HardLore - The Best Breakdowns Ever Vol. 2

Episode Date: May 11, 2023

Colin and Bo present their next batch of respective lists for the best breakdowns ever written in hardcore/metal/punk music. 20 brand new picks each, with zero crossover and zero repeat bands from th...e previous list, enjoy this informative deep dive into the 40 NEXT best breakdowns you've ever heard. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef This episode is brought to you by ATHLETIC GREENS! Try AG1 at athleticgreens.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1. Join WHATNOT with our special little link to get $15 off your first purchase. Get ready for the first ever Hardlore live auction TOMORROW, March 24th at 8:30 PM EST: https://www.whatnot.com/invite/hardlore Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe Check out our merch at https://knotfest.com/store/?view=hard... Find all of our videos at https://knot1.co/3vWXsbx #HardLore   HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER   For sponsorship opportunities, email us! info@hardlorepod.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The playlist containing all of our picks from this episode is in the description. Listener discretion is advised. Hello, welcome. It's Hardlord time. What's up, Bo? You know, Colin, I was thinking, we did the best breakdowns part one. We did. You know?
Starting point is 00:00:42 We did. And it's honestly, like, the playlist is still going to this day, rising up the ranks, universally acclaimed. And at the second we wrapped, we were both like, dude. Yeah. I forgot this. Yeah, exactly. Exactly my point, my friend. I made this.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I looked at like, you know how there's like a timestamp on the notes app if you make a list? Yeah. This is the day after that episode went up. I did this entire list. No shit. And I did mine 30 minutes ago. So this is. I started it after we wrapped.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Right. I did start it. but I only had like a few. I was done, dude. Completely conceptualized and finished that day. But this is part two of Hardlore's official master ranking. This is the master list. Yeah, this is the master list.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Official of this time we did 20 each. 20 each of the best breakdowns ever made, ever recorded, ever spin kicked, ever spun kicked, ever windmill. Let's remind of the criteria that you and I are not individually repeating bands. There may be a band or two on our current list that the other had on the previous list. And also it doesn't necessarily, we call it a breakdown, but it doesn't, it can be an intro. It can be a part. The song doesn't need to build to this moment. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Exactly. You know it when you feel it. That's part of the crazy. It's a feeling. I am not saying a single band I have already said. and I don't think I'm saying a band that Bo has said either. I think, yeah, I think I'm the same. Which, like, that would make it so easy to just come up here and say 10 different hate breed songs every week.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Because that's, I could do top 100 hate breed breakdowns. I said Slayer Ghost of War on the list and it would be very easy to be like, Angel of Death. Yeah, you know. Easy, easy, easy, peasy. But I, you know, we started this, the clip for today off with morbid angel where the slime lives, you know? Yeah. So I figure I'll start with that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:54 The first time that the transition from the first time I heard that back to back. Honestly, this morbid angel before suffocation before dying fetus might have been the band for me where I was like, oh, this is this is the same thing that hardcore bands are doing just from in a different perspective, you know? Really? In a different way. because like the end of, what's the first song on fucking Coven? Rapture? The fucking bambum bum bum, is like,
Starting point is 00:03:31 that's just a hard-ass breakdown. Whether they're approaching it from that perspective or not. But where the slime is straight up like, how well did it fit to that compilation of crowd killing? That we posted. That should almost be the litmus test of like, if either else are like, I don't know about that part.
Starting point is 00:03:49 You play it to that clip and go, okay. Yeah, it completely fits. And bowdom, and how many bands have stolen wee-woo from that since? Yeah, I wonder. Not enough, but also enough. You know what would be a cool, like, just a cool thing to deep dive on one day is like, where did the use of this dissonant chord come from? Or the panic cord.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Like, where did that start? Can we find... I'd love to go back in time and kill that guy. Yeah, right. Can we find the first breakdown? Yeah, it's fucking, it's a... Don't da-da-na-na-na-no-no-no-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-ha. I'm whooping ass, dude.
Starting point is 00:04:34 You kidding me? It's straight up... I mean, it might be that. Yeah, that's the first one. Yeah, I'll kick your ass. How many times did you get that typo-negative meme sent to you of that lady? I'm a, I, I can't even pick up my phone anymore. I don't ever want to see it again.
Starting point is 00:04:57 20 times. How do you not assume I've seen it? That's, dude. It's been up for a month. I got it. I got it. Thank you for sending it to me the first day. But after that, you can assume.
Starting point is 00:05:09 This came today. This is pretty cool. I made a post. Where did I put it? I made a post saying, because I had, I have a world coming down poster. that is the UK version
Starting point is 00:05:24 which came out September 20th in America it came out September 21st no shit so what did I find no kidding a world coming down poster because this record came out
Starting point is 00:05:38 on the same day that I came out of the whom so I figured it belongs in the office somewhere you know very nice so I'm excited about that thanks to whoever sent me the link to somebody
Starting point is 00:05:50 was like this is on Deepop right now. Somebody who listens to the show. So I bought it in 10 seconds. So thanks. What's your first pick? My first pick is, anthrax are not a band that I'm like in love with. I think the weakest of the big four,
Starting point is 00:06:11 which I say respectively. Yeah, I mean, that's still like, you know, it's still, yeah, it's like. Like in the scope of music, you're still better. You're still like bigger and better than almost every. band ever. When I was kind of first getting into more metallic shit in high school, uh-huh. After the punk stuff, somebody gave me among the living. Yeah. And like that intro rocks. It does. The, the, yeah. Yes, dude. Are you about to give it to me? I was going to say
Starting point is 00:06:41 the Indians. Yes, dude. That, that part is. It's insane. It's insane. Dan, do you heard. Let me ask you this. And the war dance part. Have you heard the re-recorded version? What? No, I don't think so. It's fucking insane. They re-recorded?
Starting point is 00:07:00 I think they re-recorded the whole album with the fucking, what's the guy? What's the band? Metal Blade. Metal Blade man. He sings. I'm on Marth. No.
Starting point is 00:07:15 The Viking from Mono. Old fuckers. Oh, Nurgle. No, not Nergel. Oh, Corpsegrind. What's his fucking name? I have no idea. It starts with an A, metal blade, rock music.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Second singer of Anthraxist guy. Oh, they re-recorded it with him. They re-recorded it with this. I think he was John Bush. Without Joey Belladonna. John Bush is his name, I think. Okay. He's coming if I'm wrong, internet.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I mean, it's like the fucking re-recorded Indians breakdown is insane. It's also, it's one of those, like, ethically. Yes. It's one of those songs where it's like, it's so funny that like they really meant well. Yeah. It's really a song. It's kind of like,
Starting point is 00:07:59 Run to the Hills. It's like a song talking about how. Yeah, yeah. Like Warden's, come on, right guys? Yeah. And then Joey Belladonna's wearing a fucking headdress and like jumping. It's just like,
Starting point is 00:08:09 it's one of those things where obviously I'm aware of that, but the actual riff. The riff is insane. The intention was good. It's just like times of times of change and people are more aware of what these things mean now. I couldn't believe it when I first started. It's also funny to think that the guitar lead part is,
Starting point is 00:08:27 like, it's just like, oh my God. It's kind of like when a wrestler, a Japanese wrestler has like, in America has like, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bong, Bon. Yeah, exactly. Every time it's like they go to Vince McMahon and he's like, well, he's Japanese, pal. Let's make it.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Okay, what's his character Vince Will he's Japanese. That's, and that's like the whole, that's all they give him. Yeah. He's gonna Harajuku. Yeah. Hit me with number two. Number two for me is another. I don't have much non-hardcore on here.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Mine are just very hardcore. I'll just get these out of the way. Misery Index retaliate. Dude. Hummet. I think I know it exactly. Jun, chint, chint, chint, chint, chint, chint, chint, chint, chint, chint, chint, chint, chin, chin, chin, chin, chin, chin, din, din, d.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Din, d. Misery. Index was so vital to me. Taylor was like the misery index kid for a while like misery index would be like the fucking kid from California that loves us you know
Starting point is 00:09:32 and then toured with them when he was very young played drums for band called Crimatorium and like got to tour with essentially one of his favorite band so Taylor loving misery index for me was they're they're associated with dying fetus it's the same same squad of
Starting point is 00:09:49 guys. Got you. So the same, they approach death metal with the same perspective where it's, you get these parts that are just like,
Starting point is 00:09:57 yo, this is just cold as life. How are you doing this? Uh, and this, this specific part of this song shaped so much of just the way I look at,
Starting point is 00:10:09 like how, like how genres blend, you know? Love that. It's so fucking, the way that it hits is so hard. so I'm looking forward to when all of you are at the gym or something listening to Hardlores Best Breakdowns Volume 2
Starting point is 00:10:30 When this hits you're going to hit so many personal records You're not going to believe it I didn't hit any personal records today dude I was dropped the deadlift bar You know that it means you did it to failure Yeah yeah yeah but like it's my grip strength though That's like my hand like gave out That'll come
Starting point is 00:10:47 I'm gonna just get it What about your little mouse pad? You always fucking squeeze while we're recording. This guy? I'll just get wraps. Get some wraps. Get some rats. What's your next?
Starting point is 00:11:02 Next one was a band that I can't believe wasn't on. This is one of the, we have a couple that are like, I can't believe I forgot this. This is a band that like we didn't even mention that has, it's chalk full of parts that you wouldn't think you're going to kill to, but you do.
Starting point is 00:11:16 A little band called Killing Time. Oh, my God. Backtrack. has an actual breakdown in it. That when I was a kid, I didn't understand how it goes because it does like the dunan danin danin dan in it
Starting point is 00:11:29 Those alternate snares they trick your brain when you're a new listener of this because okay so when you're approaching hardcore and as a new listener you're like what am I supposed to do to each part? Like you think that there's little codes written in
Starting point is 00:11:44 for like what you're supposed to do. Now you realize every song you can match the whole song. you do what you want. There's no rules. It's really the kick drum. It's not the snare.
Starting point is 00:11:55 No. You know. But the one step four. What step four? Yeah. Amazing. Perfect record. One of the best records ever written by any band.
Starting point is 00:12:07 By any band. Right side. Dude, perfect demo. Like the Rod Yield demo is unbelievable. Telltale's unbelievable. Fools dies. Like, killing time is so fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Like I say I'm in the bright side Is better than Asia Quarle camp, you know? I think Or at least like if I'm sitting down I'm sitting down And it's like I have to listen to one of the other I've heard Andrew Quarrel more times
Starting point is 00:12:39 for cumulative please so I guess I'm putting on bright side first But gun to my head I'm saying sir please put bright side on Put the gun down Has a couple skips For me B-side skips that are like Not that great
Starting point is 00:12:55 See I wouldn't I wouldn't even say that I just think bright side is like All meat Well that's what I'm saying Yeah There's no skips on bright side Mm Mm
Starting point is 00:13:05 Bha talk me on my back It's just like My next pick Well in Yeah We're getting into HC territory I have one more Two more
Starting point is 00:13:17 Non-Hore Vance So the rest If you're in this, if you're listening to the show and you're like, man, this guy's number one was a death metal song last time. Yeah. You got, I got fucking 18 hardcore songs for you now. So the hope conspiracy. Ooh. Truth and purpose.
Starting point is 00:13:34 How does it go? I don't know if I know it. That's that. It's like a pattern type deal. Okay. Oh yeah, yeah. Which record is that on? The fucking blue one with the guy.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah, the blue one. the one with the guy. Yeah. The one with the guy on the front. That, seeing HopeCon is, have you ever seen them? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:58 first show. You know when you're, when you're, first show. First hardcore show was suicide file, HopeCon every time I die. Right. So do you remember vividly seeing?
Starting point is 00:14:08 This is the song where the room full of people is waiting for truth and purpose. You know? Like they have part, they have other hard parts throughout the whole thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:17 But it's like, you see, there's a palpable feeling in the room of like, here it comes. So truth and purpose is nice. So I'll be better, move away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:27 The things I've seen grown men do to other grown men and small children to this would, would end this show forever, you know? Yeah. There's a couple of generational bands. Yeah. Oh my God. They're a generational band. They're a band that's like, dude, that's an underrated band, actually.
Starting point is 00:14:48 A band that's like often kind of left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe we should do it. That's a, that's so we were, we were workshopping a couple different ideas for today. And one is, one was underrated bands. So that, that's going to be in a couple weeks. Yeah. Just, it's just a band like that isn't talked about enough when it comes to that era.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah. Easy. Easy. Hope con. Truth and purpose. Love it. Yep. My next one is hometown heroes.
Starting point is 00:15:18 A little band called Weekend Nachos. Really? Dude, they have a song called Payton Over Acceptance. That is just like a long intro over like a dunkun, and like they're, they played the Bee Kitchen once and like I love that part
Starting point is 00:15:36 and John knew I loved that part. And I was moshing really hard to that part. And John just went, Bo fucking looters. Isn't that the best though seeing your friend moshing? Of course. To this day, there's like
Starting point is 00:15:48 nothing that excites me more. I don't talk about weekend nachos enough. They were like, for a long time, they were like our sister band, you know? They were just like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Sister band is hilarious to say. It's like a light, it's a light rib. No, what do you mean? Sister cities. Yeah, I know. We toured with them a lot.
Starting point is 00:16:12 First time in California was with them. They were just like our guys. Right. And still are. and when this, and they have a lot of heavy parts. They're a very heavy band. Yeah, that shocked me when I was, when I first heard them because the kids.
Starting point is 00:16:28 You don't think. No, and the kids at my school that liked them were like the crust kids that didn't really fuck with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who like, they see, uh, an AF shirt and a dying fetus hoodie and they're like, fuck this guy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:42 But they love weekend nachos. Us and nachos could play the same city, including Chicago and played at different people. It's just kind of different. It's like full of hell vibes kind of. Yeah, kind of. They created their own group of people. Oh, dude, Andy played a seven string.
Starting point is 00:16:59 That band was in, like, you know what I mean? Like, no crust band is playing seven strings because they're all like brilliant musicians. Yeah. You know what I mean? They were just awesome. So pay no acceptance by Wiccan Nachos. The intro is unreal.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Good shit. This one is a little bit of an, out of the box. Like when you think about what a breakdown is. I have one of those. Love it. I'll explain why. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:24 When I was 12 or 13 years old, I picked up trying to write stuff on guitar. I didn't know how to play it. I just knew like what sounds were cool. And I knew I like gin, gin, gin, gin, gin, gin, gin, you know? So when I was 13, 14, I'm like, okay, I'm, I got a kind of, a group, like know how to like put a riff together, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I don't know what a riff means, but I know, okay, this is the part where something will happen. And something I wrote was, Danan, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. Which I learned about a year later. I had never heard it. So this was complete parallel thinking from a 13 year old. And a new band from New York called Burn.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And the song is called Shall Be Judged. And that's, and the pit, what I love about it is the pit is all tombs. It's ban. Yeah, I love that. And the drummer starts like, pit to pit to pit, pit. So it's like a non-traditional pit that is built for pitting. And now we know was fronted by the guy who might have invented spin kicks. you know.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Oh yeah, that's kind of his... That's the lores, that Chaka might have been the first spin kicker. That's right. So... I was never a burn guy. Like, never. But how bad did you want the TV long sleeve? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Totally. Oh, my God. I was like, this thing's so cool, I got to listen to this man. When I went through like the real youth crew phase, which there's a bunch of youth crew on this list too, I like wanted to like every... rev band. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Because that was just it, you know. And I tried. I just didn't. I didn't like get it. I don't know. I didn't get it. It was the same thing with, uh,
Starting point is 00:19:25 what was fucking Zach Del Roaches? Inside out? Inside out. I might be the only guy that doesn't fucking come in their pants for inside out though. Maybe it's you and me. We're the last two. Yeah. I'm dry.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Dry. I'm in, I'm inside out. My pants are dry. Um, I respect the, the legacy though. But,
Starting point is 00:19:45 uh, yeah, not. I get it. Like people fucking pop off for the cover whenever people play it. Yeah. It's not. What's yours?
Starting point is 00:19:55 My next one is Judge, which is funny that I left it off the previous list. Because there you're like... They... When I found out about Judge, I was going through in my life what Judge was. Like post- Youth Crewa kind of metal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? I was like, that was like, oh.
Starting point is 00:20:16 hateful metallic youth crew you know straight edge yeah straight edge as fuck which is like that's how I feel to this day yeah so fed up was definitely like on the list but really and there's cool lord of this
Starting point is 00:20:31 where it went by judge which there's a music video for do you know the song yeah starts with the bass part yeah and then it's the do you feel how I feel right actual Bosch part yeah I can look you in the face
Starting point is 00:20:46 and I know I lost the friend. Yeah, that's, that's a hard-ass part. And then the, d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-st. A pattern. A pattern breakdown.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I was talking to, recently, with, with a good old Mac Miller and my buddy, Jesse, about, like, kind of what judge was for a while, you know?
Starting point is 00:21:07 Yeah. They were like the band that didn't reunite. They were like the last legacy. They did. And then there was the documentary and there was a fire that burned. all the footage.
Starting point is 00:21:17 It was like this crazy. So mythic. Yeah. Yeah. Did you get, did you have the judge Hot Topic shirt? No. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:21:24 When I found that thing in there, I was like, I just struck old. Yeah, right. I'm rich. Nobody knows this is here. I'm going to be the only one
Starting point is 00:21:33 with this shirt because nobody comes in here. Right. California Hot Topic was crazy, man. We had like carry on, judge. Yeah. That's sick. It makes,
Starting point is 00:21:43 it tracks. Yeah. I did buy vinyl at a hot topic. Hot Topic when they had it. I got like seven seconds the crew and a bad brains record. I got good stuff. I bet they were stuck there. But cool lore about where it went is Harms Way actually covered it for a very
Starting point is 00:21:57 short run. We played it at the Down of Nothing Richmond like Christmas or New Year's New Year's bash, whatever they would do. Nice. And we played it in other cities and no one really knew it but then all of the guerrilla dudes in Richmond like
Starting point is 00:22:12 knew the judge cover. And it wasn't fed up. You know what I mean? It was like we played played kind of a deep cut. And I just, I vividly remember Dave Wood being like, I was gonna say picturing sweet David Wood before you play being like, you guys covering Judge? That's so cool, man. You guys are so cool.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And then beaten ass. Like, what the fuck? It was fucking awesome. I loved covering that. He's the best. I miss him. I miss him too. One of the most heartbreaking edge breaks of our time, right?
Starting point is 00:22:42 David Wood, if you're listening. Love you. You broke my heart. I miss you so much I know it was you Dave I know it was you my next pick
Starting point is 00:22:50 Blood for blood Ah Bits called Hope You left me A bitter twisted motherfucker dude Dintin Dintin
Starting point is 00:23:05 Tintin Tint Tint Tint Tint Tint Tint Dint Tint Dint Dint Oh cool Yeah No matter how many times They re-record this fucking song This thing still goes Obscenely hard
Starting point is 00:23:16 And this is a band With no shortage of breakdown volume 2 worthy tracks. For me, bitch called Hope is their single hardest part. Another generational band that is like... They're one of those bands you forget, ran shit.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And like still, if they played anywhere in Northeast, it would be insane. I'd be there, you know? Some of the hardest lore ever. revolves around blood for blood. So I look forward to having Rob on someday because I've been told some stories off the record
Starting point is 00:23:58 that I would hope could be on the record. Yeah, yeah. I ain't telling them without, and nobody's permission, I'll tell you that much. No, sir. But the way that they got signed to victory is maybe the coolest thing I've ever heard. So that's a little tease for the one.
Starting point is 00:24:14 For whenever we eventually get Rob or Ian, great friend of the show Ian McFarland filmmaker directed the Agnostic Front documentary kicks ass Hopefully Ian The Godfathers are hardcore Dude Ian's the man
Starting point is 00:24:30 Hope to have him or Rob on someday We'll see what we can't do Yeah blood for blood Bitch can't hope But bitch called hope Bish can't hope That I don't put a bitch called hope on Because I put it on
Starting point is 00:24:42 My next one is another like pattern breakdown one that was omitted on the previous list, which is actually kind of shocking and it's blistered by strife. When I first, there was a band from here called Undue Tomorrow who were around like when I first started coming to shows and they covered, I think waiting, they covered another strife song. And that was like my, oh, let's listen to this man. I think blistered starts the record. I think it does. I think it opens the record. So it's like very easy to go, oh shit. And it's got the pattern thing.
Starting point is 00:25:19 It's got the sing-along part. It's got the... It's got the... It's got everything I need. And at the time, believing they were a straight-edge band, you know, again,
Starting point is 00:25:34 it was similar to Judge where I was like, oh, this is the continuance of what Judge had already kind of laid down for me in my post- Youth Crew phase. You know what I mean? It was like the next thing.
Starting point is 00:25:44 To me, I think Strife Like I had already found hate breed You know Yeah So I had my hate breed Yeah
Starting point is 00:25:53 I think strife is hate breed To Native Californians I'm I'm almost the native California But I'm not Ah So like there was a there's a little gap Where when I heard strife I was like I already have something
Starting point is 00:26:05 Harder than this Yeah Very good But a blistered pit is undeniable It's undeniable It's got all the parts Yeah That goes pit
Starting point is 00:26:15 to pit. Dan an an an an an an an an down. Dude, that's three. It's pit to pit to. They do do mosh three. So, Jay, if you're listening, we've got another for three. But no four. No four.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Wait. Do they go back into the halftime after that? Wait a minute. Dude, it is four. God damn it. Jay, we've got another mosh four. It's fucking blistered strike. It's the same pattern as Apocalypse now, which is funny.
Starting point is 00:26:45 down because it's we'll have to we'll have to fact check this we'll check with with the judges if this is Mosh 4 still double time
Starting point is 00:26:57 with just the pattern and then then God damn it I got to give it up for strife Blizzard's Mosh 4 Jay we got another one
Starting point is 00:27:05 God damn it all right well my next one is Mosh 1 and it was all that was needed okay this is this is and like
Starting point is 00:27:16 one of the most underrated New York hardcore records ever. I wonder if I have it on your team. Is a record called Happiness Without Peace by a band called Sub Zero. Wow. And this song that you've heard covered by legends like terror and others,
Starting point is 00:27:34 this song is called Box In. And I think it is like among the list of legitimate perfect hardcore songs. And I think I didn't put it on volume one because I was like, now I might I might use this one for something soon
Starting point is 00:27:51 so I don't want people talking about it but it's fine you can hear it Voxton made made volume 2 the way they build to the pit with the same thing you hear
Starting point is 00:28:06 in the beginning is like that's how you get me you know like you do you tease me in the start with like okay how we're going to do this later hard-ass verse hard-ass chorus hard-ass chorus the song is so simple and it just shows that like more technical does not mean more interesting
Starting point is 00:28:26 just give it to me you know because they're they can outriff you they've showed that the guitar they rip they're doing all kinds of like there's all kinds of scale runs and shit but when the fucking jan and dintin jen jen jen jen jen jen jen jen jen J-gen-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-hits, it hits like a fucking nuclear bomb. You know what's funny about this list? This list is going to be a really good, are you interested in hardcore?
Starting point is 00:28:59 Don't know where to start? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of hardcore because the previous one is so mixed. It is like. It's very, the other one is very personal. Yeah. You know, it's like these are our, these are for us. This is kind of like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Hey, anybody could hear these and be like, yeah, this is this is up there. Boxed in. Holy shit. My next one is another New York man. A very youth crew band. Seldom talked about, I feel. Band called Side by Side. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:29:34 The last band that hasn't reunited. Yeah. The last one. Did a loan in the crowd? The other last, they probably did, you know. But I'm not a big, like, I don't, I don't, I don't cream over the alone and a crowd seven inch. I know that's like, that's church for, for thousands, for dozens of people in the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:00 But, but side by side for me is like the fucking production, the pits. Dude. The logo. The look. You know who that is? It's a silhouette of L.L. Cool J. is it really dude you ever look at the shoes
Starting point is 00:30:17 in that silhouette they're fucking huge you know why LL Cool J huge the song is called backfire by side by side let me hear the riff
Starting point is 00:30:28 waiting life you don't know what it's about but the fucking the vocal inflection of that era it was just everybody was like I gotta do the thing guys I got to do the capo thing it's like when when grunge
Starting point is 00:30:41 everybody hurt the bruh Yeah. Yeah. But it's the backfire dated and dandadda-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- in your face. Great. Great part. Pit.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Love. Full pit. Love side-by-side. The last one. So side-by-side, if you're listening, don't do it. And supposedly, uh, Jules, like, goes to shows. Like, he's, like, around and he just, like, no, I'm good. I love that.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Side-by-side, don't do it. Don't do it. You're the last one. Don't do it. Wait for the fucking Coachella offer or something. Yes. 10 mil. Wait for 10 mil from Coachella for side by side.
Starting point is 00:31:17 All right. My next pick. And with this, I pick the LP version that were the records kind of fucked up and it starts at the wrong part. I have version specific ones too. Yeah. And I think everybody just figured out what I'm talking about. Because on the EP version it goes, And that's how the song starts.
Starting point is 00:31:41 but on the LP version Shattered Realm All Will Suffer Starts with just Bing Boom bum Gum boom boom boom Boom boom
Starting point is 00:31:54 And that Again was one of those things I heard as a teenager That was like This is it Like this is who you are All the pieces Program for life
Starting point is 00:32:08 Like set you on one path Shattered Realm all will suffer, set me on a path I have never once straight from. My first experience, my first exposure to Shattered Realm was a fest that Shane did in Northwest Indiana that actually some of the coolest lore ever, but basically Shatter Rome played the entire room.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Like literally I was against a wall. Just like, I have nowhere to go. my youth crew band played the fest Was this was was was Joe seeing I don't know What year was I don't I don't remember it was 2000 Let's see
Starting point is 00:32:53 My band was probably like 2004 or five It might have already been Joe at that time I don't Which there's some fucking tracks On Joe's record too The fest ended up getting shut down Before all of the lock and out bands could play Which was like for me
Starting point is 00:33:08 Truly devastating Right The entire fest moved to a local kids basement and it was like mental righteous jams and fuck do you get in yo fuck yeah i got in okay dude mental cover youth to today i lost that was the best moment of your life yeah and you know what's cool is i think i think i asked morgato about it and he said that like that was talked about in like their circles about how sick that show was yeah how like because it was like a bummer Like, yo, that little fucking nerd going crazy for the user of the day cover was insane.
Starting point is 00:33:47 It was can't close my eyes. I'll never forget. Okay. Wow. Yeah. It may have been the wrong side who covered it actually and not mental, but one of them did. They literally did a thing where they just like, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:57 DFJ was sat the entire time and everyone just switched around them. They got. They set the standard for. For me, basically. What's next for you? Because that was mine, right? Oh, yeah. Sorry, I took that.
Starting point is 00:34:13 That's all good. Took it for a walk. This is a good one. Okay. Somebody, somebody, somebody, somebody commented on the thing, Wolverine Blues by Intume, which is a great answer. The dead, again, fucking awesome. The converge cover.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Yeah. Dude. Amazing. Amazing. But my pick is actually the left-hand pattern. the song. Pile track. Tarmes Way
Starting point is 00:34:50 on that first tour with Taylor in Europe, we introed it was either that one or the second one, but either way we introed,
Starting point is 00:35:01 you know, the post to do do no no no there's like the well and then the solo Saba learned the whole solo. And we just played down
Starting point is 00:35:14 and played the whole thing straight into a No Gadsenamaster's song that lined up really well with it and it was pretty fucking cool to the point where we were practicing it and a dude who we saw we saw around like knocked on our door and it was like
Starting point is 00:35:27 that's into it. That was awesome. No, that's cool. Not hardcore at all, but just like one of the the is like so mean and then the palm you part. Oh, scary.
Starting point is 00:35:43 The magic of getting together with your boys and being like, let's do a live intro, you know? Yeah. How fun. Taylor hates me. He's just, I send him the wackiest shit to the point where he just doesn't even respond anymore. If I, like, if I start talking about like, we should cover this, he doesn't respond. Or he goes, what is, like, what, I don't understand what. He said this to me the other day.
Starting point is 00:36:08 He said, I don't understand why you think this way. I was just like I'm just the wackiest one I think my response was I'm just having a good time what's the wackiest one come on I said that when we next time Twitching Tongues plays Boston we should cover the Boston
Starting point is 00:36:31 oh that's kind of cool that would be you know the room would explode yeah that would be the craziest fucking thing of all time dude fucking someday yeah someday no I mean I would do the impression that I get
Starting point is 00:36:47 100% would you Yeah, 100%. You ever see the video of Choke playing What's at stake with Boston? Of course. So fucking cool. So the coolest band of all. I mean,
Starting point is 00:36:58 the impression that I get is the greatest piece of music. Like, you know the boys with the time machine, girls with the time machine? I mean? Yeah, yeah. I'm going back to Beethoven.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Listen to this. I'm putting on the impression that I get. The impression that I get, and then I'm beating the shit out of him. and saying you will never fucking be this. A lot of coward. I just never be fucking to stumping the fuck out of him too. Well, never.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Beethoven. So it's on site with Beethoven straight up. Does you go? You picked one? I was entombed. Yeah, it was in tune. Okay. My next pick.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Deep cut to some, not deep to very few. A foundational band for me, deep cut for even them. This is Sand Black Church. Yeah. The song is called The Alien. Okay. This is another one of those things where I don't want to put it on here because I want to steal it someday.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Gotcha. So I'm not going to describe it. If you care, you can go here. If you don't, I'm going to steal it. Sand Black Church is a band that missed me entirely. Yeah. Which I think is probably not surprising. It's not in your blood, well.
Starting point is 00:38:20 But I remember. when us and you guys played Metal Fest they played the big room and all of you guys were so pumped. Yeah, you were watching me, watching them with tears in my eyes probably. I was outside. I wasn't watching shit. I was hanging out outside. But I was really happy for you.
Starting point is 00:38:39 But I remember like checking them out and being like, yeah, that's just, aren't there horns? No, there's no fucking horns. Yeah, that's doggy dog. You would hear Sam Black Church today and be like, what was I thinking? This is the sickest. Yeah, maybe I need to dive in. I could show one song in, you'd be like, this is everything I've ever wanted.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Okay. Clean. It's like, it's straight up like bad brains meets Slayer meets Blue, Blue scale. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Sounds like entombed, but, but like from, but like Boston. Like Boston, you know? Yeah, I'll check it up. All right, man. For sure. I'm not saying it's bad.
Starting point is 00:39:24 What's your next pick? Oh my God, so sensitive. This is, we had Earth Crisis on the last list. Boy, did we. We did not have Path of Resistance. Oh. Path of Resistance is another band. Who Dare's Wins is the record.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I think Carl told us that everyone on the cover is still etch. Yeah, yeah. And still vegan. Yeah, that's fucked. I think that's what he said, if I'm not mistaken. Couldn't be me, Carl. Shout out to you. Check out Mr. Charlie's.
Starting point is 00:39:58 There's a few good, there's a few really good breakdowns on the record. But see the damage. The Danak, canag. Yeah, of course. That's a heavily ripped off part to this day. Oh, yeah. I'm sure they ripped it off from something.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Yeah. You know what's really funny? And I think it's the song, there's a part where it's like, from the, the, the, no, They like alternate. Yeah. And Carl says the twice.
Starting point is 00:40:28 But just, duh, it's like, too, the, thaw. Yeah, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:40:32 It's very fucking funny to think about how they would coordinate that life. But, um, path again, like Judge and Blistered,
Starting point is 00:40:39 was like that next, like, oh. Yeah. You know what I mean? In my circle. Yeah. They're like,
Starting point is 00:40:46 hey, you're going to be, you're going to be very straight edge because we are. That was how I grew up. Like, like the fight everyone guys were like, hey,
Starting point is 00:40:53 path of resistance is, Path of Resistance was the Chromags to the fight everyone squad. Yeah. So it was like I, that was, that was church for me
Starting point is 00:41:03 because it like, it was my homework, you know? Gotcha. Earth crisis too, but Earth Crisis, I instantly was like, oh, this is,
Starting point is 00:41:12 yeah, this was made for me. Path is different. It's like a, it's an interesting band, but, see the damage and counter. Those are the,
Starting point is 00:41:18 I think, isn't it, like, weren't those songs written in like, no time at all to, the way he described? it. God, I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I think it was like a, like a on the fly type thing. Which is crazy. My next pick. Yeah. The second, the second, the last non-hardcore song on my list. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Obituary. Oh. Could have gone, could have gone a lot of ways here. Yeah. Could have gone many ways. I could have gone something non-caused. Could have gone fucking,
Starting point is 00:41:53 da-da-da-da-da-dun. but world demise title track with the fucking samples over it was broke me as a killy it broke me in half because I was trying to decipher
Starting point is 00:42:17 like what the riff was the riff in the background is like da-na-na-na-da-da-da-na-da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na- so they already had this hard-ass riff yeah and they were like this is the mid-90s now, guys. Let's do some. And it's straight up like hip-hop type samples over this obituary breakdown
Starting point is 00:42:34 where it's just like ch-shart, ch'-chart, like noises. And then they go pit to pit with like a down, down, now with a fucking machine gun over it. So, it's crazy. And they knew, like, they love Marauder. You know, I know that. Yeah, yeah. I know that they knew what they were doing with the World Demi's Breakdown. And that's why I think it is deserving of the honor of being on this list.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And I think that is there, because of all the bells and whistles, despite them maybe having more traditional breakdown sections, this is the single hardest obituary part. Love that. That's a good. Yeah, I like that. I've just played. They're playing here tomorrow night with our boys ingrown. So I'm going to go see him. They ain't playing that.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I'll tell you what. Not a fucking chance. So, all right. This one I got a set up. This is a non-breakdown breakdown. Oh. Okay. This is a very unconventional breakdown.
Starting point is 00:43:32 It's really a bridge, but Armsway is driving. We're in, it's winter. It's an early tour. I think we're in a cargo van. Okay. We're on, what's the bad, is it? It's either I-8 or I-70 is the one
Starting point is 00:43:47 where everybody crashes. Colorado to Salt Lake. Yeah, it's like Salt Lake to Denver. Yeah, yeah. We're on the bad one. Whatever the bad one is. Like the Bayside one, the exploding hearts one, the decapitated, the bad one.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Right. We're on it because of whatever reason. And it's fucking snowy. It's not fucking booking shit during the winter then, guys. Yeah. Stop going there during the winter. I'm sorry to those cities. It's not worth your fucking life to play,
Starting point is 00:44:12 to go drive from Salt Lake City to Denver in December. You know? Yeah. Stop it. Anyway. James is driving. He's got on a band called Vital Remains. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:24 The title track of DeChristianize. Yeah. During the arpeggio. And then the... I thought... And like, I'm like in a cargo van with my hands on the seats like watching James Drive
Starting point is 00:44:39 because I'm so scared. So you're hearing this and you're thinking, this is it and I accept it? I'm gonna... Dude, exactly. And I'm like, dude, if we crash
Starting point is 00:44:49 where all these other bands have crashed and we're listening to DeChristianize, if I'm wrong about the God thing, I'm going straight to hell. I'm out of it. here. I'm out of here. Yeah. And it was a very, it was just like a pivotal, the song rocks. Oh yeah. Lyric is unstoppable force of demonic supremacy. Oh. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:45:08 That's what I say to add with my coffee every morning. It's a little bit of green. I brew it. Oh, milk, please. Yeah, I dump in my little stuff. I straight around and go unstoppable force, demonic supremacy. Take another shit, another day, you know. Yeah. Looking in the mirror. Um, so there, it's not like, um, there's no chucks. It's not like a... Yeah. Actually, there is one guitar underneath the arpeggios, and she just going,
Starting point is 00:45:31 Jan, jean, jint jin, jin, jin, jin, jin, jin. Which is like, that's given it the subtle power behind there that you don't even think about. Yeah. Exactly. But it's just like burned into my memory of like gray pavement, white everywhere else on the side of a mountain in a cargo van.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Just scared as fuck. Listening to a scary part. Yeah. It's a part that could be in a show or a movie or something. Yeah. That's a cool little, cool anecdote.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Good, good pick. Good pick. This next one, representing Cleveland, Ohio. In cold blood. Oh. War is waged. Is that?
Starting point is 00:46:16 Yeah. Which like many people will recognize, I don't know. But that, that was that was one where I was like oh they might be the hardest Cleveland band which like at that time like me teenager was like I was searching for like this is this is why like I think I'm authorized to have this show now is because I would have these internal
Starting point is 00:46:46 debates in my mind inside my mind when I was 15 16 I don't think that they're the hardest one now you know ringworm is the hardest one. Frank, if you're listening, you did it. You always do. Frank Three Gun, Florida Frank, Hardlore coming very soon. This part was what made, this made 15, 16 year old Colin
Starting point is 00:47:13 have this internal debate inside my mind of like, what if Uncle Bloodsard is fucking, it hits so hard. And then they immediately pick up the tempo, after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then mushroom head man's voice is just so raging. That's the weirdest. It's so crazy. It's such a weird. Yo, here's the thing. Mushroom head. Couple tracks, dude. Couple track. Couple crazy mosh parts. Mm. In the mushroom head this god. But that's neither here nor there. And cold blood war is
Starting point is 00:47:53 waged. Very good. This one is a, another hardcore been just but like one that people are going to go yeah fucking finally yeah a little band called outburst oh the track is no choice checka do go to go do do go do
Starting point is 00:48:13 yeah that's I mean that's like that's like a fucking rock with you level intro fill dude there's the Dividian intro Rock with you rock with you no doubt
Starting point is 00:48:28 is it it spider what is it spider webs? Do you got to do do do to sink to the I don't know That's spider webs right Is it?
Starting point is 00:48:39 Yeah I think so That that and then No choice Alburst Those are the four great fills The four great intro fills Every me Chris and James
Starting point is 00:48:50 We're in a band Called Few in the Proud That covered this And like when When we discovered Outbursts It like changed the direction.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Like, you know how when you're writing songs and you'll, uh, the, the, the, the, the, just like reference, you know, blah,
Starting point is 00:49:05 we had outburst two because we already had outburst one. Cause we were just like, so you had more of one thing for the first time. Yeah. And that's just completely rechanged the focus. Yeah. I love when that. I love like discovering a new thing and just being like,
Starting point is 00:49:19 yeah, this is what we're doing now. This is the, yeah, this is the thing. That's awesome. Feels great. Yeah. Just having a new,
Starting point is 00:49:24 a new direction to it's just inspiring. It's like, that's why I find like, I'll stop listening to music to prioritize writing music. And I'll be like, why isn't this working? And then you realize that like listening to music is the most helpful thing. Yeah. For writing music.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Just get being inspired, being a fan. Once you start looking at it as anything other than like, I love this shit so I want to make it. It fucking sucks. And no choice was a song with that drum fill, dude. Yeah. I that was like part of the learn trying to learn that is like okay what is each sound is this a snare is this a tom is this a kick is this all double bass I got it better to better better to buddudududud like I couldn't
Starting point is 00:50:14 that and then you listen to it now and you go oh my god I'm such a fucking idiot like it's just this but those are like these little moments these little uh like you just saying that unlocked teenage me trying to play it in the living room him at the pit and just figure out what was happening. Iconic. Love it. Opera's great band.
Starting point is 00:50:38 My next play. Have they? Yes. They played California like a year ago. Oh, really? My next pick. A super group of sorts. Democracy.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Nope. Certainly not. That. Little band called Ice Pick. Yeah. Okay. Featuring Sir, Sir Jamith and Jostah. And Lord, Isaac.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Bitter, twisted memory. Yeah. Good God, dude. What a cool band. The cool, the coolest name. Yeah. I do, I mean, here's the thing. I bought the CD on a field trip in middle school, I think.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Oh, shit. Middle school or like, or I might have been in high school. I was on a field trip in high school. I had exact change for what this thing cost. The artwork was so cool that it being 162 kilobytes size printed did not affect how cool it was. You know, the low-res JPEG did not make this thing any less cool. This fucking song, because Real recognized Real was on Myspace. Oh.
Starting point is 00:51:57 So you could hear some songs. Bitter Twested Memory, I didn't hear for the first time until listening to the album. And getting to that fucking part, the build-up... Yeah. That's a-dun-dun-d-d-dun-d-d-dun-d-dun-d-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-d-can. That is so iconic Josta. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And as we've said before, he is the greatest Mosh scientist to ever live. He's Albert... He is Albert Einstein of writing Pit Spincake Riffs. So this was just... This is just another... This is a cheat way. to me for me to put a hate breed song on here again.
Starting point is 00:52:31 But like obviously the whole record, you have the back and forth between these two iconic hardcore frontmen. It's so cool. And like both with unique voices. So the contrast between the two is awesome. And like unmistak, like when you're listening to Real Recognize Real, there's some voices where you're like, oh, that's that guy. Like, oh, who is that?
Starting point is 00:52:55 Because they sound kind of different. like from like their classic records to their parts I'm really recognized real but in and then Ezek comes back in and the end with the fucking you know that whole shit and you're like oh my god there they are bitter twisted memory is
Starting point is 00:53:15 on amongst the greatest breakdowns ever read I don't love guest vocal spots particularly live sure I don't love them They can work. I mean, but my point is like furnace on the terror song. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Iconic. Vogel on the throwdown song. Unbelievable. Right. Fucking Ezek on the Terry song. Yeah. Jostah on the Eetown song, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:41 iconic. But my point was he, Isaac has a voice that like I'm immediately like, it's just like one of the more recognizable voices. Yeah. And it works so well against Jost. Oh, it's a person.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Perfect yin and yang. Because it's like Joss was doing the full like, oh! It's a different register altogether. So they're straight up like doing an octave when they're singing together. It's like cool.
Starting point is 00:54:09 It is literal like music. You know? Like it's music. It's like a movie. You know, it's like music to my ears when they make music. My next one
Starting point is 00:54:25 is from ASIC. It's not, it's the intro, but it's the intro to, or it's like the beginning of salt mine, which is just disney chord, gung, gung, gong, gong, gong, gong, gong, gong, gong. That like off time, like the off time rift to the drums. And also different to the guy who's fucking singing it at the same time as playing. Yeah, it's crazy. Um, as like, are so cool. Like actually hardcore adjacent. There are pictures of them in like Utah today
Starting point is 00:54:59 and chain of strength shirts and shit. All while being called ass suck. Being called this insane name. Having a record that is so good and short that I never only listen to it once. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? It's so good and short that I just let it go again.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Like Return of the Mac, you know? Dude, how many times? You ever listen to Return of the Mac just once? No. How many times did we listen to it the other day? Brother. Where were we? Have I said this on the show that that is the song?
Starting point is 00:55:29 Like one time I, for fun, left Return of the Macon for 24 straight hours. And like never stopped having a good time. When it comes back in, you're like, oh! But again, aspect, right. What's the best improv? Oh, it's, oh, my God! Yeah. It's the best that I live.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Oh, my God. I like, I like once my pearl too. Once my pearl. Is that what he says? Yeah. Once my pearl. Once my pearl. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:03 But oh my God is insane. Return on the main. She goes, oh. My next pick is Return of the Mac by Mark Morris. Because that's on the best songs ever list that will do. Yeah. Yeah, let's put when we make this playlist, let's just end it. Put Return of the Mac on.
Starting point is 00:56:29 You're right. It's got to be on there. That's, maybe number two to the impression that I get of best songs of all time Best songs ever It goes impression that I get
Starting point is 00:56:39 Return of the Mac My way, Franks and Ostro Man in the Mirror Man the mirror is crazy Dude Holy shit Yeah good shit You got any more
Starting point is 00:56:50 Asock anecdotes or No but just dope band Yeah Dope band of like music I don't typically listen to I'm not like a huge grind guy Sure But again
Starting point is 00:56:59 More to your point that you often bring up is like they're kind of writing it through a hardcore lens. Through the perspective. Yeah. It's fucking. That's, that's, that's,
Starting point is 00:57:08 that's, it's called art, brother. It's called art. Okay. Okay. Up next is a band that I can't believe was omitted from volume one.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Oh. And I don't even, I don't think that you can believe is omitted from volume one. Okay. Because I think, I think there's a reason why. Okay. You, when you think about this band, you think about like the album experience.
Starting point is 00:57:36 You know, you think about the live experience. It's tough to pin down one part of a band called death threat to say is among the best breakdowns. Okay. But to me, there's one thing in particular that makes me lose my sanity, Bo. And the song is called Never Again. Come on, dude. Dad and Kentintan, dintan,
Starting point is 00:58:06 Dad and Kintan, that's another one where I, like, the things I've seen grown men do to that. The things I, a grown man has done. The things I as a child did to that song. It's in your DNA. I would get life in prison if that was,
Starting point is 00:58:26 if this information was out there. Thank God it's not. Systemic oppression. It is. The death threat never again. Landmark band. Yeah, for sure. Mine would be Brotherhood.
Starting point is 00:58:39 The ending of Brotherhood on last days is like... Yeah, that's fair. That's what I want from a hardcore... From a band. I want to sing-along part with the China crash. Yeah, of course. That's fucking awesome. But go on, sorry.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Never again. I'll kill... I like, it's like, okay, this might be the day, you know? Or I get in trouble. Big trouble. So never again. Um, this one is so important to Harmsway that I kind of can't believe it wasn't on there. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:14 It's the intro to no exceptions by Flora Punch. Floor Punch is collectively one of our favorite, at least me, Chris and James, collectively one of our favorite bands, period. Yeah. There was a point in time in early harm's way with like their first lineup where no matter what if somebody put that on and you're do do do do do do do no matter what with the exception of the driver everyone in the van had to just beat each other. Oh it's like one of those. Oh, you're going over the bench and who's ass. Yeah. Got to do it.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Shit would get thrown. Just like some of the fondest memories of like this is what touring is like. Oh yeah. So early on. Yeah. Not knowing that like. like, oh, I have zero dollars and that. Life is good.
Starting point is 01:00:01 You know, yeah. I owe millions and life is good because floor punch is on. Floor punch is incredible. Floor punch doesn't have a bad song. Hateful straight edge. Hateful, fast straight edge. Is my favorite genre of music. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:00:17 No and no exceptions. Yeah. As a concept. Yeah. Unbelievable. I mean, a couple of exceptions. exceptions. But like,
Starting point is 01:00:29 yeah, I get it. I like what he's saying. Teenage me is like, no, fucking exceptions, you know. What are your exception?
Starting point is 01:00:38 What are you alluding to? I don't know. What's next? I don't know. I'm spoiling the underrated bands episode, but perhaps, perhaps the most on that list. And another band that is just,
Starting point is 01:00:59 so pivotal to me and the music that I make a little band called Dying Breed Oh, I, there wasn't a lot of Troy on I had Stigmata in there representing for the, you know, for the whole area code but Dying Breed is like And again, this and you know, I'll tell you why
Starting point is 01:01:21 Because yeah This was the last thing on the list because it was so fucking hard to pick one part from this record. Oh, Because it is so full stop, perfect starts, you know? Love that. It's like, how am I supposed to pick one thing from this?
Starting point is 01:01:35 But this has the... Dan, dan, dan, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, get up, get up, get on your bead. That crazy ass, crazy voice. I've stolen this part about 50 times. So has Scott Vogel, you know? Yeah, right. This record, this record was a,
Starting point is 01:02:00 another paradigm shifting thing for me of just like how to write like I don't know how these fucking guys did this yeah I dude I love that statement about any like group of people you know what I mean how did they how did these guys do this yeah yeah I love that and then seeing them play a bunch of songs at the freedom fest thing a few years ago the gods hate played in Albany where they they they so they did another man after nine breed called dead and dying. The drummer had just gotten out of jail at this show. He hopped on. They did like seven dying breed songs. Did you know they were going to do that? We had heard tell of the of a thing. And it was like it was it's number three on best live things I've ever seen. It's like bolt thrower at the Metro King Diamond at the Wilter on Halloween dying breed at Freedom Fest. I've definitely said this on the show before too. But the drummer, jumping out off of the set into the bed of his buddy's truck
Starting point is 01:03:04 and saying like, yeah, because yeah. Can't miss curve you? And then like skirting off after it was just like so full perfect experience of what you want from this band. That's this. This is the one part I would encapsulate to say like, hey, this is the single hardest like
Starting point is 01:03:20 part in a song. But even that is so small compared to the scope of this absolutely perfect record that I believe is, being re-released soon by 8389. So look forward to that.
Starting point is 01:03:38 That's such a cool story. Just like that's that's hardcore, you know? Yeah, yeah. That's the real shit. Yeah. That's similar to terror doing dead of birth with Aaron at Sondiuri.
Starting point is 01:03:54 That was incredible. Yeah. When we like, because Vogel like told us like early in the day. Yeah. Remember? And it was like, like, he's like, we're doing it. So, so we were fucking front and damn center. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:07 That was a beautiful moment. What's next for you? This one's, um, this one is the last metal one for sure. My next one is my last metal one. Yeah, there you go. Decapitated. Okay. Spheres of madness.
Starting point is 01:04:20 They got a lot of pits, man. They got a lot of pit parts when, this is, this was probably the first, like, heavy earworm for me. When I was like young and heard it, It was just like that rhythm never left my brain. Okay. Bennett, Bennett, better, minute, but a minute, but a minute. And then knowing that they were like kids.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Right. We were just like crazy musicians in Poland. Yeah. And probably just like, they don't know what they liked. They are just like, this sounds cool. This sounds cool. Yeah. And we're like crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I always wonder what people who innovate genres get that stuff from, you know? How did they know how to do that? Why didn't we ask Joss to that? It's true. Shit. I don't even think he would just be like I don't know I don't know why
Starting point is 01:05:11 I'm just so I really like killing time yeah I don't know like the the anatomy of where these things come from is so fascinating that it's all it all goes back to fucking day tripper you know I'm telling you I refuse
Starting point is 01:05:29 the first breakdown ever is down the first one no no no no no that's first one dude So go back there. It would be cool to find the first patterned, like, open E breakdown. Yeah. Like, was that? Raining blood is, it's one of them.
Starting point is 01:05:48 That's like one of the first. That's true. That's true. I don't know. Because, I mean, that was like people said firestorm just sounded like raining blood. Right. You know? And it's like you look at, so much has happened since then that you wouldn't even think to
Starting point is 01:06:06 compare the two. Yeah. But looking at that then, it's like, oh, no, this is the only other thing that sounds like this, which is crazy. I would love to. I would love, if you know of an earlier open, just chug pattern, breakdown, bridge part that exists prior to raining blood, let us know. Is it my turn?
Starting point is 01:06:27 No. That was yours. Mine is the last metal band on this, on my list. I was adjacent to it last time. And I think we might have even brought it up. Celtic Frost Oh Progeny
Starting point is 01:06:40 Dude That hits like a fucking bullet That hits like a fucking bullet Do you know Here's a deep cut for you I can't hear that song Without it's not Taylor From your fucking violence
Starting point is 01:06:58 Oh yeah By the word I forgot about that Sorry man How much long after It's been like 15 15 years I still can't
Starting point is 01:07:06 I can't not hear it But Explain the part They're building to this the whole for like five minutes dude and then that part that finally hits is like the chorus so of that well how i mean this song is what is long right it's like seven or nine minutes or so they're they're building to this fucking chorus forever with the intro and then the second thing and then this big ass chorus finally hits that straight up just like dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun down and it
Starting point is 01:07:36 really really really just hits exactly like you're listening to the song and you're like, well, they're not going to do that. Yeah, yeah. And then they do it. You know the meme of like the stick figure drinking coffee? Like the he'll never be drinking that gourmet shit. And then... Dude.
Starting point is 01:07:58 So when they play that, when they play that part, the dungung, gung. Because here's what's cool as it does your favorite thing too is that's the verse. Yeah. Dun dun dun dun down, right? Yes. The bend is them hitting the string. really hard.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Yeah, there's no, there's no open. There's no, like, no bat wing there or anything. It's just, it's just natural. That's a big ass string and it's going to bend. And that was a very, Harm's Way does that on a song called New Beginnings on isolation. Right. We just, I just hit the fuck out of the string when we were recording it and it bent out of tune. That's exactly what you wanted.
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Starting point is 01:14:31 Back to the episode. Yeah, okay, so it's my turn. Yes. so this is number 15 right this is the last of oh is it i have one more after this yeah you have one more because i want you right right right first um so turning point are probably the best youth crew band who then turned into like an alt rock band kind of by the end and then every every one of those fuckers followed that pipeline till that they just think that like you have to start as a youth crew band and then you have to just be a rock band yeah i don't understand uh the only one who really
Starting point is 01:15:11 does it is walter right because and and richie let's be honest yeah but that's the god dude i had an into another song on here but i realize it's not really like a it's just a part i like it's not really like right um god richie is the fuck he's the man he's like the best singer of walton he's the coolest richie if you're listening we'll talk about him in a minute Oh, my God. Oh, will we? Oh, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:38 So turning point to lose was a song that mine and Chris's youth group band used to cover a lot. And it's just got cool, like, harmonic things. I just, like, liked the song. But the intro was very, and that's another one where it's like, boom, boom, dot, do-to-do-d-d-d-d-gag-d-gag-d-d- Like, it's very. Swagged out, yeah. It's not Mashi, but they're fucking actual musicians in that band. They were insane.
Starting point is 01:16:03 And it's just, like, interesting and cool. and it used to be like the part that always went off for our sets. I don't know what I mentioned to Broken. That was the other one I was going to choose. The baseline is right. Not for me. Interesting. But for many, you know.
Starting point is 01:16:17 It's interesting to me that you're not a turning point guy because of your musicianship. You know what I mean? And like they are, they're a. Just miss me. A hardcore musicians band's band kind of thing. You know what I mean? But I get it. You know what I like?
Starting point is 01:16:34 What's that? I like cave in. Well, you know. That's maybe why I'm not a big turning point guy. I got you. I'm different. Little song. And here's, and they, they did fucking hard band to alt rock band pipeline.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Almost the most polarizing. And there's, to me, I listen to this record and I think they can't, there's no reason to do this again. So yeah, make alt rock. The song is called juggernaut. Mm-hmm. this is another one of those war crime type tracks, Bo. Like the things I've seen,
Starting point is 01:17:15 the UN have since sanctioned, you know, like you can't do those things anymore to this song. Oh my God. And then around it is straight up like circus riffs. Yeah, very strange. They ain't afraid to hit you with me.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Because then they go, they'll fuck you up, dude, with that shit. And then they did me of the, the promise song that we talk about. Dan, na, na,
Starting point is 01:17:46 na, na, na, na, na, no, that is a crazy riff, dude.
Starting point is 01:17:53 It's a crazy riff. Crazy. But yeah, gave in juggernaut. Diggga, diga, diga, diga, diga, diga,
Starting point is 01:17:58 diga, dun. Amazing. That's all it takes for me. Just do that. That's a good pick. I'm, I'm really curious to see your top five.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Oh, it's so dope, dude. All right. Here's, here's, here's my, I went originally with zero tolerance by typo.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Got a pick, I love that fucking part. Yeah. I love that part. It's so like the pickup part. It's fucking amazing. That would be, I think that's what I said was my favorite typo pit.
Starting point is 01:18:33 And I think you did. Specifically the live version. Yeah, the live version is unbelievable. Except I hate the, accent. I love it. The English accent, I just don't like.
Starting point is 01:18:45 I love it. But we've established that. Yeah. But I went with gravity. Okay. Straight up gravity? The breakdown to gravity. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.
Starting point is 01:18:57 No, oh no, I'm sorry. The, uh, la. Oh. I got a problem. A problem. Yeah, that's a fun. And then the
Starting point is 01:19:09 boom. Whoa. go, whoa, whoa, back into the skank part? I mean, hey, you're pre- I know. You're preaching to the circus, brother. And that's probably, or twitching tongues covering that
Starting point is 01:19:21 and that being on the sleep therapy re-release, is what re-ignited my realization of how incredible that song. That's the song that made me a fan of my favorite band. Yeah, no. That's how good it is, you know. Love You to Death was the one that did that, And then gravity was the one
Starting point is 01:19:42 and was like, oh, oh. Yeah. It was like where I realized like, oh yeah, he did write fucking agnostic front songs. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're sick. Fuck, man.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Unbelievable. Yeah. It's good shit. It's, yeah. I mean, that's a, I wouldn't, that's like a pick I wouldn't have thought to make. But that, that counts. If I ever got, I mean, obviously it'll never happen.
Starting point is 01:20:07 I don't want it to happen. But if I ever got a chance to see typo with. Peter and you know. Yeah. And they played all of that song. Oh, that would be my war crimes. Like, where I just wouldn't be able to stand still. See, I was like the Carnivore AD thing at the StarCore the one year. Yeah. I was in the pit the whole time. How was it? It was badass. Because it was like even even if it's, even if I don't, it's not a different guy. I'm still seeing a cover band of like songs I'll never get to see otherwise, you know. I got you. Did they play typo songs or was it No, it was all carnivores.
Starting point is 01:20:41 So I was kicked. Didn't they get a guy who kind of like looked like him? Yeah, yeah. And he shouted out. He was like, you know, we're all here because of Pete's deal. So like shout out Pete. I mean, that's dope. Yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:54 It's fun. It's all fun. So we before, this is my last pick before our top five, our re top five. Oh, did we go out of order? Because that was my number five. Yeah, I told you I had one more. That was your number five. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:09 So I'll do my next one and then I'll go. to my number five. Yeah, okay, perfect. Right before my top five, the best. Maybe aside from Kaven, like from that era, like New England metal core band. Yeah. Who, like the new wave of metalcore that started like Kill Switch, Shadows Fall, all those before then was a band called Overcast. Oh.
Starting point is 01:21:37 The song is called Seven Foot Green. and before the chorus of this song is just an insane pit part. And like, I don't know it. I don't know the song at all. We all know, like it's the, Brian,
Starting point is 01:21:53 the singer of Shadow's Falls sang in overcasts. Yeah. And like he has a legendary insane voice. And before the chorus of the part, the music stops and he just says, as I grip your neck and twist. And it just comes in, and it just comes in.
Starting point is 01:22:08 And it sounds. and it's insane. And then they eventually re-recorded the entire thing. And it's just, it's like maybe better for the first time ever in the history of re-recorded. Overcast so many tracks that I was like, how the fuck did I not put Overcast first time around? Do you know how many people I'm about to put on to Overcast with this pick? I'm about to put you on. You're going to listen to this and be like, this is the shit.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Yeah. So good God. So seven foot grant. So I'll go into my number five now since you just did yours. My number five. Only a living witness. Yeah. I think I said on the previous one, like, how was that not on there?
Starting point is 01:22:53 Because I would have to pick one pit, you know? Yeah. But when I put my brain to it, this was an easy. Okay. Voice of disrepair. What's the part? Gaggat. Gagga-a-gat-gat-gat-gat-d-d-down-a-da-da-o-da-with the fucking shot.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Shut, got, got, a vibrass lap is Marauder and Only Woman Witness and me have made the Vibor Slap. It is a tool of war, dude. It is a signal of battle. It's like the dark brother of a China. It is. It might as well be an 808, but like scarier because it's like, an 808 is just like, oh, it's a breakdown. A Viver Slap is like, oh, my God, a snake. There's a snake.
Starting point is 01:23:39 That's why I might die, so I better start killing. Yeah. And this, to me is, is like a band who is like kind of peripherally mashi, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Or like the songs are, are hard all the way through,
Starting point is 01:23:51 but the moments aren't necessarily like, oh, this is the part to kill. This is the part to kill. Like, Neva's got one. The nan an an get to the da-na-da-da-da-da-da-de-de-de-de-de-de- December's kind of hard the whole time. The whole time, dude.
Starting point is 01:24:05 But this part, this like as of singular pit part. title track too. Yeah. Yeah. But that's a whole you're moshing the whole time. But voice of disrepair pit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Game over. It's a great part. And the vibra slap is
Starting point is 01:24:18 is fucking insane. And when they reunite, that's the thing is like, like the way that I had to participate for L.O.A. at F.A. You know, was like, okay, I've been stealing from them. I've been doing their thing for 15 years. I have to show them respect. I owe them club dues.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I owe only living witness dues at this point. So like, when they, play this part, I'm sure it's going to be me and some 50-year-old men stabbing each other. And I accept. I accept that that's how it's got to end, you know? Yeah. Wow. What's number four? Number four for me is by Underdog.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Wow. And this one has like a story. It's very nostalgic for me. Underdog rocks. Underdog. Dude, Richie is unbelievable. Underdog. God.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Not even his best band. You know what I mean? Like, think about that. Scientifically true. Yeah. You know? I love Underdog. Um,
Starting point is 01:25:18 and I love, I've, as we've often said, if you skip the reggae shit on bad banish records, you're a piece of shit. Yeah, I love the reggae shit. Songs called mass movement.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Here's the thing. It starts off reggae. Yeah. Goes into a hardcore song. Dan, nah, Like it goes into that. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Thank you. And then goes back into the reggae part. Yeah. After the fast part, right? Underdog played Burning Fight Fest at the metro a really long time ago. It was like 05 or something? Yeah, something like that. No, no, I was out of high school.
Starting point is 01:25:59 It was like 08. Burning fight. Oh, 7, 08 or 9, like around then. Yeah. I have the fucking poster on my mom. But, but anyway. they're playing, they're doing, they're playing,
Starting point is 01:26:09 Richie sounds fucking amazing. Of course. He's got, literally God, I don't know. Yeah, literally incredible. And I'll never forget,
Starting point is 01:26:18 I was on the balcony watching. I had gotten my eye busted during Ringworm. So I was like afraid. I had like a huge shiner. I just, whatever. So I was like watching
Starting point is 01:26:27 and I'll never, I vividly remember people preemptively skanking to going back. During the reggae? Oh, okay. Wow. No, going like into it. like knowing that it was coming.
Starting point is 01:26:38 And people were just like dancing. Yeah. It wasn't like hard, but it was just like, whole, like I had a mass movement, like moment. I had a mass moment where I was like,
Starting point is 01:26:50 holy shit. Like I get it. I understand why this all fit together. Yeah. Like everybody gets that everybody's on the same page. The coolest. Yeah, agreed.
Starting point is 01:27:01 And then killing time played and it was fucking unbelievable. I have blood bath. I'm sure. Okay, my number four And I've had a bit of a renaissance with this band Oh Lately
Starting point is 01:27:14 There was one episode where we talked about leeway And it was like Yeah, like I love leeway I just don't like actively listen to it a lot Yeah, you know? I had leeway on here briefly And then I put desperate measures on Just to be like
Starting point is 01:27:28 Like do I still love this? Yeah Good God Boy, do I ever The song, my number four is called Stand Four. And the reason this part hits so hard is because it is otherwise a completely melodic song. It might as well been like a radio rock hit. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:50 The verse is like, do-dun-it-down-to-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. Tell me about it. Very melodic chorus. And everything halts. and then you get a big fill and to dun dun dun dun dun dun dun da and like for no other reason than just like we're a hardcore
Starting point is 01:28:10 oh yeah you forget by the part forget we're a hardcore band you got you have to kill to this yeah and that like the context of this happening in like a kind of regular rock song is what makes this stand out is so fucking hard like it was
Starting point is 01:28:25 unexpected mosh part I could have put you know you could put fucking rise and fall intro or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is the single hardest leeway breakdown. Scientifically speak. Purely science. Purely science.
Starting point is 01:28:42 It's great. What's next? Ah, two, I have, my next two in a row are just like some of my most formative bands that I can't believe were a minute. My next one is the formative band. Yeah. Okay. Little band called No Warning. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:28:59 that we just like, and they have a lot. There's so many. And I have talked about it, but it wasn't, I double-checked, it wasn't on the list. My favorite no warning song is no time for you. I love when it's after the first verse, and it's no time for down, now, now, now, now, now. It's a little slower on the record.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Kaka, kaka, da, kaka, da kha. Yeah. Unreal. Yeah. It just made, I remember, I remember thinking like, oh, wait, this is, this is a poignant point to what we're talking about is like, oh, this is a part that you can mosh to that isn't the mosh part. Like, that isn't the breakdown. See, and that, so that's like, like, I almost have a beef with that because of, like, I love no one, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Yeah, yeah. And, like, again, I, I knew what they were doing while they were doing it. And because I liked what they, I liked all the things that they liked. Right. They got so many people into those things. But no warning started this era to me. And again, I say this out of respect because I love, I celebrate the whole disgog of bands not wanting to be too hard. Oh, but then they give you the dead.
Starting point is 01:30:23 They do. No, they do. They all the time they do. But I got you. But some bands wanted to be no warning so bad. I got you. That they never actually did full, like, do, do, got it, you know, they did like, do got to do got to.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Like that was as hard as they got. I got you. So no warning was the only one of those bands that I think ever made it work. The rest of them, shame on you for forever wanting to. do this, you know? I don't, there's nothing I hate more than a half hard band. I know what you mean. And I, and again, like,
Starting point is 01:31:02 like typo created some of the worst dog shit ever, by association, you know, like the runoff of, of any of that, the worst dog shit ever. Musuga. Bands that want to be musher, worst dog shit ever, you know? Dude, think about, how about bands, think about what, um, roots did. The bands that want to be roots, the worst dog shit. Ever.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Or like the first Soul Flight record. So it's weird. It's weird to think about you. You hear no time for you. You go like, yo, this is fucking hard. This song's incredible.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Yeah. And then any band that tries to do it is just so pathetic. Interesting. Very interesting. Good point. But I don't want to reduce no time for you. No. Because you see like at we just saw them do this at fucking.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Disturbing the peace. And to this day, it's like God. Damn. It's like a hammer. That part is unbelievable. well, they, I almost picked. In my world?
Starting point is 01:31:57 The fact, actually, you know what? I didn't pick scratch the skin off of suffer, surviving. Now that I'm thinking about it, that's actually crazy. So it just goes to show you that like my go-to part is like, oh, this part. There's, on anything they've put out, there's a part you could pick that. Yeah, yeah. Like my world on the first one is iconic. And again, that's one of those things.
Starting point is 01:32:21 You hear that and you go, yo, no warning is the shit. and then you hear bands do the no warning thing and you go, stop doing the no warning thing. Yeah. It was so crazy how unique they were by doing all these things that, like they were an amalgamation of all these things that already existed, but were so unique to, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Wow. Great band. And that just goes to show. Like, that's a landmark band of an era for those reasons. You just kind of blew my mind. Bands that come around and change shit. Yeah. And that should not be, should not be replicated or attempted.
Starting point is 01:32:56 It cannot be done. So don't do it. So my number three, the first hardcore band I ever heard, the first hardcore song I ever heard. This was the first moment of music in my life that I remember. Grimlock Mountain of Power. Wow. This, the intro to this song is the first music I remember hearing in my life.
Starting point is 01:33:30 That can't be true. It is true. Like, like when I think back, I don't remember hearing other things. Like, it was, it would just be on peripherally. I didn't take an interest in music until I took an interest in this, you know? Oh, I was literally five or six. You've seen Willy Wonka. No, no, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:33:47 I was five or six years old. So it was like Star Wars theme. Yeah. And Grimlock Mountain of Power. Your iPod at the time would be... It would have been Ghostbusters theme, Star Wars theme, Grimlock Mountain of Power. I was so young.
Starting point is 01:34:01 And that's the thing is people are confused. Like, people are confused when I say I got into hardcore via hardcore. Yeah. Because I heard it first. It was like the first thing that stuck with me. Obviously, I took some different paths after that, checking out fucking Lincoln Park and shit after. Because that was just, that was what was on and popping.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Yeah. and our boss's slip-knock came around at a very formative time. But before all that was Mountain of Power. Like going back, every single domino in my life, the main one that led to me sitting in this chair talking to you is Grimlock Mountain of Power.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Taylor Young. Yeah, it's crazy. Taylor Young hearing it via Matt Gripe living in our older brother's car, and Taylor Young needing to be like, call him, listen to this. is is hard lore you know that's it i don't think it's on spotify oh bummer so that'll be it'll be impossible to put it on here but the the ruckus cover of it is so
Starting point is 01:35:04 we'll draw that on there yeah yeah amazing that's a i love that story i i i wonder you you are surely one of very few who can say something like that who got in harcore yeah yeah and that's like People are like, don't trust a hardcore kid that, like, didn't get into punk first or whatever, but I didn't have the option. Yeah, I heard punk second. You know, I heard punk after I heard grimlock. You got into a punk like fifth. Fifth, yeah. And then whenever you tell somebody from New England, like, yeah, Rimlock is one of my favorite brands.
Starting point is 01:35:39 They'd be like, what? What do you mean? Why? But now, now they're, you know, people, people know, people know grimlock. People fuck with Grimlock. I see the shirts out. I see the bootleg shirts out there. I got the real one.
Starting point is 01:35:53 Is nice. Taylor has had Songs of Self at Gmail.com. His entire, like the second Gmail went up, Taylor was like, better get songs with self, you know? Don't email Taylor.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Don't email. I mean, if you hit them up if you got, if you want inquire about a, yeah, a recording. But other than that, leave them alone.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Songs ofself at peep.com. Yeah, what's your next? What's your number two? Yeah, and my number two. Very formative. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Okay. Carry on off my chest. Oh my God. That's how you want it. Skin it, stand it. You fucking got. This song, much like a PG-13 movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Where you can say fuck one time. Carry on established this rule that like fast straight-edge bands could have one big, like, kind of dumb mosh part, you know? Dude. Gun, gung, can it. Is insane. In any context of, yeah, yeah. It's so fucking hard. It's so awesome.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Yeah. Carry on is so fucking awesome. A life less plagued is so important to me. Yeah. Oh, same. And that's like one of the most covered in California in that time. I've seen that covered as much as you've seen fucking like Where Eagles Dare or something, you know?
Starting point is 01:37:25 No shit. Like people be covering off my chest like they'd be covering Myron Threat. Yeah. And every time was like, fuck yeah, they're doing it. I gotta get in there.
Starting point is 01:37:35 Fucking, I love that record. It's actually, it was actually hard to pick a part for this record. But like, when I saw, when I was going through Spotify and it was like, similar bands.
Starting point is 01:37:45 And I was like, oh, carry on. And then it was just like, oh, you see the words. And you're like, oh, well, that's.
Starting point is 01:37:51 You said that and I had like goosebumps. Yeah, yeah. One of, I forgot to say when I said the floor punch song, no exceptions. I literally have no exceptions dash floor punch in parentheses chills because while I was listening to it, I got. Isn't that awesome? So I, again, like we did with volume one, I did the same thing before putting all these on my list. Yeah. And I made sure I got the feeling.
Starting point is 01:38:18 You know? And every time I got the feeling. Dude. So carry on my chess is unbelievable. Great pick. Amazing pick. Holy shit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:30 We're getting down to the wire here. Dude, I just realized that during, sorry, during that part, he says fucking every lyric. That's how you want it. You fucking got it.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Off my fucking. At least it's fucking off my fucking chest. That's bad. I mean, he's pissed, man. He's got to get it off his chest. Listen.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Shun, vintage TXJ, dude. Oh, the man. Yeah. My number two, a modern classic. Ooh. Ready for this?
Starting point is 01:39:09 Yeah. This, I think this, this is a hardcore part that will be covered far beyond the lives of any of the members of the band. I think they did it.
Starting point is 01:39:22 the downpresser intro. Ah, yeah. After part one, I saw comments that it wasn't on there. And even I was like, how could I do that to my place? Yeah. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Because again, like downpresser is, I feel like Dan and I have had these moments where each other is playing. Mm-hmm. Where like twitching tongues will be paying or downpresser will be playing. And like the other will be like singing along or participating in some way.
Starting point is 01:39:51 where like our minds are in such dark places at these times but we lock eyes on each other in these moments and have these this like this visceral feeling of like all right I got I got Dan I'm good you know and like he's always got me when downpressure plan I know all them fucking words all them big old words all them thesaurus dot com ass lyrics
Starting point is 01:40:18 but aside from those this needs none of that because the Downpresser intro is pure fucking mayhem every time. There's something so cool about like it happened a lot with
Starting point is 01:40:34 Plexiglass gate when we would see when we talk to other people at the fest when we talked about the fest afterwards and people would be like oh they play Plexiglass you know what I mean there's something so cool
Starting point is 01:40:49 about the one like the one song that a band has where it's like oh they played it and like of course they're gonna play the intro yeah Don Press is gonna play the intro but like I love the cue I'm like here you go
Starting point is 01:41:04 here it is done done and then everyone you hear woo every time a thousand times a thousand woo's per downpresser intro
Starting point is 01:41:14 what did they what was the one sound of fury thing they did where they played the intro and they played a song and then played the intro again. I think, yeah, I think they, it was like intro, somebody got caoed, played a song, played the intro and the song
Starting point is 01:41:30 and then stopped. It's the best. That's fucking badass. Yeah. All right. All right. What's your number one? Your number one. This is this one's a little out of the box, but it's really not. This was
Starting point is 01:41:45 one of the most listened to, watched popular breakdowns of all time of the 90s dominated it's one of the heaviest parts ever and it is introed by
Starting point is 01:42:02 some of my favorite lyrics that go a boom da am not that ipa Are you serious? The freak on a leash breakdown Dude don't listen
Starting point is 01:42:14 really listened There's a key change I wish I had like a clown honking sound Dude, that's ridiculous. It is so fucking heavy. I don't care about corn. I accept if you're not into that. Are you talking about da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-
Starting point is 01:42:32 And then it goes, then there's a key change where the something is lower. It is. It's so fucking heavy. Sonically, it's incredible. I see you looking around and just like that. But like- Here's the thing. Like my, my number one.
Starting point is 01:42:49 pick for this is like as wacky as that in a different way. Okay. So I'm not, I'm not judging you. It's just not my, I understand, but I guarantee you there are going to be people who like, I'm with bow on this.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Well, of course there are. That part, if you, if you're shaking your head right now, pause this very briefly, go listen to that part. You're going to get, I mean,
Starting point is 01:43:12 turn it up. I'm sure. I'm sure 90% of people listening to this are like, you know, the guy that's put. all the floor punch songs and the turning point song ended his list with fucking corn. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:43:25 My top five is not necessarily in order. I would not put for- My- Mine was 100-100% in order. Okay. Mine wasn't necessarily. I would not put freaking leash over gravity. You know what I mean? But I wanted a surprise. Okay. You wanted a gimmick. You wanted a gimmick. I just wanted so. I wanted one to go, wow.
Starting point is 01:43:43 You did me. You hit me with a dusty roads finish on this, on this top five here. Freak on a leash. Baby. Okay. What do you got? Give me what? I don't even know if you know this song. Okay. I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:43:57 Have you heard freaking on a leash? Yeah, no, I have. I don't know that anybody knows this song. You know? It's in some circles, it's legendary. In many, it's, it is a very acquired taste, you know? Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:15 The band is from Germany. Okay. They're called World. Collapse. Oh, dude. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. Another amazing vocal guest spot.
Starting point is 01:44:32 A Scott Vogel guest spot recorded into a Macbook. Dude. I was literally thinking about this just the other day. I'm sorry. Talk about the breakdown. We'll get into that. Because I guarantee, you're right. I bet you people don't know about this band.
Starting point is 01:44:45 This is, I'm about to put some motherfuckers on to world collapse. And let me tell you about this part. This man is like Madball meets Depeche Mode. I would say those two and then plus like him kind of. Yeah. You know? I think the Depeche Mode stuff covers that, you know? The voice and stuff like the,
Starting point is 01:45:13 you know, you know. Oh, God. Dude, that's another insane pitch. It. They got, they got Pitts, man. But second life is a journey. Yeah. Scott Vogel sings the second verse.
Starting point is 01:45:34 He recorded it into a Macbook. What's a God? I don't know what he's. It's like peak Vogels. It's crazy. Yeah. Like his voice sounds so good saying into a MacBook. And just wasn't it just like,
Starting point is 01:45:46 I think he was just on the bus. Like, yeah. Just recording the part. But the breakdown of this. this song. Yeah. Has so many, like, layers and pieces to it. And, like, the key changes, like, three times.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Ging, g-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-. Yeah, right, right, right. It's like key-change, key-change. That's so hard to pull off. That's, Bioncé. That's fucking... It's straight up, like... Not the one for you!
Starting point is 01:46:20 It's some straight-up, like... Like people who have pulled this off, Whitney Houston World Clubs. That's it, you know? That's it. This is not, to me, I'm not trying to like do a gotcha with a deep cut here. No, no. This is a song that I cannot listen to one time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:39 I have to listen to it five times and rewind this part and just laugh. I listen. I literally listen to the vocal, the vocal spot. Like, it's like, perfect. And it's a fucking... He sounds so fucking good. It sounds so fucked up and awesome.
Starting point is 01:47:01 And the song is just like, you're gonna be listening to this like, what the fuck? Yeah, where did this come? Because they did kind of, I remember when it came out. I want to say that when it came out, I was already into Suffer Survive.
Starting point is 01:47:12 So I like got it. You know what I mean? Like there was like a, there was already that bridge was already there for me. And they were just like the weird Euro. Because what bands were they in prior to World. I think maybe. I think maybe some,
Starting point is 01:47:26 some, like, Shrew Blue or something. Yeah. Like some of those do, like the Kitzel squad. Kitzel would know. Kitzel, who was,
Starting point is 01:47:32 who was in World Club? The ice or something? Like, no, not to do. The ice is badass. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:47:39 The ice was one of those bands where when we played with the ice a few times and I like, end up talking to them being like, dude, I love you guys.
Starting point is 01:47:47 And they were like, they were like, Americans come here and say that all the time. I don't believe you. And I was like, I'll buy a shirt right now. I bought an ice shirt. I wore it the entire tour
Starting point is 01:47:57 just to be like, I swear to God, I fuck with you. Yeah. But world collapse is, it's like a trip. It's, it's kickback world collapse
Starting point is 01:48:07 in terms of European hardcore to me. Interesting. And they're still, they still got tracks. They might be coming back with a new lineup soon. I might know a little bit about it.
Starting point is 01:48:16 I might be able to tell you more soon. If you, if you catch my drift. You look fucking ridiculous. But this fucking. part. Yeah. And again,
Starting point is 01:48:27 you might put it on after this and be like, yeah, I don't know. That was weird. Yeah. But you'll listen to it again. You'll still be thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Yeah. And then the layers will finally click. And you'll, you will not, you can't wait to spin kicks of this someday. I guarantee you'll have the fucking only, you'll have that hook in your head. Only the heavens no.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Now. And the drums are fake as fucking awesome. Yeah, they are awesome. Are they fake the program? For sure. The downbeat, they do, and I know like a guitar player program these drums, because the Chinas are always on the downbeat. It's like, and I think that makes it really unique.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Like the heavens one, the dun dun dun dun da down, it starts with China. And I think only a guitar player would think to do that, you know? Yeah, interesting. That's very interesting. That was fun. Corn. corn and world collapse being the one and one are a real real view into the insanity that is that is this show and the beauty that is this show should we look at some some user submitted ones some comments and just see i suppose last time i i was so glad that we
Starting point is 01:49:46 didn't because i was like i'm just going to have to be mean to them i don't what if we only address the ones that we go i can't believe i forgot Okay. Does that work? Sure. Let's see what people... Let's see what people say. Let's see what the folks are saying here. Dun dun dun dun da bida bida bada bada bada bada bada bda bda bda bda b da b da b da bda b da bbubo bo bo bbubbubbubb unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:50:13 All right. All right. Here we are. 173 comments. It's a lot. Um, I don't know what that is. Disembodied bloodshed. bloodshed rain. Tons of, tons of tracks.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Mine would be, I think seven stitches is the Thistin body track. Down on. Count down. Down down. Count on. Down.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Don't count on. That's a hard-ass part. Oh, this is going to make you sad, Colin. How can it happen by warning? I think, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:50:50 How can it happen? It's not. I don't know. I'm bad with song titles. Yeah, that's not. Dude, someone said,
Starting point is 01:50:57 all in a year by comeback. kid. That's a very good. That was formative for me. For sure. It was on the demo and when I got the demo. Yeah, you couldn't believe that demo. I couldn't believe it. That's a good one. Someone said Slayer of Angel of Death, but we already said. Yeah, we already said, I think we both, did we both put Slayer? I put Ghost of War for sure. I might not have put Slayer. I don't think you did. Wow, volume three, I get to put Slayer. That's fun. Oh, here's a good one. Ragman, my world. Dude, ragman has tons of parts on that record that could qualify. What you're going to do, Got it.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Dude, that part. Super group. And then it picks up. Woo. Ragman. And then they cover territory by fucking Suppletura and it's perfect.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Just to flex. Like, here's what you could have had. You know? Yeah, dude, exactly. It's so good. Dillinger escape plan.
Starting point is 01:51:49 I don't know Dillinger escape plan very well. Not a big Dillinger guy. I like the Mike Baton songs. Somebody said, Earth Crisis, but we already did that. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:51:56 you already did it. Bad Seed World View That oh man I would put If I were to put a badsy song It would be real rain pours Yeah same but Dude when they did it live
Starting point is 01:52:09 And Rifkin did the last part on the crash Yeah He would hit the bum bump bump God and dun dun Yeah insane That's that's straight up like that's a Jasta quality
Starting point is 01:52:22 Mosh bar Bad seed had a serious grip Oh yeah Just like they had everybody They would, yeah, they had everybody. Because it was just title fight playing Mosh parts. So it was like everybody being like, oh, these kids were obsessed with also do Mosh. And they got the, they got the, they got the guy that ripped up my textbook and showed me in a locker in school.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Say, if I ever tell you about booking? No. Say would be like, yeah, in high school we did, we were booking, which meant just knocking people's books out of their hands. Oh, yeah, yeah. called it booking. Booking. Like the big bully from my high school is writing all the songs
Starting point is 01:53:02 for the title fight Mosh band. That's crazy. Did you have a kickback song on the last month? Yeah, Forever War was on there. Okay. Someone said that was just a mature. Terror Ave. Yeah, they're in the underrated bands
Starting point is 01:53:15 category for sure. Dude, somebody said, um, on earth and we, there was actually a lot of earth the last time, but like a lot of people, they kind of miss me a little. They missed me too.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Yeah. Same thing. We toured with them, like, they did a warp tour on the same time as us. And, like, I watched them, and they have parts. They got tons of parts, but, like, I was already an overcast guy, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hope Con, someone said truth and purpose. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Earth mover. Two depths by nails. Is that? Bound. Isn't that cum-sumed, come-queque-cum? No, that's bound. I think Depp says down. Oh, off of Unsilent Daed.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Last song on Unsighted Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That part is fucking hard, dude. Back at that time, too, when John would just, like, like over every part. Yeah, so sick. It was so awesome. Yeah. Somebody said,
Starting point is 01:54:34 Where that slime be at. Yeah. Where that slime be at by Morbent Angel was on mine. You said suffocation on the last one, right? Yeah, I can't put suffocation. Somebody says suspended in tribulation. Somebody said liege. Oh, liege is fucking hard.
Starting point is 01:54:54 Somebody said AFI, death of seasons. Does AFI have pit... They're talking about the Mortal Kombat far. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But does AIFI have like... I think the closest thing would be like... Leaving Zon part two? because the music will be like the fall children whoa part you know like that's a breakdown to me
Starting point is 01:55:13 i love i yeah me too the all hollows EP is fucking that's perfect um let's see martyr AD American Hollow that's a good one is that I am inside of you I think so doing to stab wounds itty bitty peter hilarious title couple crucifixions twitching tongues I love that I mean that's our least stream song of all time really But it's buried at the end of our least popular record. So why would you ever hear it? But the crucifit, the crucifixion mosh part is like something Taylor and I spent weeks working on.
Starting point is 01:55:51 So I'm glad that feels good. Yeah, I mean, it's literally getting. It's crazy. That's crazy to me. You can check the stats. It's, it is number last on the streams. I think excluding like early Harmsway stuff,
Starting point is 01:56:09 our least played song, I think is the electronic song that Casey made on post-human, the gift. Sorry, Casey. I think. Which is just like... My man's made a skip. Yeah, it sucks.
Starting point is 01:56:22 The song is fun. It's sick though. It's fucking awesome. And we use it for an intro a lot. It's like a track to watch. It's just not what the people wanted at the time. Yeah. I've been there, brother.
Starting point is 01:56:32 Let me tell you what. I got whole albums and Dead Last. Our boy, Evan, who's surely listening said Rise of the North Star. Evan, give it up with the Rise of the North Star. He loves him. Give it a rest. Boy, does he love him.
Starting point is 01:56:50 Dude, somebody said, asphix, MS. Bismarck, which is, it's hilarious that they have a song called MS. Bismarckx, but Asphix, Scorbutus. Oh, yeah. Scorbutus. They got tons of pits. They got pit parts for sure that they need to be completely re-recorded.
Starting point is 01:57:06 For sure. Remixed and re-released. There's, like, Asphix would have been a tough one for me to pick a single part. Nile would be a tough one for me to pick a single part. There's a lot, like a lot of death metal bands I look at, like only living witness was hard for me, you know? A foundational band for me was difficult to pull. So there's a lot of bands out there where it's just tough to,
Starting point is 01:57:29 it's tough to pick one moment and say that's the best. If the Twitter says anything particular. I feel like that's, I feel like we're going to call it here, guys. You think so? Yeah, this is enough. Hammer. Somebody said Hammer Bros. It's funny.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Hammer Rose got some fucking parts. But that was Best Breakdowns ever, Volume 2. The playlist is in the description wherever you are listening to this. Thank you so much. This was, that was so fun again. It's the best. I could do this every day. I wish the show was just listening songs.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Just like, oh, and it's so funny how like we last minute decided to do this. Yeah. And I was like, shit, man, I got to make a list. Yeah. And then once you get going, you just... Yeah. It's just fun. This is fun.
Starting point is 01:58:22 This is like... It's funny because it's like a change of pace, but this is like what we're actually... Into. This is what the van... This is like the van, you know? Yeah, right. The van is like telling stories and just listing songs to each other.
Starting point is 01:58:39 And going... Oh! And the whole group being like, dude. Oh, my God. Yeah. All right. But that's that's hard door this week. Thank you all so much for joining us.
Starting point is 01:58:50 We will see you next week with special guest, Aaron Hurd, of Jesus Peace. Thank you so much. We will see you next week. Bye.

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