Her Discussions by Dr Faye - The 10-Min Daily Habit to Find Purpose, Set Boundaries & Finally Be YOU

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

If you’re struggling with people-pleasing, body image, or constantly putting others first, you’re not alone. In this first episode, Savannah Sachdev opens up about her journey through childhood ch...allenges, anxiety, and societal pressures, and the 10-minute daily habit that helped her find purpose, set boundaries, and finally feel at home in her body.We dive deep into:Savannah’s early years at boarding school and how it shaped her sense of self (0:47)Coping mechanisms she used to navigate stress and anxiety (3:08)Her lowest points and struggles with anxiety, and how she began to heal (7:15)Life as a stepmum and balancing new roles while maintaining self-care (13:29)The darker side of social media and its impact on confidence (19:44)Navigating food noise, beauty standards, and external validation (27:47 – 31:45)Recovery, exercise, and finding a daily practice that supports mental clarity (34:24 – 38:54)Tips for beginners starting a new habit or prioritising self-care (42:19 – 48:55)How body confidence and self-assurance can transform intimacy and relationships (48:55 – 51:38)The link between movement, nervous system regulation, and overall wellbeing (51:38 – 53:15)The one thing Savannah wishes every girl knew by 25 (53:15)This episode isn’t about chasing perfection: it’s about healing your relationship with your body, redefining wellness on your own terms, and learning how to finally be enough, exactly as you are.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So I've run every day for just over four years. How many days is that? 15,600. Now it feels like brushing my teeth. Now my body feels like kind of gross if I don't do it. Running has given me so much purpose. Before I started my run streak, I got on some antidepressants. For over four years, she's run every single day.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Savannah Satchev is considered one of the most recognizable figures in the running community. Let's talk a little bit about a Zen pic. I was so, so, so shocked when the amount of girls who were, healthy weight. They were coming into hospital because of the side effects of taking OZMPIC. We've been taught to hate ourselves forever
Starting point is 00:00:36 and now we're just expected to love up. Like what? Like I've hated myself since I was seven. I've never really been the person that people want to hang out with. Savannah. Miss Faye. What do you wish every woman knew
Starting point is 00:00:49 by the age of 25? Thank you so, so much for clicking on this podcast the first ever episode. I'm so excited for the conversations that we are going to have. We have really, really, really big plans, but we need your support. So please leave a review or subscribe. It really, really, really helps us get these conversations about women's health and wellness to more people.
Starting point is 00:01:21 So quickly, just click the button. Just click the button. Okay, thank you. Before you found a safe place in movement, you were just a girl trying to feel comfortable in your own skin. What was school like for you? Oh my God. Awful.
Starting point is 00:01:41 So bad. I was fully the person that just had no friends. Like just, which actually, do you know what I was thinking about this today. It's so weird being an influencer and now like so much of our lives being based on like engagement and likes and spending time people all the time. Because I've never had that before. I've never really had like a really close friendship group and I've never really been the person that like people want to hang out with. So it's really weird to then become a concentrator or an influencer. And then like people want to go for coffee.
Starting point is 00:02:09 They want to put your brain about things. They want to. And I'm like, it's strange because I know, I know you would, you never wanted to be my friend. Like I've never really had that before. It's a weird, it's a weird thing to experience all of a sudden. But yeah, school was the massive tangent. But school was a very strange space. And I was one of the only people of color at a boarding school, which was just, it was a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:30 So how old were you when you went to boarding school? I went to that school from the age of about 10, but I didn't start boarding until 12 or 13. 12, I think I started boarding. And I was also, because Indian culture is really, really revolves around feeding. So I didn't really have much understanding of my limits around food
Starting point is 00:02:55 because within my culture or within my family specifically, a plate would be put in front of you a plate would be put in front of you a plate would be put in front of you so I was a lot large than the other girls which also added to a lot of them like me not being able to like share their clothes they're not really wanting to be friends with me
Starting point is 00:03:10 because I don't really look like them so yeah school was very weird and then got to 12, 13 and lost like a load of weight and then people started being really nice to me like and that so like my initial experience around like food and exercise was very tied to the way that I looked
Starting point is 00:03:27 yeah and then fast-fass-fing forward to being 24, 25 and finding running again in, like during lockdown, that was a completely different experience. And that's kind of when I started running every day and kind of figuring out that it could just be for fun. So there's like a solid 10 year gap in between of me just like hating running. So when you were going through that tough time where you didn't feel like you fit in. How did you cope when you felt quite isolated in boarding school and you felt you were struggling with not feeling like you fitted in? Oh, I literally just became everyone else. Like I responded to how people were around me and became palatable to them. Like I tried to
Starting point is 00:04:17 fit their body standards. I've tried to be, I've like made myself very small and very quiet because I'm naturally quite loud. And it's really weird. Like you know this about me. Like I'm, I'm, I'm really introverted, but with the right small group people, I'm like very loud and annoying and large. Never annoying. Never. Like, if there's one thing I've realized in the last year is like that self, I never thought, I don't think, I didn't think that I was like self-deprecated anymore. I thought I'd kind of healed that part. But then things like that crop up where I call myself like loud and annoying. And because I, I think I experienced something similar where like I felt like I was too loud, too big, too annoying. And I thought that I
Starting point is 00:04:59 don't talk that. But then I say stuff like that. You don't stop calling yourself annoying. You're right there. The negative language around that. And actually interestingly, sorry, so many tangents, but like my steps on the other day, I was messing around being myself. Like, I feel like I'm naturally like a thespian by nature at school. Like I love drama. I love singing and stuff. And he was in public. I was kind of singing to him and my partner, Steve. And he was like you're really embarrassing me and it triggered the little girl in me and I got and I took it so personally and I immediately had a conversation with him and I was like I was like I can take this really personally and I can be really hurt and I can be kind of not because I feel like if a friend
Starting point is 00:05:34 had said that to me I'd maybe be a little bit nastier it would have maybe angry but when I was talking to a child you can't be like that so I immediately sat him down and I was like what it what is it that bothers you about being perceived like if if I'm being fully myself and we're having a good time together why why is that embarrassing and I tried to just like analyze that with him and at an earlier age because it's the little boys that made me feel like that and I don't want our little boy to go to school and make another girl feel like that. So yeah, trying to tackle that from a younger age for sure. How has having like a stepson maybe like brought up? Brought up some of those like memories from school from your childhood. I mean kids are so blunt. So do you know it's
Starting point is 00:06:18 it's not so much that he brings up memories of childhood, but he definitely brings up the realization that I'm not healed. Like, I got together with Steve about seven years ago, and I sat down for dinner, obviously, with them every night and we'd have normal meals. And one day he was like, why is Savannah vegetarian and we're not? And I was like, I'm not vegetarian. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:06:38 Why is Savannah vegetarian? And he was like, she just never eats as much as us. Why does she not eat very much? He'd like tied the link of me not eating very much to me being vegetarian. I don't know how we'd come to that link, but it made me realize that I'd actively tried to eat less than a four-year-old.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And I was like, what crap? Like, I was trying to measure my plate off his. And it was like one of my first realizations of like a child has noticed that and like this could really impact him and I need to get my act together. And like now it's so funny because people will see a woman running every day
Starting point is 00:07:12 and they'll be like, oh, you're so addicted, you have, it's so disordered, ordered it so obsessive. But I've seen blokes do run straight because some people are always like, oh my God, you're so disciplined. You're so strong, whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:24 But it's interesting how much actually going for a little jog every day has actually helped to regulate my appetite and help to remind me what fuel is. I completely found that with running because running makes you so hungry. And also running makes you so hungry, but also you know that you can't run a 30K without having like a proper breakfast.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And I actually found the same thing it did really heal my relationship with food. Eating, when you're literally physically trying to eat about four bagels in a day before like the marathon, it does shift your perception of food. I want to go back to the whole running thing. What was the low point that led you to start in?
Starting point is 00:08:15 the running streak? I think like everyone, like lockdown just sucked. Actually, I can kind of remember the day. I had moved in with Steve. Okay. And I'd lost my job. I got sacked actually because of lockdown. So I was living with him and his little boy, our little boy.
Starting point is 00:08:38 He had a child from a previous relationship. And I just had no purpose. I was effectively being someone else's mom. I didn't really have a wage and I was just like so lost and so down. And then I remember interviewing for jobs and a company, it was a really good company. It was a really good wage and it was the biggest wage had ever been offered. I got offered a job this one random day and it was incredible. I was so excited.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And we celebrated for dinner and I will never prematurely celebrate for anything ever again because I rung them up the next morning and I was like, you didn't actually let me know if there was like any dress code or anything that I needed to. they're not oh we're so sorry we actually at the end of the day we interviewed someone else we actually gave the job away um and i just remember being so shaky and so upset and so down that i just like in a haze got up and just like went outside that for a walk that kind of felt like a drunken walk um and i remember just like popping down like i don't i actually don't even remember it but that became a coping mechanism that i would do pretty much every day and then that slowly became a jog.
Starting point is 00:09:45 And then before I knew, I was like three weeks into just jogging to the shop every day. It was never supposed to be a run street at all. It was just like it felt like the most natural. It felt like I was like getting the wiggles out of my body. It felt like the most natural way to get the stress out of my body and like expel that feeling. Yeah. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I feel like this is the perfect point to explain like how we met. Because basically when I started working at a. a doctor and I wanted to continue doing social media. It meant that on my days off, I would literally lock myself in my flat and not leave because I had to get like a certain amount of stuff done just to keep both of those plates spinning. And by 2pm, I was just getting these really, really, really, really like negative spirals. I hadn't left my four walls and just felt really crap and it wasn't good for my productivity. I wasn't getting through my to-do list. So then anyway, I'm like scrolling because I'm not being productive and I stumble upon this video by this creator who is saying never
Starting point is 00:10:48 trust an indoor thought and I'm like this is exactly what I needed to see right now and then I get up and I go outside and have a walk and then maybe two weeks later I'm sat next to this creator at a dinner and I'm with a friend who also really likes this creator and I'm like I don't want to interrupt their date, they're with their boyfriend, or partner, I should say, they're with their partner and they get up to go and leave or they pay the bill. And I say to this person, like, I watched this video that you did like two weeks ago and it's just completely like changed like my mental health and really, really, really impacted me. And then this creator then stays and chats to us for 40 minutes. Yeah. And then now she's a really, really good
Starting point is 00:11:36 friend and I think there's a quote that you have said that I will read out to you. Running has helped you get out of your head and into your body. What does that feel like in practice? I've been got a little, are they going to be watching it? Is it going to be? Both. Okay, well if you're watching this, I've got a little tattoo on my arms. This is out of my head and into my body. I guess the best way to put it is that, like for me, running is very much presence over performance. Like, I just, I don't give a crap about speed. I don't give a crap about time. I don't give a crap about what you're wearing. It's literally just about, like, bringing myself back to reality. Because I think, like, if anyone's ever experienced any kind of anxiety, you can just get so lost in, like, sometimes the
Starting point is 00:12:24 physicality of it. Like, I get the shake so bad. I get so nervous in my legs. Like, I get, like, just jelly legs and it just kind of brings me back to real life. And it's really interesting because now obviously I have a little boy. It's a really fun way to, if he as a nine-year-old's ever really agitated or angry, I can be like, let's go get out of our heads and into our bodies together. It's a really, really great way to describe exercise. And anytime you don't want to go for a run and you're in a shit mood, if you like to give yourself that little sentence, like, let me go get out my head and into my body for 10 minutes. It's such a great way to actually push yourself to get out the door. I think you've touched on a really, really important point about like the physicality
Starting point is 00:13:04 of anxiety. Do not get me wrong. Doctors are so, so, so bad for dismissing so many symptoms as just saying, oh, it's probably just anxiety. I'm not disagreeing with that at all. But I also think that there's like this public perception of anxiety being just something in your head and not recognizing the connection between your head and your body. It's a huge, huge, huge, huge. impact and it's all to do with your nervous system you know like anxiety does activate that part of your nervous system that is like fights or flight yeah and when you go out for a run you are like releasing that you go out for a run and you're putting yourself in fight or flight intentionally and then you stop and it's like that release where your body just almost has permission to like calm down
Starting point is 00:13:54 decompress decompress it's so interesting how people have the understanding around a child Like you will literally look at child and you'll be like you need to go get that energy out, but they don't relate that to themselves and their bodies, which is so strange. So it sounds like being just a stepmom in general has, correct me if I'm wrong, being quite like a healing experience for you. Both. Both. Traumatizing and healing.
Starting point is 00:14:19 But aside from that, how on earth do you just deal with being someone's like stepmom? you know, out of, almost like out of the blue. It's so hard. I have no idea. I actually, I think about making content about it all the time, but I feel like there's just no right way to. It's the hardest thing I've ever done. It's the thing that isolates me the most, because it's the thing that if you ever voice to your friends and family
Starting point is 00:14:47 that you're struggling with it, the easy answer is to just leave, right? Everyone's just like, well, just don't do it. Like, I don't see why you'd put that stress on yourself. But the thing, the only thing that's helped me cope is run. because not only are you dealing with friends and family being like why you put yourself through it sometimes that little person doesn't want you either because you're not their parent so you're so expendable and especially if you're someone like me who feels like you're expendable on life to everyone anyway like I just I feel like if I didn't I know that's like me I know um
Starting point is 00:15:21 I actually don't know what like running has given me so much purpose I don't I actually don't know before I started my run streak I got on to Amanda. antidepressants and I was really speaking to my partner about why I felt like was it depression or was I just was it just I had like a massive lacking in purpose and I don't know which one it was but there's something about getting up and out for 10 minutes every day that like I don't know what I do without it so it saves me every single day well I think that's another really good point is do not get me wrong doctors are very very very bad for say it's people who are depressed have you tried you know ever
Starting point is 00:15:59 exercising. I think it can obviously come across as very dismissive and I don't think that going out for a run is an option for a lot of people. But there's such strong evidence about, say, the reduction in depressive symptoms in people who exercise versus people who take antidepressants. And there is evidence that exercise can be just as, if not more effective than antidepressants. Yeah. Or in conjunction, So if you use exercise and antidepressants, it can be even more effective. So I'm not dismissing antidepressants is not useful at all. But I think there is science to back everything you're saying. Yeah, but I do agree with what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And also as like an air quotes fitness creator, you have to be so careful about creating content that we've all seen those videos that call exercise therapy, right? And I personally am very careful around that language because it's a combination of things. And for me, it's not necessary. Like, obviously I use phrases like, get out my head and into my body and, like, never trust a negative thought you've had indoors. And that's all, they're all great because they're quick and you understand the point. But ultimately, it's giving myself some purpose. It's, like, focusing on myself and bring myself back to reality for 10 minutes a day.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Like, you've, like, changing your environment and focusing on you. Like, it's not just about, like, it's a combination of things for sure. And I think, like, the internet can be very ablest sometimes. And you've got to be very careful of that. But, yeah. What did you think you would be doing? Like, Savannah, like, when you were a child, what did you think your career would look like now? Do you know, like, I think we so, it's actually really sad to think about the fact that, like, I just, I didn't like myself enough to ever think that I never really think beyond this age.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I, I, like, hated who I was as a kid and I just never really thought. I guess maybe somewhere I thought my purpose in life was to potentially be a wife and a mum, but the thought always terrified me. as someone that has always resonated as being maybe not the most mentally well, I thought of being someone's parent and like putting my shit onto a child has always really scared me. So I guess I just didn't, like, I'm not someone that was really, has ever been excited to have like kids or be married because I just never really saw any future for myself, let alone this. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:19 And then what was like the turning point where you did see a future for yourself? Um, I guess more the everyday now. Like now that I've somehow I've got really lucky with my corner of the internet. Like I have a really nice common section and my DMs are so nice. I think like people, somehow my audience seem to know that I need the content support. So they give me so much every day. Yeah. Like I think it's still happening.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I think that's it's probably not that they know that you need that support. It's probably because they're reciprocating. what they get from you where they get they resonate so much with you or like the way that i came up to you in the restaurant and was like you know like that video literally was like exactly what i needed to see at that time so it's it's probably them just trying to give back to you in the way that you've given to them maybe oh you'll probably think this as well but you know how like everyone has this really negative idea of what influences are yeah but like we put content out because we want a conversation with people.
Starting point is 00:19:30 So whenever someone approaches you in your life or says something about your video or like is really kind to you or like you don't know that I actually really needed that. And like that's actually, I'm so glad that you had that conversation with me today. And that's kind of like I put out of so many stories of just like what I'm thinking and what I'm feeling. And the point is actually to be relatable and create a conversation with the people that follow you. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:48 Like I actually do want to be your friend. But that's, I feel that that's not what every creator's. aim is, you know? I have a quote from you. Okay. That is somewhere. I don't know what bullshit I'm out with. So you've said,
Starting point is 00:20:12 a large following means nothing if brands won't pay you because you're doing more damage to your audience than good. What do you think are some harmful messages that you've seen on social media recently? Or what do you think, like, darker side of I mean I'm sure we're all on skinny talk right now I'm sure we're like life seems a bit ozempicky right now it's a bit scary
Starting point is 00:20:36 yeah yeah I'm like when everyone just like eat a normal meal that isn't like a PCOS anti-cortis or something I'm like what the fuck we're doing why can't we just fuel ourselves that's fucking terrifying and you know what actually I've just come back off a PR trip and it was the best time but sometimes when you're like okay
Starting point is 00:20:55 firstly I want to be clear there there are twats in every industry I don't think influences are innately bad. I think I've met plenty of people in every industry that I don't like. Oh, absolutely. It's not influences specific. And also it's just that the people, it's just that the people who are not very nice people are in public. Yeah, you'll see in it.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah. Exactly. But I actually just went on a trip, which is incredible. But I don't often get invited on beauty trips. It's like I've made a really big effort. Like today, it's a massive deal. Like, this first podcast, to be like the first guest on it. And I was like, speaking to my partner, I was like, I'm actually going to wash my hair.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I'm going to wear some lips. I'm going to make, because we're going to watch this forever. Like, there's a massive memory. But I'm not this. You know me. Like, I don't really, I wear the same gym gear five days in her own. I don't really care about looking nice. It's not really a part of my personality I care about.
Starting point is 00:21:46 You always look gorgeous. You know what I mean. Like, it's not something that I really care about or like put much value to. So to go on this trip where like, all the other creators were very aesthetically focused. I really struggled with it because I was the messy one of the group. And my boyfriend had to keep calling me and checking in. He kept having to be like, no, you are beautiful in your own way.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Like you need to stop comparing yourself. It's the message you preach and you're in it right now. And this is where you need to practice what you preach. And it is so hard. It is really hard because we do live in a world where people still correlate. healthy beauty. Let's talk a little bit about A ZemPEC because I think
Starting point is 00:22:34 so I was so, so, so shocked when, like last year, the amount of girls who were a healthy weight coming in because they were just vomiting and they were coming into hospital because of the side effects of taking OZemPEC and they were getting it off
Starting point is 00:22:54 like the black market and you see it, there's like nail salons that are selling Ozempic. To these girls who they don't, they're not the target market. They're not the people who, there's some really like incredible research coming out about ZemPEC. I think it's a really,
Starting point is 00:23:14 really powerful medical, you know, revelation because there are a lot of people who struggled to lose weight and that is, like, as someone who has, who's been able to, I was virgin on obese and I really, really, really struggled to lose weight. I think it's so helpful for a cohort of people and can be helpful if used safely. I agree. But the way it is being abused is like it's, it's terrifying and you're giving it, I think it also shows that we might have thought that our diet culture, our body image issues as women societally have got better
Starting point is 00:24:01 since the 90s, the awful era of the 90s. But I think the way that people are jumping on Ozempic shows that we haven't really. I don't know, did we ever think that? Did you never really think good? I mean, like some of the stuff you see about the Cape Mossey stuff, you know. Yeah, but we just, we always jump from trend to trend. Like, I feel like, I don't know. Also, do you know what scares me at the moment? We think it's just like influences online and like we're young women, but like I feel like I could name the amount of my friend's mums that are taking it to state.
Starting point is 00:24:36 One of the small. One of my close, close friends from school is taking it from. And she's got a close friend who is a doctor. And she is taking it from the, off the black market. despite what I have said and that is like a normal girl who is a healthy weight
Starting point is 00:24:59 and it's like it's so terrifying I have a friend I have maybe three or four friends that are taking it that are very athletic looking already they are taking it to quieten the noise
Starting point is 00:25:14 like the food noise so which I actually I mean I experience food noise so like Again, I don't have much judgment here of just like sadness for them that they feel the need to lean on it in that way. But I have a lot of friends that will force feed themselves meals because they understand they need like a certain physique. They don't want people to notice them lose the weight that much.
Starting point is 00:25:41 But they just they take it solely to, yeah, quiet in that voice in their head that just screams at you constantly need to eat more, eat less or eat more. But then I'm like, what do you even know what you're doing to your body long term? Like, do we know? Are we hearing the bigger problem here? No? Well, I think, because I had quite, like, bad binge eating. Like, that was what was the root of my struggles with my weight. But I think there was a couple of things that really, like, worked for me in terms of,
Starting point is 00:26:12 you have to do, like, the internal work with the food noise. Like, they're learning how to eat intuitively, learning how to... like tune into your hunger cues again, also recognising what is triggering it, because for me it would be something bad would happen. And I was a big, big, big, big comfort eater. And it was easier for me to just eat and not like address my feelings and sit with those feelings. And I think the issue is, is you, those issues still exist. If you've quietened the food noise, there's still the mental.
Starting point is 00:26:45 That conversation in your head, yeah. Yeah, there's, you haven't addressed the root, the root cause. actually really glad that you said that because I think the thing that has helped me the most because I was the same. Even up till the first, even until I first met Steve, Steve was my partner was someone that really helped me address it. Something that's really helped me deal with food noise is just acknowledging that it might always be there. Like I think sometimes I look at people that seem to be healed and that's always just made me feel like a piece of shit, but actually having a discussion with them around them still having those thoughts sometimes just makes me feel more normal and
Starting point is 00:27:18 makes me feel okay with still processing those feelings sometimes. I don't think it ever goes away. I don't think it ever goes away. I think the thing is, is if we look at when, like when was the first time you think you felt like insecure in your own body? From, this is the thing. Like, we've been taught to hate ourselves forever and now we're just expected to love up. Like, what?
Starting point is 00:27:40 Like, I've hated myself since I was seven. Yeah, so I remember the first time I told my mom I was going on a diet and I was nine. Yeah. And I think that that is like such a formative age for our brain. Yeah. A lot, like our brains are so much more malleable and, you know, impressionable when we are that age than they are now. It's a lot harder. It's not impossible, but it's a lot harder to change our brains now.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Yeah. So I don't think those feelings ever go away. And I think you're completely right. I think when you accept that those issues will probably always be there, but you just learn how to manage them. and you learn like the tactics. You also learn how to be fulfilled elsewhere. So I think that's what it. You just learn that it's not as important as you.
Starting point is 00:28:25 100%. And I think that what I found really good is when I'm in a flow state and when I'm at work, I'm preoccupied doing something like I'm passionate about. I don't have time to be thinking to have like that food noise or to have like, oh, like what am I? Think about like my weight. you know, things like that. I'm filling my brain with more important stuff. But that's it
Starting point is 00:28:51 more important is so key that even literally like the trip that I was just on that like my partner had to call me and be like, Savannah, you are beautiful in your own way. I was really disappointed myself because normally I'm so busy and so fulfilled elsewhere that that's why it's not important to me. Like I actually just don't really think it's the way you look just isn't important. Like I just don't think it's a valuable thing to care about really. Yeah. Yeah. I think it takes up space. I think it takes up space. We all have a finite amount of energy. We're not all limitless pots of brainpower. And when you spend brain power on thinking about how you look, you take brain power away from other things. Like the impact you want to make on the world,
Starting point is 00:29:31 the messaging you want to put out there. Yeah. No, I actually recently spiraled with Savannah. Yeah, I spiraled to Savannah because I was like when I quit my job, I'm not going to have that going to work and be busy. And I am actually really, really, really worried about having more brain space and having to be quite intentional with filling that extra brain space with relaxing, recuperating and not those issues from the past just raising their ugly head. But that's just it. You will be so intentional.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I have been so intentional with filling that time and space. And like now I know just not put myself in environments like I did last week. Like I know to, you will just be more intentional with it. it's so good that you're aware of that and thinking about that now. And I think there's a lot of people who aren't. I think that's such an important lesson. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Being aware of what is triggering you, what is making you, what is bringing up those issues that you've worked hard to not address, whether that's people, whether that's content, social media, like people you follow.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Exactly. You know? I think a big thing as well, like over the last few years for me has been just accepting my genetics. Like just, Just being like, like, obviously like body positivity, body acceptance, what all of that, that like buzzword language, whatever,
Starting point is 00:30:53 it can be a little bit toxic online, but actually just like you are. You can't change it. What are you going to do waste time crying about it? You can't like tough, like you can't change it. You are what you are. Yeah. I just put that time and effort into all the wonderful things that you are capable of doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yeah. Yeah. You're more, you're more than how you look. Yeah. Cringy, but true. Yeah. You're all shit. Do something with it.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah. That's not to say that you can't make an effort with your appearance or, you know. Yeah, and that's not to say that for some people, the way they look is, like, I have a friend, for example, that's a model. And since she's been a model since before pre 10 years old, right? And she was telling me that, like, being beautiful is the biggest thing about her personality. And she's like, it's all I've ever been prayed for, it's all I've ever got work for. And I was like, well, that's great for you. And I, but that's not my truth.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Like, and I think that's okay. We have different truths. But then I wonder how that will manifest in 20 years' time when we live in a society where women's beauty often isn't recognised. Yeah, like isn't recognised as much as they age, which is so bullshit, you know. Yeah. I found that when, so I was like a normal way
Starting point is 00:32:08 and then went through a bit of a tough time and then had my binge eating and then, you know, my like I do think BMI has faults but my BMI was I was like virgin on obese and I think before that point
Starting point is 00:32:24 I had defined myself so much by like being externally validated appearance wise and then to then being conventionally not attractive was quite like
Starting point is 00:32:37 it was quite yeah it really shook me and really made me question like how I was getting like my validation you know It's just something we're just constantly going to be fighting. Even like what I see it in my content, when I had hair extensions a few months ago,
Starting point is 00:32:52 when I had hair extensions and lip filler, the engagement and the money started rolling in and it's being aware of the impact that can have on you as a person. Like I think it's just the world we live in. And it's so scary to see, it's weird because people on the internet are saying both. They're saying like, you're creating these unrealistic beauty standards
Starting point is 00:33:12 whilst they support them. But I think you just have to. to try and focus on. I think it's like recognising the world is you can't change the world overnight. You can change it bit by bit, but it's also focusing inwards and thinking about how you can build up coping strategies to live and exist in this world that is very, very, very, very flawed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Yeah. Like we live in a world that will be like, you're too focused on the way you look, but that same person will comment body tea. Like you little. Right, talking about body image and self-worth. So, okay, so we've got some community questions, basically, kind of about running. Okay. So community question is I'd love to know how she fuels herself and what she does to avoid injury.
Starting point is 00:34:06 We're all told, we're all told to have rest days. So how does she factor this in and avoid injuries, strains by running every day? I actually just don't have meal times. I eat when I want to eat. So something that I've stopped doing is like, I used to see what my boyfriend was putting on his plate and my brother was putting on that plate and we'd just try and eat a little bit less than them
Starting point is 00:34:25 at the same times as them. But now I just, whether I have four meals a day, seven meals a day, the minute I feel like a little hunger pang, I'll just eat whatever feels right for me. And it means I also, because I had the same, I was a little bit of a bingit eater when I was younger. Well, actually, you know, quite badly. I really struggled with it when I was at school.
Starting point is 00:34:41 and I mean I don't know if I think the word intuitively eating is bullshit coming from an influencer that has nothing but to manage the way they eat but I just pretty much honour my hunger cues yeah yeah but I think as women we're taught to ignore them for so long I think getting more in tune with them is like so so important um the well what about um recovery yeah recovering um Um, recovery for everyone is so different, obviously. So something that I think people don't recognize when they ask me that question is that they're walking to work every day. They're sitting on their feet all day. They, our parents have very, very physical jobs. I sit in my room and edit videos all day. Like I don't do fucking anything. So me going for, and I'm saying very
Starting point is 00:35:30 slow by my standards, okay, like by my, by what Savannah is capable of doing. Um, I do a very, very slow, joggy walk mile when I feel like I need recovery. And for me, I've done, so I've run every day for just over four years. How many days is that? Like 15,600. Like about that, I think. But you've got to think about the fact that your body acclimatizes. So like now that's, now it feels like brushing my teeth. Now it's, now my body feels like kind of gross if I don't do it. Because I kind of taught my body to be at that level of fitness. So now my active recovery, my, is very different to what it was four or five years ago. So now I need a lot less sedentary recovery than I used to. Do you know what I mean? Everyone's at recovery is so different. Like, um, but I, I do take recovery. I probably take
Starting point is 00:36:15 recovery two or three days a week. And also, I don't give a crap about running fast at all. Like I go for jogs. I don't go. This is the thing. I think people hear the word run and they think, oh, I should really pushing herself. I go for these like jogs to get out of my head and into my body. So I'm never really pushing myself to the point of having doms. Yeah, yeah. So, but like a kid will go play it in the playground every day, right? You would be like you're going to take a recovery day. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that we've got so used to live in this sedentary lifestyle, but we don't recognize that, yeah, if we were many, many, many, many moons ago, thousands of years ago, we had to be active because we had to go get food every day. We had to forage or hunt or, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:55 So yeah, if you run for 10 minutes a day, but it's at a slower pace, that's, it's an active rest day. Exactly. And to caveat that, that. When we ran the marathon this year, I had just finished my like orthopedics, like, placement. And one of the girls who was working on the day of the marathon said she had, like, I think something ridiculous, like a ridiculous number of women under the age of 30 who came in with broken hips at the London Marathon. Yeah. And that is directly due to, it's a lot of the time, it's very slim women who have been training for this marathon. who haven't been fuel, who don't know how to fuel themselves properly,
Starting point is 00:37:38 haven't been fueling themselves properly. So I think that, and then their bones become so weak that they break at an age that your bones should not be breaking at that age. So I think that is a really big issue with people, especially if you're new to running, not resting, not knowing how to fuel, and, you know, recognising that it is completely different for you. but when we ran the marathon, I literally, for the next three days, I was like hobbling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah. And then my consultant who literally like runs ultramarathons in his sleep, she ran 150 kilometres. The next day was in work and not even limping. So I think you're completely right. You're climatized. Your fitness climatizers, yeah. And you have to listen to your body. 100%.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Also like, it's something that I have to get used to and fight every day. but people are always comment. Again, I speak to my partner about why I take this. So why sometimes I'm a bit like, should you have said that? But people will always comment on how much I eat. People will be like, oh, you're being greedy. Or like, are you going to get another plate?
Starting point is 00:38:47 And I actually joke because now I'm like, no, I do need fuel. I run a fucking lot. But it's firstly, it shouldn't bother me. Like, why do I take that personally? Why do people feel the need to comment? But like, if you saw the amount of meals that I eat and how I consume food. Like, no one ever conquered the world on an empty stomach.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And so, so, snap shake. So, so true, right? Yeah. Also, like, the body ideals that you are relating to being healthy are not. They just aren't. Like, what you consider a runner to be is not the truth. That's really interesting. So how do you manage with on-runner social media,
Starting point is 00:39:29 on running social media, the emphasis that is placed on... The way you look. Well, the way you look, times, like, that comparison side of running social media and fitness social media. Honestly, I'm a little bit older. Like, I think because I'm 31, I'm literally just like, if I was 10 years younger, I'd probably...
Starting point is 00:39:49 No, that's not true. I just... Grow up. You are an adult. You know that that's not realistic for you. Yeah. Like not so, I'm sorry to give you tough love, but like, you don't need the newest outfit to run. You don't need to look like everyone else.
Starting point is 00:40:06 You don't need to run the same pace as everyone else. You know to be proud of yourself that you went for a 20 minute jog today. And you're comparing yourself to something that you know is unrealistic and someone that you know has nothing but someone that you know has nothing but time. That's when you, you need to. Own that. Yeah. And that's something that I did. Like, I used to take offence to it.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Of course I did. But now, like, I'm just like, be realistic. I'm a literal fucking parent. I run multiple businesses. I have a partner and a family that I want to keep happy. Like, no, I don't give a crap about a running speed. Like, and it's funny because sometimes people messaging, this is very rarely because my corner of the internet is so nice.
Starting point is 00:40:38 But sometimes I get messages from people being like, you're so slow for a running infanter. How did you get your platform that's so dumb? I'm like, that's why. Like, it's being a normal person and like balancing all of these plates that probably makes my content a little bit more comfortable to watch. I think also it makes me really sad that running, the benefit of running is the performance times. And the benefit of running is that you just need a pair of trainers and you can just go outside.
Starting point is 00:41:03 You don't need a gym membership. The barrier for entry is so low. And I think sometimes with social media, it can make the barrier for entry seem higher. Like you, to be a runner, you have to be running at a certain pace. And that's really, really, like, I think that's quite that's sad. I think also I was really careful about the brand. I'm really careful about, obviously people will have to understand. that this is my job, this is how I make money, right?
Starting point is 00:41:29 But I'm very specific and choice about the brandles I do around running because we don't want to make this sport inaccessible. So obviously there was a time where dating apps and stuff were getting involved and they were paying a good chunk of cash to get you to host run clubs. And I had to really think about my messaging there because like if you think you look good running, you probably went to a school or have a skin color where. like a very specific skin color and I'm like, I don't want to make running
Starting point is 00:42:02 even more inaccessible so I'm probably not going to do that brand all that encourages people to date a run club because it's only a very specific kind of person that is in the kind of shape that probably wants to be looked at when they're running. Do you know what I mean? It actually did, it didn't, we did go through a phase where running seemed very elite.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Like there was only a certain kind of person that could do it and that kind of person would also want to date at a run club. That's not really my message and that's actually. kind of bullshit. Like I fully agree with just looking like a little gremlin when you're running. That really neatly brings me on to one of the community questions that has been sent on, sent in specifically for you. So this is really, it made me really sad. I want to start running, but I find fitness related activities in public quite scary as I feel self-conscious. I tried at-home workouts, but I would always come up with excuses and have no accountability
Starting point is 00:42:53 to keep going. As someone who was trying to start running by herself, what would you recommend to overcome this fear of starting a new hobby related to fitness when I struggled to stay accountable to. What's disgusting goosebumps? Firstly, we've all been there. Like everyone had to start at the beginning. Everyone has sucked. What a privilege to get to get better at something, you know? I've been there.
Starting point is 00:43:15 When I first started running, I was out the door. It started as me going for like five, six, seven minute jogs every day. Go for time, not distance, definitely. Don't put the pressure of like a 5K is a fucking long way. go out for five or ten minutes initially and build up stamina there and every week if you can add on a minute add on a couple something also really really like to remind myself is no one knows how far you've gone so like you could be jogging next to someone
Starting point is 00:43:41 they don't know if you run one kilometer or 37 like they don't know where you're at also when was the last time someone jogged past you and you judged them like I personally cannot remember a single person that's jogged past me and I've thought anything negative about them slow to fuck down who you racing is a really good one. I went on a run with Savannah and Savannah was like slow down. You can't, you shouldn't stop trying to, you know, you're not in a rush. Like we can just, and we, we did the whole entire run like a chatty pace.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Yeah. It's supposed to be like, I mean, movement is such privilege, right? Like why would you not make it as enjoyable as possible? Slow down, buy yourself a little treat at the end. Give yourself a reward if you do it for three times that week. Like turn it into a game. Like when I remember when I felt like, I'd run to a tree, then walk to the next one, then run to a tree, then walk to the next one.
Starting point is 00:44:31 It can be whatever you want it to be. Just make it as enjoyable as possible. And remember that, like, yeah, everyone looked silly when they started. That is probably a reminder to me. I should post more pictures after I've run because I get so red. I literally look like a full tomato. And that is how you don't look, you don't look like you're on the cover of runners' world, you know, where they've done your hair, they've done your makeup
Starting point is 00:44:57 and they've just, you've pretended to run. Like those people haven't actually just finished a run, you know? Yeah. You don't... Just look perfect. No, you're running, you look sweaty and gross and red. You look like you've just been for a run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:12 That's okay. Yeah, yeah. It's interesting as well you say like 5K is a long way because the amount of people when, and you probably get it all the time, people saying, I could never run a marathon and I had to say
Starting point is 00:45:26 to say to people you absolutely could because the January before the marathon myself and my boyfriend went for a 7K and I was stopping to walk because I was out of breath every kilometre without fail
Starting point is 00:45:40 I was like I need to stop and I need to walk and then four months later did the marathon like 5K is a long way when you see the beauty of running is you do actually get much better
Starting point is 00:45:53 with consistency and you you see that and you feel so proud. But it's not easy. If you have to stop and walk every, you know, minute even, run to the next tree, run and walk, that is like completely normal. It's still a run just because you have to walk. Also, I think it's really interesting how, like, people will invest in a tennis coach. Like, you'll go to a tennis test and be like, I'm shit. You won't take that person.
Starting point is 00:46:15 You'll just invest in a tennis coach and you'll keep practicing until you get better, right? Running is the same. Yeah. Like, you just have to practice it, but you will get better. Yeah. It is fully a skill that you just need to practice. I'm going to share Savannah's rogue. This is so good.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Would you like to share? Because when I was training for the marathon, I'd never run distances as long as what I had to run. And when you're marathon training, you do like, you end up doing like four half marathons. You know, you do a 32K run. You do like a 20-somethingk run. And my biggest thing was boredom.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah. Savannah gave me a great tip. Yeah. For the boredom that I have not actually tried out, but I would like her to share. It's a really good tip. Also, one of my, I have loads of running mantras. One of them is I've chanced myself, you're not tired, you're not bored, you're not tired, you're not tired, you're just bored. You're not tired.
Starting point is 00:47:10 You're just bored. And it's actually so true. But the running hack, my friend, running hat, my friend, the running hack, my friends, is to listen to porn or, or. or there's like audio books right that are like the funest sexy stories or just listen to like an actual book like Akatar or something that's like a little more sexually focused because they I basically wouldn't let myself I listen to audio books a lot I wouldn't let myself listen to Akatar unless I was running so then I got to a point where I was like well I really want to hear the rest of this book so I would be excited to go out for a run the next day because I really wanted to hear the rest of that story or like just go have a good time. but I really recommend it that's um that's yeah
Starting point is 00:47:56 that's I haven't tried it but if I do I will let you know close to um that reminds me of a hack
Starting point is 00:48:03 well of a habit that I have is if Love Island's on I only let myself watch Love Island if I'm gonna if I'm cleaning my flat but it's you make it you pair something
Starting point is 00:48:12 you don't want to do with something you want to do like no one like it's really hard to enjoy running it is hard to enjoy it boring as fuck yeah like the especially when you're
Starting point is 00:48:21 in the beginning when you're not that good. Of course. You know, you have to incentivise yourself or you get a croissant at the end. Exactly. Make it as enjoyable as you possibly can or you're just setting yourself up for failure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Yeah, and porn is a good way to do that. I can't. And it was the most unhinged. And like, we went for a run after, I had a night shift and then we went for a run afterwards. So I was like sleep deprived. And when I'm sleep deprived
Starting point is 00:48:43 after a night shift, it does feel like I'm intoxicated. It literally feels like I'm drunk. So I'm like semi-drunk. Like, so why. I died running with Savannah and Savannah is telling me this. And I'm like, this is so like, I'm so waved. Is this real life?
Starting point is 00:49:01 Yeah, is this real life? Yeah, I do. I'll send you some links. A little bit of, you know, edgier conversation. Esther's just text me. She just sexed me. Do you want to hear about her body image impacted her confidence in sex, which I was just about to come on to,
Starting point is 00:49:21 Great minds think alike, Esther, great minds think alike. Neat, neat segue. Very neat segue. You've said that your sex life definitely improved, not because of the impact running has had on your body physically, but because you're so proud of yourself. The fact that I keep showing up and getting better at running has given me a confidence that has translated to me being more self-assured
Starting point is 00:49:44 in asking for what I want in the bedroom. For sure. How did running reframe your sense of ownership? Or tell us more about that. I feel like I just have like a, first day I have a better understanding of my body now. I sit in it and actually am a lot more present in it than I ever have been because I have to respond to how I feel every day to decide how I'm going to run. So I actually think about my body a lot more than I ever have.
Starting point is 00:50:17 I feel more physically proud of my body and what I put it through. which means I feel sexier. I also am someone that has always had a really hard time speaking up for myself. To the extent that I'd say that I can be a bit of a liar in the sense that I will tell you what I think you need to hear as opposed to my truth, which is something I'm really actively working on. I'm really lucky my partner can spot it a mile off and he'll be like, no, no, tell me what you actually want.
Starting point is 00:50:49 But running's really helped with that because giving myself. that rule of I have to go out for 10 minutes a day has meant that now I'll say like no to friends or no to my family or no to Steve because I need to get my run in. So it's made me speak up in a way that I haven't really done before. So it's kind of taught me to be a lot more honest in my needs, which I've, yeah, I've never really been like that. But like it has massively impacted my sex life for sure. Yeah. It's so empowering. I think as and also as women, like you're taught that it shifts your perception of your body as well. Oh, for sure. Like your body is. not this passive thing that should be made to be smaller,
Starting point is 00:51:23 should be made to fit a certain, you know, stereotype. You show yourself that your body is capable of like these incredible things. And that is like so empowering. Oh, 100%. Also like I feel so grim, but not even that grim, but when you're eating, when you're eating to fuel yourself, like you make food choices that are maybe going to sit on your stomach better, which means that you're going to digest better,
Starting point is 00:51:50 which means your pooping schedule is probably going to be better. All of it relates. And if you're sitting more comfortably in your body, you are just going to feel sexy. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It's not about the way you look. It's about the way you feel.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Well, I mean, it can be about the way you look. But for me, it's about, like, actually digesting eating things that make my body feel good because I want to run tomorrow, which means I'm probably going to look great. Okay. I think also something that's way to ignore is the relationship between, like, sex and your nervous system.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Yes. And the incredible effects that running has on your nervous system, on the regulation of your nervous system, because there's so much bullshit you see about running is bad for your cortisol. Running is bad for your nervous system. Have you seen runners waste at the moment? Like runners face on TikTok. I'm like, what are these?
Starting point is 00:52:37 Oh. Like, yeah, anyway. But that's, I just, it's stupid because it's like the whole anxiety thing. You go for a run. You go for a run. run and that helps with your anxiety. It calms down your nervous system and you can't get like in the mood unless your nervous system is calm. Unless you're present. Yeah. That is that is biological. You know, it's physiological. Exactly. So being able to keep your nervous system calm also has like benefits,
Starting point is 00:53:06 which is great. It's fully like the only time I'm ever present and actually thinking about my body. A hundred percent. Yeah. It's a medicine. It's a form of meditation I find running. Oh, absolutely. I actually I keep trying to do yoga too and I just can't I'm sure it works really well but it's something I really can't do but running actually or jogging really really really works in the way that I imagine yoga should yeah it's with different strokes for different folks yeah exactly yeah for sure and I think also on that note it might not work for you and that's fine that's also fine yeah but that's trends come and go in terms of exercise but I think if you like now is running is huge but like if you
Starting point is 00:53:45 If you enjoy weights. Do that. Do that. But I think movements keep, but like whatever it is you want to do. So, as the first guest, I really want to ask this question on every podcast, so you're going to be the first one who is answering.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Okay. Savannah. Miss Faye. What do you wish every woman knew by the age of 25? that nothing you're going through is embarrassing. Nothing about you is embarrassing or gross. Everyone has been through it. The more open you can be,
Starting point is 00:54:27 the more you can create discussions around the things that you're nervous around, the more you're actually helping people around you. And that's very much what I would like my space of the internet to be. I just want to like normalise what we've previously going to be embarrassing. Like everything is so normal and everything that you, are everything that makes you special and makes you different from other people is probably also going to feel a little bit embarrassing. So just be you lean into your uniqueness that is completely spectacular. Yeah? We need more of you like you're wonderful as you are. I love that so
Starting point is 00:55:04 much. I know I think that was the perfect first answer. Thank you so so so much. Are you kidding? That was so fun. Thank you for having me.

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