HardLore - Hard Songs by Soft Bands

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

Months after presenting you their picks for "soft songs" by "hard bands", Colin and Bo finally present their highly requested picks for HARD songs by soft bands... Hard and soft are as subjective as they come, but enjoy our insane rationalizations to why these songs belong in our least hardcore-oriented episode yet (sorry!) Listen to the official playlist here: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4qM43HqPA39ZiRNE8p93N8?si=4f8b75e98cdd408e Apple Music - https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/hardlores-hard-songs-by-soft-bands/pl.u-yZyVWdLtd4kG1p3 Comment a song we missed below to potentially win 2 weekend passes to Tied Down fest! HardLore Official Website/HardLore Records store: https://hardlorepod.com Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe Check out our merch at https://knotfest.com/store/?view=hardlore Find all of our videos at https://knot1.co/3vWXsbx TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Episode Preview 0:48 - HardLore Time 3:36 - Live - All Over You 6:03 - Phil Collins - In The Air Tonight 7:36 - Third Eye Blind - Narcolepsy 9:41 - Morrissey - Irish Blood, English Heart 11:46 - Weezer - Hash Pipe 14:09 - Saves The Day - As Your Ghost Takes Flight 15:17 - Saves The Day - Banned From the Back Porch 16:14 - Third Eye Blind - How's It Gonna Be 17:13 - Coheed & Cambria - No World For Tomorrow 18:31 - Tool rocks 19:16 - Bjork - Army of Me 21:36 - Torche - Tarpit Carnivore 23:19 - Johnny Cash - Boy Named Sue 24:37 - Faith No More - Jizzlobber 27:13 - The Stooges - Search & Destroy 28:16 - Hans Zimmer - Gladiator Medley 28:55 - Classical music rocks 30:38 - Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time... lmao 32:02 - My Chemical Romance - Mama 34:52 - Pat Benatar - Love is a Battlefield 36:59 - The Mountain Goats - No Children 38:55 - Alice in Chains - Rooster 39:59 - Alice in Chains - Sludge Factory 41:38 - Pardon this interruption... 45:21 - Citizen - The Night I Drove Alone 46:26 - DVORAK - SYMPHONY No. 9 49:15 - The Who - Behind Blue Eyes 50:18 - The Cranberries - Hollywood 51:49 - The Cranberries - Salvation 53:08 - Melissa Etheridge - I'm The Only One 55:08 - CCR - Fortunate Son 56:57 - Collective Soul - Heavy 58:14 - Alanis Morissette - You Gotta Know (lol) 1:00:16 - Lady Gaga - G.U.Y. 1:02:02 - Goo Goo Dolls - Iris 1:04:00 - Katy Perry - Mannequin 1:05:33 - Fleetwood Mac - Silver Springs 1:07:56 - Oasis - I Hope, I Think, I know 1:08:48 - Temple of the Dog - Hunger Strike 1:11:19 - Into Another - Ungodly 1:12:35 - Tears For Fears - Mad World 1:14:46 - halsey - honey 1:16:23 - Led Zeppelin - Kashmir 1:21:14 - Next week on HardLore...   HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER   For sponsorship opportunities, email us! [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I'm going to need you to sit tight for this next pick. Song is by Stephanie Joanne Germanada. You may know her better as Lady Gaga. This song is called Guy G-U-Y. Oh. So I'm going to demonstrate to you right now how hard this fucking riff is. Welcome. It's Hardlord time.

How are you, Bo? I'm doing so, so well. Fantastic. This is going to be a fun one. You know, we've been talking about this for weeks. We've been putting it off. for weeks. We decided to pivot last minute from this when we did an episode about soft songs by hard

bands. Right. Which was like almost there's, I think there's far fewer. There are far more hard songs by soft bands. Like this is a broad. Yeah, this is a pretty broad category. But the thing is that we have to basically not talk about hardcore for two hours, you know, or an hour and a half or whatever.

Yeah. We wanted a need for it. kind of. Yeah, we wanted to build to it and make people go, what about the opposite? And then we go, okay, I guess we could do that when in reality that was the original plan all along. But, you know, I'll try to like equate all these parts to hardcore bands just to see like, I don't know, just to give it, give them a little piece. Well, yeah, you got to give them, like, we need to say the song and then the reason why. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, it can't just be, yeah, that's, you know, there has to be the justification. for it. Yeah. And I've got a pretty good solid justification all around. And just a heads up, there's going to be quite a few non, like exclusively non-horcore bands, obviously, but also like quite a few like, what kind of reactions? I think they're

all going to be what? What? I think this is going to be our most what, our most controversial episode to date, I would say. Yeah, yeah. Which, you know, we understand. It's about time. But, you know, here's some weird stuff. that none of it's even really weird.

A lot of it is very accessible. Yes. But from another perspective can be seen as something entirely different. Yeah. And we are here to offer you that perspective. We're taking you on a journey. So we each picked about 20 songs from 20 artists that we think are kind of hard for some reason or another.

Whether it's, and correct me if I'm wrong, I was thinking of it either lyrically a lot of lyrically or like partwise or even just like... That's the thing is mine are almost zero lyrically. Oh really? Oh, that's good. Mine will be a good contrast then

because I have quite a bit of lyric. I figured from your other list and the mad ball pick, I figured that's where your mind was. That's the whole thing for me. Yeah, I got it. I got one or two of those, but mostly it's just like,

damn, this is kind of hard. Gotcha. Okay, that's cool. I like that. All right. You want me to set it off? I would like you to set it off. My first pick is a song called All Over You by live from the album throwing copper.

Out of over you. The song has an actual breakdown in it. How does it go? It goes down. Down down. Oh, yeah. And it's like built like an actual pit part. Hits like an actual pit part.

Wow. It's legit hard. I've tried to rip it off before to no avail. It like didn't come out as hard. Isn't it funny? There are parts that we have tried to rip off so many times. Like you know the breakdown to Time Bomb 100 is the first song? Just the gugagun, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung,

try to rip that off for like three records. And like you just kind of can't do it. You kind of can't. It's every single. Like, pit part that I love in existence is very contextual. Absolutely. What comes before and what comes after make them what they are. I love that.

Kickback Forever War Pit would not be the same without the slow lead up, without his voice going over it. Wow. Or it being in the middle with a little bit left to go. Yeah. There's every single pit has context. and in us trying to rip off the all over you pit by live, we found that like it's it's the part happening amongst non-hard things that makes it hard.

Yeah. Even though the verse, the song starts with like big snare and big riff kind of verse. But they are unequivocally a soft band. A soft man. Like lightning crashes is the hit and that's, placenta fall to your flow. Talking about placentas falling to the floor and then giving you big pit parts.

And to me, this sounds like burn or something. Like this sounds like a burn mash part. Based on that, I think even though we're gonna be parallel lanes, I believe on your pick. My first pick had to give it to my boy, Phil Collins. A little song called,

in the air tonight. It's all been apicalized. Now, now, not only is the lyric, are the lyrics incredible. If I saw that you were drowning, I would not give you a hand. Yeah. Like, it's all about, like,

it's all been apicalized. Yeah. It's also in drop D. Is it really? It's in drop D. And there's a part, like, there's a part where the guitar and it's just like,

it just rings out. And with a, it's a, Who put in the air tonight in drop D? It must be the key that he sings in or something where it was like a little too high. He's got a high register. I really don't know. There's an incredible YouTube of him where the song starts.

Everyone's jamming. He's backstage still and he's got his headset mic on your mic. And he walks around. He sings the whole song walking around and like, but the pain I know. No, no, no. And then literally, you and me sits, like the very last second. Wow.

Very last second. And if I'm not mistaken, I think that song is about like a manager or someone who like fucked somebody over. And he's just like, well, fuck you. I could feel it coming in the air tonight. I'm about to kill this man. Exactly.

That's hard, dude. That's pretty hard. Come out. Big Phil. That's fun. Big fan. My next pick is a song called Narcolepsy. by third eye blind from the album third eye blind i have a third eye blind pick too very soft intro

into rate that it's like too peep bo bo boo oh okay okay yeah yeah into raging verse the how'd you like to be alone and drowning uh into an actual breakdown wow it's like a slow skank part of the the soft intro riff. It's like it like stops till I find this narcolepsy. Slide into another nightmare. Bow. Yes, dude, you're right. It's an actual skank, dude. Wow, I never really. Some snapcase shit straight up.

Yeah. The third-eyed song I pick, I'll get it's later on, but it's a hundred percent lyrical. So it's a funny. This is a hard song. Yeah, it's just hard. You know what my favorite song is off that record that I didn't pick and then you didn't pick is graduate. Graduates crazy, dude. That song, if I was just in a room with my buds

and that song came on, I would lose my mind. This song is so awesome. Remember graduating? It's so fun. We did it. I did it. I got my punk ass off the street. A lot of these songs, a few of these.

This one in particular are songs that like me and my friends in high school would find and be like, dude, this is a breakdown. Uh-huh. Like this counts as a breakdown. Third-eye blind has break, and then just rationalizing with ourselves. Just like, no. These parts are breakdowns. I heard when they played, uh, the big room at Soma a few years ago,

uh, people were pitting. People were pitting, dude. It's like an infamous moment when Michael Morrissey pitted to Wolfmoon when he saw a typo. Like, like spin kicked during Wolfman. I've done that for one of the bands coming up. So we'll talk about that. Excellent. All right.

Yep. My next one, you're going to love this. And there's quite a few. I think musically, this song is hard as well as lyrically. And this is one of my two. Irish Blood, English, Heart by Morrissey. The guitar intro? The, because it's almost, it's a gallop, you know?

Yeah. It's like kind of. It should be. And then it comes in raging, much like narcolepsy and all over you. And then the second verse, the. and then I will die with both my hands on tide is one of his hardest lines. Both of my... And it's just the whole song is fuck you to the entire country's government.

Yeah. And being like, I really wish I could talk about being English, which is now this many years later in hindsight, it's like, what do you really wish, Maas? You know, that's interesting because like on the same record, on the last song, he's like every is and every is him thrown my way to stay like he's defending himself saying like I'm not these things but it's like now he's given up and been like I'm yeah I kind of believe all that at this time in 2004 yeah it's it seems like we on in the fucking song before it he's like America has a president that's never black female or gay until that day you have nothing

to say to me what does this man believe yeah what do you want I don't get it. I just think, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, this song is hard. It's cool. It says, fuck the British government. Fuck the queen.

Fuck the queen's mama. Fuck the queen's mama's mama. Fuck the queen's mama's daddy. It's crazy. And spit upon the name Oliver Cromwell. So it's so dope. Crazy. How can you fit that into a melody?

That's insane. That's one of those things that only he can do. Yeah. The only man he's afraid of is Robert Smith. from the cure. My next pick, band called Weezer. Oh.

A little song called fucking hash pipe, brother. Let me tell you a story. I think I've told on the show before. The first vinyl record I ever owned was a hash pipe seven inch single. I'll tell you what I did.

I put it on the wrong RPM because I didn't know that was a thing. And what I heard was it goes And I was, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, a kherry. And I was like, I found the music that I like. Weezer in hashpipe at 33 RPM defined what I look for in music.

The first domino, dude. The first one was hash pipe. At the same time as Grimlock Thirst for Immortality, I had hashpipe 33 RPM. It's the heaviest thing. I've ever heard to this day. When I first heard it, I was like,

how can anyone palm mute that fast? Because it was very... Didn't your dad say no one can play that fast? That was one with the underdogs, or spit my rage. That was spit my rage. I was just trying to learn how to do triplets and my dad walked through his office

where all the equipment was. And he was like, ah, they only had to play it once in the studio. Like, impossible, you know. Yeah. But I literally, because what's the BPM? It's like 120?

Dint, dun, dint, d, d. Like the most easy The easiest time upon me And I was like I was like 10 or whatever And I was like I can't believe this I'll never be able to do this

I can't Yeah I mean it's pretty much The hardest song ever And I don't agree with what he's saying Is it about Obviously I know what a hash pipe is But is that what the song is about I mean probably

Probably Like you He's like yeah You guys are all stressed out And you know You got your problems I don't give it shit I got my hash pipe

In honorable mention Pinkerton has a few like kind of heavy songs. It's like a heavy record. But tired of sex has like a real real bear. Like a half-time. Yeah, it's crazy. Good pick.

This next one you're going to have no reference for. But it's possibly the softest band ever. It saves the day. On the record, stay what you are. They have a song called As Your Ghost Takes Flight. I have a saves-the-day song on my post. Beautiful.

I always forget where you stand with them in particular, but the song is all about crucifying someone against a wall, collecting their blood and bottles, and then drinking it in front of the neighbors just to show them what a scumbag they are. And it's just a graphic, fun way to describe a murder. And I just, like, he's got a lot of creepy, weird lyrics, obviously, and there might even be harder musical songs,

but when I think of, like, it's like a death metal song played to the least death metal music. It's like the lyrics of an autopsy song put to the least autopsy music. I think that is what drew me to them as a young man. Interesting. It's like the genuinely like hateful

lyrics. Like the like I'll dig out your eyes with a spoon and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I'm in. Soul. Well, high school me, this is all he wanted. He wanted hatred and malice.

The song, the Saves the Day song I picked. It's banned from the back porch, the last song on Thrubingle. Dude, that's a straight-up Five Deadly Venoms riff, you know? That's an awesome riff. That's a straight-up, badass riff. If you listen to it closely

in the context of the rest of the record, it's mastered and mixed differently. It's a completely different. Different session. His voice is, he aged a little bit. Yeah. Dude, great pick. It's also in drop.

That song's in Drop D as well. That sounds like Drop D. That sounds like Drop D. Do, do you do, do, jude, jit-d-bitt. I like actual kind of thoroughly hard song where the first time I heard it, I was confused. I thought it was a cover or something. Right.

Because even the verse is like all down. Pretty good. Hard song. They got tracks, dude. They do. I'll do my third eye blind since we did some repeat. There you go. This is going to be real on the nose.

How's it going to be? Lyrically. This is pure lyrics. The musically, it's like as soft as it gets. But when he says like when you don't know me, when I'm not around, because I don't care. How's it going to be? that's fucking hard dude the whole song is like how are you going to handle this because i really don't give a shit it's like it's cold it's uh it's a song that like at times in my life has been

difficult to listen to so it it like it does it makes it when i hear that line it's it's one of the ones that makes me go shit right he was pissed he loved drugs and he hated this chick whoever is yeah Huge banger. Perfect record. That record's unbelievable. One of the greats. Okay, so speaking of spin kicking for bands, not meant to be spin kick to.

Spin cucked. Cohit and Cambria. From a record called No World for Tomorrow. The song is called No World for Tomorrow. I wouldn't call Cohit a soft band. I was just going to say, yeah. Like overall, they've got, they're very riff-oriented, but track for track and the discobacco.

The soft outweighs the hard 100%. Okay. Because most of it is like, first two albums are like half emo, half Prague rock with a little bit of metal. And now the metal's kind of fully gone. This point was where they were like, I can tell in the studio they were like, should we just put a straight up breakdown right here? Really? And that's what they do. It feels like that.

Just a straight up like jing, jing, jun, jing, gung, jen, with the intention of Mosh. we're going to make a playlist out of all these songs. Oh, 100%. I bet you I've heard it before because Ty, who was surely listening to this and who is celebrating the song you just chose, has probably showed me it before. They have overall harder songs. Yeah. But I picked the most obvious, like, okay, that's a breakdown. They put a breakdown in this song.

Got you. Listen, I'll admit this on our biggest platform together. Primus was on in your car the other day. I didn't hate it. Yeah. I've come around to tool Lately I've been going through

a tool awakening Tool has simply billions of tracks It's crazy Unbelievable They're unbelievable Dude dude it's crazy When you and I were driving from Vegas

Did we not talk about tool or something Something came up and I was like man Tool is all about this drive right now Yeah The drive from those valleys To your valley is like This is tool country They saw this and they were like

I got an idea I got a career They were like Look at that schism over there. Wait. They're incredible. Holy shit. That was funny. My next one, it's my

favorite girl. Song by Bjork. Birki? Birki called Army of me. There's a video of her playing it with a metal band playing the music and it's like, and it's like, and it's all about, like, the song is all about like stop being a fucking baby and take care

of yourself. And if you keep complaining, you're going to meet an army of me. That's the whole It's like, I'm going to beat your ass. Which he did. That's true. That reporter. It's true. It's just a cool song.

If you, it's also mastered really crazy where it kind of blows out your speakers. It's like purposefully heavy. Brickwalled in a wild way. Very much so. I love. The next song is like quiet. The next song is very chill. So it's, it's very intentional.

And it like her vocals really like front and center like way louder than the other tracks. It's just like a really well put together song. It's on the record post. It's the first track. And it's fucking awesome. And it clicked one time. Funny anecdote. We toured with straight from the path.

And when Dan, who drummed at the time, would sound check their sample pad. It was that song, just instrumentally. And you would play it. And then you would drum along to it. And it was like, for some reason, it took that to make me go, oh, this song is like heavy.

Song kind of fucking. goes. Interesting. That was it. Fun. I'm excited to listen. My next pick. I think you would like Bjork. I really do. I think I would. A band called Torch. Yeah.

Also not, wouldn't overall call them a soft band. Yes. Very similar to Kohide. The thing they're known for is the kind of more like kind of more melodic, tasty lick type riffs.

Kind of Massadon. Kind of Macedon, but like a little on the more melodic side. Just of like, it sounds jovial almost, you know? Yeah. There's a jubilation that occurs during a torch song. Whereas this one, Tar Pit Carnivore from the album in return, I think is the heaviest a guitar has ever been tuned. I believe Torch used what they call the Z note.

Yes. Right? That's this one. Da-na-da-da-da-ga-ha-ha-ha-h-ha-chong-dun. So for those of you listening, there's a tuning that people call the neurosis tuning, which I think is Open A. If I'm, I could be wrong. It's the Macedon song, High Road, if you want to listen to that, that's the neurosis tuning. Every time I die, I use it on low teens as well.

And neurosis obviously used it. is lower than that where they the lowest string, they don't even tune to a note. No. It's floppy. And then the remaining five are in standard or whatever they're tuning. So it goes,

eh, con, go, go, condisishable note that is so low that you just hear the heaviest palm mute you've ever heard. Really good pick. That's a really, I really like that pick because that's such a unique thing. And when they do it, there's another

song where it goes down now now now gow now go bow gow gow gow when they do it it fucking actually shocks you something brown recluse it that's the name of that isn't it march of the brown recluse it might be something like that i just remember that but banged dude great pick they got tracks man they got tracks for sure lord do they got tracks all right this one's a little this one's a little funny johnny cash who's got who's he's got some tracks a hard motherfucker whether it's about god or gunning down your lady. Yeah. But I picked the most accessible one

because of how pissed he is in the live versions of it is just boy named Sue. How do you do? The story obviously is actually quite pleasant. It's like a nice fable. But the fact that he's like, I'm the son of a bitch that you named Sue is like he's been going around his whole life

trying to find his dad just to kill him. It's like Star Wars or something. It's fucking awesome. Yeah. And there's like the main, live required. I don't think it's San Quentin and something else, but it's just like such a great, like the energy is awesome. And dude, I don't know if you ever notice, he would, he would do a thing where he would just kind of start singing in the, in the middle of a measure. And then

his band would like, find the one. Yeah. I'm going down on town. I'm going down on train. And I'm going down to the store. And then they go to do do do do. It's crazy. Yeah, it's incredible. That's obviously just some of the best music, period. ever. Yeah, Johnny Cash is a goat for sure. My next pick is a band called Faith No More. Fuck. I didn't even think of them. You know, obviously I'm pulling some technicalities here. But this song in particular is such a shocking departure from the rest of this record.

Can I guess? Yeah. Did we just talk about it? Is it smaller and smaller? No. Crush you. Okay. Moller and smaller.

No. The song is called Jizz-lobber from the album, Angel Dust. and it's an actual just like insane metal song. How does it go? I know every song. I don't know the name. Did you do to gan on an edge to do to do get on a way to do. Oh yeah, dude.

Crazy song. And then it has that big hard ending just like a. Yeah. Just an actively, completely thoroughly hard song. And what's cool is there's that making of, of that record where they're all talking. And like, somebody says, is it the guitar player? I'm really excited for Slayer's new record. But so it's cool that there's like this parallel.

Like they're like, what's Slayer doing? Well, dude, Jim, I mean, there's the other thing of Mike Patton being like, if you don't like Slayer, I don't trust you. Where he's eating the sandwich? Yeah. But Jim Martin only ever wanted to be Slayer. Yeah. And that's why he quit.

the band. Right. Well. Yeah. And and maybe a homophobic guy, but homophobic pumpkin farmer. In that same fucking documentary, Patton is like, we don't even really use guitars anymore. We don't need them. And that was his problem. And it's such an

interesting way to think about their band. It is and it sucks. Yes. And it like that's the other record, the rest of the discography is not as good because he's not part of it. You know, I love King for a Day. I like album of the year. They are so much worse because he's not there.

I think that's fair. If your keyboard player is like a gay icon and your guitar player is a homophobe, you're going to have to do something about it. And you're playing, be aggressive. Yeah, it's talking about swallowing loads. The song is so good. And then lobbing them. Yeah.

Okay, this one, it's Iggy and the Stooges. So, like, they're considered like one of the godfathers of blah, blah, blah, blah. but you wouldn't consider them like breakdown. No, I wouldn't say that's hard music by any means. I don't think all punk music is hard music. Correct. Whereas like I didn't put a single rap song on here because rap music is inherently hard. Wow.

I love that. Well said. That was really good. Nothing soft about it. Yeah. So like the Ramones are not a hard band. You know, but they're definitely that kind of punk band.

Search and Destroy by the Sugees. with a hat full of knee pound. A great fucking, like, full-on rock song. And then there's other Iggy songs, like, Be Your Dog is, like, kind of heavy. It just, just in itself, like, the riff is kind of heavy. I had no idea what he's talking about. But.

Guy wants to be a dog or something. Yeah, something. But with Search and Destroy, it's, like, so, there's all kind of metaphors about Vietnam and all this stuff, and it's very, like, of the time. And it's just a cool song. is like kind of the start of what American Heavy would be. And so I think that that's like a cool aspect.

Yeah, that's good. Good pick. My next pick, somebody recently asked me, what are top five songs you listen to to get fired up? And before I had a single answer by a hardcore metal punk rock band, I said the Hans Zimmer, live in Prague version of the Gladiator medley.

brother. I listen to it with you. It's amazing. It's unbelievable. It's amazing. The way that it builds and crescendos and falls out and then like and finally culminates in within those 12 minutes and 41 seconds is truly an epic journey within itself. I could see exactly what you're saying. And yeah, let's see.

Is that that's a hard part by like the softest shit that exists? Yeah. But here's the thing. And I'll talk about this more in a second. classical music is the OG hard shit it was the metal of its day 100%

like what dudes like like Beethoven and Vivaldi they were busting out like illegal notes sometimes and people would be like oh my God this is so cacophonous and dangerous sounding

you can't play those notes I've always wondered would you go and see Beethoven like could the aristocrats go and see him conduct. I think it would be more a thing like Beethoven's coming this evening to play for us. You know? Wow.

I just want to know if anybody ever sat there and watched him go, and like, it's a good point. I mean, yeah, he would need a full orchestra. Yeah. Did he like double all the horns and shit? Like he did crazy shit.

I feel like all that happened after he died. Uh-huh. Like he's just playing him on piano and then people, like you seen that video of, Anthony Hopkins hearing his sonata that he wrote for the first time? No. He wrote a piece of music when he was young that he never recorded or got to hear. And then like five or ten years ago, an orchestra played it for him.

Just like mathed it out, conducted it with a full orchestra, and he heard it for the first time. And he's just like in awe the whole time. Whoa. I don't know if Beethoven got that. But also I wasn't there, so I don't know. He couldn't hear it by the end anyway. No, exactly. Post-deaf acoustic sessions.

My next one is the softest song. Oh, fuck. I feel like you're going to veto this one. But I think it's hard. Yeah, you might get me. And I don't care because it's all relative. You know what I mean? It's a Cindy Lopper song.

It's called Time After Time. I think There's nothing hard about this You sick fuck Untrue I think telling someone No matter what If you're lost

You're gonna find I think that that See This is probably one of the world Like when we first Decided to do this This is probably one of my first entries I was like oh that's great

You're like time for time It's fucking hard It's It's all lyrical obviously, musically, it's like as soft as it gets. Yeah,

the Paulian Dynamite soundtrack might as well have been the Saw Six soundtrack. You know? It's the same thing. You're out of your fucking mind for that one. My next pick.

Softest one. Yep. My next pick. I mean, this is no more sane, realistically. Okay. Little band called

and hear me out my chemical romance. Yeah, same. From the album, the Black Parade, this is the song that made me go,

I think they might be sick. I think they might rock. And I've never changed that opinion since. I think they're sick and that they rock. This song sounds like, it starts kind of circusy. Oh. But in like a ghost second album type way. You know?

It's very, no, it's very like, do, and g-k-a-d-d-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-you-know. Okay, okay, waltzy. Got you. Very waltzy. And then like a straight-up, aggressive, very catchy chorus into another actual purposeful mosh part in the

middle. Okay. It's definitely like this man toured with American nightmare. They know what they're doing. Yep. This is a breakdown. A very hard one. And it's rocking, dude. Listen. I I like a lot of hokey music. A lot of the hardcore I like has like speeches about

fucking Krishna and straight edge and whatever. Yeah. Okay. That's all, I'm not into that. and it might make me in the right context go, I don't think I'm really like that band. So I'm just being fair. There is a video I saw not too long ago of them playing at the fireside before they were big, obviously, where off Mike, Gerard is like talking to the band. He's like, all right, boys, everybody plays, nobody gets hurt.

We're going to level this fucking town. And like he's talking to everyone in the band. But before like, one, two, three, four. I really can't get behind it. Like, I think that one video just, like, tarnished it for me. I've got that for tons of bands. Yes. Okay.

I've got a thing where I hear it and I go, I don't think this, I don't think this will ever be for me. But how old was he at this time? Old enough. Old enough. But probably like 22, right? Yeah, I don't think you would have done that one. I don't think I would have done that at 22. And I don't think you would have done that.

he wasn't, I can't, listen, I don't know this man. Yeah, man. I just know this song is hard. And what can I say? They killed it eventually. They did good. What am I saying? They did all right.

But yeah, it's just not, I missed the whole thing. So it's just, I don't think that's a band all ever. I did too. That's the thing. Yeah, when did this? Oh, right. I completely missed it. It was like, I think everything was out by the time I heard this.

This was definitely a thing where in high school I was like, it's fucking sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. like them. Everybody likes him fucking sucks. And then you grow up and you realize that most things rock.

I'm going to listen to it. I look forward to it. Maybe I'll change. It's a great one. Next one. It's by a gal named Pat Benatar. It's called Love is a Battlefield. It's a hard song.

It's a hard song. I get. The whole time. Boom. Bum, bum, bum, bum. And like, we are, like, the way she sings. The performance of it is like awesome. She kills it.

Yeah. She hits the notes. And it's all about like, yeah, I love fucking sucks. I can hear every single one of them lyrics in the youth of today voice. You know? We are strong. Houting to hearty. We stand.

It kind of works. Start. Love was a bomb. Yeah. Obviously, this is a very. It's as soft as it gets. Yeah, it's as soft as it gets. This is pure, actually, this isn't as purely lyrical as like Cindy Lopper.

But it's, like, because the music kind of, if that music was like kind of re-recorded and like kind of done differently, I think it could be, it could be heavier, you know. Yeah, anything could be heavier. This is like the most 80s pop song of all 80s pop song. Yeah. Fuck yeah. It's a good song. It's a great song. I swam behind her house one time.

in La Jolla. I would say for women experiencing heartache, this is probably the hardest song of all the time. So I'm not going to tell you, you're crazy. But I know. I don't, I mean, this song's incredible. It's one of the greats. Songs unbelievable.

My next pick. I heard this song in an episode of a show called Moral Oral when I was very young. I was asleep. when it hit and it sounded so insane that I woke up out of a deep sleep and had to Google it immediately. It's a straight up like regular ass folk song

with the most hateful lyrics the song is by a band called The Mountain Goats. The song is called No Children. I hope you die. Don't we both die. Unfamiliar. Unless hum it for me. The chorus starts with him saying,

I hope you die. I hope we both die. It's all about like how shitty his relationship is with his wife, it sounds like. Okay. And basically how like, it's never going to work.

Quit trying to make it work. I hope all our friends trying to make it work, kill themselves. I hope everything goes to shit. I hope you die. I hope we both die. It's gnarly, dude. It's incredible.

Holy shit. It's so hateful. And it was on... So hateful. It was on... It was like an adult swim cartoon. Okay. And it was the credits, the end credits for one episode of moral oral.

And I couldn't fucking believe what I was hearing. Yeah. That's... We're saying the same shit, just different lenses. 100%. Okay. All right. Good.

Good. Because that's pure or lyrical, right? Like, you said it's fulky. So, okay. It's like one guitar and piano. That's it. And him going, I hope you die. I hope we both die.

Narlie. Whoa. Fucking kicks ass. This one is a bit of a stretch in that I think they might be too heavy. Oh. So, but they, they, they, Alison Chains occupies. 100%. Right.

They're in the middle. Here's the thing, dude. You ask a strange, a person on the street, you like Allison Chains. James, they go, dude, Rooster kicks ass. Yeah. Yeah. They go down on the hole, that's a banger, man. Yeah.

Okay, good. They don't know the song's worth saying. Right. My, my pick for a hard song by a quote unquote soft, you know, soft band in this case is Rooster. Because. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is Rooster. Just because, like, I, down in the whole, it's funny, you picked the two.

down on the whole was like kind of the other pick because it's so fucking those are your picks They're not my favorite songs. They have hard songs. They're not my favorite songs or anything but I think the concept of like you're not going to kill my fucking dad

is like very hard. Sure. Like the whole story for anyone who doesn't know is people in Vietnam got nicknames his nickname was Rooster. His dad's nickname was Rooster and it's a song written from the point of view of his dad in Vietnam

And like his buddies are dying and getting spit out when he goes home and all this stuff. And it's just like, he ain't going to die. Like you come to kill him. It's not going to happen. I think that's hard as shit. You're not wrong. Yeah, they can have harder songs. I'm not saying that.

I'll just tell you. I'll get my pick out of the way. Okay. A little song from the self-titled called Sludge Factory. Oh, that song's amazing. That's a hard fucking song. The verse of the song is Jen, Jen, Jen. John

You insult me in my own Even the fuck It's so heavy and hard That even the unplug version is hard It is It really is They're going Crong kung kung

On five acoustic guitars And it sounds fucking massive And people lose their minds You can hear the comments When that one hits it the The crowd was roaring like a lion I drove by Rock and Roll McDonald's last night

Sad because it's not rock and roll anymore Airport McDonald's Man in the Box Might be The heaviest What's the heaviest most popular song Is like Enter Sandman

You know like that That kind of thing I do it I mean slip not putting blast beats on the radio Was pretty unbelievable Pretty crazy I mean even cycle social It's like a crazy heavy song

Hard fucking song Hard fucking song. Man in the box at the time may have had the crown. I'll tell you what, though. Damn that river was also on the radio, and that's a harder song. It is a harder song. That was on the radio? Oh, I don't remember.

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Hello? So do that right now. You want to see me acting a fool to youth today? Because I've never gotten to see them in a real venue before. Back to the episode. I'm going to do one then to kind of bring it up to today. And give some flowers to a current band, friends of ours, who are not a hard band, but it's a very hard song.

And it's by Citizen. Oh. Off of youth called The Night I Drove Alone. All about fucking wanting to crash your car. We've all been there. We've all been there. And it is truly a very relatable thing. It was obviously people loved it when it came out,

still love it because it was like the track. Yeah. that record, I'm a big fan of that record. I think that song is like a standout part of that song. And it's just fucking about one of the most relatable things that I think every human goes through. If you ain't ever felt that, we got nothing in common. That's the damn truth. And also the singer is a hard-ass guy.

And that helps. Straight up. My next pick by a composer named Dvorajal. I had to really think about my big classical pick. because there's so many things. Swan Lake was an honorable mention. Sure. Because da,

gang, gang, can, can, can, hard fucking riff. But I picked Symphony number nine in E minor,

which is Dan, dan, dan, dan, dan, dan, dan,

dun dun dun dun dun. Yeah, very elder scrolls, very like, it's, it is imposing, it's ominous. It's a sign of something terrible

coming your way. It sounds like a battle is occurring. And that's what a lot of classical music was. Think about like Wagner, dude. Yeah, I was going to say, I have a big ass vinyl collection of Wagner stuff. And that's like all scary music.

Yeah, truly. By like what seems like kind of a bad guy. I don't think he was a bad guy, but he got heavily used by really the word. people. It was in his whole disgod was appropriated by the. Yeah. By the Reich.

Right. Yeah. I believe so. Question. If Hitler made this playlist. Don't say that. It would be all Wagner. Jesus Christ.

So I didn't put Wagner for that reason. Speaking. Never mind. Hey, the song in Fantasia when the devil comes out. Da, da, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. What, is that just Fantasia or is that something?

Fantasia is all famous classical pieces, yeah. Do you, do you have any idea who does the, the devil song? Because that's a heavy, fucking, that could be like Chikovsky or something. When he just. It's hard, dude. It's hard. And you're, classical music is fucking hard. Yeah, you're very right in that it is like, what else was there at the time?

I don't know that much about music like, like folk shit, I guess, right? Yeah, I mean, I think it was like fucking. Antfire ballads. You know? Like, bards were playing. Yeah. There once was a sea.

Yes. That was big to me. I love that one. I love, I fucking love that one. But our classical was like imposing and powerful and big. It's really cool. Look, there's a reason that Metallica did two orchestra. That was literally a factor in my pick.

Yeah. It was just like, that's all they, those songs are just, all them big instrumentals. and the big pits or they're just doing classical. Master of Puppets has so much classical shit on the whole thing. It's actually really crazy and cool and fun. The best band ever. This one is for my mom and for Bruce LaPage, if he's listening. It's by The Who, who are definitely not like the softest band ever because similar to the

stoo just like they have. No, but nobody's calling the Who a hard band. Perfect. Well, perfectly said. The song is, behind blue eyes. Because there's a part where it's like, yo, when I lose my mind and like clench my fan,

I'm about to fuck somebody up, I need you to chill me out. Because you don't know what it feels like to be the bad guy all the time. And everybody's blaming me. And musically, when it like opens up, and it's like, it's like a cool, cool riff.

And then there's an awesome harmony that you can barely hear on the record, but Townsend does it live, where he sings with Rob, and it's like this cool minor chord and it's just like a very very cool part and I think that that's that's that's a hard part within a soft song by a kind of soft band that's also kind of a hard band. I'm excited to check it out and the official hard songs by soft songs playlist, which can be heard in the description below. My next pick, little band from Ireland from the album to the

faithful to behearted. The song is called Hollywood. And the reason I picked Hollywood is it has one of the most gratuitous, recorded uses of the China symbol ever done. Oh shit. By any band ever.

More so than fucking just like heaven. More so than, because that one's just going to do, but then it's also but this one in every chorus it ends with a whole bar of and she goes run away run away yeah run away and all those hits are china and I remember the first

time I heard that as a little kid I was thinking like yo that's the same symbol from from satisfaction you know like cranberries are using the same drums as hayprey that's crazy I didn't know what was allowed that's really cool that's a cool little kid kind of yeah as an idiot this is hard this is hard music. And my opinion is not changed. As an idiot, I still feel the same. I did a cranberry song because I think they are kind of, I think if you ask most people like our peers, who is a soft band that has heavy songs? I think cranberries would be a pretty common answer, actually. I just think they're up there with like the Smiths and Depeche Mode as just like a band we all fucking like. And the song Salvation.

Salvation, so it's like a It's like a fast song Yeah Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And it's like It's like very To all the kids with heroin eyes Don't do it

Don't do it And it's I die what it been Kind of Bang Kind of an edge song It's an anti-drug song Like it is quite literally like Hey don't do that

You're gonna die I mean during during this this fentanyl crisis that we're currently in. What's more actively prudent? Salvation, baby. Banger. Amazing. Your best pick yet,

well. Fuck off, dude. That's a banger, dude. Fantastic work. My next pick. Oh, my God. This might be the hardest song on here. Damn, dude. Imagine the love of your life you got the impression

that she's got it for somebody else but you know deep down in your heart I'll start crying okay you're the only one Melissa Etheridge felt the same way Beau and I'm the only one

and girls that buy it for you to win a whine a whine up it's all the fear that it made you The demons that you're hiding from. This is the hardest song of all time. She's, that's top of, she's screaming. It is the highest note anyone's ever hit. When I do the fake sound,

I'm not even hitting her register. Dude. This is the greatest song of all time. I used to come home for dinner from like playing outside or skateboarding or whatever. My mom would be cleaning the house. Blasting. Just weeping into the dishes. Come to my window.

Oh my God. I mean, that's the other mega bang. But the one you chose is, yeah, it's me, bitch. I'm the only one. And I like that, um, you know, this is a fucking, like, gay anthem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. It feels so universal and, and powerful.

Was she the only, or was she the only one? Was she gay? Is she gay? I don't know if she's alive or not. She is gay. Okay. Oh, yeah. Truly didn't know. I just didn't know if, like, how, you know, how like Gaga is like a champion. You know what I mean? So I didn't know if Melissa Etheridge was the same or not. I truly didn't know. Hardest song ever. Hard fucking song. Hard fucking song. What do I got here? Dude, this is an unequivocal heavy song. And as you know, one of my favorite songs. obvious pick by Creedance

Clearwater Revival. It's an obvious pick, kind of a cliche, but fortunate son is a fucking heavy hard song. And the fact that the people that it's about have appropriated it

as their own is you're the dumbest person alive. To hear this and not see that they're talking about you. They're talking about you, bro. It ain't me, motherfucker. I ain't you. And then they go, I must be about me.

Must be me he's talking about. Dude, but just everything from like the Man, where the flag. Ooh, they're red, white, and blue. Dude, it's there, it is psychotic note choices. Yeah. But there was no other way. John had to do it.

It's crazy, dude. This is one of the greatest songs ever written. Ever, truly ever written. Ever written. One of the best rock songs ever written. One of the best American pieces of music ever written. And it's like two minutes. It's fucking awesome.

It gets me going. I don't understand. Think about sitting down with a guitar. You would never think to just go, bong-a-o-mm-and-have-a-dum-and-have-drum. And the bass. Under that as well. This was like a once-in-a-lifetime lightning and a bottle.

can't happen without a bunch of guys in a room just rocking type song. I fully acknowledge that it's like the cliche, everyone knows that song by them, but there's kind of a reason. And that's that's why. It's a fucking banger. Amazing.

Great pick. That's hard. My next pick, band called Collective Soul. Album called Doseage. The song is called Heavy. Oh. This is,

I've put this on with you a couple of times, I think. And you've been like, I've never heard this. And then you hear it and you go, yeah, this rocks. This is the chorus is, And all you wait, it falls on me,

it brings me down. But the song starts with a riff that straight up sounds like, like Kirk wrote it. It goes, Canada, Ghana, Nana, and under different contexts,

that's down. That's down. Yeah, that Down's next big single. In this context, it's this like, they're just straight up 90s, Alt Rock.

And this is God tier 90s alt rock in a way where I'm fired up the whole fucking time.

This is a perfect track. I don't know if I'm familiar with that song. Fubba Bannan a

da da da da da da da I'm gonna have I listen I'm

gonna know and the fucking banger banger a half dude

I'm excited I look forward to to learning. Let's see. Oh, you're gonna like this one. Dude. From the record,

Jagged Little Pill. Alanus Morris said. Yeah, dude. Fucking you gotta know. Dude, this whole record. You gotta know. You gotta know. You gotta know.

You ought to know. The whole record's amazing. I think if I'm not mistaken, the studio drummer for this record was, is somebody Korah Jason. I forget where I heard that. I tried to even look it up and I couldn't figure it out.

But there's something cool about who drummed on it. The whole fucking, I need you to now. It's basically, it's like the hateful version of I'm the only one. Dude. Ironically, probably the CD that my mom would put on after Melissa Atheridge was Atlantis

and then was like nine inch nails. That was the rotation. Dude, I mean, this shaped, this rightfully shaped a decade of women into being like, no, I'm not going to fucking take your shit anymore.

God damn it. Did you forget about me? Oh my God. You're just singing that just now. That was Life of Agony or something. Yeah. Did you forget about me? In other contexts, this is the hardest shit ever.

Yeah, singing about what they're doing in the theater, thinking about thinking of me while you make sweet, passionate love. And it being about Uncle. Uncle Joey. It's all about fucking Uncle Joey. God, what a reveal that was all that time later. Really crazy. Unbelievable.

That's another record that's like pretty untouchable. Yeah, that's one of the greats ever. That's Match for Killer. Period. Wow. Well said. All right. I'm going to need you to sit tight for this next pick of mine, all right? Strap in.

So I'm going to do a demonstration of sorts. Okay. To why this song is hard. Okay. Song is by Stephanie Joanne Germanada. You may know her better as Lady Gaga. This song is called, Guy G-U-Y.

Oh, it's on Art Pop. Dude, think about that the riff under the entire song for a second. Yeah, yeah. In the verse, it's da-g-g-g-g-g-d-g-da-da-da-da-a-g-g-a-g-d- And then after the chorus, she hits it

where it's just full-on So I'm going to demonstrate to you right now how hard this fucking riff is. It's kind of Bjorky. very army of me. The reason I liked it when I first heard art pop was because it reminded me of Bjork. Interesting. That song specifically. How does the chorus go on that song? I know it's guy under you or girl under you. G. U. Y. There's like German in there. I know you love that. That record is what made me like an actual Lady Gaga.

It's unbelievable, dude. And the people didn't get it. And I think if you didn't get it, you don't deserve to get the rest. Amazing record. Great choice. Hard. And also the pun of GUI is just like fun. Girl under you, guy.

I want to be your guy. Yeah. I don't care what it is. That's amazing. This one is possibly the softest sounding song with some of the hardest lyrics. This song is. Iris by the Google Dells. Now.

That's the greatest song. Other than I'm the only one by Melissa Etheridge, that's the greatest song of all time. It's quite literally the greatest song ever. It's in Open Drop B, which is crazy. And it's, you know, fucking, I'm trying to think of the lyrics. I don't want the world to see me because I don't think that they would understand. But bleed just to know you're alive. When everything feels like the movies, you know,

you bleed just to know you're alive. Oh my God. It's like that song had no business being that, like, lyrically that heavy. You already had that chorus. Yeah, the chorus is perfect. What are you doing taking the rest of it? Give that. Let me have that, you know?

Metal Blade Records, baby. Dude. Unreal, dude. I truly think that that's possible. That's in realistically, like top 50 songs of all time. Yeah. I think Iris is easily in there. When that comes, like, that's a song that to this day, it'll, it just, it comes on the radio probably every day. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Right next to glycerine, which is, God, that's another hard-ass fucking song. Which is a four-cord song also. Very interesting. Bangor. Yeah, love it. Love, dude, Bush. Team Gavin.

Yeah. No, I'm team. I'm team, Glenn. I'm team, Glenn. Just get it. I'm going to. I'm just kidding. My next pick, you know, she's, she's, she's.

She's the opposite of Lady Gaga in a lot of ways. She was formerly a Christian singer, turned a Warped Tour opening act, turned one of the highest charting albums of all time. Tying, right? Yeah, tying with Michael Jackson Bad. Her name is Katie Perry. The album is called One of the Boys.

The song is called Manikin. Deep cut, dude. Yeah. Let me tell you. you're going to put this on, you're going to be like, what is this? It's straight up like

5150, gain cranked. It's not, I'm not doing a Gaga comparison to show you how hard the riff is. It speaks for itself. The chorus is literally a guitar

being like, ding, digat it, got it, got it, it got it, it gag, it sounds like

she was trying to do like paramour but hard. Okay, understood. It sounds like way more distorted, high gain. Paramour.

Whoa. It's hard, dude. Katie Perry, that first record with I Kiss the Girl on it and then the big record. So that's this one, one of the boys. Oh, okay. Great. That record and then the big record are untouchable. Yeah, I don't know what happened after that.

Yeah, it's a bummer. These two are really good. This song, when I got to it the first time, I was telling people like, you got to hear this. Really? This is hard. Yeah. Was that like when it came out? Yeah.

Wow. Which I think was, what, 2008? Had to be. Yeah, that sounds right. So I was still at high school, but I was like in my last FM scrobling era, you know, researching new hardcore bands every day,

come across this and I go, this is a hard fucking song. And I maintain that opinion to this day. To this day. Oh, you're going to like this. Fleetwood Mac, who have a few songs that you could choose.

Yeah. I mean, a lot of rumors is hateful. Silver Spring. Okay. The ending of you'll never escape the sound of a woman who loves you. And the way that they perform it

and like they're being theatrical, they're playing it up, you know, but the way that they perform it specifically live where she's staring right the fuck at him. You'll never escape me. You're never going to do it. Lindsay. Lindsay, you'll never.

It is fucking, dude. Yeah. She's awesome. Stevie is fucking incredible. That's another like top 20, 30 recording. artists in history probably.

Stevie. Fleetwood Mac. Oh, Fleetwood Mac. Dude, the fact, there is a VH1 classics album series where they do rumors.

And it's hard to find. It's like not, everything else is on YouTube, but that one's not. It seems like it got like taken down by them or whatever. The fact that she went, they only had

the bass part for the chain and she was just like, I'll figure something out and went and wrote it. She just went alone with her little, that's crazy. Her little, like, stringed harpsichord thing, you know?

I don't know what those are called. Because that bass part is not in the song other than it when it happens and is the rest of the song. Yeah, it's just like the... It's just the bridge. It's truly just a bridge. The guitar never even plays the bass part. Yeah, just...

Which is... I mean, that's a contender for best bridge ever. It truly is, yeah. But the fact that they were just like, okay, let's rush. I'm going to go. write a song and then we'll just play that part. Yeah, and it'll build into the

thing. And I think they had the melody for Chang. Keep us together. That's crazy. Unbelievable. Interesting. Great song. But yeah, Silver Spring I think is like the softest of a soft band with a fucking heavy part. Lyrically, obviously.

Yeah. Big time. Big time. My next pick, band called Oasis. Excellent. Had to have some Brit pop representation in here Just because the whole The whole spirit of Brit pop is Yeah

No, no, fix it Fucking wank Fuck off Album was called Be Here Now The song is called I hope I think I know The whole song is just kind of fuck you

Don't tell me what to do You know You're telling me what to do But you're gonna miss me when I'm gone You know You're trying to change me I'm gonna be me Life is hit or miss and this I hope I think I know

Oh kind of the ethos of the whole band Of the whole band This is I mean this is my favorite record that they did Which right To for a long time was sacrilegious to a lot of people But enough people like me are out here Fighting the good fight not giving a shit I can tell you that pound for pound

This is the best one You hope you think you know I hope I think I know that this is the best damn record Supergroup Kind of in the 90s Called Temple of the Dog Oh hell yeah dude Hunger Strike is a cool fucking song

With a heavy theme That's like I will steal From all the rich people Because there's all this fucked up shit going on We all got to eat I'm gonna go on a hunger strike So we can all eat And it being kind of a folk song

Like it's kind of weird And like because like sonically There's nothing like heavy about You know Bob Dylan Yeah At least early on in like the folk shit but thematically in lyric. Yeah, I mean, it's all protest music's hard as fuck, you know.

Exactly. And that's what this song, I think, is supposed to be and like kind of what it is. And also it's just like one of the greatest vocal performances of anyone ever. And it's also just like painful proof that people used to stand for something, you know? Yeah. The people on the radio used to stand for something. Hmm. And what I like a lot, too, is there's a lot of videos of Chris Cornell.

where like Pearl Jam is playing and they like bring out Chris Cornell and play this song because they're still like, yeah, this, this, the record's got a couple of tracks, but this is like obviously the hit and this song still fucking goes. And Chris Cornell could still fucking hit it. I mean, that was my guy till the end, dude. Yeah. Were you a big Soundgarden guy? I'm a big Soundgarden guy.

I think I'm an even bigger Chris Cornell guy. Gotcha. Understood. But not Audio Slave, right? I think audio slave's got some tracks. You ever hear the song from the Casino Royale? soundtrack? Probably not. Oh, it's the Casino Royale song.

It's they like made the Bond song. Um yourself because no one else here will save you. It's, that's one of my favorite songs of all time. Okay. It's, it's just like a rock and ass song that like is subtly about James Bond, just being like, um, hey, they'll, you know, they'll kill you and I'll replace you. Whoa. And that's the fucked up world we live in.

Right. Okay. Cool. That's kind of a meta song. It is, dude. It's amazing. Yeah, that's cool. I like that. Cornell. RIP. King. RIP, dude. Down with the MGM, Detroit. We got to burn it down, dude. Don't go there. Tie down's coming up. Don't go. I ain't going there from a boy, Chris.

My second to last pick. I would technically call them a hardcore man. Their discography kind of says otherwise to the layman. But into another. On the album, Ignores, this is the song made me a fan and made me understand. Oh, which one? What they were doing?

A song is called ungodly. How does it go? Dan and to get a now. No, no, no way. And I do it. That's a crazy hard fucking riff, dude. That's where you get it. That's where you go, oh, that's, I see what they're doing now.

And then kind of everything else started to make sense for me. For me, it was the second song. Da-Dun-Dun-Dun-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-d- I was immediately like. immediately like, oh, there's like energy in this. It's not just like pretty stuff. Like there's, there's, because down down, down, down, down, down, down, down. Dude, yeah.

That record has a ton of heavy parts and, and lyrically, thematically, very heavy. 100%. The first song is fucking, it's a hard record. It's like a thoroughly hard record that you, an unintelligent, close-minded person would never know. A fool.

But hopefully that changes today. Yeah. Listen to and to another. That's one of my favorite brands ever. The second and last for me, right? Yeah. Tears for fears. Off of songs from the big chair.

Mad world. It's obviously it's purely lyrical. Obviously. Yeah. The fucking, it's all about the world going to shit. And about feeling like you can't do anything about it. Very cool. Very heavy.

very, it's kind of enjoy the silence, or no, I'm sorry, the sound of silence. The sound of garfocal song. It's kind of a heavy song, but it's like the least heavy music ever. Right. Although I disturbed cover it.

But I just, I get, I remember listening to it as a kid because I watched Donnie Darko and I was like, oh, who does this song, figuring out who the band is. And that song being like, man, this is like affecting me. And that to me is heavy.

Especially for a kid. Sure. I didn't give a shit. Mad World. I mean, undeniable banger. And if I could, I would take every single one of them lyrics,

note for note, and be like, yeah, I wrote these for this hardcore song. Yeah. So that's tough to argue. My last pick. All right.

So it's a Halsey song. Whoa. Is it one of the Trent Resner songs? So there's a song, a record called, If I can't have love, I want power. Produced by Trent Resner and Atticus Ross from Nine Inch Nails.

And their whole thing going into it was she, she like asked different producers to work on the album. And they were one of the potential suitors. And they said, listen, we'll do it. But like, you have to take a risk and do something you've never done. And when you listen to the record, you can very clearly tell, they kept their vocals and deleted the music. And you can hear from the first note.

First note of the album, they hit the... They do like a... The... The Antaticus chord progression. Gotcha. And this song called Honey... Just straight up, big drums, twanging riffs. Yeah.

Very catchy lyrics and stuff. I don't know what she's talking. She's talking about some girls like Honey or something. but the song is hard, dude. This is the song. I don't know another record of hers. Couldn't tell you. Yeah, I remember you bringing this one in particular up to me and me being very surprised.

It's amazing. The whole album is amazing. It seems like two things you don't really fuck with put together. Kind of. Kind of. But like done in a way that somehow works. And I feel like even when you're listening to it, you'll be like, why does this work? Because it does sound like two guys who deleted music and rewrote things under vocals.

But in a way that like only fucking rocks. I love, I genuinely love the entire record. Wow. It's incredible. And it sounds like them with her singing. With her singing. And she can sing. Oh, she can absolutely sing.

She's got pipes for sure. Yeah. Okay. That's your number one. I didn't, I didn't do it. We didn't do it in order. numerical this time around. But that is,

that's, that's the one I wanted to save for last. Perfect. That's exactly what I did. So that's perfect. My last one, which is another band that's like, not exactly soft,

but you wouldn't call like heavy. It's Led Zeppelin. It's a later Led Zeppelin record. It's called Kashmir. You would know it from Godzilla 2000. P. Did he. Sure would. Sampled it.

Jimmy Page is in the music video. That's fucking crazy. The song is really cool. It's in an open D tuning. it's heavy the whole fucking time. The whole song is it's like perfect bottom. It's got cool timing shit.

It's got great effects. It's like eight minutes long. That riff is so undeniable that it made a bunch of hip hop producers somewhere all make the face. They all heard it. They all heard and went, my cries,

see my call, let me your end. And then they took it. They were like, we're just taking it. in this. Whatever we have to pay, it's got to be in Godzilla. I wonder how much they paid him to get him in the music video. He's not actually in it. It's like a green screen of him, but he's performing for the video. I mean, a lot. It had to have been seven figures, 100%. A real music nerdy thing. I don't know if I've mentioned it before. There's a, it's going to be loud. It's like a thing with Jack White, the Edge and Jimmy Page, when they're talking about just guitar shit. And while I don't really care about the or Jack White's music that much,

I appreciate what they have to say about guitar. Yeah, yeah. You two? You two's got fucking tracks. No argument. White Stripes got zeros. But I enjoy the conversation that they have. Jimmy Page is talking about it and he's playing,

he's showing them the main riff, the la-la-na-da-da-la-la-la-na, which is kind of a weird timing signature. Yeah. And then as the other two are playing the main riff over and over, Jimmy starts doing the la na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na da da da da da da da and he does it twice and on the second time he goes

la na na na la la and it matches up with what the edge and jack wide are playing even though while he's doing it it sounds super off then it just goes poohp and just lines right back up and you see a moment in jack white's face where he kind of looks at jimmy and jimmy looks at and he goes eh like yeah yeah it matches up it's just fucking cool it's just like yeah i'm a genius

i'm a wizard i'm one of the best guys at this. Huge fan. Love Led Zeppelin, but that that song, which again, like some, like the CCR song

is maybe kind of a cliche answer, but who cares? That's a hard fucking song. It's a hard song. That riff is, that's trap in our ice riff. And then also do the da-na-na-da-da-dun-dun-dun.

Dun-dun-well. That's a God's-A-Riff. I love it. Coming soon. Yeah, Those are our lists. That was a blast. Yeah, that was a blast.

And I think that's exactly what anyone should have expected. Yeah, it's silly, but this shit is hard. And there's hard, there's hardness within everything. And if you know where to look for it, there's a Bilbo Baggins quote here somewhere about hard music. I have a final question for you. Can you pinpoint the strangest kind of most eclectic random inspiration you've ever gotten for a heavy riff? It's Barry White. Yeah, 100%.

That's right. Do you got one? The only thing I could think of it, it's not particularly heavy, but it was used in a way that was I was watching like a live, a live performance of Warpigs. It just like came on YouTube one time. And there was a part in a Tony's just like soloing. And he did a, he did a melody in a solo that I was like, that would be a cool riff. And it turned into a Wolf Note song. But it like turned into like the whole.

song. And it's fun when like little snippets can kind of trigger something. That's how it is supposed to work. I think so too. Inspiration. Writers block for me comes from when I stop listening to music. I'll just, I'll avoid it because I'm like, no, I don't

want to like get any ideas and like, you know, ruin my train of thought. But really, you hear something and you go, oh, that'd be cool to be inspired by. There's a fucking big, I don't know.

Never mind. Yes. The answer is yes. New music coming soon. Most of the things I am like pulling inspiration from at this point. Yeah. Are not hardcore metal at all. Sick.

I think that's really how it should be. I agree. You're refining your process. You never trace this back if I didn't open a set. Yeah. You'd never find this Han Zin. Zimmer part if I didn't tell you there was a Hans Zimmer part in this song.

That's our episode. We thank you so much. Next week, we're going to be showing you our special tour of the punk rock museum. Wow. And the goddamn, it's a blast. You'll see Bo play some

Greg Ginn's legendary guitar or something, right? Something like that. He had one. He had one. It was there. I think Bo... played it. I was ripping on Wesley Willis' keyboard like there's no tomorrow. We jammed in the Pennywise room. Jammed in the Pennywise

room. It's a blast, this thing. So please hope you all enjoy. I'll be back in a few weeks. Don't bother me. See you in March. Godspeed. Have a good trip. Bring me back something French.

We'll do. Bye.