HardLore - HardLore's Favorite Modern Breakdowns (2000-2025)

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

This week HardLore is celebrating modern hardcore greatness as we BREAK DOWN some of our favorite breakdowns released between 2000-2025 in the very first new list/ranking video on the new HardLore cha...nnel. Official companion playlist:Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0CXJch4lVBtPjPwPgHUeyk?si=28NrGTgzR7y2E_Qi85vnLAApple Music - https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/hardlore-best-modern-breakdowns/pl.u-pMyllgjCWjrqN62Edited by Steven Grise (@iamoneonenineseven) • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf (@marzluf) HardLore: A Knotfest Series Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes: https://patreon.com/hardlorepod Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef Cool links: Try AG1 at DrinkAG1.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1. Get 15% off MADD VINTAGE with code HARDLORE15! https://maddvintage.com/ FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovngFOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe #HARDLORE #HARDCORE00:00:00 - Hello Welcome00:00:50 - Introduction00:03:00 - King Nine - No Dreams00:04:37 - First Blood - Victim00:06:24 - Sunami - Step Up00:07:44 - Cosmic Joke - Empty Nesting Doll00:09:18 - 100 Demons - His Fathers Son00:11:36 - New Lows - Hatchet Head00:13:51 - Nails - Gods Cold Hands00:15:33 - Xibalba - Cold00:17:09 - Irate - Gone00:18:09 - Comeback Kid - All in A Year00:19:48 - Trapped Under Ice - Too True00:21:33 - Righteous Jams - Bust it00:23:48 - Torena - Bleed00:25:07 - Missing Link - New York Minute00:26:32 - Harms Way - Breeding Grounds00:28:32 - Gods Hate - Finish The Job00:30:18 - Bad Seed - Real Rain Pours00:33:12 - Figure Four - Kill And Deceive00:34:56 - Pardon This Interuption00:36:49 - Ingrown - Gun00:39:45 - Most Precious Blood - Apparition00:40:49 - All Out War - Vengance Reigns Eternal00:42:22 - The Killer - True Failure00:44:27 - Mongrel - Tightrope Walk00:45:56 - Trapped Under Ice - Half Person00:47:46 - Never Ending Game - God Forgives00:49:14 - King Nine - Art of War00:50:39 - Death Threat - Never Again00:52:02 - Disgrace - True Enemy00:53:51 - Disgrace - Self00:55:36 - Have Heart - Watch Me Rise00:56:58 - Top 5 time00:57:05 - Downpresser Intro00:58:21 - Mental - DFJ's Diary00:59:57 - Cold as life - Who Holds the Truth01:00:47 - No Warning - Scratch The Skin01:02:25 - Dead And Dying - Prophecy of War01:03:59 - Dying Fetus - Subjected to A Beating01:05:04 - Kickback - No Surrender01:06:29 - Hatebreed - Proven01:08:18 - Crowbar - Cemetery Angels01:09:40 - Lamb Of God - Now You Have Something To Die For  HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster EnergyEdited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas MarzlufJoin the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes.Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes.FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLEFOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAMFOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER For sponsorship opportunities, email us! info@hardlorepod.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Speaking of 2006, what would this list be without the hardest band of all time? The band is Hunter Demons. The song is his father's son. It's so important to remember when writing these things that mauscibility is number one. You don't need to do the most technical thing in the world to create a mashable moment. Right. Sometimes you just got to go gung-gag-gag-gag-gun-gun. Hello, welcome.
Starting point is 00:00:51 It's hard-lore time. How are you, Bo? I'm feeling amazing today. Me too. Wow. This is a ceremonious day. It's a ceremonious occasion. This is our first ever big list episode on the brand new standalone hardlore channel.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Wow. So we figure we'd go back to basics here. Yeah. Basics, but current. Exactly. We're living in today. We've previously done two compilation episodes of our favorite breakdowns of all time. But we figured a lot of people requests.
Starting point is 00:01:25 more modern stuff. And after that Big Boy episode where he's all about modernity, it just made me think, well, let's talk about 2000 to 2025. So this episode is a celebration of our favorite breakdowns in mostly hardcore music.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Yeah, yeah. Almost entirely hardcore music from 2000 to 2025. And let me tell you, there was a couple of 1990s. where I pulled up Dude, there was a 98 that was going to be in my top five
Starting point is 00:02:01 that absolutely devastated me. That's an honorable mention for sure. It's an honorable mention, absolutely. But what, you know, we try, I tried to keep this also primarily bands I hadn't mentioned. Yes. In previous episodes.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I have like two or three repeats, but I'll explain, they're kind of different bands almost. Totally. But yeah, I did the same thing, which made this really hard. It's it. The first two times we did this, It was just like, wow.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Like, I can pick anything. Which hate breed parts are going to be in the top two, you know? And now it's like, I don't, I can't do a hate breed song. There's one. I got one in there just because what is this list without hayprey? I managed. I managed to do it. Good job, good job.
Starting point is 00:02:43 But let's set it off. So we're each, as we do this with our normal format, we list 15 in no specific order. Right. And then we do it top five. Yes. So exciting. How fun. Very fun. So these are the best breakdowns from 2000 to 2025. I will start with a modern, a modern Titan, a band who I, the expression, it takes time to be timeless, I associate with them every time. The band is King 9.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Oh, oh. Are they high up there for you? No, but they're on. I bet you we didn't pick the same thing. Okay, okay. I picked the song No Dream. I think the Brotherhood denied section into that pit part is absolutely magnificent. This was a comp song.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Oh, that's right. Yeah. They have such a cool writing style. Yeah. Their box, like we talk about, is like not a box. It's a pyramid. Yeah, Gion's box is all over the place. It's all over the place.
Starting point is 00:03:54 It's sick. The box to the uninitiated is what we refer to as certain writers in guitar music have their specific zone on the fretboard where they start a song or they sit or like a key that they kind of always go back to. Yeah. I'm a 7-8-6 man. You know? Yeah. I'm a Slayer scale, man. A lot of hardcore is 0-1-34 in that rage.
Starting point is 00:04:20 That's the Hapery scale. That's my blood type. Yeah. But 7-8-6 is my. box. Yeah, totally. King 9, the box is out of control because John's an absolute sicko. I love it. Brilliant band. Yeah. One of the greats. Can't wait for new stuff. I'm going to go out of the gate with the first one that came to mind. Like, this is almost when I hear the term breakdown, because some of these aren't really like breakdowns. They're more parts that you know people will
Starting point is 00:04:49 pit to. Do you know what I mean? It is a breakdown. Sure. I mean, I went for, like when you hear it you know it type for the list. I also, my big thing here, songs I've moshed to. Oh, interesting. That's funny. Songs I have and would repeatedly moshed. Some of these for sure have and for sure would.
Starting point is 00:05:09 My first pick is by a band called First Blood off of the demo version of victim. The fucking Rambo and then... Is this
Starting point is 00:05:26 Citadun? Is this... That is quite literally when I think of like, it's, oh, it's a, it's like breakdown music. Like a band with a lot of breakdowns, that's like the prototype, the archetype that lives in my head. Perfect. Perfect sample. Perfect china placement. Perfect part for what they're doing. That demo rocks. The demos.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I love that demo. Undeniable. Yeah, the demo and the split. and a couple tracks on California but first and then you get some fruit loops in there yeah and then you but my god some bangers
Starting point is 00:06:05 plus five the chess armor you're just impervious great pick I didn't my mind didn't go first blood but that you know this this is why 2025 there's a thousand new breakdowns every day
Starting point is 00:06:17 yeah you know and we're narrowing it down to 40 so you're getting just a little taste here some good stuff I'm going back to a recent band here. This is the part where I found myself thinking,
Starting point is 00:06:32 oh, this band is serious now. Okay. The band is tsunami. Oh. I think even the band would tell you when they wrote the demo, they had no expectations. They were doing this for locals only.
Starting point is 00:06:45 They were going to be a local band, just doing a demo for fun. Then they did the split with Gulch. Right. And old Mike Dirt put this riff in. there. He picked up his V. And he said,
Starting point is 00:06:59 there's like sweeps and pinches. And this is when I knew this man met business. The song is called Step Up. This is their hardest song. This riff is insane. Mike's playing it by himself every time. I stop and stare every time I see this live in awe. I've never seen him mess it up.
Starting point is 00:07:26 He never blinks. He never smiles. he does a great job. But he's always watching. He's always watching. And this is a modern tightness band. They're drawn their own freaks everywhere they go. And parts like this, you really, you understand why.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Okay. Well, I'm going to keep it local to you now. This is a little bit of a cheat code, but I'm picking a cosmic joke song, Empty Nesting Doll. Let's do it. That's a great pit. Dude, that part is awesome.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And it does, for that style of hardcore, like for fast, kind of melodic, hardcore, but like, you know, catchy hardcore. Sure. Hardcore with hooks, it, you're not going to have a spin kick part. You're going to have a skank and stage dive part. And that's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And from the second- That's why it was first single as well. It was like, it's like their first mosh part. And they wanted it front and center. And it's also kind of the second mosh part. you know what I mean? Because there's the like the La la la la la and it's
Starting point is 00:08:35 It's like a Just like a change of pace In the song That's like a fast skank Yeah Yes And then they give you this part And it's like
Starting point is 00:08:43 That's what I want Out of that style of hardcore Yeah I agree So this was this was really I'm at the top of my list You know like working down So it came to mind Really quickly
Starting point is 00:08:53 Because that part Every time I see them Every time I listen to that That record That's the part that sticks in my head Beautiful Beautiful Beautiful
Starting point is 00:09:00 Beautiful. Harlow Records, 001. Had to, got to represent. Love it. Love that pick. You know,
Starting point is 00:09:07 you're all getting a big spectrum of, yeah, of breakdowns here. It is a, it is a wide term. Believe me, we're going to get into the doldrums of 2005. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:17 It's coming up. Speaking of 2006. Yep. Or, no, when was this? I don't know, four or five.
Starting point is 00:09:25 The band is Hunter Demons. Hmm. Should I wait? No, you didn't pick 100 demons. on the previous list? Or did you, maybe? I think I may have. You did. You did.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Listen, this is, yeah, I didn't. This is 2020, 2000 to 2025. What would this list be without the hardest band of all time? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I'm with you. I just, I will use a concession later on. So please. Yeah, this is 99% un-tapped territory.
Starting point is 00:09:53 But the self-titled? The self-titled. The song is his father's son. This is the Hunter Demons part that gets me every time. I'm activated live. I become an active mosher in the area. It's absurdly hard. It's the hardest part on the record.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I think it's the hardest hunter demons part. So that means it's the hardest part by the hardest band. There you go. Yep. So scientifically undeniable to leave off of this list. And then I love, they keep it tight, real staccato during the first time. And then they... And there's so many reminders on here.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Like, let this list inspire you because it's so important to remember when writing these things that mashability is number one. You don't need to do the most technical thing in the world to create a moshable moment. Sometimes you just got to go gung-gag-gag-gag-g-g-gun-a-gun-a. Yeah, this is a very technical record. Like extreme musicianship. A lot. Like, does some of the solo, like I grew up hating solos in like aggressive music, you know, I just never, it wasn't for me. Loved him on this as soon as I heard. There's a solo in this song. That's like slash-esque.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Where it's like, it's beautiful. It's great. Gorgeous stuff. Technical song. And then you give him a moment of levity with the pit. Oh, great pick. Beautiful. Great pick. It had to be on here. Whether it's on a. other listener on your hat to be on it. Yeah, I'm with you. My next one was a band who are underappreciated, and I know you'll agree with me. Band called New Lowe's song called Hatchet Head.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And dude, the, when they, the breakdown is just that riff, like a little slower, but the way they play it, it sounds like crowbar. It's a total crowbar riff, and I never really put that together. But when I was listening to stuff, putting this list together, I went, oh, like, oh, yeah. Love New Lowe's. Yeah. When the new, when New Lowe's stuff first came out, we like our group were all in. Like that was like the band. I was all about it. Yeah. And then I had the distinct honor of playing drums for New Lows on their only U.S. tour ever. So I, there's a little bit of my heart in New Lows forever. There's this amazing moment where when we practiced, we practiced one time before sound. in Fury, which was day one at the tour. What year was this? 2010. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Practice one time. So I'm 18, 18 years old. The band at the time is, of course, P-Boy John Polly Castro on vocals, Austin Lemieux from Portland, Maine on guitar, and Dave Pallicastro, John's brother on bass. I think it was just a four-piece. I sat down at practice and started playing the intro
Starting point is 00:13:07 to Infernal Machine. by Sand Black Church. Okay. Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag. We played the whole song. Really? Yeah. So that was just one of those things where John is looking at this 18-year-old kid that
Starting point is 00:13:19 just that he barely knew that was playing drums for them. And just like, we had this connection in that moment of like, oh, he gets it. Oh, that's really nice. We found the right guy. It was cool. It's funny that convicted, and I think Harmsway played shows with new lows like throughout the country. but I don't think it was ever on a tour.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Like a tour. You wouldn't have been playing. Yeah. Isn't, you know? It's just like one of those. I only did it the one time, but that's, um, um, my heart is from Boston forever because of that. Yeah. My next pick, bringing it back home, bringing it back close to the heart.
Starting point is 00:13:56 The band is nails. Oh. The song. Is God's cold. Okay. Okay. Good. Because I did wide open wounds.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah. This is, no, I'm going John's cold van. Yeah. This, obviously this record is where, Abandon All Life is to me where they'd realize there was no rules with what they were doing. You know? Man. Like, oh, we can do whatever we want, we can be as hard as we want.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And Taylor, I'm sure, was like, can I do just crazy double base over this? Please. I've been asking for years. Absolutely absurd part. straight palm mutes Gang, gow! Into the God will die with me, lyric. Straight Tom G.
Starting point is 00:14:49 It's, what more do you want here? When I first listened to this, and there's the low, Todd's doing the low under the chorus, the, like, it, like that, that actually is my favorite song on that record. And always has been.
Starting point is 00:15:04 That's that. Yeah, I'm with you. And then, yeah, when Taylor goes into the, down, into the double bass part, at the end is like, man. I also think he, like, on the record, this is kind of where the first time,
Starting point is 00:15:18 to me, where he sounded, he did his live thing record. I see. So it was like, you're getting the full, raw, real live males experience here. This is their hardest song to me. Yeah, I think I agree. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:15:33 It's a good one. My next pick, another band near and dear to you. But it was the first time that we had heard them, and I was like, oh, this band is really cool and really heavy. It's Zabalba. And it's like the first single ever, I think, would have been cold.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And just like, and then into the man and gang and gann. Is that the one with the video from the apartment? Yeah, Taylor Mawching and the house party. So I just like love that because by the time that video came out too, we had slept on that floor. You know, it was just like a nice thing and good memories. but when I put it on yesterday, it was like, fuck, this is so heavy.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And like, very perfectly, like Celtic frosty kind of like imperfect where it makes it like raw and sick. Couldn't agree more. So heavy. It's so real.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yes. That video, that song was like, era defining for California hardcore. Yeah. So special. Can't be replicated.
Starting point is 00:16:41 incredible band. I've moshed for that song 10,000 times, I think. A rare perfect hardcore video too. Because it's... It's just fucking around and it's awesome. Like, I think it's really cool. It's guys being dudes.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah. And it made that video explode. Yeah, I'm sure. That video was a phenomenon. Yeah. Awesome. Great pick. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Fantastic pick. Thank you. My next pick, I'm going out east for this one. going back to, circling back to 2001. On the 1134 album. This is a band called I Rate. Obviously, one of the hardest records ever written by human beings, period. I've previously put CPR on another list.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Right. But I got to set this in stone real quick and put the opening track gone on this list once and for all. The intro is like one eighth of the reason God's hate exists. So I must give it its flowers. I rate, gone. 1134. Opening track. The opening second, if you've not heard it, you will be sold for life.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Enjoy. Very good. Great pick. All right. I'm going pretty far. I think it's 2004 or 2005. Okay. band called Comeback Kid
Starting point is 00:18:16 When Turn It Around Came Out The first song The opening song is called All In A Year I was A still punk Getting into youth crew But interested in heavier music
Starting point is 00:18:34 And this was a perfect Bridge for me It was just a perfect Like Oh this sounds Because it's a guy with like A higher pitch voice So it doesn't sound like
Starting point is 00:18:46 And I thought the And you can understand You can understand them. They're sing-alongs and it's still heavy. It's definitely like a little melodic. But certain bands for some reason just got a pass for that. And I can't explain it. But the song All In Ear, the very first song, there's double bass.
Starting point is 00:19:01 There's a breakdown. It's like I remember being in, I think it was a freshman in high school and just being like obsessed with this record when it came out. This record clicked worldwide, dude. It was it was another, this is another like global phenomenon. And yeah, I don't know. They're still fucking rocking. Like Andrew, friend of the show, Andrew is now the singer and was shortly thereafter, but just still rocking. They played here a couple months ago.
Starting point is 00:19:31 It was straight, strictly hardcore lineup, absolutely insane. So cool. Sold the fuck out. Bonkers. Balls to the wall. Sweat drop down. Yeah. My balls.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Everything. So yeah. First song on the first Comeback Kid record. Great pick. Thank you. I'm staying out east for a little bit. Obviously, you can't even talk about
Starting point is 00:19:56 what modern hardcore has become without mentioning this band. And this, I think, is the hardest part that this band ever wrote. Band is trapped under ice. Ooh, I wonder if we picked the same thing. That'd be awesome.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Maybe. Maybe. To me, this is, having talked to them and picking their brain about it, the ethos and the intention behind the song is exactly what I think about. Every time I write a Mosh part,
Starting point is 00:20:27 the song is too true. When it came out, I asked Sam personally, like, tell me about this. Because I visualize a thousand spin kicks, and he said that was exactly what he saw. It was just like blood and violence and war. And when you get to this part, the Ghana, gana, ganna, ganna, cana, ganna, you get blood and war.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And a young Colin, 18 years old on his first tour, terrorizing Norwegians and Polish people, all across Europe to this song. Nine! Every time, tap me on this older, Please stop! Tasmanian devil. I was Tasmanian and the devil as this song played.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Which record is that on? This is on Secrets of the World. Beautiful. Excellent. Great pick. It's the hardest one? My TUI is in a little bit, so we'll get there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Next for me, I'm also going east. This one is fun because the whole song, minus one fast part, is a breakdown, and it's like a cheat. It's part, fast part, part. Song Call by Righteous Jams called Busted. Busted! It's, what more do you need? Sometimes the guys just got a Busted. It's just kind of busted, man.
Starting point is 00:21:58 It's a perfect, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, gang, gang. Very locking out, very of the time. I, they played during this time period, they played at the Knights of Columbus in Chicago, and they played all of their songs, and people wouldn't stop doing, like, the side to side. Right. Saying, like, one more, one more, while moshing. And, and Joe, was it Joey who sang? Was like, we don't know anymore?
Starting point is 00:22:26 And I think it was this guy, Crucial Kyle said, play it one again. And they played this song again. They just said, all right, just played it again. Sometimes the guy's got to bust it one more time. I don't know. This is just like, it just the other end of the spectrum for me. If first blood is the one end or that 100 demons part is the one end, this is the other end where it's like more like cosmic joke where it's a different part entirely. but it can be just as rowdy and fun.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But this is a band that got everybody. So this makes sense, dude. Like this, righteous jams had the posy kids, the beat down kids, like literally every spectrum of hardcore that exists, everybody was all in on righteous jams. Because the ethos was hard and scary and violent,
Starting point is 00:23:17 but the message and the performance was like welcoming and raw and real. Yeah, very much. It's beautiful. Yeah. Once in a lifetime band. Because if some, like, you cannot replicate talking about playing righteous jams, you know? Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:37 It has to be a certain, it has to be these tenured hardcore music professionals spreading this message. One of the greats. Absolutely. All right. My next pick. We're going super modern with this. This is a band that I refer to as the chosen ones. They're from Oxnard, California.
Starting point is 00:23:58 The band is Terena. This is the part that just knocked my socks off physically when I heard it. And I knew what was coming. It was like, okay, well, this is obviously the band. And then if they do it right, they can have whatever they want. The song is called Bleed. Last year was their first year playing Sound and Fury. Absolutely insane set.
Starting point is 00:24:25 During this song, the fucking sing-along before the Mosh part, kids were on stage destroying every piece of gear. It was chaos. It was madness. But it was exactly what you want. It was the birth of a phenomenon. Terena bleed. This part rocks my socks. I got no more
Starting point is 00:24:43 socks left. I've bled them off because of this song. Love it so much. This part is insane. They truly understand the science of Mosh and as a Mosh scientist myself that I need that. I need to know what your
Starting point is 00:24:58 capable of and this showed me that. I remember that. I forgot about that set, but as you described it, it all came back to me. Madness. Yeah. Wow. I'll go modern too, because I did want to do something that is like a band's most recent release.
Starting point is 00:25:14 You know, I wanted to put... And I went with Friends of the show Missing Link. Fucking... I just went with New York Minute. The window part is scary. Like, it's It's a frightening part to hear.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It's like, I'm coming. Yeah, and just like the way they do it, the riff, it's scary. I've seen it be scary. And I don't know. I think that is probably my favorite record from last year. I mean, it was the 2024 Hardlaw Award winner of album of the year. So I would. But, of course.
Starting point is 00:25:56 But, yeah, I just think, like, I want to put the award winner and my favorite record. want to give them some flowers for the part, you know. Fantastic pick. And, you know, they're out here doing it now, you know? They're doing it for real. Outstanding band, outstanding group of guys. Love to see them win. Deserved the hell out of that award.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Incredible record, incredible part, incredible song. I love to see them, like, higher up on bills now. Yeah. And, like, the reactions they're getting. It just feels, it's nice to see the good guys win, yeah? Speaking of the good guys winning My next pick is perhaps the song
Starting point is 00:26:38 I've physically moshed you more than any other song. Interesting. In the history of music. Really? Yeah. This is a band I've toured with a lot. Is it a terror song? And I've seen so many times And it's so beloved to me for so many reasons.
Starting point is 00:26:55 The band is Harm's Way. Oh, no. The song is Breeding Grounds. I could be. in a coma, medical, induced or other, breeding grounds would pull me out.
Starting point is 00:27:19 The breakdown part specifically. Oh yeah, bottom one, that was a Chris Mills riff. By way of some things, but that's what you want. Wolverine blues,
Starting point is 00:27:36 for sure, for sure. That's what I want, is I want to hear a modern artists take on something perfect and classic and this is a modern classic isolation is a modern classic
Starting point is 00:27:50 it's not even a modern classic anymore it's just a classic it stood the test of time you guys made a perfect piece of extreme art and to me this is the centerpiece this is the piece de resistance from the second the song starts you know
Starting point is 00:28:06 something's coming it's like a warning it's like the only one we've only ever done one tour where we don't play that song. Like, that's one of the only old ones that we just always play because we still enjoy playing it. Like, it's still fun. Even the, like, the fat, the, g-d-d-d-g-g-g-d-d-g-d-g-d-d-g.
Starting point is 00:28:22 That's fun. It's fun. The Godflesh part. Chorus is fun. Yeah. I really like it. I've always liked that song. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Perfect pit. Masterpiece. Great job, Bo. Well, I'm going to do the same thing. I'm going to hit you. I'm going to turn the mirror around on you. Uno reverse. Wow.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I'm picking, finish the job by God's hate. That's the one? That's the one. I love the part in God's hate. I love that part. But I think from the blast part that is so long, by the way, I still can't believe you let it be that long. I wasn't thinking. And it was not, the first draft was not a blast.
Starting point is 00:29:10 It was a, it was a, born and hard, like, did. I got to do. But I think you made the right decision because this builds, because you don't know what's coming. And then also what I love is the kill-them, like, deicide part fades in. Yeah. If you just started at max volume,
Starting point is 00:29:30 it wouldn't do it. It would hit the same. It would not hit the same. And then that's not even really the breakdown. The breakdown is coming. But often I find there's a couple others on this list. I like the little like the pre-breakdown, like the taste. And that's specifically what I'm talking about in this song.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I think the best breakdowns are due to what comes before and after them. Yes. You know? It's how you get there is as important as what you're doing when you're there. My number one pick is the part before the part. That's my number one on the end of this list. I love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:08 But yeah. Well, thanks, Beau. That's my pick. Thanks, Bill. That song took a long time. So. Paid off. You might not know it, but it did.
Starting point is 00:30:18 My next pick, I'm going late aughts. This band tore up the charts immediately. Everybody's talking. Listen, obviously, we know title fights impact on music, you know? We know how badly people are begging for them back. We understand. We agree. It's time.
Starting point is 00:30:43 But on the other side of the coin, what they were doing with our good friend Sabah and Rifkin was an incredible short-lived band called Bad Seed. I feel like if you got to see him
Starting point is 00:30:57 are you talking about like the Son and Fury that they played I would imagine I'm talking about they played United Blood a bunch they played Sound Infuri they played a rain fest the song
Starting point is 00:31:09 was real rain pour Shinkin Kankankankank Kank Kank Kukkak and then when they do it live, they did it. They played the part again, slower with halftime on the crash. Hit like crack. This is, to me, their hardest part.
Starting point is 00:31:31 This is like a marquee pit moment of this generation of hardcore music. You know, where like, somehow everybody heard this single that was not on our record, you know? Yeah. And collectively understood that this was the, The moment of the night every time. Unbelievable track.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I've told this story before, but I literally saw people getting moshed out of a garage door like Lemmings during this part at United Blood. Because the pit was so activated that there was, people were just falling backwards into an alley. I've never seen anything like that before in my life. It was one of the most violent things I've ever seen. And they were a band who would like play three songs. And like that would just kind of be it.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Short set. Short set. 15, 20. And then like a cover. And that would be it. Dude, I have an incredible story. I have to tell you. And I have to think about how I can tactfully explain this.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Mick Foley was recently somewhere signing autographs and signing some stuff. Title Fight was playing over the stereo. And Mick asked if they could change the music to something a little happier. That's a great band. That's a sign of a great band. Hey. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:52 If the guy who's, the guy who's been hit over the head is like, this is just too sad, I can't take it. The have a nice day guy is like, I'm not having a nice day because of this song. Please change it. You know you've written some, a morose masterpiece. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:33:06 There you go. That's the spin. Morrissey would be proud. I thought that was fun. That is fun. All right. I'm going to go back again around the same time. A little earlier, early 2000s. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Band called Figure 4. I talk about this record a lot. Suffering the Loss is a great record. There's a song called Kill and Deceive. That is so fucking heavy. Canadian Mount Rushmore, as we've said. Absolutely. This record to me, for anyone listening, is like,
Starting point is 00:33:39 the way that we talk about, oh, listen to your favorite bands and rework the riffs and make new stuff. It's like someone doing that with Marauder and I don't know what else. There's, you know, hate breed. There's hay breed scale. front of the show, Stephen. There's... There's...
Starting point is 00:33:58 My friend of the show, Legend. Yeah. There's... My man. There's the part where it goes... Because the whole thing is about, like, falling out of love,
Starting point is 00:34:08 suffering the loss of God, because they were a Christian man. And the end of the song, he goes, liar, your fault. Lyer, your fault. Lyer! It's so fucking awesome. It's so heavy.
Starting point is 00:34:20 It hit hard when I put it on yesterday. Okay. Love. See? It's going to hit like cracking. playlist, which is linked below in the description, as always. Record rocks. Yeah, I love this album.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I didn't know the gimmick that this was like the post-Christian thing. So even not knowing that when I was in high school, I accepted this. I got you. I'm so vehemently anti-Christian hardcore. And I still was down with this. Yes. Because it was like, that's pretty hard. It was pretty fucking good.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Yeah, exactly. So even better now. Yeah. All right. Love it. Great pick. Canada's finest. This episode is brought to you by AG1.
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Starting point is 00:36:57 Taylor works with them intimately band is ingrown oh I had ingrown on my list too the title track for the debut album Gunn they haven't played this the last like five times
Starting point is 00:37:15 I've seen them it makes me absolutely sick this part is sometimes I hear something and I think like I would have done that differently you know
Starting point is 00:37:27 like ah they should have done this this this is not that time. This is the time where I go, I listen to this and I go, not only do I wish I thought of that. Yeah. They did exactly what I would do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:39 It made me feel warm. And it just gave me a good thing. It made me feel like everything's going to be fine. I love Ingrown. I love that there is like a band from Boise that are a collective group of weirdos. It's a miracle. They know I love them.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Absolutely. Who are just killing it. It makes me really happy. Ross's Instagram got hacked the other day. Did you see that? That was awesome. Got by like a crypto guy. Oh, sick.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I messaged him and I was like, give him his account back, man. Come on, man. He got it back. But yeah, the band's a miracle. Both records, absolutely incredible. Check out the new album is called Idaho. It's out now in Closed Casket. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Good song on it called Bullet. Oh, it sure is. Of course there is. What's the song that's, Gung, gong, gong, gong, tiki-gum-gung-gung-gong-gong. That's the, that's the big closer, yeah. Dude, every time that... Da-da-gung-gung.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Every time that you see that live, every time it gets me. Dude, they're a band that wins everybody over by the time they're done. Yeah, I fully agree. Because... Like, even if it's not active when they start, because they're opening for somebody... Yeah. By the time they're done, the whole floor's moving. Also, for all my guitar heads out there who are listening to this,
Starting point is 00:38:55 if you haven't gotten a chance to watch Ingram, watch what Ross is doing. He's playing out of two heads. He's jumping around and singing and the only guitar player, and he will mute one head to make it sound like one guitar is playing a part and then unmute and it's full stereo again. That is not easy. That's not easy without singing.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Exactly. It's not easy to be like Todd has done it. and Ross has done it. Like being a standalone singing dude in an aggressive band like this with stage dives, not easy to do. And then he's doing all this other shit on top of it.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Very, like, very wild to me, very impressive. That's a damn band. That's a band right there. Beautiful stuff. Everything's gonna be okay. Ingrown's hold it down. I got a dark horse pick here.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Something you might not expect. Band called Most Precious Blood. They, on their LP, have a song called Apparition that kind of scared me as a kid. You were such a pussy. The riff is just like haunting. But at the end of this song,
Starting point is 00:40:09 there's like a singing part and I just, I guess you wouldn't necessarily be like killing to it, but I'm imagining a pile on, which can be a form of a breakdown. You know what I mean? Like a big, you know. I mean, the song, I guess the technically the song breaks down into that part.
Starting point is 00:40:25 And it's, yeah, there's like this, La la, la, la, da, da, la. It's like very, there's multiple layers singing, and it comes out of nowhere. You wouldn't expect that on this record. It's really cool. And I probably hadn't listened to it since I was a teenager. And it hit, it hit you crazy style, putting this together.
Starting point is 00:40:44 It was awesome. Beautiful. Awesome. Excellent pick. My next pick. The band is all at war. Man is all at war. And this is a band that, um, whose hardness and mosh science and ingenuity spans multiple generations now.
Starting point is 00:41:05 PhDs. PhDs in mosh science, doctors of spinch economics. They've put out so much music. A lot of music, yeah. And, and most of it is post-2000. Interesting. I think the shining moment in terms of mosh ability happens. on the 2015
Starting point is 00:41:27 Dying God's EP The song is called Vengeance Reigns Eternal They do something that I'm a huge fan of of knowing what you've got with this riff
Starting point is 00:41:45 playing it once and never playing it again Oh of just It's a very Tom G Tom G warrior-esque Dude very economic Very spin kickinomic
Starting point is 00:41:55 For real Exactly Yeah Well we're gonna strategically place this fucking insane part in the middle of the song for eight measures
Starting point is 00:42:03 and you're never hearing it again and we're going to do a whole bunch of stuff after. Wow. And this fucking riff that the gun an out of Adam Gunganum, gumganum, not only the coolest riff on the record, one of the best all-at-war riffs ever. Extremely hard, extremely
Starting point is 00:42:18 moshable. One of my favorite modern breakdowns in history. I got to go, I'm going home. Sweet home, Chicago. Bring it home, this is one of my repeats. I did a different record. So on the first one, I did the killer, American Flag Cauphins off the demo.
Starting point is 00:42:34 This is off the first killer LP. Better to be carried by six than judged by 12. Sorry, I got it backwards. Judge by 12 and carried by 6th. What a brilliant. It's awesome. Brilliant title. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:42:50 And this is the closer, which is the scariest thing when you're seeing the killer. The song is called True Failure. The end one. The end part is... The end part is, in the end, the demons won. What a fucking waste. You threw it all away. Everything we made up in fucking flames, go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And it's just like... It's just heavy. There's no other way to put it. And if you see it, if you see any videos of it, it's when people are committing acts of crime. As it should be. That's what you want. And it's just...
Starting point is 00:43:29 I don't know, formative for me. Yeah, for sure. Because these were the older, you know, grizzled dudes in the scene when I was young, young, were always really cool to us. And it showed me that, yeah, you can make music where people beat each other's asses to and everyone's having a great time.
Starting point is 00:43:49 That's an important memory. You know what I mean? I mean, that's everything. Yeah. That's what it's supposed to be, you know? Yes. Mutual violence. violence for the band.
Starting point is 00:44:00 We're paying tribute to you with our bodies because we love you and this part is so damn hard. Great pick. Had to be on here. It did have to be and there's so, dude, there's several other songs.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I will find a way to put the killer on every single list. You should. I mean, I could have put God For God on mine. That is a part where that'll activate me anytime. Get down, get down, down, down. Hard as shit. My next pick is another hardlaw records release. And on the count of this is something I heard and immediately reached out in every way possible being like, please God, let us help with this in some way.
Starting point is 00:44:43 The band is Mongrel off of the EP, Baptizing the Gutter, co-released by us, released by Days, The Great Days. The song is Tight Rope Walk. And listen, you know I love going pit to pit to pit to pit. Yeah. This song and this pit in particular, I can tell, was written so methodically. Because it has A's and B's and C's and D's and E's, you know? Yeah. We're going back to A and then they're doing a new tag here.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Going back to A and then we're doing this new thing. But it all seamlessly transitions into this thing that's still moshable and not like, overly technical just outstanding hardest part on the record to me this is a band that's just getting started right the masha's just begun I look forward to seeing it
Starting point is 00:45:44 evolve in real time excellent that's almost why I did cosmic joke because I wanted to represent our bands you know got to do it and I had a feeling you would do Mongrel so that that worked out nicely absolutely all right here's my trapped under ice pick
Starting point is 00:45:58 Yeah, I hit me. It's off of the EP, half a person. There's the big ring out part and then the that is a much more difficult riff than it sounds like. They often are with them.
Starting point is 00:46:24 It's with a power cord. It's quick and it's not something I would ever think of writing. You know what I mean? Sure. was, I remember hearing that and being like, what?
Starting point is 00:46:37 The whole, that whole song, does that open? Stay cold? Yes. Or is there one song? There might be a song before it. But that, hearing that, I think that was a single on Myspace or something.
Starting point is 00:46:50 So I heard that first. And like the amount of words he fits into there. Yeah. That still sounds cool. And I'm somehow like registering everything he's saying. and being like, holy shit, this man is fucking back. They did it again. They did it again.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Because this is months after the demo, everybody's anticipating this record. It hits, so it ticks every box, and then this mosh part hits. How about this? The tempo change is queued by a vocal part. And if I never made it, it's slower than the previous part.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And that's just a cool, it happens, but it's a cool touch. That's real band shit. That's not writing alone on logic. on the grid type shit. You're absolutely right. That's the homies
Starting point is 00:47:35 collaborating. Yeah. It's beautiful. That's human humanity. Yeah. I love that riff. Incredible riff. What a band.
Starting point is 00:47:44 What a record. Great pick, Bo. I've got a modern, great up next from Detroit, Michigan. Band is never-ending game. They're another band with a silly demo that was way
Starting point is 00:47:57 better than it had any right to be. The LP is where they start taking things seriously. Song is God forget. It's a minute and a half. Perfect. And it's an incredible reminder of you don't need to do too much, man. Sometimes you just got to go shun-kun-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k.
Starting point is 00:48:19 But you got Derek on drums who's always doing... He's... You're not going to expect the little kick accents he's going to do always. He's always there to spice up. You can always just play with the riffs playing. Of course, yeah. You can just match the points. Or you can show...
Starting point is 00:48:37 you can be like, I'm a fucking drummer, and I'm going to drum this part up real quick. So there's just a little extra sauce in the song overall, the like, that leads to such a satisfying culmination here. This is my favorite never-ending game song to this day. I think it's the closer still. Hard-ass song. It's very inspiring just to see what can be done in a minute and a half without compromising anything. about your band. Hard as shit.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Legendary. Belongs on here. Yep. Period. Great pick. Here's my King Nine pick. It's from the fucking two-song Art of War release. Of course it is. Intro and then the Art of War. And it's specifically, obviously the intro is the intro. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:49:32 And I'm including them both because it's like five minutes total. It's a single. It's a single. The no compromise part. And I think Dan sounds really good on this. It's so raw and like, oh, like he's really fucking screaming. I don't know. I just, I remember when it came out.
Starting point is 00:49:57 I think I have the tape somewhere. I've always been a fan of this one. I love that like, I know that it's annoying as a band to have an old song that people always want to hear. Yeah, but this song is Art of War is on... And the intro, specifically is what I mean, you know? Right, right, right. But they know what they got with this intro. Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And I like that they like lean into it being like, let's jump, let's have fun. We're going to go crazy. And that's... That's timeless, timeless H-C right there. And it had to be on there. It's no longer a modern classic. It's just a classic. Love it.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Great pick. Had to be on here. Had to be on there. Speaking of it, have to be on here. we're talking 2000. I think I put this on a previous list. Say it. The band is death threat.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Songs never again. This is another instant activation type track. It's like MK Ultra. You're in the crowd. You see your hand, see your hand. You just, even if I'm like on stage thinking like I got to play soon or I got to play tomorrow, I can't go too hard. I can't wait to watch death threat right now.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And then it's hat off, phone down. Then I don't have a chance. choice. This is obviously to me a timeless hardcore masterpiece, one of the greatest records ever. The perfect blend of haypery and youth of today. The perfect blend of all things that we love about
Starting point is 00:51:32 hardcore music together on one record. It don't get much better than this, man. And this to me, this is the singular like breakdown moment of the record I would highlight in a 20, 2000 to 2025 highlight reel. Really?
Starting point is 00:51:48 Interesting. Yeah. Cool. To me. There's a couple other ones I could do if I'm thinking like, ah, I already put that. I don't want that. You could put the disgrace pit, you know. There's other things.
Starting point is 00:51:59 But never again, I think is the pick. I'm realizing you just said the word disgrace. And I'm realizing that I skipped my next pick, which is a band called disgrace. Which part are we going? Fucking first song on the LP. The fuck. Gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, dude, the way it switches the gung gung gung gung gung gung gung Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Some of those songs are so fucked up. I can't follow them, but I know that part. You know what I mean? Like, when they give you the parts that you can, that I can follow, because my brain doesn't work like Kyle's. I don't know who's. Nobody does. other than maybe Mike. Mike is somehow able to translate
Starting point is 00:52:54 Kyle's thoughts and I don't understand how. It's crazy. That, I love that release. Is that song True Enemy? True Enemy. True enemy, yeah. Title Track. Love that fucking song. The whole record is great.
Starting point is 00:53:09 But that part in particular, I remember when I first got it, hearing it, and just like, I love a if you can work a swing into a breakdown. And if you notice, the guitar and the bass are playing different notes. And it makes for this, like,
Starting point is 00:53:29 where either one of them alone is nowhere near is satisfying. But doing the two together brings you this full crazy ass-beater part. It's incredible. What a band. Yeah, one of the greats, one of my favorite bands. I swear to God, this episode was really, recorded a month ago. My next
Starting point is 00:53:51 pick is a band called Disgrace. Sorry. No, this is perfect. Yeah. The song is self. This is the first song on Songs of Suffering. I refer to this riff as the Eat a Banana riff. Because it goes,
Starting point is 00:54:15 I'm really, really hungry. I'm going to eat a banana. Eat a banana. There's a guy from here, the first like five times they played, knocked somebody out during this part the same time
Starting point is 00:54:31 every show the first five times it was just complete happenstance just happened to do it every time so this is a this is a one-hit
Starting point is 00:54:43 K-O type part and it's the band is such a like thorough musical flex you know it's like high IQ extreme hardcore
Starting point is 00:54:55 but I also think it's like a platform for your brother to express himself in an unusual way for him. Yeah. Because some of the parts and even like slave to the lead god and you yellow belly fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Like some of it is not the person I think Taylor presents. He's very quiet and reserved. So there's this, there's this like unhinged aspect to it. There's a demon in there. Literally every member is getting to really
Starting point is 00:55:26 kind of blossom. And there's only four guys doing, making this. It's so, somehow. It's crazy. That's the best bad ever. All right. This is another example of like, it's not so much a pit part, but it's one of the most epic things you will ever see. It's have heart, watch me rise.
Starting point is 00:55:48 The closer of their first LP and often the closer, I think, when they play every time. And it's the, it's the, part after a big the things we carry and like everything cuts and it's just bass drums and pat and the sweet redeeming song doodoo ding dooding dooding and it is such a like like I said like I don't really use the word epic because of obviously it can be kind of cringy epic bacon yeah yeah exactly but that is a correct use of the word yeah 100% is the way that they do that and like I said before certain bands have like melodic parts and get a pass have hearts one of them.
Starting point is 00:56:32 They got a lot of hard. They got a lot of hard. They got a lot. Hard moments on this record. Watch me sync is hard, you know? Yeah. But this, this part specifically,
Starting point is 00:56:41 I mean, look at the, the picture that. That Erica took. That's during that song, you know? Yeah. And that's, I don't think that can be,
Starting point is 00:56:49 that has to be put on a list like this. Great pick. Incredible moment. Every time. Every time. Hey. And now it's top five time. It is.
Starting point is 00:57:01 One, two, four, five. Perfect. Okay. My number five. This is timeless H.C. Now, and I'm in the band now, but I wasn't always. And again, I've moster this song, almost as much as breeding grounds. This is the Downpresser intro.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Timeless HC classic here. This is a, this will ignite any room that they're in, that we're in. now. Couldn't believe it from the first time I heard it from the, all the way to the, this is from the Creatures Split. Yep. In 2008, I think. The tour where I saw you and Pomona was the, that was the Downpresser Creatures split record
Starting point is 00:57:49 release tour as well. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So this is, that's kind of a poetic thing, isn't it? It is, it really is. That show is where I met Dan. Right, right. So it's all hard.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Oh, yeah. Wow. Interesting. Yeah, this is, this is what it's all about. Not ever doing the dun dun, with like symbols and just letting that exist solely on the Tom's was such a cool creative decision that like just, it's ahead of its time. Still, to me. My number five, this will not click with anyone.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And I know that, but at the time, mental was the biggest band in the world when it came to this style of hardcore they had a song called it's funny I guess the song is actually called DFJ's Dairy I thought it was DFJ's diary
Starting point is 00:58:44 my whole life Yeah but they fuck shit up Has to be a typo Okay yeah I think it's diary I haven't seen it printed So I guess I don't really know It's a fast song It's about DFJ
Starting point is 00:58:59 Who's playing the drums on the song Yeah And then the breakdown for it is such a exact mental part. And Greg says, kick it. And it's just,
Starting point is 00:59:10 na, la, la, la la la la la. And it's, and it's just, when I, I would be walking around
Starting point is 00:59:17 high school humming that. For years. Like, I can't believe you would look at DFJ's dairy on streaming and be like, I guess that's what it's called. I guess that's what it is. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:27 I know. I know. I didn't, well, it's worse to be wrong on this fucking thing and read a comment than. than to say, this is what it says, I don't know. You're right. That's true.
Starting point is 00:59:38 That's a good pick. And that's very, very beau. It's very beau. Exactly. That's how you know it's true to me. It is a... You're getting different answers here. It's diary, by the way.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Yeah. Of course it is. Christ. Oh, I'm so glad this moment lives forever. My next pick, my number four, from the year 2000. Cold is life. from the declination of independence this is the hardest single part
Starting point is 01:00:09 in their discography the song is called Who holds the truth you get the big church bell you get the rain the horrifying base buildup into this pure pomuted part
Starting point is 01:00:29 absolute chaos destruction carnage every motherfucking man for himself blood horror, who holds the truth? Get out of my way. No friends during the Who Holds the Truth pit.
Starting point is 01:00:47 My next pick. I chose a no warning song on the previous one, but I'm choosing a Suffer, Survive song, which is different than a No Blood song. And that's the section I'm taking. The song is called Scratch the Skin. Song number four on this record.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Oh, interesting. This is after Jordan and Ben would tell you the record is good. Yeah, yeah. Totally. I've heard that. No, but scratch the skin is hard. What's the riff?
Starting point is 01:01:19 So there's a build, right, where it's like... Yeah, and Ben's going, So scratch the skin over in it. And then it goes, I want to get away. Do you know, yeah, that part is hard.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Dude. That part's hard as shit. I think it's actually the heaviest, no warning part. Like, objectively, I think it's, It's the most like, like spin kick mosh part. Sure, yeah, that's a straight breakdown. I've always loved that.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I've obviously never seen him play it. But I fucking love that song and that song. I love that record. That's a great record all the way through. We're unashamed, stuff to survive guys here on the show on the program. Great pick, very bow pick. Thank you. These are very individual top pods here.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I think we're going to have the same number one, and we're going to have to pick different songs. I don't think so. Okay. Well, one of these were going to have the same something, and I hope we pick different songs. Yeah, so I'm sure. There's one non-horhorcore band on my top five. I wonder if you can all guess who they are.
Starting point is 01:02:24 But my number three is a band from Troy New York. This is the evolution of dying breed. The band is called Dead and Dying. The first song from the album, The Prosecution Rest. This song is called Prophecy of Motherfrey. fucking war. Don't get me started on this.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Imagine I just didn't say anything else. Next. From the second this starts, you know you're in for some shit. This is a legit, perfect hardcore song. Insanely underrated. I would like to see this on
Starting point is 01:03:05 vinyl and streaming next year. Maybe we can try to make that happen ourselves, along with Mr. Scott Vogel, who released this CD. I think this is a street soul records production, or something like that, whatever the label was called at the time. It had many different names.
Starting point is 01:03:21 This is, this is, this is, this is legit, masterful hardcore music to me. Perfect track. Incredible lyrics. Production is very clean, but very hard still. It bookends with just this perfect Colin box riff. Yeah. 7-578-5-7.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, 7-5-7. 8, 7, 8, 12, 8, 8, 7, 8, 7, 5, 7. Monochrome is what you are. That's me, baby. Perfection. My number three, which is thanks to you. You turned me into this, and maybe this is recency bias, because I'm putting it so far ahead, so many others.
Starting point is 01:04:08 A little band called Dying Fetus. It's subjected to a beating. It's the fucking... La la la la la la. and then into the so fucking heavy. And then into the... So fucking heavy.
Starting point is 01:04:29 So fucking heavy. That part could go into any of these other bands parts except for Cosmic Choke. And it would make sense. And it would make total fucking sense. It's supremely heavy. And it was, when you were like, you got to get into dying fetus, check out this record, check out this song, this part. And that was the one.
Starting point is 01:04:51 And it got me. So hopefully that does that to anyone else. Sooner or later, we all must fall to the fetus. It's crazy. That's the best. That's the hardest band. That's the hardest band. That's the hardest non-harker band of all time.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Yeah, probably. Speaking of hardest hardcore bands of all time, this is my number two. This is a record. I vividly remember actively watching in real time the release of listening to it after receiving the pre-order, tears in my eyes,
Starting point is 01:05:20 unbelieving of how hard it is. The band is kickback. From the album No Surrender, the song is called No Surrender. A five-minute epic that includes a minute-long sample in French. And I'm still sitting there with bated breath in disbelief
Starting point is 01:05:41 of what I'm here. And then this pit-to-pit-to-pit-to-pit to pit-to-pit part happens, and I know I'm hearing like life-altering music. And that's what No Surrender is. To me, to this day, this is like a perfect record. Everything from production to the rollout to the attitude, the lyrics, the vibe, it does not get better than this for me.
Starting point is 01:06:04 This is no matter how much underdog I listen to or whatever phases I go in and out of, I'm still in my heart forever, the kickback guy. I always will be. I carry a little bit of France in my heart at all times. Viva la France, vive a la kickback. No surrender. the second hardest breakdown from 2000 to 2025. Excellent. Here's where I thought we were both going to choose this.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I'm going with a hate breed song off the record, Perseverance. And I was ready to pivot between proven or perseverance. Depending on what you chose because they're both. So I think if I'm going to choose it, the actual pit part is going to be proven. What's funny is the way I would play it is not how Wayne plays it. He goes, da-na-na-na-na.
Starting point is 01:07:02 He goes, he jumps the string. But I would go, it would be like five. So he goes, so he goes, da-na-na-na-na-na-er. He goes five, five-eight, you know, six-four. Yeah. But I would go five-eight, nine, six, da-na-na-na-a-na, just kind of slide the finger. But that's not how he does it. So it's not how it's played.
Starting point is 01:07:20 But that's just Wayne. That's just Wayne. Watch one of them videos of Sean playing it by himself. to the entire world in Russia or some shit. You might see it. You might see it the other way. This is obviously... Yeah. It's an all-time.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Like, an all-timer. I could cry right now, thinking about... From thinking about the Proven Mosh part, and you think about what this song represents, dude, like a five-year gap in a discography, and it starts like that. Blistering fast, personal, aggressive lyrics into
Starting point is 01:07:52 a part that sounds like nothing they've ever done before but still fits with their vibe. Proven. It's... What do we got? There it is. I am proven.
Starting point is 01:08:16 We are proven. Then, dun, dun, dun, my number one is the only band you couldn't classify as a hardcore band on my entire list. Band is obviously Crowbar.
Starting point is 01:08:28 This is the riff that Kirk himself would describe as go fuck yourself. This is the heaviest fucking riff in the world, bitch. And as soon as you hear it, they played this song live before the record came out, and I agreed. Saw it live and I was like,
Starting point is 01:08:46 that's the heaviest riff I've ever heard. Gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gong, gong, and that's a song about, like, beating alcoholism. Really? You gave me wings and took the sky away. Cemetery Angels Wow Absolutely
Starting point is 01:09:12 I didn't know that Yes deeply personal Yeah And then breaking down And then the There's nothing in the world harder than this to me Great pick
Starting point is 01:09:25 That's the one I was curious Because there's crowbar on the other list I was curious It makes sense to This is so late crowbar And they're still delivering The hardest shit ever
Starting point is 01:09:35 I love it This is the god They're God They are musical guys Yes. Yes. My number one is by Lamb of God. The song is,
Starting point is 01:09:45 now you've got something to die for. There's a pre-breakdown. So the breakdown itself is the vocal pause, and it's, to die for, dun dun, taka-dun-gun-gun-gun-gat, right? Before that,
Starting point is 01:10:04 they play it full-time, and the tempo is a little quicker. so it's burn down a good, gunga gonga gha gha gha gha gha gha gha gna and it's like and it hits so fucking hard and sets up this crazy breakdown. And it's the reason why that big end part works. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:10:26 It works at all. But that that little, you know, 16 measure part is, I think it blows my mind because I know, I'm sure it was just like a throwaway. Well, let's just play a quicker here and then we'll slow it down. Totally. be weird, but what it serves for the song and how it would activate me in the right setting,
Starting point is 01:10:49 shant, but would, could, but won't. Could. It's not going to at a fucking stadium, which is where you have to see them. But when we play with them next month, or I'm sorry, in September with, you know, body count at a casino, I will be very much enjoying this part. And it's just like... You'll be at the Baccarat table. Yeah. going,
Starting point is 01:11:11 no. Slamming. Slamming chips, dude. But, yeah, I, it is firmly in like my favorite. It's like the most perfect utilization of a part to set up a part. I love it. Yeah. Very different lists.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Yeah, very different list. This makes for a very unique listening experience. Yeah, this playlist is going to be crazy. That's awesome. I already love it. DFJ's Dairy and. D.J's dairy. I can't believe.
Starting point is 01:11:40 You just accepted that. You're a special guy. It's okay. Don't worry about it. Hey. Yeah. No. I accept you.
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