And playing that mosh part Is the sickest thing ever Even though Alex

Starting point is 01:32:48 That's exactly where Alex had died That was awesome Alex had completely died So last song last two tracks, he just becomes frontman. He sets his guitar down, gives up, and then becomes the real Alec. Yeah, dude, it was awesome. The vibe was so good.

Starting point is 01:33:07 Maybe it was a sign of things to come. Maybe it was a one-time thing. I guess we'll never know. I guess we'll sometimes know. From a stage manager's perspective, when you see a man's life flashing before his eyes as his world is collapsing around him, What are your thoughts?

Starting point is 01:33:24 I just, you know, I felt really bad, but the set was going great. And I was like, I'm glad it did not kill the vibe. I felt so bad that I was like, you know what, they're going to cover a band. I really like, I'll mash for it. It'll make them happy. It'll make them happy. It really did. I saw you get off.

Starting point is 01:33:41 I saw the homie scarp get off. That felt good. At one point, the last insult to injury moment was before we started, I put a bunch of picks on the cab. Just in case I dropped one. I dropped one. They put a head over the cab where all those picks were. So I had to scrow. I had to like use my negative nails to claw my pick off the ground while I'm the only guitar player playing.

Starting point is 01:34:08 It took so long. It took forever. It was like, it was brutal. Oh, man. Hey, but I was feeling great. That was so great. I truly commend Alec because he absolutely saved

Starting point is 01:34:27 the set. Yeah. Nobody skipped a beat, which is nice. Yeah. It's hardcore, you know? Absolutely. Absolutely. We'll be back at some point and it'll be good someday. Bayway is next. This set was unbelievable.

Starting point is 01:34:43 Dude, this is a preannels intro. Bob, what was your opinion on? I don't want to know his opinion. He's going to break my heart. Oh, wait. Wait. Holy Blaine. It's a straight edge, man.

Starting point is 01:34:52 Oh, that's true. You were all that. They're missing a whole bunch of stuff right now. You're right. My fault. Bob, thanks for putting us on. I mean,

Starting point is 01:35:01 you literally sent me the record, I think, one week after FAA last year, it's with, for your consideration for next year. And I listened to it once. I was like, you're on.

Starting point is 01:35:10 I was like, this is fucking awesome. Yeah, Bob, you're a big AFI guy, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love them. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:35:17 Great. I've done two cover sets of them in my lifetime. Perfect. Um, yeah, a big fan. But, uh, I will say too, Mike found his bag, his black duffel bag. Yeah. Oh, you did.

Starting point is 01:35:29 He found amazing. Yeah. So, dude. Very glad about that because he is one of the best dudes on Earth. And that really bummed me out when he's posting that shit. I was like, even though obviously I wasn't responsible somehow I felt responsible. So I was, but, uh, but yeah, I, this, I, this was still great. I mean, I fucking love that world collapse song.

Starting point is 01:35:47 My heart wanted me to mosh. My body was like, you can't even tire use your, bad, hurt so bad. You are just staying your ass right on stage. But I was singing every word to myself. That was, that was unbelievable. You know, like the fucking, all the songs are great. So, yeah, I was, I was glad

Starting point is 01:36:03 the set actually happened regardless of all difficulties. Thanks for having us. Mike's bag being found. That hampered cruiser is like not replaceable. Which, but if anybody was wearing it, I would know it was mics and they'd be a dead man. True. You know? True. So that would be good.

Starting point is 01:36:19 Bayway is next. Oh my God. Sopranos intro. Come on. Come on. Bayway motherfucker, to be precise. Yeah. This is the perfect.

Starting point is 01:36:36 This is an insane back to back here. Holy Blading Dayway. Which this is just, this is what FYA is all about. This was like unbelievable. This was like a crazy breakout set for them. I was talking to Jay. Is that his name? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:36:48 In the back and he was like so thankful and so fired up about this set. So tell me about putting them on. This was their time. This was awesome. They are pretty much like the flag bearer jersey band right now. Like every time there was like 600 kids last time they played Jersey and headline. They just been like really dominating the Northeast like last year. And then I just, you know, again, like I try to put on the band to the Northeast. if I noticed them like doing like cool shit.

Starting point is 01:37:19 And then I was just like, all right, this is another thing where they can, they can like, they can like control this kind of audience in this kind of room. I was like, I want to see him in front of like a room with like, you know, thousands of the kids because I feel like it would be such a cool ass fucking thing. And then he just, he commands a crowd, like in a way that not a lot of people can. And then his energy is awesome.

Starting point is 01:37:38 I mean, yeah, he literally is. I'm like, he puts a lot of thought into, you know, everything behind the band and everything. It's like his brainchild.

Starting point is 01:37:45 And, uh, he's really a student of all, you know, second and none, like I'll chat around him all the, all the Jersey shit. And,

Starting point is 01:37:51 uh, yeah, it was, It was really like memorable, FAA said to me. And I feel like, yeah, because they really haven't played out that much besides like a random California thing, a random Texas thing. So I feel like it was the first time a lot of kids got to see them and see how crazy the live show was. And their heads worked great. Everything they really just fucking rocked.

Starting point is 01:38:12 Do they have the foam swords? The swords. Yeah. Yeah. That was cool. Joe each brought the props and Mike Bulldoze was hitting people with the foam swords. And people are just, you know, having a good time. Now, Scanlon, you see foam swords getting thrown out as a stage manager.

Starting point is 01:38:29 Where does your mind go? Yeah, as a person who's a stage manager who's seeing someone who confiscated drained pool toys at his own venue in Philadelphia, throwing foam swords into the crowd, I was like, this is some hypocritical shit. I'm just kidding, Joe, please don't kill me. You know, I'm glad the swords, everyone had fun. you know, you know, Jayway, like Bob said, is a smart man, and he probably thought of this and was like,

Starting point is 01:38:58 oh, this would be funny as fault, let's just do it. And he did it. And people liked it. I can't believe people were moshing to the soprano's theme song. It's probably never happened. Finally. Ever. Yeah, right.

Starting point is 01:39:08 Finally. Finally, yes. But yeah, it was a great set. And Jay is literally the most appreciative person of all time. So I'm glad he got that opportunity to play, and it was actually good for them. And yeah, it was great. He sat on stage.

Starting point is 01:39:22 She was 15 months sober. Yep. 15 months clean. So shout out to Jay. Congrats. That was beautiful. Fuck yeah. Hearing 2,000 people pop for that.

Starting point is 01:39:32 Yeah. Yeah. Dude. Come on. Come on. Gets me right here. Collateral is up next. They had an unbelievable year.

Starting point is 01:39:49 Crazy record. This was a natural fit for F.A. Are they from Florida? Yeah, South Florida. Yeah. Okay. So this is like, home state band

Starting point is 01:39:59 home FYA big time huge fest gig after their record comes out how did this go what did you think

Starting point is 01:40:09 Bob tell me about putting collateral on hey like that squad Mikey that plays drums like he's been playing in bands and played FAA

Starting point is 01:40:16 for fucking like eight or nine years I feel like at this point and then yeah they're always like pumping out new good bands and collateral is probably my favorite

Starting point is 01:40:25 out of all the bands the kids in the and that band have done so far. I love the record from last year. They played early last year, right? Yeah, they probably played in a couple of spots early last year. And, I mean, they could, they play so fast and they're such a good fit between any bands that you can kind of put them anywhere and like it'll do well.

Starting point is 01:40:45 And, yeah, the set was fucking sick. They opened with never had it by Madball, closed with never had it by Mad Ball. Amazing. Yeah, the energy when they play is just always like so sick. great frontman and uh yeah i just i love that band so i was glad to see them get the reaction they did now now now now it was great i'm glad that they had the reaction they did it was i in my opinion one of the best that day or of the fest it was one of the best and uh i'm just glad that they caught on as well as they did i straight up love that fucking band that demo was like one of my

Starting point is 01:41:25 favorite releases in a long time love the seven inch I'm glad they're doing well. We were talking to people outside for a while, and I feel like half the people we talked to were from Florida. Yeah. And South, like South Florida specifically. So I love to see people from their state rep in bands that are from there, the fest that is near where they live.

Starting point is 01:41:51 Florida has always been a like Florida first type state, which you would, is, my favorite thing to see. Yeah, that's how it should be. FYA is the representation of that of like putting bands on that put their home on and that's beautiful.

Starting point is 01:42:06 And let me tell you, some of the younger fellas we were talking to from South Florida, we asked, it'll be out in episodes so we're not going to spoil anything, but we asked their top four Mount Rushmore

Starting point is 01:42:18 hardcore records. There was a whole band, five guys, not one answer I would disagree with. Kids are right. And they were, they got great. They're all teens.

Starting point is 01:42:29 It was amazing. So it's a great thing. Burning Lord is up next. Another great LP from last year. This is Boston, Philly. Just Boston. Yeah. Okay.

Starting point is 01:42:47 I wish Philly. Oh, I think I've seen, have I just seen Lenin play for them or something? He did fill them for them last year. There you go. I keep thinking they're both, but I guess they're just Boston, which is beautiful. Triple B.

Starting point is 01:43:00 incredible record so I couldn't wait for this set tell me about putting Burning Lord on this year yeah just their whole vibe is just super sick to me he's a great front man and then he just looks

Starting point is 01:43:13 effortfully cool as shit when they play I really like the early stuff but the LPs definitely the best stuff they've done and I was kind of like I don't really like running bands back

Starting point is 01:43:22 but like kind of put them on last year just to I was like I love this band I want people to see them and then they put out the LP and I was like I gotta just fucking have them again because last Last year is good.

Starting point is 01:43:31 The new record is unbelievable. So I need him to play in front of a bunch of people. Yeah, Ozone, great bass player. Dude, he is one of the great on-stage personalities of our era, I think. Yeah, the whole fan. Even just standing there, I'm like, that's a cool fucking guy. Now, stage managing, Burning Lord. How does that go, Scallon?

Starting point is 01:43:56 So the day before, I did not eat at, like, one point at all throughout the day. And a lot of my friends were calling me an idiot for that. So I made sure to at least take a lunch break this time. And during Burning Lord, I ate my tofu behind the drummer. And he looked over and was just laughing at me because I'm just sitting there, like, while they're playing. And he was only laughing because we're, we're not sure that if you, that you eat at all. Yeah. So it's just confirmation to him midset that you're even human.

Starting point is 01:44:25 Yeah, this is a surprise. Yeah, I usually, I pride myself on not taking breaks when I, when I work this thing, which is stupid. But yeah, so I ate and their set was awesome. They did a straight-ahead cover, and it popped just, and it was the same exact cover that Steamroll did, which is hilarious. That's what I'm saying. It's like, and it was awful. Beautiful. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:44:45 I want to hear more single straight-ahead songs in 2025. Just play the one. Everybody. Learn it. Crush your soul is next. Jay is back. to front once again after putting out two

Starting point is 01:44:59 incredible EPs Bob, tell me about putting Crush your Soul on. I love that you did that. Yeah, they like, Mike and Jay, you know, like, if you aren't feeling this, I get it, like, you don't do multiple sets, but like if you're down, I feel like, because my original idea was really early on

Starting point is 01:45:24 was I wanted Mindforce to open one, or to headline one day and Crush Your Soul to open the next. To me, I thought that'll just be funny, but then obviously it didn't work out again. But I was like, I don't want to kill the guy. So fucking, the band is so fucking, I love the fucking records. Um, yeah, when it's presented to me, Dom's like, yo, I'm playing bass in the band. I was like, do you

Starting point is 01:45:45 know how to play bass? It's like, not really, but I'm buying one this week. I was like, okay. And, uh, he just looks so, I can't believe how cool he looks playing bass. Like, it's just, everything about the band is just awesome. Incredible lineup. Yeah, the lineup of people in the band is just ridiculous. And I would watch them live every day if I could. And, and, and the reaction was just like insane. Short and sweet, Scanlan, tell me about getting your soul crushed on stage, managing us. Oh, my soul was crushed on stage for sure.

Starting point is 01:46:15 I got to put Dom on blast. So, done it up. You know where to be seen. Trying to find him. Finally find him. He's like, oh, I don't have a base. And I was like, oh, all right. Like, I'll try to find one for you.

Starting point is 01:46:26 So the homie from Statement of Pride comes up with his base, let's borrow it. And I'm going to, like, oh, you don't have to plug him in. He's like, oh, you don't have to plug me in. And I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, no, like, don't plug me in. I don't know how to play bass. And I was like, oh, so we waited 10 minutes for you to get a bass. Whatever, fine, sure, no problem.

Starting point is 01:46:41 So he's looking cool as shit, just moshing around. I was like, all right, at least he looks cool. And then he smashes me with the fucking headstock. And I was like, all right. Maybe I'm not that psyched on it. But, hey, the set was sick. I love seeing Jay do his thing. And honestly, Ben from a recycled earth, he plays guitar on that band.

Starting point is 01:46:59 I'm so happy. He's in a band that people are just, like, sweating so hard right now. He deserves it. great dude. I'm not even sure I noticed that there was no base. Dude, I was just going to say I got totally worked because I saw videos and shit and I was like, man, he looks fucking awesome. How is he doing both?

Starting point is 01:47:15 How's he doing it? It was funny because Maline was trying to plug him back into the tuner and he just like to stop. You don't need to do that. She's like, what do you mean? And it's not on. It was really funny. Malian, shout out my

Starting point is 01:47:28 my old friend Maline, taking pictures this weekend. Florida legend. sanction is next Good God This was From what we heard This was the most violent of the weekend

Starting point is 01:47:49 Pit of the weekend Pit of the weekend Can you confirm They literally had people Moshing wall to wall Which I love I love the craziness However there was like

Starting point is 01:48:02 What I would describe as a Like the baby pool To the left of the stage Yeah Which was like People kind of just moshing around in like a little area like way way like not near the actual pit and I was like you got to come on what do you don't just get your shit together getting the real mosh pit we can't be we can't be

Starting point is 01:48:19 doing this this weird warp tour a real unsanctioned side piece that's what I was saying Bob next year the the barricades side barricades force a man because it's all right or you're out you know like it was funny but I was like come on man what's just yeah a Philly kid was in there and I did try I banned him from doughy shows for a little bit for being in the, for the JV pit. But, uh, the JV pit. Yeah. Tell me about putting sanction on.

Starting point is 01:48:49 They came, they like formerly came back last year. Uh, so it's cool that they're, they're doing more. Tell me about putting them on. Yeah, they,

Starting point is 01:48:58 I, I talked to Lumpy about it before. He's like, I just don't, you know, not really feeling it, blah, whatever.

Starting point is 01:49:03 And then they played LDB. And I think that kind of made them be like, oh, shit, people actually like, give a fuck. Um, Because they're just like a band that I feel like people actually somehow miss, which is bizarre to me. But, you know, when they went away, a bunch of bands in their, like, realm kind of came, came up.

Starting point is 01:49:19 And, like, they're kind of like the OGs of like that kind of style, I feel like at this point. Yeah, I mean, I think they played like eight years ago or something. Like, I think they opened the one FAA. So it's been a long time. So, yeah, their reaction was just like truly psychotic. It was fucking sick. I think the, like, crop of metalcore bands that have come. since they've, like, broken up, are just kind of doing them worse?

Starting point is 01:49:45 Yeah. So the kids go back and hear sanction and hear how sick it was and didn't get to see them and things change. Scanlon, stage managing the stage while your friends are playing and sanctions, seeing them come back. How does that go? How is stage managing Lumpy in general? it's great you know a way to compare it

Starting point is 01:50:11 like you always say that T.I killed melodic hardcore me and my friends say that Lumpy killed hardcore in general sorry this whole wave of metal core shit but you know I'm psyched to see sanction whenever they play

Starting point is 01:50:23 they do that style so well they're definitely the best of it in my opinion and I'm not trying to be biased you know they they destroy it they put their time in touring and it only sucks that I mean, Nick Herman, amazing drummer. But to not see Little D up there is very sad.

Starting point is 01:50:41 He's working on being a tattoo guy. Yeah, my sweet, sweet D. He was, we did, Colin, I don't know how much we've talked about this, but Sanctured in Harmsway did the same exact European tour that Twishing Tongues in Harmsway did. Right. And D was like just my guy. Which is so funny.

Starting point is 01:50:59 He's such a little... Wasn't you guys talk about? Nothing. One time, one time I was just sitting next to him, and we were just kind of whatever. I don't even know. And he looked at my socks. He went,

Starting point is 01:51:08 I like your socks. That's a little day. That's a little day. He's just such a sweetheart. I love that guy. He's the best. But as Scanlon said, Nick Herman,

Starting point is 01:51:16 amazing drummer. Amazing drummer. So what can you do? Yeah. Torture is up next. What a year they've had. Now they're torturing moshers

Starting point is 01:51:35 left and right worldwide. Tell me about putting torture on FIA, Bob. They played a small place in Philly, like the first time they're coming through and I put them out like a hundred cap spot and it was just like mayhem the whole time and I was like, all right, this is another thing like they did this crazy

Starting point is 01:51:53 at this world spot like them at a festival people who know them and like want to go off, it'll be crazy. The thing I hated when they're playing is the first person, I couldn't throw a football and like hit the person. I'm like, what do you at least pretend like you're going to be up front? Like just fucking get your ass up front.

Starting point is 01:52:08 Yeah, totally. But like, come on man. Well, when you, when you are a lyricless entity that is designed. Yeah. When you're designed for only violence. Yeah. And you can't blame them for wanting to go deep in the trenches. Dude,

Starting point is 01:52:23 and who, even if they had lyrics, who are they going to sing to? Yeah, who is no idea. The drummer sings. You know? So I get it,

Starting point is 01:52:30 but I was like, yeah, yeah. God damn dickulous. Maybe you're at least a little bit up front. Because you're just like, you're going to like mosh like the bar in the very back of the room.

Starting point is 01:52:38 But it was, which would have been cool. But I also. The Beal Juice. Beetlejuice meme? That's torture. Torture FIA for some. Yeah, that was that meme in real life.

Starting point is 01:52:55 Yeah, it was one of the most stressful sets of the weekend because I was like, because people couldn't even pretend to like be like diving and stuff like that. It was purely ass whooping. Yeah. So I was like, somebody's going to go and just do something that I'm just like, this is what the hell is going to happen. But this set was violent and great and it went off without a hitch. So it was cool seeing them in a big room like that.

Starting point is 01:53:14 Shout out to my pal, Hunter, bad boy, playing base in torture. That was cool to see. I'm happy for him. Yeah, they got Hunter and J. Brockin. Strong. Now, Scanlon. Now, you're stage managing torture. Where is your mind?

Starting point is 01:53:35 What are you seeing? What are you hearing? What do you got going on? I got a few bones to pick during this set. So, yeah, I think, like, obviously during their set, everyone was so spread out, like, it was fucked up. Like, it looked like a co-co-lash video of swear to God playing, like, a football field or something. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:53:58 It's a classic beat-down scenario. But it's just like, I feel like if everyone just, like, moved in a bit more, even though they were going to get their ass kicked, it would have popped even better. You know what I mean? Sure. I just think people got to stop being scared, even though they're going to get your ass kick. But a thing that really grinds in my gears

Starting point is 01:54:15 is when the trend of people going to stage dive but they're just like punching down on the people in the front because it gets the people not want to be up front at all. The worst style of all time. It's the morning of the thing over. Hold on. It must end. Even worse is the pretending to do it.

Starting point is 01:54:31 Well, that's what most of them are doing. If you're going to do it, do it. But yeah, just doing the like, ahia, ayah. Yeah. It's not cool. It's not funny. It's whack. I can only describe it as fugly.

Starting point is 01:54:43 Yeah. There's no better way. It's a fugly style. It must end. Yeah. Like, just, I don't know. You're not attacking anyone, you know? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:54:54 Yeah. They're just going, ah, if they're even there to begin with. No more. Wait, wait. Final, final bone to pick, because I said I was going to tell this story before with the water bottle throwing. So during the last portrait song, I just see water bottles. being flung from the stage. And as a stage manager, protecting Bob,

Starting point is 01:55:14 I'm like, I got to speak for Bob. So I go over there. And I see it's Lumpy. And I just look at Lumpy with the meanest, like, I'm just like, and he's just like, what? I'm sorry. And I'm just like, yeah, to stop. And then I look over and Brendan from Big Boy is literally running to the water case to get at water.

Starting point is 01:55:32 He like turns back around and I'm just staring at him, like blank in his face. And he just goes, like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm just like, stop. Yeah, it was pretty funny But dude, the water is just like The floor is not carpeted anymore It used to be carpeted.

Starting point is 01:55:46 It's not carpeted anymore So when the water's on the ground, people are just going to slip For whatever reason, the venue doesn't have Like a fucking janitor Ready to go with a mob So it takes a while to clean it up So just don't throw water.

Starting point is 01:55:58 That's it. I can tell you what a disaster firsthand Water On the floor of the pit can be. That's all it takes to ruin a show. Well, dude, and what's funny too is like Scanlon said for statement of pride

Starting point is 01:56:11 I for the cover I was in the pit a little bit that's the first band of the day and I slipped because it was like dusty so you're working with wet and dusty

Starting point is 01:56:22 at the same time that's a terrible combo recipe for disaster terrible combo you would think they couldn't coexist wet and dusty

Starting point is 01:56:31 and yet they sludge but some old bands prove otherwise they sludge it up we got Balmora up next they opened last year yeah at 5 p.m. this year they get the promotion I knew that would happen yeah good on you for doing that was that intentional Bob yeah I mean they just last year I was

Starting point is 01:57:01 just like I this will bring kids there earlier and I'm like any earlier would be just like disrespectful for totally you know what what they've become like the last year or so so yeah I just wanted to get a little you know put a little higher and see what happens love that love it totally and I would like to note, like, the first half of the day is kind of like you're being introduced to some things you may have never heard. You're seeing a couple new and notable

Starting point is 01:57:25 exciting bands. And then the second half is just like, bang, bam, bam, bam, bam, bang, bang, after banger after bang or after banger, after banger, both of these days. Balmora and on, and I'm really fucking sanctioning on, I feel like,

Starting point is 01:57:39 is where it's like you can expect madness the rest of the day. This was crazy. they smoked last year to me tell me anything else you can about putting them on how good this was and then of course I need to hear from Scanlon I mean they're absolutely the first and probably only band that's

Starting point is 01:57:58 covered on broken wings and breakdown in the same set that was history right in front of our eyes there and listen they just it was crazy that's a I'm all for it I'm all for that you could play anything else and play breakdown and I'm fine.

Starting point is 01:58:15 And he's, I mean, Cente is definitely also the first person to own an Avenged Sevenfold hoodie and know what breakdown is. Yeah. So, a couple world records. I listen to breakdowns all the time. What are you talking about?

Starting point is 01:58:27 Exactly. Now, Scanlon, you're stage managing Balmora. Yeah. What's going on? What's going through your mind? What's going on? Well, I was privy to the Unbroken Wings

Starting point is 01:58:40 breakdown, uh, conversation. because at first it was either going to be one or the other. And then they were supposed to cover jail depression. But one of them was like, I don't know if I want to do it, whatever. So, but then I guess last minute, like 30 minutes before the set, they were like, all right, no, covering breakdown would be funny. Let's do sick people.

Starting point is 01:59:01 Okay, sure, whatever. I had no idea. Yeah. I had no idea how I was going to go. But to see people go crazy for unbroken wings and then people actually kind of go crazy for a breakdown cover. I was like, all right, that's unity. It really is. One seen unity.

Starting point is 01:59:17 C-T-H-C, man. It is a symbol of unity. It's beautiful. But hey, it's not only the covers, the Balmora originals, they went over great. Absolutely. Well said. 20 minutes, and I know they got some long songs,

Starting point is 01:59:30 so they're having to pick the right ones, you know. They did a good job. Yeah. They went over their time, but that's fun. Were they the first? That day. Yes. Well, so the day

Starting point is 01:59:43 kind of got jumbled up between torture and Balmour just because torture had a you know, the headset. Yeah. You know, they needed three DIY boxes, but we made it back on time. It's fine. It's okay. It's a lot. It's a lot of boxes. A lot of boxes. Think I Care is next

Starting point is 01:59:59 one of the best hardcore bands of the 2000s period. I love looking at a lineup and seeing Think I Care on it. Yeah. I love the the lineup now. I feel like they've never sounded this tight, which is fucking awesome.

Starting point is 02:00:25 Tell me about getting Think I Care on this, for one. Your relation as a fan to the band, because man, like, this just feels so good. Well, and also, I have to imagine, Bob, that you were back in the day a huge Think I Care fan. Oh, I mean, dude, there's pictures of me from, like, 2003 or four with, like, multiple Think I Care shirts.

Starting point is 02:00:45 Like, yeah. I got the CD you really. originally because I got them confused to stop and think because I saw them in a thanks list and I was like this is not what I thought this band sound like at all but like I fucking the self-titled and Mongrol like specifically like they're just all time all time

Starting point is 02:01:00 great hardcore records to me yeah and just like the angriest like their sets were super crazy like not super crazy but they're always like exactly the one out of hardcore out of a hardcore set like the positive numbers 04 set was like like one of the most memorable things I've seen and uh yeah especially with Austin being in the band

Starting point is 02:01:16 I think it's a little easier for them to figure things out because he kind of can like handle everything and shit. But yeah, and then so with me and Sam re-releasing the two records, I was like, well, now it makes sense. Like I feel like now more kids know them than when I've tried them in the past and it didn't work out.

Starting point is 02:01:33 But yeah, the set was fucking awesome. Clegg looked insane. Yeah. They had, yeah, the fucking Mohawk with the nail, the nail bomb shirt was a crazy combo. But yeah, they were just, it was awesome. It was a real like, like, noers know. kind of pit in like a positive way

Starting point is 02:01:49 and like they had pylons and shit and yeah it was just something that's like obviously again I'm never going to like I'm not going to be like yo striking this and headline my fest you know what I mean like but like there's bands that I want I'm like yo this is like to me an essential hardcore band and if you it's not you know you can go

Starting point is 02:02:05 back and like look at bands like 2006 whatever of whatever other areas like but like this is a band you should know and they're just they're mashy there you can sing along and I love the band so I was glad to see them get the reaction they did Beautiful. Love it.

Starting point is 02:02:18 I agree. Austin playing the Taylor Young Donable as well. So that's pretty cool. Scanlon? It was a band that I wish I could have hit the pit for and I regretted not doing so. They're one of the best, like Bob said. And I absolutely love them. But they killed it.

Starting point is 02:02:36 I'm glad that they held their own. It was great. They were really like the angry, kind of scary, but not heavy in the sense. of like breakdown heavy of piece by piece of our era yeah like when we were growing up it was think i care and then dude for me to like so be it afterwards like man that was they think i care really was in a sweet spot that i really love so it was really cool to see them to see them back in general totally agree the mongaloids are back something i thought i would never say something i thought i would never be allowed to say uh you know gregg has been

Starting point is 02:03:21 Greg from hold my own for so many years to so many people, but he'll always be Greg Mongo to me, you know? And I'm sure to you guys as well. One of my favorite guys ever. Great guy. So I love seeing him get this moment, this later

Starting point is 02:03:37 day, FYA moment. And what the hell? My fireworks are going on. This was one of the best sets of the weekend. That's also, we heard pit of the weekend sanction, set of the weekend. Mongoloids.

Starting point is 02:03:52 I had no idea what to expect. And this is like the original lineup. Wow. These are the first Mongoloids. Are all playing now. And like they sounded unbelievable. That doesn't ever sounded somehow. It's crazy.

Starting point is 02:04:10 And the pit was insane. People are singing everything. Greg in the varsity jacket. Straight edge band, kind of. We'll give them one. We'll give them a mark for that. We'll do it. We'll give it a half.

Starting point is 02:04:20 Yeah. Yeah, we'll give them a half. They were once upon a time. Have we missed any, by the way, before this? I don't think so. No. Okay. Seven and a half, strong.

Starting point is 02:04:30 Yeah. Love it. Tell me about putting the Mongolids on, first and foremost, Bob. They just, you know, I've been really good friends with Greg for a while now. And just, you know, the first mom tour was with the Mongloids. And then we were always, you know, they would come play Doyle sound all the time. We were, everyone's friends, whatever. And then, you know, it was something that was just like, it's going to happen to some point.

Starting point is 02:04:53 And I was just like, yo, like, if you can make this happen, I'm down to do it. And it was definitely, like you said on stage, it's like a real like health freezes over Eagle reunion kind of thing. Like, the fact that they were able to get together and have all the original guys is like insane. Like, I don't know if people realize how insane it is. Yeah. So it was everything in that B and iron thread with us reading, reading all the all the stories that the members were sharing. But so I'm, you know, I'm glad it's all water under the bridge. what an unbelievable saga

Starting point is 02:05:20 it was I'm glad it has a happy ending Yeah Wait what was with the The like the spinning the magic show Dude that I was about to say So a couple things from the set That dude At some point security

Starting point is 02:05:35 Like poke me was like yo this guy says he's with The band and he needs a wristband And I look back And it's just that dude just sitting on a chair To the side of the stage I was like who the fuck is that And he's like what bit And he's like oh he said he's with the mongoids

Starting point is 02:05:48 So I texted Greg I thought he was like he's an uncle or something like that that just like showed up to the fest or something and he didn't respond and i hit up dave from the band he's like oh no he's with us like you know whatever i was like whatever i was like it's a weird family member or something like i had no idea what the fuck was going to happen um and then it was just literally like a circus when they were playing it was one of the most bizarre entertaining things i've ever seen in my life um i was just cracking up the whole fucking time yeah but but was it not exactly what you should expect from the

Starting point is 02:06:20 I saw him. It was literally perfect. He spun an LP and threw it out. I saw him spin like maybe a 17 or 18 inch like video monitor. Yeah. Spinning on his finger. A chair. A chair.

Starting point is 02:06:34 How do you figure that out? I don't know. They found him on Craigslist. That's the deal. Like I don't understand the specifics, but they found him on Orlando Craigslist. Oh, my God. He did stuff with them before and he shaved somebody's head on stage or he cut somebody's hair on stage.

Starting point is 02:06:49 So I thought that's what the chair was. for. And I was like, dude, nobody's cleaning up a bunch of fucking hair after this set. Like, I pray that's not what it is. Yeah. Scamlin is not. Yeah. So, I was glad you just did the

Starting point is 02:07:01 weird tricks. The thing that sucked during the set, I was so happy. I was so, I love Greg to death. It was awesome. His kids got to see the set. Like, his fucking wife was there. Everything was great. Some kid sprinted across the stage and was like, I don't know what his plan was

Starting point is 02:07:18 to parkour off the fucking, the speakers or to like just jump over somebody on the other side whatever but i'm fucking sitting there obviously obviously everybody was like yo like yeah the guy in the backpack he had the backpack on whatever the backpack saved my life because this fucking kid fucking he's running at me full speed like the fucking terminator i'm looking around it was like he's not going to move so i at the last second i was just like trying to shift his momentum to get him off the stage protect the speaker and whoever's over there protected the speaker but in the process i lost my footing fell fucking six feet off the goddamn stage right onto my back, saved by the backpack, because I had a box of shit in there.

Starting point is 02:07:56 And my back hurt all weekend. But yeah, my back heard all weekend after that, I could fuck. I felt great. It literally, literally, uh, man, reline my spine or something again. But yeah, saved by the backpack. I almost got knocked out of my own fest twice in one weekend. Thankfully, I didn't. Oh, shit.

Starting point is 02:08:13 If you're that kid, please don't do that. That's crazy. It's too bad you had to throw out all those Dr. peppers in your backpack. that were shaking out. They were exploded. That's devastating. Just covered and, yeah.

Starting point is 02:08:28 Wow. So don't do that. Whatever that was. Yeah. Yeah, that was not. Fucking Monty Python. Holy shit, man.

Starting point is 02:08:36 Tell me about stage managing the Mongolids, Stanley. I'm really upset. I missed Bob falling. I would pay so much money to see that in real time. If Sonny got it, that'd be really great. Oh, there's a video. And there's two people down there that just watch it happen.

Starting point is 02:08:53 I'm like, you can't throw one hand up. I'm like, come on, man. But it is one of this. Can you send me to this? Yeah, we're going to need that video, Bob. Okay. Okay, here is. You got to show it right here.

Starting point is 02:09:01 Here it is. That looks crazy. That was beautiful. Yeah, so I was also confused by the spinner guy because there was just a chair in the front of the stage. And I was like, I don't know if, like, someone's family members going to sit there or whatever. So, yeah,

Starting point is 02:09:21 dude starts spinning shit, but I'm gullible as fuck, and I just see this dude in the front whip out of, like, a huge like frying pan. He's like, do this, do this. And I was like, where the fuck does someone get a frying pan from? And then he starts spinning the frying pan. I was like, oh, it's part of the show. Inside job. Yeah, inside

Starting point is 02:09:37 job. But, uh, so Greg asked for two wristbands for a magician and his assistant. Yeah, there's two assistants. There were two people. Two? Yes. This guy's getting greedy. That's as much as hard, lore. Yeah, that's crazy.

Starting point is 02:09:52 That is incredible. Congrats to the Mongols. Welcome back. Kids like us is next. Florida legends here, really. Yeah, right. The Kings of Florida, if you really think about it. This is another one where I had no idea what to expect.

Starting point is 02:10:13 I figured it's in their hometown, so it's going to be insane. And it is. The hits are absolutely hidden. Tell me about putting kids like us on, Bob. Yeah, I mean, like over the years, obviously, Florida hasn't had a lot of bands that, you know, were able to like kind of break out of Florida scene and everything we got. They're always, they're always touring doing other shit.

Starting point is 02:10:30 You'd be on tour and like fucking Topeka Kansas and the opener would cover a kids like a song or something like that. Right. So like they definitely had like a crazy reach. And it just made sense with me for, because I'd asked a couple years ago, I didn't work out. And I was like,

Starting point is 02:10:44 well, this year I feel like it makes sense with you guys and Mongloids, whatever, if you can make it work. And they were down and then. Forever back to back. Yeah, straight off. It was just the fact that it worked out with,

Starting point is 02:10:55 You know, the 20 year of the one out of control that they played and everything. But yeah, I mean, they hadn't played since 2016, I think, whenever the judge show was down there. So, yeah, it was, they got an insane reaction. You know, they're probably one of the top five most popular Florida bands ever. Ever. Yeah, it was just, it was basically to me, it's like, like, I get down to nothing playing in Richmond or something like that. Like, same vibe. Uh-huh.

Starting point is 02:11:18 Just fun and, like, people just going off and diving all the time. Good comparison there. I would love to see how many of them Coca-Cola shirts they sold. Billions. Like lifetime sales, that's got to be in the hundreds of millions at this point. Tell me about stage managing kids like us, Kallin. It was great. I definitely heard that band when I was, like, in high school.

Starting point is 02:11:39 And I was like never got to see them. So it was kind of cool to see them, especially in Florida. And they fucking, I wasn't sure how I was going to be. I was like coming after Mongloids, I was like, oh, it might be a little tough. But that said was actually pretty fucking crazy. It was a buck. Yeah, they did good. They did good.

Starting point is 02:11:56 Great job, kids like us. Again, welcome back. Another welcome back is Ode to Tampa's own and South Florida's own Blisterd is back. Evan, one of my favorite guys ever. This fucking rocked. It's this Blistered is a band that, like, got their flowers right when they went away. Yeah. They were a straight.

Starting point is 02:12:22 No, no, no, no. No. Each one's right. Yes, blistered. No, no, no, no. Okay, got it. I think straight edge is done for this. So we're at total.

Starting point is 02:12:32 seven and a half with the mongaloids with greg it's not greg holding down all of new jersey we can do better we can do better let's make it to a whole eight next year but blister is next this is like the hometown set that i feel like they've always deserved tell me about making that happen bob and uh yeah just having blizzard come back yeah they just i think they kind of went out in a weird note because people were just confused about like the last show and everything like that if it was going to be the last show or not or they're going to continue on.

Starting point is 02:13:05 And enough time passed where I was just like, yeah, I think we're ready to actually, you know, put it, put it to bed or, you know, whatever. Actually, like, do it like the right way. And, yeah, I mean, like you said, I love Evan. He's always been the man. He's a, he's a secret, insanely important parts of the fest. He's always helping out with fucking gear, just like figuring things out, whatever.

Starting point is 02:13:25 And just, you know, he's a really good friend. And then, uh, just the best guy. Yeah, he's just, I don't know a single person that just likes them. And, uh, see, I, I know it took a lot for Lennon to want to do it and everything I get. Like, you know, with just, he's a head case sometimes. You know, I get it. But yeah, him being able to do it was fucking sick and the reaction.

Starting point is 02:13:44 I was so worried with the three Florida reunions back to back to back. Right. I was like, I pray that somebody doesn't get fucked in this situation. I like that the monoloids are too in your mind of Florida reunion. They count. Greg, Greg putting this time in Jacksonville and other shit. That's true. It's true.

Starting point is 02:13:59 They're basically Florida. But, uh. So does Lenin, did Lennon, Did Lennon have most sets this weekend? He might have. He had, not yet. Face the pain. Yeah, that, yeah, that.

Starting point is 02:14:09 Scarab. Maybe three, yeah. What third? Yeah. So probably three. Three is a lot. A joke, man. They had that.

Starting point is 02:14:19 But, uh, so good job, Lenin. Good job. Yeah. They were fucking great. I don't know how much more they, or if anything I'm going to do,

Starting point is 02:14:24 but if that's the last show, I think that's the appropriate one. And I love all the guys. I was glad they were able to have a lot of it. Absolutely. Scanlan. Lenin was very nervous before the set, and I'm glad that he was fine. He didn't fuck up the words at all.

Starting point is 02:14:40 It was great. I was worried for him for a second. It was good. It was good. No anecdotes of any technical disasters or... No, just I'm going to back up with Bob said, saying that Evan is the man, and he provided the back line, so he made my life easier. See?

Starting point is 02:14:57 I didn't even know that. He's the best. He's the best. Love him. Terror, the greatest historical band ever, is up next. We had a great way of starting terror,

Starting point is 02:15:17 of arriving at terror. That's true. We did a little interview with Jamie from Death Threat. Nice. And here, I hear I'm supposed to sing spit my rage, which is always like

Starting point is 02:15:32 first or second. I hear like faint rumbling. we were walking Jamie back to his wife and I'm like, who's playing right now? His wife is like, oh, it's terror. So I sprint inside. And you know those like speaker thing?

Starting point is 02:15:48 There's some kind of cases that were next to cable cases. Yeah. Cable cases right next to the stage. One is like kind of far from the stage. So I jump on it and like ride it to the stage and arrive the second the part starts. So you'll notice I'm like a second, I'm like a half. second late and then make it. But yeah, this set was unbelievable. They played fucking not this time. Yeah, dude. That was fucking awesome. Holy shit. I don't think I've ever seen them play that, ever.

Starting point is 02:16:20 No. No, I definitely have, but not in like years. And Martin said it was like a day of audible. That's crazy. So awesome. Loved it. This set was unbelievable. They're the best hardcore band ever, as I've said many times and I will continue to say Bob, tell me about putting terror back on this is the, if you're going to have any band,

Starting point is 02:16:43 this is the ultimate like direct support band in history. Yeah, I mean, they just, they can crush any time they play and in Vogel,

Starting point is 02:16:53 I mean, can make any proud fucking psyched on the set. And obviously at that point, you know, people are tired, like, you know,

Starting point is 02:16:58 whatever, don't really want to go off too hard, but like, he just, he made, he literally willed it to happen. And the single, longs were great, the moshing was plentiful.

Starting point is 02:17:08 Yeah, they're just the fucking best. Like, I don't, I don't, they, specifically in the last couple years, like, but they're set of tied down. I was like, oh, shit, you know what I mean? Like, I'm glad. Not that they ever went away, but I mean, again, same thing with death threat. Like, they've been advanced for 2002, I think. So being around this long and still being so relevant. And, I mean, the last record they did is probably my favorite since lowest is a low.

Starting point is 02:17:29 Top, top three that they've ever written. Yeah. And, like, doing that that far in your career. just fucking psychotic and all those dudes obviously are still super involved in hardcore and truly give a shit and yeah the set was fucking great and I would have them every year but you know what I mean

Starting point is 02:17:44 they're just the best band you know what I mean they're the best if you had them every year I would look at the flyer and go fuck that's awesome terrible tell me about stage managing at this point Scanlon you're almost done you got two more to get through home stretch but the home stretch

Starting point is 02:18:01 is terror and nails so this is like vacation mode now. You get to have a good time. Yeah, I mean, during terror I was feeling it. I remember something like got fucked up and I just looked at Mark and I was just like, yeah, just go get it. I don't want to do it. The monitor, yeah. The monitor got. I saw him take care of it. It was good. Yeah, I was over it. But not. I mean, I was that was sick. Scott laughed because when he got on stage, I like, was walking up with tape and he's like, what's that for? And I was like, oh, you like to get your microphone taped. And he's like, yeah, but you really booked us way too many times. I was like, yeah. I think that was

Starting point is 02:18:34 microphone and that was it yeah the yeah yeah you gotta do it I mean

Starting point is 02:18:41 you would not believe I think at every FYI I've ever played my microphone XLR has gotten ripped out of my microphone

Starting point is 02:18:48 so last year maybe this guy's on to something last year it was the first it was it was it was

Starting point is 02:18:54 it was put yeah yeah fucking suck but yeah this set was unbelievable setless was amazing

Starting point is 02:19:01 terror if you're listening you're the best not this time. Keep it in there. Keep it in. What a pit. God, incredible. Nails is next and Nails is last. The return of Nails happened last year. This is their first show in Florida since, right?

Starting point is 02:19:24 I think so, yeah. I don't think they've really done that much, yeah. Opening with wide open wound. Dude, we were... Oh, my God. We were backstage right when they started playing, and it was like, I heard the riff, And I don't, whoever I was talking to just, like, we vanished. We just had to go watch. It was just like, we got to go.

Starting point is 02:19:44 Insane. Yeah, this was like wide open pit of people beaten ass for 45 straight minutes. So heavy, the PA shut off at one point. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. But yeah, this was an amazing way to close the weekend. Nails still got it.

Starting point is 02:20:02 Put out a great record last year. Tell me about putting nails on, cementing them as the headline. for the whole thing this year. They just, I think they only played year one, which was in the back booth, which is a 300 cap venue. So it was just kind of crazy 11 years later or 11 fest later, like having them come back and like close it all out. And what was the name of that other venue?

Starting point is 02:20:25 Like the chain of strength. The highlight court. Yeah. No, no, no. Like is that the chain strength year? Cuban Club. The Cuban Club. The Cuban Club was Tampa.

Starting point is 02:20:33 Yeah, yeah. Okay. I was just trying to remember that. That was. early on too. So they played in a small, wow, holy shit. Yeah, they played year one. It was like then blacklisted mongos like things like that. Um, real. But yeah, they just, I mean, the last record they put out is fucking psychotic and it's like just as good, if not better than anything they've ever done.

Starting point is 02:20:53 And it's super heavy. And, you know, like, headliners are fucking hard. You know what I mean? You want to like do something different. It's not the same shit and everything and try to switch it up. And I was like, if there's a, if it's a band that people are going to stick around for and actually still be sighted for, it's definitely nails. And I think they fucking crush it. And then, you know, people were just whooping ass, you know, after 38 fucking bands. Todd sounded unbelievable. They sounded perfect.

Starting point is 02:21:18 Like, the set list was fucking great. Tyler Mullen doing the whole, pretty much the whole last along with them. Like, that was like, greatest combo ever. And I love Fest Todd. Fest Todd being there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's my favorite thing.

Starting point is 02:21:32 He's kicking back. He's relaxing. He's talking about H.C. for two days straight it's the best that dude loves hardcore i haven't seen him in i don't know probably eight years or something i get so it was i just you know anytime i see him i really love talking to him and hanging out of him and yeah i was i was like

Starting point is 02:21:48 they made it work because they're not like you know they don't really do a lot of like that world i guess it anymore but like they were super down and you know it was fucking great so i was glad uh to have them cap everything off they had john edwards doing sound who also did it for us and a few other bands and he's the man shout out to him He was a fucking legend, dude. That was the first time.

Starting point is 02:22:07 He really met him. He's fucking great. He rules and he's so talented and good at his job. He did great. He sounded fantastic. And they saved the day when the whole stage sound shut down. So that was cool. Scanlon.

Starting point is 02:22:21 When something like that happens, how does that feel? I didn't even know what happens because the monitors were still working. So I just looked at me and was just like, and I was like, what? And I like went. I was like, oh, okay, the PA is off. But luckily it was during the drum solo. So it's just like, you know, just the drums go. So I thought they did a drum solo because the PA shut off.

Starting point is 02:22:43 I was back at merch, so I could hear it, but I didn't see what was going on. Interesting. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I'm glad I got turned on before the next song. And then, yeah, with the Tyler Mullum thing, it was funny because he was doing the John Gloo part. You know, like the classic John Glue just, yeah, it was awesome. Yeah. But it was funny because Todd liked that he was doing it.

Starting point is 02:23:04 And, like, you stopped for a second. I was looking at Tyler just going, like, like, mousing him to scream it. It was so funny. But, yeah, I mean, it was sick to see Nails play a hardcore show and fest because, obviously, it's been a minute since they did that. And I do generally think that they enjoyed it, which is nice. And Todd's the man. That's what's all about.

Starting point is 02:23:23 Todd is the man. He loves hardcore more than anybody in the world. He knows more about hardcore more than anybody in the world. So it's only suiting that he ended this day. Nails, one of the greats. I know these drum parts so. Like you wouldn't believe still to this day. They're ingrained in my DNA.

Starting point is 02:23:38 Love this band. And that's FYA. Yeah. And then we saw each other at Universal the next day, Scanlon. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Beautiful. What do you do, Bob, when FYA is over?

Starting point is 02:23:50 We actually, Bob, we saw you, like, get into your car to leave. We were pulling up behind you to load out that trail. Squeezing in there with that goddamn backpack. Big old backpack. How do you got in? What's the first thing you do after something like FYA? After the thing you spent a year putting together, what do you do? Breathe in a huge sigh of relief that it happened.

Starting point is 02:24:16 Go get food because I ate like some grapes at like 8.30 in the morning and I didn't eat anything after that. So I was pretty fucking hungry. It's like what a deer. What did you get? Oh, we went to a house. Beautiful. Met up with some Pensacola kids. Saw the legend Ben Russon and his girl there.

Starting point is 02:24:32 Yeah. That was a treat in itself. Ben and Susie. I saw them earlier. That was great. I just did that and then I used to try to do shit on Monday like the day afterwards. I think we went to Disney to one year and it was a year that I was insanely

Starting point is 02:24:46 sick and I should have been in the hospital and we were there for like nine hours and I walked like 20 miles and I was just falling asleep on benches because I was fucking sick out of my mind. So I'll never do that again. So it's just a lot of chilling getting some food fucking relaxing. What's the injury report looking like? this year?

Starting point is 02:25:06 For the attendees or myself? Attendees. We heard about some broken limbs. There's a Philly kid that hurt his shoulder, I guess. This is all alleged because they are being cool there. I think here he's shoulder. Yeah. I heard there was, there's some noses that weren't too great.

Starting point is 02:25:23 We met a message missing link with the hilarious thing. Yeah, we met a guy who may have broken his collarbone. Probably not, but maybe. He's fine. A couple legs, maybe? Leg and ankle? I heard a leg angle. Walk it off.

Starting point is 02:25:33 You break a collarbone. walk it off, you're fucking good. It's fine. Yeah. Yeah. We had like actual medics this year, so I think maybe that helped. We had the whole setup for that. Huge. Very good.

Starting point is 02:25:44 So, yeah, as far as I know, no major. So nothing major. That's beautiful. That's a beautiful. Yeah. Hey, if you heard yourself out of show, you say you fell skateboarding. If you try to sue a venue, a promoter or a band, fuck yourself. Yes, that's me. That's a me. That's a venue right there.

Starting point is 02:26:00 That's right. Thank you, Scalin. Thank you, Bob. Oh, we went to the university. the next day we saw a scale in there. I just want to say the one thing, the first thing we saw at Universal when we walked in that I've been like crying,

Starting point is 02:26:12 laughing about every 15 minutes since was a little kid running up to... Probably like 10. Probably like 10. So like old enough. Old enough. Exactly.

Starting point is 02:26:22 That's why it's important. He's running up excitedly pointing to his mom trying to get her attention to show her. He's going, Mama! Mama! Bo Bartman! Bo Bartman

Starting point is 02:26:34 And we look Pointing Pointing and we look And it's Homer Simpson That's Hobartman Bo Bartman. Later that evening,

Starting point is 02:26:46 we went to the crazy fucking McDonald's that has all the gimmicks, the, you know, pasta. Yeah, all that shit. Don't ever go there. Don't go there. I didn't even get my, I spent $50 and didn't even get food.

Starting point is 02:26:57 I got a refund. And when Colin recited Bo Bartman, I laughed harder than I have in months. Bo Bartman.

Starting point is 02:27:10 Bo Bartman. Mac changed his the contact for me and his phone to Bo Bartman. It was so, he was so excited and so decisively wrong about what he was talking about. I got to tell my mom

Starting point is 02:27:27 and Bo Bartman is here. This is unreal. Homer Simpson. Mac and I spent the entire flight home just laughing saying Bo Bartman. So that was the best part of F.O.A. I did watch all 37 Simpson.

Starting point is 02:27:39 seasons earlier this year. What do you think? Early last year. It was good until about season 10 and then there would be specific parts of specific seasons that I'll laugh like maybe once. It was a brutal thing to get through.

Starting point is 02:27:52 Dude, let me tell you what. Hold on. You're saying you stuck it out for 27 more seasons after that. Yeah, just waiting for it to get good again. It just is not. The voices get scarier. The whole, it's a fucking thing. Well, let me tell you what.

Starting point is 02:28:06 The opposite of that. I stopped watching Family Guy maybe season 4. It was on all day and night at our hotel. It's unbelievable. It's so good. Still, I'm watching brand new episodes, tears on my eyes. I can't sleep the night before the show because family guy is so good. So remember that next time you try to tear down Peter Griffin and uplift Bo Bartman. Okay.

Starting point is 02:28:37 Who's been better longer? Bo Bartman or P.T. or Griffin, okay? Bo Barkman. All right, that's Hardlorn. Thanks for watching. Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Scanlon. We'll see you so soon. Well done. Good work. Bye.

Starting point is 02:28:52 Bye.

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