HardLore - HardLore & The Downbeat (Craig Reynolds): Live at Blissmas

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

For the very first time... HardLore and The Downbeat (Craig Reynolds) together at last. Two podcasts finally collide LIVE at a sold out event in Buffalo, New York before Better Lovers' second annual Holiday show: Blissmas. Filmed live by our good buddy Rob Menzer (New York HardLore series) and edited in record time by our main man Steven 197, enjoy this incredibly special live episode of both shows in one. We do all our stuff and bits and things. It rocked. Thanks to Tom Williams for making it happen and Craig for being awesome/accommodating with getting this video out ASAP. - Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes: https://patreon.com/hardlorepod - Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef Cool links: HardLore Official Website/HardLore Records store: https://hardlorepod.com Get 15% off MADD VINTAGE with code HARDLORE15! https://maddvintage.com/ Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod Try AG1 at athleticgreens.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW THE DOWNBEAT: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/thedownbeat/ SPOTIFY | https://open.spotify.com/show/1YwPfCDf1rJiyT48tYZgxl?si=84e26130e8014caf APPLE | https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-downbeat/id1431698171 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe FOLLOW CRAIG: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/reynlord/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/reynlord   HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER   For sponsorship opportunities, email us! [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

So drums, you practice a lot. Sometimes in... Is this your bit? Why? How, what is practicing like? I've seen you play an entire, like, new album live for people. That's... Why?

Because it seems difficult. I don't want them to see... It's so bad. Every instrument, and you're coming on here like, I'm cool. I don't care about drums. I don't care about everything. I don't do any of them particularly well, though. That's the secret.

Check. Oh, baby, when you broke my heart. Yeah, you can cut it. Hello. UK boy, Mark Morrison. Is he really? Yeah, and after, hello. Hello.

Hey. You know Mark Morrison Law? No, I know he returns somewhere, but I didn't know he returns. No, he returned. No, he was the Mac. He returned. And then after that song, he went to f***ing jail for, like, holding up a post office or something. Mailroom, whatever.

Post office, good. You guys got post offices? Yeah. Question one. Question one. You guys got post offices? And then he went to jail? I don't know.

He might still... You ever here going postal? What? Yeah, going postal. Me too. That was me today with American Airlines. Nice. Hey, guys.

How we doing? Hello, welcome. Hello, welcome to... Yes. To the first ever Hard Lord Downbeat collab. This is us. That was banged up in like Fucking five minutes by Colin

He's a wizard That's true But here's the problem I look like Harry But I am Because of the hat The little hat

The hat The hat the beard The weirdness But you have the boy is charmed I can imagine You use an after shave Like a motherfucker Hello welcome

To We're here to celebrate The Buffy The Better Lover's Christmas concert. Give it up for the better. Some of us, some of us brought production for this. This really is the perfect example of metalcore and hardcore.

That was your bit. He said that before. Yeah, I actually made that joke before, and he didn't even laugh. Reuses my joke at you. 300 people laughing. Slaughtered, killed. So welcome. First question, Craig.

Is this how you do? Straight in. I'm straight in. We don't have that much time. They're busy. We have so much time. I can not see you. I have to see you.

The thing is, Craig, I need you to tell me about doing PCP in India. Whatever you're ready. This is like my icebreaker story anyway. So this is great. We'll break some ice. It's freezing here.

First off, I've just done, this is my last date of like a downbeat podcast tour. And thank you to anyone who I see it's some face. that came to the other ones and I spent most of it talking about drugs

except I didn't tell that story once and now I'm kicking myself like that was a good story so save the best for ass what do you know I know you did PCP in Indian was it on purpose or accident

let's go okay so I had an old death metal band can everyone hear me at the back because I'm good we're good too loud too quiet Are that all right? Because they're coming in a minute. I had an old death metal band

and we split up. It was like Myspace era death metal. What was the name? Viatrophy. Oh wow. And the name came about from literally like sat there, stoned with my friends.

Just like, we were like Googling ways to die. One of them was just atrophy. Just complete atrophy of your muscles. It was shit to die. to die via atrophy and then we all went say that again see that again we should start a fucking bad anyway we like split up we were like

semi big in the UK semi sorry I live in American now figure that out would you say semi big you could say semi you could say semi what about if the one that's that's that's a that's a same that's a that's a that's a semi that's not a semi trust me boner yeah really English is crazy That's so sick For you guys Aluminium is the one That I think is going to take you a while

Fuss we do not fuck with that here No Petrol Get out Yeah but what do you do if there's diesel You must have diesel car Yeah You said diesel

We've got gas and diesel Yeah And ironically neither of them Are the right word Well neither of them Take petrol But one takes gasoline And one takes diesel

So Oh I forgot gasoline Is a word Yeah And I was thinking of like gas in your house. No, no. If you were going to kill every family

member at once. Different gas. Were you in New Delhi or where were you in India doing PCP? Way more professional podcast than mine. That section would have went on. I'm excited. I want to know this. Show the show because then we do the stuff.

Yeah, true. You got big shirts, we got little shirts. You know? It's true. Long way of saying it. My old death metal band, we split up. and a guy from India who was like some businessman was like I never got to see you guys live

if I paid for everything would you come and headline a festival in New Delhi and we were like we all fucking hate each other at that point but we can be bought and it was like he asked me and I was like let me just patch up all these friendships real quick but but but I did that fine because it was my fault obviously sorry about that

by the way do you want to come to do this India thing and it was in the National Institute of Technology University in Delhi and he'd

booked it out who's there as an email oh AG1 you can't talk about PCP bro so so oh this is getting filmed as well

fuck sorry boys I'll invoice me for that one so it was at a university and we get there and we do the show and there's like 5,000 people none of them have heard of us it was just this guy just wanted to pay for it so he could see us once we had like confetti cannons and all this shit after the show promoter loosely loose word

promoter comes up to me and goes do you guys want some weed and at that point me and our basis smoked weed and I was like yeah we'll take some weed and he goes you want the good stuff or the bad stuff And I was like, well, if I'm not a mathematician. Oh, I want the bad thing. Yeah, yeah. You think idiot.

I want the good stuff, sure. Comes, has this joint, rolled it up. Me, the basis, the promoter, smoke this joint. I start feeling really fucking weird. Training day. It's essentially training day in India with death core and a bit of a fridge. And, sorry, bangs. Fuck.

I'm going to get, oh, we got. I'm going to get extra. Fridge works. Fridge works. Okay. There's tons of devastating life-altering haircuts here that you know, they're all the same. Don't worry about it. So I start feeling really weird and then the next thing you know, and I just promise you this is 100% truth, I snap into consciousness, staring at my self in the mirror just as I come with a shower head blasting water up my ass.

like literally like I go from oh I feel really weird to I'm back in my hotel room one mile away by the way not and I'm like this is sorry yeah more like that kind of thing um and then like

did you have your own room or were you sharing with no it was in my own room he paid for everything bro so where does the PCP come into play i don't get it that's not just a deal anything i'm getting to that bit bro. Do you do that on weed often? I don't know. But I literally like fully into consciousness and then

I'm realizing like I'm tripping. I'm fully fucking tripping. Great wank. Don't get me wrong. So the shower head up the ass Yep. Well the water. I'm going to, was the PCP inspire that or is that something you do normally? That's what I was asking. That's why I asked

when does PCP come into play? This just sounds like a normal Tuesday. Yeah, this is just great. So what I have deciphered from the whole situation is, I don't know you guys, ever done a drug? No. I smoked oregano in sixth grade. I wrapped it up in computer paper. Oh, sir.

Because I watched my dad smoke all the time and it was like, this is obviously the coolest guy to ever live. So I poured all the oregano, the crushed pepper, all the good shit. Anything you would put on pizza, I've smoked it. In one single computer paper joint. when you light paper with a bunch of orego in it, it goes, and immediately evaporates, tasted unbelievable. Yeah?

Did you jerk off? Didn't jerk off. I haven't done water up the ass recreation. You got bad herbs, bro. What I've deciphered happened was in India, they have handheld bidetes. So shower head is like a loose term. They've got these handheld bideties. What I've deciphered, if you've done a lot of class A drugs,

Which I have. Which ones are those? Which A? Oh, they're like the good shit. He just needs the quality. I forgot this is so many straight-age people leaving comments. This is new for me. When I get to love.

I've stopped doing drugs. Whoa! Yeah, I've stopped doing drugs. Yeah, I know. Crazy. Congrats, man. Thank you. We don't really have pubs here, so.

You should out of looking. That's why. You guys have a couple. There's Adolf. There's a tavern here called Adolfs. I'm sorry. What's up with that? And it's good.

Huh? Adolf is Irish? I'm going to... My history might be off. No, no, no. You're on. I don't know what you guys are telling. So, basically, if you do a lot of a class A drug,

you can't monetize this. Now you'll fight. Oh, it's not first. Who cares? Yeah. You didn't laugh. They'll be laughing. Sometimes you get what's called the like come up shits.

So when all the, when all the, you don't need class A drugs for those, for that, trust me. No, but like when it, when all the, do you drink caffeine? Oh yeah. Loads. Okay, cool. So when you drink a lot of coffee and you need your shit, that's, it's not technically. All I need is to smell the beans and I am.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the same. If I smell a cigarette on the same. But with certain class A drugs, they will make you evacuate your bowel. immediately. So what I've just ciphered is I smoked whatever I thought it was started to come up. I was at the venue

which was a festival in India. Now you know what festivals are like not in India. Yeah. So times that by India. And then I was like, I need to shit, I need to go the hotel. No recollection of what I did between the mile of the venue and the hotel. Who knows where you shit? Fuck knows. Literally I mean shit in a way. That was Temple of Doom.

You did the whole thing. There was like cows on the side of the road when I walked back. And I was like, what have I been up to? Like just a trail of destruction. I come back. I've obviously done the shit, gone to use the bidet hose,

and went, oh. Pretty good. Yeah, exactly. Like that. Done that. Done the wank. Anyway, come back to the venue. our bassist is just rocking back and forwards.

Like, he's never smoked weed again since. And I was like, I was coming up to him, I'm like, mate, you've just got to have a wank. You've just got to have a wank. You've just got to have a wank. He's never smoked weed again. The next day I spoke to the promoter and I was like, what the fuck was in that weed? He was like, oh, you said the good stuff. And I was like, yeah, what's that?

And he was like, you know, like angel dust. And I was like, oh, PCP. And it was like, oh, you could have told me. We should get into PCP. We got to get some. We got to get some. So drums, you practice a lot. Sometimes in...

Is this your bit? Why? How, what is practicing like? Does it benefits you performatively? Does you guys, I've seen you play an entire, like, new album live for people. Yeah? That's fucked up. Why?

Because it seems difficult. I don't want them to see. It's so interesting. Every instrument and you're coming on here like, I'm cool. I don't care about drums. Master about everything. I don't do any of them particularly well, though. That's the secret.

No, don't come on here. I don't have natural talent. So what I need to do is just practice at all times. You know? And, yeah, I practice a lot on board. So you're bored, you play drums. Yeah, you don't. That's crazy.

We hate it. We're clocking in when we're practicing. When I get home from a tour, I don't touch a guitar. For months. Really? Yeah. It's the best. I always talk about how much I hate drums,

but now I feel like maybe I love it. I think you like drums. I think you're a drummer. You're sick. Yeah. You just said they're sick, though. So why aren't you practicing? You must have practiced at some point to be good.

You do it when you're 16, so that when you're 17, you're done. Yeah, but I took loads of drugs. I took loads of drugs and that just empties the brain again. It's a whole reset situation. Cool. now I could probably not do it Oh But I still

You do it every day So I don't know what you're talking about I see you on there Yeah Yeah It's you Any good? You're great

Thanks man Yeah So are you know how you do it I wish I could not practice But I think it's a mix Between like a crippling Fear of getting worse Which doesn't exist

No No I got so much worse Oh yeah So I'm good then I'm so much You're doing good I think I'm not saying you should stop

I'm saying how was this specific practice routine how and why now I know the why oh no no no how does a band from New York find a lad like yourself how did you end up

and stray from the path who approached who? Okay so I toured with I used to drum tech for architects and we toured a bunch we stayed in touch

Tom Williams who's in the back there shout out Tom he bookless he posted on Facebook I believe trying to think

if it was Facebook or Myspace no it was Facebook era he posted something about Adele we stayed in touch but we didn't really talk he posted something about Adele

she's British she's British she's also a class traitor. Explain. I don't know if you know this. She got very annoyed about her taxes.

And it was at the same time that he posted something positive about Adele's music and I wrote underneath it something horrific which I won't even say on here but it got it piqued the interest of political activist Tom Williams.

Who's this guy that hates Adele? Holy shit, he's really good drums. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. So he hit me up. It was literally one message. And it just said, do you want to join straight? And I was like, yes. And he was like, okay, we'll figure it out.

And that was it. Nice. And we figured it out. Like, they knew I could play drums because of all the practice in it on the internet. So. And they knew we could hang out. You know what that's like. That's the main thing.

Yeah. You don't have to be good. We've never spoken before in person before today. Correct. This is good. Our first time meeting was telling you great. I've actually met you. When?

Holmes way at the, I want to say... He's such a piece of shit. Cardiff. I want to say Cardiff Barfly, or one of those type venues in Wales? In Wales? 2013. That would have been with him. That's another, that's ages ago.

That would have been with you. I wasn't. We didn't play Cardiff in 2020. Maybe Newport, one or Bristol, one of those. If I was in, that would have got so much of a pop in the UK because... I was born in Bristol, Connecticut, so that popped. Two different countries. They are two different...

Thank you. Is that close? I... We're just out. I deserve a clap then. Yeah. So they were... They're like two different countries, and that would have got a pop anyway.

Well, my apologies for not remembering. Why did you say that would have been him? Because I was there. What? Why... 2013, we toured Europe together. Yeah. So we just didn't care.

me or what band were you in in 2013 twitching tons yeah that was the show oh wasn't cardiff it must have sucked i think it might have been newport if anyone that isn't us oh shit it was newport it was the first show for sure for sure brutal we gotta unload the whole fucking trailer oh i didn't meet you but i remember meeting you

because everyone in brutality will prevail said you were a legend oh i introduced myself to you and they didn't say anything about you i've never met that i don't know during there was a part during that show where it was just me playing a transition and the like wall war to the pedal board fell out. I remember this. You remember that? This is 11.

Because it was that embarrassed. And it was just and it was just ban and and blah. And I was like, this is the cool guy you were telling me. Yeah. Fucked up. So you posting your drum writing processes and all that, I wonder

while you're doing that, is Tom Tom, are you the songwriter? 50-50? Craig, drum-wise, are they pre-programming some of the things to the riffs, or are you doing all that? You just fucked in the head. Because there's a lot of that, the metal core drum nuance is something that's hard for me to wrap my head around, just technically.

Is some of that the asshole guitar player? He cannot fucking use a mouse, let alone fucking... Worst guy in the world of programming drums, I love him. But so the normal process is Which started in the pandemic is I would just jam And Tom would be, we do it on Twitch And Tom would be in the chat And I would jam a cool beat

Tom would say I like that one Yeah Then I would go home and program it To then send to him And then he would write to that So drums first A lot of guillotine's drums first Like a lot of stuff is drums first

That doesn't, that's not normal. Was this on a, like, a live Twitch channel or a private one? I like, both one. We just did it. We did the same thing, but on, we wrote Common Suffering through Twitch a lot, but on a channel that no one knew so that no one could join. Anybody ever join? I'm missing out. Yeah, but they hear the shitty riffs too, and they go, oh, thank God they didn't put that shitty one.

No, but that's been amazing. Honestly, I did get, like, normal and not funny, but it's been amazing for my, like, imposter syndrome. that I know at a stray show, anyone that actually cares, you know what it's like, when you play a show and you have the anxiety and you're like,

if I fuck up, everyone's going to fucking hate me. And realistically, the percentage of people who are actually drummers is very low or guitarists and then realistically, the percentage of them

that would have realized the mistake is very low so you've got nothing to worry about. But you still worry. All of the people that have been on my Twitch have seen me be absolutely dog shit. they've seen the worst.

They can only go up from there. So, but, like, performance anxiety isn't amazing? Do you think people notice when my guitar came on Plugged Ed Newport? 100%? I remembered it 11 years later. So... Are you more anxious for something like this,

or playing with Shrey? Playing with Shrey, definitely. Really? Yeah. I'm like, I can't even look that way. Yeah. Really? Who's the funniest?

He's always Mr. Cool Ice. No problem all the time. Look at it. I am very familiar with the pattern of this wall. You know what? Do you know what it is, though, and it is to my own discredit and to your credit, even today, I've seen the man at work. That's not... No, that is like you are locked in.

How do we do this? Even the backstage, we're workshopping things to talk about and all this stuff. Whereas I'm like, I'm going to talk to someone. I hope they're funny. See, that's what we did for our first ever live one, and I think it was one of the great historical disasters. It was fine. It was in Manchester. I hated it.

He hated it. You can watch it. It sucks. Well, I've just done five and two of them were shit. Speaking of things to talk about. What's your favorite conspiracy? I had to write that down. I mean, there's a new one.

There are we a couple of... I don't think that's really. Maybe a fucking week old. That's not a conspiracy. It's real. McDonald's was in with the CIA to catch this guy. Okay, so we're disregarding that one. You're not talking about the self-service kiosk.

Oh, don't get me to start. Identifying Luigi. McDonald's caught this. No, that's 100% 100% 100%%%%%%. Okay, good. Yeah. Like, that's a fresh one. It's fucked up.

I'm trying to think of one, one that I actually truly believe. Without, like, getting you completely demonetummed. Yeah. Yeah. The Britney Spears one. Shout out to Emma from, yeah, Emma Boster from, I wish over there. She introduced me to the

Britney Spears thing. That's not Britney Spears. Oh, yeah. The body double stuff. Yeah. Well, now she's saying she's five years old and driving a Honda, what is it?

She said a Mazda Carolla or something, which is not a car. She just said, she's saying I'm five years old. I'm five years old. Which I, you know, listen. So they've replaced it with a five year old. That's the proof.

There's also Avril Levine. right? Paul McCartney Andrew WK HWK HWK both dope Andrew WK one time played Rainfest

but it wasn't him no Emma did you think it wasn't him no no it was not him it was one of his guys he has a team of people who go and perform as Andrew

no way I swear to God I was tearing out the whole time shit MF Doom did that all the time as well he's got a mask Android WK has a gorgeous handsome face I always think that with like bands like sleep toes

And it was just like, imagine you just take a day off. They're the biggest. Dude, and they don't. I don't know. Well, they were like, the bass player just had COVID or the sickness of something, and they just used bass tracks. Do you know what? I like, I don't listen to it. It's not my cup of tea.

But like when I saw the singer not perform when he could have quite easily gone on tracks, I was like, fair play. They're a real band. They're a real band. Real shit. Taking the time off. and then the bassist on tracks I was like it's just bass

yeah drums if drums on tracks which better lovers just had to do wild move so respect to them for pulling it off that's fucking unbelievable very definitely extenuating circumstance

as well respect for that that's nightmare shit and they pulled it off so I don't even know how was it so weird not having a symbol rattling right next to you oh

nice perfect But that's a band that you don't play on click, correct? So you had to do a whole show on click for that? So you just played to a recording. So technically still real. Yeah, it's real, right, yeah, still shit. Fuck yeah, good for you. Never heard of anyone ever.

Wait, what's your favorite conspiracy? Oh, Jesus Christ. Thank you, everybody, for coming here today. We're going to finally start the podcast episode. I don't know, man. There's a whole bunch of cool stuff. I love tunnels. I mean the tunnels.

How about the celebrity Audubon? The actor bond? You guys know about that? What? There's a tunnel system in L.A. That is called the actor. We're going to go on the other tunnel.

I'm not going to be a conspiracy, which is incredibly monetized. We're remaining monetized. There's the actor bond. It's a series of tunnels that are under Hollywood where you live so that people can get from point A to Point B. There's things like Starbucks down there.

There's all kinds of stuff. There's people. who now their NDAs are expiring. So, like, a story is a girl went out on a Tinder date, signed an NDA, went to some crazy-ass party. Her NDA expired, and she's saying, yeah, we were on this tunnel system. We were underground for like 15 minutes.

Suddenly we went from Long Beach to Venice. I've seen actors in traffic. Sure, but maybe they're not big enough, dude. Gabe? Gabe has seen actors in traffic. You believe in the tunnels, Gabe? Get this fun. Actor bomb.

That's a fun one. I don't know. Can you imagine being so famous that you can't pick your nose in your car? Is that a thing that's happened? Would that ever stop you? You can be the prisons. Pat photo knuckle deep, I'd be devastated, but it would be like, yeah, I'm a human being. Is that based on a celebrity getting caught doing that, or you're just saying?

No, I just think about it sometimes when I'm picking my nose. I think that's awesome, though. Like, you know the Ben Affleck photos where he's just holding Duncan? Dude, a fucking bummed. The American hero. Like, I would love that. But he's so bummed in all of them And dude there's so many drinks every time

Every time Every time What's he up to? Well I've heard that those were staged No I'm not trying to be a bummed drinks all five Beau Come on He's a big dude

He's a big guy so tell me about You don't have to tell me how you broke your back But I want to hear about breaking your back Making a record and immediately going on tour Why'd you do that? We have to discussion. We had a discussion before this about not talking about this.

No, we don't have to... Yet, here it is. No, the good part. This is the triumph. The inspired. This is already broken. The Klein. Broke my back.

Broke my back. Long story short, I cannot be killed. By myself or otherwise. Amazing. It fucked some stuff up. Sorry, Tom. We're good now. And then we had to move the album recording.

by three months, because apparently all of us were like broken back, will be healed in three months, surely. Ends up it wasn't. Does that plague you to this day, the back stuff? I started taking an app for it. There's an app for that to fix things. There's a back app? A couple of laughs from the big lads in the crowd there, yeah.

There's an app for it. Really? Yeah, you load it up in a syringe. Ah. No, I went to a doctor. It wasn't healing. I went to a doctor. He went. Now, British doctors.

Yeah. Good? British healthcare? Good? Most prolific serial killer of all time. Highest death count was a British doctor. Who was that? Dr. Harold Chipman.

He killed a lot of people. So he's good. The best. Well, did he get caught? The best at killing. Maybe not the best doctor. We know what's the name. He got caught.

He got caught. If you take him away, British doctor's pretty good, depending on if you are seeking drugs. I think America is really great at just giving people whatever they fucking want, which is probably not a good thing. And British people, I do the complete opposite because of the healthcare system. They're trying to save money.

They're trying to save the money. So it's like, oh, you're depressed. Yeah, maybe you can take. this but not have therapy. Whereas in America, they're like, oh, you're depressed. Yeah. Yeah. You have how much money?

This is why CEOs are being murdered. Which, which, let's be honest. Let's be real here. This is objectively speaking. I feel this is undeniable. If every CEO in the world was fearful of being murdered on the street, I think the world would be a better, safer place. Two albums about it. That's all we write about these days.

That extends a long way. Yeah. Politicians. CFOs. Is anyone called Mario here? Have you got any Italian Americans? You have the opportunity to do the funniest thing. I'm not going to tell you who.

Yeah. Because that would be inciting something. Is your podcast on Spotify? Yeah. It was. It was. Just wondering. Do you think doing this, the podcast, versus what do you think is more difficult for you?

Podcasts or what? Coordinating a podcast and guests and doing all that. Because to me it's like exhausting versus, I mean, I haven't written a song like two years, so that's bad. But so maybe that's harder, but. I thought the podcast was easier. But you still go, you still do remote, don't you? Yeah. I fucking got rid of that

like six months in just based on the amount of admin they're getting out people's files you do a whole episode and someone's fuck summing up all that shit I was like nah I can't do it so that what's that like

so I once I switched to doing it in person it became so much easier than any of the music stuff and then I always thought like I'll do a podcast tour because that would be more chill Like, it's been, I've been more tired the last week

than I've ever been on tour. Like, it's just two hours of brain. People think this yapping shit is easy, man. I'm fucking, I'm getting drained right here. Anyway, my back, my thing. Anyway, we went to, we did the studio. It hurt a lot. And then we went straight on tour.

It still hurt. There was a point when my legs weren't working correctly. So I was like trying It was the weirdest thing Like really simple like drum patterns Yeah The ones that used bigger movements Was just like not working

So that was difficult We did two tours Recorded an album with a broken back And then I went to a... I'll say this, I don't care I went to a doctor And they

I got given something that they called The Wolverine Stack Fuck yeah Which is like It was a real doctor. Wasn't just a guy. Right?

I'm pretty sure it's legal. My name was on the bottle. Yeah. Bottles, plural. And it was like three peptides that are for like human healing. I don't know. It's going to be like the substance

in like a year's time. My back's fine, guys. But like, I got given this Wolverine stack and it was like, it's just a bunch of peptides. I can't walk or anything. Bro.

It fucking worked so well. It was like three months of my back still hurting, everything fucking fine. And then six weeks, back was fine, legs were back, grew a beard. Holy shit. So drugs good? It sucks. I don't think they're drugs, though. I think those, the things that are on it, I can't remember the names.

I just, okay. go. I took peptides for some elbow pain. Didn't you shit? Didn't do nothing. So expensive. Craig, what are your thoughts on... You're so pro.

I love it. What are your thoughts on touring Europe as almost a European? I've just done five days of content based on this. On this, okay. I'm more interested to know yours and then to give me my insight. Because you know full well. You know full well. The UK is not Europe.

No, it's not at all. There was a whole thing where we left it, and it's completely fucked up there. Now, what are your thoughts on that? You lost the EU passport. That sucks. It sucks so much. Did that in some way make it easier for you to come here, though? Like, to move here?

I think... I think that was part of it, wasn't it? No, and that never transpired. Do we want... Do we want British people here? Like him? Yeah. Like, you're allowed to just move here?

That seems insane. I got the big... Why can't everybody do it? I got the big deal. I got the Big Dick visa. Yeah. My visa literally says on it, and this is not a lie. And this is not what I think of myself.

Big Dick. Imposter syndrome. Hugh. No. It says, alien of extraordinary talent. Oh, way. Time the long. Isn't it?

So literally today at the border. Because I had P1s. I'm on an O1 now. I had P1s, which is like the shit muncher, fucking, I'll let you in to do a bit of work, then you have to go home. They always grill me at the border with a P1.

They would always be like, what are you doing here? Are you here? Blah, blah, blah. And then even just today, coming back into the States from Canada, they were like, oh, the cop was just like,

oh, oh, one's, couple of O-1s in here because it was me and Brendan. And we were like, yeah, and he was like, must be real famous. Wow, why? And then he had my wrong passport.

Because I've got a passport with my O-1, which is my old one, and they've got a new one, just let us in. Wow. They didn't even check it. Extraordinary. Yeah. So I can be here, bro, to answer your question. Europe.

I'm in. No, you're right in that England is not... Britain. Come on. There's more than just... Well, I've never been outside. I've only been to Wales. Never been to Scotland or Ireland.

Oh, I love Scotland. Never do you come into Scotland. It's crazy. Tomorrow. I'll both to Knackville tomorrow. Welcome. Thanks. But yeah, Europe is fucking...

It's another planet. I would say that the European passion... It's just fucking... Is unrived. It's so... It's a different kind of passion that I think... Fucking. Yeah.

Well... Holland is okay, though. I like Holland. Netherlands, Belgium. The Dutch are cool. Yeah, I know where you're going. Is anyone here German? They're like officially German.

German accent, German? Canst du george? No. Why, it doesn't matter. That lighting's not going to strike the line. Where you're going is the honesty thing. Yeah. Well, it's fucking insane.

Well, they're just ruthless. Yeah. They're ruthless to you. And if you suck a little at all of your respective instruments like me, that ruthlessness really gets you. The German people are very, they have a thought they'll tell you it straight away.

Yeah. Without thinking about your feelings. They come up, I preferred the shoes you were wearing last time. Literal thing I heard at merch. Which, you know, I can accept that in some circumstances, in other circumstances, not so much.

I always thought that everyone was exaggerating the German honesty thing, and our first night there was in Essen, Germany, and there was a guy who had been messaging the harm's way count. Just saying, I'm so excited. You know, blah, blah, I can't believe you're coming to my town. And he came there and we were kind of talking. I was like, hey, man, you know, grab a shirt. This is 2010. Well, it's a shirt. Like, prime German time. They were really ruthless.

Shirts were huge. He looked at the shirt and he went, nah. It threw it back at me. It landed on me. And I suddenly knew everyone was telling the absolute truth. So he asked to taste it in M and then through it. Yeah. Yeah. It's another thing they do. Beautiful. I like the Eastern Europeans, though. I'll tell you what. Polish people are cool. I mean, realistically, they're all

cool. We're just, you know, it's a culture shot. You're talking about you hate being there. You hate the no hands. You know, I went down the people route. You mean you hate that. The food. Moving directly into water. Yeah. That's Italy. That's not Germany. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's true.

They got on my hands. The Japanese beg you to differ. They got the shelf in Germany. The shelf in Germany? The shelf in Germany, I thought the shelf was like Holland. Oh, I've shelled. They got shaves. You know what they got in Italy is the fucking hole.

It really is a hole. You'll take the hole over the shelf. No, I love it. I don't know. In Italy, there's just a hole in the ground that you shit into. It's a porcelain hole. Kind of fun, because you can stand up and it feels like you're just shitting. I genuinely think that, like, that's what we were meant to do.

I mean This is like For in terms of relief And in terms of relief And this fucking squat Yeah This checks us out It's insane

That's what he loves This toilet This is not This is what he does I'm not joking Guys I'm at home Guys

You got home We're talking shit What? Oh the hole Oh no Sometimes I'll go straight up here On the seat It sits like that

On the toilet You got squatty party Oh yeah It's not enough He puts his heels On the toilet bullshit At home only

How big's the fucking toilet? Big enough. Do you not like end up breaking the seat or whatever? I've broken a seat or two. Bare foot? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You're not going to be un-negligible.

Sometimes I do it on the one where it's like not a finished seat, you know, and there's a little bit of porcelain there and the heel slips on the porcelain. That's a... Yeah. But you want to, you got to try. Everybody try this technique tonight. You're not going to believe how much more there is. You got a bidet?

I wish, bro. Dude, they're accessible now. That's the other thing. You get this technique down. You spray a little water up there first. You're primed like it's never going out before. I will never leave the house, bro. I was going to be wanking.

It is actually shocking how, like, we just got back from a pretty long one, or a pretty long tour, I should say, not a shit. And we just go back. I just got back from a really long shit. We just got back from the Hapreet tour that was really long. And by the end of it, you're missing your bidet. I'll tell you what.

Dude, we travel so seldom now that like day one, my hole is wrecked. I tried to say that in a way for you guys not to hear those words. So I try. I got rep H-wives in my backpack right now. I don't think it's, In the UK day, I don't think we can get the bideties quite as easily. No, you can get them now. No, well, it doesn't matter now.

If only there were, like, a ton of bidet companies that might be watching this. But that's what I mean. Well, if Brendan Murphy is in the crowd now, I don't know if he is. He's probably gone somewhere else. He got a free one. There he is. Brendan got a free one for drinking out of a toilet, drinking out of the bidet. Oh, I shan't be doing that.

Oh, you shot, you squirt straight in your mouth? That's awesome. And then he got a free one. free bidet from it. It's sink water. Content. It is sink water. Well, now I got the, I got the bidet that when it goes away, it cleans itself. You could drink that. Wait, wait, wait. You've got a Toto

washlet. Let's see what else we got here. That's the name of my girl from India. You can't go wash. It's the Tosheno Wash. It's the Tushy one. It's got a heated seat. This is free promo. You get an ass now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You can have a crazy eye for design. Like Off toilet? No, we're yeah, we're off toilets We're moving out Yeah, we're good Talking good shit though What I want to talk to you about

Is merch design, your studio setup Your branding Is this all from your head? Yeah, it's all me You're a very, very creative man Thank you Pretty amazing I'm ruining

This comes up with a high nude Yeah, I don't know what it is I like three things in life and it is the drums. Obviously. You can't even obsess with drums. Yeah, number one, bro. I must.

And I talk about how much I hate him all the time, but I must love him. Number two, the gym. I love going to the gym. Obviously, it's my favorite thing. You love that? I fucking love that. Maybe I just love shit that's just punishing.

And then number three is like clothes. I love clothes. Big three. So being able to like make stuff. Yeah. Funny story. I love making stuff. Funny story.

Yeah, of course you do. You know about fucking clothes and design. Initially, I always wanted to start a podcast, and I wanted to start a clothing line. But it was at the time when everyone was like, hey, guys, check out my clothing line, like singers in bands or whatever, Atila, whatever.

Did he have a clothing line? Anyway, whatever. And then, and I was like, I don't want to get lumped into that. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to start the podcast that I wanted to do anyway and I'm going to make the merch look like all of the clothes

I wanted to make anyway and no one will notice. And then it worked. Wow. The crazy thing about the stuff that I see you make and post about is it all look so comfy. Look at this shirt.

Biggest shirt. So big. It's the shirt you've ever still on little shirts, but... Are you on little shirts? Is that a hardcore, metal court thing? I don't know. Could be. Your shirt's not little. No. X-L is the shirt.

XL is the shirt. No, no, I'm saying that shows. What? So shirt you're wearing. This is a 2X, but I shout out to that. Wolverine, so. That's a little shirt.

Yeah, and that has been a nightmare. Like, literally, maybe 24 hours ago, I got told that 600 pairs of shorts that I've made, the vendor was like, oh, we've actually accidentally made one of the legs of different colors

to the other leg. And I was like, how's that happened? And they were like, yeah, the colors were too similar. And I was like, black and black. Too fucking similar. So like, it is a nightmare because it all has to be custom and it is an absolute pain.

And I would say, if you were ranking things, the motherfucking conductor, baby. Ranking things in terms of annoyance or how hard it is, I think making clothes comes first, then drums, then the podcast. Okay. That's good.

You're doing good. What? What's your biggest pet peeve? What counts as a pet? Anything that most people would go, really? Like, just something that's just like, oh, that, that gets you? I mean, you can relate. My big, big one recently.

Yeah, give me yours. I said this a couple weeks ago, but let's say we were an event just like this. And I said, give it up for Craig Reynolds, everybody. Was it the Danai? Because that's my pet. Not that. I think you can do a little bit better than that. Give it a little bit better.

Yeah, that's it. I'm out the fucking door. I did. I did one of your least favorites today, leaving the hotel to find you in Mac, dropped my sunglasses while walking. I don't drop stuff. Oh, drop, oh, okay.

I don't drop shit. If we're bringing like pet peeves of things that we have to do. Yeah. Yeah, anything. Or just happening. Like, if you drop your keys, how close is it to the end of your life?

Keyes is not a problem. Any form of carrying anything. Up to and including a backpack. I would put backpack as my pet peeve. Like, I have a full fucking meltdown. This whole tour, I've had to carry this light in a box. And have a backpack. Even the word backpack is doing my fucking head in.

Do you have a big backpack? Like a big, thick sixth grade backpack? Well, kind of, because it's got like camera stuff in it. So it is, you know, it's... You look a little silly. Yeah. I'm going to school. See you there.

I got my lunch. So I think backpacks would be... Backpacks? That's a great answer. But not on... Because I go, really? Not on anyone else, but just on me, it's like... It's like an old age equivalent of like...

I don't know. What they used to do in medieval times when they were, like, put a dunce cap on someone or something. Like, something to make... you to the rest of the world. When I put a backpack on, I feel like I'm wearing it. Ever is, we're all watching. Ridicule, yeah.

We're all looking at that guy with his backpack. I went to war today with a man. I flew here in a, like, a two seat per side plane, smaller plane, you know? So there's no, yeah, there's no bad seat, which is sick. But I had the window, and the second I sat down, this guy fucking, it just held his ground. And you rode those guns out at the time, though? No. I was all.

You fucked up, bro. I do. You got to fucking assert dominance the minute you get on the plane. See, but that's so, motherfuckers, man. It's all there for the same purpose. And I think that as a big man, you are a fucking loser.

Yeah. If you put yourself in a middle seat. And if you're living your life as a big guy, you're, you suck because every aspect of your life should be determined around, okay, I have to be big. different place today. So this one is a plane. That sucks for everybody if I'm in the middle.

I genuinely think Sepaku is the only answer to a big guy in a middle seat who's spreading out. At the very least, you've got to pay the big tax. I'm a big guy. I should probably buy my own seats. I mean, no, I don't mean, I don't even mean big that way. I mean just like, you can be tall. Oh, I'm talking about tall. Yeah, anything. I was literally referencing you on my head. Oh, wow. And I was like, yeah, you, the big tax. in my brain. Oh, I don't know if America has like a real big tax thing because that sounds like you fucking do.

If not, it's coming. Yeah. I'm trying to giant. You still getting ideas. The big guy tax is a tall man's tax where, you know, you're getting all the girls or guys, whatever you're into. You get all the compliments or whatever. You have to pay for extra allegra.

You must pay. I do. I get the eye on that. And that is the big guy tax. That is us. smaller people just getting a little bit back from you, a little bit back from your aura. I would love to know what you want for me.

Not to sit on a plane next to you. Oh, that's fine. I don't think you're a smart guy, you would never put yourself in that position. But these motherfuckers out there, putting themselves in middle seats, or being so negligent that you don't open the fucking app and click, just pick it, you can pick a seat now.

Any seat. No, you have to pay, though. Sometimes it's free. Most of the times it's free. Just if you're big, Be proactive. It's the only thing I spend money, money on, is being comfortable traveling,

because I fucking, I could do two hours on how much I fucking hate flying. You believe in ghosts, Craig? Oh, I got ghost stories. Really? How long are you got? About 37 more minutes. Is that real?

No, we got an hour. We'll go to five. We good. I do believe in ghosts. I have had a ghost encounter. I had a thing.

Fuck you. He's a piece of shit. He don't believe you, so you can talk straight to Papa over here, okay? Wait, you don't believe in ghosts. I know. You do believe in ghosts. He does.

He's foolish. I'm Papa. Small truth. This is it. This is like the episode one of Dan da Dan. If anyone's seen that, do you believe in aliens? And he believes in ghosts?

Oh, I fuck with aliens. I definitely believe in aliens. I can go, yeah. Right. Anyway, so I had a friend of a friend at school. Oh, it already sounds like I'm making this up. Is this in England? In England.

Primary school? Did you say primaries? Primary school? The accent was kind of crazy at the end. No, no. That's a one. This was actually in what we would call secondary school. Now, that's middle.

No, I think that'd be high school. Oh, so what is it, is it kindergarten, primary, secondary? Yeah, but we wouldn't call it... We wouldn't call it kindergarten. We have it as a concert. You guys should try kindergarten. It was awesome. Yeah, we have the thing.

I can't remember what it's called. I was a kid, I can't remember. You were kidding. Yeah, primary high school or secondary school. But some people call it high school. Weirdly, the posh schools in the UK were called high school. schools. The shitty ones

the shitty ones for us are called secondary schools. Interesting. And an even weirder thing it was public school for you guys is just normal school correct? Public school in the UK

is the word that we use for private schools. The opposite of public schools. The complete opposite. Who are the fucking language? It's Harry Potter. Something to do with Harry Potter. They figured it out.

But I had a friend of a friend and he went to public school. which was private school. Oh, it was posh. That's why I was a friend of a friend. It was my friend's friend. Yeah. Rich, mate.

Yeah. You wouldn't be cut. Lovely house, though. We did go. Yeah. He was a lovely guy. We went and hung out there. It's not his fault.

It's his parents. We went, we'd go and hang out of his house. And he had like, he lived in the house that they based Toad Hall in the wind in the willows. don't know if you know what that is. It's a book. That's different than Mr. Toad's Wild, right? I think it might be the same guy. They've taken him out.

Anyway, there's like, there's like a book, like fucking must be a good book, I don't know. And it's like a big manor, and his parents' house was based on that. And they had these tennis courts, like old 1800-style tennis courts. And he was like, oh, we need to go down at nighttime. Because there's ghosts.

and I was like, bollocks. There's no fucking way there's ghost there. Oh, say it bylux again. Bullocks. There's no way that there's ghost there. So we went there at night

and it's these old like indoor tennis courts and there was no fucker in there at all and you could hear the squeak of shoes and the odd hit of like a tennis, like a tennis racket hit in some. It was the most insane thing I've ever seen or heard. You've heard it. Heard it was in the fucking room.

And ever since then, I've been like, that's fucking crazy. And then I've had a bunch of friends who've died or whatever, and something's happened. I don't know if it's ghosts. Something's happened afterwards. I'm like, there's no fucking way. That's not some otherworldly thing. Whether or not it's real ghosts, maybe I'm on your side.

I'm not some sort of energy. Stonewall theory You know that? No. What you're supposed to be in ghosts? It's not a theory. Stonewall tracks. Great fucking answer.

Thank you. So anyway, it goes surreal for sure. Just so fucking quick. What did you say? You're sharp. We got stuff, dude. Yeah, no about it. General.

It's a compliment. Stop it. Stop looking at those. I want to know what I wrote for you. Look at this. I asked this earlier, but I wrote drum. practicing motherfucker here. Why is motherfucker, though?

Because you do it. You do it like a motherfucker. Hey, I want to do a little word association from the crowd here real quick. We'll get into like a nice little proper Q&A thing at the end. We're going to have you guys come to this podium. So get ready for that mentally. But before then, why don't you just shout out a thing and we'll talk about it? He's running. Flute.

Never played the flute. The recorder. It's kind of like a flute. Is the recorder as big in British? It's huge. Really? It's huge. You have to play it.

It's like number one instrument. In California, you learn the recorder before you learn Spanish in school. And the word is crazy because it does no recording. There's no recording. Wow. At no point does the audio stay. No. I like this game.

We're crushing right now. What's nice? Braggslist? Oh, my God. You ever do the thing? where you look up, you put your buddy's number on there and you put like a trampoline

and then your buddy gets a thousand calls for the trampoline? No. You gotta give it a shot. Funnily enough, the band, the death metal band that broke up that did the... Big trampoline heads?

The PCP thing, no. On our final tour, because I was very annoyed with the guitarist, anyone that came up to me and said, why are you breaking up I had cards made

that said the viatrophy hotline and it would give you the information you knew and it was a guitarist phone number 100% fucking true dude that's yeah it's direct and actually even to add to the Craigslist thing

I thought you were talking about the fact on my phone I have a revenge list of people this is a two in one for my oh Craigslist really not a nice Craig? So Craig has a list.

I have a list. Yeah, I have a different list. Okay. Different list. And it's a revenge list. Anyone that's really wronged me. In fact, some minor wrongings on there as well. Billy Madison, so. Craig.

Give me three names. I can't give you the names or else I won't get the revenge. What I can tell you is I have two separate emojis that are worth differing points. to get people struck from the list. Okay. Okay. So.

Has anybody, have you gotten revenge? Have you exacted? Almost everyone that has been on it has come off it. I think maybe there's two people on it. Wow. Anybody no longer alive? Anybody in this rule? No, one of them...

No, that's really dumb. One of them I put money on it, but... Okay. So that was Craigslist. We go, wow. World past, well, he has to the crowd when.

You ever, like, get a job off Craxless, like, do a gig or something? Yeah. What time I thought I could be a mover? I was, like, 19,

I was broke because I could possibly be, and I was like, I can lift stuff. I can move. That'd be a, dude, when you go to a,

like, a three, three-story move, and there's, like, four other 40-year-old dudes who have just, like,

have forearms the size of your legs. Like, they can lift un, believable amounts of things and I'm struggling with Abax. So you haven't played in Glasgow yet. You must have played in Glasgow. You've seen the guy with the 8 by 10s?

No. Is that a known guy in the crew in Glasgow that loads in and out of the venues? And he will walk up stairs with 2 8 by 10s. That's so far. If required. I think those probably weigh over 100 pounds. How long into living in Scotland did you understand anything that they were saying? Both my parents are Scottish.

Yet I sound like this. They moved to England and had me, so I have full English accent, but they are both as Scottish as they come. So you knew their ways as if it was... Immediately. Probably partly why I went up there. There was a weird, like...

It felt like home, even though it wasn't home because everyone had the same voice as my parents. I love it there. Beautiful. I'll take it over England every fucking day of the week. But you're leaving it. Yeah, to move here. Say another word. Buffalo.

Buffalo. Adolf's Tavern. World famous. 9-11 Tavern? Whoa. Any other tragedy taverns here? Jesus. Whoa, is it based on the thing?

No. Like probably 911 because they're hot. You got to call. Oh, just death. Buffalo, New York. Are they next to each other? We could have the most amazing like Avengers, but for taverns, we got Adolf, we got 9-11. 9-11.

Speaking of conspiracy theories. Oh. Yeah. Oh, no. Which one? Sometimes I forget I'm in America. Yeah. And I'm like, I could have this conversation anywhere in the UK.

Maybe not here. No, we don't. We never forgot here. Yeah, we don't. Okay. So I'm not even going to go there then Anyway, so Buffalo, what else about Buffalo? Wings.

I mean, okay, let's talk. Let's talk wings. So it's not technically in Buffalo, but East Aurora. Bar Bill is probably my favorite wing in the world. Am I wrong? Does anybody think I'm wrong? It's up there. Adolfs is Adolfs as good as bad.

I'm going to fucking Adolfs. That's devastating. Adolfs is good. We said it. We got it. Did we ever get the clearance on... Is it... It's not him, Adolf.

I can't think of another watch. It's an Irish bar. Adolf... Adolf McHitt. Wait, 20s? So this is pre... So this is when Adolf was still like... Yeah, but even...

In the charts on the baby... Yeah, but once that bad boy came out, you had to change your... Brother, it's okay. Yeah. You've aged Adolf. That's it. It's the same.

I know one aid off, and at this point I know two Luigi's, and that's it. Wow. Damn. So that's one of them personally. That's all Buffalo. That's Buffalo. What else you got? Sports.

Sports. Are you a football head? I like UK football. To be honest, me, the pandemic killed it for me. When they started beaming in, like, crowd noise, it would be a lot. minded me of the pandemic so much that I just turned that part of my brain off. What about like cricket? You guys fucking love that.

I think is cricket not after soccer football the biggest sport in the world? In the world? Yeah, it's huge in India, billion people. Come on. PCP, too. They, like, I'm fine with cricket. Cricket in the UK is like, it's what posh people play. I never really got into it or understood it.

Did you know what a single cricket game can last days? Days. It's so stupid. Yeah, football has 16 regular games a season. It's incredible. So it's just over. It's over. 16 games.

16 games. Right? 17 games. Including home and away. Like home and away games or total. And then it's and then the... Yeah, but how long is a game? fucking eight hours.

Like three? Yeah, but it's, they wait all week for this month. Right. You throw the ball a bit and then you walk a bit more. Listen. And then sometimes you go back and then you walk. We're not going to get in the,

you're going on Sunday. I'm going on my baptism. I'm going on Sunday. All sports is essentially, give me that ball. Yeah, but ours is like ball net goal. That's hockey. Yours is.

It's hockey. It's basketball. The fucking going back. backwards and all that shit. Yeah, it's awesome. Is it? No, it's the thing.

If I understood it, I think I think it was awesome. Big dudes. Yeah. Fucking shouting. Yeah. Like, I'm in. Yeah.

I think, conceptually, I'm fucking in, but I just don't understand it. Craig loves sports. That was sports. Big sport guy. What do we got?

Tell us out. Whoa. Best big dudes. Best big dudes. Thanks. Thank you, How much? Who are the best big dudes?

Ronnie Coleman. I'm looking forward to seeing the butcher of Buffalo Andy Williams' mom. It was his birthday. Yesterday. That is the one answer to that question. That's the best guy ever. My bench. Combined is like...

I hit a $2.50 once. One of my favorite... $2.25 is my max. Same. One of my favorite things that James has ever said on stage is during like a technical issue. His favorite big dude number two, though, should be. He's up there.

Go on. Sorry, I just snapped into PTSD. Someone yelled out, you know, how much can you bet? James just said, more than you. Perfect. That's a good. So that was that. That was best big dudes.

Andy Williams. What you got? First big dudes. There's this fucking wrestler Brody King. Dude. Guy will not leave me alone. It's unbelievable. He's obsessed with me.

The worst big dudes is any man sitting in the middle seat on an air pad. Whoa. Broody King exclusively, sis. His name is Tim Lambie. Oh. Wow. Fucking easy. That's like a scientific fact.

Don't do that. Yeah, done. Wow. He's got to be desperate to fight him. Top worst. Really? Damn, desperate. I feel like we could make that happen.

I feel like I just did. Yeah, no, you did. I think he just killed him on live show. No, he's not good at the killing. Oh. That's how I know I'd win. That's true. So that's the worst big dude.

What do we got? One more time. I wanted to hear Fortnite. Did I hear Fortnite? I think you did. Don't get me so. Frankly. Red 40.

Red 40. I know. You're really into that. Tell me about it. It makes me crazy. What is it? Now, hold on. What do you mean?

My favorite conspiracy theory is that Red 40, like, affects me, like, almost like a drug, like, hyperactivity. So have you ever gotten, like, food coloring and just drank it? No, like, a lot of tackies, though. As many as I can fucking eat. Have you had the Trader Joe's tacking? Talking? I bet you they don't have Red Tachies. don't have Red 40.

Fuck. Trader Joe's is great. Property is like real health. Wasn't, is it Red 40 not vegan? It's not vegan. It's got bug in it. I think R.

It's got bug in it. F in it. Bug. Give a shit. You think it's bad. You think there's some shit in there. That's not good. Do they not have Red 40 in the UK?

Maybe it's illegal in the UK. It's got to be fucking awesome. Yeah. No, that's what I mean. Why do you think I'm fucking here, bro? And then I land. And then I find. out like yesterday, RFK is like

we're getting red red 40? Dude, that's all the shit. That's all from a Farity account. All that shit. It's from a parody account. Really? Yeah. If you go to the account it's RFK parody. Diet Coke is never leaving. Do you guys remember?

Thank you. Thank you. Do you guys remember when we were younger? What was the yellow? Yellow 5? It like destroyed your sperm count. That was like in fifth grade. Like, oh my God. Wait, what does? Yellow 5, another dye. Did it actually, or that was the rumor?

It was total rumor. You know what I was thinking about the other day? There's a rumor, free internet, that we had in school and you guys had in school. The Marilyn Manson with the rib thing? How? That's like you're going to be around. I mean, he must have done it. Honestly, there's no smoke without fire.

Like, why? Dude, the surgeon called his buddy. The next day, he was like, dude. I did the craziest fucking thing today It's fucking crazy There's lots of ones There's a Rod Stewart one

I think sometimes The Rips? Yeah Who knows the Rod Stewart one Say the word Yeah Supposed he had to have His stomach pumped

Because he swallowed so much What would that even do though Couldn't tell you dude Not Protein overload Yeah what Rod Stewart Rod Stewart

Rod Stewart Yeah, if you... Rod. Yeah, great. Rod. Someone's made that rumor. Just look, I'm going to think of a rumor for a celebrity. Come.

Come on. Come, I guess. Drag a bunch of come. Yeah, come guy. Yeah, there you go. That's another one. That one was like, I feel that was reported. Like, the Maron and Manson one, it wasn't like a mutual magazine.

magazine. It was like pre-internet. It wasn't like fucking Corang's not doing articles about fucking Mariner Manson not happening. But we all knew. No, but I do think like my mom still is subscribed to Rolling Stone. Okay. So growing up every month, but always have Rolling Stone.

And I do think there was like rumored to have had, you know, body altering surgery. I do think they kind of leaned in. But we didn't have Rolling Stone. So at some point, all we had was the truth, Craig. One person. Exactly.

The truth will out. At some point, someone came from America. One person is responsible for coming to the UK and going, Go to the American person. So, no, what? Had a rib-remove so he could suck himself off. And then he just went, You, he fucking war.

Say that again? I can't. I can't. I can't do it. It was like, say it. Good twice. But you did it away from the mic. I can't summon it.

again. You did. It's gone. It was away from the mic. Thank you. Thank you. What's the next word? What was that one for? Are you killing time with this bit? Because I got bits. Oh, this is good. Give me a bit. I'm not killed it. I'm like a long bit, though. I'm making art. You got the same jeans on there. Nice jeans.

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Yeah, we're in part two. I'll do my bit. Yeah, we're doing it. We're due two truths and a lie. Right? Yeah, I just want to know what this is first. Those are cookies. From X-Crome X, Vermont. There we go. get some of the looks. Yeah, of course. Fuck, yeah. If I could smell them from here, I honestly

could smell the cookie. You want to do me two trees on the line? Yeah. Individually or separately. Individually. That's the same word, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, those were... I had three shots before I came here and now, nursing this one. You want to go from here? Who's going

first? Bow goes first. All right. Ready? Hit me. I was partially scalped when I was six years old in a car accident. I, in 2006, met then-Senator Barack Obama and shook his hand in Grant Park in Chicago. And I've never had a cavity in my life. A lot to unpack. One of those is not true. I'm going to start at the back. How many times a day do you brush your teeth?

Twice. Morning night. Does anyone brush their teeth once a day here? No, at last... I mean, no, don't know what's right? Nine out of ten dentists. No, what's up? That one other dentist, we don't know... I feel like it's a uniquely American thing.

Twice a day? Once a day. I've only ever seen it from American people. Come on. Once a day's crazy, go. We, like, created dental hygiene. I know. You would think we have dodgy fucking teeth.

We're twice a fucking day. Yeah. We do twice. Twice about any flossing? I don't floss as regularly as I should. You water pick? You water pick? I did.

I got a water pick once. I made a mess, man. I don't know how you worked that thing. You closed the trick. It was fucking chaos. It was your mouth around it. So it's like a... Yeah.

It's incredible. Isn't that just mouthwash? No. It's like a rose. It's a thing. It's a floss. I mean. But hey, never had a cavity.

When was the last time you went to the dentist? Dude. So. when you were talking about healthcare, I haven't had insurance since 2018. So I am one cavity away from being financially ruined. But it would be 20, 2021, 2022. How much is a cavity here? I couldn't tell me.

I never had one. Thousands of dollars. Like what? Has anyone had one? Like how much? How much we're talking? $1,300. $1,300 to be a king.

England? $3,300. Okay. So you could still have a cavity now, but we don't know. Sure. Fair enough. Okay. Never had a conferred cavity.

Never had a filling or anything. How did you introduce yourself to Barack Obama? I said, hello. He shook my dumb little hand. I was a junior in high school. Straight, just straight hello. Yeah, he was like in a line. Literally that key and peel scene.

That was all. Good to meet you. Did someone tell you who he was or you knew who he was? He was our state senator. So you kind of knew who he was, you know. Why did you shake his hand? Because they're a state senator. How old were you?

If I was a junior, I would have been 17. Oh, you're doing like deduction and stuff. I like it. It's good. You're sneaky. What do you mean? You're doing like math to figure out the answer. I figured out a magician.

I've also figured out as a 17-year-old if I would shake a politician's hand. It was, I was out on a school thing. It wasn't really. It was just kind of like, oh, and it was also, at that time, it was rumored that he was going to be running for president. There was a lot of rip-or-man. But before the rib, like, the American sentiment was much different pre. We had hope. Pre-Trump.

We had, the hope and change posters were unbelievable. They really worked. We were like, this is the guy. I have him waived. You know that was Shepard Ferry? Like that does. And they just took it. They didn't pay him for it.

He got fucked over. Typical politics. I'm sorry, shaking their hand. What was the first one again? I got scalped when I was six years old in a car accident. November 14th, 1999. It's real specific. Or was it?

Could be to throw me off. The reason I know the date, and I actually, while I was preparing this, I checked on it, there was a solar eclipse that day. Just happened to be a solar eclipse. And it actually was just, everything went dark and the car crashed. You can't do anything. When as soon as it's

nighttime, my mom drives, like, were you in the car with your mom? Yeah, she was driving. I was in the backseat in the middle because the passenger seat belt had broken. So imagine. Craig, I gotta be honest, I don't know which one is the lot.

Yeah, this is great. My detective era. Okay, what do you mean by, like, partially scalps? Like, how does that happen? So, what I purposely sat where I sat because the side of my head that you can't see is the side that had happened on. A piece of glass shaved off my scalp,

and it was hanging off of my head. I didn't, I don't remember pain. I don't remember much of it. But I got 64 stitches in a six-year-old head. You can't cheat. I can also open my mouth and show you pearly whites. Why can't you see? Because it's all on this side.

You see those teeth. You can see it. What about the tea? You said it was all on this side. I know. I don't want him to know what he's actually factual or not. I did that. But I kicked him with a head.

I still couldn't see that. I thought it was a poorly dumb faith. Yeah, yeah. I didn't really. It was just, that's my thing I'm most terrified about. The US barbers. You got to find a good one. There's probably 19 of a nice room.

You got to be nice. Back to me. More about me. Figure it out, buddy. Trying to do a barber bit. I'm trying to just get a free haircut. I feel like Obama's the lie. Final answer?

Yeah, there was holes in the story. He's good. Yeah. I hate that fucker. Never met him. But I was scalped, and I have never had a cavity. So just a minute you were like, your 17-year-old kid into metal, I assume you were into metal back then,

or are you fucking going to shake a politician's hand? Yeah. You're not fucking... Well, he's from the L'A. I wouldn't believe that, just geographically. I didn't... I had met Barak. didn't have a backstory.

I made all that other. Don't. Very good. Well, not him, but pretty good. You want to do mine? Not him. They go for the . Colin says he has something on here

that he's never said before. Yeah. I don't know. It could be a lie, though. We don't know. Hit me. I was in a professional production of a Christmas Carol once.

Pro. I took Alpera 1 four times. I was only. I almost held back from kindergarten because I couldn't stop putting my hands in my pants. Let's start there. Fair. How many times were you doing it? Every day.

Every day. Every time today, Mrs. Gustafson had to come over to my table. Mrs. Gustafson? Crazy name. Had to come and yanking the pants. I just, you know, I didn't go to preschool. I skipped preschool. So I missed some social things.

That's where to teach all the pants. What do you mean you missed preschool? I didn't go to it. I didn't do it. My mom wanted to hang out more. Sick. So I'm in kindergarten. I don't know that that's weird.

I don't know that that's wrong. Nobody's telling us wrong. It's warm. It's just warm. It's cold. What did you say? What were you and your mom up to? Viving.

So you skipped the first one. Straight in with like, this is what I do all day. Yeah. And that's normal? I mean, it was to me. I learned very quickly it wasn't. It was like, hey, you're going to have to do kindergarten again if you don't stop doing this. Okay.

I stopped You stopped I've gone two hours Were you like Were you like Jorking it Were you like straight jacking? No no no

It was just like I would just have one in there Just kind of like I feel like I do that all this Yeah I see all the time You were just This middle-aged man In preschool

I was five So I thought You could do stuff That felt comfortable Everywhere You know what is crazy And Slightly dicey again.

When you're like five, and you're a boy. Yeah. Weird shit would give you a bono. Wind. Weird. Yeah, yeah. Just, well. Yeah.

But you know what mine was? Yeah. Stealing. Stealing? That's why you got the, you got the naughty British accent. Oh, I'm fucked. You got the bad. I used to rob stuff.

Wow. And it would get my little. Kidding hard. Really? Yeah. Wow. America. Fuck.

Yeah. And you know what? You wouldn't think that would turn into like a fetish for stealing. Yeah. Just went away. Interesting. Yeah. See, I made it hard in kindergarten when I was doing this.

Good? Good then? Probably why they kept you there. All right. What were the other ones? I took algebra one four times. I don't know what algebra one is. It's seven plus X equals 10.

What is it solve for X? It took me four tries. Three. Is the answer three? I wasn't as an algebra. And there's the problem. Wait, we don't think we had algebra. Huh?

I remember seeing it on like movies and you guys would add letters into your numbers. And I remember thinking like, the fuck is that? I'm fairly certain England had algebra. But I don't know. Maybe I never passed it. You're too busy stealing and then jacking offing. Too busy, yeah. wanking

wanking over stealing okay so you took it how many times four times and it's like basic bullshit yeah it took me four times well I'll be honest with you the third time I got a sea which would have been enough but my mom thought colleges

wouldn't be psyched on the sea so I took it a fourth time in 50s is that four chung and software no it was eighth grade I got I got to see the first time and that wasn't enough where you're able to Your pants or not.

No, no, I'm good. I'm good now. I'm cured. Okay. Sure. Okay. What was number one? I was in a professional production of a Christmas carol once.

Okay, you emphasized professional. Very professional. Okay, so what defines professional there? The biggest theater production company in the state of Connecticut. The Hartford Stage, it's called. Hartford Stage. What character are you? The Turkey Boy.

At first, Well, complicated. The turkey boy, and then the turkey boy, and then Peter Cratchett, who is Tiny Tim's older brother, he had some trouble, so they needed me to replace him. You stepped up. Had to, man. Yeah.

It was too late to the production. That was a lie. You think that's the lie? You've come at it. You came at it like it's a lie. No, like it's so much the truth that I think is the lie. Is that your final answer? No, because now you look so pleased with yourself.

Your little booies, I was fucking raised. He was like... No, listen. Yeah, yeah, go on in. I'll say that's a lie. You are right. Yeah. I was in a professional production of a Christmas Carol twice.

Well, no, no, no. First year, I was the turkey boy, and I fucking killed it. So I got a promotion to Peter. Cratchett the second year. So you got my trick question very well. So good, John. Okay, good. I have a question specifically for you. How many instruments

you play? Three of them? The three of them. This is on the recorder. Recorder's gone. You got drums, I guess, singing. Yeah. Lose turn. Oh, you're a singer, I quite a good thing. You're good at seeing. Bass is my best one, maybe. It's crazy.

Okay, so what, we're taking those three? And guitar. He played two. Four. I give you three. Pick a Bigotth, though, but guitar. Guitar, drums, bass, that's full of the same. I don't know what singing in there as well. You want singing. Because I want to, fuck.

If you can play guitar, you can play bass. Let's do guitar, singing, drums. Sure. Fuck Mary, kill. Those two. Oh, kill singing. Try. Make sure to check out touching tongues tomorrow.

It's the, it's the, it's the, the hardest one, you know? It's, it's the scariest of the three, because if you do a bad job, everything sucks and if you're if the set isn't great you have to lie 30 minutes soon now isn't the risk to reward more 100% if a show is better you're the guy you're all the guy they did that but the the reward of playing guitar if is sometimes it's fun just hearing it you know hearing loud guitar and I'm not caring what's going on is awesome chugs palm muting so I would probably the chugs on their own panned?

Dude, unbelievable. So I would fuck guitar. Yeah. I would marry drums. Oh, now who loves drums?

They were my first. It's your first love. You were my first love? Your first love. So you do love drums? I do. I don't like practicing them. I like...

You want to marry them for the money and then just do nothing. Whereas I marry them, we're fucking every night. Yeah. You're the... They're the trophy drums. You're the...

You're working your ass off. Okay, good. Are you playing more than one instrument? Talented man like this guy? Like me, you're fucking, I've got one and done. I like my cats a lot. Computer games. No, I mostly just play guitar, and I had an electronic kit for a bit.

I can play drums, but I can't play anywhere near like you guys. You've heard the impression of him playing. Is that your impression of him playing drums? No, I'm sure he's better than that. You've seen me. That's just my... He doesn't really watch me play on your kid. You're all right.

You're pretty good. You can go. That is the annoying thing about drums. It's like what you have to do to get really good, 99% of the population don't care. And they see someone just go, boom, cat, boom, are that guy plays drums? Yeah, but dude, some of those boom cat guys,

like the, what's Green Day, Trey Cool? Yeah, Lars Ulrich. Lars. Dude, Trey is so much better than you would ever expect to you. Oh, 100%. It's insane. So is a lot. Well, that's a fact.

Good. The band ain't the same with them. Good. What was I going to say? What I was going to say is a lot of people, too, think, like me, I think when I air drum and I know Phil, I can fucking play drums. I can just don't want to set them up. Tom Williams. If Tom has fucking gone to do some shit, I can throw him under the bus even more.

Tom once had a bet in the studio. There was a really hard section on the Australia thing. And Tom, like, fucking. confident manager Tom voice just goes I could do that in 100 takes and it was like this like I think it was like 190

BPM double kick guy doesn't play fucking drums at all it was like a and he was like I could do that in 100 takes and I was like no you could we had a full argument

because he was fully fucking convinced sat him down 100 takes just dog shit just fucking not even close but the confidence this man had Yeah

The comment and I could fucking do that That's the same what you're talking Did you almost believe him? Air drum in There was, I think if Steve Siders in here He was tracking it at the time There was one like Maybe the seventh one in

Where I was sweating Like the cat Uh oh one Like one random one I went oh fuck Cath and America Moving the hammer a little bit Yeah yeah

Oh fuck he might have this And then it was just toilet after that Okay Boo Yeah That's it got your fucking what's his

what do you want him to fuck her marry he didn't and that's not even part of my bit I was just I wanted yours because I get annoyed

that you can sing and I can't sing just do it I mean I some most still say I can't so it's fine it's okay

you just have to you just got to read the comments yeah yeah yeah it's fun do you read

comments on your shit yeah yeah I read yeah I love it you go to battle huge fucking fan of I can't

We can't do it. You can't do it. You can't do it. You're not, we don't have the will. I don't have the will to have active beef with YouTube drone guys. Oh, I love it. I know. It's like my favorite, like when I'm bored, I do it because it's just fun.

I can get a hundred compliments in a day and be like, all right, I can get one negative thing in a year. And I'll think about it. So this is the trick. You just make sure all the comments are bad. It's like 99% you've got a shit little weird haircut. you're a little fucking prick, we can't hear what you're talking about. Like, whatever. And then I was like, well, this is just fun.

Everyone hates me anyway. It's fucking fun. That's strength. But I did, my favorite thing recently was when I launched the stageflight thing, Lamb Goat did a post about the stageflight thing and the Lamb goat comments, because normally it's either about the band or it's YouTube comments about me. But this was just, I've never had a full Lamb goat post just about me. knee.

So it was really like 40 comments of just pure fucking hate. I was like, this is awesome. Genuinely, some really funny shit on there. Yeah. Really funny stuff. I'm laughing about it still. Yeah. It's hard for me.

Wait, have you got lamb goate? No, no. Oh, we've all been goaded before. They'll get you, man. Those comments sections are goaded, though. I think that the most hateful ones are people that we know personally. 100%. And that is heartbreaking.

I can't have that. I agree. I've started commenting as myself. Oh, Craig Reynolds here. There's the bit, yeah, there's the bit on Lamgo. Yeah. But I've started commenting as myself and then just posting absolutely insane shit or actually how I feel to the point where it's like,

now you can't tell which ones are me and what's true. Well, now it's out there. Yeah. So I want people. Go and post on Lamgo. Craig Reynolds here. and then just make sure it's funny. Yeah.

That's cheese. I think it's, you want to do Q&A time? I love you and A. Q&A. So here's what we have in mind. If you have questions, you're going to line up by that camera.

Behind that camera, so you don't block that camera. And then one at a time, come up to the podium. The mic is on. And make it good. Don't make me call names. That's all I ask.

No, everyone's going to do it because of the, get up on another. Is it? intimidating. There we go there. There we go there. See, John.

Yeah, that's right. After you. Please do line up. First up, beautiful orange hat. Test that mic for me, brother. Nice test. Nice test. Rob's freaking.

We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. It'll be so. Try it again, brother. No, nice. Almost. Fuck.

No? Oh, there we go. We got you. That work? Hang on. We got you. Yeah, we're good. We're good.

We're good. I think I killed it a couple of times anyway. This is for Craig. For Craig. Obviously. Stray versus Kubla Khan street fight. Who wins and why? Yeah, I feel like we win.

Are you taking Matt? Yeah, he's like a nice little cuddly bear, though. He's literally the sweetest man outside. You know they're carrying, though. What? They're carrying. Yeah, he said street fight. Yeah, but when you think about it, they're definitely all shut.

Every single fucking one of them. However, I've seen Dragon Neck from Stray do some really quite horrible shit. Drew's just come back from six weeks in Thailand doing Hoy Thai. I think Stray's got it. Thank you. What was your name? Well, your name was Luigi? Okay.

Polaris. Thank you, Luigi. I love the mic. Is that mic? No, Rob's still working on the mic. It's all right. Is anybody from the venue here? Nice. Hello. Wait, no one from the venues here. I guess not. What's your name? My name's Carolee. Carolee. Carolee. Hi, friend. Hi, I know you. Yeah, I don't fucking know you. Oh, I'm going to get canceled. We're going to get canceled. Okay, question. Okay, so question for everybody. You're building your own super band, dead or live members, who is your lineup in your own band? It's going to be hard to beat the one we did already.

But I think we should just do that again. Just dancing. Yeah, yours was just dancing. Yeah, I was going to say, like, in my head, it's just nine-inch nails. That's good. Not to be a rule that you're not allowed to pick nine-inch nails. I know, or typo-negative. You're not allowed to pick either one.

Oh. Like anybody in them? No. Okay. Okay, let me build one real quick. Trent Reznor Aticus Ross. He is Steve. Let's throw John Barnum on drums.

Okay, easy. Is that all the instruments? I mean, Trent and Atacus will cover whichever one's on there. Then we go, oh, wait, I need... Oh, that's fine. You know, too. I need some synths. Hans Zimmer.

Oh, you scummed. Best band of all five times. Trent, I don't know what you're saying. A singer would be... Glenn Danzig. You get Glenn. Yeah. You took Glenn.

I'm taking Clint. I got Richie. Your band is... Yeah. We did this before. My band was called Danzig. His band was called... What's it?

What was that? What was that? It's very symbolic. I don't remember who was in it. So I'll just do a new one. I'll do new one. Richie from Into Another Underdog singing. Sick.

Guitar player would be Taylor Young. Bass player would be... Colin Young. No. I'm not in this one. I'm a fan. Harley Flanagan. Drummer would be Jason Bittner from Sigma.

And Shadow's Fall? Yeah. It's a good band. I think mine was Danzig singing Peter on bass. Chuck Biscuits on drums. And Paris, I could take a thing. It's dancing. It's dancing.

Did you have band names on me? Yeah, mine was... Yeah, his was... What would yours be? Adolf. Just clip that. Use that as a clip. You can kill me immediately.

Peter Steele would have loved that. Yeah. Thank you, Rob. Rob, rock, rock, rock, rock. What's going on, boys? How are you? What's your name? Doing well?

Wade. Wade. Wade, what you got for us? All right. This is a little bit meta, and I might have to single someone out, so we can strike this if you don't want to talk about this. But one of you has IBS. Could be. Yes or no?

Yeah. Go for. So I have a friend, wife, also has IBS. Her question. Also. What are you? What's it? Well, her question is, how the hell as a touring guy and just being.

all over the place all the time. How the hell do you manage that? It's constant. It's constant. It's constant. Right. Pain is constant and sharp. She is in fear 24-7. Well, it's mostly self-inflicted.

Ah. I could, there's a few dietary changes I could make that I refuse to make. That would solve absolutely everything. But as you see, I got a nice medicated pack of yellow wipes in there that just keep me, keep me good. Dude, stand on your laurels, man. Yeah, I shit on my laurels. And then real quick one for maybe everybody, please someone back me up on this because I read it once, did no more research, and now I'm here. Lobsters, I know we were talking about this on the last hard lore pod, lobsters don't die.

They have no natural. No natural, yeah, like their DNA. What do you mean? They are like, they're finding lobsters that have been marked. from like early 1900s that show i thought that was jellyfish jellyfish are biologically immortal unless like a predator kills them and lobsters just straight up immortal yeah that's what they're finding i i saw that too so so we feel a little eating them sometimes not that my surprise yeah whatever's going on in the ocean is none of my concern doing them a favor then because otherwise it'd be

overrun with lobsters that's my excuse yeah that's fine all right Well, thanks, boys. Shout out Oakland. Shout out Oakland Metro. Fucking soon. Oh, yeah. You got to those guys. Let's go. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. You wait. Mr. Jean Jacket is coming to ask us. What's your name? My name's Josh. First of all, I pay my tall guy tax in sciatica, not with actual cash. It's good.

Pain. Pain, pain. We'll say pain. In and out of, like, chiropractic and everything. It doesn't even help. It doesn't work. What's your body count? I'll just say double digits.

I mean, I think... Yeah, there we go. You're paying... I'm sorry. It comes with it. You're six, five? Fuck off. This is the...

The amount of times, that's the response to me actually saying, like... Yeah, you don't... From a far, angle is deceptive. I don't want to stand up, man. Yeah, no.

You ever sit in the middle seat? No. No, I'm not that bad. Like, even when I'm in the front seat, I would try to pull my seat up as much as I can. Yeah. And I'm just scrunched up. Like, you're okay?

I'm like, damn. No. Me too. It's so rare to meet another 6'5 guy. That's crazy. What's you got for us? My question was, because I've been a drummer and seeing Craig play has made me want to quit playing drums.

And I just wanted to ask each one of you guys, has there been a performance where you guys consider just throwing in the towel being like, no freaking way I'm not even doing this? Like of our own or of a peer or something? Anybody. Anybody? Yeah. There's an album called Disharmony.

that was close to the end there for all things. What about you guys? The tour I did with the broken back when my legs just straight up weren't working, I was like, I was stopped doing it. Same thing. Same thing. It broke my heart.

In terms of like seeing other drummers, nothing's really made me want to stop playing, but in doing the podcast, I recently interviewed this guy, Tosh that they get to fill in for like machine gun Kelly, Fallout boy and all this shit. And like off the record, he's like 23.

That's not off the record. That's on the record. But off the record, he told me how much money he was making. And I was like, oh my, if someone had told me what he was doing at 23, when I was 23,

I would have just immediately stopped. Yeah. That is nothing. Did you do tricks and stuff? me. Yeah. I can do, no, I fucking hate all of that. But you got one.

Okay. What were you going to say? I was going to say, you do a thing where you will kind of, if it's a four-four, you'll like play off on purpose. I don't know how else to describe it. But it's so cool. I don't know, like a beat thing or a movement. You'll like, God, I want to sound like an idiot.

But if the beat is boots, ah, boots, boots. You're like, poots, ah, you'll like, poots. Oh, yeah, like a, you'll just. just do shit in the middle of a groove that I think is really cool. Metric modulation. Thank you. Oh, I appreciate that. I'm just being honest up here.

Thank you. Great question. Thanks. Go bills. Thank you. Now he looks tall. He looks very tall now. I got a piece.

We got the Boygas, the Boyga family. What's up, y'all? Oh, wow. Look at that shirt. A Wolfnote shirt. That was Boas solo project band. Wolfnote is how you actually. Everyone always wears your stuff.

I love it. I appreciate it. Thanks, y'all. Jonathan swears that this is not an emo band, but it spoke to my emo soul. Oh, it's probably the most emotional I've ever been in my whole life, brother. My question, because you've explicitly mentioned it before. Uh-oh. And this goes out to anybody, if you've seen the show.

Of the four, the best Christmas cut episode from the O.C. Yes. This is all you. Is, no, am I wrong in that the Wonder Woman? Outfit one is a Christmas episode? The first one. That's the best one. Okay.

100%. That makes the whole show. Because Summer finally reciprocates Seth's feelings a little bit enough, where that he sees hope in it. But Anna's then. And Anna's establishing herself as the female version of Seth and thus the perfect counterpart for him. And then she even goes back to him. You had me as Wonder Woman and you let me go. But then, but then, you know, opposites attract and there's something beautiful to that.

And then you realize that Summer and Seth were meant to be all along. which really leads to a terrible last season a finale because of the way things come back around great show yes

awesome great question thank great question thank you what the fuck America baby television

we you guys got you guys got losing much on NBC there we got beautiful network scripted dramas anybody partner what's your name

Colin I'm wrong Ron. Colin and Bo, this is specifically for you. As a former straight edge, my young stepson is here embarrassed of me. Sell him on being straight edge for life. How old is it? Right now. 14. 14 is when I claimed edge younger steps.

What's his name? That's just going to obeying the law. No. That's the goofiest thing. That's the goofiest thing. It is, but I was never more impressionable than I was it from 14 to 21. you know?

I was never around more like... Also, tell me... You're in my friend's parents' garages than when we were kids. Come on. Here's the thing. I said Adolf out of context. What are you going to call your band? Adolf.

That's not going anywhere. Here's the thing about straight age at a young age. I think we can both agree. You were 14. I was 13. I think there is probably no more a greater influence on the person I turned out to be, but it has very little, in my opinion, to actually do with, like, minor threat or, like, knowing some bullshit. It was just, like, this group of people and this style of music that I identified with, and I found sanctity in. And I think if you could identify with that, and you can find a place to relieve yourself, maybe some pressures that you might be feeling.

What do they got now, vapes? They got vapes all over the place. Dude. Yeah. You vape us. You're tearing society apart. Steer clear that vape. Go to shows.

Listen to Earth crisis. It's right. Thank you, Ron. It's a deeply personal thing. So if you personally feel like that's the thing for you. Also, my dad smokes more weed than any living person. And he'll be ripping. He'll be like,

straight is best, man. Yeah, that's the thing, though, isn't it? Like California sober? Yeah, we know. I don't subscribe to that. Yeah, but caffeine. Shut that. Don't start.

Caffeine rules. It doesn't affect my... If I wish I could smoke weed and I think if I smoked weed, I wouldn't drink. But I can't do weed because I'm crazy. Oh. Oh. Yeah. I've heard that.

Annoying, yeah. I heard that. That you're crazy. Come on up. What does that say? I can't read. I think it says Pavell. It's an Eastern Europe. Hamilt. Yes, sir.

Very cool. What's your name? My name's Ryan. Ryan, nice to meet you. It's going on, Bo. Hey. Going on, Craig. Nice.

It's going on. Nailed it. What you got for us? I have a couple things, actually. Let's do it. So, this is for everyone, but mostly for the Hard Lord duo. You guys performed a lot in this beautiful city of Buffalo, New York. A lot of venues, a lot of times over the years.

What are some? favorite memories from here just at shows or just off or anything like that? The funeral home was fucking awesome. The funeral home was really sick. One time I was playing with a full stack with a

JCM-800 that I just got. Jordan, I just got it. I literally that weekend and the stage was rocking and the whole fucking full stack fell off the back of the stage. The input jack broke at the head. It was a fucking mess. I got

that head from the gin blossoms. Yeah. It's a sick head. I never took it on tour ever again. It lived and died at the funeral home only. But that video was sick. It was.

There was a, Evan, maybe you were there. You can confirm. There was a, I think it was the Code Orange tour. There was a venue where there's an upstairs stage and a downstairs stage. The waiting room. So we're playing the waiting room, have the best set we've ever had in Buffalo. Downstairs, there is a, funeral memorial

karaoke night for this guy who apparently listened to nothing but fucking bangers so all his friends are doing like fucking love you dude and then they're ripping into collective soul and like Allison

Chains like he they must have been a straight up like karaoke club everybody ripped it so after we played I'm there all night at this guy's funeral watching every single one of his friends sing all of my favorite times so shout out to that guy he died

so big buffalo guy it all blows into one for me the cold bit of america i put this in there Chicago and this where else Canada that's all one thing to me so I lump it all in love it all that's it I've got nothing

that's great lakes baby You got snow there in the UK? Fuck, yeah. We've got so much snow. Cool, cool. Every time I've ever been to Buffalo, though, it's been snowing every time. It's just like summer exists. It feels like the...

Is this year round? I actually don't know. Is this like Alaska? Yeah. There we go. It's part of Alaska. Snow is my favorite bit. Beautiful.

Before I go, yeah. Speaking of, member of the audience, Evan, what movie did you see with Evan, calling. What do we see together, everyone? Was it Justice League?

What a piece of shit, huh? Throw breath. Throw breath was good. That was, uh, was that Anton Yelkin's last movie? Is that who was in it? Yeah, not this shit. Yeah.

That sounds like him. I thought about a thing that Kale did, and this is like, this is, uh, we just, ooh, I'll get there. We just passed the one... Ooh.

One year anniversary of him passing, but there's something that he used to do all the time. He couldn't hear at all. It was awesome. Deeply damn. He had the hearing of like a 90-year-old man or something, like scientifically proven.

And he would do this thing where he would be looking at you smiling and nodding while you were talking. Like, just say something. Yeah. After this, I think we're going to get some wings. Probably. I got a piece so bad.

What? So that was it. It's a kale. Yeah. Thanks for that. I appreciate that. Thank you. For making me cry.

Got a couple more. Got time for a few more here. Hello again. Hello again. You in Brooklyn. I know. Nice to see you. Good.

You want to state your name? I'm Carissa. So there's always a lot of discourse on the internet. I know that's surprising. Really? Yeah. It's news to me. But I want to know for all of you,

what is one thing that is not by definition hardcore alternative that you would consider hardcore adjacent oh well there's there's stuff you know there's like title fight is an obvious one oh you mean music music any piece of media could be anything oh okay power tools power tools big time yeah Right. Dude. What do you got at home? Listen, I got to tell you this. You're Milwaukee man?

Yeah, I know you're a big TikTok shop guy. Yeah, yeah. So I got two Ryobi drills. Yeah, right? Same drill. Uh-huh. But they got me with this fucking electric screwdriver ad. I love it.

Dude, you know the ad where they're like, feel bad for anybody that paid full price for this? Because it's less than a cup of coffee now. Yeah. Yeah. Watch that and go, this is an incredible news. Yeah. You got it fully in- I'm just to say I need this. Yeah.

So I buy this fucking electric screwdriver. And then I'm building my PC and realizing the drill. Well, first of all, you shouldn't drill this. I didn't know until after that you're not supposed to drill while you're building your PC. That it can't fit on the stuff. Like it's too thick to get to these screws. But this electric screwdriver. Yes, sir.

Like a fucking glove. Like a little perfect little globe. So if you're on the TikTok, Sean, and you get an ad for this stupid little electric screwdriver, just know it's not stupid at all. And your life will be different after. Power tools. I'm saying power tools and I'm putting jet, like power washing in there as well

because that's so sick. Yeah. Even like just a real good shower spray that will get rid of all the, like, fucking, like get rid of all the gunk and stuff. You see it like bubbling and it does all the work. To me, that's a great answer. To me, that's adjacent to heavy music. What do you got?

It's pretty hardcore adjacent, I would say. Yeah. What do you got? You got nothing? I listed off title fight. Oh, that's a band. You got to name an object. Let me think of an object.

Oh, just an object. Yeah, like a thing. Like something like that's like, damn, that's pretty, it's pretty HC. Really good ball of ramen. That's fucking way better than any. Oh, no parking, double stairwell, no loaders. That's about this. I'm just thinking of things that I would mosh to that I'm not.

But not music. Like when you get a really fucking good bowl of ramen, I'm like, I could fucking mash. Oh. Hmm. You know what never happens, but happen to us for the first time? You know when you get,

you have a connecting flight? Done about 10 this week. Okay. So that connecting flight is never anywhere near where you currently landed. Sometimes it's the next gateover. Once in a long time, it's the next gate over.

And Macon, I'm a damn near about cried yesterday. What'd you do with all your time? Don't worry about it. Travel. Don't worry about what we do. The worst thing about that, if you're talking about touring, is when you talk to people who don't tour, and they're like, oh, connected flight, that's not so bad. They don't realize, like, if you're doing a big tour, there's many climates, and you've got to wear that big jacket in the airport.

Yeah. Even if it's summer, if you're ending up in somewhere that's cold, you have to wear the big jacket. so the airport becomes this whole just sweat fest. It doesn't matter what you're doing. I set off every detector because I'm sweating so profusiness. Every airport, airplane, public place on the earth should be 64 degrees. Thank you. There's a moshable object of fucking air conditioner.

Yeah. You've got this psyched to finally handle it. Top fucking five. It's the things by U.S. things and its number, Number one is love. That's fine. It doesn't matter. Number two is air conditioning. Yeah. We don't have it.

Number three is being able to dry my clothes. Oh. We don't have dryers in the UK. People don't believe us when we say this. Real. We literally don't have dryers. We're all privileged. And then 5% vapes and red 40.

Both of those are illegal in the UK for good reason. Hey, welcome. Thanks. We're happy to happen. That's a great question. Good question. Thank you. Air conditioning and power tools.

and total fight. All right, thanks, Kelly. Thank you so much. All right, we got one more. One more. Did we make this the best one? I hope so. Okay, what's your name?

I'm trying to make it quick. I'm John. John, nice to meet you. So this is for everybody, primarily Colin, but everybody can't answer. But I know that you used to, in your old podcast, used to talk a lot about, like, comic books and stuff like that. And like, you know, the MCU, DCU and everything. What do you think of the current state of the MCU at the moment?

It's bleak. Deadpool Wolverine is I think one of the worst things to ever happen to humanity not in like movies that's fair what was the thing you just said there is the worst thing Deadpool and Wolverine

the movie yeah see he loved it no I'm not I don't know anything about this shit but I watched Deadpool 1 and I watched Deadpool 2 I think both

loved them. Yeah. And then I watched the third one, and I needed to have watched apparently 450 other films to understand any reference in the movie. The craziest part is if you had seen everything, you would have seen that half the movie

is Loki Season 1 again. So I assumed, wrongly, stupidly, that if I watched the first and the second film of a trilogy, the third one would make sense. Oh, you got to watch the 8X men. That's what I watch. Which is why I'm not opening it.

Season 1 because it's half the fucking movie. Guess what? I enjoy it when I watch a Marvel film. But like, it's honestly, and I hate to be like the fucking communist guy. But like the capitalism of like, let's just make them watch this movie and this movie and this movie. Just fucking is all I see when I see it. Wait for the credits. And then they'll tell you which movie to watch next. I love that people love them and I wish I could love them.

Copy my mic and now I'm in a marsh I think it started as like the fun of that was like pre-Disney Disney wasn't involved until the first Captain America I believe

or put like during the promotion the first Captain America That's where it was like Holy shit these are working I guess we'll keep making him I think Disney Plus as an entity

was the beginning of the downfall Yeah Because it was like let's make 10 What fucking ball at once Just crap Absolute crap Um, I don't know. There anything you're looking forward to coming up?

The Batman, too. That's... In a world of dog shit and poop and P, there's the Batman that is somehow just a masterpiece. Wait, whoa. Hit me. Rank the Batman for me. The actors or the movies? The movies.

I would go to the Batman. Number one. Number one, with a bullet, easy. Absolutely fun. How he's... Batman begins. It's number two. The Man begins, yeah.

I would go... I go begins over Dark Night. Yeah, all day. Yeah. All day. I would go Batman 89. When was the last time you watched it? Recently.

I... See, what you're about to say, I feel about Batman returns. I think it actually stinks. See, I think that around returns is better than... No, you're goth-washed. I get it. Fuller.

I see. You know, see. Yeah. Schof-iper is Michelle. Piper, I get it. That makes the movie good. But as a Batman story, it's a piece of shit. Chris Rwandan as the mayor, hilarious. Oh, so you're like real

comic book guy. That's why you like... He's flipping off a rubber mask. Yeah. I could shoot him in the head. I think that's why I didn't like the Batman that much. I didn't mind it on the second watch, but it's like, I didn't... I read Batman comics, but like comic people are like, he's the detective,

really? He's not half-bat. He's the world's greatest detective. Yeah. It's pretty good. Good for you. Thanks. So, Batman 89, number three. What's after that? I would say,

probably, Dark Night. Number four. What's left? Ferreys? Val Kilmer, Batman. Batman and Robby? Batman Forever is five.

Forever. Yeah. You take Ridler over the penguin? 100%. What about Royises? About what? Don't know. Darnia Rises is pretty low.

Really? I would put it above Batman Robin. So I'd probably put Dark Night Rise is number six. Batman and Robin is better than Batman returns. Wait, as a comic book fan, yeah.

Did you not feel any kind of justice for Bain from the comics versus the Batman and Robin version? Because when I... With him with Herman. That's right. Yeah, but what feels more like a comic book? Batman and Robin or the Dark Night Rise? But it wasn't accurate to the comic, Bane.

As actually established, I love it. big men. When I was a kid, I loved Batman. I loved Bain. And I was like, oh, Bain's going to be in a movie. And then Batman and Robin came out. And they made him this dumb, like,

just couldn't even speak or whatever. But he's just used up and he's huge. He's not that huge in it, though. Well, to me, at that age, he's massive, you know? I remember him being gigantic. He's bigger than Tom Hardy. Yeah, but he wasn't evil and clever enough. I thought maybe you'd got the same.

When the Christopher Nolan one where Bain came out, the kid in me was like, well, I like that he is cool. He's great. He's well done. I like the voice choice. That was cool. I like him actually doing the nightfall thing

and breaking his back. That's awesome. I think the movie, eh, that's fine. I don't like that Batman's girlfriend dies and then he's, I'm retired. That Batman wouldn't do that.

Batman would fight harder because of that. The whole thing, the only reason is out there. I don't want to get this into a Batman thing, but isn't the Dark Night Return? That's the same Frank Miller comic Yeah, but dude, he's like 80 years old in that.

Is he? Yes. You see what you've done? I know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And also me being like, oh, I'm not into comics and then being like,

yeah, but in that 1989 Frank Miller Batman, yeah, it lives in me. And then you got Batman Beyond where he's training the young Terry McGinnis because he's done, it's beautiful. But give me that. Give me that. Yeah, I'll give you that.

Anyway, Batman returns is the worst. Good question. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you. Anyway. I'm gonna piss my fucking pants.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna... I think that was a harder on the downbeat, right? Yeah, we're 36 minutes over what the schedule does to do. Pretty good. We, you know, we wish you all a very merry Christmas. We... Make sure we go to the show later on.

Make sure you go to the show tomorrow. They're going on the show. But it's pretty incredible what Better Lovers has managed to do within just a few short years. We know Buffalo obviously missed the spirit of every time I die It will live forever here Legendary Band

Better Lovers is continuing the legacy here And now we've got Blissmas baby Yeah Every year Yeah Yeah

Thanks for having me on their pop- Oh I've got into this I'm just coming on your podcast Craig Let's do this again sometime Let's get a pick

Remember every see Yeah Thank you. Thank you all so much. Have a great. Thanks, guys. Have a good time.

I'll see you on my head of us.