HardLore - HardLore's Day in Manchester (With Jimmy from Higher Power)
Episode Date: October 5, 2023In this very special HardLore episode that's the first of its kind, Colin and Bo spent an eventful day in Manchester, United Kingdom and put it all together into one great big deluxe video presentatio...n, featuring three chapters... Chapter I: They walked through Manchester with Jimmy Wizard, Higher Power's vocalist prior to Outbreak Fest 2023 and learned about Jimmy's entry into hardcore, Higher Power's evolution as a band, and much more. Chapter II: They sampled the apparent best of the best iced coffee that Manchester has to offer. Chapter III: They toured the menu at a British McDonald's and compared it to what they're used to at home. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef This episode is brought to you by ATHLETIC GREENS! Try AG1 at athleticgreens.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1. Join WHATNOT with our special little link to get $15 off your first purchase. Get ready for the first ever Hardlore live auction TOMORROW, March 24th at 8:30 PM EST: https://www.whatnot.com/invite/hardlore Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW HIGHER POWER: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/higherpowerleeds/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/higherpoweruk JIMMY'S INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/jimmyxwizard/ FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe Check out our merch at https://knotfest.com/store/?view=hardlore Find all of our videos at https://knot1.co/3vWXsbx #HardLore #HigherPower HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER For sponsorship opportunities, email us! info@hardlorepod.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hello, welcome. It's Hardlore Time. You are about to see something very special.
Shot in Manchester United Kingdom. Many moons ago. We filmed that as three separate things, but we put it together all in one gorgeous deluxe package.
Just for you is the first time I've done anything like this. We're in New York City now, which is a different place entirely.
You'll hear more about that soon. But enjoy Hardlore's Manchester Adventure.
Hello, welcome. It's Hardlore Time.
Where are we?
We're in Manchester, UK.
And where are we?
And we're at the Star and Gartar,
legendary, iconic punk, hardcore, rock venue here.
We've played here a ton of times.
Played here together.
Played here together.
It wasn't good.
But, you know, things have gotten better since.
Because this building right next to it
is where Outbreak Fest is happening this year.
Giants.
And we're here for that.
We wanted to take a walk around Manchester,
see what it has to offer.
Yeah.
Discover what the secret.
buried within, maybe eat a cheeky meal.
Yeah.
Or two.
You know, if only we had a guide of somebody not from here.
Hey.
It's Jimmy from higher power.
Oh my God.
How's it going?
It's going pretty good.
You're miced up ready to go?
It's almost like it was fun.
I can't believe it.
That would be crazy.
You're like some kind of wizard.
Oh.
Jimmy Wizard.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing very well.
in Manchester so yeah you you got experience with this place star and grutter
yeah a couple times played a couple shows in there kiss the couple girls down the
private car park a couple times right did you do the penis on that wall there I know
you're an artist with my penis oh wow finally dick on dick art
Iron Powers played here I found play yeah yeah maybe first couple shows and yeah yeah
one of the first headline shows here yeah it's been good so you're not from
I'm not one one bit from Manchester.
But you're our tour guide today.
I'm a tour guide.
I've spent enough time in Manchester that I think I can...
Okay.
We'll figure out something.
So if you're... to our American viewers, this is like me giving a tour of Portland, Oregon.
Yes.
Really good.
So let's go enjoy Portland through Jimmy's eyes.
The British version.
Yeah, the British version.
What should we do first? I'm starving.
Let's get something to eat.
What's the...
Okay.
Nando's?
We haven't had it yet.
I didn't say a cheeky meal.
We're feeling cheeky, haven't eaten, and having Ed Nando's yet, so that all lines up.
It's the most British cuisine that is not actually British.
Right. It's Perry Perry, right?
Most British cuisine.
Not actually not.
Well, perfect.
Done.
Let's do that.
Good day, sir.
Yeah, dude.
He's gone, too.
He's going to fast.
He's a real Manchester.
He's a real Mancuni because he didn't even look at us.
Is it Mancuni?
Mancuni?
That's...
What is Manchurian from?
Manchuria.
Who was that candidate?
No, no.
It's some candidate.
With a sniper rifle or something.
All right, Jimmy, tell me about getting into hardcore for you.
What was that like?
So, I accidentally got into hard, like modern hardcore.
Yeah.
Because I was a proper punk kid.
I grew up listening to Rancid, my favorite band, all that.
And then I was going to like punk and scar shows and stuff.
shows and stuff and I knew minor fret you know I was really into minor
threat I'm really into mine a fret yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna fucking so good so I like
new all hardcore but didn't really know what it what it quite differentiates yeah
and the distinction is very I just thinks back then so we had like a CD
shop called HMV in my in my town where I grew up you can imagine it's awesome CDs
everywhere everywhere so I went there I went in there
Yeah, there was a champion CD in there, like the last show DVD CD.
And I was, I'd always see it and I'd be like, damn, these, this looks interesting.
No kidding.
Who the fuck are these fucking champions.
Yeah, it's just, you know, on the front row of the sea and I was like, what is this?
This is, uh, this seems interesting, but they're not dressed like punks, but it looks like they could be playing punk.
So by this point, I randomly got into chain of Shremf through a grindcore band.
Does this until like cross?
Ack?
Tell me it was Ack.
It was a picture of dude wearing a chain shirt.
Oh, I think it was through Magrudergrine.
That makes sense.
That makes...
Somehow got onto Chain of Strength through them,
ordered the chain CD from eBay.
Then I'm like, oh, these dudes look like the dudes
on that champion CD.
That's hilarious.
So I put it together.
And I'm like, I like the sound of this chain
of strength band.
This is cool.
So I go to HMV, I purchased the CD,
the Champion Last Show DVD.
Rest is history, dude.
It was what I was waiting for.
Do you know what I mean?
Like octave chords, fast.
So melodic edge.
At the time when I was, yeah, when I didn't know what straight edge was,
but I like didn't like drinking.
I knew that.
Yeah.
At that time in my life.
Still an edgment.
Not anymore, not anymore.
Okay.
But.
Sorry, Carl, we lost one.
We lost one.
But so yeah, I was very, very like, you know, not,
I was like drinking kind of sucks.
This punk thing's cool, but everyone was just way still.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, like, so I was like,
So I was found, yeah, like chain of strength and that champion DVD changed it all.
Wow.
Then from there it was just, yeah, rivalry records, fucking all that big mid-early 2000 shit, you know, like have heart was blown up.
Oh, yeah.
How old are you?
Yeah, I'm 32 now.
Okay, so same, same era.
Yeah, same area, yeah.
So I was like finding all the, and my friend was real good at blog spots.
So he was like, oh, dude, that was a golden era.
So.
Golden era.
So instantly.
You do the parentheses, quote, search, specific.
specifically for blog spots.
Yeah.
Enter Mediafire in there too.
You can find anything.
Why was Media Fire so fast?
Why did it download so fast?
It just was the best one.
Yeah, it was the best.
And then that was so easy to access hardcore then.
You know what I mean?
I was just, I was in the right place, right time.
Toxic Breed, were you on Toxic Breed?
Probably, yeah.
I can't remember what blogs I used to go on it.
Toxicreed would have been like curated.
It was the gateway.
Yeah, absolutely.
But yeah, that was it.
It was from there, you know, it was like,
I said I grew up like a punk kid.
I went to shows from when I was probably like 11 or 12 years old.
Nice.
Not hardcore shows them.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, like local punk and scar shows.
So there was a big scene.
There was a big, uh, Moon Scar Records scene.
They had, it was like an American label,
but they had Moon Scar Europe.
And you know, it was all like that era of like less than Jake and stuff.
Oh, hell yeah.
There's a big.
Burger soundtrack.
There you go.
One of the best still to do it.
So that was really big when I was a kid
and you had like these bands like snuff from
the UK who are really old and they're on like fat records and stuff so I was into that from a
really young age going to shows so I knew what punk was you know I was all about it so yeah just naturally
transgressions of hardcore pretty similar to me yeah pretty similar to my trajectory
Collins a weirdo yeah he got into started with hardball he got into hardcore he just found
the normally yeah unlimited ammo cheat code yeah like right away beat the game real fast see there's not
many people who got off my age and generation I find got into hardcore through the punk
and scarfing oh really because the big thing in the uk that a lot of people got into hardcore
through was they were listening to like deathcore and stuff yeah oh so like that missed me yeah that
yeah so i was like yeah i was a bit different to everyone you know they were coming in because your
your age like our era that timeline that yeah that shit was budding oh it was you i mean yeah but then
right after that it was something that it was the biggest thing in the world
Yeah. But like higher power, that makes a lot of the melody make sense. Yeah. I would say. But higher power is like a harder band too.
Yeah, we have been in the past for sure. Are you not now? Yeah, I feel like we're not like this.
The thing kicking is over. Well, the desire to witness and it causes spin kick is over. No, no, no, that's not gone at all. It's just more the, uh, when you're playing music, you know, like when you play and explore and melody, I feel like we've, we've very much lent into the,
into the melodic side and not so much the groovy and mochy side that we had before.
But I think that naturally comes because like half the band are just stoners, so.
They're writing weed riffs now?
Yeah, pretty much.
Is anybody in the band, I never asked you this when we tour together?
Is anybody in the band into another?
Me and Louie, big time.
See, that makes, that also makes sense.
The melody, some of the groove.
So we're trying to push it, like, not really on purpose,
but it's naturally just gone, me and Louis write a lot of,
of it so it's very much like we're into all sorts of weird shit and so it's very very going towards
that direction because we're playing only the first year of releases that we had at the pre-show
tomorrow okay oh so i've been listening to them yeah gotch and i've been listening to them all week
you know trying to remember the words and i'm like damn we used to actually have real
e-town concrete style marsh bits and then i'm like damn what happened
What happened to us?
Where did, what the hell happened?
It was definitely, I can tell you, like a we've toured together.
Yeah.
It was, you guys evolved and changed.
Yeah.
I would say you did both, but in a way where it's like kind of a guaranteed recipe to succeed.
Hopefully.
So we'll see.
Jimmy, what's with the bees?
There's bees everywhere in Manchester.
Yeah, aside then, they're, uh, their symbol for some reason.
I'm not sure, yeah, I'm not sure why it's a bee, but it's, it is.
All right.
one bee yet even in Portland Oregon there's bees there too they got bees
any I would imagine any facts you need to know about Manchester oh is that okay
okay perfect just just Google Portland Oregon same as Manchester sister cities
that's right that's what they say the sister city to Chicago is Birmingham is
in O'Hare when you go from the train to your terminal it's a whole walkway of all the
flags of our sister cities we got a lot Birmingham UK Birmingham yeah
Birmingham, Alabama.
That's tragic.
That's real tragic.
You know, that's interesting to say.
It's like, I feel like in my, from my ignorant American mind, you look at the map of the UK, I see like six inhabitable cities on there.
Yeah.
Do you agree as a local?
Yeah.
And I don't even think they're tiny.
They're still tiny.
Yeah, but yeah, I'm with you.
Like, it's funny because Manchester is quite big.
Right.
assume it would have the best scene.
But like it doesn't for some reason.
And same, like, you know, it's just never really had like a really big spicy take.
And there's plenty of, there's plenty of American cities like that as well.
Oh, absolutely.
Not to disparage my own.
Some of the biggest cities.
Yes.
Are so big that you have five things going on at the same time.
Yeah.
That's the Chicago thing.
For sure.
Yeah.
And then Leeds, you go to Leeds as a tiny city.
Kind of very close to all this rural countryside.
and it's pretty unsuspecting, but it's probably got the best hardcore scene in the UK.
You think so.
Original home of Outbreakfast, right?
No, Sheffield.
Sheffield.
So, yeah.
How many bands are from Sheffield?
Dude.
There was, so before I go into hardcore, there was like a scene as a really fucking cool video
of like an edge day there.
Which is insane.
Yeah.
How many of those dudes are edge now?
Not many of, I know most of them.
of them and yeah no more of them at all call we're losing an incredible rate in UK we need you back we lost
the country yeah but there's got to know straight edge do you think straight edge will change with the
time so say like weed becomes legal yeah you recognize to CBD is a lot of strange people here
in CBD like you know I mean it's just do you personally think stray edge is gonna open with
with with the world accepting things we are members of the old guard yeah the old guard yeah
Yeah, we're very much gen 1.
Other than the...
Other than Carl.
Yeah.
But we're of that yoke.
We have had sex before.
We...
True.
Together.
Together.
Yeah.
That's the four...
How was it?
Look at that.
Hey, that's a good trip, brother.
Nothing.
Got a live one.
Got nothing.
He said, what the fuck was he on a guy?
Who was that guy?
Who the hell's this man?
Where the hell is this man?
Yeah, so there's no, and you can't be straight out in the UK, I guess.
It's hard, yeah.
It's just, there's not many.
The culture is like, all right, it's, it's eight, it's, well, what would it 8 PM be?
It's, uh, it's, uh, it's 20.
Time to go to the club.
20 o'clock.
20 o'clock, man.
Is that how you say?
I say it like that.
No one else does, but I've always just done that, you know, like 16.
20 o'clock.
20 o'clock.
That sounds so funny.
We had, uh, I had Harold from Koyo over yesterday.
Right.
And he had booked a train from these to Edinburgh.
And his phone, you obviously don't use military time in America.
And his phone was, his ticket, he booked the ticket for seven in the evening to go.
And he was like, dude, that's for seven in the morning, you idiot, you idiot.
Oh, fuck.
You got to book it at 19, dumb ass.
Then it just turns out that I didn't realize that you guys didn't use military time at all.
Like, you had no.
No.
Oh, you didn't know that?
So, no.
You've been there?
I've been there, but I'm not, I'm not pretty little, yeah.
The thing is, it still works over there.
Yeah, same with him.
His phone didn't adjust.
So I was like, dude, you've missed your train.
He's like, no.
He's like, shit, that fuck.
And it turns out we hadn't.
We were all wrong.
We're all wrong.
Oh, good.
So it is.
That's the cheekiest thing I've ever seen up there.
The Mubble Lamp.
Wow.
And you said you eat Nando's about four days a week.
Probably about, yeah, honestly.
I'm not even exaggerating.
I could probably have a little bit more money
in a nicer lifestyle if I didn't eat Nando's every fucking...
You're just like us, man.
That's the wrong way to think.
You earn your money to eat it.
Yeah, exactly.
What's better, what's more important?
Having a bright future or having a Nando's?
Or are they the same?
Poetry.
Are they the same?
Wow, one leads to the other.
John, you want to get us walking in?
We're not allowed to film.
Renegate and stuff.
Renegate is not.
This is Nandoz.
It is a UK institution.
Jiming is here.
What did you get?
Today, I'm indulging in the five-fly chicken.
Two chicken breasts.
Fused together by skin.
Final.
The fibrill.
The muggy food.
I love a British.
I don't know about it.
Is that, like, did you come up with that or were...
I didn't come up with the name.
another friend of all that came up with a name
it's just fun that our opponents together
there was one up on the bridge
there was someone in the left fauna at the front yeah
it's like it's like a
yeah I'm saying it is that
German in there's a I don't know if it's just kind of mainland Europe
there's a sort of a mesomics that is an orange cola
and he discovered that late in his life
that he could drink it in its whole life
They domesticated it
They're trying to the wild
They gentrified
They're justified.
They're going to try the parianets.
He's going to have the extra hot.
He's going to have the extra hot.
That's a shit.
That's good.
I'm not texting.
Ah.
That's what we do.
The paraneh is good.
This is delicious.
That's not spicy.
No, he doesn't like cream sauces.
I'll try the extra hot.
Oh, oh, Lord.
Let me try it.
Yeah, give a shot.
Extra hot.
We need some of them.
I'm a little fried cheese.
I'm like that.
A huge vegetable.
Yeah, so I've never really, I've never even looked at these, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I don't know what I'm gonna same color.
Yeah, something for red peppered shab.
Huh?
Awesome.
Why don't mind that at all?
For a non-spicement.
Yeah.
I kind of wish I got.
It's not.
Alright, well we're gonna eat now.
Yeah.
Alright.
All right, we got full of Mano's Cheetah.
I'm cheeked.
Big time.
How was your meal?
Delicious.
It's never once disappointed in the UK, ever.
Agreed.
The first time I had mandos was like three weeks into a 35 day tour of hell.
Of the UK.
Couscous, a waffle.
So getting this was just like an oasis in the day.
It's very much like something we would have at home.
Even though we have dandos at home, it's not the same.
Here it's a staple of UK culture.
This is, yeah, a staple.
my diet regular Nando's consumers so maybe one of the most yeah I think it's you know
80% of my diet is Nando 80% and I heard the remaining 20 is record shopping at your favorite local
record shop yeah his favorite local record shop all the time favorite local shop picazili records
it's been there years ever since I can remember how many times have you been there y'all
at least hard to count yeah hard to count zero at least I went one
and I got an Allison Shane's record.
Oh, nice.
And yeah.
Which one?
I've been yearning to go back ever since.
It was Jar of Flies and Sap, same record.
Oh, whoa.
Vinyl or CD?
Yeah, double vinyl, yeah, that's cool.
I'd love to get Jarflies on vinyl, actually.
Yeah, it was both.
What?
Maybe we can.
Maybe we can.
Maybe we can.
Let me ask you something.
I've been wondering about you.
Your last name is Wizard.
Yeah.
Legitimately is, yeah.
How much trouble did Harry Potter cause you when it was popping on?
Yeah, it's fucking, so it was already hard enough before that because the gaps who've just being a wizard.
Which I'm glad you own.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I feel like if you fix that now, people would be like nothing.
I don't know, what would I be?
I'd be a regular guy walking around.
It's beautiful.
It's like kind.
Yeah.
So, and then yeah, Harry Potter came out and it was not as bad as like it could have been for sure.
I would imagine it would have been some people would be positive.
He's causing trouble in the wizarding world.
He's causing trouble in the wizarding world.
You know what I mean?
It could have been worse.
He's somewhat of a grand wizard.
Yeah.
The grandest wizard.
Yeah.
Real,
Scumbeck.
So, yeah.
But yeah, it could have been worse, you know.
But it's still pretty rough.
Definitely worked in a lot of ways, you know.
Quit oppressing him, okay?
It's over.
It's done.
We don't fuck with her no more, all right?
Fuck shit yeah right dude yeah oh kerry potter fuck joe rolling
let's go to this fucking record store let's go the record store let's go the record store let's
leave the way i can i know the way perfectly i'm just i'm just replying to a message
you have the spider web app open okay we got here this way i reckon i reckon this big
street here and you're remembering i'm remit it's all coming back so yeah it's been a while it's
been a while you've only been there once after all it was one of the best
experiences of my life and I cannot wait to go back. Wow, I found a record. I found a record I ended up
selling out. Oh, okay. To Bo? Not to me. Yeah. Dude, dude. Dude, I would have sold you for like
20 quid. How he did so, right? He's a man about time. He's a really is. Never met that man in
my life. Really? I don't know who he is. Can't endorse him. Is that true? No, I do. I do.
He's a great. A fellow Manchurian. Yeah, yeah. Fellow Mancunian. Mancunian.
Mancunian.
That was Adam Kelly.
That makes sense.
What?
That was Adam Kelly.
No, it was not.
Yeah, it wasn't.
Imagine if he just looked wildly different.
Oh, Colin.
Oh, Colin.
This, listen, this is huge.
You know how many times I went to fucking Europe, got home and my first meal was Wing Stop?
He's got videos though.
There's literally a video of me going to Wing Stop and the guy greeting me at the door and saying, hey Colin, bro.
saying hey Colin welcome back here is that ranch here I've never been now this is the
first one I've seen ever in the UK branch um second dinner dude this place has changed
what about 11 11sies 11sies van's born in Europe now you have no idea how good you
have it let's go to this in Europe anymore you're right one time you're right
you've brexited you we've Brexit out of breakfast one time one time
We were in Berlin.
It was the same tour, but my group went out.
And Collins stayed.
But we were so desperate for food and so hungry for food.
We went to a falafel place, but we were so broke.
All of the prices was 8 euros, 88 cents, or 88, whatever, euros.
Which is racist.
And we were like, oh, no, you know, like it was too much money.
We were broke.
Only come to fine, all of it was 888 because it was just blank.
It was like a digital.
Oh, my God.
So all six of us were like, but in reality it was like four euros.
That's how hard it was to eat.
I've also taken us the wrong way.
It didn't make sense, but...
Oh, Colin.
We have to go down this.
His instincts came back.
It's back to this way.
It's down this.
You remember.
You remember.
I missed the turn.
Dude, when I was a kid, I wanted to be a bus driver so bad.
I was just gonna ask you that.
Yeah.
When I was younger, I just wanted to be a bus driver because they all had tattoos.
So I was like,
Wow.
Oh, I can do this job and be tired because they're all just these old guys with taps.
So that was the one criteria you knew.
That was it.
I was like if I want to be tatted and I want to-
And I want to work.
Want to pay the bills.
Okay, yeah.
And then I quickly discovered that I didn't actually want to work.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
I really, yeah.
I know what you mean.
Yeah, Sam.
That's why we're here.
Oh, this final exchange here, we can go there.
School of the record
district.
The hysteria of finding the record
I've always wanted to propose.
You know how
like at home
are big cities, New York, LA,
Chicago. What would be the next
one? Like here, San Francisco.
Big time. Right? What are like the four
here? Here.
London? London. Leeds.
Leeds number two.
Well, well, not in size, but in...
In heart.
In heart.
I'm going to say Leeds first, then London, then Manchester is a big place.
And then Birmingham?
Birmingham.
Yeah, just because of blacks out.
Yeah.
Don't want to, I didn't want to say it.
So you're not a Birmingham guy.
Is that a nice?
It's a sad place.
Could you do the Birmingham accent for me?
Yeah.
Because I really like a, our new favorite thing is a British guy doing an embellish accent.
Yeah.
So Brummey's like, I'm from Birmingham.
It just sounds like.
You have to do this face.
you have to do like the crying face i'm from birmingham that's it ever watch
piquet blinders oh oh my god speaking of tv did you watch any british tv yet in your room
no there's always boobs on normal tv though what's up with that that's a crazy
this a whole place 40 islands kids are allowed to watch boobs yeah oh it's a frick paris
there's cool man dude i was on i'm so i was an extra on a very popular british tv program
with your boots not with my boobs i didn't see
any boobs that day. It was quite disappointed. What show?
It's called Emmadale.
It's a fucking badass or what?
Any English people watching it will know it.
I was in the background.
What were you doing? I'll send you to clear.
I was in prison. I was a prisoner.
That's way cool. I was in the back of basketball wives season.
Yeah?
One of my favorite things he was doing on.
I was just working out.
One of my favorite things he used to do on the tour that we were on was a band would
be playing and he'd be on stage and like if you guys were the band, he would just like.
That's a good bit.
But on stage, like next to Paxson, just...
I was in extra mode, you know?
Yeah, he was in extra mode.
I wasn't trying to steal the show, you know?
So I learned in prison.
So fun.
I was letting them have that moment, so I was just blended in, you know.
When did you guys tour together?
With you?
No, no, no, different.
Different.
We were on the Knock Loose Acacia Street tour.
Oh, shit, I was after them.
In my head, yeah.
In my head, we, that was the same thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're the one all white people are the same.
Is that what you're saying?
That's not what I'm saying.
Did you guys hang out along that tour?
We did.
Yeah, yeah.
That was a tour where we like, everyone hung out the whole time.
It was awesome.
We toured with not loose in Europe, so we already knew them.
We'd never many of you guys, but yeah, you're all super good and super nice to us.
And yeah, it was a good, it was a good, good squad.
And then that life and death tour was good, but it was so many bands.
It was.
And that was our first big America tour, so we were like kind of scared.
And those are the dark times.
for me up here dude yeah so I was just like you think so yeah you were funny
that's the way I we all come away from that tour and we like he was funny you thought
that okay see I felt like I was like man I don't know if those guys rock with me
because I was like I was a bit I was a bit shy I was I was in my show yeah we were
scared because we were like dude we're on tall with the guy from hate for me like
we're just these little English boys we're just these little English boys and it's like
dude that he's the thing is is they were like man we're untow with the guy
exactly it was crazy
ever ended I still feel that.
As a young English man.
Let me Sean.
John Martin.
Good guy.
Not as scary as he looks.
Well, that's by design.
That's how he gets you in.
He lets you think that.
Yeah, and then you see him in a mall in Germany when he's, when his credit card is declined and things are different.
Shit.
Flipping tables.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a good tour, man.
Life and Death Store.
It was.
It was a cool thing.
I went to that one in Chicago, no morning.
morning? Yeah, I remember. Where was Chicago? Subtee? Well, my birthday. It wasn't, right. The shows weren't good, though. Let's, let's be honest, it was.
Compared to some tours we're down in the States. Yeah. Great tour. Great show. Yeah, dude, it was,
I remember being like, no warning. I come, but again, I was like, I'm touring with no warning.
And then I would just in my head, I was like, every show is going to be like Sound and Fury. Like,
they're the biggest, best, best hardcore band in the world. Like, they went away for a long time.
What are some records that you guys can both think of or bands?
Or your dad shows you them or something.
You're like, Dad, turn the shit off.
And then one day you realize he was spitting the whole time.
Michael Jackson?
Michael Jackson.
Yeah.
When you're a kid, Michael Jackson, you're like, okay, you know,
my dad loved Michael Jackson.
And then one day you kind of just realized he's got every hook that exists.
That's Michael Jackson.
It's a bad.
Speed Demon was the...
Michael Jackson Speed Demon was the song that got.
me into pop music.
So that's a good one.
The bass line.
A true...
A true Manchester story is I write an interview with Morrissey a long time ago that all he ever
wanted to do was make pop music.
He didn't care what it was.
And that as like a 14-year-old changed my mind on what...
You guys love Morrissey, don't you?
How do you feel about old Stevie?
I don't...
You down?
I hate him, but I don't love him, you know, I'm very, I mean, the guy versus the songs.
The guy, well, that's the thing I don't, yeah, the dude, he kind of sucks and what he created, kind of, like the person he created, you know, he kind of created the, the brand of guy.
Yeah, the tight jeans.
Yeah, but you know what?
He said the same thing about Slayer.
Yeah.
Yeah, the, I mean, he agrees with that.
Right.
But, right.
Yeah, I was also, another one I was in denial.
I actually Smiths and Morrissey do with really good songs, but I don't want to like it.
Yeah.
I'm like, I don't really want to like this.
I understand.
I want to like it so bad.
But I can't, yeah.
It is good.
It is good.
I will give him that.
I've wondered if he'd come up today.
I was like, is he making me?
I could say, I could make you a mix.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He says, and I agree all the time, that if we could procure the fucking set list or the playlist.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
If I made Morrissey's setlist, he would sell out 300,000.
five days a year.
Damn, every year.
Anyway, what was something that your parents spoke with that you got into later in life
and realized they were onto something?
Just like classic rock shit because my dad was a big metal guy.
So I grew up not, like, you know, like most people's parents are like they find hardcore and punk and metal through and that's their thing.
I grew up in a house where like normal music was metal.
Oh.
So it wasn't like, I didn't know, I didn't know Michael Jackson.
I didn't know any Fleetwood man.
None of that shit.
I had to discover that on my own, but I was given metal straight out the gate.
And then also my aunt, another person who was around, was giving me less than Jake and Green Day and Fruit Fighters.
So you were down with what your aunt, your aunt showed you the good shit.
She showed me the shit.
I was like, this is it.
My dad was showing me a lot of German speed metal.
He's really big into like racer X.
Yeah, he was into that.
So I, but I'll give him that.
Iron Maiden is something that I'm getting into the older.
get so we often have a discussion about like what band has been good for the longest
like track for track the most good songs iron maiden is in that discussion yeah i forget how you
feel about iron made couple tracks yeah that's what i thought they uh boy oh boy they got like 14
records still gone most yeah most of them are yeah it's crazy iron man's crazy uh so yeah i always
kind of hated them because i was like some dad shit you know i mean long sort of
songs about mystical beats and wars and World War II airplanes such oh god do you know what I mean
like just the best thing aces high as a young there for that so we so yeah how do you feel about oasis
i fucking love oasis yeah dude as a man curian as a as a as a born and bred mancunian
i'm fucking so loyal to oasis like i used to that's a relief but as a as a young so i grew up listening to
Oasis a lot as it's, you know, it's around as big, it's the biggest thing ever.
But when I started skateboarding, I could, you couldn't like it.
Yeah, right.
You could have, that's what I was wondering.
It's like, is it, was there a taboo aspect to like him?
Is it uncool?
You couldn't be a skateboarder and like Oasis or anything that, you know, you had to
strictly like punk or metal.
Yeah.
I got it on New Metal, it was new metal in that.
Which is crazy because Morning Glory is way more skateboard music than any new
new song.
We had it all wrong.
That's a really good point.
Yeah.
That's a skate song.
That's a skate song.
So, yeah, I was in denial for a long time that I really liked Oasis as much as I did.
And then I'm going to say when I was maybe 19 or 20 is when I fully embraced it.
Just, yeah, I stood up and I said, I liked a mosh and I love Oasis.
Yeah, on the cross.
And they hated him because he told the truth.
You got a record preference?
Is he's?
I'm going to be here now, man.
I was about to say the older I get,
so it, but it's hard to say because the first three,
all incredible.
All to me are equally as good,
but recently I have been listening to Be Here More a bit now
because I was like, damn, I'm sorry, kind of under,
like, I was like, you hear what he said just now?
Be here a bit and one out.
He said, Be here more a bit now.
That was amazing.
It was a good British improv, you know.
I would say, here's how I rationalize it.
Yeah.
If Be Here Now had Acquias and Master Plan, there'd be no conversation.
No, no.
You go right ahead, sir.
And what's it? Yeah, and Acquies, like.
That's the best rock and roll song of all time.
Is that just, I think that's just a B-side though.
It's a B-side of...
It's a B-side of...
How you did?
Yeah.
It is a B-side on what's the story.
He's so fan-tons.
He's so popular.
Nanchester, local legend.
The legend.
That didn't happen.
We got Jimmy here.
That didn't happen with Brian Garris.
in Louisville. That didn't happen with Chubby yesterday. You've gotten three.
Dude, I'm the king of Manchester.
Adam Kelly's been fronting this whole time.
I'll let him have it because he needs something, you know.
Adam Kelly was the first talking to Adam Kelly, hey Adam,
was the first time a guy in real life gave me the, you all right?
I was like, what? And to us, it's like, are you okay?
Are you all right? Is like, are you okay, man?
Yeah, that's how we say and we're like, yeah, why are you,
story about that because yeah being in england you're good you good yeah what you're saying you
good like that's a greeting you're good is borderline fuck you so yeah i was one time i was in boston one
time the first time i higher power went over and justice was taking us on tour and i'm in just a deli and the
guy the clerk guy comes up to me he's like hello sir how are you doing and i'm like yeah i'm good you
good like but oh dude and I'm just saying it that's hateful dude and he squared up to me
real so and I like leave I'm like I go what the fuck's going on this guy comes up to me he's
saying how are you I say yeah what's on how are you and then he just squares up to me and it gets
real intense and weird and then just is like what did you say and I'm like yeah you're good
then he's like dude you cannot just say that to people in the street I mean he's even
it's even worse in text you good you okay yeah it's like
You all right? You're all right? It's like, yeah, yeah. You're okay? So we are in my head,
it makes perfect sense because you're cutting out words. You're just going, hello, how are you today? Are you
good? You good? Yeah. Cool. See, I skip all that. Yes. I come and go,
What up, fucker? Can I borrow some money? You know? I skip the plus. Straight to the point.
Yeah, yeah. I need a guitar head. That's why I shouldn't. I care if you're good. Let me borrow it.
Set. That's right. Now. You got an extra stand from a splash.
Well, yeah, that's a whole other thing.
That's like, hey, I got two splashes.
What are you going to do?
Maybe the guy was trying to fight me because I was using pleasant cheese,
and he was like, he didn't feel like he...
He should have used context clues to know that you were a foreigner.
Yeah.
He was weird.
He saw the face stats, and he was like, this is one of my ops.
And he's here to get me.
He was like, shit.
That guy from jail.
I got this fucking record store that once...
That he may be once...
This record had jar of flies.
The jar of flies in.
Should have requested.
This is the one. This is where I got it from.
This is it.
It's all coming back now.
It's all coming back.
Fuck that.
Ooh.
Soundtracks for Pallel.
Perfect.
Loves it.
Dance. I love a dance.
Here we go.
This is real.
Wasn't a Scamlins band?
Yeah, look at that.
Dude, Stamlands, but this is Scandlin.
That's cool.
Are you a big record guy?
I was, and then I like started touring and had to keep selling them in between tours.
That's devastating.
Pretty much down to nothing now.
Even, oh.
Richmond.
What?
Down to nothing?
Down to nothing.
Well, dude, down to nothing was talking about hardcore, first hardcore experiences.
That was the third.
band I traveled to see in Burm.
Really?
In Burm?
They really broke out in Europe, huh?
It was when the most came out.
One of the best records in the world.
Look this, though, bro.
Have we Charles?
Three Chubby in the gang records.
They accepted that.
Chuckie in the game.
Chuckie, look at this.
We couldn't find it yesterday, but...
It's here in Manchester.
We're good here. We're good in Manchester.
We got speed kills.
We're good, man.
Is that one not speed kills as well?
as well nuts nuts they're all the same all got crazy colors on them look at this
right the the boys right dude being chubby used to be in a straight edge band
together what was it called abolition big in the strange game two edge breakers
sitting hard we put on one of the best all-time best UK Edge Day shows in
London was we were talking about that or was that you probably that might
be chubby yes yeah dude it's big it was fucking who played uh uh
It was abolition's last show.
I know that.
Some UK straight-edge bands that played.
I want to say we bought over this band in Herit.
They were Polish, but Adam Malik,
he lives in the UK,
Polish-Polish-Straish guy, old-head.
So we were real into that shit.
And yeah, I can't remember the rest of it,
to be honest.
For the edge of the line-up that is still straight-age?
Four percent.
I'll say four percent.
So 96 percent, Edgebrake-Gray-Rae?
I'm safe.
Gone.
Just gone.
No, they rock.
Dude, I actually can't remember who I was playing.
I'm a terrible person.
I'm a terrible friend
because I'm probably friends with everyone that plays.
It was the best show ever.
Yeah.
It really was.
There was a video of it online and just one billion people.
Some little chubby got it taken down.
His sister made a little documentary about it.
Why did he take it down?
He was embarrassed about how...
He was going too fucking hard.
He's going too hard on the edge and then...
Oh, well, he was taken down.
He's just showing respect.
So, that's cool.
Yeah, I broke edge.
Take that down.
Take that down.
That's what a real, I mean, maybe he's straight-edge again to me for that.
He may, he may.
He's on his.
He's passed.
He's paid his penance.
That was his Hail Mary.
Where's the Oasis section?
That's what we need to find, dude.
Love classic metal here.
Punk and hardcore, here we go.
They news.
Oh shit.
I've had that collection.
I've had that once.
And you know what they say?
When in Rome.
You know?
Dude, this car in here is real.
What?
This is a real car?
In the pool?
Yeah.
It's supposed to be Keith Moon's car?
Yeah, it's a real car in one.
It's a really Keith Moon's car.
Keith Moon famously or infamously drew his car into his
He also ran over his driver and killed him.
Which one?
Which one's got slide away on them?
This one, this one definitely made me a slide.
That's the song that made me a fan.
Oh really?
Yeah.
By the way was the one that got me.
Wonderwall I heard growing up and I was like, fuck this.
But then I heard the title track.
What's the story?
That's the one I got you?
I still love Wondel, though.
I like, I fucking love it.
That's great.
The live versions are unplugged?
Yeah.
Dude, and when people go, what's your favorite racist song?
And you're like, I'm not even going to pretend,
like, I'm going to go on a deep cut.
I'm like, it's Wondel.
Is it really?
Really? Yeah. Mine is, I hope I think I'm a...
One, Slime. Not Equias?
Aquas is the best rock song ever. Okay.
So it's, I don't even count that as a racist.
No, I... No, it probably is. But still, best rock song ever.
What about my, one of my favorite lyrics is on this record, that My Big Mouth song.
My Big Mouth. And he's like in, talking about flying a plane, isn't that?
That's right. I relate, I got a big old mouth, man. You got a...
You got a... Oh my God. That's a hell of a gate.
Yeah.
Can we find this...
I can relate to...
To the...
To the average man.
I wonder if it's here.
Oh, that's in London.
It's in London, yeah.
He could have gone there yesterday.
People take pictures there all.
That was there recently, yeah, yeah.
Such a good band.
Such a big band.
Also, like, kind of like, some of it is like,
email.
You listen to and you're like, this is like super much.
And then it gets aggressive.
Yeah, it's also punk.
Yeah, it's also punk.
But they would never tell you.
They would never say.
They'd go, it's fucking lankom.
Yeah.
They beat your ass by saying it's punk.
I'd tell him this email, I'd be like, dude, this is some of the most emotional music I've ever listened.
And now they've probably just be like, that's biblical, man.
Yeah.
He'd be like, I watched a thing with Noel recently and he was listening off.
He's like, oh, what's the story?
Shit. Hate it. Sounds shit.
It's just like a fucking buzz. It's just a buzz.
Tones of shit.
And I love these.
Can I hear that?
Yeah.
Not happy with one record.
It's funny that there was ever a, like, stigma with UK Harkarkoff
and oasis, considering American hardcore kids in oasis,
is like, that's the van.
That's, yeah, yeah, we are allowed to like.
You're allowed, yeah, over here was, yeah,
it's controversial because you were like,
oh, but you're a skater, you can't listen to that.
That's Chav music.
Chav is.
Chav. I mean, we have, to define Chav.
Chav is like, Chab is Oasis, dude, you know.
So dope as hell.
Yeah, just lads and then.
Yeah, you're a chab.
You know what I mean?
Do you in, don't fucking do you in.
Yeah, you're a chap.
The Virgin skater versus the Chavv oasis fan.
Dude, you couldn't be both.
You couldn't mix.
Nowadays, you can't.
Times of chess.
I mean, we have, like, classic rock.
When you were into punk, you couldn't be into classic art.
I had to love.
I like these two things back to back.
Yeah, I know.
Which were both very close.
No, I'm talking about young me was secretly fucking with Demo and loudly.
So that was the opposite to.
Screecheezy has a song called I Hate Led Zeppel.
I didn't like that, but I had to pretend.
We have, we won't be living a lie.
We all lie.
I'd be lying on this show every day.
That's some of me too.
Some frog roll.
One of the greatest fans of all time.
Oh, King Grimble.
I've only known the face.
The face on, yeah, dude.
Let's get out of here.
Let me ask you this.
After a big meal at Namos,
what is better than a sweet treat?
Nothing.
So we...
I think maybe we need a little sweet treat.
So when you were growing up, you're a little young lad running around Manchester.
Day after year after year.
Where would you go for your favorite British street?
Boy, this is a lazy Sunday, I'll tell you what.
Oh, my God.
Let's go in the shade, shall we?
Is it not Sunday today?
What day is it?
Wednesday.
You're right.
Lazy Wednesday.
It's a lazy Wednesday.
Wicked Wednesday.
Oh, we're creams now.
It's a wicked Wednesday with the boys.
It really is, man.
So this is what you do every day?
something like this.
You're so lucky to live in the city like in Manchester.
I live in the city.
Oh, you're where you live?
This is where I live.
You live up there.
Yeah, I live up there in the city, so.
Wow.
How do you see addresses?
Um...
Where are they?
Yeah, I see that.
Yeah, you see that.
But that's all.
You're just gonna know where shit is.
They have a little numbers somewhere.
Some of them, they'll have little numbers on the doors.
Yeah, but your house doesn't have anything out.
Okay.
Yeah, the city.
You just know.
know where I live.
So walk me through this.
Yeah.
You got a day off.
You're not tatin.
You're not singing.
What are you doing?
Walking the dog.
Oh, aren't we all?
Walking the dog, man.
How many times?
All fucking day.
Six to eight times.
Yeah.
Right.
That's a full-time job.
It's a full-time job.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Pretty much that.
Come into Manchester, check out some records, eat some ice cream.
You know, use some Nando's.
Yeah.
The usual day.
The usual.
Yeah.
That's a good day.
Yeah, if the weather's good, I'm outside.
If you've got a show coming up, you'll go to the gym once a week.
Yeah, once.
Just to get those ceremonies built up so the people know when they're looking at.
Yeah, yeah.
The front row can smell it.
Oh, that's a singer.
Yeah.
He doesn't sound good, but it's a something good.
He smells.
He smells.
He smells.
That's fun.
That's a good day.
It's a real good day.
We're all Manchurian today, you know?
Manchurian.
Mankoan.
Mangan.
We're all manorian today.
This is the way.
Oh.
Mankunian.
It's a way of life.
Mankunian?
Mankunian, yeah.
That's a cat.
Mm-hmm.
Mankoon is a cat, big old cat.
It's Manchurian.
You get born, they give you a nice sniper rifle.
Then they take it away.
This is delicious.
Yeah, this is good.
Well, this has been a good day.
Well done.
Yes.
That was too good.
Thank you for including me in your...
Kid me, dude?
In your day, in your video diary.
This was fun.
Absolutely.
This is very fun.
Where are we, Bo?
We're in Manchester, foggy old.
United Kingdom, home of coffee that we've had a tough time with so far.
As ignorant American iced coffee drinkers, we've not found the best of the best.
Colin just pointed out that this iced Americano's ice melted in a 30-second walk from where we were.
That don't add up.
But anyway, we've gotten some good recommendations for coffee places in Manchester that make a mean ice coffee or a cold brew.
Some of them, however, don't.
Don't you cold brew.
So what happens a lot in the UK and Europe is you ask for an iced coffee or cold brew, they'll ask, do you mean an Americano?
Or do you mean an ice latte?
I don't mean that.
We don't.
But if they think we do, we have to say yes.
Hence, the Americano.
The iced Americanos.
Which don't, this was bad.
Real bad.
When we got here, we had this particular place, and it was the worst cup.
So we went back again to support them.
And here we go.
Let's try some other spots.
Hello.
Could we have two cold brews?
Oh, thank you.
Foundation.
All right, here we go.
Atlanta's finest.
Truly.
Yeah, so there we go.
Here's a cold brew from Foundation Coffee Manches.
I got milk.
Huh?
I got milk.
Oh, really?
I got nothing but milk.
I got milk with my coffee.
Mine's pretty lovely.
It's milk.
I'm drinking milk.
But I don't like milk.
I got milk.
I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
Maybe they're not letting the beans steep for long enough?
Because do you, when I make cold brew at home, it's like 24 hours.
12 to 24.
12 is enough.
Right. Maybe this, what, you know?
Maybe they're over diluting it or something?
I don't know. I literally, you know how milk has that milky taste?
That's what I got.
I think this is yummy.
Compared to what would you drink?
Out of five, what would you give?
A two.
And I'm not even trying to be argumentative.
This is just...
I would give it a two and a half, three?
Two and a half.
Okay, okay.
Two point seven.
What would you give what we just had?
Black sheep?
Yeah.
Point.
Yeah.
Two.
Whatever.
Yeah.
This is an undrinkable.
This is entirely drinkable.
But for a daily cup?
No.
Yeah.
There you go.
All these.
Hey.
We're back.
Hi.
Hi.
Hello, lads.
Yes.
Yes.
She's genius.
Did you get that, Sean?
Did you get that, Sean?
They're all so nice.
All right, Sean.
As you can, as you can see, bold streets still this one.
the sweetest people in the world. We came here the other day. We were Florida. Yeah.
It was our favorite place so far. Let's see if that still stands. There you go.
That's what I want. That's what I want. That's best cold dude. That was good.
Wow. You can get this at home, you know? This is, this tastes like when you're
walking out the street and you're like, oh, I didn't know there's a coffee place here.
I'll get a cold group. Boom. That's actually a really good description. You know?
Yeah, that's exactly what it's like. This tastes like home.
So if you are an American or just an ignorant ice coffee loving sack of shit.
Son of a gun.
And you're in Manchester.
Bold Street is the way I think their original location is in Liverpool.
So if you're in Liverpool, go to the OG one.
That's the Grabenpola.
But the staff here.
Unbelievable.
To the next spot, Bold Street number one.
Here we go.
To the Royal Exchange.
It's a thousand years.
Hello.
Is it crushed ice like blended?
Oh, okay.
Do you have cold blue?
No.
Okay.
Can you do an iced Americado?
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Have a great day.
That's the hottest room I've ever been in my life.
Those people are indentured servants.
I really hope they're okay.
It's a hundred degrees in there.
Look at that.
Yes.
Woo!
Little slice of home.
Get him with your wood.
All right.
So this is Michael.
Michael's.
Michael's cold bruce.
This is an ice americana.
Ice americana.
No cold room.
So there you go.
So we're already.
We take the first thing you do.
Here we go.
Michael's ice marcona.
It tastes like espresso.
It's not very strong.
The thing is,
is like, at home,
if you get a black,
this is a black marcona.
When you drink that,
you go,
oh, you know.
This has whole milk in it.
How can that be?
I know.
It's a mystery out here.
Oh, my.
Yeah, it's a great conundit.
We did some research.
Coldbrew was invented in Kyoto, Japan.
In the 1600s.
It's been around.
That's a thousand years ago.
And they still haven't figured this out.
I hate this too.
They have like a blended thing that sounded yummy, but not like what we're...
Not what we're doing.
I probably would have done that if we weren't doing this.
It's like a frappuccino.
Like a blended...
A lot of flavored coffee.
And there's coffee-based ones and milk-based ones for the kids, you know.
For me, this stinks.
This is bad.
And I don't want it.
And I don't like how they're treating their workers.
So, what would you give it?
I would have, they should close.
It is 40 Celsius in there, which is 200.
They have no business, you know.
What would you give this out of five?
How many beans out of five?
It's better than black sheep.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I would give it.
What did I give foundation?
I gave two.
Yeah.
I'd give this...
One point five.
Yeah, right around the same.
One point five.
What would you have?
Do you have two ice marquots?
Sure.
Is that what...
In terms of iced coffee,
it would just be an Americano?
Yeah, that's pretty much the closest to a coffee.
Yeah, sure.
Okay.
Can we have two Americanos?
Is that that?
That's what he said.
Two iced whites.
That what we got?
That's what I apparently
No cold brew at moose coffee
But it's kind of like a restaurant
So it's really not their breakfast place
Here we go
It's strong
It's strong
It's strong
It's burned Americano
It's the strongest one we've had
It is for sure
Plenty of ice
Plenty hot
Yeah
The ice thing was this big
The ice was like
It was like
Oh you want an ice drink
And they went into a vault
Unlocked
They had to get two keys
Key please
D&A
entrance and then they pulled out a thing of ice this big and they were like stand back and scooped
this isn't too bad it's not that it's pretty honestly it's very sure so i mean i'm pretty impressed
so moose coffee not so bad and it's an authentic american canadian breakfast brunch
which means they should have normal bacon it's also slamming slamming so it must be must be good
this isn't it's not terrible i'd give it two beans two beans two beans
Yeah. I'd give it, uh, I'd give it like two and a half. It's pretty strong.
Wow. It's pretty, I mean, I just would never order it. Yeah, iced Americano is not my, not my vibe.
Okay.
Who's coffee? Pretty good. Hey, how are you? Do you have cold brew, quite a chance?
What's never? Cold brew? I'll have an ice, two iced americano.
All right, here we are two. Central perk.
Iceed Americanos is the same ones they drank in this shitty fucking show.
shitty show, shitty drink.
Ready?
Here we go.
That is terrible.
That is water and milk.
Water and milk.
Look at Collins compared to mine.
He's got even more milk.
That's about the worst thing I ever had.
That is less than a bean.
Crumbs, bean grums.
Zero beans.
No beans.
Holy shit.
I mean, to be fair, it's a tourist thing.
It's not.
We saw it on the map who we were like, that's the same name.
And then you get there and it's the same.
They got the couch.
They got the whole thing.
Couple of iced whites.
Holy shit.
I'm not taking another shit.
No, that's bad.
Surprise.
We had to finish it, Duncan.
They have cold brew.
The world runs on Duncan.
This is a lovely surprise.
We figured it would be a fun way to end this video.
This has been Hardlore Slam's British ice coffee.
Thank you so much for watching.
Cheers.
Hello, welcome.
It's Hardlore Time.
Where are we, Bo?
We're in Manchester United Kingdom.
Manchester, UK, we are here to sample the menu of our beloved hometown establishment.
We talk a lot of smack on English food, the differences between home and here.
We're hoping to find something to bridge the gap.
Yeah.
You know?
Also, it's been a while.
We haven't been here in a while.
The menu changes all the time.
They've limited stuff.
So we want to try that limited stuff.
show you the American viewers what you're missing and show you the English viewers what we think of your local
version of what we know and love yeah let's give it a shot let's go bag secured bags secured
several bags where should we eat this fucking three bags maybe on this gorgeous statue over there we can
just sit on that guy it's not flat though I bet there's a bench there's a bench there's a bench
wouldn't that be nice that would be so nice fuck off fuck off there's there
They specifically want what we have.
And what do we got, Colin?
Okay, so we sampled the menu here at this gorgeous Manchester United Kingdom McDonald's.
It is lovely.
It is lovely.
As you all know, we are McDonald's connoisseurs, McDonald's, if you will.
That was off the fly.
That was amazing.
So let's see what we got.
Let's just dive right in.
Oh, something I'm really excited about.
They have mozzarella cheese.
which like that's huge a mozzarella stick is one of my favorite things on earth
agree that McDonald's never have these are just normal double cheese you know let's
let's give those a world give them just a macdrella bite there's a there's a
marinera somewhere with marinera kind of tastes like a donut show on the inside
cheese share I think that's what these are called yeah cheese shares
share box that tastes like a donut or something
There's something...
It's cheesy.
This is yours.
Okay.
So these are like big...
Remember the snack wrap?
Yeah.
This is like a big snack wrap.
Is that what we're doing next?
And they're named...
They're titled like Friends episodes.
Is that true?
Yeah, they're like the Siracha one.
And yours is the barbecue one.
Which is how...
This is fucking weird.
So let's go...
I got barbecue because usually barbecue.
Is there mayo?
Yeah, there's mayo all over it.
So check this out.
It's very European. Chicken, cucumber, syracia.
Let's give it a... and the biggest tortilla you've ever.
Hardlore hates littering.
Yeah, we don't litter.
We don't fuck with littering.
If you're watching this, then you litter, I'll fucking kill you.
This is also there.
Here we go.
Yeah, all right.
Oh, fuck you.
That's not good.
Oh, so much mayonnaise. I'm sorry. I'll eat that later.
Ronald, what's going on with this one?
It's not good.
Little too East Germany for me, you know?
Yeah.
Ronald.
A little too iron curtains for me.
Ronald, you didn't do it with the wrap, with the one, the Saratcha one.
Okay, paper straws and McDonald's are a sin.
That's crazy.
It's a sin.
I'm going to need to wash that down.
You're going to worship.
Go ahead.
Didn't have diet.
No diet?
Do you have ice.
Yeah, yeah, that's huge.
Shocked.
Frankly.
Last night we went to a place called Archie's, which really good, local, like, burger
chain, it seems like? I want you to get a close-up on his face as he drinks this.
Is it crazy? Oh my God. There's zero carbonation.
That is still water.
Coke zero water. Well, strike one, strike two, frankly. Rich tomato dip. This is ketchup.
Rich tomato zip. I think, no, that's the marinera. Oh. That's the marinera. So that, that makes
sense. That makes perfect sense. There's a double Big Mac, no sauce for yours truly.
This is for everybody out there who knows me, who loves me.
Oh, that's a good fry.
No ketchup on it.
Yeah, let me do double Big Macs on top.
Get them out.
That's just the driest burger you've ever seen because I don't do sauce.
I would have loved ketchup.
It's okay.
Mine is properly sauced, properly chuffed.
I saw a tweet that was like me flipping through the Big Mac like a lot of money,
the McDonald's cashier.
It's all there, I swear.
Let's give it a shot.
Yeah.
There he is.
Paveful.
Have you met him before?
Oh, this guy?
Yeah.
This is my buddy Mac, double Big Mac Miller.
The double Big Mac Miller, yeah.
That's good.
The pickles.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
The pickles are the whole thing.
That's perfect.
Mm-hmm.
Mm.
Very tasty.
Ronnie, we're back.
Just a little ketchup.
Mm-hmm.
Why don't you put some on?
My man's always thinking.
Mm-hmm.
That was a swissed.
Delected.
That's what we like.
Okay.
That was enjoyable.
This was masterful.
That was enjoyable.
Art.
Art.
He's back in my good graces.
Yeah.
Until.
He's out of my good graces.
We've had some serious issues with carbonation in the UK.
Carbonation, ice.
I can't get both.
Oh.
That the vegan?
Now this is exciting.
The Mcplant.
Yeah.
All right.
The Mcplant.
This is for our...
Oh, look at that.
This is for our vegan homies.
Sorry, Bubba.
Or is it loaded?
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I'm doing one of those.
That's respectful, I think.
That's respectful, like.
Isn't it?
Wait, look at my pickle.
You want to talk disrespect?
Yeah, that's fucked.
That's fucked.
This is the McPlanant.
So this is their vegan burger in Europe and the UK.
for all our vegan, all our vegan soldiers.
To the vegans for Carl.
Tomatoes hefty.
I mean, I love tomato.
That is just.
The burger patty is.
It's just a mushy vegan burger.
It tastes like boca.
Oh my God.
This is disgraceful.
I wouldn't go to.
Absolutely fucking rot.
Dude, this is bad.
This is like, yeah, this is like.
Yeah, that's bad.
I mean, knowing, like having beyond meat and shit, impossible, you know.
There's just nothing there.
This is so much worse.
Yeah. This is remnants of the old era of vegan foods.
Only Boca. Yeah. That's it.
Where it's like, yeah, there's finally a vegan hamburger.
Look at that. It has the last last.
This is miserable.
Shit out.
Damn. I despise this.
This is for my good, dear friend, Brody King.
Got a couple cheeky nuggies. A couple 20, 20, 30, 50.
Good?
Oh, wait a minute.
Now, give me your thoughts.
The crunch, perfect.
Get a close up with this.
The crunch is just right.
But then, what's up with that meat?
This is different.
Yeah.
Flavorless.
Right?
New print.
Little yellow.
The inside.
It tastes so when you eat an American McNugget, thank you.
It tastes like the inside is also seasoned.
Yes, exactly.
This tastes.
like the outside has every bit of flavor.
Maybe that's it.
We'll try a little barbecue because that could help.
This is their new limited Chipotle Mayo,
which if they have this in the States, I would get it.
Barbecue helps a lot.
Was it?
Yeah.
Let's see.
Look at that.
Sexy.
Mm-hmm.
So they're vessels.
Yeah.
For sauce.
Whereas in America, I could slam a 20 by itself, no problem.
Also, no buffalo.
I mean, they don't know what that is.
Which is a shame.
Because Buffalo is truly a blessing.
What is paprika?
Everything is paprika here.
You know what paprika is?
Spice.
But do you know what it's made out of?
No.
It is, it's dried bell peppers.
That's all it is.
Bell peppers are one of the things where I'm at the point now where I'm not a super picky ear.
Yeah.
I'll do pretty much kind of thing.
Bell peppers, I don't, I can't acquire the taste of.
Really?
I love it.
I love like a hummus tray with some bell slices.
Shoot that shit.
I wish that good.
My life would be much easier.
But alas, I have McNuggets.
You really do, dude.
This is good.
Yeah, this is good.
So so far the Big Mac and the Nuggies, great.
The wrap, God awful.
The fucking McPlant.
The McPlant is one of the worst things I've ever had.
These, I want to try with the, yeah, yeah.
Let's try the cheese shares with the Chipotle and Maya.
I'm going to try it with the mariner.
Look, that's straight up mariner.
Outstanding.
Yeah, give that a row.
Let me get a dip of that.
Get in there.
The waters.
Yeah, there you go.
That's what you need it.
Immediately, that's a boss.
Yeah.
Immediately.
They need those.
Oh, yeah.
We need those at home.
Oh, yeah.
That'll do.
Yeah.
That'll do real nice.
My, so you know what that tastes like?
Lunchable.
This is the lunchable pizza sauce.
The lunchable marinade.
Yeah.
You're absolutely right.
This is note for note,
luncheables, mariner.
You know what that means?
It's time for dessert.
It's McFlurry time.
Yeah.
One of my favorite things on planet Earth is Biskopf.
Your limited edition.
Biskopf, McFlurry.
A little melty.
If you don't know what Biscop is,
Biscop is what cookie butter is made out of.
It's also what American Airlines gives you the little cookies.
They're kind of gingerbreadty, kind of.
It means you're in the air.
Yes.
to me. And I'm ready to fly.
Okay, here we go. That is Biskopf and McFlurry at the same time.
What that is, is they put soft serve in a thing and dumped a Bisk off on it.
It's not really.
Now you'll notice, a regular spoon.
Because they don't, they don't have the machine.
In America, the purpose of the spoon, the Flurry spoon, is you put it in a machine,
It grabs the top of the spoon and mixes it.
The spoon is a tool.
It has a purpose.
It is designed with a function.
This doesn't have that.
This has a spoon that I would never know
which direction it faces.
Made from paper.
I mean, it's two great things at the same time.
But it's not a McFlurray.
There's nothing flurry.
Yeah.
There's no flurry occurring.
Pouring an ingredient on soft serve
of McFlurry is not.
How were the fries?
A little weird?
This is a day old, I would just describe it?
The old fries.
So basically, the chicken nuggets and the double big Macs and the star of the show.
Yeah, two sharebox gangster.
That rocks.
Certified fresh.
With the Maranar.
Yeah, the Maran.
Even with the Chapoia, honestly, really good.
That rock.
They just need to be dipped in a thing.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
As the final thing, we got just some normal.
Oh, yeah.
Double cheese.
burgers. The gold standard. They don't have a McDouble here. No McDonald's. So two
beefies and cheese, my man doesn't like that much cheese. I don't. I don't get any cheese
on burgers, frankly. Have you ever talked about why? I have a very strong palate,
which means certain flavors stick out super hard. Cheese is one of them. Cheese to me,
if cheese is on a thing, I can only taste cheese. It consumes and envelopes everything else.
So I like cheese.
I just tend to get burgers without it because I like meat and sauce and pickle and all the other stuff going on.
Here we go.
Let's give a shot.
That's McDonald's.
Just like home.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
We've been away for three days.
I missed it.
I missed it.
Yeah.
That'll do me.
That's just right.
That'll do me.
This is fucking abominable.
The pop is actually the craziest thing.
We have not had luck with...
Anywhere.
Yesterday we went to a burger place called Archies.
Archies was great, but we asked for ice in our sodas,
and she had to go into a basement,
and she was gone for like five minutes,
getting us four cube.
She put ice in a cup.
This place is older than anything.
And anything.
Ice was probably invented here.
This is good.
This is good.
I think that if we were weeks into a tour now,
this would be stellar.
But we're not.
We're days in.
And we've been eating pretty good the whole time.
Truly.
Which is kind of different.
We were talking about that like 10 years ago.
When we first started touring, there was no Shait Shack.
No.
Wingstop?
Yeah, Wingstop.
The fact that Wingstop exists in the UK now is young bands who are touring here now for the first time,
you're blessed.
You have no idea how lucky you are.
Embrace it.
Don't take it for granted.
Like for vegans, go anywhere else.
Go everywhere else.
On our way here, we ran into Mr. Ballou from Converge, God City Studios.
He had just eaten at a place called Vegan Shack.
He said it was pretty good.
It's just Shake Shack, but vegan.
You can check out Vegan Shack.
Don't get them at Klan.
They also have veggie, like, tenders here, veggie tendies.
That's where I draw the line.
Yeah, we didn't get them, but maybe it's good.
This is insane.
Abominable, like the snowman.
This was British McDonald's.
Hard lore, another, we did it again.
We always do.
It was yummy.
It was nutritional.
Nutritional.
How many calories was each shake?
100.
100, cow.
And we're done.
That's it.
Bye.
Go to McDonald's.
Bye.
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And we've also got to talk to you about AG1.
You know, I haven't taken mine unions.
Today?
I haven't taken it yet.
Me neither.
I'm feeling a little sluggish.
I think you're right.
That's why.
Yeah, I think so.
AG1 is a daily, easy, one scoop, green supplement with all the good stuff you've been missing.
You wonder, why does my body feel like absolute butt?
It's because it's missing AG1.
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That's all it is.
I notice when I don't take it and that's why I continue taking it.
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I haven't been sick in a minute.
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Well, they could have the packets too.
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That's right.
It's also Manscape Time.
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Almost more than ever.
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Listen, guys, summer's over, okay?
Yeah.
Summer is manscape season,
but I think it's important
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You have to escape your man.
You slack, and then before you know it,
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And we just can't have that.
But it's not just, you know,
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No, no.
There's much.
They got all these other products,
Bo, that we use every day.
Every single day.
As a matter of fact,
I would say it's almost least about trimming pubs.
Yeah, yeah.
It's about trimming nose, ears,
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And what do they get if they use code hardlore?
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