HardLore - LDB Fest 2023
Episode Date: March 23, 2023Colin and Bo recap LDB Fest 2023, which they attended in full (and then some) From great sets across the board, to terrible stage dives, to the many nights in casinos in between, enjoy this thorough b...reakdown of LDB weekend through the eyes of HARDLORE. Thanks to LDB for having us, be on the lookout for everything we filmed in Louisville very soon. Join WHATNOT with our special little link to get $15 off your first purchase. Get ready for the first ever Hardlore live auction TOMORROW, March 24th: https://www.whatnot.com/invite/hardlore Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe Check out our merch at https://knotfest.com/store/?view=hard... Find all of our videos at https://knot1.co/3vWXsbx #HARDLORE #LDBFEST HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER For sponsorship opportunities, email us! info@hardlorepod.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Transcript
Discussion (0)
It's Hardlors time.
How are you, Bo?
I'm sick.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
I'm sick of your crap.
I thought I was sick from casino smoke and just like talking a lot.
Uh-huh.
And then Sunday night, Monday morning, it was like, I'm sick.
Wow, that's crazy.
I feel so good.
What'd you have for dinner?
It's 3.20, brother.
What'd you have for lunch?
I had the same terriacchi bowl I eat every single day.
Okay.
All right.
I am full.
What are we talking about, Colin?
We're talking about LDB Fest, 2023, a smash hit.
This flyover state has made themselves undeniable.
That's a good way to put it.
You know?
Yeah, absolutely.
From undesirable to undeniable, as one Nepo baby wrestler also says.
I'm trying to think of
like maybe the first time I had been to Louisville
and I think it was with like
expire and Rattletooth Haram's Way of Tourd
and it was 12, 14 years ago.
And it was probably pretty good.
It wasn't.
Oh, nice.
It wasn't.
Well, no, so my point being, obviously,
is that it went from something that were even expire there,
which at the time expired in Louisville did be...
Expire was the chromags.
Exactly.
In whatever year that was.
Dude, I'll never forget during one of the bands.
So it was at like a vets hall.
And I was standing in the back kind of like where the bar was.
Someone grabbed an American flag, like the flag that was like in a thing.
It was like, uh, you know?
And this guy came out, an older guy,
and looked straight at me.
And he went, we don't take abuse on the flag.
I just went, okay.
Yeah, I was like, all right.
And James was probably behind you going,
hell yeah, man.
No, I don't know.
Me neither.
the first time I played there was also probably with expire
it was like a Soul Search Minus
tour
It was the chestnut house
Historic place where people lived and died
And moashed and survived
While on tour
Yeah oh yeah I've spat on the stage where I then slept many times
But that was
That was one of the first good twitching tongues
sets was Chestnut House.
How about that?
One of the first like three or four ones where we were like,
we maybe got it.
This guy,
this guy that sang in that another mistake band that just played knows some words.
Yeah.
Cool.
So the point being obviously that it went from a not great vet hall show or a good,
but surely not very attended house show.
No, but I was like, I mean,
it was probably 30, 40 people, but looked, felt insane.
But yeah, comparatively, it's now we have 2,500 tickets sold.
Is that, is that true?
Yeah, it was like 2380 or something.
I don't know.
I heard someone say a number and it was like, oh, that's a lot.
It's a lot.
I mean, think about the other LDBs we've both played.
We both played one where that felt like a show in a venue.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And I didn't go to the,
like the golden year that everyone references, which I think you did.
It was like either last year or the one before, 22 or 21.
Last year was the one that God's hate played.
We played last year and it was amazing.
I think it's that one then.
It was a different venue than this year, right?
Yeah, it was.
I really liked that venue.
And then we play.
And then the last, Twitch and Tunes has not played a show since LDB 2019.
Is that the skate park one?
It's the skate park one.
I love that.
The skate park was sick.
It sounded cool.
Bad.
I mean, so did this one.
It's a bunch of pine.
Yeah, yeah.
The big of the room, the hard, you know.
Harder than it, you need, you need max bodies to make a room rock.
And, you know, when you, one person doing sound for a whole day is never going to work.
Your ears need time.
And for all the, just the kinds of bands.
All the kinds of bands.
A really good example of that was going from Choir Boy at the AFI concert, who did not sound great.
And I love choir boy.
Yeah.
But that's, and that's like an adaptation to a venue of that size.
Of course.
And probably a house song guy.
I don't know for sure.
I'm just guessing.
But then Chelsea Wolf sounded like a billion dollars.
Dude, Chelsea Wolf sounded like a Lakers game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the best way I could describe it.
Yeah, it sounded fucking crazy.
It was crazy.
So that's just an example of how, like, it's hard to have one house sound person.
Yeah.
It doesn't, it just doesn't.
It's never going to, it's okay.
That's okay.
That's part of, that comes with the territory with fest.
So Wednesday, I met you guys at O'Hare because you had a layover.
Yeah.
We had Rons.
Oh.
Terminal three.
We geared up.
We soldiered up.
met our boy.
You were angry.
You were angry.
I've been flying all day.
You just got there.
Yeah.
Strolled right in.
Pre-check.
Always the best decision.
It's insane to me
that Chicago
just has a two-hour
direct flight to anywhere
in the world.
What's up with that?
O'Hare.
It's just O'Hare.
That's the price
of the brutal
nuclear
winters.
Is flying
is kind of
Good.
Kind of good.
Kind of okay.
Yeah.
I don't even,
yeah,
we've talked about this before,
but I don't even like O'Hare,
but I guess it just is the hub.
It's convenient.
There's a,
there's a,
there's a layover everywhere.
So it's easy.
Uh,
yeah,
ate McDonald's Wednesday.
Got to our,
got to the Caesars,
Southern Indiana,
baby.
And then,
and then it be,
it truly.
Did we go that night?
Yeah, we did go that.
Yeah.
It started,
it started out pretty dark.
Um,
you know,
my ATM max for withdrawing is $500.
Oh,
you're going to share that.
Yeah,
it's fine.
I'm going to get into it.
Because we're going to,
this is the full hardware experience here.
Yeah,
yeah,
you're right.
So you can generally make something happen with $500.
And on some slots,
you know?
Generally.
Generally.
Needless to say,
at the end of Wednesday,
I was down about $500.
Just the,
Just about $500.
And that was the end of that night.
I was like, you know, tomorrow I'll regroup.
I'll come back.
I think.
And I'm going to get it all back.
I took 100 out and I made 100.
I left 100 up.
Which is like not crazy.
No, but it's nice.
That's a great night.
It's nice.
Yeah, of course.
If you don't lose.
If you don't lose.
You're a millionaire.
Totally.
You're so up.
So great job.
And then.
Was that?
Did we go to bed and then somebody went back in the next morning?
No, that was Friday.
Thursday was very special.
Well, first we had Waffle House.
Was that Wednesday?
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, Thursday morning.
Oh, yeah, that was fine.
I had a great time.
It was fine.
Okay.
This, to me, the two Waffle House visits we did this time
reassured me that I'm like, yeah, it's fine.
You know?
If it was here, I would never, ever go.
I'm glad.
But because you and I can go twice a year,
I can't wait to go next year.
Twice.
Okay, fair enough.
I got you.
Thursday.
Thursday, we hung out with the mayor of Louisville.
We really did.
All damn day.
Oldham County's finest.
We made a film.
We made a full-length film.
We made a full-length feature film.
We made a full-length feature film.
with Mr. Brian Garris.
We explored
his city.
We started at quills where we went
every day. Did we go every day?
Every day. I got quills every day.
I did too. Even on Monday,
we went. There we go. We got quills every day.
I don't want to give away the whole
No, no, but it was cool.
We just talked.
And Brian,
he's a really quiet guy.
and kind of reserved, but were buds, so he kind of blossomed a little bit.
It wasn't, it wasn't an interview.
It was just three, it was just guys being dudes.
Which is always fun.
Nothing better than that.
So that was great.
We had a hot brown.
Had the hot brown.
Which is.
You can know, they can wait for the, wait for the movie.
It was, okay.
It's fine.
I did it again.
I did it again.
Thursday night after making the movie.
And again,
my daily ATM withdrawal is $500.
So,
you know,
I hit Huff and More Puff once more
to get revenge.
And needless to say,
by the end of this night,
I was down about $1,000.
But it's like,
but I've been there before.
And if you,
the only thing that you have to remember
that you can apply to every,
aspect of your life.
Ready?
You those?
Yeah.
The only way to be sure
that you will fail
in anything
is to quit.
You miss
100% of the shots
you don't take.
The only way to fail
is to quit.
It's the only way.
You got brutalized.
I got brutalized.
I was fucked.
That was fast.
That was fast.
So fast.
That was when you were destitute in the elevator.
Yeah, I was not feeling good.
Because, you know, you hope after the first night, you're like, this is $500.
I'll get that back someday, you know?
The next day you go, $1,000, I could have used that.
I believe the word ruined was used.
I'm ruined.
That's what I said.
Friday morning, after the T, after the, uh,
The, the, the, the, the, the movie, we're ready, Friday morning, we're ready to go to the show.
I'm up about an hour before y'all.
So I said, you know what?
Considering my ATM cash withdrawal limit is about $500, I might as well go one more time.
Needless to say, before the show, I was down about $1,500.
Dude.
You were describing addiction.
No, no.
How well.
I'm describing not quitting.
I'm describing work ethic.
This is what Earth Crisis was actually talking about,
about the new ethic.
Gambling until you win.
Eventually, you have to win statistically.
Right?
So Friday was the first day of the show.
Yes.
We're 12 minutes in.
We'll just dive right into it.
I mean, I'll talk about anything else.
I was trying to talk about a hot brown.
and you shot me. No, no, no. We'll die. I'm just, I'm doing this podcast joke, you know.
Oh, I got you. So we'll just jump right in. We'll jump right in.
Cold like the dickens. Man. It was colder there than it was in Chicago.
Dude, it was crazy. Thermonuclear. It was rough. And I prepared for rain Friday. So all I have is my
gorgeous waterproof God's hate jacket, you know, my only rain coat, which is flea slant. So it's
kind of warm, but it's not like Arctic
Alaskan winter.
It's not arctic. It's not.
No, it's, which even that I was told
wasn't doing it
for the nuclear
German winter that Louisville was for some reason
happening.
I mean, we could just go
straight up. Well, let's talk about
I think we talk about all
the ups and downs. The initial
down? Parking.
Parking.
It was a bit of a mess.
Everyone parked in a lot across the street that apparently was no good.
And how would they know?
How would anyone know?
I guess somebody blocked in a truck.
And that's why then they were like, okay, called tow truck.
You know what's funny is when we were looking in that lot?
We were like, how's this truck getting out?
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
And he said, he came in later.
He said, hey, I'm getting out whether y'all move or not.
Apparently parking was okay at the Marriott, which we found out,
or at the like abandoned under construction hotel.
But again, we didn't know that.
So I was just,
I was driving around to a fucking rental just being like,
fuck.
Mm-hmm.
Just so mad.
Park of the Marriott was,
I took the risk,
was ready to be towed, didn't give a fuck.
And then we were in.
Dude,
we checked in.
Everybody was cool.
Pass was ready to rock.
Alex had texted me earlier in the week,
asking what we needed,
took care of us.
spectacularly.
Yeah, that felt really good.
The room, they put us in a nice little room,
which is like,
we're just starting doing this, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
We don't know what we're doing yet.
We get there and we hope for the best.
Yeah.
And so far, everybody's been so fucking sick.
This was like my favorite one
because there was no, like, I, like,
I don't want to sound like a dick,
but like we didn't have to ask.
It was just like,
we're excited that you're here
will this be enough for you guys
to which I mean our name
was on the flyer yeah
yeah that was cool that was cool
it's on the shirt too which I'm bummed
I didn't get a shirt
yeah
they're redoing him maybe I'll ask you Alex
that's nice first one
first one we're just a week
couple weeks shy from year one
your wife told me
it's April 27th
that was the first one
so we're just
We're just almost there.
And it's been, what a crazy year.
Let's,
let's start it from the top here.
The lineup?
Yeah.
Who opened the fest?
Dose.
Aha.
Midwest H.C.
Two days in a row,
a Midwest band opened,
which,
that's nice.
That's cool.
I feel like that's appropriate.
I, all right, listen.
Iowa is Midwest.
Yeah.
That's midwest.
to me.
That's where all the corn comes from, right?
Quite a bit.
But I've gone on record,
and I've gone on many tangents,
and this is the start of a brief one,
in saying that I don't like the Midwest,
meaning Milwaukee and Lawrence, Kansas,
and Omaha, and Oklahoma City.
Like, that's just like a crazy big region
that doesn't make any sense.
Where does Midwest,
comfort. I have no idea, but it's
bullshit. The middle
of the west or the west of the middle?
It's, I believe it's your
midway to the western part of the
country. Chicago is
not bad. Just say mid. Yeah,
whatever.
I'm very, I love the term
Great Lakes. Yeah, yeah.
You're a Great Lakeman. I'm a Great
Lake Head. You ever swimming them, swim in
them lakes? Yeah, as a kid,
we would go to Lake Michigan, the
lake that's right off the city, but like,
it was sometime in like 2008 or something,
there was an E. coli breakout from sewage from Milwaukee.
And now when you go,
there's like a flag that says like low E. coli today.
So I'm just, I'm out.
Perfect.
I'm checked out of all.
Okay, that's where all the Chipotle lettuce comes from.
So dose opened.
Think I care vibes.
That was your assessment.
Yeah, very think I care vibes,
which is like good.
And I kind of feel like maybe that style of hardcore is kind of coming back.
I love stuff like that.
think I care.
Knife fight.
Piss, mad,
mad and fast.
Floor Tom,
you know.
The face is searchman.
Yeah.
Yeah, good shit.
The cool thing,
and we'll get into this a lot,
but like,
there truly was no bad set.
How can that be?
Like reaction-wise,
how,
how are you all doing that?
Every fast has...
How do you have the stamina for that?
Yeah, it's crazy.
It was crazy.
I mean,
I really,
really,
More than any other fest, I think that was the vibe here.
And, you know, this, this, this, this fest skewed younger.
Definitely.
Maybe not so, not necessarily just in age, but in like, age in hardcore, you know?
Like the how, a lot of newer fans of the genre here, uh, who were going off all day, which is, what's, what is, what can you hope for more so than that, you know?
Yeah, I wonder if that's a testament to, like, TikTok and 8-5-6 and YouTube and possibly us and, like, whatever, kind of getting newer, younger, less experienced people into this thing.
I'd like to think a little bit.
You know what else I was thinking about, dude?
How amazing would it be to just see, like, a 0.1% bump in McDonald's sales accredited to Hardlorn.
Like one year ago?
Just one little bump.
Like something happened.
I don't know what's going on.
It's, I mean, like that happened.
Of credit has to, right?
That we made a difference.
Like, irrefutable.
So I would love it if they could show me some fucking respect.
Because by this point, I'm down $1,500.
You know, and I know Ronald's got that.
He's got.
Who was next?
And again, Ronald, my cash withdrawal limit.
It's about $500 a day.
Age of panic was next.
Age of panic from Kentucky.
From Kentucky.
So we got some locals.
Yeah.
Kind of metalcore-ish.
Kind of, yeah, a few of those panic courts.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And again.
People moshing the whole time.
And there was a fucking, you know what I think is brilliant about this fest?
There was a Twitch stream, the entire fest.
Yeah.
So literally anybody in the world,
if you have FOMO or you can just watch the whole thing.
Dude, you could just watch it.
You can subscribe to the channel,
which is a way in which you can support the fest.
That's cool.
I'm sure I didn't check,
but I would hope they had their donations and tip jars
and everything set up.
How cool is that?
I'm sure other fests and stuff have done that,
but I've not seen it presented in such a way.
That's fucking genius.
I am I agreed.
And, you know,
right now while I'm looking at,
I've said things skewed younger in hardcore,
years, but looking at the
lineups for both days.
It skews younger in bands
as well. Like,
very similar to the Sound and Fury
structure where it's
like, hey, most of these bands
are new to all of you.
Check them out. And they're
fucking all going to have a good, really
good set, which was very impressive.
My boys, upon Stone, we're next.
They're from
Los Angeles.
The Valley. Yes. And they're
Taylor recorded them?
Taylor recorded.
him.
Xavier sings.
Gage plays guitar.
Drummers a fucking machine.
Yeah, it's very...
Place to a click.
Oh, he plays to a click.
Yeah. Very
melodic. At the gates.
Very at the gates. Very Gothenburg.
Straight up.
Yeah. Yeah, this is like, it's like a hard.
It's like an impossible band to Mosh to.
Yet some found a way.
Yeah.
It's more of like a...
Hi.
Ha!
That guy.
Yeah.
Hi.
Once they have long hair in a year, it's fucking game over.
They're going to be huge.
Hold my own up next.
Chicago.
Sir Greg.
Shane Merrill.
Paul Chetto.
Chicago, Jersey.
Connection.
That's right.
We did a mini with Greg about Hold My Own and about the Mongoloids.
Yes, we did.
That was a really good conversation.
It was really good.
I had a good time during that.
and his kind of his journey from mongoloids frontman to like business manager to the stars essentially literally
which was really really cool really interesting and not a thing that a lot of people know about him i think
i don't think so i didn't even know like the guy from the mongoloids is man is like ticto absolutely
murdering it you know he knew so much about ticot analytics and stuff that like right off the rip that that that i
created the hard lore TikTok.
On the spot.
Yeah.
On the spot.
So if you're on TikTok, follow us.
There's nothing posted yet, but there will be.
It'll be good someday.
He and I will do like,
we'll do dance.
We'll learn to renegade and we'll fuck some shit out.
Dude,
I'll be doing the ring.
I'm bringing back.
I got to do the Help Me Challenge with you.
Yeah.
You got to do that.
Help me.
Just scare the shit out of you.
Well, hold my own fucking rocks.
This is the,
They're always playing really early whenever we get to one of these fest, so we miss them.
This is the first time.
Yeah.
We were able to just watch Hold My Own.
Yeah.
So great job, hold my own.
Yeah, right.
That's right.
Spy up next playing early as hell for a band their fucking size.
Are they big?
I don't know a whole lot about them.
Yeah, yeah.
People love Spy.
They're Bay.
They're Bay.
They're Bay Area.
Bay Area.
Punk shit.
Again.
Very bad.
Not to objectify here.
I'm not saying it this time
you're gonna let me do it
I'm gonna let you say whatever
Yo the singer's got a fucking hammer on him
Peace on him for sure
Congrats
By
They've had an amazing year
Straight up
First time I saw him was at Soundofuri
Yeah so
And they're like doing it doing it
So it's sick
And again had a great set
Like I said I like that kind of music
I'm more punk
Yeah yeah
I lean punk
I know you are.
M-A-D.
Mutually assured destruction.
Mutually ace destruction.
Yeah.
When they were playing,
is right when we, like, kind of set up.
Yeah.
Merch stuff, or like they started
when we were standing over there.
So we were able to, like, watch them
because it's a straight shot from the merge doors.
From the back,
it's interesting how different
the fest feels from the back of the room.
If you took a picture from the back of the room and said, this is somebody, they would be like, damn, not a lot of people, huh?
And then from the stage, it's like, it's the Pacific Ocean.
A thing happens where there's like diminishing returns with capacity.
Yeah.
Or if you have a room that can fit 2,500 people, that also has to fit like three square feet per person.
So it makes the room fucking huge.
There was for sure.
I mean, I would imagine some like COVID capacity restrictions were happening.
Probably.
But like if you think about
Think about any arena
How many people you could pack
Oh yeah
There's so much space wasted
One more billion
Yeah exactly so it's really
Just that
Yeah but then when you get up close
You can see it's like oh it's lit
There's the whole time
Yeah
They sounded good
Who's nice
We did our we sold all our boxes
Between this
Yeah
So that was fun
That was awesome.
We got to meet people.
I kind of liked that.
I loved it.
I also liked that, like, you and I did not have our thing set up for more than, what, two hours?
If that.
And I like that.
Because, like, I want to have our stuff there.
I want people to be able to get it.
Obviously, like, selling stuff is cool.
But we realistically cannot sit there the whole day.
Nor do I want to take away from the pool.
There's only so much money.
For you, it's about $500 a day.
For me, it's $500
cash withdrawal limit.
And, you know, I don't want to take away from the money
that could be going to touring pants, blah, blah.
So I like that it was like, we had very limited stuff.
We brought it.
It was, we said hi, we were done, and we moved on.
And I think that's kind of the,
not to spoil, though, like the question section later,
but somebody asked, like,
did you mind me punishing you between?
And it's like, here's the thing you got to understand.
I spend every fucking second of my life on this goddamn show
like every second of it
so when somebody comes up and is like
hey
I like the show
me being like fuck you
would be the most insane
like oh thank you for liking the thing I spend
every second of my life doing
and we've said this before like
or at least I know I have like
we are shit
like hard looking
is not shit and would not be anything
if not for people listening. No, that's the only
reason we're able to do this is because people
have responded to you.
Truly. It feels good.
It feels good to be quote and quote.
And it's just to think about like
what our goal was
a year ago. It was like, yeah, let's tell a story
for 30 minutes. That really is it.
That's it. And then it turned into this.
We had now we're live
reporters on them. Yeah.
So thanks. You did that.
Volcano was next.
maybe my top three sets of the weekend.
Set of the day, I would say.
Yeah.
They sounded fucking bananas.
Incredible.
This was the one where I was watching them from the doorway.
Yeah.
And you were like in my ear just going,
this is like the most you thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It really, really, really is.
It's like irate,
but like,
dumber on purpose,
which is smart.
As I say, smart to be dumb on purpose.
I really enjoyed this set, this performance.
I had a great time.
And you know what's funny?
Is Volcano is the name that I had heard on Twitter and stuff?
And I just didn't check them out out of, you know, whatever laziness or whatever.
So when I saw that they were playing, I was like, okay, this is going to be sick.
And I was like not even a little bit disappointed.
So that was cool.
It was good.
It's members of Sangu Kvibag.
Oh, yes, Cody.
We talked to Cody.
Did a mini with Cody about, mostly about volcano and being very high.
And that was fun.
That was a good one.
I enjoyed that one.
That was a very fun one.
Yeah, that set was incredible.
Had that had a great time.
Last wishes up next.
UK shit.
Shout out Adam Kelly.
UK shit.
This one, this, last wishes is like TUI meets Oasis.
You know?
Yeah
No this is but I saw them before the children too
So now that I kind of knew the tracks
I was I was really psyched about this
They're good, the strip's sick
Are they touring? Do you have any?
They're doing a lot they're here all the fucking time
Like are they here touring or they
I don't know
Crazy but man like the first time that I met
Adam and the broken teeth guys was my first
European tour so 13 years ago
Was that Alpha and Omega?
It was Alpha Omega.
they played like a little small fest
his symbols were broken
I remember being like
yo the dude with the broken symbols goes pretty hard
yeah it's weird
weird to think about how many
how long I've known some of these fucking people playing this
but yeah last wish is sick
bomb it fourth
the DM homies
yeah
what a fucking band
really cool
god damn really rowdy
Yeah, it smell good.
They smell real nice.
I love all hardcore fests right now having like a thread of death metal just running through it all.
It's a taste.
Just a little sprinkle.
A little sprinkle.
Yeah.
I'm all about it.
I know.
Like I'm playing with them the day that this episode goes up.
So come on to midnight hour tonight.
Don't afford dead body.
That's a good.
Come on out.
Yeah.
This was where the parking.
thing happened. So there was a mass exodus
while they played and it was still
incredible. Yeah, a guy
from the venue, like a townie
stood up in the merch room and was like
if y'all parked across the way,
they're towing. And people were like
freaking out. There were hundreds
of people left. Yeah.
And they, but nevertheless, they
persisted. But I talked to
the townie and he was like,
you could park at Marriott or
the other one. And I said
thanks. You went straight to the source.
Yeah, well, why not, right?
And he gave me the firmest pat on the back.
He was like, all right, buddy.
It was like, so rough.
You know who else did that to me?
It was fucking Blake Ibanez.
Oh, yeah, he got you.
When he dat me up, it ended with like a,
God, every time.
Bombing forth, incredible van.
Come see us tonight.
Rob Brigade up next.
They're like a fest MVP the past year.
I feel like
Have they played like every
They didn't play disturbing the piece, right?
No, but I think that's the only one
Because it's more of a show, yeah.
Yeah, I like, I mean, people know them now.
Sets are always good.
This is where I started to see some nasty stage dives.
Yes.
Let's get into this.
Let's get into this.
Because my gears have been ground to the core.
It's a really high stage.
Probably my only real actual critique of the venue itself.
Yeah.
And like I get it.
I get that if you're way in the back, it's,
you wouldn't be able to see anything otherwise.
I understand that.
There's an LED screen.
I think there's ways around this.
The Jumbotron.
Get a Jumbotron.
The F.E.N. also, I'm not trying to say like this fest did it better than
because there's all kinds of shit that go into the fest and plan.
and blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
The FIA stage was perfect.
Yeah.
It's a much smaller room.
I mean, even the,
comparably,
the sound and fury
like little stage in front of the stage.
Oh, my God.
That's the answer, isn't it?
Best thing ever.
That's the answer.
Put a little stage in front of the stage.
Put a small.
Because it's like a platform to sing along.
Yep.
And the perfect launch for him.
That is the answer.
Yeah.
You're absolutely 100%.
That thing is fucking.
agreeing with you, but you're absolutely correct.
Listen, if it makes you feel any better,
I was down about $1,500 at this time.
That will only...
When having these thoughts, okay?
Yeah, mini stage in front is the answer.
Let it be known.
The hard lore stamp of approval is all over that mini stage.
Love it.
But yeah, let's get into dive etiquette.
Stage dive etiquette, okay?
I saw some sickening acts that made me sick.
hence the word sickening.
There's a weight limit.
Do you think there's a weight limit?
No.
I think there's...
It's not about how much you weigh.
It's how you carry it.
What you do.
I mean, yes.
But then also, if you're running full steam
and you're a 300 plus pound guy,
you'll be fine.
No.
No. No.
Yes.
You just got to be graceful.
You got to go up smooth.
come down obviously.
Big Tree do fall hard.
How many fingers are held up?
But Big Tree can be caught too.
Big Tree can be caught, but
okay, what did I say? I said it the other day, and I know it sounds silly, but it's true.
It's like a bed of nails.
Or like a wrestler taking a bump onto thumbtacks.
You don't want your hand to land on two or three thumbtacks.
You want your whole back.
Hold back or front.
But then protect your head at the end.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's, and again, like, some people are like,
don't stage that feet first,
which 99% of the time I'll agree with you.
But you tell me Mike Body can't get eight steps in a headwalk
without hurting a single person.
You're wrong.
Right.
There's ways it can be done.
The science is out there.
The research is there to be absorbed.
It's kind of the opposite of jumping into a,
Yeah. You jump into a pool. You want your, you want your feet first. You want to pet. Maybe that's
where their instincts are. And because human beings are 72% water. So I would see thinking, I'm Tom.
Mitchepard. There you go. But, you know, if you backflop or belly flop into a pool, that's
awful. But at a stage dive, it's the best. It's the only safe way to do it. You want to do a rolling
backflow. Yeah. I mean, I'll
I'll do a
full on spread eagle. Spread eagle.
Do you ever get hit in the nuts?
I got, I landed one time
onto someone who fell back with me.
You, that was me. You crushed
me. No, no, no. This was when I was
a child. Their knee
went up and I landed full on my nuts on their
knee and I pissed blood.
Nice. So I never landed on my stomach
anymore. So you landed on your nuts.
Yeah.
Because I went like kind of
Superman.
Seems like your fault somehow, you know?
They atomic dropped you.
You should have been ready for the bump, you know?
Yeah, you're right.
That's on you.
I did a fucking Mr. Perfect cell on that one.
But where you're jumping is half the battle.
It's 90% of the battle.
You got to scan for the right spot before you do anything.
I saw a tweet like an hour ago of a dude who just full on sprinted.
Did you see this?
I saw that too.
And honestly, he made it pretty far.
He made it pretty far.
but good Lord.
Good headwalk.
I didn't mind that.
When I was,
I mean,
I'll get to this the next day,
but like watching Weapon X
was the only real time
that I was like on stage the whole time.
Focused.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
And stage hours were very stressful for me.
Saw lots of people hobbling out
after that first day.
Like during terror,
which we'll get to,
I saw definite sprained ankles,
definite EMTs.
There's an injury report somewhere.
Yeah,
let me find it.
You want to find that for me?
you find that.
I'll let it in.
Yeah.
I guess there were medics.
There were HC.
medics on standby over by the free
monster tent, which was
exquisite.
Um, hold on.
LDB.
I know you're listening.
Yeah.
Kudos on the monster tent.
Dude.
Holy Lord.
Free monster all weekend for everyone.
That's in, you know, monsters the shit.
That was so cool.
And they have,
they have the green.
sugar-free now.
Can you believe that?
I'm not a huge...
I mean, the white monster is like...
Truly, I've been a Red Bull guy my whole life
and, like, most other energy drinks
make me kind of nauseous.
The white monster is...
It's high art, frankly.
I've told this story.
I'm looking... I'm sorry if I sound distracted.
I'm looking for the injury report,
but on...
It's not on their Twitter.
On Warped...
tour, there was no pop. It was only water or monster. So like, I have a hard time eating a meal
without a carbonated beverage. Uh-huh. You know? So the closest thing was the white monster.
And I had so much of that, that it burned me. But now that they have the green sugar-free,
I'm all in. And also the tour water. Delectable. I can't wait to try it someday. Maybe soon.
Me too. Maybe on a long-term basis.
I'm still looking carry on.
Um,
Vamacara Vermicelli was up next.
The hometown boys are back to rip it up.
New record coming out.
Close casket.
New LP, it fucking rocks,
recorded by Taylor.
Set was really good.
This was one where
standing outside for a second,
people were distinctly like,
gotta get in for Vamacara,
which was nice to hear.
You know,
even Andy,
who was with us,
was like,
Mama Cara's fine.
We gotta go.
We got to go.
So that was cool.
It was like that's,
that's the pulse of the,
she's the pulse of the people.
So to know that that's,
where the people's pulse is,
that it's on Bamakara is good.
Pulse of the people.
She's the pulse of the people.
Bamakara,
it has been,
it has been a privilege to see them go from
certified local fucking band.
I remember.
C L.
FB.
Straight up.
like the localist band to like a United States H.C. staple.
I remember seeing the name and just being like, what the fuck?
What is that?
Vermicelli, they've been here.
They've been around.
And they were opening shows for 10 years.
It felt like.
Perfect.
Once again, Alex comes through immediately.
She has it.
She has it on hand.
Are you ready for the full report?
All right.
This is the LD.
This is the official LDB injury report.
What do we got?
She says,
I'm sure there were some that were missed,
but this is what was reported.
44 busted noses.
12 busted lips.
10 black eyes.
9 busted eyebrows,
which those are kind of the same.
10 busted knees.
Everything's busted.
Six busted ankles.
That's going to be staged.
Like ugly or isn't broken?
I think like broken.
Spraying.
Like I counted 44 ugly ass noses.
The ugliest nose.
44 honkers up in this joint
12 knockouts
2 split tongues
Huh
19 like modded
I don't think so
involuntarily modded
Split tongue
Probably bit
You know
Great dude I didn't know I had that to worry about
Yeah right 19 busted heads
Nine busted knuckles
I bet those are related
Ooh two dislocated shoulders
One of which is Tyler
Tyler fucking Juan.
He's insane.
One dislocated pinky, one busted clavicle, which is a bummer.
Done that.
Nine busted hands.
Yeah, that's no good.
Three busted chins, one busted foot, one busted toe.
Toe?
No!
That's tragic.
The bust to my busted hand brothers out there, sisters, everyone else.
I'm sorry for that it's going to affect you for the rest of your life.
You got Arthur ride this now.
I'm arguing with Brody King right now.
I have to put my phone down.
Put your phone down.
Why are you even on it?
Because I was looking at the injury report.
Well, that's double stop it.
We're recording an episode.
You're at work.
All right.
Two witnesses up next.
Louisville, H.C.
Yeah.
I think this was the first band that Isaac played in.
He played in four bands over the weekend.
Damn.
He got me beat.
He's a fucking.
I don't know if I've ever done that.
Four?
Four is...
He played guitar in all four.
Wow, that's gangster.
And he can play other stuff, so...
Oh, you can play drums?
He can sing.
He did one of my favorite.
I don't think this will get him in trouble.
And I think I've told the story before anyway, like a long time ago now, but...
We were in...
It was on the Every Time I Die Tour, we were playing Montreal.
And Eternal Sleep...
opened that tour and it was a pretty quiet crowd.
Okay.
And Isaac did like a guest vocal part and he said,
wake up, you French fox!
And they did his part.
Did they wake up?
They woke right up.
All right, see.
It was great.
It said, home.
Go home.
Fugitive up next.
Fugitive.
So we talked to Blake.
Did it really good mini with him about.
about fugitive and Power Trip and Riley
that was very cathartic.
It's interesting to see a band rise from Ashes
and be like pro.
Yeah, but it's like, and I mean,
it's a band full of pros, so it makes sense.
It's like, impalers, creeping death, Blake.
I think he said it was like the fifth or sixth show
that they played.
And they're just like, yeah, we got to.
I rented,
you know.
It feels like,
it's kind of like
memoriam to bolt thrower,
you know?
Where it's like,
hey,
we know what the people
that like,
that know that we're doing
a new band want.
So here it is.
That's a compliment.
That's good.
That's a good way to put it.
I like that.
Coyo.
A couple of fucking show stealers,
huh?
Yeah.
I said hi to Joe for like three seconds.
Hey.
Yeah.
He's a little puppy,
man.
I love him.
Big puppy.
This was a big old puppy.
This was a fast two where I will say we were like,
we were kind of busy and I didn't really get to hang very much.
No.
You know?
We'd be working at these things.
We really, like.
Damn.
I'm sure it seems like we're just having a ball, but like we're stressing.
Oh my God.
We're bothering people to be like, hey, will you come and talk to us?
You know?
We'll talk about that.
And somebody asks us about that.
Okay.
And but that's the worst fucking part, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
I'd much rather just play as that, you know, that's so much easier.
Yeah.
Because, like, this is kind of our job now.
And think about you at work, you know?
Are you good at your job every day?
Never have been.
If you're listening to this, are you good at your job every day?
So if we have a bad episode someday, give us a break.
Please.
Chill out, dude.
We're trying our best.
Coya was great.
Always are.
Once again, we've seen them 50 times in the past year.
And it's like incrementally better every time.
I've seen Joey's chest more than my own.
100%.
And I will say, let me just say something here.
And this is not, I'm not knocking the show thus far.
Oh, this is tough.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, but the last.
three, four bands each day.
The rock blocks.
There's the switch flips.
And it's like, hey, these are the three, four bands that tour for a living at this point.
And they fucking play like they tore for a living.
And the reaction is like, I need to support these guys because they tore for a living.
Yeah.
It feels different.
So Coio came on and things that felt different.
Yeah.
It changed gears a little bit.
Really good.
Crazy.
Lots of singing.
So much singing.
A lot of diving.
A lot of diving.
For better or worse, mostly worse.
We got to bring back the scorecards.
You know?
The score cards were good.
Review the footage.
You, hey you.
Bad.
You know?
Don't do that again.
No, no, no.
Work on that.
Yeah, yeah.
Karma was next
Chicago. Chicago Boys
Jordan, friend of the show
Third to last
Fellow
Fellow wrestling fanatic
Big time
It's really cool to see Karma
Playing third to last
I would I'd have to guess
I don't I'm purely speculating
Probably their biggest show
I would imagine that they played
They were like first or second
A few years ago
So that's
That's the shit I do like.
Yeah.
The Louisville-Chicago connection is really cool.
And they're like square in the middle of that being from our side.
So that's really cool and really fun and very happy for them.
Congrats.
Good job, Karma.
And then who was next?
Because they had to follow Coyo.
And then Carma had to play before.
Between Coyo and no pressure.
That's a tough gig.
God damn.
That's a tough gig for anybody.
Anybody, dude.
No pressure could really only be followed by terror at this point.
But what's funny is, even if they weren't,
if terror played between Coyo and no pressure,
that'd be tough.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's just like a tough.
And it would still be like, oh, yeah, that's cool.
Yeah.
You know, that's cool that terror did that.
No pressure's on a crazy historic rise right now as well.
They're just the next.
they're fucking Brock Lesnar out there, bro.
The next big thing.
The beast.
The sky is quite literally the limit.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Because they're, they found,
they're appealing to fucking everybody
in this little circle right now
in a way that's, uh,
makes me say, how did you do that?
Again, could I have some,
could you give me some of that?
Please.
Give me, give me a fan or two, would you?
we did a mini with them at FYA that is not up yet
but it was possibly my most favorite mini
very good
a band that historically does not
talk to
journalists which thank God we are not
because fuck those guys right
we don't talk to them either no we're not
and then last up was the
the actual kings
of current hardcore
this is one of maybe all
hardcore. Yeah, I hate agreeing with Brody King about just
anything ever. Yeah.
Anything. But he
says they are the best hardcore band of all time and I'm starting to
pound for pound. Who can argue? What are you going to argue? Pound for pound year
for year, year after year. Track by track. A set list that truly
spans their entire discog. And where
where every song
like the new song starts
and I do the fucking Antonio Banderas
at the computer gif, you know?
The fucking...
Dude, that's from assassins.
You ever see assassins?
No. It's a good movie.
It's Sylvester Stallone
and Antonio
and there are two assassins
who finally Antonio finds out
that he can get sly.
So that's why he's reacting that way.
He's like, oh my God, he's this retired guy
who I've always wanted to go against
is back in the game.
Well, I,
feel that way about terror song
is he does feel he feels that way
about killing his rival
me about
how excited I am when a new terror
song starts. Yes.
Truly the kings of this shit.
The best.
They should headline everything.
They could.
They should be at the end of every show.
All that was great.
You guys remember this one? You ready for terror?
It's just the ultimate
I mean, and it's just like there's so many new people at this show, right?
There have to be.
Just from what I saw on stage diving alone.
Yeah.
These people are new.
Terror is the benchmark that you should look at to be like, okay, what could I become,
what can I hope to be as a band, A, and as people who have been around for a while, just gorgeous.
The best.
Great job.
Terror.
Great job, LDB Friday.
My favorite sets, overall, Volcano, Fond, Fourth, terror.
What do we eat that day?
Cains, we went to Keynes.
Oh, that's right.
After the show, we went to Keynes.
Madness in there.
I'm a bit of a caniac.
You're a believer.
I don't do the sauce still.
You weren't not into it, though.
I didn't hate it.
I did not hate it, but I just, I would never pick it.
Like it's crazy to me that there's no barbecue sauce in that fucking place.
They got what they got.
I know, but they also have ketchup.
It's just like...
That's for you.
The rest is for everyone else.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that was good.
And then what would we do?
Well, okay.
So, listen, I want to thank anybody listening to this.
And especially everybody that bought them.
boxes, right?
I wouldn't have done it without you.
Because I had already reached my $500
cash withdrawal limit for the Friday, right?
Am I right or wrong?
You're right.
I know.
So we go back to home base,
which was, again, Sears, Southern Indiana.
And I wasn't going to go.
I resigned. I was like, I'm kind of not feeling great.
We were going to get there early
the following day because we wanted to do man on the street stuff.
And I was kind of like, you have fun.
Because it was like 11.
It was like late enough.
Yeah.
Where I could turn in, you know.
And then I heard our rooms,
this is the first time where all of our rooms were like facing each.
Semi close.
You're right across.
I was right across from you.
I think I heard Andy's door open and I immediately just went like, hey.
And like,
I was like, all right,
I'll go.
Whatever.
Because again,
if I have cash in my pocket,
which.
It ain't real.
It's not,
it's a right off.
Uncle Sam don't know about that one.
No.
It's gone.
So we went down.
I played Eureka.
Yeah,
classic.
Another Locket Link franchise game.
Which at F.A.
I did very well on.
Yeah.
And the night before,
or the two nights before,
I had put 100 and I left with 200.
So I was like,
okay, that's good.
Free money.
Sat down at this one.
first spin.
Yeah.
$780.
I truly at that moment was like,
if Bo died right now,
my world would be at peace.
The best part was,
is you were like five feet away.
No,
I was at the Eureka next to you at first.
Oh.
No, no, no.
No, no, you're right.
I was, uh...
You were like five feet away
because Andy was by you and she heard the like...
I was on dancing in Rio on...
Yes.
I was on Dancing Rio.
She, like, heard it.
And you literally looked at me like that, like, you gave me like a, like, I don't fucking care.
It's not that I didn't care.
It was, I was.
I was so alone, dude.
I was ruined.
So I was down at, at that point, I was down about $1,600.
This is one more.
And then I was like, all right, he's killing Eureka.
I better get up next to him.
Yeah.
Right.
So at that point, I was down about $1,700.
Right?
Yep.
So I got
I got maybe 400 left
And I'm like listen
If this
I need a miracle
It was it was miracle or suicide
You know
One or the other
I was I was
Let me let me quote you
One of my favorite quotes of the entire weekend
He's playing he's not doing well
I had already won and cashed out
Because I did the
What's the what do you call the safety spin
Or what's the backup spin?
Backup spin and it won
It hit another however much
But then I played down a little bit.
I should get 10% of all your winnings.
Yeah, maybe.
I played down a bit, you know, so I didn't walk away with what I won.
You got to go to an even number.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And while you were playing, you said, I'm about to perform Howard Kiri over here.
Something like that.
No, it was just like if I don't, if this next spin doesn't hit, I'm performing
higher carey in the middle.
And then like three more spins went by and you said, you got that sword handy?
So at that point.
at that point I'm down
about $1,800.
And this is when Andy and I are giving each other
concerned looks.
Do you had no need to be concerned?
She and I were behind you just kind of going like
do we
Do we do?
What would you have done?
Hey.
You think you could have fucking stopped me?
Hey, big guy.
No.
Sun's getting real low.
Yeah.
I knew in my heart.
I was playing huff and more puff.
I didn't get that fucking wheel one time.
in $1,500.
Not a one wheel.
I knew it was hiding.
So I said,
all right,
here's my net worth.
Were you at the same machine?
Because there were two.
Wasn't the same one every night.
Okay,
okay,
okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Same one.
So that was my money I got back.
Yes,
it was.
That's how that works.
I primed it.
I,
I crimed it.
I stole it all that.
And I was doing $5 best tonight.
So this night I was like, all right, I don't care what happens.
I'm just going through the rest of my money, $10 spins.
I was going.
You put in four.
Put in $400.
Got down to about $200.
I think it was like, yeah, like $2.20 something.
Yeah.
So that's like I'm looking at that counting.
Like 20 spins left before I'm dead.
Right, right.
Before I murder myself.
Before there's a crime scene on this floor.
Sure enough.
there was the wheel.
You got three saws.
And I like yelled.
Oh.
The excitement,
something that's,
I think maybe people who don't gamble
might not understand.
Is the communal excitement
when a friend or even a stranger
hits something?
Oh,
the stranger on the machine next to you
is your best friend in the whole world.
It's,
in that moment.
It's like a palpable excitement.
And that's what,
that's what you're chasing.
That's why you don't give up.
It really is.
Because once you feel that,
few things feel that way again.
And which which is like a really positive thing for anybody.
So I get the wheel finally.
Yeah.
Which in Huff and more Puff when you get the wheel,
one of many bonuses happens.
You get the mini,
which at my point was like $100 bucks.
So if I had gotten the mini after all that work,
again,
Hauru Kier, cut off, done.
And no head, no balls.
Or the minor was about $500.
I would have been bummed, but I would have been, all right, that's fuel.
That'll keep me going for another 500 in spins, you know?
Yeah.
Then there's the free games, which in this case was, is the Buzzsaw feature, which is the second best, the mansions feature, which is the best, or the mega hat feature, which is the worst.
Yeah, yeah.
You said when you landed on it, this is worst case scenario.
I got the mega hat feature, which is the worst.
Yeah.
So I'm sitting there counting my days, counting my minutes, really.
But then it was the whole board.
The entire board was the hat.
Yeah.
It was the hat.
And just so that if you're listening and you're following along, when you get these hats during the free games, the LVB official podcast is about fucking Huff and Warpuff.
This is my dream.
When you get these hats, every hat you get that lands on another, where another hat landed becomes a stick hat.
If it lands on that again, it becomes a mansion.
Because it's about, it's a, it's like a.
a big bad wolf blowing the house down.
He's hoffin and he's more puffing.
He's huffing and he's puffing.
So the gimmick,
you want the gold house. If you get the gold house,
you have a chance to get the grand,
which in my case was $12,000.
Yeah, the grand prize. A major,
which was like $1,400.
Yeah.
So I'm like,
I got a good shot.
One mansion, two mansion,
three mansions fall,
four mansions hit,
five mansions hit.
A six mansion hits,
and I can't believe it.
At this point,
I'm like, guys, this could be
a life-changing amount of money. This could be the one.
Yeah. And again, remember, I'm down about
$1,800. No,
more. Yeah, well,
with what you put into the machine. Yeah, I'm down
about, I'm down about $1,50
at this point. Which,
I'm sitting here thinking, I am ruined.
You know?
Mm-hmm. Game over.
Mm-hmm. Perhaps my last gamble.
You know?
Mm-mm.
For the, for the week.
That was my last time gambling that week, for sure.
I don't want to get into the gory details here,
but I got it all back.
Basically, one of the mansions was a thousand.
Yeah.
And you said out loud, like, that's like $1,800.
No.
Right?
No.
It's the only time in my...
It was the only time in my entire life, my experience with you,
where I've seen you be unsure.
about anything to do with this.
Well, you don't want to get your hopes up and be wrong.
Because you start to count your days.
And most moments happen.
So you see the $1,000 one.
You're sitting thinking like, if I'm wrong, that's going to be devastating.
You know, when you have a dream?
It's like you lost another $1,000.
Yeah.
When you know when you have a dream about like getting a PS5 or something?
And then you wake up and you never got the PS5.
Mm-hmm.
That's happened to me in real life with slot machines.
Or I've been like, that's like a thousand bucks.
And then I realize I'm on the one cent denomination.
And it's like 100 bucks.
Oh my goodness.
So that's what I thought for a second was like, can that be true?
Right.
So I got it all back.
You got it all back.
The lady next to you also got a hand pay.
Same time.
That was awesome.
So she and I dapped the fuck up.
Best buds.
Same machine.
Yeah.
She was so pumped.
And then while you were waiting to get paid,
some random lady said on your machine.
won really well
but was playing one set
denominations and won like 70 bucks
she would have won 700 bucks
well it doesn't work that way
it works that way in my head
no it doesn't in your head yes but like
if she was on a different denomination
it wouldn't have hit
because each denomination is a separate computing system
so they don't register like the
what has been spent the same
slot science for you
got it all back got it all back so
if Saturday you saw me walking around
looking like a looking like
fucking Billy
Elliot, you were correct.
I was dancing.
There was a pep in my step.
So smug.
That was so smug.
That's right.
Yeah, I had September by Earth,
winning fire plane in my head every step I took, man.
You remember?
So we went to bed, Saturday, got up.
Went to quills.
Went to quills.
We got there pretty early, but it was cold.
This was colder than,
This was colder than the coldest day of my life,
which was the day before.
The day before, yeah, yeah.
Holy fuck.
This day was cold.
Who opened up this day?
Okay, I've been wanting to talk about them.
Enervate.
Enervate from Milwaukee.
Enervate is going to be playing a lot later next year.
This was maybe the best first band I've ever seen on a fest.
Ooh.
Who did you say that about with FIA?
Someone opened a previous year.
Oh, I mean, New World Man was second, but like I love them already and was very familiar with the demo.
This was.
Enervate I've never heard or heard of and was like crazy at noon.
Yeah.
Like, can you picture right now, moshing at noon?
No.
No.
I don't do that.
No.
But thank God people do.
I'm just.
Yeah, straight up, dude.
You hero.
your warriors, your heroes, all the above.
The set was, the set was like amazing.
Very catchy riffs.
Yeah.
Kind of trapped under ice-ish, in my opinion.
Yeah.
And there's a lot of swag.
A lot of swag.
Very swaggy.
It was swagical.
And swaggy.
You know, they're going to be playing a lot later next year.
Mark my words.
Especially after this podcast air.
After that rave review.
I think you're welcome to innovate.
Great job.
Mouth for war up next.
What do you think of mouth for war?
Mouth for war from Colorado Springs.
Crazy, scary, scary voice.
Hard, very hard.
Very hard.
Your description was cool riff shapes, which I really liked.
So look at a fretboard, draw the S that we all know how to draw with the three lines,
and play a riff around that.
I wonder if anyone's ever done that.
Yeah.
And then, na, nah, na, na, nah.
Exactly.
The swag.
And that's, yes, you're right.
That is mouth for war.
That was really cool.
And again, maybe one of the best second band sets I've ever seen on it.
They were right after Enervate?
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
And both were crazy.
That was the really cool thing about this.
I want to emphasize again that LDB both days, every set was very active, which is not
normal.
No, not at all.
In any genre of music.
You go to fucking Coachella.
Those noon motherfuckers are hating their lives.
Snoozing.
Yeah.
They're bummed.
How?
I wonder how.
Wonder why.
It didn't.
It wasn't always like that.
It's no.
It was not.
But this year it was,
and I think they were just happy to be there.
You know?
That's a nice thing.
It was a nice.
The vibe was.
Very good vibe.
Very good vibe.
Should we talk about the food a little bit before we move on to,
to my clients,
world of pleasure. So when we
got there on the Friday, we skipped this
part. I was
dying. I was so hungry.
I wanted to get down. Yeah, you left me behind
in the trenches, taking grenades.
I walked 20 feet
away and bought a microwaved hot dog
that Andy was very upset about because I thought
I had heard that it was the same as the
red hot, the truck outside, which obviously
wasn't. And then
when you went and got those dogs,
what I told you was
get me something. Get me something
where I wouldn't have to change the sauce.
You got me a plain dog with ketchup.
No, well, I got you a plain A5 Wagyu Beef hot dog with ketchup.
Yeah.
Listen, I can't keep track of your bullshit.
I don't know what you're doing, okay?
I never know what he's doing in there and here.
The dogs were all very cream.
You did say, oh, you know, you said that about the place you went to eat the other
day. That too. They love mayo and Louisville. And let me tell you, I loved it. I had the best time
eating mayo all weekend. There were two food trucks. There was a hot dog place and a Thai place. I guess
the Thai place sold out like right away the first day because they had vegan stuff and blah blah.
So that makes sense. Very cool. So World of Pleasure was eating good. Yeah. Yeah. And then.
Which is great. The Hard Lower Boys were eating hot dogs. We were eating dogs. I'm very sorry to World of Pleasure for
that. But they were great. They were.
Very good.
Up next, my client's world of pleasure.
I'm their manager now.
Unofficial, but you got to go through me if you want them.
We did a mini with Jess.
Did a really fun mini with Jess.
It was very fun.
Steph, their bass player, also sings for punitive damage,
who my brother is at least mixed, if not recorded.
Had like a two-hour conversation with them just about,
video games, which was very satisfying.
Very good.
So when you get your Steam Deck,
we'll be playing with a world of pleasure.
Steam deck's 10% off this week if you're watching this same week.
So I'm thinking about it.
We'll get to the ads.
Maybe we already did it.
I don't know.
Who knows what we're going to do?
World of Pleasure has been a band for,
didn't they say that the she was like,
we had never planned on playing shows.
Yeah, yeah.
She said that they just wanted to do a vegan straight-edge demo.
Which is sick.
No, I really like the idea of keeping hard straight-edge bands alive.
Absolutely.
It died for a while.
They all disappeared.
Because half the country broke edge.
Sadly.
But we got world of pleasure.
you know, Carl, if you're watching this,
they're in.
You got world of pleasure.
I'll meet you on the next teleconference,
the 2023 teleconference.
The draft.
Up next, Bo.
Yeah.
Weapon X. Tell me about your set.
Do you have a good time?
Who is my debut in Weapon X.
Do you have fun?
People were asking me stuff,
and this is probably the best platform to say.
I don't do anything for that band other than play.
So I didn't help write anything that they've put out.
I didn't, I don't help with literally.
I just look good.
You know what I mean?
We ran through the set a couple times on that Thursday before we like went off with Brian.
And borrowed a bunch of gear.
Borrowed from World of Pleasure from Colton.
Are you serious right now?
Are you doing a bit?
Not, well, what did I call him?
Colton.
Yeah.
But his name is Colter.
He did it again.
guys. No, I didn't know.
You were doing the bit? Yeah, I know that you were not doing a bit. You were trying to fix it.
You fucking scum back. Even in my head, I was like, do I go with, because I knew if I called him the right name, you're going to be like, that's not what you called him.
But then I said, I said, are you doing a bit? And you said, and you said, and you said no. No, I, just now. I was, I was. I can review this footage. So I'm going to, I'm going to play it back and in fucking slow mo.
Colton
Borrowed gear
That was not mine
Uh huh
Had just a hell of a time
Getting that tube screamer or fucking
The decimator to quiet
Isn't it isn't it isn't
Oh dude decimit you were using a decimator
That's what was on the board
Oh you have to put that at like
Point one
Yeah
For it to work properly
I hated using a decimator
Yeah
You know
Obviously I'm not shitting on his board
or gear at all.
That's not my intention.
It's all dependent on the guitar too.
It all, everything works together.
I had five minutes to figure it all out.
But play the set.
It was a lot of fun.
It was cool playing in like a band where even like admittedly they all don't like they just want to have fun.
So it's like very unsurious and very just like fun to play and just like a cool thing.
And yet the set was that good.
So what's that like?
Yeah, I mean.
Good for you, man.
It's, yeah, I mean, hey, did everything I could.
We did do a mini with Trey.
We did.
That's right.
He's such a young little whippersnapper.
He didn't take off a shirt.
He did not.
He did not take off his shirt, which was fucking bullshit.
So Trey, if you could send me the sexiest photo you have so that I can put it right here.
Here it is.
God, he's so sexy.
Here's Trey's sexy body.
Yeah.
Did a mini with him.
It was very good.
Very wholesome.
Guy just loves his brother.
and his mama.
Isn't so cute?
The way it should be.
It's very cute.
Pardon this interruption.
It's Manscape time.
Bo.
Tell them what we got.
We got the all-new weed whacker.
This bad boy,
let me show you guys something.
I got them both.
Here's the old one.
Listen to this.
Okay.
Here's the new one.
Oh.
You kidding me.
That's going to whack the fuck out of you.
It's great.
You can use it wet or dry
so in the shop.
or not. It's got replaceable heads. So every couple
months you can be a clean little boy.
And that's for like ears, nose and
whatever? Not, no other
holes. I don't think. I think it's just ears and nose.
I'll find out.
I'm loving the foot duster lately.
The foot duster rocks, right? I got some nasty
dogs that are barking.
And this silences them
a little bit. A little bit. Pets a little
muzzle on. Crop revivers, my OG.
This is like my, I'm not
leaving the house without this, basically.
Tell them how you use that.
Like what is your...
If I'm working out, I don't want anybody to smell me.
Of course.
And I come with a funk.
I'm sorry.
This eliminates the funk.
It eliminates the funk.
I also recently got the body wash, which is in my shower.
So I can't, I don't have it right here.
But it smells very nice.
Take a shower.
Live on the...
Should I take a shower?
Yeah.
All right.
Give me a second.
And, yeah, I'm very...
It's like we said in the beginning.
We tried some.
against kid stuff and we were like, yeah, this stuff is good. Let's, let's see what we can do with them.
Every product that I've tried, I've been like, oh, this rocks. Yeah. Code Hardlaw, 20% off,
free shipping. You could get all of it too. You should. You should. Because it helps us.
Helps us a lot. I would, woo. It's also Whatnot time, Bo. Yes. And more so than ever.
Yes. Because we finally have a date booked for the first ever Hardlaw, Whatnot. Friday, March 24th.
The 24th. Do we know what it's going to be?
The only place in the world you can buy this.
It's going to be...
Oh, that's a good point.
We're going to have some OG harm's way stuff, some OG,
God's hate, switching tongues, all of our bands,
many other bands that, you know,
there's going to be lore for every single item that we've got on there.
If you're a medium, if you wear a size medium, brother,
I got you.
Oh, you're going to be rich with stuff.
Simulacra up next.
again
this is
they're living proof
of the best
masters make
make the best singers
you know
and he might
he might be the best mosher
Dom
sick bastard
he has definitely
made sets
that we've played
like
good by himself
we were like yeah
the set was good
but like yeah
that one guy
and that was him
so he's bringing
that energy
a similar
Acre now.
They played F.
F.A.
And the sound
wasn't dialed in
yet.
And it sounded
crazy.
Yeah.
You know?
They played
L.D.
B. Very dialed in.
Like the house sound,
not them.
I'm saying,
like the PA,
the house on.
Very dialed in.
Yeah,
yeah.
It wasn't that they
did anything wrong
at F.A.
It's just the room
sounded fucking crazy.
Crazy at F.
But yeah,
this was,
it's rocked.
Foreign hands,
I think I missed.
They got it too.
But I've,
either
seen or heard them before
Tyler sings in the band
very metal core
okay
I've heard I mean I've heard them
yeah
I feel like I've almost played with them
30 fucking times
yeah but I did watch
some video in prep for this
and it looked like one of the best sets
really
yeah
what were we doing
oh this may have been
mini this was mini this was mini too or
this was the
man on the street, yeah.
Yeah, right.
This is right while we were doing
literally outside.
After some locker, we were doing the man on the street stuff.
Freezing our nuts off out there.
Holy shit.
That was crazy.
But we had canes delivered.
We did two days in a row.
If you were in the man on the street thing,
thank you.
That was fun.
We're going to do those pretty much every time.
That is, that's like the best part.
It really is.
It's funny to see returning people.
we had somebody return I'm not without spoiling it we had somebody return to redeem
themselves and then continue to fuck and made another error it was amazing he's gonna be so bummed
when he sees it so funny because I know you're gonna do something to it to make it just oh I'm gonna
fucking sauce the hell out of it dude it's so good it's so good those are cool because it's you know
it's the pulse of the this they're they're they're the reason that these things are good
you know because they're going to these fest so they get
They get their boys get to see them in it and go,
yo, that's fucking Joe.
Yeah.
From New Jersey.
It's crazy.
We got gifts?
We did get some gifts.
That was nice.
That was totally random.
Don't make that a thing.
So if you see,
if we're doing the man on the street thing,
and I make eye contact with you.
You're in the movie.
You're in the movie.
Don't make us back.
Please.
Don't make me beg,
but I will.
But also,
come on.
Also,
we need more fucking women in these things.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
It's always.
And we ask women,
they run away.
from us.
We're not there to dunk on people.
No.
This isn't a hatchet job.
Yeah, exactly.
There's no gotchas coming.
No.
We want to know what you're excited about.
That's it.
Yeah.
Sorry to the kid that I told to use champs.
Dying Wish was next.
Friend of the show.
Email.
Friend of the show.
One of the great friends of the show, Emma.
I saw her for like 30 seconds said hello.
Yeah.
She texted me yesterday in saying like,
sorry, it was so brief.
How was your week?
just sweetheart.
That's really nice.
Angel.
Dude, you want to talk about pro.
They're so pro.
They're the most dialed in.
Super dialed in, wireless packs all over the place.
Ground and refined to like the purest live performing band.
Yeah.
Amazing.
It's crazy that aside from, like thus far,
coo and no pressure aside.
It's all hard bands, this entire vest.
Just heavy.
Yeah.
How do you feel about that?
Why me?
I'm just, before I give my piece, you know?
I love, how to navigate this question.
I'll navigate it first for you.
I, no, I love heavy music that is fun.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
The vibe that I got for the whole weekend was people enjoying heavy music because they love heavy music.
Not only because they want to hurt people.
Right.
But because, you know, I'm down with that too.
Right.
As everyone in that room is.
Yeah.
But also they want to hurt people and have the best weekend with their best friends.
Sure.
I would personally rather hear the worst breakdown on earth for 10 hours.
than a mulata carcour song.
I don't think that's true.
I would rather hear the breakdown app
played by Mike Sassaria
to having fun.
For 10 straight hours
than a melodic hardcore song.
Gates to hell was up next.
Death metal influenced hardcore opening the machine head.
which is like that's, is there a more telltale sign of like
a death metal band with hardcore guys in it
than opening with machine head?
What song did they play?
They did the noise and everything.
That's cool.
That's the breakdown for you.
Scrambled, by the way.
Wow.
You owe them a sandwich, as Josta would say.
Yes, we do.
We should mention that for a second.
That episode is just shattering records, dude.
That's going to be our...
Probably the benchmark.
We're going to be chasing that one for a minute.
Yeah.
For sure.
So...
We got a couple of guests coming up, though, that are pretty sick.
Pretty sick.
But thank you to you guys for watching it and sharing it.
Yeah.
I think a lot of people were sharing this one.
That was one of the analytics that shocked me on the, like, Spotify wrapped podcast one.
Was that our, like, weekly thing is in the top 5% of, like, shares.
Share it.
Yeah.
That means you're like not only listening to it, you're going listen to this.
Yeah, which is huge.
It's nice.
So thanks to hell.
I played with them twice.
That's right.
I saw them twice this weekend.
And Ryan is in that band who is half of the legend.
You know, LDB is a brainchild of his.
Absolutely.
Big shot out.
Great job, Ryan.
Great job.
Gates to Hell both times.
Two great sets.
There are they kind of.
of the next
the next
thing to pop
in Louisville?
Seems like it.
The chosen ones?
Seems like it.
If you will.
Because weapon X
can't be
no.
A touring thing.
Yeah.
Not clues about that
real busy year
and inclination
is also somehow
being very busy.
So.
It's crazy.
But I like that
about Weapon X.
I like the weapon X
is just kind of
yeah.
You know,
agree.
One step closer
up next.
I take back
what I said about the melodic carcourt thing.
You guys are really. I like
them all, all. These are sweet
boys. I love, I like them all.
Friends of the show across the board.
And they had
a really good set, so.
Certain bands just kind of get passes.
Yeah. And it
should be that way. It happens.
The first, what, I hear all
the goddamn time that the first few
Coheed shows were with bulldoze.
The first few
I'll spin kick to Coheed
right now.
The first few
saves today shows
and a tour
was with Bain.
Like,
no,
the first door
was,
yeah.
So like,
certain bands just
get a pass.
Title Fide gets the
ultimate pass.
Yeah.
Because they were just
all hardcore.
And that's,
it's the ethics.
That's what we talk about.
Mm-hmm.
It comes from here.
All right?
Huming mouth.
The return.
Our fucking boys,
yeah.
Triumphant.
Every time.
Again,
saw them twice this weekend,
too.
both two triumphant ass sets man it's nice to see people supporting mark but also like
ain't even about that because they just rock yeah right yeah totally yeah all they have to do is
play their fucking songs all things aside and uh and it's game over saw a really cool picture
of him just like uh you know from behind love that gets me every time i'll never forget
Um, that's set in Boston.
Just like him ripping the mask off raising, raising his fist and me just like weeping in the back.
Yeah, yeah.
Straight up.
Like, couldn't I?
There was nothing I could do.
And, uh, for any of you guys who signed up for Be the Match.
I just got like all my shit back.
I'm in.
I'm in the system.
Oh, yeah, straight up.
So you should be getting yours around the same time too, I would imagine.
So that's fun.
That's cool.
And that's a cool thing.
I want to kind of chase that.
do more stuff like that, you know.
How are we can help?
If you think,
is there something you think we could do positively?
Because, I mean, I'm telling people gamble on here every week.
Yeah.
I got to undo that somehow.
We got to write the shift.
Yeah, I got to write the wrong.
Yeah.
Fume your mouth.
Emotional.
For me, every time, even if it isn't to everybody there.
Malevolence, the fucking britts, lad.
This was an interesting thing.
I heard, I think you may have said it,
that they flew over like an entire...
A sound board.
A sound system, sound board.
So the fest was running a little fast.
I heard that even Weapon X started early.
Like it was that fast.
So then that time kind of got ate up,
which is very fortunate kind of for everyone.
Yeah.
That they were able to do that.
I specifically went to watch them to see like, why, why do you need this?
You know?
Yeah.
And they sounded fucking crazy.
And I was like, oh, okay.
They're so pro, dude.
I mean, they're, and they're like touring and playing on a, on a different level in the UK, you know?
They're fucking Lamb of God in the UK.
Wow.
And they're, but they're seventh to last on American festivals, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
But, like, people are down and they're over.
Very over.
But, like, they're one of those bands that is, like, still putting in the work in America.
But they're doing it right and, like, flying in shit to sound the same as they do there.
Being pro, they got the in-ears and shit.
Can you imagine the stress of just, like, no.
Everything's got to be there.
No.
I'd rather not play.
It's funny how I've, again, met those guys my first year,
tour.
Don't like,
I'm sure some members
have changed or something.
You can tell from
100 feet away
that they're British.
They walk British,
you know,
from behind.
I'm like,
that's a British ass,
you know.
I know exactly what you mean.
You know,
you do, right?
So British.
Pain of truth up next.
I've heard.
What a set.
A set of the weekend
is what I heard.
I think,
I think it was.
That's what I've heard.
Of the weekend.
The weekend.
I believe at this time I was visiting the Rock Talk.
You were getting fucked up?
I got fucked up.
A lot of people got fucked up during Painter Truth.
Yeah.
And again, like this past year, we've seen them once a month.
Mm-hmm.
I think they've played everything we've been to me.
They have.
Except for disturbing the piece.
I don't think anyone...
Disturbing peace in Santa Fury.
But other than that, everything we've gone to, they've played.
So, like, I've gotten to sing that fucking part eight times.
Dude, so many times.
Describe what was going through your head.
In the teaser for this episode, you included a clip where you grabbed that dude and, like,
my buddy Xavier.
Yeah, yeah.
Describe.
Did you know what was him when you picked him up?
I knew.
So I couldn't tell it was him until I picked him up.
And that's why I just kind of put him down.
You know.
Well, one, 168.
And he was up and I was like, oh, that's my sweet, my sweet lad, Xavier.
I better put him down before he kills me.
That's what I'm thinking.
before he fucks me up.
I told him that next time
we do the part together,
he's got to like gorilla press me offstage.
Oh, just...
I got to put him over.
Yeah, yeah.
He put me over, you know?
Yeah.
He gave me the hero spot.
I got to put this man over.
Yeah.
He's benching.
He's going to start doing his shoulder presses.
Yeah.
So that next time we're doing this thing together,
this man can fucking,
ah, fucking Goku me off the stage.
No problem.
Ultimate warrior.
the moment.
But I couldn't tell it was him until I had him up.
And I was like,
ah,
okay,
let's put him down.
That's a fun one to watch,
like on repeat.
Because if you watch everyone else,
the reactions to,
they're all laughing.
It's just like a funny.
Yeah.
I mean,
this was like the rare thing.
Stage moshing a lot of the time
done by like not friends of the band.
Mm-hmm.
Is like,
okay,
get off.
Yeah,
yeah.
You know,
but this was done with the precedent
of like, okay, if you're going to stand here,
you're in danger too.
Yeah, yeah.
Which I really liked.
Of course.
Yeah, you're a family.
I really liked violence.
I like that everybody could get it.
Like, this is not,
this stage is not an escape from what's happening here.
I liked that a lot.
This was,
this was set of the weekend, straight up.
I heard multiple people say that.
And they play their six fucking songs.
they have. Can you fucking believe that?
No. The LP is gonna be so big.
So jealous. People are creaming for this thing.
I hate when you say that. Oosing for this thing.
Oh my God. Who is next?
Tsunami, which is like
other set of the weekend. Yeah, right. Of course.
Pain of Truth and Tsunami together are like the two halves
and then Kubla Khan too. Like the two thirds
of like the people that
the show drew. Yeah. Yeah.
Pain of Truth is like
the extreme
moshers
tsunami
they knew
every fucking word
to every song
and that
seeing tsunami
at midnight hour
was where I knew
that was like
when I first registered
that hardcore
was changing
that like a thing
had happened
expand on that
that's an interesting
they played the song
with the big sample
where people
are singing the sample
and there was a 400
cat venue
400 phones
in the air
filming the thing
Not one person not filming the park.
Which is like...
Interesting.
One of those videos is going to be a viral thing.
Sure.
There's always one.
It's a different...
It's a whole different thing now.
What hardcore is.
And it only really benefits the bands.
So there's no real room to complain.
And new and upcoming podcasts, frankly.
And then it was Kubla Khan.
Yeah.
This is the third band that Isaac played for.
He's a sick fuck.
He's a sick bastard.
Kubla Khan is like just this wrecking ball.
They're pro.
So pro, so big.
Yeah.
They cross a lot of like genre boundaries.
Like a lot of people who wouldn't be.
at like a hardcore, hardcore show.
Yeah.
No Kubla Khan.
What is Kubicon like, you know?
They don't, there's no box.
Oh, oh.
They're out of the box.
I have no idea.
I wonder what do they listen to?
Country.
There's so many things.
Country music.
Straight up.
So, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't.
If Matt told us.
They're listening to George Strait.
And then they like, yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And I would be like, yep, of course.
That makes perfect.
The DNA is all that.
It's in there.
This is, I think there's only like the second time.
I saw them at Furnace Fest and then at this, which this was much bigger.
A better showing for them.
They played Louisville that week.
Really?
Yes.
And that's why they were announced last minute.
Right.
They were like the surprise.
That week and it was that fucking crazy, which is like, damn, good job, guys.
They are, we talk about this all the time, proof of the grind.
They are scientific, formulations.
proof of the grind.
They got everything that they got
all the status, whatever, you want
whatever metric they got because they were
out there doing it constantly. So,
it makes me very happy to see them.
Crush.
And the nicest guys.
Yeah, very sweet.
Sweet boys.
Drug church up next.
Didn't, dude, didn't even
see Pat. Couldn't see
nothing. Yeah.
I saw many people describe this as a
religious experience.
Wow.
And that's like, I saw their slot on this and I was like, dude.
Following Kubla Khan, no one was worried about it.
Following Pain of Truth tsunami Kubla Khan before knocked loose.
I was genuinely concerned.
Wow.
I would be concerned for any band in that spot.
Literally any band.
And they just shut me the fuck up.
I'd be concerned for a hate breed in that spot.
Yeah.
Really think about it.
Like it.
Really?
I mean, before knocked loose at home, at the show where they had a merch line for six straight hours, you know?
Yeah.
Scary.
Scary.
I'd be scared.
Drug church showed no fear.
They do not have IBS.
They do not.
And it was a religious experience.
Many said, many said separately, you know.
And this was.
They're one of those bands where if somebody coming to this didn't know them
and was coming because of like tsunami or Kubla Khan or something.
Even because of Knock Lose,
it probably saw Drug Church and be like, holy fuck.
They got rock music at this thing too.
Yeah, right, right.
And it's so funny to think like at Furnace Fest,
they played like the far, far away stage.
Yeah.
You know, here are their direct support.
and killing it.
Killing it.
Very interesting.
Pure noise to pure.
This is pure noise back to back, you know?
Yeah.
Knock loose birthday set.
10.
Closed out the show.
Fucking years.
10 years.
We talk about these guys all the time.
And I truly like love this group of people.
Nico included, Taylor included.
I really like.
Nico is my OG disarmony guys.
So you know, I got a gun locked and loaded for his enemies straight up.
It makes me very happy and very proud to see this group of people who I genuinely consider, like, my little brothers from the South doing so much.
Just some chicken-eaten motherfuckers.
Some hot brown.
Who ground from nothing.
To make hot brown notes.
And really, like, a big reason why this fest is what it is.
Oh, I think that's undeniable.
Because of the work that they put in.
There was a tweet.
I think it was Colin Feeney,
who was also directly responsible for basically everything we just talked about,
including my own band,
that restaurants in the area reported like doing great over this weekend,
which again, I don't think would be happening,
if not for knocked loose.
Just like literally taking a county,
putting it on their back,
and they're in Australia right now.
And not only that,
that county is called Old Ham.
Old Ham County.
And you made Old Ham a thing that people want to wear.
Yeah.
You must be incredible.
And they are.
Great job.
So nothing but love and respect for them.
I really, I could put,
from the,
we met them in 2017.
By the end of that tour,
I could have put them over ad nauseum,
like,
You did.
And I have, yeah.
You have before, before many did, I would say.
They're, they're so legit and so real at what they're doing.
So that was really cool.
That was fun.
And I'm glad that, you know, their parents all got to be there and watch.
Oh, my girl.
My girl, Brandi, yeah, my bestie.
So fun and so cool and huge, very important.
Yeah, it was huge.
The matinee after show was the next day.
Yeah.
I couldn't wait for this.
Dude, fuck after shows, right?
I mean, you want to know something.
Alex, Ryan, and Colin Feeney again.
Saw them Friday.
I'm sure they were at the pre-show.
I wasn't there.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But we didn't even talk about that because we couldn't go.
Exactly.
But Friday or Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Saturday, Sunday, Matinee after show.
Just like nonstop.
going on walkie-talkies,
taking care of fucking biz.
I mean, this is their nut.
You know, this year's their,
this weekend is their nut.
Crazy.
And if you mess with my nut.
You mess with their dumb.
And then nobody mess with their nut,
which is great.
Let's talk about this matinee after show real quick.
I'm psyched to have gotten to play.
In general.
Of course.
Once upon a time,
I played a United Blood after show
where our set time was 3 a.m.
So I swore him off
once and for all.
It was like,
I'm never fucking playing after show again.
You'd have to.
This was a matinee.
Yep.
So this was different.
So I love that.
I love that it was over at a reasonable hour.
Yep.
I got there a little late.
Slept in that day.
Must be nice.
Yep, it was.
Got there late.
Who was playing?
Orbit visions opened up
from Lurak,
featuring my boy Ted on bass.
they opened with a riff that like
I had to like sit down
shit that's sick
a sentence to die was up next
had never heard them before
were all of these bands on maggotsdam
no but just kind of
but it was like curated by maggotson
oh cool that's even better honestly
Terminal Nation who are
I guess big friends
of the show
so thank you Terminal
Nets, Lads,
others.
It's Terminal Nation.
This was a,
it was stacked and then,
yeah.
Tribal gaze.
God damn.
Fella,
I can't get enough
trouble gays.
I was here for this.
So what was the man
that was right before travel gays?
Terminal Nation.
Terminal Nation.
So I got there during
Terminal Nation.
Okay.
And they cover,
was that who covered
Cold is life?
Cold is life.
Yeah.
Okay.
Which is again,
like,
I was there.
Yeah.
That's the,
that's like the inverse.
of the machine head cover.
Of Gates to Hell, which they did again at the episode.
So it was like, I remember saying to somebody at while they were playing it at the fest.
I was like, machine head.
And they were like, what?
And then they played it again.
I was standing next to the same person.
I was like, there it is, machine head again.
Trouble gays, man.
Taylor says they're his favorite band.
I mean, he mixed their new LP.
the nine choirs,
big friends of the show,
probably friends of the
bow, I would say.
Oh, maybe.
All right.
My favorite band.
Yeah, most favorite band Travel Gays.
I can't put them over enough.
First time getting to see him.
Oh, same.
Played all my favorite songs.
I assumed you had seen them a bunch.
Wow.
Never. Cool.
I don't know if it's announced yet,
but there's going to be
a 12 inch split
with travel gaze
and a little band
and dead body.
Wow.
Magistump?
Close casket.
I don't know if I think maybe
a magazine was part of it,
but it's for sure a closed casket.
Yeah.
It might be a thing where like their songs
are maggots or something.
Yeah.
Very cool.
Breaking news.
Breaking.
And those are songs.
are written and
pretty good.
Dead Body was next. This was fun.
I'm going to describe Dead Body. Thank you.
Yeah, yeah. I stood
stage left to watch and critique
everything that you did. I'm sorry to say
that you did great.
Taylor's Omni pedal
sounds awesome on bass and guitar.
The Oni. Oh, I'm sorry,
Oni. Excuse me. I thought there was an M in there.
This was obviously my first
time getting to see you guys. It was really cool.
I've been saying since
2013 that you guys should be singing together.
And the whole fucking time, it's,
oh, we sound too similar.
And then here we are.
Yeah, and that's why I got to go, yeah.
So he goes, 10 years later.
Here we are.
What you know, it takes time?
I love the you saying,
we're dead fucking body and Taylor doing them.
Thanks.
That was awesome.
The duality of man.
The duality of young is very good.
It's us.
My outer dialogue is his inner dialogue.
Right.
And his outer dialogue is my inner.
I'm chilling on the inside.
He's screaming on the inside.
They did something for all my guitar players out there, friends of the strings.
I'm scared.
The two guitar players did something during the second to last song where I think you're playing all strings open.
It's during a chug part.
Yeah.
Hold down the trim and just chug.
Right.
So they're standing there playing like this.
And like, I've never seen that before.
And when I got to the airport on Monday, the rest of your band was there.
So I got to chill and hang out.
I was asking Taylor, where did you?
And he was just like, I just wanted to do that.
And I couldn't figure out how.
So he invented something that I've never seen done on guitar before.
Oh.
Nobody's done that?
I've never seen it.
And I asked him and he said he didn't get it from anywhere.
Wow.
So holding the trim down with your fretting hand and then chugging with your right hand.
Just hitting a nasty ass open note.
While I was just doing...
You're doing, yeah, like, power for the seven power cord.
Awesome.
Awesome.
That's...
Loved that.
I gotta get better.
I'll get a little better base.
Dude, you were playing...
I did some stuff.
But when I'm too loud, I get really self-conscious and it makes me play worse.
Yeah, I turned you down.
Thank you for that.
Did I turn you down too much?
No, that was when I was like, all right.
hour cooking. Okay, okay, I got you. I got you. Yeah, yeah. Good. That was awesome. That was really
fun. I was happy to see you guys play. Excited to play today. Tonight.
With vomit forth at midnight out. Gates to hell once again did the thing. They're the next big thing
little straight up right?
I think so.
They're the prodigal sons, the new
prodigal sons. I saw a lot
of Gates to Hell shirts at the Gates to Hell show
which is generally like, right.
Okay, guys, it's happening. Prepare.
Damn, we're at hour 42.
I know. Well, we're almost done with this.
We're almost done. Fuming mouth, again.
The return of the kings.
Return of the Kings.
You bow to no one. It's going to be
emotional for me every time.
Just because we were, we were
part of that first one, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So it,
uh,
it hits,
it hits different.
Uh,
after the show,
we did hauntler three.
We really did.
God damn.
We did a lot of shit.
We did a lot of,
it was,
we were really busy.
I was exhausted.
By,
uh,
Sunday night.
Right now,
I'm yawning because I'm thinking about
fucking do.
You make me on from,
yeah,
1,300 miles away.
Um,
hauntler three,
maybe the funniest one.
Possibly the funniest one,
because nothing happens.
happened.
But the gag reel is going to go
obscenely hard.
So we found, I'm not going to
without getting anything away. We found something
pretty cool in the Louisville area that we
went to explore and it took us to other
places and then a local sent us to an
even another place.
That was really fun.
That was
that was like one of the odds. Yeah, that was cool.
One of those organic moments that happens every time.
I can't wait to see the gag reel.
Yeah.
Because that was the hardest I laughed.
Oh, really?
While we made one.
Oh, my God.
The hardest.
The hardest I laughed was when you walked into the pole.
And so, so, okay, cool, cool.
That's fun.
I think the penis thing was.
We were laughing really hard at that.
I couldn't say it.
I know.
We're a terrible.
Straight up.
I'd be a terrible actor.
We were acting, though.
If I had to be on the office, I'd be,
I've seen you act.
You were pretty good.
Hey, thanks.
Then we went and got donuts that were...
Worst dogs should I've ever had.
What was that place called?
Jack's donuts or something?
I'm not gonna say.
I'm not gonna say.
Jeff, Jim?
I think it was Fred's donuts?
No, it was not Fred.
Maybe Jeff's.
I think it was Jeff.
If there's a Louisville chain called Jeff's donuts,
it's one of the biggest pieces of shit
I've ever eaten in my life.
Jesus.
It was not a local place.
It was a chain.
They had a sign that said,
fresh hot donuts open.
So I'm like,
all right, we win, we found it.
The first thing you said, would you ask the guy?
As soon as they were, what's hot and fresh?
He said, nothing.
They had a case chock full of donuts.
Nothing was fresh.
Nothing was fresh.
They were frosted with like cake frosting.
Yeah.
It was the worst dog should I've ever eaten.
Not great.
Don't go to Jeff's donuts.
Maybe it was a bad day.
If it was a local business, I'd be like, eh, that's fine.
Yeah, for sure.
Like, I saw, there's like 10 of them.
It's like a small chain.
Garbage.
Yeah, not good.
Then we went back.
Did you gamble?
You did gamble that night?
didn't you? Or Taylor did.
Not that night, no. I went to bed.
I had to leave next day. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
So we went to bed.
You guys woke up. We got breakfast.
Back to the Waffle House.
And then...
And then we went home, went our separate ways, and here we are talking again.
Not barely 24 hours.
Can't get this guy out of my ass.
But that's going to be our last travel thing for a minute, right?
It is. Yeah, we're done until...
Till tied down.
So a lot of normal interviews coming up.
But that was great.
Overall, how do you feel?
Very, very friendly, fest experience, I would say.
It was really accommodating and cool and drama-free.
Yeah.
Not a single fight.
So during volcano, I thought I was like, oh, there's a fight because there was like, blah, blah, blah.
It was just a wall of death.
They were doing a wall of death.
They got me.
Love it.
They got me.
Very, very accommodating, very friendly, fest experience.
A lot of new faces.
A lot of terrible stage dives.
So we're going to have to work on that.
You pulling up Twitter and I'll pull up?
I got the gram in front of me.
You got the gram.
You want me to do Twitter?
Yeah, yeah, let's do that.
I got, we're going to go to the Instagram and the Twitter now to close it out,
see what you guys had to say.
See what your thoughts were.
See what questions you got.
First one, did the man, Colin Body Slam during Pain of Truth survive?
Yes, he's great.
Xavier is unkillable, no matter what I did.
And like I said, he's going to get his revenge and it's going to be sick.
This is a good one.
And you have an opinion on this.
This fest was straight up 808s and heartbreaks.
So many base drops.
Are they essential to a good live breakdown?
No, they're not enough.
They're not even a little bit.
They help.
I think they're fun.
And they can add a depth.
it can be a crutch.
It's a lot like drop tuning, you know?
If you need to tune down for your part to be hard,
maybe it ain't that hard.
If you need an 808 for your part to be hard,
maybe it ain't that hard.
I do think they're fun.
They're a tool just like anything else.
They're a tool.
If you have a pinch harmonic in every song,
then it's going to get old, you know, then again.
That's right.
Zach Wilde's out there from squealing all over the place.
Yeah, that's his bread and butter.
Yeah.
true
what kind of
ibanez was bo using during weapon x
what kind of base is calling using during dead body
what kind of ibnaz you using bo i was using
a ibanez
it was an a z
um you googling it
i'm googling it just to get them because they have
crazy models it's probably my one
critique of ibnaz my one like real
criticism is like
why aren't these models just called like
the killer or something
They're all fucking...
It's like, have you ever seen Sony's
headphone model names?
No.
It's like XM4, 2, 3, 5, 1,000.
Come up, brothers.
Rather than just being like one.
Yeah, yeah.
So these are the A-Z-E-S is the model that I was using.
Terrible name.
And, yeah, not a great model name,
but plays so good.
Probably going to be my harm's way main, like, backup moving on,
because I like the less Paul.
And what matters other than that?
Nothing.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
I lied.
It's the AZ-2404-6.
Oh, my God.
That's awful.
I was a Fender precision base with a precise name.
The stage was way too tall, LOL.
Stage diving sucked,
especially when no one wants to catch a full grown 285 pound man.
I mean, that's a big boy.
I don't want to catch him.
But like,
If he was catching, if he was jumping from not the Empire State building.
Yes.
Yeah, I could catch him, you know?
Yeah.
But the empire, that stage was Empire State.
I was watching on the stream and someone claimed they were having to watch from the bathroom
because the on-site hot dogs were not sitting well with their stomach.
And then the next reply is, that was me, bro.
That's pretty awesome, actually.
Oh, the bathroom situation was a fucking disaster.
But we found.
Sorry, guys.
We found a hate.
I don't know.
Should we?
Why?
there was a secret bathroom
there was a secret bathroom it was outside
outside you had to brave a blizzard to get there
anyone could go to it but it smelled like cinnamon
yeah it was there was a millet to for to
to
like for lack of a better way to describe it
there was a millennial gray looking bathroom
and the LDB parking lot
it's giving women's
it was truly giving
sponsored by Hobby Lobby
sauce on top or sauce on the side
which do you prefer?
I am always on the side, with the exception of like a pasta or, you know, pizza or something
where it's like kind of infrastructural.
But like if I can get pretty much any sauce on the side, I love to dip.
I like to manage my own.
I like to dip too.
I'm with you.
I like to do it on and on the side for pretty much everything.
Would you rather be thrown up on from behind by a stranger or get photoshopped out of a kind,
hearted meet and greet photo like Bo.
I'd rather get
photoshopped out of a kindhearted meeting greet photo.
Yeah. I, yes.
Don't throw up on me. I'll fucking kill you.
I'll shoot you in the head.
Official Bev of LDB.
Monster.
Monster. Baby.
The white monster, baby.
The white monster, zero.
Hey, you know what stage we played on a warp tour?
The mutant white lightning
monster stage. Wow.
Do you have any solutions to the combat
the stage potato pandemic?
I don't think it really exists.
No, I don't think it's a problem.
I think people blow it out of proportion.
And you need to realize that at these fest,
when there's lots of friends and lots of people
from out of town and family or whatever,
20, 30 people on stage is not that crazy.
There's five people in a band.
It's not that crazy.
I probably knew a thousand or like genuinely like 200 people at that fest.
Hundreds of people.
Easily by name.
In my phone.
Yes.
When I'm playing,
I've said it before.
when I'm playing a set and I see 30 people on stage,
I'm like, wow, thank you guys so much for being up here.
This is really nice.
You know, like, I'm like, oh, wow, you like me.
Now, don't get me wrong.
There are people who definitely do that
because they want to be seen as...
There are people who should not be there.
Of course, but that's not my job to police.
Exactly.
The only thing I care about is if the people I want to be up there are up there.
Right?
You go over there?
Somebody breaking out.
I was just checking.
I'm like seeing different colors.
It's crazy.
I'm getting a migraine.
differences between U.S. festivals and Euro festivals you guys been to.
Bathrooms, air conditioning, catering.
The one thing that Europe really does right are large fests.
Oh, yeah.
They get money often from the state government.
So it's a little different.
It's not fair.
It's not, yeah, it's really apples to oranges.
You're talking about tens and tens of thousands of whatever their unit.
Yeah.
So it's, it is not fair.
However, it can be done.
LDB was fantastic.
Sound and fury.
Fucking fantastic.
Don't get.
Really.
I can't imagine what they could do better, you know?
Just more of the stuff.
More of the stuff.
But that's it.
It was,
it was shocking.
So that's the biggest difference.
It's just kind of like hospitality and stuff.
But like, look, it's all, it's money.
What are you going to do?
Yeah.
Can't always be done.
I'd much rather.
a fest put the money into making a really good lineup and making sure people are safe
then.
Which they did, which LDB for sure.
Yeah, absolutely.
And there's free monster.
We fucking care.
Let's hear about Mike grabs.
It's kind of vague.
You're a singer.
Yeah.
How do you feel about somebody trying to grab a mic from you?
When you were doing twitching, was that a compliment?
Was it?
Yeah.
No, it was exciting for me.
Okay.
Next question.
I'm fine with it.
I always turned it into a really intimate moment, you know?
You know, I like to touch people's faces.
Oh, yeah, you do the head thing.
Yeah, I want them.
I'm blessing them in that way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's fine with me.
If you know that, I mean, if you don't know the words, I'm going to, like, make a funny face at you.
I'm going to expose you.
Yeah.
The wrath that you are.
Yeah.
But if you know him, I'm going to love you for the rest of my life.
Was Colin worried about his pants ripping again?
They maybe did a little bit.
I'll be honest with you.
No way.
The other pair.
The green one.
Oh, okay.
The green one.
Little ripple in the crotch.
Huh.
How bad ass was the wheelchair stage dive?
Look.
Very badass.
Very cool.
So scary.
All so scary.
All I could think about was somebody's fingers getting like,
oh, in the spools.
In the spokes of the wheels.
Spokes.
Oh, my.
In the spoole.
Yeah, that was fucking awful.
But I mean,
Obviously, a thousand things happen at every fest where people are like, yo, this could be the viral moment.
I'm going to be part of the viral moment.
This, nothing's did a chance against this, you know?
No, of course not.
They staged dove in a wheelchair.
I mean, the first I've seen.
Yeah, easy.
So that was, I was historic.
I was so scared for them.
The stage is a billion feet tall.
How many pole pork sandwiches did you guys eat?
I didn't eat one pulled pork.
Not one.
I'm not a big pole pork guy.
I love pole pork.
Is travel gay is the best band on planet Earth?
Maybe.
Maybe.
What is your favorite cell phone service provider?
Fuck them all, man.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I switched to AT&T of like within the last six months.
I've had zero problems.
I don't know what it's going to be like when we go overseas, but...
I've had AT&T for 20 years.
Oh, really?
No shit.
Yeah.
And I sure it was the whole weekend was good, though.
I was fine.
Yeah, no, it was fine.
In Europe one time, I had Verizon.
And it was significantly better.
Oh.
So something was happening there.
Yeah.
I think Verizon's like the one.
Their network.
They got the best network.
Team Mobile's on there now.
You know?
Who knows?
That's who I laughed there, too.
Um.
Oh, this is a good one.
Yeah, I know your answer.
How would you compare the stresses of getting ready to play at a fest versus have,
having, quote unquote, I'm adding the quotes, having to do podcast stuff.
Yo, this, this is 10 times more stressful for me.
Really?
Yeah.
Huh.
This is, this is improv.
This is improvisational.
Yeah, but like we're, we're good.
I mean, I hope so.
You know, something that we're not always going to be.
Like the songs are scripted.
They're done.
Oh, interesting.
You just got to play them good.
This can go horribly awry, as we've seen a couple times.
And there's less control over this.
We got to be on.
And, like, can't just be us.
We got to be on.
a way that justifies the show existing, you know?
And being on for 25 minutes.
It's fucking hard.
No, I'm saying for 25 minutes out of fast is like, okay, we just, we're at an hour
57.
Yeah.
You know.
But this is a different kind of on.
This is you and me.
But you're saying at the fest.
At the fest, it's different, you know?
I'm very stressed the whole time.
Interesting.
Okay.
I did not.
But I'm a secret.
I'm like a silent warrior.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You are.
I had no idea.
I for sure thought you would have been like, dude, playing drums,
like sound in fury, you were stressing.
Because I just wanted it.
I wanted to rock.
And you wanted it to be over and not worry about it.
That, I just wanted to play.
We also did.
And it's also different between singing drums and bass.
That body, I'm like, get me fucking up there, dude.
Because bass is so fun to play.
Drums, I, there's so many factors.
you know you're also you're in an unique position as a drummer for god's thing because you're not just a drummer
no i got to sing a lot and and and you have the brain that's going are all these parts going as they're
supposed to because you fucking manufactured them how many macdonald's value meals did you burn by windmilling
and spin kicking less than one less than one um will you be at house of disd
order in Atlanta. I hope so. It's possible.
Favorite horror video game?
Do you play any horror games?
Resident Evil 7.
I would say Outlast 2.
You love Outlast 2.
Love Outlast 2.
Resident Evil 7 in 2020, it was the first time I played it.
Because Universal Studios, Halloween Horror Nights got canceled.
So I was chasing some kind of scare.
I wanted to feel that fear.
And it got me back into being scared.
you know
someone asked if we could briefly
recap the AFI show as well do we not
yeah I guess we didn't because we had I mean it was
it was incredible it was awesome
choir boy played four songs
which was a bummer they played four songs
four songs they had a very short song
a lot longer than that
Chelsea Wolf was like the best sounding thing I've ever
ever heard
job breaker I could you couldn't fucking
you'd have to Zell me have to Zell me
AFI the best set of all time
tour the house down yeah
It was unbelievable.
Yeah.
And the vibe of just being like, here's the record.
That's all you're getting.
Peace.
Later.
That was one of the best, one of the best weekends I've ever had.
Yeah, we had a good time.
I had a really good time.
So thank you publicly, let me say.
Thank you to you and Lana for putting that.
You're welcome.
Anytime.
Well.
Anytime.
Shout out to Monster for the free drinks all weekend.
Can't be said enough.
Yeah, no.
Agreed.
Does stage monster,
Trump, the three second on stage rule, where's the line?
This is a great question.
It's a case by case basis.
It is.
If you are a friend of the band involved in some way with the scene, you know?
Like locally?
Like locally if you're like, like, for example, if there was some show and Brody was there and he's doing some gimmick on stage, but he's not playing the show.
I think that's like fine.
Like a guy.
People would be like, yo, that was sick.
Okay.
That's a moment.
Yeah, exactly.
If you're some jobber.
Yeah.
Getting up there getting your shit in.
Yeah.
You don't get the fuck off.
Come on.
You got to earn that.
And that's where stage diving comes from.
Does.
Originally back in the day, you're trying to get off before the bouncer
grabbed you and threw your ass off.
Yeah.
So I kind of think like we kind of need a little bit of the like whatever.
Describe this noise I'm about to make.
Like whatever that is.
He's going to.
get me. Yeah, we need taking. It should be just like taking out the trash at night. Yes. Or
turning off the basement lights. So scary. That's what stage I should be running back to bed.
And you can get a couple of windmills in if you want, but he's going to get your ankle.
They're going to get you. Yeah. Um, what was the worst best stage I of? The worst stage I was done by
Tyler Short. Really? Because his full body landed on a monitor.
It was disgusting.
Did he go to run off it and slip?
No.
He dove as if there was a crowd there.
But he under jumped a little bit and full body monitor.
And I just,
it was during your set.
I was disgusted.
And he was MVP of the weekend.
Mosh was,
you know?
You can't stop this motherfucker from Moshin.
But then he went and discussed.
His own body can't stop him from Moshing.
It's,
he's sick in the head, man.
He can't stop.
It was,
It was disgusting.
I never seen impact like that.
It was faces of death, dude.
It was awful.
And then he got up and he was like, oh.
And then dove again.
And then got up to the side and was just like,
oh, I gotta get up.
Tyler, if you're listening, I hated that.
For like for you.
You know, I'm worried.
Speaking of, shout out to the medical team.
They were busy all weekend.
great job medical team
great job
who threw
only outperformed by the monster tent
really yeah really
who threw a fucking mic stand at me
during coyo
I know who it was
but I'm not so
best backdrop videos
you know who
I can see a couple cool ones
no pressure had a good one
the terror one was mesmerizing
loved it
I couldn't stop looking at it
I would love if this became like
the stand
Oh, dude.
Like, I love a banner.
Don't get me wrong.
But dude, like AFI.
Yeah.
They had a movie behind them.
Dude, that was fucking awesome.
Also, here's one thing I would like to point out about AFI.
It's very common for modern big bands.
And we're talking about a platinum selling big band.
Yeah.
To be playing to tracks, to be playing to not really fully be performing, whatever.
AFI stopped twice during their set
on a fucking dime.
Oh yeah.
On a dime.
And that's really how you know.
And that's how you know
that they're performing,
they're playing.
Every aspect.
There's no,
and then picked up at like a random spot.
Yeah,
they looked at each other and they were like,
chorus.
Right there.
And they just picked up right.
So like,
I was very relieved to see that.
I was very impressed to see that.
Because at first there were some parts
where we were like,
damn,
screaming. Is you doing that? I think that might
be piped in or that might be like a trick, like
some, the Saudis doing it. Nope.
Not at all. Nope. So that's cool
to see something I did want
to say about if I. Two questions back to back. How was
the casino? It was
incredible.
I chased and I
caught. Question
for both. Thoughts on you being part of Weapon X.
Would you consider being in more edge bands or even
fronting one?
Um,
what are you laughing at?
I would give anything
To be in the bow front of straight-edged man
Why?
Because I want to
Why?
Why?
I need it.
Why did you laugh before you?
So write me a lyric.
Write me a straight-age lyric.
I'm gonna fucking kill you.
I want to be in the band.
You laughed.
It sounds awesome.
It was a laugh of joy and celebration.
You just got your answer, listener.
You would never do it?
Colin can go fuck himself.
I want to be in the band, Bo.
Please let me in.
Someone else said,
what would you call your straight-edge band that you're singing?
Did anyone else get sick eating one of the hot dogs from inside?
At least one other person did.
But Bo,
don't skip the straight-age man.
Are you going to say?
I love it.
I've been straight-edge for fucking ever.
Yeah.
And I think it's dope.
And I enjoy doing it.
I've never sang in a band.
I sang in Wolf Note,
but it was like pretty.
You know,
it was like nice singing.
I've never screamed in a band outside of like some harm's way stuff.
Which those parts are amazing.
They're fun.
Yeah, I like doing it.
I certainly would, but, you know, next question.
Yeah, if you write it, I'll sing it.
I can't, I got no more room.
My mind is full.
Must visit food spots and lull.
I loved Wafflehairs.
Oh, see, I didn't go to hammerheads.
I loved it.
I went to the cheesecake factory at St. Matthews.
I had an excellent meal.
I got the PBLT from Hammerheads.
What did you have?
The PBLT.
What is that?
It was a pork belly lettuce and tomato.
And you said the pork belly was outstanding.
It was crumbling within me.
You know, just like, I'm sorry.
I love a BLT.
I love a club, a turkey club from,
just any shitty diner
with a whole mess of fries.
Yeah, this
looked like shitty diner vibes,
but then like every item was amazing.
So Hammerheads was my favorite,
and then the one hotel,
what was it called?
19?
17 or something?
No.
No, that's where...
Wasn't it called the Brown?
No.
The Brown Hotel?
You'll see in the Brian movie.
What Fest's
have the hardest, craziest crowd you dudes have ever seen.
Used to be United Blood.
Yeah.
I told the Bad Seed story, right?
I got rocked by Jared Carmen during Bad Seed at Rainfest one time.
Shout out Jared Carmen.
I love you, Jared.
Straight up, dude.
A gangster.
You found a respect for Jared Carmen.
True gangster.
Yeah.
We really quickly.
United Blood one year, someone hit like a,
sprinkler and it flooded out the venue.
So they had to like kind of, yeah, they had to like stop the show, turn the water off, get all the
water out.
And then at the back of the, imagine just like a long rectangle venue with like a balcony above
everything.
But at the back, there was a garage door that went to an alley.
So they had opened those doors to let all the water out.
And then kind of left it open because it was like muggy.
During Badseed, I was walking in that alley to get back into the show to watch Badseed.
and people were literally like Lemmings getting mashed out of this garage door into the alley.
Like, what?
Like falling out a couple of feet above the street.
That was one of the craziest things.
And like Bad Seed was known, especially at that time for being just like super rowdy because like all the older dudes in the area like loved them.
Which is so fun.
Like thinking about like who they are as guys.
Yeah.
That just every old ass beater just decided at once like, we're going to.
put off. Bad Seeds the one. Yeah. And that was one of the craziest things I've ever actually seen.
Yeah, that's a great answer. Thank you. I've been rocked harder during Bad Seed than maybe any other band.
That's funny. And I'm not even saying that because of your answer. When somebody asks me that question, that's what comes to mind. That's really fun. Oh, you're 100% right.
Does Collum's hair get ripped out using that bass strap? You asked me the same thing. I sure did. Hey, every time.
Every fucking time. Taking it off. You can't take it off. You can't take it off.
off without a little bit of strand getting caught in a spike.
And it immediately tangles in a way that's like untanglable.
So yes,
every time I get a good chunk out.
It's a damn shame.
Oh, this is a fun question.
Would you guys consider doing a live podcast?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe we'll do a few of them.
Maybe we'll do eight in a row.
Maybe they'll be in different cities.
I don't know.
Maybe it'll be on the East Coast.
Maybe it's in September.
I don't know.
Oh, this is a great question.
A question for Colin,
so you getting a casino handpay.
Thoughts on tipping the person giving you the handpay?
Oh,
you're going to put in the video.
This video.
Colin,
dude,
Colin tipped the guy,
which I didn't even,
I've never gotten a hand pay.
I didn't even know maybe that was etiquette.
Okay.
So now I know.
That's great.
They break your bills in that last hundred.
I got you.
For a reason.
I got you.
So Colin tipped the guy but dropped both bills and they fell.
And in the video you hear you go, oh shit.
And then Andy and I like lost our minds.
I stifled a laugh so hard that my ear popped.
Perfect.
Like I like so hard that my ear went.
So that was great.
You got a tip.
Where are the mosh clips from Bo?
Mosh.
I'm not like I can show.
you, well, there was the Joe hardcore one where I was wrong about where I did my super
movie.
Dude, and that fucking clip, I watched that for a full day.
You sent me voice memos of just you laughing about it.
Do you have them?
I do.
I mean, yeah, I have them.
You kept them?
Yeah.
Send him over.
All right, I will.
I'll put them in.
All right.
The reason I look so silly at that point is because that was like pre, like, that was still
youth crew.
era. You know what I mean? I didn't know, but I wanted to know. Yeah. You know. It's so awesome. It's one of the best
Mosh entrances I think I've ever seen. If not the number one all time. It's so good. I could not
physically replicate that for any amount of money. I cover a lot of ground. I'm moving. Dude,
you, how did you get there? I have no idea. I mean, I have to, I have to put it in already.
Shit.
Question for Colin.
Are we ever going to see switching tongues play again?
Don't know.
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
Q for both as Edgeman.
This is a long one.
God damn.
What are your thoughts on the implications of the edge ideology
versus those who may struggle with addictions and substance use issues?
I think you're overthinking.
I think so too.
I had somebody, when we were doing merch,
I had somebody come up to me.
And he was a young guy.
He was in college.
Just started.
So young.
And he said, like, I don't have any straight-edge friends where I'm at.
I'm just recently straight-edge.
I'm sitting on weekends.
I'm, like, sitting at home, like, not going out because I don't want to be around that stuff.
Like, what do you do?
And I think that's probably the worst thing you could do.
Yeah, but also it's, I mean, if you're sitting around not wanting to be around that stuff because you're tempted by it, that's different.
That wasn't the vibe.
It was more like...
He just doesn't, that's not...
I'm straight-edged therefore.
No.
It's like, no, just go out and just realize how funny everyone's being.
Straight edge should only be a deeply personal thing.
It's about you.
It's just for you.
So if it's like, if you think...
And yeah, the lyrics are like funny and silly and crazy.
Yes.
But they're lyrics.
Yes.
It's like nobody see...
I don't know.
Unless you're a kid.
Yeah.
When I was...
I see a silly.
big smoker and I'm like, that's gross.
Yeah.
Because you stink like shit.
But when I was 16.
But also you look dope.
Yeah.
When I was 16, it was like a fucking kill.
Yeah.
And then you grow up and you're like, okay, well, that, your life is worse than mine.
And I think everybody goes through those cycles of.
It's all, it's, it's only about you.
Nothing else.
And also, I think, um, the older I've gotten, like, if I have a straightest,
friend, let's say you, and you're going through some shit, you're depressed, whatever.
I would much rather you try microdosing this or that as opposed to getting on SSRIs
and potentially causing yourself all kinds of other problems.
Just fucking shoot me.
I'm just saying, if something works for, it's about the function to me.
Sure.
I personally, like, I don't believe in like blanket statements.
Oh, yeah.
That's the thing.
It's not,
you can't.
It's no,
there is no,
everybody's different.
It's about you.
This is a great question.
Okay.
One or two things you can't forget to pack
when you travel to these fests.
And why is it the crop,
preserver and river,
reviver from Manscaped?
Wow.
I have a new love for Manscaped.
The body wash.
The foot duster.
Oh,
see,
I can't use it all the time.
Yeah.
Because you,
On the count of the open wound.
You're a mutant.
But other than that, the revival for me is the one.
The preserver is hard to travel with because my bottle's so big.
Oh, true.
I couldn't bring that body wash home, by the way.
They made you throw it out?
No, I couldn't close the lid.
I didn't know how to do it.
Oh, why didn't you ask me?
I don't know.
I couldn't do it.
So you threw it away?
Well, or I left it for the next.
resident.
Jesus Christ.
I'll get another one.
The foot duster's awesome.
If you got stank foot, it smells really nice.
And I noticed, I would put it on before our day.
And then when I got back to the room, wearing boots, Doc Martins all day, you're going to be stanking.
And they were not that bad.
I was very impressed.
I got to get some fucking something comfortable to be wearing these fucking things.
Dude.
My dogs are howling.
Dude.
I mean, you're wearing.
red wings for like 12 hours a day.
I know.
That's insane.
I know.
They look awesome.
I have two pair.
I can't wear them that long.
Need you some docs.
You're right.
Big fan.
Anything to wrap us up?
Let's see how we wrap it up.
Oh, the triple B ads on the backdrops.
We're legendary.
And the days ones too.
The days ones, the Magistown ones,
and the.
Disorder ones.
But I think
the triple beats
at the crown 100%.
Yeah, he really is a genius.
He's a marketing god, man.
God, shut up.
A lot of them just made me think,
shut the fuck up.
Yeah, I had a great time.
Can't wait for next year.
Hope to play.
I really like going.
I really like going to these vests.
It's cool to see
how other places are like changing and growing
and how they behave and what's accepted.
It's straight up crazy that we were out of a two-day fest
of all hard music and I didn't hear about one fight.
I like never before in history, right?
It was beef free.
It's crazy.
This is a vegetarian-ass fest.
World of pleasure hates vegetarian.
Go vegan.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah, speaking of, I'm definitely going to go get McDonald's right now.
Are you?
That's dinner.
I decided when we do an episode, that's dinner.
McDonald's?
I'm not going to cook at 7.30.
I haven't gone to the store or anything, so it's like, it's right at the street.
It's 24 hours.
You know what I do as soon as we wrap every single episode?
What's that?
I piss for the rest of my life.
I pee for the rest of the day.
You pee pee until the next episode.
100%.
I'm peeing right now.
Prove it.
Well, all right.
Is that it?
That's it for that.
Yeah, what are you doing tonight?
A lot of Mickey's.
I got a band phone call in an hour.
What does that entail?
Oh, we just got to, we got, we got plans.
We've got to talk about for the rest of the year.
We got stuff.
Nice.
Nice.
I'm just going to be editing this if you want to.
Oh, cool.
Give me a call or send me a meme or two, you know?
I can do that.
This is fun.
We never do this, right?
On the end of the show?
When we don't know how to wrap.
Because you're always in a mood.
Excuse me?
It's always, I got to edit this fucking thing.
Well, I got it.
It's a one day turnaround now.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
It's Tuesday.
Yeah.
So worship me, you motherfucker.
Thank you so much for listening.
This is yet another episode of Hardlore.
After four weeks of record-breaking growth week to week.
We'll see where this one lies.
I could imagine this being the end of the growth.
growth.
But if you went to LDB, you know, let us know your thoughts on it in the comments below.
And if you're thinking about whether or not to go next year, if you've not been before, you should go.
This was a really good one.
It was good.
It felt crazy.
And once again, come to our whatnot tomorrow.
Oh, that's huge.
Yeah.
We should plug that.
I mean, we're going to do it.
We'll do an ad.
The ad, they'll all have already seen the ads.
Okay.
But reminder, tomorrow, 730 Central?
I believe.
Yeah.
7.30 Central.
We're going to have some stuff.
It's going to be sick as fuck.
So it's going to be really sick.
Don't click the link in the description.
It's going to be an extension of this episode.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's going to look exactly like you're going to look like you're in a live episode of hard lore.
But you're going to be at a private auction.
Wow.
Can you believe that?
I can't.
You get whatever you want.
Wow.
I got a, I got to dig.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I got good stuff.
We got to upload it like now.
So it gets your stuff.
All right.
Okay.
Thank you so much for listening.
Thank you so much for watching.
We will see you next week with, I think it's Devin from San Francisco Boggs.
That's going to be a good one.
That's going to be a good one.
All right.
Thank you so much.
Bye.
