HardLore - One Year Anniversary Special Q&A

Episode Date: April 20, 2023

Celebrate HardLore's first birthday with this very special One Year Anniversary episode! In this 2+ our lore-filled Q&A, see special HardLore birthday messages from friends of the show before Colin a...nd Bo reflect on the first year of HardLore and answer YOUR questions from Twitter, Instagram, and the HardLore Discord. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef This episode is brought to you by ATHLETIC GREENS! Try AG1 at athleticgreens.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1. Join WHATNOT with our special little link to get $15 off your first purchase. Get ready for the first ever Hardlore live auction TOMORROW, March 24th at 8:30 PM EST: https://www.whatnot.com/invite/hardlore Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe Check out our merch at https://knotfest.com/store/?view=hard... Find all of our videos at https://knot1.co/3vWXsbx #HardLore   HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER   For sponsorship opportunities, email us! info@hardlorepod.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:20 And now some special anniversary messages from Friends of the Show. Happy birthday hardlore podcast. Always an enjoyable listen, except for the little fact that Bo is not actually from Chicago. He's from the suburbs. In fact, his nickname in high school is the suburban Bonando. I don't know what it's like to grow up in Winnetka. Super rich kids. Anyway, happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Congratulations, Harle. on the one-year anniversary. It's awesome to see one of the greatest tag teams in hardcore history represented on that platform. And of course, I mean myself and Colin Young, f*** you, Bo, number one in the middle of bow, each shit, bye.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Hey, what's up, everybody? I just want to wish Hardlore a happy one-year anniversary. I want to say my biggest critique, is this show about fucking fast food or is it about fucking music? Jesus Christ. Happy one year to Hardlore. up to Bo, who didn't take me to get pizza in Chicago when I was there and calling through through a
Starting point is 00:01:23 tornado to get me pizza. Happy birthday. Happy one year anniversary to the Hard Lord podcast. Thank you guys for some good laughs, some good stories, some good guests. We need more dying breed talk. We need acknowledgement of zero tolerance. We need acknowledgement of war zone. Jordan, the fucking GOD. He is here with us. Happy one year, boys. And we will, uh, Listen, we'll be listening to more soon. What, what's this for? One year? Both f***s fish.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Alec, one year of hard lore. So, uh, what do you think of the show? I love the show. Just wait till I finish the question. So, Alec, one year of hard lore. Where do you think of the show? I love the show. Hey, this is Lars Berdrickson from all kinds of bands.
Starting point is 00:02:18 And I want to wish, uh, Hardlora, a very happy anniversary. I don't know what the anniversary's for. I was just told to do this by Colin. And obviously, he also told me to talk shit about Bo. But the only Bobo I know is the guy from a veil. So unless this bow that you have, Colin, dances, I could give two f***ks. So either way, happy anniversary for, I don't know how many years. I'm just following orders later.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Hello, welcome. Happy birthday to Hardlore from Hardlore. It's Hardlore time. What do we not? We got us. We got hardball. One year, Bo. How are you?
Starting point is 00:02:58 I'm doing really well. Made in a little, little keto cheesecake thanks to factor foods. Not sponsored, just checking it out. This is a nothing bun cake. My wife got me to celebrate. It's for 14 people. About halfway done. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Big nothing bun cake's guy. What flavor is that? Confetti. Confetti. Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you. apologies to the listeners with mesophonia.
Starting point is 00:03:30 What a year it's been, huh? How about it? I can't believe it. I was thinking, is this the 51st episode? I guess. I think it is because I believe we missed one. So it actually checks out. Like if you do the math, it's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:48 That out of a year we missed one. Yeah, we did good. I am so tired. I'm tired of you. I'm tired of sleep. No, but more so, do you feel fulfilled? Do you feel fulfilled from this show? I'm going through a weird transitional period.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Am I like, yes, sir, I do. But yeah, are you kidding? It's amazing. I walked outside of my apartment today. There's construction on the street. There's a crane on the street. Somebody slapped a hard lured bumper sticker on it. I swear on my cats, it wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:04:28 On your own street. So it's either one of my friends, which is kind of unlikely or just a pure coincidence. Your friends are not doing that. They don't. Yeah, exactly. They didn't buy the box. They're not that supportive. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:41 It's crazy. You know, there's like, there's like landmark moments. There's, there's trackable moments in a, in a young man or woman's life. It's like, okay, this is, this happened, therefore this is happening to me. Yeah. You know? Like, I heard. I heard Grimlock, therefore I like hardcore.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I play hardcore. I watch Star Wars, therefore I like movies. This is like one of those. This show is one of those things for both of us, you know? Explain. We're no longer guy from band. Oh, yeah. Most places I go now, somebody wants to talk about something that I do.
Starting point is 00:05:29 It's this. Yeah. So I'm a creative fraud, but an incredible entertainer. Welcome to the club, brother. Great to have you. Creatively bankrupt, comedically brilliant, you know? Morally depraved. No, I'm morals.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I'm straight. You know? Yeah. Moral's good. Yeah. I don't know. It's weird. Are you happy?
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah. Yeah, I'm happy. I'm a little bored. I'm just bored I got nothing to do because you don't have a job I don't know the job I go to the gym
Starting point is 00:06:10 You want to start helping me more With the show How often? You son of a bitch That was so dirty You asked me Probably three times a week Like please
Starting point is 00:06:20 Like what do I do And it's just there's no There's no There's little Everything that I have to do For the show Are things I literally can't delegate You know
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah I know I can't I can't believe you just did that to me. Live. They know it's a joke, right? I would like to know some of your highlights. Hot lore is
Starting point is 00:06:47 one of the great joys of my life. The Furness Fass to Hauntler. Yeah. And then the recap episode, which I told you I watched like the second half of the other night, is like so fun. Yeah, it's a, that's a life.
Starting point is 00:07:04 That's another life milestone. It's like, oh, I'm a ghost hunter. I am. I do that now. I did it once, therefore I am one. Yeah. I hope that one day that's all we're doing. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Haunting and loring. Yeah. With friends. Yeah, absolutely. Just bringing up a pal, a Brittany Miller with us, you know, of sorts, into a haunted place. With a, with a corn dog. With a corn, or two.
Starting point is 00:07:30 or yeah um that was cool i remember um because the first thing we did in person was sound and fury and that seemed sort of like oh well this makes sense yeah because it's sound infuri it's like purely a hardcore thing we knew ever i mean i didn't there was no work that needed to be done in terms of like wrangling bands for yeah yeah because it was just texting a guy yeah or something and then furnace fest was like the next thing and it was very like well this is a little outside of our wheelhouse And then it was like, oh, hey, we can kind of try to make content. However. Just doing whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Now, the mini interviews give me the most stress of like anything. Really? Yeah. I wish I could do that. Really? Yeah. If I could, I swear to God, I would. However, I will say that everything that you do,
Starting point is 00:08:27 you're digging a deeper hole because it becomes the style of, of like kind of our branding. You know what I mean? Yeah. So you're just going to. It sucks, dude. It's so much work. It takes so long.
Starting point is 00:08:41 A video editor that had to, like if we hired a video editor that wasn't me, they would be rich with what it fucking cost. Like the hourly rate, if somebody was getting an hourly rate to do what I'm doing, they'd be living next door to Jerry Seinfeld or something. So the people know. How long does a two-hour episode generally take?
Starting point is 00:09:04 It takes probably 16 hours. For one episode? Yeah. Really? I genuinely didn't know that. Compiling, mixing audio, editing, exporting, exporting, which can take like six hours on its own. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And I have to just stand by and make sure my computer doesn't fucking shut off. and then going back in to make a clip and then like a clip or two the next day that's that's a whole that's an entirely separate task the real that you see is like the hardest part of doing the show because it's like I got a
Starting point is 00:09:44 I have to I have to pick out of two hours of three hours of stuff 60 seconds that's going to sell motherfuckers on this whole damn show I I hope you end this with a gun loaded. Whatever sentence this is starting.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I basically work two hours a week. And I sleep until about 11 at the gym, cooked food, play video games. And that's how the show is made. So highlights, ups and down. Yeah, I think the justice. episode. No, you know what? Fast food? The Great Food debate?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Oh, that was kind of when we were like, wait. That was the one where we started showing that to be able to be like, here's what we figured out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we were we hit our stride. Yeah, just this episode was two hours of like Stern at Howard Stern-esque audio programming
Starting point is 00:10:48 that just never lulled or stopped. That was when a lot of people checked out the show, I think. do you have a favorite like a number one besides hongler like one favorite episode yeah let's let's keep it to a guest
Starting point is 00:11:04 because like the recaps are too easy to say oh the guests yeah I think um I really liked jay mind force jay mind force episode was it felt like just kind of having a third host yeah yeah he was so such a natural
Starting point is 00:11:22 because he was so familiar with the show it really lent itself to just making the show better instead of us having to like explain the bits and the segments and the stuff, you just knew. That's a great episode. Maddie is our biggest episode now. That was personally very big for me. It was very fun.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And then of course, Justin. Come on, dude. That one is, that's the one. I'm still getting texts about the one, that one, you know? Really? Like people like peripherally in my life being like, just checked out the Jostal one. That was sick.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And I think it was sick. I think it was. I learned a lot. So I can only imagine how other people felt. And we barely got through two records. Dude. It took 45 minutes to get down to the knife. That was.
Starting point is 00:12:14 That's the crazy thing. It was amazing. The man is dense with facts and knowledge and dates and lineups. Yeah. And you, so we went to the Discord today for questions, right? Which is a new thing for us. Oh, also, we have a funny little ad to do.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I'm going to do this aside from the ad section. Okay. There's a tour right now that just got announced. What are we got? With death clock and baby metal. Oh, you dude. Fuck yeah. And tickets are on sale now.
Starting point is 00:12:41 They want us, they want us to let you know the tickets for the death clock baby metal tour are on sale now. No kidding. You ever hear that Gimme Chocolate song? A lemon chocolate, chocolate. I don't know what she's saying, but I've never agreed with anything more. Do you know the song Karate? Because that song's actually like heavy. Yeah, I like the chocolate one much more.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I think that's their master killer person. You know, is the Gimme Chocolate song. Yeah, that's fun. Huh? Yeah, so they want us to tell you tickets are on sale now. Anyway, we ask people for questions as well as their favorite moments of the show. So hopefully most people provided that along with their questions. You want to start with the, with you, should we, are we kicking off Q&A?
Starting point is 00:13:29 What are your, what are your favorite moments from the show? Honestly, it's a lot of this shit that we don't really film, but just like the, the, you know, being able to, like, go with a friend and do stuff that's, like, doing well is pretty awesome. Pretty life-changing kind of a thing, you know? Just think, like, like, simple things, like flying and getting a hotel. Yeah. As a band is so expensive and stressful. So stressful. And we just don't have to worry about it.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And it's like fun. It's still exciting. I'm not getting sick anymore. But every time I say that, do you know that viral dude or the guy's like, I'm not gay no more? Of course. I was,
Starting point is 00:14:18 what does he say? I'm delivered. I am delivered. I feel like I need to cut that in every time I say. I'm not sick no more. I'm not sick no more. I want no more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:29 So it's just been like really easy and fun. LDB was a lot of fun. Highlights definitely. Dude, I think the single coolest moment was hauntler, the very first one when the dude recognized us, like candidly. Oh yeah, that was. Because that was, we were getting like
Starting point is 00:14:52 a thousand a week at that point. Yeah, that was nothing. That was super early on. so that was nice that was the first time where I was like me? That was really fun yeah that was really fun and just uh I don't know
Starting point is 00:15:06 it's been everybody's been so nice yeah I read all that I can change that I mean I can be meaner they know one thing I need to say is people some people don't understand that the Brody thing
Starting point is 00:15:25 is a bit Brody I gotta say something about that Listen I get to be mean to Bo Brody gets to be mean to Boe 8 to 12 other people Get to be mean to Bo
Starting point is 00:15:41 You motherfuckers Don't you lay a finger on him emotionally We're coming for you okay He's our target He's your hero Okay People yeah there's definitely some confusion I think This is not a communal bit
Starting point is 00:15:57 It's ours. It's our pit. You leave this man alone. Roast me if you must, John, you fucking fuck and fuck. But leave Boa alone, basically. That's what I'm saying. But overall, like, very little criticisms.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Some of the, some of the, like, criticism I've ever seen is, like, us not being able to tell full stories and have to, like, neuter stories. And it's like, yeah. Yeah, I don't want to get killed. Sorry. I don't want to get beat up because,
Starting point is 00:16:25 because, like, told some story. You can't connect them. fucking dots to, you weirdo. Or get somebody in legal jeopardy. Yeah, it's just crazy. They're like, can we, can we pay extra for the unbleeped version?
Starting point is 00:16:38 No, it's illegal. Let's do some, some Cues and A's. All right. Here's a really good one. Let's get to the meat of the episode. Why? So funny. That's a great question. Shout out to our buddy Andrew Morrissey, who
Starting point is 00:16:53 I guess, I mean, I'm not going through and finding fucking clips of the whole show. I won't do it. No. No. I won't do it, but there's a story we told very early on. Why don't you take it away, Bo? We were in Detroit, Michigan. It was a cold
Starting point is 00:17:09 night, and there was a manhole cover that was just pour in steam. Ninja turtles level steep. And Dark Knight had just come out within like the past two years maybe. Andrew Rand jumped in front of it.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Jumped into the steam. and said, first he said, hey guys, look, and then, you know, jumped into the steam. Who am I? Yeah, and then, why so funny? And it was, he didn't. And other famous Andrew misquotes include ordering in and out monster style, diving into a pool and saying, I'm James Bourne. And so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I got to get, I got to get Emily to start making us like a list of. Yeah, we need a list. I'm sure they happen every day. And when he does one now, he knows and he looks and he goes, don't. Don't. Don't. Okay. First actual question.
Starting point is 00:18:09 This is definitely for you. And I think it's a great question. Can you be too naughty in the pit? Like, yeah. I knew, yeah, of course. Like if you're purposely, I've never been to. But like if you're purposefully, okay, I have two, we've said this before, but I have two actual qualms with
Starting point is 00:18:33 anything. It can be like being on stage with your phone. I know throwing shit, whatever. If you're making the show about you yeah, not audience, but singularly you because I'll look how crazy I am. Yeah. Like get fucked. Like that sucks. That's just
Starting point is 00:18:50 stupid. Obviously people would mash with machetes and shit. Like that's happened. Yeah. That's too naughty. We played the tower. You ever played the tower outside of Cleveland? Probably. believe it was Cleveland, not Columbus, but it was definitely in Ohio. I think it's Cleveland. And there was like a mattress, part of the wall and fireworks and marbles on the floor.
Starting point is 00:19:12 That's fun. Yeah. Like that's fun. And it was the entire room just being rowdy. So it was agreed upon. It was agreed upon. It was like the way that that place went for sure. Totally cool.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I'm beyond cool with that. I would say I am begging for it. Yeah. Yeah. But if you're purposefully like, I don't know. You know. No, other than, other than like a weapon that would kill a guy or girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:45 No. I mean, there was a riot extravaganza that was stopped because it was certainly too naughty. That was pretty crazy. I was watching that. you know so even even from a band standpoint of like go nuts not that nuts it's like kind of the vibe um so it's certainly possible i think as long as people it's moshing you know i don't think moshing actual moshing can be too naughty okay that's my stance okay so once you cease the moshing the dancing you know and you're doing something else maybe
Starting point is 00:20:30 Do you have opinions on the term or act of crowd killing? I think it's awesome. One of the best things. Period. If there's a part that makes someone turn around and just start swinging fists at people. Yeah. It's a good part.
Starting point is 00:20:50 It's a great part. It's a testament to the part more so than anything. I mean, think about that iconic picture of sob, spinning, spin kicking a dude in the face. Well, yeah, would that be cooler if there was no guy there to receive the foot to the face? Definitely not. Be a less cool picture.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Be a way less cool. It is what it is, man. And it is cool. When are you guys touring the UK, ambiguous question, I don't know. Who's you guys? Yeah, exactly. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Let's see. Somebody make me an office. Yeah, seriously. You make us, you get us there? I'm going to come. Straight out. Spink in a graveyard is a top moment. Also, now you know, I don't,
Starting point is 00:21:36 he typed it kind of crazy. You know I don't touch my penis when I pee as a highlight. Yes. How do you do long division? Colin? Oh, long? Long, baby.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Couldn't tell you. Really? Which one is long division? Long division is just when you do it, when you just, oh. 785 divided by 14. Oh, I would divide it by 10 first and then.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Oh, really? I'm divided by four, you know. That adds up for sure. When Collins said soda is the best part of the meal, dude's a genius. Yeah, yeah. That's a long, yeah. Yeah, I mean, everybody should just kind of eat this band's in no hail in it. Is that Dr. Pepper or Coke Zero?
Starting point is 00:22:22 That's a Dr. Pepper zero. I mean, like eating without. It's a carbonated beverage. Painful. It's so fucking miserable. It's suffering. Oh, you want to know something? Oh, do I have a tragedy for you?
Starting point is 00:22:39 Went to a Taco Bell yesterday in the drive-thru. There's a natural fry sign out of natural fries. Which is just kind of like, all right, but you go months without them. So whatever. Yeah. I mean, the demand was probably high. So you're like, oh, good for you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:55 That means. And then I ordered my food, got to the pop. No Baja. Yeah. No Baja zero. No diet. No diet do is what? What is there left?
Starting point is 00:23:07 Mountain Dew. Did you do that? I had diesel. You had heavy dew? Dude. That's ice cream. What else is there? That's dessert.
Starting point is 00:23:19 What else do they have? Oh my God. I would rather drink a diet Pepsi. The full Mountain Dew. Dude, if you look at the carbs on, I'm telling you, I say this. as a joke all the time, but like a bowl of spaghetti and a mountain dew about the same. Should we check?
Starting point is 00:23:36 I don't know how we would do that, Matt. Well, 20 ounce mountain dew carbs is 78 grams. Yes. Of net carbs. And what's a bowl of spaghetti? Like a hundred. Serving size of spaghetti. What am I looking for?
Starting point is 00:23:57 Carbs, nutrition facts. Dude, one cup of serving a cooked spaghetti containing between 37, 43 grams. So it means two cups is a mountain dew. You thought I was joking. It's literally a bowl of spaghetti is drinking a mountain dew. And you had the large, which is like 32 hours. You know I had a large. I had.
Starting point is 00:24:17 So you had a what's called a heaping bowl of spaghetti. I really did. I had the family size for me. So don't. This is. And, you know, people ask me for weight loss tips and shit all the time. just stop drinking full sugar soda and you can basically do anything else in your life.
Starting point is 00:24:36 That's that is the only line I won't cross. Tie from the show. I've seen you cross it. When? I've seen you have regular. No, you have not. Okay. I'm going to remember this moment.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I don't have it cataloged, but I, you, you, I'm telling you, I haven't had a regular soda on purpose in six years. Okay. Ty told me that you like change, Thai, I front of the show, told me that you like changed his outlook on life when you said,
Starting point is 00:25:10 I'll work as hard as I have to in the gym so that I can eat whatever I want. Absolutely. That's a beautiful. Which is like, like if you tell a personal trainer of that, they'll be like, I can't have you as a client.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah, it's the opposite of what you. You'll be fired. You'll be reversed hired as a, they'll say I don't want your money. I quit as your employer. because like lifting to eat is like the worst thing you can do. But once you get to the maintenance mode, who cares?
Starting point is 00:25:41 And once you stop giving a fuck about, I'm not competing in competitions. I just want to feel good and have a fun life. Just want to feel good, look good, eat good. Fun life. Balance. This is a funny one because I FaceTime to you about this today. And I swear on my cats, I did not. read this. When are we getting
Starting point is 00:26:01 a live play through of the Hardlore theme? We almost did it today. We almost did it to intro the episode. Yeah, we did. I think we finished the song. Yeah. Finish a full song, have some cool guest vocals. Do a two minutes to the late night thing. Do a full on thing and then and then we can just play. Yeah. What fest do you guys most want to do interviews at next?
Starting point is 00:26:29 Japan. Oh yeah, yeah. like that's like a Godzilla Fest in Japan probably I mean blood acts would be amazing like any Blacks would be good any actual thing Bo crap programming his echo to call Colin a bastard man still kills me they'll still do it it's just not hooked up right now
Starting point is 00:26:45 but it's it also worked about 40% of the time yeah awful I'm a terrible programmer oh this is a great question from Dwayne at sundown very active in the Discord server What does making it, quote unquote, making it in the music scene mean to you guys, he's shoveling a bump cake into his hole right now. It was literal pile.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Making it? Yeah. What does making it mean? I have a rather serious answer for that. Beautiful. Man, this is a tough one. It was a heavy one. I got a message on Facebook like 10 years ago probably, maybe nine.
Starting point is 00:27:36 because in love there's no law was out. And it was from like an EMT driver who said that somebody who was gay tried to kill themselves. Like after coming out to their parents. Yeah. And like during the EMT ride, bonded with them by showing them in love there's no law.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And like that was enough for them to like have a conversation and then like they were totally fine. and like that was that was i don't know i can't i'll just cry if i start talking too much so like i don't want to um but that was the moment where i was like i think i did something here you know wow like a song that in my mind is like okay this is a this is a song yeah i'm writing a song i'm not going i'm not fucking going to change the world with a hardcore song you know but i if i i it affected one person in a way that was like, I'm not going to say life saving,
Starting point is 00:28:40 because obviously that didn't happen, but like positively in a dark moment for them. Wow. And that was where it was like, I could never write music again and be fine after just reading that. That's a beautiful story. Excellent answer.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Thank you. Mine was like, I don't have to worry about bills, which hasn't happened yet. Yeah, that's impossible. Simply one. There's like eight bands that can do that amongst our peers. And your boy loves to shop. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah, absolutely. I just can't stop. Well, you got a good credit card? I'm about to get a good credit card. I know, I know you got a real nice one. I have the Amazon one, which. Amazon one is pretty good.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I wish the points were better, you know? Yeah, I know. I don't know. Sometimes I get enough points to pay the fucking Amazon Prime. Yeah, the monthly membership. I just got, I got an MX, MX gold. Which is not, you don't have to like do anything crazy to qualify for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:51 But this is my first real card with points. Like real points. Oh, okay. 4X for restaurants, dude. I'm at a restaurant two, three times a day. Got so many points. you wouldn't believe it. The amount of points I've accrued in two weeks
Starting point is 00:30:09 rivals my McDonald's app. No. I could probably book a flight to Japan for free from the points I've made in two weeks of having this credit card. Yeah, the Amazon one is like my go-to and then I have a Chase Sapphire is like my...
Starting point is 00:30:31 I got a Sapphire too. I never got you. You know what? The sign-up reward is so crazy. And also you used to get into the like lounge, like the United Lounge or American Lounge or something at airports. With Sapphire? Yeah, used to. Not anymore. Oh, you know anymore? I don't believe so.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Because American made their own those fucking cheap bastards. Who has the better biceps, Bo or Colin? I will tell you one thing. Come on. What? That picture I took of you in Louisville. Gambling? Dude.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Your arm looks insane in that picture. I was getting a crazy pump from hitting the button. And that's what, that's all it was. It was, it was, it was a smoke and mirrors. But the answer's obvious. It's bow. I've been fucking, I'm huge now. You're in the gym.
Starting point is 00:31:16 What's your, what's your, uh, what's your, uh, what's your routine? What's your split like? Um, Mondays are. So today was dead, like deadlifts. So back. Wow. Did you just do deadlifts or did you do? I know I did deadlifts.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I know what's whole, but I don't know the answer. Like I don't know what mine is, but I know what that means. Um, so I did deadlifts and like, I think leg press and lat pull down. That pull down. And rose. Okay. James made me a very simple, very big. James, okay, James gave you pro.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Wednesdays are like triceps, um, hamstrings, I think. And then Fridays are biceps, shoulders. Whatever. The fun day. Shoulder day is my favorite. Oh, it's the best. You get that one vein going and you just, see, I don't have the vein.
Starting point is 00:32:12 You see if you can look at me, you'll see. It's because you drank a full sugar soda at seven and a half years ago. Honestly, sugar, there's like, if you drink, if you carb deprive and then have like a gnarly carb, you look fucking crazy. When I, when I was full on keto, I,
Starting point is 00:32:30 repulches have sounds going on right now. When I was full, full on keto and I would like have like a little, cheat meal the next day I looked so good. Yeah. It's a thing. You just like... And I have no vascularity whatsoever. Maybe it's because I'm like
Starting point is 00:32:47 body fat or whatever. Too fat to be there. Favorite moments, Bo realizing Phoenix is a food cheat code and still underselling. Does March of the pigs belong to the greatest breakdown list? What? I don't know what either of those things
Starting point is 00:33:03 mean. I'm sorry. Keep scrolling. Yeah, you lost me. Master killer of all movies. That's a great question. One? I mean, that's what Master Killer means, I guess. It's Silence of Lames. Really?
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yeah, it is. Think about it. I didn't know. I love the movie. I just didn't know you were a particular... And I'm being pretty objective here, I think. Script, performances, direction, cinematography. It looks pretty good.
Starting point is 00:33:34 It looks great for the era. The score is a little janky. The score is fine. but like it was one of the first to win like an Oscar in all of its categories or whatever oh okay you know I would probably say like the godfather or something that's a little kind of obvious um little what would you rather watch right now
Starting point is 00:34:00 the godfather or silence the land honestly the guy I just watched silence the land like two weeks ago okay we'll see yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah weeks ago you were like I'm gonna put silence the movie is incredible it's perfect do you have a favorite part the way, dude, the fake out when Clarice is actually at the house at the end. And the,
Starting point is 00:34:24 and the FBI's rating and when Crawford goes, Starling. And like, you realize what's going on. Dude, and then, oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Oh, was she a great, that person? I mean, that's the best part of them. She's just fucking, dude, she's true to Texas season four.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Oh, really. It's Jody. Woo. Okay. Damn. Dude, season two was such a letdown for me. I never, I never saw it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Yeah, don't. I skipped a three, but I heard it's good, so. It's not. It isn't. I'm going to like it to spite you, I think. I think you will too, but that's just because you're full of shit. That's just me. But at the end of the very first episode, I'm not going to spoil anything, but there's like a bit of an occult thing.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And you're like, here we go. Here we go, baby, we're back. And then it's just, like, never addressed. I saw Beau was afraid last night. Yeah, what'd you think? Oh, I saw what you thought. I think it rocks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:23 But I can, if somebody tells me it's the worst movie they've ever seen, you might. I would say, I could see that. I saw Redfield on Saturday. I saw that too. What did you think? I loved it. You loved it? Yeah, I had a great time.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Oh, man. I liked how 90 minutes it was, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like 89 sharp, dude. Exposition. It feels like a. Dude, why are parts of it like slapstick? Like Aquafino, there's a scene where Aquafino is like walking away in the hallway and turning
Starting point is 00:35:58 around. Yeah, she keeps turning around. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, it's like, it felt like airplane for a second. And then it goes back to being kind of self-serious. Kind of, yeah, yeah. Terrible movie. Oh, you hated it. Oh, it's awful. Incredible action. Nick Kay just kills it in every scene. It's a terrible movie. But I think it's a like self-aware kind of terrible. Yeah. Like can't be Cold classic
Starting point is 00:36:22 type terrible. Absolutely. Why would they not put that out in like October? I mean, that's ridiculous, of course.
Starting point is 00:36:30 There's a part towards the, I forget what it is, we'll get back on track but where he really lets a Nick Cage-ism out where he like, he says,
Starting point is 00:36:39 I think he's gonna say hell Satan and he goes like, hail! It's like, I fucking die, dude. I had a great time.
Starting point is 00:36:47 It was, I could have used, more violence and a little more Nick Cage and a little less like, I just care about my sister. Yeah. But I have blessed. Yeah, it was fun. I'm just going to come out and say it. I like Aquafina.
Starting point is 00:37:01 She was, dude, I thought she was very funny. I like her. Okay. Sue me. I think she's great. Sorry. Odds. CN Punk shows up as a guest. It's not zero. We might hear from him later
Starting point is 00:37:19 in this episode. Dream. You think I'm joking, but we'll see. Dream tour lineup with retired or past, retired slash past bands and modern band. So just like book a dream tour. Let's make it a four band tour. Like a tour I want to see. That you want to see that you're not on.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Can I use dead guys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Typo. Yep. Dying breed. Marauder Master Killer set under Dying Breed. For some reason. I didn't book.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I wasn't the agent. I'm just going. Yeah, yeah. He didn't promote. I didn't do it. Who's opening? A modern band has to open. Metallica.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Modern band. What modern band would fit on that, you know? I just told me. I have no idea. Something witchy. Like Ingrown. Ingrown can open. Oh, Ingrown.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah. Mine would be Metallica headlining. I love it. Typo is direct support. It's a good tour for sure. Dying B. Chaos AD era
Starting point is 00:38:48 Sepul Toro with everybody. Wow. Wow. Andreas, everybody. And opening the misfits. No modern man. No. Fuck them. They said modern band
Starting point is 00:39:00 in the question. No, it says, it said, oh, it did say it. It says Dream Tour lineup with retired slash past bands and modern bands. All right. So kick the fucking. misfits off. Misfits are off.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And put in grown off. Put in grown up. Dead body. Nice. I almost did a spit take as a bit and then I realize everything I own is in front of me. My life depends on these eight items here,
Starting point is 00:39:30 so I can't do a spit take ever, sadly. Worst band you've toured with, played a show with, or not power. I have a diplomatic answer for this. So if you want me to take it away, I will. Could you?
Starting point is 00:39:43 Yeah. So we did a tour with At the Gates The Haunted and Decapitated Decapitated. Decapitated the actual guys in the band and their sound guy
Starting point is 00:39:54 delightful. Super nice, very friendly, just what I was like very professional. They had a tour manager and a fill-in bass player whose names I don't remember whose bands I don't remember
Starting point is 00:40:12 like nothing. Perfect. Who were the... Some of the worst people I've ever encountered. The base player was just kind of like annoying, but he was like fine, but he was just like, oh, I got this eight string. Blah, like, just like, please shut up.
Starting point is 00:40:31 The TM for Decaptated was so... We had on our rider X amount of Red Bull. That's all we ever asked for. It's like Diet Coke Water Red Bull. Cheese its... Sugar-free Red Bull. water. It's the whole, any band I'm ever in, that's the whole rider. Like stage towels.
Starting point is 00:40:47 If you can't, please. Oh, that'd be great. That's a problem. I wouldn't go. I know better. You know? So, Chris, we were, we were in Texas, I think, and Chris was enjoying a Red Bull. And this guy was like, hey, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:03 that's for all of us. And the tour manager, the chick who had toured with Weird Al. Yeah. Was like up there with us. and you know what I got to do. I know you can hear it. You're turning the fucking... If you don't change this motherfucker's...
Starting point is 00:41:20 I got to... I'm just going to turn it off from him. I'm gonna have to kill you. I know, I understand. I was like, man, somebody's drilling or something. Anyway... Stop it. He was like, hey, that's for all of us.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And Chris, like, knew that it was ours. It was in our fridge. And Chris did, like, a very... He went, ah, I love Red Bull. Like, that's what... That was his response. Yeah. And the dude said something along the lines of like,
Starting point is 00:41:42 yeah, fucking churn. on it, man, and, like, walked out. And the, the TM, like, pulled out a knife. It was like, do you want me to kill him? Well, why wouldn't the TM? It's like a joke. Maybe. He was such a little fucking bitch baby.
Starting point is 00:41:55 That there'd be no point in even saying that. It didn't matter. Actually. Yeah, yeah. It just didn't match. She knew as long as she knows, what do we care, you know? Yeah. Just terrible.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Always, like, I could have been in Europe with, like, the worst band you've never heard of right now instead of this. It's like, like, Wolf Mother or something. Yeah. Yeah. It was like... Could have been in Brussels with Wolfmother right now. Yeah. Dude.
Starting point is 00:42:21 What was the question? Was it... I played a show with? Toured with. Or played a show with. Slash Encowered. Greg Bannick's spoken word is the worst band I've ever played to show with, for sure. Tored with?
Starting point is 00:42:40 We're very fortunate to be in a world where it's like, that's not really going to happen. No, we kind of go out of our way to tour with bands we want to tour with. Yeah. You know, I might be the worst man I've ever toured with. I might be that answer for somebody's people. I've toured that Twitchie Tongues band one time. Oh my God. So that's fine.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Greg Benick's spoken word. What's the next question? Next question. Favorite 2000s, Billboard Top 10 hit. 2000s. Yeah. When did Teenage Dream come up? 2010.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Really? Are you really this good? dates. Yes. With music. Do you, do you remember? The album, Teenage Dream was, was the album was 2010. I can promise that.
Starting point is 00:43:29 You were right on. Yeah. That took me one second. Are you good with like birthdays and anniversaries and stuff too? Oh, it's only applies. My mom's birthday is October 5th and my dad's is June 2nd. And I get this two and the five mixed up every time. I'm like, is it dad's birthday?
Starting point is 00:43:47 Is my mom's birthday? You know? Yeah. On June 5th every year, I'll have already wished my dad, happy birthday. I'll be like, don't miss it? Fuck. No. But 2000s, dude.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Bleeding love. Remember that one? Humming. Keep bleeding. Keep bleeding. I think it's Leona Lewis. Unwritten, dude. You know unwritten.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Sing it. Staring at the playing page before you. the dirty window. Let the sign of lovel Dude. You made me reach it. That's a fucking masterpiece. The number two song
Starting point is 00:44:30 of the year 2000, a little ditty called Smooth featuring Rob Thomas. That was 2000? That's one of the songs. You know, that song terrorized the Billboard charts, straight up for, to this day.
Starting point is 00:44:46 The airwaves, and you can't turn on a radio for an hour. You can't scan around without hearing smooth. Dude, the matchbox boys? Couple fucking tracks. Straight up. I don't you. I was old in down here.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I wish the way of your world. I didn't know that was 2000. That's crazy. Yeah, 2000. Number six, Destiny Child's say my name. I'm still going. I mean, dude, Umbrella, Rihanna umbrella goes fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:18 2000s, Britney Spears shit was good too. like, what was it, was toxic was in the 2000s, right? I mean, toxic is better than most songs in history. Do you want to hear something? You know the song's stronger? I'm stronger than yesterday.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yeah. Right. The, the little half-step key change is my loneliness ain't killing me. That's a throwback to my loneliness is killing me. Genius.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I know. That's the line. My loneliness and killing me. People don't realize. I guarantee you, comment below if you knew that about that song. That's like why it's so triumphant, you know?
Starting point is 00:46:02 It's amazing. Yeah. I mean, she, there's those, she has those all over the place throughout the discog. Really?
Starting point is 00:46:09 Some Swedish guy wrote some line for her that was like, this is the same as the line on your first album that I wrote for you. All the small things, number 40. ever clear number 54 which one is ever clear it was the song wonderful but i just remember like everything to everyone
Starting point is 00:46:29 or i will buy you a new house oh yeah that one's dog shit ever last now that's the good that's the god or sinner and the calder a sinner and the color uh yeah a couple tracks on this he does number 73 we forgot about dray wow all right how's that number 73 we'll keep keep moving along It's enough answers. Favorite band from every state, alphabetical order.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Fuck off. Okay, what are the states? Arkansas. Evanescence. Dude, finding out that evanescence was American, one of the most shocking moments in my whole life. I love the polyrhythm in Wake Me Up. Do you, do, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I think that part's awesome. Favorite casino. Do I have a favorite? Bellagio, the aria. Those are my two. Okay, those are those are my top too. Yeah. Mine's going to be the hard rock in Tampa.
Starting point is 00:47:52 The Caesars in Southern Indiana. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, I love Caesar Southern Indiana now. I didn't for a couple days. No, you surely did not. Bo, if you ran a choir boy style mod rig,
Starting point is 00:48:07 what would you use? What the fuck does that? Like for a hell does that mean? For guitar, for guitar shit. Probably something by Earthquaker could do it and like a striman. What the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:48:25 I got the money. Would you ever do a live performance of bands with interviews? What does that mean? you ever do live performances of bands with interviews? Like have them play on hard lore live. I guess. It says you have the connect with Taylor.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Do you know Taylor? Young? Oh, this is a great question from... I would do that. That's a good idea. That is a good idea, I guess. Like live on hard lore. Grab a here.
Starting point is 00:48:56 And then we talk to them after? Yeah, that's fun. Okay. What's your favorite album layout or booklet? Ooh. That's a good one. Dude, I got, I told, I showed you a picture, but I got that, the typo booklet. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Fucking amazing. It's so nice. Yeah. Um. I have a Danzig, too. I believe it's Lucifuge tape that folds out into a cross, but it's upside down because of the way it's orientated. And that's really fucking sick.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Can't be your own. I made some good ones. Layout. Anything with like a nice sparkly gold or silver from the, front you know like a shiny oh i remember um tryticon has really good layouts oh really they always do like they only do a thousand or so of like every single thing they like they it's like a 10 inch you know i hate 10 inches i know you do but it's like a 10 inch box set so it's very cool someone lost someone broke or just even yeah exactly question
Starting point is 00:50:12 Do you think the overwhelming positive reaction to knock loose set at Coachella leads to more hardcore adjacent acts at more traditional festivals? Yeah. Yeah. I think so. It's funny that like hardcore fests want to be Coachella and Coachella wants to be a hardcore fest. Wow. Like they want to have, I bet you fucking mind forces playing next year or some shit, you know? They're going to see the TikTok of the girl with the pink tights getting fucking wapped.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And they're going to be like, she gets it so hard. That's crazy. They're going to be like, we can eat that on our fest next year. I need sun hats flying. Yeah. Meanwhile, a lot of fests are like emphasizing non-harker bands, you know? Right. Yeah, it's a big spill.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah. I'm a firm, it's a cliche, but I'm a firm believer of Rising Tide raises all ships. It just does. Knock Luz has what is being considered. like an all-timer cocella set, not even just like an all-timer like
Starting point is 00:51:16 like a regular on all spectrums of music they're having one of the sets that people are talking about. Yeah. So then they're going to post your fucking band's demo a week later.
Starting point is 00:51:30 And now some plebe who just saw him at Coachella bought a fucking puka shell and now they follow Brian. They're going to be like, oh, I heard the new year your shitty demo. I love it.
Starting point is 00:51:41 You know. So you never know. It raises all the ships. This is a great one. Hit me. Favorite spelled with a U. So we got a sky. Favorite objectively bad movie.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Oh, that's a great question. I have one that is immediate for me. I have so many. Waterworld. Dude, water world was a hit. But did it? Yes. It has it.
Starting point is 00:52:12 So is an objectively a good movie? No, but it was, but it was, I don't think it was, I mean, it was such a hit. I saw it in the theaters, I remember. And you loved it, right? It had a, it had a show at Universal until like two years ago. Yeah, I saw it. And how awesome was it a few years ago. It was fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah, that means that it did pretty, did well enough to justify a show. While Wild West. You love Wild West? I think Wow, Wow. Now that's a bad movie. That it's fun. dude the fucking back and forth at Will Smith and Loveless give each other when they first see each other and it's like a racial joke versus a ability joke.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Yeah. Crazy. Hoo, it's crazy. Yeah. That movie is incredible. You know that's the guy who plays Lockhart in Harry Potter? Yeah. Gilderoy. He's a director.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah, well. He directed the first Thor movie. Do you know that? Oh, Jesus Christ, did he? Yeah. Kenneth Brana is his name. I think he might be a sir Kenneth Brunner. My apology.
Starting point is 00:53:15 He's no joke, dude. He's like a, he's been knighted. Mine would be moral combat annihilation. Yeah. Sick movie. Terrible. That part is so stupid. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:53:29 It's like, the real power was in me the whole time. No. You're not supposed to even have those arms. You're supposed to be like a beacon of hope for, like that's, it's supposed to be a cool. thing that like he's part cyborg you know right doesn't just have enhanced arms I'm criticizing
Starting point is 00:53:46 my own pick for for best bad mother you're alive to bet you shall die I always thought that that was what's her face from the OC Marissa's mom I thought it was Maris's mom
Starting point is 00:54:06 turns out it's just a lady that looks exactly like Maris's mom Cindell playing Queen Sindell Motaro looks fucking badass Sonia recast Raiden recast as Mr. Big from... Yeah, Mr. Big.
Starting point is 00:54:19 He's the different guy. He's the other guy from Sex and the City. Dude, Johnny Cage dying immediately? Immediately. Garbage. Taylor would say 47 Ronan
Starting point is 00:54:32 for this answer. He loves 47 Ronan. Is that not a good movie? Yeah, I think it's a... Most people would say it's a bad movie. Uh, objectively bad movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:45 I think, I think Wild West counts. Yeah, no, it is. It does. Um, it was, it was reviled. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:54 You know what was, you know what? This is a generational divide, this one. Okay. Hook. Fuck. I can defend Hook.
Starting point is 00:55:02 That's what I'm saying. So I'm blue in the face. Spielberg doesn't even like it. Dude, for those of you who don't know, screen play, Cary Fisher. Special effects,
Starting point is 00:55:11 assistants, George Lucas. Spielberg directed it. John Williams did the score. Yeah. Not only did John Williams do the score, it was supposed to be a stage production. So there's full songs with lyrics and vocals and everything
Starting point is 00:55:26 written by John Williams. Dustin Hoffman, Robin Williams, is it Glenn Close? Who's in? Who's in? What? Oh, it's like a fun cameo. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Julia Roberts? Dude, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I adore, and Maggie Smith as lady Wendy, I adore that movie. Anybody on over like 35 or like 37 right now. Yeah. Fucking hates Hook. Really? Other than my dad. My dad was fully down with Hook.
Starting point is 00:56:04 But like, there's a weird thing where if you were a certain age, Hook sucked to you. Oh, that's so funny. But like people are age and younger, we're like, this. is the most magical thing. I'll cry right now. When I saw John Williams perform with the Chicago Orchestra, they played La-na la-na la-da-da-da-da-da. And I was like, I was fucking dying. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:32 It was incredible. And you know, the kids at the end, the year of the pan now scene? They didn't know. None of them knew he was going to pick. Dude, when he like Oh. It's so fucking good. Dude, hook is incredible.
Starting point is 00:56:49 That's incredible. All right. Absolutely love the Hauntler episodes. Please do more of them. They are grand. We would love to. Questions. Do you ever plan to do a live stream interview at any point?
Starting point is 00:57:00 Kind of. So here's the thing. I could go live on the Discord right now or invite, I'm just saying, or invite people into the Zoom like we did with Josta. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:10 We could do that, but we got something better kind of in the thing anyway. Just we'll feed you soon, baby birds. Energy drink of choice that aren't coffee. I'm a sugar-free bowl. Me too, but I'm about to be a white monster man for life. You know what I'm saying? Scratch that. Go back a second.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Chipotle, Moes, or Kudoba, it's not even close. I know you have PTSD from... I would rather... drink the cheese alone from mose and not get anything from any of them i was going to say chipoli when are you two going to do a mortician cover band what keeps rolling is god's hate ever coming to minneapolis um i guess when are you guys starting your christian hardcore cover band god's way keep scrolling Favorite moment hearing Sean Martin
Starting point is 00:58:15 gut laugh to Kale's stories. Oh, you guys still need to get him on. We have a mini with Kale. That's really good. We do. It's quick. We've said it's the serious.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Oh, Colin. Are you ready? This is just a nice underhand throw to you. Okay. Explain the hatred of melodic hardcore and what bands you would consider are part of that genre. This is tough.
Starting point is 00:58:43 It sucks, man. It sucks. It's not. Melodic, hardcore to me is, is like a, it's an oxymoron almost, you know, like Christian death metal. It's an oxymoron to me. I think it can be, I do think it can be done well. I think betrayed is straight up good, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Do you like turning point? Like, sure. I'm no, I'm not, turning point doesn't come on and I'm like, yo, turn off turn off. Sure, sure. I'm just saying, I think that that is. Yeah. I can absolutely, I will absolutely defend that. It's just not, it's not for me.
Starting point is 00:59:27 There's nothing about it that was for me. It came into, during a point where it was so the opposite of what I wanted for music. Yeah. And then it, like, it didn't, like a plague, there was a virus. You couldn't get rid of it. It was everywhere. It was everywhere. It was scary.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Oh, jean shorts. Swagless. That's the other. part. It's swagless as well. And I'm guilty of it. I'm saying these things because at the time I was guilty of it. Um, would you consider, and this is, you know, certified friends of the show, I'm not even trying to throw shade or rustle any feathers, but have heart. Yeah, but they got pits, dude. They do got pits. I think, I think Melanic hardcoreans are pitless. Uh-huh. So you're, like the ones that I consider, they just like, I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:00:20 the intention of the music. So you hear octave chords and you go, oh no, but then you hear like a stone. But then I hear like, got it, da, da, da, da, da, da, I'm like, okay, they still they still encourage spin kicking at least.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah. When it's, when it's all, it's like, we're, we're a punk band, you know, we're, we're, that's, that's the vibe. Like, they're, they're, they're a hardcore band full of hardcore guys, but they're like, we want to be a punk band. You know what it's a lot of? And they're just doing, what is that? It's a lot of like eighth notes on kicks with symbol washed.
Starting point is 01:00:50 just like, deen, and I will dot. Dina nina, just like builds. To nothing. To nothing. To do na nina.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Thank you. You know, like, I never got the purpose of that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I think if you enjoy it
Starting point is 01:01:10 and because there's like lyrics that are like meaningful or it's like catchy, then. I'm lyrics second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Lyrics second. If the, if the tunes rock. and I like the noises that the guy is making or the girl is making, then I'll read the lyrics.
Starting point is 01:01:27 And then I'm in. But some of my favorite songs in the world, I don't know all the words. Oh, you know? Are you kidding? You think I know the, I don't know if I know all the lyrics to a single Metallica song.
Starting point is 01:01:41 How could you? There's too many. There's so many. Dude. Yeah. We're doing that soon, right? Yeah. Reviewing the new Metallica.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Yeah. Maybe next week. Okay. This one's for me. Oh, how we've met would be fun. We've covered it. Go back to the very first episode, second episode. Colin, heeping, glucose.
Starting point is 01:02:13 What? We met as most people in our kind of world often do is just kind of through other people. was a parking lot of a fest yeah food is always talked about but usually in regards to meals as someone who snacks hard I want to hear your thoughts on snacks when at the grocery store what is the master killer
Starting point is 01:02:38 of snacks I'm a popcorn man so catch me smashing whole bags of skinny pop on the regular I I don't really snack all that much snacking is like is
Starting point is 01:02:54 is every person's kryptonite, you know? Yeah. Because you could eat three, two pretty bad meals a day and be pretty fine. You know? Because like there's going to be some nutritional value in all of them. Snacks are where you are eating empty, no nutritional value type calories, you know? And while you're probably on the couch or working. Chilling.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Just chilling, yeah. But I love a snack. So there was, there was, dude, the, like, sickest I ever was with, like, eating disorder stuff. I planned out my exercise routine and my diet so that I could perfectly eat a whole box of cheese today. Like to the calorie? Yeah. Like to the, the grams of carbs that were in a full box was the only carbs I would eat a day. But I would eat that full box a day.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I think it's cool that you talk. about that time period. Yeah. As an eating disorder. Yeah. Not that I ever objectively, he was like, what the fuck's going on with Colin? But like, most people in my life were. People that were like directly around me were more concerned then than they were when I was.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Bigger. Yeah. Huge. But it's an amazing, you know, you went from skinny little man to not skinny little man to a skinny little man to a skinny little man to thick ass boy. Yeah. And that kind of happened throughout the, you can track that in the show kind of. Really?
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah. Because I was probably 180. You were starting to get big. Yeah, I was 180. Well, I got big. Broke my hand. Got small. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:47 You know, just started doing crazy cardio. And then. got down to like 180 or so soft a soft 180 175 maybe I'm about 220 2225 now rock hard other than I'm 205 pounds other than the soft parts it's fine um yeah I don't really snack and I'm this is the snack question yeah and I'm doing uh I'm doing Lou Carbigan now, like, with a meal plan and like a meal kit service and stuff. So I'm pretty
Starting point is 01:05:25 seriously watching. Pick three snacks. Like the golden archers of snacks. Okay. Great question. String cheese. Oh, delicious. I don't even count that, dude. That's so good for you. Yeah. Six grams of protein per string cheese. I mean, they're great and they're keto. So it's like best both words. Oh, dude, Pop-Tarts.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Okay. See, now that's a snack. That's a full on snack Because I forget about this bow That's older bow Even just now before I started dieting again I didn't have snacks I would just eat like two big meals a day I usually cook but
Starting point is 01:06:05 A pop tart Dut s'mores pop tarts chocolate fudge Pop tarts cinnamon or sugar Okay so you like you don't like the fruit ones as much Not as much no no Did you like the Spider-Man ones? So the Spider-Man ones I believe were the wildberry ones of old And I love that
Starting point is 01:06:22 So yes. That was the last time I ever ate a pop chart was when the Spider-Man ones came out. Because I was like, I wanted to be solid, have solidarity for Spider-Man as a kid, you know? I wanted them, I wanted to support Spider-Man, so I got the Spider-Man. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Cereal? Cereal doesn't count. How is this? So many people snack on cereal in between meals. So many people. But you're not getting cereal at a fucking gas station on tour, you know? Very. Okay, okay, great.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Excellent point. Yeah. On tour then, Reese's sticks? Great answer. Oh, my God. Those things. Mine would be. And then sun chips.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Which flavor? I'm a blue bag, man, or the garden salsa, the red bag. If you can find them, they're rare. That's Subway exclusive at this point. Like Target. Yeah. For me, it's hot and spicy cheeses. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Best snack ever. Yeah. Is the best. savory snack of all. This doesn't really count, but this was my after-school snack. The two-pack Red Baron deep dish pizza. Oh, dude, fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:38 The one that's like that doesn't count. That's a definite meal, but I'd crush both of them. I wouldn't eat all that. I would starve myself all day so I could get home and eat both of them. And my dad would get like one pack of those a week. So it was like my snacks for the week,
Starting point is 01:07:52 I was gone Monday at 3.30. p.m. Dude, I loved hot pockets, too. Meatballs, mozzarella hot pockets. I preferred bagel bites and the Red Barron deep dish over that. Do bagel bites can't? Definitely. That's the best, that's better than...
Starting point is 01:08:08 When pizza's on a bagel, Colin, you can have pizza any time. Okay, then the bagel bites are the best snack of all time. They are so good, dude. Like to this day, see, I had another era in my eating disorder where I was like, you know what? these aren't that bad for you. And I was working them into my plan, you know? Wow. Like that was my post workout thing was like 40 bagel bites.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Wow. The full party pack, the family fiesta pack of bagel bites. Does California slash Chicago have ocean? That's good. Good call back. If you had a signature dish or item from a restaurant or fast food joint, what would it be and where would it be from? What would the Colin McDonald's meal be?
Starting point is 01:08:53 Oh, like the hard-lord McDonald's meal be. Like if we got like a Travis Scott type thing. Like the Cardi B thing, yeah. It would have to be a little bit of both of us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would be two large Diet Coke's, right? Genius. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Two large Zichokes. Editory. Just easy. Two large fries. Uh, 40 nuggets. And a big Mac with no cheese. an extra sauce. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:26 And then what would your thing? I would do a McDouble, ketchup only. Dude, this meal would be huge. It would smash. It would be like 1699, but we'd kill it. Stats,
Starting point is 01:09:39 1699. Dude. Lately? How much is 40 nuggets? 10 bucks? A lot. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:09:47 40? I think it's 10 box. I think 20 is 5. Nugget economy has has improved while everything else has altered? Let me check my ad. Let me see here.
Starting point is 01:10:01 That can't be possible. That's like Burger King prices. Nuggets and meals. 20 nuggets, 699. 40 nuggets, 1299. Dude, six nuggets is like 499. So it's like you might as well get 20. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:22 So 40 McNuggets, 1299. Okay. Six piece spicy McNuggets? Dude, they have spicy nuggets? No. It's on my app. Spicey nuggets are back? This is breaking.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Wait. We gotta go. Wait. Are you kidding me? It's on my app. Dude, we gotta wrap this episode up. Get, uh, Dornash on the car, dude. This is real?
Starting point is 01:10:51 Wait. It's on my app. I don't know. I don't know. Wait. This is huge. Not for me. What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:11:04 You know what it means. You're a fucking piece of shit. Next question. follow up. Will you ever do another listener's stories? I have a couple in the pipe that I'd love to share.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Those are our worst episodes of all time, so absolutely not. Our two lowest episodes across the board. Is that true? Oh, yeah. Sorry about that radical. But you can Q&IS.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Favorite underrated fast food chain. I do have one that I feel like is rarely talked about. We've kind of talked about it, but steak and shake, pretty fucking good. It is underrated. underrated. It's kind of accelerated cuisine, but dude, also noodles and company.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Yeah. That's accelerated cuisine. That's accelerated cuisine for sure. I love noodles and company. To me, because when you think fast food, right, you go McDonald's Taco Bell, Burger King Wendy's. That's where your mind goes. Pop-I's is fucking elite, dude. It needs to be in the conversation. We need to have this. What is that?
Starting point is 01:12:14 What are the people, those fucking idiots say on Twitter and stuff? You're not ready for this conversation. Yeah, we're not ready for this conversation. That Popeyes is underrated. Even though people put respect on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:25 It needs more respect. Popeyes is incredible. There are two near me and they're in the worst possible locations. Yeah. Just. You have to. Not even like neighborhood wise, but just like to get to,
Starting point is 01:12:39 they're just like on the corner of the, the busiest streets. Like you can't. It is literally, I think there's one on Satakoi in Sepulveda, which is Sherman Way and Sepulveda. It's one block away.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Sherman Way and Sepulveda is like the traffic-wise, the most dangerous intersection in Los Angeles, California. And the Popeyes is one block away. There's one across the street from the pro wrestling T's store. It's on my street, actually. That's an excellent answer. It's 100. It's fucking great.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Yeah. Let's see here. Favorite moment? The Honolower where for the entire episode, Colin would get to a new area and say, do you think anyone has ever spinked here? And then do a spin cake. That was his favorite.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Yeah. That was a favorite moment. Me too. Let's see. I don't recall ever hearing you guys talk about Freddy's, the burger place with the red lettering and the white. Never been. Also curious if you ever tried.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Also curious if you ever tried illegal Pete's because they hook up touring mans. I have. It's at Grand Junction in Colorado. It's like a Chipotle kind of Mo's kind of place, but if you're on tour and can prove it, they give you food. So respect to them. Yeah, I like that. I like anybody that does that.
Starting point is 01:13:57 I will abuse that system happily. Will we be getting any more segments for the show? Weekly coverage of new releases in the scene. Have thought about that. Yeah. Instrument play-throughs or lessons? No. Track breakdowns where you have an artist go over recording process and fun facts about the songs.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Possibly. That's some hard lore. It's pretty cool. Yeah. I want to do that in person. I want to make sure that was. Yeah. And we would need like, you know, a tailor.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Multiple. Like an engineer or something. What medical band? What metal core medical? Metal core bands do you guys actually like? Define, okay, now I want you to, because I saw my buddy, Zach Nelson, 185 miles south podcast, check him out. Ask what is metal core? By all intents and purposes, and definitively, and objectively, Marauder is a metal core band.
Starting point is 01:15:01 That is, like, Marauder and all out war. And all at war. Like, that's metal core, metallic core. Yeah. core. Yeah. I don't know what this other stuff is. That should have its own name,
Starting point is 01:15:16 but I guess it's just easier to call it metalcore. It's classic metal core versus modern metal core. Totally. But like if that means we get to claim Marauder and all the war as hardcore bands, then so be it. Fine by me. Fine. Yeah, fine.
Starting point is 01:15:31 But if we're talking that, the kind of colloquial use of the word. I like, like, dead to fall. Yeah. I mean, disembodied is that. I think it's like the hot course past, don't they. You know what? What?
Starting point is 01:15:51 Bo. The blueprint for what these metalcore bands are doing is Kaven. Oh, yeah, yeah. Kaven is the best metal, like, of that, if that's what we're calling metalcore band, it starts and ends at Kavan. To me. Skinny jeans.
Starting point is 01:16:08 One guys wearing skinny jeans with flip-flops. one the fucking little carabiner is dangling with his keys off and the Torlammon on it slamming so hard against his fucking belt yeah his canvas belt that cave in they did it that's the real shit man yeah yeah yeah oh this is this is excellent hit me for both of us if you guys had to move cities where would you go you can't go in California how about we both say nowhere in California because it's almost too often. It's so easy, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Boston, Massachusetts. Really? You'd go to the cold. Yeah. You know why? Why? Because I have an Arcteric's beta insulated jacket. Wow. Thanks, Bobby. Thanks, Bob.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Friend of the show. I'd go to Southern Colorado. It's kind of shittier, so it's cheaper to live there, and the weather is less bad. the weather is less bad dude fucking Denver gets more sunshine than Chicago it's insane my god that's where you choose in the whole country yeah I really like it there legitimately no dis to Colorado everybody I know from Colorado yeah don't live in Colorado no more yeah but they also don't live in a place where it's fucking flat and I still get six months of snow you don't like the flat yo it's snowed today did it really yes it was 80 degrees on Friday it's
Starting point is 01:17:48 snowed in Chicago today. That makes no sense. You know where I'm a big fan of? What's that? Pacific Northwest. Oh, I mean. Gorgeous. No problem. Oh, my God. Put me in Vancouver or fucking Seattle. Oh, Portland. I would live in Portland in Hartfordland. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:04 That's easy. And you know what? I love My dad, my dad lives in Texas. Texas, yeah, yeah. I love visiting Texas. But maybe it's a visiting thing, you know? Yeah, because like that's the thing, right? It's like, I love it. How long and until I have to kill a racist guy, you know?
Starting point is 01:18:21 0.3 minutes longer than you normally say. It's like, yeah, exactly. I love Vegas. I don't think I could live in Vegas. Oh, dude, Reno, Sierra Nevada up there. Reno is actually amazing. It's awesome. Because it's like two and a half hours from San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Yeah, no, Reno came up in a big way in the last like decade or so. Yeah, yeah. It's, it is like, it's mini Portland. I could live in Reno for sure. I actually think I could. Yeah. I would give it. I'd be open to it.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Put it that way. Me too. Lana, if you're listening, I'm lying. Just making Bo happy. Don't, don't quote me.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Similar to the fast food question. You're driving down the highway and need to stop for gas. You stop at the holy grail of gas stations that has literally every snack of drink you can think of. What are you grabbing before you get back in the van? That's it.
Starting point is 01:19:14 We did this already. That's crazy. The synergy. The high. It's an amazing question, but I beat you to it. And the answer is hot and spicy cheeses. And what do you get to drink? Ooh, it's a magical one, right?
Starting point is 01:19:27 It's a magical one. They got everything. The Wawa, half and half iced tea lemonade diet. The Arnold Palmy? Oh, my God. The diet one is so good. There's no reason being that good. It's one of the greatest beverages on the planet.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Specifically. True nectar. What are the worst times where you guys feel? felt like giving up on music. You've talked about this. Oh, come on, dude. Yeah. November 1st, 2015.
Starting point is 01:19:58 The day after Disharmonie came out. You know the Twitter thread that keeps going up where it's like, what's the biggest I'm not him moment in history? I was going to respond with just the album art of Disharmony, but I didn't want to make it about me, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was, dude, disharmonie. Damn near killed me.
Starting point is 01:20:19 I'm not joking. That was it where I was like, this is the last music I've ever made. You know? That was it. And then it wasn't. And then it wasn't, thankfully. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:35 I got like two or three more records in me. Probably. You got more. Yeah. We got to do this Allison Chainsman. You got it. Favorite. What about you?
Starting point is 01:20:49 Oh, um, giving up on music? November 1st, 2015. Yeah. when it, almost, you know, it's never a, we've been fortunate, I think, as a band to not have put anything out where it's like, fuck this.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Fuck, yeah. So it's not been that or like a tour. We've been fucking brutalized with like crime and stuff. Yeah. When we had our trailer stolen in Vegas, James and I were the first two walking out and we were walking to the van together. at the Luxor. And where the oversized parking lot was,
Starting point is 01:21:31 you had to walk through a parking garage and then it's just a big parking lot. And there's not, it's a desert and a parking lot. So there's like a tree, you know, six inches thick. And we're both walking.
Starting point is 01:21:44 We're both just like, man, trailer must be behind that tree, huh? Kind of a thing. Like we were just into complete denial until we got two, 10 feet of the van, realized what happened.
Starting point is 01:21:54 And there was a very real moment where I was like, I'm done with this. I'm going to fly home. Yeah. I'm like the band's done for sure. I'm never coming back. Like yeah,
Starting point is 01:22:04 I'm not doing this anymore. This is insane. So a little, little different, but I was ready to be done. This one's for you. Favorite Eldon Ring build. A spell sword.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Come on. Next. Easy. Start with a prisoner. Go from there. Sanity asked me if I ever painted if I ever painted over the green room in this room, I did with more green.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Darker green. It's a much nicer green. Well, Jordan Olds of two minutes of late night did his in like this gorgeous, gorgeous forest green. This is what my room looks like. Yeah, that's not bad. No, it's very pleasant, actually.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Because before it was... It was so punishing. I felt like you were going crazy in the Lyme room. I was. You still are, but in a different way. Am. You look, let me tell you something. I put on episode one the other day just for fun, just for shits.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Just to do it. You look like you've lost 15, 20 pounds, probably. Thank you. Is that true, you think? Um, no, it's, it's like, metrically, provably not true. But, um, you're doing something different. I'm doing something different. I, I mean, until a lot of,
Starting point is 01:23:28 gifted me with those wonderful cupcakes for our one year anniversary. She's a good person. I wasn't eating any carbs and I've just, you know, even even in the last like month or so since I got fired, I've been like really being careful, you know. Good. What else are you going to do, you know? Yeah. The closest brush in with the law police or TSA on tour. This is classic.
Starting point is 01:23:59 I think I told this in the Justice episode, but on my very first European tour, this is probably not my closest one, but this is the most podcast-friendly one. Half the tour bought these like industrial strength green laser pointers. And we were just pointing them at planes and people. Like we were just walking back to the hotel like la la la and thinking like, damn, you can see it on the plane.
Starting point is 01:24:30 that's crazy. And police cops rolled up like 30 seconds later. No way. And in English, because they knew, said, okay, who has the lasers? Confiscated every laser. Yeah. This laser cost me like 40 euro, dude. In 2010.
Starting point is 01:24:51 And that was like $65. I had about 60 euro for the tour, you know? But I was like, this laser's so cool. I have to get it. that was a good they didn't arrest anybody or anything but but I'm pretty crushed to this day about the loss of my industrial strength
Starting point is 01:25:07 green laser pointer that I got in Italy or Germany or wherever the fuck I was we landed in Japan and they were going through all of our bags after we landed sometimes they'll do that they found James workout bag with chalk in it and the dude
Starting point is 01:25:24 didn't speak any English the Japanese you know border patrol guy or whatever customs guy for a real one. Oh, and, like, thought it was like a brick of Coke. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Yeah. And I had to be like, no, no. And I, like, I grabbed James Arm. I was like, you know, and they were like,
Starting point is 01:25:41 oh. And like did a little test strip or whatever. Damn. We're good boys. We're very good boys. Uh, running with the law.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Yeah. I don't know. I don't know either. Worst injury on tour. You've been. sick. You ever been injured? I had a crazy allergic reaction to a cat one time. And my face swelled up twice the size.
Starting point is 01:26:15 I'm telling you, Brody King, Anthony, they can all attest. This is on a tour with God's hate and King Nine. Yeah. My face was double the size. Oh, my God. And it looked like a completely different person. I don't think a single photo exists. That's it.
Starting point is 01:26:30 But it was like, I've never. It was crazy. How is that possible? I don't know. I think they're out there. Guys, if you have them, please send them. These are two great questions. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:42 When are we getting a Twitching Tongue show? And does Colin have a problem with gambling? Next. What are your Wawa orders? The gobbler. What's the, oh, is that the turkey thing? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:01 The gobbler with two Arnold Palmer's diet. I love a meatball, Sammy. Loaded up with like provolone. Dude, I mean, so when it's not gobbler season, I'm getting the pepperoni pizza sandwich. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. So good. And it's very similar to the meatball.
Starting point is 01:27:22 You put mariner on any meat, and I'm like, I don't really need anything else. Also, the Colin Deftones bit where he did an impression of the singer on the pod, literally made me go into a wheezing fit at work. I think about it weekly and still laughing. You want to get some more? I want to thank you that was good
Starting point is 01:27:47 uh here this is okay let's not it's not shit on uh this person because they probably just assume that everyone's into it but favorite black metal and grindcore records for uh extreme conditions demand extreme responses that's what's called that's like ASIC
Starting point is 01:28:06 I like carcass yeah yeah that's about it black metal i don't really give a fuck no black metal is not good i'll tell you what i like dimo borgia brother that's that's the best black metal man i like immortal but i like immortal when it stopped being just black metal like suns and darkness is where it's kind of more a little more technical question for colin the internet reaction to your songs in a w have obviously been great yeah anyone like tony or the others reach out to you about their reactions would be sick if you eventually do a song for a pay-per-view.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Like Tony Kahn? Yeah. The billionaire. No. Nobody's reaching out to me. It's very cellular is what I've gathered. Like you're just kind of operating and link up with someone who uses it. It's up to the, like I can tell you with the buddy one.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Buddy using I suggest was like, hey, we didn't figure anything out. You have a big match tomorrow. Do you want to use this? Wow. It was basically it. And he was like, yeah, Mike. And it's sick. So, and then, so it was like, okay, if you like it, we'll do, we'll push this part here.
Starting point is 01:29:21 We'll do this part here. And then I'll do a little voiceover. What do you want me to say? Say this. Okay. Does this sound good? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Eight hours later, it's on TV. Um, and like the, the Kings of the Black Throne one for, for Brody and Tom. Yeah. Big Tom obviously was like, that was the first. first one that was the starter there was no plans for it to be on tv or anything uh they were a little warmer with me when we were doing that one because it was like the first one and it was their first time working with me you know yeah like excited to have a new guy as part of like the yeah yeah and i think once once i did another one they were just like oh this fucking guy again
Starting point is 01:30:03 nobody's actually um but you know the wrestlers want if they i'll do it i'll do it forever as long is right the boys are there's a house guy yeah you're not you're not trying to step on toes i don't want i'm not he he's paid full time to do that you know it and i like obviously i can't do what he does straight up like like the jamie hater song i don't i couldn't write that um did did do i couldn't do i could not do that but i think you know there's obvious there's going to be situations where, like, there's a right man for the job. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:44 And when somebody wants, like, a hard, an, like a straight up, hard song, I feel, I have proven at this point. Did it. Dan, and, done it. Then I'm the man for the job. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:58 But, no, but, but the, the, the, the locker room is, is the most receptive and, and excited and cool about it. That's been cool. Favorite air drum along band while listening to or watching live. King Diamond. King Diamond. Oh, watching live?
Starting point is 01:31:17 Yeah. It says it's listening to. Armsway King Nine. It's true. You do, you do be air drumming. I know every one of them fucking things that he's about to do. Even the live ones.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Even the live. I know the live. Get through the gets. Get through the kids. I know that one. That is Mills. And then the breeding grounds when he switches to the crash live. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:38 Dundin, d'an, d'an, d'can, got, Deng, Gag, Degad, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gah, Degas, Gah, Gah, Degas. You know all of them, King Nine, uh, but recorded, uh, but recorded, Biodo Houser King Diamond. I think for me, it would probably be like, again, I think I can do it, but I can't, I'm not much of a drummer at all, but like, Ghost is very fun to air drumming, too. Yo, the guy, the guy, the open-handed guy, the open-handed guy who never stopped counting with the left foot. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:32:08 is he always a fucking beast. Yeah, he's awesome. That high hat foot never stops. All his fills were so risty too. Very risty, but it's like, if you subtract that left foot, for me, it's like, oh, this is child's play, you know? But the fact that that thing never stopped.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Really? Is great. To me, like as somebody who started playing drums with double kick. Yeah. The high hat, whoever, any drummer out there that can do the high hat foot never stopping. Is that like, The flex?
Starting point is 01:32:39 I think they're amazing. Really? I think it's like, with drumming, I think that's a normal thing that you learn in like drumming basic fundamentals. But I was self-taught. I didn't know how to do that.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Yeah. So normal shit like that blows my mind. I love that. That's fun. Yeah. That's fun. What city has the best barbecue and why is it Memphis?
Starting point is 01:32:59 It's not. It's not. But it's very good in Memphis. Central barbecue is no, no problem. Yo, St. Louis has some unbelievable. St. Louis has great barbecue. I had a place called Bamas yesterday in rural Michigan that was St. Louis style. And it was fucking great.
Starting point is 01:33:18 You know, San Antonio. I've had some of the best barbecue in my life. Of course, because they have the best to everything. Because they're the best. Austin. I don't say many good things about Austin. Austin does have good food. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:30 I've had, I think it was called Iron Barbecue in Austin. And it was like, you ever get beef ribs? The big fucker. I don't prefer them. But yeah. They're less flavorful. But if the sauce is rocking.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Yeah. How do you feel about a hot link? Love a hot link. What's your favorite barbecue like? Acutremont? Like if I'm picking an order? Oh, I mean, brisket is my number one.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Yeah. Barbecue is my thing. Make a little like a Martin's potato roll brisket sandwich. A hot link. I'm not a pole pork guy. I like pole pork, but I'll go brisket
Starting point is 01:34:07 like 10%. Every time. Every time. I'm not a big pork guy. It depends. Yeah, I can see that. Dude, we got burnt end like matro fries. And then I got a brisket cassidia.
Starting point is 01:34:23 That sounds good. Outstanding. What do you guys think about hardcore heavy bands doing covers of non-hardcore artists like Bain, Flashwater covering Bjork? It sounds interesting for you guys as musicians. I wish. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:37 I could do it and not feel as though it compromise the band. One of the, one of the very first, like, okay, one of the very first things I ever heard when I was downloading music as like a 13 year old was H2O covering like a player. I thought you were going to say throw down baby got back. And that, surely. That changed shit. Surely I remember that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:00 So it was just like, to me, it's just always like a gimmick. Like it's always like kind of just like a. And then like the Newfound Glory thing, you know, just like. Yeah, they've done like full albums of it. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it can be done right. It can be done right.
Starting point is 01:35:13 But like, Flashwater doesn't count because Fleshwater is like not only a music band. Actual musicians. Actual musicians. And you got like twitching tongues covering like Goldless woman. You know, it's like.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Yeah, that was sick. You can do that. That was that was a complete like last. This harmony was recorded. Yeah. Drums were wrapped and everything. And then at like midnight Taylor and I were just talking in a living room. And you'll be,
Starting point is 01:35:44 we'll be fucking sick if we recorded that. And it was going to be like I hit just like a B side on the on the album. Yeah. And it was like just fire up the stuff. Let's just record at least record the drums. So I played drums on that and just listened to the original. He made a little count in for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:02 And I just played to the Fleetman Mac song. So it's like the same, it would be the same BPM as whatever theirs was. because it was just listening to it like, okay, we'll do this. Nis you may. It was cool. It was just like complete,
Starting point is 01:36:16 like record was done. Oh, let's add this. That's fun. Yeah, no pressure then, you know, just fun.
Starting point is 01:36:23 You know what? One of the best heavy covers of a non-heavy song is, Crowbar, no quarter. Crowbar fucking Dreamweaver,
Starting point is 01:36:37 dude. Which one? Dreamweaver. Oh, dude, that one's amazing. Oh, my God. But that no quarter is on my favorite. It's my favorite song on my favorite Zeppelin record.
Starting point is 01:36:47 So when I heard them do it, it was just like, oh shit. You know. So the Dream Weaver won for me because of Wayne's World. Yeah. Was like, that was a real full circle thing. She's a babe. Typo did a lot of. Typo did a lot.
Starting point is 01:37:03 And dude, like, and what's funny is like, Cinnamon Girl is incredible. Yeah. Fucking Hey Pete. Dude, hey Pete is crazy. I'm going to. take that Detroit. Brighton Beach. Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:37:21 I love, if somebody can do it, it's great, but I just like, I'm fully down. I can't imagine Harm's Way covering a non-heavy song. You know what I mean? It just depends.
Starting point is 01:37:32 It's a case by band basis. You know, what you got there. God damn it. Favorite. Co-Haden Cambria song? Song? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Guess we know who's teacher's pet Big Easy. Song. I think it might be in keeping secrets. The fucking whoa section?
Starting point is 01:37:59 Oh my God. I would love some closure on the big Did Bo ever score with the Whole Foods fish debacle? No. It just never would have worked between us.
Starting point is 01:38:09 We were two very different people. He's moved on. He's got help since the show. We grew apart. I told him he couldn't be fucking. fish well one of these days it would jeopardize the show you know my my fish skeletons would come back
Starting point is 01:38:23 to home they'd come out favorite Mario universe character from any Mario Nintendo game now we're talking that's fun I mean objectively it's Luigi he's I mean I'm a big Yoshi guy Yoshi rocks but does he have the chops the comedy the comedic chops that Luigi has no I mean No. Did you see the movie? I haven't seen the movie. I haven't seen it yet. No, no.
Starting point is 01:38:48 I only saw the Redfield movie that you apparently hated. Dude, it is unbelievable. I'm telling you. It is perfect. It's crazy. Did you see John Wick for? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:05 I loved it. I don't want to engage with you on that debate on the show. I don't want to get you in trouble. There's no debate. There's no debate. Yeah. I just wasn't.
Starting point is 01:39:16 Just. Just stop. Pretty good in trouble. Who would you pick? Maybe Bowser Jr. I love Bowser Jr. That's fun. That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:39:30 I never pick him in anything. Smash Bros. Mario Card or anything, but I think it's Luigi for me. I love Luigi. Well, here's the thing. If I'm picking in a Mario game as a playable character, the answer is Peach.
Starting point is 01:39:44 Because she could do the little flutter fly thing. so you can jump longer. Oh, yeah. Mario 2. Each is the best playable character. Mario 2? Get everywhere in that stuff, bitch. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Each is the best playable character. That's science. I won't, I will debate any of you because Zelda fucking sucks and Mario is God. Okay? No, no, no. No.
Starting point is 01:40:06 No. Do you guys think that bands like Weapon X, World of Pleasure, and Point of Contact are the new way to approach Straight Edge in 2023? There's nothing new about it. Does the minority unit slash no tolerant straight edge era doesn't fit with the heavy music era of hardcore? I'm confused with what the question is?
Starting point is 01:40:26 Yeah, I don't. Like the, like musically? Maybe. I don't know. I'm sorry that I don't understand. I don't think that there's anything really new about Weapon X, World of Pleasure, or Point of Contact, personally. Like hard music with hard lyrics? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:42 That's a wonderful. It's a tale as old as time, but it's like I'm, I'm, glad that it's still. Yes. That it's, that it is still that way. They're keeping hard straight edge bands alive where the norm would be something more like a no tolerance,
Starting point is 01:40:58 a floor punch, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Like that's, that's like tried and true straight edge 101. Yeah. It's,
Starting point is 01:41:08 I mean, those are no tolerance floor punch are in like, the annals of history as like all time best trade edge men. Um, So I like, you know, I like when it is different. Definitely. And when it's the same, frankly. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Do the same thing. Just say different, harder stuff. I'm down. Don't make it melodic. Just don't make it melodic. Melodic, straight at its hardcore. I'd rat you'd have to zell me. How bad does your neck hurt after Colin crank down it?
Starting point is 01:41:39 Not at all. I'm bigger, faster, strung. Well, I'm also, I'm a great. I'm Brett Hart. Oh. Yeah. He protected. me. I'm very gentle.
Starting point is 01:41:48 He protected me on that sidewalk. What is the master killer of rap music? We don't. We don't know. We don't know. To me, it's onyx back to fuck up, but I know I'm wrong. You know? I'll tell you what the master killer of R&B music is. Oh, please do. It's Boysome and Coolly High Harmony.
Starting point is 01:42:09 People think I'm joking with this. I used to wear Boys Men shirts from Twitch and Tunes played all the time. I love Boysome. They're talented men. Talented men? Who were boys. They're maybe the greatest harmonizers in the history of music. Yeah, I mean, you know me.
Starting point is 01:42:28 BG's boys, cement. Love me, a harmony. Well, I love me a coolly high harmony. I'll tell you that much. Will the vocalists and many hardlores eventually get there are full episodes like Vogel, Matthew Honeycutton, Joseph. Yeah. 1,000%.
Starting point is 01:42:44 Yeah. These are just little taste, little appetizers. This is a garnish. A fast song Hold on Allow me to read this how it's written Oh you know what His name is the same thing as the weapon X thing
Starting point is 01:42:59 He's got Brazilian in the name So maybe English not the first language So I'll be very nice A fast song Can be hard Yes Or heavier than a heavy song Like infest
Starting point is 01:43:13 That's what it was written I think they're trying to say Is it better to have a fast song that's hard or a heavy song that's hard. I don't know. I don't know what the question is. I think it all depends on the intention and the execution. You know?
Starting point is 01:43:30 Like I think some bands use fast parts as a crush. Who's the hardest fast band? Like who's a band that has a pukup, puk, puk, puk, pique, but you're just like, piece by piece. Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good answer. Peace by piece could do a song with no mosh part, just going. the whole time and it's the hardest song.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Okay. Because of the intention behind it and the lyrics. Good answer. True answer. It's a fact. Yeah. The only answer. Favorite moments three-way tie.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Okay. The great fast food debate. The Christmas special. Christmas special was fun. Near and down my heart. I was so tired. I know. I will never forget how tired I was in the Christmas special.
Starting point is 01:44:17 This motherfucker was falling asleep. It was crazy. We had crispy cream. Colin ordered. Colin got Krispy cream and then Colin's wife accidentally also ordered Krispy Cream. Yo, that happened again like a month ago. We both ordered Krispy Cream.
Starting point is 01:44:31 Dozens of donuts. It's a problem. It's a problem. Greatest accomplishment to happen to the show. And do you think Hardlore will ever have a Hardlore exclusive discord moot or gathering? Yeah. What the hell does that? What the hell does that?
Starting point is 01:44:51 What the? Kingsmoot, like a meeting. So like, say... I was born in 1991. So say there's... Say we go to something like Sound of Fury. This is hardcore. Will we ever have like, hey, come get a pick moment or something?
Starting point is 01:45:09 Huh. I would say I could see that happening. Just find... Just some fineness anywhere. Yeah, yeah. We don't need to make it a theater. I don't need to. You don't need to stand in a line.
Starting point is 01:45:21 let's see too many fave moments for this was Colin explaining how was appendix burst shout out to our mutual friend tisou who just went through that as well gangster taylor of rumble fame yeah and many many millions of shows let's do some ads real quick today's sponsor for the very first time athletic greens we're here to tell you about ag1 bow how you found about AG1. I feel really good about AG1. As we like to do with anything else we're working with, they reached out to us, sent us stuff, and we've been on it for a couple weeks now. They heard about our, frankly, revolting diets and the way we live our lives. And they knew, they literally just knew. They were like, hey, take these for a bit and then we'll talk about
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Starting point is 01:47:39 All right. It's also Manscape Time. You know all about Manscape, baby. We got a special Manscape. Oh, you got that one? This month. Yeah, this is the testicular cancer awareness special edition. Wow.
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Starting point is 01:48:11 or on your ball. If it's smooth, it's typically okay. You still want to get it checked out. If it's jagged or asymmetrical or kind of doesn't feel right, you definitely want to get that checked out. That's usually indicative of a problem. Noted. Without naming names,
Starting point is 01:48:32 there are two mutual friends of ours who are working together at once, one through a tennis ball at the other, nailed them right in the nut. Uh-huh. And caused a cyst. You can do it. You can cause them? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Trauma. You can give somebody cancer. No, no, no. It was a growth as a reaction to trauma. Wasn't cancerous. It was just a cyst. Manscaped. Manscaped.
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Starting point is 01:49:14 It's the rest of the episode. Oh, my God. But yeah, Manscape, they've been really cool. It's testicular cancer enough. Hashtag we save balls. So check them out. It's whatnot at time. We're coming up, man.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Next Friday is the second ever. Hardlaw or whatnot. For those of you who watched our first one who bought anything, thank you guys so much. That was awesome. Yeah. It was very helpful. I was recently fired.
Starting point is 01:49:39 So. Yes. But. I got oodles of stuff now, all kinds of sizes. Yeah. I got a bunch of convicted records. I got a ton of convicted shirts, tons of old harm's way shirts, large, mediums, smalls. I even got some.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Well, guess what I just did, Bo? What? I just put in an order for black comfort colors, hard lore polar bear shirts. Uh-oh. So there will be 72 of those available. next Friday. Please buy every single. I mean, 72. There's 20,000
Starting point is 01:50:15 people listen to the show week. So somebody's got to buy it. Minimum. So we sell 72 of them, motherfuckers, right? Yeah. So what do they get if they use our code when they sign up for whatnot? You get $15 off your first purchase? Right? It's something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get money off your first purchase. Yeah. It helps us out.
Starting point is 01:50:35 It does. And you can use that during our show. 15 bucks you don't have to spend when bidding on one of our things. And as anybody that was part of the first show can tell you, it's basically the closest thing you will get currently to a live hard or episode. Exactly. It looks exactly like this. It looks just like this.
Starting point is 01:50:55 And we wing it, much like these ads. Yeah. We really wing it. Let's get back to the episode. And we're back. We're so professional. I know. Give me another question.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Stuck on a desert island. All you have. is a post-black album Metallica release and an infinite amount of one-chip flavors. What is your pick? That's a great question. You know what I pick, though? I bet you know damn well what I pick. I do.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Yep. A gun to my fucking head. I'm going to say S&M. Oh, that counts? Why not? He said release. Oh, easy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Gun off-head, S&M fired up. One chip flavor? Yeah. now that's tougher man well okay it does say chip flavor so that's not necessarily because like sun chipped that's not a chip flavor you know
Starting point is 01:51:53 I'm just thinking like I'm gonna get sick a nacho cheese drita I'm gonna get sick a cool wrenched rite I'm gonna get sick of the sour cream and onion lays so I might have to go the sweet Maui onion oh the weird the purple bag yeah yeah I don't exactly what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:52:12 Or the kettle salt and black pepper one. Dude, say that again, I sneezed. The kettle brand salt and the coarse black pepper. That one's really good. That one is like kind of spicy. It is spicy with just being black powder. Yeah, it's true. Black pepper.
Starting point is 01:52:28 For me, it's Cape Quad. Salt and vinegar. Salt and vinegar for the rest of your life. Vinegar is my favorite, like, flavor of, of barbecue. Your mouth is built different. Diff, baby. Mine, if I eat, if I eat a serving of salt and vinegar chips, I have a canker army grown.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Oh, yeah, no, I don't get any of that. You don't get kangar swords? Never. Wow, you're blessed. In different ways. When are we getting to Colin Young workout plan? There are two things that I think you should do. And this is my suggestion for you,
Starting point is 01:53:11 as a venture on your own to make money in addition. Uh-huh. Have people do a Colin Young fucking Patreon and have people pay for your shit, whatever. For what to work out? Dude, you have provable, noticeable, photographed change.
Starting point is 01:53:30 It's just like writing... But I'm all getting that from a guy on YouTube. So, that's every riff you've ever... Every riff you've ever written is the same thing. We talk about it all the time. There's nothing new under the sun. but what you're doing is working. Relax.
Starting point is 01:53:43 Shut up. Also. Those are all new. This is not. And this is Scott Herman Fitness kid. And you're, you need to figure out some kind of t-shirt sleeve cutting. I'm working on a template. Don't worry.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm working on that. I cut this one today. Oh, really? You're, you're, okay, you cut yours a little too close to the neck for me because I don't want that much of my titty out. But that's preference. But that's what I'm saying. You're very concerned.
Starting point is 01:54:11 in how you cut yours, so that's, that's good. I can, I don't have any shirts down here. You're not getting it. You all show you on the whatnot live next Friday. Dude, make an option for one of the shirts you sell to be. Yeah. That's fun. That's good.
Starting point is 01:54:31 Would you rather never be able to listen to Master Killer ever again or still be able to listen to Master's Killer, but you have to listen to St. Anger and Fold Through headphones every day for the rest of your life? I'll never listen to Master Killer ever again because I got it in my head. Yeah, that's true. I got that record. I could play Master Killer. I could play it on every...
Starting point is 01:54:49 I could re-record it right now and be able to do it again. I couldn't play the drums. I could program it, but I could do it. Yeah. And St. Anger is fucking long, brother. It's crazy. It's so long and it's... Like, even as a bit now at this point, it's like...
Starting point is 01:55:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could be 20 minutes shorter across the board. Yeah. Well, oh my God. Yeah, yeah, we'll get there. We'll get there. Where this episode is good as done, so might as well save it. Just keep going.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Yeah. Will there be a hard lord tour, musically, or comedy? You already know the answer to that. It's a big yes. Very soon. Here in Mexico City, Little Caesars is huge. Probably the second or most third or third most popular fast food brand. What are your thoughts on the Little Caesars?
Starting point is 01:55:35 You know, I think Little Caesars has just been ruined for us because of economic factors and having toured so much. But, like, if that wasn't the case, case? It's a great value, dude. Like the crazy bread? I'll die for it. Okay. I got you. That really saved my life for a few years there, the crazy bread. But I hope to never eat little scissors again. Same, but you can appreciate the value. I mean, the deal is, it's the Costco hot dog, you know?
Starting point is 01:56:09 It's like one of the greatest things a company has ever done. And, hey, we're going to make a pizza that has a. available all the time for five fucking dollars in any Kmart and yeah everywhere so that's that's badass yeah yeah so I love that both are within 500 feet of each other which do you frequent more McDonald's or in and out um I live wow I live pretty close to both if in and out delivered it would be different but I got to go there to get it you know I probably eat McDonald's more there's more variety, which often we say is like not good. The spice of life, kind of.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Yeah, but kind of is, right. But it's variety from the most reliable source ever. So it's like... The best source of food ever made. Ever made. I'm biased because I don't get it as often. So I would pick in and out. So you're actually a better answer.
Starting point is 01:57:11 I live like they are across from each other where I live. I go I order McDonald's more I go to in and out how far that makes something for me yeah McDonald's is much closer
Starting point is 01:57:26 but both are less than a mile and you you do the McDonald's I order from is truly like a hilarious distance to order from I go pick it up sometimes but it's just the time you know
Starting point is 01:57:43 but like I said in a couple weeks ago on the episode I walked over I walked there and dined in how'd that feel it was a dark day yeah it was dark dining in a McDonald's by yourself is fucking dark
Starting point is 01:57:58 everybody's looking at you like what is going on in his life this man's having a midlife crowd and I'm just wearing this yeah so they're like what the fuck and like my neighborhood is 99% Hispanic you know so there's just like so no matter where I go it's like
Starting point is 01:58:13 What is his problem? Yeah. You know? And that's fine. Well, why does he have camel pants on? Who is he murdered? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:58:19 pretty much. Which is cool. That's fine. What are your seeing? Oh, this is fun. What are some of your favorite tattoos you've seen people get for your bands? Oh,
Starting point is 01:58:32 wow. We have a friend in Arizona, Connor, who has Harmsway Army. Like, in like the collegiate font, like on his leg is pretty, You know what's crazy?
Starting point is 01:58:44 There was the guy from Arizona who got the Twitch and Tongues demo cover with the head going, the demo back cover on his head. Whoa. That's wild. That's up there. I've seen a few isolation rats in, like, the cloud, which is always cool. I don't know if I've seen any post-human ones, but I could see it very easily. Because they're currently humans still.
Starting point is 01:59:13 I got post human right here. Oh, there you go. But, yeah, that's about it. There's a lot, which is awesome. It's like one of the craziest things ever. Yeah, it's cool. A bunch of jagoffs decide on like a, and you get it tattooed on you.
Starting point is 01:59:33 The samurai, the front facing samurai head, as seen on my rolling kit here. The front facing one, Mark did as a tattoo. on somebody first. Oh. And then he was like, hey,
Starting point is 01:59:47 I had to do the front facing one. Well, like it was our artwork and he got a God's hate tattoo and asked for it to be front facing. Gotcha. So he kept the stencil so that he could finish it
Starting point is 01:59:58 and give it to us as like a thing to have. So that's pretty cool. This is good. On tour, how often you lobby dining versus crushing fast food in the van? Often lobby a nine. Pretty much as often as possible.
Starting point is 02:00:13 I love to lobby dine. Some of, he just asked the part two of this question yeah please grace us with pro tips on how to maneuver the nugs or fries plus ketchup dipping sauce when you're eating in the van
Starting point is 02:00:27 and boy do we have something for you soon that is going to seriously help that that's all I can say for now it's all we're legally allowed to say at this moment but just so you know soon your car is going to get a lot easier to eat it and if there was Thanks to hard lore.
Starting point is 02:00:47 If there was any kind of branding on it, you might already be a fan. Dare I say, friend of that branding. That's true. What is your least favorite song on Mass for Killer? How fucking dare you, sir? I pissed a tailor off really bad one time
Starting point is 02:01:05 by calling the riff after the breakdown of life is pain silly. Yeah, that's crazy. He didn't like that. I don't. I used to not get besiege the masses, the beginning. I just didn't get it. You are, okay.
Starting point is 02:01:19 Dude, I didn't dislike it. I just didn't get it. I know. Listen, listen. I'm going somewhere. Speaking. You ever watch one of them like WWE documentaries? And they cut to Michael Hayes, right?
Starting point is 02:01:33 Yeah. They cut to Michael Hayes in every single one of them. About like, it'll be like about Stone Cold Steve Austin or the Rock or the Undertaker. It'll be about like everything that's ever worked, right? And it'll cut to Michael Hayes at one point going, I didn't think it was going to work. You're Michael Hayes a lot of the time. All right, thanks.
Starting point is 02:01:59 But you always come around, you know? I did. Obviously, I came around. You always come around. I just didn't. And it's fun for me now knowing this part of you to see it happen in real time a lot of the time. Like, I'll show you something and you'll be like, huh.
Starting point is 02:02:16 Yeah. And then a week later you'd be like, dude, that is sick. I've been listening to a lot of dying fetus. You're all in now, right? It's, it's perfect. It's quite literally perfect. How? This is a great question.
Starting point is 02:02:32 Oh, the first, that comment column made along the lines of, if I'm not consuming at least three forms of media at any given moment, I want to kill myself, lives rent free in my head because it's literally me. It's a problem for me. I sit at this computer.
Starting point is 02:02:48 I watch YouTube. I play a video game. And I'm on TikTok. Every day. Every single day. I am driving to YouTube. You know? I'm not looking at the screen.
Starting point is 02:03:05 Mostly because now my Bluetooth is a little bit delayed. Oh, annoying. That's a little bit delayed. The new car? The new car, Bluetooth is a little bit delayed. That's annoying. That's disappointing. But I don't mind because they want to discourage you from using it.
Starting point is 02:03:19 Do you think that's why? Because obviously I think it's part of it Like they're there You know they're capable of doing that Yeah clever But yeah I'm the same I'm like
Starting point is 02:03:28 I will be listening to music And listening to something else And playing a game And A movie And like editing the show How many times would you say You consume on average per week
Starting point is 02:03:42 I've never had Any kind of antacid Or stomach settler Ever in my life Are you serious? I've never once partaken. That might be the craziest thing you've ever told. I've never had one and I never will.
Starting point is 02:04:03 You better knock cock, brother. I'll tell you that much right now. I'm different. Dude, I was fine. And then in early high school, I got obsessed with Arizona iced tea. Those tall boy cans, 72 milligrams of sugar each.
Starting point is 02:04:23 I'd have four a day. Because I was an idiot and I thought iced tea, you know, blah, blah, blah. I got it's water, it's healthy. Yeah, right? And it's a dollar. You can't beat that. That's the real problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:35 And then by the end of probably senior year, like the end of high school, I just started getting crazy carpet. I didn't even know what it was. So I started eating tums. Tums. Now the taste of Tums make me nauseous. See, that's the thing. I can't do a chalky texture.
Starting point is 02:04:48 So now I take Ranch and creams to you Chalk to me Gotcha, okay So those after dinner mints That like Greek and Italian places Have you hate those The like chalky mints?
Starting point is 02:04:59 I don't I'm always going to I know nothing. Your pepper mints No thank you I carry my own mints now Because it's like I know I'm good Yeah So now I take 40 milligrams
Starting point is 02:05:12 Of fametodine every day But you know what's interesting If I don't eat carbs If I do keto, don't eat it totally gone, man. No harpern. No indigestion. Something's wrong in there.
Starting point is 02:05:23 Something's. Yeah, no, no times for me. Individually, what are your top three best slash funniest moments from the last year? Funniest? What are our hardest laugh? You walking into the poll, like, I'll still put it on and it will fuck me up. Okay. Someone on the Discord made you saying, hey, with the comforter on, me getting surprised, fucks me up.
Starting point is 02:05:48 That was fun. That was us. I hope that there's bloopers from that because that was like the first time where we were like trying a scripted thing. Trying to act. You doing the I never touched my dick when I be. That laugh that you hear from me after that is so genuine. That's probably the funnyest, the single like funniest hardest laugh. Oh, what, what?
Starting point is 02:06:15 There's something that made a, that got us real good. Oh, dude, talking about memes with Dan Sealy, the N64 controller full of beans and stuff? Yeah. That's good. It's always, so that's kind of the double-edged sword is like it's always the in-person shit. Because you get the silly ha-haz and then you just, you know. We've had a couple. I mean, I love the last two hours have been.
Starting point is 02:06:42 Oh, easiest. Yeah, so great. Just unbelievable. So there's, I'm not, I'm never like comparing. but it's just like when it, what comes to mind is like, dude, I'm not joking,
Starting point is 02:06:54 you guys. When Colin walked into that pole, it was a full 180 seconds of me laughing. It was a lot. It was three minutes of me like, on the cutting room floor. Yeah. Good.
Starting point is 02:07:10 God. The idea of boat, now this is, I really wish this was on camera. The idea, Jesus Christ, the Instagram. insane.
Starting point is 02:07:19 The idea of Bo taking off his Morpheus glasses and crushing them gets me every time. Did Bo... Sorry. No, it's okay. What did you say? My only regret is that Sean wasn't filming. That you just did that to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:35 But that was a moment of pure passion. That was a real... I mean, there wasn't a bit. It was not a bit. I'm not going to... That was me saying, I'm not going to be called Morpheus on the show if we do something. You know what I mean? which of course
Starting point is 02:07:50 then I was but it was me being like I'm not gonna like let this be a thing it's such a thing now and it's such a thing it's that's my favorite part
Starting point is 02:08:02 of the Christmas episode is where we're telling that story and then I say guys and you're like guys guys yeah and then I realized that I said it in the moment I'm like guys
Starting point is 02:08:14 fuck I like that and I liked telling the story to the Uber driver after, right after that happened. Yeah. And me being like, now wouldn't you say Morpheus is like a cool guy? And she was like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:29 She's like, yeah. And I was like, see, it's cool. He didn't think so. We're almost done with Twitter here. We're going through a lot of them here. There's 52 new messages in the Discord. What do we do? What? That's too many. I could do quick ones.
Starting point is 02:08:47 Does Bo ever get naughty at shows? Like maybe a little spin kick. No, I'm never was really a spin kicker. I'm a stage diver, and I'll do a, I'll pit, but not, no spin kicks. There'll be no spin kicks from me. Somebody said their favorite part of the episode was the Disharmony Rest episode.
Starting point is 02:09:05 Favorite part of the show. Yeah. Collins shitting at waterburger. MP3. Dude, I mean, that was incredible. That was the hardest we left. Is that Farnas Fest? Yeah, that was Furnas Fest.
Starting point is 02:09:18 because you played it like randomly later on. Yeah. I would be like, what do you mean? You'd be like, here's what I mean. It was just like. It was just an explosion.
Starting point is 02:09:28 So, I remember that now. Somebody said their favorite part of the show is Colin being a top and Bo being a bottom. What do you think? You're like getting fucked in the ass. What's a song you guys think each other did really well on?
Starting point is 02:09:44 And what's a song you think each other shit the bed on? Shut up. Who said that? Gundar 420. I think you did really good on... What do you think I shit the bet on? I don't know. I don't have an answer for this.
Starting point is 02:10:02 You wouldn't know if I shit the bed on anything because you don't know what I'm playing. I wouldn't. How do you guys feel about being the quote-unquote old heads for some of us? bizarre. It doesn't bother me anymore. I'm a bit older than you.
Starting point is 02:10:17 You are. Yeah, there was a point in time where it was like, I'm not an old... You know. You kind of realized one day. I've been. around for so long that I was the youngest kid in the room for so long. You know?
Starting point is 02:10:31 And it was like I was there's some half of that was like fuck this kid. And half of that was like, no, we have to. He is the future. You know? Yeah. So like for example, Riley from Sound and Fury. Yeah. This is pretty funny.
Starting point is 02:10:51 So when I was 14 or 14. 15 years old. There was a message board called Strange Notes. Okay. Strange Notes was the B-9 board only for California. Gotcha. Yeah, we had a couple of this. It was run by Todd and Riley.
Starting point is 02:11:11 Sound and Fury records put out the violation-possessed 7-inch. Okay. When the violation-possessed 7-inch came out, in this whole era, the only way to hear these songs was to buy the 7-inch and listen to it. Yeah. Which, A, I don't have any money. B, I don't have a record player. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:34 So 14, 15-year-old me on Strange Notes, on the message board made by the guy that put the record out. Yeah. Said, like, can anybody send me this record? And I was immediately banned from the board. And young me is like, damn, I just want to hear the songs. right Riley unbans me
Starting point is 02:11:59 the guy that put the fucking record out unbans me so clearly it was Todd that banned me Riley unbans me and it's like I think it's more important to remember that a 15 year old kid is trying to hear hardcore music than it is that he's trying to download
Starting point is 02:12:17 hardcore music and like now 15 year olds are rare like they're in Oxnard, I can tell you that much. But outside of Oxnard, the median age for a new hardcore show goer or listener is like 22. Sure.
Starting point is 02:12:36 Yeah. When at the, like I don't, this was all I had, you know, at that time. It was like the only thing I cared about. So I can't imagine going through your life and then finding this.
Starting point is 02:12:47 But that's another point. Yeah. Nurturing the young listener and making them feel welcome is like, the most important thing we can do. So if you're a little ass kid starting a band, if you're 22 and starting a band, I'll try to get to it and listen to it. If you're 15, I'm listening to it immediately.
Starting point is 02:13:11 I'm going to do everything I can to help you, okay? Because I, like, I must do to somebody what Riley did for me as a kid. That's a pretty crazy thing. And that was 16 years. ago, you know, 17 years ago going on. And now, you know, still see him all the time. Yeah, it's awesome. He's still there booking an incredible, the best fest ever.
Starting point is 02:13:36 Most of the old heads when we came around aren't around anymore. Although I got a very nice DM from one who was a fan of the show. Gideon, if you're listening, thank you, sir. Who was very, everybody in Chicago was very, like, cool with us because we were all 14, I got the first hardcore show that double cross played, I got my license that day. Wow. You know?
Starting point is 02:14:01 And they had Portillo's afterwards. It was really something. So you drove to the show and then drove to Portillas? Yeah, the Portillas was like near the show. Oh, it was awesome. Huge.
Starting point is 02:14:11 Somebody asked, why are you choking Beau? Is it because you hate him? No. Because I love him. It's because I can, really. Favorite, single favorite bid is when Colin threatened Morgan Spurlock because he took away the supersized.
Starting point is 02:14:28 Fuck that motherfucker. Morgan. If you're listening, which I know you are, you piece of shit, it's on site. Yep. You ruined my life, you cossed to her. Katnij Medine. Oh, friend of the show. Favorite things about me.
Starting point is 02:14:46 Great hugs. We love, yeah, that's a, she'll break your fucking back. And she's also the best promo photographer. The best. To ever live. so somebody's mad that we haven't talked about Bojangles love Bojangles I've only had it once I would say maybe my maybe over Popeyes to me
Starting point is 02:15:10 oh in terms of chicken alone it's my namesake so I owe it this one's from Clurp and I want to I think it's important I'm bringing up the mental health question again in case it wasn't covered in the other recorded episode what is touring like for your emotional and mental health how does it impact your relationships?
Starting point is 02:15:32 What resources do you have or wish you had on the road? Clareb, this is too good a question. She's the best. We're two and a half hours in. Shit. It's terrible for your mind. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:48 That's more than anything, the reason that I'm not going to do it full time anymore. It's terrible for you. In what ways does it affect you? I think every a single, like a bad show in a city where I've had a good show. Oh. Dude.
Starting point is 02:16:13 Because then it's like, then it's like, okay. I'm ruined. Like this is my fault somehow. St. Louis wants me to kill myself. You know, that's what I'm getting out of this. it, it terribly, terribly negatively impacts your relationships, your friendships, you know, you're on a tour, your friends are all hanging out. You get home, they don't even know you anymore.
Starting point is 02:16:43 You miss so many jokes. You miss so many movies? You know many movies and games? I didn't, I never beat Red Dead Red Dead Redemption, too. I'm saying this for the first time in my life here. I'm admitting it. I never beat Red Dead Red Dead Redemption, too. and it's because I had to leave for a tour.
Starting point is 02:16:59 Shameful. I am fortunate enough to, I mean, you as well, I would imagine, if God's hate toured now, but even when Twitching was touring, you know, I'm sure Taylor is one of, is if not your best friend, you know.
Starting point is 02:17:14 Not my best friend. But, harm's way, I mean, James and Chris are my best friend. So I've been very fortunate, at least with the friend thing. Yeah. Where it's like, that's who I would be hanging out with for the most part. but relationships?
Starting point is 02:17:28 Oh my God. It's brutal. Taylor's, he's, it's a different category. Yeah, it's brother. He's my brother.
Starting point is 02:17:37 You're my brother and Brody's my brother. Those are my, those are my three brothers, you know, in terms of like the relationships I have with people where I can go, fuck you,
Starting point is 02:17:47 what's for, what are you eating tonight? Yeah. Like that's, that's, it's like I'm, I'm legitimately saying like, I hate you.
Starting point is 02:17:55 And then, 10 minutes later can be like, what's up? 20 piece. What are you doing? Yeah. Who do you think has it worse? And I think it's the latter, but I was going to say us on a tour or our partners. Partners at home.
Starting point is 02:18:11 Partners at home 100 fucking percent. Absolutely. Got to walk the dogs. They get all the bad with none of the good. Yeah. But it's like it's important to note for the partners that are listening to the show whose partners are touring. they're at work, you know, touring is work. Even if they're just sitting in the...
Starting point is 02:18:31 Even if they're sitting in the van, it's, it is emotionally and physically taxing to respond to a single text sometimes. It can be. You know what I'm saying? Did you ever, okay, not naming names or getting into any specifics or anything. I'm saying vaguely, was it ever like a story,
Starting point is 02:18:51 you're reminded of a story after you've been home for a week or two and you get the, why didn't you tell me about this when it happened. Is that ever? I don't know what. I have a hard time, I guess. I have a hard time conveying to my partner at home what I'm doing. Oh.
Starting point is 02:19:09 Because so much of the day is just like sitting, loading, sitting, playing, loading, sitting, sleeping. The way my mind works, I don't, I can't communicate 90% of the things that happened to me. Yeah. 90% of my day is gone the second it happened. Yeah. So there will be months later, I'll be like, oh, yeah, I did that. Yeah, he's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:19:32 Like, what are you talking about? And I just saw, I saw a clip of Rob Deerdeck talking about his relationship with his wife, where he's like, now I've gotten to a point where I write everything down. And I just send it to her. And I'm like, here's what I did today. You know everything. And there's part of that that's like, damn, how do I automate that in some way? I would love to automate that.
Starting point is 02:19:55 I just got into calendaring. Yeah. The Hardler calendar, baby. Let's go. So that's one of like five calendars I have. Yeah, yeah. You know? And they're all updated.
Starting point is 02:20:08 It feels good. It does, but then I'll, I miss something. And I'm like, I'm the worst person in the world. Yeah, you know. What are resources you wish you had or have on the road?
Starting point is 02:20:22 I would say, personally speaking, see of my bandmates and other people in bands who have long-term partners at home and stuff, it just seems to be patience. And that's what I run out of immediately on tour. You do. Waiting for someone to shower, waiting for someone to shit,
Starting point is 02:20:41 waiting for someone to get their food, waiting for someone to come load, whatever. I lose my mind waiting for people because I'm a very like, oh, this has to get done. Let's do it right now. Kind of guy. So that makes me kind of snippy. It does make the world of difference Like when you're in terms of like your partner at home
Starting point is 02:21:02 Yeah getting a little chop here In terms of Your partner at home being patient with you Yeah Is What like that's one of the most important things That we can ask for in this life But also it is up to you to be like
Starting point is 02:21:19 Hey I'm gonna call you at this time today Because like you're doing a lot I go, I owe that. And I need, I need expressing one's needs. And being like, I need to talk this much today. Totally, totally valid. But also like, right now, Lana, yeah. I'll be, we'll be on one of the hard lore trips or something.
Starting point is 02:21:42 And I'll text her. I'll be, I'll be worried. I'll be like, you good? Like, I'm, I'm sorry. I'm busy. She's like, I don't give a fuck, man. My KD, right? I'm dude, I just went 30 and four on shipment, bro.
Starting point is 02:21:53 I don't need to talk to you. Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a, it's been huge. She's something. Yeah. What's next? Let's see. This might be a good wrap-up question. There's, there's 50 more.
Starting point is 02:22:10 I mean, the Discord is insane. Uh-huh. So if you had to pick one band's discography to give to a friend that does not listen to hardcore, but they're open to it. They're into maybe some entry-level rock. What band would you choose? Because the answer isn't hate breed, you know? If they were already into Slayer or something, then it would be Hayprey.
Starting point is 02:22:39 What are they into? Let's just just vanilla. But they're like, I see these videos and that's really cool. And I don't want them to like it if that's how they think, you know? They're your friend, but just. Fuck them. Oh, my friend. Fuck, you do we bitch.
Starting point is 02:22:56 There's got to be. There's like the gatekeeping is good a little bit. You know, because I think it is important that we're welcoming, of course. Whether or not, it's a popular thing to talk about. There are going to be people who are going to try to get into hardcore because of Coachella. Yeah. That we would all be better off not getting involved in hardcore. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:23:16 Which I'm sure scowl and knock loose would all agree with. That's not like crazy. But that's like one out of a hundred, you know? Yes. Yeah, very. Because the other 99 are going to be there to support bands. And let me tell you, these. TikTok motherfuckers
Starting point is 02:23:31 pay by tickets they buy merch yeah we need them the whole the royal we yeah needs them because everybody benefits yeah
Starting point is 02:23:44 so the band who's discography I would show is hate break okay because there's a there's a there's a three album trajectory I can say if you like the fast parts on this one listen to this other stuff
Starting point is 02:23:58 if you like the breakdown on this one, listen to this other stuff. Fair enough. There's a, there's a, there's a, there's a roadmap from all from satisfaction, perseverance, rise brutality to everything I think is worth anyone's time. You know, I can get to scowl from hate breed. Yeah. In, in with one thing in between, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Like the like the like six degrees of Kevin Bacon. I can get a one degree of hate breed with any hardcore man. Okay. You think so? You think that's true?
Starting point is 02:24:30 100%. Try me. Okay. Mental. Hate breed is from Connecticut. About two hours from Boston. I stand corrected. Come on. What can I say?
Starting point is 02:24:53 Yeah. You didn't say I couldn't use geography. I really didn't. I really did not. What's the ban you would pick? Honestly, and this is not me blow and smoke. I think the proof is just kind of in the pudding. I think knocked loose. it's heavy, it's catchy.
Starting point is 02:25:15 Brian's vocals are pretty distinct. They've gotten plenty. The proof is in the pudding in the sense that like they've gotten probably a few thousand people into hardcore just by people watching them. If I had to choose an older band, let's say. Someone who's not actively already doing that. Actively. But I mean, hey, but I mean, hey, they.
Starting point is 02:25:41 They don't need you to show them that. Like they heard knock loose and they were like, show me a thing. Okay, valid. What's the thing? Yeah. I would probably go with more of a punk thing just because of my vibe. That's not what you sit and listen to though, you know?
Starting point is 02:26:08 Now it isn't, but it's what got me here. So what would it be? Probably Chromex. Oh. I mean, that's still, they still get apocalypse now, you know? Yeah, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's a great answer, honestly. Do you like the fast stuff?
Starting point is 02:26:26 Okay, here's this record. Do you like the crossover stuff? Here's this record. Do you like the actual heavy, scary? Here's this. Yeah, no, it's the same ideals, you know. Those, the same principles exist except for, you know, there's more of the singing. So you can go, oh, if this is, if you like this,
Starting point is 02:26:42 right. Check out scowl. You know. There's chromax to scow. pipeline is one one beat away, you know? Haypreed's from Connecticut. Hey, breed, scowl, promax.
Starting point is 02:26:56 All one thing. Done. What do you say? We got a billion. Why don't you scroll through? And just if one pops out of you, you go, oh, man, that's good. Okay. Oh, now they're arguing about pizza.
Starting point is 02:27:10 So maybe the, keep the arguments out of the goddamn, when will Hardler have a fast food collab? Not soon enough, motherfucker. Yeah, straight up. Oh, here's, oh, Colin, this is, this is literally, this is what I want. Yeah. Master Killer Tier video game original soundtrack.
Starting point is 02:27:35 Oh my God. Bloodborne, Skyrim. I'm giving the same rules here, okay? Okay. Same rules I would to Master Killer. Skyrim is an excellent answer. Oh, duh. Oh, la.
Starting point is 02:28:04 He do. He body. Yeah, that's insane. Soundtrack. Full, like the full thing. Dark Souls 3. Demon Souls. That's probably it.
Starting point is 02:28:27 I feel like that's a... I would probably have to throw Red Dead redemption. Great soundtrack in there. But you don't, like, could you hum part of it or to me right now? No. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:28:42 Tusha. I could tell you, you could pick a boss from Bloodborn and I could tell you how they're music goes. Oh, dude, well then Halo. Yeah. No, absolutely. But that's again, yeah,
Starting point is 02:28:53 no, that's a great pick. Which one? Commentable, first one. I think two is the better. You think that's the better one? Yeah. I just think when you would, load up, turn on your Xbox and you're
Starting point is 02:29:05 I'm still to this day, the only person to sing the Halo theme in the Sound City Echo Chamber. I that. That is very Hans Zimmer. It is. It's very Zimmer-esque. He loves going, he loves palm muting a piano. Yeah, dude, yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:33 It does. Well, that's it. was the rest of the messages were like arguing. Awesome. So it's good. Thank you all for joining us for this very special first anniversary Q&A. Can you believe it? No, man.
Starting point is 02:29:48 To this, I never will. I can't wait for the second year birthday Q&A. We got some fun episodes plan. We got a good stuff plan. We got tied down coming up. Got tied down. We got coming up on the slate and the show. You hear me out.
Starting point is 02:30:05 ready we got best breakdowns ever volume two had to do it we got large frederickson coming up oh my god we got jeremy bolem too shah mori coming up we got fury of five coming up this is going to be an incredible month and phoenix we might have we were supposed to have dying fetus they billed last week but we might have them still but either way yeah that's uh that's a great month coming and this is a procedurally generated show where the things are going to happen every week in our lives where you just blew my mind it is it really is
Starting point is 02:30:42 there's always going to be more oh we got a real fun one too the best best eps in seven inches of all time that one's great best band names of all time best band names of all time ranking artwork of bands discographies because I want to do that with Metallica and then I realized why something we should do
Starting point is 02:31:01 fast food like tier list like an actual like tier maker a real deal tier maker of all fast food we could do that
Starting point is 02:31:11 easy I go into I turn into little bow love it love when you little bow but this was a very
Starting point is 02:31:18 long fun time for both of us we shot the shit for like 20 minutes before we started yeah it's badass that's the way
Starting point is 02:31:25 that's the way it should be no I'm saying even before we like clap oh yeah we've been here I've been sitting here all day. So thank you so much for joining us.
Starting point is 02:31:35 We love you so much. Thank you. This is the I mean, this first year was unbelievable. The first year of a pod. Come on. Oh my God. And it is truly, this is not hyperbole. Like, Danny, the things you're seeing and the growth and whatever is because you're listening
Starting point is 02:31:51 to it. Yeah. And telling friends. It has nothing to do with us. Speed was here the other day. Josh went into Carhart and said that dude was watching the show. So hey, shout out Carhart. Carhart, man. And Wicker Park. I'll be in there.
Starting point is 02:32:05 Work in progress or just car? No, just standard, but you know. Blue collar pot, dude. Dude, black collar. Black collar goth workers. That's who we are and that's who I am and that's who I care about. Thank you so much. We love you.
Starting point is 02:32:23 Bye. We'll see you next week. Bye.

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