HardLore - Q&A Special (February 2025 Edition)

Episode Date: February 27, 2025

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What's the funniest thing you've seen in a show? A guy broke his leg and instead of going to the hospital was sat in the back of the room on a pool table doing like this. I went to a show and I broke my leg. Yeah. Is hilarious. Yeah. Imagine telling you're a coworker.

Yeah. What happened to you? Going to a concert this weekend. Let's try it. Let's try it. Let's do a little role play. Ready? All right.

Colin. What happened? I went to a concert. I broke my leg. That's hard Lord. Time. How are you, Bo? I'm doing well, Colin. How are you? Outstanding. It is, it's February. It's 2025. It's February. You know, we're cruising along this year. It's unbelievable how fast the time goes.

On the contrary, I think January may have been the longest year of my life. Yeah, a lot happened. You know, we filmed four episodes at FYA. I hope you enjoyed all of them. California was on fire. California was on fire. We all survived. The real rain came down in Washington. the sin off the trees. Everybody came together, donated, made shit happen, got through it,

it was beautiful. That's the thing you can count on with California every time is that no matter how bad it gets, the community comes together

and fixes it every time. Very much in the opposite direction. At the same time, all of that was happening, we had a polar vortex and my pipes froze and I didn't have hot water. Same time.

Just a couple of time zones over, you know? It's just the crazy. I would love the polar vortex. Let me tell you what. I had to go to the gym to shower. Fucking soft. Oh, no.

You just feel scummy. But we figured, you know, we would break in this year. We're moving along now. We're going to break in the year the same way we left last year. We're going to do a classic Q&A. They're our favorite. They're your favorite. They're the best ones.

We rarely get to just sit down and talk to each other anymore. So that's what these turn in. to, you know? Also, we did the big race at FYA. Here's how it went. Hello, welcome. It's hard Lord time. We're here at FYA Fest. As promised, it's time for the big race. Oh, the big race. Oh, the big race.

Sure, sure. We didn't bring any athletic clothing, so we're just going to do this as is. Guilty party. Guilty party. It's actually super fair because we're wearing light to medium jackets, the same pants. The same, yeah. And boots, which are very bad for what we're about

to do. We're both going to tear a quad. or something. Yeah, something's like we're gonna be Vince McMahon out of here very soon. Not in the Serial sexual pervert type way Steven in the double broken quad type way bleep all of that time for the big race here we go three two one go it was about wow we also just ate so much pizza Beau didn't eat any pizza though oh oh that were boat didn't need any pizza that's too for us to make it clear I just had five slices of Jeff pizza. Bo had none.

I have chicken and rice. But we're going to give it, Bo, earn them. It was fantastic. Hey. That's a testament to Arcterics. Ironheart. And

guilty party. Code Hardlord. The big race. It's not so big. It's not so big after all. Devastating result. I was just talking about, I am,

I didn't, not only did we both running jeans, but I didn't stretch or anything. And I'm like, so glad I didn't tear a hamstring or something. You were out of breath for about 15 minutes and I was fine. Boy, was I. Let's note that.

Listen, I got speed and I got no conditioning. I was five out of eight of an eight corner Jets pizza slices in. You had none. Oh. So we're going to have to have a rematch in proper full gear, but I want to give Boas flowers. He did win the big race. Thank you.

Of course. You earned it. But yeah, here's Q&A. So question one, Mount Rushmore, Swedish death metal. Oh, I don't. What is our separate top four Swedish death metal bands all the time? Okay. I'm a Stockholm man all day.

Over Gothenburg? Yeah. Because Gothenburg is what? Let's define. Gothenburg is a little more melodic. A little more melodic, which is surprising. Which I like. Yeah, surprising for you.

Yeah. I like a lot, but I think much like, thrash metal, melodic death metal was done so well in Gothenburg that there's not a lot of room for it to grow and continue. Interesting. Other than bands like a pawn stone who are great.

But in terms of Stockholm and outlier area's grave, dismember, entombed, and lastly, unleashed. Oh wow. Didn't even think about unleashed. wrote my down as soon as

dismember, for sure. Entombed, for sure. I think those are like, yeah, that's Chromex-Agnostic front. 100%. Question. Where is dissection from? I think Florida? Really? No, he's European.

I'm almost positive. They're European. Let's see. That weird fucker. Sweden. Beautiful. So I'm going to say dissection because I love, is it until the lights bane? Whatever that record is. the last one before he killed himself.

It's fucking awesome. And then I'm going at the gates. I know it's more metal core, but dude. So you're taking a little road trip to Gothenburg and then you're headed back. Yeah, I'm headed right back. But I like to get it out there. But dude, I wasn't into at the gates growing up. I kind of missed that kind of metal core, which is the best kind of metal core, like if we're being.

Yeah, but I mean, melodic death metal, I wouldn't call. But you know how they get lumped in is like kind of the guy. fathers of like sure but that's like i mean yeah to me sepeltura arise and beneath the remains those are death metal records right so it's the same thing as when people call them thrash metal it's like no like if that's thrash metal and tuned to thrash metal yeah i'm totally with you yeah i'm totally it's the same type of music so metalcore as a descriptor of at the gates makes my ass hurt but when we toured with them it was like oh like it was like an immediate like, oh, not only are they awesome, they're like cool as hell and down.

Tumba is like punk as fuck. Just cool. And a great deal of bangers. Great deal of bangers. And they didn't play on Thomas Lindberg did not play on many famous pop songs we learned. That's correct. Which is fine. Totally forgot.

Can we please get a Lars drumming impression? Show me your best Lars. Yeah. Oh, dude. I can't stand up. But, yeah, it's the. the fucking yeah and then the China

for the ride China for the ride China for the ride China ride should be amongst the greatest human innovations in history right right yeah like it should be

the heaviest thing ever it should be but boy is it not but a loss I think it's so that honestly and this is total spitball but I think it's so that he can like keep time

and it sounds he doesn't have to keep time it's like one less limb to really worry about, it could be sloppy. So like, you know how like, because it's just kind of, it's kind of be washed. Exactly. It's just washed out.

That's kind of how I, because he doesn't hit very hard. I get it, man. Cheat until you, until you make it. Somebody asked, ex-Archangel X asked thoughts on Archangel? I have no real. Gets me every time. I have no real opinion on Archangel. No, me neither.

I would say it's like, uh, I think, I think, I think if there's, Four bands to me that define European hardcore. Okay. I would say True Blue. Kickback, obviously. Yep. Congress and Liar, I consider one pick. Congress for sure. And honestly, maybe Rise and Fall?

I'd go Rise and Fall, kickback, main strike for like that kind of that kind of shit. And then honestly, Archangel isn't really in there for me. Like knuckle dust. You know, like something like that. Oh, I mean, if UK counts, then that's... At the time, UK counted. They were in.

They were in at the time. Yeah. I think Belgium, I would love to do a full episode on 8,000 Belgium. Dude. The way that when I found that as a kid, finding that all these hard insanely heavy

but like technical bands were all straight-edge. And then also like dead stop, justice, like the other kind of weird bands. The 2000s. Yeah. Dude, I remember 86 mentality played Chicago and Deadstop, or I'm sorry, Deadstop 86 mentality

toured together and they played Chicago, but 86 mentality didn't play the show for some reason. Deadstop played the intro and everyone lost their fucking mind. It was all, it was just like a very, I know exactly what you mean is like, oh, these, like Belgium is America. Belgium's unbelievable. It's American hardcore and like a little. I think Belgium

Bledgered a huge chunk of Europe in the late 90s and the 2000s and now Scotland is holding it the fuck down How cool is that? I'm obsessed with them

I really want to go A new segment I kind of want to start Colin a little late into the episode but who cares? What are you listening to? It's a great question. I want to get into two things.

What did you eat today? What did you listen to today? Okay today for dinner I had this like cornstarch fried chicken thing that Lana made over like Korean rice cakes unbelievable what am I listening to

I'm obviously listening to this split knuckle record still I'm listening to the fire starter record a lot I'm listening to another undisclosed record that we're putting out a lot oh I've been I play drums and downpresser now so I've been learning everything just in case

of course a lot of parts that pissed me off in a way where I go fucking kale while playing them. Did he do everything? Did he drum on everything? As of Don't Need a Reason.

So he did both LPs. Gotcha. I mean, that's... And there's a thing he does where he goes, do do, do gotta do do gotta do gotta do gotta do gotta and it pisses me off every time.

Because it's the right hand. The opposite, yeah. Yeah. Like it shouldn't, that shouldn't need to be there and he still put it there. He's a scumbagged. God rest of soul,

I love him. Wouldn't have it any other. way. What about you? What have you been listening to? Nothing like literally exclusively crowbar. I'm on the biggest fucking crowbar kick. Are you okay? Not particularly,

but it is perfect. I've realized that it is perfect if you're feeling down, if you're feeling pumped, if you're vibing around the house. There's a gym record. Dude. There's a laundry record. It's crazy. There's a driving record. It's crazy.

I, Equilibrium is laundry. I love this. Yeah, keep going. Broken glass is gym. That's all gym, dude. Sonic excess is depression. Wow.

What's the one with, what's the newer one with cemetery angels on it? Oh, it's got a name that I can never remember. No, you just said that. It's the one with Seminary Angels on it. That one is post-Gim. You're going home. You did it. What is the odd fellow?

Post-Chuffellows is driving home from the funeral, you know? Wow. So a heavy one. Very brutal. Very brutal. I mean, you might get in a car accident on the way. You never know. And lastly, what is the self-titled?

Who, self-titled is like, I hate this guy. I've made a new enemy. I've decided this guy is my enemy. That's the road rage record. Road rage record. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I can't, I'm on a huge kick.

I can't get enough crowbar. I've realized I don't have. Good luck getting over there. I don't have any shirts or records. So I'm like starting. That's my new journey. I have one modern shirt, you know, but like nothing. And, uh, if you got crowbar stuff.

Yeah. Sell it to MadVenture. Go to MadVenture. Sell it to him so that I can get it. So that we can get it. And today I had a, uh, a plain bagel, dry and some overnight oats with, uh, protein. I jimmed.

I did gym, by the way, before we recorded it. Okay. And then, uh... Dude, you know what I had for breakfast today that was like revolutionary? Hit me. I've never seen anyone do this. Hit me. I'm sure they do it all the time.

Hash browns on the bottom. Like stiff, like the kind of patty ones, like the McDonald's ones. Oh. But like avocado toast out of the hash bread. Oh, that's a... Huh. It was hash brown, a like spicy avocado spread. Yeah.

Yeah. I can get. down on that. Yeah, that sounds great. With some chili oil and some chili flakes? Beautiful. Get the fuck out of here. But yeah, and then I got two cups of rice and a pound of turkey I'm making after the episode, and that's dinner. You're on that boring bulk.

Or eating lean, baby. You're suffering to return harder. I get it. I really am. Do you all wash your legs in the shower, or do you let the water get to it? Dude, that video, okay, there's a video where a girl kind of marks the she marks something. I forget

how it goes. Oh, the guy just doesn't use water in general, or it doesn't use soap in general. He only uses water. Well, that's obviously stupid and he should. And she says, my love, like, how do you wash your legs? And he goes, I let the water run. And he's like, what are you talking about? I use water.

Drives me so insane. And I think it's a white people thing. I mean, it has to be. It's just real. And it's, we don't use wash claws. We don't. There's all kinds of problems that are unfaced. When you were growing up, was it bar soap?

Oh my God all day. All bar soap, dude. Dude, I didn't, I was not taught to bathe, I'll be honest. Straight up. I really had to teach myself. Neither was I. I think there's some kind of cultural white thing where they're like, I'm not messing with that.

You can learn to bathe yourself. Whatever you do in there is your business. That's your business, pal. So I was left without a washcloth, only so. So I'm pretty sure I was the smelly kid until like sixth grade. That's right around when I figured it out too. Yeah. And then when you figure it out, you're like, I have to solve this by any means necessary.

I don't want to stink no more. And now that's why Manscapes comes in handy so much because I'm petrified of stinking. Thank God I have these tools. I mean, I'm not going to lie getting some kind of scrubber or some kind of body scrubber device that you can. Huge. I mean, that's everything. It keeps me feeling great. But yeah.

I agree. I probably can confidently say I didn't wash my legs until I was in middle school, I would say. I forgot that was the question. Yes, I do wash my legs. Yes. depending on what what what what what what what what what what what what what I've done that day there's different levels of night shower I mean I know I was Akeel wants me to wash my ass and shut the fuck up and I I promise I wash my ass no matter what okay ass is getting washed every time I'm in there we know but we can't shut but but the legs if I'm going out

after yeah legs are clean as a whistle if I'm going to if it's a bedtime shower yeah I don't need it just depends on what I did that day you know yeah exactly I've been there's going to be clean I've been in the sauna so I got a clean, but I saved that. It's nice. I don't know. Yeah, but I get a scrub, a scrub a dub. There you go. Would you rather fight a chicken every time you get in a car or an orangutan with a sword once a year?

Arangutan with a sword, easy. I feel like... I would show a great deal of mercy. To the orangutan? I would never kill. You think you would beat an orangutan with a sword? With a sword, like one v. one sword? You get the sword or the orangutan has the sword?

Oh. I heard that the orangutanan has a sword. So only he gets a sword? It's not fair fight. It's not fair at all. Okay. So if you have the sword, then yeah. Well, once a year after the first time, I'm going to be like, I better get a sword for

for next time this happens. So I'll have a sword, okay? Yeah. And I will be very good with that sword by the second fight. Right. Okay. So yeah, either way. I think...

Chicken in a car would be like, come on, you know? No. I don't have time for this today. orangutan, I can prepare. I can prepare. You have a year, yeah. I still think I'm like, yeah, you're right. You don't have a car. And what a hassle, but I still take Uber.

It says. Yeah, exactly. And there would be a chicken. It would be a chicken in my goddamn Uber. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. One event I can prepare for versus every day.

Train like a bad, man. Sometimes, both times a day. Yeah. Oh, that's a good point. The amount of chickens I'd have to defeat is the carbon emission would be, out of control. Yeah, but imagine the protein. You'd be,

but I wouldn't want that one. I'd be pounding it to death, you know? It's no good. True. What's your personal focus is looking ahead at 25 to 25? I set a personal goal to have abs for at least like a month. That's all I want. I just want to see if I can do it and then I'm over it forever.

I don't give a shit. You know the one time I had abs what my diet was? What? A pokey bowl a day? Yeah. And an entire box of cheeses. That's probably like... I worked my macros in a way where it was one

poke bowl and one box of cheese. How many calories are in those... But I worked out for four hours a day. Yeah, right. How many calories are in a box of cheeses? You're really good at this. Probably like $1,100. Dude, this is a new skill we haven't talked about.

Yeah. We figured out, was it FIA or was it Buffalo? Is that F. I'm saying it's 9 to $1,100 for boxes. Well, now I have to check. Will you check for me while I'm telling the story? Would you mind? Sure.

Check on a box. We were at Wawa in Orlando and I would grab something and ask Colin and he would just know, like within 10 calories. This can't be real. This says 3,000. I mean, that's where mine goes to. Like, it seems like it would be at so many to me. Is it the same time? Did I really do that?

every day. If you're working out for four hours, I mean... Yeah, I mean, I crushed fucking... It was like three weeks of Boxer Cheeses today. And I was shredded. So do that. Give that a shot. Yeah.

What about you? What do you got? I got two LPs to write. Oh, Jesus Christ. I'll keep it simple there. Yeah. And get my guitar here working, you know, all the time, no matter what. Yeah.

Yeah. What's your biggest fitness achievement ever? Two plates feels pretty good to bench. It's not, you know, it's one of those things for like for real gym guys. It's like, yeah, it's kind of like the starter. Yeah, but you say that, but it's like such a tiny population in the entire world that can do that. I read today that it's single digit people can do that. So that's pretty incredible.

That's cool. That feels good, I would say. Mine would be a half marathon that I did one time with Alec from my apartment to his mother-in-law's house. I'll never do it again. 13.1 miles? Something like that. I think exactly. Rice.

Both ate entire pieces after it was unbelievable. What is the first piece of physical media you ever owned? Michael Jackson Thriller. Really? Yeah, that was the... Owned, what does that mean when you're a kid? The first one I bought with money that I had. I think that, that or it was bought for you and you remember.

It's going to be a video game then. My own money would be Sepuletura again. So that makes sense. That's crazy. Yeah. But I had a guide, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Before that, I remember on my ninth birthday, my dad for my birthday,

wrapped up a bag of trash, had me open it. And I was like, uh, and he said, said just kidding and gave me a Nintendo 64 quick you know pretty good alternative pretty good yeah so so and I and I got golden eye with that so that was probably the first one I remember right it's physical media right it's a great gift that's absolutely physical media yeah lyrical Mount Rushmore wow okay let's think I got one for sure we both got one for sure I'm positive Pete or one big Pete Pete my God because unbelievable. He nailed everything.

Every single thing has a way of being romantic and hard. Yeah. At the same time. The most beautiful thing you've ever read and then... Disgusting. Went down to my basement, confused and depressed. Put Black Sabbath on. You know?

Yeah. That's a lyric. Raise the blade in hand, ten slashes in each arm. Beautiful. Jesus. So that's... Good shit. He's won, for sure.

To Pete, Glenn, obviously. Yeah, Glenn's in all time. Glenn's in all the... Gunn has to be just by default for like what he was able to fit. And even in simplicity, that's a really good one. Sometimes this repeating something simple can be so fucking boring. And what is a hybrid moment, you know? What is it?

But I got, I'm in him all the time. I know now. Give him one. I don't, I mean, a crazy lyricist is Carl. I don't know if I would put him on Mountain Rushmore, but, like, reading Earth Crisis lyrics is insane. Smart, smart guy. Very smart, wordy. Thesaurus.

Dolores, Cranberries might be up there for me. Oh, Morrissey. Maas. Yeah, Morrissey's like the easy. Big. I mean. Come on. Easy.

Guy's a fucking, he might be a, I guess he's not a nonce now that we know what a nonce means. Yeah, now we know what that means. But he's like a loser, but my God. Lyrically, unscise. Touchable. The most, like pound for pound more stealable things, the most ripped off, maybe? Possibly. Because any, all of it seems like, oh, yeah, this is cool.

Like, it's all passively with zero effort cool. That's crazy. It's hard to do. Bo, this is a great question. Top five Chicago bands. Okay. I'll say, like of all genres, Kind of do, I don't mean do all genres.

Yeah. Like alternative. Yeah. I've been, in addition to crowbar, I've been on a huge naked raygun kick. Naked Raygon. They don't get their flowers. They're fucking awesome. They're incredible musicians and catchy.

Alkaline trio. Raygon, Alkaline trio. Uh, the killer. Obviously. Obviously. The best of the three. fallout easily. Nachos.

And honestly, Fall Out Boy. Respect. I mean, Fallup Boy through Infinity, in my opinion, are batting a thousand. Like,

no skips. I mean, I'm with you. I'm a falling boy guy. So I'm a, it's like an, and the fact that they actually came from legit hardcore.

So, yeah. Yeah, I'd say fallout. Three out of four or five? Three out of four, yeah. That's huge. Huge. Yeah, it's crazy. That's 80%.

Was there anything your parents said was too far in music that you did? Either iconography, band member, antics, or was everything fair game? You got anything? Oh, man. I got something. Hit me. Have I told the anal-cunt story? No.

So back in the day, kids, you used to go into Soul Seek chat rooms, go to someone's library. you would type like, hey, who has Gorilla Biscuits start today? And somebody would be like, I do. Connected them. They're out there still doing that today, but it's very much more niche. You're all using Spotify. Yeah. It used to go into their actual, like, whatever folder they allowed Spotify to get into

and then download whatever you wanted. Right. One time, Bridge Nine used to have a chat room and people would be like, hey, my library's open. You would go in, I would go in, right click, download all. Like, you could skip duplicates and just like, get. Give me everything this person's got. And some people had like 20,000 songs or whatever at the time. So that was my thing.

Yeah. As a teenager, it was like having the sickest, like collecting and building my library, which still exists today in my Apple Music. Right. Which is why I greatly prefer Apple Music. But now that they, when they started the ICloud library, it started like replacing files and deleting shit. I know.

I resent the people who think that technology, modern technology is bad. we need to retrofy everything, but they have a point to an extent. Like, I do miss having an iPod and just having my shit. I might do it at some point. Yeah. You know? Because you can, like, update them now and make the battery last. But so anyway, downloaded a whole thing.

It was on my dad's computer. First band, anal cunt. My dad's a very conservative Christian man, especially at that time. And he fucking flipped. Wow. My dad's really cool when it comes to, like, art. And, like, his favorite shit is, like, mob movies and the Sopranos. He, like, he understands vulgarity for the sake of art, right?

Like, you don't have to agree with something to create. It's art. This is how a mobster would talk. Why would I? It's fine, right, right. You know? Not, not the case. Not anal kind.

Not with Mr. Putnam. No, no, no. He was not down with anal kind. And then he read the song titles, which I can't even say. Look them up if you're curious because Jesus Christ. So that was my story. I will say Anything

My mom has helped write a couple songs Lyrically And I think she's been bummed on him every time Really Yeah like Just like what I'm talking The subject matter Like a rival on

On disharmony I don't even think that one That one is really particularly offensive But she took issue with it at a time She just think it was dark Yeah I don't think she I think she just had it had trouble

showing people. My dad never gave a shit. He's just cool. He just always understood like, it's art. Yeah. They're going to do it. They're going to do what they're going to do. That's how my mom is too.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think anything was particularly too far. Oh, God. Another time, Harmsway made the ugliest shirt. It's a black shirt with brown ink, just hideous early 2000s idea. It was a picture of Luke from the killers, a ram that he has on his, a hat on his wall and we took a picture of and put it on his shirt

and said harm's way fuck God Dad's awesome Dad found that one too Wasn't Were you still living at home at the time Um well I had a weird thing

growing up where before I was 18 When I could have Like my dad was supposed to be able to see me until I was 18 right But before that he recognized I had autonomy he wasn't trying to blah blah I had a car I was going to go wherever I wanted He said, come over whenever you want, don't worry about it. And I was playing World Warcraft like a motherfucker.

So I would go over. But it wasn't like a mandated thing. And we just kind of, it started around the Bush administration and like gay marriage. Once we started disagreeing about that, we just, so he saw that. I was out of the house. I was out of his house for sure. And we didn't, we never really recovered, to be honest. That was kind of the start of it.

Interesting. So to this day, there's still some dissension there? Oh, God, yeah. Okay. Understood. You know what you do? Top four hardcore records, 2020 to present?

That sounds like an episode. 2020 to present? Yeah, off the top of my head, you know, it's... Save it. That's an episode. Okay, okay. I'm going to write the top.

Coming soon. Yeah. Best records of the 2020 is coming soon. 20, 20. Bottom five tour experiences. Oh, this is great. Yeah. Colin.

Bottom five. Should we knock out a communal one? Yeah, absolutely. Which one was worse? Those are both bottom five tours at all time. All time, dude. So what specific things can we talk about that are? I remember the lowest moment of the European tour.

Yeah. Was not even a moment of low depth for me. It was after. the single most grueling drive on the tour. Yep. We're all miserable. Was that going to Poland? Or was it?

I think so. Yeah, getting to Warsaw. We get, there's that one. Yeah. And then there was one where we got there. We left the show immediately and got there at like 5 p.m. And we're loading in stuff. And Andrew Morrissey just cannot wait to get inside and brush his teeth.

And as he's about to. Brush his teeth drops his toothbrush on the floor. Oh, no. And like on the dirties floor. And this isn't even particularly terrible, but I'm telling you, after the couple days we had and the night we had and the drive we had, I think it felt like we all dropped that toothbrush in that moment. It was just like, dude, come here, man.

I'm so sorry. You was pissed. Like, there's a beautiful thing that came out of that tour because it did make us, we fused together as a group. Yeah, we got shitted into a diamond. There aren't many bands. And I say this not trying to sound like a dick. I'm just saying like we had rooms at the Ibis.

You guys were staying at the Wien Arena. It was a billion fucking degrees. And we said guys stay in our rooms. Like we have floors, but stay in the room for God's sake. You know what I mean? It's just like stuff like that. It's like I look back on that fondly. But man, just the fucking.

man, just the fucking the day in Paris and just all that shit. Oh, man. So that was rough. And then the disarmic... The day and Paris was pretty dope. I mean, that was cool, but then the fucking

the promoter. Yeah, the promoter after. Kyle just missing the train. Fucking Kyle. God damn it. What do I do? And then the disharmonic rust tour was, that was disappointing

just because of what we all thought it should. 10 year anniversary any day and too. It's just what we all thought it should have been. It was like, this is it. Yeah. The records are out, guys. This is what we've been working towards our whole lives. We're with our buds. We're doing it. Bart in the ass. Bottom five, I couldn't tell them. Bottom five.

Give me one other low one. Yeah, I think I can do that. You shitted yourself for like 10 hours straight. That was the worst. I mean, I've told that here many times, but like, that was probably the worst single day I've ever lived, like physically. And you've had your appendix out. I've had, that was crazy. That was awesome. When I tell people that, when I tell doctors that, they can't believe that I thought, I've told that on here, right?

I don't, I don't think I know this story. I think, come on, you have to. You do for sure. We really quickly bonded about having our appendixes out each, but not, I don't think you told the story. I'm 99% for sure I have, but I, and, and, you know, and, you know, and, you know, If I haven't, here it is. I thought I had gas. So I took a whole bunch of laxatives. Nothing happened. Next day, I'm like, something's wrong.

I better make a doctor's appointment. They can't even get me into the next day. So I wait another day. On the way of the doctor, I'm like, pretty hungry. You know what I haven't had a while? Burger King. So I had a double whopper chicken fry, large fry meal. Sucked it down, dude.

Evaparated it. You've never eaten anything this fast in your whole life. Because I got a doctor. I'm like, I got a doctor's point in five minutes. I got to get this down. I got to eat something. Right. I get to the doctor.

They touched me for one second. They're like, appendicitis, go to this ER. I drive to that ER stuff to the gills. I'm like, well, thank God I hate. I'm feeling good other than this. Hopefully I should soon, since it's gas. Get to the ER and they're like, well, if you haven't had anything to eat, we can get you into surgery right away.

And I'm like, about that. I had an unbelievable meal just now. You had a double up for a while, doctor. They're insane still. It's incredible of what they're doing with this thing. And so I have to wait another day overnight to get surgery. My appendix has ruptured. So it hasn't burst.

Yeah, same. That's exactly what happened to me. It ruptured. But it's about to burst. It's about to go. And that's 100% my fault, I guess. Because you ate. If I was, imagine we were pilgrims.

Oh, we'd be dead. Yeah. I think it's like an 82. percent likelihood of fatality. I would have been 26 years old. I was, dude, I was 19. These are, you know, evolutionary things. This is, this is population control.

That's just proof of medical science being incredible. 100%. Vaccines are great. Definitely. We're living longer. Medicine is good. This one is very good. Give me the jab.

Jab me on the ass all day. That's all you. I'll guinea pig any medication, you know. Try to think of, um, Oh, easily the lowest day on tour that Harms Way has ever had was when we had the trailer stolen. Yeah, that sucks. The emotional roller coaster of, I sat on the curb and thought I was flying home. Like I thought band is over.

And this is day negative one. Literally, it's day one. It's we did an off day on our way there in Vegas, had the trailer stolen overnight. And I, you know, we calculated about 30 grand lost. It was more than that. It was everything that we had. And the sentimentality of it as well. Oh, yeah.

It's just so... If Farrar exceeds 30 grand. Of course. And, you know, then the whiplash from that to donations and getting some stuff back and getting money back and they being able to send that money to donate what we, you know, any proceeds or anything. And again, the community and all the cool things. Every time, baby. And we went straight to fucking L.A. You know, we did San Diego.

And then the next day was the L.A. show. And we had guitars. had gear, we were set. And that was a great show, great set. Great show. That's awesome. Yeah. Which producer do you think could have saved sane anger and or death magnetic?

Now that's interesting. Kirpaloo. Wow. Somebody said Taylor Young is his qualify. But Kirpaloo, I think, is not only the ultimate master of tone, drums-based guitar all around. I do think he would have been the one to just be like, guys, this doesn't sound good. Why don't you just let me make it sound good? I'm going to say, well, he doesn't really, I was going to say Butch, but he also, as far as I know, kind of similar to Kirk doesn't really produce.

Yeah, Kurt don't produce so much as. So who's like a producer, who's someone who would like take this shitty skeleton and make it a half bearable skeleton, you know. Jerry Finn, probably. There you go. Yeah, RIP. Was he alive at the time? Fucking God. 2000s, early 2000?

Yeah, that's, I mean, his last record was years of refusal to. Okay, beautiful. What a fan. And that thing sounds incredible. It's the best sounding Morrison record. It sounds unbelievable. Sing the sorrow sounds unbelievable. Yeah.

So that's, I think you really, you need that. You need somebody to take the shit and refine it down and do it like a... You need Kurt Ballou and Jerry Finn. To refine the songs and the sounds. There we go. Done. Good answer. Easy.

How did you come to hear warning? I saw them in Belfast to like 50 people. A few years later had much more traction. It's still amazed how much they've recognized now. There's been an elite society since the late aughts. Right? Would that be the 2000s? The aughts?

Since the late aughts of people like me, my brother, Sabah, Brian Ortiz. Not many other warner, like, OG. warning heads out there who have been preaching the gospel the whole time. Just people weren't always listening. Now I've got this amazing weekly propaganda vehicle, you know? Yeah. Or I can say this and people go, oh, warning. Which is beautiful.

I never heard of them. Really? I bet you, Andy from nachos was a big, is a big warning guy. If I had to put money down, that's like the one person who I could even see bringing it up. Yeah. I mean, that's just like the best most emotional Did Taylor show them to?

What? Did Taylor show them to you? Maybe. I just think that was something we discovered at the same time. Wow. A fun. And loved it. Holy grail band that you have never seen live but want to see live.

All the main members have to be alive. The band to me is Demu Borgier. They're all alive? I mean, they're just an active band, but they can't play not in fucking yours. Europe because they have a whole orchestra and choir. It's just surprising me that they can't hire out local shit. Dude, you'd be surprised.

I tried to hire a choir for Sound and Fury and none of them wanted to say the word bitch. Right, right. So imagine a 30-song set list about Satan. Yeah. Most choirs are out. They've got their sick-fuck Norway choir. Yeah. Who will say whatever.

And they've got these amazing musicians and, an entire fucking symphony with them that knows the songs as well as they do, I think they are just comfortable traveling with them and maybe don't need to play the States. They need to play something like fucking Coachella. Right, yeah, something that's like, our production costs is a million.

Yeah. And then you're going to pay us on top of that. And then you're going to do it. Also kind of in Norway, I would love, I've never seen Immortal. That would be awesome. I saw a bot. That seems possible.

Yeah, it does. right? And I saw Abat do his solo shit and he played Immortal songs, but you know, I'd like to see the band. The guy, yeah. But also, dude, kind of a cop-out because it's not really a band. Bjork. Never seen Bjork.

Dying to see Bjork. Have you watched that new alpha music thing? I started to when I got distracted by something. Did you watch it? It looks awesome. Yeah. I had a chance to see her at Pitchfork in Chicago 2010 and we went to Europe

and I missed it. It was the last time. She'll be back. Yeah. Mount Rushmore, straight edge frontman. Here we go. Great question. Carl Beakner.

Okay. Mark Porter. That's a Mark, yep. And just the ultimate irony, one and two. Yeah. Ray Capo. Yeah. Three.

And probably Pat Flynn. I think that's a, you, there's a definite argument there. Like who? Yeah, I mean, you got to go modern and it's like... If you're going to have one, that's the flagship hardcore band to this day. Right. You know? Yeah, I'm with you.

I think that's a good answer. For several generations of hardcore music listeners. I would go Carl, I fully agree. I would go Porter 100%, Ray 100%, and then Jack Cho Kelly from Slapshot, Last Right, just as hard as it gets. That's my favorite. So we both got a Boston. Both got a Boston. Two sides of Boston.

What are your Grail Records shirts, other things you collect? One of them is right there. What do we got? Halloween, 7-inch. Oh, baby. You know, once you pointed out, I can see it clear as day. That's nice. Yeah, she's back there.

And I got the wall O-Taggart back there, too. But records that I own? Does it say hope to collect or that you own? Other things you collect. I think it just says Grail records and shirts. Okay. Like grail that I don't have? Yeah, yeah.

I want to hear that. I want to cough cool, man. Wow. I need a misfits cough cool. That's crazy. I got to get one. I mean, it's going to take me a while. But like...

For those of you don't know, that's a 1978 two-song single. 500 copies pressed that we know of. The going rate is $5,000 to $10,000. Same for, I would love an Earth AD. Like a yellow, green, Earth AD? Yeah. Same price. I don't have either of, obviously.

I would love Division I champs on gold. The story that will eventually talk to them about, about them throwing it into the shore is like awesome. Of course. I want to know about that. I have every Metallica and Type O record, so I'm good there. But the, oh, oh. The last right seven inch.

Speaking of Jack, Jack Kelly. The last right seven inch, two song seven inch, played one show, put out one record. That was it. It just fucking awesome. What about shirts? What's a grail shirt of yours? Like, you get it and it fits perfectly.

Mine is the demise shirt. Really? Just. I want the demise shirt. You just want to. Boy, oh boy. Been doing pretty good on shirts. MadVentures.com.

Code Hardle. Yeah, straight up. Thank you, MadVisage. MADDVintage.com. Code Hardler 15. Been doing pretty good on shirts. I'm not going to lie. Grail.

Yeah, the one you've always wanted. You, I couldn't wear it, but you have one. You have the white asshole type of a shirt. Yeah, it's absolutely unwearable.

A hundred percent would never wear it, but like, who doesn't want that? It's incredible. The red Wolfmoon shirt would be cool. Again, I don't think. think I couldn't wear it. If it has the paw on it, though, it's got to have the paw print.

It's so red. It's so red. A shirt that's too red is just too red. It's oppressive. It's simply too red. I would say, you know what? I'll meet with you. An OG misfit shirt, like a horror business shirt.

Just like an OG worn finish shit. Like Feene Club shirt printed in the basement type shirt? Could be. I always prefer a shirt from a shirt. show. Okay. A non-mail order shirt is my preferred, like, story.

Yeah, but even those, they printed themselves in that same basement. There you go. I just think that's, that's cool. Like, I know somebody who's got one. I'll, I'll set you up. It's not going to fit you. Yeah, well, that, well, you, yeah. Like the shirt that Rollins is wearing in that picture where he's meeting Doyle, I want

that shirt, you know? And it would never fit you. He's, I can't imagine he's a very tall guy, you know? He's jacked, but on what kind of. Fray. Rollins? I don't know. Yeah.

You think he's short? Let's see. He's 5-9. Five-nine. He's just about my height. Yeah. Maybe it'll pay. You should see if he's still gone.

Hank. Let's see. Top 5 jersey bands. Fury 5, obviously. Okay. E-Town, obviously. Floor punch, obviously. And then I would say second to nine.

And do, do Richie bands count as Jersey? Fuck yeah. Like Underdog is from Jersey, you know? I think, I mean, I think they had a shirt that said Underdog NYC. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, bummer.

Fifth Jersey band. The goat fifth jersey band. The Mongloids. And I'll tell you why. Yeah. Because Greg is New Jersey Strait. Period. I love it.

I'm going to say, Floor Punch, turning point, saves the day. Come on. And lifetime. Dude. Lifetime and save the day.

Lifetime counts saves the day doesn't. Bullshit. Lifetime or saves the day was playing with hardcore bands at the same time. I don't care. It's not a hardcore band. That's a pop punk band.

That's the best pop punk band. Why does lifetime count? I don't know. Morally, ethically. I don't know. It just says there's, you know,

I can make the argument all day of like, it's a moral compass and not a genre music. Saves a day. No goddamn Horrible Man. Love them. They opened for Reach the Sky and Bain on a tour. So did my chemical romance, brother.

You're going to call him a hardcore band? No. I know that you don't think that. I can't. I would ignite. I would self-immolating. Here's my fifth one is my chemical romance. Fuck.

Somebody asked, does Bo genuinely still think Marauder are harder than hate breed and typo are heavier than D-aside? Yeah. Yeah. I think did it say harder or heavier? Which did it say for which? Marauder, harder than hayprey. I know that you still think that.

I 100% think that. And I think that typo is heavier than DSI by far. The amount of people on that Hayprey tour came up to me and mentioned that agreeing with me because obviously people aren't going to come up and disagree with me. But the confirmation bias I received has been plentiful. I would love to compare confirmation biases. We would love to see that, wouldn't we? We would love to see that. Somebody asked,

Mount Rushmore Victory Records releases. Oh, fuck. You're so much better with release. I know the bands, but you're better with releases. Favorite satisfaction. Yeah, that's number one. Obviously.

Fury of five at war with the world. Blood for blood. Oh. Which one? You know? spent my last breath. Probably, let me double check that as victory.

Okay. I'm going to jump in and say, birth is pain. Oh my God. That was that victory? Birth is pain? Because it's either that or justice. So either way, it's great.

I think justice is Death Wish. Really? Yeah, birth is pain is victory. There we go. That's an incredible top four. Absolutely. Yeah, I would go, I would go satisfaction.

at war with the world. Spend my last breath. Birth is pain, honestly. Dude, there's something to, like, what victory had was so sick. Like, even down to, like, the bulldog. Like, it was sick. Yeah, I mean, if they had only paid any of them,

then it could be still that cool today. Is Keepers of the Faith victory? Hmm. No. Who put that up? Certainly not victory. They were, no, because they were trust killed. Can you check?

Originally, yeah, there's no fucking way. It's actually, Century Media. Century Media. Top five Fortnite skins. I can contribute to this. John Wick. Yeah, you can't.

Come on. John Wick. Oh, yeah, the Keanu one is just insane. It's awesome. Him doing anything is incredible. I like a lot of the cursed ones, like the big chili pepper guy. Like that.

I'm loving him. I like the corn guy. I hate the hot. hot dog guy. I love a bird, like the eagle. Okay. With the eyes just bulging out of his head,

incredible. Family guy was obviously... Peter Griffin's skin existing got me to download Fortnite. Right. There you go. Man, I think that's... That's enough.

I'm trying to think there was... Were they Marvel? They did Marvel ones, didn't they? Of time. Yeah. I remember seeing a couple of Marvel ones that I thought was cool. I don't know. Only played a little while.

Bosch, why should I use your pedal in my bass chain? Dude, come to find we made a sick ass bass pedal. There's something about the way that that pedal handles low frequency. I'm kind of recommending it more, not more, but I'm recommending it heavily. The way that you can dial in the low, the mid, and the high is very, very much. very, very conducive to getting a nice, dirty, heavy bass tone. With the buzzsaw turned up? The buzzsaw, you can blend in a little bit.

It depends on the application, on like the band, I would say. But it's like, we saw bad beat. Yeah. She was using it. Sounded great. It sounded great. It sounds, we didn't really ever expect that, but it sounds awesome. That's why you should just.

I love that. Isn't that nice, you know? It is. It's a nice little surprise. Do you have a band that you first couldn't connect with? until a specific song when you over and their whole discography

made sense. Type O is the the one. My favorite band of all time, gravitational constant, was the song. I'm sure there are more.

Definitely. Love You to Death was mine. What are some others? There's definitely others. Like I don't like this band. And then I hear a song and I go, I like this band.

And then everything else makes sense too? Baroness was a band that I didn't like and on the purple, the purple record came out and they have they got riffs man dude one of the first songs it's like um shock me the shock me song

it's like probably one of their biggest songs I heard that I went oh that's a good hook you know and it was just like oh okay this band Brock's dude Danzig right of course her black wings was like what the fuck

this is everything I like where did this come from oh yeah that's crazy what a track what was the misfit song that got you, Colin. Probably Astro Zombies? Just a beautiful... Yeah.

Just like, what the fuck? Best hook I've ever heard. Yeah, yeah. That's great. That's amazing. The guy's writing fucking hooks as a 20-year-old. I don't get it.

I don't understand how he did what he did. He doesn't ever need to write a song again. He doesn't need to. Manscape.com has this collection of products, Colin, that I've been dying. It's so true. I've been dying to talk about. So true.

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And that's for my penis and balls? That's where I use it. I use the beard trimmer for my beard. Okay. You know, I use the body scrumber, the body wash. I use the foot duster for my feet. They got a product for just about anything. Now, let's say I wanted some kind of liquid talc product on my freshly trimmed balls.

Not only do they have that, they have it in a spray bottle. Really? Spray it on them balls. This is unbelievable. Other bits. Hey, do your thighs ever chafe? Spray it. Wow. This is huge. I just saw for our hairless gentlemen or ladies out there, I just saw they have a head shaver, the bald shaver. Yeah, I got one of those for Mac and the new thing.

Beautiful. Let's get it. Can you, is that coming? Oh, you know what? I'm working on that. Okay, I'm going to have Mac from Cosmic Joke. Yeah. Cut his bald ass head live for the show so that we can display.

Just how powerful. powerful it can be. But hopefully, I'm trying to get, and this is not Manscape Related, I'm trying to get him to grow his hair for six months to a year. How does it grow? Insane.

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Favorite restaurant experience in Europe? in Europe. Do we eat anywhere good? Together, no. Separately in Paris, I ate great. Ober, pink mama and Obermama are like an Italian place in France that is incredible. And there's a place called Chez Janu as this chocolate moose. I remember you talking about that.

Thing that we were calling Le Poupu that we love. So go get Le Poupu at Chez Janu. You're going to love it. I don't, I have eaten good in Europe. It's just difficult. That's all. Yeah. Hellfest catering.

Unbelievable. Yeah, Lemmy was sucking it down when I was there. That is sick. Isn't that crazy? I seen him eat, dude. Yeah, you saw him eat. The last time I saw him, dude, he was walking with a cane. You know?

I'm sad. He was walking with a fucking chicken leg when I saw him. Yeah, fucking. Feeling good. And then they crushed, dude. It's that they, they, like he died a few months later after I saw him. Yeah. He smoked that set.

It was unbelievable. So, like, I'm so glad I got to see not only just to him play in general, a great one. Right before. You saw him in the summer before he died. I saw him the September before he died because he was at Riot Fest. Right. And then I think he died near his birthday in December. Like November.

December, December. Yeah. Dude, it was unreal how good, how good he was and how Mickey D. Oh, man. He's got the coolest style. And I say it, the guy who drums for Rancid currently has a similar style. Got some Mickey D vibes. He's got some Mickey D vibes for sure.

His whole body. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that dude rips. Well, that's a soda that doesn't have a diet that you miss. The answer is cactus cooler. Yeah, see, we didn't really get that here. No, it's only West Coast. And like some people's trying in and say like Arizona and some shit, but it, God damn, it's unreal.

And I'll never drink it again. A soda that doesn't have a diet. Yeah, I mean, there's diet everything, really. I don't long for anything. You know what I made? Did you ever have squeeze it's and Mondos? Remember those things? Well, those, like the little plastic guys.

Yeah, the juice guys. Fuck your mouth up, but goddamn does it taste good? Yeah. Sugar-free of that would be beautiful. Be nice. Dude, sugar-free Capri's son. How many jumping jacks do you think you can do in public before somebody comes over and asks you to stop?

Where you live, endless. It would be infinite. Infinite. I would have a flash mob of fellow jumping jackers within five minutes. You'd be Forrest Gump. I was jumping. It would be unbelievable. That's pretty good.

I mean, worldwide news phenomenon. Here, the Chicago police, I just watched CPD pull two guys. guys out of a car on my way to the gym and it was just like a bummer. I feel like they'd be called instantly. Instantly. So not long. I would be all day. Any potential of a disharmony Rust 10-year tour slash so? Wow.

Tor? Imagine? God. Show? Maybe. Any upcoming music that you're looking forward to. New Ingram. grown can't wait for. That'll be sick. I like that the single. The new new world man LP whenever that happens. The two songs

sampler that just came out is unreal. Unreal. Still the greatest band ever. I don't know what's going on to the drums on that fucking thing. It's incredible. It's chaos. This first song is five songs. Yes, right. It's incredible. When the when the first part came back, I was like, holy shit, this is the same song. Dude, I did the same exact thing. I was like, wait. It didn't start over. It's amazing.

Yeah, good answer. I love it. Top five female singers, all genres. Okay. All genres. Dude, love that. Easy. We're not lumping any...

We're not saying female fronted, blah, blah, blah. We're just talking about female singers all the time, the best ones. That's why I winced at first, and then I went, oh, okay. Whitney? Dude, all day. It ain't even close. It's not... Well, it's a little close.

Whitney and then 10 spaces and then whoever's next. Mariah Carey. But, I mean, for you. Yeah, she's not in my top five. She's really, give me your top five. I'm curious to know this. Like, I'm not saying vocal ability.

I'm saying my favorite women who sing. Oh, okay. You know? Okay, okay. My favorite women who sing. Okay. Are Whitney for sure. I'm with you.

Easy. Mm-hmm. Dolores. cranberries. Nice. Gaga, who I love so much. Very good. Let's see.

Honestly, Lana Del Rey, lover to death. Great answer. And Selena. Wow. Anything for Selena. Anything for Salinas.

Whitney. Madonna. Big. Big. There's no Gaga without Madonna. Sorry. That's fine. It's just true.

You know? I'm not saying that it makes Gaga less. I'm just saying she was... Yeah, I'm going to say there's no youth of today without minor threat. 100%. And they both rock. Yeah. You know, I have zero.

Mariah, I love Mariah Carey. I crossed out Gaga to put Lana up because I prefer Lata. I really love both. And then, dude, lately, Chaparone has been kicking my ass. Top five? Been loving it. I'm going with it. I'm just riding with it.

That's interesting. I think I've come to a consensus on. Chapel Ron. Hit me. Hey, everybody. Future Colin here to eat my past words. This episode was recorded pre-Grammys, so I didn't know that Chapel Rome was the coolest person alive. I was just about to go on a little rant here about how, while I think her meteoric skyrocket to success is great, I know she grinded for that. She worked hard. I found it disingenuous the way every celebrity under the sun chimed in to defend what is ultimately very

marketable pop music. And then she used the biggest moment of her career to shine a very important light on the music industry not supporting independent artists, smaller artists to really any degree, health care benefits, etc.

While in an age where managers and agents are living in palatial estates and musicians are living in studio apartments, I think that was the coolest possible thing she could have done with the biggest moment of her entire life thus far. So now I completely agree with Bo. She's the coolest.

I crossed out Mariah and wrote Bjork because I almost forgot. Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, that would have been crazy. But Bjork is kind of, she's ethereal. She's neither man nor woman. She's above all. She's above all. She's above.

She's above. That's true. Literally, she's zero. Yeah. Chaplin, I do like you. You'll never see this. Nobody will ever see this. But Chaplow, I think you rock.

Yeah. If you ever want to make punk music, bang my line. Please. Let's see. Advice for motherfuckers trying their hand at lyrics. Been having trouble finding a balance, writing from the heart,

and getting too personal with it. That's... Yeah, that's the whole... Or else it's not real. And when it's not real, the first thing people can tell is, well, this guy doesn't mean this. One thing I think is really important

is syllables and cadence. Oh, yeah. If you got shit that just doesn't fit, there's words to dumb it down to make it fit. Go with that. Thesaurus.com. Straight up. And rhymezone.com are your best friends. And great advice.

To me, I like to start with a song title. Interesting. Start with some funky, creative thing. Like, you got a little idea like this would be a cool title. Kind of put you in. And then work around it, use it. Finding a title later can fucking suck. It's like getting a canvas in a different size or dimension or something.

Start with you have the canvas. You know what you're doing already. I got you. I like that. It's good. This is a good question from John Boyga. What are your favorite cups of coffee for the following situations? Home from Tor Cup.

Home from Tour Cup. I'm going to electric mud on Northwestern Avenue. Great. I would go to house roots and get the sweet latte. Yeah. Just like what I miss, you know. I get the brown acid cold brew. That's my go-to.

Feel good, Cup. do that it's going to be like a pumpkin spice that would be the pumpkin caramel caramel latte from tortony in sherman oaks california very oh okay then i'll do the i've taken you there you have yes tortoni i would do the vanilla uh just a vanilla latte from wormhole in in worker park i've been to wormhole yeah good cup out and about i need a cup Duncan, baby, all fucking day. I don't utilize Duncan left at home because there's no draft here. Out and about, I need a cup is the vanilla odie from Civil.

Oh, civil rocks, dude. Civil rocks. I'm not leaving the house and I need a cup. DoorDash. I still have the Nispresso, the one that you advised me to get. So I've had a huge development recently. Yes, you have. I got an espresso machine.

I haven't bought a coffee in weeks. Really? I'm in the lab every day over here, dude. No kidding. I'm a certified barista to ask me anything. But lately, dude, my thing I've been doing, yeah. Sugar-free tonic.

Yeah, yeah. So I'm doing a can of this tiny sugar-free tonic, zero-sugar pineapple juice, a quarter of a lime, shot of espresso. That sounds fantastic. It's un-fucking believable. Where do you get sugar-free pineapple juice?

Any store. This is a thing? Any store. Really? It's unreal, dude. Yeah, that sounds really good. I got plain espresso for the espresso to do that. Like, to make that, it's obviously not as good as pulling.

You find the sugar-free tonic. Wow. You find some just fun, sweet stuff to throw in there with it. Espresso, making an espresso, I've been talking about this with Mac every single day this week. Yeah. Making an espresso tonic at home feels like, it's like the most impossible thing. I can't possibly make this at home. I got to pay a guy $12 for this.

And now it's free. Wow. It's unbelievable. Congratulations. That's huge. Thanks, ma'am. Civil is my favorite cup that I've had over there still.

Interesting. Besides, what's the shit in Vegas that you gate kept a little? We don't need to get it. Stephen. No, I'm just kidding. You can leave that. Worst hit you've taken in the pit. This is a great question.

Ringworm, burning fight. 2009, I got elbowed in the eye something fierce during House of Hell. I remember it. I remember it. And I my whole eye. I watched Underdog like this the next day. One eye. No depth.

And then dude, late last year, fucking Life of Agony, Cobra Lounge, got broken ribs. Broken rib is crazy. Caught a spin kick of a young guy. Yeah, young guy from Indiana, I think. one of my friends do who it was.

I didn't meet him or anything. But I literally like, like walked out of the venue. Walked home. Got x-rayed. Broken rib is such a hilarious injury. Oh, my rib. Dude,

I went up to James and I was like... A guy kicked me in the rib and it broke. Like, you're a fucking three stoog. You're the fourth stooge. I also wasn't like participating. I was just standing too close and I caught one. That's awesome. That's a good mosher.

Oh, yeah, straight up. Mine was a terror at the cobalt. I think I was 14 or 15. And this guy got me so good. And I was like days for a second. And he was still pretty close to me. No, no. So I like put a handout to like be like,

oh, man, you got me. And he swung back and got me again. Oh. Like legit, bang, bang concussion. Oh, man. It was, it was brutal. I lost some, uh, some cells that. that they have not come back.

How was the headache? Like the next day that night. Brutal. Yeah. Just couldn't see for like hours. Just like fog. Holy shit.

Wild shit. That's horrifying. Yeah, it sucked, man. Funny little thing we do. Somebody asked, talk about the remastered eyes of the Lord track for Brody and the Hound's of Hill and how it came to be. Also, Julia's lyrics in her song.

Okay. So, known about this for a few weeks now. Started, it was kind of, like, weren't sure we were going to do it first. It might have just been a dead body remix again. But, you know, then Brody decided like, all right, we got to have a new identity. Let's do a new thing. And it's always, we have this endless catalog of things we can use.

Right. Of course. Before writing something original. And I'd always visualize this song as a wrestling thing. Oh, really? Interesting. Just the cadence of it? Yeah, the cadence works really well for slow big men walking.

For sure. Exactly. So that was my first thought. And then when he was like, okay, I like the idea, how do you want to do it? Then it was like an entire week of like restructuring it. Yeah. And which that was Taylor and I leaving. So there's some cool little things I did.

the dead body intro in the beginning I took a measure out okay it was four now it is three wow deep and then the same thing happened for the eyes of the Lord intro

it's three but it still feels whole wow and then when it finally comes in it's stronger than ever wow that's beautiful straightforward that's his that's his music

nerd as it gets. Exactly. It's the I, the symbolism is in there. And Julia, I've been planning to re-record that song at some point. Didn't re-record it. But in planning for a re-recording, couldn't say

the house always wins. That makes no sense. So the heart always wins was my idea from the rip. So Emma within like 12 hours had that fixed. Really? I had it fixed same day. Dude, I listened to it. The day before Dynamite. Holy shit.

I listened to it. Like, I listened to, like, to see if it was like, nah, la, heart. You know, I wanted to see if it was, like, punched in. No, her and Jeremy perfectly tracked it. I sent mine into Brian the next day. Wow. With Eyes of the Lord track, that was another huge thing is the dog bark. Because there's, oh.

Yeah. Oh, on a lot of the downbeats. And, like, that can be horrible. Mm-hmm. done wrong. And it was for a while because I had like me barking in there, Nate barking in there.

Chili. Bruce barking in there and a couple dogs. The couple dogs I found online, Brian, who Mix and Master the song, put his dogs in there. He's got four dogs. Dude, I was going to say, I'm surprised you didn't put chili in there.

Chili would sound awful. Tony down. Tony down. Yeah, pitch it. It would be horrible. But Brian's four dogs are in there. Brody's still in there. I'm in there

and created this kind of like reverb delay trail so that it's like every time rather than just like because a recording of eight dogs barking at the same time is still just ah! Right, you know? No matter how deep they are. It sounds ridiculous. And it turned out perfect. Brian did such a great job.

He mixed Julius song as well so it's great to work with him again. Always a pleasure. Yeah, I came out of retirement for one and now I'm back in. So the answer is no. What's it like balancing all the musical projects you're on top in on top of the podcast, especially since Downpresser got to add to the list? It's horrible.

No, it's shut up. You obviously love it. I like. You keep doing it. I like doing it. Yeah. But like practicing now? Practicing was a lot.

Four bands? I got three practices this week. Horrible. Imagine doing that three times. I got no practices this week. We leave for Australia in two weeks. That's fucked. Yeah, I got three this week.

Horrible. But I do like practicing with downpressers because it's new. The journey, this is, she said, what is the journey emotionally been like now drumming for them and feeling the position of a dear friend? Beautiful. That's why I want to do it, ultimately. It's a band I've loved since 2007, for one.

And I was there when Kale recorded. I don't need a reason. I played on a comp song from the same session because he went to Carl's Jr. So I'm one of three people that ever play on a downpresser recording already. Gotcha. So pretty cool. Full circle. And Kail and I's styles are so similar because he's been playing drums that I've been writing.

He was playing drums that I was writing for 10 years. You know? So we already had so much in common rhythmically. And like, I could tell what his brain would do a lot of the time. And that would help me write things. So I've already been, like, playing drums with kale in mind for so long that now playing his drumming, save for a few things where I go, why the fuck would he do that? Feels so natural.

Yeah. I like that. What effect do you think Trump and the far right having power in America again will have on hardcore slash art in general? I think people were really hopeful last time that really good art would come out of it. And now, I don't know, man. It's tough. I don't think, I just like, I don't care about that aspect. Yeah. Just make your, make your shit, you know.

Yeah. I mean, I would love for it for something great to come out of it. But we got bigger fish to fry. We got ice going to school. Yeah, I hope for mass conservative than great art. Rather than a cool demo. Like I hope for spontaneous

of billions of conservatives people. My God, I think the word conservative, the literal definition means like huge pussy, you know? What are you conservative? What are they conserving?

What are they conserving? Okay. Morals? It's a... Conserving it means that. But then by that... The word alone means you're a giant fucking pussy and you're scared of everything. You're loser. It means loser, really, right?

Yeah. By that rationale, someone's going to say, well, liberal, blah, blah, blah, but guess what? We ain't liberals either, bitch. I mean, yeah, but even what is the word liberal means? Yeah, loose, lucy goose. Yeah. Going with the flow is what it means, really. In the dictionary, it says that, I think.

Got bastardized, like anything, I suppose. Yeah, all words do, but conservative, it's as lame as the people who use it. I see what you're saying. Like, by definition. By definition, the word means you're a pathetic. I'm a pathetic guy. I like to, I'm afraid of stuff.

I don't go to cities. I'm a scared of those. Yeah, that sucks, man. Yeah, it sucks. How do you guys cope when it gets bad? You got to focus on the shit that you can change. That's it. Having gone through shit where it seems like everything is ending, you can literally only, okay,

well, how can I make this better right now? What can I do? Okay, got to start there. And how can I do it tomorrow? What can I do next week? You just got to go one step at a time. And I think you took a bit of a break off Twitter for a minute. I think that's a good example.

Log off, dude. Just get out of there, dude. Logging off is unbelievable. You're seeing bullshit, dude. You're not seeing reality. You're not seeing reality. I cannot wait to log all the way off one day. I'm going to go in the woods.

And I'm going to make my own woods. You've never seen woods like the one. But how do I cope when it gets bad? It's a good question. Lately? Yeah. The Witcher three. Dude.

So how far are you at? I'm done. You beat it. Yeah, I'm in the DLC. I'm in the Hearts of Stone. Dude, great. Great, great DLC. What's the other one?

The Wine? Never played it. Blood and Wine and Hearts of the Sun. I've never played. I didn't play either of the expansions. They're good. That's awesome. I'm very excited.

I'm loving them. But how do I cope when it gets bad? Usually I eat something insane and I buy something I can't afford. There you go. You and I, both, I bought a real nice pair of boots recently, and I shouldn't have. Did. But, you know, a little bit of retail therapy.

Boy, do they look nice. The ladies got it right. Trivia time, there are only three words in the English language that begin with the letters DW. What are they? Dwindle. Dweb. Dweb. Dwindle.

Dwire. Dwee. Dwench. Dwent. Dwent. Dwent. No, that would be drenched. Dweb.

Drenched. Drenched. Dwyndt. Duw-i. Dwindle. I'm thinking a why, maybe, Dwe. We said dwindle. Dweeb, which I wonder if that's one of them actually.

And dwarf. Fuck you. Outstanding. Great work. Can we get an episode this year where you do rig rundowns? I would love to. Let's do it. But the problem is,

viewer who's interested in that is most aren't. It's like kind of like when we do like wrestling shit. It's not. I think we just, I think, you know, we make the rules at this. I'm with you.

Believe me, I'm with you. We're the masters of our own domain. I think we just met, we can even film separately if you want. So you don't have to leave and I don't have to leave. Yeah, right.

Yeah. Totally. That sounds great. That sounds cool. Okay. What, uh, if your band,

other bands did cover sets, Twitchfit styles, what band would you want to do? I would love for Harmsway to do I think Harmsway could pull off street cleaner. Like I think we could play all of the street cleaner. That would be fucking awesome. And I think it would be really cool

because I know Casey could program it. I know we could collectively sing like the non-healing part. Like I know we could do it. So that personally, that would, I just think that would be sick. That would be very cool. God's hate. I mean,

have a whole fucking record. Yeah, we already do. I mean, we've already done under the knife and it's awesome. We might as well just do Master's Killer, too. Even though you don't need to, that's the problem. That's the problem. That's what makes the Twitchfit stuff so good. Yeah.

And I speak objectively here is that we're covering recordings that don't sound great. Sure. So you're doing, hey, there's a actual, like, functional purpose to this as well. It's like archiving and normalizing and being like. Exactly. And that's why we did Under the Knife too. It was like, how about a version of Under the Knife that just sounds awesome. Dude, you know what I was talking to Taylor about today was, I was somewhere recently and Easy Like Sunday Morning was on.

And I couldn't tell if it was Faith No More or The Commodores. I could not tell which one it was because I wasn't close enough. Yeah. And I realized, no, I actually think that's kind of a bad cover. Well, there was a response to people want, I think it was because they did war pigs on the record before it. Yeah. I think they got like heckled to play war pigs. So they did.

I love, believe me, I love that, you know. Yeah. But I'm pretty sure it was a fuck you response. I just came to the realization that a cover that is just a carbon copy, it's kind of not good. Yeah, no, it's a way, it's pretty, it's kind of a waste of time. But a metal band doing something like that. That makes sense. Because, I mean, it was a huge hit for them.

Yeah, I think it's in their top. Probably, yeah. Thoughts on the new behemoth album. I didn't know that was the thing. I had no idea. I will listen, though. I do like behemoth. I always have.

Yeah, I'm a fan. What are the Chipotle orders in 2025? I'll tell you what. I've been a hater for the past couple years. Yeah. The Cécedo. got me. No shit. It's outstanding.

All right. It's outstanding. I love to hear it. That's great. I'm, lately, I've been a bowl, extra white rice, light pinto beans, steak. Can you double up that steak for me, buddy? No. Mild salsa, corn salsa,

cheese, done. No guac. No guac. I don't, I don't like the, the temperature difference. I'm weird about that. The guac is cold. I have a solution for that. Tell me. That I had done when I was OG Chipotle head. Walk on the side, knife it on everybody.

Yeah. Okay. I could see that working. It's, I felt the same where I was like the guac sucks. It cools down everything. It makes everything cold. I don't want to bite a cold. It doesn't when you knife it on.

Okay. I'll try that. I like that. I need to start eating more avocado. It's the best. Yeah. It's the best fat you can eat, like peanut butter and avocado. It's literally why I need to eat more.

You're golden. Yeah. Yeah. Go to wing stop order. Let me tell you what. Hit me. I recently added something to my traditional 10-wing combo, original hot,

all-flat, extra ranch. The hot honey tenders. Well done. Dude, I've had those. Not well done, but I've had those. Those, I, a lot of time food trends that kind of piss me off.

Hot honey, I'm all in. Oh, do it all across the board. It's unreal. it changes the game. I can't fucking believe the hot honey tender. They're really good. I'll watch people eat them on TikTok for hours. Just being like,

this could be me. I could do this right now. Four albums to bridge the gap from new metal slash butt rock to hardcore. Okay. That's an interesting question. Slip not self-titled did that for a lot of people, I think. And I would say roots?

Yeah, I mean, that's easy. Yep. Nickelback's on Roadrunner, so one of those. You're not wrong. And New Metal Butt Rock. You know with the Alien Ant Farm, where they had the chain of strength guy on base for a bit? Yeah. There you go.

Okay. Any live studio recordings to be released? Not for me, but a band that we know very soon. Favorite other band of one of your bandmates? I mean, yours is Hate Force, obviously. I would say, I mean, if you're going back, expired youth was a very fun youth group band back today that Chris and James were in.

Man, I'm in most of them. Ones I'm not in, terror. Yeah. Apparition was absolutely fucking unbelievable. Are they over? Yeah, they broke up before the LP came up. Oh, okay. Oh, that's right.

That's right. That's right. Greenwich. obviously, we put out the record. Should be shipping soon. What am I not in? Freedom, obviously. Yeah.

One of the greats. Why, we needed Alec. It was like, man, the guy from freedom is unbelievable. I don't think we told, did we tell the great night for freedom thing on here? No. No, I don't think so. Where whenever we have like a merch night that isn't like unbelievable, or we'll be like, fuck, we did like 300 here.

Alec from the back of the van would just be like, it's a great night for freedom. That's great. Yeah, probably those four. Name an album you'd like remastered and an album you'd like completely recorded, re-recorded. Sand Black Church, Super Christ. I would love to hear completely re-recorded.

And the Taste the Steel demo, I would like to hear completely re-recorded. recorded. Remastered, where like, the master is bad? I have a version of Age of Quarrel that has the worst mastering you've ever heard on it, but that's not. Remastering does a little less than I think people think it does. Sometimes, but sometimes it's magical. I think it's only magical if it's a really bad master and how many popular records are really bad masters. True, true. I would love to hear the Only Living Witness Complex Man, remaster.

There you go. The seven-inch. I don't want that re-recorded because the recording, you can tell is just fucking electric. Let me get, and Justice for All re-recorded remastered. Wow. Top to bottom. Beautiful.

Let me hear it. Is practicing mosh moves anywhere other than a show, cringe? Yes, but it's kind of necessary. We've all done it. We've all done it for one. But many of us were 12 to 14. Yeah, right.

That's the difference. That makes it difficult. As people finding hardcore at 26, practicing in their bedroom, your roommate walks in rather than your aunt or your mom. Right. It's a harder thing to explain. I fully agree. Seen some bad skanking lately.

Which is crazy because everybody loves skanking. I know. It's the coolest thing. And FYA, I was watching just like... They're working on it. They're working on it. Maybe when they're 27, they'll be good at it. And listen, I did in my living room when I was a teenager.

100%. I would say, If you're going to practice moshing anywhere, it should be spin kicking in somewhere like a haunted pool or a haunted ship or haunted. Where else would have been? Big house, I think. Haunted house, et cetera. Furness, a huge furnace. A huge haunted furnace.

You got to do that. Oh, my God. If you were transported back in time to leave the charge on Normandy, what song would be blasting from? Well, what beach? We need to get specific here, dude. Why don't you tell me? What's your favorite beach of home? Omaha and Utah, that's bad.

You need something. You need rain and blood. You need Master Killer. You need, I mean, don't get me wrong. It's all bad. But Sword, Juno, they were a little less. Omaha and Utah, that's rough, dude. How about, well, we're going to,

we're going to end the war, you know? Yeah. We're going to eliminate the slime. Operation Overlord, baby. Yep. That means we are going to enemy enemy territory where the slime lit. Oh, nice. So I would have to go where the slime lit.

We'll slobly off. Where the slime is real. Yeah, that's good. That's a good answer. Just for killing Nazis, man. Somebody asked, when will we get a deeper dive into the history of God's hate? What do you want to know? Yeah, yeah.

What do you mean? We had many different names when it started. Bodycast being one of them. Right. A bunch of a dismantle and being one of them. Dismantle, not a bad name. That's not a bad name. Pretty good, but it just didn't feel like the one, you know?

Had a practice with, it was me on drums, Anthony on guitar. I can't remember who else was in the room. And the only thing we kept out of it was Dan. which is from the song Headstone. I don't know. Yeah, we'll do a history of God's A at some point. Merry fuck kill, long sleeve crewneck hoodie.

Kill crew neck. I don't need it. I'm really into him lately. It's hard. Dude, I'm obsessed with the LA Apparel crew neck. Oh, dude. All the LA Apparel heavy net stuff is perfect. It's perfect.

Did you get your fantasy initiative care package? Yes. Dude. I can't believe it. I know. That shit is crazy. So, but as a whole, I'm still, I'm fucking a long sleeve and I'm marrying a hoodie. My God.

You have long legs. So a crew knuck on you looks okay. Crew neck is good. It boxes up. It bunches up. And so on me with shorter legs, I just look like two cubes. I look like Minecraft. It's not good.

Wow. A cube guy. I look like Tars from Interstellar. I would kill the long sleeve. Wow. Yeah, you're not really a long-sleeve guy. No, I've got great ones. But just like, you're kind of the opposite.

I just don't need them all the time. You don't need sleeves. I would fuck the hoodie lately, and I would marry the crew. Wow. I would marry the L.A. Apparel Heavy crew. Yeah, specifically. Dude, the sweatpants. I'm wearing them right now.

They're so awesome. Fantasy initiative. If you guys... Check it out. Dude, anybody listen out there, if you want to print merch for your band or whatever, if you want to spend a lot of money and not, make a lot of profits. Oh, it's so expensive.

But make really nice stuff. Looking at the LA Apparel, 14-ounce shit. It's crazy. So expensive. Craziest laptop band fail you've ever seen. Heartfest, upstate New York, 2018, 19, I think.

Saw a band start their set. It was hot out. The thing overheated. And they said, well, have a good night. Walked off stage. I don't know what band it was truly, even to shit on them.

I wouldn't. But even if, But even if I wanted to, I don't remember who it was. Just at that point, are you a band? No. You know? So when Little insider baseball, when Harmsway started playing to a click and Chris was using Ineers, and we started doing the sampling through the PA, through front of house.

That's mostly for a fidelity thing. We wanted to sound good. We all agreed that if we ever got to a point where if that broke, if we couldn't play a song, then we need to figure something out. Yeah. So that's- You keep going. That's the integrity level that you have to keep. It's like this is just an instrument like anything else.

You can't be everything. Tune it up mid-song and keep it going. Yeah, figure it out. Yeah, 100%. If your laptop dies and you can't play the show, you're not a band. I would love to see a million vanilla repeat thing, you know? Man, they got some fucking bangers. It's a shame what happened to them because, God, damn.

What a couple of fucking hits they had. Given the Grammy back is kind of dope if you really think about it. Like, that they were like, you're right. Here you go. I just don't think that's that. I mean, the songs are the songs, and they got actors to perform them. It's kind of like the highest performance art possible. You're not wrong.

You know? Now, I mean, currently we have the opposite. And actually throughout history, we've had people to perform them who didn't write them, but they sang on the records. That's the only difference. Yeah, I almost didn't write a goddamn thing. That's what I'm saying. You know? It's like, that's the only difference.

Or like, Beyonce, she's not writing shit. She's performing it. and then she goes out and performs it, but she didn't write the song. A team of people wrote those songs. Katie Perry's fucking teenage dream. I think today, conceptually,

some Swedish guy being like, I need two beautiful black men to sing me these songs. These songs don't fit me. I need two gorgeous, model-esque black, powerful black men. To pretend like they're singing the song.

Yeah, I just think that's awesome. You know? Yeah, they're honks. Get them pay. They're sexy as hell. Get them paid. You know?

Veed out too. Bill. I don't know. And the songs are banners, dude. I think, bring them all back. There was a band on Warp Tour, I won't say who, who was on our staged level. And they had a member who sang a lot but wasn't the main singer. And we figured out was just pantomime.

his instrument. He was just there to sing. He was really singing. That was real. You could tell he wasn't playing shit on his instrument. He was pretty like, oh, really. Oh, you're there to sing. Okay.

Interesting. That was a little something. Mount Rushmore bands with the best merch. Merch. I mean, typo clears most anyone. Typo. Merch is so good that it converts. hurts people into being fans, even though they have no idea what they're about sonically.

Very true. Typo's all time. I would say hardcore-wise, Cold World really ran shit for a long time. That's the original, like, merch band. You think so? I think so. Of our generation, at least. Mental was, I would say, more.

Mental for sure, but Cold World took that and ran with it. You know? What's a band I use for reference a lot? Motorhead has unbelievable merch and they have like four designs. Wow. Yeah, it's all

It's all the thing. Does their thing have a name? Oh. Yeah, I don't know either. The guy. He's the motorhead. Can't say misfits really because it's just like...

Yeah, who even knows. Yeah. Slayer has some cool merch. They do. They did. They did. Yes. As well as Metallica.

Dude, I mean, one of the metallic shirts I have just has their stage plot on the back. She's like, here's the stage layout with feet and like a diagram. And that's just like, and it's called the wherever I may roam tour. It's like, damn, that's sick. I'll take a lot of the Cromag stuff from 86 to 92 over anything. The spiritual shit.

Love it. Yeah. And. It's good youth crew shit. Turning points got a cool. Dude, chain. something about chain's merch just rocks chain chain had it

pretty good look great font yeah they really they got it they got it dude terror terror's got some good stuff too terror's still got it but the Mount Rushmore

merch band TUI was strong best merch AF pretty strong AF's got some good stuff dude shit even I mean I strive to make the best merch

you know sometimes I do I mean, you have, you specifically with God's hate, and for Twitching, really, have taken merch in a direction that I don't think many, you've taken it international in more ways than one. In ways that I don't think. Cut out the middleman, you know? Yeah, it's crazy. Cut them out. Oh, the LA apparel blank is $40?

Okay, well, where'd they get it? You know? I'll get my own. thoughts of dudes shaving in the gym bathroom As long as you clean it up I don't give a shit You can do pretty much anything anywhere If you clean it up or apologize

Or whatever for the inconvenience I'm fine with it I really don't I'm Jim's not having paper towels And bathrooms But everywhere else outside Wow

I've never thought about it But mine does that It's insane It's got the worst hand dryer in the world You want me to get big like the shit part of the farticles are going to be all over me because I can't drive this off and you want me to go touch all your stuff. Yeah. If anything, you should put extra paper towels in the bathroom. Wow.

Anyway. One thing I don't. I've seen people clip their toenails on planes or fingernails on planes. That's psycho. Or fingernails in offices that I've worked in. And that's like you should be taken outside and shot. Yeah, I agree. I'm sorry.

That's absolutely insane. What's the story behind Pat Killing yelling at Colin about wearing shorts on stage? I wouldn't say yelled at me, but the first time he saw us was in New Jersey at a house show and he heard us and saw the shorts

and talked to me after and he was like, you can't do this. Love it. He was like, you're in a heavy rock metal band. You can't wear shorts. Love it. And I never wore him again. I love it.

Bo, what is it like being in one of the best hardcore memes of all time. Great. Colin, what was the vibe like at the Paradise in Boston when you guys played with Vane, Code Orange, and Wikiface whose idea was to have Wikiface and where they fired? That was a Code Orange thing, but no, that was awesome.

I remember that. I think Wikiface draws a lot every time he plays, and he was the OG singer of Tiger's Jaw. So that was P-A-H-C. For PAHC, I thought it was great. You know that's him on the Darby Allen music, too? Yeah. Crazy.

It's a great song. It is, yeah. Colin, will your stuff be working for Tidedown? That's the goal. That's the goal. Thoughts on live stage volume. Listen, I used to be a little prick, and I would do the thing of, like, line check. Yeah, that sounds good.

Working with actual sound guys and talking to people who really care about. making you sound good. Yeah. Not always the best idea. And that's if you're at a level or you're playing a certain situation where that applies. I love a...

I love a... Pump it on stage, dude. Let me hear it. God. Lord knows the monitors are not going to be the same after this check, you know? Yeah, 100%. But if the PA can't keep up

with the kick drum mic or the vocal mic or something, that sucks. Yeah, sure. If I've got Zach Rippy there, yeah, I'm not worried about it. If Rippie's there, I'm not worried. I know it's going to be fine.

I have 100% agree. If I got Joe Schmo, who's doing this check that's an hour long and none of it's going to be there when I play, I'm going to need some stage volume. Will you guys be at RBS Fest 2025? That's LDB weekend, so sadly no. Got a prior commitment. What do you guys think is the best tuning to play hardcore music? I think anything fast, E-flat. I like that.

I can go with that. Anything hard? C sharp. I mean, we're drop E, so we just drop that bottom string from C sharp. Yeah, that's C sharp. Yeah. That's C sharp enhanced, you know? C sharp plus.

I do, I think I agree. Marauder, C sharp. Because of carnivore. Let's go. Yeah, and they were because of Black Sabbath, you know? It's the coolest. Do you think we forgot about the 200 Nuggets Challenge Redemption? I was hoping you did.

I'll be honest with you. I just worked them nuggets off. I don't think. my body could take another 88 nuggets. What was the, how many McDonald's did you think you could do again? 15? That, I mean, realistically. Ah, everybody hear that?

You hear that tone change? McDoubles. Yeah. 10 to 15. I would believe 10 more than 15, obviously. Me too. Perfect. Let's see.

Could you do a little recap of Christmas weekend? and Buffalo beyond what was in the episode with Craig. Yeah. What did you guys get up to the rest of time? We went to Adolfs. We went to Adolfs, right? We went to Adolfs and 9-11? No, we didn't go to 9-11.

We just went to Adolfs. We went to two different ones, though. We went to Bar Bill, which used to be the king. That's it. Yeah, Bar-Bow. And no longer the king. Yeah, Adolfs, which is currently the king. And Adolf should never be the king.

But he is. It's a weird time. It was good. Did you like the show? I had a great time at the show. Converged in particular. Oh, yeah. Just unbelievable.

We got coffee. Went to the place. Yeah, what was that place called? It was fine. It was fine. It was by the hooktall. Coffee's pretty slim pickings in Buffalo, it seems. Yeah, it was cold.

Went to the casino. We got hose. I didn't get that hose. Well, I got my limit hose, which is lesser than yours typically, but. I left down like 100 bucks. It was huge. That's nice. That's nice.

I mean, it was a, that was a quick weekend for us. It was, yeah, in and out. Not a lot to recap. Yeah.

Any advice, tips for people who want to make the big move to L.A. or Chicago. Don't go to L.A. Visit Chicago before you. Visit Chicago in the winter

before you even think about it. It, and I only say that about L.A. because of the living expense. If I could afford it, it would be a different story. The cost of living there compared to everywhere else

is crazy. easy. Sure. Come to the valley. Valley's definitely better, but... We invite you, we cordially invite you all to come to the valley. What's your, your gas per gallon? I don't have gas. You see it around. For something. Yeah. There are people who are going to go,

Skr! and fucking flip their car on the highway. And that's like low. So, yeah. Pretty brutal. Chicago right now is just unending cold. And if you're really thinking about moving here, maybe you're from a cold place, I don't know. But that's, just be careful about that. Because it's, I know somebody who moved here from Arizona and they're already moving back, like within the last six months. That's a crazy move.

Isn't it? They're from here originally. Ah. But they were just like, I forgot. I'm going back. Are you looking forward to Doom the Dark Ages? Can't wait. What's that?

Dude. The new Doom. Oh, yeah, yeah. Doom. Doom. Oh, the Dark Ages. just think, yeah, dude. I just saw that.

Absolutely. Can't wait. Absolutely. It looks fucking, it looks awesome. I can't wait to play it on a 5090 that if I don't get, I will kill myself. Don't need it. So, Invidia, if you're watching. My life is in your hands.

Asis, MSI, all of you. Gigabyte. A gigabyte. It's definitely in your hands. You gave me a fucked-up motherboard, you scumbags. I will be up myself. Anyway. When is the next hauntler?

this year probably Halloween I don't know Yeah How badass is fucking Mongrel Unbelievable New record out February Via days and hard lore Check it out

Can't wait Any chance we get a Fury episode We'd love that Oh yeah that'd be good Any Texas hard lore stuff Planned for not so fun weekend I think I'm only gonna be there for one day So probably not

What's the chance of reprinting Early Merch on the better blanks we have access to now. Or like our bands? Yeah, I'm down. Oh, yeah. Harmsway is kind of slowly going back through the catalog just to do it on better blanks. So yeah.

Cooler guitar tone, Metallica or Slayer. Wow. What record? Tone. Give me records. Tone? It varies a lot with Metallica. Yeah, tone, let's say Master Puppets versus Randallet. Master Puppets. I think I agree. Tone, I agree. Yes.

If we're talking guitar tone. Yeah, I mean, you got the JC 120 ripping. The master guitar tone is like heavy. Yeah. It's a slower record. But it's like the greatest clean tone as well. And one of the greatest clean tones ever. So it's just a little more dynamic.

Slayer is ripping the whole time. There are hot-rotted 800s just going the whole time. Which is perfect. It's great. For them. I wouldn't change it at all. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah. But, you know, it's tough.

I would say Metallica. songs, I would say Slayer. Dude, and like south of heaven, guitar tone is real good. Crazy. Yeah. You all enjoy any other era of Black Sabbath besides the Aussie stuff?

I love Dio Sabbath. Dio Sabbath is, I'm sooner to put that on at lately. Nowadays, 100%. I think that's when they finally got to experiment, be ultra heavy.

Yes. And do whatever they wanted. The humanizer. Dude, Mobb Rules, dehumanizer, heaven and hell. All good. All good. All the way through.

I love it. And then do you know why Dio quit? I don't. Ozzy was doing a headlining tour. Black Sabbath accepted the opening slot. Dio would not do that. What a king, dude. Dio ain't opening for Ozzie.

Not opening for a... Rest in peace, dude. Allegedly. The king... Just straight up. RIP. Man. What's the funniest thing?

you've seen in a show. Hardest laughs at a show are all kind of Uno related. I'll break down three of them right now. Okay. One time this is crazy. Taylor, this is not that crazy, but just the ripple effect was unbelievable. Salt Lake City,

Taylor loses Uno has to floppy arm mosh and spin kick with one leg. And he just he did it, like faithfully? He did it. Next time we go to Salt Lake, people are floppy armoshing and split. No fucking way.

He changed the game, dude. My God. It was incredible. Other two would be both Brody King. One time he lost, loser had to paint themselves blue and mosh for harness at the red room in Washington.

He lost. The place was covered in blue. Oh. Everywhere. Unbelievable. I'd be so pissed. It was in people were covered in blue from him jumping on them and hitting them.

It was insane. Oh, my God. Another one was, Loser has to eat a live snail that we found on the floor. That's really dangerous. It was brutal. Lost by Brody King.

He bites into it. The shell completely crunches. And he projectile moments. It was unbelievable. Oh, Mike. Absolutely unbelievable. Coolest thing I've ever seen. A guy in St. Louis,

I got on stage, Harm's Way was playing. It was just like, like flexing at James specifically. And in the picture, James is kind of like, okay, you know?

And then after like 20 seconds, security just grabs them is at the foobar and it's just taking them outside. And then it's photographed. James and I are just dying laughing. It, like, was he on stage?

He was on the stage. Eye to eye with us. Just. Any blowback after? No, none whatsoever. I think he was fucked up. What if you saw him after and he was like, guys, that was the best set of ever seen? That'd be really sick.

At the same show, a guy broke his leg and instead of going to the hospital, was sat in the back of the room on a pool table doing like this because he didn't want to miss the set. Dude. Same show. Like, I went to a show and I broke my leg. Yeah. is hilarious.

Yeah. Imagine telling you're a co-worker. Yeah. What happened to you? Going to a concert this weekend. Let's try it. Let's try it. Let's do a little role play.

Ready? All right. Colin, what happened? I went to a concert. I broke my leg. What? In what normal circumstance? Would a regular person be like,

that makes sense? Yeah, that can happen. Fuck, dude. Hark war is the best. So stupid. Are there any Christian hardcore metal heavier bands you like? Only figure four and only the regular where they're talking about not believing in God anymore. Yeah, I like figure four.

I like Shockwave. Oh, she's Shockwave. Good call. Good call. I think Life's Question has some Christian stuff in there. And there's something, like we talked about Ridge being Christian in the Pain of Truth episode, you know? Yeah. And there's something about him being Christian that's like scary to me. Okay. Like that's darksided.

Yeah, that's like Roman Catholic. Yeah, like a demented musical mind believing in God is like, damn, that's scary. Yeah. Kind of Peter. It's dark-sided. Yeah. Wow. So I don't know.

I think anything Ridge is involved with being vaguely religious? Dude. Makes it scary. Now that you mention it, like Tomariah, Black Sabbath. Catholic. All Catholic. Yeah. Interesting.

Interesting. There's something dark-sighted about Catholicism. the mob, you know. All Italians. Irish. Every single one. All the Irish. Exactly.

What's the story of the hard lore theme coming together? There ain't no story. It took about 15 minutes. Colin did it and said, could you yell over this? And then I played a guitar lead. Done. Just in my apartment, like, Zah!

That was it. It's about 10. Perfect. It was 30 minutes of work. again, mixing master by Brian Patiste, who did the Lodrymaster and Julie's song. Favorite X-Files episode, my favorite episode is the one with Jack Black and Giovanni Rubisi, where Giorvani-Rubisi, like, is at the arcade and, like, controls electromagnetic frequencies? Wow.

You know what I'm talking about? No, I never really watched that show. Too much filler stuff. Dude, in the filler episodes, they're hunting cryptids. I know. I'm not going to watch the thing about the Jersey Devil. It's awesome I watched that one

I wasn't You would like it I found where you could watch a Like the overall story arc thing No you don't partake You need filler to make the big moments hit I got you Because when it's creature of the week type thing

And a story does continue next week You're like holy shit this is crazy This one's still going Okay So like it is a storytelling device To use self-contained filler story Do you remember the Cops X-Files crossover episode? Oh, yes.

It's insane. That was cool. I remember liking that. They do good shit, man. Mount Rushmore chips. Are you a chip guy? Oh. I feel like I don't really see you eat chips.

Because I can't stop. Yeah, you don't stop. Yeah. It's a real thing for me. To me, the nacho cheese Dorito is like one of the greatest things. That's all this. That's all of us. Yeah, straight up.

Didn't invent anything, but just the king. The sour cream and onion lays. The sea salt and black pepper kettle chips. Oh, yeah. And whatever jalapeno chip, like Miss Vicki's jalapeno? Is that one? Yeah, I think so. Vicki's the strike one.

Get the fuck out of here. Unreal. Baked lays, just the original baked lays. I'm a big fan. I love a sun chip, blue bag. I'm the blue bag guy. I also like the garden one, but the blue bag one.

I love the red bag. Yeah, the red bag. The salsa garden, whatever that one is. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, that's green. My bed.

Bakelays, sun chips. A fucking, the voodoo heat. Oh, the voodoo kicks ass. Dude. I love those.

And then, yeah, I'm with you with the, with the Dorito. I think just, it's just king. Oh, no.

Cape Claw. salt and vinegar. Oh yeah. That'll fuck you up for life. I love God. You'll enjoy the ride. Tips for new bands. Don't worry about what the cool guy and the cool band thinks of your band.

Definitely. Get over at home. The people that pay to go to shows and the people that spend their life supporting this beautiful live thing that we do. That's who you should give a shout about liking your band. So you don't need to message it to the singer of your favorite band. Yeah, don't get over, dude. Don't punish people to listen to your band. The only thing you should ever really be doing is trying to get in front of people. Yeah. If people see or hear that you had a good show, they're going to look you up. That's how it's going to work. I'm never, I'm very rarely

listening to a new band of being like, where are they playing? Yeah. I got to go and see this. There's just so much that you can't do that. Yeah. I would say just show up as well. Just show up.

If you're the, like, contract killer, new band from the valley. The fellow Donovan volunteers at midnight hour. Sick. Hard Lord got him into hardcore. I've seen him around a billion times,

so obviously I'm going to listen to his band. There you go. That's a guy I see around. the young guy I see around who I get to know, obviously I'm going to check out his band. And you all should too. It's a perfect example. It's really good. You just got to show up a lot of the time.

Fuck Mary Kill. Vandalism, stealing, gaslighting. Oh, wow. I think I'm killing vandalism. Really? I don't do it personally.

But that includes graffiti. And graffiti is kind of dope. Graffiti is awesome, but I'm just saying me doing it. them. Okay. Okay. The act, like me doing it, you know? Did you ever vandalize when you were young? Not really. I, I, I, I, graffitied in a textbook. Yeah.

In high school, and I got caught doing it, and it wasn't my book, and I'll never forget. A girl, let me borrow it. Oh, no. And for some reason, I thought it would be cool to write in it. And I'll never forget the look on her face when I got caught doing it. Or she was just like, you do it? And it's just like, well, I'm never doing that again. Yeah. So I never did it again.

Gaslighting. No, I think I'm killing gaslighting. No, you're not going to kill gaslighting. I'm killing gaslighting. Yeah. I think I'm actually marrying vandalism. That was quick. Yeah, I don't like to steal either.

So I'm going to fuck steal because every now and then, you know, you got to do it. I think you and I completely agree. Gaslighting sucks. We all know that. Do you know who my little graffiti buddy was with? Who? One Chris Mills. Really?

He and I, when we were young, young, just able to drive. Dude, here's a great story. Statute is definitely up on this. High school was ending and everyone was like, what are we going to do? Oh, we're all going to go to this community college. We should all live together, like, all of the, all the people who played music, all the hardcore kids in my little suburb. We went to this just local apartment complex and we asked the guy who's walking out. Obviously, now I know this is rude.

At the time, I wasn't being a dick, but we said, hey, how much? is it to live here? And he was like, what? He was a big, burly guy. And we're like, the rent. Like, how much is the run here? We're in my friend's brand new Prius at the time. They'd just come out.

And this guy was just like, go fuck yourself. Have a nice night, asshole. And just like, he thought we were like being insulting, being like, how much is it to live here? We're in a pre, you know, it came off wrong. And you, you're, you're seriously inquiring. We was legitimately just like, yo, like, yeah, we wanted to live together. And this is right by where all of us lived.

We saw what truck. We saw what truck he was going to. Some people may have snuck back later and spray painted all over his truck. Oh my God. And then, and maybe they wrote, have a nice night asshole as something I heard. And then maybe a couple months later, after everything was fixed, they went back and did it again. I don't know. Maybe that's something I heard that I know some people do.

So you're marrying vandalism. I would marry vandalism. I also think graffiti when like tastefully done is like kind of the coolest thing. Oh, it's the coolest thing ever. I could never do it. It's a lot like skateboarding. And I also got caught stealing saw one, saw two, and the family guy Blue Harvest movie once from a mire. Unbelievable hall.

Thank you. Thank you. I thought you'd like that. Holy shit. I had to pay a fine. I was underage. so I had to like pay a fine and it wasn't like on my record or anything. So I also had a short, but you're right.

Sometimes self-checkout, it's just like, I'm not, fuck, fuck you. I'm not scanning that. I'm not scanning that. My wife would kill me if you heard this. Thankfully she doesn't watch or listen to the show. What's the best album to listen to in a dark room with no phone or any other distractions? Do you ever do that? It's been a while.

Yeah. if I'm doing that, it's for a reason. Right. And that reason usually needs warning, watching from a distance. I don't know if I really have an answer. That's like a place I don't allow myself to get to because it's scary. That's fair. Yeah.

Songs where another band's cover of it is better. That is an episode coming soon. Thoughts on holding on to a music project for too long. 100 versions of the song, years of tweaking and never doing anything with it because it's not perfect. I'm going through a serious battle right now with that of like having to figure out how to make this thing perfect. And forgetting that like the best songs have ever written were just like, okay, I guess this is it. Yeah, here we go. Right.

And whatever the expression is, whoever said it is that art is never finished. it just escapes is like so dead on that if you're obsessed, it's never going to, it's never going to happen. Yeah. And that's advice I need to take myself lately. So I'll work on that. I like that. That's good.

Band's lyrics ever been vetoed. Yes. Fridid from a love there's no law was just originally about our dad. It was just like a song about how much I love my dad. And I don't think it worked very well. So it turned into Frigid, which Frid conceptually was all of monotheist turned into one song. Sick. Pretty funny.

Yeah, there had just been stuff where lyrics were proposed and we just came up with ways for it to use better. It wasn't like a veto like, no way, dude. It was just like maybe this would fit better, you know, constructive type stuff. You guys did New York R Corps as a series. when are we getting Boston, Chicago, and L.A. I think we'd love that. I would do Boston in a fucking heartbeat. And L.A.

Chicago, I think, would be kind of tough. A lot of prior to, like, that follow-up boy group, I don't know anybody. Well, maybe they do. Yeah, maybe. But, like, effigies and, like, the old bands,

Ragon and, like, all that shit, screeching weasel, no idea. Well, let's see what we can do. Yeah. Be cool. Oh, this is a great question. What did you guys get each other for Christmas? Wow.

Dude. Bo, let me start here. Okay. So I have this series of posters from 1980 for the French release of the original Muppets movie. It was a series of six. I had five of them. Old Bo here did some serious mental fortitude, because I probably told him in like July.

Like, here's the series. I'm missing one. It's kind of the best one, but it's the hardest to find. It's the one where animal is jaws and this piggy is swimming a boat. Incredible poster. Incredible poster.

I have the rest of them. They're all framed beautifully in my living room. Bo found that one and got it for me. Unbelievable gift. In Paris, no less. I also, I don't know if she told you, but I told your wife, I asked your wife,

hey, don't let him buy this. She didn't. Yeah, like if he really didn't. If he starts to indicate he's going to pull the trigger, just be like, no, you know, like, do something because I'm going to get this. Yeah, I appreciate that. That was an incredible gift. Good. I'm glad she liked it.

Colin and I share a great bond of sweets. Colin started his journey recently with the Ninja Creamy Ice Cream Maker. How are you doing on that? You still using it? I'm on my third unit because two of them have died. Really? They have, if you look on on Google. I guess Ninja has like a 50-50 with them

where a thing happens where you plug it in, you run it and then you're done and blah blah blah and the next time you go to turn on it won't turn on you have to unplug it, it has to wait. Oh, that happens with mine. Oh, you can get a new one. I have to use a different outlet every time. Yeah, yeah.

So that's not supposed to happen. You can get a brand new one. And I have my third on the way. And the crazy thing is the other ones, they say, don't worry about that. Do you have three? Only the bottom, not the other shit. but I'm sure you could buy the other shit.

Yeah. So it was really easy. I called them and it was done in 10 minutes. Okay, yeah, I got to do that then because mine's defective. But functionally. Functionally. Like a life-changing device. I have 40 to 60 grams of protein in ice cream.

And then I can eat at midnight. I can eat a pint of ice cream at midnight and I'm just growing. I'm just gaining. It's just good for me. It's incredible. Like if I don't eat this pint of ice cream, I'm an idiot. Yeah. The protein ones.

I've been alternating between the protein ones and then the Dull Whip recipe I found. I love Dull Whip and it's been fantastic. It's been fantastic. I love it. I love it. Merry Christmas. Happy Valentine's Day. What's something you guys are proud of

but don't usually get the chance to talk about? I think Hardlore being what it is is like a legit miracle. Absolutely. Absolutely like shot the dark. One in a million chance that it worked out to this well.

You know, I think Anybody could have done this, but we did it at the right time. And it was the right two guys. And you got to figure, too, it's a lifetime for each of us of networking with people. Yeah. That's a life's work.

And it's, we're fans first. Yeah, of course. At the end of the day, we love music so much. Yeah. that we did not set out to be authorities in any way whatsoever on like what is good and what sucks. No. Even though I know objectively what is good and what sucks. But I don't want to dissuade anyone.

Pretty much. No, no, no. We're just here to signal boost the things that we love. And we're glad that many of you are receptive to them. It is a true absolute miracle that this show is still going and people are supporting it. and we appreciate it all. We'll keep finding new ways to take it to the next level while also maintaining what it is at the core.

No pun intended. And that's our episode this week. Great. Love it. Really good question this time, guys. Really great questions. Yeah, you guys did good. Also, things we're proud of don't usually get the chance to talk about.

I've been doing this a long time. Yeah. You know? this music thing. I think there's only two or three years since 2008 where I have not started a new band. And that's insane. And I don't plan on stopping.

So if you're sick of me now, you're going to, it's going to be fatal soon. Okay? It's terminal. Trust me. You're going to die with me, motherfucker. We'll see you all next week. Bye.

Bye.