HardLore - SPEED: From Sydney to Coachella

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

HardLore is joined by Jem, Dennis and Josh from SPEED for a full day in Los Angeles, where we hear the story of the band while visiting multiple small businesses owned by people associated with the hardcore community. Modu Coffee, Mills Vintage/Varsity, Little Fish and Going Underground Records are the backdrop to this incredible day where we document SPEED's journey from the beginning, detailing all of the steps of their evolution from local band in Sydney to ultimately representing their group of friends and their home on a global scale. THE HARDLORE SPEED MOVIE HAS ARRIVED. Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes: https://patreon.com/hardlorepod Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef Cool links: HardLore Official Website/HardLore Records store: https://hardlorepod.com Get 15% off MADD VINTAGE with code HARDLORE15! https://maddvintage.com/ Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW SPEED: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/gangcalledspeed/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/gangcalledspeed FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe 00:00:00 - Start 0:01:08 - Hello Welcome / Modu Coffee 00:03:09 - Coachella / Sound & Fury 00:10:45 - Jem missed the second flute... 00:12:20 - "A product of a larger friend group" 00:18:09 - Speed Starting in 2019 / Influences 00:19:09 - Demo 00:21:36 - State of Australian HC in 2019 00:29:39 - Mills Vintage / Varsity 00:32:50 - Visual Aspects of Speed 00:40:17 - The Flute 00:43:03 - Putting together a tour spread 00:44:09 - Kardashians 00:48:16 - Favorite Hardcore Shirt 00:51:25 - Fast Food in Australia 00:54:18 - Little Fish 00:55:59 - Dennis the Fish Monger 01:00:21 - Staying Fit and Eating Healthy 01:02:28 - Lunk Alarm allegation... 01:04:40 - Go-To American Spots 01:06:42 - Top 5 Australian Snacks 01:11:37 - Australian Touring Bands 01:14:30 - First Speed Tour 01:17:15 - Last Ride/Flatspot Records 01:24:53 - Pardon This Interruption 01:26:59 - YouTube Home Page 01:29:40 - Video Games 01:31:30 - Going Underground Records 01:33:48 - Only One Mode 01:41:17 - Favorite Speed Tour 01:44:42 - Best Episode Ever Done 01:47:10 - We're all the same 01:48:22 - Top 4 Hardcore Records   HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER   For sponsorship opportunities, email us! [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Being able to take a win and be on a journey with your friends and have accomplishments that you share together is worth more than any kind of Big-ass paycheck or Not like clout nod from some label or being on a certain roster or anything else like being Even if it means that we don't get to like Be on nightliners for the rest of our life and be this crazy big sensation like it's never even been the goal But if we even got like two steps that way but it was all without compromising any of our values and bringing our

friends with us and being able to share it together like that is the most fulfilling experience so I'm saying like being able to share with your family that you've known so so I says to Mabel I'm back you're back in LA that's awesome hey oh hey hello welcome oh it's our Lord time how you doing Bo I'm doing so well in sunny California it's not very sunny today kind of reminds me of Australia. We wanted to do something fun today. We wanted to go around to a couple

small businesses in L.A. that are associated with hardcore punk in some way. And you know, just have a nice day all around the city, checking out some cool local businesses. We're going to start here at Modu Coffee. If only

there was some kind of like unbelievable breakout international band here for us to bring with us. That would be the icing on the cake. Yeah, who would that? What the hell? Oh, my God.

What the fuck? It's speed. It's good to see you guys. Speed is here and they're miced up. Miked up and ready to go. Look at this. This is incredible. What are you guys getting to?

The odds are high. We have Jim, Dennis, and Josh from Speed. And we're going to take them all around L.A. today. Get to know them a little more. Eat some, some yummy stuff. Drink some yummy stuff. Shop some yummy stuff. Yeah, just have a nice day.

You guys want some coffee? I would love some coffee. I know you love Monster. Do you like coffee? I'll have a coffee today. Okay. There we go. You can take it one day off once in.

Let's go in, Stephen. This is Jude. She's a legend. She's a dig. Her owner, proprietor. Chef, owner, Roastmaster?

Who's the roast master? He's the rest. She doesn't. She's not the roastmaster, but she does the rest. What's your favorite thing? Depends. I like all the tonics.

Notatonic. I'll take an espresso tonic. Are you familiar with espresso tonic? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We get them every now and then. Down under they got that? I love especially tonic. They don't play when it comes in a cup.

Really? Yeah. They got. They got in common. Better than Europe. Well, that's a good bit of it. So, boys, you're in town for Coach Hill right now. Yeah.

That's crazy to say. And we were talking outside earlier off-camera about how that was just not even a goal of yours. How was that experience? How does that compare to something like Sound and Fury that you've played a few times now? It was hard work. Yeah. It was harder work than I thought it was going to be. How so?

Well, you have a fucking tent full of normies. Yeah. Down and engaged, but they don't know how to engage. Yeah, right. And you want to come and... We're trying to do the thing the same way. Of course. You want to have the same experience,

stand on your own two feet and just bring the vibe that we normally bring. But you did achieve it. I've seen the whole sets out there for people to watch. You got people in Birkenstocks diving, you know? They're spin kicking in fucking red bottoms, you know? You don't think that's even possible. How did you do that? Well, there was also like a bunch of hoggle people.

They were representing the entire time, which was cool. That's crazy. Yeah. That doesn't happen, you know? Like, Hans Zimmer couldn't even get me there. You know, I mean, those guys saved our life. Those people, like, showed the rest of the audience, like, how to do it. Beautiful, do this.

Which was very nice. I think without that, like, it would have been even harder. But, I mean, it was a fucking sick experience, right? Like, I think we all are on the same page that we loved it, and it was a huge opportunity. But, like, you say, how does it compare to something like Sound Infuri? I don't think it's... does like Sound of Fury is is the sickest thing we've ever

played and that that was really kind of like the new beginning of speed was that Sound Infuri where we talked to you guys that did that little little mini interview was that like who would have thought that day would be where things really kind of launched

that was the life-changing moment well it's rare to at this stage in our lives having doing this for so long to watch a band set and go holy shit they did it like that's a moment you know what I mean and that was a certifiable, like, oh, they just, like, became a thing. You know what I mean? It's, right, we...

That was our 15th show. You know what I mean? Like, because of COVID, like, we had to, you know, we took a two-year break and whatever. And then we came out of COVID, and we'd never ever had any... I mean, like, we loved the idea of potentially maybe going overseas one day with the band, but we didn't expect it. Yeah, was that the goal? Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, we were like, look, if we get the...

opportunity to go play in the US, that'd be like job done, you know what I mean? Like we've ticked every box we could possibly want to tick. So we did that and it was our 15th show and we were like, oh okay, well every, every criteria for the band is satisfied now so everything beyond this is untickable boxes. Right, yeah, and so that's why it just kind of, it kind of just like restarted the band for us. It gave us a new, a whole new like motive. It completely changed, it completely shifted the potential for anything that we as Australian back would ever achieve. Yeah.

Playing sound theory, like 50 lines did it, no apologies did it. Anyone else? No apologies were early, too. In like 2007 or something, but they kind of like, you know, that was already legendary to us, even just playing early in the day

and just being there. Being on American soil. True. It's like I think. But my girlfriend was asking me, like last night, she was like, okay, so how do you feel? Like, how do you feel about the shirt? Like, how do you feel about Coachella?

Because we'll always decompress, like, in the days after. She's like, you don't seem too, like, overwhelmed or like nothing like that and I was like it was it didn't it wasn't mind-blowing like it wasn't a mind-blowing experience because it was like you had to work for it you know what I'm saying Santa Fury sound like you got up there and I was just like what the fuck you know what I'm saying it was literally felt like I was in in like hellfest in the 90s when there's like dustballs going crazy it felt like woodstock of some crazy shit but I was fucking playing you know I mean

how good chel was like just a not to say that we expected it or anything or like it was something that we take for granted at all. It was a fucking incredible opportunity. And like when we got the offer, like we were fucking stoked to do it. Um, but yeah, like, I guess to bring it back this kind of fear, it's like you do that with no expectation. Everything beyond that kind of just feels like bonus stuff. Yeah. It's all great. At this point, you know, like the last, it's weird to say like the last like three years of our lives since it's been out of this time. You're in the free spins, but yeah. You're retriguring every day. How was the vibe otherwise for I've never been to Coachella,

never been there. Did it feel like an industry kind of corporate thing? Oh, 100%. Yeah. It's, I mean, firstly, I would say it's probably the biggest, like,

event that any of us had been to before. I think it's the biggest event you can go to. Right, yeah, there's, like, you think you've seen, like,

a big crowd of people, and then it's, like, 100 times bigger than that. Like, it's, it was quite overwhelming in that sense, just being around that many people.

You bump any elbows? Was anybody cool? My wife met Paris Hilton the other night. Dude, that's huge. That was, that was like stars are blind banger yeah that was a nice moment um yeah like is do itchy skanking side stage while you're playing or what i mean some of our friends are they hang with

around charlie xx for a little bit like you see a lot of a lot of these kind of people like around but also like they're like artist compound is every man in his dog there you know really that's a festival of it's a lot of non artists a lot of not artists sound like a lot of probably like they're like that's what are these people yeah that's What are your thoughts? I've got to get inside your mind. It was cool. I don't know.

I just went in there and it's like, oh. You did your thing. You did another day for me, you know? We had a good time. But it was good. It was really good time. But, you know, got the experience with a lot of people that. There was no, I'm sorry to interrupt you.

There was no moment during the set that I watched that was not like 100% speed, which I appreciated. Like, you guys didn't, you didn't do anything. There was no, like, gimmick. Like, that was the set you would play. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny, the last, I wasn't there at Coachella, obviously, but the last two times I've seen Speed, one was Hellfest.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Coachella. So I've only recently, I've only seen you at the first Sonny Fury, Hellfest and Coachella, which are just giant crowds. And, but obviously I've seen other videos and sets online. I love that the consistency of the energy, the consistency of, like, what you guys are doing.

I think that's really important. Because if you, obviously, if you went on stage at Coachella and you did like some new bullshit, we kind of didn't have time to do anything like that anyway. Was it like rushed? Well, I mean, just a year has been, we've done like a tour in Australia, which is just like a regional sort of essentially playing like small venues

all over Australia. Then we went to Europe with Madball, and then the next thing was Coachella. We haven't stopped touring. We didn't change anything. We haven't stopped touring since April last year. Yeah. Wow.

Like, we had two weeks off over Christmas. How do you feel about that, physically? Is this... Way better than I thought that I anticipated. I thought that at this point, by, like, would be, like, I would have been, I'd lost all my muscle mass. I'd just be, like, fully...

Still Jack. Still Jack. We have some methods. We have some, we have some Asian DNA. Okay. That's good. You need that. You want that.

But we have some hacks that we're born with. Okay. But, no, I... I feel amazing considering it all, obviously. Like, we're doing the best shit. like the most incredible shit about life. Now, speaking of consistency, though, I have to ask you something,

because one of the funniest things I've seen in recent memory was during the flute part at Coachella, you didn't do the second one? And a dude air fluted at you? I didn't notice this, right? And he's like, he walks, he's like, going by to stage that I passed Jam, and he's going like, and then you just didn't do it?

Was that you inviting him? I have to know for his sake, if you're watching, sir. This is the first time I ever forgot to do it. I fully just forgot. Because I think this is it is that it was like, I was, I didn't anticipate, okay, every set that we play, I feel like I am a personal trainer and I'm there. And sometimes you've got someone who wants to be a bodybuilding, wants to compete. And sometimes you've got the person that's just dragged in there and they don't even want to be there. Totally.

So depending on the top crowd, you're playing too. You know what I'm saying? this show to me felt like I was like a commando at a fucking boot camp like trying to like whip these people like like crazy you know what I'm saying it was like hard work so there's no time for flute as a thing I think at the end of it

I think it I was just so in my head and I saw Aaron playing the bass part and I was like oh that's meant to be me oh I just didn't do it but I didn't notice until I watched the live stream back that this dude was going and doing it for me anyway you know so that you did a good job commanding he did what to do He had never even heard that song.

He had never even heard that song. He knew that flute was there. That has to be the first time ever. Anyone was mid-stage dive? And air fluting to no flutes. Surely that's never happened before ever. It's a miracle. So you got, a beautiful thing is that you got to dedicate

the biggest set of your lives to two of your friends that had just passed. And like you guys as, the same core group of people has been in this band since the inception. The same core group of people like lifted this band from local Sydney band

to worldwide phenomenon. How is that getting to dedicate this beautiful moment to your friends? We always like say that we're just the product of a larger friendship group back at home. Like everything that I know that we know, our values, the way that we see the world

is all informed by just these friendships that we met. I know that it might sound corner to some people or like whatever but it's... When you go to shows when you're like 12 years old, And you from a small place like Australia and Sydney especially like you're just and and and it's not that many people like in the scene like you get to know each other so well over these years and anyways I feel without going on like a crazy spill like I feel like so fucking grateful in my life that we found this thing called hardcore because I see some of the other people brother like they don't get the same kind of excitement or they don't get the same kind of meaning out of the things that

that they're involved in in their lives because for hardcore, like it's, we have power chords, it's fucking spin kicks. Amen. It's so rudimentary. It's the most primitive, simple, basic shit ever. Every song's kind of about friendship at the end of the day, and people hear that and laugh peripherally. But we mean that shit.

Literally. If you think that's corny in any way, you don't get it. You don't deserve to get it. I get it more than ever when our best friends who we've met through the shit have passed away and have left us and have left the world with nothing but the memories and the experiences that we made together, which was so powerful. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're here in America doing this together, hanging out, doing all these amazing things because we just played in this kind of music that we thought as kids would never amount to anything beyond a fucking gig on the weekend.

You know what I'm saying? A demo, yeah. And having time it up with us, Alex Arthur with us, and RJ would. with us like these are some of our best friends that would that we met through this shit who are on stage with us and all the best moments of our lives like Tammett was with us and all the biggest shows we've ever played in Australia and if you could have left Australia he would have traveled with us to RJ was with us when we played have heart last year in in Boston he was out of

release show in like LA like Alex Arthur was at the very first sound of fury with us and the second one you know what I'm saying like these are guys that you know what it's like when you have your homies behind you on stage just there with you like mashing on stage yeah but just that feeling of like oh I'm good they're here yeah yeah and I don't know I feel like the only way that we can respond to like the I'm trying to get heavy on this shit but like it was it's been devastating to lose these people full the only way to respond that is just to continue like pushing their legacy yeah because I feel so lucky that we were the ones they got to know like RJ and thomas and

and also selfishly just having their banners up there with us oh No, no, that was like... Oh, that fuels you. But it's like... It felt like they were there. Yeah. Like, RJ would have loved... They would have been so fucking stoked,

knowing that we were playing this, like, and just... Even more so than I, like, I... Yeah, I don't know. It's a... That's just, yeah. Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah. It's awesome.

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Back to this incredible first episode on the brand new hardthor channel. Enjoy. I know that this is going to be fire no matter what, because I can smell it. And, uh, but just look at this cup. You can serve anything in this cup and charge whatever the fuck you want.

And it's going to, you know it's going to smack. Give it. All right. Milk, cream bun. Woo. But yeah, it was in since then. And I just kept the same membership since then. When was that?

2013. Oh, crap. Crushing, dude. You used to have really long hair. I did. I think you look better. I think this is you. Man.

You know? I think exactly. I think so. I think you figured it out. I think you both figured it out. too. This ain't about us. 2019 speed starts. Tell me about putting the demo together.

Who's primarily writing this stuff? How does this five group of guys get assembled? The Australian Avengers, some would say. I would too. I want to sing in the band. I want to do a back with my brother. Thank you. Brother didn't play anything.

He's so silly, your brother, man. He's silly? He comes up in your life. He comes up and he says. smiling and you're like there he is you know what him when he's smiling is a good dick oh he that's a he's got an infectious smile

he can get fucking bastard he can get fucking bastard to be really yeah my brother is a boss that's a that's a standard brotherment he's an evil little guy he seriously he's just a cheeky little that's a silly thing to be though so you know whatever impression you have my little brother from speed fuck that

yeah he's a boss he's evil bastard He's evil bastard. He's a sicker. He's the best. I love him. So who's writing this demo? Yeah. What's the vibe?

What's the intention coming into it? There's wanted to write. He's wanted to write. Just wanted to write the hard quote that I wanted to hear. And I remember that the references back then up. I was like, I wanted to sound like something like minus meets in nine. Minus is an infine. Minus is an.

For speed? Yeah. I'm thinking about my best, especially then going into it, like my favorite records that I was referencing were mostly like seven inches and stuff. Like then I was going back to the shit that I was listening to when we were like later high school, girl coming out of high school. And it was like that Soul Search EP, King Nine, Criminal Instinct, that kind of stuff. And so anyways.

Minus. It's crazy. I think I went to every Minus show. It's just, because it's just tough. Yeah. It's just tough

without trying to be overly, gimmically hard or like how a lot of stuff is now and like it's, it's actually just fucking tough, hard music.

You know what I'm saying? Travis? He did great. But anyways, but anyways, put that pizza. Travis Reminas owns a pizza place called Backbench

in Ventura now. Check it out. Very in theme with today's always. Very good. Who's, Who's riffing? Who's coming up with riffs? Really?

He's going to write everything. There's a one-man band essentially when I saw this. Really? Wow. And then it was just, the only criteria for starting a band, in my opinion, is with your homies. The name is a harkle band, Moshes. Yeah. So.

That's the best Moshes make the best bands. That's the rules. Dennis. That's how I know Dennis. I feel like it is. Which Pitt? Which Pitt? Are you talking about the fullback situation or?

No, no, no, no. This is, I mean, I think we, I don't know if we probably met, you came to America before I went to Australia. Yes. And, um, we met at your, uh. At the pit, the OG pit? Yeah. It's pretty cool. What year?

2015. What tour? Were you on? Was it rotting out, take offense, minus, you know, minus. Call comes back to minus, maybe every time. That's so crazy. Yeah. So what, what's the state?

of Australian hardcore in 2019. Like, what's going on? That you're going thinking... We need this. I need... We need this now. This is a really good question because, like, speed was really intentional

when we started. It was... Sometimes I think maybe the narrative about speed is that, like, oh, it just came out of nowhere, but we really specifically started this with a mission in mind because hardcore was so

insane during the in 2000s when we all fell into it because of the parkway drive it was massive right but then to from the like 2014's onwards into COVID it fucking dwindled bro like it's so funny because I came in 2014 that was the I mean that was probably the tail end of a of a of a good era and then from there it kind of that that break the ice was incredible too july disgrace set like it was fucking that was really cool yeah was he went 2012 and it was good yeah 2015 and it was different yeah for sure sure you guys I feel like when Homsway came the second time it was a little bit of an anomaly

because Australia does reward bands that come back definitely do you know what I mean and I feel like like you guys are a great example of that I feel like every time home's way comes to Australia it's gets bigger and better every time absolutely but for the most part yeah from about 2015 onwards the amount of bands coming to Australia reduced pretty drastically those are the dark times yeah yeah for sure and I think like people say it was kind of similar over here as well but But with Australia being so remote, you really felt the difference from when we were growing up getting into it to then being in our late 20s and like barely being able to go to a show with like 50 people at it, you know what I mean? And maybe one or two bands coming from overseas every year. And like even then, like it was only like the biggest ones.

Terror is coming. Right, yeah. Yeah. What Australian band during that time, during the dark time, who was bearing the load? I would say probably I mean primitive blasts were super active that's when they were doing all their shit Iron Mind yeah

Iron Mind did a Life and Death tour that we did Yeah yeah they opened And they were like constant professionals Oh yeah New record coming soon Yeah mixed by my brother Oh very sick Awesome yeah that's awesome

Yeah but when they kind of wound up And then were Like from the moment that they stopped Like he can kind of tell that things were slowing down as well But yeah Yeah like primitive blast I think ill nature would be doing a lot of stuff around that time because I've had them.

After getting back, it was kind of my mission. Because I've done a bunch of tours, a lot of overseas tours, and rarely am I, like, impressed by what's going on. Australia right now, I've never seen such a plethora of bands where all of us in the band afterwards were like,

did you see they were fucking good? And this was happening every show, because there were... You couldn't wait to report to me the insane... I could not wait. That's awesome. What are, give me some of them.

The chain. Yep. Yeah. They didn't even have a fucking, they didn't even have a, fucking, they didn't even have a demo on. New Melbourne, yeah, young men.

Yeah, Melbourne. We played with them at that Rebs bar with the cages, right? Yeah. Blood mouth, right? Blood mouth is incredible. Blood mouth, yeah.

Blood mouth is, I can't believe Flood I may go vegan. I'll listen to my he sent me the new record last night, I'll send it to you. But Implode, like covered breakdown and it sounded like breakdown and they're like 19

you know they're young um jailed oh dude timepiece obviously friend of the show Robin singing in timepiece but yeah there's just like a plethora of bands going on right now

and I want to know you have to know that in part that's because of you guys I mean we would never he agrees yeah I mean I think I don't think we would ever take any credit for it but like we were talking about it the other day and I think

the the big shift in Australia in the last few years as well that kind of sets it apart from that like pre-COVID era is for the first time there's a new generation yeah and there you're just hasn't been one for so long like we were pushing 30 and we were still we're still the young people came in as the young kids at the new jacks that were getting teased and bullied and all that kind of shit for and having our own fun and creating our own little groups you know as you do when you come in and then fucking 10 years later we're like looking around being like no the last ones left and I think that was a big reason as well because like people new kids didn't start coming to shows and also

the people that fizzled out like start talking shit on about hardcore like the whole mood about hardcore around a lot of people in Australia was like apathetic like people were too cool for it they're moving on to like other stuff like and whatever and we were still in it and being like exactly we also went through our own thing our own journey of it being like fuck like maybe is it over? Like, I don't know. And we came to a decision as a group of friends like, no, this is the fucking best shit ever.

It's like, I love this shit more as I'm getting older, you know what I'm saying? I feel the same. Yeah, absolutely. Youth crew lyrics from 1986 have never hit harder. Oh, right. In my mid-30s. But yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to make you feel bashful or to

unhumble you in any way, but surely you have to identify that if that boom started around 2020 or post-COVID. I think that we are part of... Part of the wave. Part of a wave that's happening everywhere in the world.

We happen to be a band that started the right time with the right intentions in 2019. Going into COVID, when you had lockdown and all that, who would have known what would happen? Sure. Or if you put that on paper, everything would have pointed to hardcore dying. You can't go to shows, you're disconnected,

what's going to happen? You know what I'm saying? And it was the thing that made hardcore the biggest has ever been. Like Wallen Gomb is probably lit as fuck right now. Literally. And that's unimaginable to me.

When we were growing up, there would be 15 to 20 to 8 tours, All Ages shows in Australia. I know that concept is a bit weird maybe outside of Australia, but in Australia, like, because of the laws, we have to have specifically all ages and 18 plus.

Anyways, all-Ager shows died out, but growing up, like, seeing these kind of shows, like long tours, all over different parts of Australia, with big-ass rooms, with a thing, not big-ass rooms, but like, you know, good attendees. Yeah. And that all died.

And Speed just did a fucking, we just did a 17-date Australian tour to, like, regional areas. And it was all sold out with local bands only 100% Australian. And I'm not saying that to flex, like, what we've done. I'm saying that because we are literally here being like, everything we fucking dreamed about getting back to for the last 12 years. Like, it's literally happening. Yeah. And it's a movement of people on board.

And it's better now than it is. Yeah, it seemed better. For sure, yeah. Not to, like, I know what you're saying, but we're not, we're not like talking about this shit to pat ourselves on the back, but also, like Jim said, we started this band with a very specific intention because we weren't happy with, like, the state of things. We were like, fuck this thing that we care about so much

that we know all of our friends from is dying, and that sucks. So we had this idea of what we wanted hardcore to be, and I guess we just kind of manifest and try to put everything that we could into action to bring it to a place where it was something awesome that like everybody could celebrate and you know everybody had the right intentions with it and that's honestly kind of what we're living at the moment like it's you're about to say it's exactly like hate breed it's exactly like jasa that was what he did that's great did you think the same thing that did he saw he got kicked out of a fulgazi show for moshing and then went home and started hate breaking but so did his

friends they got kicked out too and they're like well there's a need let's make this let's fill this need for Speed Thank you You guys want to go look at some old and hardcore shirts Yes That sounds really nice That sounds fucking awesome We're here with Speed

We're back We're at Varsity in Los Angeles Where they've got all kinds of crazy vintage denim They make their own jackets And pants But in the back Tucked Is a secret little vintage store

With some of the best Hardcore shirts of all time Metal everything you need So we're going to go check it out Let's go check it out Let's go check it out Let's go check He really took it away with him.

That was a good intro. Oh, yeah. How are you, bro? Not to see ya. Hey. This is Vic. He's the owner and proprietor of Mills Vintage. He's from Russia.

Yeah, we gotta be surprised. He's from Russia. You may recognize him. There's a picture of him when he was very young. Oh, fuck off. Had it up, dude. They went multi-platinum on television. Oh, that was you?

Yes. You know I'm fucking around? I had no idea. Come on, come on. Come on. Oh, that network poster. Stop in a big. Yeah?

Nice. We're back here wearing wheels vintage. I just wanted this beautiful backdrop of old-ass, expensive shirts to talk about, let's see what we can find in here. Jim, pick me a winner, would you? Pick you a winner. Yeah. I mean, I already found one over here, which is just, everybody have a look. Get on.

The Fury of 5T is fucking crazy. There you go. What kind of print is I mean? Ink. Yeah. It just, it takes on a different quality after a while. Absolutely, let's see. They call that discharge.

That's a lot of colors. It is, that's too many of this. This had to have been expensive in that thing. 98, yeah. You know? Beautiful. I have a 98 baseball tea. Writing breakdowns with only pinch harmonics.

Is that true? Well, you look at the demo cover, and you look at the whole layout of it is it's a madball. Is Madball? Yes. We were toured with Madball last month in Europe. And I was on stage literally being like, just fucking look at the demo. Look at the speed logo.

Like, you can... Who designed the speed logo? Pat Galvin. Patrick? Oh, I know Pat. Pat Galvin from Canberra. He's known well. He did the God's Hate logo.

He was one of my mortal enemy for about a month. And then my great friend for many years. He was a Parkway Drive logo. Legend. He's a beast. He's a beast. The what? About Patty Vee.

I told it in another. episode, but when we tour with I Exist, which is how we met Aaron. Before the tour, I found a tweet online from an account named at Patrick Galvin. He was anonymous on there, but the tweet

was, oh my God, twitching tongues sucks so fucking bad. I can't believe I have to tour with this fan. So I'm going into the tour like, I got to find this Patrick Galvin guy. Day one, I find a passport in the Ireland. Patrick Galvin.

In the urinal. In the urinal. Pissed out. What the fuck with the do? Yeah. And I brave it. Pick out, find it. And then me and Patty are, boys, day two, have a great time.

Thank God. Hatchet buried. Yeah, I'll hatchet. Way buried. And then he designed multiple albums for me. It is what it is. Yeah. So what do we got here?

The visual aspects of speed, I think, are so integral to the band. Like, the demo has, the logo is borderline the same as it is now. You figured it out very early. So how intent, we know now the band itself was very intentional. How intentional are all the visual aspects of the man? Who is doing that? There's no, there's no like, curated or orchestrated kind of formula with what we did.

For the demo, for example, you go back to it, one train of thought that we had was that, people will probably hear this and they might just think they're an Australian band. Cool. Sorry, sorry, they might just think we're an American band, sorry. Yeah. So it was really important that we put our photo of ourselves on it so people could see what we look like behind the music. And that was an intentional part about like promoting Australian hardcore culture, is that you can see what the people of our scene kind of look like. And I guess that's just kind of been the running theme. It's just like we're just championing like who we are as individuals and just putting that in the front.

you know that's why the album is like a photo i love that i'm coming thank you love it and you say that that's not like curated or intent but that's so like you just described you described full intent in a beautiful way because it's authentic i guess i mean this visually though it's not like we're hey you wear this and we wear this or like we're gonna like do this like it's just when we did the we see you video the first video that we did it was referencing down by law The first movie. The first movie. The down vinyl video, the punishment video, Shades the Grey.

And then literally, our Sydney Harbour Bridge is the Brooklyn Bridge. You know what I'm saying? We're just like, this is the shit we love. This is the kind of like the shit that looks fresh to us. But we're just going to do it our way and be the people in that fucking scene, you know. It's fantastic. Is that true, Dennis? Yep.

Cool. It's facts. He's speaking facts. Who is physically designing all? all your merch is cohesive even when it's different. It's like it's a very eye-catching, it's very GQ.

It's Aaron. Aaron. You're a brother. Yeah, we were literally, like, the last thing we did last night was we were just in the room just going through the designs and the last merch for this next two of them that we're coming up, for example, and me and me and him were just like going through it each day and Aaron's like, Aaron is a beast, me.

Aaron's... He's the secret weapon. I grew up as a hip-hop dancer. He was like on Karmaloop and like, you know, that kind of shit when he was like 11 or 12. He started his like clothing brand thingy out of his bedroom when he was like, I don't know. 18 or something. Yeah, like in the high school. And he wasn't in the hardcore until later.

And I think he married like his approach to starting a street with small. I mean, when I say it's a street where like thing, it's just, he just is out of his bedroom. But like marrying that with the culture of like. That bedroom is on a street. Every, every band is a brand. in some extent. You know what you mean? So it's it translates very well. I think he found the story with Adam finding hardcore though is the sickest thing for us because he found it because of the culture first and the music second. Beautiful. He was like all of your friends jam are like into this shit and you guys all have these bonds and you guys talk the same shit, the same values, blah blah blah, you do the same shit and I identify with that. And then he found the music after. And so anyways, he comes out a lot of this from a different angle. Yeah. With that in his mind and it's a

Having a secret weapon. Sorry, having a shirt wizard in the band, there are certain roles that if you have them in the band, it's invaluable. It's the greatest hack known to man. You've got several. I got a couple. Because you have... You got Martine.

You got your brother to record. That's a huge role. We've got to have these hacks. You got Dennis, OG, Mosher. I mean, Dennis is... Dennis is, like, one of the biggest hacks. Dennis is, like... You can't...

You can't... You cannot, like, you cannot type in, like, okay, we're in the age of going to AI and fucking chat GTPT or all that kind of bullshit. You cannot type in nothing into that system to spit this kind out. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is pure a gift of the earth that's just come out of. That is the most Australian thing I've ever heard about it. Nothing you could type in the chat GPD to spit this con out. The facts.

What do we got here, Vic? Anything new for me? So many things? I see this right here. There's this right there. We were just talking about Sickwood All. That's another one. They tore Australia a lot.

They just came in the last year. Recently, yeah. How did they? That's good. They played the Manicville Bolo, which is like literally a 200-cap pub. A lawn balls club. You guys have long balls in the US?

Long balls? Long balls? Long balls. Sorry. I was thinking about something else. I was going to say, yeah, we do. Trust me. this is a croquet

I think that's Mottaleo era right yeah yeah yeah 96 that would be

myelada this this is something that speed references the spud monsters this is a speed reference oh wow what did they put

I sold that to him you sold this no they have my right right that's hilarious you guys are spud monster's heads you're pulling

minus and spud monsters into speed? Bro, I love Biazad. This was like the... This was like the warm-up Bihazard or the Bihad... The homie Spud Monster sang replaced Evan, right?

The drummer. What, did what? For Spun monsters and drama of why I was right? Is it? Pose Danny? And then the, but then the homie Spud Monster

sang for Evan in his place. Right? Didn't he? I don't... I may be wrong, but I don't think I am. Look this up on YouTube. And you will hear some thinks.

Really? That you've heard on a speed record. Wow. Yeah, hard as fuck. What's the most out-of-the-box thing you've ever ripped off? Give them the example. I took, the God's hate intro is started from a Barry White song. Oh, well.

That's nuts. There's definitely a couple things, but I can't disclose. No, no. I can't disillaz anything. I can't think of it. Okay. my brain uh this is embroiderer i have to i have to keep thinking well by you i mean none of them are crazy like niche stuff right like it's it's generally just hardcore something you know it takes

something from now but there's definitely like like out of the box where you're taking some jazz riff and turn it into a breakdown there's a lot of things though that i'm like a lot of the tiles well jam's a pretty musical guy too you know what like you yeah you're a background of music yeah I will like, for example, like, I, there's definitely a couple songs where I've heard, like, uh, if you, if you, I'll have playlists where I'm like saving things I've heard to reference for speed. Yeah. Yeah. But a lot of it is just like, it might just be like a jungle song that I heard like last month or something.

Well, there's a long silver cylindrical elephant in the room here. The flute. What do you, what, how? What happened there? What? I imagine you've been playing flute for a long time. From day one where you got, were you like, you know, guys, this might be the part where we can put the flute in. And they're like, no.

And you're like, shut up, con. Was it one day they were finally ready to do. I think everybody else was like that to me, my whole life, bro. Everyone was like, when you're going to put the flute in? I'm like, why the fuck would I ever do that? Like, how did it ever possibly work? You found a way, much like Jurassic Park. The story for me playing the flute, bro, is that I'm just like, most other Asian kids out there in the Western,

went to a Western school where they have a band program, and I was giving the flute, and I was sick, and they did the lessons. And actually, sorry, the difference, though, is that my parents being Asian aren't actually that culturally Asian in the sense that they never pushed me to do shit. Really? But I got to the age of like 17 or whatever,

I was still playing it. Every time I wanted to quit the flute, I was like, but my parents have paid like this extra money and money. I can't just quit now. Anyways, I did it. in university like flute yeah damn wow you're a fucking a learned floutist at the end of high school i was like i don't know what i want to do i just want to do music and my flute teachers music teachers like you should try it for the conservatorium so i just did it because it couldn't

go and fucking play hard guitar school or whatever so did that and then i became a flute teacher and i did that for 14 years until what years that was my job like until last year when Wow. They got any big venues or like opera houses in Sydney that you could play? Have you done that? Opera house, yeah. No fucking. Did you really?

Yeah. You rock the flute at the opera, up the opera house. Yeah. What? It was like, in high school, I got like picked to do my high school performance at the opera house or something. Did you have a shirt on? I would personally. I would personally.

I wouldn't have if I was you. But that was pre-jim. I hadn't been off-jim yet for like another three, four years before that. Yeah, were you a skinny guy? I was a fat guy growing up, and then I became, like, I guess, like a skinny fat guy when I was out of that. I would have been growing up there with, like, the alien from American Dad physique. Oh, that's about mine.

I got that. I got that. There's many of us. Yeah. We're out there. We're so out there. We're so out there. Yeah.

I'm more of a Brian Griffin guy. Yeah. You know, here physically. but you guys are you guys are fucking killing this is not about us it's not about us it's about us oh I think when you are

this is kind of an abstract question but when you guys are trying to plan a shirt when you have an idea that you want to give your brother or you know you want something do you pull from any particular band's catalog like is like a riff you go to millsvintage.com

and screenshot we definitely have we definitely have Oh, I do it all the time. You have to. I will say... We've taken flyers from AF and, I mean, yeah, the Madball logo thing is a good example. Biohazard we borrowed from them before. A lot of tour...

A lot of tour posters that we do, or tour shirts. Yeah. Like, I think those are probably the... There's definitely like a couple of Madball Europe Ts from meals that we've screen-shotted and being like this kind of layout fresh. You know what I'm saying? But just referencing the classics. Sick of it all is a bigger one. Like, bro, we're Asian and we do like dragons and shit.

and shit, but like, Secretadol have the dragon. They got the best dragon. You know what I'm saying? Steedy. The Mobb Deep agreed. Yeah. That's the other thing is that

sometimes Aaron will pull out stuff too and you'll be like, yo, this is fucking sick. Where he's approaching it from a different perspective. That's cool, yeah. That's cool.

You got it all. Yeah. You got fucking Kardashians in your shit. What was your first impression of that? Because, I mean, the first, like, hardcore mind,

you look at that and you're like, ah, come on. But then a guy from Sydney mine, you go, that's kind of crazy. Hectic ass. Everything with speed, bro, this whole experience is a piss take. It's just a fucking piss take. It's just like, what next? You know what I'm saying? Everything is just a laugh, and I'm, I welcome it because it makes for a fucking incredible varied life experience. You know what I'm saying? So, that was beautiful.

Meeting the car, bro, we played the shrine and knock loose last year, and Travis messaging, Dennis is messaging being like, I'm going to pull up with wife. The homie, Travis. So we were opening with Knock Loose and we had fucking old mate from Sepultura, Toby Morse, XYZ, like the most LA shit ever. And then Travis Scott and, sorry, Travis Barker and Courtney Kardashian on the seat's guest list. Wow. They came and watched us. And then I went and spoke to, okay, at that show, I thought I had blown my voice. Oh, no.

And we were 10 days in the Knock Loose tour and I was freaking out. And I was like, holy fuck. I still have like 60 shows ahead of me, what I'm going to do? And I was sitting trying to like gather my thoughts after we played. And then they were like, yo, Travis and Courtney's over there. So I was like, I'm going to go say, what's up? I walked over. And then Courtney was there, and she's like telling me,

they just had a baby called Rocky, and she was like, When I see Rocky, I go up to him and I do this voice where I talk to him like, like this. And Travis was like, oh, you should try being like a hardcore vocalist. You sound like the guy from speed. And she told me that she was watching his play from side stage, and she was like, I reckon I could do this. I can I do this?

And I was there being like, sick, nice. And in my head, I was like, what? I want to tell Gemma, my girlfriend about this when I get home. And this is a weird conversation that comes with like someone who's meant to be quite famous. But she was super down earth. And, bro, they literally got a Uber to see us and start their date night at the speech on that. There's Mother's Day.

They're doing Mother's Day. They're doing Mother's Day. And she's a mother. She's a mother. Thanks you think. But they were down. Wow. Beautiful.

And the lesson we forget, of course, Shaq. Dude, Shaq loves speed. The homie... Shaq is why I got a Twitter in 2009. I saw a picture of him eating an ice cream cone. And I was like, I gotta get on this. Bro, Vittick Shaq was... I don't think I've ever met somebody who wanted to be in a place less than Shaq.

Really? It was at the meet and green. He did a tour of Australia where he just did like... DJs. speaking engagements. And if you can go out. Some like promoter just brings out like Hussbler and him and like a bunch of people. Shack and Hussbler tour?

Well, yeah, I think they linked up on that. I got to get on that. But he did like this big spoken word performance, I guess, at the casino. And they did a big meet and greet after. And we were in the room. And it was probably like 500 people had meeting greet tickets. And they would have spent like $1,000 or something to do this. and I reckon maybe a third of them actually got to meet and greet Jack and the rest of all got sent home

but they ushered us like to the front of the thing right before and we're like we'll just go like we don't have to do this yeah anyway push us onto this stage and we walk up and he's standing there in front of like a photo wall and we're like Jack what's up and he was like hey take the photo and then he was fucking out of there really yeah he was done he was sleepy Charles Martin wasn't there no Charles Marcus I mean that would have been electric shot dude out of the most true I love too the thing that put that made Shack seemed so huge was the fact that...

The hut. Dennis. The photo... You look at the photo, you look at the photo and look at Shaq and then look at Dennis. Dennis literally looks like a small child. You're a big guy.

He's a big guy. Especially when it's just the five of us rolling all the time. Dennis is like, Elvis is dad. And then next to Shaq it was like, you're his little baby. Do you guys have

a favorite hardcore t-shirt of all times? Honestly, I'm holding a book of hardcore shirts at the moment, and there was one at the top, which I think might be the one. Ryan from Desperate Regers, big shout out. This incredible book. There's an ice-minton tea in here somewhere. That right there. Oh, yeah.

That design tells you what the band sounds like. Do you know what I mean? Ooh. Interesting. I can see. Get it, get it. Pick it, get it. That song is five minutes long.

Isn't that crazy? What was your favorite? I can't find that... Which one? What is it? Copatian, Krispy Kreme. Oh, dude. Old Australian Harko Van Claude Carpathian,

they put a record out on Death Wish, but before that, they sounded like on Broken Wings. And they were the band of the mid-2000 in Australia around the time where, like, just taking the logo and ripping off anything in the world could be a design. Sure. And they had one that was just a white,

t-shirt, crispy cream logo, but it said Carpathian instead. Wow. And any show that you went to in Australia in 2006, 2007, you would say at least 30 in that show. So that was your kids like us Coke shirt? 100%. Yes, exactly.

The FruLoop. The First Blub. The First Blood. The First Blood was fucking harsh as shit. You got any of those coming in here? You could probably get that one on Mad Vindridge. That one's good. Oh, wow. You're right. Didn't First Blood make a Frosted Flakes one after? Yeah. The Wild

success of the fruit loops Tony on it yeah but anything is possible the fruit loops one might have stopped a bullet oh so thick it was so thick it was printed with milk actual milk first time ever Vic what's your favorite hardcore shirt

of all time my I mean how many of those are there do you think I have one you do you do you do you wow James Vitella's got one so there's two

Singh's got one that's three Ryan Ryan's got one okay so we know we know we know O-5. Boyle wore his all the time, which was awesome

when he was in the band. They reprinted him, isn't that a crazy? The fact that you can just go buy the demise shirt at a much table of the show, they don't know how lucky you are. That's a good, it's a good pick. I love that it's printed and inverted. Because they were probably like,

I don't know what the fuck. What the fuck is inversion? This, I don't know what the equivalent is in America, but this was the most, popular hardcore tea at least in my memory when we were in the mid 2000s in Australia

no apologies is it the TUI Reaper long sleeve oh that one's good this I would say it would be the TUI Reaper shirt

the outburst I'm sorry the outbreak your scum your scum shirt that's what that's what that is that is the yourscum t-shirt of Australia

that's the one where you go to the shopping center on the weekend and there's a dude sitting out the front of the KFC and he looks at you

and he's got no a paw Lord, geez. He just looks at you and he goes. And you go. The KFC. Yeah. Tell me about KFC in Australia. I mean, it's probably one of the best ones.

I think it's awesome. We don't have as much fast food as, uh, you guys have Oporto. Like you fuck with it? Oh my God. I love that shit. The fucking Prego sauce? That's delicious.

Yeah, Bondi. That's a good. Bondi Beach. It is so good. The thing about Australia is that we don't have as much fast food. It's a different culture. and we don't have that much food I need but what we do have is really high quality

agriculture and high quality food products. So like KFC in Australia and McDonald's for example is different because just the quality of the beef and the quality of the chicken and whatever is just fresh. And I mean that in all terms of the words. With that said if you eat KFC

there's a pretty strong chance you're going to need the toilet like immediately after you know, you know, It crosses all cultural bounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No problem. But that's part of the experience. You want to flush yourself out, you go to Kes.

You see that place when I do? Yeah, it's cropped. I try it on. Is it? How cropped? It's very cropped. I still almost got it. How many like $700 shirts have you destroyed by chopping the...

Of many to his chagrins, but I got most of them before there were $700. Yeah, very true. How many typos shirts you got? Well? I counted I have 18. Wow. I gave you a couple. You gave me one.

15 were before they took off. So it's kind of just you hang on to them. But we were just talking about this is like when you crop a shirt, when you alter it in any way, that's you saying. That's my declaration of this will never leave me. So Vic, I'm sorry to destroy all those shirts, but then they're mine forever. You can't have them anyway. You have an opinion on that? Do you have an opinion on cropping shirts?

Don't do it. You hate it. You hate it. Leave them along, man. No, they're mine. That's how they meant to be. They're all mine. Let me ask you, Vic, is there any, any grail shirt that you've not found that you've wanted to find, whether for the store or for yourself or anything?

That's dope. Taken by four smirrera. I got one. A t-shirt. I got one. Let's talk. It's the first Maraher shirt. It is.

I got one. Yep. Those bootlegs make me sick, I'll be honest with you. And you over the iceman shirts. Yeah. Well, I figure I'll try it on that cigarette shirt and then maybe it's lunchtime. Let's do it. That sounds great.

That's eat. Where are we at, Kyle? We're at Little Fish in Echo Park. Beautiful establishment owned by Nikki, the drummer of Cosmic Joe. He's been gracious enough to let us into their kitchen today to try their iconic fried fish sandwich and a couple other extra things. I can't wait. I'm starving. eat. Okay, we're inside Little Fish now. Nicky is going to show us how good he is at his thing.

Now, what are you doing for us, Nikki? We're making fried fish sandwiches, which is like, by far the thing, we make the most of here. How do you feel about that? Because I know that at first, your goal wasn't to be the fried fish sandwich restaurant. No, we didn't even, for the first, like, six months we were doing Little Fish out of the house. We didn't even make sandwiches. We just were making like fried fish and like spending so much time, like making like nice salads and stuff to go with it. Sort of like like a fish and chips kind of thing. But like we weren't going to make fries. So uh, and uh, and then we just had a friend who was like, yeah, you guys should make a sandwich and we threw it together and then like, we're like, oh, we'll do it one day. Like we'll run sandwiches and see what happens and it was

like by far the busiest day we ever had. Wow. And so just right away. Yeah, yeah, like that. Wow. So she's your opinions. We've been sort of married to the sandwich ever since, but, you know, we're stoked on it. I think we've only made them better. I agree. I'm excited. I haven't had it in a while.

I have a question for you. Yeah. What percentage of your demographic is from China? What percentage of the demographic is Asian? Significant. I believe that. I believe that. I didn't know you were going to take us to a fish sandwich restaurant.

Or at home, we would call it a fish burger restaurant. I didn't know this, and I feel like this has been set up perfectly for us, or at least me and Dennis. I didn't think about this. I do know for a fact that Dennis was once a fishmonger. Tell me about your experience, mongering fish. I wasn't a fiasmonger, huh? I wasn't actually fish monger, however. No, really?

A fake one? What does that mean? It was TV commercial. Oh! You were in a TV commercial? Yeah. What brand was it for? What product was it for?

There it is. Wow. But he did it for aspirin, like an aspirin and... Oh. We got padded all here? No. No. Do it?

What is it? It's like aspirin. Paracetamol. The biggest brand is... The active ingredient is that. Exactly, it's... So, a plate of fish my eye and then. What did you do to get into character?

Sorry? What did you do to get into character? Yeah, what was your motivation? He was method for like a month. Yeah. Mongering? He couldn't talk to him. Fishing all there.

I was just myself feel. Oh, okay, that's dope. This fucking barramundi. He was stressed in the scene as well. It was a busy day at the... Oh, fuck. No, he's at the... He's like at the shop.

Just like, uh... With the fish. And the real fish is all. Apron on. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, we'll cruelty regulation. Yeah.

We'll send you the scene. We'll send you the scene. So it was a real, real, um... Real fish market. Yeah. Here it is. Yeah. Well, it was an actual fish monitor.

So if you have any questions for the... Yeah, if you need to know anything about fish. I know about 12 months' worth. Okay. Nikki, any questions about fish? What are we using, by the way? What's the cut? This is a striped bass from Baja.

Oh, that's a fish. What are you in a second? Man, you know, Icelandic salmon, you got your coho, your copperhead salmon. We had halibut, cod, tilapia. Did you have a preference for which one? was the best to have sex with? No.

There's a long-standing rumor. Started by... Boom. I don't know. It's disgusting. Yeah. Yeah, it's not true, by the way. Stripe bass.

Nicky, did you test different kinds of fish, or did you land on this right away? Yeah, so we actually... That's another thing for the first. few months we were using local rockfish which is like a wild fish that's like really plentiful locally it's we're in an interesting spot of that because it's not like it's really it's really plentiful but it's not available 100% of the time it's a little weather dependent and so this striped bass comes from like comes from a farm in Baja but that we visited it's like the most beautiful place

I've ever seen yeah yeah but this one farm is actually going out of business so we're probably switching back to local rock fish but uh do you have a preference between the two or are they comparable they're pretty comparable they're different but uh i'll let you know if i noticed today yeah i've had this thing a lot and is that that was it you just though just the two uh yeah like we've tried with halvin and stuff yeah that's expensive yeah exactly as far of the price point that makes sense that's a wrap which also like to be clear like there's so many people that

think like that we're using like frozen tilapia and stuff like we get these reviews all the time and it's like the fish we use is so expensive it costs me so much money I wish I was using frozen columbia do you want to address whatever your worst gulp or

Google review is right now is it the British guy saying that you should use maybe a nice piece of European cheese that's our favorite review for sure there was a guy who was like no joke it tastes like you're using Kraft American cheese we're like yeah yeah no yeah like honestly it reminds me of fast food yeah that's the whole point yeah we're trying to make you think of that and like have that experience but just like better to elevated to live it yeah exactly

so like he so almost had it yeah which is just incredible. Legends. Also, his bottom was lift, laugh, love. Oh, perfect. Speaking of which, speaking of which, you guys touring in America, you talked about earlier, you got to keep the physical regimen up. Our food,

not the best for you, historically. It's high in calories. Oh, yeah, we love a calorie. I just ate, like, an animal for over two weeks in Australia, over two weeks in Europe. I weighed less coming home. Europe takes fat all. somehow it's insane fucking bread 10 times a day and you come home you're also going over there with so much more mass than you did like the last

time you were in Australia so your your machine is right last time I was in Australia I was big right yeah was I was I was over weight but you were in it different kind of engine going I need a different shi know calories for sure but are you finding like when you tour when you do that long not close to her for example was it difficult go on having I literally I literally I literally did a check a blood test just before I came here because it was like one year since speed been touring full time and we spent three months in America last year and my health was great oh I think that it was everything was fine and the difference

I think was there you go we're good well but I okay I thought that going and spending this much time in America was gonna like fuck up our routine our physical routine our mental routine all that shit but the easiest thing about touring America is that every calorie is fucking listed out on the menu already. That is true. Yeah, very true. Shrack your calories, hit your protein, and stay active each day. It's easy. It's so easy to stay in shape in America. Like it's you have access to like a lot of calories but you also have your limitations.

You stay with that. Yeah, you have the information. There's also shit pretty much always open. Yeah. And there's gyms everywhere. They have any time fitness over in Australia. We were there four times a week. Yeah.

The Japan one didn't let me in. Tattoes? Tatted it out. Really? Oh, man. He was Waccousa. Yeah, me too. We got a Planet Fitness membership in America?

Oh, that's good. They go, right? Literally, bro. Wait. Too easy. Is it true? You've had the lock alarm go off at Planet Fitness? Oh.

Okay. Okay. We went to a Planet Fitness in... Cleveland. In Cleveland, Ohio. And the bloke there was like... we did he's wrong and we were like Australia he was like no way are you in a school band he was like

wait for sorry we came out that we were in a harco band he was like bro I love God's hate I fucking love God hate and he got so psyched that he realized that we were in speed you knew who were why did he go straight to there the only harco band that he knew was God's hair I don't know

and I'm not saying this is good to here I'm a fitness member if you're watching I'm I'm I'm the judgment free zone is where I I don't judge. That's crazy. What are the odds in that?

So then he goes to his like that we were in a bad and he came back. So he turned the alarm alarm on. He checked that out. He started following us on Instagram and he saw that I posted a story that $100

and I will make the uncle out of. And he's like, he saw that story and he comes out to us. He's like, this is you guys? And then he's like, you only, you only need to

you want to set this off for you guys because like well that would probably the most antisocial thing you could do in this it's my dream to say it you never had it I'm convinced it's not plugged in

no it's not they do it they have to do it they have to do it yeah it's not automatic no I know that it's not kind of like detect screams my grade school growing up had a traffic light in the cafeteria and when we were too loud they would turn it on and if it was green everything was fine yellow was like

hey you're being too loud and it red he would go we had a long alarm in my grades so the technology existed in the 90s like a decibel meter yeah yeah yeah I'm in there sometimes I've never seen me a video idea

set out hard lore sets off the alarm you guys busy I'm never trying I've been between the five months we could get some longs gone we just can't go to my hometown because I go there all done and I know I've never seen it plugged in So what is when you're here and let's let's say there's not catering you know like you got to eat out There's no caterer but I'm saying like on the knock loose tour or something like

Where are you enjoying what are your spots? What are your American spots? Dude this is one that I don't hear people talk about enough beautiful the one style of fast food that is unanimously approved by our band Is Hawaiian barbecue. Oh yeah we don't have that at home. Oh no? Oh no yeah? Yeah, we don't have that on Oh no. Yeah, we had that the other way. No, no. No one of them, like, you know, they're regional. But if we see Hawaiian barbecue, like, on a, on an app or something.

Hawaiian Bros. I've had Hawaiian Bros. That is good. Not a popular answer because it's like, there's no drive-share. Yeah. The only thing is, like, drive-thru is hot anyway when you're in a van, like so many places you can't. I think another one is Panda Express to us. Oh, yeah.

Weird. We did. You know what I had yesterday before I got on the plane? Panda Express. Yeah. Come on. One Beijing beef, brother

Easy to call. Two orange, one terriaki chicken. I'll go triple orange sometimes. Triple? If I've earned it, you know.

And you get the Super Greens. I love Super Greens. Do you order it in the way where you get orange chicken scoop it on? I'll get another orange chicken. If they give you more that way. Or I'll go.

Come on. That's the Chipole method too. Yeah. How can you make it a double? Because if you go into a double if fuck you in the ass. What I ate the most on that, not lose to her was Popeye's

spicy spicy chicken sandwich really because it was buy one get one three two for one seven bucks that's a street all fifty for a fucking chicken sandwich bro and you get two chicken burger right chicken burger right chicken burger she's not a burger chicken bagel it's not ground a burger is ground that's what makes it

I agree do you guys remember that hack that used to uh the to poloile one maybe a turn band yeah yeah give you free to you ruin that yeah thanks a lot you She's cut that

Before we eat this Mountiful meal Could you guys tell me? Collectively or separately Because, you know, I haven't been out front A long time. Things may have changed. What are the top five Australian snacks of all time? You're going to the store. What are you grabbing?

Snacks. Snacks? Team Tams? Golden gay time. Yeah. Golden gay time. This collect. I'm going to agree with you with all of this. What are you going to say? Throw one out.

No, no, no, this is it. I'm agreeing one now. What is it, Timton? Timton. Tim Tim. I never have them. Really? Oh, what?

It's a rectangular chocolate biscuit covered with a chocolate cream in the middle of it. It's a wafer. You have it? You can get them at World Market or something. They are. They are. Sugar wafers? So it's like a chocolate wafer covered in chocolate,

but there's all different kinds. I like the mint one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are... Aaron Osborne's favorite is the double one. Just the bigger one. Yeah, yeah. They are...

You will love them. Because they have either... The double kind of. They have almost a coffee... Kind of. Like a tiramisu? Kind of, yes. Look at this.

They're in a multi-ed-that shot. He's torching it. Throw up, give him some horns, just a half-melt. Woo! Buddy. All right, let me hit you with this. Because I had this written down.

So Tim-Tam Golden Gate Time. I was going to ask. while you're thinking of the others between the three Maxibon Golden Gay Time or a Magnum What's your ice cream? I'm going Maxibon

Maxibon is unbelievable That one's done I think it's gay time for me I've had a gay time I'm all about it Gaytime's fucking Have you had a Maxibon? It's like half

the like crunchy chocolate kind of guy And then half a waffin A softened Ice cream sandwich Yeah And they've got different Flavors of all these as well

And then at a gay Daytime for those at home is like a honeycomb kind of ice cream covered in chocolate and little like biscuit pieces. It's fucking insane. It's so good. What's your answer? Everything that's been sets if I agree with. Oh, out of those three.

Yeah. I'm only going to say gay time and it's just purely because it's a little bit less than the calorie than maximum. I'm not always going to maximum. But Maximon is fire. Yeah. And Magnum is awesome. You have another brand at home that's called Connoisseur.

Connoisseur ice cream is better than the Magnum valve. Love this. It's like gourmet. See? Two different. It's a little ice cream. So we got Tim Tams, gate time.

Tams. Tso's Zero. Yeah, Solo. Do Solo Zero. It's like a bitter lemon drink, zero calories. Hopswell and soda. Yeah. And the zero sugar wine is as good as, if not better, than the full sugar one.

So that's nice. I love that when that happens. Yep. Are you guys? Yeah. I am, yeah. You diet soda guy? Yeah.

Some. I'm a water guy, bro. Yeah. Yeah. You got to get into. I'm a white monster go-go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you there.

The fucking Arnold Palmer one? The Arnold Palmer one, the lemonade one? We'll come over. I don't know. I haven't had it yet. I don't think they got that in Australia. It's like an energy lemonade thing. I haven't had it. It's fuck.

I need this. I would love to try something real soon. Sugar free? Yeah. Oh, I need this. Yeah. I'm going to say back to the top five. Yeah.

Barbecue shapes. Yeah. Or any shapes. Barbecue is a sheep. Shapes. Yeah. They're a little, freaking crimpy. I guess you'd say they're like combos.

Kind of like our version of combos. They're really good. Lunch is up, boys. Oh, thank you so much. So look at that. Nikki, what is this? I'm gonna need a pack of a crystal. We just have fried potatoes with like a seaweed salt,

a cabbage salad, homemade dressing, and I'm going to make a couple of our other sandwiches for you guys, stretch. Oh, man. You are a legend. Thank you. Thank you so much.

I asked the question about, I asked what, about the Asian demographic because growing up, bro, go to McDonald's, like the only people ordering fillet fish are Asian people is the kind of menu item that I'll go in there with my grandma and she like, eat the filet of fish, it's brain food, it's good for your eyesight, it's got fish in it. You know, that's like an Asian mentality kind of thing. So your eyesight is going to be, you're not going to need those contacts.

I'm taking the contacts out of this. Thank you. Are we eating in here? You want us eating here, right? Okay, no problem. Dig in, dude. Yeah, let's try. It's amazing. Joshy.

Thank you, brother. I think there's thwarts right in front again. Okay. Oh, sick. Thanks. There should be a much of nap. It's right on big. You got them crystal packets for brother?

Steven? Take the first bite. Oh. Do it it? What? I don't want to see Jim's reaction. Oh, that's a bite. Woo.

Damn me happy. Is that approved? Is it a Hickday? Demi like you? Who are the other kind of contemporary Australian bands that are touring internationally right now that you're psyched about? Secret World. Dennis plays another name called Secret World, kind of part-time because it's always with us. But never got to play the bonus fest.

Yeah, I saw that announcement where he was like, Speed, aka Secret World, is playing. Secret World is like mostly their other band. Dennis is the amazing guitarist. It's part of it. But his face is right in the front of it, so it looks like it's his band. And he's also got a big person now. but it's the brains behind it at Josh who plays in a man called trophy eyes Pondy who plays in the band called Downside Mato who runs last ride records

they all playing a bunch of other bands as well and yeah they're coming over here for the first time which we're all very personally stoked about because like we want to see them do well as well you're playing with it Dennis I'll go on sick yeah what day of furnace fest you play well Friday I'll be there Sunday yeah I'll be there Sunday Perfect. Primitive Blast is the other big one. Oh, yeah.

Our brothers from Sydney. They've come over here a handful of time. I've got to record them, you know. Blind girls. Blind girls are doing American a whole bunch. Another terminal sleep, who did that tour with us. Yep. The homies.

Time ends. We played with in Adelaide. Very heavy. Very sick. I'm sorry? He's just shouting on the show. Sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry.

The chain, have an album that just got announced last week was coming out on Triple B. Oh, nice. Yeah, that's right. And last five. I and mine, too, have done stuff before with FlatSpot. About to put their next record out with FlatSpot as well. Anything here before, like you guys said?

Aguolo just put out a new song. Yes, he did. So, Colin. I only played on the LP, the first LP. Do you know, I'm sure you do, where Aguiloh comes from, what the name is? You guys all know this? I have initials. It's just his initials.

Aaron, Gordon. Lebbett Lewis Osborne Whatever it is, I'm sorry, Aaron Isn't that crazy? Yeah, it's genius What's crazy is that The full potato is better than the fry 100%

Yeah This is fucking We've been wasting our time for years Yeah, it was delicious Thank you so much Yeah, whatever you've done his seasoning wise is fucking So we put

Citric acid on them Because it's like when you eat tortilla chips That kind of tastes like lime And that's that thing that keeps you Keep going back for it Yeah Like the same thing you get on sour candy But I was eating a bag of tortilla chips one day

And I was like I can't believe how good these are in sauce You're a fucking drug chemist Let's go He's a scientist It's genius We're a chemist Too good That's fucking awesome

There's a wizard He's taking advantage of my senses And we keep eating it What was the first speed tour Tour? Tour tour Yeah, tour tour Was in 2020

two just after this time in theory we toured Australia for the first time. How did that go? Amazing. So that first tour was already amazing? It was speed and AWOL. Because we speed played six shows before COVID and they were just like cool small shows and then after COVID it was immediately different. Yeah. I mean it was already it was already amazing going into COVID like I'm talking like we play the first show we played was 180 people sold out in his menu and that was like holy fuck. And that's all that is already insane. Being a first show.

It was amazing. No, second show is the fucking terror. The open for terror. Perfect. It was terror, primitive blast. There was speed, printed Blast, relentless, malevolence, terror. We hope it was amazing. But yeah, that was the first thing we did.

The other reason why is because, like, because as I said, the scene was kind of really here to miss in a lot of pockets, like, a hardcore tour, like wasn't super, super fully viable in Australia. Interesting. But yeah, the first one we did was with AWOL for our EP. the Gangle Speed EP tool. So that, you guys kind of like,

the modern way of introducing and releasing a discography of like demo, single, single, single, single, single, single, single, make them beg for the LP. You really nailed it. I think you timed the way that you put your music out perfectly. Was that intentionally? And can you tell me about just like spacing those things out?

We honestly never like knew if we would make it to do an LP. Like, we didn't know what the band was going to be. Like, we didn't know what we had an LP in us. Like, we honestly didn't really know anything. And so we said really early on that everything that we ever put out, we were going to treat like it would be like the big, like, piece of work that our band would be known by, you know what I mean?

So when we did the EP, it was like six tracks in 2022. We were like, all right, let's just throw everything at this. And it may be the only thing we ever do. Like, this might be the last record. And then once we did that, that kind of coincided with when we did that first tour and when we did Sound Fury the first time. And that obviously just opened up like another chapter for the band. Totally.

So I'm like, fuck, all right, well, we've got to do an LP now because that will just continue to like give us more experience. And then we can go to Europe, we can go to Asia. We can do these things. And like, we've just kind of tried to use the music as like a vehicle to be able to go around and experience different pop, it's a hardcore. It took a while to do that. It's kind of the key.

Yeah, it is the key. the momentum and the vehicle of the band to go places. For sure. And meet people. That's the main thing. It's the biggest thing. But throughout your connections, you started with last ride records. FlatSpot quickly came after.

After that Soundfury, you're getting label offer after label offer. You stick with Last Ride and FlatSpot. How is those two relationships grown since 2019? Just like our relationship with LODD Sound World of Canada who TMs us in Australia. Or ROTZ. It books us the back of the home. Rutsi who films us.

And all our friends that come with us for this journey, it's the best thing ever. You have the best moments, the worst moments, and everything in between in your life with these friends

that you've already known for 15, 20 years. And now, we never expected to do this. We never expected to be in America having these experiences together. But we're here doing it. We never needed it

to validate our relationships or our experiences, but we're doing it. together now and it's just like such a fucking bonus. It's just like literally Elliot, my first friend in high school, he owns the Camillion Studios, he's recorded every single thing that Speed's ever done

and recorded everything that all our, most of our projects have always ever done since we first picked up a guitar in our lives. And he stepped foot in LA for the first time four days ago whatever it was and I'm like Pete finally here and he's going to mix us at Coachella. Like, it's just That's his first American

We went through Puebing together, bro. We were figuring shit. Yeah. Yeah. And he's the best. You know, it's just like that is worth more than any, any other thing. It's just for us selfishly it's like, we know in our lifetimes that we fucking, we've always known that our friend was so fucking talented and so capable at the level that we see people that we look up to.

It's just that Australia's just far away and just hand out the spotlight. And I always believe this. It's like, they have it too, but who cares if we never happens. And it's fucking happening. So in your mind, the gang club speed exceeds the five people on stage. 100% that's why movies are just a lot of friends in that like it's just love that 100% it's just a and that's the other thing is that we don't it's not that special who we are we our friends at home are like a product of it's just this whole thing each other products of each other and on the label

side as well like you were saying we we had this crossroads where like you know there there was other people that wanted to get involved in like you know more resources and x y and z and we had a conversation between us all and we were like yeah but if we stay doing this shit with Maddo with Last Ride we stay to be Ricky at Flatspot like all that's going to do is just bring more attention to those labels

all of our friends are on those labels as well like there's so much stuff going on that we think people don't know about and by us like being able to stay part of that and help that kind of bring more attention to it then all that does is help everybody else and so now like our last ride at the moment in Australia

is similar to like a resist records like fast growing up which you know, had Parkway Drive and I could the problem with in Cup PATH and all these bands that like, for us growing up were the bands that we looked up to and that's how Madball terror and everything. Yeah. So us

trying to use whatever kind of attention or like leverage that we have as a band to be able to empower those people. Like that's that's the name of the game for us at this point. I'll say this way like at least in our perspective in the way we feel about it, like

being able to take a win and be on a journey with your fucking friends and have accomplishments that you share together is worth more than any kind of fucking big-ass paycheck or not like clout nod from some label or being on a certain roster or anything else like being even if if it means that we don't get to like be on nightliners for the rest of our life and be this crazy big sensation like it's never even been the goal but if we even got like two steps that way but it was all without compromising any of our values and bringing our friends with us and being able to share it together, like, that is the most fulfilling experience.

Totally. You know what I'm saying? Like, being able to share it with your fucking family that you've known. So that's why we've made all these decisions of the way we have. And I see some, like, bands who, like, go through shit with their careers in the end and they're not homies anymore. We see, like, bands and labels who fall out or people who work together at this level, and they're not even friends. And I'm like, what the fuck is the point? What is the point?

What is the point? Like, you guys know this? Like, you guys are doing this together as homies. Like, you weren't these podcasters who got put together and made this supergroup. Like, you guys have, the reason why Heart Law works is good you guys have the chemistry. You're fucking awesome. You know, you know, you know, it's the same thing. And that's what's so special about it?

Like, also, in hardcore, can't fucking fake it. Yeah. That's not, like, the only people that can do this are the people who have been fucking living in it for, like, this long. And that's why, like, the criticism to, like, you guys playing Coachella of people being like, is this what we want hardcore to be? It's not what hardcore will be. Exactly. There's people in the moment experiencing this, and if they're worthy, they will stick around, you know?

If they're ready to live it, they'll stick around. But if it's not them, they'll get beat up at some show and they'll never come back. The vetting process will take care of itself. The better process, exactly. We're in this weird time now where everything is sensationalized and, you know, like, hardcore's having this moment and whatever, it's fine. For us at least, it's like, we never... It's not a moment. Yeah.

Yeah, right. We never asked to try or try to do these things, but we have the opportunity to do. So we're just going to try and, I'm not going to fucking turn it down. I'm not going to say no to play Coachella. Fuck, what's wrong with you? And if you wouldn't say, no, why? Because you're too proud. Like, what the fuck?

Like, we don't take those decisions on, like, thinking about how it's going to be, like, adjudicated by a bunch of people. Nor should you? Have a different relationship with this music with us. You know, like, yes, I'll play Coachella, but I'm still going to be fucking driving around listening to death threat, like, tearing up at how much I like it. That's the sickest, the thing up on it.

You know what I mean? Like, you part. You can't tell me that I'm not hardcore because I fucking care about it. Even you do. And you're playing the Vegas fucking VFW the next day. Exactly. I was just going to say you guys would play a basement show tonight if that's what was going on. Dude, I mean...

You're playing a VFW. You're playing the most DIY thing possibly. We're still in our fucking band group chat messaging each other about new vans and new demos that drop. And like... Beautiful. We also tapped into this shit because we love it so much. Steak sandwich? What are we got here, Nicky?

Steak sandwich. It's got a bunch of cream on it that bones not. I'm good on it. I'm good on it. I'm going to sour cream means the same, the same faith. Sour cream means more. And this? Yes.

That's Chino. You like that? Chino? Yeah. No, this is steak. Here, I'll take one by two. Did you have mayo in it? It does.

Do you want to go to the chino? You want to go to the taste? Thanks, brother. For mayo restaurant. What are you going to do? It's okay. Have a look. The world is.

I understand. We're making sandwiches. I get it. Is this chino? Yeah. Always fired up. When have you ever see the tuna sandwich that look like this look at that flesh look at that

tuna flesh that looks great now that is from your fish mongering experience that looks like pretty good tuna fish I would say Albuquer yes yeah yeah it's Albuquer yeah it's all the core sure I was gonna say never you know it's a look at ourselves we're getting in like evil when we can we'll get like San Francisco Oregon like a little fresh Albuquer Out of season, we'll get it from elsewhere in the world, usually like VV. But, yeah, it's beautiful fish. Let me try the stinks.

Yeah, you got to get into it. You look emotional. It's delicious. The fish is one thing, but the bread. Yeah. The way that you've treated it to the bun, not this. Pardon this interruption. It's so important.

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All right. This was a beautiful. Thank you for having this. This is great. Awesome food. You're shooting food shots like it's a... He's good. He's good, yeah.

Do we live for this shit? I've watched some YouTube. Yeah. Can I have Mark Waze? Can you describe your... Yeah, give me your best Mark Wings. What's your YouTube? What's your YouTube?

Oh, wow. On page, what type? Mark Wienes. Do you know Mark Wings? No. Oh my God. Oh wow. Okay, people ask us if they're like,

what's one celebrity that people would love to meet? And I always give the collective answer. If we, not all of us care about celebrities. If there was one that we all would be stuck to meet, it's Mark Wienz. I'll send you some shit. I'll send you some shit. I'll send you some here. He's like, I think he's American born, but he's grown up all over the place.

He's like a real, like, international school type dude. One of the biggest food bloggers. He has, like, super. Christian vibes though I'm not sure if he is religious but he's like a Ned Flanders type character and nobody loves food more than this guy like he goes all over the world like and just tries fucking everything and every time he takes a bite of the food he looks like he's coming in his pants like every single I saw that in your eyes a little bit I saw something coming I was experiencing

he's fucking awesome but yeah Mark Wains price some bodybuilding shit Probably some 197 set. Plenty hardcore. And then like video games. Beautiful. What video games do you play? Just started playing a game for what, Frac Punk? It's like a 5V5 like CS means a baller.

Is there like powers and shit? Yeah, yeah. Actually, that's probably another big passion of speed is gaming. Really? For four members of speed. So speed all, we all just got steam decks except for Josh. Oh, fuck yeah. We all got steam decks, but...

I can't get one. Why? I'm banned for life from Steam, unfortunately. Really? Yeah, IP ban, so I just can't have the console. Straight up. Lord, holy shit, what would you do? Stream sniping.

Are you serious? Yeah, you know, Ninja? You stream sniping? You streamed ninja? IP ban for life. I can't have, I tried to get it. It's not even on the Steam store. What, Ninja?

What, what was he playing? Was it by Fortnite? Oh. Yeah, you're not banned from the Epic store, though. I can't use the console. You can't use the console. I've tried. Guys, this is better if we don't pick.

it apart too much because I can't. Because I know that's not... It makes me emotional to think about. Like, I have to fucking sit there while they're on their fucking things. I can get you. I can get you. I'll get you. We'll figure something out. There's also the ROG one. Yeah, the AIS one.

The AISC one. There's other... That's good tonight. There's non-Steem client options now, John. That's crazy. That's awesome. Did you fuck him up in the stream? Yeah, dude. I mean, he quit? He quit? He reached him. Really?

He had the clip? He quit? He had the clip? No fucking way. I'll send it. You set it to the kill by 30 seconds from ours? Have you seen now? All right, cool. No, it was Linkabakh Numb. I was not saying I was going to do Linkin Puff behind it, actually.

Dude, that's incredible. Dude, that rules. What games we're playing on the deck? Ghost of Zishima. Yeah. You psyched for the next one? Ghost of Yoki? Yeah.

Or what is it? Yeah, I saw it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Steam deck? Oh, yeah.

Oh, man. I know you've got a rig. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. It's my greatest passion now I don't know where You can't believe it You can't build a PC

You gotta build a PC He tried to get me to do it for years And I was like dude I got a PlayStation What do I need that for? I was wrong I was wrong Well I love this team that because I don't I don't like to sit down and be stuck

Like I like Yeah I want to be I'll be there in my bed Or I want to be on my couch Or I want to be in the car I want to be like I'm saying

I can't post up. You think that, and then you get a Herman Miller Airon chair, and things changed. All right. Things change, Jim. I do have, I have mine docked, and I play it on my TV. Oh, really? Yeah, with just a PlayStation controller, it's awesome.

I'm very open to it. We've got to play something. Absolutely. Are you good at stuff? I'll play Fortnite. No, I'm not good. Sorry, sorry, I know you assume because... No, I don't assume it.

I don't know. I thought Fletchwater was good at games, and I whipped them and everything. I really not. Aaron is good there. Okay, Aaron is good. Yeah, my brother.

I'm not, I'm not there. We've played a lot of Apex Legends. We played Fortnite. PubG. PubG. I can play. A lot of PubG.

I like PubG. PubG got me through fucking COVID. Yeah. Did it? Yeah, that was awesome. I played a lot of PubG in COVID, too. Yeah.

All right. Beautiful. Well, what do you say we go look at some records? Let's get it. All right. Thank you for having us, Nicky. Thank you,

Nicky. Little Fish. Echo Park. Here we go. Michelin Star Sandwich. With fishing it. All right, we're here at Going Underground Records in Little Tokyo, right next to Millet Crate, my favorite dessert. Our favorite dessert.

But before we eat that, we're going to go in and check out some records and meet Adam, the owner. Let's go in. Now, Stephen, when you walk in a record store and the first thing you see is Terrorizer Jesus and Deaside Jesus, you're in the right place. You're okay. You got an old-ass kill-uncle poster? something Jim was just telling me. He said, speed is collectively

the least vintage shirt and record band. And my theory was is that because it's more rare slash expensive to get in Australia. I would... That might play a role. I also think that we as human beings are just so...

I don't know how to say this, but we are not built to hold on things for a long time. You're not a materialistic guy. You just, yeah. And more about the memory. I think that we've also, all the things that we wear, I think that like,

and listen to do it like things that our friends make and stuff. I don't know. Let's see if we can't find some friends' stuff. Yes. That would be nice. Let's see what we got. Sydney royalty.

No pun intended, actually. And if you like, if you know royal headache, you should check out antenna. It's the singer's new band. It's amazing. In the vein. of and they've got a new record

that's coming out on last right records. Now, Jim, even though you're not a collector, what is better than walking into a record store and finding your own band's record in another country? Isn't that nice?

It's a nice. It's not surprised when it does happen. That's finally. Should I be surprised today? That's all that. I'm saying, the Holy Trinity. You got a copy of the one. I don't have a copy of this.

Oh, really? Yeah. They sold out of speed records. Oh, come on. Really? No, we really did. We moved. We restocked like, I don't know.

Well, did they just move? Yeah. You did it. Wow. Sold out. Beautiful. Thank you. Thank you.

Beautiful. So, since we can't hold it in my hands, tell me about only one mode. Your debut LP, it takes you damn near five years put together essentially with some... The culmination of five years. The culmination of five years work.

Tell me about putting it together, the response, the mindset going in, the influences. We didn't think that we would ever get there. And I know that sounds cliche, but we didn't see beyond the 7-inch. We really didn't. So, with this year, we were just trying to make this

the best possible thing that we could possibly offer. I'm gonna say this comes from confidence or lack of it like I just we didn't think that we had the skills to write something a body of work that long it's a lot it's a lot of work it is and I'm really stuck with the result I'm happy with every single element having said that moving on like now where we're at like there's a whole new set of aspirations that we have that we've since we've learned from that like I want to I want to achieve just personally Headline Coachella? Yeah, man. Where do you go from here, musically? You know, like, what do you think the evolution of speed? It's such a difficult question, right? The biggest, I think the...

The biggest personal kind of aspiration that we have right now is, beyond anything, is achieving a little bit more identity in the sound. Because the speed is the product of all the things that we've ever loved. Totally. And I think the influences are so obvious. however and and and when right we wrote all these songs as well was just kind of we especially when we began we thought we'd just be playing to our friends like really and uh now that we're at this position where that's just so much potential just fucking doing so many

things beyond we ever thought we would totally it's like all everything we've done as a band i bought we it's just a bonus so far but as an artist is like can we actually find a little bit more of a distinct sound, especially as an Australian band. We spent a whole lives looking up to American stuff all the time, you know. It's not abroad, so it's like, can we find a little bit more identity? What is Australian hardball?

Yeah. You want to answer that question anytime somebody turns your record on. And we've always said that it comes down to the culture. It's a cultural thing. It's like an attitude thing, which we're really proud of. But, yeah. It's a hard thing to answer.

The second LP, is the hardest one is the hardest one the soft because it's you got it you got to evolve without forsaking all the aspects that people love about you while not like getting tired of them we yeah creatively well that we the first thing we do when we got up to find after this trip next week is go to studio fuck yeah we're doing a oh we're doing a video recording for song so we'll see how that comes out so it's come yeah wow they're written already 90% okay yeah what can you Can you describe a little bit?

I think it's everything I think it's everything that speed has had but just dialed up. Okay. And I know I said that about the LP2, but I think that's all you ever need to do is keep dialing it up and then you giving the people what they want is step one, exceeding their expectations of step two. Ooh, well put. Yeah, I don't know, it's a...

And you've done it every time. Thank you. You've continually turned the dial. the exceedometer goes up every time. Thank you. Thank you. Let's see if we can find something you might want. What do you got here?

Josh. The original Pain of Truth pressing with the very, very low-res cover. Oh, is it? Oh, wow. Look at that. That ain't even a PNG, huh? Ridge, what happened? Court, they said, uh, nerds in Japan.

And I was like, is it just me? Or is that a little blur? This is a day's record, right? Lumpy, we're going to have to find out of the lore on what happened there. That looks terrible. To me it looks way cooler that way I agree But it's, yeah, there's a thing that's

I think about it Yeah, I agree There's a story there Yeah, exactly If there's a first press We got Tade LP The same thing happened Sent it off to

I mocked it up on an app On my phone Dope Sent it to the designer I think that's probably What happened Oh yeah, Sydney hardcore Kings of Punk

Masters of Hardcore Rapid Die This is featuring Members of Primal Slast, singing and the guitarist The two masterminds in that band

this is unequivocally Sydney shit so this LP just came out last month fucking awesome if you love anything punk punk with a little bit hardcore perfect this is a record we grew up on

this is the singer of Parkway Drive's brother is in this band they played Sound of Fury 08 or something I think this record came out in like 2007 the production on it is insane complex studios you get the compressor and you go straight to the top

that's how you get is it allowed the brick wall yeah it's just everything is just yeah nice sounds like no warning and shit if you didn't

what other what other Australian hardcore can we find in here this man broke up so maybe we won't do that for for naughty reasons or for good reasons

they fell out oh there you go what do you got drop many suckers but it's still awesome it's the same songs pretty much right

yeah His favorite is Ball Destruction. You're a ball destruction, man? I love his voice because he's a kid. He's so young. You know what I mean? So much youth. Matt Ball!

That's the sickest thing of all. Oh, here we go. I think we know these guys. Oh. That's the Redux? I think we know that. That's the Redux. Yep.

Dope record. Thanks, man. We leaked it ourselves because ice cream took a long time to press it. What? Maybe that first thing I saw was a fucking rapidite record. That's awesome. Yeah, that's crazy. One with the underdogs

This is HC Hall of Fame Yeah Undeniable One of the greats That's top 100 Oh yeah Easy Yeah

Some might say Some might say It's top 100 On a list You might need a hear Yeah Before you die Just see

But bupub Beast This would be one of Collectively Speed's favorite Modern Huckle bands This everything That's been done by this band

And this record Is fucking amazing And wait Did you have a hand in this My brother dude brother-ed-brother engineered it and mixed it, I believe. Who produced it or wrote the help write the songs? My brother, yeah.

I mean, I think it's all Josiah and my brother. This is a fucking masterpiece. Everything they've done is amazing. Dude, that is weird. Yeah. And is that the last one? There's that anything sense? They did it.

Fucking. Craig. Two songs after or something, but that's all. Craig that was in like. Do you have in Named? In your mind. Look at that. Yeah, I saw with that.

There you go. What's in my mind? Pre-killing time, there was raw deal. Same exact band. Different name. Same songs. Still good. You have, Jim, in your mind.

What's in my mind? A favorite tour that speed has done yet. Bro, there's so many different... Maybe a favorite Australian tour and a favorite international tour. Where you really thought, like, we fucking did it, guys. When we played in Bangkok for the first time, and that whole Southeast Asia trip,

this is the start of 20. Whispers? Yeah, bro. What a band. Whispers. Actually, we should try and find this. Yes, this is sick. This is...

Some would say the 33rd best 1980s punk band of all time. The Southeast Asian tour. When we started speed, we were like, we weren't to it, but we will go south-east Asia. And it was, that was just... That's another region. Like, Southeast Asia, Australia is almost like Europe to UK. Yeah, it's right there. Yeah.

we just have so many friends there and obviously like spiritually like more than half of us are from there and and just see like the scene inside of Asia just just explode with so much so many great bands so much more swag like there was a period of time up until

just before COVID where there are some of the things were a little bit behind and now it's they're a hand they're five year ahead yeah they're advanced there's so many fucking great bands from there so yeah I think South of Asia's like been amazing but also bro like every single trip has been different like knock loose full US tour like seven of us in a van Australian just literally living out of

motels and gas stations for seven weeks like in opening right us and Josh from last question oh cool yeah yeah yeah it was the six of us plus him and it was just it was just crazy yeah oh RIP our existence from a shout out of our home from Stockholm was A subpoena. Oh, I saw that one before, yeah. Dope band. Some would say the 30 seconds best national needs a hardcore band all time.

It's a very eclectic mix in here. There is. There's a great store. My wallet is screaming. You can't. Josh, do you have a favorite tour or something? Favorite speed tour? Or a show that you played

where you got offstage and just thought, I think we did it. We did our first bus tour. in Europe at the end of, or towards the end of last year. And it was us, End it, Whispers, Life's Question, day by day we're on a leg of it, penetration of power on a leg of it.

And it was Whisper's first time in Europe, and a lot of them meeting, like, a lot of them meeting, like, all of these bands for the first time. And the vibe was so fucking sick, dude. Everybody was just hanging out constantly, like, there was like a group of people, like a bunch of life's question,

and some of the, the end of guys and like Kane would like go off skating and like some of us would go to the gym some of us would go like explore the city or whatever every day was just like a couple of different cruiser people just going and hanging out and just enjoying shit and the videos from that tour i remember being like i got a question to you guys i don't know what i mean like yeah two american bands last question had meg from big cheese and turn style and joe from uh from pest control filling in for a bit. So like you had British people, you had Australians, you had Americans, you had

tied. Meeting like Demines. Yeah, it was awesome, dude. What? What's the best episode you've ever done? Best episode we've ever done? Like, your favorite. It's the Vinnie Stigma. It's the, I mean, the stigma one when we wrapped, so for a little context, the stigma one was

48 hours after I tried to eat 200 McNuggets and 24 hours after I played like a brutal show. And then eight hours after we filmed the Mike Dijon thing and the broken thing back to back to back to back. It was all one day. That's insane.

So that going as well as it did, that was one where camera shut off and we hooked. Yeah, it was just like we did something. Whatever we just did rocks. And it's the kind of what we all, our other like another favorite is the Brian one in Louisville, which is essentially

what we're doing with you guys. That's what we wanted this to be. This is what we want of the show. Thank you. Yeah. Well, when Wispers come here in July or when they come here in May and if you have the chance and you finally have Wispers and OLE on this show you will have your best episode I'm telling you. You will

have the best podcast chat whatever it is with OLE and the boy from Wispers on this. I'm obsessed with them. He's been waving for it. Bro, they are so encyclopedic and crazy about hardcore, metalcore, everything to do with it. And

they have the most insane personalities that are the best fucking people. that you cannot not fall in love with them. You guys would have the best chance. I already love them. They sent in an acceptance for best guest vocal part in our award thing last year. And just watching that, it was like,

I think I'm in love with all. When we went to Bangkok, I mean, a bunch of, you guys had already met a lot of them before, but they met us at our hotel, took us cross-road with Japanese hop-hop place. We ate a ton of food, and then we went to a wee cafe and just took it over and sat down

and just started playing each other our favorite hardcore videos. Ah, see? So we're showing them like... Tell you all this time. We tell you there's episodes you can be... Dude. We're showing them like famous videos within our friendship circle of people just getting decimated. Yeah, yeah. Like shows in Australia.

And then they're like, all right, we'll check this one out in Bangkok. Here's Stephen from Kickback beating someone up with a ladder. Oh! And we just went back and forth for like three hours or something. while everybody else in the joint was just like, perfect, we were just talking. You think, from the outside,

you just think, like, culturally, we're all so different. Yeah. We're not, brother. We're the fucking same. That's why this thing is so fucking sick, because it makes the world so much smaller. It's like, I can travel literally to the other opposite side and meet people.

I don't know, this is such a trope in every hardcore conversation about how good it is, but it is, I think it's so necessary when the world feels so fucking divided. It's like, we have so many similarities, and there are so many small. things which are so meaningful to us, we can all get along. You know what I mean?

You'll find some commonality. It's just it makes me more passionate about this shit. It almost makes the music secondary. All to sure. But that's what drives me crazy about like hardcore and hardcore crime. Yeah. Like using your time in public to talk shit

about other hardcore bands when like we're here for the same reason. There's greater enemies out there. There's actual musical evil in this world. Literally you're Right, that we must defeat. And so we got to work together to do that. Obviously, the tribalism is a part of it, and you've got to protect some stuff,

and it's part of the culture, too. You have to. And I respect that. I totally respect that. But there is definitely a higher proportion of bullshit, I feel, that's spoken. 100%. Probably unnecessary. Yeah.

And that's fine. So we're winding down here. So I got a very important question for each of you individually. And I kind of want two answers. Yeah. I want to know your top four hardcore records of all time, period. And top four

Australian hardcore records of all time. Oh, shit. Top four all time. That's an easy one. Train Yard Blues. Wow. Age of Quarral. Stay cold.

And I guess another kind of more millennial take as well. The sleeping eye and edge. Oh, wow. Yeah. They're the best riffs ever written to me. Okay. All respectable.

Great answer. And then Australian? Mind snare, hang choke, wrist, slit is fucking crazy. They're the like four fathers of Australian, modern Australian. They're in toe to toe in that ball and a... Bulldoze, board a banger. That's a meme, that's an Australian harkleman. That's a man.

Dude, we have a friend who has a kshksh tattoo. No way, how do you spell it? K-C-H, K-S-H. K-S-H. What is that? Howsy. Howsy, yeah. Really?

With a bulldozer. I had no idea. That's fucking awesome. So yeah, what? Mind snare. Miles away consequences. Yeah. They got over here.

They did. Yeah, yeah. They were Australia's bridge nine bands. Got you. They were out Bridge Nine men. That's for sure. That's for sure. Yeah.

Fuck, man, we listened to it the other day. Carpathian, nothing to lose. Yeah. It's Australian-old American names. Is that pre or post-crispy cream? Sure. That's mid- Krispy cream. That is Krispy cream.

That is Krispy cream. You're a good. The Krispy Kram shirt was in celebration of that record. And then one that I think, I know we're definitely on Jam's list, but maybe on yours as well, Dennis, is Parkway Drive Killing with us while. That was the entry point to, like, music that you can mosh to for us.

And that got you, that's a domino to hear. Yeah, you know, the 50 Lines LP that I picked up before, like they would take bands like that on tour or miles away or, you know, all these other hardcore bands at the time. And so you'd go to the metalcore show and then you'd hear power chords instead, and someone yelling instead of fucking, you know. Yeah.

And we just fell in love with that, like, even more, I think. Beautiful. It's a relief. And that was, well, that's, yeah. Well, dude, the thing for me, right, I didn't even necessarily love metalcore when I first heard it. And then Elliot showed me this thing called Jungle Fever, who sound like fucking righteous jams or something.

And I was like, oh, that's the music that I like. Crazy name. Yeah, wow. Yeah, I know. Well, yeah, you probably wouldn't do it anymore. No. Danance. Me?

Yep. Matt will send it off. Great answer. I want to say, 10 hundred dogs. Great answer. It's like, you know,

like people will be like, yeah, no, it's deserving. But I'm going to say to one of the other dogs. Death threat, peace and security. And I have a luck

of a millennium answer as all. It's King Knight. Oh, wow. Yeah. Scared to death? Wow. Great answer. Yeah.

That's a modern class. Yeah. I want to clown for that, but fucking. Fuck people. That's that. Remember that when Brandon Who? Oh, for saying that?

Yeah, I mean, what the fuck is? These motherfuckers. They're wrong, and scared to death is a record where... It takes time to be timeless, you know? And now that that's been out for 12 years, it's gone from like modern classic to like actual, just classic. Some shit's undeniable, but sometimes music is just that good. What's good for? What about Australia?

I'm gonna say 50 lines, no way to run. Okay. Because that's a CD that got me, like, CD got me into like, into like where we are now. Sure. Parkway Drive. Killing with a smile. Okay.

Outsiders code. Oh, that's a fucking man. So like exiled from... Yeah, exiled. Yeah, yeah. What a record. They're like Australia's dying breed I've always described.

They'd been around if it was only the dude doing backup scenes. Yeah, it sounds like the singer buying breed. It's awesome. Um, and miles away. Costquit says. There you go.

Beautiful. All right, Jim. I'm so hard with like picking ones and they're going to not be representative of... Well, it's only going to be on the internet forever. Yeah, I know, I know. Set it off. This is going to, this might be one that it's... The things we carry.

Oh yeah, of course. Have Heart to me, when I discovered Have Heart, it was the... I worked at a Yucena to try and get, to try and just get on a show. And the first tour that came around was the final Half Hard Tour in Australia. Oh, wow. And the band at the time, we got to... open it and it fully, it was the first time I'd ever print it merch for a show. This is the first time.

It was like every kid from high school came to the show. And it also, my dad became a, used to working IT and he became a life coach just doing seminars for his friends. And it was full PMA to me and shit, but I was listening to like email shit and that. And it was the first time where like this hardcore thing intersected with like the values my family were preaching. You know what I'm saying? So have heart just like changed my life.

And then there's so many records to pick out But I'm going to say Big Kiss could not Because Big Kissed a night to me Is the perfect intersection Between straight the ass beat of music And just catchy chorus Catchy chorus is intelligent songwriting

It's insane Melody It's got it all It's heart filled like It's swagged out Yeah And then Maybe Perseverance

Because as well that was like hardcore before I realized it was hardcore. You know what I mean? I didn't like, it was that and um throw down with the two bams that were on this metal seat compilation that got burned by my relative that taught me guitar when I was 11. And so, yeah, that's a four. And then for Australia, no apology, survival,

um, break even the bright side, Parkway Drive killing with a smile. So that's the one. That seems to be that. That's unanimous. Yeah, but that's also my favorite record of all time. Okay, straight up. Yeah, that's my favorite record of all time.

And I'm going to say, this is not even an album. I'm just going to say Prina's Blast, Animalistic, because that's also probably one of the things I've listened to the most. I'm just proud of them. They've played here a lot, so hopefully they come back. What a lovely day we just had. Yeah, this is a blast. Thank you.

Hardcore music, bringing people together worldwide. Thank you. Oh my God. Thank you, guys, for having us. Thank you. Seriously. Yeah. It's been a fucking dope day.

It's been awesome. Let's do it again in Sydney. You'll do it. And thank you for indulging us, because this is just shit we would have done with it without the camera on, and you've just been able to watch our experience. So I hope you enjoyed it.

Yeah. Very proud of you, boys. Very happy for you boys. Have a good show tonight. Thank you. Enjoy a good show forever because this lives in perpetuity. Perpetuity and the other half of Coachella coming up. Or a few years ago, depending on when you watched it.

Thank you guys for joining us. Thank you all for watching this. This was hard Lord with Speed in LA. We had a lovely day. We love you so much. Bye. Thank you.