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It is the 11th day of Hello Internet.
This is a marathon.
I've done so many train trips back and forth to come and see you here, Brady.
I know, it's amazing.
I admire your persistence.
But all of a sudden, I can't believe that we're coming to the end of the 12 days.
An ultimate.
Don't write, you know, there's still time for magic.
That's what the word coming means.
We're coming to the end.
It's not the end.
That will be tomorrow.
But it's gone by in a flash.
What have you got there?
You've got another card from Tim.
What does it say?
Yes, this was just a random one that I opened up.
Grey's doing a little pre-read before reading it out loud
in case there's anything libelous.
Some of them are long and you're trying to you want to
see where is the question all right skip i've decided this is one that's one for the recycling
just lots of you know brady's great brady's excellent yeah that is 100 the reason i skip
it is like brady it's just all these brady compliments what if i go and i've opened one
here it looks like it's got something in it oh So this is a card that's full of blank postcards
for Rochester, New York.
Dear Gray on the left, Brady on the right.
Gray, here are some postcards that pretend
Rochester isn't a frozen tundra eight months of the year.
This comes from George in New York.
I love the show.
I'm still on the flag voting,
but listen to every episode since the beginning.
Not a question, but I would love more Plane Crash Corner.
Wouldn't we all, George?
Wouldn't we all?
No, we wouldn't all.
And more updates about Lulu, Audrey, and Mr. Chompers.
And of course, more Black Stump News.
Best podcast on the internet.
Well, I mean, I can't disagree with that part.
There's no question or discussion point there.
But I enjoyed every word of that.
Every word.
Thank you, George from New York.
How long do you think
people would keep listening to Hello Internet
if all we did was read cards from people saying
I really enjoyed the show?
I have skipped a lot of them because of that.
But we have enjoyed them.
Thank you, people.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, this one's come from Australia, so it must be good.
Oh, it's well sealed though.
Okay, Brady, I have a question for you.
Yeah.
What is your favorite place in Australia that's not in South Australia?
I mean, can you even think of one?
My favorite place in Australiaralia that's not
in south australia is ularoo or ayers rock by some distance i love it i love going there and
if anyone ever goes to australia i highly recommend visiting there and if you can i
highly recommend driving there because that's like part of the experience for me and the best place from to
drive there from adelaide no no no through south australia you can't sneak that in well that's
illegal yeah you can only really drive there from adelaide or darwin and so anyway airs rock
definitely go there people ularoo magnificent so australian so beautiful am i misremembering but i
thought i came across a
story saying they were going to limit visitor numbers to ularu at some point or am i thinking
about that incorrectly well there's always talk about banning climbing it because the native
aboriginal people there don't like it being climbed and there's a sign at the bottom saying
we would prefer that you didn't climb it but But you are allowed to climb it. Right.
A lot of people just go ahead and climb it anyway.
They'll close it if it goes above a certain temperature
because it becomes dangerous.
But if it's cool enough, you are allowed to climb
or you can just walk around the base.
I've been to Ayers Rock three or four times.
I've never climbed it.
I've always just walked around the base, you know,
because I thought it was the right thing to do.
But there is always talk about banning climbing it.
Maybe they think it would hurt the tourism
numbers too much because a certain number of people want to go there and conquer the rock
and climb it so maybe that's why the ban hasn't come in yet but there's always talk about it
i told you about taking rocks from it didn't i i must have told you about this on halloween
before so people always want to take a piece of the rock as like a souvenir and there are bits of
rock everywhere so you can just pick a little bit of rock up and take it home but you're not supposed to do that it is banned and
you shouldn't do it yeah there's like a but there's like an urban legend that taking a piece
of airs rock gives you incredible bad luck and it's really really common it's like there's a
whole like the people that run like the office almost every week will receive three or four
pieces of rock sent from somewhere in the world from people saying i took this piece of rock my life's like gone to crap ever since can you please
just go and put it back on the rock i'm trying to undo the bad luck so you know obviously it's
superstition of course but it's a funny story that like there's almost like a whole department
for receiving bits of returned rock from people who took it that's great what's your favorite
place in america that's not in north carolina
but see the thing really is i'm not doing boosterism for a particular part in america
all the time so nobody needs to ask me that question to say like oh what's your favorite
part in america that's not the part of america you're talking about if someone from england or
australia said to you gray i've got like two or three days and i've got a free ticket to go to
america and i can only go to one place in america and it's the only've got a free ticket to go to America and I can only go to one place
in America and it's the only time I'm ever going to go to America in my life. Oh my God. What's
the thing, the one thing I should go and see for a day or two? I know that's really hard.
That's an impossible question to ask. I know it's difficult and I know it's different from
person to person. So I'm just going to make you take the plunge. You don't know the person,
you don't know what their personal interests are you just know they're only going to go to america once and you want them to come away thinking i'm
glad i saw that i don't know if this is the best answer but it's the it's the answer that's coming
to my mind and it is a thing that i often recommend which is the area around moab in utah
and i think there's two national parks and several state parks that
all surround the city. And I have had various reasons to go to Moab a few times. And I would
recommend it because I think it's beautiful in a way that's different from almost anywhere else
in the world. But I think I can also answer your question this
way because it's very American. And for the rest of that person's life, if they ever watch movies
that take place in the West, they will be able to say like, oh, I know that spot. Like I was in that
canyon, right? Or I know those hills in the background. So even if I guessed really wrong,
and it's a person who doesn't like an outdoorsy deserty place
it's still a place that i think like i could recover a bit of a win in the future if they're
watching a movie that takes place in america that they might then have the feeling of oh i was there
and i think that might be better than new york because it would be unexpected in a sense like
they it's like ah okay i have some connection with that place so maybe that's what i would pick maybe that's what i would pick hmm okay yeah i've not been there so i obviously have
to do i recommend it yeah obviously yeah i will go there i will go there and have a look i would
send someone to new york i think that is the safest bet yeah new york city is the safest bet
for sure i feel like that's a place that it is good to have seen in your life. I'm beginning to tire of it a little bit.
I've probably just been there too much lately.
In fact,
as people are listening to this,
in fact,
I've just got back from there yesterday.
Oh,
did you?
You just got back from there yesterday.
As people are listening to this.
Yes.
So,
but I've been there like three times in the last three months.
So maybe I've had my fill for now,
but it's amazing.
Isn't it?
Like,
you know,
it's amazing to look at.
It's amazing to be inside.
So much to do.
I mean, obviously, I grew up kind of in the shadow of New York.
But in recent years, I've had opportunity to go back there a bunch.
It is a great place.
And it's very different to experience it as an adult coming back versus growing up as a kid.
And I like it both ways and you know we were talking
about city design before one thing that i really like about new york is it's distinct like it feels
like new york even just on a random street yeah and i like that property in cities and there are
many cities particularly in america that feel like they could be anywhere and new york is not one of
those places it's also the scale of New York.
Like it's so big and you do start taking it for granted
because everything's so big.
And sometimes you'll look at a building and you'll think,
oh, that's a bit of a disappointing nondescript building
by New York standards.
And then you'll stop and look at it more closely and go,
my goodness, it's like 30 stories tall.
It's ginormous.
It would be the biggest building in Adelaide by quite some distance.
It would even dwarf the mighty black stump and yet here it's just like just a little it's just
like a nothing building and that's like pretty amazing that happens it's a pretty amazing city
to wander around here we go gray dear brady and gray this comes from sydney australia from carolyn
thank you for continuing to create such an awesome and enjoyable podcast.
But enough about the Unmade podcast.
No, sorry.
I would be interested to know what the layout of the Hello Internet Museum
would be once it's opened.
Have you thought about this yet?
I mean, how is it going to work, the Hello Internet Museum?
Is it going to be lots of different rooms?
Will there be themed rooms, do you think? Or is it going to be, the Hello Internet Museum? Is it going to be lots of different rooms? Will there be themed rooms, do you think?
Or is it going to be like one big open space?
How is the Hello Internet Museum going to work?
We seriously need to start thinking about this
because my office is going to start overflowing soon.
That is true.
I mean, we've already settled that the golden hot stopper
is going to be set up like the Queen's Jewels.
It's behind a glass case and you need people movers to keep people moving on by because throngs that are going to be there yeah so that obviously it's going to be in some kind
of vault that would be in the center yeah the museum i actually you know i don't want to get
too carried away here and get right designed you've never never thought about this of course
but i do think it would probably be just one large space.
And at the center with all the lights on it is the golden hot stopper.
And then the walls around the edge would have different themed displays and cases that people kind of wander around.
Right, but I mean, it is going to be quite a vast space by the time that we're done.
I'm talking the turbine hole that you know yeah well like this is what yeah but when you say oh on the walls on the edge but i'm i in my head i'm thinking
yes but those walls will be very far apart from each other by the time we're done collecting
artifacts for the show so there will be like plinths in the middle right plinths in between
where people can look at things like mounted yeah you're right yeah there's got to be more it can't
just be the walls and then you have to take a five minute walk to get to the center where the tools are the other option is like we go bigger
like okay more ambitious and i'm talking there are different levels that you could go with your
ambition but when you come to like top level ambition i'm talking like united will donate
the plane you were on when you came into land at Newark that we did the episode about
and that could be like suspended from the ceiling.
The car we did the road trip on could be donated
by the hire car company.
So there'll be all these like huge machine artifacts
and children could wander up and down the plane
and the seat you were sitting on when the aborted landing happened,
that would be like roped off to protect it.
So you couldn't pose for photos in that because it would get worn away by the course the constant usage but like so you could
start having all these like really like you know major objects i love your grandiosity brady i
really do they're probably not going to donate a whole passenger airliner are they for the sake
that's not going to happen is it i mean one can dream one can dream we just keep we just keep
growing the show and eventually you know they'll have to say yes.
It could happen.
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
What do you got?
Great.
Can I show you one?
Yep.
I should have shown you this on the first day of Hello Internet, on Christmas Day.
But I lost it here under a bag of other postcards
we do have a lot of postcards laying around this was sent by a tim who i've actually met in person
and has even done a little bit of work for me animation she's quite a talented artist
called allison and she sent this christmas card with a piece of artwork on it that she created
oh i feel like i've seen her work on the subreddit like this style
looks familiar this is great so it's a drawing of the two of us enjoying our holidays and i am a
robot who is wearing a very comfy maryland flag looking shirt not the typical gray robot though
not not the one that exists in the zeitgeist yeah so there's like obviously the
i feel like you have a much more consistent representation which is like a good-looking
caveman that's your like the robot is sometimes like this has many different features one of the
things i like about this robot is my in my head the robot has clamp hands like in this and this
version of the robot has little clamp hands which i like
so that's what you imagine like if i'm imagining the like the style guide for the cgpk robot i
always think of it as having like the classic robot clamp hands okay as opposed to having like
articulated fingers yeah but this is like a very human looking robot yeah like a silvery man almost
like a silver man like it's almost like a tin Yeah, the silver surfer or the tin man.
I also like that the eyes are just glowing green.
Like the glasses are implied with these green rectangles around the eyes,
but it's not actually glasses.
I think the only problem with that is that that picture makes you look friendlier
than I would imagine in that kind of picture.
You look too relaxed in that picture.
That's the problem.
Ah, yes, that's the problem ah that's yes
that's what it is i have a very relaxed posture yeah and i don't imagine you being that relaxed
right sitting in front of a fire next to me having a drink wearing christmas sweaters yes i like that
you have a hot stopper in your drink as well oh yeah a little hot stopper in there you have a
nail and gear shirt i really like this art style though it's it's great alison has sent me a link
to a digital version of it as well.
So we'll make sure that people have a look at what's going on.
Okay.
So now I like this.
It's Dear Dr. Brady Heron and the God of Bees.
Finally, I get some title here.
I like this.
I hope I find you both well.
Merry Christmas.
My topic suggestion is
chick flicks, chick flicks, chick flicks.
There have been a lot of cards
asking A about chick flicks in general
and when we're finally going to do
our promised pajama party
chick flick episode.
Yeah, Grey mentioned a long time ago
that he has many opinions
on the formulas and tropes of chick flicks.
And I would love to hear both of your favorites. Hers the devil wears product which is great excellent excellent chick flick you know keeping it festive as well maybe discussion on
love actually i think of our chick flick episode as a thing that i do want to do at some point still i don't know what that
would be but perhaps to discuss it at another time i do have an idea for like for 2019 there's a way
that like i sort of want to do stuff on the podcast which then brings up some of the things that we've
been promising for a while like chick flick like the cricket episodes yeah all those things okay but yeah do i have a favorite chick flick
i mean there's so many that i've seen again i have like the recency bias like i saw how to
lose a guy in 10 days just a couple days ago which is pretty good it has a pretty good structure to
it love actually is obviously a classic is that a chick flick Actually? I wouldn't put that as a chick flick category.
It's very hard to define the difference sometimes
between chick flicks and romantic comedies.
There is a blurred line there.
I think of chick flick as a super set.
I have a very broad interpretation of what would be a chick flick.
You think of those charts like, what is a sandwich?
And you have structural purists versus ingredient purists yes all right i am very expansive in my like what is a chick flick
like maybe controversial i would put the twilight saga as chick flicks like i would categorize
those under this umbrella i would put love actually as chick flick i'm open to many things
being chick flicks even things that people would totally disagree on.
Do you have a more,
you look like you have a more narrow concept perhaps.
Like when you think romantic comedy versus chick flick,
what are you thinking?
I don't know.
There's sort of this date movie,
romantic comedy, chick flick.
I don't know.
I think I've never thought about how I think about it.
And so putting me on the spot and I like,
I reserve the right to change my mind about this,
but I think of like Chick Flick as one that when the bean counters
were sitting around in Hollywood thinking,
who's our target audience?
They would have been saying women, particularly younger women.
And I think when they were sitting around making Legally Blonde,
for example, I imagine they were thinking,
who's going to go and see this movie? Top of their list were kind of women, particularly younger women. And I think when they were sitting around making Legally Blonde, for example, I imagine they were thinking, who's going to go and see this movie?
Top of their list were kind of women, particularly younger women.
I mean, other people see it and enjoy it.
I love that movie.
Right.
But they only have so many marketing dollars.
Where are you going to spend the marketing dollars?
Yeah.
But when they made Love Actually, I don't think they would have straight away said,
this is a film that's mainly targeted at women.
So I think maybe that's how i think of it
the number one category in their marketing was right so you you are a demographic purist in a
sense for chick flicks like what like what thing matters to you i mean you know and i happens to
be that i really love those films and they're not restricted to women but that's just i don't know
that's just an attempt at defining what it is in my head it's not a bad place to start a discussion
like what is the perceived marketing demographic for this movie yeah like i just really don't have
anything in my head except a general this is where i am arbitrary man right of like this movie is a
chick flick that movie is a chick flick and i don't really have in my head any clear idea of
what it is yeah i mean i think in some ways a huge influencing factor is was it a movie that
my wife wanted to see that we watched together it's like oh well maybe it's a chick flick right
but yeah i don't know i couldn't possibly pick a favorite but they're like there's so many good
ones what's the one with alicia silverstone clueless clueless yeah i mean clueless is classic yeah i was gonna say like it's a jane austen of chick flicks right which is almost
redundant i would probably put that as as my number one that also fits totally in the genre
like there's no there's no ambiguity as to what genre that fits in as well that's clearly whatever
venn diagram you draw i can't think of one where that doesn't classify for the genre as well so
so that's why i feel comfortable placing it in there yeah clueless is like axiomatically a chick flick
like i would feel like if if we had to record our episode and pick a film for it that would
have been my pick but who knows yeah that would be high on the list yeah i don't know if it could
possibly work but i would find it hilarious to do a discussion of the Twilight Saga with you.
But that is also an investment of seven movies.
I'd love to do that.
I'd love to do that.
Because like, I want to like that more than I do.
The first one I quite liked.
And then it just gets really bad, doesn't it?
See, I unironically think those are good movies.
Like, no joke, no humor in at all i can
actually defend the twilight saga like all day long but it's like it requires a hell of an
investment from people on the other side i think after about four films it falls off a bit of a
cliff have you made it all the way through to the end brady maybe i haven't like i like it when
jacob starts getting a bit better looking that becomes more interesting then because there's like a genuine like,
I would have thought there'd be more of a rivalry in Bella's head.
So the first one's good because it's like the magic of that,
wow, there are vampires.
And then it gets good when Jacob gets his hair cut
and suddenly he's like a viable alternative.
Right.
He suddenly has grown up.
Yeah.
But then it just gets really weird when you start all that international intrigue of like vampire politics
and stuff it's just like what the like i just want the will he or won't he boyfriend girlfriend
stuff and when it all gets a bit weird but see here's the thing i kind of love it i love when
they bring in like these weird vampire politics from from foreign lands i love it
because it's so ridiculous but somehow for me it doesn't quite fall off the edge of being stupid
and like the guy who plays i forgot his name the main ridiculous like yeah michael shane yeah he's
so overacting but it's like you've sold me on this somehow like i don't know like i just totally buy
into it you're more of a team Jacob then than team Edward?
I think I probably would have been a bit more team Jacob.
I don't know.
I respect her loyalty.
But I don't know what I think about those films.
I think I don't like them.
But I definitely would like to talk about them.
It's way more fun talking about films you don't like
than films you do like.
So it'll happen one day
people but we've been saying that for a while we still haven't done our visit to the tip i saw a
couple of christmas cards saying when are we finding like the rubbish tip like i was talking
one time about how i love going to the rubbish tip and i was saying oh you should come with me
i'm finding it so hard to take you seriously now because we've opened so many cards
that a not trivial amount of glitter from the cards has made its way into
your hair like we've got we've been like glitter bombed over here yeah there's glitter everywhere
we're covered in christmas we're both sparkly like vampires right now brady