HardLore - One Year Anniversary Special Q&A
Episode Date: April 20, 2023Celebrate HardLore's first birthday with this very special One Year Anniversary episode! In this 2+ our lore-filled Q&A, see special HardLore birthday messages from friends of the show before Colin a...nd Bo reflect on the first year of HardLore and answer YOUR questions from Twitter, Instagram, and the HardLore Discord. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef This episode is brought to you by ATHLETIC GREENS! Try AG1 at athleticgreens.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1. Join WHATNOT with our special little link to get $15 off your first purchase. Get ready for the first ever Hardlore live auction TOMORROW, March 24th at 8:30 PM EST: https://www.whatnot.com/invite/hardlore Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe Check out our merch at https://knotfest.com/store/?view=hard... Find all of our videos at https://knot1.co/3vWXsbx #HardLore HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER For sponsorship opportunities, email us! info@hardlorepod.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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And now some special anniversary messages from Friends of the Show.
Happy birthday hardlore podcast.
Always an enjoyable listen, except for the little fact that Bo is not actually from Chicago.
He's from the suburbs.
In fact, his nickname in high school is the suburban Bonando.
I don't know what it's like to grow up in Winnetka.
Super rich kids.
Anyway, happy birthday.
Congratulations, Harle.
on the one-year anniversary.
It's awesome to see one of the greatest tag teams
in hardcore history represented
on that platform.
And of course, I mean myself and Colin Young,
f*** you, Bo, number one in the middle of bow,
each shit, bye.
Hey, what's up, everybody?
I just want to wish Hardlore a happy one-year anniversary.
I want to say my biggest critique,
is this show about fucking fast food
or is it about fucking music?
Jesus Christ.
Happy one year to Hardlore.
up to Bo, who didn't take me to get pizza in Chicago when I was there and calling through through a
tornado to get me pizza. Happy birthday. Happy one year anniversary to the Hard Lord podcast. Thank you guys
for some good laughs, some good stories, some good guests. We need more dying breed talk.
We need acknowledgement of zero tolerance. We need acknowledgement of war zone. Jordan, the fucking GOD.
He is here with us. Happy one year, boys. And we will, uh,
Listen, we'll be listening to more soon.
What, what's this for?
One year?
Both f***s fish.
Alec, one year of hard lore.
So, uh, what do you think of the show?
I love the show.
Just wait till I finish the question.
So, Alec, one year of hard lore.
Where do you think of the show?
I love the show.
Hey, this is Lars Berdrickson from all kinds of bands.
And I want to wish, uh, Hardlora, a very happy anniversary.
I don't know what the anniversary's for.
I was just told to do this by Colin.
And obviously, he also told me to talk shit about Bo.
But the only Bobo I know is the guy from a veil.
So unless this bow that you have, Colin, dances, I could give two f***ks.
So either way, happy anniversary for, I don't know how many years.
I'm just following orders later.
Hello, welcome.
Happy birthday to Hardlore from Hardlore.
It's Hardlore time.
What do we not?
We got us.
We got hardball.
One year, Bo.
How are you?
I'm doing really well.
Made in a little, little keto cheesecake thanks to factor foods.
Not sponsored, just checking it out.
This is a nothing bun cake.
My wife got me to celebrate.
It's for 14 people.
About halfway done.
Mm-hmm.
Big nothing bun cake's guy.
What flavor is that?
Confetti.
Confetti.
Come on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm with you.
apologies to the listeners with mesophonia.
What a year it's been, huh?
How about it?
I can't believe it.
I was thinking, is this the 51st episode?
I guess.
I think it is because I believe we missed one.
So it actually checks out.
Like if you do the math, it's kind of crazy.
That out of a year we missed one.
Yeah, we did good.
I am so tired.
I'm tired of you.
I'm tired of sleep.
No, but more so, do you feel fulfilled?
Do you feel fulfilled from this show?
I'm going through a weird transitional period.
Am I like, yes, sir, I do.
But yeah, are you kidding?
It's amazing.
I walked outside of my apartment today.
There's construction on the street.
There's a crane on the street.
Somebody slapped a hard lured bumper sticker on it.
I swear on my cats, it wasn't me.
On your own street.
So it's either one of my friends, which is kind of unlikely or just a pure coincidence.
Your friends are not doing that.
They don't.
Yeah, exactly.
They didn't buy the box.
They're not that supportive.
Exactly.
It's crazy.
You know, there's like, there's like landmark moments.
There's, there's trackable moments in a, in a young man or woman's life.
It's like, okay, this is, this happened, therefore this is happening to me.
Yeah.
You know?
Like, I heard.
I heard Grimlock, therefore I like hardcore.
I play hardcore.
I watch Star Wars, therefore I like movies.
This is like one of those.
This show is one of those things for both of us, you know?
Explain.
We're no longer guy from band.
Oh, yeah.
Most places I go now, somebody wants to talk about something that I do.
It's this.
Yeah.
So I'm a creative fraud, but an incredible entertainer.
Welcome to the club, brother.
Great to have you.
Creatively bankrupt, comedically brilliant, you know?
Morally depraved.
No, I'm morals.
I'm straight.
You know?
Yeah.
Moral's good.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's weird.
Are you happy?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm happy.
I'm a little bored.
I'm just bored
I got nothing to do
because you don't have a job
I don't know the job
I go to the gym
You want to start helping me more
With the show
How often?
You son of a bitch
That was so dirty
You asked me
Probably three times a week
Like please
Like what do I do
And it's just there's no
There's no
There's little
Everything that I have to do
For the show
Are things I literally can't delegate
You know
Yeah I know
I can't
I can't believe you just did that to me.
Live.
They know it's a joke, right?
I would like to know
some of your highlights.
Hot lore is
one of the great joys
of my life.
The Furness Fass to Hauntler.
Yeah. And then the recap episode,
which I told you I watched like the second half
of the other night, is like
so fun.
Yeah, it's a, that's a life.
That's another life milestone.
It's like, oh, I'm a ghost hunter.
I am.
I do that now.
I did it once, therefore I am one.
Yeah.
I hope that one day that's all we're doing.
Straight up.
Haunting and loring.
Yeah.
With friends.
Yeah, absolutely.
Just bringing up a pal, a Brittany Miller with us, you know, of sorts,
into a haunted place.
With a, with a corn dog.
With a corn, or two.
or yeah um that was cool i remember um because the first thing we did in person was sound
and fury and that seemed sort of like oh well this makes sense yeah because it's sound infuri it's like
purely a hardcore thing we knew ever i mean i didn't there was no work that needed to be done in terms
of like wrangling bands for yeah yeah because it was just texting a guy yeah or something and then
furnace fest was like the next thing and it was very like well this is a little outside of our wheelhouse
And then it was like, oh, hey, we can kind of try to make content.
However.
Just doing whatever.
Now, the mini interviews give me the most stress of like anything.
Really?
Yeah.
I wish I could do that.
Really?
Yeah.
If I could, I swear to God, I would.
However, I will say that everything that you do,
you're digging a deeper hole because it becomes the style of,
of like kind of our branding.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So you're just going to.
It sucks, dude.
It's so much work.
It takes so long.
A video editor that had to,
like if we hired a video editor that wasn't me,
they would be rich with what it fucking cost.
Like the hourly rate,
if somebody was getting an hourly rate to do what I'm doing,
they'd be living next door to Jerry Seinfeld or something.
So the people know.
How long does a two-hour episode generally take?
It takes probably 16 hours.
For one episode?
Yeah.
Really?
I genuinely didn't know that.
Compiling, mixing audio, editing, exporting, exporting,
which can take like six hours on its own.
Okay.
And I have to just stand by and make sure my computer doesn't fucking shut off.
and then going back in to make a clip
and then like a clip or two the next day
that's that's a whole
that's an entirely separate task
the real that you see
is like the hardest part of doing the show
because it's like I got a
I have to
I have to pick out of two hours
of three hours of stuff
60 seconds that's going to sell
motherfuckers on this whole damn show
I
I hope you end this with a gun loaded.
Whatever sentence this is starting.
I basically work two hours a week.
And I sleep until about 11 at the gym,
cooked food, play video games.
And that's how the show is made.
So highlights, ups and down.
Yeah, I think the justice.
episode. No, you know what? Fast food?
The Great Food debate?
Oh, that was kind of when we were like, wait.
That was the one where we started showing
that to be able to be like, here's what we figured out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because we were we hit our stride.
Yeah, just this episode was
two hours of like Stern
at Howard Stern-esque audio programming
that just never lulled or stopped.
That was when a lot of people checked out the show,
I think.
do you have a favorite
like a number one
besides hongler
like one favorite episode
yeah let's let's keep it to a guest
because like the recaps are too easy to say
oh the guests yeah
I think um
I really liked jay mind force
jay mind force episode
was it felt like
just kind of having a third host
yeah yeah he was so such a natural
because he was so familiar with the show
it really lent itself to just making the show better
instead of us having to like explain the bits and the segments
and the stuff, you just knew.
That's a great episode.
Maddie is our biggest episode now.
That was personally very big for me.
It was very fun.
And then of course, Justin.
Come on, dude.
That one is, that's the one.
I'm still getting texts about the one, that one, you know?
Really?
Like people like peripherally in my life being like,
just checked out the Jostal one.
That was sick.
And I think it was sick.
I think it was.
I learned a lot.
So I can only imagine how other people felt.
And we barely got through two records.
Dude.
It took 45 minutes to get down to the knife.
That was.
That's the crazy thing.
It was amazing.
The man is dense with facts and knowledge and dates and lineups.
Yeah.
And you,
so we went to the Discord today for questions, right?
Which is a new thing for us.
Oh, also, we have a funny little ad to do.
I'm going to do this aside from the ad section.
Okay.
There's a tour right now that just got announced.
What are we got?
With death clock and baby metal.
Oh, you dude.
Fuck yeah.
And tickets are on sale now.
They want us, they want us to let you know the tickets for the death clock baby metal tour are on sale now.
No kidding.
You ever hear that Gimme Chocolate song?
A lemon chocolate, chocolate.
I don't know what she's saying, but I've never agreed with anything more.
Do you know the song Karate?
Because that song's actually like heavy.
Yeah, I like the chocolate one much more.
I think that's their master killer person.
You know, is the Gimme Chocolate song.
Yeah, that's fun.
Huh?
Yeah, so they want us to tell you tickets are on sale now.
Anyway, we ask people for questions as well as their favorite moments of the show.
So hopefully most people provided that along with their questions.
You want to start with the, with you, should we, are we kicking off Q&A?
What are your, what are your favorite moments from the show?
Honestly, it's a lot of this shit that we don't really film, but just like the, the, you know, being able to, like, go with a friend and do stuff that's, like, doing well is pretty awesome.
Pretty life-changing kind of a thing, you know?
Just think, like, like, simple things, like flying and getting a hotel.
Yeah.
As a band is so expensive and stressful.
So stressful.
And we just don't have to worry about it.
And it's like fun.
It's still exciting.
I'm not getting sick anymore.
But every time I say that,
do you know that viral dude or the guy's like,
I'm not gay no more?
Of course.
I was,
what does he say?
I'm delivered.
I am delivered.
I feel like I need to cut that in every time I say.
I'm not sick no more.
I'm not sick no more.
I want no more.
Yeah.
So it's just been like really easy and fun.
LDB was a lot of fun.
Highlights definitely.
Dude, I think the single coolest moment
was hauntler, the very first one
when the dude recognized us, like candidly.
Oh yeah, that was.
Because that was, we were getting like
a thousand a week at that point.
Yeah, that was nothing.
That was super early on.
so that was nice
that was the first time where I was like
me? That was really fun
yeah that was really fun
and just uh I don't know
it's been everybody's been so nice
yeah
I read all that I can change that
I mean I can be meaner
they know
one thing I need to say is people
some people don't
understand that the Brody thing
is a bit
Brody
I gotta say something about that
Listen
I get to be mean to Bo
Brody gets to be mean to Boe
8 to 12 other people
Get to be mean to Bo
You motherfuckers
Don't you lay a finger on him emotionally
We're coming for you okay
He's our target
He's your hero
Okay
People yeah there's definitely some confusion I think
This is not a communal bit
It's ours.
It's our pit.
You leave this man alone.
Roast me if you must, John, you fucking
fuck and fuck.
But leave Boa alone, basically.
That's what I'm saying.
But overall, like, very little criticisms.
Some of the,
some of the, like, criticism I've ever seen is, like,
us not being able to tell full stories
and have to, like, neuter stories.
And it's like, yeah.
Yeah, I don't want to get killed.
Sorry.
I don't want to get beat up because,
because, like, told some story.
You can't connect them.
fucking dots to, you weirdo.
Or get somebody
in legal jeopardy.
Yeah, it's just crazy.
They're like, can we, can we
pay extra for the unbleeped version?
No, it's illegal.
Let's do some,
some Cues and A's. All right.
Here's a really good one. Let's get to the meat of the episode.
Why? So funny.
That's a great question.
Shout out to our
buddy Andrew Morrissey, who
I guess, I mean, I'm not going through
and finding fucking clips of the whole
show. I won't do it. No. No.
I won't do it, but there's a story
we told very early on.
Why don't you take it away, Bo?
We were in Detroit, Michigan.
It was a cold
night, and there was a manhole
cover that was just pour in steam.
Ninja turtles level
steep.
And Dark Knight had just come out
within like the past two years
maybe.
Andrew Rand jumped in front of it.
Jumped into the steam.
and said, first he said, hey guys, look, and then, you know, jumped into the steam.
Who am I?
Yeah, and then, why so funny?
And it was, he didn't.
And other famous Andrew misquotes include ordering in and out monster style,
diving into a pool and saying, I'm James Bourne.
And so on and so forth.
I got to get, I got to get Emily to start making us like a list of.
Yeah, we need a list.
I'm sure they happen every day.
And when he does one now, he knows and he looks and he goes, don't.
Don't.
Don't.
Okay.
First actual question.
This is definitely for you.
And I think it's a great question.
Can you be too naughty in the pit?
Like, yeah.
I knew, yeah, of course.
Like if you're purposely, I've never been to.
But like if you're purposefully, okay, I have two, we've said this before, but I have two
actual qualms with
anything. It can be like
being on stage with your phone. I know
throwing shit, whatever. If you're
making the show about you
yeah, not audience, but
singularly you because I'll
look how crazy I am. Yeah.
Like get fucked. Like that sucks. That's just
stupid. Obviously people
would mash with machetes and shit. Like
that's happened. Yeah.
That's too naughty. We played the
tower. You ever played the tower outside of
Cleveland? Probably.
believe it was Cleveland, not Columbus, but it was definitely in Ohio. I think it's Cleveland.
And there was like a mattress, part of the wall and fireworks and marbles on the floor.
That's fun.
Yeah.
Like that's fun.
And it was the entire room just being rowdy.
So it was agreed upon.
It was agreed upon.
It was like the way that that place went for sure.
Totally cool.
I'm beyond cool with that.
I would say I am begging for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But if you're purposefully like, I don't know.
You know.
No, other than, other than like a weapon that would kill a guy or girl.
Yeah.
No.
I mean, there was a riot extravaganza that was stopped because it was certainly too naughty.
That was pretty crazy.
I was watching that.
you know so even even from a band standpoint of like go nuts not that nuts
it's like kind of the vibe um so it's certainly possible i think as long as people it's
moshing you know i don't think moshing actual moshing can be too naughty okay that's my stance
okay so once you cease the moshing the dancing you know and you're doing something else maybe
Do you have opinions on the term or act of crowd killing?
I think it's awesome.
One of the best things.
Period.
If there's a part that makes someone turn around
and just start swinging fists at people.
Yeah.
It's a good part.
It's a great part.
It's a testament to the part more so than anything.
I mean, think about that iconic picture of sob,
spinning, spin kicking a dude in the face.
Well, yeah, would that be cooler if there was no guy there
to receive the foot to the face?
Definitely not.
Be a less cool picture.
Be a way less cool.
It is what it is, man.
And it is cool.
When are you guys touring the UK,
ambiguous question, I don't know.
Who's you guys?
Yeah, exactly.
I don't know.
Let's see.
Somebody make me an office.
Yeah, seriously.
You make us, you get us there?
I'm going to come.
Straight out.
Spink in a graveyard is a top moment.
Also, now you know, I don't,
he typed it kind of crazy.
You know I don't touch my penis when I pee
as a highlight.
Yes.
How do you do long division?
Colin?
Oh, long?
Long, baby.
Couldn't tell you.
Really?
Which one is long division?
Long division is just when you do it,
when you just,
oh.
785 divided by 14.
Oh, I would divide it by 10 first and then.
Oh, really?
I'm divided by four, you know.
That adds up for sure.
When Collins said soda is the best part of the meal, dude's a genius.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a long, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, everybody should just kind of eat this band's in no hail in it.
Is that Dr. Pepper or Coke Zero?
That's a Dr. Pepper zero.
I mean, like eating without.
It's a carbonated beverage.
Painful.
It's so fucking miserable.
It's suffering.
Oh, you want to know something?
Oh, do I have a tragedy for you?
Went to a Taco Bell yesterday in the drive-thru.
There's a natural fry sign out of natural fries.
Which is just kind of like, all right, but you go months without them.
So whatever.
Yeah.
I mean, the demand was probably high.
So you're like, oh, good for you.
Okay.
That means.
And then I ordered my food, got to the pop.
No Baja.
Yeah.
No Baja zero.
No diet.
No diet do is what?
What is there left?
Mountain Dew.
Did you do that?
I had diesel.
You had heavy dew?
Dude.
That's ice cream.
What else is there?
That's dessert.
What else do they have?
Oh my God.
I would rather drink a diet Pepsi.
The full Mountain Dew.
Dude, if you look at the carbs on, I'm telling you,
I say this.
as a joke all the time, but like a bowl of spaghetti and a mountain dew about the same.
Should we check?
I don't know how we would do that, Matt.
Well, 20 ounce mountain dew carbs is 78 grams.
Yes.
Of net carbs.
And what's a bowl of spaghetti?
Like a hundred.
Serving size of spaghetti.
What am I looking for?
Carbs, nutrition facts.
Dude, one cup of serving a cooked spaghetti containing between 37, 43 grams.
So it means two cups is a mountain dew.
You thought I was joking.
It's literally a bowl of spaghetti is drinking a mountain dew.
And you had the large, which is like 32 hours.
You know I had a large.
I had.
So you had a what's called a heaping bowl of spaghetti.
I really did.
I had the family size for me.
So don't.
This is.
And, you know,
people ask me for weight loss tips and shit all the time.
just stop drinking full sugar soda and you can basically do anything else in your life.
That's that is the only line I won't cross.
Tie from the show.
I've seen you cross it.
When?
I've seen you have regular.
No, you have not.
Okay.
I'm going to remember this moment.
I don't have it cataloged, but I, you, you, I'm telling you, I haven't had a regular soda on purpose in six years.
Okay.
Ty told me that you like change,
Thai,
I front of the show,
told me that you like changed his
outlook on life
when you said,
I'll work as hard as I have to in the gym
so that I can eat whatever I want.
Absolutely.
That's a beautiful.
Which is like,
like if you tell a personal trainer of that,
they'll be like,
I can't have you as a client.
Yeah,
it's the opposite of what you.
You'll be fired.
You'll be reversed hired as a,
they'll say I don't want your money.
I quit as your employer.
because like lifting to eat is like the worst thing you can do.
But once you get to the maintenance mode, who cares?
And once you stop giving a fuck about, I'm not competing in competitions.
I just want to feel good and have a fun life.
Just want to feel good, look good, eat good.
Fun life.
Balance.
This is a funny one because I FaceTime to you about this today.
And I swear on my cats, I did not.
read this. When are we getting
a live play through of the Hardlore theme?
We almost did it today. We almost did it to intro the episode.
Yeah, we did. I think we finished the song.
Yeah. Finish a full song, have some cool guest vocals.
Do a two minutes to the late night thing.
Do a full on thing and then
and then we can just play. Yeah.
What fest do you guys most want to do interviews at next?
Japan. Oh yeah, yeah.
like that's like a Godzilla
Fest in Japan probably
I mean blood acts would be amazing like any
Blacks would be good any actual thing
Bo crap programming his echo to call
Colin a bastard man still kills me
they'll still do it it's just not hooked up right now
but it's it also worked about 40% of the time
yeah awful
I'm a terrible programmer
oh this is a great question
from Dwayne at sundown
very active in the Discord server
What does making it, quote unquote, making it in the music scene mean to you guys, he's shoveling a bump cake into his hole right now.
It was literal pile.
Making it?
Yeah.
What does making it mean?
I have a rather serious answer for that.
Beautiful.
Man, this is a tough one.
It was a heavy one.
I got a message on Facebook like 10 years ago probably, maybe nine.
because in love there's no law was out.
And it was from like an EMT driver
who said that somebody who was gay
tried to kill themselves.
Like after coming out to their parents.
Yeah.
And like during the EMT ride,
bonded with them by showing them in love there's no law.
And like that was enough for them to like have a conversation
and then like they were totally fine.
and like that was that was i don't know i can't i'll just cry if i start talking too much so like i don't
want to um but that was the moment where i was like i think i did something here you know wow
like a song that in my mind is like okay this is a this is a song yeah i'm writing a song i'm not
going i'm not fucking going to change the world with a hardcore song you know but i if i i it affected
one person in a way that was like,
I'm not going to say life saving,
because obviously that didn't happen,
but like positively in a dark moment for them.
Wow.
And that was where it was like,
I could never write music again
and be fine after just reading that.
That's a beautiful story.
Excellent answer.
Thank you.
Mine was like, I don't have to worry about bills,
which hasn't happened yet.
Yeah, that's impossible.
Simply one.
There's like eight bands that can do that amongst our peers.
And your boy loves to shop.
I'll tell you what.
Yeah, absolutely.
I just can't stop.
Well, you got a good credit card?
I'm about to get a good credit card.
I know,
I know you got a real nice one.
I have the Amazon one, which.
Amazon one is pretty good.
I wish the points were better, you know?
Yeah, I know.
I don't know.
Sometimes I get enough points to pay the fucking Amazon Prime.
Yeah, the monthly membership.
I just got, I got an MX, MX gold.
Which is not, you don't have to like do anything crazy to qualify for that.
Yeah.
But this is my first real card with points.
Like real points.
Oh, okay.
4X for restaurants, dude.
I'm at a restaurant two, three times a day.
Got so many points.
you wouldn't believe it.
The amount of points I've accrued in two weeks
rivals my McDonald's app.
No.
I could probably book a flight to Japan
for free
from the points I've made in two weeks
of having this credit card.
Yeah, the Amazon one is like my go-to
and then I have a Chase Sapphire is like my...
I got a Sapphire too.
I never got you. You know what? The sign-up reward is so crazy.
And also you used to get into the like lounge, like the United Lounge or American Lounge or something at airports.
With Sapphire?
Yeah, used to.
Not anymore.
Oh, you know anymore?
I don't believe so.
Because American made their own those fucking cheap bastards.
Who has the better biceps, Bo or Colin?
I will tell you one thing.
Come on.
What?
That picture I took of you in Louisville.
Gambling?
Dude.
Your arm looks insane in that picture.
I was getting a crazy pump from hitting the button.
And that's what, that's all it was.
It was, it was, it was a smoke and mirrors.
But the answer's obvious.
It's bow.
I've been fucking, I'm huge now.
You're in the gym.
What's your, what's your, uh, what's your, uh, what's your routine?
What's your split like?
Um, Mondays are.
So today was dead, like deadlifts.
So back.
Wow.
Did you just do deadlifts or did you do?
I know I did deadlifts.
I know what's whole, but I don't know the answer.
Like I don't know what mine is, but I know what that means.
Um, so I did deadlifts and like, I think leg press and lat pull down.
That pull down.
And rose.
Okay.
James made me a very simple, very big.
James, okay, James gave you pro.
Wednesdays are like triceps, um, hamstrings, I think.
And then Fridays are biceps, shoulders.
Whatever.
The fun day.
Shoulder day is my favorite.
Oh, it's the best.
You get that one vein going and you just,
see, I don't have the vein.
You see if you can look at me, you'll see.
It's because you drank a full sugar soda at seven and a half years ago.
Honestly, sugar, there's like, if you drink,
if you carb deprive and then have like a gnarly carb,
you look fucking crazy.
When I,
when I was full on keto,
I,
repulches have sounds going on right now.
When I was full,
full on keto and I would like have like a little,
cheat meal the next day I looked so
good. Yeah. It's a thing.
You just like...
And I have no vascularity
whatsoever. Maybe it's because I'm like
body fat or whatever.
Too fat to be there.
Favorite moments, Bo realizing Phoenix
is a food cheat code and still
underselling. Does
March of the pigs belong to the greatest
breakdown list? What?
I don't know what either of those things
mean. I'm sorry. Keep scrolling.
Yeah, you lost me.
Master killer of all movies.
That's a great question.
One?
I mean, that's what Master Killer means, I guess.
It's Silence of Lames.
Really?
Yeah, it is.
Think about it.
I didn't know.
I love the movie.
I just didn't know you were a particular...
And I'm being pretty objective here, I think.
Script, performances, direction, cinematography.
It looks pretty good.
It looks great for the era.
The score is a little janky.
The score is fine.
but like it was one of the first
to win like an Oscar in all of its categories or whatever
oh okay you know I would probably say
like the godfather or something that's a little
kind of obvious um little what would you rather watch right now
the godfather or silence the land honestly the guy I just watched silence the land like
two weeks ago okay we'll see yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
weeks ago you were like I'm gonna put silence the movie is incredible it's perfect
do you have a favorite part
the way, dude, the fake out
when Clarice is actually
at the house at the end.
And the,
and the FBI's rating
and when Crawford goes,
Starling.
And like,
you realize what's going on.
Dude,
and then,
oh, wait.
Oh,
was she a great,
that person?
I mean,
that's the best part of them.
She's just fucking,
dude,
she's true to Texas season four.
Oh,
really.
It's Jody.
Woo.
Okay.
Damn.
Dude, season two was such a letdown for me.
I never, I never saw it.
Yeah, don't.
I skipped a three, but I heard it's good, so.
It's not.
It isn't.
I'm going to like it to spite you, I think.
I think you will too, but that's just because you're full of shit.
That's just me.
But at the end of the very first episode, I'm not going to spoil anything, but there's like a bit of an occult thing.
And you're like, here we go.
Here we go, baby, we're back.
And then it's just, like, never addressed.
I saw Beau was afraid last night.
Yeah, what'd you think?
Oh, I saw what you thought.
I think it rocks.
Yeah.
But I can, if somebody tells me it's the worst movie they've ever seen, you might.
I would say, I could see that.
I saw Redfield on Saturday.
I saw that too.
What did you think?
I loved it.
You loved it?
Yeah, I had a great time.
Oh, man.
I liked how 90 minutes it was, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was like 89 sharp, dude.
Exposition.
It feels like a.
Dude, why are parts of it like slapstick?
Like Aquafino, there's a scene where Aquafino is like walking away in the hallway and turning
around. Yeah, she keeps turning around. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, it's like,
it felt like airplane for a second. And then it goes back to being kind of self-serious.
Kind of, yeah, yeah. Terrible movie. Oh, you hated it. Oh, it's awful. Incredible action.
Nick Kay just kills it in every scene. It's a terrible movie. But I think it's a like self-aware
kind of terrible.
Yeah.
Like can't be
Cold classic
type terrible.
Absolutely.
Why would they
not put that out
in like October?
I mean,
that's ridiculous,
of course.
There's a part
towards the,
I forget what it is,
we'll get back on track
but where he really
lets a Nick Cage-ism out
where he like,
he says,
I think he's gonna say
hell Satan
and he goes like,
hail!
It's like,
I fucking die,
dude.
I had a great time.
It was,
I could have used,
more violence and a little more Nick Cage
and a little less like, I just care
about my sister. Yeah. But I
have blessed. Yeah, it was fun.
I'm just going to come out and say
it. I like Aquafina.
She was, dude,
I thought she was very funny. I like her.
Okay. Sue me.
I think she's great.
Sorry.
Odds. CN Punk shows up as
a guest. It's not zero.
We might hear from him later
in this episode.
Dream.
You think I'm joking, but we'll see.
Dream tour lineup with retired or past, retired slash past bands and modern band.
So just like book a dream tour.
Let's make it a four band tour.
Like a tour I want to see.
That you want to see that you're not on.
Can I use dead guys?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Typo.
Yep.
Dying breed.
Marauder Master Killer set under Dying Breed.
For some reason.
I didn't book.
I wasn't the agent.
I'm just going.
Yeah, yeah.
He didn't promote.
I didn't do it.
Who's opening?
A modern band has to open.
Metallica.
Modern band.
What modern band would fit on that, you know?
I just told me.
I have no idea.
Something witchy.
Like Ingrown.
Ingrown can open.
Oh, Ingrown.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
Yeah.
Mine would be Metallica headlining.
I love it.
Typo is direct support.
It's a good tour for sure.
Dying B.
Chaos AD era
Sepul Toro with everybody.
Wow. Wow.
Andreas, everybody.
And opening the misfits.
No modern man.
No.
Fuck them.
They said modern band
in the question.
No, it says, it said, oh, it did say it.
It says Dream Tour lineup with
retired slash past bands and modern bands.
All right.
So kick the fucking.
misfits off.
Misfits are off.
And put in grown off.
Put in grown up.
Dead body.
Nice.
I almost did a spit take as a bit and then I realize
everything I own is in front of me.
My life depends on these
eight items here,
so I can't do a spit take ever, sadly.
Worst band you've toured with,
played a show with,
or not power.
I have a diplomatic answer for this.
So if you want me to take it away,
I will.
Could you?
Yeah.
So we did a tour with
At the Gates
The Haunted and Decapitated
Decapitated.
Decapitated
the actual guys in the band
and their sound guy
delightful.
Super nice,
very friendly,
just what I was like very professional.
They had a tour manager
and a fill-in bass player
whose names I don't remember
whose bands I don't remember
like nothing.
Perfect.
Who were the...
Some of the worst people I've ever encountered.
The base player was just kind of like annoying,
but he was like fine, but he was just like,
oh, I got this eight string.
Blah, like, just like, please shut up.
The TM for Decaptated was so...
We had on our rider X amount of Red Bull.
That's all we ever asked for.
It's like Diet Coke Water Red Bull.
Cheese its...
Sugar-free Red Bull.
water. It's the whole, any band I'm ever in,
that's the whole rider. Like stage towels.
If you can't, please. Oh, that'd be great.
That's a problem. I wouldn't go. I know
better.
You know?
So, Chris,
we were, we were in Texas,
I think, and Chris was enjoying a Red Bull.
And this guy was like, hey, you know,
that's for all of us. And the
tour manager, the
chick who had toured with Weird Al. Yeah.
Was like up there with us.
and you know what I got to do.
I know you can hear it.
You're turning the fucking...
If you don't change this motherfucker's...
I got to...
I'm just going to turn it off from him.
I'm gonna have to kill you.
I know, I understand.
I was like, man, somebody's drilling or something.
Anyway...
Stop it.
He was like, hey, that's for all of us.
And Chris, like, knew that it was ours.
It was in our fridge.
And Chris did, like, a very...
He went, ah, I love Red Bull.
Like, that's what...
That was his response.
Yeah.
And the dude said something along the lines of like,
yeah, fucking churn.
on it, man, and, like, walked out.
And the, the TM, like, pulled out a knife.
It was like, do you want me to kill him?
Well, why wouldn't the TM?
It's like a joke.
Maybe.
He was such a little fucking bitch baby.
That there'd be no point in even saying that.
It didn't matter.
Actually.
Yeah, yeah.
It just didn't match.
She knew as long as she knows, what do we care, you know?
Yeah.
Just terrible.
Always, like, I could have been in Europe with, like, the worst band you've never heard of right now instead of this.
It's like, like, Wolf Mother or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was like...
Could have been in Brussels with Wolfmother right now.
Yeah.
Dude.
What was the question?
Was it...
I played a show with?
Toured with.
Or played a show with.
Slash Encowered.
Greg Bannick's spoken word is the worst band I've ever played to show with, for sure.
Tored with?
We're very fortunate to be in a world where it's like, that's not really going to happen.
No, we kind of go out of our way to tour with bands we want to tour with.
Yeah.
You know, I might be the worst man I've ever toured with.
I might be that answer for somebody's people.
I've toured that Twitchie Tongues band one time.
Oh my God.
So that's fine.
Greg Benick's spoken word.
What's the next question?
Next question.
Favorite 2000s, Billboard Top 10 hit.
2000s.
Yeah.
When did Teenage Dream come up?
2010.
Really?
Are you really this good?
dates.
Yes.
With music.
Do you, do you remember?
The album, Teenage Dream was, was the album was 2010.
I can promise that.
You were right on.
Yeah.
That took me one second.
Are you good with like birthdays and anniversaries and stuff too?
Oh, it's only applies.
My mom's birthday is October 5th and my dad's is June 2nd.
And I get this two and the five mixed up every time.
I'm like, is it dad's birthday?
Is my mom's birthday?
You know?
Yeah.
On June 5th every year, I'll have already wished my dad, happy birthday.
I'll be like, don't miss it?
Fuck.
No.
But 2000s, dude.
Bleeding love.
Remember that one?
Humming.
Keep bleeding.
Keep bleeding.
I think it's Leona Lewis.
Unwritten, dude.
You know unwritten.
Sing it.
Staring at the playing page before you.
the dirty window.
Let the sign of lovel
Dude.
You made me reach it.
That's a fucking masterpiece.
The number two song
of the year 2000,
a little ditty called
Smooth featuring Rob Thomas.
That was 2000?
That's one of the songs.
You know, that song terrorized the
Billboard charts, straight up for, to this
day.
The airwaves, and you can't turn on a radio
for an hour. You can't scan
around without hearing smooth.
Dude, the matchbox boys?
Couple fucking tracks.
Straight up.
I don't you.
I was old in down here.
I wish the way of your world.
I didn't know that was 2000.
That's crazy.
Yeah, 2000.
Number six, Destiny Child's say my name.
I'm still going.
I mean, dude,
Umbrella, Rihanna umbrella goes fucking crazy.
2000s, Britney Spears shit was good too.
like, what was it,
was toxic was in the 2000s, right?
I mean,
toxic is better than most songs in history.
Do you want to hear something?
You know the song's stronger?
I'm stronger than yesterday.
Yeah.
Right.
The,
the little half-step key change is my loneliness
ain't killing me.
That's a throwback to my loneliness
is killing me.
Genius.
I know.
That's the line.
My loneliness and killing me.
People don't realize.
I guarantee you,
comment below if you knew that about that song.
That's like why it's so triumphant,
you know?
It's amazing.
Yeah.
I mean,
she,
there's those,
she has those all over the place
throughout the discog.
Really?
Some Swedish guy wrote some line for her
that was like,
this is the same as the line
on your first album that I wrote for you.
All the small things,
number 40.
ever clear number 54 which one is ever clear
it was the song wonderful but i just remember like everything to everyone
or i will buy you a new house oh yeah that one's dog shit
ever last now that's the good that's
the god or sinner and the calder a sinner and the color
uh yeah a couple tracks on this he does number 73
we forgot about dray wow all right how's that number 73 we'll keep
keep moving along
It's enough answers.
Favorite band from every state, alphabetical order.
Fuck off.
Okay, what are the states?
Arkansas.
Evanescence.
Dude, finding out that evanescence was American,
one of the most shocking moments in my whole life.
I love the polyrhythm in Wake Me Up.
Do you, do, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
I think that part's awesome.
Favorite casino.
Do I have a favorite?
Bellagio, the aria.
Those are my two.
Okay, those are those are my top too.
Yeah.
Mine's going to be the hard rock in Tampa.
The Caesars in Southern Indiana.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I mean, I love Caesar Southern Indiana now.
I didn't for a couple days.
No, you surely did not.
Bo, if you ran a choir boy
style mod rig,
what would you use?
What the fuck does that?
Like for a hell does that mean?
For guitar, for guitar shit.
Probably something by
Earthquaker could do it
and like a striman.
What the fuck is that?
I got the money.
Would you ever do a live performance
of bands with interviews?
What does that mean?
you ever do live performances of bands with interviews?
Like have them play on hard lore live.
I guess.
It says you have the connect with Taylor.
Do you know Taylor?
Young?
Oh, this is a great question from...
I would do that.
That's a good idea.
That is a good idea, I guess.
Like live on hard lore.
Grab a here.
And then we talk to them after?
Yeah, that's fun.
Okay.
What's your favorite album layout or booklet?
Ooh.
That's a good one.
Dude, I got, I told, I showed you a picture, but I got that, the typo booklet.
Right.
Fucking amazing.
It's so nice.
Yeah.
Um.
I have a Danzig, too.
I believe it's Lucifuge tape that folds out into a cross, but it's upside down because of the way it's
orientated.
And that's really fucking sick.
Can't be your own.
I made some good ones.
Layout.
Anything with like a nice sparkly gold or silver from the,
front you know like a shiny oh i remember um tryticon has really good layouts oh really they always do
like they only do a thousand or so of like every single thing they like they it's like a 10 inch
you know i hate 10 inches i know you do but it's like a 10 inch box set so it's very cool someone lost
someone broke or just even yeah exactly question
Do you think the overwhelming positive reaction to knock loose set at Coachella leads to more hardcore adjacent acts at more traditional festivals?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think so.
It's funny that like hardcore fests want to be Coachella and Coachella wants to be a hardcore fest.
Wow.
Like they want to have, I bet you fucking mind forces playing next year or some shit, you know?
They're going to see the TikTok of the girl with the pink tights getting fucking wapped.
And they're going to be like, she gets it so hard.
That's crazy.
They're going to be like, we can eat that on our fest next year.
I need sun hats flying.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, a lot of fests are like emphasizing non-harker bands, you know?
Right.
Yeah, it's a big spill.
Yeah.
I'm a firm, it's a cliche, but I'm a firm believer of Rising Tide raises all ships.
It just does.
Knock Luz has what is being considered.
like an all-timer
cocella set,
not even just like an
all-timer like
like a regular
on all spectrums of music
they're having one of the sets
that people are talking about.
Yeah.
So then they're going to post
your fucking band's demo
a week later.
And now some plebe
who just saw him at Coachella
bought a fucking puka shell
and now they follow Brian.
They're going to be like,
oh, I heard the new year
your shitty demo.
I love it.
You know.
So you never know.
It raises all the ships.
This is a great one.
Hit me.
Favorite spelled with a U.
So we got a sky.
Favorite objectively bad movie.
Oh, that's a great question.
I have one that is immediate for me.
I have so many.
Waterworld.
Dude, water world was a hit.
But did it?
Yes.
It has it.
So is an objectively a good movie?
No, but it was, but it was, I don't think it was, I mean, it was such a hit.
I saw it in the theaters, I remember.
And you loved it, right?
It had a, it had a show at Universal until like two years ago.
Yeah, I saw it.
And how awesome was it a few years ago.
It was fucking amazing.
Yeah, that means that it did pretty, did well enough to justify a show.
While Wild West.
You love Wild West?
I think Wow, Wow.
Now that's a bad movie.
That it's fun.
dude the fucking back and forth at Will Smith and Loveless give each other when they first see each other
and it's like a racial joke versus a ability joke.
Yeah. Crazy.
Hoo, it's crazy.
Yeah.
That movie is incredible.
You know that's the guy who plays Lockhart in Harry Potter?
Yeah.
Gilderoy.
He's a director.
Yeah, well.
He directed the first Thor movie.
Do you know that?
Oh, Jesus Christ, did he?
Yeah.
Kenneth Brana is his name.
I think he might be a sir Kenneth Brunner.
My apology.
He's no joke, dude.
He's like a, he's been knighted.
Mine would be moral combat annihilation.
Yeah.
Sick movie.
Terrible.
That part is so stupid.
Oh my God.
It's like, the real power was in me the whole time.
No.
You're not supposed to even have those arms.
You're supposed to be like a beacon of hope for, like that's,
it's supposed to be a cool.
thing that like he's part cyborg
you know right doesn't just have enhanced
arms I'm criticizing
my own pick for
for best bad mother you're alive
to bet you
shall die
I always thought
that that was
what's her face from the OC
Marissa's mom I thought it was Maris's mom
turns out it's just a lady that looks exactly like
Maris's mom
Cindell playing Queen Sindell
Motaro looks fucking badass
Sonia recast
Raiden recast as Mr. Big
from...
Yeah, Mr. Big.
He's the different guy.
He's the other guy
from Sex and the City.
Dude, Johnny Cage
dying immediately?
Immediately.
Garbage.
Taylor would say 47 Ronan
for this answer.
He loves 47 Ronan.
Is that not a good movie?
Yeah, I think it's a...
Most people would say
it's a bad movie.
Uh, objectively bad movie.
Yeah.
I think,
I think Wild West counts.
Yeah, no, it is.
It does.
Um,
it was,
it was reviled.
Yeah.
You know what was,
you know what?
This is a generational divide,
this one.
Okay.
Hook.
Fuck.
I can defend Hook.
That's what I'm saying.
So I'm blue in the face.
Spielberg doesn't even like it.
Dude,
for those of you who don't know,
screen play,
Cary Fisher.
Special effects,
assistants, George Lucas.
Spielberg directed it.
John Williams did the score.
Yeah.
Not only did John Williams do the score,
it was supposed to be a stage production.
So there's full songs
with lyrics and vocals and everything
written by John Williams.
Dustin Hoffman, Robin Williams,
is it Glenn Close?
Who's in?
Who's in?
What?
Oh, it's like a fun cameo.
Yeah, yeah.
Julia Roberts?
Dude, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I adore, and Maggie Smith as lady Wendy, I adore that movie.
Anybody on over like 35 or like 37 right now.
Yeah.
Fucking hates Hook.
Really?
Other than my dad.
My dad was fully down with Hook.
But like, there's a weird thing where if you were a certain age, Hook sucked to you.
Oh, that's so funny.
But like people are age and younger, we're like, this.
is the most magical thing. I'll cry right now.
When I saw John Williams perform with the Chicago Orchestra, they played
La-na la-na la-da-da-da-da-da.
And I was like, I was fucking dying.
Yeah, yeah.
It was incredible.
And you know, the kids at the end, the year of the pan now scene?
They didn't know.
None of them knew he was going to pick.
Dude, when he like
Oh.
It's so fucking good.
Dude, hook is incredible.
That's incredible.
All right.
Absolutely love the Hauntler episodes.
Please do more of them.
They are grand.
We would love to.
Questions.
Do you ever plan to do a live stream interview at any point?
Kind of.
So here's the thing.
I could go live on the Discord right now
or invite,
I'm just saying,
or invite people into the Zoom
like we did with Josta.
Yeah, yeah.
We could do that, but we got something better kind of in the thing anyway.
Just we'll feed you soon, baby birds.
Energy drink of choice that aren't coffee.
I'm a sugar-free bowl.
Me too, but I'm about to be a white monster man for life.
You know what I'm saying?
Scratch that.
Go back a second.
Chipotle, Moes, or Kudoba, it's not even close.
I know you have PTSD from...
I would rather...
drink the cheese alone from mose and not get anything from any of them i was going to say
chipoli when are you two going to do a mortician cover band what keeps rolling is god's hate ever
coming to minneapolis um i guess when are you guys starting your christian hardcore cover band
god's way keep scrolling
Favorite moment hearing Sean Martin
gut laugh to Kale's stories.
Oh,
you guys still need to get him on.
We have a mini with Kale.
That's really good.
We do.
It's quick.
We've said it's the serious.
Oh, Colin.
Are you ready?
This is just a nice underhand throw to you.
Okay.
Explain the hatred of melodic hardcore
and what bands you would consider
are part of that genre.
This is tough.
It sucks, man.
It sucks.
It's not.
Melodic,
hardcore to me is, is like a, it's an oxymoron almost, you know, like Christian death metal.
It's an oxymoron to me.
I think it can be, I do think it can be done well.
I think betrayed is straight up good, you know.
Do you like turning point?
Like, sure.
I'm no, I'm not, turning point doesn't come on and I'm like, yo, turn off turn off.
Sure, sure.
I'm just saying, I think that that is.
Yeah.
I can absolutely, I will absolutely defend that.
It's just not, it's not for me.
There's nothing about it that was for me.
It came into, during a point where it was so the opposite of what I wanted for music.
Yeah.
And then it, like, it didn't, like a plague, there was a virus.
You couldn't get rid of it.
It was everywhere.
It was everywhere.
It was scary.
Oh, jean shorts.
Swagless.
That's the other.
part. It's swagless as well. And I'm guilty of it. I'm saying these things because at the time
I was guilty of it. Um, would you consider, and this is, you know, certified friends of the show,
I'm not even trying to throw shade or rustle any feathers, but have heart. Yeah, but they got pits,
dude. They do got pits. I think, I think Melanic hardcoreans are pitless. Uh-huh. So you're,
like the ones that I consider, they just like, I don't understand.
the intention of the music.
So you hear octave chords and you go,
oh no, but then you hear like a stone.
But then I hear like,
got it, da, da, da, da, da, da,
I'm like, okay, they still
they still encourage
spin kicking at least.
Yeah. When it's, when it's all, it's like,
we're, we're a punk band,
you know, we're, we're, that's, that's the vibe.
Like, they're, they're, they're a hardcore band
full of hardcore guys, but they're like, we want to be a punk band.
You know what it's a lot of?
And they're just doing, what is that?
It's a lot of like eighth notes on kicks with symbol washed.
just like,
deen,
and I will dot.
Dina nina,
just like builds.
To nothing.
To nothing.
To do na nina.
Thank you.
You know,
like,
I never got the purpose of that.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I think if you enjoy it
and because there's like lyrics
that are like meaningful or it's like catchy,
then.
I'm lyrics second.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Lyrics second.
If the,
if the tunes rock.
and I like the noises that the guy is making or the girl is making,
then I'll read the lyrics.
And then I'm in.
But some of my favorite songs in the world,
I don't know all the words.
Oh,
you know?
Are you kidding?
You think I know the,
I don't know if I know all the lyrics to a single Metallica song.
How could you?
There's too many.
There's so many.
Dude.
Yeah.
We're doing that soon, right?
Yeah.
Reviewing the new Metallica.
Yeah.
Maybe next week.
Okay.
This one's for me.
Oh, how we've met would be fun.
We've covered it.
Go back to the very first episode, second episode.
Colin, heeping, glucose.
What?
We met as most people in our kind of world often do is just kind of through other people.
was a parking lot of a fest
yeah food is always talked about
but usually in regards to meals
as someone who snacks hard
I want to hear your thoughts on snacks
when at the grocery store what is the master killer
of snacks I'm a popcorn man
so catch me smashing whole bags
of skinny pop on the regular
I
I don't really snack all that much
snacking
is
like is
is every person's kryptonite, you know?
Yeah.
Because you could eat three, two pretty bad meals a day and be pretty fine.
You know?
Because like there's going to be some nutritional value in all of them.
Snacks are where you are eating empty, no nutritional value type calories, you know?
And while you're probably on the couch or working.
Chilling.
Just chilling, yeah.
But I love a snack.
So there was, there was, dude, the, like, sickest I ever was with, like, eating disorder stuff.
I planned out my exercise routine and my diet so that I could perfectly eat a whole box of cheese today.
Like to the calorie?
Yeah.
Like to the, the grams of carbs that were in a full box was the only carbs I would eat a day.
But I would eat that full box a day.
I think it's cool that you talk.
about that time period.
Yeah.
As an eating disorder.
Yeah.
Not that I ever objectively, he was like, what the fuck's going on with Colin?
But like, most people in my life were.
People that were like directly around me were more concerned then than they were when I was.
Bigger.
Yeah.
Huge.
But it's an amazing, you know, you went from skinny little man to not skinny little man to a skinny little man to a skinny little man to thick ass boy.
Yeah.
And that kind of happened
throughout the, you can track that in the show kind of.
Really?
Yeah.
Because I was probably 180.
You were starting to get big.
Yeah, I was 180.
Well, I got big.
Broke my hand.
Got small.
Right.
You know,
just started doing crazy cardio.
And then.
got down to like 180 or so soft a soft 180 175 maybe I'm about 220 2225 now
rock hard other than I'm 205 pounds other than the soft parts it's fine um yeah I don't
really snack and I'm this is the snack question yeah and I'm doing uh I'm doing
Lou Carbigan now, like, with a meal plan
and like a meal kit service and stuff. So I'm pretty
seriously watching. Pick three snacks.
Like the golden archers of snacks.
Okay. Great question.
String cheese. Oh, delicious. I don't even count that, dude.
That's so good for you. Yeah.
Six grams of protein per string cheese.
I mean, they're great and they're keto. So it's like best both words.
Oh, dude, Pop-Tarts.
Okay. See, now that's a snack.
That's a full on snack
Because I forget about this bow
That's older bow
Even just now before I started dieting again
I didn't have snacks
I would just eat like two big meals a day
I usually cook but
A pop tart
Dut s'mores pop tarts chocolate fudge
Pop tarts cinnamon or sugar
Okay so you like you don't like the fruit ones as much
Not as much no no
Did you like the Spider-Man ones?
So the Spider-Man ones I believe were the wildberry ones of old
And I love that
So yes.
That was the last time I ever ate a pop chart
was when the Spider-Man ones came out.
Because I was like, I wanted to be solid,
have solidarity for Spider-Man as a kid, you know?
I wanted them, I wanted to support Spider-Man,
so I got the Spider-Man.
Let's see.
Cereal?
Cereal doesn't count.
How is this?
So many people snack on cereal in between meals.
So many people.
But you're not getting cereal at a fucking gas station on tour, you know?
Very.
Okay, okay, great.
Excellent point.
Yeah.
On tour then, Reese's sticks?
Great answer.
Oh, my God.
Those things.
Mine would be.
And then sun chips.
Which flavor?
I'm a blue bag, man, or the garden salsa, the red bag.
If you can find them, they're rare.
That's Subway exclusive at this point.
Like Target.
Yeah.
For me, it's hot and spicy cheeses.
Yeah.
Best snack ever.
Yeah.
Is the best.
savory snack of all.
This doesn't really count,
but this was my after-school snack.
The two-pack Red Baron deep dish pizza.
Oh, dude, fuck yeah.
The one that's like that doesn't count.
That's a definite meal,
but I'd crush both of them.
I wouldn't eat all that.
I would starve myself all day
so I could get home and eat both of them.
And my dad would get like one pack of those a week.
So it was like my snacks for the week,
I was gone Monday at 3.30.
p.m.
Dude, I loved hot pockets, too.
Meatballs, mozzarella hot pockets.
I preferred bagel bites and the Red Barron deep dish over that.
Do bagel bites can't?
Definitely.
That's the best, that's better than...
When pizza's on a bagel, Colin, you can have pizza any time.
Okay, then the bagel bites are the best snack of all time.
They are so good, dude.
Like to this day, see, I had another era in my eating disorder where I was like, you know what?
these aren't that bad for you.
And I was working them into my plan, you know?
Wow.
Like that was my post workout thing was like 40 bagel bites.
Wow.
The full party pack, the family fiesta pack of bagel bites.
Does California slash Chicago have ocean?
That's good.
Good call back.
If you had a signature dish or item from a restaurant or fast food joint,
what would it be and where would it be from?
What would the Colin McDonald's meal be?
Oh, like the hard-lord McDonald's meal be.
Like if we got like a Travis Scott type thing.
Like the Cardi B thing, yeah.
It would have to be a little bit of both of us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It would be two large Diet Coke's, right?
Genius.
Yeah.
Two large Zichokes.
Editory.
Just easy.
Two large fries.
Uh, 40 nuggets.
And a big Mac with no cheese.
an extra sauce.
Okay.
And then what would your thing?
I would do a McDouble,
ketchup only.
Dude, this meal would be huge.
It would smash.
It would be like 1699,
but we'd kill it.
Stats,
1699.
Dude.
Lately?
How much is 40 nuggets?
10 bucks?
A lot.
Yeah.
No.
40?
I think it's 10 box.
I think 20 is 5.
Nugget economy has
has
improved while everything else has
altered? Let me check my ad.
Let me see here.
That can't be possible.
That's like Burger King prices.
Nuggets and meals.
20 nuggets, 699.
40 nuggets, 1299.
Dude, six nuggets is like 499.
So it's like you might as well get 20.
Yeah.
So 40 McNuggets, 1299.
Okay.
Six piece spicy McNuggets?
Dude, they have spicy nuggets?
No.
It's on my app.
Spicey nuggets are back?
This is breaking.
Wait.
We gotta go.
Wait.
Are you kidding me?
It's on my app.
Dude, we gotta wrap this episode up.
Get, uh, Dornash on the car, dude.
This is real?
Wait.
It's on my app.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Wait.
This is huge.
Not for me.
What does that mean?
You know what it means.
You're a fucking piece of shit.
Next question.
follow up.
Will you ever do another
listener's stories?
I have a couple
in the pipe that I'd love to share.
Those are our worst episodes
of all time, so absolutely not.
Our two lowest
episodes across the board.
Is that true?
Oh, yeah.
Sorry about that radical.
But you can Q&IS.
Favorite underrated fast food chain.
I do have one
that I feel like is rarely talked about.
We've kind of talked about it,
but steak and shake,
pretty fucking good.
It is underrated.
underrated. It's kind of accelerated cuisine, but dude, also noodles and company.
Yeah. That's accelerated cuisine.
That's accelerated cuisine for sure. I love noodles and company.
To me, because when you think fast food, right, you go McDonald's Taco Bell, Burger King Wendy's.
That's where your mind goes.
Pop-I's is fucking elite, dude.
It needs to be in the conversation.
We need to have this.
What is that?
What are the people,
those fucking idiots say on Twitter and stuff?
You're not ready for this conversation.
Yeah,
we're not ready for this conversation.
That Popeyes is underrated.
Even though people put respect on it.
Yeah.
It needs more respect.
Popeyes is incredible.
There are two near me and they're in the worst possible locations.
Yeah.
Just.
You have to.
Not even like neighborhood wise,
but just like to get to,
they're just like on the corner of the,
the busiest streets.
Like you can't.
It is literally,
I think there's one on
Satakoi in Sepulveda,
which is Sherman Way and Sepulveda.
It's one block away.
Sherman Way and Sepulveda is like the traffic-wise,
the most dangerous intersection in Los Angeles, California.
And the Popeyes is one block away.
There's one across the street from the pro wrestling T's store.
It's on my street, actually.
That's an excellent answer.
It's 100.
It's fucking great.
Yeah.
Let's see here.
Favorite moment?
The Honolower where for the entire episode,
Colin would get to a new area and say,
do you think anyone has ever spinked here?
And then do a spin cake.
That was his favorite.
Yeah.
That was a favorite moment.
Me too.
Let's see.
I don't recall ever hearing you guys talk about Freddy's,
the burger place with the red lettering and the white.
Never been.
Also curious if you ever tried.
Also curious if you ever tried illegal Pete's because they hook up touring mans.
I have.
It's at Grand Junction in Colorado.
It's like a Chipotle kind of Mo's kind of place,
but if you're on tour and can prove it, they give you food.
So respect to them.
Yeah, I like that.
I like anybody that does that.
I will abuse that system happily.
Will we be getting any more segments for the show?
Weekly coverage of new releases in the scene.
Have thought about that.
Yeah.
Instrument play-throughs or lessons?
No.
Track breakdowns where you have an artist go over recording process and fun facts about the songs.
Possibly.
That's some hard lore.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah.
I want to do that in person.
I want to make sure that was.
Yeah.
And we would need like, you know, a tailor.
Multiple.
Like an engineer or something.
What medical band?
What metal core medical?
Metal core bands do you guys actually like?
Define, okay, now I want you to, because I saw my buddy, Zach Nelson, 185 miles south podcast, check him out.
Ask what is metal core?
By all intents and purposes, and definitively, and objectively, Marauder is a metal core band.
That is, like, Marauder and all out war.
And all at war.
Like, that's metal core, metallic core.
Yeah.
core.
Yeah.
I don't know what this other stuff is.
That should have its own name,
but I guess it's just easier to call it metalcore.
It's classic metal core versus modern metal core.
Totally.
But like if that means we get to claim Marauder and all the war as hardcore bands,
then so be it.
Fine by me.
Fine.
Yeah, fine.
But if we're talking that,
the kind of colloquial use of the word.
I like, like, dead to fall.
Yeah.
I mean, disembodied is that.
I think it's like the hot course past, don't they.
You know what?
What?
Bo.
The blueprint for what these metalcore bands are doing is Kaven.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Kaven is the best metal, like, of that,
if that's what we're calling metalcore band,
it starts and ends at Kavan.
To me.
Skinny jeans.
One guys wearing skinny jeans with flip-flops.
one the fucking little carabiner is dangling with his keys off and the Torlammon on it
slamming so hard against his fucking belt yeah his canvas belt
that cave in they did it that's the real shit man yeah yeah yeah oh this is this is
excellent hit me for both of us if you guys had to move cities where would you go
you can't go in California how about we both say
nowhere in California because it's almost too often.
It's so easy, yeah.
Boston, Massachusetts.
Really? You'd go to the cold.
Yeah.
You know why?
Why?
Because I have an Arcteric's beta insulated jacket.
Wow.
Thanks, Bobby. Thanks, Bob.
Friend of the show.
I'd go to Southern Colorado.
It's kind of shittier, so it's cheaper to live there, and the weather is less bad.
the weather is less bad dude fucking Denver gets more sunshine than Chicago it's insane my god that's where
you choose in the whole country yeah I really like it there legitimately no dis to Colorado
everybody I know from Colorado yeah don't live in Colorado no more yeah but they also don't live
in a place where it's fucking flat and I still get six months of snow you don't like the flat
yo it's snowed today did it really yes it was 80 degrees on Friday it's
snowed in Chicago today. That makes no
sense. You know where I'm a big fan of?
What's that? Pacific Northwest.
Oh, I mean.
Gorgeous. No problem.
Oh, my God. Put me in Vancouver or
fucking Seattle. Oh, Portland. I would live in
Portland in Hartfordland. Yeah. Yeah.
That's easy. And you know what?
I love
My dad, my dad lives in Texas.
Texas, yeah, yeah. I love visiting
Texas. But maybe
it's a visiting thing, you know? Yeah, because
like that's the thing, right? It's like, I love it. How long and
until I have to kill a racist guy, you know?
0.3 minutes longer than you normally say.
It's like, yeah, exactly.
I love Vegas.
I don't think I could live in Vegas.
Oh, dude, Reno, Sierra Nevada up there.
Reno is actually amazing.
It's awesome.
Because it's like two and a half hours from San Francisco.
Yeah, no, Reno came up in a big way in the last like decade or so.
Yeah, yeah.
It's, it is like, it's mini Portland.
I could live in Reno for sure.
I actually think I could.
Yeah.
I would give it.
I'd be open to it.
Put it that way.
Me too.
Lana,
if you're listening,
I'm lying.
Just making Bo happy.
Don't,
don't quote me.
Similar to the fast food question.
You're driving down the highway
and need to stop for gas.
You stop at the holy grail of gas stations
that has literally every snack of drink
you can think of.
What are you grabbing before you get back in the van?
That's it.
We did this already.
That's crazy.
The synergy.
The high.
It's an amazing question, but I beat you to it.
And the answer is hot and spicy cheeses.
And what do you get to drink?
Ooh, it's a magical one, right?
It's a magical one.
They got everything.
The Wawa, half and half iced tea lemonade diet.
The Arnold Palmy?
Oh, my God.
The diet one is so good.
There's no reason being that good.
It's one of the greatest beverages on the planet.
Specifically.
True nectar.
What are the worst times where you guys feel?
felt like giving up on music.
You've talked about this.
Oh, come on, dude.
Yeah.
November 1st, 2015.
The day after Disharmonie came out.
You know the Twitter thread that keeps going up where it's like, what's the biggest
I'm not him moment in history?
I was going to respond with just the album art of Disharmony, but I didn't want to make it
about me, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was, dude, disharmonie.
Damn near killed me.
I'm not joking.
That was it where I was like,
this is the last music I've ever made.
You know?
That was it.
And then it wasn't.
And then it wasn't, thankfully.
Yeah.
I got like two or three more records in me.
Probably.
You got more.
Yeah.
We got to do this Allison Chainsman.
You got it.
Favorite.
What about you?
Oh, um,
giving up on music?
November 1st,
2015.
Yeah.
when it, almost, you know, it's never a,
we've been fortunate, I think, as a band to not have put anything out where it's like,
fuck this.
Fuck, yeah.
So it's not been that or like a tour.
We've been fucking brutalized with like crime and stuff.
Yeah.
When we had our trailer stolen in Vegas, James and I were the first two walking out and we were
walking to the van together.
at the Luxor.
And where the oversized parking lot was,
you had to walk through a parking garage
and then it's just a big parking lot.
And there's not,
it's a desert and a parking lot.
So there's like a tree,
you know,
six inches thick.
And we're both walking.
We're both just like,
man,
trailer must be behind that tree, huh?
Kind of a thing.
Like we were just into complete denial
until we got two,
10 feet of the van,
realized what happened.
And there was a very real moment
where I was like,
I'm done with this.
I'm going to fly home.
Yeah.
I'm like the band's done for sure.
I'm never coming back.
Like yeah,
I'm not doing this anymore.
This is insane.
So a little,
little different,
but I was ready to be done.
This one's for you.
Favorite Eldon Ring build.
A spell sword.
Come on.
Next.
Easy.
Start with a prisoner.
Go from there.
Sanity asked me if I ever painted
if I ever painted over the green room in this room,
I did with more green.
Darker green.
It's a much nicer green.
Well, Jordan Olds of two minutes of late night
did his in like this gorgeous,
gorgeous forest green.
This is what my room looks like.
Yeah, that's not bad.
No, it's very pleasant, actually.
Because before it was...
It was so punishing.
I felt like you were going crazy in the Lyme room.
I was.
You still are, but in a different way.
Am.
You look, let me tell you something.
I put on episode one the other day just for fun, just for shits.
Just to do it.
You look like you've lost 15, 20 pounds, probably.
Thank you.
Is that true, you think?
Um, no, it's, it's like, metrically, provably not true.
But, um, you're doing something different.
I'm doing something different.
I, I mean, until a lot of,
gifted me with those wonderful cupcakes for our one year anniversary.
She's a good person.
I wasn't eating any carbs and I've just, you know, even even in the last like month or so since I got fired, I've been like really being careful, you know.
Good.
What else are you going to do, you know?
Yeah.
The closest brush in with the law police or TSA on tour.
This is classic.
I think I told this in the Justice episode,
but on my very first European tour,
this is probably not my closest one,
but this is the most podcast-friendly one.
Half the tour bought these like industrial strength green laser pointers.
And we were just pointing them at planes and people.
Like we were just walking back to the hotel like la la la and thinking like,
damn, you can see it on the plane.
that's crazy.
And police cops rolled up like 30 seconds later.
No way.
And in English, because they knew, said, okay, who has the lasers?
Confiscated every laser.
Yeah.
This laser cost me like 40 euro, dude.
In 2010.
And that was like $65.
I had about 60 euro for the tour, you know?
But I was like, this laser's so cool.
I have to get it.
that was a good
they didn't arrest anybody or anything
but but I'm pretty crushed to this day
about the loss of my industrial strength
green laser pointer that I got in Italy
or Germany or wherever the fuck I was
we landed in Japan
and they were going through all of our bags
after we landed sometimes they'll do that
they found James workout bag
with chalk in it
and the dude
didn't speak any English the Japanese
you know border patrol guy or whatever customs guy
for a real one.
Oh,
and, like,
thought it was like a brick of Coke.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I had to be like,
no, no.
And I, like,
I grabbed James Arm.
I was like,
you know,
and they were like,
oh.
And like did a little
test strip or whatever.
Damn.
We're good boys.
We're very good boys.
Uh,
running with the law.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
Worst injury on tour.
You've been.
sick. You ever been injured?
I had a crazy allergic reaction to a cat one time.
And my face swelled up twice the size.
I'm telling you, Brody King, Anthony, they can all attest.
This is on a tour with God's hate and King Nine.
Yeah.
My face was double the size.
Oh, my God.
And it looked like a completely different person.
I don't think a single photo exists.
That's it.
But it was like, I've never.
It was crazy.
How is that possible?
I don't know.
I think they're out there.
Guys, if you have them, please send them.
These are two great questions.
Okay.
When are we getting a Twitching Tongue show?
And does Colin have a problem with gambling?
Next.
What are your Wawa orders?
The gobbler.
What's the, oh, is that the turkey thing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The gobbler with two Arnold Palmer's diet.
I love a meatball, Sammy.
Loaded up with like provolone.
Dude, I mean, so when it's not gobbler season,
I'm getting the pepperoni pizza sandwich.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go.
So good.
And it's very similar to the meatball.
You put mariner on any meat, and I'm like,
I don't really need anything else.
Also, the Colin Deftones bit where he did an impression of the singer on the pod,
literally made me go into a wheezing fit at work.
I think about it weekly and still laughing.
You want to get some more?
I want to thank you
that was good
uh here
this is okay let's not
it's not shit on uh this person
because they probably just assume that everyone's into it
but favorite black metal and grindcore records
for uh extreme conditions demand extreme responses
that's what's called
that's like ASIC
I like carcass
yeah yeah that's about it
black metal i don't really give a fuck no black metal is not good i'll tell you what i like dimo
borgia brother that's that's the best black metal man i like immortal but i like immortal when it
stopped being just black metal like suns and darkness is where it's kind of more
a little more technical question for colin the internet reaction to your songs in a w have obviously
been great yeah anyone like tony or the others reach out to you about their reactions
would be sick if you eventually do a song for a pay-per-view.
Like Tony Kahn?
Yeah.
The billionaire.
No.
Nobody's reaching out to me.
It's very cellular is what I've gathered.
Like you're just kind of operating and link up with someone who uses it.
It's up to the, like I can tell you with the buddy one.
Buddy using I suggest was like, hey, we didn't figure anything out.
You have a big match tomorrow.
Do you want to use this?
Wow.
It was basically it.
And he was like, yeah, Mike.
And it's sick.
So, and then, so it was like, okay, if you like it, we'll do, we'll push this part here.
We'll do this part here.
And then I'll do a little voiceover.
What do you want me to say?
Say this.
Okay.
Does this sound good?
Yes.
Okay.
Eight hours later, it's on TV.
Um, and like the, the Kings of the Black Throne one for, for Brody and Tom.
Yeah.
Big Tom obviously was like, that was the first.
first one that was the starter there was no plans for it to be on tv or anything uh they were a little
warmer with me when we were doing that one because it was like the first one and it was their first
time working with me you know yeah like excited to have a new guy as part of like the yeah yeah
and i think once once i did another one they were just like oh this fucking guy again
nobody's actually um but you know the wrestlers want if they i'll do it i'll do it forever as long
is right the boys are there's a house guy yeah you're not you're not trying to step on toes
i don't want i'm not he he's paid full time to do that you know it and i like obviously
i can't do what he does straight up like like the jamie hater song i don't i couldn't write
that um did did do i couldn't do i could not do that but i think you know there's obvious
there's going to be situations where, like,
there's a right man for the job.
Yeah.
And when somebody wants, like, a hard,
an, like a straight up, hard song,
I feel, I have proven at this point.
Did it.
Dan, and,
done it.
Then I'm the man for the job.
Yeah.
But, no, but, but the, the, the, the locker room is,
is the most receptive and,
and excited and cool about it.
That's been cool.
Favorite air drum along band while listening to or watching live.
King Diamond.
King Diamond.
Oh, watching live?
Yeah.
It says it's listening to.
Armsway King Nine.
It's true.
You do,
you do be air drumming.
I know every one of them fucking things that he's about to do.
Even the live ones.
Even the live.
I know the live.
Get through the gets.
Get through the kids.
I know that one.
That is Mills.
And then the breeding grounds when he switches to the crash live.
Yeah.
Dundin, d'an, d'an, d'can, got,
Deng, Gag, Degad, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gag, Gah, Degas, Gah, Gah, Degas.
You know all of them, King Nine, uh, but recorded, uh, but recorded,
Biodo Houser King Diamond. I think for me, it would probably be like, again, I think I can do it,
but I can't, I'm not much of a drummer at all, but like, Ghost is very fun to air drumming, too.
Yo, the guy, the guy, the open-handed guy, the open-handed guy who never stopped
counting with the left foot.
Oh, really?
is he always a fucking beast.
Yeah, he's awesome.
That high hat foot never stops.
All his fills were so risty too.
Very risty, but it's like,
if you subtract that left foot,
for me, it's like, oh, this is child's play, you know?
But the fact that that thing never stopped.
Really?
Is great.
To me, like as somebody who started playing drums with double kick.
Yeah.
The high hat, whoever,
any drummer out there that can do the high hat foot never stopping.
Is that like,
The flex?
I think they're amazing.
Really?
I think it's like, with drumming,
I think that's a normal thing
that you learn in like drumming
basic fundamentals.
But I was self-taught.
I didn't know how to do that.
Yeah.
So normal shit like that blows my mind.
I love that.
That's fun.
Yeah.
That's fun.
What city has the best barbecue
and why is it Memphis?
It's not.
It's not.
But it's very good in Memphis.
Central barbecue is no, no problem.
Yo, St. Louis has some unbelievable.
St. Louis has great barbecue.
I had a place called Bamas yesterday in rural Michigan that was St. Louis style.
And it was fucking great.
You know, San Antonio.
I've had some of the best barbecue in my life.
Of course, because they have the best to everything.
Because they're the best.
Austin.
I don't say many good things about Austin.
Austin does have good food.
Yeah.
I've had,
I think it was called Iron Barbecue in Austin.
And it was like, you ever get beef ribs?
The big fucker.
I don't prefer them.
But yeah.
They're less flavorful.
But if the sauce is rocking.
Yeah.
How do you feel about a hot link?
Love a hot link.
What's your favorite barbecue like?
Acutremont?
Like if I'm picking an order?
Oh, I mean,
brisket is my number one.
Yeah.
Barbecue is my thing.
Make a little like a Martin's potato roll
brisket sandwich.
A hot link.
I'm not a pole pork guy.
I like pole pork,
but I'll go brisket
like 10%.
Every time.
Every time.
I'm not a big pork guy.
It depends.
Yeah, I can see that.
Dude, we got burnt end like matro fries.
And then I got a brisket cassidia.
That sounds good.
Outstanding.
What do you guys think about hardcore heavy bands doing covers of non-hardcore
artists like Bain,
Flashwater covering Bjork?
It sounds interesting for you guys as musicians.
I wish.
Yeah.
I could do it and not feel as though it
compromise the band.
One of the, one of the very first, like, okay, one of the very first things I ever heard when I was downloading music as like a 13 year old was H2O covering like a player.
I thought you were going to say throw down baby got back.
And that, surely.
That changed shit.
Surely I remember that.
Yeah.
So it was just like, to me, it's just always like a gimmick.
Like it's always like kind of just like a.
And then like the Newfound Glory thing, you know, just like.
Yeah, they've done like full albums of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I think it can be done right.
It can be done right.
But like,
Flashwater doesn't count because
Fleshwater is like not only a music band.
Actual musicians.
Actual musicians.
And you got like twitching tongues covering
like Goldless woman.
You know, it's like.
Yeah, that was sick.
You can do that.
That was that was a complete like last.
This harmony was recorded.
Yeah.
Drums were wrapped and everything.
And then at like midnight Taylor and I were just talking in a living room.
And you'll be,
we'll be fucking sick if we recorded that.
And it was going to be like I hit just like a B side on the on the album.
Yeah.
And it was like just fire up the stuff.
Let's just record at least record the drums.
So I played drums on that and just listened to the original.
He made a little count in for me.
Yeah.
And I just played to the Fleetman Mac song.
So it's like the same,
it would be the same BPM as whatever theirs was.
because it was just listening to it like, okay,
we'll do this.
Nis you may.
It was cool.
It was just like complete,
like record was done.
Oh,
let's add this.
That's fun.
Yeah,
no pressure then,
you know,
just fun.
You know what?
One of the best heavy covers
of a non-heavy song is,
Crowbar,
no quarter.
Crowbar
fucking
Dreamweaver,
dude.
Which one?
Dreamweaver.
Oh, dude,
that one's amazing.
Oh, my God.
But that no quarter is on my favorite.
It's my favorite song on my favorite Zeppelin record.
So when I heard them do it, it was just like, oh shit.
You know.
So the Dream Weaver won for me because of Wayne's World.
Yeah.
Was like, that was a real full circle thing.
She's a babe.
Typo did a lot of.
Typo did a lot.
And dude, like, and what's funny is like, Cinnamon Girl is incredible.
Yeah.
Fucking Hey Pete.
Dude, hey Pete is crazy.
I'm going to.
take that Detroit.
Brighton Beach.
Fantastic.
I love,
if somebody can do it, it's great,
but I just like,
I'm fully down.
I can't imagine
Harm's Way covering a non-heavy song.
You know what I mean?
It just depends.
It's a case by band basis.
You know,
what you got there.
God damn it.
Favorite.
Co-Haden Cambria song?
Song?
Yeah.
Guess we know
who's teacher's pet
Big Easy.
Song.
I think it might be
in keeping secrets.
The fucking
whoa section?
Oh my God.
I would love some closure
on the big
Did Bo ever score
with the Whole Foods fish debacle?
No.
It just never would have
worked between us.
We were two very different people.
He's moved on.
He's got help
since the show.
We grew apart.
I told him he couldn't be
fucking.
fish well one of these days it would jeopardize the show you know my my fish skeletons would come back
to home they'd come out favorite Mario universe character from any Mario Nintendo game now we're
talking that's fun I mean objectively it's Luigi he's I mean I'm a big Yoshi guy
Yoshi rocks but does he have the chops the comedy the comedic chops that Luigi has no I mean
No.
Did you see the movie?
I haven't seen the movie.
I haven't seen it yet.
No, no.
I only saw the Redfield movie
that you apparently hated.
Dude, it is unbelievable.
I'm telling you.
It is perfect.
It's crazy.
Did you see John Wick for?
Yeah.
I loved it.
I don't want to engage with you
on that debate on the show.
I don't want to get you in trouble.
There's no debate.
There's no debate.
Yeah.
I just wasn't.
Just.
Just stop.
Pretty good in trouble.
Who would you pick?
Maybe Bowser Jr.
I love Bowser Jr.
That's fun.
That's a good one.
I never pick him in anything.
Smash Bros.
Mario Card or anything,
but I think it's Luigi for me.
I love Luigi.
Well, here's the thing.
If I'm picking in a Mario game as a playable character,
the answer is Peach.
Because she could do the little flutter fly thing.
so you can jump longer.
Oh, yeah.
Mario 2.
Each is the best playable character.
Mario 2?
Get everywhere in that stuff, bitch.
Yeah.
Each is the best playable character.
That's science.
I won't, I will debate any of you
because Zelda fucking sucks
and Mario is God.
Okay?
No, no, no.
No.
No.
Do you guys think that bands like Weapon X,
World of Pleasure, and Point of Contact
are the new way to approach
Straight Edge in 2023?
There's nothing new about it.
Does the minority unit slash no tolerant straight edge era doesn't fit with the heavy music era of hardcore?
I'm confused with what the question is?
Yeah, I don't.
Like the, like musically?
Maybe.
I don't know.
I'm sorry that I don't understand.
I don't think that there's anything really new about Weapon X, World of Pleasure, or Point of Contact, personally.
Like hard music with hard lyrics?
Yeah.
That's a wonderful.
It's a tale as old as time, but it's like I'm, I'm,
glad that it's still.
Yes.
That it's,
that it is still that way.
They're keeping hard straight edge bands alive where the norm would be something
more like a no tolerance,
a floor punch,
you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like that's,
that's like tried and true straight edge 101.
Yeah.
It's,
I mean,
those are no tolerance floor punch are in like,
the annals of history as like all time best trade edge men.
Um,
So I like, you know, I like when it is different.
Definitely.
And when it's the same, frankly.
Yeah, yeah.
Do the same thing.
Just say different, harder stuff.
I'm down.
Don't make it melodic.
Just don't make it melodic.
Melodic, straight at its hardcore.
I'd rat you'd have to zell me.
How bad does your neck hurt after Colin crank down it?
Not at all.
I'm bigger, faster, strung.
Well, I'm also, I'm a great.
I'm Brett Hart.
Oh.
Yeah.
He protected.
me. I'm very gentle.
He protected me on that sidewalk.
What is the master killer of rap music?
We don't. We don't know.
We don't know. To me, it's onyx back to fuck up, but I know I'm wrong.
You know?
I'll tell you what the master killer of R&B music is.
Oh, please do.
It's Boysome and Coolly High Harmony.
People think I'm joking with this.
I used to wear Boys Men shirts from Twitch and Tunes played all the time.
I love Boysome.
They're talented men.
Talented men?
Who were boys.
They're maybe the greatest harmonizers in the history of music.
Yeah, I mean, you know me.
BG's boys, cement.
Love me, a harmony.
Well, I love me a coolly high harmony.
I'll tell you that much.
Will the vocalists and many hardlores eventually get there
are full episodes like Vogel, Matthew Honeycutton, Joseph.
Yeah.
1,000%.
Yeah.
These are just little taste, little appetizers.
This is a garnish.
A fast song
Hold on
Allow me to read this how it's written
Oh you know what
His name is the same thing as the weapon X thing
He's got Brazilian in the name
So maybe English not the first language
So I'll be very nice
A fast song
Can be hard
Yes
Or heavier than a heavy song
Like infest
That's what it was written
I think they're trying to say
Is it better to have a fast song
that's hard or a heavy song that's hard.
I don't know.
I don't know what the question is.
I think it all depends on the intention and the execution.
You know?
Like I think some bands use fast parts as a crush.
Who's the hardest fast band?
Like who's a band that has a pukup, puk, puk, puk, pique, but you're just like,
piece by piece.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a really good answer.
Peace by piece could do a song with no mosh part, just going.
the whole time and it's the hardest song.
Okay.
Because of the intention behind it and the lyrics.
Good answer.
True answer.
It's a fact.
Yeah.
The only answer.
Favorite moments three-way tie.
Okay.
The great fast food debate.
The Christmas special.
Christmas special was fun.
Near and down my heart.
I was so tired.
I know.
I will never forget how tired I was in the Christmas special.
This motherfucker was falling asleep.
It was crazy.
We had crispy cream.
Colin ordered.
Colin got Krispy cream and then Colin's wife accidentally also ordered Krispy
Cream.
Yo, that happened again like a month ago.
We both ordered Krispy Cream.
Dozens of donuts.
It's a problem.
It's a problem.
Greatest accomplishment to happen to the show.
And do you think Hardlore will ever have a Hardlore exclusive discord moot or gathering?
Yeah.
What the hell does that?
What the hell does that?
What the? Kingsmoot, like a meeting.
So like, say...
I was born in 1991.
So say there's...
Say we go to something like Sound of Fury.
This is hardcore.
Will we ever have like,
hey, come get a pick moment or something?
Huh.
I would say I could see that happening.
Just find...
Just some fineness anywhere.
Yeah, yeah.
We don't need to make it a theater.
I don't need to.
You don't need to stand in a line.
let's see too many fave moments for this was Colin explaining how was appendix burst
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Yeah.
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So.
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Yeah.
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What?
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Exactly.
It looks exactly like this.
It looks just like this.
And we wing it, much like these ads.
Yeah.
We really wing it.
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I know.
Give me another question.
Stuck on a desert island.
All you have.
is a post-black album Metallica release and an infinite amount of one-chip flavors.
What is your pick?
That's a great question.
You know what I pick, though?
I bet you know damn well what I pick.
I do.
Yep.
A gun to my fucking head.
I'm going to say S&M.
Oh, that counts?
Why not?
He said release.
Oh, easy.
Yeah.
Gun off-head, S&M fired up.
One chip flavor?
Yeah.
now that's tougher man
well okay it does say chip
flavor so that's not necessarily
because like sun chipped that's not a chip
flavor you know
I'm just thinking like I'm gonna get sick
a nacho cheese drita I'm gonna get sick a cool
wrenched rite I'm gonna get sick of the sour cream
and onion lays
so I might have to go the sweet Maui onion
oh the weird
the purple bag yeah yeah I don't
exactly what you're talking about.
Or the kettle salt and black pepper one.
Dude, say that again, I sneezed.
The kettle brand salt and the coarse black pepper.
That one's really good.
That one is like kind of spicy.
It is spicy with just being black powder.
Yeah, it's true.
Black pepper.
For me, it's Cape Quad.
Salt and vinegar.
Salt and vinegar for the rest of your life.
Vinegar is my favorite, like, flavor of, of barbecue.
Your mouth is built different.
Diff, baby.
Mine, if I eat, if I eat a serving of salt and vinegar chips,
I have a canker army grown.
Oh, yeah, no, I don't get any of that.
You don't get kangar swords?
Never.
Wow, you're blessed.
In different ways.
When are we getting to Colin Young workout plan?
There are two things that I think you should do.
And this is my suggestion for you,
as a venture on your own to make money in addition.
Uh-huh.
Have people do a Colin Young fucking Patreon
and have people pay for your shit, whatever.
For what to work out?
Dude, you have
provable, noticeable,
photographed change.
It's just like writing...
But I'm all getting that from a guy on YouTube.
So, that's every riff you've ever...
Every riff you've ever written is the same thing.
We talk about it all the time.
There's nothing new under the sun.
but what you're doing is working.
Relax.
Shut up.
Also.
Those are all new.
This is not.
And this is Scott Herman Fitness kid.
And you're, you need to figure out some kind of t-shirt sleeve cutting.
I'm working on a template.
Don't worry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm working on that.
I cut this one today.
Oh, really?
You're, you're, okay, you cut yours a little too close to the neck for me because I don't want that much of my titty out.
But that's preference.
But that's what I'm saying.
You're very concerned.
in how you cut yours, so that's, that's good.
I can, I don't have any shirts down here.
You're not getting it.
You all show you on the whatnot live next Friday.
Dude, make an option for one of the shirts you sell to be.
Yeah.
That's fun.
That's good.
Would you rather never be able to listen to Master Killer ever again or still be able to listen
to Master's Killer, but you have to listen to St. Anger and Fold Through headphones every day
for the rest of your life?
I'll never listen to Master Killer ever again because I got it in my head.
Yeah, that's true.
I got that record.
I could play Master Killer.
I could play it on every...
I could re-record it right now and be able to do it again.
I couldn't play the drums.
I could program it, but I could do it.
Yeah.
And St. Anger is fucking long, brother.
It's crazy.
It's so long and it's...
Like, even as a bit now at this point, it's like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It could be 20 minutes shorter across the board.
Yeah.
Well, oh my God.
Yeah, yeah, we'll get there.
We'll get there.
Where this episode is good as done, so might as well save it.
Just keep going.
Yeah.
Will there be a hard lord tour, musically, or comedy?
You already know the answer to that.
It's a big yes.
Very soon.
Here in Mexico City, Little Caesars is huge.
Probably the second or most third or third most popular fast food brand.
What are your thoughts on the Little Caesars?
You know, I think Little Caesars has just been ruined for us because of economic factors
and having toured so much.
But, like, if that wasn't the case,
case? It's a great value, dude.
Like the crazy bread? I'll die for it.
Okay. I got you. That really saved my life for a few years there, the crazy bread.
But I hope to never eat little scissors again.
Same, but you can appreciate the value. I mean, the deal is, it's the Costco hot dog, you know?
It's like one of the greatest things a company has ever done.
And, hey, we're going to make a pizza that has a.
available all the time for five fucking dollars in any Kmart and yeah everywhere so that's that's
badass yeah yeah so I love that both are within 500 feet of each other which do you frequent more
McDonald's or in and out um I live wow I live pretty close to both if in and out delivered it would
be different but I got to go there to get it you know I probably eat McDonald's more
there's more variety, which often we say is like not good.
The spice of life, kind of.
Yeah, but kind of is, right.
But it's variety from the most reliable source ever.
So it's like...
The best source of food ever made.
Ever made.
I'm biased because I don't get it as often.
So I would pick in and out.
So you're actually a better answer.
I live like they are across from each other where I live.
I go I order McDonald's more
I go to in and out
how far
that makes something
for me
yeah
McDonald's is much closer
but both are less than a mile
and you you
do the McDonald's I order from
is truly like
a hilarious
distance to order from
I go pick it up sometimes
but it's just the time you know
but like I said
in a couple weeks ago on the episode
I walked over I walked there and dined in
how'd that feel
it was a dark day
yeah it was dark
dining in a McDonald's by yourself
is fucking dark
everybody's looking at you like
what is going on in his life
this man's having a midlife crowd
and I'm just wearing this
yeah so they're like what the fuck
and like my neighborhood is 99%
Hispanic you know so there's just like
so no matter where I go it's like
What is his problem?
Yeah.
You know?
And that's fine.
Well,
why does he have camel pants on?
Who is he murdered?
Yeah,
pretty much.
Which is cool.
That's fine.
What are your seeing?
Oh,
this is fun.
What are some of your favorite tattoos you've seen people get for your bands?
Oh,
wow.
We have a friend in Arizona,
Connor,
who has Harmsway Army.
Like,
in like the collegiate font,
like on his leg is pretty,
You know what's crazy?
There was the guy from Arizona who got the Twitch and Tongues demo cover with the head going,
the demo back cover on his head.
Whoa.
That's wild.
That's up there.
I've seen a few isolation rats in, like, the cloud, which is always cool.
I don't know if I've seen any post-human ones, but I could see it very easily.
Because they're currently humans still.
I got post human right here.
Oh, there you go.
But, yeah, that's about it.
There's a lot, which is awesome.
It's like one of the craziest things ever.
Yeah, it's cool.
A bunch of jagoffs decide on like a,
and you get it tattooed on you.
The samurai, the front facing samurai head,
as seen on my rolling kit here.
The front facing one,
Mark did as a tattoo.
on somebody first.
Oh.
And then he was like,
hey,
I had to do the front facing one.
Well,
like it was our artwork
and he got a God's hate tattoo
and asked for it to be front facing.
Gotcha.
So he kept the stencil
so that he could finish it
and give it to us as like a thing to have.
So that's pretty cool.
This is good.
On tour,
how often you lobby dining
versus crushing fast food in the van?
Often lobby a nine.
Pretty much as often as possible.
I love to lobby dine.
Some of,
he just asked
the part two of this question
yeah
please grace us with pro tips on how to maneuver
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dipping sauce when you're eating in the van
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that's all I can say for now
it's all we're legally allowed to say
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Thanks to hard lore.
If there was any kind of branding on it,
you might already be a fan.
Dare I say,
friend of that branding.
That's true.
What is your least favorite song on Mass for Killer?
How fucking dare you, sir?
I pissed a tailor off really bad one time
by calling the riff after the breakdown of life is pain silly.
Yeah, that's crazy.
He didn't like that.
I don't.
I used to not get besiege the masses,
the beginning.
I just didn't get it.
You are, okay.
Dude, I didn't dislike it.
I just didn't get it.
I know.
Listen, listen.
I'm going somewhere.
Speaking.
You ever watch one of them like WWE documentaries?
And they cut to Michael Hayes, right?
Yeah.
They cut to Michael Hayes in every single one of them.
About like, it'll be like about Stone Cold Steve Austin or the Rock or the Undertaker.
It'll be about like everything that's ever worked, right?
And it'll cut to Michael Hayes at one point going,
I didn't think it was going to work.
You're Michael Hayes a lot of the time.
All right, thanks.
But you always come around, you know?
I did.
Obviously, I came around.
You always come around.
I just didn't.
And it's fun for me now knowing this part of you
to see it happen in real time a lot of the time.
Like, I'll show you something and you'll be like, huh.
Yeah.
And then a week later you'd be like, dude, that is sick.
I've been listening to a lot of dying fetus.
You're all in now, right?
It's, it's perfect.
It's quite literally perfect.
How?
This is a great question.
Oh, the first,
that comment column made along the lines of,
if I'm not consuming at least three forms of media
at any given moment,
I want to kill myself,
lives rent free in my head because it's literally me.
It's a problem for me.
I sit at this computer.
I watch YouTube.
I play a video game.
And I'm on TikTok.
Every day.
Every single day.
I am driving to YouTube.
You know?
I'm not looking at the screen.
Mostly because now my Bluetooth is a little bit delayed.
Oh, annoying.
That's a little bit delayed.
The new car?
The new car, Bluetooth is a little bit delayed.
That's annoying.
That's disappointing.
But I don't mind because they want to discourage you from using it.
Do you think that's why?
Because obviously
I think it's part of it
Like they're there
You know they're capable of doing that
Yeah clever
But yeah I'm the same
I'm like
I will be listening to music
And listening to something else
And playing a game
And
A movie
And like editing the show
How many times would you say
You consume on average per week
I've never had
Any kind of antacid
Or stomach settler
Ever in my life
Are you serious?
I've never once partaken.
That might be the craziest thing you've ever told.
I've never had one and I never will.
You better knock cock, brother.
I'll tell you that much right now.
I'm different.
Dude, I was fine.
And then in early high school,
I got obsessed with Arizona iced tea.
Those tall boy cans,
72 milligrams of sugar each.
I'd have four a day.
Because I was an idiot and I thought iced tea, you know, blah, blah, blah.
I got it's water, it's healthy.
Yeah, right?
And it's a dollar.
You can't beat that.
That's the real problem.
Yeah.
And then by the end of probably senior year, like the end of high school,
I just started getting crazy carpet.
I didn't even know what it was.
So I started eating tums.
Tums.
Now the taste of Tums make me nauseous.
See, that's the thing.
I can't do a chalky texture.
So now I take
Ranch and creams to you
Chalk to me
Gotcha, okay
So those after dinner mints
That like Greek and Italian places
Have you hate those
The like chalky mints?
I don't I'm always going to
I know nothing.
Your pepper mints
No thank you
I carry my own mints now
Because it's like I know I'm good
Yeah
So now I take 40 milligrams
Of fametodine every day
But you know what's interesting
If I don't eat carbs
If I do keto, don't eat it
totally gone, man.
No harpern.
No indigestion.
Something's wrong in there.
Something's.
Yeah, no, no times for me.
Individually, what are your top three best slash funniest moments from the last year?
Funniest?
What are our hardest laugh?
You walking into the poll, like, I'll still put it on and it will fuck me up.
Okay.
Someone on the Discord made you saying, hey, with the comforter on, me getting surprised, fucks me up.
That was fun.
That was us.
I hope that there's bloopers from that because that was like the first time where we were like trying a scripted thing.
Trying to act.
You doing the I never touched my dick when I be.
That laugh that you hear from me after that is so genuine.
That's probably the funnyest, the single like funniest hardest laugh.
Oh, what, what?
There's something that made a, that got us real good.
Oh, dude, talking about memes with Dan Sealy, the N64 controller full of beans and stuff?
Yeah.
That's good.
It's always, so that's kind of the double-edged sword is like it's always the in-person shit.
Because you get the silly ha-haz and then you just, you know.
We've had a couple.
I mean, I love the last two hours have been.
Oh, easiest.
Yeah, so great.
Just unbelievable.
So there's, I'm not, I'm never like comparing.
but it's just like when it,
what comes to mind is like,
dude,
I'm not joking,
you guys.
When Colin walked into that pole,
it was a full 180 seconds of me laughing.
It was a lot.
It was three minutes of me like,
on the cutting room floor.
Yeah.
Good.
God.
The idea of boat,
now this is,
I really wish this was on camera.
The idea,
Jesus Christ,
the Instagram.
insane.
The idea of Bo taking off his Morpheus glasses and crushing them gets me every time.
Did Bo...
Sorry.
No, it's okay.
What did you say?
My only regret is that Sean wasn't filming.
That you just did that to do it.
Yeah.
But that was a moment of pure passion.
That was a real...
I mean, there wasn't a bit.
It was not a bit.
I'm not going to...
That was me saying, I'm not going to be called Morpheus on the show if we do something.
You know what I mean?
which of course
then I was
but it was me being like
I'm not gonna like
let this be a thing
it's such a thing now
and it's such a thing
it's
that's my favorite part
of the Christmas episode
is where we're telling that story
and then I say guys
and you're like guys
guys yeah
and then I realized that I said it
in the moment I'm like
guys
fuck
I like that
and I liked telling
the story to the Uber driver
after, right after that happened.
Yeah. And me being like,
now wouldn't you say Morpheus is like a cool
guy? And she was like, yeah.
She's like, yeah.
And I was like, see, it's cool.
He didn't think so.
We're almost done with Twitter here.
We're going through a lot of them here.
There's 52 new messages in the Discord.
What do we do? What? That's too many.
I could do quick ones.
Does Bo ever get naughty at shows?
Like maybe a little spin kick.
No, I'm never was really a spin kicker.
I'm a stage diver, and I'll do a, I'll pit,
but not, no spin kicks.
There'll be no spin kicks from me.
Somebody said their favorite part of the episode
was the Disharmony Rest episode.
Favorite part of the show.
Yeah.
Collins shitting at waterburger.
MP3.
Dude, I mean, that was incredible.
That was the hardest we left.
Is that Farnas Fest?
Yeah, that was Furnas Fest.
because you played it like randomly later on.
Yeah.
I would be like,
what do you mean?
You'd be like,
here's what I mean.
It was just like.
It was just an explosion.
So,
I remember that now.
Somebody said their favorite part of the show
is Colin being a top
and Bo being a bottom.
What do you think?
You're like getting fucked in the ass.
What's a song you guys think each other did really well on?
And what's a song you think each other shit the bed on?
Shut up.
Who said that?
Gundar 420.
I think you did really good on...
What do you think I shit the bet on?
I don't know.
I don't have an answer for this.
You wouldn't know if I shit the bed on anything
because you don't know what I'm playing.
I wouldn't.
How do you guys feel about being the quote-unquote old heads
for some of us?
bizarre.
It doesn't bother me anymore.
I'm a bit older than you.
You are.
Yeah, there was a point in time
where it was like, I'm not an old...
You know.
You kind of realized one day.
I've been.
around for so long that I was the youngest kid in the room for so long.
You know?
And it was like I was there's some half of that was like fuck this kid.
And half of that was like, no, we have to.
He is the future.
You know?
Yeah.
So like for example, Riley from Sound and Fury.
Yeah.
This is pretty funny.
So when I was 14 or 14.
15 years old.
There was a message board called Strange Notes.
Okay.
Strange Notes was the B-9 board only for California.
Gotcha.
Yeah, we had a couple of this.
It was run by Todd and Riley.
Sound and Fury records put out the violation-possessed 7-inch.
Okay.
When the violation-possessed 7-inch came out, in this whole era, the only way to hear these songs
was to buy the 7-inch and listen to it.
Yeah.
Which, A, I don't have any money.
B, I don't have a record player.
Yeah.
So 14, 15-year-old me on Strange Notes,
on the message board made by the guy that put the record out.
Yeah.
Said, like, can anybody send me this record?
And I was immediately banned from the board.
And young me is like, damn, I just want to hear the songs.
right
Riley unbans me
the guy that put the fucking record out
unbans me
so clearly it was Todd that banned me
Riley unbans me
and it's like I think it's more important
to remember that a 15 year old kid
is trying to hear hardcore music
than it is that he's trying to download
hardcore music
and like
now
15 year olds are rare
like they're in Oxnard, I can tell you that much.
But outside of Oxnard,
the median age for a new hardcore show goer or listener is like 22.
Sure.
Yeah.
When at the,
like I don't,
this was all I had,
you know,
at that time.
It was like the only thing I cared about.
So I can't imagine going through your life and then finding this.
But that's another point.
Yeah.
Nurturing the young listener and making them feel welcome is like,
the most important thing we can do.
So if you're a little ass kid starting a band,
if you're 22 and starting a band,
I'll try to get to it and listen to it.
If you're 15, I'm listening to it immediately.
I'm going to do everything I can to help you, okay?
Because I, like, I must do to somebody what Riley did for me as a kid.
That's a pretty crazy thing.
And that was 16 years.
ago, you know, 17 years ago going on.
And now, you know, still see him all the time.
Yeah, it's awesome.
He's still there booking an incredible, the best fest ever.
Most of the old heads when we came around aren't around anymore.
Although I got a very nice DM from one who was a fan of the show.
Gideon, if you're listening, thank you, sir.
Who was very, everybody in Chicago was very, like, cool with us because we were all 14,
I got the first hardcore show that double cross played,
I got my license that day.
Wow.
You know?
And they had Portillo's afterwards.
It was really something.
So you drove to the show and then drove to Portillas?
Yeah,
the Portillas was like near the show.
Oh,
it was awesome.
Huge.
Somebody asked,
why are you choking Beau?
Is it because you hate him?
No.
Because I love him.
It's because I can, really.
Favorite, single favorite bid is when Colin threatened
Morgan Spurlock because he took away the supersized.
Fuck that motherfucker.
Morgan.
If you're listening, which I know you are, you piece of shit, it's on site.
Yep.
You ruined my life, you cossed to her.
Katnij Medine.
Oh, friend of the show.
Favorite things about me.
Great hugs.
We love, yeah, that's a, she'll break your fucking back.
And she's also the best promo photographer.
The best.
To ever live.
so somebody's mad that we haven't talked about Bojangles
love Bojangles I've only had it once
I would say maybe my maybe over Popeyes to me
oh in terms of chicken alone
it's my namesake so I owe it
this one's from Clurp and I want to
I think it's important
I'm bringing up the mental health question again
in case it wasn't covered in the other recorded episode
what is touring like for your emotional and mental health
how does it impact your relationships?
What resources do you have or wish you had on the road?
Clareb, this is too good a question.
She's the best.
We're two and a half hours in.
Shit.
It's terrible for your mind.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's more than anything,
the reason that I'm not going to do it full time anymore.
It's terrible for you.
In what ways does it affect you?
I think every
a single, like a bad show in a city where I've had a good show.
Oh.
Dude.
Because then it's like, then it's like, okay.
I'm ruined.
Like this is my fault somehow.
St. Louis wants me to kill myself.
You know, that's what I'm getting out of this.
it, it terribly, terribly negatively impacts your relationships, your friendships, you know,
you're on a tour, your friends are all hanging out.
You get home, they don't even know you anymore.
You miss so many jokes.
You miss so many movies?
You know many movies and games?
I didn't, I never beat Red Dead Red Dead Redemption, too.
I'm saying this for the first time in my life here.
I'm admitting it.
I never beat Red Dead Red Dead Redemption, too.
and it's because I had to leave for a tour.
Shameful.
I am fortunate enough to,
I mean, you as well, I would imagine,
if God's hate toured now,
but even when Twitching was touring,
you know, I'm sure Taylor is one of,
is if not your best friend,
you know.
Not my best friend.
But,
harm's way, I mean, James and Chris are my best friend.
So I've been very fortunate, at least with the friend thing.
Yeah.
Where it's like, that's who I would be hanging out with
for the most part.
but relationships?
Oh my God.
It's brutal.
Taylor's,
he's,
it's a different category.
Yeah,
it's brother.
He's my brother.
You're my brother and Brody's my brother.
Those are my,
those are my three brothers,
you know,
in terms of like the relationships
I have with people
where I can go,
fuck you,
what's for,
what are you eating tonight?
Yeah.
Like that's,
that's,
it's like I'm,
I'm legitimately saying like,
I hate you.
And then,
10 minutes later can be like, what's up?
20 piece.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
Who do you think has it worse?
And I think it's the latter, but I was going to say us on a tour or our partners.
Partners at home.
Partners at home 100 fucking percent.
Absolutely.
Got to walk the dogs.
They get all the bad with none of the good.
Yeah.
But it's like it's important to note for the partners that are listening to the show whose partners are touring.
they're at work, you know, touring is work.
Even if they're just sitting in the...
Even if they're sitting in the van,
it's, it is emotionally and physically taxing
to respond to a single text sometimes.
It can be.
You know what I'm saying?
Did you ever, okay,
not naming names or getting into any specifics or anything.
I'm saying vaguely, was it ever like a story,
you're reminded of a story after you've been home for a week or two
and you get the, why didn't you tell me
about this when it happened.
Is that ever?
I don't know what.
I have a hard time, I guess.
I have a hard time conveying to my partner at home what I'm doing.
Oh.
Because so much of the day is just like sitting, loading, sitting, playing, loading, sitting,
sleeping.
The way my mind works, I don't, I can't communicate 90% of the things that happened to me.
Yeah.
90% of my day is gone the second it happened.
Yeah.
So there will be months later, I'll be like, oh, yeah, I did that.
Yeah, he's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Like, what are you talking about?
And I just saw, I saw a clip of Rob Deerdeck talking about his relationship with his wife,
where he's like, now I've gotten to a point where I write everything down.
And I just send it to her.
And I'm like, here's what I did today.
You know everything.
And there's part of that that's like, damn, how do I automate that in some way?
I would love to automate that.
I just got into calendaring.
Yeah.
The Hardler calendar, baby.
Let's go.
So that's one of like five calendars I have.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
And they're all updated.
It feels good.
It does, but then I'll,
I miss something.
And I'm like,
I'm the worst person in the world.
Yeah,
you know.
What are resources you wish you had or have on the road?
I would say,
personally speaking,
see of my bandmates and other people in bands who have
long-term partners at home and stuff,
it just seems to be patience.
And that's what I run out of immediately on tour.
You do.
Waiting for someone to shower, waiting for someone to shit,
waiting for someone to get their food, waiting for someone to come load,
whatever.
I lose my mind waiting for people because I'm a very like,
oh, this has to get done. Let's do it right now.
Kind of guy.
So that makes me kind of snippy.
It does make the world of difference
Like when you're in terms of like your partner at home
Yeah getting a little chop here
In terms of
Your partner at home being patient with you
Yeah
Is
What like that's one of the most important things
That we can ask for in this life
But also it is up to you to be like
Hey I'm gonna call you at this time today
Because like you're doing a lot
I go, I owe that.
And I need, I need expressing one's needs.
And being like, I need to talk this much today.
Totally, totally valid.
But also like, right now, Lana, yeah.
I'll be, we'll be on one of the hard lore trips or something.
And I'll text her.
I'll be, I'll be worried.
I'll be like, you good?
Like, I'm, I'm sorry.
I'm busy.
She's like, I don't give a fuck, man.
My KD, right?
I'm dude, I just went 30 and four on shipment, bro.
I don't need to talk to you.
Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a, it's been huge.
She's something.
Yeah.
What's next?
Let's see.
This might be a good wrap-up question.
There's, there's 50 more.
I mean, the Discord is insane.
Uh-huh.
So if you had to pick one band's discography to give to a friend that does not listen to
hardcore, but they're open to it.
They're into maybe some entry-level rock.
What band would you choose?
Because the answer isn't hate breed, you know?
If they were already into Slayer or something, then it would be Hayprey.
What are they into?
Let's just just vanilla.
But they're like, I see these videos and that's really cool.
And I don't want them to like it if that's how they think, you know?
They're your friend, but just.
Fuck them.
Oh, my friend.
Fuck, you do we bitch.
There's got to be.
There's like the gatekeeping is good a little bit.
You know, because I think it is important that we're welcoming, of course.
Whether or not, it's a popular thing to talk about.
There are going to be people who are going to try to get into hardcore because of Coachella.
Yeah.
That we would all be better off not getting involved in hardcore.
Absolutely.
Which I'm sure scowl and knock loose would all agree with.
That's not like crazy.
But that's like one out of a hundred, you know?
Yes.
Yeah, very.
Because the other 99 are going to be there to support bands.
And let me tell you, these.
TikTok motherfuckers
pay by tickets
they buy merch
yeah
we need them
the whole the royal we
yeah needs them
because everybody benefits
yeah
so the band who's
discography I would show is
hate break
okay because there's a
there's a there's a three album trajectory
I can say
if you like the fast parts on this one
listen to this other stuff
if you like the breakdown
on this one, listen to this other stuff.
Fair enough. There's a, there's a, there's a, there's a roadmap from all from
satisfaction, perseverance, rise brutality to everything I think is worth anyone's time.
You know, I can get to scowl from hate breed. Yeah.
In, in with one thing in between, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Like the like the like six degrees of
Kevin Bacon. I can get a one degree of hate breed with any hardcore man.
Okay. You think so? You think that's true?
100%. Try me.
Okay.
Mental.
Hate breed is from Connecticut.
About two hours from Boston.
I stand corrected.
Come on.
What can I say?
Yeah.
You didn't say I couldn't use geography.
I really didn't. I really did not.
What's the ban you would pick?
Honestly, and this is not me blow and smoke.
I think the proof is just kind of in the pudding.
I think knocked loose.
it's heavy, it's catchy.
Brian's vocals are pretty distinct.
They've gotten plenty.
The proof is in the pudding in the sense that like they've gotten
probably a few thousand people into hardcore just by people watching them.
If I had to choose an older band, let's say.
Someone who's not actively already doing that.
Actively.
But I mean, hey, but I mean, hey, they.
They don't need you to show them that.
Like they heard knock loose and they were like,
show me a thing.
Okay, valid.
What's the thing?
Yeah.
I would probably go with more of a punk thing just because of my vibe.
That's not what you sit and listen to though, you know?
Now it isn't, but it's what got me here.
So what would it be?
Probably Chromex.
Oh.
I mean, that's still, they still get apocalypse now, you know?
Yeah, yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
That's a great answer, honestly.
Do you like the fast stuff?
Okay, here's this record.
Do you like the crossover stuff?
Here's this record.
Do you like the actual heavy, scary?
Here's this.
Yeah, no, it's the same ideals, you know.
Those, the same principles exist except for, you know, there's more of the singing.
So you can go, oh, if this is, if you like this,
right.
Check out scowl.
You know.
There's chromax to scow.
pipeline is one
one beat away, you know?
Haypreed's from Connecticut.
Hey, breed, scowl, promax.
All one thing.
Done.
What do you say?
We got a billion.
Why don't you scroll through?
And just if one pops out of you, you go, oh, man, that's good.
Okay.
Oh, now they're arguing about pizza.
So maybe the,
keep the arguments out of the goddamn,
when will Hardler have a fast food collab?
Not soon enough, motherfucker.
Yeah, straight up.
Oh, here's, oh, Colin, this is, this is literally, this is what I want.
Yeah.
Master Killer Tier video game original soundtrack.
Oh my God.
Bloodborne, Skyrim.
I'm giving the same rules here, okay?
Okay.
Same rules I would to Master Killer.
Skyrim is an excellent answer.
Oh, duh.
Oh, la.
He do.
He body.
Yeah, that's insane.
Soundtrack.
Full, like the full thing.
Dark Souls 3.
Demon Souls.
That's probably it.
I feel like that's a...
I would probably have to throw Red Dead
redemption.
Great soundtrack in there.
But you don't, like, could you hum part of it
or to me right now?
No.
That's what I'm saying.
Tusha.
I could tell you, you could pick a boss
from Bloodborn and I could tell you how they're
music goes.
Oh, dude, well then Halo.
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
But that's again, yeah,
no, that's a great pick.
Which one?
Commentable, first one.
I think two is the better.
You think that's the better one?
Yeah.
I just think when you would,
load up, turn on your Xbox and you're
I'm still to this day, the only person
to sing the Halo theme in the Sound City
Echo Chamber. I
that. That
is very Hans Zimmer.
It is. It's very Zimmer-esque.
He loves going, he loves palm muting a piano.
Yeah, dude, yeah.
It does.
Well, that's it.
was the rest of the messages were like arguing.
Awesome.
So it's good.
Thank you all for joining us for this very special first anniversary Q&A.
Can you believe it?
No, man.
To this, I never will.
I can't wait for the second year birthday Q&A.
We got some fun episodes plan.
We got a good stuff plan.
We got tied down coming up.
Got tied down.
We got coming up on the slate and the show.
You hear me out.
ready we got best breakdowns ever volume two had to do it we got large frederickson coming up oh my god
we got jeremy bolem too shah mori coming up we got fury of five coming up this is going to be an
incredible month and phoenix we might have we were supposed to have dying fetus they billed last
week but we might have them still but either way yeah that's uh that's a great month coming
and this is a procedurally generated show
where the things are going to happen every week in our lives
where you just blew my mind
it is it really is
there's always going to be more oh we got a real fun one too
the best best eps in seven inches of all time
that one's great
best band names of all time
best band names of all time ranking artwork
of bands discographies
because I want to do that with Metallica and then I realized
why something we should do
fast food
like tier list
like an actual
like tier maker
a real deal
tier maker of
all fast food
we could do that
easy
I go into
I turn into
little bow
love it
love when you
little bow
but this was a very
long
fun time
for both of us
we shot the shit
for like 20 minutes
before we started
yeah it's badass
that's the way
that's the way it should be
no I'm saying
even before we like clap
oh yeah
we've been here
I've been sitting here
all day. So thank you so much
for joining us.
We love you so much. Thank you. This is the
I mean, this first year was unbelievable.
The first year of a pod.
Come on. Oh my God. And it is
truly, this is not hyperbole.
Like,
Danny, the things you're seeing and the
growth and whatever is because you're listening
to it. Yeah. And telling friends.
It has nothing to do with us.
Speed was here the other day. Josh went into
Carhart and said that dude was watching the show.
So hey, shout out Carhart.
Carhart, man.
And Wicker Park.
I'll be in there.
Work in progress or just car?
No, just standard, but you know.
Blue collar pot, dude.
Dude, black collar.
Black collar goth workers.
That's who we are and that's who I am and that's who I care about.
Thank you so much.
We love you.
Bye.
We'll see you next week.
Bye.
