HardLore - Top 10 Albums of All Time

Episode Date: January 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Number nine is Marauder Master Killer. Mm-hmm. We're going to have to wait to talk about that. Obviously, this is on your top 10. We'll wait to talk about it. It's a good episode. Hello, welcome, and happy New Year, everybody. Wow.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I know. It is 25. It's absolutely sickening, but here we are. We, how are you both? Thank you. So I was going to say I'm doing well. Thank you. Today's James' birthday
Starting point is 00:00:52 For everyone watching So go bother him about that I mean I was Happy birthday James, I guess I don't know So if you see him around Chicago Give him a can of Coke
Starting point is 00:01:05 He needs it Guys, this is This is a big one It's a big one We've made a huge mistake Today in this episode that we've picked But we're sticking to it It's one of the more difficult things
Starting point is 00:01:17 We've ever actually done Ever have to do this was totally by choice so we could have just not done it but here we are because we're here to make these difficult decisions and get this stuff out there
Starting point is 00:01:27 and just, you know, canonize these things because today this is the official Hard lore Top Ten albums of all time episode. This is my picks for top 10, Bose picks for top 10.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And this is not restricted to any one genre. This is cross genre. This is all, this is music. Yeah. And, you know, I've gone over this 15 times I've changed it 15 times but also I kept in mind that like gut instinct
Starting point is 00:01:58 has to be accounted for yeah but then what what happened was I told you last night I went through all my vinyl because my my thinking was if I own it on vinyl I probably like really like it if I otherwise just couldn't find it and there was a couple that I didn't have and I was like
Starting point is 00:02:14 oh this is this is a top 10 record and I had to bump a couple it was brutal I mean I I have 10 honorable mentions off the rip. I can just rifle through if you do too. I have 10 also. We can go back to back because it's just interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I want to, I'm very curious. How core heavy is your top 10? Not super. There's a couple. Okay. There's really technically none, but like, hair splitting a couple. Okay. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I just thought of another one. Oh, my God. This is going to be so hard. It's hard, but we got to just do it. Yeah, I didn't put any... This changes every day. This changes every single day, but at time of recording... Right.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And at time of watching, which for you is January 2nd, 2025... It makes me sick. My first... Let's just blow through these. Like, not much detail, and I'm sorry if I say one that's on your list. That's fine. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, same.
Starting point is 00:03:14 My first honorable mention, the cranberries to the faithful departed. Mine was break down the walls. You did today. Love it. Second honorable mention Danzig, too. Okay. Second is age of quarrel. Love it.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Third honorable mention misfits, 12 fits from home. Wow. Yeah. That's surprising. Oh, yeah. Third for me was a life less plagued. When I went knee jerk, it was really hard for me to not put it in there. But I just know that I'm not being a, like, I'm not being factual.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Totally. But I love that record. Same here for this, which is only living witness, pro immortal form, my next honorable mention. Wow. I think you're going to hear my top 10, you're going to go, yeah. Okay. Yeah, probably for me too. My next one
Starting point is 00:04:00 was pretty hate machine by 9 inch nails. That was, I know that was hard. And hurt, dude. Yeah. My next honorable mention is Van Halen 1984. What a mention. And like, dude, and the thing is this is favorite, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah, yeah. This isn't best because like are these 10 records I'm about to pick better than 1984? Like no. Right. But I guess I like them more. Totally. No, and that's that's exactly how you have to do it. You got to do it.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It would be interesting to do an objective best record. What's the best out? What's the best one? You know, I guess because is it record sales? This is not opinion. These are the best. My next one is satisfaction is the death of desire. My next one is satisfaction is the death of desire.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'm actually shocked that that's in your honorable mentions. Me too, but you'll get it. Yeah, okay. My next one is Danzig One. Love it. Yeah. Love it. My next one is Black Sabbath sabotage. I didn't put any Black Sabbath.
Starting point is 00:05:05 My next one is Sepultero KSAD. Painful. Agony. That was tough to cut. It was tough to cut. It's agony. You know, I listened to 100 albums. a week regularly, you know? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Like, my favorite music is, I got about a thousand albums, I love. But narrowing the sound of ten is impossible, but we did it. And it may be not right, but we'll get that. My next one is AFI sing the sorrow, honorable mention.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Damn. That's a perfect piece of music. These next three honorable mentions are, as you just said, perfect pieces of music that are truly like, any given day could probably swap into the top ten. Like, they're that close. Disintegration by the cure.
Starting point is 00:05:49 My next one is Oasis, be here now. I didn't put any Oasis on. Which I just realized. And it hurt. When we started recording, I just realized that. And it's like, that's better than most things. You know? My next one was the first Crosby Still's and Nash self-titled record, which I've...
Starting point is 00:06:07 Cool. It's a recent love. You love that one. But I love it. God, do I love it? My last one is, this was like number 10 and I bumped it. Yeah. Silver Sun pickups swooned.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Really? People don't know. I'm a pickup man. I had no idea. I think they're one of the greatest American rock bands of this century. Interesting. One of the greatest British rock bands is the Rolling Stones and Beggars Banquet was my very top honorable mention. That got bumped off of the list. There's literally, without spoilers, there's a line crossed through.
Starting point is 00:06:39 There we go. So that was our honorable mentions. It felt like killing all of your best friends at the same time. It's most of the core, which sucks. Yeah. Yeah. It sucks. But we're being like, I can't listen to hardcore all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Sure. I just can't. Hey, we listen to all music, but we are hardcore kids. Of course. But this top 10. To who we are. It ain't what we're always. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Spin it. But we're here to appreciate it. My number 10. Number 10, best favorite record of all time. Colin Young's number 10, all-time favorite record. This is fucked. Okay, so here we go. These are Bowenai's 10 favorite albums ever.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Ever. My number 10 is River Runs Red by Life of Agony. Interesting. Yeah, that's core. I'd call that core. That's core. And I think the reason it's so important and why it's number 10 to me is it established so much of what core can be. I got you.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I didn't second guess that it was hardcore. Yeah. I got a couple of those. I didn't second guess that there's somehow, ideologically, no difference between life of agony and youth today. You know? Got you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:01 It's the same thing. It sounds completely different, but somehow, to the heart, it's the same. One guy's wearing a fedora, and it's still the same somehow. I don't know. I don't ask, you know? Dude, always with a fedora, never with sleeves. Just the color of sleeves. Never with sleeves, the Misfits shirt.
Starting point is 00:08:18 It is what it is. You know, I love this album. It established so much of who I am. It kept me alive for a few years. Some could say, obviously influenced me musically greatly personally, just in terms of my output. I can't imagine never hearing it again. And I continue to be inspired by it. That's a good way to look at this list, is what records could you not bear to never hear again?
Starting point is 00:08:48 And those last, the 10 overall mentions are all those. So it's really fucking hard. All right. My number 10 that I remembered last night, because I own it, and I bumped Rolling Stones off. Allison Chain's Jarful Flies. And now listen, this is an EP. Yeah. This is like kind of, no rules here.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah, you're right. Exactly. But like, I'm fully aware that I'm giving a top 10 spot to essentially four songs. Right. because there's like the weird swing song and then there's the one song I really don't like on this record. Sure. Like this is a record that has skips for me. But four songs, four perfect songs to you that you deeply resonate is sometimes.
Starting point is 00:09:38 That's all you need versus a 10, 14, 15 song album. In my darkest days, this was a record that I, for better or for worse, I played. I would say, Alexa, good morning. and she would start playing and it would be doodle doodle doodle little every which is just the fucking most darkest most oppressive way to wake up I could possibly imagine every single thing that was that was dark bow
Starting point is 00:10:04 yeah that was dark bow that was that was dark times but like I adore this record I love sap I love the MTV unplugged how they kind of combine everything so I'm like I'm and I love all Allison chains but this one in particular got me good This is you. Dirt is a pretty big omission for me.
Starting point is 00:10:24 God damn. Brutal. Yeah, my number nine is like hilarious. In the context of our show, I'm obviously, I'm going to wait, but it's funny. My number nine is, I think, the best piece of electronic music ever recorded. Cool. And it's because there's tons of guitar. It was, the band was seasoned.
Starting point is 00:10:45 They've been a band for 10 years. They finally broke through and made it work with the outside. album violator. This is Depeche Mode. Reach out of space. This is banger after banger after banger after banger after banger and I think one of the greatest examples of sequencing.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah. Magic. Yeah. Because you open perfectly and waiting for the night and enjoy the silence is maybe the greatest album transition in history. You got Halo, you got policy of truth. When policy of truth kicks on, it's impossible for me to
Starting point is 00:11:22 sit still. I'm moving. Yeah, I'm bopping. I'm moving. This is a huge emission for me. Massive. You can't believe it. I can't believe. I can't believe I forgot about violator. This is ridiculous. Yeah, this, maybe it's hopefully no surprise to anybody. We love Depeche Mode. They are songwriting engineers. Yeah. I can only describe them. Yeah. And it really don't get any better than this for this kind of music, period. I fully agree. I know. All right. Number nine, which for me
Starting point is 00:11:59 is within the context of this show and how much we put this fucking record over. Number nine is Marauder Master Killer. I am the Master Killer. We're going to have to wait to talk about that. Obviously, this is on your top ten.
Starting point is 00:12:19 We'll wait to talk about it. It's a quick episode. All right. My number eight is, this may be sacrilegious to anyone over 50 years old, maybe. But this is, to me, the greatest doom metal album of all time. And you'll see throughout this list, it's like the anatomy of me, you know? and to me something a band so influential
Starting point is 00:12:54 so meaningful so powerful so theatrical which you know damn well I love the band is candle mass the album is nightfall beautiful I was wondering because I know you celebrate the whole catalog
Starting point is 00:13:15 I really do and I was wondering which one yeah etc I was just wondering which one was going to be the one. It's got to be niceful. I mean, I love Epicus, but I just think Messiah, like, made the band. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Which, again, the 60-year-olds hate me for thinking that. Right. I'm right. Messiah, just a literal vocal god. It's crazy. A melody, God, a master. Even the way that he sings Leif's songs, I think the guy's name is, is superior in every way. I don't know what the fuck I would be or do without
Starting point is 00:13:56 without ever hearing candle mass again Interesting What are those? You have tidbits that people probably haven't heard that I love about Didn't you try it over the phone? He auditioned over the phone, crushed it. Think about it. Got there and they were like, yeah, this is the fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Performed with hamburgers in his robe So they would be warm by the time they finished. This is our guy. This is the guy. This is it. He is Mr. Hardlore. Messiah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Messiah is Mr. Hardlore. All right. Beautiful answer. Good answer. Thank you. Thank you. I'm wondering now, I imagine so, but number eight for me is Fleetwood Mac rumors. Not on mine.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Okay. It's in the top 30, it probably would be. Okay. This record, I think, has one. skip. It's the piano lady one of her, oh, daddy. I don't like that song personally. If you
Starting point is 00:15:06 include Silver Springs on this, because it was from that session and blah, blah, and I'm, I didn't like grow up like a Mac head, you know, I really, it wasn't, it was kind of something I've discovered in my 20s, I suppose. I just can't believe
Starting point is 00:15:24 how incredible the songwriter, specifically the songwriter is Lindsay Buckingham's guitar playing on like that that never going to go with that the song that's just him do dund dan bapum badda da da da padda it's one guitar psycho and he's singing over it it's fucking crazy that's impossible only him and hetfield only could pull that off so two rhythm goats i love that record i listen to it that's a that's like a oh we got three hours from the show to the hotel that goes on and then also on top of all of that is knowing all the lore knowing all the drama
Starting point is 00:15:58 going on with the record. Dude, VH1 classics is like an amazing series and they do it on there's a ton. There's ACE of Spades never mind, you know, and there's a rumors episode. There's a rumors one and it's so fucking
Starting point is 00:16:14 good because it has them all, like they're all separate and they're all playing their shit and kind of talking about it. Right. Man, it's intense. I think this was something that upon discovering it, my first thought was like, oh, a lot of music sucks.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. Compared to the shit like this. Yes, dude. Like 70s guitar music is pretty tough to beat. Just like the greatest rippers in history. All living in Laurel Canyon. Yeah. And just, yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:16:48 And just creating the best shit, you know. Game over. Great pick. It was hard to omit for me, but I had to go with my gut here. here we go number seven and you know the man may be a nonce he may be a right prick
Starting point is 00:17:09 he may be a wank Morrissey and and which album do I think where do I go here we're either going to have to wait to talk about it or we're good I don't think we are okay I think I went with my gut and I think I know what yours is
Starting point is 00:17:26 mine is you are the quarry First up the gang with a gun in his hand And the first to do time Beautiful, yeah, we're good Talk about it Jerry Finn You know, this guy Does bad religion
Starting point is 00:17:39 AFI All kinds of punk Great punk music Then he gets to make this record From Morrissey in 2004 And it's Fucking A piece of like
Starting point is 00:17:54 Sonic engineering masterpiece Oh dude It sounds. It sounds perfect. Perfect, yeah. You can say what you will about the album opener, but then it is just nonstop. America is not the world is the open.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Song rocks, dude. Song rocks, but a lot of people skip. Really? I don't. Yeah, not me. I'll shove that hamburger right at my ass. Yeah, dude, I love that song. I'm all in.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I can't get enough of this thing to this day. I think it is like many of the best hooks ever written all in a row. intelligently sung you don't know what he's talking about half the time but then by the next line you figured it all out he doesn't waste
Starting point is 00:18:39 word it doesn't waste a single syllable on this thing if he says a line he's like that was a great line I'm going to say that shit again so that they really understand this thing is perfect man it's a great record it's inspiring to me as a songwriter as a lyricist as a crooner, as a sad guy, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:00 There's something here for everybody. Dude, I think wasn't Irish Blood English Heart on my hard songs list? Like, this song or this record has, dude, everything from like poppy to sad to like kind of hard and kind of like, yeah, fuck you. Well, isn't, is the last song, you know, I wouldn't last, or you know I couldn't last?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Is that this record? Is that yours refusal? No, I believe it's that one. It is this one. Yours refusal is I'm okay by myself, which is fucking insane. Which was also Jerry Finn. That was Jerry Finn's last album he ever did. Really?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yeah. Oh, he did. So he did like every Blink 282 record, too. Okay. Literal God. Yeah, just a master. That record, user refusal sounds really good. Sounds nuts, dude.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And it was his last one. That was his coup de grace. Dude, Black Cloud. Black Cloud. Insane. Yeah, what a record. Holy shit. Good pick.
Starting point is 00:20:00 This is so hard. Yeah. Ready? Yeah. My number seven is from a little band in California called Slayer. The album I went with is rain and blood. Yeah. That's the one.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Like people will say, people will take like a stance and be like, I'm a South of Heaven guy or I'm a seasoned guy. And like. Slayer guy, bitch. Yeah. straight up. And for me, that record, I still don't understand how they did it. There are some of these records you can kind of like trace and you can see like, okay, well, this is like kind of a folk thing or whatever. You can kind of, I have no idea how this was changed everything. Like, and they didn't, Slayer were so unique in that like, I don't, they,
Starting point is 00:20:55 like, they didn't care about who, like, how they were perceived. or like... I think once the makeup came off, that was the case, maybe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it was just like, okay, so we're clearly the best. Right, we're the best one.
Starting point is 00:21:12 So let's do something that none of these other ones can do. I think rain and blood is the best thrash metal album, period. Hands down. Like no joke. It's not my favorite one, but it is the best one.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And I do think that's an objective truth. I love that you say that. And I know what's coming, so I love that you say that. Dave Lombardo, the greatest metal drummer in history. Pay him, bring him back. He plays metal like a punk guy, and that's why it works. That's why it works. He's in the goddamn misfits now.
Starting point is 00:21:46 The man gets it. You've got Hanaman, the real king, you know? And Tom, just absolutely always holding it down. holding it down and like, I don't know, dude, some of the, like, little tags and, like, I think of, like, ultra sacrifice, where it's like, like, like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, dula, dula,
Starting point is 00:22:07 like, just like the little, little pickups and stuff that they chose to write, tuning a little half step lower, like, all the cool shit, like, I, and Carrie, and Jeff's writing, being so similar and,
Starting point is 00:22:22 and cohesive and still having, like, their own little identity, each one. Yeah, yeah. Just so special, man. There's never been another Slayer And I like I love these first few Slayer records
Starting point is 00:22:36 So much that it like Makes me not Like a ton of other thrash metal A hundred percent I know I know exactly what you mean Because there's just like a Holy shit To all of these records
Starting point is 00:22:49 There's like a thing where it's just like I remember it's like the Sopranos You know It kind of is like the Sopranos I don't I don't need to see another mob story The Sopranos did it Yeah, they did it. It reminds me of your brother learned to play every song on Rain and Blood.
Starting point is 00:23:05 He sure did. And that was very impressive to me. And downpick, like, play it correctly. Yeah. It's very impressive. He, him doing that, there's Slayer Riffs and everything now. Yeah, sure. Well, learning, doing something like that is like, oh, I learned a new, it's not, it's not like a scale.
Starting point is 00:23:21 It's like a, oh, I learned a new jump. Yeah, yeah, right. Oh, you put this one after this one and then it does that. Okay, cool. And then also last thing I'll say I truly think apart from some Black Sabbath riff that I
Starting point is 00:23:35 maybe don't know, I think Raining Blood might be the first overt like breakdown. Chug I mean where does that that if you really think about that piece of music and when it came out
Starting point is 00:23:51 no one else was doing that. Why were they doing that? We've got to trace it. We've got to figure it out. We got to figure it out. But I think The anatomy of a breakdown for now, we believe the Slayers now. Yeah. Wow. Number seven, Rain and Blood.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Outstanding. My number six is, I said Nightfall was the best Doom Metal album of all time. And I think this transcends Doom Middle. It's so much more. I could show this to my mom tomorrow, and she'd be like, this is such an incredible piece of music, buddy. Thanks for showing me. Um, five songs, one hour. That's what it's all about to me.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I don't need a minute long, fast thing. Yeah. I want a journey. Give me a fantasy role-playing RPG as a five-song album, you know? Mm-hmm. Which is exactly what watching from a distance by warning is. One of your most heralded records, I would say. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I like not a second is wasted on this thing and you like you have it's it's like Elden Ring where upon first glance upon first listen you might not get everything but you read that you look through the descriptions you listen to every single little note and riff and choice they make and it's just like it's filled with such intent and purpose and power and emotion it's sad it's head it's so sad, dude. But you need that. It's fucking, it's fuel. It's, it's, it's, it's ammo. Yeah. For you to keep rocking. Because somebody feels as
Starting point is 00:25:43 shitty or shittier than you do. Where are they from? Morning. UK. Really? Yeah. Didn't know that. It's raining all the time. Yeah, right. You know? He's fucking raining. He's fronying his dog.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Damn! You know, that's the, It's a natural progression. And that's the greatest bridge in the history of music. So footprints. So I had to represent it on the best albums ever. There is some, like this is one that I knew was going to be on there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I'm sure I have several. But yeah, this was one. Had to. Good answer. Number six, for me, my favorite punk band, I think the most influential punk band of all time, the misfits. I went with Static Age. that makes sense yeah
Starting point is 00:26:35 thank you tom b for making it happen straight up um i like god damn dude i like the creepy songs i like the ding ding ding ding ding ding
Starting point is 00:26:45 ding ding ding i like those kind of things i love tv casualties I love the song static age like think about how how static age starts there's like that ring it's just like so unique
Starting point is 00:26:59 it's so creepy another one of those things where you just think how did you know to do that? How the fuck did you know that? And why didn't you put this out when you recorded it in 1978? How insane is that? What are you waiting for?
Starting point is 00:27:18 And if people were arguing in the episode like they were young punks with no money, what the fuck you're talking about? Jerry lived in a mansion. Glenn put out one billion seven-inch singles just put out of a fucking LP instead. you could have saved the world with this thing in 78. You can make the argument that's like, oh yeah, they were young.
Starting point is 00:27:38 They probably didn't have money except for they obviously had money. They had a label and a mansion and a homemade guitar. Static Age is the best punk album ever. I think so. I think so. I think it's literally that and like and out come the wolves. Like those are like the two. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:03 Yeah, those are the generational milestones. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. 70s, static age, 80s, bad brains? Yeah, probably. I'm a rock for like guy. 90s. Rancet.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah, I love it. Easy. And bad religion. What's up? Yeah. What more can we say about them? This is the best man. We talk about it all the goddamn time.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I know you guys are sick of hearing them. But please. please, if you haven't, just listen to this record. They've got it. They've heard it. You've heard it? My number five, polar opposite. We're talking the best punk band ever. Then I naturally, as a fan of pop music, have to talk about the king
Starting point is 00:28:51 and the greatest pop album of all time. This single record is the reason I appreciate or care about pop music at all. It has, I think, tied for the most number one hits in history on any album. Yeah. It is Quincy Jones P.S de Resistence. The album is bad by Michael Jackson. I love.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And one of the first things I ever knew about you was that you were a big Michael Jackson guy. Huge. Like way back when we first met. And I've always... Went to the memorial and everything. That's right. I've always been a big Michael Jackson guy, too, because of my dad. So I really
Starting point is 00:29:37 agree with you that like this deserves to be on there. It's got to be. How old were you when you found it? I'm early teens probably. Okay. So I'm like listening to Morbin Angel and Michael Jackson back to back.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Yeah. And that's like, I'm like, I figured out who I am. And what I like. And these two things. The song, it's a deep cut, but the song, not a deep cut, because it's probably a hit,
Starting point is 00:30:03 but like in terms of this record and the general populi Speed Demon Yeah The song There's a bass The thing in the chorus Speed demon
Starting point is 00:30:12 Boodoo de laudu bedde It has to be synthesized, right? 100%. Okay, okay. Everything on there is other than Michael.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Thriller is like not synthesized. Yeah, Thriller's instruments. It's Toto rocking in studio literally in Van Nuys with this microphone
Starting point is 00:30:34 Bad is like Quincy Jones being like Shut the fuck up I'm gonna admit I got this Yeah yeah and my god It is it this is the most This is maybe the most thoroughbo Thoroughly listenable album in history I'm a thriller guy
Starting point is 00:30:52 You know And just but like it has The girl is mine I love that skip No dude I don't mind the way There's a couple others. What is the track list?
Starting point is 00:31:06 How does Thriller start? Want to be starting something? Bangor. Banger, obviously. PYT, banger. PYT is unreal. Yeah. I think there's, I think there's only, I don't like Billy Jean personally, but I understand.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I mean, it's it rocks, obviously, but it's just not my cup. Bad, I think, is just him being like, I'm Michael. This is me. These are my, this is 10. perfect songs. Take it or leave it. And the world took it. Five year gap. That's crazy. And delivered perseverance level fall as we've said. That's great.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Good answer. I mean, we're getting it. This is number five. This is fucked. We're getting into like, like this next record is the reason I picked up a guitar. I mean, it's that level of like foundational. I love Led Zeppelin. I've always loved Led Zeppelin. There's a lot of good Zeppelin records. Kind of only good Zeppelin records. A lot of people might pick one, might pick three or four.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I'm a Houses of the Holy guy. Yeah, you really are. Houses of the Holy was just, my dad put it on one time, and I was immediately into it. No Quarter is one of their heaviest songs. Crowbar Carvers did it. rocks, over the hills far away, it rocks. The ocean
Starting point is 00:32:41 dancing days, front to back. I love this fucking record. And I've probably listened to it more, probably more than any record, I think. When I was a kid, I would come home from school, put it on, and play my little Les Paul studio, thinking I was playing right, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And then looking at a video and being like, what the fuck? What the fuck is he doing? Yeah. This is like guitar music milestone. Yeah, I don't even know where it is. Like, I don't know the timeline of their discography very well. I imagine it goes one through four and then beyond. But wherever it was, it just seems like everyone was really the ocean, dude. And bam, bang, I don't know, black dog.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah. Come on. Generational. Whoops. Talk about a moment. What's up, guys. You know who it is. I didn't mean Black Dog
Starting point is 00:33:38 I meant the rain song I know Black Dog's not on this record I meant the rain song Beautiful lovely rain song House of the Holy What's up with practice I mean it's got them all It's got them all
Starting point is 00:33:50 It's got everything I love And truly this was the reason Where literally my dad put this on a bunch And I remember that summer school Was starting up again I was playing the Coronet trumpet Oh And I was talking to him about
Starting point is 00:34:05 next year in school and like school band and stuff and he was like well I was thinking maybe I would want to play like an oboe or something just like different I think the you know blah on he was like if you walked into a room and there was an obo in one corner and a guitar and the other where are you going to go and I was like a guitar and like the House of the Holy was playing while we're having this conversation you know and that was that was it I got a strap right then that interaction yeah single like singularly changed your life. 100%.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I've never forgotten about that. Wow. Yeah. So House of the Holy That's pretty cool. Lens up, Lundit.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Common R. Rare Dad W. Yeah, there we go. Old Danny Boy. Rare Bose Dad W. My number four.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Oh, Lord. Here we go. Yeah, we're getting into it. Yeah, this is Fox. It's my favorite band of all time. Which is well documented.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Now, and then it came time to pick an album, you know? And I've said different things on this show, different records by this band or my favorite record by this band. The band is typo negative. Okay. And this was my gut.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I had to go with my gut. Yeah. And that was the one that got me. Yeah. The very first one I ever heard and the very first one they ever wrote, slow, deep, and hard. Great pick. Because I also have one, but it's a different one. so we can talk about both.
Starting point is 00:35:42 And dude, this, I'm seeing a common thread here. Because this and Nightfall are like six songs. And watching for a distance, five songs. Oh, good point. But an hour long because there's other little things sprinkled in there. Your brother once broke it down to me that slow deep and hard, each song is a chapter about kind of processing what happened to him. He got cheated on.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And it's like finding out killing her, killing him, or finding out blaming the guy, killing her, killing him, killing himself. Those are the chapters.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And then also, if you think about it, each song kind of has little, like, uh, axe in it. Yeah. And they're,
Starting point is 00:36:30 they're kind of subdivided in that way. That is like, and it tells the story with brilliantly with such like tongue and cheek, rare nuance. It's so unique. And like their inspirations are all there, you know? Misfits, Kiss, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd. It's all there.
Starting point is 00:36:50 But done in such a unique way that like no band has ever, after I've ever been able to replicate it. And this is still very much like 40% a straight up hardcore record. Oh, yeah. It's the unsuccessfully coping is like all the way through. It's just hardcore. That's hardcore music. I...
Starting point is 00:37:13 Until it's not. I love this record. I kind of got... I started with the one I'll talk about later and I kind of worked my way outward in either direction. And when I found this, and specifically gravity,
Starting point is 00:37:26 once you get to gravity, which is kind of the payoff of this whole thing, it's... Totally. One more time, won't matter, no question,
Starting point is 00:37:33 suicide, and self-expression is the last thing he says. And then there's... And then he's dead. And canonically. Unless you have the version with the Jimmy Hendrix cover, which rocks, by the way. Hey, Peter.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Dude, Kenny. Kenny just. Yeah, Peter. That's the other thing is you get this bonus live version of this thing. That's better. Yeah, yeah. It's so good. Man, I love that record.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I have that. I have an original VHS tape and original vinyl of that. Beautiful. Yeah, this is. This is my fourth favorite album in history. That I'll stamp, you know? I got no second thoughts of reservations, but I knew this was on there as soon as I started.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Good, yeah. This band absolutely changed my life. Altered the course of my creative existence. Always will. There's always going to be a little typo in whatever I do. RIP, Pete. Yeah. Yeah, I've got to get some of them on the show.
Starting point is 00:38:38 this year. I'd love to. I'd love to. My number four is the nonce is back. The nutta. He's back. Yeah. It is a Morrissey record.
Starting point is 00:38:51 It's Vox Hall and I. That is the one for me. It's got everything. I would say, I would think the majority would agree. Yeah. Hold on your friends. Hold on to your friends.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Speedway. That guitar That That guitar, that B'nan Beanie deen is so lovely And just like comforting
Starting point is 00:39:19 It is And then it like Devastatingly builds To the fucking Just like And that's him being like I don't need you Johnny I got goons
Starting point is 00:39:33 You know I got Boz I got goons doing your shit Bitch Yeah Yeah Uh Brilliantly
Starting point is 00:39:40 Why don't you find out For yourself Is on there Oh my god dude like literally there are the sanest days are mad there's i think um people billy bud is number two i think and then it's so billy bud and then there's um spring hill gym which i think people skip spring hill jim a lot i love that song i love the samples yeah and i catch him and i say he's mail um but yeah speedway closing that record which felt like
Starting point is 00:40:13 like the like the ultimate culmination and it was almost cut do you know that it was like not a key he was comfortable in insane yeah it is high and when you say yeah it's not that bad he's got harsh though he does it all the time so I don't know he's just a weirdo but that song
Starting point is 00:40:33 ends in such a perfect beautiful way in my own in my own sick way I'll always be true to you I'll always be true to you I'll always be true. Yeah, that's, that's a lyrical Mount Rushmore for show. For sure. It's on your body forever.
Starting point is 00:40:49 It is. So that's cool. Yeah, this, this record like broke me in high school. I also think it's sonically perfect, too. I think it's, oh, yeah. Like, there's, it is real. There is nothing I would change about this record. And this was one where when we decided to do this list, I knew this was going on.
Starting point is 00:41:08 It was just a matter of where. For sure. Yeah. This, if it wasn't. for Quarry, this would be on here. The one. And I don't even think necessarily that Quarry is better than this. It's just
Starting point is 00:41:20 what I like. Yeah, right. Right. Makes no sense what we do, but we do it anyway. All right, top three. Oh, Morrissey, you fucking scum bag. Wouldn't it just be awesome if he was awesome? If he was just
Starting point is 00:41:36 cool and normal? We would have such an easy existence. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten worse, to be honest with you. I think he did, and that's why that record... I think the record is just slur. The new one is just slur after slur after slur.
Starting point is 00:41:54 The record is called slurs. And Capital just won't put it out, which I understand. But don't you have enough money to do it yourself at this point, Stephen? Yeah, right. Stephen Patrick. Not you, Stephen, editor. Stephen P. Morrissey.
Starting point is 00:42:11 You scummed. back. My number three is Master Killer by Marauder. Let's talk about it. Yeah, let's get into it. Where did you discover this? Was this Taylor? This was Taylor. I think I was 13. Yeah. And I think Taylor was like, I think you'll like this type thing.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Or was playing it and I was like, that's pretty good. And I would say maybe six months later, I revisited it again privately. And then I don't think I'd listen to anything else for a year. And then again, again, I did that every year, where every year I'd rediscover it. And then once I started really writing music and diving into like, you know, the genealogy of where things start, where they come from, lyrics vocals writing lyrics and all that this was just everything I'd ever been looking for
Starting point is 00:43:17 I've talked about this I've talked about this before a friend who passed away gave me a burn CD with AJ Quarrel and Master Killer on it and AJ Quarle was first and I immediately liked it even though there were guitar solas I remember it was like kind of a thing that like this is like two metal because there's like we gotta know it has a solo in it you
Starting point is 00:43:38 know I what's so funny is like there was a kid at my high school who had the same sentiment and it always confused me yeah his his name was chris martinez shout out to chris martinez he would be he loved he loved he loved harkor he loved all kinds of things and you'd be like i like a lot of hard i love harker man but like solos are just kind of white trash to me which which like very was such a valley thing to say yeah yeah it did it did it just screamed it screamed like rock star so i was like i was avert but there was such an aura about this record that I was like, well, I'll just give it a shot. And obviously I ended up loving it. When I put on Master Killer, I was like, oh, this is two, this is definitely two metal.
Starting point is 00:44:21 This is metal. But that same CD I had and when I did revisit it, I just let it play in my car. I just, I realized, A, how absolutely perfect it sounds. Yeah. how incredibly heavy both the lyrics and every like there's nothing in there that is not so intentional yeah that whole record front to back is like this is this is for all you fuckers in the pit like every second every second and Jorge's vocal performance is oh dude um is amongst the greatest in history yeah all time this is we've gone on and
Starting point is 00:45:04 on and on. We've made it a fucking Patreon tier. Adjective Patreon tier. This record is part of us at this point. This is the third best album ever to me. All right. My number three
Starting point is 00:45:20 is typo negative. Is October Rust. Yeah. October. I expected that. I had heard Black number one in Christian Woman and I was like, okay, I kind of like, whatever. and I saw my girlfriend's girlfriend on like the music video.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And I'll never forget, it was, we're at somebody's house and there were like older hardcore dudes there. And they were like, yo, this is the guy who wrote like AF records. And I was like, I literally said, yeah, but this sucks. Like what, you know, I didn't, I didn't get it. I did not connect with me. But I never listened to the record. And the second love you to death came on when I really sat down in my 20s and gave it a just the first. For second.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah. Fucked me. I'm the biggest fool. And then straight into druidus. And like, it's just like, dude. I had the same experience with my girlfriend's girlfriend video on MTVX. Taylor and I. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Because it played constantly. All the time. Yeah. All the time. And Taylor always had the blue grape catalogs and would be like, they have to be good. Because their shirts are the best. Yeah. The best ones in the catalog.
Starting point is 00:46:37 But it took some time But once we were both teenagers It was and earlier I think I was 12 when we both really like Wow Did the dive And I've never looked back And don't get me wrong
Starting point is 00:46:52 I love my girlfriend's girlfriend now Like I think that's that song fucking rocks But yeah From from that to green man to fucking Wolf Moon It's just I mean It's incredible
Starting point is 00:47:06 It's incredible It's such a perfect I guess it's not technically a sophomore record Is it? But it's like the follow up to their big record. Yeah. And it's which we're going to talk about again in a second. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:17 and that's the pressure was on, dude. Because you got, Boy Kisses opens with two fucking smash hits in a row. And then they, and then I would think, I think October Rust underperformed technically. It did. It only went gold.
Starting point is 00:47:33 And I read a thing with Josh where they said, he said that my girlfriend's girlfriend was written to be the first single because whoever put it out, I guess it was Roadrunner, didn't think they didn't think anything was strong enough. The band wanted to do Love You to Death, but they didn't think a ballad was a good idea. So they wrote it like during the recording and that became the single. And they attribute that to it underperforming, which possibly. I mean, listen to both of our stories. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:03 We saw that video and we're like, this can't be for us. This can't be good. Yeah. So they were Roadrunner, rare Roadrunner L for the 90s. For the 90s, yeah. All right. Number two. It's top two time.
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Starting point is 00:50:40 So you better act fast. Do it now. Happy New Year. Okay, it's top two time. This is serious stuff. Yeah. And to piggyback off of what you were just talking about, in terms of follow-ups to smash hits that maybe didn't meet expectations
Starting point is 00:51:01 because, I don't know, they were too intelligently written or put together and went over people's heads. I think, and this is not technically their sophomore record, but it is the sophomore record with this vocalist. The band is Faith No More. The album is Angel Dust. Few things compare, few things come close. in terms of just like sheer re-enjoyability. This record is a chameleon.
Starting point is 00:51:47 There's no one genre. There's no one pigeonhole. It is just pure creative music. It's freedom, dude. It is sonic freedom. It is an incredible example of there being absolutely no rules in music. Wow. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:52:04 It's melodic. It's fun. Yeah. It's beautiful. Beautiful. Everything's ruined. Beautiful song. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Fucking malpractice. Crazy song. Scary. Kindergarten. What is he talking about? I don't know. Football. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:19 I don't know. But I love it. The cover. The cover. Possibly better than the original. I agree. It's crazy. Lionel might too.
Starting point is 00:52:29 You know? Yeah. They still play it to this day. And they, them playing that at all, recording it and doing it is like, a fuck you to expectations. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:52:40 I was like, oh, yeah, you want us to cover Slayer? Here's Lionel. Yeah. Here's the confidence. Kiss my ass. Yeah, it's amazing. And Mike Patton is Mount Rushmore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Vocal users, you know? Yeah, he, he, what's funny is people who know vaguely about music. Just beyond, like, yeah, I listen to music. People who, like, know about stuff. Everyone knows that Mike Patton is like the guy. The guy, I think he was like scientifically measured like vocal range in male rock
Starting point is 00:53:15 singers. Yeah, yeah. And it's like him and Axel Rose neck and neck. Or he might be over him. I don't know. But man, hearing this thing, discovering Angel Dust, I smoke this motherfucker every day to this day. 2015, we were on a tour with Leo and Baker. Leo played bass, I think,
Starting point is 00:53:37 harm's way. And Baker was doing merch with us. We called it a one a day and they would play Angel Dust once a day in the band. And they ain't right without it sometimes. Dude, what a fucking record. That's perfect. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:53:51 It's a great, great pick. Number two. Wow. Yeah. All right, my number two pick, it's no surprise. These are not going to be surprises anywhere. I love this little freaky witch.
Starting point is 00:54:06 she's my favorite. Ah. She's the queen of all music. Yeah. When I first heard homogenic by Bjork, it changed what I thought about music. And I'm not, I'm not being hyperbolic about it. I legitimately was like very much into guitar and very much into,
Starting point is 00:54:32 and my mom always had Bjork CDs. And then this one came out and I listened to it. And from the start, it like, it feels cold. sounds cold. Lord knows what she's talking about. The song Unravel is one of the most beautiful songs ever written, in my opinion. And it's just like song four. It's just kind of a deep cut, not really in there.
Starting point is 00:54:54 There will never be another. No. God, no. Who comes close? Nobody. Grimes for a minute, I guess, but it's just still not anywhere near the same. Grimes is actually a really good comparison because she was producing her own music and can sing really well.
Starting point is 00:55:10 But Bjork is just like so beyond. I mean, you're talking. I mean, she didn't grow up in like the Icelandic hellscape that Bjork grew up in. Yeah. She's a fucking freak and so open about that and just like, yeah, I don't care. I'm me. And like she's just, she's the coolest to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Sugar cubes were kind of a punk band. So that's kind of cool too. That was her band before her solo shit. Totally. she produced all of her own stuff with this pair of brothers and blah blah blah but i've never seen her she's she's my number one uh like i've ever told you about our older brother aaron's like icelandic escapade no where he went a little crazy for a minute and like moved to iceland basically for like six months oh shit and like hung out with bork's mom a few times and i don't know he could
Starting point is 00:56:06 be lying about all this, by the way, but it's a pretty cool lie, if so. And I guess at one point, saw Bjork do a full Joy Division set. Whoa. Which is really cool. There's a, there's, I've seen video of her doing level terrorists apart. Well, I've seen that. And it's in Iceland. There we go. Crazy. But yeah, I love Bjork. You know what's funny? My first connection with Bjork was, uh, K-Y-2K, they go to Iceland. And they play hyperbats. or something, I think, during just like a montage of them fucking around in Iceland. And that was my first, like, oh, I liked that. And I didn't know why.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And I was in fourth grade, fifth grade. Right. But I just didn't know, you know. But, yeah. CKY is one of those Tony Hawk-esque. Very much so. CKY and Jackass, very much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:55 They played the Misfits all the fucking time. Misfits, Lear, War Gear. Yeah. All kinds. Uh, the band, CKY. Yeah. Fuck yeah, dude. Fucking bitter beings.
Starting point is 00:57:06 bro. Okay. This is it. This is number one. This is it. And, you know, people may not expect this. I wonder if I can guess it. I don't think you can. Okay. Let's try. Give it a shot. I know yours. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I think, I'm going to go with the Genesis record. No, wind and weathering was probably the next honorable mention. Gotcha. Good God. I think. there, it's very long in a way that's like, it's tough
Starting point is 00:57:42 to get through. Yeah. In one sitting. Yeah. Whereas this should be tough to get through in one sitting and somehow isn't. Interesting. I don't know. Many people don't know that I really rock with this record in this band like this.
Starting point is 00:57:58 But, and in the case of favorite versus best, I think this is the best. Okay. Like, period. I think this is all time rock albums, production, thematics, theatrics,
Starting point is 00:58:14 lyrics, riffs, vibe, art, fucking art direction, with an incredible movie to go along with. The band is Pink Floyd.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Wow. The album is the wall. Really? Yeah. That's your favorite record of all time. It's my favorite album, period. I think it's,
Starting point is 00:58:41 and it's, and I say, I think it's the best out. You know? Yeah, yeah. Like, is it my... I think it's my favorite. But I definitely know it's the best.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And it taught me so much kind of subliminally, you know? Doing three parts of the same song. And looking forward to all of them every time and not getting tired of them. And they're all like a minute long. Doing in the flesh twice. Fuck you. Yeah. Using the fucking riff.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Like a score. It's in the record 50 times. Yeah, yeah. And every time I'm like, it's back. Which is like creatively, maybe lazy. But also the most brilliant thing to be like, I'm not done with that, Rist. I want to use it again. So intentional.
Starting point is 00:59:30 So intentional. And that is like you don't have to be the most technical band, even though they can riff their asses on. Yeah, big time. drummers doing is like catching symbols where they shouldn't be caught and I've never forget it every time the movie's unbelievable I'll watch it today I know the whole thing like the back of my hand um all time performances by like guys who aren't the best singers in the world you know but they had the fucking sauce and they had the swag and they had this is two years after Static Age, by the way.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Think about what society could have done if fucking Static Age just came out. But also just think about the time that this was. Yeah. And what this sounds like and what this is and what it did just two years after something like Static Age was written. Just that puts a weird perspective
Starting point is 01:00:27 to how good this is and how important it is and how massive it is. And again, this is heavy, melodic, wild, unpredictable. Yeah, yeah, very, yeah. One of the last songs is an orcault. Nightmare, the trial. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:43 You never know where this thing's going. And the fucking hits that they hide in like track, like comfortably numb is like track 19. It doesn't make any sense. Think about that. I've noticed that. I noticed that recently. Yeah. And by the time you get there, you're like, this is now?
Starting point is 01:01:01 Like, why, you buried this? This is on because that, because that wasn't even a concept to them. Burying a song. Yeah. It was just the journey that they knew people would take and they did. You're listening to the whole thing. I'm listening to the whole thing damn near every time.
Starting point is 01:01:17 How many LPs was this? I think four. Four LPs. Which now we know from the 12 hits episode that a single sale of a four LP box set counts as four sales. Pretty nifty. This thing's got to be like many, many platinumed. Yeah, it must be, huh?
Starting point is 01:01:40 I think this is the best album, period. Amazing. Wow. And you can argue that. Yeah. But I don't, this is the best one. So good luck. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Do you know what mine is? I do. Does it start with an M? Sure, of course. Does the band start with M and the album start with the name? Fuck. Yeah, mine is Messer Puppets by Metallica. I think is the greatest.
Starting point is 01:02:10 It's the best metal record. It's got everything. Because here's what it has that Raden Blood doesn't have. It has melody and beautiful arrangements and stuff. And I think it's got some of Kirk's best solos. I think it's got some of Lars's most like solid drumming. You know, there's some like batteries crazy, but he doesn't. I don't think there's a denialable second on Master Pump.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I don't think so either. I've often said and this is I want to be known that this is my opinion. Kill them all isn't my favorite. I think they were kind of finding themselves. Ride the Lightning best vibe. Bullet belts, skateboards, Sam Hane shirts. It's like borderline of just a punk record.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Straight up. It's like an enhanced punk record. It's awesome. And then going back and reading reviews of Ride the Lightning from 84. Yeah. People are like, is it 84 or 86? 84, 84. And they're like, if you like them for,
Starting point is 01:03:13 because they were a hardcore band, it's over. They sold out. ride the lightning. It's awesome. And then I think Master is the best record. Yeah. Just the best experience from...
Starting point is 01:03:24 Experience. From fucking... Is it battery to damage? Like, come on, dude. It's crazy. I think... And Justice has the best singles. Some of my favorite singles,
Starting point is 01:03:34 blackened one in Harvester. And then I think Black Album sounds incredible. It's like the best sonic experience. But Master of Puppets, front to back, it's heavy, it's beautiful. I remember I was on Shick Road in Roselle, Illinois at a age of 16 when the part in master, the, when that came on, I remember driving being like, holy shit, this is awesome.
Starting point is 01:04:04 You were driving? Yeah, it was 16. Damn. So this wasn't like a young fucker, Boe skating it up in the town type thing. Young fucker Bo was skating it up to AFI and Misfits Records. I had a weird, yeah, but I had a weird thing. The only Metallica I had had experience with was S&M record, because my mom really liked it. S&M rips, dude.
Starting point is 01:04:30 It's fucking awesome. It's so good. No qualms. But that's all I really, I remember she got the double cassette. And then everything that was on the radio at the time, I didn't really like, and then a lot of black album shit because it's on the radio or MTV. Yeah. I didn't dive into old Metallica. especially when I was like punk, punk, punk, punk, punk.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Right, right, totally. And then it changed you. Oh, it changed me for better, for worse. Jesus Christ. You can see it right there on that arm. That's Metallica. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's no surprise to anyone.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I think Metallica is my favorite band. It's often a toss-up between them and the misfits. Right. Those are the two. And, you know, one of them wouldn't exist without the other, so I think maybe. But the band An album is such a different discussion. But yeah, I think Master of Puppets is their best album.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Yeah. I agree. It's the easiest to get through. Yeah. There's no like escape or whatever the fuck is on ride and there's no 10 minute song on injustice. Yeah. Pretty good though.
Starting point is 01:05:35 It's all right. It's all right. I think this is their best sounding record too. I think it smokes black album production. Really? it's definitely two different flavors you know yeah this is like this is very real very raw
Starting point is 01:05:50 very aggressive and black album was like we need to make this sound the best yeah yeah there you go and I don't think that's always and they've never strayed from that and I think that's the problem now I'm with you know it was reported with all due respect to the gods
Starting point is 01:06:05 master I think was recorded in Copenhagen too in the same place they did they did ride master and justice, I believe, in the same place. Crazy. What a run. Yeah. That's our 10 favorite albums of all time.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Listen, this is us. I don't see how there could possibly be controversy here because this is a deeply personal discussion, right? Yeah. Are there any that you remembered that you, because I remembered a sew by Peter Gabriel, like, while we were already going. I mean, Genesis Wind and Weathering is a tough one to leave out. It's tough.
Starting point is 01:06:42 But I stand by my picks. Yeah. I like one million things. But these are the 10 that came to mine. And I think that has to count for something. I love it. So thank you all for watching. Happy New Year.
Starting point is 01:06:56 We will be back next week so soon with some more fun stuff. And then the next five billion months and weeks after that. Thank you all for watching. Bye.

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