HardLore - Zuma From KRUELTY Tries to Eat 200 Nuggets

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

Days before Kruelty's return to Sound & Fury Fest, vocalist and beloved HardLore regular Kohei Azuma (AKA Zuma) returns for his 4th appearance on the show to challenge our honor by (insanely) declaring that he thinks he can eat more nuggets than us.After 8 consecutive weeks on two different full US tours that Kruelty has finally freshly wrapped up, he just might be right... Featuring his wife and Kruelty bassist Seina as special guest co-host and scorekeeper, and Kruelty's manager Taylor Young (AKA his Dad) as moral support._____________________________________________________________Edited by Steven Grise (@iamoneonenineseven) • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf (@marzluf) HardLore: A Knotfest Series Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes: https://patreon.com/hardlorepodJoin the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef___________________________________________________________Cool links:HardLore Official Website/HardLore Records store: https://hardlorepod.comTry AG1 at DrinkAG1.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1.Get 15% off MADD VINTAGE with code HARDLORE15! https://maddvintage.com/___________________________________________________________FOLLOW KRUELTY:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/krueltyjphc/TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/krueltyjphc FOLLOW ZUMA:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/zuma94jp/TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/zuma94jp FOLLOW SEINA:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/se7_cks/ FOLLOW TAYLOR:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/taylorxyoung/TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/taylorxyoung FOLLOW HARDLORE:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepodSPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrpAPPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO:INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe #HARDLORE #HARDCORE #KRUELTY 00:00:00 - Start00:03:27 - Nugget 100:04:28 - Touring With Harms Way00:07:23 - Creeping Death Tour00:10:32 - Seina's Interests00:11:53 - Meeting Zuma00:15:29 - Up Next For Kruelty00:16:17 - Response To New Record00:19:41 - Day In the Life of Seina00:20:17 - Kruelty Response In Japan00:21:57 - Pet Peeves00:27:53 - Favorite Show Memory00:32:20 - Favorite Things About Touring the US00:33:27 - Favorite Japanese Death And Doom Metal Bands00:37:08 - Food Rankings00:41:28 - 7/1100:42:39 - Japan Doing Things Better00:44:06 - Angel Du$t Feature00:45:28 - Thoughts On the Tied Down Spin Kick00:48:27 - Fortnite00:50:08 - Expectations of First US Tour00:53:55 - Taylors Initial Reaction To Kruelty00:57:11 - Meeting Seina00:59:26 - Discovering Heavy Music01:01:48 - Taylor Being Angry With Colin01:06:33 - Rigged Jeapordy Buzzer01:08:09 - Pardon This Interruption01:10:47 - Bands They Currently Enjoy01:15:16 - Favorite Zuma-isms01:17:40 - Favorite Ice Cream at 7/1101:19:17 - Taylors Favorite Record with His Involvement01:26:57 - Zombie Apocalypse01:29:39 - Hardcore Perception In Japan01:35:19 - Places to Go In Japan01:38:21 - Farting on Charlie01:41:11 - Seina's Favorite Tour01:45:26 - Agenda After Getting Back Home  HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster EnergyEdited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas MarzlufJoin the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes.Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes.FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLEFOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAMFOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER For sponsorship opportunities, email us! [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Previously on hard lore. Tell me about touring with Zuma in 2025. He's convinced that he can at least beat you in Nuggets. There's no way, dude. I fully agree. Three weeks later. No, f***ing Nuggets. No, I'm not gonna puke.

Yeah, I didn't expect that much. Like, welcome. Okay. Because if we play, what's going on? What is going on with? What is going on? my body. Dude, I'm scared.

Something is happening in my body, boy. Hello, welcome. It's Hardlord time. My God. How you doing, Bo? I'm doing so great. Who we have right here? Hey, good.

How are you? We've got our guest host today, Saina from Cruelty. She's here to oversee a competition wildly put into the universe by her husband, Cruelty vocalists. Kohei Azuma, aka Azuma. Hey, what's up? And he is joined also insanely because he thought he needed some help by my brother, Taylor Young, who also happens to be Cruelties manager and his dad. My dad, yeah.

And father, yes. Daddy and son. Volunteered for this task is what you were. So he volunteered me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How did you phrase it?

So how did this happen, by the way? Why did you put into the universe that you think you could do this? Why am I doing this? Yeah. I just want to beat Colin's record, you know? It's pride. As a man from Japan. So honor, it's about honor.

It's honor. Yeah, it's honor. Okay. Do you think he's honorable? Does he have a lot of honor? Yes, yes. What about, does he have a lot of responsibility? Of responsibility, yes.

Okay. So you have a lot of honor and responsibility? That's true. To defeat. So let's see how much. Let's see if you're more honorable and responsible than me after you do this today. So Sana's going to keep count of how many nuggets. Both of them mean.

I'm just having lunch. Taylor's just here for lunch. Now, Colin had 88. I had around 50. And so Zuma's going for 89. Yeah. Sana's going to have like three or four. So she's helping.

Because you're, yeah. We can some nuggets. We could add her nuggets to your score. And I still don't think you'll get called. close to 88. Can we add her score to my? Yeah,

that's what I'm saying. Not his, right? Not his. But Sanas, yes. Yeah, you guys can compete as a couple. How about that? Okay. But mostly she's our guest

hosts here to monitor you. Just a backup plan. Exactly. If you get out of hand, we have her to be like Zoom out. Yeah, like if I ended up, like, uh, giving up at like 85 or some shit. Yeah.

If she got four, I'm the winner. Okay. All right. Whatever makes you happy. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I just want to have fun. All right, well, let's get started.

Go ahead. All right. Dig in, boys. He's got barbecue and mustard. Plain yellow French's mustard. Oh, he's going two at a time. You're doubling up. That's two.

That's two. Oh, my God. Zoom of ASMR. You get right up on the mic with that. Oh, I want to see you some crazy shit. Oh, that's so bad. So, Zuma, you've been on tour for like two months. Yeah.

How's that going? I mean, I'm ready to go home. Yeah. But this two months was amazing. Oh, good. Playing many shows in many states. It started with our tour together in full hell. Yeah.

And Click and Jarhead. And then where did you go after that? We went to Ohio, Cleveland. Oh, no, wait. Did you ever join? Which tour was it? Is Creeping Death? With creeping death, yeah.

That's right. So tell me. crushing them right now Talk to me about the Harm's Way tour How was that? That was awesome Any highlights? Trying to think

The audio is going to be insane Trying to think Well if anybody's tuning into this They know exactly Yeah, that's true It's okay, you get it What were good shows on that tour, Zuma? I mean

Boston was best for me Boston was fucking awesome So I mean Yes, I think so Is that do you like the city? You have Boston as well? Yes. Both sides are best.

All right. It's very pretty. There's a ramen spot called Yumeo Katare, which is funded by Japanese. Oh. It's like a big portion of ramen. Is it in Cambridge? It's in Cambridge. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's in the H-Mart? No. That one is really. The H-Mart is unreal. It's crazy. Yeah. H-Bart is sick, but yeah, it's a different place that they found. Wow.

You loved it. Yeah. It's pretty much like what we can do. It's a, like, specific style of ramen called Giro. Giro is the sum of name, you know? Yeah. He dreams of sushi as well, I've heard. Yeah.

You know that guy? Yeah. But the Giro is, like, a famous for big portion of ramen. Oh, okay. So it's like a fucking huge. Oh, shit. So perfect for America. I mean, like, you guys are bad at eating ramen quick, you know?

Why? Because, like, you guys, like, sipping soup. I eat fast. No. No. No. And they're a tiny bit of noodles. We enjoy the food.

You never see me eat it. Yeah. We eat it fast. You gotta be like ramen in five minutes. That's me. And then I'm finishing everybody else's noodles. You got to eat while it's hot. That's the point.

You guys are a fucking, what is that? Like breaking our culture, you know? Yeah. Raman is not a, like, restaurant, you know? Not fancy. I tried trying to make into like a boutique restaurant some shit. It's actually just fast food like you say. And you said fast and go kind of place.

And you told me a minute ago you're excited to go home. The first thing you're going to eat is ramen. Yeah. My body is made of ramen, sushi and the Japanese barbecue. Wow. What about Santa? What do you like the most? I know sushi and the cucumber.

Cucumber? Yeah. Japanese cucumber is awesome. It's the best, yeah. Best. dip in the miso sometimes. Okay. So good.

And you had amazing sushi two and one. The other day and in the bay? And then one more for Taylor. Talking and I know she's

sounding mine. No, she I'm sorry. No, no, this is Sanis first time on the show.

This is very exciting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no nervous here. Not nervous to be here.

Not nervous to be here, right? No. It's a stupid show. This one. So, creeping death tour. That kind of of that picked up immediately after our tour

and then saw you guys in Chicago at Reggie's Oh yeah Was that good? That's a cool show That's a good venue yeah That's good show Shane booked that one

Oh come on legend And then how long that tour was long right Wasn't that longer than the Full of Hell tour? Yeah I think it was four weeks I guess Because when did we finish that tour with you Boy, 10th. June 10th?

Yeah, that sounds about right. Ninth or 10th in Toronto. Now, it's the 11th. So, yeah, four weeks, I guess. But we had a couple days off, you know, because some drivers are crazy. Yeah.

Yeah. The Toronto show was really good. That last show. That one was really good, too. Canada of fucking rocks. So you have 12 so far. Yeah. Just so you know.

That's it? I feel like I've had 12. So you got to do that about eight more times. Mm-hmm. He's doubling. And then you're good. So he's just taking longer to choose. each one.

See, I don't know if it's a good strategy. We'll see. We don't really know what the good strategy is. We really haven't figured out yet. So he did one a minute. That didn't really work. After 40, it was like, this is the biggest mistake. One a minute?

One a minute. I thought it was smart. I went for it. Didn't really work. Yeah. You just got to be hung up. So how long did you take to shoot you guys? Hour and a half, I think.

Okay. Yeah. To get to 88. I'm just starving. We had, we had questions submitted by our Discord and Patreon. join both if you haven't already. We're just kind of winging this one. Yeah, we'll get there.

We'll get there. We got time. Because I want to see you get to 89. It's fucked up because I want a nugget. They smell great. They're mine. Okay. Well, Sane it, do you want?

You want a nugget? You can't. And you can add it to Zuma. And that's one for Zuma. Do you want mustard? Mustard. Mustard. Mustard big in Japan?

Did you know wasabi? In Japan. When you buy Nagy's at some places you can only get barbecue sauce and the mustard

that's it that's it no ketchup no Swedish sour no maybe ketchup yeah I like ketchup on nuggets that's good me too

yeah never even thought about ketchup you know really it's amazing is ketchup not big in Japan I can't remember maybe only for fries french fries I have

this is my most I'm weird with food it's well documented I will have ketchup with any like protein like any meat, eggs, it's fine. But not fries. Oh, I love it with fries.

But I just like, I will have ketchup on anything. Oh, I see what you're saying. You see what you're saying? Steak. I guess, yeah, I'll do the bad steak. So, God, I hope. My mom doesn't really watch this, I don't think. But she used to broil the hell out of steaks.

They'd be gray. Ketchup was the only way. That's all I could do. Yeah. Do people cook nuggets at home or no? Not really. No. I mean, you do.

There's dining nuggets. Fried chicken or, oh, yeah. If there's that. From scratch? But not from scratch. But fried chicken from scratch is like pretty common. Grandma's recipe type shit, you know? Oh, yeah.

What is what are you into? What do you like to do outside of cruelty? Good food and good coffee. You have your jewelry? Yes. All the jewelry and stuff that she makes. Mm-hmm. Oh, cool.

Yeah. And you love Labibou? Yeah, I love boo-boo. Love boo-boo. She loves like horror stuff, too. Oh, really? All the time. What's your favorite? Do you like Japanese horror?

Or do you like American horror stuff or all? Both. Both. But I like Crayon Shin-Chang, you know, in Japan. My favorite character. Okay. Okay. Which one's that? I mean, out of Crens-Synchon? Yeah. No, no, what, what is that? Did that get remade here?

What I mean? You don't know Crens-Shin-C-C-Cin? Are you serious? I think I'm serious. That's crazy. Well, well. It's like, you know Cres Cyn-C-C-C-C- Right? No. Wait, what?

Explain it, Zuma. No. Tell me. You know Shintang? Are you serious? How do you... It's like an anime, you know? Okay.

Oh, okay. It's like a SpongeBob for you, I guess. Oh, but I think it made it over... But scary? Oh, no, no, no. Forget about the horror thing. Funny, funny anime. She just said, other than horror stuff, she is into, you know, those anime and...

Oh, I got you. Okay, cool. That makes sense. That's nice. Taylor had one more two. One more two. When did you two meet each other? How long ago?

How long ago did you two? No honor. No honor, no responsibility. Mark and style, bro. You've been here too fucking long. Yeah, you need to go back home. Yeah. When did you two meet each other?

How long have you known each other? I don't know. Oh. Has it been 10 years? Ten years ago. Ten years. Ten years. Last week.

anniversary? Oh, your anniversary was recently? No, that is February. February. Love. You better remember that. You better not forget. February anniversary?

Yes. How many years married? Six. Six? Seven. Next to you. Seven. Congratulations.

Very nice. Thank you. How was the wedding? Beautiful? Dope? No, we didn't do. That's sick. Oh, really?

Eloped? You eloped? What's that? It's just where you just go to a court, house and signs and papers and then you're married Oh yeah yeah yeah hell yeah that's dope I'm not a wedding Japanese wedding is stupidest thing ever

What are they? Like a fucking like 50 grand and some shit Yeah yeah maybe here same Yeah very expensive But you guys can do it small you know yeah Yeah I do it small It's not really possible for us in Japan you know Yeah because of family stuff

No like a like If you try to book someplace And they do like wedding stuff like a like a like company always trying to cut in

to do something to bring their business yeah yeah I love weddings I think they're really fun I also like hate wedding I hate getting once I'm there

once I'm there exactly getting there oh good the whole build up if it's your actual close friend dope a shit on it I love it

If you're going to Joe Schmo's wedding, not a good time. I saw the Schmo's married recently and it sucked. Oh, yeah. We have a culture to bring that co-workers and shit, which is like, you know, like, who are you, you know? How's your business going? Your rental business. It's been good. It's been all right, yeah.

Okay, good. What do you rent stuff? Oh, cool. Stuff and things? And read things? Wow. I've been meeting. I've always been interesting.

Tables, ladders, and chairs. Literally tables, ladders, and chairs. You rent tables, ladders, and chairs? Yeah. But I mean, we do a bunch of stuff. Yeah. And then we do a fucking, what's that? Like, Kourier kind of thing.

Oh, Korea. Deliver in within Tokyo. Wow. Same day. Something. We almost had to do that today. That's true. Cruelty Amazon.com.

Wow. Way cooler than Jeff Bezos. That's true. Isn't the worst part about this having to answer questions while you're trying to slam nuggets? Yeah. I'm not stuck in here. That's good. You feel good?

Yeah. Okay. You want to know what you're at? No. I don't know. I have not found a thing, you know. Yeah, totally. Smart.

Do you come to last two? She's counting on the last two. She's about to, yeah. You're about to have 20. There he is. Oh, 21. Are you double dipping? 20.

No. There you go. All right. Your paces are not that different, but zero. Jimmy, you're doing great. I'm smoking them, though. This app is also unbelievable.

Yeah, why? We don't know what we're doing. We don't have honor and responsibility. What's next for cruelty after you get home? You have an agent to with Ram Rock. Oh, really? Oh, hell, yeah. Cool.

When is that? Like, later, I don't know. Actually, first half of August. Oh, so right away. Pretty much, yeah. You stay busy, man. I don't want to, but... Yeah.

Was your new record, last time you were on the show? No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. How's it been going? When was the last time I did? The fast-faced cheerless? Oh, yeah, that's right.

That was like a 2024, 23? I think it was early 2024. Okay, okay. I think. Although maybe not because we did the Sound and Fury thing. I think it was close after that, and that was 2023. So, yeah.

Almost two years ago. Time prize. How's the record, Ben? How's the response? I think it's been good. People loving it? Mm-hmm. Okay.

You got new stuff? No? Only two songs down, bro. That's a lot. That's a lot when they're five minutes long. Yeah, that's a start. That's true. But, yeah.

Simply, it's not easy for bands to write, like, third LP. Oh, you know? Third LP is tough. This one would be third, you know? That's the one where you kind of like... Okay, who are we? We got to do something different. You know, we got to figure this out.

Yeah. But he's new singer. Yeah, true. That's good. That's a good way to think of it. I might actually sing like you. Me? Yeah.

Like, I might sing on the new record. What do you think? I think that's crazy. We're going to see about that. Yeah. I can see the wave form. I'm just broke right there. It's a creeping half.

The manager should maybe step in for that one. We're going to have to auto tune that. What are some of your favorite bands? I'm gonna go. Oh, okay, okay, okay, that's okay. Okay, okay. We're gonna get the translations underneath for that,

some subtitles for that. Yeah, just asked me. Nice. That question is hard. Favorite band, just a few. Three, four, ten. Some bands you love. And again?

And again? And again? Hell yeah. Cool. I have this middle band. That's middle band. This band. Santa loves death metal.

Sanna, you do one of my favorite moves. You want to know one of your moves that you do on stage that I really like? You do this thing that Trish Stratis did. She does the point. What's that? Tristratis was a wrestler. Okay.

And Sana does a yeah. Yeah, that's cool. I like that. That's good. Cool. Stage move. Your cool move. It's good move.

I like that. Some other bands that you love? But I try pizza Yeah Yeah, we don't call it Circle Pit anymore Sound of the beauty Sound of purity We'll let you know how it went

Here it is These are starting to get nasty Yeah Yeah they cool off and then it's real bad I did I got messages after mine That we should be Door-dashing

Like every 10 minutes It's just not practical That's wow It's just not gonna happen We could put them in like one of them Pizza delivery bags The hot bags Yeah

You get hot bag it That was fucking nasty There's no room in there No honor This is why you want me to do I guess Why I don't know

You guys want me to be Seedy You Yeah You are Suggesting doing this You wanted this This is why you wanted you to

This is my business I like I'd like just talking to you Anytime anywhere True But you We have honor and you challenged.

So we're letting it happen. You literally challenged my honor. That's true. I want to know more about Saina. What's a day in the life of Sana like? Like your full day at home in Japan. Me? Yeah.

Tell us she you can answer in Japanese. I'm lazy. You're lazy. Me too. Wow. Here, here. Being lazy is awesome. Yeah, it's the best.

It's sure candy. I'm lazy. We're doing, we're walking hard on this already. You know? That's right. So when we are home, chill. Yeah. Yeah, true.

Eight weeks of touring deserves eight weeks of chill. Of just chilling. Yeah. Actually, more. But yeah. How is the response to your new record and cruelty in general in Japan? I think it's been good. Okay.

Yeah. Like the hometown crowds have been getting better? What's funny is people understanding differently depends on the country. Mm. Like, so this song has like big three mush parts, some of that. Like we name A, B, C. Yeah. The A one does very well here.

Everyone's going to go crazy. But it doesn't go good in Japan, you know. Oh, interesting. You know, when the C one does very well in Japan or about not doing good here. This is good information. This is actually very interesting. But like the D-beat parts. Yeah.

Do Japanese crowds go crazy for them? Yeah, like a fucking, you know, like. I mean, I'm more like kind of side to a side, but I could everywhere, you know? Yeah, yeah. This way. Side to front, to back to side. I think, uh, Zumi, you agreed with me once. I think that the coolest looking thing from stage.

Oh, like pushpit? Is a push pit. It's like a really violent, active pushpit. Yeah. Is the coolest looking thing. Because, uh, yeah. He got 40. Yeah.

Like violin push bits is harder than like weak windmill, you know? 100%. Yeah, that's true. 1,000%. Week windmill. I'm not going to join push bits at all, but as a musician. Yeah. It looks fucking awesome.

Yeah. I'm glad we agree on that. Looks like water. Yeah, it looks like boiling water. Should I throw it to some patron questions? Yeah, I think so. What is each of your biggest, you know what a pet peeve is? What's that?

Pet peeve is like a, like, no. Okay. all right we're getting we're getting i have to eat still so like a pen i'm eating we're eating no honor he's always no honor he's always farting yeah oh no no honor no honor so zuma so zuma what's fun is i don't like far like too often like this in japan but we're never here oh yeah because the food is it's because you eat he's eating denny's steaks and stuff that's gross dude salmon denny's the best one why we're Would you, the best?

Yeah. Stop with the bit. The bit's over. You got people out in America going and buying salmon from Denny's. That's crazy. It's sick. Do not do Denny's slander. It's awesome.

They're awesome. So a pet peeve, Zuma. Yeah. What's that? It's like something that annoys you, but it's relatively minor. So it's not like, if I'm an asshole or I don't say please or thank you, that's like, oh, that's a bad guy. It would be more like if I'm constantly like And if I don't like that noise

Like Beau's noises are one of my pet peeves, you would say Or like one of my biggest pet peeves is People behind me on an airplane Trying to get off before me Yes You know Pet peeve is a specific small thing that really bothers Like a small thing

Okay, okay But maybe we wouldn't universally Everyone go, oh yeah, I hate that It's like unique to you Something like that for you Taylor. Do you have an example of one? Not the moment Okay.

That's crazy. Come back to me. Okay. I have. Yeah, we all have a belly. Your life is pet peeves. I don't know what you're talking about. Wait.

All right. Probably my biggest pet peeve is any public space for someone's watching something on their phone full volume. Oh. Drives me. I was going to say people who, people who are like in public on speaker phone. Yeah. You're pointing it at me. That's insane.

You're pointing it at me. Just for it into the chair. Why? So it comes up into you, not at a vortex at me. I don't like it either. It's okay. I don't care. No honor.

Tell him he has no honor. I think so. No, I think so. That's a good wife. You think he has honor? No damn honor. So what's your pet peeves? Do you like that, Zuma?

Farting. So do you guys have like stuff like don't do like this? Yeah. Yeah. I like, what do you go, what do you call in English? Fidgeting. Fidgeting. Okay, okay.

So I hate that shit. Okay. James, I do it a lot. James will do it in the van. You're crazy. James will do it in the van so much that the van shakes. But we didn't like friends, I don't care, you know? Yeah.

But when I'm in, like, restaurants, some stuff, and then the guy next to us doing that, some shit, I'm not going to be happy, you know? Mm-hmm. I don't know. Just bother me for some reason. That's fair. That's a common one. I used to do it in school a lot on my desk and stuff.

Yeah. Oh, dude. People hated me. I yelled at a kid yesterday at Disneyland. For what? When I said kid, he was like 11, 12. He was a young. Yeah, young.

No honor. But just like a, you know. Pirates has two, right? It's got one real one and then like a little fake one. Yeah. The real one, him and his three girlfriends. friends all like screamed and it was funny whatever but it was really loud and then we went down the fake one and he just like ah for like five seconds straight into my and I just went hey you got

to stop and you're like and you apologize to me afterward wow but I told him I said I said hey that's totally okay have fun just be mindful of other people that's that's what I said that's nice and the mom the mom also made him apologize oh did she she was in the back and saw it. Oh, mom saw it all. Yeah, she was not happy. Can you explain pet peeves to Sanna and have her give one? People who are doing it like, like,

like, Oh, that's been boy-us-in-lawing, and... What was yours? Uh, somebody from behind me on an airplane trying to rush out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't like that. Oh, okay, that's, like that. All airplanes, everything about an airplane.

Oh, dude, when somebody gets to go to that, oh, yeah, that's... into the seat and they hold on to your self and you're like the worse. So what would yours be? Uh, can't be. Yeah, in general.

Yeah, in general. Yeah. So, people bring in umbrella in Japan. Oh yeah. Every time. Yeah. But when you're like, walking stairs, some people are like,

grabbing like this way. Like this way. Oh, I don't get this. Oh. I don't hate you sometime. Oh, yeah. That's a pet peeve. Yeah.

Okay. I would hate that. That is a good. Yeah, that's a good one. You've been thinking about that. Don't do that. How are you feeling? I think I'm talking too much.

How about this, Zuma? That's 45. You're halfway. You got 40 something more. I did that twice. Yeah. What did I stop that? And then I got creme brule and cheesecake.

I think I'm done. I think any more and I will feel bad. But you puked after. I did puke after. As did I. And it felt incredible. My tongue's starting to hurt from the barbecue sauce. The barbecue is crazy.

The sugar is crazy. I just didn't want to have a bad time. He, like, the sodium soaked up all his spit. Yeah, you got vas. Zuma. Do you have a favorite memory from a show you've played in Japan? Like a show in Japan where you really felt like, wow, I did it in my hometown. The one came up quick was like, so when we did the first US tour from Boston to down to FIA three years ago,

we once we got back to Japan, we played our solo show, just us, you know. The showcase. And then rumor, yeah, the rumors like so packed, you know. people like great job you know to us you know because uh at that time and no bands touring like international you know yeah because that that was like right after the pandemic you know yeah oh sure i can't wait to see the clip of him challenging us if you don't even beat me that's no honor no he'll meet you that's 47 right yeah yeah 47 yeah that was a good show no i was pretty impressed, you know?

Yeah, it should be. Because people were waiting for us back, get back, getting back to my country, you know? What's your favorite venue in Tokyo to play? Because I've only played Antonach, right? It's a good vendor.

It's the only one of played, yeah. Is that true? Don't you usually play two? Tokyo shows when you go? Both in the same place. We play Garrett. Garrett and Antio. We pray too.

Okay, we did that then. Garrett is 10 years ago. Garrett has that loft. That's where Garrett, I think is, wait. We saw the, we saw the, We saw the clown band there.

Yeah, the homie of the clown. Yeah. I don't remember what that was. I think they were maybe... I like the venue called Earthdom. Earthdom? Yeah. It's like Earth and D-O-M.

I got you. It's like a punk venue. Like a... Owned by one bastard. Oh, cool. This is a good question. Yeah. Is there a Japanese food that you've tried in America

where you've thought, you know what? that's actually pretty good that might be they might do that better oh Japanese brand but doing better here yeah ah the opposite I had yeah I'm sure yeah but come all of them all of them like Yoshinoa you know oh Japanese Yoshinoa is unbelievable Japanese three bucks yeah Yoshinoa here is like nobody bottom tier right right it's bad subway Yoshinoa yeah mm mm barely probably not I can't imagine in a Japanese thing. Yeah.

I don't like the ramen. You don't like the sushi. He had good sushi the other day and in the day. But that was not by Japanese, you know? She was Vietnamese. Oh, wow. Very cool. And then, you know, she's not American American, I guess.

That's why she did great job on sushi. There you go. Taylor, somebody wanted to know if you have a specific funny moment or cool moment from Anilmone. tour. Your fart is still in here just so you know. For sure it is. You're lying.

No, it's right here. It lingers. You pointed at me. You're lying. I have a few. Any that you can share. Like a funny one with you and John or something that you can share, you know?

You already told the drink story. That was unbelievable. That was. That was, we couldn't do it. Everything that's coming to mind, I literally can't. You can't say? What did Todd, Todd ribbed me about something about dancing.

You remember what it was? Nope. I mean neither. I've been perfect. Oh, dancing? Yeah. Yeah, I do. What was it?

I can't remember what it was. No, I think it was, it might have been George, Hirsch. Yeah. That, uh, actually. Yeah. So it was at your apartment. Todd picked up a guitar and started playing Twista Kane. Uh-huh.

And then George said, How many times do you think that's been played here? on that guitar. Because I have a huge dancing, like, painting. Couldn't remember how that went. That sounds about right. Not that much.

Good rib, harmless rib. Harmless rib. Okay. Zuma. What are your favorite things about touring the U.S. now? Meeting friends, I guess. Eating nuggets with your friends?

Just realize it's not normal that I be able to meet friends anywhere in the world. Yeah. Absolutely. Just so fun. Them eating good food.

Other than this. Other than nuggets, yeah. Those are good answers. What would you think, say, what would you say are your favorite things? Oh. No, you eat that nugget. We'll come back to you later. Don't be shy with that microphone, Zoom.

We need to talk right up into it. Don't. No. No. It's incubating in here. Just wait. There's no window. No, I'm not funny.

Just changing position. Yeah, just changing my position. Move is my... Because you're not going to be able to hear a thing. What are... Big Brian wants to know your favorite death and doom metal bands from Japan. That's a good question.

Put people on to some bands. Graham from Zabba? Yeah. You say what? What are your favorite death metal bands from Japan? He's asking me? Oh, okay. Do you're metal bands from Japan?

Favorite doom is corrupted. Classic. As he says, probably. Yeah. Same thing. He would go, Oh, corruptor, baby. It's awesome.

And here, is grief from here? Grief is from here. Yeah. Yeah. I like grief. And then, wait,

it's coming. What's coming? My fault. Don't. Come on, man. We're dying over here. I do like her. She's suffering.

It's like more like epic, like stuff. Like, uh, evoking. Oh, I love it. Yeah, yeah. That's the shit. Who else? What's yours? From here?

Yeah. I don't think I like any. Death or band? Is it a hater? Death plenty. Yeah. Uh, ripping corpse number one, death metal band. You love Paul Bearer.

I like Paul Bearer. I don't count it. That's just. slow rock. Yeah, but that's what... Yeah, but dude, it's like the next step of in warning. Right. You know?

Well, they're just one of the best bands, period. Period. Yeah. You've officially beaten me, Zuma. Is that true? Holy shit. And that was your alleged number. Mm-hmm.

Wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Who's your favorite Japanese? Death metal band. Transigester. Oh, yeah.

There's an old band. They are now, some of them now are in Anatolia. Oh, cool. Which is on a dark disc and records. I saw them in Copenhagen. Oh, in that thing? Oh, the Kiltem. Yeah.

It was good. They're good. What are some of your favorite Japanese death metal and doom metal bands? Coffins. Coffins. And Anatomy. Me too. Very cool.

I told me it's more duney. There's not many are like, you know, active now. You want to know mine? My favorite Japanese. Yeah, I do. Death, do you know a little bit. They're called cruelty. Oh.

Hell yeah. Zuma, where's your favorite area in the country in America? Like, where do you enjoy being? Kind of maybe even regardless of the shows, what do you enjoy? You're like, oh, this is nice. Honestly, Boisey was amazing. Boise is really nice. Well, you had a good guy

You had a great job In the other room Some guy A random guy from Idaho It was driving us So We went to Boise You saw the real thing

Not like Tor Boise Maybe yeah You saw local Boise Yeah like a Good River You know Did you shoot a gun?

Yeah I was just gonna ask that No I wanted to shoot a gun I wanted to so bad I mean last time I shot the gun was like in grammar When I was like a 17 or some shit Oh okay

So it's been 13 years already Wow. So do you have a guy out here? Can I shoot? You have to go to a range. Can I shoot in here? And you're the third person to ask me that.

Wow. That's true. Wow. So it's a fair question. Okay, can you rank these in order for me? Burger, pasta, pizza, fried chicken. Burger pasta, pizza, fried chicken. What's the best?

Or what's the worst first? Can I guess? Wait. Okay. From top to bottom? I think... No bottom to top. I think fried chicken.

That's number one. Number one? Yeah. Okay. For you? Mm-hmm. Burger. Okay.

Pizza. Yeah. pasta. That's what I think. I think pizza might be over burger. I think noodles, if it was noodles, noodles, noodles would win. Pasta. Yeah.

Like... I just remember in the tierless, he was so sick of burgers. Pasta in here? yeah because I not it not Asian yeah it implies

Italian I do like pasta yeah but like when I get pasta here it's not it's always not Adente you know

that's what I he might be American he's a young dude I can't believe he just drops El Dente I think out of those

I think I think about hot a noodle you know yeah yeah to the tooth is what Al Dente means

better but I think burgers is number one for me. Really? Yeah. Fried chickens the last.

Burger is... I like it. It's the one that makes me feel the least bad. I just... I could have a burger every damn day. I feel that way about pizza. I believe it. It's fair.

I would put pasta at the top. I eat it the least. Interesting. But it's because it's... Terrible for you. It's just the fattest thing you can eat. Yeah. This is a great question, Zuma.

Are you still a big Celtic Frost fan, even after he hated your shirt so much? Wait, what's the story here? They did a Kelsey Frost rip-off shirt and Tom, Tom flipped out. Really? You didn't like it? We came to an understanding. Okay.

Yeah. Hey, I said, hey, it's not a rip-off. It's a tribute. Yeah. Look at his arm. No one's saying, this is cruelty. What an astonishing way to show tribute. Yeah.

But he just, he ended up messaging me like, you can keep setting the stuff and you don't have to pay me. And I was like, yeah, of course. Yeah. I do have to pay. Come and get it. You want to grab a wrong. I just can ship you one. Yeah.

We had a similar problem that we've figured out with Bullthroar. Oh. Similar. A lot from him, yeah. Yeah. Similar thing. I think it's just different. I told him that story when that happened.

Different generations just don't have the same mindset that we have. Yeah, for sure. They didn't, Tom G. Ward never saw the kids like us, Coca-Cola. You don't know that it's all. all just, it's fun. Oh, good, clean, fun. Did you revisit Waffle House on this tour? No, we had a chance one time,

but it's kind of out of the way. I'm not a big fun either, so. I think it's the best of, you like Denny's steak, and that's like, that's an actual garbage, whereas, like, everything at Waffle House is good. Be nice to Denny's, though. What do you got, what is your thing with the Japanese Denny's was pretty good? I went.

It was right next to my hotel in Asakas. pretty good but I'm not going here they have ramen bro that's crazy you eat denny's in Japan often maybe once a month or maybe rest

once a month you go with him to Denny's once a month oh my God I have it once every three years and then I go I'm never going

I never eating Denny's ever again What about how often because listen Do not compare Japanese Danish Denny's an American one You were doing that You're saying it's good. You think it's better here?

Just different, like, wait. Yeah, that makes sense. You're not going to get stake in Japanese. Right. You might, weirdo. Don't do it. They don't even have a lot of. Yeah.

Don't. Stop. Oh. This is the fart episode? Fart lore. Oh. Oh. Oh, no.

Steven's dying. Sorry. Sorry, me. sorry, both. They're actually doing fine. They don't have to smell it. When I was in Japan, every single day, I started my day at 7-Eleven. How often do you eat a meal at 7-Eleven?

A meal. Like a nice little... Like a better box or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So good. Like, yeah, like, maybe at least once a week. Okay, yeah. If we can count like those only games, you know?

Yeah. Maybe more Yeah, those are incredible If I had that I'd be at 7-11 every day Dude, if I had access To the Japanese Chicken Katsu sandwich

From 7-Eleven I would never wonder What I'm gonna eat Think about this one The wiener With the ketchup Mustard Comb of the wiener

But you know They have the ketchup mustard They get splits And they get evenly spread it That's genius You know the pizza bun We are genius Yeah

You are a genius Yeah You know the pizza bun at 7-11? The hot bun near the road. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God. You get that?

You get that? Yeah. The pizza bun? We call Nikuman. Nikuman. Yeah. So, Nikuman. Here.

Excuse me. Actually, Pizza man for that one. Okay. Man is like a bum, you know? Okay. Here the perception is that Japan does everything better. Yeah. Like, whether it's food or like public transportation or the phone cleaner,

UV. thing that you see or like the umbrella shaker thing to get all the whatever just like little public conveniences that make things better is there anything that you wish Japan did like America or anywhere else

I think like roads in general they're everywhere super tiny in Japan you know that's my least favorite thing you know just tight yeah like why you know Tokyo might be too late to fix the issue

Yeah, pretty old. Yeah, even in smaller, like, newer cities, like, they still do, like, just, you know, one way. One way, yeah. Well, the actual car, one, one, you know. Aren't the actual cars in Japan a little smaller? Like, they're more narrow? Like, a little bit, like, maybe one foot. You know, Toyota, Yaris.

Yeah. That's something like that. Okay. It's the most popular thing in Japan, you know? Okay. So. And it's made the same? Well, I guess we don't know.

Yaris is the same, yeah. Okay. But we don't have Tacoma, you know? Yeah. We have a pickup, but it's smaller. Yeah, the Tanderer is like way out of off, you know? I want the truck. The little one is awesome.

I love it. Well, you've seen the thing that the truck bed is the same size? Yeah, right. So it's like you can haul the same amount of shit. It's just a smaller vehicle. Give me it. Taylor, somebody said, I absolutely loved your future in the new Angel Dust single. How did that first come about and what was it like working with them?

It was cool. Me and Justice playing Fortnite. He was like, yo, I got to get you scream on the song. And I was like, sick. And then I didn't know it was going to be the thing it became, which was, is cool. A video? I didn't know. Like, at the time, I didn't know.

And then he was like, well, we're filming three videos back to back. Oh, three? They shut up. Well, I mean, yeah. There's new shit. Yeah. But yeah, it was fun. Not helping?

Hungry? Why if I puke? You're going to be mad at me? The challenge is over if you puke. Oh, yeah. Is it going to be funnier? If you puke? Yeah.

Funnier than a fart, for sure. Puking is funny here or no? It's gross, but I think in this context, it's like nothing better than that. But if you're going to do it, do it in the bowl. It's disgusting and I can't watch it, but it is funny. I don't want to clean it up. How do you feel about puking? Bummit.

Hurl. Spue. Chum. No light. No light. I think Zuma, how many more do you think you got? 20 You think you have 20 more

I think so I have a headache already Taylor What did you think about Colin kicking that guy I thought it was dope I didn't see it When it happened

Hey Neither did the guy I had tunnel vision To survive You were so scared And that's why I was doing it Yeah I was really just trying to help my brother

It helped But then you were also Like a beacon And I just saw you but then in that moment I didn't and then it was yeah there you go

feel that what if he has no it's not good the sodium yeah yeah yeah I thought it was dope

how was preparing for that disgrace set and did you feel like you still were going to vomit while seeing yeah did you do the thing

I did the thing more than ever it was crazy oh wow really I did the thing more than ever because I arrived there early got sick

day two so like flu like something I had like a drip. And it was just choking me. First song I had to fully turn around. I'm not looking forward to this video because it's going to sound like obituary's playing. You could mix it. The first song I'm like skipped lines and I had to turn around. It was awesome. I was going really hard. But then I got I got a grip of it but usually it's like first song it happens,

second song maybe once and then I'm clear and then maybe once towards the end. This one was like every song. One a song. Yeah. You, there's, there were some videos shared recently of new disgrace stuff being recorded. Yes. How do you feel about that? Shit's dope. Good. It's awesome. It's the best stuff. Yeah?

By far. Really? Easily. There's no vocals left and he's got shit stuck in his head. Yeah, but that's because he's, I am the biggest fan. Yeah, but you listen to it twice. Twice. I'm gonna Can't wait to clip this in a year

Can't wait to clip this in a year Oh, Dana, do you play video games? Yes, sometimes Okay Do you know Gameboy Elevance? Of course. Yes. Game Boy Advance.

So no, you're not on the Switch, you're on the Game Boy Advance? Old School, boy. Oh, school. Pokemon? No, Mario. Mario? Mario. Sure.

Of course. I love Mario. It's my brother Mario right now. Brother Mario. Luigi Mario. Not true. Try again. Kind of true.

It's. Toad. No, it's Mario. You're Luigi. You're Luigi. You are a warrior. You're a lot of ass. You're definitely my toad.

A toad for sure. Yeah, but he's a fucking hero. He's a goat. He's straight out. I love toad. That's one of the best games. Did you know they're all toad? Yoshi.

They're all toad. Every color. It's the. is toad. It's a species. So it'll be like us calling each other. Except for toadette. Exactly. Except for toadette. She's like Smurfette.

Exactly. But there's only one. Only one. Well, they're fungus, so they just grow. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Zoom, do you play Fortnite? No. Will you? With me. When will you play Fortnite?

When will you play Fortnite? Come on. Is it fun? Yeah, it's pretty fun. I hate it on it for so long. Dude, you can be Peter Griffin. I play every day. You can be Godzilla doing, dunking on Peter Griffin. Yeah.

It's awesome. You don't know. He knows what guy there is. You know Peter Griffin. You know Peter Griffin. Family guy. Ooh. He doesn't have it. They don't have it.

Wow. Wow. You can be Goku. Yeah. Okay. Doing the gritty. You know the gritty. You obviously know the gritty.

Yeah. Yeah. After you shoot Hans Solo. Yeah. Oh, interesting. You don't like that? You can play with Taylor. Yeah.

That's Peter Griffin. Peter Griffin. You pray often? Every day. Every day? Yeah, you could play with us. He does his job. He does it after his job.

You play Fortnite? There's your daddy job. I have a break. You got to play. I don't afraid. You can play with us. No? No.

Oh my God. Taylor loves it. Kylo plays every day. Kyle plays Taylor plays. What's Gtia 6 coming out? We're going to do together. Then you retire. Oh, I'll play that when it.

You said after that cruelty's done. You said after that cruelty's done. Yeah, I think so. That's kind of the. coolest thing. Well, it keeps getting pushed back, so you've got to write another album. Once the new Grand Theft Auto was out, Cruelty's on an indefinite. I mean, I'm not going to, you know, holding over, but maybe.

You take a break. I'm not going to tour. You can do GTA6, GTA6 and write an album at the same time. Because think about pause, riff idea, shak it, cich-a-d-l-l-up. That's a good idea, yeah. Back to the heist. Yeah. All right, here's a good question.

When cruelty first planned to tour the U.S., what did you expect? And did it meet your expectations? So first couple shows in the Northeast was, well, like, exactly what I kind of expected. Oh. But I actually, so first show was January 1st, you know, literally the New Year. New Year. Japan is big about New Year, if you know. It's like a Christmas for you.

Everyone's... But it's not the same day. It's a different day, right? It's the same, same. It's the same day? January 1st, yeah. Oh, okay. China does different day, but yeah, Japan does January 1st.

And then everybody stuck at home. On January 1st in Japan. So I didn't expect that time. Mezaded. Good? Yeah, I didn't accept that. Fuck! No.

Fucking Noggies. No, I'm not going to puke. Yeah, I didn't expect that much. Like, welcome. Okay. Because if we play, it's going on. What is going on with my body? Dude, I'm scared.

Something's happening in my body, boy. Shit out, bro. What's going on? Okay. Holy shit. Get away. Get away from the whispers He's actually crying

Oh my god My voice was Fucking crazy I was texting So Yeah So if you're free page Bam

January 1 There would be no one You know Oh okay good So that's what I was saying So I was like Like an overwhelming You know

Okay But Did we have 10 show some shit down to FIA FIA And then the FIA Our set was fucking amazing

Yeah I almost cry You know Really? It's just amazing you know Trip The longest trip Across the ocean

The world yeah Yeah yeah And then we We're driving ourselves The SUV SIV SEPI was sitting in the fucking In the back

You know Wow It was kind of tough. And is this, was Taylor already your manager? Kind of. Soon after that. Okay. I think so, yeah.

He made sure you never did that again. Sort of. I think so. They've done a few tours on the van, but that's, he's a shopper. He likes to save money. I've seen him booking hotels. It takes him hours. Yeah.

Taylor, you like being a manager? No. Yeah, it seems like one of the worst. But I like to help. You do. Yeah. I like to help all the bands I work with it

He's not like a manager, manager He's not like Oh, I'm gonna take every single 15% income Fuck you I've probably been paid twice ever True Well Because I didn't pay

This is on the last store No this is something being taken from me That is true What Taylor What was your initial reaction to cruelty And when did you discover them? I think it was when you hit No you know what

it was actually Xavier coming home from touring with them in Japan Oh, I just had a, yeah, same show with Balmacara on there Yeah, he was like, dude, you gotta check out this band He's a string tour, I guess And then he hit me up maybe six months after that

To mix some stuff Yeah And then I've been hooked That's it It's everything I like Yeah, so did you record them immediately And then manage them? No, so I mixed

Yes the first LP it mixed a bunch of stuff and then they came here started managing after that record sometime and then after the FIA we tracked the second

LP together yeah oh I guess then I did manage before FAA huh I don't know I don't know either way okay fuck do you know what fuck Mary Kill is that game

You got a fuck one. This is ridiculous. Can you rank these Marshall, Mesa, Bugi, and Peevy? So the idea is... Like, which one do you hate? Which one do you like? Which one do you love? Yeah.

Spend the rest of your life with half for one night, kill. Yeah. I used to... I have been a Mesa guy for a long time. Yeah, he's got a big Mesa stack at home. Yeah. I have a Mark 5 and then rectifier, like, old one. Two channel, all the one.

That's the good one. All the rectifier. And then I'm like 5 But I started liking martial After Yeah Yeah

That thing right there Because I mean All the motions I can get in Japan Like J-CM 900 Or 2000

No Didn't you? No that was in There was one in Germany or something No it was in Poland And they thought it was a bootleg It was that one Oh shit

And that's real? Got it fixed up. Yeah. Nice. And then 900 is not good, you know? 900 is thinner. Yeah. It's thinner, but it has more gain.

Yep. I think it's good for like higher tuning bands. Yep. Yeah, it's brighter. Yeah. Definitely. But when I use 900, because 900 is almost always like backline that venue in Japan, you know?

Yeah. So I had a many bunch of times to try. But I always feel like kind of thing. Okay. I prefer like, like, it's something like, like a wall you know the mesa is kind of that way it does that yeah so i was i have been a mesa guy but uh now i like some specific match marshals too like 800 pv at the bottom pv is kind of like two i don't know it's not it's kind of it's kind of it's dark and woofie yeah

it's dark yeah and then uh count get like unique tone yeah everybody uses one yeah like even like if it some EQ work. It sounds kind of same. Yeah, totally. So I'm just, I don't hate people like, yeah. I'm not trying to use whatever in love. Okay. I got you.

How did you in Santa meet? That's 61? That was like a 10 years ago. Okay. Some shows. Yeah. You met at shows? Yeah.

Cool. She, were you good at you mosh? Spin kick? No. No. You just love the music. Yes. Oh yeah.

You got to eat about a 24 more. Oh, I'm sorry, 27 more. You do that? Not so easy, I'm trying. Did you, do you think when you met him,

was he chasing after you affectionately, immediately? Was he like, Santa, please? Was it love at first sight? I think he just being a while.

Yeah. First since the first, like, uh, meet. It took some time. Yeah, to actually talk, you know. How did it happen? Who, who, who initiated it? We never have couples on, you know. We just saw a, curious about love.

Uh, common friends, you know, at that show. That was how we met. And then, like, uh, maybe six months later or sometime. We met again, different show. and you asked her out on a date yeah yeah yeah do you remember your first date yes I remember

what did you do actually actually first time he's scared a little bit yeah yeah yeah look at him

farting I've heard him fart I'm just joking and then after that so silly yes yeah very silly nice guy

nice guy Okay Honorable But the first day Did you go out to dinner? So she She used to live far from me In Kyushu

Like Fukuoka It's got 1,000 kilometers away Oh wow 500 miles Oh wow Yeah Santa how did you discover

heavy music How did you discover How did you discover heavy music In general First time First time hearing heavy. Maybe 30, 38, H, 30 old year. When you were 30?

30 old year. Okay. So, not hardcore. Yeah, yeah. But metal? No metal. Punk. No, Japanese.

You know, one o'clock? One o'clock. Oh, that's just general rock stuff. Oh, rock. Rock. Yeah. There's a band. One rock rock.

One okay rock. Okay. It was a band name, yeah. It's like a stadium band. Okay, okay. So you went from that and you found heavy music? Yes. She said 13 years old.

Yeah, okay, 13 years old. Very young, she got into rock. I think so. She's been a rocker. Like you, everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see. How did you do it?

How did you do it, 89? Idiot. It's crazy. It is crazy. Taylor, somebody asked if you're on good terms with Glenn Benton. He don't know who the hell I am. Glenn doesn't? No.

There was a weird, did I tell the story I'm here? I don't. Like, he just, like, trashed a green room and blamed it on us one time. Who? Crematorium. On crevatorium. Yeah. And, uh...

But he was just rib. He was ribbing, but the venue didn't think so. Right. And, uh, there's a video. of it online. Yeah. Yeah, but he was just like

through all the shit at us while we're playing. Like he was playing around. Yeah. Grimbing, but then right, but then somehow none of the venue

people saw that and then it just blamed it on us when the show was over or he tried to blame him. Yeah. Good. Wasn't it that big of a good.

It was like bread. Glenn. Yeah. Chill. Cool. Yeah, totally. Taylor, what's the angriest you've ever been at me? I'd yell at them once a week.

But I can tell you one that I still feel bad about. It's probably the same one. Was it at the KCDia factory on the first tour we ever did? Oh, is it the van with the creatures? Yes, that's what I was going. That was a bad one. I'll tell that story. I don't remember the context.

This is, I've, Gen 1 iPhone. Yeah. We both had it. With the silver and the black. And I think it was the first version that had a map on it. 3GG. And we were trying to find something.

We're on torque. So this is like, oh, like what do we? Yeah. And I'm trying to explain to him. He's getting frustrated with the phone. I'm trying to explain to something. Or to him. And then I show him my phone to say, look, you just do it like this.

And he smacks it out of my hand. Oh, man. That was a mistake. Without even thinking about it, just went, D-D-K. But I have no memory of it. But he, he got mad,

even more mad, jumped over the seat. And it's like, Kyle. Yeah, Kyle and. Backwards? Backwards?

That's what you could be facing? It was not good. I went to, like, I went to like, like, windmill him. And he just went like,

no, he literally dove, dove into a headlock. Yeah. Is there anything? And I was like, you got to stop. You got to stop. And the van's full.

And I barely know them. Everybody's watching. I barely know Kyle or like any or anybody. And then we pull over and we go to Taco Bell and I'm bummed about it. He's bummed about it. And he's like, he goes, brother shouldn't eat each other, man. And then I felt, I felt bad and took him to Taco Bell and the bottom Taco Bell. There we go.

Yeah, you got me a two-d-bri-meal deal from Taco Bowl. No, you ate. You ate good. rightfully so I didn't remember the context but I do remember that but I there was another time where at the KCDia factory I don't see I don't recall I think it was in Centralia Washington is it was KCadia if you're watching if you're in when we played in the Ksadia we played the Ksidiya

we played the Ksidiya factory you there was a bunch of cash and you were giving me a bunch of grief about this merch money you remember this no I don't know why I did it But you were pissing me off For some reason I think you were being mean Is the same tour?

No this was different This was a Soul Search Minus Tour Okay okay Um And there was all this cash And I just threw it It was like

Because he was like I don't know why But he was asking me for it And we were frustrated with each other About something else And I just like Wow And he was so mad at me

52 pickup It was 50 to pick up with like 100 of dollar of merch money. Yeah, it was probably one. It was probably legit like $806. Yeah. But that was the merch night. Yeah.

Yeah. But I wasn't not been that max. I don't remember that at all. Yeah, that was, okay, that's because that one I was immediately like, shouldn't have done that. How you doing, Zuma? I'm still eating. You know that you remember when you said,

I'm still about eating. You said once in a time that the Midwest has no honor. Because they have no honor. Do you What are you referring to when you say the Midwest? Do you still feel that way? Thank you. Like,

yeah, I think so. Like middle of nowhere Midwest? Yeah, yeah, yeah, some... Not Chicago. But the people that are... The people that are crazy, like Ohio, small town.

But when you get to the show, the people that go to your shows, they have honor. I mean, they do. Yeah. But they love what I said, you know? Yeah. So they often come up to me like,

yo, we have no honor. How do you think? I was like, yeah, you don't. So they're living the bit. Yeah. That's good. So you think Midwest has honor? Midwest.

Chicago or that. On the middle. Kentucky. Oh. Good? Yeah. Louisville is beautiful. Yeah.

That is certifiable Midwest. Yeah. Big time. All right. Let's get some other questions going. here. Who did it all of those? That was Patreon.

That was all Patreon. Patreon? Oh, like a website. Yeah. Shout out to our. Fun site. Some shit. Yeah.

Patreon subscribers. Just for us. You can ask them stuff too. You can have first priority if you if you subscribe to it. I saw these questions because I'm a subscriber. Zooma, do you think that your Jeopardy buzzer was rigged?

That was tricked. You're like, you cheated. I did. I don't know. Do you know what it was? I actually figured this out. So Brain Dead, very grateful for obviously having us and being a good venue and being so cool.

They have a 5G modem with an extender in the hallway. How many connections are on that at once? Because we had my iPad and there are three controllers, as was my phone, your phone, everyone's phones on this fucking Wi-Fi. That was the delay. Because I tested it again when I got back to the hotel, which also isn't great and it was instant. Just got to do like a hotel buzz, like a... No, I got a plane. We got a...

True, just like raising hands kind of thing. Careful with that one. That was... Yeah, you can't do that. Yeah. That's hands, bro. True, true. Hey.

They're fine, you know? Did you have fun at Jeopardy? Did you have fun at Jeopardy? Yeah, it was fun. It was fun, right? Yeah. You're the perfect contestant, you know? And now they're so ready to see more of you right now.

They're going to see all of you when you puke into that bowl a little later. Yeah. What's, yeah, 63. The bites are getting so small. It's hilarious. Your body, have you noticed that your body stops producing saliva? Yeah, there's no spit. 64.

604. 25 more, dude. And that's including the three or four of the same eight. I feel bad, and I had 33. 33? Yes. I feel bad. Yeah, it's bad.

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That not a lot of people know about it. I got put onto the Fontaine's D.C. Yeah, it's good. That's like the biggest band. I know. Oh, that not people don't know about it. I thought it meant that people might not suspect. Everyone knows.

I misunderstood. They don't know that I like this. They don't know the biggest band on the planet. Again, I love the Firestarter record that's about to come out. Finally. They had a really good set last night. They did. They're the best.

I'm going to look at my phone. You recently added. Oh, I got, yeah. I love to see bands like start today doing really long tours in America. It's a good feeling. What do I like? I like the dynamite record a lot. So I'll start today at the Turnstall show,

and they killed it in Alec Mosh really hard. Yeah, see, that's what's all about. Brand new bands that not a lot of people know about. Brand new? Is it brand? No, it just says new bands. That not a lot of people know about it. That's the part I want to.

I got one that Dave Woody turned me on to, which is they're called Aronzi Pizzou. That sounds awesome. It's like weird. It's weird. It's weird. black metal from Finland.

Pretty sick. Oh, Cold Inside from Finland. One of my favorite European hardcore bands of all time. Nobody knows Cold Inside. And there's like, it's like blues scale. He occasionally sings and he has an incredible voice. But overall, it's just like really interesting

New York hardcore type of shit. Amazing band. I got into this ambient artist that I had to look up because the name is 703, 8663, 4357. 867. And the record is called Neo7. It's just really nice, pleasant kind of soundscapey stuff. Very cool.

I listen to it a lot. Not unknown at all, but the suede self-titled has been... You're obsessed, huh? Consuming. He needs a shirt to me. I need a suede shirt. If you got a shirt from self-title, we're coming up. If you got the animal nitrate torso, I need it. Probably not going to hit the Mad Vintage shelf.

No, it won't. He's aware. I already text Lou Geh. Yeah, he knows. You get this. It's mine. Nice. New bands that nobody knows about that.

You really like. I'm trying to think, but I'm not sure. Do you listen to stuff other than heavy music, Zuma? Not really. I only like Japanese pop stuff. Oh, you do? I do.

But old one, you know? Sure. Class. Not like new stuff, you know? So I'm mostly I'm not good at keeping that with newer music. Maybe happy music I'm listening What's like an old school Japanese pop artist

That you like? Like Hikaru Tata Do you know her? I feel like I've absolutely heard that It's automatically So many I know Stay with me

That was a That's a fucking Oh yeah Dude that sounds awesome You mean Mats to you? Something like that Yeah Thank you.

Everybody in the peanut gallery just went on that one. Everybody went on. Started Mosham. Do you have any favorite new bands? No. Maybe a new Japanese band that you want to tell people about. Oh, yeah. There's a band from Osaka called T-I-V-E.

Okay. Do you see that how do you spell? How would you spell? What would you pronounce? Ty. Ty. T-I-R-T-R-T-V. Yeah.

I thought Tyve, but like that. Thief or whatever. I guess if it's like motive, maybe. Okay. They are like kind of like new or town style stuff. Oh, okay. Cool. But they have, you know, Japanese lyrics and then some cool scale, you know.

So I'm not, I'm more, normally I'm like heavy music. Yeah. But I do like them. Okay. They open for town style when they pray Japan. Oh, cool. That's awesome. So I think they, one.

they get a good you know opportunity to play here or like a whenever else they will be popping hell yeah

yeah yeah somebody asked our favorite zuma isms you know what an ism ism is yeah okay so my favorite

summa isms would a B hell yeah hell yeah and then I want to see some crazy shit you're saying them all you're ruining

you're taking all the is okay one of that ones um you have a he has a delivery So it's not so much a phrase as it is like the other night in Japan. You said, this fucking sucks, man.

Yeah. The way you say that cracks me up. Yeah, I love it. And you're funny. You're funny. Isn't it why you say it? Yeah, but it's just the way you say it. That is funny.

Yeah, you didn't say anything. It's your delivery. And your English is kind of British. So you'll be like, this is shit. Yeah. I mean, because everyone in Japan learned British English. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But when I started talking, I started like learning conversation.

That was always like with American people. So my English is like kind of mixed up, you know. Do you have any favorite things that Zuma does? I'm in the other, in the world, I'm going to, like to keep in. Maybe falling. Least favorite. Oh, I'm going to, I'm sure. my ass often.

Oh, you do? You moon. Yeah. We call that moving. I love showing my ass to her, you know? Yeah. Yeah. She loves it.

You love his ass? Yeah. That's what it's all about. That's what it's all about. Husband's job, bro. Me too. You know? Yeah.

It's your job to make her life. Wives love seeing husband's ass, you know? I hope so. You hope so. Sure would. That's true. Huh? You show you ass to?

I don't show my ass. Let's show my ass. Let's, Let's try it tonight. Let's try it tonight. Let's see how she thinks. Do you think? What are the best family mart snacks?

What do you mean? Best family mart? Yeah, like when you're in a family mart? What are you looking for? What do you get? Oh, in family market? Yeah, yeah. It's an inshore of family mart chicken.

It's like a little, like a thigh fried chicken without bone. Without the bone? Without the bone? Without the bone? So easy to eat, you know? It's like a little snack. Chicken strip. It's a thigh, so it's juicy, you know.

Very nice. Sounds good. Sena, if you go to 7-Eleven or, what's the other one? Lawson? The brew one, yeah. Yeah, what ice cream do you like? Favorite ice cream from 7-Eleven? What's that one?

You don't know, the mochi ice? Oh, like a red and the white package. The little stick? Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. I'm getting that today. I love this. I could eat about, how many of those do you think he was?

Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. I could eat probably 100. No problem. Don't make... Yeah. You got to try next time, yeah. That's so many calories.

That's more calories. That's more calories. That's more calories. Because it's no protein. Right. It's all fat. I could eat eight of those. One sleeve.

You know, the waffle sandwich? The waffle ice cream sandwich. In here? On Japan, the one that's like this big with the walk. Monaca, yeah. Oh, my God. With the chocolate inside? There's a neapolitan.

I saw their American thing until I started coming over here. No, no. I never seen. Oh, we have his Snickers. Yeah. Well, the classic ice cream sandwich, the little shitty. Oh, that's a goaded. But it's like the best ever.

Fat boy? What is it? The Fat boy is unbelievable. Classic. You like Red Bean? I made Fat Boy minis. Red Bean? Do you like Red Bean?

Oh, lead beans. Sweet lead bean? Yeah. Yes. So good. One more. He's at 66. Oh, my God.

Pathetic How loud is the fart in there? What do you say? He's allowed? Do you have Taylor, do you have a favorite This is a crazy question Favorite record you've ever produced

Worked on and why? Can't be one of your own? Most important. Can't be one of your own? Most important. Like some, yeah, the one that you look back and go like that, that changed things. Can't be one of your own.

I'll do that. And you've said this about rotting out Street prowl. that's that's that was a pivotal one i'm going to do the one after that which is going to be surprising the second downpresser record the long goodbye is the long goodbye is that a black on who i that's not the first one that's the first one that's the first one with the head it's no it's like a guy walking away it's a shant tagger cover oh yeah that there was like it wasn't because of anything other than like while i was doing the record i like it was one of the times where i felt

like I knew what I was doing for the first time. Interesting. 10 years into doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was like, oh, like, I'm, I'm confident and I really, like, I listen to a record and I just love it. Yeah, I agree. Whoa. I love the way it sounds.

And now it's like special because of KL being on and stuff. So, yeah, like, I remember in the middle of that record being like, this thing is incredible. Wow. And then COVID kind of. And then COVID, it came out right when COVID hit it and just kind of. Beautiful. Sat back a little bit. Love that.

Yeah, isn't that the best? That's good. Can I ask something to you guys? Please, please, please. What's your Colin Ball? What's your favorite record mixed by him?

Maybe, yeah, mixed unrecorded or just mixed? Mixed. Yes, what is it? Did you do the Skin Father, right? Yeah. That's my favorite. Which one?

Oh, the one. Skin Father, LP. None will mourn. Yeah. That one's called. Mixed by him. Or like a complete Taylor Young coach.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. At least he has to be mixed by him. Like, my favorite are the one that I think is his best work. Do you know? Your favorite. My favorite is in love, there isn't a law. Okay.

Like, that and, and the Preacher Man single. What do you think about the remix? I love the remix. I love the remix. I think it sounds. Maybe you haven't popped it on as much. I haven't popped it on as much or since, you know, you first did it. I tried to keep it pretty close.

Yeah, I would say it's pretty close. nothing stands out, but I just remember to me that are like, oh, I fixed that. Gotcha. That makes sense. Yeah. When I heard the preacher man, I've said this a billion times, but when I, when the first single happened, I saw you guys play, this is hardcore, early in the day, 2012. And I was like, I'm going to check that out. And because I had heard sleep therapy, I had heard the other stuff, it didn't click.

The way it was presented, clicked. And that was a pivotal thing for like our friendships. as well because I was like, oh, I get these guys now. I do remember being on tour in Europe the first time and playing sleep therapy and everybody in Hinesweig going on. We didn't. It really just didn't connect.

It just didn't. It's happening to this day. We got a lot better right after that. We did. Objectively. This is a tough one. It's a tough one. It's not easy to understand.

I've heard them all. No, I agree. I heard them all at the worst and best thing. and best they've ever sounded. What's the like a remix of this harmony? Like you put out after during pandemic. Oh, the demo version. The zero some shit.

Yeah. That's good mix to me. I agree. Like a heavier, you know? Yeah. And that's what was really, the original one is like clear, but. Yeah.

That's why we, we felt that way too. And that's why we put it out after, even though the vocals are new. We've talked about that. Yeah. My favorite record he's ever. producer makes it's hard for it's tough because like to say nice things because i in love there's a law is probably my answer as well like i i i felt like that was the first time i listened to something that i sang on was like okay this is good yeah you know um you can hear absolutely everything

like it's very the clarity is insane while still being hard i love the remix i love the remix i love the I need a revisit. I love the remix. I want to know your thoughts later. Yeah, I need to revisit. I for sure listen to it when you put it out. Yeah. You know.

But something that I'm not in is a good, is it good. I mean, songs of sufferings. That's your favorite? All time. I mean, I love the music and that helps making my favorite. It's 13 years old. Just think about some stuff you've done recently. Oh, dude.

The first RJC LP I really like. Crime and Punishment. Yeah, Crime and Punishment. sounds fucking insane. Hell yeah. The Full of Hell record you mix sounds insane. I like that one a lot.

I also really like Life Run of the Gun. Didn't mix that. You didn't? Produced it. You produced it. Yeah. Great.

Like it a lot. Love it too. That would be my most recent answer, I think. New Age of Apocalypse sounds really good. Oh, hell yeah. Ruralty record sounds amazing. I think that the newest EP is one of the sounding things.

It is and it befits the band to the degree where we fought about it a little bit. How so? Where he was like can you do this

to the mix and I was like no I cannot. Just a little bit. He's a producer guy. Just a little bit where it was like listen

this sounds so good don't touch it. Okay let's see what we got here. Six and a half. He was like I'm gonna cry. Do something

what I want and he was like trust me. Trust me. I was like, okay. And then. But later, I'll let you do wherever you want. Did I tell you about someone hit me up for the mastering or no?

For that record? Yeah. Oh, really? So some guy from, I'm not going to say name. Oh, you did tell me that. More like I don't remember the name, but some guy from like somewhere in Europe. He sent a cold message about mastering. He said, hey, I really liked this record.

the master's bad here's it kind of yeah i can do better blah blah blah yeah yeah mick tons had mastered the personify royal soundtrack so he's a mastering god yeah yeah so and then he provided me the sample master so it's like a master or master kind of thing yeah and listen to it it's sounding big honestly loud it's loud but it's sounding like fucking like death go yeah the different way of like loud you know just like a yitch yeah in uh the same thing Even now it might be like just, no, like, dynamic.

Yeah. So I said, no. Of course. When we first started, there was a dude who did like Megadeth and Green Day records. Who like sent us a mix.

Basically, he like said, let me try this. And then I, dude, I look back at that and I think, that thing sounded pretty sick. Listening to it now unmastered,

it sounded pretty good. But it was like, so not what we wanted at the time. At the time, it was like, Yeah. Right. Okay, loser.

We sent him a folder that had three songs in it, and we said, do either this song or this song. And he did the one we didn't say. He did the worst one. He did like voluntary confinement, like the song that we didn't care about at all. Yeah. And it was like, okay, I didn't even want to hear that. Why would you do that? If we were in a zombie apocalypse and we have to pick one person to try and fight off the zombies and survive with, who would it be?

You have to pick Sanna. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. To fight off zombies? Yes. But that doesn't necessarily imply she's dead. No, she doesn't.

I guess you guys can, you're both alive and you can both pick one person. Who do you think in Japan is going to help you fight off zombie apocalypse? Who's going to help me? Yeah. Manny is going to not help me for sure. He's going to get away in five seconds. Going to ramen shops? before he dies

one more just one more ball you know yeah I don't know who would you pick Saina Zama okay

yeah that's fair good answer A bunch of people owe me in Japan you know not like a financial you know yeah

like things you know okay so I think some I hope someone will help me okay maybe not

because at least they can do I think I would pick like Bearer Grills or something Oh no it says from hardcore world Fuck yeah I saw him at a Yeah To try specifically to try and fight off zombies and survive with I would pick Alec Faber

For sure Jared Carmen Oh Survivor did 101 I mean besides Kyla who's pretty good of Fortnite now That's what I'm saying If I get Lana I get I get access to The family arsenal Okay okay Okay yeah that's good

So we're good. I'm taking Lana and I'm taking it. And Alec, because. Well, I'm coming then. Yeah. Yeah. You're in there. That's who I would go.

I would actually know, I would, if you have Alec, I'll meet you there with Mike. Oh, dude. Oh, that's good. Yeah. We're good to go. We're reluctantly never. And we know Mike would never eat us. That's true.

He's vegan. That's true. You think there's vegans in the zombie apocalypse? I think so. Yeah. I think at the very least, Brady would absolutely still be vegan. I think they would. would rather cook up a sunflower than

and you know damn well he could make it it work. I didn't even think about zombie can be vegan too. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine a zombie, a vegan zombie's first bite of meat is a human. It would hit crazy. They're going to look for tofu

gross and stuff? Yeah, I don't think so. I think you're right. Tofu! Yeah, just eating grass. It's funny. How, this is a really good question. How is hardcore culture perceived by the public in Japan?

How do we stay away from? Do they think you're freaks? Do regular salary man think you're freak? Regular people in Japan, do they look at you and think like, oh, you are? Yeah. No honor. How is it going? So like, it's very, everything here with normal people is very like, oh, whatever.

You know, it's very, normal people want to be not normal. bad. Yes. It depends where you are, though. If you're in California, you can walk on your hands and you still be normal, but like, if you're in middle of the country, you might run into some trouble. You might stick out, but I still don't think, like, you'll still see, like, the server at Chili's will have, like, a sleeve and stuff.

You know what I'm saying? Especially the server. You know what I mean? So it's still, like, so common. Yeah, but then I wasn't in a pink on the way home, you know? Zero track. Zero. Zero.

Zero. Yeah. Yeah. How about you? I think, uh, so people here always like, like, mind your business, you know? Do not care about like strangers, you know? They do their things.

We do our things. But people in Japan in general, like, trying to cut in what someone's do so much, you know? Like, uh. So you have people bother? you? I think so, yeah. Really? About your tattoos and stuff? Not openly, but like they always do

say stuff online and shit, you know? There's a lot show and it's so loud, fucking loud, I'm going to call cops, kind of thing, you know? People basically kind of impatient, you know? Okay. Overall? Over what people are doing, yeah? Yeah. Like something like, like, like, Santa, you have tattoos.

How is your experience in, like regular society in Japan as a rocker tatted up woman? I think so. Okay. I think so. Because, uh, nobody about her. Okay.

So in public, nothing would happen, you know? Just always online stuff, I guess. You'll look and you'll think like, oh, they're probably judging me.

But old ladies in the neighborhood. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Just like next door up here. I'm, you know, like, open to talk with anyone kind of guy. So my, our neighbor is like old, like a married couple, you know? But we're cheating, you know? They like you.

Not sure, like, what they think inside, but like, at least they do well to us, you know? And then we try to be well to them. Yeah. Okay. How are you feeling here, Zuma? You've been holding that 68th nugget for about eight minutes. For like three minutes, I'm holding like this. Sana, I have a question for you.

Yes. What's your favorite thing? Ever. Ever? Ever. Just your favorite thing. Your favorite thing ever. Ever?

Number one. Not him. Not him. No, not him. Not him. You don't count. Number two. Number two.

Very good. Very good. All right. Oh, that was adorable. Animal. Yeah. Animal. Animal.

Animal and the lats and the dog. Yeah. Did you get a dog yet? Lots. Oh, rats. Oh, rats. You like rats? We used to have rats.

I had a pet rat when I was growing up. Ratatooie? What's that? The Bratatooie. It's a movie about the little chef. Oh, we call different, but yeah. Cook. Yeah.

He's a new one, right? The cook. The best one. Yes. I love the movie. Let me, let me. The best. Yes.

Okay. You're going to get a dog when GTA 6 comes out. Yeah, because you'll be home. You're going to be a dog. Not true. She wants a dog. I want a dog. I want a dog.

What kind? Get her a damn dog. Big dog. A big dog. Yeah. We love. We love. We like a big dog.

Good. Same with me. I can't. I want a dog. Big dog? I can't. Big dog? Small.

Like five miles? Ozzie? I have Oz. I'm not a girl with my family. Okay, okay. Too far. I got you. My mom hates what I'm doing.

Really? Yeah. No honor to her? I mean, maybe, yeah. She just wanted me to be like a normal salary man, you know? Yeah, you. How the fuck I can be like that, you know? Too late.

You own a business and you are internationally renowned singer-songwriter. International superstar? That's right. All right. This is 70. Pretty close. You're having a bat. You're having a bat.

Now you don't. He's got 20 more to beat. He has had 69. He needs 89. People think it's so easy to that try it. 70. Woo. That's a lot.

It's a lot. He's already, he's doubled me. Yeah. I gave up early. I gave up early. I gave up the. second I wasn't hungry anymore.

Yeah. Do you want another one? I think I could. I'd be fine. Places you recommend people go to in Japan for people visiting. So a couple

of record stores. I'm not talking about Tokyo maybe, because it's where I'm from. Yeah. So newer Hako fans should go to Nuz, you know? Nass record store in Shibuya. Of course.

All the Hako fans funds should go to a record boy it's in kowenj it's like punk stuff more grass punk and stuff so stuff for me yeah yeah yeah like from did you know we play with them yep pretty cool that's crazy um also uh there's a record shop called bass b a s c same in kohenji cohenj is like kind of crazy the little town let's how about Tokyo 20 minutes from Shinjuku by train you know like good culture you know oh cool subculture you're gonna have to take me yeah yeah yeah what do you what are some places in Japan you would recommend people go to do um record record record shop or anything anything

anything um sky tree sky tree sky tree so cool Cool, cool, yeah. Yeah, I went last time. So beautiful. Beautiful. Oh, yeah. We got a live one. Some crazy shit.

Good answer. So cool. That's in Nasakusa, right? Yeah. You can see from the temple. Yeah, I did both. Incredible. Emo Peepee is down the street from the Skytree.

If you're going to the Skytree, go to Imo Peepee. I know it's a crazy name, but they got the Ubi soft serve. That's there. Ubi? And then they have the sweet potato. Oh, that's their... That's that one. Crazy.

Is that what Uber is? Is it sweet potato? It's like a sweet yam, right? Purple yam? Yeah, purple sweet potato is what we call. Delicious. Do you like Ubi? Yes, yes.

So good. When you're going to come back to Japan? It's been long. Ten years? Want to bring us? You're going to bring us? He did ask. He said no.

It was during the cruise. Well, how about next year, early next year? Maybe. March? Maybe. I know another band that wants to go to. We'll go together. I think a lot of people would come for both bands?

I think so. What about all three bands? How many of you? Like 16? Dude, come on. That's too many. Arms way is five. God's eight and twitching tongues is eight.

So 13. Easy. Two vans? Possa Sangha? Yeah. I'm trying to think about it. You can say we could just, we could separate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Zuma, can you confirm or deny farting bare ass in Charlie's bed? Do you just text you this from him there? One time on this store. That's shit in the bed. One time I went during history, I farted on him. He didn't even know until I. I guess. On him?

Like butt to skin? It's like a... Like here. Oh, no. That's a song. Why are you so mean that people you're told with? I mean, this is my way of showing love. Yeah.

And respect to. Okay. You got a fucking funny way of showing. Doing city things each other, you know? But you never... I'm always taken, every day I'm taking his, like, I'm hair off. hair off while he's driving

yeah he's like ouch and he's gonna kill you all but what's he saying what's he saying he's like I literally kill you I'm gonna literally kill you I'm gonna little kill you and you're always mean to

Jim you're mean to manny leave alone it's not mean it's uh it's indeed it's endearing and then it takes a big sip so you are you giving up on the nuggets

dude fuck what's he saying you're not giving up no honor in Japanese Oh, got a dress. Wait a minute. There has to be like a time limit at some point for this. How long we've been going?

Because we could eat a hundred hours, eight hour day. Hour 45? So that's already 15 minutes. Hour 45? Holy shit. You take an hour and a half? Hour and a half to eat 19 more than that.

I think I'm talking, we're talking too much. No, I was talking. I was like this. Chewing his ear off. Yeah. Yeah, you're blowing it. Oh, 70 and 71. That's a big gap between 70 and 71.

That's slowing down. How you doing? Don't you shoot that? Don't throw that thing to me. Put it down. Point that barrel away from me. Dude, I'm just sitting on my chair. You're shitting on his chair.

This is not delicious anymore. No, no. It was not delicious at 30. That's true. 71 is pretty good, Zuma. It's pretty good. We'll keep going. Get to 75.

Sure. We should make more people try this. Maybe Martin. I would love that. I think he would do pretty well. The person I think would beat me as George from Dead Body. Oh, he could eat the... I think he would eat the 200.

Legit is the best eater I've ever met. He might get sick of it. He puts it down. Yeah, he's insane. He's eating cheesecake for breakfast. Do you have... What's your favorite tour ever? Um,

Muscchie. Or, wow. Yeah, anywhere. Any two. Ever. I think Sound and Fury.

Oh, yeah. Yes, that was amazing. Sound Infuri. Yeah, that was a good one. We're going to do that again. Yeah. One more time.

So excited. Yeah. So it's going to be amazing. Here's a clip of it. Crazy. The Sangua Sogabog Tour was so insane, too. Oh, yeah.

Very good. tour. Oh, yeah. We did five days in that. Yeah. So good. We were hanging out all day every day. Yes.

I know. It's so fun. Did you like that one? Yeah, yeah. What was dying fetus better? I mean, both are really good, but. A little different. Because Sangu's, that was like our first food tour, you know?

So I felt kind of special. That's cool. You are special? Yes, I am. Like, you're, you're special. Thanks, man. Oh. Why did you shave your head?

When? Why did you shave your head? It just felt like it was time. I was the only guy who praised his hairstyle. Every time I got a haircut, no joke. I wouldn't post about it. He would respond and be like, haircut looks good, bro.

Oh. He really cares. I feel as though I was supportive. Yeah, I mean, you... Yeah, 100%. He's also asking when am I going to get a haircut. He noticed when, like, my wife would not. Oh, I see.

Like regular. like if I got a little trim he would be like the trim looks really good nice I think my favorite was the blonde that was cool mullet kind of wild style that was cool villain that was cool villain skunk skunk it's gonna get immortalized is it oh yeah it is yeah that's true you got haircut recently I got a haircut the other day normally he grows fucking crazy I think you've had the same hair ever since you're lazy to go to it like more or less I don't like going barber but my barber also closed for two months but it's open again

Just reopened, yeah. Victory Barber shop? Same way we went before. Eagle Rock? I got my haircut by Kyle. Kyle. No, Kevin. Kevin.

Yeah, same spot. They moved. Victory Barber Company. Isn't that what it's called now? Victory Barber Company. Victory Barber Company. Eagle Rock. New location.

You got a different guy, but same shop, right? Ariel. He owns the shop. I see Aria or Kevin, they'll cut you right up. You're going to love it. Yep. Your hair. Hair.

How you feel? O.G. Mosher. You give up, don't you? It would be dishonorable if you gave up. I mean, I don't care. Do you give up? Is the older question down on? Yeah, we're all done.

What? Yeah, that's it. No more questions? No. Trying to think about questions. Oh, Charlie needs to leave. 70-73. Can you believe that?

I'm impressed. That's more than I thought you were going to eat. That's 20. more than Bo. 21 more than Bo. My blood hurts. 80A is crazy. Yeah, I agree.

Like how? You... I was bigger then. Yeah. He was consistently putting a lot of calories in at that time. I was conditioned for battle. Right. At that time.

Right. You're a skinny now. Yeah. Down that time, I guess. Yeah. And it took me a year to get those 88 nuggets off of me. I think you didn't eat a nugget for six to nine months. I haven't.

I've hardly. touched them since. Like it broke you. Yeah. You traumatized. Traumatized. It was bad. It was bad, man. But I'll tell you what, the creme brulee and cheesecake I had after from Martha's country bakery. That was good. Incredible.

That's that good place? Oh, yeah. It's good. It was in Queens. Well, Sana, what's going on? What are you thinking about? What's up? Two. Chill? Two, yes. That's what's up. Okay, good. What are you, after, after ramen?

What's the first thing you're going to do when you guys finally get home in japan yeah yama okaya i'm gonna not oh raman not oh after ramen yeah after ramen she said uh yamaoka is uh name of the ramen place yeah cool after um i want try table eleven coffee yeah nice very good one i want a coffee right what's the best uh what's your favorite canned coffee. Mine is the Rainbow boss. A can't The boss. Mine is a boss

Cafe Oleg. The beige one. I like the gold boss. Do you like that one? Gold. Gold. Rainbow all day, dude. Is that a sweet one? Yeah. Like a little. You're going to love the rainbow. I like them all. Yeah. I got one yesterday. Yeah.

Or in Little Tokyo. Little Tokyo here is so cool. In Little Tokyo, they have a little Tokyo. They have a They have a little Tokyo. You can get the big. That supermarket. Yeah. Yeah.

How often do you drink Pocari sweat? Not too often. Really? Is it bad for you? No. But I don't know. I just. You like water?

Yeah. And then I'm green tea. I'm a green tea guy, you know, when I'm eating something. Yeah. Not Sweden, you know. Do you like Pocari sweat? Yes. So good.

Mm-hmm. I lived off of it. Yeah, you're obsessed. I'm obsessed. But the American. American version has more sugar. Oh. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like Gatorade's type of shit. And in Japan, it's, I think it's like 55 calories. What about you? What about you? He's got can't drink or eat. Michael crying. Michael Claw.

You mess up. Michael. He's going to like that. Here it's about 120. 120 calories for a per car sweat. Oh, it's a long. More than twice. Yeah.

Too much. It's 60? I think it's 55. I'm pretty sure. It might also just be metric. It could be metric. But wouldn't it be more? I don't know.

Yeah, it's weird. I think calories is both. It's universal. K-tiles and calorie are the same. You can correct me below. That does feel good. I can confirm it does. Stretch that semi-calfa-gat-lick.

He'd never play out of these in his life. No. Imagine Zuma playing some fucking shoegays out of a Fender twin. So loud. Yeah. So loud. Why are they so loud, Taylor? Shugays?

No, just the twin reverbs. Clean. Clean is has a lot more headroom. How many watts is that? 80. 80. And it'll, this one's 80.

They sell it in almost every watt. It'll be 20. You can do up to 85. I think they might have a 120. Imagine a 300 watt twin reverb. I mean, that will be like. louder than any other amp in here. That's crazy.

It's brutal. It's crazy. So fucking loud. What's your favorite amp? That's not a Marshall. Because I know the JMP is the best amp ever. I like the heavy metal. I don't know if it's on camera.

I like the heavy metal warfare a lot, Chicago. Dean Costello Amplification. But I also like the Mesa DC-10, which is the Bradboat right special. Is that 100-watt-1? Yeah. Yeah, they're dope. What's your favorite ant? 100 watts, not 100 nuggets.

Yeah. Because the DC5 is popular in Japan. Yeah, it's easy to access. You should get one because they sound good. True. But the 50 Cal is almost the same as the DC5. You give up or what? Can I have a box to go to the game?

No, no, no, no. You can have them. No, I'm joking. I'm not going to eat nuggets for the next three months. Yeah. So you're finishing with 73. And that's like probably Respectable

That's if Sainna counted it correctly Which it could be had a few Could be more, could be less How many did you have? She counted those Probably at three Oh, 73 No, but yours

No, hers are in there Oh, okay She didn't put in I guess Yeah, she did She did. She said she did Oh, 76 You had 73

So 76 Oh, pretty good Better 13 off That's lovely, man Brilliant Fucking brilliant When are you going back to the UK I don't know

You should go Because they don't love us Why? They like us But they don't love us They have their own cruelty That's why Who's that with the sea

They're good people We pray with them a couple times The homie bolt for our son Is in that group Oh that's right Yeah Mix one of their records See

If there's a like Amazing tour Yeah That we can hop on in Europe, we might go back. You know that? We'll go back to Europe. Bigger bands.

Have us, please. Support in Europe is the best. As long as it's not crazy, stupid bustle that like, the life, that we have to lose money from the beginning, I'm going to be in. I don't like those. Yeah. Do not like offer fucking like 300 euro every day, but 500 every day for the bus. That's how they all do it.

I just had to say no to one of those. That's scum. I tried to explain. that we've never done that. Yeah, never. You don't need to do that. But in the metal world, they think that's what you're supposed to do

to get started. To get going, yeah. To that, I say, fuck you. I disagree. I believe you can go and just have your own shows that are smaller and get one where you're worth that. You don't need to pay to play anything anywhere in the world.

No. Okay. What a great time we just had. Santa, posting with us. Yes. It's very fun. It was very fun.

Yeah, it was so fun. Any final messages you want to tell to the people? When will this be posted? In a few weeks. Okay. You could say it in Japanese if you want. Yeah, say anything. Sure.

Say whatever you like. Thank you. Cruelty is this from, we're going to, so we'll see. Let's see. Hell yeah

What does she say? She said that we just keep grinding So please support Keep supporting us Straight up Perfect Zuma after 73 Nuggets

And three for Sana Are there any final messages You want to tell the people This was not Honestly My hundred person You know Yeah your tummy hurt this morning

I could have been I could have done better You know Next time Oh A year later Some shit I'm going to do

I'll do you one more time I love it Okay With a full one or you want to be Who you want to choose No I mean me or someone else Head in head Well I mean

Nobody else thinks they can do it Because they shouldn't I didn't I want to just have food I think it would be funny to do you I think George from Dead Body could do it So I really want to see him do it He's too big to

Do stuff in me You want somebody of Like someone like me Your size? I'm not crazy. Too crazy. Okay. Taylor, any party?

Maybe that's not. One of we supposed to be doing. Oh, yeah. That would be good. Bye. Oh, calm daddy. Calm daddy. Thank you so much for watching everybody.

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We love you all. Bye. Bye.