Here's Where It Gets Interesting - Rhode Island: The Bravest Woman in America with Taylor Wolfe

Episode Date: January 21, 2022

In this episode, Sharon sits down with Taylor Wolfe, comedian and lover of wigs, to talk about Rhode Island’s most famous lighthouse keeper, Ida Lewis. A strong swimmer and rower, even as a petite w...oman, Idawalley Zoradia Lewis faithfully kept the lamp lit at Lime Rock Light Station and rescued as many as 36 people from drowning during her lifetime. These feats of heroism catapulted her to nationwide fame in the mid-1800s and even led to a visit from President Ulysses S. Grant. Ida was sixteen when she made her first rescue, and sixty-three when she made her final rescue, earning the title of the bravest woman in America. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, hello. Welcome to this episode. I am so excited to share this with you because it has been a long time in the making. I am here today with my friend Taylor Wolfe. You maybe follow her on Instagram at The Daily Tay. Her impressions of influencers are beyond hilarious. If you've spent any time on social media and you know about influencer culture, you will think she is spot on. She even does an impression of me and has like a Sharon wig. It's, I love it. Let's dive into this episode, which is about Rhode Island and about somebody incredibly interesting. And with my incredibly interesting guest, Taylor Wolf.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I'm Sharon McMahon and welcome to the Sharon Says So podcast. Taylor, it's finally happening. It's happening. You're finally here. We've been working on this for literal months, and you're here today. Yay. I debated coming dressed up as you, but then I didn't know if that would be weird or not, but you kind of dressed as me. You kind of are wearing a sweater that I would wear. I need the earrings though. I have to take my earrings off when I'm doing podcasts because they make sound in my headphones. Um, but you're missing the earrings that come on now and glasses.
Starting point is 00:01:23 I'm not wearing glasses either. I absolutely love your Instagram account. I have been following you for over a year and just literally randomly found you one day and laughed and laughed and laughed at your content. And I love how you poke fun at influencer culture. It makes me laugh daily. Well, thank you. You know, it's been my job to be, I just don't like the term influencer, obviously. Yeah. But, um, I always try to poke fun at it very lightly because I am fully doing it. Like this is also my job, but I've, I've never had a job that I can't make fun of, to be completely honest. This one is just a really easy one to do. A hundred percent. Like what kind of sense of
Starting point is 00:02:05 humor do you have? If you can't make fun of yourself or you can't make fun of your own profession, right? Like lawyers should think lawyer humor is funny. Influencers should like influencer humor. Like we should. Yeah, they do. Yes. It's very funny. Your take on it is hilarious. And I love your different characters. You're naturally very good at sketch comedy. Well, thank you. I really appreciate that. Cause I did improv for quite a few years and I wasn't very good at that. No, I was terrible. Like all my friends went on and got booked and I was like, wow, I'm, I'm not good at this. So then I came to Instagram. But see, that's the beauty. You can have your own version of sketch comedy where you're like,
Starting point is 00:02:44 that wasn't the funniest take. Let me do it a different way. That's more funny. While I'm sitting in my room. I love it. And I have a story I want to share with you today that is completely unrelated to influencer culture or influencer humor. It is just one of those stories where I'm like, dang, that is good stuff. That's how I feel about this story. So I can't wait. I'm excited. Have you ever been to Rhode Island?
Starting point is 00:03:11 I have not. I know you and your husband and your darling baby birdie, like you guys sleep in a van sometimes for fun. We have done that a few times. That is all Chris. And I am a supportive spouse. So I go along because I, I get wine at five or six and no, it is a lot of fun. It's a lot of work, but we do sleep in vans sometimes. That's correct. You sleep in a van with a baby and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:03:42 dang girl, hats off to you, man. Hats off to you, woman. I went camping with a child precisely one time, precisely one time. And that never happened again. It's not for everyone. No, I, I really, like, I liked my children to be like, it's your bedtime now and good night. And then being able to walk away and that is not that doesn't happen with a baby and camping no we walk to like the front of the van and then put our earbuds in and watch a movie thinking quiet but well good for you I have I do have a story about somebody from Rhode Island who lived in similarly challenging conditions,
Starting point is 00:04:25 wasn't a fan, but it was a lighthouse. First of all, do you know that Rhode Island isn't really an island? I do. Yes. Okay. A lot of Americans don't. They think it's an island. And then the last time I mentioned this, people were like, why is it called an island then if it's not really an island? Fair question. Yeah, it's not an island. And it comes from the Dutch explorer who initially landed on what is now Rhode Island. And he called it in Dutch, he called it Root Island, which meant red island in reference to the shoreline, which is like red clay. And apparently at the time he did, his name was Adrian Block. Apparently at the time he didn't realize that he wasn't landing on an island,
Starting point is 00:05:18 but that place name had already been established. And so we call it Rhode Island. Like Rhode Island is an Anglicization. Is that a word? Anglicanization? I was hoping you'd explain what that word means. I don't know. Anglicized. The name was Anglicized, meaning we translated it to English. We're going to go with Anglicized. All right. Okay. All right. Yep. We're going with that. It's not an island, but Rhode Island does have an incredibly craggy shoreline. The shoreline of Rhode Island is over 400 miles long, even though the state itself is
Starting point is 00:06:03 only 48 miles long. It's kind of like when you have, um, when something is corrugated, think about like corrugated cardboard, where there's a lot of like ins and outs and ridges and it goes, the shoreline goes like this. So if you measure the entire distance of the shoreline, it equals 400 miles. But if you were just to drive in a straight line across, it would only be 48 miles. Oh, okay. It's the smallest state, obviously. And one of the things I've always wondered about, and we're not going to get into this today is like, but why did we draw the state borders so tiny? You know what I mean? Like when other states are so vast, Like when other states are so vast, why did we make, why is that one is own tiny, like 37 by 48 state?
Starting point is 00:06:48 Why isn't it part of another state? Yeah. Rhode Island though, it has a very, very long history with pirates, with battles, with whaling. It has over 17 ports and harbors and 21 lighthouses, just in like the tiniest state. So starting in the mid 1800s, Rhode Island put a lighthouse on a small island offshore. And the island offshore, like in the Atlantic ocean was about 300 yards offshore. So in order to get out there, it was called the lime rock light station. In order to get out there, you had
Starting point is 00:07:35 to literally just row a boat, row a boat to the lighthouse. And they initially were like, but what if the weather is really bad and the lighthouse keeper can't get back to shore? What will we do? So they decided to put a small like shanty on the island next to the lighthouse, just in case the lighthouse keeper couldn't make it back because the weather was too terrible. Right. So that was the initial setup. It's like a lighthouse on an Island. And then it's a little shanty, like a one room, like sleep here, if you must kind of scenario on another Island or on that same Island, same Island right next to it. Yep. So that was the initial setup. Then in 1853, Congress appropriated $1,000 and said,
Starting point is 00:08:31 build a better setup here, build something better than just like this little shanty and this little, whatever you guys got going on here, like make it better. I mean, if they thought it was bad back then, it really makes me wonder what, how bad was it? That's right. If it was bad by 1853 standards, you know, it was bad, right? Like if Congress gets involved and they're like, make it better, try harder, try harder. It's $1,000 do what you can. So they decide to make it better and they hire a permanent lighthouse keeper. They hire this man named Hosea Lewis and Hosea was married. He was like a big deal in the Coast Guard. He got this job and moved his second wife, his first wife did, moved his second wife and their children out to this very quaint, small house on an island off the shore of Rhode Island, which is not an island.
Starting point is 00:09:40 So they're living on an island off the shore of Rhode Island, but Rhode Island is not an Island. Okay. Yep. Yep. Within four months, Hosea died. Oh no. So that, that left his wife and their children to run the lighthouse.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Did he die on the Island? Yes. He did. Now this is turning into um, yep. They had a number of children. One of their children was a little girl who was very sickly and disabled. And so his wife had to spend a tremendous amount of her time caring for their disabled daughter. And that left a lot of the lighthouse keeping duties to their other daughter, whose name was Ida, Ida Lewis. And she had an older brother that had died. So the older brother was not able to help. So a lot of the lighthouse keeping duties went to Ida when she was around 12. So that involved like polishing the glass, trimming the wick, lighting the light, making sure that everything was in working order.
Starting point is 00:11:01 It's because lighthouses are depended upon. It's not just for fun. You know what I mean? Like they actually relied on lighthouses. It wasn't optional to keep it going. So her mother and her together sort of took over lighthouse keeping duties. But as time went by and her sister needed more and more care, the duties fell more and more to Ida. So Ida became very well known in her community for being perhaps the best swimmer in the area. She could swim the 300 yards from shore to the lighthouse, which is in the Atlantic Ocean. We're not talking about 300 yards like in the Caribbean floating in the sunshine. This is like a cold, scary ocean, right? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:11:57 That's right. Cold, scary ocean with big waves that people die in all the time. And she comes from a family of death, like as it is, but so she became known as like, dang, that girl can swim. And she also was put in charge of rowing her younger siblings across the water to, to land so they could go to school every day. So she became truly an expert row boater. What are we calling this? Row boat captain?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Row boat user? I'm just imagining how ripped she must be. Right? Like this is not a rowing machine. This is actual massive wooden oars. There are pictures of her doing this. Actual massive wooden oars against a current against the ocean. You know what I mean? Yes. Uh, even younger than that. So they're just the idea of like when you're working out,
Starting point is 00:12:55 right? Can I tell the audience you're rowing right now, as you tell me? That's right. I'm rowing. That's right. But, but when you're working out, like in a gym, using a rowing machine, you can be like, oh, well that's too hard, you know, dial down the resistance. Right. But you don't have that option in the ocean with your actual wooden, wooden oars. You die. That's correct. You will die if you don't get buff enough. So yes, this is like real life CrossFit. Do you do Crossfit oh god no i know there's like probably gonna be crossfit fans who think like gonna get defensive by my response but no it looks way too hard for me like lifting tires
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Starting point is 00:15:17 jump in her boat or she would swim out to save them. So she started developing a reputation for saving people. So for example, when she was about 16, there were some boys that were sailing a small boat, like they were teenage boys sailing a small boat back and forth between land and, and the lime rock lighthouse. And she was watching them from one of the windows. And one of the boys climbed the mast of the sailboat and began to like rock the boat back and forth like this to be funny or to scare his friends. And eventually the boat did capsize and Ida was watching it happen. She like raced down to her rowboat, rode out to them really quickly and got all four of those boys aboard her boat and then rode them back to shore, saved all of their lives.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Did she marry one? No, but in a movie she would. In a movie she definitely would fall in love with one of those boys who would come back to the lighthouse to be like, you saved me. One of the groups that she rescued, first of all, there was like a fort, Fort Adams on the shore. And so there were a lot of military people in the region. And turns out many of the people that needed to be rescued were members of the military who were perhaps too intoxicated and had too much bravado. And we're like, I can make it. Watch me row out to that lighthouse. Watch me swim out there. And then they wouldn't be able to because of the currents and the waves and the temperature of the water, and they would get saved by Ida. So Ida's just always watching the water for people. I guess there's not much to do
Starting point is 00:17:06 on that island. So yeah, that makes sense. True enough. In 1866, there were three soldiers who had been out drinking at the bars and they saw like an old skiff, which is a kind of a flat bottomed boat that is kind of wide and shallow. And it's really not designed to go in deep water or rough water. It's just designed to like move from one point to another near the shore. They see this old skiff and they decide we can do it. Let's get in this boat. It'll be totally fine. And she sees them out there.
Starting point is 00:17:43 She rows her rowboat, which is an appropriate boat for the conditions. And two of the men were saved. One of them ended up drowning, but she literally had to pick one of them up by the hair and drag them into her boat. This is a very petite woman, by the way, she was about five, four and around 110 pounds, very petite woman. This speaks to her buffness that she can drag a drunk waterlogged soldier from the water into her boat. Isn't that crazy? She severely injured herself saving those two soldiers. And it took her, she was in bed for months after that. She obviously did something to mess up a joint
Starting point is 00:18:31 or something while she was trying to drag these all half dead soldiers into her boat. One of her most famous rescues were two members of the military. They hired this 14 year old boy who's claimed to be a very experienced sailor, hired him to help them cross Newport Harbor on this little boat. And then they didn't think to themselves, you know what? The weather is real sketch. We're going to have to try again tomorrow. The weather was really bad. It was a snow storm. And during, I mean, it seems like common sense to be like real snow stormy and really big waters, really big waves. Maybe let's not do that, but they didn't. So these two people in the military and this 14 year old boy set off across the water and she sees them out there and is like, yes, first of all, she was sick. She was sick in bed.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Give Ida a freaking break for the love of God. She was sick. Yeah. She was in bed sick and she sees what's happening, sees that it's a snowstorm and does not even take the time to put on a coat or shoes. She runs down to her boat, jumps into her boat, like in her night clothes, like she's sick in bed, you know, like she's wearing a woman's 1869 nightgown. I know exactly what that is. Yes. Yes. I know exactly what that is. Yes. Yes. And rose across the snow storming water with these massive waves, gets out there, puts the people in her boat, rose them to shore. And this was, this became a very famous incident at the time. People were like, so you're saying that the three men couldn't get
Starting point is 00:20:22 themselves across the water, but Ida, who was sick, could get them across the water. You know, like that makes no sense. Like make it make sense. No, nothing about it does. No, no. So they were so grateful that she saved their lives that they around Fort Adams and collected $218 and a gold watch. And on a clear day, they rode out there and gave her $218 and a gold watch, which was a lot of money for 1869 to say, thank you for saving our lives. And a magazine came to interview Ida because her reputation began to grow of like, who is this woman? By this time, she's a young woman. She has really taken over the duties of running the lighthouse from her mother. And people are like, who is this person who's just saving all of these humans from the water, just rescuing all these humans from the water.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And they said, were you scared? Like when you're out there in this snowstorm? And this was her response. I don't know if I was ever afraid. I just went. And that was all there was to it. That night when the soldiers tipped over their boat, I was just sitting there with my feet in the oven. I had a bad cold, but when I heard those men calling, I started right out just as I was with a towel over my shoulders. And she said, my father showed me how to get people into the boat without it tipping over. I just went, I don't know that I was afraid. Like that has to be some adrenaline. Like that adrenaline just gets going and you don't even think about it. That's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:09 That's going to be my new like inspo quote. I just went like, I'm scared to check emails. Like you can do it. I just went, I don't know that I was afraid. I just went, that's all there was to it. That's what she said. That's all there was to it. it. That's what she said. That's all there was to it. So by the time she was 27, she had achieved like East coast celebrity status. She was in New York newspapers. She was in Harper's weekly,
Starting point is 00:22:37 which was a very big newspaper at the time, like on the cover of Harper's weekly wearing a scarf tied around her shoulders. And people who were subscribers to the magazine, which was a lot, saw the scarf and begin to copy it. And suddenly like the Ida Lewis scarf became like the accessory of the season. Like she was on the cover and everybody else wanted an Ida Lewis scarf to wear as well. They named pieces of music after her. There was an Ida Lewis waltz and there was a polka named after her as well. People started putting her on newspapers and in magazines with the phrase, the bravest woman in America. So her parents or her mother, I should say, began to keep track of the number of people
Starting point is 00:23:27 who began sailing and rowing to the Lime Rock Lighthouse for the express purpose of seeing her because of her fame. One summer, there were between 9,000 and 10,000 people who just landed at the lighthouse with like no appointment, no permission between nine and 10,000 people who were just hoping to like catch a glimpse of her or meet her. And what her mother said, people would land at the rock, prowl around the house, quiz the family, cry into the household affairs, patronizingly ask the age of each person and how They're government employees. It's a government owned lighthouse and they have no privacy when people just show up on the, cause there's nothing else there. Right. Just like their house. My worst nightmare. Yes. 100%. Do you pretend to not be
Starting point is 00:24:39 home when the doorbell rings all the time? Yes. I don't, I don't never answer the door. No, bell rings all the time. Yes. I don't, I don't never answer the door. No, no, uh, unless I know that it's like, Oh, my husband locked himself out or what, you know, like then he's, then you better call me to be like, Hey, I'm outside. Right. Like I'm not going to the door. No, I never answer it. Same. I don't answer the door. I pretend to not be home. This is my worst nightmare. No people just showing up at my house and I have to accept it. Nope. Well, and I wonder, did more of these people start like falling out of their boats? Did it like make more work for Ida? Probably, probably. Although most of it was a during the summer. So perhaps less stormy seas. know a lot of people are idiots so of course of course yes so she started getting deluged with fan mail deluged with gifts deluged with marriage proposals
Starting point is 00:25:34 and in 1869 president ulysses s grant was like like, I got to meet this girl. So he had somebody row him out to the lighthouse, showed up at their door and gets out of the boat. And he like stumbled a little bit and stepped in a few inches of water. And his famous quote from when he landed at the Lime Rock lighthouse was, I have come to see Ida Lewis and to see her, I'd get wet up to my armpits if necessary. Like in that, I, I, this is one of the things that I do regularly that amuses me, which is trying to imagine something from the past happening today. I was just thinking that in today's context. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Okay. Can you imagine? Yeah. Imagine any recent president. It doesn't matter who. Pick one. Pick one from the last 50 years even. And imagine them rowing a boat to a lighthouse and being like, I'd get run up to my armpits if necessary. It truly boggles the mind
Starting point is 00:26:51 to think of Richard Nixon doing that or Bill Clinton, literally any recent president. The idea that you just like row out to a lighthouse and be like, oh shoot, I stumbled, but that's okay. I would get wet up to my armpits if it means I can meet you. Yeah. If that were on social media, it just would not be good. No, no. The vice president Skylar Colfax also separately met her. She was also well-known in women's suffrage circles. People like Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony held her up as this sort of testament to the strength and determination of women. Like women can do anything. And so women should be allowed to vote. Like if they can save all of your drunk soldiers from the water, they should be allowed to vote. Yeah. So she did eventually accept one of the marriage proposals that was given to her.
Starting point is 00:27:50 After she had corresponded with this gentleman, William Wilson, for four years, she finally agreed to get married. And they got married. They moved off of the island and to Connecticut. And everyone ends up in Connecticut. No, but wait, like while they were writing letters. Yes. Yes. They had met each other.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yes. Okay. Yes. She moves to Connecticut and within a couple of years realizes like, I am too unhappy living here. I need to get back to that Island, but she didn't believe in divorce. Divorce was against her religion. So they just permanently separated and she moved back to Lime Rock Island. She went back to caring for the lighthouse. And at that point, this was in the late 1870s. At that point, she had been doing that job for so long, but had never been officially appointed
Starting point is 00:28:57 lighthouse keeper. She was like the unofficial lighthouse keeper out there just saving dozens of people. So eventually one of her admirers, who was a civil war hero, later became like governor of Rhode Island, later became a US Senator. His name was General Burnside, advocated for her to become the official lighthouse keeper, which a woman had never done before. It could be the official lighthouse keeper. And she was also granted an extremely high salary for lighthouse keepers at the time. She was given a salary of $750 a year, which was the highest salary of any lighthouse keeper in the nation because she had saved all of these lives. People in Congress loved her. She earned it basically. When she finally got this title, she got the official title in 1879. So it made her 37. Still pretty dang young. Yes. So yes, she officially became the lighthouse keeper when she was 37 and started getting her
Starting point is 00:30:06 $750 a year, a massive salary, apparently according to what everybody else was making at the time. And from the United States government, she was awarded the gold life-saving medal, the first woman to ever get the gold life-saving medal. And apparently it's very rare that the government gives that out. And that was for rescuing those soldiers that I mentioned before the drunken soldiers, she got the gold life-saving metal. Um, there was another thing that also contributed to that, which was a couple of other soldiers from Fort Adams. This was sort of compounded in with, with her previous rescue of Fort Adams soldiers. There were a couple of soldiers from Fort Adams who were trying to walk across the ice
Starting point is 00:30:58 along the shoreline back to the fort and they fell through the ice and she went out there and rescued them as well. Like it just, it, it cracks me up that there's this like 37 year old woman on a little Island, um, just like out there rescuing people seemingly day in and day out all the time all the time like that also shows how dangerous the waters were that people needed rescuing that much but they stay out of the water that seems like a logical explanation to me like don't try to walk on thin ice don't try to sail in a snowstorm that seems logical to me like you could have saved a lot of trouble for ida here absolutely this is one of her this is a little bit of her writing when she was writing a letter about her time on this island she said sometimes the spray dashes against these
Starting point is 00:32:00 windows so thick i can't see out and for days at a time, the waves are so high that no boat would dare come near the rock, not even if we were starving, but I am happy. There is a piece on this rock that you don't get on shore. There are hundreds of boats going in and out of this Harbor in summer. And it's part of my happiness to know that they are depending on me to guide them safely. Her last rescue was in 1905 when she was 63 years old. She'd been out there doing this job since she was a teenager and now she's 63 and a friend was rowing out to visit her saw her stood up to wave like hey Ida and fell overboard and Ida such a good movie like all these scenes I can just see them yeah in the end she realizes
Starting point is 00:33:04 like her soulmate was the lighthouse. Like that's right. She realized it before the end, but. That's so true. So Ida had to go get her boat and rescue her friend. But even at age 63, she was still capable of rescuing people. This is one of the things that is very interesting is I don't, I don't pretend to actually know all of the specifics of how to rescue a person in the water
Starting point is 00:33:31 while you're in a boat, but this is not like a large coast guard vessel where we just send a ladder down, right? This is a small wooden boat. And so there's a good chance that they could also swamp your boat. If they pull too hard on the side, just tip you over. And it's also not like the person in the water has any leverage. They're really low. They're being hit in the face with water. They're cold. They probably don't have the upper body strength to easily get themselves into the boat.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Ida had to provide a lot of the strength to get somebody into the boat. Ida had to provide a lot of the strength to get somebody into the boat. So she died of a stroke when she was 69 years old in 1911, she was still living at the lighthouse. She died of a stroke alone there. I didn't know if her siblings were still there or anyone. Nope. She was, she was alone there. Although somebody had come to check on her because the light had not been lit and they were like, what is going on out here? And they discovered her. And after it was discovered that she had died, all of the bells on all of the vessels in Newport Harbor rang in her honor that night. And all of the flags were flown at half mast.
Starting point is 00:34:48 That was the reputation that she had developed over all of her years of service at this lighthouse. And one of the men who was a pallbearer at her funeral was one of the boys that she rescued when she was 16 years old. His name was Samuel Powell. He obviously never forgot her. That's incredible. And I also have to imagine like everybody in that funeral home was like, I'm also a descendant of someone who almost drowned. Me too. Me too. And like the whole, everyone there, there because of her yes like the impact on future generations because that person didn't die good point exactly yes really good point so she is credited with saving around 35 people from drowning and probably
Starting point is 00:35:42 many hundreds more than that those are like the 35 people on official official record and obviously thousands more than that from her tending to this lighthouse tirelessly tending to this lighthouse keeping the boats from hitting the shore etc and in 1924 And in 1924, they changed the name of the Lime Rock Lighthouse to the Ida Lewis Lighthouse. And it is the only lighthouse in the United States to be named after its keeper, which I think is really amazing. I love that. In 1995, the Coast Guard named a ship after her, a buoy tending ship. They named it the Ida Lewis. And in 2018, Ida Lewis became the first woman to have a road named after her at Arlington National Cemetery. It's called Lewis Drive. So her legacy lives on even today amongst
Starting point is 00:36:48 the soldiers who are buried at Arlington Cemetery. There is a Lewis Drive there named after Ida Lewis. And I also loved this quote from her when people asked her, like, what do you say to people who are like, it is unladylike for women to row boats the way that you do? She was like, none but a donkey would consider it unfeminine to save lives. I love that. And of course, she probably didn't actually mean donkey, right? Like she probably meant a less flattering name, but none but a donkey would consider it unfeminine to save lives. Isn't that cool? That is very cool. And just even be asked that question.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yes. So ridiculous. Isn't it unfeminine of you to row boats and save lives but couldn't you be doing something more worthwhile and just let them die couldn't you be doing some cross-ditching you know what I mean like what are you supposed to say she's like uh nobody but a donkey would consider it unfeminine to save lives where was that published published? Like what, was it a big magazine that was in or just something you found? It was in the, in Harper's book. She was in that magazine on and off regularly because she was somebody that the female readers of Harper's enjoyed hearing about. Like, what is Ida Lewis up to these days? Oh, president Grant went out to see her. That is fantastic. You know,
Starting point is 00:38:26 like you can just picture all the ladies getting their monthly magazines and just like wanting to keep up on all the news about Ida. Yeah. So cute. The first influencer with her scarf. That's right. I'm going to Google that photo too. I want to see that. I had a Louis scarf. Yes. Oh, this was really fun. Tell everybody where they can find you, where they can follow your hilarity. You can find me on Instagram at the daily Tay. And as soon as I say that I cringe a little, I came up with the name like 12, 13 years ago when I created my blog. And I was like, I'll change it tomorrow. And here we are.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And like one of the things I do is I kind of poke fun at stupid influencer names. You know them. Like High Heels. Lip Liner. Turquoise Heels. And then I always forget I have such a dumb name myself. Anyway, that's my handle. Where can they find your blog?
Starting point is 00:39:26 Well, the daily tay.com until I change it. That's what it is. I have to admit that when I first started following you and I saw it was called the daily Tay. My first impression was like, you were famous. That was my first impression is like, wow, somebody would want to know about her daily. And the truth is I'm actually just a narcissist and like talk about myself daily. No, no. But that was my like first impression was like, oh, people would want to know about her daily. Wow. You know how people like to keep up with the Kardashians? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:11 They would want to know about Taylor on the daily. Yeah. Where am I going to go with that from now on? So do with that what you will. I will. Yeah. Well, I will keep watching all of your hilarious stories and all of the fun that you poke at influencer culture, which is way too funny and way too right on. So keep it up.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Thank you so much. And thank you for having me and sharing this story. And I hope it's a movie someday that maybe you write. Maybe you write. Maybe I can be an extra in it who falls off the boat. You deserve better than that. Come on now. Yeah, that's about all I want. And then I'll go to like one of those Rhode Island bars. Thank you so much for listening to the Sharon says so podcast. I am truly grateful for you. And I'm wondering if you could do me a quick favor, would you be willing to follow or subscribe to this podcast or maybe leave me a rating or review?
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