HardLore - Touring Has Changed (And Why It's Better)

Episode Date: August 17, 2023

Colin and Bo recount and break down Deadbody's recent East Coast tour with Sanguisugabogg, Kruelty, Vomit Forth and Gates to Hell. Being the longest tour he's done in 5 years, the landscape of hardcore/metal has changed drastically since he was last on the road. So many positives, so few negatives, find out in this episode what makes touring so much more pleasant in this new, uncharted territory for both of our hosts. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef Join WHATNOT with our special little link to get $15 off your first purchase. Get ready for the first ever Hardlore live auction TOMORROW, March 24th at 8:30 PM EST: https://www.whatnot.com/invite/hardlore Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe Check out our merch at https://knotfest.com/store/?view=hardlore Find all of our videos at https://knot1.co/3vWXsbx #HardLore   HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER   For sponsorship opportunities, email us! [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello, welcome. It's Hardlord time. How are you, Bo? So good to see you. So great to see you. It's been weak. This thing happens where we'll do something and we get a real ass full of each other. And then we just we just like don't talk. But it's nice to catch up. I'm glad we're doing. No, then we log on. It's like, hey, what do you do? Hey, man. So I just got home. So we got we got us. We got us per usual. This one's a little different. This is something we've never done before, mostly because I haven't toured, you haven't toured in five years. Yeah, truly. So the, and I just did a four-day East Coast tour, which is the longest thing I've done since 2018. In my eyes, I've seen the road, baby.

Oh, my God, I'm warned. Do you hear me? I'm gone for eight months. And you know the world, the world has changed so much, Bo. Yeah. I'm really excited to hear what's changed. I want to know. I want to know.

This is great. This is exciting. The last show of this tour is case and point to how much things have changed. But we'll get there. Okay. It was four days. We were lucky enough to join for four days of a very long tour, which was Sangu-Sugabag, cruelty, vomit forth, gates to hell.

Crazy tour. Crazy tour. And I said, every night on this thing, I said, listen, people are going to look back at this thing and go, damn, I wish I was there. And I think a key reason to that is how rare is it for these kind of like hardcore dudes playing death metal type bands? A bill of four or five of them where they're probably. playing the same music you'd hear at fucking Ozfest or fucking open air.

Yeah, yeah. But a full ensemble of guys who are encouraging you to spin kick. Yeah, it doesn't happen. No, it does not happen. When you grow up listening to dying fetus and suffocation and stuff, like you hear these parts and you go, damn, do they know? So I've been meaning to ask you because you'll know more. Dying fetus embrace spin kicking stuff.

Do they just don't always have the opportunity for their audience to do it. What I'm asking is does internal bleeding or suffocation? Are they this? They're all on the same. That's so safe. They know, like especially internal bleeding. Yeah. Like the guitar player of internal bleeding is a younger guy now and Chris.

He works the door at AMH and he's in missing link, you know? Oh. Like he gets. They get it. They 100% they want it all. But now it's when they're drawing, when suffocation is drawing suffocation fans and dying fetus is drawing dying fetus fans.

Yeah. They don't have the space to accommodate both kinds of freaks, you know? Where Sangha-Sugabog now is harmoniously drawing this collection of people that is there for to do everything. You got the juggalo makeup black metal shirts in the front. You got the camo pants, hard lore shirt, spin kicking, you know? You got the pushpitter who's like, you guys, you guys are radical, man. I saw you with suicide silence.

I'm here. I'm here. Dude, I saw a video, I think, that Vamma Forth posted of just like an actual cool push pit. that was a wall of death, which they did every night. No, no, no. Well, it wasn't that. It was just like a cool kind of in the back push pit. Yeah, dude.

Which is like. There were multiple pits some nights in 400 campgrounds. When it's like got like one on one. But when it's just like a calamity like boiling water, then it's amazing. That's what it's supposed to be. That's what it's supposed to be. And that's what those fuckers are trying to do when they're like, come on, man. Yeah.

Come on. That's what the goal is that ever. I fucking hate that. And it does look cool. It looks so cool. It does. But what, spin kicking.

And like a sea of kicks is like, nothing better. Maybe we need the scorecards for dying fetus at FYA. We're going to need something for dying fetus. Honestly, dude, I was thinking about that. We're going to need something.

I was thinking about that on my flight home last time, just staring at the flyer, nervous. I had like chills. Because like we talked about this for life of agony too last year. Or earlier this year where it was like, oh shit. It might be scared. There's never going to be a better time or place for this thing to happen.

100%. And I look in one way I look at that and go finally, you know, finally this can occur. On the other hand, I look at it and go, you motherfuckers don't know shit about dying. fetus. And it makes me want to bring a weapon, you know? Don't say, it's Florida. You can't. Like dual wields some swords.

I mean, I don't mean a gun. I mean, I mean, like, like some nunchucks or something, you know? So walk me through, um, when'd you fly out? I love the logistics part of a little mini fly out tour. So we got a sweet minivan, dude. And we're a four piece band. Yeah. Oh, oh.

So it was truly. So sick. Yeah. So comfortable. Yeah. So my biggest advice to you is start a four piece man. Or three. The dead weight.

Yeah. Either do one guitar or sing and play guitar. Mm-hmm. Because good God. I don't mean you just, you don't have any dead weight in harm's way. I'm talking to new bands out here. I'm probably the dead weight in there. Come on.

Leave both alone. Hey. So would you, uh, where'd you fly to? Newark. Since we started in Asbury Park. Yeah. Which, you know, flying, dude, flying west to east just destroys an entire day. It's an entire day.

It's crazy. And I don't think East Coast people. No, they don't get it. They don't get it. Coming home from Santa Fury ruined me. Yeah. I haven't. My sleep schedule is, as you know, it's still so fucked.

Whereas last night, yesterday I flew home. I was in my living room by 4 p.m. Went to the movies. You know? Like had a normal day after. Yeah. It's tired, but went to Wingstop. Anyway.

So Newark. Flying there, you fly into Newark. Got a little minivan. We, I'm stressing. You know, I'm like, how are we going to fit?

Oh, yeah. And then it was like, we could have fit. I could have brought five more guitars. This is fine. We could have fit a whole drum kit in here. We're doing price line,

getting hotels every night, dude. Oh, And it's probably... Oh, because you're a four-piece band. Nobody's on the floor. Exactly. Oh, my God.

Hotel prices also haven't really changed. I was just watching a whole thing about how Airbnb is like collapsing. And hotel prices have just, like, maintained. Dude, the Chad Hotel versus the Virgin Airbnb. Straight up, dude. Yeah, I mean, when we were touring heavily, a hotel room was probably 139. 159. Yeah.

And with taxes, it's like 200 bucks. Same. It's maybe less than. Yeah. Because I paid, I got like my own room the first night and it was like 150.

So sick. Yeah. Amazing. Which, you know. You can't do that for a month. No, you cannot do that for a month.

But I'm doing four days. It's worth it. But a band on tour making 300 or night. Maybe not realistic. Yeah. Of course. We're not there yet.

But I think bands in general are being paid a little more across the board. This is something I wanted to touch on was... I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, you know. Yeah, no, I know. But you do know from Dead Body and your various machines that, like, merch is crazy. Yeah, merch is crazy.

And I think cruelty is the prime example of that. Really? They had merch deliveries every day. And I think a lot of that is like Poor planning or not poor Not at all but I think it's people going Yo, this man's from Japan. We got to We got to support them.

That's amazing. Which that I saw that everywhere. Like they had a line out the door every night. We had a show in Asbury Park On the like second post-human headliner that we did And a pipe burst in the show got canceled. Really? So I've never played there.

Yeah. It's probably the same venue. It has to be. And that place was awesome. Yeah, that's what I've heard. And it literally flooded. I got pizza down the street. A place called Luigi's.

You know, it's called Luigi. Have you heard of? If I see a pizza place called Mario or Luigi, I'm going. Yeah. Because I know it's good. But the show was very good. Aaron and Andy from Year of the Knife came. Oh, right.

Which was like their first time leaving the house, basically. How are they? So good, dude. Watching those videos of them walking, like, got me in multiple directions. Because it was like, I'm so happy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like so happy, but I'm like wincing.

And I'm like, ah, like. I was like, moshing into them and stuff. But it was really cool. I mean, that felt like that felt like a big moment just to have them there. That's awesome. Know that that's where they are. Yeah. New Jersey.

Let's see what happened that day. The first... Okay, so let me preface this. George, the drummer of Dead Body, one of a kind, eccentric, out of his mind type fellow, you know? Yeah. And I'll pre-preface this.

Dead Body as an assortment of guys is, like, funny even to us. Yeah, yeah. Because, like, George, he and I maybe had two conversations before joining the man. Miles, from Apparition, formerly of harness, the best guy,

the ultimate shredder, but like, we've never once thought to be in a man together. Because it was just like, he's got his own stuff. What do you mean? Yeah. So it's truly like an example of kind of the old way of putting the band together.

Yeah, like an ad in the back of the paper or something. Yeah. Like instead of being like, oh, a really good friend. I should start a band with him. Yes. It was more like, who's the best guy

we can get for this? For kind of every role. And I think Taylor even maybe it was like I wasn't, I don't think I was in the initial plans for being a good body. It was kind of just like he was going to sing in this kind of grind band. Yeah. And then it was like, what if I play bass

and sang with you? And then we had to try it out. Yeah. So. And it's, I feel, I like, dude, I have so much fun. This may be the most fun, to be honest. Yeah, because you're not singing.

I'm not singing, singing. You're not drumming. Yeah. And bass is the best thing in the world. Yeah. And like, and their, like, their job is to play really tight and make it sonically impressive. So I'm like, okay, I got my role here.

Yeah, but you know what pisses me off about you? Every video I see of you playing in that band. What's that? Your fingers are doing. doing great. You're not. That is the, hold on. That is the biggest thing of water I have ever seen. Fuck you. I'm doubly pissed now. Your fingers are doing all this crazy shit. Like, you're not just playing notes. Yeah. Like single notes, I notice. And it's just like, he can't, he can't just do that normal. You got to fucking, you're like, uh, what's,

what's dude from Russia's, the singer from Russia's name? It's not Neil Pert. No, the other, the homie. The homie. You're doing him where he's like, I could play you're Getty Lee. I could play synth with my feet. Like that's what you're doing up there, dude. That's maybe next for me. So tell me about George.

Dude, okay, so George is insane. I love him to death. But the men, so I thought I could eat. And brother. When I say he puts me to shame, you know I mean it. Yeah, because you claim to out eat Brody.

Which is true. But one would assume is like a caloric hurricane. It is true. George eats twice as much as me. Holy fuck. Dude. We went to a place called Topps Diner in East Newark, New Jersey. Oh, dude, a diner in New Jersey?

It was incredible, though. Every aspect of it was incredible. Did they have the glass case with the desserts? Beyond that. They have a 60-year-old cheesecake recipe. Yes. And one bite of it was just like, this is the one. Oh.

And then they have like a dedicated coffee shop section if you can't sit yet. Ah. So we went in there first. It is 10.30 in the morning. George has to try the cheesecake at 10.30 in the morning before we've done anything. But it was just like, we're ordering like cold brews and stuff, like wiping the boogers out of our eyes. And we just hear like, can I get the cheesecake with no raspberry? Because for you guys, it's 7.30 in the morning.

Yeah, and he's, he's a house and cheesecake. But we thought he was insane, and then it came, and we were like, Yeah, yeah. And I guess that's really the preface to how gnarly he eats, but when we're in the van on, this, like, defined the weekend. And I don't think there's a way for me to describe it and accurately show. how funny it was. Of course. But when we're driving, we're like in a heated discussion, like all talking, all participating.

And then it gets to a point where I'm like in the middle of a story about whatever we're talking about. And then George's phone, as loud as it possibly can, as loud as a phone can make a sound. iPhone or Android. Android. His Android, as loud as a phone has ever done anything, says, Autobots, roll out. What kind of notification was it? I don't know.

So we're just crying now. Like, we're all in tears for 30 minutes now. Just saying it over and over again. And he's like, sorry, fellas. What were we saying? George, it just doesn't matter. It was unbelievable. So that just defined everything.

You know? What did you eat at the diner, though? We all got the Cubano. Nice. Oh, dude. And they have these, like, like cheeseburger egg roll things. Like cheat,

no, it was cheese steak egg rolls. Ooh. Yes. With a, with a like clam and shrimp bisque. Whoa. Dude,

it was gnarly. And then we all got the Cubano, which was pretty good. Pretty good. I love, did it come with mustard on it? The Cubano? Yeah.

Of course. I love that. Love a Cubano. Love me too. It had bread and butter pickles on it, which. I don't care for those really. Man, Jack, that just could about could ruin my day on the happiest of days.

Yeah, I got you. A surprise, bread and butter pickle is one of the most devastating things a man can experience. Because you really don't know until you're past like the best part of the pickle, which is the crunch. Yeah. And then you're like, oh, a pickle. It's like eating a steak and then getting ketchup, honestly. It's like poop with sugar on it, you know? Oh, God.

Yeah, it's just like that. Nobody wants sugary poop. You don't want that. And so driving to Asbury Park felt good. Felt the big good. You know, it was like, forget about it, you know? Yeah, of course. You motherfucker.

That's how we felt. Hey, yeah, yeah. Show was fucking six. I think it was almost sold out, which in a big ass room like that was already a surprise. Yeah. And cruelty went to Wawa after, but we'll get there. Oh, this is one. So there's a Midnight Sons, like the band.

So Taylor, myself, Josiah, and Austin Crane were in a band called the Midnight Sons years ago. And wasn't Andrew Morrissey? And Andrew Morrissey, of course. But I don't think Andrew's in the chat since he got a non-American. He's an ex-pat. Yeah. Yeah. Rick to Life has been in the band chat since it.

began for some reason. He's just been in there. And he finally responded. And there's just a solid half hour of just back and forth with the Rick's Life in the Midnight Sun's chat. So he might be on the show soon

to, you know, clear up some truths and some lies about him, you know, but mostly truths we'll get there. So that's going to be good. Show was fucking awesome.

You know, the different thing now being at these shows post hard lore is like people coming from hearing about it on hardlore. So that's a whole new thing to get used to. Oh, sick. That's fucking awesome. So that is cool. And it's nothing but cool straight up.

Is somebody being like, hey, hey, love the show. It's like, dang. Let me ask you something. And this is something I want to, I kind of feeling.

need to address. While you're setting up, while you're getting ready to play or in between songs, I know you guys are always making noise for the most part. We don't really. We leave it silent.

There's some dead spots. Yeah. Are people yelling hard lore or anything? There's a few, yeah. I don't like that. I don't like that. I just want to say that I think a band is like a special thing

in what we're all about. Yeah. And is like greater than any band is greater than hard lore yeah no 100% I think for the most part it was before and after okay it wasn't really between songs which is that's just them being like hey this is maybe the only time I'm gonna see you today so I've got to tell you I like your show you know yeah so so I guess as long as it's tasteful it's tasteful it was tasteful there was never a non-tasteful thing there was one guy that was just like I like hard lore okay that's fine thank

buddy. Thank you. So Gates to Hell was opening every single night. Louisville Death Metal. Ryan LDB. Ryan LDB at the helm. Very sweet group of lads playing hard-ass riffs. Having really strong opening sets every single night, which is not easy to do.

No, that's crazy. So. And you're a sweet young boy, Trey. My sweet lad, the youngest, Garras, Trey, filling on on drums doing a great job. I think he reluctantly had to learn how to blast just to do this, to blast beat. So I'm looking at him like six weeks into blasting for the first time and he's doing

great. Oh, wow. Awesome. They're fucking sick. Vomit fourth was two or four every night. I'm, like I'm, I'm obsessed with them. Yeah, yeah. In a way.

Yeah. I'm specifically obsessed with Kane, the singer. he's maybe the best front man in the world in the whole entire world explain elaborate please he's like he's like an improv of god you know i can see him having these thoughts and saying them spur of the moment his banter yeah is like out of control pro he's firing it all on all cylinders. And then it would be us every night. Did I say one of four when Gates the Hillplay?

It was one of five. Yeah. Which is an even tougher spot to be in. Oh, and to deliver it, which they did every single time. I'm trying to think. So you were right in the middle, sandwiched by two.

Right in the middle every night, which is the best. That's like. Sandwich by two halves of a tour that are like finally tuned. So finally tuned, which we were for sure not this first night. But people that we were. You'll be lying, but I appreciate it. Vomitforth does a wall of death. Yeah.

Like most nights. Yeah. And this night, it was like, unbelievable. Do people die? In walls of death? They died. They both of death. They don't call it that.

I don't know the pro. Do you keep going or do you run into somebody? And just attack them. How do you, like at the, like, Vaken? How do you knock it like? trampled. How does that? How does that?

The goal is trampling. I would need to muster the Roherom and straight up. We're plowing through them works, you know? Like there's no. Let's see any Jersey anecdote photos I can find. You know what's great about New Jersey? It's just knowing that you're going to eat good. Yeah.

And New Jersey is really has risen on my personal feelings of just like, They have diners. That's all I ever want. We needed a diner. Like we went to Wawa when we landed just because it was late and Wawa rocks. And then woke up, got a diner, went to Wawa again for dinner. Yeah. Brought cruelty where they tried Wawa for the first time.

Loved it. Outstanding. Outstanding. Which makes me think now I should say every band, Gates the Hell is not yet. Oh, they did. Okay. Nice.

Every band told me what their three favorite places to eat on this whole tour were. Okay. On their whole tour. Yeah, the whole thing. Okay. So I'm going to break that down now. First, I'm going to show you cruelty trying Wawa for the first time. I get a live review.

Warras, ice deal am a man. This is beast. Yeah. What is that? It's cold. Go back. Penini? Yeah, roasted to take it?

Okay. So, do you know? Let's give it a shot. Wow, the shaka. This rocks. That? Huge review. What is that?

Soup. Soup? Chicken noodle. We like it? Yeah. The best. We like it. Chicken little.

So what do we think of Wawa? Good? Good. Grilty loves Wawa. Look at Manny back there. He loves. Yeah. Wawa.

Wawa. Wawa's awesome. Good? Yeah. This has been cruelty tries Wawa. Thank you so much. Beautiful. Did you get that diet half and half?

I got the last bottle of diet half. Oh. The first night. Second night, it was the fridge was fully stocked because that was when Manny, the drummer, the insane drummer of cruelty, took one. sip of the half and half and just went.

Oh, God. I, um, I no longer choose sides in the Wawa Sheets debate. No need. And, you know, if I had the Jews aside, at this point, I think it's Wawa. But that's, I think that's just because that's where you went last. Maybe I think, I think

there's layers to this conversation. There, there is for sure. Sheets has the fried shit down. Yeah. It's like the, the treats and shareables. and apps and just like fun things, sheets, clears. Yeah. But a Wawa, like, hoagie.

The Samis, yeah, the homies. Yeah, the homies, yeah. The homies are, the hoagie is like legit, deli quality good. I'm just saying in this battle of North and South, Union versus Confederacy, I'm Missouri. I'm out. Sure. No, I don't care. In this case, both are, if they're next to each other, I'm going to both.

dude you know really well said that's an excellent point i'm getting a while i'm getting a half and half iced tea yeah i'm getting a fucking grinder a pepperoni pizza sandwich from walla and then uh and then wisconsin cheese bites yeah exactly yeah from sheets perfect i'm gonna be like perfect meal that was most that was most of jersey louisies was good there was a like korean taco place Oh, a fusion? Yeah, that I didn't try, but everybody said it was really good. But if you're playing in Asbury, if you or, you know, for any reason, are playing in Asbury Park coming up, check out that Korean Fusion place. I heard it's dope.

You're going to break down what they said? Oh, yeah. The top three. Cruelties' favorite. Maybe we'll do them last because it's going to be the best. Okay. Well, then here's Kane from VomitForth letting us know his favorite places that they. on tour. Hey, what's up? This is Kane here from internationally ranked touring artist Vomit

Fourth. You're also talking to someone in the top 50 of A7X Mosh Pit Survivors. Top three places to eat on tour. Hot spot barbecue, Pensacola, Florida. Incredible. They gave us free cookies. And if you recommend people, they give you other free things. It's a very good place. Um, Missoya ramen in Toronto, the Toronto location, uh, was incredible. I took, uh, my, uh, uh, better half, Delisi and I took cruelty there and they did it, that it was, um, close to, if not a little bit better than the ramen in Japan. What? I did just lie about that.

We did take them there and they did like it, though. Uh, but it was really, really good. Um, and then there's another kind of smaller. chain, but they have like, they have like a couple locations, uh, raisin canes. Um, chicken place. Very good. I loved it. Um, best places to eat on tour of VomitForth edition.

He was also explaining to me at McDonald's when we went one night that he gets the combo number two A because it's his right. All right. All right. We're here with Kane from Bometforth trying McDonald's. This is, um, it's incredible. It's incredible. It's everything I thought it was going to be in Moore.

I got the 2A. Tell me about the 2A. It's your right. Is it gone? No, it's never going to be gone. You're going to have to pry it from my cold dead hands. Let's get in there. Let's try it. Oh, oh.

Oh my goodness. Exploding. Exploiting. And it's my right. That's pretty fucking good. Pretty good. Uh, here is Trey Garris, uh, who was filling in for Gates to Hell with his picks. Let's see what this fucker's saying.

So I forgot to take a video with the rest of Gates to Hell, but I think collectively we agree that Tallulah's in Asbury Park. Um, we went to a Brazilian steakhouse chain called Texas Day Brazil, which was really good. And, um, McDonald's got to be the third one. He's your young boy. He knows exactly. He knows what I like, man. He's right.

Dude, I fucking love Texas Day Brazil. I never bet. Oh, they just keep on it on. Oh, thank you, buddy. Here are Cruelties picks. Padu, who was there, filling guitar player? Krispy, crunchy chicken.

Okay. I don't know where that is or what it is. Papa Johns. Yeah, they fuck. They love it, dude. And then Wawa, parentheses, meatball sandwich.

Dude, that's the one. It's so good. It's so good. And if you're, when I was just obsessed with keto, you can do a platter. Right. And just do it without bread.

And it's actually, like you kind of have to avoid the sauce a little bit. Well, honestly, Bo, most meatballs are made with breadcrums too. I looked up the nutritional facts on theirs and it's pretty decently within range.

Huge. Yeah. Manny, who is their insane drummer, Krispy crunchy chicken again. What? Where is this place? I don't know.

I never even heard of it. Denny's. I told you he's insane. Yeah. And Keynes. Okay. I think they have Denny's in Tokyo. I definitely have seen one in Tokyo.

I'm almost positive. But whatever. All right. Saina. Plays base. Wing stop. Yes. Pop-ey's

Yes Dude Papa Johns Dude Papa needs to Papa needs to fucking do something With Get over to that With fucking island man Get over there

They're dying for you Zuma So the vocalist and guitar player Wingstop Yes Cains Wow Papa John

Papa Johns Papa Johns Pava John's Wing stop I love the respect for Wingstop We know how I feel about about Cains. Yeah.

It's just not made for me and that's fine. Papa Johns is borderline of, do you fuck with Papa Johns? Yeah, I do. I forget where we put them on our own. I'm not, I think it was a C. Just like right in the middle.

I'm not like ordering it regularly or anything. But out of the big Domino's Pizza Hut, is there another one? Little Cicers. Like it's really Domino's Pizza Hut Papa Johns and I would say that's third it's third for sure yeah okay but sometimes when you don't when you get it after not getting it for a while it's pretty good the butter garlic sauce which is vegan it's crazy that you like that I know I know it is but I tried it once and I was like oh I get this it is a little creamy but in my brain if it's just butter and oil it's really just oil and garlic that's all it is but then by that same I feel like there's some amazing. in there? No, no, no, it's, it's vegan. Oh. It's crazy. Oh, so it's what kind of butter is in there? Exactly. It's margin. It's fake butter. Like you can't believe it. Yeah.

Can't believe it's not. But by, by my same rationale, all mayo is is oil and egg whites. The good shit. There's no, I have no, there's no, there's no remedies. Right. I got you. Uh, okay, Long Island was next. Oh. I know. I don't want to bury the venue. AMH. But that is my fucking, the bane of my existence. Amityville Music Hall in Amityville. Famously with the sign across the street that says,

Welcome to Amityville, welcomes you. We've dined in at Taco Bell at 11 a.m. This day, the old way. You know? The boys sitting at a table. Try the beefy crunch is back right now. Lovely. So love that.

Do you try the Berea thing? I haven't tried. I didn't see it until after I ordered. It's pretty good. I didn't realize that's what the whole like scowl promotional thing was all about was the Neither did I. Like the grilled cheese beeria taco thing. Yeah.

It's pretty good. It looks fucking awesome. It's pretty fucking good. There we go. All right. I mean. Yeah. That was probably the most people I've ever seen at an MH.

Wow. Yeah. So just to the only reason I have even a slight issue with AMH is just because the only way to load in or out. Like if you're done, if you're in the middle. Yeah. Yeah. And you're loading out. You're walking through an entire show.

Yeah. And they're not moving. And they're not moving. And I feel and like merch is in kind of a, you know. So merch is outside. Merchers in the back. Oh, okay. Which was great.

Dude, I think the last time we played there, it was like monsoon pouring right outside. So no one's outside. Oh, man. But that's my only beef. And I will say going back to Jersey, it is fucking humid. Oh, yeah, it's swampy out there. Swampy out there, swampy in there. I'm like, this affirmed me like, I am a wet motherfucker.

So let me ask you, was it Manscape Time? 100%. Every day. Every day it was Manscape Time. The revival, I had to revive. But that doesn't make me any less wet. No, it sure doesn't. And like I, I, my fingers were like Dennis the Menace pruned, you know?

Wrinkled up by the time we're done playing every night. Picks are slapping, slipping all over the place. Yeah, I hate that. I never dealt with this before. I'm a singer, you know? You played guitar and got tape. I did, but I never got that wet. Yeah.

I got to go out for a dead life, so I'm going crazy. I'm sweating my ass off. I didn't know I could get that wet, really. Yeah. Like, like soaping. Yeah, just like sopping. I whip my shirt around. I don't look forward to that.

Anyway, I looked at monkeys the whole drive to AMH. If anybody knows where I can meet a monkey, please, I'm dying. Monkey or an ape? I'll take an ape. I'm really into monkeys. Okay. You know, the Great Eight family, I have great respectful. Yeah.

Chimps, orangutans, you know. Monkeys are just like, I feel, I feel one degree from them, you know? Okay. And I know what I said something about this on Twitter, I think, but like when I got my new Pelican case that holds my pedals and my amp. Yeah, yeah. Figuring out how to do the lashes and stuff. Yeah. was like, I'm a monkey.

Yeah, you're... I'm minutes from monkey jeans. 2001 Space Odyssey. I just, that, I was just there. Yeah. Genetically. Somehow I'm here. So it was really inspiring to see them, you know, they like,

wear flannels and jeans and stuff and, like, hug you. I got a big one. Okay. I think, I'm sure we can make that happen. I'm, please, if you're listening and you know where I can meet a monkey, like I'm d. I'm dying to do it. A little guy that will like me, you know?

Yeah. How was AMH? Really cool. Long Island is another place where it's like, we're going to eat. Oh. Like we're eating, you know. Yeah. Scanlon who booked the show. Thanks for, shout out to Scanlan for booking the show, which if you've never said that.

Yeah. You ain't lived. If you've never said on a microphone, thanks to Scanlan for booking the show, you're nobody. Jesus. That should be, everybody should aspire to thank Scanlon

for booking the show. It's a right of passage, you know, can't wait to do it again in a month. I want, like I had a plan while I was talking to him, I was thinking

of opening a coffee shop here called Scanlan. In Long Island or? No, here. In the Valley. In California, it's just called Scanlan. Scanlan.

Not even Scanlon. Coffee. Why do you guys call it Scant? Huh? Thanks to Scant. Like if we book a, if we like caterer a show, it can be like, thanks to Scalyn for catering the show. This was a whole conversation with

myself and Dan Sealy and Aaron Warman about just people, and Becalaider, about just people thanking Scanlan. Just making my license plate, like a vanity plate that's just Scanlan. Skinlan. Anyway, John,

first context. John Scanlan is a fellow from Long Island. He does shows all over the country at this point. Yeah. I think he's involved in F.YA Fest, along with Bob Wilson. What number? Big Bob. Yeah.

This is a great show. This is where I need to state that Sangua Sogabong is maybe the best sounding live entity in in music period wow uh to the point where i thought they had their own front of house guy for the first two shows really and they don't i love that like the guy the front of house guy at every venue when doing their sound check is standing there going like i'm fucking he's standing there every night the guy was like this sounds awesome which never happens you know no the first Front of house guy on the front of house microphone is being like, you guys sound amazing. And I'll tell you why.

They don't have a bass player. Right. It's all guitar. It's all guitar run through two bass amps. So they're both guitar players are running a drop tuned guitar signal. Yeah. To bass amps. So it sounds like they have two guitar players and two bass players playing perfectly in sync.

Yeah, it's going to be as tight as possible. It is crazy. one time it was the sound and fury that got shut down because of the motorcycle incident yeah harm's way left and we jumped on a nacho show in l.A. that night and at that particular for that run that nachos were doing drew the bass player had fucked up his back so he wasn't there so and he did exactly that and did it sound unbelievable it sounded well I mean like they're Drew and Andy are like very competent musicians as it is but it sounded just like it was just like a crazy unlock moment in my brain where it's like you can kind of do anything you can figure something people have been doing the MacBook running the tracks thing but like I feel like this was the coolest way possible to not have a bass player yeah and then to have a non-kick drum that goes a long way of course it's crazy because when you're hearing it on stage you're still hearing the kick somehow but it's not bearing everything so like standing on stage and watching them is very pleasant

or like even from front of house, it just sounds perfect in a satisfying way and not in like a no disc to them. But like when I saw Ghost, it sounded just like the record. In a way where it's like, what's the point? What's the point? I love them.

You know, I genuinely love the band. I'm not a big. And like I've said before, I don't care for live music if I can't participate in it in some way. Yeah. And I think that was the moment where I was like,

okay, this is just. the album. Yeah, they might as well just press play. Might as well just press play. I love it. You got to figure that the, the kick drum is going to be since it's essentially

triggered. Yeah. That mixing it live is really easy because you don't have to be like, oh, it's a fast part so he's hitting a little softer. Yeah. You don't have to worry about dynamics or anything.

It's just like, there it is. Yeah. It sounds so good. Interesting. Great. Interesting. I mean, every band on the tour was that.

They're on week five or six. Yeah. So they're so fucking dialed in. And they're all hard as shit and playing exactly what I like, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like death metal from the perspective of a person who grew up listening to hardcore. The best. I'm trying to think of any other anecdotes from Long Island.

What'd you eat in Long Island? Scanlon ordered pizza from spot nearby. I had these like square vodka slices. Oh, dude. I know that place. What was it called? It's called like likes or something. Okay, maybe not that place then, but, dude.

Crazy. The pizza there is fucking awesome, dude. Long Island, I don't know why. I think it's because of all of our friends are from Long Island. Yeah. That I just like love it. I like adore it. Long Island is the valley.

Yeah. Wow. It's the same thing. It's right outside of the biggest city. You just blew my mind. Like the people are the same. That's like, that's kind of. the valley and Long Island got

there was a strong connection very quickly. Wow. It's the same place. Yeah, you just blew my mind. That makes total sense. It's pretty dope. Next day was Connecticut. You went home.

The Mazaland. How to feel. What'd you say? How'd I feel to be home? Fucking awesome. And I'll tell you what. We left bright and early that morning. We We drove, we didn't stay on Long Island. We drove to New Haven so that we could wake up and do the, give, give Miles and George

the full Connecticut pizza experience. Yeah. Fucking, I mean, and you did yourself a favor because long island, one thing about Long Island is that might be the worst traffic I've ever been in. Getting out of there, not at night is, it's like the worst place in America to drive. Yeah. It's crazy. One bridge.

I don't know what fucking bridge is. And you can't drive up. van on it. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no, you're not allowed to bring a trailer on it. It's insane. It's insane. So we drove to New Haven, woke up and, you know, to the, to the, to the pizza aware listeners, we went to Sally's and Frank Pepys, which I learned it's not Pepe. It's Pepe. Italians. To the unaware, Sally's and Frank Peppies are competitor pizza joint. in Connecticut of and New Haven is like a pizza, a pizza capital of the entire world. Never had it.

I've never had it. A P-I-Z-A. A-B-E-Z-A. A-B-E-T's, yeah. And we finally put it to the test. We had fresh pies from both. Sallies was like an hour and a half wait to get inside, which we did. But we ordered Frank Peppies in advance.

Smart. Aida in line. Wow. And so it was even, and I will say, even eating Frank Peppies fresh, we were like, this is good pizza, you know? Mm-hmm. This is good pizza. Everybody was like, this is good. Sallies.

Smashed. Dude, I mean, I saw all the responses and stuff, obviously. And even on the, our TikTok, it was like, yeah, of course. You know, it was like very Sally's. Sallies is cool. crazy. Wow. I got to try.

If I, if that was there, if that was down the street for me, you'd have a problem. I would have a serious problem. But I'd also have a solution. You know? Yeah. It's like, it's like kickback.

Wow. Kickback is the van where if I don't know what to listen to, I listen to kickback. Huh. I just go, I don't know. I'll put kickback on. You have a great time? Sally's is the, it would be the thing where it's like, oh, I don't have an idea for dinner.

Obviously, I'm getting. Sally's. But maybe the inconvenience of getting Sally's makes that not a thing. Do they do delivery or pieces to go? They do, but not at like prime time. Yeah, right. They can't. They can't sustain that.

Which is fucking good for that. Yeah. And also that that's like that ensures a level of like quality control. Because when places like that open, oh, second location, they're always going to compare it. It's always going to be whatever. you know. A lot of people said modern. Yeah.

Modern is the place. That's a newer place on the same street. Gotcha. That I haven't gotten to try it. I'm excited to. And then Zuparty's, I guess, is the other one. Okay. So we're playing the Webster Underground in Harvard, Connecticut this night.

How do you feel about that location? Oh, it's insane. It's insane. Yeah. That's fucking. The last time we were there. It's a battleground. After the show, after everyone was gone, we were waiting to settle.

Literally an argument was outside that was ended by someone saying, I'll be back with my gun. And all of us just went into the venue. No, you can hear it from anywhere. Anywhere in that zone is like there was a, I was talking to Sean outside after the show. Sean Martin came, beloved. First ever guest on Hardlore.

And we just hear, pop, pop, pop, pop. And Sean just goes, that'll solve it. Yeah, does it every time. It was like, oh, all right, it's over. Yeah, location's pretty wild. It's fine. I like that space. Yeah, it's sick.

The showroom is cool. Have you ever been to the big room? Yeah. It's crazy. That's the first live music I ever saw in my life was there. I do feel silly asking that now. What was it? What was it?

Yeah, that you saw there. Hey, breed. Dude, that's insane. Yeah. And then other than that, The other first show I ever went to was Creed and Jerry Cantrell. Like Jerry Cantrell's solo? Jerry Cantrell's solo playing full Alton change sets.

This is post-lane passing. Hell of a lineup. Yeah. It's fucking dope, dude. And that was at the time where if I walked into King Philip middle school wearing a Creed shirt, somebody's like sick fucking shirt, dude. Yeah, of course. Hard as fuck. If you were pretending like you didn't like Creed back in the day, you were a fucking thing.

Yeah, tracks, man. Of course. Of course. They made God cool. Soon as good. That's fucking go. Unbelievable. I have never seen the Webster Underground

look like this. How do you mean? Jam packed. Wow. Really? Never seen it. Where, like, you can't get in when a band is playing.

Did you have access to the green room that's like up the street? I know. I mean, maybe, but I didn't care. It was I didn't even bother. Yeah, okay. The green rocks. Like gates to hell opening,

it was fucking ass to ankles, wall to wall, slammed. So is this, did they say every show was like this on the tour? I think they said for the most part, yeah. Dude, so is hardcore and adjacent music just like back

in a big way? You know, I could say yes, but I also think Sangua Sengu Sogabagabag is like, it's very much a thing and they're drawing everyone. And that's the cool part. And not only are they drawing everyone, but they're drawing people who are accepting

of whatever you want to do there. It's not the guys who are going to punch you in the head for spin kick. It's the guys who are like, shit that shit out fucking crazy. Dudes, we're doing karate in there. I might have to learn some. That's awesome.

So that is cool. and I've never seen it like this ever truly no I haven't no way where to the point where when we're we're about to start I'm playing I'm like Webster underground like who knows how that's gonna be because I've played there I've played good shows there there weren't that good you know and we're like setting up and I just look up and it's like front to back full so that felt that hit me dude because that's full circle That's so awesome. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.

I'm sure. Big time. So I mean, we've played there, I've played there three times now, I think, total. And it really hits me every time. Yeah, because that's home. That's home. That's like, that's birthplace, you know? Yeah.

Like this, the valley is obviously home, but I've grown up in this position where I get to kind of have two homes, you know. I get to have childhood home and home. So that's, that's childhood home. And then like lumpy's there. and slides. My man. Slides. I fucking love him.

And then Alex Casey's Streets of Hate. I got to give a specific shout out to Alex Casey Streets of Hate. No other record label CEO is in the pit for that many bands consistently. You know? The man is everywhere. And he's mosh. Which, to be fair, lumpy is too. But I think Alex is by far of all record label CEOs in the world, most consistent spin kicker.

Like his pit to, pit to chill ratio is out of control. It's just nuts. The pit percentage is dwarfing the chill percentage. Even for you as a record label CEO spin kicker. Brand new record label CEO, Cosmic Joe 12 inch coming soon. Yeah, agreed. What else can I say about Connecticut? Jostas Uncle Mike works at Sally's, making pies.

Unbelievable. Say hello to my Uncle Mike. Is his name Mike Josta? Maybe. No, his last name is that John. I know, I know, I know. Michael Shanahan, probably. I ain't never heard nothing more Irish in my life than Michael Shanahan.

Michael. He makes people. pizzas down at Salas. Colise. We stopped at our childhood apartment building to see if the sepultero logo that my brother that Taylor painted when he was in seventh grade was still there. It looks great, too. It looks like newly, it looks like restored.

Yeah, what's going on with that? I don't know. He killed that shit. Cruelty trying New Haven style pizza was cool. Yeah, they liked it. They loved it. I noticed that none of them said sallies or whatever. They weren't.

They weren't with us for that. Yeah, but they ate it. They ate Frank. That's what I'm saying. No, no, but what I'm saying is they didn't say that on their top three list. There's no,

I mean, it was in our van for hours when they tried. It was just kind of like, hey, we're going to throw this away. Do you guys want some? Oh, I should film you doing it.

Okay. Yeah, right. And then after he said the Papa John's a better thing, I stopped rolling and he was like, this is pretty good actually and it was in our van for like five hours so pretty good

pretty good drove overnight to Albany and at midnight that evening I got the notification that the in love there's no lobby ducts went up totally totally forgot any of that was happening oh shit I had nothing

it was like oh shit that's happening today I just forgot like I obviously we set it up and I knew yeah that it was happening but like we that remix remaster has been done for quite some time yeah yeah so I just it sounds crazy Taylor did Taylor did it's surgery on that motherfucker it sounds so fucking good I A beat it when you first sent it to me and it was like what the

how he just has grown he's just been he's just gotten that much better. And like, after 10 years, you would hope a guy's got that. Yeah, of course. Of course. And it's like, this is actual documented physical sonic proof that he has. And it's funny to think that like all of those songs together is one hour. And we were so scared of it being, it was like, this is too much. We got to cut all this. Yeah. But I think, I think for the sake of like the flow of the records, we picked the right nine songs. And absolutely. But it's cool that that stuff's out there digitally because I haven't had those bonus tracks on a computer ever. I've never had access to just listen to them.

Wow. I think I just didn't want it, maybe. Hmm. And now it's fun. Now it's out there. Yeah, that was, that was a special thing to happen while we were in Troy of all places. Yeah, yeah. And you went to closed casket, right?

Went to close casket headquarters for the first time. which like that's another poetic thing thinking about like where he started as a label when he put out isolation when he put out in love there's a law he was doing everything out of his living room yeah we slept in his living room next to boxes surrounded by boxes his bathroom

had record boxes there and now like he's able to finally be at that point where he separates the two things yeah it was a very poetic full circle day and weekend I would say. Did you pick these dates purposefully? Yeah, they want us to do the whole thing.

Yeah. And that just can never happen. Right. For any of our bands, really. But we saw these and we were like, oh, okay. That's so good. So did you eat in Albany? Let's start there.

So first off, no hyperbole here. And I'm sorry to Justin for for ungatekeeping. this. We got coffee at a place called Jacob Alejandro in Troy, New York. Yeah. One of the best cups of all time. Cold? Oh, yeah.

I got two things, Bo. I got my usual. Cold brew, oat milk, a little bit of vanilla. Gorgeous. And then I got a specialty thing that they do. A creme brulee latte. Oh. Dude, I fucking love crembrillet.

I damn near shitted myself on the spot. It's a miracle I didn't. Miraculous. Suck both down in record time. And I was just sitting there thinking like, why is this in Troy, New York? Yeah. What is it about Troy, New York,

that keeps making these amazing things? I took one sip of cremurele latte and Troy New York and thought to me, I could live here. This is it. A latte is so good it makes you think I could live here. Dude, I love Crembleau so much. I'm going to a baseball game later with my dad.

And I literally just thought like, where can we get Cremberle before this? Like, you just put that in my brain. I wasn't a huge Crembleau guy until Paris just a couple months ago. Oh, man. Yeah.

Cracking that fucker with a little spoon. Dude, it's great because most steakhouses will have them. And it's good. If you're eating at a good steakhouse, they're going to have good creme brule because it's like tradition. Well, I guess I talked to some bakers after being our buddy Haley, who sings an absent father, is like an incredible baker. And I was like, listen, I'll buy all the stuff. If you come and teach me, I'd make creme roulet. And they were like, that's one of the easiest things.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's custard and you put it in a. And then you fire it up. Well, you put it, what do they call it? It's when it's in water. And then you put that in the oven in the little thing. That's how it cooks. And then you toast the top and that's it.

Very easy. Oh, my God. Yeah. Outstanding. Yeah, totally forgot about all the others and lost stuff, which made for a very funny morning where it was like, I should tie something up. And then that made me very like,

it made me emotional to just think. I hadn't really processed at all. Yeah. Then we got dinosaur barbecue with cruelty. How was that? Here is cruelty's thoughts on dinosaur barbecue. All right, cruelty, we're at dinosaur barbecue. They're going to try deviled eggs for the first.

You pick that up with your hand. Pick it up. Get in there, brother. Deviled egg. Oh, Lord, it's a messy one. Yeah. Who's going to bite first? Oh, shit.

Hmm. Yeah. This is awesome. He likes, man. He likes it. He took a little bite. They housed it. Cool, he's eating good.

We got barbecue. Look at this big plate. Let's try some brisket. Brisket, rib, food pork. Delicious. What do we got here? We're in heaven. We're in heaven?

So good. Give me a big bite. No. Big bite. Ooh. Mani Give me a big bike Big back

Oh yeah You're a big asser Oh yeah You sick bastard There it is Dinosol barbecue Very nice Just unbelievable

And this is I can let the record show I've said this on the show Dozens of times now I never left the place with underwear And I made it. Wow.

I made it. It's a big weekend. And I know this isn't a week. This isn't an AG1 week, but I think a lot of that has to do with AG1. Yeah. Hell yeah, dude. We'll tell you more about it next week. But this week, we can tell you about, we can tell you about Manscaped.

Yeah. Wow. Tell me about touring with Manscaped. Another first. I finally, I'm surrounded by the stinkiest motherfuckers you ever saw, you ever seen. You know? They're on week five, though. It's fine.

Like, you're gonna stink. Some aspects of me, I'm sure, stink. Feet, maybe. But luckily, I had a product to cure that. The Manscape Footduster. Dude, I love the Footduster. I was spraying Trey's nuts with a Reviver from afar just to be like,

you'll thank me later. You're gonna use? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that if every touring musician was traveling with Manscape, like a full gear of Manscaped, the reviver and the preserver and body wash. If you had that.

Oh my God. You're unstoppable. Yeah, you're unstoppable. That was basically my kit. That's awesome. And ain't nobody. Can't nobody tell me I stank on any of them shows? That's awesome.

And that's all because of code hard lore, manscape.com. 20% off free shipping. Get you some mainscape. Stop stanking. No, you don't need to. It's a choice. They also just came out with, the brand new beard guy, like a full shaver.

Oh. Like a dedicated. It's called the handyman and it's like a dedicated shaver. Sure. That's pretty cool. No, like a like a to skin. Oh, like an electric shaver. An electric shaver.

That's the word. Yeah. Those scare me. But since Monscape is making it, I ain't scared. It's also a whatnot top. Yeah. When are we doing what not? I swear to God.

I swear to God, I'm coming back. Not this Friday. Not tomorrow because it's 8-1-8. It's a big day. It's a big day. But in August, the end of August, we will be back on whatnot. We've got so many things for you. So many, truly so many things.

So many new exclusive one-of-one things to give away. Should I show one? I have it right here. Yeah, let's see it. I want this thing. I'm jealous. I know, I know. Wow.

So we have, thanks to our friends of the show from Kanga Coolers, a one-of-one hard-lore cooler cooler. Yeah, what the fuck? We know what's crazy? It's huge. You know what's awesome about this? It's got the little magnetic so you can reach in. Dude, this couldn't have been three of three. Right.

Reach in, get your Diet Coke. And it's magnetic. Damn. That's going right on the whatnot. I'm entering that giveaway. I'll tell you what. You're going to have to beat me for that. That's crazy.

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gets to watch again, so you get to be part of that, ask questions, do whatever, man. It's the best. Also, let me just say, Harmer's Way just announced a big full U.S. tour. What? With freshwater ingrown and giant bomb. How about that? That's going to be October 18th through November 16th, which is somebody's birthday. And it's full U.S.

It's going to be fucking off. I'm like really genuinely so excited to tour again. I can't wait to talk about it. I can't wait for you to be done and to maybe see you in the middle at a show that we can talk about tomorrow. Yeah, and I just got confirmation that when this episode comes out, the tour will have been announced yesterday. Tickets are on sale tomorrow Friday.

That's right. So get your tickies, please. Get tickets for FYA as well. I'm playing. You're playing. Hard Lord is going to be there. Oh, yeah. Dude, I forgot you were playing.

Yeah, Weapon X is playing. It's going to be awesome. Life is good. Dinosaur barbecue. I finally left to that shit myself. Can't believe it. Which was huge. Like, real, like, nobody believed me.

But Justin was there every time. He was like, I am. Keep this between you and me? Yeah, between you and me? He shits his pants. I was not going to hate this. Like 12 people will enjoy that. Yeah.

That sounds just like him. But we played Empire Underground, which I've never played before. Have you played there? No. Really cool spot. We made like a dying breed ripoff shirt. Oh yeah.

That was fucking awesome. That shirt was dope. Gone, dude. Beautiful. Which that's where hardcore is now, well. You can make an exclusive shirt for Albany. and sell them.

Dude, Heypred. Prognosticators. Yeah, but that's hate breed. I know, no, no,

I know. I know. But like, I would look at that model. Yeah. The business model of, I survived the Chicago hate period.

Sure. And being like, how does that work? But they're playing a two to five thousand people. I know. I'm just saying, I'm, I'm like wondering,

like, does that work? Yeah. And it's crazy. I think a little, I think a little bit of that is where we are. And I hope a little, bit of that is people from Albany knowing that we

we fly the flag everywhere we go. It literally just dawned to me as you were waving your flag that dying breed and dead body have the same initials. I didn't even catch that. Oh, you didn't think about it? That's why the DB on the back. I get it. I got it. I got it. No, I did not.

I did not catch that. Really cool venue. It was very, like saw a lot of familiar faces that have been coming to see all bands for a long time. Yeah, yeah, cool. And this was, by this time, this is probably the most styled in that we were. Yeah. I'm getting, I gotta get used to like, I can, ah, all day, but like actually physically moving.

It's weird. It takes time. And there's like certain riffs where you got to get it in. Yep. Absolutely. Whenever you're going, bum, bum, bum, bum, that's when you can go. Yeah, yeah. really enjoyed the clip I saw of you and Taylor headbanging like identically

just like in unison the same way it was very it was touching the wrist what the riff called for gates to hell was I was like really solid that night I remember Trey didn't like the not nea stick mister note you know damn just perfect they're they're super dialed in tight man Vomif Fourth starts there's set. Kane, dude, he's so good at being frontman. I don't know if I can find videos of this, but he's basically just like, I'm not playing until you move up.

And there's a lot of people in the room, but I think being in Albany, it's like, this is going to be violent. So I'm going to get that way. He's just like, I don't want to play to you. I'm not going to stand in front. And his entire system of commanding people is so pro. He's very funny.

How do you feel about like if you can pull it off, I think it's the best move. What? To come to like get people to move. Because like the move up, move up is like so fucking, you know,

it's a, it's a meme, you know? It's a, yeah, it's literally a meme. And it's like embarrassing, you know,

to do. I probably won't say it, you know? Yeah. If they don't want to be up, I'm not going to address it. I don't think, I don't think Harvest Way has ever said it.

Just play, you know? You just play. Let, let them fight. Yeah. Yeah, totally. But that's what I believe.

But when it works, when somebody does it and it works and they can make it funny, come on. So cool. Loved it. Cruelty has just been having these unbelievable sets, all four shows. That's so awesome. They sound so good. People go off like crazy. Like every night when you do the like, you know, give it up for gates of hell and mom and forth.

Yeah. Give it up for cruelty. Yeah. It's like a raucous applause. Wow. And I think it's like we talked about in Santa Feary episode is like thousands of people around the country collectively being like, holy shit, a band from Japan is here. And they rip. And they rip and they're heavy.

And they like they're wearing a fucking all out war shirt or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got it. All right.

I'm going to go hard. and they're selling shirts. Like, it is beautiful to see that they, their immediate thought is like, okay, well, we got to come back. So cool. Whereas like, how demoralizing could that have been for it to be like, fuck, man, maybe we can't go back for a while. Which that's how we feel torn anywhere else but Japan.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's so cool. Yeah, that is a beautiful thing. um sang with sogabag doing the murder ball thing every night every night every night dude people killing each other for this for these guild and blanks you know just absolutely murdering but it's cool they they they've got that you can sound that good and he does all the banter

and that you can still have a fun little gimmicks to throw in there yeah that's that's what they figured out all the little things. They got the memes. Yeah, they figured out how to do like, we're hard, we're serious, but there's a little tongue in cheek. They did. And also, they just sent me their favorite food places. Here is Devin.

Devon's favorite food stuff. Let's see. What's up, our lord? This is Devin Swank from Singh with Sugabugabug. And my three favorite restaurants on this tour was definitely Herbies in Albany. Wizard Burger in Albany. There's milk milkshakes came in cludge. and then probably a tropical cafe smoothie in Columbia, South Carolina, because after an entire week of eating processed food, I definitely needed a vegetable.

So I had a large green smoothie to clear out the pipes. Dude, he has like a California accent. It's crazy. Yeah, it's wild. He sounds like an S&L sketch. What's up hard lore? He sounds like the California. What is it?

the green the Californians. Yeah. He literally sounds like, never get off. Yeah, he's awesome. Dude, Herbie's in Albany. Yeah, tell me.

Tell me. It's like a, it's like a smash burger version of In and Out. Like the vibe in there, the aesthetic is very much like, hey, we went to In and out one time.

We loved it. Yeah. But the shakes smoke in and outs. Really? The fries are plentiful. It's like a whole paper bag full of them. And then the burger was like classic smash burger.

And they're open till two, Warren. Dude, that's my new biggest thing in this, in this post-lockdown world that we're in. I need stuff open. Just stay open. Stay open. People don't need jobs. I know. It's crazy. Here's, here's said from Sanguosugabog's three favorite places. All right. Oh, we got all. What's up? Seth from Sanguosigaberg. Three favorite restaurants for four. McDonald's. Mike's was good

Yeah And What's up with? Oh Boo Yeah he threw that in there That's a little real Yeah too

Here's uh Drew from Sangu Sengu Sogobog's three favorite place What's up I'm Drew from Sanguzyz Sogobo And my favorite restaurants From this two I've been Canadian

McDon Canadiens And Mike's Pete Oh Mike's Nice Mike's pizza Was the place we had

And Amityville Yeah The square vodka slices Love that Here is Cody from Sing of Suga Boggs places. Here's the grand finale. Uh-oh. In Succo Bogg, the top three restaurants.

Number one, Rappi is to put my home to town. I'm going to shove it on my faces right now. It's mid-meal. Number two, Canadian Tim Horton. Number three is Herbie and New York, all this. Yeah. Wow. Okay.

Canadian Tim Hortons does go. It does go. Herbies went fucking. crazy, dude. And what was wizard? I didn't go to Wizard Burger, but they were, the first thing they said

when I saw them in Albany was like, have you been to Wizard Burger? Dude, if a place is at all mystical, I'm going. I would go. They closed at seven or I would have been there. See,

that's, okay, never mind. No, but Herbie's two in, two in the morning on a Sunday, Bo? Beautiful.

Beautiful. That's all I ask. Again, it's in and out. You know, like, uh, It's just there.

It's there for you. And the shake, I cannot stress this enough. This is probably why I sound so bad today. Yeah, right. The shake put me over the edge. But holy fuck, I wouldn't take it all. I wouldn't take it back. What a show?

You flew out the next day? What the next day? Went back, flew out of Newark again. Which fucking sucked ass. Do you have to drive from Albany to Newark? Yeah. So we left. We got to the hotel like two.

Yeah. Got up at six. Oh. Dude, such a waste of money. That's when the hotel thing is like, God damn it. But then there's like, what are you going to do? You're going to stay somewhere. No one lives by Newark Airport.

No, you have to stay. And we would have had, and it's just like, would have sucked to drive. And I don't know. It just made more sense to kind of get two nights. We shouldn't have flown out of Newark was really the thing. Should have flown out of Albany. But renting the car in Newark, you know. Yep.

They get you. It's just, it is what it is. All right. What's today? Was flights and everything okay? Checking your items? No problem? Not an issue. Not a single morsel of an issue.

I keep hearing about people having, you know, so many issues and delays and lost items and things. And knock wood, I've been very fortunate. I love knock wood. I think that has to do with people having layovers. We really try to fly direct. Yeah. Like we make, we have a strong emphasis on flying direct. Yeah.

That makes a lot of sense. And obviously you can't all the time. Like, LDB, you can't get to directly. Detroit, you really can't get to directly. So there's some risks, but we, we, uh, we really are mindful with connections. Like, we leave two, three hours between them. Smart. So that.

If your first flight gets delayed, you're not royally fucked. Right. Because if it does get delayed, your shit ain't making it. It's a nightmare. Straight up. For this tour, we shan't be doing that, thankfully. Yeah, you're driving everywhere. We're driving everywhere.

A van's good. Just got it all fixed up. I mean, it's obviously, this is all just my eyes here, perspective-wise. But what I see is a completely different world of people who, are so happy to be at the show. Wow. And happy to be participating in it. The room is full. Most nights, people are like fighting to be in the front. Oh, that's so sick. Unheard of, dude. Unheard of, truly. The doldrums of like, like 2015, when touring the, through in the States, like, there were some rough spots where, like, because the thing happens where people kind of cycle

out. Yeah. You know, they go someplace for their college tenure. Yeah. And then after four years, they move or whatever. So scenes are going to fluctuate, obviously. And that's a perfectly normal thing. But, you know, there are people who are, like, carrying this cross and, like,

bearing this cross during those times. And it must be, I'm so interested in seeing that, you know. Yeah, I feel like it's going to be really cool for you guys. And it's like finally, you know. Oh, we can talk about our show. Okay. I mean, they'll, they'll figure it out. They'll, yeah, okay.

The lineup goes up tomorrow, but they'll, they'll know. Yeah, they'll look at yours and go, that's the same day. Yeah. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Okay, that's right. But, yeah, man, all four of these shows were amazing. It's so funny to do a two-hour podcast episode about four shows. As is my right.

So you're saying you're, you're sum up of, everything is that there's more people and more excitement. Yeah, big time. I mean, more excitement. Bands sound fucking amazing. Every band sounds good. And now little solid state amps are awesome. What happened?

Seymour Duncan, baby. It's crazy because our whole band is flying, just flies with the amps we use at practice now. Yeah. So if you're listening, your sound varies greatly based on the amp you're using. Of course. We get to dial in at practice, fly to some show, sound exactly the same.

Yep. It's crazy. It's awesome, man. It's such a different, I got all of my touring stuff ready to go. Yeah, I saw that. So it's pedalboard amp all in one thing, all in a pelican, all sort of nice and neat thanks to Nico from Knock Luce who fucking, he cracked the code

and then just shared his wealth with everyone. He literally had a list, copy and pasted that he had ready because so many people were asking him. Really? His setup is just so crazy efficient or what? It's super efficient where like you use all of the Pelican and there's like storage.

And so I have all my cables, all of my entire, everything besides a cab on a guitar is in one little box. And including strings and tools and whatever the fuck. All ready to rip. Huge. And just like,

what all of that would have to go in years ago? Oh, dude. The fucking, it's in a roly pelican, you know? The fucking amp case that my, my main head is in was, it weighs 80 pounds.

Yeah, and it's the worst. You got, you got two guys carrying it. I'm still going to bring it, which sucks. I'm still going to bring a backup just in case. That's the backup, though.

You load it one time, you leave it in the back of the trailer, right? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Gotta have a backup. Gotta have a backup. I think now we head over to Discord for questions. Love the Discord for questions. We're nearing 2,000 members.

Wow. We need to figure out a special treat for the 2000th new person. Join the Discord. It's linked on all of our stuff, linked in the description. The Discord is the best way to know about what we got going on. And we're going to do, we're, someday soon, we're going to do a watch-along, maybe some kind of monster. Oh, that sounds fun. Yeah.

Lots of people, lots of different topics, things being discussed, good wrestling group in there, all kinds of good stuff. A lot of questions. And a lot of, and this is the best way to get your questions. Yeah. This is the real fun part. All right. Yeah. Yeah.

First question is from Pizza Dog. Have Vans gotten better? the vehicle, not the shoe. No. No. Vans, as we know it, as touring guys, do not exist. We have one of the last ones. We have a classic 15 passenger that we thought needed a new transmission, which was like, okay, well, do we put $3,000 into it, or do we figure something else out? Do we rent? Don't do it. You know, luckily it was not the transmission. It was something sending an improper code. Got it fixed, sorted. Bands are touring in these fucking transits now.

Yeah, and the transit sucks, man. You can't lie down. Which, you know, maybe is safer. Yeah. As we've seen. Yeah. But, dude, you got to, like, you're going to drive eight to ten hours. People got to be sleeping.

I cannot stay awake at 10 a.m. It's impossible for me. The sun's out and I just fall asleep. I can't help it. And can you do that sitting up? Fuck no. Okay. So you're dying.

I'm dying. Okay. I'm dying. I have to lay down. Or at least lean and then your back, it's fucked up. So no, vans are terrible now. Terrible. Yeah, what was everybody in?

What was the bog in? Because I suppose if you have a sprinter with a loft. I think they have a sprinter. Yeah. That's, you know. Yeah. But dude, and I am wearing, you know, the mattie shirt. I don't know how I feel about laying down anymore

or not being buckled in. And again, I don't know. I don't know the situation at all, but my mind extrapolated it. Yeah, of course. You know, and I'm thinking like, if it happened to harm's way, I'm never buckled in.

None of us are. So it's like. I ain't never been had a seatbelt on in a 40, 350, ever. So maybe the sprinter, you know, maybe I wouldn't want to be in the loft. Fuck, it's so scary, dude. It is. So fans have gotten worse.

Fans have gotten worse. Everything's worse. other than the shows. Holden asked, do you enjoy it still? Would you go on long tours again? I just don't think I can time-wise and life-wise. I think I could. I don't know if I can.

Yeah. You know, I physically, I could do it. But I don't know if the rest of my life would allow me to do that. Biggest expense on tour, personal as a band. Well, yeah. Do you want to answer that? Yeah, I am about to. We'll be touring plenty.

And we're going to see. It's the first time, I'll tell you one thing. It's the first time where I'm going to be touring for a long time without living with someone. So taking care of like the cats and my apartment and stuff is like a whole new anxiety, which is great. But yeah, physically I think I'll be okay. And honestly, you know, you got age you one and manscape. I got, boy, boy, do I. And, you know, I'm just, I'm hearing all these good things

and having been to all the fest and shows we've been to over the last year, it's like, it's making me excited. Like, I'm excited to tour for a month, which is. Right. Because in the old days, the biggest stress was like, fuck, I really hope this tour's good. Yeah.

And I genuinely don't think you have to worry about that. That's fucking crazy. I really, really don't. It's awesome. Cloaked asks biggest expense on tour personal as a man as a band has to be gas gas in hotels. Yeah. For you it's beverages. It's food, 100%.

100%. Yeah. Typically, it's going to be the same answer for me. I don't buy, do you buy, do you like shop on tour? I mean, my tours are four days long now. So if Collie see a thingy he likey, he likey. calling by, I think he'd like you. But I would say

if I'm doing like a month long tour or something in the past, there would probably be like a store. Like at some point where I'd be like, can't wait to go there. You know? Gotcha. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like in the old days, it'd be like, gonna hit double RL in Brooklyn, you know? Yeah. It's funny when I

all my previous touring too, especially after 2018, the band was like my sole source of income. So like on the road, I'm in DIY punk mode. I'm saving every penny that I can't. Every dollar you spend is a dollar you don't get from this tour. Exactly. It's going to be a little different now. So I wonder. I wonder. I'm excited. I don't know. Yeah. It's going to be awesome. The shows are going to be good. And I think that's step one. Anyone plans to go overseas? Of course. Yeah. Plans hopes. Plans and I hope to do. No plans yet.

Yeah. Same. Yeah, for sure. I can guarantee that Harmsway will be everywhere, but there's nothing on paper just yet. Jackie Gazooz asked, what got better than before and what was good but sucks now. I would say shows in general are better than before. A lot of things are really expensive now. Like food is expensive. Yeah. Dude, I'm like gas. Like our van was a hundred dollars to fill up. Yeah, it's going to be double that probably. Four years ago, yeah.

So it's just like, holy shit. What, like hitting the drive-thru and getting food on band used to be 40 bucks, you know? Yeah, 30, 40 bucks. The $10 per diem is like still a thing. And that's 10, you can't eat anywhere for $10. No, you literally can't. 7-Eleven. Like, you can get the wings.

Wow. Chevy asked what was the best and worst thing you've had to eat and drink on this tour. Drink was the creme brulee latte at Jacob Alejandro and Troy New York. Eat not counting the pizza post. Oh, man, I had an unbelievable McDonald's in Connecticut after the show. They did you proud? Oh, my God. Like the fry that I ate when I was five years old.

Like I was right back there. I missed the old fries. Okay. Hit it. How do you survive without a bidet? Well. This is not sponsored. This is not sponsored.

But the medicated dude wipes. Brother. It's the only thing I can do now. Yeah, they got some witch hazel in there. They got some aloe in there. it is it is really funny how now that I'm so accustomed to having a bidet when I don't have access to one it's you're right wrong like you forget red meat bloody sensitive Jesus rare there's because just think about this logically yeah if there's shit anywhere else in your body you're not wiping it with a piece of paper right you're in a hazmat suit pouring ass scrubbing it You know, scrub.

Yep. Why would you do that to your ass? Respect your ass. Be better. Use water. Judo Chop Viking ass. How was it hanging with cruelty? I love them.

They're cool? They're very cool. Zuma's English is like insane. Yeah, his English is really good. And he's very funny. And he knows it. Okay. So it's awesome.

So like when we did the Papa John's video again, yeah, it wrapped. And not only, not only did he say, this is actually pretty good. He also said, I'm entertainer first. He like knows that he's putting it on, you know. That's good. What is the most painful point A to point B in America?

Dude, I mean, I've done Chicago to L.A. twice in a year. Yeah, and Denver, Salt Lake to anywhere is the most painful. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, so what I was going to say is I've done that. Yeah. It's never as bad as it sounds. No, it starts and you're like, holy shit, this is going to be a long drive.

Yeah. And then it's like a pretty pleasant long drive. I would, oh, this is a good question. Yeah. Because this is making me really think. Oh, I've said this before for sure, but we did, you know, basically Miami to Chicago. That was brutal. Because you drive for eight hours and you're still in Florida.

Yeah. Like that some bitch keeps going It's long It's crazy Um very long You're right about It's treacherous Salt Lake to like anywhere

It's pretty pretty rough Like when you're doing When you're doing the bay To Reno To Salt Lake Yeah That's a wild one

It's called treachery Yeah Ugh Oh and also the like El Paso going towards L.A. Those are long fucking drives. Texas L.A. is long.

Fuck. It adds up, man. There's nothing out there. When you finally get to El Paso Yeah. From L.A., it's like I don't think we're going to make. And if you do it in the summer or two, it's brutal.

That's probably my answer. Probably. Okay. Because that's like, even if the AC is working, It's not working. No AC works that hard. Yeah. Especially in a 15 passenger van.

What fast food has gotten better since your last time for? Anything? I mean, the beefy crunch is back at Taco Boat. So it's like I never loved. Yeah. I think McDonald's has just gotten better. Well, it literally has. So much more.

Yeah. Yeah. The new buns are. fucking unreal. Dude, I made a, I made a proclamation alone to myself the other day. But I'm, I'm done with McDonald's. There are $3.30. You don't need them.

I don't need them. I got a, I get a fucking quarter pounder. Get a quarter pound. Well, the thing is, yeah, it's kind of, well, use the app and do the two for 359 thing or whatever. Because most of the time, that's on there as a deal. Two for $3.59 McDonald's. So you just like, ordering all a card at McDonald's is.

not a good thing to do. No. It really adds up. And my fucking wife, I love her to death. She never gives me a meal to order. It's always individual items. And I'm like,

honey, I'm dying here. You're bleeding me dry. You're bleeding me dry. McChicken, a McDouble, and a small fry, and a medium drink. That's a hundred.

That's a hundred bucks. Yeah Yeah, I'm a double Quarter Pounder of cheese And I will say also What has gotten better Is just not being an idiot And knowing how to look up

The amazing local stuff Oh, dude What's your Do you want to gate keep that Or you want to, I feel like you should let people in Yeah, no, I either check At first I check Open Yale Yeah

And then I'll look at What's the fucking thing called? Don't you do TripAdvisor? Trip advisor is a big one. Yeah. And then there's like the infatuous or something. Something like that.

I'll check one of those. Of like a list of like top ten. Boom, in this city. There's always something. And then I'll out and then I'll put on an APB to one local. Just be like, is this true?

Smart. And if it's a resounding yes, I'm there. Smart. And this, in Troy's case, Justin was like, we're going here and here. And I go,

don't say this on the podcast? No, he didn't. But I will say he said that Brody wrestled in Albany and they went to both Jacob Alah, and he's a tough critic. Yeah.

He's a sick fuck. And they went, they did the combo of Jacob Alejandro and Herbys and he was like blown away. So yeah, they're fucking good. Awesome.

Should drums be backlined or should drummers stop being lazy and bring their own shit? I think for the most part Should drummers stop being lazy Bring their own shit? Yeah, that's not that's, I wouldn't say that's really

How the case. It's more like, there's no space in the venue For five drum kits. So it's not an issue of laziness. I, when, when we're on a tour And we find out that people are sharing shit, it's like Because that just means more for everybody. Yeah.

More space, you know. But I will say, say sharing drums to me seems as a non-drummer seems like sharing a guitar. It's a very like personal physical thing that you're used to. So it's a strange thing. I understand, you know, not sharing breakables and just using shells. And I think that that makes the most sense. It sucks that it is, it has to be that way for space for reasons. Because like think about just drum cases. Where are five bands drum case is going to go? All the deads have to go back in the trailer.

Exactly. And that sucks. It sucks so bad. So I think maybe aside from the headliner, everybody should be using one kit. Yeah. Or using the headliner's kit. But I think in Sengo Sogo Box case, that's not possible. Right.

Of course. You don't have a kick drum. Yep. So everybody used Gates to Hell's kit, I think, and then part of Vomitforth's, which was great. And that's just that's the way it has to be. That shows like this. Yeah. Unless you're doing, you know, a big, like cannibal corpse when we did that.

Like obviously there's room for everything. Yes. And we would still have to fucking load out the second we were done. Yes. Because the venue is out. And that's how it is too. So these bigger venues, it's like, all right, guys, come on. Get the fuck out.

Yeah. The second you're done, you're loading out. So it's like, it's much easy. And also the fucking house guys are going to love you if that kid is staying. if those cabs are staying. They love that. Oh, they put that note in the iPad with a big old smile on their face. It's beautiful.

So, no, I think that drums should be backlined at hardcore shows. The same with cabs. Every fucking venue that hosts heavy music should have two Mesa Cabs and an 8x by 12. I would be so happy if I never had to lug around Cabs ever again. 100%. I hate gosh. Who's farting loudest in the van? It's not me.

It's not George? Miles. Really? He's sick in the fucking head, dude. The dark horse, dude. I know. It's always the little guys. Wow.

Which he's not. He could probably deadlift more than me, but he's, something wrong with him, something's gone bad in there. What about in your band? Nick. Yeah, I can see that. Always the little guys.

Well, and you know what's funny. He's not a little now. I know. He's fucking jacked. He's a monster now. But that's the thing about a jacked little guy? Yeah. I would bet my life they'd be far.

He used to be vegan. He's no longer vegan. And I don't know what is better or worse for his gas or anything. But he's a funny guy. So he'll just like comedically go like, huh, you know. Yeah, that's, that's my own case. Yeah. Favorite Long Island's pizza spot.

Oh, Solet. Mio. Yeah, that's the, that's the spot. It's the goat. The tortellini. Oh, we kind of answered this one already. Flying Gala asks, should bands start using comfort colors to print their merch on? So I posted a poll on our Twitter the other day. And granted, I put them in order of what I thought it should be, and it did go that way. So I kind of felt, I felt like I was leading a little bit, but no, I agree. You like L.A. a pair. but you still think comfort colors is the way? Because I know that the public consensus

is that's what they want. It was 49% of like 3,000 votes was comfort colors. Then it was Gildenhammer. Then it was LA apparel. That was interesting to me. Same. Then it was L.A. Apparel. And then it was Bayside.

And Bayside, I honestly, I threw in is almost, I almost did Bayside slash other. Because there are people who were saying fucking Dude, shockaware? Shockware. Who did? Chakaware is probably my favorite. And all style.

That's fucked up. I know. That's actually disgusting. But my point is, I think if more people had exposure to Bayside, because it's relatively new and expensive, so they're not very popular yet, I think L.A. apparel would drop even lower. I think Shaka smokes everything. I've yet to try it.

It's not. Like I can't wait to print something on track. Yeah, I'm excited. But I just think comfort colors for them, this is a comfort color shirt. It's a large. I washed it once. It fits me perfectly. Right.

I have the body type where it fits, a large fits me perfectly. Not everyone is the same. Also, not every comfort colors large is the same. I'm noticing, yes, it's when it's dyed. The fucking, I'll tell you what I'm over is the pepper color. that one gets fucked up. I think it looks awesome. They look incredible.

But the sizes are just wildly inconsistent. Yeah. And but this is a 1717 blank. It's just like a normal cover color is black. And all of my ones like this with the dyed tag, which is like an indicator, they all fit perfect. Again, that fucking twitching tongues butter. The butter. The butter.

It's actually butter. Yeah. I looked it up. They call it butter. Days printed like a banana yellow one. Fits me perfect. All the like dyed color. Yeah, they're awesome.

They're the best ones. Bizarre. So yeah, you probably should mostly because people want it. Yeah. And isn't it Haynes? No, it's Gildon.

No, it's Gilden. It is Gilded. Yeah. Luke asks when y'all want food. Do you all use the drive-through? Go inside. Use the app. Drive-through.

It just depends. If you have a trailer, you can't. Yeah, I've done it. I don't. We've done it. We do it. I don't recommend it. But I avoid it.

What I love is like a off the highway drive-through where there's like huge parking lots. So there isn't like the thing. I mean, I run into the thing when I've fucking, you heard me curb rash. It happens. We do it. That's right. Louis 24X asked is there a vault of hardlore episodes on standby for when you guys are on tour kind of now there is there's a there's two three yeah three red I mean there's a it's already

we got a bunch in the tank though episode wait there's three yeah okay the two over yeah and then the one at tailors yeah is that it okay So we got a couple ready to go for a rainy day. Could have done one this week, but I know that this would be fun when it was fresh. Yeah, yeah. I also bought a computer and will be traveling with my stuff for when we... I think it'll be fun to do a... I'm on tour and I want to die episode, you know?

Absolutely. Yeah. Oh, man. This is an interesting question. Darkusarchus has... If a band in their early 30s wanted to start playing shows in 2023, 2024, what do you recommend they do first? If you're in your, I'm just going to assume that you've already been going to shows.

I'm going to assume you're not like brand new. Yeah. If you're brand new to the scene, I don't know. I don't know. How you found this at the early 30s. If you're brand new to the scene, you got to go to shows and meet the promoters. that's like step one but don't be weird about it

no you can't punish him but you gotta like know who's who and then one day when you introduce yourself or after I mean to say after you've introduced yourself and you're around said promoter say hey I'm actually have a band

if you ever need an opener like let me know yeah they're gonna remember that yeah absolutely every promoter is gonna go through a list of bands go oh what was that fucking guys oh and then boom you know but a lot of the time

the material maketh the band you know I don't know nothing about this Balmora band yeah but I think I know that they're popping off right now everybody loves their demo or whatever they put out

therefore they're starting to be on a bunch of stuff yeah so sometimes you got to make something dope and then if you build it they will come yeah it's in many ways it's simultaneously the easiest time to get your music out and the most difficult time to have it heard.

To stand out. See, you do have to have something that stands out. For sure. But it's not, I'll tell you what, man. I'm finding that it really isn't, I'm hearing more and more music put out by people who I don't know. Yeah. Which is a good thing.

A lot. Yeah, it's great. You know, whereas 10 years ago, that wasn't the case. More than 10 years ago. But, you know, there was a point in time where it was like, if you weren't kind of, because no one would know about it, wouldn't be around. if it wasn't from a friend group that already had an established output.

You know what I mean? So I think if you're trying to play shows, you just got to have a good demo. Go to your local shows. Me people. I mean, going to shows, being there and supporting and like, mosh and good is step one. And just, you know, just network.

Network, man. But don't punish. Don't be weird, yeah. Don't be weird. but plant a seed be there be present this is a good question

rain supreme three asks who's the mechanic in the band or do y'all just leave it in the hands of the Lord mechanic like auto mechanic yeah we have an outstanding mechanic named Greg no in the band like the guy on tour who knows what's going on

uh James James who literally picked up the van from Greg two days ago James is like He's very He's the He's like the Yeah he's just like

He's owned a bunch of cars And doesn't he drive the van When you're not on tour Typically But that's But that's also like you gotta We live in a place where it gets so cold That you have to

Of course You can't let it sit Of course But yeah it's James for sure He's the guy who was aware of Fucking oil changes Break lines tires All the shit

ours used to be Mike Ah yes Mike very handy man Dude You don't even know man The things I've The ways that Mike has come in clutch Hmm

He really like his car Yeah that's good He read the manual for his car And like knew how to fix any problem with it Oh He just read through the manual And was like oh okay If this is happening then it's this

He just he can diagnose any problem. And, like, knows what parts are and shit, which is just so bizarre to me. And he's like a chef mechanic as well, meaning like if we're playing in a school in Germany

and we're staying there and there's nothing to eat, he can go through the kitchen and find something. Yeah, yeah. Wow. He really can do it all. He's the man. Game Hen asked, I've noticed, young bros projects are in C Sharp Standard. Is this the hardest tuning ever? To me, it is. Sounds great.

There, I've said it before, but there is something to... You're one string away from C-sharp standard. Yeah, I know, but there is something to the tone, I'm sorry, to the pitch of a growl matching the tuning of a guitar. There's something to that. I don't know what it is, but a lot of times certain things click a little better than others. Yeah. You know, not all harm's weight. Like bodies are in C-sharp, you know?

Yeah, exactly. I mean, prior to isolation, Harm's Way was in different tunings on every release. So it's kind of like, you can hear, you can hear it settle. And then on isolation, it was like, oh, this worked. But it's funny that drop B is just C sharp. Yeah. It's the same thing.

Like if you were, if you tune your top, drop B is C sharp standard, but with the B, the first ring in B, right? I believe so. So you're basically in C sharp standard too. The high E is a B. Yeah. And everything else is, what is that? F sharp.

F sharp G. F sharp. I think it's F sharp G. E. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's something. That's C Sharp standard. So you're right there.

We're professionals. We're pros, dude. I don't know. Yeah, I still have mine written down. What's the like being straight edge and touring with big potheads? I don't know. For me. You either, there's one.

There's one, there's two kinds of big potheads to tour with. You either get Miles or you get kale. Ah. You know, kale who's like, I need to smoke weed. Yeah. Or today's not happening. But Miles smokes and he punders. Yeah, you would never know this, but I'm pretty high right now.

Just checking my phone to see if my dad's calling me. Nope. Hey, dad. Hey, pop. We were saying before the show how funny it would be to have my dad on and just punish about God. So you fuck with God or what? This is pretty good.

Oh, assuming the band is driving on tour, how do you decide the driving duties? It kind of just happens. It really just kind of naturally does it. James is the day, for us, typically, James is the daytime driver. I'm the nighttime driver, typically. I can't stay awake during the day.

And like, let's be honest, I doubt the other guys give a shit because not driving is fucking. fucking dope. Driving sucks. Yeah. You want to be the driver. Be the driver.

I don't know how like Taylor always drives, right? Yep. Or like Nick Jet, like always famously is always the driver. It's like, how do you do that? Yeah. I can't do that. Favorite, a real life idiot asks, who's your favorite bog member and why is it Drew? Honestly, it might, it might be Drew and I like them all.

Drew is the TM. So he's very. like coherent and level-headed. Not that the rest of them aren't. I forgot a huge moment from this tour. This is why we do it. After the Connecticut show, this is

and again, this is one of those things that might not ever be funny to anyone but me, Drew and said, who witnessed it? Where after Dead Body plays, a guy is like on his way out of the show. And I'm standing to the side of the venue, like pretty kind of far away talking to both Drew

and said, and a guy comes out, you know, he's leaving, he's out, he's done, in a shirt that just has an outline of the state of Connecticut, no words, just an outline of the state of Connecticut. He looks at me and he goes, dude, you fucking incredible, fucking guitar,

daps me up and leaves. Fucking guitar. Fucking guitar. To the baseball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thinking, why do people confuse you and Taylor so much? I don't know, but it's like, that makes it so much better. Yeah, of course. Because even if it was Taylor.

The tight horns too. Fucking guitar. As the, as like the thing you have to say about a live man you just saw. Just like guitar? Fucking microphone. Yeah. High hats? Unbelievable.

It was, it was unbelievable. It changed everything. Because now I'm just going to see everybody. and be like, dude, fucking guitar. Holy shit. Oh. A champ. Machines 95.

Is there an album slash artist that has been on repeat during drives or played the most any genre there sure is? And his name is Longmont Potion Castle. You may be hearing a little bit of more about him later. Wow. What's your answer, Bill? James plays gambling podcasts and like sports betting podcast. podcasts a lot and AM radio. AM radio?

Dude, he listens to AM sports radio. Chris does too. They're fucking psychos. That's brutal. Yeah. With me, the chances of me starting,

of me doing a late night drive and you're not hearing rumors is... Rumors is the one? I play rumors a lot. Wow. It's great to drive to. Yeah. I'm a big, like,

movie score guy driving. I can see that. See, that would low me to sleep. Oh, Hans Zimmer Live at Prague, you're not sleeping. You're not sleeping. You're crashing that fucker. You're crashing that fucker.

I am the pirate. Straight up, dude. I'm crashing with that. What is the wildest cruelty USA food hot take aside from CT pizza? Papa Johnson fucking... Papa Johns is they're saying. I will say, I liked what they had... I don't think this is hot.

This is only hot because of the... second part of it, but they said that Waterburger tastes like Japanese prison food which makes me think A, I love you, B, I got to get my ass to Japanese prison. Straight up. Let's go.

Do they like In and Out? Oh yeah. They were like, why is this in the same conversation? Yeah, there you go, guys. They couldn't fathom why people talk about Waterberger and In-N-N-N-Out in the same breath. Please.

They're like, this is so different. So. Waterburger is basically Burger King. Yeah. It's between Burger King and Wendy's, which I like both. I like all three. Yeah, I do,

I like it, but it just doesn't belong in the combo. Agreed. I agreed. Let's see. Oh, what are y'all's deserted island movies? You can pick two each on Broken Wings, S.

I wonder how different hours were going to be. Mine would be YouTube premium. And that's cheating. And hollowed out inside it. Yeah. It would be YouTube premium. And because I already say it, if I have my phone with two movies on it, one of them is YouTube premium with all my downloaded videos. And.

You know that's not the question. That's such a cop out. So it would be YouTube premium. two deserted island movies Ratatoui and Silence of the Lambs probably That's a good one

Could watch any day anytime Yeah Mine would probably be Return of the King Really It's hey if you're on a desert island And you got a three and a half Plus hour version of one of the

It just would kill me to only have part three It's got I've realized it's got like my favorite parts collectively, so it's like fine. And I don't know, probably something the godfather, you know.

I believe in America. I might actually do like departed instead of Ratatouille. Dude, fucking departed. Because it's so pleasant to start and stop over again, you know. It's a perfect movie. It's fucking awesome.

Brad is a good question. Bread asks, what is the etiquette with watching opening local bands on tour? Do you try to watch as many as you can. And I think that is the trying to watch as many as you can is that's the that's the that's the answer. Like look, sometimes you have to go do stuff or sometimes you want to go to the gym or what are you going to do? You know, that's once the show starts like that's the time you have

that day. Yeah. Yeah. Straight up because you're driving, loading, sound checking. Boom. Doing whatever bullshit. And then it's like, okay, we have 45 minutes before doors. It's just like, God damn it. Johnny Sledge asked, are there any cities that may have been slept on pre-COVID that are now popping off? All of the ones you just said? We just played a B-market tour.

And it rocked. And every show was pretty much sold out. The biggest foot in my mouth I've ever had was over St. Louis. St. Louis is much different now. Really? Yeah. I years and years ago tweeted about St. Louis

like not being great to play. and was immediately reprimanded by locals. Right. Apologized and then have been proved wrong many times over. I mean, that was one of my least favorite cities in America to play, mostly just because the show wasn't that good. And it's back to what I was talking about, how, like, people kind of cycle out and move and things fluctuate.

Vegas right now is night and day from what it used to be. Dude, that is crazy. It's like, you got to play Vegas. Every band's got to play Vegas. Harmsway never played Vegas until like 2018. That's amazing. That was like our first time playing like a real show. We played a House of Blues thing at the gates.

Yes. That was when they, that's when we started before doors. Want to talk about Balders Gate three experience so far? Are you playing it? I have, I played, I think I put four hours into it. So not super deep. I got a four-man party going, you know.

I've heard that it's a lot more fun with people. Oh, I wouldn't want to play this with people. Neither would I. This is the kind of game. I'm having a great time on my own, but I'm playing on Steam Deck, which is not, like that was out of,

I had to. Right. So I think I'm going to stop and wait for it to come out on PlayStation so I can start over and finish. You can download Steam and get it on your Mac. It's Mac compatible. Oh, really?

Yeah. That's one of the reasons why I bought it because I was like, well, I can play this on tour if I'm bringing my Macbook. Wait, I can just play this on this? Yeah, because it's steamed. Done.

Done. Game is amazing. So, I've felt that way the entire time. It's so fucking good. It feels like Knights of the Old Republic, but like way more fleshed out. That's what it feels like to me.

Agree. Well, it's turn-based. It's very, it's very Dragon Age. very Diablo but with like the depth of the witcher yeah yeah that's a good way to call

every NPC has an actual thing to say and are all voice acted I found out even the animals are all voice acted it's crazy there is animal speech yeah is a spell so you can talk to any animal and it's been done yeah I've been talking of this rat in one of the areas I love it so fun

um so you yeah, I'm not, I, it's, there's a lot, there's a big learning curve. If you don't know what cantrips and like, how Dungeons and Dragons works, it's a bit to learn. Perception checks and shit. Yeah, all that shit is just kind of like, I just load my save file when I fail one. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I save constantly. I'm just loading and doing it again. I'm not going to not have the perfect game. Exactly. Dude, I'm with you. What for? Why? Yeah, why? I'm going to have. fun. Tofu tooth asked, was it a planned thing at Santa Feary

2022 to throw in the Catalina wine mixer drum solo before violent procreation? Absolutely. He does it all the time. I did it in practice every time. Touring in your 30s is a different thing. Do you think it's a young man's game or nah?

Asked by Benny Liquid. Who is Benny Liquid? That's a lot from a longmont. Oh, no shit. Yeah. Fuck. That's amazing. I think it's the your your perception just changes. Yes.

What you're willing to do changes, but then you're going to generally have the wherewithal, the budget, whatever to make it okay for your decaying body. I am, I am, I would say 31 year old Colin to 25 year old Colin is 100 times smarter. Yeah. Yeah. Like I've got, I've grown 100 times smarter since. my frontal cortex

finished developing, you know, whatever it's called. Brain grew smarter now. Way smart. So that's been nice. Just to be more aware of like, oh, I'm, I shouldn't, I didn't get to do this for a long time, so I should probably not take this time for granted. Oh, that's nice.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm wondering, I'm wondering how that's going to be. I've not had to wait for people. like shower and stuff a long time. Yeah, that sucks. So I'm a little, you know. But, you know, part of me was like,

oh, fuck yeah, I'm in Hartford. I still get to do an awesome thing with my best friends. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I mean that as I'm like, I'm in a terrible part of town and I'm having a great time. But I'm pumped.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I understood. But I don't, yeah. Dui. Legato. Fuck you, dooie. Is it, yeah, I answered this already, but Jan Boyga asked, is it easier to tour as a four-piece since you have more room for travel infinitely?

Infinitely. Infinitely. The final question by Juicy, how many McNuggets can you down in one sitting? How many do you think you could? I have gotten 40 and could have finished them, but didn't need to like go. Guilt stopped you? Yeah, well, I was just like, I'm, I'm. I'm at a comfortable level and I like cold nuggets, actually.

So whatever. If I was hungry and if I was pressed, 60. I think I could eat 60 nuggets. I think there's a difference between could and like in my, like I could eat McNuggets all day and not stop. Yeah, right, right. They're made for that. The problem is that you start to become aware and go,

I should not be doing this. Yes. Could. How many? Yeah. If you had to. If I had to. Yeah, if it was like in order for Chile to be to live well.

You think you could do 200 at once? 100%. That's a lot. 20 nuggets does nothing to me. I could do that 10 times. You know? Yeah. But I'm saying this is in an if my dog is at gunpoint scenario.

It's one chicken McNugget way. A chicken McNugget is 16.5. grams. Okay. 16.5 times 200 is 3,300 grams. What does that now? 3,300 grams into pounds and ounces is 7 pounds. You're not eating 7 pounds in a sitting.

That's easy. No. No, it's not. I would break one sweat. You're, this is a cool hand, Luke. Dude, this is gun to my dog's head. Yeah. I'm eating all of them.

I'm eating a thousand. Seven pounds would rupture your stomach. No, it wouldn't. Seven pounds? I wouldn't do anything to me. I have seven pounds of shit in me right now. Everybody knows.

Everybody's listening to this. This is shaking their head right now. 200 nuggets is easy. You're saying you have a gun to my dog's head saying eat 200 nuggets. I don't think you could eat 100. I don't think you could eat 3.5 pounds in one city. 100 is effortless. Dude.

Dude, the day that spicy McNuggets came out, me and me and Nate got 80 each. Yeah. Okay. And that was like, that was like, yeah, I need another 80. I'm telling you, I got 40 for lunch, 40 for dinner, and both times was like,

between those meals, I was like, I got to go back. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I should go back and get 40 just in case they're gone tomorrow. Yeah, but that's not one sitting. It could have been. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

I wanted it to be. Seven pounds. I could eat seven, seven and a quarter, actually. Yeah, but think about what the Nathan's hot dogs guys are doing. What's the record? Billion. Hot dog eating record by 2023. Joey Chestnut, what did you do?

60 or 76. Yeah. Okay. Do that math. Tell me that'll rush for his ass. What does? One Nathan's hot dog way. It is 56 grams.

So what did I say 76? So 56 times 76. Wow. That's a lot more than the nuggets. That's 9.3 pounds. Seven pounds of food? That's a big steak. No, that's not a big steak.

100%. A 64-ounce steak is not. I could do the big Texan by myself. You are out of your fucking mind. I could do it. You think you think I can't do it. I do not think you do that. That's a good idea for an episode.

I do not think you, yeah. I could have. Because you got to eat the potatoes and shit too. That's the hard part. But I think I could eat the steak, no problem. This has been hard lore. Stories for me. Next week, I'm going to.

I eat the big Texan. Yeah. Thank you so much for watching. This was fun. I'm so excited to do this after the Harm's Way tour. I'm going to be a different man. I'm going to be Captain Jack Sparrow. Everyone is so slow.

I'm just going to fucking hate it. I hope so. But I'm excited. Me too. We will see you next week. What not soon. Thank you guys so much. Get your harm's way tickets

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