HardLore - October Q&A Special

Starting point is 00:00:00 Subscribe to the all-new hardlore Patreon now for early ad-free access to every episode and an exclusive episode every month. Worst public fart. I know this right off the bat. I don't even have to think about this. I was eating Chipotle with headphones in. And you know when you have headphones in, you forget? You forget that other people exist and that, like, you exist outside of your body. And I farted with my whole body.

Starting point is 00:00:36 Like, at the table eating my bowl did like a... You know? Yeah. Like, use my whole weight to get up and just blow it off. Yeah. Place was slam packed. So I packed at my bowl and left immediately. It was so brutal.

Starting point is 00:00:50 They thought you shot yourself for sure. Oh, welcome. It's Hardlorn Luters. I'm so good. How are you being just the pod after dark? Late night. This is very rare. This is your, uh, your 4 p.m. right?

Starting point is 00:01:26 Yeah. 11. We're just getting started. Okay. Yeah. We're doing a late night hard door. This is rare for us, but we really got a cram. Harmsway is on tour as we speak.

Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah, right now. Yeah, that's right. I turned 33 weeks ago, if you're watching this. Yeah, unbelievable. These are our favorites. Yeah. At the end of the day. Let's do these very special Q&A episodes.

Starting point is 00:01:50 Let's do a little catch up. How are you? What's going on in Colin World? You know, I've been 33 for a few weeks now, I think. It's going great. Hopefully I'm still alive by the time you're seeing. this, and I haven't died from old age or heart failure. But, you know, feeling pretty good at time of recording.

Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah. How about yourself? I bit off a little more than I could chew this week. Yeah. Seven shows and seven days, like, without realizing it, and three of them are riot fest days. So we're... Perfect.

Starting point is 00:02:21 We're going, and then Monday off... Combined with prepping for seven weeks of Hardlore in a row. Yeah, yeah. And then Monday off, and then we leave for the Hayprey tour, Tuesday as of the day of recording this. You've been on tour for weeks. How's the tour? That's, oh, they're great. How great is Heybred? How's the sets of the setless?

Starting point is 00:02:39 So good. I've been watching them every night. Carcass too. Oh, my God. Heartwork? You ever heard of it? Can you believe they played that? But this is a Q&A episode. These are our favorites. So we're going to just get, we're going to dive right in, guys, because this is, this is what it's all about right here. We asked our Discord to send some questions.

Starting point is 00:02:59 If you're not a member there, you should be. Listen, I was the first Discord hater on planet Earth. I was the first one. I didn't get it. I didn't understand it. Now it's my favorite place to be. First question. Top four songs by John Boyga, John Boyga.

Starting point is 00:03:14 Top four songs to use in your own chase scene in a movie. If it wasn't ruined by Thor, Immigrant Song by Led Zeppelin, is a great chase scene. Abba, lay all your love on me. His first one for me. That's a good one. Yeah. Bangin, driving track, good for shooting, romance, et cetera.

Starting point is 00:03:39 Let's really think about how good Aces Spades would be. Like, if Ais Spades wasn't like so played out and in everything, kind of the ultimate chase song. Yeah. Dude, get it again. Dang it that's for running. Straight up, jumping over fences. The opposition is coming.

Starting point is 00:03:58 But I'm the Ace of Spades. Snake guys watching Um Dying fetus Let's see where I can go with this From womb to waste But with the sample This is me

Starting point is 00:04:17 Yes 100% This is me in a Batmobile situation You know I'm well equipped in arms Not exactly lethal But I'm formidable Firmitable As a matter of fact

Starting point is 00:04:30 Non-lethal if you're in the Non-lethal actively non-lethal, but you wouldn't know that. Only I would know that. Dude, there's the three seconds in old school where Master or where, yeah, Master of Puppets plays. Yeah. Pretty cool. It's just like, dan, dun, dun, when the van, when the van, and then that's kind of it. Very true. That works. That's been done, but that's good shit.

Starting point is 00:04:54 And then, uh, Demi Borgia, Puritania. Harder song ever written. I won't go into any more detail than that. vital remains de-Christianize just the title track just great idea and then during the the

Starting point is 00:05:12 le la la la la la de jude is like something like oh my god I'm at a cliff apocalyptic scene when he's at the waterfall you know I do morbid angel angel of disease hard ass song

Starting point is 00:05:26 good question good question great question great start What would be your entrance music as a wrestler? Now, I have actively thought about this, and I'm sure you have as well. I have. You have to. When you're writing it, you have to picture.

Starting point is 00:05:45 What would I want? When I'm creating a character in WW2K, whatever, I have to picture. I always end up on more of a weird side, so like a Godflesh type tune, something like that. street cleaner or like rats would hit pretty hard it would feel good in arena because you know what? The arena

Starting point is 00:06:08 You've explained it is where it's crazy man listening to the Brock Lozner theme song at home is like this is a rinky dink piece of shit hearing it in with 18,000 people it's the hardest song ever recorded

Starting point is 00:06:22 but I think if I was wrestling I would need something hard, intense, and scary immediately. Yeah. And something that fits that very well is Cannibal Corpse, evisceration play. Dude. Scary immediately.

Starting point is 00:06:48 Blot. Blot. DJ. Da, dun dun dun dun. Dude. That's insane. So cool. Really good, good pick.

Starting point is 00:06:57 Good pick. I will say to any of the wrestlers who, still ask me to do music. I appreciate it, but I'm retired. Because it isn't, wrestling music is a weird facet of art. It's a really weird little world

Starting point is 00:07:12 where wrestling is such a like music-based thing at the end of the day, you know? So many moments are driven by music. But the industry overall does not really value music as an art or what goes into it. In my opinion, in my personal experience. think about it too in other facets of art as we know art to do with wrestling merch

Starting point is 00:07:38 dog shit you know what i mean like it yeah that's an interesting point you raise yeah it's different it's it's it's it's third thought yeah third thought to them and it's really it's like the beginning and the ending of ever show so many major wrestling moments are because of music because of music so eviseration plague would be a great moment you know Pretty good one. You know what's hilarious about that, though? Is the drums start without a crash? I know.

Starting point is 00:08:09 Didn't. Which I think was a studio error, and they were probably like, that's dope, believe it. Had to me, right? Because he did it live every time. Yeah, it's true. Did the same way. Best price to quality fast food burger.

Starting point is 00:08:22 Well. It's in and out, no question. It's in and out, quite literally no question. We just had Wendy's on the way home from the show. I got a Dave's double. She got a Dave's single. and she got like nuggets or whatever, but it was like over $25.

Starting point is 00:08:37 Come on. It's a fucking crime. Come on, man. Hardest lore, y'all can recall. One of my favorite things, I know I've talked about it before, but I do really think it is the hardest lore is Madball writing a song about cold his life.

Starting point is 00:08:53 Cold is life. That's crazy because I was going to say one of the craziest tidbits on the show is Born to Landhard being recorded live. That's insane. to me. I know we bring it up a lot because it's like, if you don't play music, if you never recorded music,

Starting point is 00:09:10 that's insane. Because you're stuck with whatever you got. You can't take bass out. It's in the guitar. You can't take guitar out. It's in the bass. You could be if you tracked it all in isolated rooms and did it all separately, but they didn't do that. But they did not do that. It's unbelievable.

Starting point is 00:09:26 It is. Top three horror slash thriller movies and or shows. That's a good one. Let's see. That's tough. John Carpenter's the thing. Yeah. Exorcists.

Starting point is 00:09:40 And I don't, uh, show. No shows. Thriller. I mean, Silence of the Lambs is the thriller. That's the number one. There's, there aren't many better. But man, I love a thriller. Psychological, supernatural.

Starting point is 00:09:57 What would you say, aside from Silence of Lambs? In the thriller, in that, in that realm. A memories of murder, probably. That's right. Still not watching it, but I do, I do have it. I have it, like, written down. Very good. Silence of the Lambs is for sure on there.

Starting point is 00:10:17 I love the vich. I've said it many times, but I love, that's fun, payoff, worthy, cool. And then, dude, I love some camp. Give me the scream, the first game. Oh, I love Scream. Scream is one of the greatest horror franchises ever. It's so awesome.

Starting point is 00:10:32 I love super camp, like Sleepaway Camp. Yeah, really. Where it's just like cornball, terrible. Terrible. That's my shit, dude. But then the... Oh, it's horrifying. So scary.

Starting point is 00:10:45 It's so scary. And it's aged great. Like, that's... I mean, it hasn't politically, but... Sure. That shot is still scary. It still gets me. Like, I can see that.

Starting point is 00:10:56 I'll see it on Twitter sometimes and, like, gets me. Gets my hair raised, you know? This is interesting. Jackson versus Ivinez, versus ESP guitar ranking. I know how you, I mean... Well, no, no, no. I mean, I could say non-biased, non-sponsored

Starting point is 00:11:12 and with my experience, I've never owned a Jackson, so that it has to be... I think Jackson rock, so it's no... Yeah, I've never... I don't know if I've ever played a Jackson. I've played ESPs that feel and sound amazing. Yes. So that, to me, that's number one.

Starting point is 00:11:27 So I think ESPs, and that's not an LTD, like ESP, like an Eclipse 2, feels and plays fucking perfectly. the i ibanez you can find ones that are of that quality but they're the japanese made ones they're going to be a little pricey or whatever but i mean so are the eclipses but yeah i'd go esp ibanez jackson in my opinion beautiful all right hey look at that i mean i'm just being as objective as yeah no you're doing great you're doing great passive pickup i'm an active pickup guy for really for heavy music yeah i play fluences and all my thing fishman flueets moderns i had willie adler

Starting point is 00:12:04 Willie Adler from Lambagod had a custom one that I had. I didn't like it as much. Maybe it's out of laziness, but obviously I'm a passive guy. Well, so like if you were still playing guitar and God's hate, I think your opinion would have changed. Maybe, but I used passive pickups that whole time. Yeah, but it could have sounded better, I think, with acting. Not saying that it sounded bad, I'm just saying I think you could have tried it and been like, oh. Maybe. But with Holy Blade, it makes perfect.

Starting point is 00:12:32 I got to be passive. A hundred percent. And I- Passive punk. Like with Wolf Note stuff, I use passive stuff. So it depends on the project, the application. Makes sense. Favorite use of a bust in a song before the fast part. Well, it's got to be Porter.

Starting point is 00:12:49 There's, yeah, it's floor punch to scog. Favorite album with classic H-DM-2 tone. So before I did, we filmed some stuff at CME for the pedal that I'm doing with Wonder Effects. I did, I listened to a lot of entombed. And left-hand path rocks, but honestly,

Starting point is 00:13:13 Wolverine Blue is like, it's... For what it is now so famously used, like, in terms of, like, where it's been applied, it's, it's tough to be. It's tough to be. I think dismember, like, rocks. Yeah. And...

Starting point is 00:13:30 Unleashed, do they use HM2? I think so. And I think so. dehumanize man but Wolverine blues is it's just like crazy so fucking sounds so good list of songs better than the national anthem how much time you got yeah yeah

Starting point is 00:13:47 Google songs you'll find it I actually think dude the Star Spangled Bandit is really weird it's it's Francis Scott Key wrote it during the Battle of Baltimore during the War of 1812 so it's like a non major like a non-major like a non

Starting point is 00:14:03 not super important city in American history, no offense to Baltimore, but it's not Philadelphia or DC or New York or even Boston. So it's a strange choice. The war was kind of insignificant because like England lost, but then France started to fuck with them so they left right away, so we

Starting point is 00:14:19 didn't really lose anything and then we got the Louisian purchase. It was just like, I don't know. You're just psyched about it or what? I think they were just like, well, this is it. Yeah, we did it. Francis wrote this panger, dude. We got to sing it before every baseball game. I mean, it's pretty good. Did you say the pledge in school?

Starting point is 00:14:36 Like did I, did, where was I supposed to or was I a kid that was like? Yeah, exactly. Of course, dude. Of course, what? That's punk. That's punk rock. Not saying the pledge? That's how you let them know that you listen to alternative music.

Starting point is 00:14:49 That's right. Dude, that was a punk. You got to let your classmates know you live an alternative lifestyle by not saying the pledge. That's what's all about. By sitting. Oh, I mean, it would be called get up if I sat. No.

Starting point is 00:15:02 But. But I'll stand there. I'm not saying this. In high school, there was a lot of that once we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. And then there were like walkouts and stuff. And it was so like, so performative. But it was cool. It's cool of high school kids to be doing shit.

Starting point is 00:15:22 Yeah. To care? Yeah. It's crazy. I think a lot of them just wanted to get out of school. But, you know, 100%. But even the implication of caring is nice. Oh.

Starting point is 00:15:33 Would you, scenario for Colin, I mean, this applies to boat too. Would you rather live in a world where Sting, the wrestler, never existed? Or a world where Oasis and the Smith slash Morrissey never existed? I gotta go, I gotta go, Sting never existed. It's out of here, dude. Because wrestling, as much as I love it, music is God. Music is God, and Smiths are like Olympians up there. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:04 That's monolithics right there. They are guys. Exactly. Exactly. Since you like to talk about penis music, what bands would you call penis hardcore? Oh, interesting. Penis hardcore. Is there such a thing?

Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah. Is it mean? It's got to... Maybe. I mean, I would proudly say twitching tongues is basically penis hardcore. Wow. Really? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah, Fleshwater's pretty penis hardcore. Is... define it for it. Yeah, you're right. Tusha. That won't be necessary. Just open your ears. We don't do that here. Let the penis in your ears and you don't need words. I'm trying to think if there's any others.

Starting point is 00:16:54 Fleshwater, that's funny. Penis hardcore. How about drug church? That's like post-penis, I would say. Maybe even Prenas. to breathe this. That's really good. All right.

Starting point is 00:17:15 Wow. Proto. Why do you think, I don't even know this is true. Why do you think so many bands you tour with hold your bands in such high regard? That's really nice. What makes you good touring mates? That's a good question.

Starting point is 00:17:30 What makes a band good touring mates? Just being nice. I don't even know if this is true. I mean, many bands could have hated touring with us. We like touring with each other because we're so similar, you know? I think what makes a band a delight to tour with is like

Starting point is 00:17:48 being like self-aware like your messes your bags in the green room your stuff on stage like being aware and making sure that's not in anyone's way and being on time being polite all that like kind of normal

Starting point is 00:18:04 human stuff just you know presenting yourself and your band for the good of the tour you know because if you make everybody look good, you're going to look even better. And if a band doesn't know that they're not getting paid for a tour and they need a van, help them with a van. Yeah, I think it's important, you know, at the time that this comes out, the Vogel episode will have been out.

Starting point is 00:18:32 And I think it's important to kind of lead by example. And they really, Terror genuinely does that. Yeah. And you can have they have fun. You know, they've, they can still get Buck Wild, but at the end of the day, they're pro. Pro. As pro as they need to be. You know, not overly, but. Favorite heavy bands that have silly or funny theme slash gimmicks that still go hard in the pit. Does this exist? I mean, I don't know about hard in the pit, but like, Immortal has black metal gimmicks. Sons of Northern Darkness is not like a black metal record

Starting point is 00:19:12 It's like a technical kind of Yeah but like funny themes and gimmicks You know Is there anything funnier than that fucker Falling down the Hell? No no no there isn't you're right Here it is again Thoughts on instrumental hardcore songs

Starting point is 00:19:29 Any favorites Um They can be cool I guess But like That's almost Honestly I agree

Starting point is 00:19:42 I agree, but I can't think of a single one where I'm like, this one rocks. Yeah. I'm sure the comments are going to be blazing with them, but they are not on the spot like we are. Because, you know, and what's funny is my head immediately went to like the Metallica instrumental stuff. Yeah, and I went to like Armenian persecution, which is not instrumental. It just, it's just a full solo. There's lyrics two minutes in. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:09 So vocal test is almost an instrumental. Almost. Mount Rushmore ice cream flavors. Well, thankfully, Colin, in one way you and I agreed with right away was our love, honor, and respect for vanilla ice cream. It's perfect. It's the godfather of all good, sweet thing. Everything.

Starting point is 00:20:33 You know? Yes. Everything good starts as vanilla. 100%. And then evolves. I love it. You know? It's like Black Sabbath.

Starting point is 00:20:41 Vanilla is the Black Sabbath of Ice cream. Well said. Wow. It's like George Washington. Right. And here we are. Exactly. So, oh. But now you get, now you go wild. Yeah, now you can go a little nuts.

Starting point is 00:20:56 Last night. Fudge, fucker, sugar cracker Supreme, you know. Taylor and I went to Margie's candies, the place I talked about that Capone had gone to. And I got like a hot fudge banana split. And it's like, that'll do. Classic. It's strawberry, chocolate, vanilla, and all the gimmicks. And I, dude, strawberry ice cream is fucking awesome.

Starting point is 00:21:17 See, I'm out there. But you, that you would put that on your Mount Rushmore? No bits of strawberry. No, no. I'm out. Artificial berry. I'll blow my and your brains up. Yeah, I think I'd do the, the three, the classic three, and then chocolate chip cookie dough.

Starting point is 00:21:32 That's my, that's my Teddy Roosevelt in there. So I'll get real specific. Okay. Please. Number two, number one really is McConnell's sea salt cream and cookies. Very good. Number two is Jenny's gooey butter cake. Oh, so good.

Starting point is 00:21:47 Number three is Handel's either Graham Central Station or the birthday cake one with the actual chunks of birthday cake frosting in it. They don't have that at every location. Okay. And then number four would be vanilla. Just vanilla. Do you have like a store-bought, like Briars or Hagenas? Well, McConnell's is in stores here now. Okay, but a more...

Starting point is 00:22:12 I was a Breyer's kid growing up. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. And then one day I remember distinctly the day the recipe changed. Dude, so much from what we remember from youth has changed when it comes to like recipes and cereals. There was a day, dude. It was overnight where I was like, I knew what I liked. I eat this every day.

Starting point is 00:22:35 And then one day Breyer's was different and it was like, my life's over. Wow. I'm not making it to my seventh birthday because. this is different now. They fucked me. Yeah. Wow. What podcast do you guys listen to?

Starting point is 00:22:49 There's a few. Do you listen to any? I, if I do, I know that if I do, I will steal things. Interesting. And I can't do it.

Starting point is 00:22:59 So I'm a big ASMR guy, as I've noted on here before. Yeah. Big time. I go way back to the beginning before it was called ASMR and it was just called whispering. I'm not a weird freak.

Starting point is 00:23:12 it just it makes me feel relaxed you know but would disagree that's okay I'm not much of a podcast guy but I like to relax with this the you know soothing sound I'll I listen to like history shit I love hardcore history I've talked about that before I love death is just around the corner it's just like pointed things that for anybody asking death is just around the corner is the JFK episode I've talked about before I got a lot of questions about that you have to look on YouTube he took it off his podcasting thing I like stuff like that. But yeah, I know what you mean. Like, I don't want to steal. I don't want to take people's bits. I want to be us. Yeah. Yeah. If you can only attend one hardcore fest each year, as most

Starting point is 00:23:52 people do, which one are you choosing? Parentheses can't be sound and fury because of conflict of interest. Took the words. I would say, this is tough. Yeah. Here's the thing. Yeah. I love F.A. It's very hot in January, which I don't like. You know? It's very hot. It's hotter in January in Florida. than it is in June in Detroit, and I really like Tidedown. I love it. 200 Jets pizzas, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:26 It's tough not to pick tied down. Good stage. I do think what Jimmy and Curtis have done in Detroit is like mind-blowing. Because Tampa's been good since I've been playing there. Yeah. And I do think it should be commended what Bob has done. Of course. as a non-Tampa resident

Starting point is 00:24:48 building this incredible thing. Tied down the room, you know, the air conditioning, the casino, which, you know,

Starting point is 00:24:59 another great casino in FAA too. It's tough. I like LDB too. I was going to say almost everything you just said, you could say about LDB. I can say, those are the big three,

Starting point is 00:25:11 if I'm not allowed to say Santa Fier, obviously. I hope to be at all of them every year. genuinely. But I'll have phone. Yeah. Yeah. But I do have a special kinship with the tied down squad at this point.

Starting point is 00:25:32 I got to go tied down. I think I'll say LDB. Respect. Yeah. But for very similar reasons. Curious to see where it goes. But yeah, very, very impressed with that fest. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:47 For spooky season, favorite phantom track from the 2004 Phantom the Opera movie starring Gerard Butler and Patrick Wilson and what's her face from, what's her name? Claudia Schiffer. No, not Claudia Schiffer. No, no, not Claudia Schiffer. She's in a shameless Christina. Oh, Bo Derek. She's amazing. It's Bo Derek.

Starting point is 00:26:15 No, no, no, no, I know who. I know. Yeah, no, no, no. Not Bo Derek, but looters. Emmy Rossum. God damn it. I'm an idiot. Angel music's pretty good, obviously. But when the Phantom main theme finally kicks in,

Starting point is 00:26:37 like a half hour in, it hits like a fucking nuclear bomb. You know what else did that? The Power Rangers movie. Dude, I was just talking about that, and I'll tell you why I was talking about it when we wrap this. Okay. But that when that fucking thing hits in the end of the movie. Finally, yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:56 I exploded out of my seat involuntarily. Unbelievable. Favorite hardcore adjacent side project. Good question. Good question. Hardcore adjacent side project. This is tough. There's a lot of options here.

Starting point is 00:27:14 There's a lot out there. If I can't say, they said your post about murmur got me thinking, so I can't say murmur. Anything Arthur is in, obviously, Eternal Champion Summerlands crazy. Eternal Champions fucking awesome. Free the Birds is Brendan from TurnSild Side Project. I don't know if anyone else is involved, possibly, but it is fucking awesome.

Starting point is 00:27:36 Just really chill, really pleasant, nice music. Justin from Laid to Rest, C-T-H-C has an acoustic project called Mile High Sunrise. Check it out. Oh, dude. Josiah Daniel. Oh my God Yeah, dude He's got some

Starting point is 00:27:57 I heard him I heard him Yeah Yeah Yeah Crazy So good Yeah

Starting point is 00:28:05 What are your favorite Favorite and least favorite Dudd records From otherwise good bands We have a whole episode About that It's one of our Most popular episodes

Starting point is 00:28:14 You can go back and check it It's called Bad Albums by Great Bands Check it out Anything come to mind Give them a little taste Uh I mean

Starting point is 00:28:22 Favorite would be no warning stuff to survive. Right. Lease favorite? Like a band I love. I mean, fucking Lulu, you know?

Starting point is 00:28:38 Oh my God. I forgot about that. Wow. Yeah, it's brutal. That's pretty rough. Brutal. Worst public fart. I know this right off the bat.

Starting point is 00:28:50 I don't even have to think about this. There was a far. There one time I was eating Chipotle. I tweeted. about it in the moment. I was eating Chipotle with headphones in. And you know when you have headphones in, you forget? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:03 You forget that other people exist and that like you exist outside of your body. Speaking of, and I farted with my whole body. Just a, like at the table eating my bowl did like a, you know, like full, like used my whole weight to get up and just blow it off. Yeah. And like place was slam packed. So I packed at my bowl and left immediately. It was so brutal. They thought you shot yourself for sure.

Starting point is 00:29:32 Oh, 100%, which is fine. I gave them that, you know? You know what's funny? I don't have anything quite that memorable. I'm really not that kind of, I'm very blessed digestively. Fuck you. But I have, I have obviously been ill before. And when you're on stage and you let one go,

Starting point is 00:29:50 no one suspects the guy on stage. No. They'll be looking. It's somebody in the front moshing. Couldn't be me. Who shit? It can't be that guy on stage. And you're going.

Starting point is 00:30:00 Yeah. I shit. Which brownie piece do you prefer when given the option from a freshly baked batch? Corner piece, one edge piece? Corner. You're a corner man. I'm a middle. I like them wet joints.

Starting point is 00:30:14 You like them just loose? Slippery, sloppy. Wow. Well, we're slipping down. Two peas in a pod then. I know. No problem. We could share a whole try.

Starting point is 00:30:24 A whole try. What would be in your Fortnite bundle? Backbling, glider, cool. Cool. Emote. Emote would be a spin kick. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:35 What would mine be? Glider would be... My glider would be bow. That's pretty. And my back bling would be chilly. Oh, that's good. Yeah, I was going to say my glider would be Metallicat for sure. I think my...

Starting point is 00:30:54 Um, my emote would be like just like a full body bang. Like just or you're like, you know, you're like, uh, you're when you got the guitar in the right hand. Yeah. Oh, that move. You're doing the like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Yeah. A little dance.

Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah, okay. I like that. That's a good one. Yeah. I would like to have that email. Uh, best non name brand soda. The answer is cactus cooler. Is that a, I guess it is this?

Starting point is 00:31:22 Is it carbonated? it? Yeah. It's an orange pineapple blast, though. It's carbon? It's unblue. What makes that not name brand? I don't understand.

Starting point is 00:31:31 It's its own thing. And it's only available in California. It's not owned by some larger company? No. It is only, you can only buy it in California. Wow. The Culver's Diet Root Beer. I like that.

Starting point is 00:31:46 It's fantastic. I like that answer. This is a funny question. How much woman broke your heart? I don't know, one. Yeah, one. Yeah. If you got, if there was a hard lore happy meal, what would be in it?

Starting point is 00:32:01 What toy would be in it? Oh, what toy? Yeah. Other food. Like little other foods. I don't know. That's a good question. It's kind of a terrible question, which makes it a good question.

Starting point is 00:32:16 You know what's funny? I don't remember a single happy meal toy from when I was a kid, except for the, like, mini fry, mini burger. Dude, you don't remember the Spider-Man action figures that came in? Happy Meals? I don't think I was. Oh, I still have some. They used to go crazy, dude. They used to just have like action figures I would want to buy in the store.

Starting point is 00:32:34 Yeah, just real toys. I remember the Batman Forever and the Flintstone, like, glass mugs. I remember that shit, but... The Simpsons watches from Burger King? I remember those. Forget about it. Favorite piece of gear you're using right now. The quad cortex.

Starting point is 00:32:53 It's an undefeated piece of machine. I got to play around with that thing. Until it dies. You really do. Dude, they're putting out a nano. nanocortex. What is the, what is the purpose?

Starting point is 00:33:02 It's so, now bear with me. It's everything hardware-wise, but like without a screen, you use your phone. But your phone is the screen. It does everything. Yeah, but you're not,

Starting point is 00:33:16 that's like for home, right? No, no, no, it's for gigging. Yeah, but I'm not using my phone for gig. Well, you would never need to fuck with anything live. Like, ideally you have it set and then you go. And then there are, You can assign, there are knobs and shit, so you can assign what each one does.

Starting point is 00:33:31 So if you need to adjust something, you can. But here's the kicker. It's $400. As opposed to... How much is the quadquoise? Almost $2,000. Oh. So...

Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah, but you know, a quad cortex is $5 billion. Right? Yeah, this has just as many. It does all the same things, just smaller and with a different way of working. I got you. It's pretty interesting.

Starting point is 00:33:55 Pretty interesting. Piece of gear right now. Oh. I put an Evertoon bridge in my Donable. How's it going? And I'm having a blast. Does it feel so good to just... That's incredible.

Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah. And like going to tune, checking the tuning again, and still being in tune is like... They did it. Every time I go, how'd they do it? It's crazy that it's not digital. For those of you who don't know, an Evertoon is a type of guitar bridge that has individual string or I'm sorry spring and tension on each string that is set to the tension that a string of that particular string gauge is in tune for.

Starting point is 00:34:34 Can never go out of tune. So you put it in, you lock it down, it's in tune. And like even if I broke a string, I could untwirl the top, pull it out, rip it out the bottom, put a new one in, pop it in, twirl around 10 times, and I'm in tune. I could be restring and be in tune in 10 seconds if I was doing it officially. Yeah. It's crazy. I'm having so much fun. It's cool technology. It'll be everywhere soon. I just saw some 41 last night. They all had them. There you go. What is your favorite pastry? Is cheesecake a pastry? I mean. You know what I mean? Because like, I'm not, I'm no fucking bigot, you know?

Starting point is 00:35:22 At like a pastry shop, you're going to have mini cheesecake. So it's like, well. Yeah. My favorite pastry. And I tried to get you one. I'll think of a smaller one. But go ahead. I know what yours is, and I think it counts.

Starting point is 00:35:35 Well, a pastry is a pastry French in origin? Yeah. So a crepe would be a pastry. Because, Bo, your favorite pastry is the Crembrilet Crape formulaic. Oh, my God. My favorite pastry is a cronet. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've had donuts before, obviously. I've had it before.

Starting point is 00:35:59 What a technology. It's the perfect thing, dude, the way the glaze gets inside the holes. Right. And all the crevah? Crevaswaxh. It's plural for crevice. I love it. How different is the approach to organizing songs on an album's track list versus organizing songs on a set list?

Starting point is 00:36:20 Oh, that vastly different. Completely different. When you're making a set list, you're wanting to always kind of captivate, whether it's a chill, more chill song or more heavy song, you're still wanting, like, captivation. Whereas on a record, it's the overall experience. It's like, it's a journey. It's a journey, exactly. And it's a personal journey a lot of the time. With stuff I do, it's a personal journey every time.

Starting point is 00:36:51 Live is a communal journey. Well said. Really well said. That's the difference. Even though it sounds fucking stupid. It is real. You ever have one of those days where it feels like every deep seat and imperfection within your soul is being manifested into reality

Starting point is 00:37:08 as people and events in a sick act by the universe to mock the state of your own existence? I am. Yeah. Yeah. Like every, like today's Thursday, a new episode came out today, particularly one where I'm talking,

Starting point is 00:37:23 out of my ass. Worst day of my life. Dude, has anything weird been going on with you lately? Have you been noticing just weird stuff? Like cosmically? Yeah. Weird. Yeah, but also like a lot of oddly positive things. Well, that's good. That's nice. You know?

Starting point is 00:37:44 We're having weird, like Chicago woke up this week. And like there was like, what does that mean? Like street, the streets are hot. Things are weird. the moon is real full. The moon was crazy last night. The moon is fucking crazy. I think it's a harvest moon one of these nights.

Starting point is 00:38:01 But it's just like, I don't know, things are happening. And I've been noticing like online and Taylor's been noticing it. They're like, people are saying like, what the fuck is going on? Like, what is happening? It's weird stuff. Interesting. If you notice weird things happening in the third week of September, you let us know. I would say I'm in the 2% of the year right now where I can look around and be like,

Starting point is 00:38:22 this is pretty good. You know, it's also my birthday. Coming up. This is my month. Okay. This is when I feel good. The moon is out. I'm howling.

Starting point is 00:38:33 Everything's fine. Do I have a favorite kill from a slasher film? Great question. I have a least favorite kill from a slasher film that comes right to mine. I just mentioned scream. When What's Her Fries tries to go through the dog door in the garage

Starting point is 00:38:49 and it chews her up? Like, no. It would never happen. It would never happen. I don't care. What? The garage would be like, nah,

Starting point is 00:38:57 too heavy. It's like one horse. The chain would probably snap off. Yeah, it's ridiculous. But it's a movie. Favorite. Favorite kill from a slasher. Does Saw count?

Starting point is 00:39:12 I mean, that's complicated. Because like Jigsaw is the villain, but he's not the sleigh's never the murder. Oh, true, true. Yeah, okay. Okay, fair. Fair.

Starting point is 00:39:25 Oh, a favorite of mine is Halloween 2. Michael Myers holds that lady's head under boiling water. Just drowned during boiling water. I really like in the first of the new

Starting point is 00:39:41 Halloweens. Yes. Doesn't Michael like stomp on some guy's head and it just explodes? Don't remember. I really like that. Hello everyone. Future Colin is back to tell you about my favorite slasher death.

Starting point is 00:39:58 Slashers, something near and dear to my heart. Horror movies. Near and dear to my heart. favorite genre. My favorite slasher death is in sleepaway camp when the big fat pedophile chef finally gets it and is killed by the soup that is too hot. That was really cool to me. Really special. Going to Japan for the first time in November, what advice would you give me? Eat. Oh, eat so good. Try everything. Eat an entree every 30 minutes. My favorite area in Tokyo is a sysi. So I spend some time there. It's beautiful.

Starting point is 00:40:37 Dude, just like, I haven't been there in almost 10 years. So it's, you know, tell me if I'm talking out of turn. But like, just exploring. There's like no bad place to go. Like everywhere looks interesting. There's just something different to offer. Like you go to Shinjuku, you're getting grimy, you know, underworld nightlife. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:57 You go to Shibuya. You're getting Times Square, baby. Yeah. You go to Harjuku. you're getting like the hip shopping district and then you go anywhere that's not a major city and you're getting beautiful temples and gorgeous rural scenery it's amazing the best place in the world it sadly and it is true what they say that it is uh white wakonda it is a fact it's wakonda oh shit oh i see oh my god i'm not beating the allegations sadly if either of you had to choose

Starting point is 00:41:32 member from each other's bands to fill in on an episode, who would y'all choose? Alec. That's easy. I mean, that is very easy. It's easy. Who would you choose for my dad? James. Yeah, I do. 100%.

Starting point is 00:41:47 We could talk soda for six hours. Do you try the Oreo Coke Zero? I haven't found it yet. I don't like it. You don't like it. See, I've heard the soda's good and the Oreos are bad. If that's the case, then I definitely don't want to try the Oreo. Like I still have some in my fridge

Starting point is 00:42:04 Because I was just like Yeah this is not It sucks, okay All right noted Favorite old school And newer Boston hardcore bands Blood for Blood is the greatest Of all time

Starting point is 00:42:14 And Haywire is Haywire is current favorite Kind of everything we're looking for In a Boston hardcore band You know? Yeah old school is slap shot For me There you go

Starting point is 00:42:27 Funniest story from inside the van on tour there's a lot of kale ones that he'd be bummed if I repeated But my favorite thing ever was him talking on the phone to his partner Thinking that a blanket was all it took over his head that for us to not hear you know Couldn't hear him I got the blanket I can't hear me I'm a guy they'd be like I have to make a call guys Blankets on and then so that what are you talking about No, it's just like, that and like, I love you. And like, every day.

Starting point is 00:43:11 What's the hardest I ever? There was a prank call that Leo did one time to Mike's mom's friend. Oh, God. And she just was so gullible and went along with it. He kept saying he was a detective. And then he would go into detail. And then she asked what kind of detective. and he said he was a booty detective.

Starting point is 00:43:37 And she was like, oh, all right. And I don't know, something about the timing of it, booty detective, like had us weeping tears laughing. Have I told the too late story with James and Chris in the van? Is that like something about pizza or something? It was Taco Bell. We're in the Taco Bell drive-thru. James driving, at least favorite thing in the world,

Starting point is 00:44:00 is ordering for everybody. which it does suck but you know if you're there you just got to do it and at the time vegetarians blah blah there's all these things

Starting point is 00:44:09 to order and Chris keep saying fire sauce but don't forget James fire sauce he's like alright

Starting point is 00:44:15 and we get there and he pays and he gets it and he's in such like he doesn't want to inconvenience anyone ever and she's like all right thanks

Starting point is 00:44:22 and James goes or Chris goes James fire sauce and he goes as he's rolling up the window he goes too late and just pulls off

Starting point is 00:44:30 and that was it Dude, there was a bit where, so Mike was the only vegetarian in the band for a while. And at Taco Bell, we would make fun of his very specific order. Oh, yeah. And the way that we did that was we would, as a bit, we would say grilled on one side with three pieces of lettuce. And like, obviously he wouldn't ask for that. But one day, Taylor's forced to order and he's so pissed that he has to do it that he gets Mike's food grilled on one side with three pieces of lettuce. Mike was so...

Starting point is 00:45:04 I feel like that's why Mike initially quit the band, but he thinks it's hilarious now. Good. Because it is. Yeah. Mount Rushmore drummers. It's a good one. You think about yours. Let me just do mine,

Starting point is 00:45:18 because they're going to be a layman's answers. Sure. Dave Lombardo. That's George Washington. John Bonham. Different guy. That's... Franklin.

Starting point is 00:45:30 Different kind of drummer. Stuart Copeland and I'll do dude I thought I was going to be able to rip four no problem Sal I'll say Sal

Starting point is 00:45:47 Top of that Yeah Lombardo is king King Undeniable Mike Borden Faith no more Mickey D

Starting point is 00:45:58 D Dimu, Cradle of Filth. Oh, okay. Fucking God. I wish him a speedy recovery. I know he's having some health issues right now. I hope he's all right. The current drummer of Rancid reminds me of Bikid.

Starting point is 00:46:17 The way he like head bangs and drums. Brandon's amazing. He reminds me. He's really fucking good. Hello, everyone. Future Colin here to give my real answer to this question. I thought about it long and hard. Kept me up at night.

Starting point is 00:46:28 I couldn't sleep. I couldn't eat that much. I still ate a lot. But the drummers that shaped me, my Mount Rushmore of drummers, would be Danny Schuller, Biohazard, Igor Cavalera, Sepulchura, Mickey D, King Diamond, Motorhead, and Nick Barker, Dimboor gear. Enjoy. Would you ever want to get Cohit on the show and talk about their post-Harkcore years? I would like to get Coheed in the show and talk about all the years, baby. To be the episode of me bound and gagged in the back of your room

Starting point is 00:47:03 Just right Just kicking your ass between questions Shut up So Claudio tell me about the yeah Are there any bands that in theory you should love But just can't get into their music Like if someone describes them to you You see their artwork, visuals, band pictures

Starting point is 00:47:18 You hear what their influences and lyrical themes are You think this is going to be the greatest shit ever When you listen to their music it kind of sucks So many There's a lot particularly with metal for me like it's like my brain has a bandwidth of death metal

Starting point is 00:47:33 like I can only like process so much until it's all yeah I don't agree that I can't agree with that I got it but I want to like Grateful Dead oh sure I think it's some of the greatest music imagery and iconography of all time and like when you get down to it

Starting point is 00:47:52 death I know for a fact death tones like everything I like Yeah. You know? Yeah. And I will say, I think Chino as an artist, I deeply respect him. Deeply respect. I would love to love it.

Starting point is 00:48:05 You know what I, I feel okay talking about this. I don't think it's inappropriate or anything. You know what I didn't realize about the upcoming, well, next year, Deftones and Fleshwater Tour? Those are fucking- The Mars Volta's on? And they're in arenas. Arenas.

Starting point is 00:48:21 Arenas. I saw Deftones at House of Blues in Chicago like over 10 years ago. They, they, TikTok. That's what, it's exactly what I've heard. It's like they've had a recent influx largely due to that. Good for them, man. Fuck yeah. No disrespect at all.

Starting point is 00:48:36 I just, when I heard about the tour, I was like, oh, that, that'll be cool. And then I looked at the dates of the day when Taylor mentioned it. And I was like, whoa. It's fucking massive. Huge. For me, I was going to say, and please, pardon me. But Billy Joel. Bruce Springsteen.

Starting point is 00:48:57 I've tried. I know. You don't like theatrical music. Elton John, David Bowie. Yeah, there's, I, I've tried and it doesn't. I have never gotten more DMs after our 200 bands list about David Bowie. Oh, man. Yeah, I mean, he's got bangers, but you're not into theatrical.

Starting point is 00:49:15 I'm really not. Yeah, I'm really not. This is a crazy question to ask me. Favorite food, snack, treat? to sneak into a movie theater? I delight in buying snacks. I respect the sacred ground that I'm sitting in too much to sneak a fucking meal in. I have, listen, I've eaten spaghetti and meatballs in a theater before.

Starting point is 00:49:42 I'm proud of it. So I guess that. If they don't have Reese's pieces, I wish I snuck something. Sure. I'll say that. But no, I don't really. I like going to the movie. movies. And like, that to me is going to the movies. It's getting, getting your fucking stuff.

Starting point is 00:49:59 Absolutely. What non-heavy artist do you think would make the best heavy album? It's a good question. Listen, man. I, I, Olivia Rodriguez, she's, she's almost there. Give me, give me a week with her in a studio. And we will, we will have a classic punk album. I talk about it all the time, but Bjork could for sure make a good. Oh, yeah, 100%. She'd probably love to. Yeah, and she knows.

Starting point is 00:50:29 She knows exactly what's up. Top five records you reach for during autumn. We just answered that in two weeks ago's episode, right? Wow. Or in two weeks, whenever this goes up. Great question. Great question. Let's see.

Starting point is 00:50:47 Top five Nintendo Switch games. Awesome. I just got the Catamari remake. fucking love that game. It's a remake, so I don't know if it really counts, but I'll say Breath of the Wild because of how knew it was and how different it was.

Starting point is 00:51:08 I know, I'm not, listen, I don't think, I don't think it's the end all. I think that franchise is taking a die. Dude, when Animal Crossing came out, like over COVID, and everyone was playing it. It was a phenomenon. I had the best time playing that game. I really...

Starting point is 00:51:29 I had fun for a week. It was maybe a month or two for me, so I'm not saying it was like an ever-flowing stream, but it was cool. I really just enjoy... I like being a part of when, like, when Pokemon Go first popped. It was like awesome.

Starting point is 00:51:43 No, I mean, that was like a world-changing event. For me, it would be Mario Odyssey. Oh, yeah. Super Marlboro's Wonder. Mario Rabbits, whatever, kingdom, a Mario RPG remake, and Tetris 99.

Starting point is 00:52:03 I'll lastly say Stardue Valley, unbeatable game, and Luigi's Mansion. Very good. You know what sucked is the Luigi's Mansion came out on Halloween day. Did it? You know?

Starting point is 00:52:18 Which you would think ideally is the perfect day for something like that. Yeah. But that's when I'm, I want to be doing Halloween stuff all month off. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to sit in game. You're right.

Starting point is 00:52:28 You're right. I'm out of the season, November 1st, you know? Chestnuts are roasting. Yeah, straight up. Yeah, dude. On an open fire. Changeover is done. It's instantaneous.

Starting point is 00:52:41 Shadiest place you've ever stopped on tour. The Motel 6 near Graceland. Don't fucking stay there. Everybody but one room lives there. Oh, that one. Yes. Yes. I'll go there.

Starting point is 00:52:58 In the most recent memory on the Kubla Khan tour that we did, it was an off day or something, we were going through Arkansas somewhere around there, like Shreveport or Little Rock, like in there. We were just looking for a place to eat, and we drove through a town somewhere in Arkansas that straight up looked like where the Yellow King is cutting grass in True Detective.

Starting point is 00:53:21 So much, in fact, that we like kind of stopped and looked because it was so like, is this the school? Is this actually it? Yeah, probably what? I mean, you say it was Louisiana? It was Alabama. I think that's all Louisiana. Yeah, I think you're right.

Starting point is 00:53:36 But it was that similar, and it was just like, it gave us the fucking will. CBG. CBGs. Also, the between Detroit and Toronto is wild, dude. Just those on route stops and it's just wild. It's just nothing. Yeah, that's NPC land. It's wild.

Starting point is 00:54:00 Let's see. What non-hardcore song you spin-kicking to? Ah. Wolf Moon. I really, really, really resent anyone who does that kind of shit at, like, a not hardcore show. Yeah, I know. I agree. Other than whoever threw the first spin kick, which was for sure to the Beatles.

Starting point is 00:54:24 Right. Yeah, for sure. So my answer is day-tripper. What's the weird thing you do when no one's around? Oh, I would love, Colin, the floor is yours. I would love to hear what you do when no one's wrong. Where do I begin? Where do I begin?

Starting point is 00:54:41 Do you have home video? Do you have cameras in your house? I used to. Used to. I don't anymore. I shred the skin off my feet. Yeah, you got foot. What's up with that?

Starting point is 00:54:53 I absolutely pulverized. the skin from my feet. I rip off every morsel left hanging. And then when you're in the shower, the next day it doesn't hurt so bad. Dan Raw. You ever use like working feet? You know what that stuff is?

Starting point is 00:55:11 No. But if I do moisturiser or anything on it, it's even worse. I can't stop. It's just a thing I do. Yeah. I claw my nails off. I'll rip my toenails off.

Starting point is 00:55:24 Oh, my God. But when I'm alone, I'm listening to ASM. pretty much all the time. I will have discussions out loud. But like with what I'm, I have like anxiety about like, okay, this thing is probably going to happen. I should be prepared on how to handle it.

Starting point is 00:55:45 You rehearse? And I'll kind of rehearse just to make sure I'm like ready for something I'm expecting. And whether that's like stuff for the show. That's like really endearing where mine is disgusting. Well, I got others. But whether that's, you know, for the show or just like an awkward conversation or something with my parents or, you know, whatever. Yeah. Meeting someone for the first time, you know, I like to just kind of like get a rep in, you know. I will, I don't know what else. I sing a lot poorly. But I'm a big whistler.

Starting point is 00:56:24 Yeah, I'll whistle. I'm whistling. I'll sing. People. I hate it. I'm tapping all day. Dude, I tap on, yeah, I tap all the day.

Starting point is 00:56:34 If I'm, my computer, like around my mouse, it's like, boop-bl-bl-bl-bl- like I'm always feet are doing double-base. I'm the best double-base player

Starting point is 00:56:42 in the world, dude, do you know how, I don't really practice drums a lot, but I keep my chops up on desks and with just doing double-base all day. How good is your left foot kick in the car? My left foot is my dominant foot.

Starting point is 00:56:55 So in the car, you're fucking, Does that mean that when you're playing Is your left foot Not I lead with my left Really? So like if you're doing four on the floor It's left foot No

Starting point is 00:57:07 You're using right foot But if I'm I do right foot Like as if I'm single It's a single beat Yeah It's all right foot So I'm saying If it's double kick that is leading

Starting point is 00:57:18 If there's double kick at all Or a pattern with a little Yeah It starts left right left So I alternate which leads, which is some Vinny Paul's shit that a lot of people can't do. When you're driving and your right foot is occupied,

Starting point is 00:57:33 your left foot is your kick drum. That's a fact. And I'm great. My left foot kicks ass. Do you have a spooky playlist for Halloween? I do. I made an incredible one last year. I can maybe see if I can put it in right here.

Starting point is 00:57:49 Is that a thing you can do on YouTube, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, look at that. Is that music or movie? Because you have your movie calendar, too. That is... I do have a movie calendar. I'll do another one.

Starting point is 00:58:01 Okay. Maybe I already did it, and maybe it's... Here it is. Just giving yourself homework assignments. Yeah, perfect. Top five Japanese hardcore bands. All you, brother. Bastard, death side, judgment, gizum, lip cream.

Starting point is 00:58:26 What was the last one? Lip cream. Like lip? Lip cream. Wow. Unbelievable. Never heard of it. Nine Shocks Terror, legendary record.

Starting point is 00:58:35 Check it out. Episode on defunct, broken up bands that didn't really hit when they're around but would have popped off and they came out in 2024. Let me tell you a band that would have popped off if they came out now. Upper Ground from Australia. Wow. Remember that? Like the girl, the girl singer.

Starting point is 00:58:51 Sarah, the girl singer? It's a name I've not heard of in a long time. I think that with some of the stuff popping off today, upper ground would have exploded. Remember Dead City? You remember Dead City. Yeah, that's what comes to mind for me. It's like, that band just wrong place, wrong time, I guess.

Starting point is 00:59:12 Best place, worst time, you know? Crazy. Holy fuck. God damn, the 21st century. They're only LP. Yep. Sounds amazing. Bangor after bangor.

Starting point is 00:59:25 Yep. Hard pits, great lyrics. truly a band that could have had it all, should have had it all. Yep. Who is the little fucker of each of your respective bands? Who is the dad slash parent?

Starting point is 00:59:37 Who's the realist eater? Wow. Okay. Little fucker in twitching tongues is now probably Mike. Okay. Mike is the one that'll, you know, he'll tickle you from behind.

Starting point is 00:59:53 Okay. Dad parent is Taylor. Realist eater is probably me or Sean Martin. Sean's an animal. He eats. But the real estate eater of any of the bands, this is a fact, is George from Dead Body. Really?

Starting point is 01:00:08 If I'm ever in a situation where it's like you need to eat all this for a million dollars, I'm calling George. Wow. It is crazy. He got nine items at Taco Bell and he said he was keeping it light that day. And this is the thing. I said this in the episode after when we did this. the sandwiched-sook tour where he got a

Starting point is 01:00:28 Philly Cheesesteak from Wawa. Yeah. Every mod. Think about 27 months. Just loaded it up. A dollar a mod. He dragged it through the garden. Holy shit. Yes, dude. Crazy. Let's see. Little fucker

Starting point is 01:00:45 for different reasons is probably Chris. I say with all due respect, Christopher, I love you. Dad is definitely James. And I think mom is Chris and then I'm kind of like cool uncle. Realist eater is kind of a toss-up between me and James.

Starting point is 01:01:04 I actually don't know because- You think so? Because Nick can eat, right? Nick can eat, but Nick doesn't partake in sweets. So half of his intake is done, you know? James, yeah, exactly. James and I, I've said this before. We share a tongue.

Starting point is 01:01:18 Like what he likes, I like, and vice versa, with very little exception. But neither of us have ever boasted about, like, we've never said, like, I can eat X amount of, nuggets in any given time or something and make a fool out of ourselves. But I do think, I have seen him like put some away. So it's kind of a toss-up. I think it depends on just the day, honestly.

Starting point is 01:01:40 I got you. Who is the most bizarre person in hardcore? I mean, that's a tough question. I mean, I wouldn't say bizarre. I would say the most unique, one of a kind of. individual who I would love to just roll a microphone on and let speak for 24 straight hours is Gian from King 9. That's a good answer.

Starting point is 01:02:11 There will never be another one. Al Pacino and Heat is playing Giann. Wow. Not the other way around. Have you said that before out loud? Is this something you thought of? Only to Gian. That's really well said.

Starting point is 01:02:28 It's a fact. I'm going to say, and this is like, I'm thinking bizarre as in unique, like you said, like no derogatory sense to it. But just like a unique perspective, uniquely there from the start and like blah, blah, blah, is Brody. Who, like that is a wild perspective to have to come from, like what Bakersfield, where is he from originally? well he uh he's billed from van eyes you know yeah yeah yeah so it's complicated yeah so to come from wherever he came from palm new and to work his ass off and you know yeah always be as a as a union lighting tech at first and be involved in music and touring and blah blah blah and then to get

Starting point is 01:03:16 to where he got he's fucking and it's doing that while while being where everybody else was sure he would fail, you know? And like, oh, cool, you're wrestling. Right, right. And now he's... While still doing a band. Exactly. And being perfect.

Starting point is 01:03:35 That is a good answer if you change the perspective of the word bizarre. But that is a bizarre... Well, it's the thing that when wrestling fans find out he's in the band, they're like, what the fuck? That's bizarre. When people who like the band found out he's a wrestler on TV, they go, that's fucking bizarre. Yeah. Backtrack interview?

Starting point is 01:03:54 Yeah, that'll happen. How old is the new Soul Search record was part two? Very old. 2012, I think? That's right, yeah. Maybe 13? Very old. Backtrack, Andrew, we'll have Vital on at some point.

Starting point is 01:04:10 Yeah, I would love. He is one of the best yappers. Guy can tell a story. He's a quick. He's a story smith for sure. Either of you guys, fishermen? I love to fish, actually. I've only done it one time.

Starting point is 01:04:26 I don't think I was very good at casting the reel then. Really? How old? I would like to give it a shot. Seven. Yeah. I've been fishing a few times. What I've never done is like caught a fish,

Starting point is 01:04:40 cleaned the fish, ate the fish. I would really like to do that. I would release it for sure. Yeah. This is an interesting question right here. Okay. What do you get if you use code hardlaw on manscape.com? I'm so glad you asked.

Starting point is 01:04:52 Probably the most important question of the entire episode. you get 20% off of your entire order, anything, sitewide. Is that all? No, no, no, no. You fool. You get 20% off and free shipping. Well, that's just about the best goddamn deal I've ever heard in my fucking life. So go to manscape.com right now, you fool.

Starting point is 01:05:16 Well, I finish this episode first and then go. Yeah, yeah. But remember this. Because if you use corner hard, you're getting 20% off of any of those things. The lawnmower, the hedge trimmer, the crop revival. The crop preserver. There's crops you ain't even fucking heard of yet that they can help you get rid of.

Starting point is 01:05:32 Every stupid little hair on your goddamn body stinks and they will help you unstink it. What are you thinking? Stop stinking. Wow. Manscapes. It's really good, man. Well said. What's your favorite Pokemon?

Starting point is 01:05:51 So I don't know anything beyond really the first 151, you know? Yeah. other than a couple of legendary and a few odd guys who care. Some of the starters from the later ones. Pitplup was adorable. Chickorita. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:06:04 Torch him. My all-time favorite was Garidos. I always thought he was dope. Dragon rage, hyperbeam. You could surf with him. Torchick. He rocks. But I really am partial to War Turtle.

Starting point is 01:06:18 War Turtle. War Turtle. I fucking love him. Big fan. I'm a gangar man through and through. I mean. I'm a day. gangar a fissionada unbeatable yeah i love gangar i love that little grin i love when he

Starting point is 01:06:31 does the like anime like he smile and it scares everybody yeah so awesome uh favorite math core chaotic hardcore band it's just so not our shit yeah i don't know if i have a reasonable answer when i mean converges convert they're all doing converge and converge is doing kiv god our god you know and yeah well yeah they're doing roarsack and but i mean cave-in converger are the the blueprints. I think when I hear the term math core, I'm just immediately like

Starting point is 01:07:06 yeah, I don't know. Yeah, what's the point? I don't, I hate math. Yeah. Favorite Scranton, Wilkes-Barre vans? Bad seed and the Virgos. Straight up to it. Yeah, I mean, great answer.

Starting point is 01:07:23 I mean, War hungry is amazing. Cold world's amazing. There's obvious, there's many that came out of that little area. It's a really small title fight for God's sake. But, yeah, Bad Seed changed a lot. And then DeVurgos are the heaviest band out of Pennsylvania. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:07:39 Favorite thing about the hard lore community you've created? Dude. I've said this before. I can't handle critiques of my criticism. So it's difficult for me to like sometimes go and look at what particularly comments and whatever are. but our discord in particular of that portion of the Hardler community is so wonderfully supportive.

Starting point is 01:08:03 It's very special. It's fucking awesome. And again, I was I was like actively against it. Yeah, when it started because I was just like, I don't understand the point of this. Dude,

Starting point is 01:08:11 this is for gaming. You should tell the story about the two pop star names. If I give it away, it'll ruin the story where you thought they were talking about our significant others. Oh, dude. That was crazy.

Starting point is 01:08:26 It's a great story. There was a day where the Discord almost got nuked. And I was with you. Like when you explained it, I was with you. I was like, all right, yeah. The odds of this are truly unblue. It was like, I saw a comment that said, I think Lana is cooler, but I think Taylor is hotter.

Starting point is 01:08:52 And think about that in context of the Hardlord, chord. That's my wife's name and Bo's girlfriend's name. So we were like... So we're like seeing red. It's like, well, fuck you guys. Like, you're not talking about this. And it took a few minutes to realize that they're talking about Lana Del Rey and Taylor Swift.

Starting point is 01:09:14 I, Hulk stopped smashing. But it was, I mean, we never would put that together without it, which was hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, honestly. Yeah, I love the discord. I also, my favorite thing to see ever. And it's like, at the end of the day, why we do it. Okay.

Starting point is 01:09:33 It's because it'll be somebody on their Instagram story or something playing like time ends. Yeah. Being like, just heard Marauder for the first time. Yeah. Or some shit. You know, just heard everybody gets hurt. Any of these bands that we talk about for a few minutes put in a playlist or something. And then we introduced this somebody to something.

Starting point is 01:09:55 we love, that's my favorite thing. It's awesome. It's really awesome. I agree. If Trader Joe's released a Baja Blast clone, what would it be called? I don't know, something, they would find some kind of tropical racist thing to call it. Yeah. You know? So bad that we can't even joke about it without.

Starting point is 01:10:14 No. Yeah. If you really think about some of the Trader Joe's generics, it's kind of wild. Crazy. Kind of wild. Yeah. Thoughts on those two throw down Pantera rip records. I remember when Vendetta came out And I was very much like Well this isn't really what I'm looking for

Starting point is 01:10:30 You know Yeah I mean I think that's one of the best examples Ever of like what not to do as a man Even if there's some bangers on them Yeah Evolving and changing so drastically Like overnight is just It's never gonna work

Starting point is 01:10:45 Yeah I don't think so So I would just say it's not really I'll listen to Pantera if that's one Right Not our thing Yeah. I don't know how well that went for them. I don't either.

Starting point is 01:10:58 But I wish them to the best. What are the most career questioning moments for you guys and what did you do? Your help pull yourselves out of it. Also, any advice for jumpstarting a career and designing merch layout? Two great questions. Career, defiant questioning moments, disharmony for me. Made me rethink music and have a normal job for like a year. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:21 advice for jumpstart your career in designing merch do a couple pro bono straight up and any band worth or salt will pay you anyway but design some stuff that you think is cool or look at a band's stuff and think okay I think I think they would like this I'm going to send them and see what they think

Starting point is 01:11:42 if they like it they'll probably use you again the guy who did the new the Twitchfitts volume two cover art did it as fan art so sick no expectations immediately it was like hey man I'm going to pay you for this and here it is I like getting even if I don't happen to respond

Starting point is 01:12:04 sometimes that's out of just being too busy or out of like I don't want to open a conversation but I always like getting like hey I made this like oh I just felt inspired made this kind of thing it's like that and we have utilized that in the past there's nothing shoot your shot do it do whatever. Yeah. I don't think the approach of, I am offering two designs for $150 is as effective as,

Starting point is 01:12:31 hey, I gave this a shot. What do you think? What do you think? Yeah. And if it sucks, it sucks. Career if it rocks, you rock. And you'll probably get asked to do more. 100%. You know, just keep doing it until, I don't know, just keep trying. Yeah. Career-defighting moment for me was when I got laid off from my last job. And I was like, fuck. Like, dude, because getting laid off, it wasn't, the contract ended. It wasn't like performance based or anything. It was just like, oh, this ended.

Starting point is 01:13:02 And you still feel like a piece of shit. Like, it doesn't matter. And then feeling like, I got to get a job. I got to do something. And then it was just kind of like, Hardler is doing pretty good. Maybe I don't need a job. And that was like a defining moment of my adult life of like, okay, I'm going to do this. And it's been great.

Starting point is 01:13:25 Somebody said, kind of asked this before, but what about a Hardlord Discord sourced EP? Some riffs, some lyrics, some beats, some vocal features. I think you guys should do that. That's exactly what I was going to say. I would love to hear, I would love to hear what you all come up with. Yeah. And if it rocks, I'll take my 1%. I would like love to listen to that.

Starting point is 01:13:48 I would love to hear what. If it rocks, we'll put it out. There you go. If you had to give up one of your senses. which one are you given up? Touch, no. Smell for me. But then do you worry about not being able to taste?

Starting point is 01:14:04 No, because when I have COVID and I lose my sense of smell, I don't lose my sense of taste. I have an incredibly strong sense of taste. Oh, that's right. That's right. It's got to be one of those, too, because I don't want to be blind. I definitely don't want to be deaf. If I can't take...

Starting point is 01:14:19 I can live without smelling shit, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't live without taste of. a buffalo wing. Or not hearing marauder. Yeah. Going deaf is one of my biggest fears, for real. So I guess I'll choose smell.

Starting point is 01:14:33 I think you're right. I think that's kind of the only answer. Or how about, so there's other senses. Like those are the five major senses, but there's other senses. It's the five. There's direction.

Starting point is 01:14:43 There's, what makes you feel nauseous? I'll lose that one. Thank you. Post-s supremacy, hate breed, or post-venom's marauder. Post-Sopermacy hate breed. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:14:54 100% because self-title has some incredibly hard tracks on it. You guys know anything about title fight status? Ben is in Citizen. Ned is in Glitterer. Shane has started writing some music again. I don't know what Jamie's doing, but that's their status. They're doing their thing. If it's time, it's time.

Starting point is 01:15:13 Well said. Colin and Ball, I'm thinking about covering a few hardcore songs for my school's talent show. Cool. What would be a hardest fuck song to play? I'll tell you what I covered in my high school. talent show real early on was ill blood by no warning. Really? I played drums.

Starting point is 01:15:33 Yep. We played a full set. We opened with ill blood. We played our like shitty songs. We closed with ill blood. Twice? The song, Illblood.

Starting point is 01:15:45 Swear to God. Dude, my senior talent show I played Take On Me by Aha. That's fucking awesome. It was awesome. Who sank? Did he hit it? Who sang? this kid Diego sang he killed it

Starting point is 01:16:01 you play drums I played drums the band was Albert Brandon Colin Diego ABCD wow this is Matt Kevin Kyle Bo MKKKB

Starting point is 01:16:12 you could start a cool tech YouTube channel but I don't know about a band a band dude What is Bo most excited about for the Haypre tour that you've been on for a few weeks now

Starting point is 01:16:24 I am excited This is going to sound lame, but I'm excited to, like, eat and work out with my guys and just kind of, like, really hone in, you know? I don't know. I don't know how to describe it, but, like, when you can be really consistent, it helps. I can tell you what you should be excited for. Uh-huh. Well, I wasn't done answering, so maybe. Okay.

Starting point is 01:16:49 Well, you really, but you weren't going to say this. Okay. Hanging out with Florida Frank. Oh, dude. I mean, I don't want to impose and I don't want to. expect I'm going to hang out or get to know anyone, you know. He's coming for you. I can't wait.

Starting point is 01:17:03 And it's going to be the best. It's the best. He's incredible. And I'm very excited to watch both Carcass and Haybrid. I've seen Haybrid before. I've never seen Carcass before. Very excited to see Carcass. Beautiful. How do you like or how do you feel about open-ending movies? It depends how open. I'm so fucking sick of them. So, like, Pulp Fiction.

Starting point is 01:17:31 It's an open-ended movie. Yeah, but like... Or the thing or hateful late. But like most of the big events resolve, you know? Almost all of them resolve. Okay. Now, it's like a trend in movies to just not have an ending. Example?

Starting point is 01:17:54 Anything that's been out for a minute, maybe. Yeah, let's see. How do I go about this? So, you know the precedent that like Donnie Darko set with things? Excellent. And like that worked for Donnie Darko. Yeah. Even though it wasn't a hit and immediately, but over time it became this cult thing and people liked talking about it even though it makes no sense.

Starting point is 01:18:18 Really good. And nothing really happens. Yeah. A lot of movies took that and ran with it. And, you know, directors and writers went with the whole like, you know, we wanted to leave it open to the viewer's interpretation for what happened. happened. And I get, I, I enjoy that to an extent. But you're like, at the end of the day, your story is only as good as your ending. Yeah, it's like a joke without a punchline. It's a song without a hook. It's crazy, man. Yeah. And I'm, I'm sick, I'm sick of fully interpretive

Starting point is 01:18:50 endings. Yeah, don't. Give me something and then let me interpret something. So that's why I always harp on about the witch. That has like, oh, there's a, it, there's a, payoff. I love a payoff where it's like, this is the ending. This is what happens. I love a payoff. Yeah. I mean, that's a great payoff. But that movie is like two hours of, man, if this doesn't pay off, this sucks. Totally, which is why it's so satisfying. It is. Another movie that does that very well is called Take Shelter. Okay. With Michael Shannon. Okay. Where you're just fucking, this guy is getting torn apart for his insane opinion the entire time. I don't want to spoil it. Yeah. But it's good.

Starting point is 01:19:34 It's got a payoff, you're saying? Yeah, big time. Cool. Very fast, but it does. If you weren't playing music and doing the podcast, what do you guys you think you'd be doing instead? Like, realistically, I would be doing IT, doing at-home IT stuff. But, like, if you never played music and you never did a podcast, like, where would your life had gone? I was going to potentially go to school to be a history teacher, for real.

Starting point is 01:20:02 I think that you would be a highly accredited history professor at this point. I don't know about that. I do. I would, I would, I considered that. And then it was also going to school to be a luthier, work on guitarists and shit. That'd be cool. But this is if you never discovered music. Okay.

Starting point is 01:20:22 So, yeah, so it would have been history or it would have been pursuing acting. I wanted to be an actor when I was a kid. That's what I wanted to do. So me too. My whole childhood and teenage years were musical theater, acting workshops, improv. And then it was like, all right, I'm going to go on tour, so I can't do any of that. So I think without music, I would have gone full sale into that world. And who knows?

Starting point is 01:20:49 There's a thing about actors wanting to be musicians and musicians wanting to be actors. It is. It's like art envy. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's like, man, what you guys do? They do the art I can't do, fucker. It's cool.

Starting point is 01:21:03 Yeah. I think it's probably easier for a musician to act than it is for an actor to get into music. Because you are acting on stage. Like, no matter what. It's a performance nonetheless. It's a performance. Exactly. Best deal you ever got on a piece of media slash merch? Dude, I love the also just the question of best deal you ever got.

Starting point is 01:21:23 Best deal you ever got is lost. What's the best deal you ever got? I'll tell you. Mine would be 20% for your own. free shipping off, man's key. These KRK monitors that I have. There's a pawn shop that I go to in Wicker Park. I go every couple months because you just never know.

Starting point is 01:21:40 I've talked about this. It's like somebody sells their personal studio. Somebody sells whatever. They, you know, let's say the monitors are 200 each, so 400. A pair are new, brand new. So they'll price them 160, right? Sure. They didn't realize it was for the pair.

Starting point is 01:21:56 So I got the, or each. So I got the pair. for 160. Wow. Greatest DLA ever got. Highway of fucking robbery. Yeah, straight up, dude. And they were, had them for years.

Starting point is 01:22:08 There are, you know, I've got a, I've got a couple of R.L guys at this point. My loyal, loyal compadres, what they've done for me is I can never thank them enough, you know? Yeah. Josh and Joel, but it's,

Starting point is 01:22:26 I know, I think I have one of the greatest non-employee collections of jackets in history. Dude, it's getting chilly out and you're just... Oh, I am rubbing my hands together like Birdman. Not, you know... I don't know if he's complicit in whatever's going on with Diddy, but I'm rubbing my hands together nonetheless.

Starting point is 01:22:50 Yeah. But best deal I ever got. Yeah, what's the best? At the Rose Bowl, the other day. Or, like, last month, I got a... Smoke them all, Life of Agony Long Sleeve for 50 bucks. That's a great deal. That's a $500 shirt.

Starting point is 01:23:05 I have an original pusshead from the 80s Metallica shirt, and the guy charged me $7. That's so stupid. I brought 10. He made me wait for him to get change. He was like, no, man, metal head's got to stick together. Seven bucks. So stupid. Swear to God.

Starting point is 01:23:22 Favorite euphemisms for excusing yourself from a group to go take a poo? Well, it's complicated So what I say generally is like I'm going to shit myself Yeah, you break Every time Yeah, you just smash any But my number one euphemism

Starting point is 01:23:38 And it's when a fart Stinks because you have to shit You know what I say? What do you say? Smoke around the missile Just Where you fart And everybody's like

Starting point is 01:23:51 Oh my God And then you go Oh, that's just missile smoke I got to go Jesus I used to have a bit where I would When it was time I would do this

Starting point is 01:24:04 And the those the people with me knew that it meant I was getting the call I had to go Okay That's good The bat signal The chat signal The scat signal We just workshoped that live

Starting point is 01:24:23 The scat signal That's good If Bo and Colin started a musical project What would the vibe be? and who would play what? We've talked about this before. Yeah. Dark industrial shit, right?

Starting point is 01:24:35 I think that would be cool. And I think it would be cool if we both did everything. Because we damn well could. And drums wouldn't be live, you know, if it was that kind of thing. So we could both just switch off to everything. That's dope.

Starting point is 01:24:50 What genre of music would you see yourselves doing outside of the metal hardcore stratosphere? Does that include outside of like punk too. Let's just say. Sure. You know? My dream is for to, for some Johnny Marr to walk into my life, you know? Wow. And say, hey man, I just wrote this this like perfect New Wave indie rock record.

Starting point is 01:25:22 Yeah. Can you sing on it? Yeah. Where I can do the crooning that I've always dreamed to do it. Yeah. Where I don't have to write music, you know? Yeah. I'll contribute to structures and whatnot, but I don't want to, I just get to show up and sing. Sounds amazing. So Smith's Morrissey type is, that's the dream. That's a great answer. Mine would be like weird ambient stuff.

Starting point is 01:25:45 I would love to have all of the tools at my disposal, a room full of synthesizers, keyboards, everything needed to create soundscapes, much like Gabe. And knowing how to use them. And knowing how to use them, yeah, like Neo, just getting it in my brain. So many buttons. And just being able to do stuff like Tim Hacker and like all this shit I constantly listen to. Like when Dave plays Andia Soundscape after he eats the seahorses. Exactly. It was a really beautiful song.

Starting point is 01:26:14 Best DIY show you ever played? So fucking many. That's a needle in a needle stack. It is. But what was like amazing? Let me think. I'll tell you the best DIY show I've ever been to was, I think, I think, in terms of, Affairns at Chateau Harder, which was Joe Harder from Pressure's House in Recita.

Starting point is 01:26:37 And there was a circle pit around his kitchen bar. It was amazing. That's awesome. Yeah. So there was a lot of shows there. I saw Rain Supreme there. I saw many bands there. It was great.

Starting point is 01:26:51 There was just an era. The best one I've ever been to was a Halloween show. I sang for a Misfits cover set. There was 300 people in the basement. It was the biggest fire hazard. It was horrible. But it was incredible. It's perfect.

Starting point is 01:27:06 Damn. Hell yeah. Somebody said Jeremy Bollm on the pod when. It's a good idea. Yeah, we're working on it. I think we plan to, they have a new album coming out soon. So I think as soon as Bo is back, that will be.

Starting point is 01:27:21 So possibly November. Yes. Favorite body parts of train at the gym? Excellent question. Shoulder. Oh, dude. Shoulders all. day.

Starting point is 01:27:32 It's the best day. The shoulders. It's kind of the hack. And it's bad. It's a bad practice to just like focus on that and not do the rest. So I'm not advocating for that. But if you build up your shoulders, everything like sits on you different. Your stature is different.

Starting point is 01:27:49 And when people even when they say hello, they're going to give you a, hey man, like they're going to give you a pat on the shoulder. And even literally tonight I got a whoa. And it's nice. I mean, you're fucking massive. Um, least favorite, I'll tell you what, my goddamn hamstrings. Oh, horrible, dude. Cut these fucking things out. Losing my mind. My jeans were not just built for leg mass. Dude, dude, hamstring curls? So hard. Leg curls. Horrible.

Starting point is 01:28:14 Oh, God. Misery. Crypted ranking tier list. I feel like you've got a lot of cryptid opinions. Let's do three. Okay. Chupacabre number one. Right? My favorite thing about you. My favorite thing about you. Number two. Mothman number three.

Starting point is 01:28:36 Mothman number one. He's the harbinger of death. He's numero, no, he's so sick. Scary. There were sightings over O'Hare. There were sightings over Lollapalooza once. Okay.

Starting point is 01:28:48 People reported. I'll say Bigfoot, because, come on. That's iconic. Bigfoot's. Bigfoot is old school. Old school. I love Bigfoot. And then,

Starting point is 01:29:04 Taylor, what's the Northern Wisconsin cryptid that you talk about? The Rhinelander Hodag is actually this crazy, such a stupid fucking name. It's awesome. It's like this like bear dragon,

Starting point is 01:29:20 lion thing. She's probably losing your mind right now, but she's really into it. She showed me. It's pretty sick. You know, I'm, listen, growing up in the valley

Starting point is 01:29:29 half of my friends are from Mexico or their parents from Mexico you know but is the Chupacama? So hearing about the Chupacabra has me shaking in my fucking boots What does the Chupacabra do? Like what is...

Starting point is 01:29:41 Oh By mistake. Yeah. Losieto. So yeah, exactly. Be careful. They're not. Least favorite

Starting point is 01:29:58 attitude era character slash wrestler. A great question. Lease. Do both. Do favorite and least favorite. Attitudes. So, WWF, specifically. Attitude, my favorite was Cain. Now my least favorite is Cain. Lease favorite in that time, who I fucking hated to see was Triple H.

Starting point is 01:30:19 Really? I hated him. Oh, see, I was such a DX guy that, like, I hated. He was just, I was with him, you know? I despised him. Which means he was great at his job. Yeah, totally. Totally. But I guess I was just kind of a little, I liked the heel.

Starting point is 01:30:34 Yeah. Kind of, I guess. I don't know. I hated gold dust. Oh, I loved gold dust. But so I like classic gold dust. I hated when he got weird and did like the bonded shit and was with, what was the short girl's name? Not Malina or something?

Starting point is 01:30:53 Charlena. Yeah, something like that. She was in the oddities. Wasn't that his real wife? No, no. Terry Ronald? Terry, yeah, that's Terry. There was,

Starting point is 01:31:01 Luna, Luna. Oh, Luna, Vashon. That era, where it's just, like, weird and not even Gold Dust, just like being, I hated him. God did I hate it. I liked it. I was down.

Starting point is 01:31:12 I love him now. I was way down with him. I'm a Dustin Rhodes guy now. Yeah, he's awesome. Favorite pasta, I think we've answered this many times. Mine is Rigotone. I don't remember what I said, but Penny, classic.

Starting point is 01:31:27 Rigotone Jr., some call it. Oh Let's see What? Come on Somebody said What's the band Worst band

Starting point is 01:31:37 Literally of all time Worst I'm sick of it We just did like Three hours of negativity And it's the only time We've ever done that And it's biting us on the ass Still

Starting point is 01:31:46 Sorry man It's okay It's fine But what's the worst one Um Here's the thing Imagine The worst man of all time

Starting point is 01:31:59 We don't know Oh But like You know band that's on the radio actively and very successful of all times? They don't give a shit. Because they're on the radio and they're successful. But it's Imagine Dragons.

Starting point is 01:32:13 It just feels like low-hanging fruit. But it is. Of course it is. I think I like 21 pilots less than I like. Imagine Dragons. Fair enough. It might be them. Have you received any Hardlaw fan fix?

Starting point is 01:32:27 Come on. Enough. Please write them. Yeah. What's the worst question you ever got? the worst kinds of questions are like, hey, I met you last year. Do you remember me? Like those kind of things was just like, bro, I'm sorry, I don't. I don't. I'm shot.

Starting point is 01:32:50 Please don't put me in that way. Yeah, that's some shot. Hey, I'm John. We met at this fest and we talked about this. That's what I need. Hit me with that. And I'm all, I'm with you. And it's just, it's not your fault. No. No. No. No. It's not your fault. Favorite sneaker? For me, it's the

Starting point is 01:33:08 currently, it's the Stone Island Newboughton, the 991 v2. I got a pair of New Balance recently. I didn't tell you, but they're very comfortable. They're really nice. I know. They're not as cool as yours.

Starting point is 01:33:20 And then the Shattered Backboard and the Atmos AirMax 1. What's your favorite sneaker of all time? Do Samba's count of sneakers? Yeah, it's a sneaker. I've been rocked. They're trying to. They're way more comfortable than I would have expected.

Starting point is 01:33:33 Have ever told the The story about I'm going back to the worst question I've ever gotten before and it was brutal But you're going to love this It was Someone from a record label That we both

Starting point is 01:33:48 Have been involved with before I already know who Okay And we're at a fest And we're talking And another person's there And this person goes Bo, have you ever heard of this band

Starting point is 01:34:02 They're from this country, not America, around this time, this kind of death metal, blah, blah, blah. They've been long. And I'm like, oh, no, no, not really. And he goes, okay. Well, this is blah from that band. And I have to go, oh, hey, good to meet you. That was the worst question I've ever gotten. Fucking miserable.

Starting point is 01:34:30 2016, I'll never forget. Jesus Christ. Favorite guests you've ever had feature on one of your songs? Harm's Way doesn't really do features. You're literally one of the only ones. Me and King Woman, though. Yeah, that's true. She's a good one.

Starting point is 01:34:45 Her is rock. So that was like kind of the coolest one. Yours is my personal favorite because it's like special to me, you know? It's probably my favorite one I've ever done. Really? That's sick. Yeah, I think that and the Pain of Truth one. And those are the two.

Starting point is 01:35:03 Because like the Harm's Way one was like, and me and my boys, you know? Yeah, yeah. And you created that melody. That's true. There is no song I've sang on where I didn't create the melody. Yeah, but I'm just saying for the record, we gave you the lyrics and the placement.

Starting point is 01:35:21 I think James kind of talked it. Maybe something like that. But there was no melody. We really were like. That is true. Make it work on. Every guest part I've ever done, I wrote, at least melodically,

Starting point is 01:35:36 But I do. There's a couple coming out that I'm psyched about. Awesome. But that I've ever had, I love having Sarah Gibson live. And I'm excited for her to be on recording eventually. I've never seen someone kill a thing like that live. It's crazy. The way, the style in which she's singing and playing. Both demanding.

Starting point is 01:36:01 It's so technically difficult. Oh, it's crazy. It's amazing. Crazy stuff. Which band would open and maintain the best restaurant? You have to pick one of your bands. I don't know. I guess why would you?

Starting point is 01:36:15 You can pick it between. No, just so just and not of, not of our bands, any band. Oh, any band? In general, would open and maintain the best restaurant. Well, you can, I'm again, you got Mike. I got my, oh my God, you're right. You got a guy who does that. I think if it was switching tongues and God's hate together,

Starting point is 01:36:34 and it was made on, or Brody on the grill. Mike as the owner-propriator. Yeah. And you- As live entertainment. Then it would be, we would kill, dude. I'm trying to think of, of, you know, I could see never-ending game.

Starting point is 01:36:56 Opening like a nice hoagy or a sub-shop. Yeah. Yeah. Cosmic joke. Dude. Mac's just freaking out because, like, the lids. No, Little Fish is already doing that. They already have it.

Starting point is 01:37:11 That's the joke. They would serve fish sandwiches. Thoughts on hang gliders? I was just talking about this. I have zero empathy for it's because of like cave diving. Like I would, I'm never going to go cave diving, right? I have zero empathy for somebody who dies in a cave diving thing when it's like,

Starting point is 01:37:31 well, you shouldn't have been in there. And if, and that's why I will never be in that situation because I don't want to be the guy. So it's like a. couldn't be me type scenario. Could not be me. Hang glider is one of those things. It's one of those.

Starting point is 01:37:43 I'm not going hang gliding. What is your worst dark times memory from pre-TUI era? Worst? Yeah, like when H.C. was bad. I mean, Havehart played Chicago to seven people paid. Seven people paid. Oh, that's so bad.

Starting point is 01:38:06 It was dark. And I can say that because I brought it up and Pat remembered it. You know what I mean? For seven, like he will never forget that. Yeah, exactly. As much as he will never forget playing the 10,000 in Worcester. Precisely.

Starting point is 01:38:18 Thank you for that silver lining. David Havoc, Ep, when? We would love that. We would love nothing more. Favorite example of a what-if band? I mean, that was Dead City. That was Dead City. And what's the band after Only Living Witness?

Starting point is 01:38:42 Milltown. Milltown. Milltown is an amazing what-if ban. Because, I mean, I've heard the whole LP and goddamn. It's certified hit. It ain't right. This is cruel. If y'all were stranded on an island together and cannibalism was the only way to survive who eats who first.

Starting point is 01:39:01 I think you sleep longer. I do. Yeah. I don't know how that plays into the answer. Well, just do it quick, you know. Please. A rock to the head. bury me softly, brother.

Starting point is 01:39:16 Could either of you beat a kangaroo in combat? Depends. There's different breeds of kangaroo. Depends on the size. Some real gnarly ones. There's some big fuckers out there. I wouldn't want to. No, I like them.

Starting point is 01:39:29 I really do. I like them quite a bit. At the Brisbane, at the, was it, lone pine koala sanctuary? There's one with one eye. Yeah, dude. The old one. Yeah. Unbelievable.

Starting point is 01:39:40 And like, I wouldn't want to fuck with him. He's imposing, you know. Yeah. But yes, I do think there's some out there. We could both handle no problem. Will Zach Bagan's ever be a guest on the show? That is a absolute lifetime dream of mine. I would love to make happen.

Starting point is 01:39:57 So if anybody knows Zach and can put us in touch, I would drop everything. I would fly Beau to Vegas so that we could do that live. Oh, no. What's the most emotional onstage moment either of you have had? Oh, boy. The Common Suffering record release, you were on FaceTime for a little bit of it, but that was amazing. That was awesome.

Starting point is 01:40:27 Thank you, Taisu. Thank you, Tassu. Just the headlining at the Metro for a record release with my mom there. It's about as good as it gets for me. Yeah. I'd say my two are my dad hearing Preacher Man live for the first time. Do you know when and where that was? I think it was in Cincinnati.

Starting point is 01:40:49 Okay. In like 2013 or 14. Sure. Show was fine, but he lived in Texas at the time. I think like drove. Holy shit. Some, or he lived, he might have lived in Arkansas at the time and drove. That's better.

Starting point is 01:41:08 Yeah. And then Sound of Fury this year while Sarah was singing the Kale tribute was like fucking wrecked me. I'm glad there's no footage. Recent hardcore band you're surprised about not being popular. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:41:27 Because you never know. It could happen any minute now. And it just seems not productive. Exactly. You ever had the runs on stage? No. Yes. But you're... I was going to say,

Starting point is 01:41:43 because if you're singing different kind of muscle control, drumming different kind of muscle control, guitar playing is a third thing. I don't really ever have to worry about that. Yeah, there was one show where I've trusted a fart right before going on where I really shouldn't have. Oh, God.

Starting point is 01:41:58 Yeah. Do you remember the first show you ever played? Yeah, I do. It was... Tell me about it. So mine and Chris's first band was double crossed and there was a local venue

Starting point is 01:42:12 called the Fish Bowl coffee house and it was in the basement of like a church thing and they called and said hey we need a band to play tonight and we had zero songs we did like

Starting point is 01:42:24 I think we covered American Nightmare I was 13 covered American Nightmare covered Rise Against Bigwig AFI covered total immortal holy shit yeah 100% true

Starting point is 01:42:37 we may have played one or two and kids moshed like push pitted that's cool and it was like very like yes dude you know yeah that rips yeah i remember that chris played drums i play guitar damn the prophecy mine was my very first band was called buried in silence i was the singer uh we it was at studio s in north hollywood no longer around but it was all right it wasn't bad people moshed and i remember thinking like, oh, this is what I want to do forever. How old we? 13 or 14.

Starting point is 01:43:11 Yeah. So right around the same time. Did you play all originals? Oh, yeah. It's pretty impressive. No covers. Pretty impressive. Thanks, man.

Starting point is 01:43:19 Impressive. What's one current non-harkor or metal band that you haven't toured with? Current non? Why would we tour with a non-metal or hardcore band? We don't need to be doing that. How does that work? There's enough mixed bills out there. I want a...

Starting point is 01:43:37 I want same bills. Well, plus, like, like Holy Blade could. Yeah. But like God's sake, Tritchie Tongues Harm's Wake, I don't want the people who are going to see Choir Boy. Right. To get pummeled by people who are going to see our, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:43:52 Like, it just doesn't really. Totally. How involved, oh, how involved do you both go about designing of your album art slash merch? Just depends. You are. I am. My hand is on it. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:44:07 Nothing. There's nothing that I'm not. With God's hate, it is, it is me, Brody, and our buddy, Richie, and a triangle texting nonstop for a month straight, getting every single detail done. Twitching tongues is pretty much just me. And I'll send the spread like, here's what I've made. Just because I love, I love working with artists hands-on. I love paying them. You're very good. I love them being happy. You're very good at it. Thanks, man. I love art and I love, I'm passionate about like what I wear.

Starting point is 01:44:46 Totally, yeah. So I wouldn't I want to make things that I am want to wear? Also passionate about it and want to wear. It's a little more collaborative in our camp. Chris is really good at finding an artist. He's really good at like, I found this guy on Instagram. What do you guys think? And then we'll kind of in the group chat, put it together.

Starting point is 01:45:05 Europe on this last one, Casey, the hat that we had at Sound and Fury, the enemy is you hat, Casey was like designing it. And I was like, oh, put a bull's eye. And like, that was very like hands-on, very collaborative in the moment. So it just depends on the thing, you know. And that makes sense. I think that's how it is most of the time, you know? And then with the bigger the band, the less involved, which is kind of why that shit starts to suck. Dude. Some 41 merch. Oh, I bet it's grim. It was awful, dude. Now Green Day's merch was. good because they had modern, like, popular, great artists doing their spread. Well, it was interesting seeing the Sun 41 merch and then the Drug Church merch and then the Drug Church.

Starting point is 01:45:47 Because Drug Church merch was fire. Looked fantastic. Yeah. It is a very funny contrast. Yeah. Oh, somebody said, actually, what the fuck do you guys print the God's H shorts on? Because good God, do they compete? Those are not printed.

Starting point is 01:46:02 Those are manufactured by us. Very different. It's not a blank that's that we made those You know we just we like Did the measurements everything Oh good question In 2024-25 is it better for a band to record their own album And license it to a label or get a label to pay for the recording

Starting point is 01:46:22 As a label ourselves Obviously I'm like Yeah if you guys want us to pay that's fine You know But I as a musician As a musician as well Would recommend that band pay for stuff themselves

Starting point is 01:46:38 and own everything. Own it. Own everything. Technology is amazing these days. You can make things sound real good. That's right. Own it, own it, own it, own it. That would be my recommendation as well. Boom, done. Scariest song you've ever heard, like, could not put it on while home alone at night.

Starting point is 01:46:58 Ooh. Oh, that's a good one. Get us into the spirit, you know? Couldn't put it on. You know what? Video scared me when I was young. Was the mushroom head solitaire unraveling video? Never saw it, I don't think. There's nothing really scary about it at all.

Starting point is 01:47:18 But for some reason, it just connected me in a way that was like, these guys are scary. I can't listen to this alone. Whoa. Yeah. I remember the tool, schism music video, scared me, the guys with the bobbin heads. That makes sense. The nine-inch nails closer video.

Starting point is 01:47:35 scared the fuck out of me as a kid. Dude, you know, remember that compilation on YouTube about, like, hidden messages and songs? Yeah. That's scary to me still. Oh, where it's like stairway to heaven played backwards and shit. Here's to my sweet Satan. Yeah. That's still scary.

Starting point is 01:47:53 It is creepy. It is creepy. I'm trying to think if there is anything. My mom told me that when she was growing up, the song, Riders on the Storm by the Dors, like, petrified her. to the point where like if you put it on it's like the shining the be bram be bam bam brin like who something about it

Starting point is 01:48:13 just really got her just creeped her out yeah wow if I ever had one of those do you remember the first time you exed up you I don't remember the first I might have been when I was singing at that show it was to see AFI on the sing the sorrow tour with the explosion and the Blood Brothers

Starting point is 01:48:32 and I remember at least at least a third of the show was good you know Explosion rocks for any minute. Yeah, I don't know. Got in the van of my friends who were going, already exed up. Someone asked another straight-edge friend of mine who was in the van.

Starting point is 01:48:49 Like, are you going to ex-up? And they said, I'm not going to a hardcore show. And I went. You were like, fuck. Fuck. I thought this was a thing. You were. I was a child.

Starting point is 01:49:03 You were going to see an incredible straight-age front man. Rock a perfect album. I was 14, 15. Exactly. Yeah. Let's see. Can, I don't know, we talked about the moon landing in the first Professor Boe. Yeah, which is not.

Starting point is 01:49:20 Somebody asked what we think of the moon landing. I would say go to the Patreon and watch Professor Bo be one. Hey, yep. What's the best and worst movie you've seen recently? Great. Best, oh, you're not going to like my answer for worse. Best, though. How recent is reason.

Starting point is 01:49:41 Dune 2 is probably the last, like, amazing movie I saw. Okay. Oh, no, you know what? I really liked Iron Claw. And I really liked, not Napoleon, last duel. I really liked that movie. Oh, Last Duel's awesome. That's like two years old at this point.

Starting point is 01:49:58 Is it really that old? Jesus. Yeah. Well, I saw it on a plane this year. Okay. What's worse? I really, really didn't like Longlegs. It really was not.

Starting point is 01:50:07 I mean, I don't think it's for you. I don't think. That's the type of art that connects with you. No. Correct. I think you have a very... I'm a literal guy. I need...

Starting point is 01:50:16 How does this work? How does that happen? Yeah, which like that, I don't agree there aside from endings to an extent. But what's funny about Long Island is like a lot of people's problem with it is the mom's exposition of exactly what happens. Yeah, but like that only led to more questions for me. Like, what do you mean? Oh, that's all out there. You didn't notice he was in the basement.

Starting point is 01:50:39 daughter this whole time she's never been there she'd never been to the house she grew up she no well she the the the the the so lot of the stuff was like they explained that uh they purpose purposely like manipulated her to forget those memories oh okay so fair that's in there fair that is in there i'm 100% i i don't like a movie that's like well this happened because we said it did whereas silence of the lambs there's no Well, that's not,

Starting point is 01:51:09 there's nothing supernatural about Sonsalant. Okay. Okay. If that's the distinction, then yeah, I just think.

Starting point is 01:51:14 That is an actual, it's like an actual crime, whereas Long Legs is a supernatural crime. I'm not going to sit here and be like, you have to like it because I understand it. Our film is subjective. Aspects. Aspects of it that I definitely liked.

Starting point is 01:51:27 Oh, yeah. All the like satanic rock stuff is, lots of stuff. I thoroughly loved it. Yeah. Sure. Best movie I've seen recently is a horror movie called Audity.

Starting point is 01:51:36 It's an Irish horror movie. It will be on, it is now on shutter as of, as of day of recording, so I highly recommend you watch that. Worst movie I've seen recently. Let me check the old boxed. Yeah, good call. I don't do under three stars anymore. Why is that? It just feels disrespectful, you know.

Starting point is 01:51:57 Did you see the crow? Oh, it's, no, I will not, I will not do that. I will not contribute to that movie making a dollar. It's the Strangers chapter one. Ah, yeah. But, you know, movies are tough. Making them is hard. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:52:14 I respect the effort. True. Oh, Bovers' Colin in Wii Sports, who's winning? Which game? Let's say bowling. Bowling, I feel like your muscle memory will take over. I think I'm whooping your ass. But if we're doing golf, I got you.

Starting point is 01:52:32 Yeah, I think so. I love Wii golf. Tennis. Oh, I got real good at Wheathing. Did you? That fuck. And boxing sucks. Boxing is, yes, no good.

Starting point is 01:52:45 The baseball one was just okay. It was okay. I loved the golf. 197 episode where Colin and Bo do the editing and Stephen takes a break. There were about a hundred and... I was just going to say. Something of those. But thank you, Stephen.

Starting point is 01:52:58 I will say this. If you watch the Furnace Fest episode, that's the only one where you edited while we were like on Zoom. It's the only one where I was like... Oh, yeah. That was nice. I was kind of there. That was nice. The only one.

Starting point is 01:53:09 It was like an eight-hour Zoom call. God bless you. Are there souvenirs you keep from every tour? Oh, Laminate. Ah, yeah. I started throwing those way. The souvenir I keep from every tour is the jacket I inevitably buy at a cool men's wear store in that city, such as guilty party in Atlanta.

Starting point is 01:53:30 Never been. One thing that sucks is a lot of fests that you would get laminette. from are now doing the wristbands with the scan thing. And those don't feel as cool to save. Yeah, I'm not keeping that. I'm not. I never do. No.

Starting point is 01:53:46 But the laminists are just taking off space. So I just, I got room. Horror movie that genuinely scared you the most. Like you were, I know yours. It's Blair Witch Project or Event Horizon. That's more sci-fi. But Event Horizon really fucked me up. That was too young, dude.

Starting point is 01:54:04 What were you scared of? hell having my face like impaled with maggots and stuff the the security videos and then Sam Neal without eyes and shit yeah fuck me up but yeah Blair Witch ruined me I think watching The Exorcist at six

Starting point is 01:54:25 Both scarred me and was like oh this is the this is the feeling I need for oh I remember I watched Psycho when I was too young and that really scared me. Scary.

Starting point is 01:54:39 Probably around seven. Around then. What animal is the hardest? Tough to beat a rhino. Rino, bear, gorilla. Yeah, dude, guerrilla's hard as shit. Because even if it's not like beating a bear or whatever they say.

Starting point is 01:54:56 Yeah, yeah. Which I do think a bear is kind of the number one answer. I just don't think a bear is as cool as a gorilla. I agree. You know? I agree. guerrilla has swag

Starting point is 01:55:08 Gorillas can get out of a fight and do this they can go and it's just like who man you know and I can fucking like

Starting point is 01:55:18 gorillas like wipe their nose and it's like dude if I if I like do the Job chicken dance to a bear

Starting point is 01:55:25 it might run away totally yeah whereas a gorilla would fold me like an accordion yeah do you want to go

Starting point is 01:55:31 it would be like ooh yeah it would start doing it with me yeah uh Bo, is this Chicagoing?

Starting point is 01:55:37 Yes, sir. What is the quintessential Chicago food? In, I mean, for me, I think pizza exists kind of everywhere, and there are places that are way more known for the pizza. We have a specific kind of kind of ubiquitous. There's one in every state that they have their own. For me, it's the Italian beef sandwich. And my God, what an item you've got there. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:56:03 I think about it. God damn near every day. Right. I watched Rocky have his first bite of one today. What do you think? Loved it. It's beautiful. Good.

Starting point is 01:56:13 Ooh. What classifies something as a condiment? I've seen this before. This is complicated. And I think, Bo, to answer this, you have to think about states of matter. Okay. Liquid, gas, solid. I'm ready?

Starting point is 01:56:29 Toppings are solid. You can define a topping as a solid. A condiment, I would say, would have to be non-Newtonian. which is both liquid and solid. Right. So a condiment to me can be defined as a non-Newtonian topping. I love that. That's a perfectly reasonable answer.

Starting point is 01:56:50 Thank you. It's kind of anything that can squirt versus anything that can't. Another definition for non-Newtonian would be anything that can squirt. How do you define a sandwich and is a hot dog a sandwich? I just think that's, it's like I think, I think, a hot dog's a hot dog. You know, I think at some point, like, we're not monkey, you know? Very good. Yeah, it's a discussion of, it's semantics. That's all it is. Chicken egg. Yeah. The chicken's here. Yeah. You know, I'm not worried about the egg anymore. Yeah. Monkey, Colin.

Starting point is 01:57:24 Monkey's still here. Yeah. But Colin, new monkey. What is your favorite headphone right now? Mine is the Sonos Ace. Oh, yeah. You're liking them? I'm loving them. I'm loving them. How often would you say you use them? They're so inexpensive. I mean, it's still a $450, the $450 headphone, which is a lot, you know. But the AirPods max is $5.50 or something, $600. Exactly. And they're five fucking pounds.

Starting point is 01:57:55 Weigh your head down. And I think the Sonos A sounds better, has better EQ options. Mm-hmm. And the battery lasts 500 times longer. I cannot stand the AirPod Max case thing. The bra? The bra. It's horrible.

Starting point is 01:58:14 And the fact that there isn't some kind of like better travel mode for them. And there's no fucking power button. And they're like, no, it's smart. You don't need a power button. Okay, the battery lasts five fucking hours. Yeah, like what do you talk about? So yeah, I guess you won't have turn them off because they're going to turn, die before I can turn them off. Yeah, that's bad.

Starting point is 01:58:32 And I heard version two, they're not really changing that. They didn't change shit. they just did USBC. Yeah. Is that really and then probably internal shit? Some,

Starting point is 01:58:40 yeah, something and some of the chip or something. Stupid. Hors shit. Wormant. Horrible. Uh,

Starting point is 01:58:47 are you more of a honk shoe, honk shoe or a honk, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. I'm a honk, honk. I'm more of a, ah!

Starting point is 01:58:55 Yeah. Yeah. Dude, what time? Twelve plus years ago. I, at, at an ex-girlfriend

Starting point is 01:59:07 friends, I like rolled over in my sleep. I accidentally elbowed her right in the nose, possibly broke her nose. She was bleeding, but I was in my sleep. She was crying, but she knew what happened. She was, I know, I felt awful, but in my sleep, this is not Bo. This is, this is monkey. I rolled over and her crying woke me up. And in my sleep or in my sleepy state, I went, I already said, I'm sorry.

Starting point is 01:59:33 And went back to bed. It got to the point where the next day she didn't, she was fine. but she definitely didn't break her nose but she could have, for all she knew at the moment, she was laughing about it. She realized how funny that was, but yeah, when I'm in my sleep,

Starting point is 01:59:47 I'm just... Oh, I'm actually kind of a scary sleeper. Same, as am I, yeah. I sleep with my legs in the air a lot. Like, like this? Like, so I'll cross them. Yeah, yeah. And sleep like this.

Starting point is 02:00:01 Dude, that's what Taylor does. And a lot of the time I fall asleep with my arms in the air. Now that's fucked up. Like in my sleep, my arms go in the air and eventually they come down, you know? They ever get her? Yeah, I get her. So, but I've trained myself to like... Tuck.

Starting point is 02:00:19 Kind of be in my own island. Yeah. But it's no good. Yeah, I'm all night and then every once while screaming because some dream wakes me up or something. It's great. It's really good. Healthy. What band in terms of past members is the most run-through band?

Starting point is 02:00:36 How many different members has a single band gone through in which band is it? Shy Hulud. Still to this day, somebody said, why did you kick Bo in the head and how did he recover so quickly? Didn't kick him. I'm just built different, you know? Professor Bo was Atlantis a real place? From what we know, like geographically no, from like Plato, possibly. There is a place that it could be and it's in the Middle East.

Starting point is 02:01:06 probably there's probably something that it's based on I don't think anything has ever just invented out of nowhere I really don't but yeah

Starting point is 02:01:15 it was either Plato or Socrates wrote about it and they wrote about this specific layout of the city and then this layout was found

Starting point is 02:01:22 like it's a very specific Atlantis was like island water ring of land water ring of land water it was like concentric rings that was the center

Starting point is 02:01:34 and then great ancient statues yeah and shit like that, yeah. That's pretty cool. We should go find it. Should we find it? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:01:45 Hauntler, Atlantis. Okay, last question. If you could build the perfect three-course meal, app, entree dessert, what would it be? It's a great question. Let's each go, like, per round. So what's your app? App would be like a steak tartar, I think. Oh.

Starting point is 02:02:04 That's a perfect starter. That's wonderful. I'm going to go kind of boring little light but a really well-made brusetta with like really fresh pita tangy balsamic

Starting point is 02:02:18 fresh grated parm basil something bright to really open it up I love a brusetta me too entree is the hard part entree is tough what fits with steak tartar

Starting point is 02:02:34 perfectly you know my perfect meal Like a like something like an like an elevated Detroit style pizza Like something like quarter sheets does here Okay You know wow yeah Or it's just like oh this is perfect Just a really good

Starting point is 02:02:52 Just a perfect slice of like elevated pizza You know lovely I would do um Like a seafood alfredo Scalips and shrimp Wow on like a non-runny, like a well-made more cheese than cream. Alfredo sauce with linguine.

Starting point is 02:03:14 Lemon. Wow. Chives. Okay. I think after the brushtana, that would be really nice. We're killing, dude. How about dessert? Well, I'm already, I'm in Italy.

Starting point is 02:03:27 So I am kind of on the tour of Italy. So I do feel like a good taramisu. No. Could really fucking go. Dude, I've been getting tiramisu. stuff fed to me in reels lately? My reels are all tiramisu. Tiramu-sue brownies?

Starting point is 02:03:41 Can you believe that concept? No. Like where, how does it work? Dude, I think they bake brown. The bottom layer is brownie and then it's Tiramu atop. God, dude. Yes. So your answer's Tiramu?

Starting point is 02:03:54 Yeah, I think so. But a big, huge slice. All right, well, you're going to be pissed because my answer is a creme brulee crepe. Damn it. That's a perfect answer. That's perfect, me. Oh, man. There we go.

Starting point is 02:04:12 And that is the conclusion of this very special fall 2024 Q&A episode. Thank you all so much. What a year. It's been. We got a couple months left. Yeah. Please come to the rest of these hate reach shows. Say hello if you see me.

Starting point is 02:04:29 And bring me a snack. Absolutely. I think the Twitchford show is next week now. Wow. So if there's tickets still available, pick one of those up. I'll probably put something in the beginning of this episode, too. Sorry. We hope to see you there.

Starting point is 02:04:45 And we'll see you next week with Hauntler at the Queen Mary. Bye. Bye.

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