HardLore - GRIDIRON (Will Kaelin & Matt Karll)

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

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Hello, welcome. It's almost hardlore time. I'm very excited to let you all know that next Thursday, we'll be back with regular long-form hardlore episodes. Thank you all for your patience these last few weeks while Bo has been on tour. We hope you've enjoyed what we've been able to show you from the hard lore vault, including today's very insane, chaotic, McDonald's filled extended mini with gridiron. Live from FYA, 2023. Enjoy. Hello, welcome. You are on. on the bench, we are in the trench because it's mini hard Lord time. How you doing, Bo? How's your knee? My knee's great. Nice breeze after that gridiron set.

Speaking of which, here we have with us, Big Bill and Crazy Carl from gridiron. Thanks for being here, boys. Thanks for having us, boys. Thanks for all this. This is highly anticipated, long awaited, long overdue. Really? Okay. Good. Long time. By me. Long time. First time, long time.

You know, mutually. How did you like the set today? I was probably one of, if not the, my favorite grid set that we've played so far to date. I was feeling really good about it. You were vibes played. Then Mind Force played and I was like, oh, okay. Well, that's not fair. That's not fair.

That was unbelievable. They're one of those generational. Two pits. Super acts. They had two pits. Two pits that turned into one pit. So, I mean, it's hard to top that. Might have been the craziest FYA set ever.

Wow. There are, you know, there was a, back to the bar. There was a point. point in time where like power trip hadn't quite like gone gone and there was a couple like a United Blood where we played after them. It's hard. It's hard to follow it out. I've been neck I've been back to back with mine force about eight times past two years. It's never fun. No it's not. So welcome. Thank you. Yes. No. All being said amazing soon. Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome.

I mean, okay, so where did this come from? That's a great question. While you were playing, I don't know if you noticed I sang a little part for you. Oh yeah. He was invited personally. Brody's part. The coach. Big Brody's part. You know, the coach had to take over a little bit. He had to get off the bench. The last second.

I was feeling real good. I wound up real tight for this. I was like, this is my last spin kick of the weekend. You know? I've been throwing them all time. You've been throwing them quite a big whole time. It's the grand finale. Towie wakes me up every morning.

That's true. And I got a little, I wound up a little too hot and exploded. That happens. I mean, I saw you in the. Big blowout, bro. The gridiron pit and Van Nuys. That was incredible. The people are obsessed with us.

Twitter became a little bit of war zone. Yeah, they loved that video. Yeah, they did. I'll take it. That's fine. It's a good vid. It's the riff that compels me. Which song, was it trench?

It was trench. And now that part, like that part specifically, it's just kind of like a dead upbeat skank, but now it's like violent every time. That part, I'm proud of that. I love that part. It's just like Youth Today, Button C Sharp. Fuck yeah. Which is basically apery.

You think about it. That's all I've... It is death threat. There you go. That is all I've ever wanted. Yeah, exactly. Is you to today in C-sharp's name. So this...

Okay, two things. Carl, you were living proof of the best monsters make the best bands. Facts. You are... You are an example of the grind. You've been here forever. Waiting for your moment to strike. You were like, I got bars and they don't know it.

In the bushes. In the bushes. In the bushes for 15 years. You're a sniper. Pounce back. Exactly. Just knowing, in your head, writing battlewraps, like, I could fucking smoke this motherfucker. And finally, Will gives you a shot.

Will, we've talked about this many times, privately. My favorite modern hardcore songwriter. Wow. That's too kind. That's way too kind. That's a fact. Wow. Thank you, man.

Will, will, will, go down as a writing legend in hardcore before it's all set. That means the world. I put a lot of pride. Facts. Coming from the point of, I mean, you know, we know, we've had a longstanding friendship. This is, it's a, it's a thing. We got this thing going on. It's a nice give and take. I can feel it. It's real. I love the shorthand grid, by the way, for your band. Grid? Just because we're lazy. It's so much less syllables. I don't fuck with syllables. There was a time. We had a call

duty group chat. This band is based around call of duty. Love it. It all started during the pandemic. We're playing a lot of call duty. And, you know, that's, that's kind of work, hey, let's do a little band. Let's maybe write a little thing. Carl one time this group chat types his name with one L. And I go, that's not how you spell your name. It's Carl with two L. I'm just trying to save some time. So we are the... And that was when you knew you were like, that's it. That's it. That's my singing. It's one. Why say many words. It's one last tap. When I don't have carpal tunnel

in a couple years. When we're all struggling to time. Who's going to be the dumb ass then? Yeah, you're right. You're right. Is that just a little snippet of what happens That's good. So this is like, you, you've told me that you just kind of put these songs together as like, eh, some riffs you had laying around. Yeah, absolutely. And that's like, and it's my album of the year last year. It's insane when I see people putting like, no good at goodby's top 10.

Because you think it's like a joke to you? It's not a joke, but I don't put as much like, I don't know, it's different writing for N EG versus grid iron. Sure. Grid iron, there's no rules. Okay. N. GERD is a little more rules.

Yeah. But with gridiron, when I send something, 10 times out of time, one's like, that's sick. When I said some of N.EG, it's a little more like, I don't know about this part. This part. See, that's on them, you know? But that's on them. It keeps me grounded.

But then I know when I'm writing for a gridiron, I'm like, let's go. Full tilts. We let the dog off the leash. Exactly. We're off the leash. We're trying everything. So yeah, not a joke per se. Sure.

It's a different vibe. I think when there are no rules and no stress, no pressure or anything like that, that's when the best shit happens. Absolutely. You know, like total creative freedom. You know, I just think everything will does is good. Like Will can send any guitar part. And I'm like, yeah, it's awesome. We can do, we can work with this. Yeah, yeah. Someone's going to have to knock me down a peg after

this. This is in full. I will. I want to see your, I want, Sean, will you superimpose his head, like way bigger than his body. Well, the lions are about, lions are about the miss the playoffs. The lions are about this playoff. So, he's a nice, dejecting field. After this, he'll check his phone. And the lions will have been eliminated from the playoffs. So whenever in the game first started, there was a, there was a kind of silliness to it for sure that I really liked. and then the LP you dropped it a little bit you toned it down I think N EG Jams come on

It's very silly There's no words True you know The words were the poems per se Mikey poems My best friend They were silly Shout out Mikey poems

Shout out Mikey poems Big big shot The man We love Mr. Manpopee here But the Meg got less Less funny And then you were like Let's take that place

I'm about to be hilarious I can't believe When I look out And I am doing the side part saying Grand Rapids to Boyertown. And there's a thousand... Sound of Fury, where there's 2,000 days on people saying that?

Saying Boyertown. The town that I grew up in... There were more people at Sound and Fury screaming Boyertown than people that are actually living in Boyertown. That's an amazing fact. That's incredible. There you go.

It's a snapple fact of the day. Your guy said at Sound of Fury, I did one of these from the other stage to watch. And it was like, oh no. Because I did N EG. That's horrifying. That was by far the most insane set of my life.

Yeah. That one was this too. I walked down. I'm like, on the fucking fuck Jerry. Yeah. Shack. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Shack posted all these like Reddit people. It's bizarre. Three six mafia posted it. Huge. But you go to that.

Then I go sit in the trailer for like 10 minutes and I'm like, cool off. Yeah. I got to go do this again. Yeah. And it was amazing. And then you got people with their tears with tears in their eyes saying it's arithmetic bitch. I just grind much more.

Hey, There's another shout to Mr. Poems. A lot of Mikey lyrics. Yeah. Mikey had a lot of great. Mikey had a lot of great ideas that. He wrote you on the bench, me in the trenches. Really?

Yes. So Mikey has sick and twisted thoughts that he. Sends a car. Projects to me. He wants them out into the universe, but I can't do it with N. Where's puppet? Very generous. Mikey just does this.

Wow. We are the puppet. Beautiful stuff. It really is. Are you, do you have another LP in the tank by now? So there's a new N EGLP coming out in April. I don't think that's been announced yet. Wow.

Hard lore. Breaking news. Breaking news. Triple B records. It's done. Beautiful. It's been mastered. It's good to go.

So that's coming out. As a two-time listener, you love it? Be ready. All right. I'm ready. It's incredible. I was born ready. So we got that.

Is it my 20-23 album? It might be. It might be. It could be. It very well could be. You back-to-back. AOTY champs. That'd be incredible.

I'd like a little award. Maybe like some medals. I'll plaque you up, dude. Black? In my office, I just got all these plaques. Colin Young's. The Helen Young Award. Just me and you.

You should do a hard lore awards, honestly. We should. The hard lord. You can, you can workshop that. I'll figure it out. Lordies. The Lordies. The Lordies.

The Lorde's. The Lorde's. The Lord's. The Lord's. It's good. The Lord's, yeah. That's good. Sold. You heard it here.

The 22. Lord winner. Nominated. Grid at least. 2022. Oh yeah. 2020. Excuse me.

Nominated. There might be some new stuff for grid in this coming here. We've got some riffs in the tank. Pardon this interruption. Wow. Bo, it is so good to see you. So good to see you. It's been months.

It feels like years. Obviously, it's manscape time. Tell me about for the first. This has got to be a revolutionary. Having manscaped on tour? Mm-hmm. Tell me. Talk to me. I trimmed last night with using my, my trimmer.

Let's see. I use the preserver every single day. I play in the boxers, the box briefs every night. They're good. They're good. Big fan. Dude, I got to imagine reviving post set every night. Yeah. Yeah, that's the movie.

Real experience. It's really nice. I don't, I don't look forward to touring for that. long ever again if I ever do it. But you better believe I'm going to have a whole separate manscape bag with me. Yeah, it's kind of actually what I did. I have all my like gym and post show things in a little duffle and I go straight for the manscape stuff every time. And then you know, luckily if you use code hardlord 20% off and you get the big lawnmower pack, you're going to get a little travel bag with it. You're going to get all the stuff we're talking about from the

preserver, the reviver. If you get the body watch, it comes with the scrubber. And I'm I didn't bring it on the road. I don't have the scrubber. Dude, I didn't bring it. I've been using the scrubber more than ever. It's so awesome, right? I love it.

I can't stop scrubbing. I can't stop scrubbing. It's crazy. Well, it's so good to see you. I'll see you soon. I can't wait to do a big, huge episode when you get back.

Yes. Harmes way, common suffering tour. Still going now. Still going. Back to the episode. I feel like you, do you play guitar every day?

Every day. That's so crazy. Pretty much. I mean, I've got myself. up a demo every day. You go to your, you go to your office job, selling chairs and shit, yeah, and then you get home

and you just riff. I'm a scrum master by day, I'm riffing by night, man. You do a phone demo, a ricka-gung-k-gong-k-gong- Oh, playing to your phone demos. Yeah, usually I'm golfing. I'm out there. You're a golfer? I'll be out in the car, three, four, butt lights deep. Let me see that head. Yeah. I mean, does this guy go off? That guy calls. A little known, little known fact.

James and I from Harmsway love golf. Okay, I want to get a four-sum next time I record with Andy. in Chicago. Oh, perfect. We'll go. That would be incredible. Oh, perfect.

Derek and N. D.G. Great golfer. Really? I'm horrible, but I got a set of clubs. I'm not good either. I like to drink. I like to have a card. It's all about the vibes.

The card is, it doesn't matter. It's all matters. I might as well be drinking at that way. I'll cat. Drinking, smoke a couple of sigs. Easy. There's a driving range that it like faces the lake on Lake Shore Drive in Chicago. Okay, we're hitting that.

It's beautiful. Yeah. It's beautiful. So when we record, we'll do that. Is it for sure with Andy? I don't know. He's just my guy. Yeah.

Like, you know how people have their producers? I got my guy. When we ever venture out? I don't know. We recorded three LPs at Brick Top. It's just like, it's summer camp.

Recording with him was so easy. He makes everything so easy. He's very good. Your band is also good. And which helps. Your drummer's good. You're good. Thank you.

You got the silly stuff to say. Perfect. Not the bushes. Exactly. Out the bushes. That, ooh. Finally. Put that one in that.

Write that down. Write that down. Get your phone out. That's in the bank. We might have. to take that out. We have some pretty, we have some pretty, uh,

pretty cool track listings in the, in the tank for next record. Yeah. Song title first is the way to go. Yeah, we have like 30 of them. I like that. I like that. Yeah, there's some good ones. We have the, the name of the next record already. See, that's, that's my vibe.

That's a good vibe. I've never done that before. You know who did it in the way where like, people, look, Fury 5 is such a brilliant band in so many ways. And people don't understand it. in the come and get it insert the very last thing

in the liner notes is next time it's personal oh come on now that's like the hate breed ending with the beginning that's incredible I want to know the lore on that can you figure it out someday I'll ask I thought you knew it well they just were like this is sick

let's do it again that's awesome yeah I love that they just have I'm a big reusing guy I love it's all back I cannot believe a callback you are the case of the call. You love a callback. I'll be doing them.

Because it's like I get to it's lazy. But it seems. But it's genius. It's like you did it. The hate breed thing is they toured on satisfaction for soul or I'm yeah satisfaction for so long that they then wrote perseverance and. Rise of brutality.

One year apart. One year apart. So they was like probably all one writing cloud. King Diamond's right. Fatal portrait. How? Abigail Dem. Conspiracy.

The eye all one year apart. I mean, how do you even create a subject list? The mask, Dumb and Dumber, Ace Ventura. One year, same year. But all shot in different times, out of order. Dumb and Dumber was shot first. Ace Ventura came out first. He became a way bigger star.

Renegotiated. For the massive. Oh, for Dumb and Dumber. I got you. Because he was like, wait a minute. Daniels made $50,000 for Dumbull. That's all he got. Poor bastard.

The sequel that just came out, he did it for $50,000. again just as a That's actually Is that true? That's pretty cool That's some hard lore That's some more hard lore We're dropping knowledge

Right now Love Jim Carrey So do we We gotta get Jim on the show We gotta get Jim dude I mean napalm death video That's one of the most classic YouTube videos ever

You guys eat good huh? A little bit Yeah we tend Yeah What do you think The combined weight is here I don't want to Oh that's me

We don't need to do No no no I'm gonna set it Our combined Our combined Our combined I'll send over under for you At 500

Easy Yeah Yeah I'm just two, 30 right now. That was a week. I've been saying, I've been patting my stats

throughout the holidays. Perfect. Just really, it's all going to come off one day. Absolutely. And, you know, we've gone through this.

We're yo-yoers. I don't carry a very David term. You go, up and you're down. You're up and you're down. And it's just boring. Life is boring if you're just one thing forever. I'm going to be, you never know you're going to get.

I think the over under for all four of us is, it's, yeah, it's over 800 for sure. The secret to me losing weight would be if they added a Fedra to McDonald's. And then I would be. I look like Fabia. If anybody's listening. Anybody from McDonald's listening?

I love to play a little game at home called Eat McDonald's every day until I get sick of it. The app? The app? Love the app. Oh, the app. They really dialed it in. Going in, oh, I'm DR 26. How many points you got on the app?

Let's check. Yeah, we check. So I remember mine last night was 3500. 3575. To be fair, I use 6,000 on a big mat. Oh, okay. That's fair. Let's see how many I got.

We're low enough the app. I don't think I have that. I'm new to the app game. As of my. I've got, oh, it's running up. We're at 6,000. We're not that much. 6,000.

29,000. 29,000. 1399. We got some work to do. Oh, wait, it just popped up. I got 8,300330. I am. Yeah, we're up.

Ronald McDonald. I love that they give you the scale. Shout to the devs. Yeah, yeah. The UI devs. It goes past the max. If McDonald's is looking for a scrum master, hit me up. I would love to work on.

Mine is 23,000 past the max. Start using the points, bro. I use them every day. He just can't keep up. Legitimately McDonald's every day. Four days a week. Four days a week. And then like that's just like a lunch or a dinner, what's your body.

Yeah. And I rotate, you know. We had some last night. Morgan's Burlock is the biggest pussy in the history of humanity. Who? He's the supersateman guy. He ruined my life. He did ruin it.

He ruined my life. I got some good Instagrams for you to follow of vintage McDonald's stuff. Oh, brother. My boy Chris from Internal Bleeding. He follows it. We always comment on the stuff. Love it. Love it.

What's that? barbecue place outside of Detroit, near Detroit. Slow's. Slow's. Slow's great. It's good. We're into that?

I'm going to give a little deep cut shot. It's been a minute. So I'm, you know. Slows is great. There's a place in Grand Rapids called Daddy Peets. Little Shack.

But who's ever going to be in Grand Rapids? I hope they are. Come to Grand Rapids. Yeah. Was the skate shopping? You saw us there. I saw it.

You in about. Skate Shopping? Was that in Grand Rapids? No, you're talking about. That was a couple. Annarbor one was launch. Oh, yeah. There's refuge in Deerborn.

Refuge. That's the one. Yeah, Refuge was sick. Refuge was legendary. What's your meal of choice? Yeah, where are we? Right now, you're going fast food. Okay. You're driving home to the hotel here. You see something. You're going to be like, I need that. Carl, you go for us. I'm starving. I'm sorry. So, McDonald's, because it's old faithful, never lets you down. Never. You know it's there for you. At almost every turn, I'm going double triple cheeseburger. So two triple cheeseburgers. This is his order. Triple Cheeseburger War.

I am also an alley convert on the Triple Cheeseburger. I sent you a text. I'm not. I always order more food than I eat. Pro Moved. So it's two for 350 McChicons. I want one.

I'm not going to just order one. I feel like I'm getting kind of you're burning. Jammed up by Ronald. So I'm going two triple cheeseburgers, two McDoubles or not McDonald's, McChiccichens. And then Will started adding cheese to his

McChickens. So now I'm a McChicken with Cheese Man. And then either a medium or large fry, depending on how, you know, what the vibe is. And then I'm a sweet tea guy. Yeah, medium fry. Love me sweet tea. No carbonation. I need the carbonation.

Medium or large fry and a sweet tea. Those do not cancel each other out. Okay. I won't take McDonald's. I probably would be up there too for me. Sure. Yeah. I'm going to go with Taco Bell.

I do the same thing. It's, it's whatever the box meal is. Oh, dude. One of those. And then I'm just browsing that $1, $2 a $2. Take one of those. I'm really enjoying the new salsa Verdean one. The $2.

I've yet to try it. I saw it. Throw a couple of those on there. Three four soft potato tacos. I throw them in the fridge and eat him at like 1 a.m. drunk. That's disgusting. Get home from the bar.

You just eat one over the sink. You don't get a place. It's like eating a frisbee. It's like a so deep-fried bell sound. That tortilla. That tortilla in the fridge gets grim. You got a hot-up. And then zero.

Baja Blasasas. You got it. You got to save someone. You're trying to watch your fix. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I can't be going full sugar. I don't want to tell me. Everything else, full of nutrition. Ful hundred percent. Beautiful nutrition. Lettuce.

The good, lettuce. Yeah. Are calories not a nutrient? Exactly. You need them to survive. I think McDonald's is both of ours up there, but not necessarily number one. Have we, if we worldwide number one, no quush. Yeah.

I think that's fair. In them out is my regional number one. That's fair. If we're going to my regional, culvers. I mean, if we're massive. I forgot already that you guys are Northern boys. Let me tell you something. I've been trying to get this mother.

fucker to go to Colvers. Come on, for so long. I'll go double mushroom Swiss. There's one here. Our first night here, we went to Texas Roadhouse.

Okay. Had a great meal. Okay. First time. Blumen. Is it, it's not called a Blumenone. No, it's called like the

Bacus. Cactus. Cactus fucker. Cactus. You got to go to the fried pickles there. They're delicious. He had the rolls. I had the rolls.

There's a lot of memes about the rolls. So the thing is. I had to close my eyes for about 50 seconds. I did the fork down. The thing is, as we all agreed, the sides. not great, but your steak and your rolls.

A sleeper. And your Coke behind the bar, no problem. A Texas Roadhouse sleeper? Chili. They got the chili. You didn't like the chili? I love the chili. I'm not a bean in chili type guy.

I'm in no beans. The point is there was a culvers in the same parking lot. So we got the custard for dessert. Yeah, the custard is next level. Yeah. Concrete mixer, right? Cocky dough. But I've been trying to get him a butterburger.

Dude, it's delicious. Maybe some cheese curds. Oh, the curds are delicious. Great onion rings. You're standing your thread. They also have some weird things, like a pot roast sandwiches, which is delicious. They got a pork chop fried thing. They have their own root beer that is excellent, including a diet. They have a diet. Okay. Very foamy, though. Don't get that the drive-through.

Oh, because they'll fuck you. Because it's too much foam. They screw you with that. You got to. Do you answer, he asked me a question. I don't know for sure. Do they make floats with the custom? They do. They're delicious. Yeah. Is that what we should get to make? Double mushroom Swiss. That's your word. We're going to go home. My, my regional, without a doubt, is Wawa. I mean, yeah. I mean, that's a no-brainer. There's been times where I've landed. You've picked me up.

We've gone to Wawa. I'm only there for like 36 hours. And literally, there's not enough time. It's just Wai-D. Yeah. The last time he was there, we ate five meals, all of which we're at Wawa. Dude, the bottled Arnold Palmer is one of the greatest beverages. The diet one.

You got on this. The jug of the- You go to half gal. You got to go out of. The diet one is still like 50 calories. Yeah. When, Harmsway, we spent time outside of Philadelphia for a few weeks.

and we ate at this place and this guy was asking us about Chicago. He was like, what kind of like gas stations do you guys got and we're just like, oh, we just have regular ones

man, we don't have it. And he literally said to me or said to us, he said, so where do you eat? Dude, that was the question. It's like, if you're not eating Wawa.

That was my brother. We run on gas stations. Like Wawa, Wawa, sheets, Royal Farms, which their specialty is like fried chicken. I haven't hit that yet.

Had Royal Farms on the way to Atlantic City the other day. Yep. Yep. So like, and Wawa, I love, you know, I love in and out. I love

Culver's. I would not trade Wawa for any, any other food place in the world. 24-7, 365, it's there. They're open 25. They're open 25. They're open 25. They're open 25. They're open 25. So let me hear it then. What's the order

from Wawa? Because this is passion is what I'm getting. Normally, sometimes I'll just go your normal Italian hoagy with, you know, oil and vinegar. You know, let's tomato onions. Yeah. But now I've been getting a little wacky going out there. They have breaded chicken strip sandwiches.

So I go bread and chicken trip in a roll, pepper jack cheese, barbacophilo sauce. So barbecue, barbecue and buffalo together. Finally. Yes. Barbecufoil with lettuce and pickles.

This is blowing my mind. That's it. It's all you need. It's incredible. My two there are the Thanksgiving one. Oh, yeah. Oh, the gobbler? Yeah, the gobbler. The hot gobbler? Oh, buddy. I'm a hot gobbler. The hot gobbler? Unbelievable. The gravy? Yeah. dripping from your fucking paws.

Oh, dude, yeah, you literally, it should come with a mop. Yeah, I love. It's genuine. It's pretty disgusting. The bread is just like, mush. I'm a huge meatball sub guy from there. Wawa meatballs are... I like a weird...

The pepperoni pizza sandwich. That one's good, too. Or you're getting a little donut, you're getting the half gallon. I'm going, I'm walking out of there. Bag of chips. You know what's funny? I'm like the Limes meme. It's going everywhere.

We've had a few tours, end in Philly for just like coincidentally and on the way back it's like well what are you going to get at midnight on a Sunday or whatever It's Wawa. You're going home Wawa and Sheets. Oh yeah. You're right. She's on the way. But here's the thing. We'll have

some money in our pockets and a tour. I walk out of that thing like Ben Affleck Carrying Dunkin' Donuts. Absolutely. Mac and cheese bites. When the band pays for the meals. It's on Ben. It's on band. Everyone in the bag. I'll not forget. Detain one time. We go through Wendy's. It's after we played a show, I think with freedom or something.

We're pulling up five Baconator meals, large Coke. Tip the lady. It's on band. We did. On band. We got paid like $100 for that show. We were in Tulsa like two months ago. Or was that Tulsa where we did Waterburger?

No. Waterburger on the band like four times. Yes, yeah. We'll cover this one. Waterburger Converts. Yeah, we're converts. Big fun. We enjoyed a brand new one in Birmingham.

Birmingham. We went to, we did Furnace Fest and that's some good stuff. It's an enhanced Wendy's. I think it's an enhanced McDonald's. It's a larger patty. You got to go in. I feel like you got to go in. I don't think the drive-thru does it justice.

I got a thumb through the ketchup. I got to find the little five. Oh, we got to get the spicy. Oh, it's fine. See, this is real hard. This is the bottom of every packet of these ketchup. There's a number, one through five. And what does it mean?

It's the strength of the vinegar. You're kidding. I swear to that. How did you find this out? I'm a mama. Nick Stewart said, yo, fucking Waterburger do the best fucking ketchup. They rarely do. You look at the fucking numbers.

It's one through five. I mean, I have ketchup stand. You've seen me use the ketchup. Oh, yeah. You're a big ketchup guy? Yeah,

five gallon bucket. Okay, now, now do you fuck with mayonnaise? I'm actually kind of into mayo now. I'm a mayo man. I'm a mayo man. I used to be a mayo hater.

But I'm into like Chipoli mayo big time. Aoli? Do you just put some like pepper in it? It's like pepper and mayo. Yeah. Also, A little pepper chup. A little pepper chup.

Oh, another wrong with that. You've been to Europe before? I've been to UK once. That's it. They got like curry ketchup. Normally I'm not a big curry guy. Yeah, neither mine.

Curry ketchup is very nice. Got some off Amazon because I was interested what it is curry ketchup. Yeah. Not bad. I order the water burger spicy ketchup

direct. I get off Amazon, yeah. Hunts? Two for 12.99. You can't pick the number. Not a particularly good. That's actually kind of a bad day. But it goes along with it.

Hines makes a jalapeno ketchup. I'm just throwing it out there. Is it the same though? No. Try doesn't hit. Hunts all natural tomato ketchup. It's not bad. I like warm ketchup.

Hunts? Hunts. Come on, man. It's got a back. It's a PA resident. I'm Heinz till now. It's new. It's new and it's like thicker.

Okay. It's divine. We could go for two hours on this. I'm just crazy. Yeah. He's fucking crazy. We're just at fast food. We haven't even touched into like olive gardens.

We touched TR. We touched TR for a moment. I've toured Italy so many. Oh, yeah. Every time I've been family. I've been family. Many times. One time we go

It's Olive Garden Everybody orders a Diet Coke Yeah They bring a craff Of Diet Coke We're sitting at like Nights of the Roundtable I literally looked up

And just all like They said Abundanza Hugging us Some guy gave me a Diet Coke Before the set Oh The worst

Dude funny story yesterday Some dude Wokes up to me Taps me on the shoulder I turn around He opens up his backpack Pools out a can A Diet Coke

And hands it to Ice cold It's still cold It takes a can out For himself doesn't say a word to me. Cracks it. We cheers and he walks away.

I haven't seen him the rest of the weekend. An angel. That's the coolest thing that ever happened. That was the ghost. Was that fate? Did that happen? Yes, that literally happened. Was that last night when you were sleeping, brother?

No. Yeah, that was a ghost. The ghost of F. You woke up sop and wet from the pants. Being like, die coke. We need a DC sponsorship so bad. Yeah, we'll figure something. If you are listening to this, they're not.

They're not. We'll take a van. Not yet. Not yet. Ronald's on his way. But Diet Coke, we're still working. We're going to storm.

We're going to get to Atlanta one day. We're going to storm that fucking tower. We'll be insurexed. We'll be talking to Coca-Cola. We're going to be fighting polar bears. They're on our side. They're on our side. They're in captivity in the basement.

I'm riding one. We pulled them out. We pulled one out. We pulled one out. Let's go back to Groin Iron a little bit, I guess. Are you familiar with the Who Do You Do question that we asked? Oh, great. Great.

not. Who do you do when you're on stage? What two, three guys are you like, I'm this guy, this guy, and this guy? Colin of Arabia gave us this question. He does Rollins and Choke from Slapshot. So it's like, that's who I do when I'm performing. Okay. Okay. Who do you do? Honestly, like action Bronson, which is kind of weird, but like. That's very accurate. I mean, I, there's nothing weird about it. You don't have to like look like it. It's just like who you're like, you know, like. I don't move. I will, I don't move much because I can't. can't move much. But, you know, so I'm very like, I'm pretty stationary. You know, I move side to side a little bit, but I'm not, I'm not jumping. You know, these feet are staying planted. I got

a couple in the bank right here. I've got two. You, you're, you're agile. I'm very agile. You get around. You look at me, you think this guy is stationary. Another, I love an agile, big boys. I really, I got one more sleeper that, someone that I really admire their stage presence, because they're kind of have the same build is Big Carl from Strength for a reason. One of the greatest. Great answer. Great answer. A god.

You know, he's just an enforcer. Yep, straight up. One of the greatest to ever live. Okay. Bill. Scott Ian. Oh, I mean, the stop is undeniable. It's a stop.

It's undeniable. The fucking SOD last show, like, it's undeniable. That, that. Oh, man. Billy bio? Who ain't doing Billy? Yeah, it's very true. We're all, if we go,

if we do it. It's just, it's the. at all? We're doing, really. What's the remind me which biohazard video is it where he spins in and out of frame? Oh, that's Bobby. That Bobby does. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're absolutely right. Bobby's got a great stage person. You know, the dynamo where Bobby goes

bleh. Him and the white devil set. Just watch. Dude, that dynamo set where they just play in front of planet Earth. Literally every person in the world is that there. They went. Yeah. Yeah. So probably those two. I'm trying to think. Billy and Scott Ian is a great.

That's a good answer. I like that. And they're skinny guys. Yeah. I don't really have a big guy that I'm like, doesn't matter. Trying to emulate. I don't know.

I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm Pete Steal and Jorge. We're like, you know. Yeah. You got the heights. Yeah. You got the boots. Yeah. You got the kicks.

Yeah. You got the kicks. Unfortunately. I used to do, I used to do porcel. Okay. And, uh, Hetfield. Those are my guys. Headfield might be.

Those are my guys. I mean, I play my guitar low. Yeah. Yeah. I play my guitar as low as it goes. You're a low guy. I'm a low man. And that's all headfield, Jimmy Page, you know.

We're, dude, they think we're crazy. For what? I'm a high guy. I can't hit. It's different on base. It's, you know, it's sick. You get the spider, you know? It looks dope.

But low down is too low. You look crazy. The best low guy, the base player's suffocation right now. I told you about this. Dude, he just puts it on the ground like a stand-up, but it's in a full-on normal base. Some Adam's family. It is, dude, it's unbelievable. It's chaos.

Well, this is 30 beautiful minutes with gridiron. That went real quick. Doesn't it? Time flies when you're having fun. It just does. Some fellows chatting. This is all we want. I didn't get enough food talk, frankly.

I'm starving. What do we eating? Culvers. I think we go to Culver's. I would love for you to try that. I think by the time I get out of here, it's probably going to be another wawa. It's a wawa. It's old faith.

Oh, they do it Wawa here. I forgot. I forgot. That's right. It don't hit like it doesn't home. There's something in the bread down here. That's not. A real thing is we

don't eat in and out outside of California. I respect that. In and out in Texas? The Texas one doesn't really do it. Those are fake in and out. They're fake. Like all the wawas down here are fake wawas. Wow.

Never, nothing south of, no wawa's south of Delaware is a real wildfire. Which makes me wonder is the culver is going to hit. That is true. The custard did. The custard was real good. Is the gobbler still in season?

I don't think so. It's January. I'm counting down. I'm working down the calendar. You've got like one of those like you got 10 months. the dude in Billy Madison, but instead of the hit list, it's just like a calendar until the gobbler comes back. Gobbon and lipstick on.

Gravy. This could not have gone any better. Thank you guys so much. Thanks for having us, guys. We're all hungry. Starved. Let's go eat. You are hungry watching this now.

Let's go eat. Thank you. Listen to gridiron. No good at goodbyes. No good at hello's either. Thanks for watching. Bye.