HardLore - The Best LIVE Hardcore Videos of All Time

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

Today we're taking you to HC101 and sharing our favorite live videos of all time throughout hardcore history. There are hundreds of possibilities here, but we narrowed it down to a solid batch of gate...way, landmark live sets in hardcore that someone sat us down at some point in our lives to share with us. These are timeless moments in the genre that influenced generations and generations of bands and show goers, ourselves included. This list includes bands like Bad Brains, Madball, Breakdown, Straight Ahead, Floorpunch, SSD and more... Jump in the HardLore Time Machine, and everybody, everywhere tear this episode doooown! Watch every single one of the videos mentioned HERE: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxwut3Z6TTiGw3uBU8aQmPY9SA2FfnLaG&si=V1zSL6RdtfT7GxqO Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes: https://patreon.com/hardlorepod Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef Cool links: HardLore Official Website/HardLore Records store: https://hardlorepod.com Try AG1 at DrinkAG1.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1. Get 15% off MADD VINTAGE with code HARDLORE15! https://maddvintage.com/ Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe 00:00:00 - Hello Welcome 00:02:37 - Merauder - CBGB 1992 00:06:03 - Madball - Coney Island High 1995 00:08:39 - Floorpunch Final Mosh 00:11:56 - Killing Time - CBGB 1990 (last show) 00:15:11 - Bad Brains - CBGB 1982 00:17:18 - Underdog - CBGB 1988 00:20:26 - All Out War - The Chance 1997 00:23:17 - Cro-Mags - The Beat 1986 00:26:54 - Straight Ahead - CBGB 1988 00:30:33 - Strife - XXX 1994 00:33:00 - Pardon This Interruption... 00:36:24 - Hatebreed - Hellfest 2001 00:38:37 - Merauder - Wetlands 1996 00:41:19 - Life of Agony - Wetlands 1993 00:43:16 - SSD - Buff Hall 1982 00:47:32 - Madball - Wetlands 1996 00:51:08 - Carnivore- L'Amour 1990 00:53:41 - Breakdown - Tompkins Square Park   HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER   For sponsorship opportunities, email us! info@hardlorepod.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:36 welcome it's hard lord time how are you my beautiful friend bowen doing so well how are you today yellow shirt i'm very excited um this is maybe the most fun i've ever had putting a list together for the show no kidding yeah all right well i love that because like people make playlists every day you know yes it's common oh let's make a video playlist for this yes i mean of course absolutely check it out in the comment section below. But dude, this is like H.C. This is hardcore 101 we're doing.
Starting point is 00:01:11 This is kind of, like this is my favorite thing. Getting together with the boys and the girls, sitting in a living room, putting on hardcore videos and talking about mosh style.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Yes. Rifts, do a guy's hair at that certain time. Who you spot in the pit, like holy shit, there's chaka. Yeah. And you know,
Starting point is 00:01:33 that's going to happen a lot in this episode. but we are talking about today our favorite hardcore live videos of all time all time do you have yours in any particular order i have like no until a definite number one okay okay i'll do the same then okay that's great this is history here you know and you'll see in one of the videos i will show you the conversation is about how like no matter how good hardcore is now and when you find it, the roots are always going to be important. Oh, I mean, is that not the whole idea of what this episode is about? That is the whole idea
Starting point is 00:02:12 of what this episode is. This is the roots of live hardcore music. Some of it is from the 80s. Some of it's from the 90s. A little bit from the 2000s. Yeah. Yeah. But this is history. Okay. And I don't know. We're excited to share these things with you if you've never seen them. If you have seen them, you already know. Tell us below about your experiences at these shows. If you're at these shows, tell me more. I'm dying to know more. I'm going to start real quick with one from a band we obviously love. Straight out of motherfuck, Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:02:43 This is Marauder, live at CBGB, 1992. We got minus singing. We got them sounding like a band that practices three days a week. And you can hear in this performance that what, like, Paris's view from his episode that he did with us on Marauder, Paris Mayhew produced Master Killer is not entirely accurate because like Fear of Sin sounds the same Take by Force sounds the same
Starting point is 00:03:28 The Seeds of Masses is mostly the same There's little nuances that change that I'm sure he helped them tighten But like Marauder is Marauder right away With or without Jorge even you know It's in the it's in the drumming And it's just the riffs Absolutely And you could see that
Starting point is 00:03:48 if there was different drums underneath the riffs, you could say this about a lot of stuff but I think particularly with Marauder, if it was just like death metal drumming underneath the riffs, it'd be a completely different band. Yeah, it wouldn't be a hardcore band at all.
Starting point is 00:03:59 At all. And that was a thing Paris shared that like he would suggest things and they'd be like, no, that's not death metal. And he'd have to be like, well, you aren't that. You're a Marauder.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Wow. And I think that's what they did by the end. You got sob looking like a superstar. Yeah. You have a previously unreleased track called Extreme Fallacy that they play towards the end of the song with an insane breakdown in it. This song is
Starting point is 00:04:23 now out. You can find it on the Minus compilation years record. Yeah, Minus says that this is the first C.B.'s Matinee, which in a while, I'm assuming he means, which is cool, and he's clearly talking, he's saying things like, hey, if you fight, you're a pussy.
Starting point is 00:04:40 We're moshing here together exclusively. Don't ruin this. Don't ruin this venue, which is obviously now gone. But it's crazy. see back kind of in real time the way these things went. I love it. Great pick. I love this video. And it's crazy that
Starting point is 00:04:54 I said the same, when you guys came back to L.A. after you got your trailer stolen, that's how I started your set. I said straight out of motherfucking Chicago. This is Marauder. Or this is Harm's Way. There's video of this from CBGB's in 1992, and not of that.
Starting point is 00:05:12 It's a miracle that some of these things were filmed. That's such a good point because really, you have think about who's filming it and then who's taking care of the physical the tape. A guy who the guy who owns the camcorder is filming it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And the tape surely sat in a drawer for 10, 15 years a lot of the time. And what's also cool is like I don't know if you guys like maybe some of the younger viewers listeners don't realize this but like there was an era of tape training.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Like Jane had the floor punch final mosh cassette tape and when we would go to James House, we would watch it. And that's how you'd watch it. That's how you'd watch it. You two wasn't around, you know? So the fact that some of these things, like you said, made it is fucking incredible. It's a miracle. We're lucky to have them.
Starting point is 00:06:03 My first pick is kind of what the genesis for the idea of this episode. I recently rewatched the New York hardcore documentary and there's a show that happens at Coney Island High in 1995. District 9 plays, 25 to Life plays, but the Mad Ball set in particular
Starting point is 00:06:21 is so fucking awesome. How they filmed this so clearly? It's incredible, yeah. Dude, it's like 4K 60. It's crazy. It's awesome. It looks better than the rest of the documentary. So maybe we did have a different camera set up
Starting point is 00:06:59 because it was static. But then there's shots from behind the band. But you know, you got Henderson, you got stigma, you got Hawaii. This prime madball. Yeah, prime madball. Beautiful stuff. This is, this is, I didn't, I put a different madball video. Good, good, good, good. Because I knew that this would be on yours. Yeah. Um, they, this is amongst the greatest things ever recorded by human beings. Ever. It, they open with, set it off. Um, they play down by law. They play all early madball. Yeah, the sets hit. It's all first three records. It's all hits. In particular, they play New York City and it's fucking, the breakdown
Starting point is 00:07:35 hits so hard and people are moshing so fucking hard but then they also and I forgot about this until I had I rewatch the documentary which is all on YouTube by the way if you want to watch this if you haven't seen it it's incredible friend of the show Mike Dejan is in it Danny Diablo isac is in it he's fucking hilarious he's hilarious yeah but Roger Murray from Aognostic Front comes and they sing crucified Madball plays it and then it In like a little quick snippet interview, Roger's like, oh yeah, I like fell through the stage and broke my back during that. So I'm at the hospital now.
Starting point is 00:08:13 It's just like, what? And you go back and watch and you see him fall and I guess that's the moment, but he broke his back. You also have Rick to Life of Sound Mind, rational, normal guy. Seems a friend of friend to all at the time. It's truly a fascinating watch. If you've not seen the New York Harcourt documentary, give it a shot. Give it a shot. But yeah, that's my first pick.
Starting point is 00:08:35 great first pick huge first pick thank you uh my next pick is surely on yours but we've got to just talk about it the floor punch final mosh i didn't put it on mine no way because i told you kind of what i was already going to do so i like i left some cbgb 2000 dude there's a whole chapter in the book about the show and i and i did read about that one because i was curious about it it's I mean, so they open with a, and medley of outburst the hard way. Yep. Leway rise and fall. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Biohazards Guard for Life. Warzone intro bust and then floor punch intro. And in the book, you know, the book says a lot more than I possibly can in this moment. But essentially, they broke up after the European tour they did. They decided they had a meeting where they were like, we don't want to do in the band anymore. Mike breaks edge. and the vibe in the circle of friends kind of shifts. You got to get the book and read about it.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I think it's sold out now if you're listening to this. I'm sorry. Wait for the second pressing and read about it. But they get offered to play one last show with all the while they did not want their last show to be some European show. Yeah, sure. So even though Mike's Broken Edge, the vibe has changed, they get offered to play with Cromags and Breakdown.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And that feels like the proper last show. Jeff D'Agostino says something very wise in the book that I think I try to actively think about now is that like we're so obsessed with the old guard, the old era of hardcore that we like don't think about what we're doing right now as something that lives in perpetuity. You know? Wow. Like even this conversation in 20 years, this is old hardcore in 20 years, us talking about older hardcore. And I think that's important to just be present in the moment because it sounds like the guys in the band kind of had this like tunnel vision. Yeah. During it, where like they almost weren't having fun, it was so crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But looking back on it, they can't even remember it. And here we are 25 years later talking about this thing that they may have resented at the time. Yes. Being one of the coolest things to ever happen in hardcore music ever. There's a snippet in that chapter in the book tour where it says it wasn't, was it the best floor punch? that, no. No. And it's like Porter would have told you 100%.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It was either the first and second Boston show or something. Yes, exactly. So awesome. It's so interesting that like this is like a fabled, like all of these videos we're talking about are like legendary. Dude, and Porter shows up the second they start playing because he was at his wife's law school graduation. That's right. You got to read this book.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I can't wait to have them on. Yeah. Yeah, Floor Punch Final Mosh, one of the grades, they're fucking, it's chaos. they're out of tune and I would not change the thing. And like I think a guitar cuts out for like a whole like several songs. Fucking awesome. Yeah. They play everything.
Starting point is 00:11:53 It's amazing. Yeah, that's great. My next pick, which I again mentioned to you, so I'm just going to get those all out of the way. Killing time, 1990, CBGBs. This is, I mean, this is on my list as well. Okay. So we got a couple of these then. Yeah, it's kind of just going to happen.
Starting point is 00:12:23 This is probably top three ever. They open with Backtrack. Yeah. They sound perfect. It's their last show. Yeah, he says, last show, times up. That's how he starts the set. They play for an hour.
Starting point is 00:12:40 They do play for an hour, which is crazy. And, dude, this show has the craziest assortment of people in, like, New York hardcore legend. Like Pete and Lou from Sick of All are on stage rocking out. Yeah. Chaco's in the pit for a lot. every band ever you will see that is the one constant through all these things is that chaka is moshing um this shit is unbelievable dude a band has never sounded this good and and assembled this many people i think the coolest thing about all these old cb videos yeah is that you can't
Starting point is 00:13:10 tell where the stage hinson begins i was that was literally what i'm about to say and that's a a constant thread in like a lot of these that i picked is there's no just distinguishing who's playing you can hardly see the drums. Like, there's so many people there. They need, they're, and this is like not just showgoers at this. This is like everybody in every band ever coming to see Killing Time Off. Vitalo had the idea for specifically for this to watch it live with like Hoya or something, frame by frame and be like, who was this guy?
Starting point is 00:13:50 That's a great idea. Because there's one guy that tags the stage mid-Mash. Really? Like, who was that guy? Who's in the fedora? How, where's Chalk? Like, how many times? Chaka, is he the greatest mosher of all time?
Starting point is 00:14:05 This video I watched in full today, excited to talk about. Awesome. Do you remember what the lineup was? I think Madball played. I don't know. I didn't look that up. Had this on a cassette tape, and we would watch it in high school. and I'm almost positive Madd Ball was on it too
Starting point is 00:14:24 but I don't know the lineup for the show but Anthony like his stage presence in this is so fucking good they're such a good band yeah and this is a few I mean this is why all those dudes that we talk about from that time are like Brightside number one no question yeah right and it's crazy to think
Starting point is 00:14:43 if they had stuck around past 1990 I mean they're back obviously in playing shows I've played with them 15 times last year it was the best Yeah, the last pile up is like half the crap. Yeah, it's crazy. And then they cover Black Sabbath, symptom of the universe, which Warzone would later rip off on the self-titled. So that must have just been like an old head,
Starting point is 00:15:04 NYHC anthem, which is really funny. That is funny. Never even thought about it. Just do it. You do another one since we both had that one. This one is an obvious one. This is one that I own on DVD for some reason, but it's Bad Brains, CBGBs, 1982.
Starting point is 00:15:39 HR is a fucking god in this. Yeah. They open up with big takeover, and the second it kicks in, he's like skanking with a mic stand, and it looks so effortless and cool. And you can tell that everyone who's like watching, who's like lining the stage is like so excited.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yeah, these are bad brains are gods to two gods, you know? Anybody that we look at as like a musical hero, of ours has that same reverence for the bad brains the whole set is on YouTube all of this stuff is obviously all on YouTube and it'll be oh yeah it's all linked below yeah as well and so it's all there please watch this it is in almost any any like documentary sense about early punk rock every band or in hardcore every band talks about the bad brains with like such high regard and like yeah they were so good there's one with Ian where he's like yeah teen idols play with bad brains and I hated my bass sound bad
Starting point is 00:16:39 bad app, bad bass, whatever, and then Daryl played the same one, and it just sounded incredible. And it's because they were just like such great musicians with such a cool way to approach this kind of music. They changed the game.
Starting point is 00:16:55 They changed the game. Changed many games. And they were doing it so early. They were around. They were like vets at this point. Yeah. You know, this is 82. It's true.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I love all the stories of old hardcore guys, seeing them set up, not knowing a thing about them. And then by the end of the set, they're like, well, this is obviously the best band of the world. It's clearly my favorite band. I love it. Speaking of hardcore influence with reggae parts,
Starting point is 00:17:23 this next video is Underdog at CBGB 1988. That's the next one on my list. Is it? At minute 32, Richie says, Yo, anthrax, were not like you. You, dude, because he's talking about anthrax trying to copyright or trademark the New York hardcore logo. Dude, the stage dives in this, Ritchie's voice being a little raspy, so he sounds like this the whole time. The crowd is moving like an ocean during mass movement.
Starting point is 00:18:19 So this is exactly why I put this on. There are two bouncers on stage for the whole thing, but particularly. particularly in mass movement. And when that song kicks in, they're both like dancing. And they're both so into it. And Richie Skanks. And it's so fucking cool.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And I went down a rabbit hole to figure out who these bouncers were, like to your Vitalos story point. And found one of them. And I follow him on Instagram now. He's just like an old New York skinhead guy who is just like, was that he's in, he's in the killing time video. He's in so many.
Starting point is 00:18:54 He's the one that's on stage. he looks like the most jacked man alive. There's two. I believe he's the other guy. The most jacked man alive, it looks ridiculous. He's so jacked. Yeah, yeah. I believe he's another guy.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Okay. It's hard to know, but I tweeted about this. People said, oh, that's this dude. So, like, I got pointed in his direction. The vibe for mass movement in particular is so awesome. I agree. One of those shows where when people ask, like, what's a show you would, like, want to go to and like time warp to or whatever, this would be one.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I agree. I feel the same about this and one that I'm going to say later. But I can't imagine, like, listening to just how tight they are, how literally perfect they sound. Yeah. I can't imagine watching this in 1988 and not thinking like, well, this is obviously going to be the biggest band in the world. Yeah. Like, this is the best form of hardcore currently existing. He does the entire back-to-back chorus Acapella.
Starting point is 00:19:51 They close with negative approach. I love it's about who you are It's about who we are This song's called Underdog Oh my God Unbelievable dude But yeah the hard stance of yo anthrax We're not like you
Starting point is 00:20:05 Is like that It's so perfect It's perfect dude Yeah I didn't expect that The first time I saw it And it changes the context of the song Forever Yes
Starting point is 00:20:18 As you listen to it Yes Oh boy Should I do another one now since we both had that all. Perfect, yeah. All right. This is All Out War, Poughkeepsie at the Chance in 1997,
Starting point is 00:20:29 had to put the goats on there, the hardest band ever. We talked about this in the Mind Force episode as it's a, this is an aggressive show. You know, you know there's spin kicking in there. You know the dancing is violent, but the crowd is packed to the front regardless. Great stage dives that aren't like with the intention of hurting somebody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:13 It's an incredible example of a band being at their best and people in the crowd understanding the assignment. The dive style, they're all packed to the front. They all want to be in the moment. And they're hearing the band at their best. They cover promags and it sounds unbelievable. I love watching these bands that sound like they practiced every single day. What song do they cover? World peace, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Okay. Cool. And it's awesome. Yeah. All at war. 1997. This is a little later. And it's Yeah. The spirit is the same, but the sound is completely different.
Starting point is 00:21:51 How scary it must have been to see that. But it's like, dude, I don't even think fear was the thing, because it was so unified, you know? And like Jay said in the episode, like, only the sickest motherfuckers in the world were doing what everyone does now. There's a, there's a grace, you know, to the slam dancing. Yeah, it's not like what
Starting point is 00:22:14 we know is crowd killing, which, you know, whatever. Crowd killing is just moshing now, and that's crazy. Yes. Because you should, I mean, if you're, if you're just a guy, yeah,
Starting point is 00:22:26 crowd killing, somebody's friend, and they beat your ass, you probably deserve it. Probably. Yeah. You watch all these old videos and it's just not a thing.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Grace, style. Style should be number one. Violence is great. Violence is the best But it should come second to the style If somebody hits you hard as fuck And they looked cool You're probably going to forget about it
Starting point is 00:22:50 Wow You know Profound, yeah If it looks like shit We gotta kill that guy You know what we really need to get rid of I think we've talked about it before But I've been reminded of it
Starting point is 00:23:03 The joke Getting on stage and going across I mean we've talked about it at length it needs to go. If you see it, if you see something, say something. Okay,
Starting point is 00:23:13 we got to get, we got to eject these people. See it, say it. It's over, man. Yeah. This is a short one.
Starting point is 00:23:18 This one's a little out of the box. It's on a full set. And it's, it's from that piece of shit, the beat. But Chrome at, oh yeah, 1986,
Starting point is 00:23:27 they play, uh, it's the limit. Hard times. That's it. It was filmed in a feature film. In a feature film. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:51 They, they, I believe it's after they got off tour with Venom and Motorhead, which like wasn't a great tour for the Chromex. We talked about it, right? With Paris? Yeah, I believe so. And, and at the very end of that tour, they had to get to the Ritz is where I think it was filmed. And they didn't know, you know, it was just a show that they were going to film. It wasn't like a thing. It wasn't like the movie filled that room. It was a Cromack show. Right. And it was packed. And they were very. very much like this is where they got the term the cromag army was there wow and it was very
Starting point is 00:24:27 and isn't this there's footage of all people like holding up their chrome mag shirts like so psyched to be it right yeah so i i think it was like uh you know there's it's it's not fucking i don't know if there's pre-sales or what's going on back in the day it's it's it's 86 i don't really yeah they're lining up around the block line it up around the block i mean and so it's this is 86 so this is right around age of quarrel yes and everybody we've talked to was like they were the band this was it like local bands were covering the Cromags
Starting point is 00:24:56 in 1986 yeah so I got to talk like again it's only two songs but there's so much in it there's like people think Peter Steele is in it I have broken it down and determined that it is not him because the guy who people think is
Starting point is 00:25:13 doesn't have a tattoo his shoulder doesn't have that panther I'm sure there's all kinds of all stars in there though yeah yeah for sure and namely during it's the limit during the I don't want to say the breakdown part fucking Ritchie underdog does one of the
Starting point is 00:25:28 coolest stage dives and it's like he's youth crewed out and seeing that he comes from the back of the stage no no he comes from the front but he does like a jump and a fist thing and does a huge dive and it's so
Starting point is 00:25:44 fucking cool and then there's like just awesome pitting during it uh Paris looks dope. JJ looks dope. Harley looks dope. It's the line up Doug. This is prime.
Starting point is 00:25:56 This is prime. It's prime. Prime Chromex. And then he does, they do hard times. At the very end, John Joseph does like a perfect front flip off the stage,
Starting point is 00:26:06 just like a perfect like, right? And doesn't hurt anybody. And it's, I don't, I can't believe that for a movie they captured such a cool thing.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Yeah. That's impossible. You got professional videographers not film. filming a staged thing, you know? So it's like, hey, just let the show speak for itself. There are some funny, like, cuts to people like, yeah. That are obviously, yeah, you know, like for the movie, and that's a little silly.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And then the main character of the movie, I'm assuming, is always like, oh, he's like, in the pit. But apart from that, this, I love. Just a great performance. I love this video. Yeah. There's a lot you can learn from things like this, you know? Got a lot to learn. There's style.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Hey, there you go. My next pick, back to 1988, the greatest year in the history of our sport. Yeah. This is straight ahead, CBGB. Everybody, everywhere, tennis plays down. That's one straight ahead.
Starting point is 00:27:11 We have a lot of the same ones, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is for the Pete's sake benefit? Yes. Who is Pete, from SIGFITAL and legal trouble. Yeah. This is their first show in two years.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yep. This is some of the craziest energy ever captured on or off the stage. Everybody everywhere tear this place down. This one's straight ahead. Oh. And people cheer. People. And also, if you listen to it before he even says that, people are like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah. Like, go fucking pumped. Straight into breakaway. And then being like, all right, what do you guys want to hear? That's all we. That was the set list. And who do I see? Masha.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Chaka. Yeah. He's always Moshin, dude. This is a great example of not knowing who's doing what, because the stages could not be more. No, you can't see. He says Armand, but I don't see Armand. You know?
Starting point is 00:28:27 Probably my favorite stage presence. Yeah. He's, it's effortless. It's effortless. He's diving. And that's why it rocks. Dude, he does a dive. with the mic like this and he's like,
Starting point is 00:28:39 ah, and that's so scary. Yeah. That's, that's, kunk. You never know, especially there. But dude, this looks like just like,
Starting point is 00:28:47 this looks like everybody in the room is friends with each other, and they're all like, come on, bro, just play. Yeah, yeah. We love your band. Can you just play? And these are straight ahead,
Starting point is 00:28:57 these are some of the best hardcore songs ever written. Yeah. This is another incredible blueprint of, if this type of hardcore is, is the next phase, we're golden. We're good to go. Well, give me more straight ahead. Something we didn't talk about on the previous episode
Starting point is 00:29:15 where we were kind of catching up was the underdog breakdown show that happened in was it? Oh, just yeah, a couple weeks ago. A couple weeks ago. The rebirth showcase, Bob's, Bob's Reverse showcase. And Big Bob's little show. And it was like he was posting videos
Starting point is 00:29:34 of the covers that bands were doing. And like it was all floor, straight ahead Utah. I want somebody to be able to open up
Starting point is 00:29:44 with straight ahead and for it to be a graceful war zone you know exactly and it makes me very very happy
Starting point is 00:29:53 there is a mental WERS live set from I don't remember how long ago but he says everybody everywhere to this place down
Starting point is 00:30:03 so like I knew it's already canonized in history I didn't know what it meant because I didn't know about the straight ahead video because it was so I probably it probably wasn't on YouTube yet Mm-hmm so finding it so it makes you wonder how did they know they probably knew from fucking tape trading It took to to once again quote James Vitell if straight ahead at CBs? Hardcore should end
Starting point is 00:30:26 Holy shit he said so here we are. It's in the mix straight ahead at CBGB 1980s Amazing pick well done. Thank you My next one I'm going West Coast on this this one was a mystery because I don't know where it was. It's Strife in 1994 and it's called the video is called
Starting point is 00:30:48 Strife XXXX version. That's it. I can't find any info on it. I mean it could be probably California somewhere. I think it's California because everyone knows every part. Yeah. Yeah. I have never in my life somebody in the comment says there's a dive every
Starting point is 00:31:18 point three seconds. I have never in my life seen more perfect stage diving and like perfect crowd participation in the way that like I prefer. And that's why we study these things do so intently. You know, it's like cannonball front flip dives. There's perfect sing-along dives. Rick is diving like a madman. They're playing tight. Like it's so I remember finding that video on like lime wire way back in day and and just being like oh my god meanwhile the dance floor yeah is chaos because they're playing these hard-ass pit parts dude this video was like a gem for me and i wasn't i had a hard time finding it because
Starting point is 00:32:06 that it's so like vague but i found it and i strife xxxx version you could go either way you know could be a lot could be a lot of different results i know somebody close to me who got caught with naughty videos on their family computer and their They played it off by saying, I looked up X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, like straight edge, and it worked. It worked? Not me. Wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I was about to say, is his name, rhyme with low booters? No, it wasn't me. Okay. Very quick thinking on that person's part. Gotcha. Yeah, that's genius. Back to something that was said in the underdog video, I believe the show ends, and somebody says, like, go home.
Starting point is 00:32:49 you guys fucking stink or something that's awesome it is and if only at that time it's funny to think that I thought oh this would be a good time I should say something as though you didn't plan on that
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Starting point is 00:36:19 Back to the conversation. What were we talking about? Strife was the last one. So you're up. Speaking of strife. Victory records. What other band is synonymous with victory records, Bo? Hate breed.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Little motherfucking band called Goddamn hate breed. This is Hellfest 2001. You got Jamie, Sean Martin, Boulder, Beattie, Prime. This is probably shortly after I saw hate breed for the first time, which is crazy to think about. Would that have been over there? West Coast. That was in Connecticut. Yeah. Wow. So this is, this is, you're watching this and you go, oh, this is the best band of the world. This is the best band in the world in 2001. And everybody in that room knows that. If satisfaction has been out for several years by this time,
Starting point is 00:37:25 everybody knows every word. This is kind of a good look at the evolution of like from 2001 to now. This is kind of the most one of these videos looks like what we have now, when it's, when it's, good. You know? Yeah, yeah. This should be what it always looks like. Slammed to the front, singing the words,
Starting point is 00:37:46 people dancing back there. Yeah. Come on. While the tightest band on Earth is playing these songs. I'm remembering all the Hellfest DVDs now. And thinking about this set, you kind of forget how perfect Hapreed was.
Starting point is 00:38:08 You know what you can't? There's so many. Yeah. And this particular set, I know exactly the one. And it is so awesome. The like stage power goes out for a second during empty promises and then comes back for Puritan. And the entire crowd is doing the entire song. It's the sickest shit ever, man.
Starting point is 00:38:30 2001. Great pick. A spin kick. A spin kick odyssey. There we go. All right. here's my marauder pick. Hit me.
Starting point is 00:38:41 1996 Marauder at the wetlands. Minus and Jorge. You got them both. They sound like a million dollars. Yeah. There's a part, I don't remember which song.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I couldn't find it in the video, so you got to watch the whole thing. But there's a part where they're singing like a not-minus song. They play a non-minus song, and minus gives Jorge the mic, Jorge sings into both mics, yeah. And it somehow doesn't feed back, which could only happen to the Master Killer. It's so awesome. And this is, Master Killer's been out for over a year at this
Starting point is 00:39:36 point, or at least a year at this point. And like, it's, it's so you can, from all the old Marauder videos, they were like this local ass band, this, this little miracle of bands playing these unbelievable songs that nobody else could play that hadn't really broken through yet. And by this time, they've just kind of been established postmaster killer, and they're doing songs with the original singer, you know? There's a funny moment. They start playing. They open with time ends.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And there's reverb on the snare in a live setting. It sounds so good. And you see Jorge go and talk to Minus and like shake his hand and say what's up. And you see Minus kind of go, and I can only imagine it's like, you're going to sing something. He's like, yeah, maybe, you know. because then he starts singing like halfway into the first verse. He's not like, he just like grabs a mic and all of a sudden he like... It wasn't a plan.
Starting point is 00:40:32 It seems like it wasn't like... Or it was a plan. It was a bit, you know? Yeah. It's so awesome. The pit is scary. This is now, this is 96 is when it starts to be. Yeah. Dudes are dying in the pit.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Yeah. This is horseshoe because it had to be. Yeah. So it's kind of a different vibe crowdwise, but it's such a wonderful... cross-section into this era of the band that we love so much. Totally. On the record that we love so much. Totally.
Starting point is 00:41:02 In their absolute prime, sounding incredible. They sound great. They sound perfect. They're seasoned by this time. They're definitely touring Europe three times a year, probably. Central Media, Master Killer, over 10,000 copies sold at this time or something. Speaking of which, also at the wetlands. Oh.
Starting point is 00:41:23 1993 Life of Agony Yeah, dude This video I could probably recite front to back They opened talk So the same night
Starting point is 00:41:49 In New York City Nirvana was playing at the New York Coliseum to 7,000 people So they start by saying Nirvana sold about 900,000 records We only sold about 800,000
Starting point is 00:42:02 records So the 100,000 people who didn't buy the record are going to see them. And then they start playing to the craziest assortment of hardcore punk showgoers you've ever seen. And this is one of the like fabled like scariest shows. Oh, it's horrifying. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Dude, there's skinheads chicken fighting. Yeah. Yeah. Like. Yeah. It's crazy. It is legit. The wildest assortment of every kind of hardcore punk person you can imagine.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Joey's wearing a biohazard self-titled shirt. It's incredible. It looks like. there's eight cabs on stage. Yeah. Yeah. And you can tell looking back at videos, like, what band was going to break, you know? Interesting.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And you hear Life of Agony in this, they're in a different league, musically, you know? This would have changed my life if I was there. It did change my life in a way, seeing it after, but, dude, this is, this is legit. I mean, you can see why Sal goes,
Starting point is 00:43:04 oh, I got to quit type of. and just do this. This is crazy. Yeah, which is so wild. Wild to think about. All right. Great pick. My next one is one of my all-time favorite things
Starting point is 00:43:18 because it only happened once and it's called The Gathering of the Tribes. It was SSD going down south and they played a show in Camden, New Jersey with minor threat. Hey, pardon this quick interruption, everybody. We just wanted to chime in here. This episode was recorded.
Starting point is 00:43:35 before we found out about the passing of the late great Al Baril. And we just wanted to say a few words of condolences for him and his wife, Nancy. Yeah, ever since I found out about the early Boston scene and Al's impact on stuff, he's always been sort of a hero of mine, which feels a little silly to say, but it is appropriate. And I'm happy to have been able to connect with him a little bit before his passing last year. and he gave some kind words and some blessings for the show and for what we do and said he like digs what we do. He could tell we care about what we're doing. And he was really kind and really cool.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And I'm just glad that he saw what we were trying to do and that we do respect and appreciate his impact as much as we do. His mark on hardcore is endless and will live forever. And, you know, as lifelong straight edge guys, you know, minor threat may have, created the message, but it can be argued that SSD is responsible for the movement. You know? Like, who knows if it would have ever gotten past being a song, if not for people like Al, bands like SSD. So we cannot thank him enough.
Starting point is 00:44:51 We owe him an enormous amount of gratitude just in terms of his artistic input, his cultural input. He's the man. He's the man. He was incredibly kind to us. He was incredibly kind to us. others and taught us that we got to stick together. Therefore, we shall. Thank you, Al. Rest and peace. It was a time when two straight-edge bands, you know, which, which I don't know
Starting point is 00:45:35 how you want to talk about minor threat as being a straight-edge band, you know, whatever, but like- They're the gods of it. No matter how you spin it, it came from them, yeah. And they played a show together. I think if I'm not mistaken, Ian got hit by a car before the show. Like, front of the venue. Wow. There's a, in the, how much art can you take SSD book? There's like a segment about it that this was like,
Starting point is 00:46:02 the gathering of the tribes. This was like, hey, we're all into the same thing. We're a little more extreme. But let's do it. We'll play a show together. And SSD is clearly like fans of minor threat,
Starting point is 00:46:13 you know? When, if you watch the minor threat set, I'm specifically talking about the SSD portion of the show, just because like, Al looks fucking incredible. ring is on his shit. Al is doing this dive where he jumps and lands
Starting point is 00:46:26 on his ass. It's like the craziest move. Whatever. But it looks awesome in pictures. Yeah. The songs go off the rails a couple of times where they just like stop because they like they're like, no, that's not the part. Like they don't play it right.
Starting point is 00:46:42 We're just figuring out this whole music thing, guys. Give it to break. But if you watch the mind of threats that they play straight edge and you see dudes in SSD shirts like singing along. And they're like, this is it. This is the thing. And it's just like a cool little like, oh, it happened.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Like this kind of two ships passing like happened, you know. Totally. And it's weird to think about them existing in the same era. Isn't it? Yeah. I know. And when SSD is like, hey, we're going to take this message. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:13 And we're going to keep going. We're going to evolve it. Militaryize it. And militarize it. Yeah. Really beautiful, man. Minor threat. what it's all about. That's why we're here. The homie Ian.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Friend and new friend of the show, Ian. Okay. My second to last pick is Mad Ball, Wetlands 1996. This is it. This is Madball and their prime. Constant Mosh start to finish. Freddy's end.
Starting point is 00:48:42 energy 100% the entire time. Perfect set list. First three records only. Mid set, as you said earlier, they invite not only Roger, but AF plays power and victim
Starting point is 00:48:58 and pain. They were broken up. Oh, really? So this is an impromptu, unannounced AF reunion. Holy shit. That the band would have such a great time. They would, the next day, in planning the two-night AF reunion
Starting point is 00:49:13 later at the same venue the same year. So this, and you hear Roger on stage being like, my little brother Freddy, I love you, you know? Yeah. It's giving me goosebumps right now just talking about it. Telling his little brother in front of a sold-out crowd that he loves him and everybody
Starting point is 00:49:29 hugging after just two songs. It's unbelievable. And Freddie says something during this set about, there's a lot of good bands out there, but if you're just getting into hardcore, you need to remember the roots. like I said before, we always like to pay respects. And want everybody out there to remember the roots.
Starting point is 00:49:51 There's a lot of good bands out there now. Don't get me wrong. If you're just getting it to the scene, it's all good. You just remember the roots. Don't never forget it. And ultimately, that's exactly why we do this, and it's the same sentiment we share every single week. This set is in, it's 40 minutes of Madball.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah. And it's, it's hit after hit after hit after hit. it's perfect i'm really i don't particularly know this one very excited to watch it you are going to start it and watch the entire thing and dude the energy is fucking insane it's wall to wall mosh and sing along for 40 straight minutes what what was the and then a f what was the wetlands i don't know i it's always just it's the it sounds so wet you know i just it always makes me think people were walking in they're like, ugh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:47 But yeah, man, this shit is unbelievable. I sat down. This is another one where before we started, I was like, I'm watching this whole thing. Yeah, yeah. Can't believe it. Yeah. I'll probably watch it again when we wrap this. It's the best set list I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:50:59 New York City's on there. Set it off's on there. It's all hits. And just the vibe is off the charts. I would have loved to have been at this. So because we chose a couple of the same ones, I was just reminded of one that I have to include, so it's an impromptu edition.
Starting point is 00:51:17 But it's one of my favorite videos. And here's the beauty. I know it's one of your favorite videos. You're going to know the year. So I don't even need to worry about it. Carnivore reunion. Oh, yeah. This is Bensonhurst, Brooklyn. And you got a right to hate who you want.
Starting point is 00:51:33 So let's start busting heads. A live bootleg recording. And there is a live thing because he, typo has been around, you know? Yeah. He's doing melodies. Yeah. in all these songs that did not exist before. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:00 So when we play Preacher Man, there's a little thing I do during the breakdown where I say, Carnivore, I'm a meat eater, I'd like to meet you. And I'm specifically calling back to the one fucking time he's saying it in this set that way.
Starting point is 00:52:15 There is a thing that happens when they go into the Dun, dun, dun, dun, fighting, where the camera pans back, zooms out. And it's at Lamoor, right? I think so.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And there is not There isn't a single person Not moving It is it looks Fucking awesome He sounds incredible The band sounds incredible Isn't Kenny playing?
Starting point is 00:52:41 I can't I don't I think I'm pretty sure Kenny's playing guitar Okay He's got like just a bandana And like he's growing his hair out Or like because he doesn't have full long hair yet And it has been one of my favorite videos since I found out about carnivore.
Starting point is 00:53:00 It is the definitive versions of these songs. I really wish a recording, like a proper recording was done of this, but I'll settle with the weird live bootleg I've got. I listen to this more than I listen to the records. Because of just the way he, the little sprinkles of typo that he adds in there are incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:22 It's one of my favorite videos of all time. I can't believe it wasn't automatically on my list, but I'm glad I'm. I thought about it, but I kind of went pure HC, you know, and like, you can make the argument. Marauder wanted to be them, so I'm going to. You're right, you're right. C. Sharp, like carnivore. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Let's talk about our number one. Here we have my, what I think is the most definitive live hardcore video of all time. Breakdown live at Tompkins Square Park. All right. This is called Kickback. This is a year after the demo, Beau. it's right people are slamming outdoors
Starting point is 00:54:39 and this is another thing where it's a miracle that this exists it exists and it's everyone everyone who is listening to this or watching this who has seen this video knows exactly why it's number one on our list 100%
Starting point is 00:54:56 it is such perfect it's a perfect example of hardcore of live 100% it's something that somebody sat me down to watch at 14 years old, and I'm thankful for. Yeah. And this is our way of doing that to all of you.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I'm sure you're much older than 14. But if you've never seen this before, welcome. Yeah. Welcome to hardcore. It's, they sound identical to the demo. Yeah. Which makes me think the demo was just a raw live recording, which is incredible. Kickback Pit is a graceful war zone.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Jeff doesn't miss a single word. And you witness, like, in real time. the development of a legendary frontman, you know? He sounds great, too. He sounds fucking perfect. I would say, dude, even in 88, you look at how many photographers and, like, and people that are on stage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:48 And I look at that now and I go, thank God. Good point, man. It may say, in the moment, it may be like these fucking photographers. But, dude, you're going to be glad you have the memories someday. And, you know, this is probably the hardcore set that I've watched the most. Yeah. And it's not even particularly insane. No, it's just, but when the Dan, dingin, dan, d'it, and it goes out to the crowd,
Starting point is 00:56:15 and it's, everyone's just, and everyone's moving, dude. And who is, is Chaka in this video? Probably. There's, there's a guy in a purple striped shirt who gets on stage at one point and just skanks for like 30 seconds. I would love it if it was Chaka. I would love it if Chaka was in every single one of these in some way. He's the, he's the, he's like the time hopper.
Starting point is 00:56:38 The common, yeah. Chaco was actually D.B. Cooper as well. This is a perfect video. This is my favorite kind of hardcore, my favorite kind of mosh style. All, like the styles period are awesome. Also, it's a cool thing to know that like Thompson, Thompson Square Park is where. Tompkins. Tompkins Square Park is where punks and homeless people hung out.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And like, that's it. Like, it was the punk place. Yeah. That you could go and hang out and not be, like, bothered. Which is also cool that when shows started happening again, yeah. That's where Madball played. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Post-COVID, the big outdoor comeback hardcore show was there. Was there. People were a little up in arms about it at the time. But, you know, you can look back in hindsight and think that, you know, it was just a celebration of this thing that they missed and loved. Yeah. in a very special, important, historic place. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:39 It's cool to know once you go there, A7 was what the venue is called, right? Where we went? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, A7. Right across the street. Yeah. Like, feet away. Yeah, from time.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yeah. Little hardcore hub, dude, is just where this thing that we know and love was born and developed and prospered. Mike took us there. and they the whole A7 is like a bar now but they keep the back they like preserved it the stage that tiny stage
Starting point is 00:58:14 and we got to go and it was just us it's just me Colin and Mike and yeah I don't think Rob was with us even we just were back there it was awesome that was really and we got ice cream cones at the ice cream place across the street which I guess was the the old head NYHC hangout
Starting point is 00:58:29 that was the move is you go to get an ice cream cone after the gig yeah it's like a like a little That's my kind of hangout. Yes, straight out. And so this is more or less our list, but like, there's so many others. We could make 20 of these episodes. There's-tenths in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:58:47 There's fucking minor threat at the 930 club. Like, there's A-F-I video. Like, we didn't even really get late. I didn't even talk about it. Yeah, this is, I mean, this is, this is, this is 101. Yeah, this is 101. We can do 102. Yes, we can.
Starting point is 00:58:58 The list, there's thousands. We didn't even talk about the No justice video, you know? No. No. You don't have any more? No, that was it. We shared the same number one. That's my favorite one.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Oh. Yeah. It's the best. That's awesome. I know. It's the best one, dude. I feel like we should just put the entire thing right now out after this video. Just fucking.
Starting point is 00:59:21 We'll link it instead. Watch these. Emulate this. Yeah. This is a good blueprint of what to do. This is hardcore. Welcome. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Hello. We'll see you next week. We'll get back to some interviews soon. We just wanted to do something fun, share some things we love. Hardcore is the best thing in the world. I'm going to listen to Breakdown right now. Oh, yeah, I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:59:50 On my way to go, to go, Cannibal Corpse, by the way. Oh, there you go. You know Corp. Granger's probably like, demo rules. Dude, Corp. Corkerner is going to be like, Tompkins? Great set. hardcore's the best and everybody knows it even corpse grinder okay so that was our show this week it was a short one
Starting point is 01:00:13 but my god that i have a blast yeah it's awesome all right thank you all so much for watching we will see you next week bye

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