Heroes in Business - Carter Wilcoxson, Making A Difference In People's Lives with Ben Offit, CFP
Episode Date: November 23, 2022Ben is an ambitious guy, a great listener, and has an excellent work ethic and high integrity. Clients give high marks to his communication style; in contrast to many other practitioners, he explains ...in this episode of The Health and Wealth Podcast Show.
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                                         Welcome to the Health and Wealth Podcast with your hosts, Tim and Carter.
                                         
                                         What's trending, enrichers? Carter Wilcox, founder of CSI Financial Group here with my co-host and former wealth advisor, Tim James, founder of?
                                         
                                         Tim James, founder of ChemicalFreeBody.com and your new health advisor. This is the show where we reveal the connection between physical and financial abundance. Hey, welcome back,
                                         
                                         enrichers. Carter Wilcoxon coming to you from sunny, warm Phoenix, Arizona. It's right around
                                         
                                         108 degrees out here in the desert. It's a dry heat, though. I promise there is a huge difference.
                                         
                                         out here in the desert. It's a dry heat though, I promise. There's a huge difference. We are super excited about having our guests coming on today, coming in from the East Coast. But before we bring
                                         
                                         in Ben Offit of Offit Advisors, let me go ahead and bring in my esteemed co-host, Mr. Chemical
                                         
                                         Free Body himself, Tim James. Timmy, how are you, my man? Hey, doing good, brother. Doing good. Just had a long weekend.
                                         
    
                                         We went up to Washington by Mount Adams to a mud festival.
                                         
                                         So a band went up there and we got to play a little bit.
                                         
                                         I didn't play in that band, but I took my guitar and walked around
                                         
                                         and ended up playing in the, in the what do you call it
                                         
                                         there's little um food carts there was a mexican food cart there and i met the owners and stuff and
                                         
                                         i was in there playing music inside of the food cart and then i did a couple campfires and just
                                         
                                         went around met a bunch of people and connected and it was a lot of fun and and um i'm dragging
                                         
                                         a little bit from a lot of driving and staying up late.
                                         
    
                                         Those things, that thing went to like two in the morning or something like that.
                                         
                                         Well, we're going to call it.
                                         
                                         Go ahead.
                                         
                                         Well, I was going to say, thank God I have all my products and all this stuff,
                                         
                                         my little tricks and hacks to bring myself back.
                                         
                                         But I need one more night of good sleep and I'll be back 100%.
                                         
                                         So I'm like 92% today.
                                         
                                         Thank goodness for that.
                                         
    
                                         I did hit my sauna this morning and everything.
                                         
                                         We went out for an early morning walk, but it's in the summertime here in
                                         
                                         Phoenix, we have monsoons, right?
                                         
                                         And last night we got pounded from like 10 o'clock until like four o'clock in
                                         
                                         the morning. It literally,
                                         
                                         I got basically shot out of bed because our power went off and then came back
                                         
                                         on and this like thunder boomer and everything um and it was
                                         
                                         crazy but we went out for a walk this morning because it was nice you know fresh rain and
                                         
    
                                         everything so that was cool and then of course i hit the sauna uh because myself this week for you
                                         
                                         and richards who are listening that are golf fans at all it was the open championship which means
                                         
                                         that golf comes on at three o'clock in the morning,
                                         
                                         starts at 3 o'clock in the morning.
                                         
                                         And me and my better half, Christina, were up bright and early each day
                                         
                                         starting Friday morning at 3 o'clock in the morning
                                         
                                         watching the Open Championship.
                                         
                                         So I was lacking a little bit of sleep as well, my man.
                                         
    
                                         It happens.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But as is normal, I always like to impart a little bit of golf almost every episode. If we don't have that, I feel like we might go into withdrawals.
                                         
                                         But anyway, with all that being said, and Richards, we are super excited to bring in
                                         
                                         our guest today from Maryland and from Offit Advisors, Ben Offit, CFP. Ben, how are you
                                         
                                         doing? Doing great. How are you? Doing fantastic. And I know it's late on the East Coast. Tim and
                                         
                                         I are out here on the West Coast. It's three hours later there and everything. So thank you very much
                                         
                                         for joining us late in the day, taking you away from your family and everything to be able to do this.
                                         
    
                                         And family is important. Obviously, you know, we want to balance work life and everything,
                                         
                                         but we really are appreciative of having you come on and be our guest today on the Health and Wealth Podcast.
                                         
                                         Well, thanks for having me. I appreciate the opportunity.
                                         
                                         Yeah, absolutely. Our pleasure. So, Ben, as is normal on the Health and Wealth Podcast,
                                         
                                         pleasure. So, Ben, as is normal on the Health and Wealth Podcast, what we want to do is we want to go ahead and have the enrichers, that's our audience that we call them, share with them,
                                         
                                         you know, your story. You know, we normally don't grow up thinking, oh, I'm going to be a financial
                                         
                                         advisor, right? Now, we've had guests that come on that they sort of were in the area for a long
                                         
                                         time because of their parents or whatever. But let's go back and share with our listenership on what was it that first brought
                                         
    
                                         you into this industry of, you know, wanting to be in the financial advisory space and having a
                                         
                                         heart for helping people? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean, you're exactly right. I fell into it. I never expected to be in this line of work ever. It just kind of happened. I know that's true for a lot of people, but that's what happened with me too. And it's really been a great fit. entrepreneurship major you know very interested in starting my own business of some sort didn't
                                         
                                         know how that would manifest or come to light but i knew that's what i wanted to do in some way shape
                                         
                                         or form and then i also knew i wanted to help people um was pretty serious about that you know
                                         
                                         i felt like i needed to do something that had meaning and purpose um and if it didn't i felt
                                         
                                         like i would you know not be enjoying my days didn't, I felt like I would, you know,
                                         
                                         not be enjoying my days, I guess. So I was looking for that, you know, combination and
                                         
                                         intersection of entrepreneurship and, you know, the ability to really make an impact
                                         
    
                                         and, you know, have that be unlimited, I guess, in both directions.
                                         
                                         both directions. So I graduated from college in 2009, right after, you know, right in the midst of, you know, the Great Recession, right? Right. So it's pretty scary time to graduate.
                                         
                                         I really had no idea what I was going to do. I was looking for those two things, but I didn't
                                         
                                         know what was going to happen next. My girlfriend at the time, who's now my wife, got a job in Baltimore, which is where I'm from.
                                         
                                         And when that happened, I felt like that was like a sign from God that I'm supposed to
                                         
                                         find a job in the area. And, you know, she got a job in my hometown and, you know, stay with her
                                         
                                         and figure it out. So I was in the business school, University of Maryland,
                                         
                                         and got a call at like 9.30 in the morning. I was still sleeping, which is crazy for me now,
                                         
    
                                         because now sleeping in for me is like 6.30. That was early for me at the time. And they were like,
                                         
                                         hey, we saw your resume on the business school database you know
                                         
                                         would it want to come in for an interview and it was um northwestern mutual big life insurance
                                         
                                         company um uh you know financial services company and i was just like yeah sure you know whatever
                                         
                                         and i just you know hung up and went back to bed um but then i did some more research into it and
                                         
                                         you know it looks like it could have some of those elements of helping people, entrepreneurship, not having a limit on my income, earning capability
                                         
                                         and my time.
                                         
                                         I went with it, went to the interview, learned more about it and didn't really have many
                                         
    
                                         other opportunities.
                                         
                                         I liked
                                         
                                         what I heard. And so I started to go through the motions of it and I went through with it. And I,
                                         
                                         you know, I got to tell you, I mean, my family, you know, it was like, we sent you to college for
                                         
                                         four years for you to come out of school, a commission-based job and sell life insurance.
                                         
                                         And I was just like, I guess, I mean, that's what's going to happen. I think it's just like I guess I mean that's what's gonna happen I think
                                         
                                         it's gonna work out well and I was you know pretty jazzed about it and I just
                                         
                                         went for it and I think that was like my first taste of just like you know
                                         
    
                                         whatever rejection I'm gonna face or whatever people think I don't care I'm
                                         
                                         just gonna go for it and do what I'm going to do. And I went right into it and just, you know, believed in it right away.
                                         
                                         I drank the Kool-Aid and I just said, I'm going to do whatever they tell me to do to be successful.
                                         
                                         Because that's what they told me.
                                         
                                         They said, if you do what we tell you and follow our playbook, you know, like a franchise, like a McDonald's, you'll make it.
                                         
                                         And I wanted to make it.
                                         
                                         I didn't want to fail.
                                         
                                         And I just did that to a t i i
                                         
    
                                         really worked my tail off to uh follow that playbook and i did and it worked and uh it you
                                         
                                         know i stuck around there for six and a half years it was a hard decision to leave uh and then i left
                                         
                                         to go more to the independent side but that's kind of the long-winded story.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         No, that's awesome.
                                         
                                         So let's go back and get a little bit more personal.
                                         
                                         Your girlfriend at the time, wife now, congratulations.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
    
                                         You guys met and you're both Terrapins.
                                         
                                         Did I hear that right?
                                         
                                         Both Terrapins, yep.
                                         
                                         She's definitely the biggest accomplishment in my life,
                                         
                                         and I mean that sincerely.
                                         
                                         She's way out of my league in every way.
                                         
                                         You use the football term because I saw in your bio you're a Ravens fan, right?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'm a big Ravens fan.
                                         
    
                                         You outpunted your coverage on that deal.
                                         
                                         What's that?
                                         
                                         You outpunted your coverage on that deal.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I did.
                                         
                                         I definitely did.
                                         
                                         We lived on the same floor freshman year in college, same dorm room.
                                         
                                         There was a guy side and a girl side. And, you know, I met her pretty much the first day of college.
                                         
                                         And I was like, who is that? I was like, you know, one day she'll be mine.
                                         
    
                                         And that and that happened. So it was a dream come true for sure.
                                         
                                         Oh, that is that is awesome. And then so you guys have been married for how long now then?
                                         
                                         It'll be nine years in November.
                                         
                                         Wow. Fantastic. And then how many kids you guys have together?
                                         
                                         Two. Two boys. Two young boys.
                                         
                                         Two young boys. Well, obviously they got to be fairly young, right? I mean, you just so you met her in 2009.
                                         
                                         I graduated in 2009. I met her in 2005.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah, that's right. So your freshman year, you meet her. So all through college, you're dating and everything.
                                         
    
                                         Nope. Didn't really start dating till like late junior year, early senior year, but had a crush throughout but you were always working
                                         
                                         your angles i'll bet right yeah yeah just waiting for my my opportunity nice so so when you get this
                                         
                                         opportunity from northwestern mutual then um you guys are obviously very i mean you're married at the time right no no uh graduated college still boyfriend
                                         
                                         girlfriend um didn't get married till i guess like three years later oh so yeah uh no four
                                         
                                         years later yeah got engaged three years later so how much of an impact or influence did she have on you or if there was any at all
                                         
                                         as far as like going into the financial services business then?
                                         
                                         Well, I couldn't say that she directed me to get into this line of work. I would say,
                                         
                                         you know, her getting the job in Baltimore had an impact because I probably would have figured out a way to follow her.
                                         
    
                                         You know, if she had gone somewhere else, like if she had moved to New York or something, I probably would have probably figured out a way to go to New York as well or do something.
                                         
                                         You know, and that could have led me down a totally different path.
                                         
                                         But, you know, we definitely took different paths. I mean, she took a big corporate finance job,
                                         
                                         you know, out of college and with, you know, a good salary starting out, you know, for someone
                                         
                                         out of college and, you know, a corporate track, which was definitely the more normal thing to do
                                         
                                         out of college, I would say, out of business school. What I did, you know was was weird or rare people are like what what are you
                                         
                                         doing you're doing that and yeah they're like you could have done that right out of high school why
                                         
                                         you got to go to college for all that stuff right yeah exactly but you know for me like you know i
                                         
    
                                         had that entrepreneurial mindset and i was like well this is entrepreneurial, even though it's more of a traditional service offering.
                                         
                                         It's the opportunity for me to build and grow something and build a client base and kind of put my hard work into it and my effort.
                                         
                                         And, you know, that appealed to me.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's awesome.
                                         
                                         So you talked a little bit about how it was, you know, six years in with Northwestern Mutual.
                                         
                                         It was a it was a tough decision to to leave.
                                         
                                         But I would venture a guess as a fellow entrepreneur that your entrepreneurial spirit kept kicking in for you to really have your own business or practice.
                                         
                                         Is that fair? Definitely. It was just something in the back of my mind, like an itch I couldn't scratch
                                         
    
                                         and, you know, just something that was a recurring thought in my brain, you know, I could be doing
                                         
                                         this differently or better, you know, doing this way. And I just felt constrained or confined
                                         
                                         somewhat, you know, Northwestern was great. Ultimately, I built my foundation there and
                                         
                                         learned a lot and made a lot of great relationships, built a lot of great
                                         
                                         clients. But yeah, it was just, you know, the entrepreneurial opportunity to do things even
                                         
                                         more so, you know, how I wanted to do them or how I felt. And also, I just felt like I could be a
                                         
                                         better advisor, honestly, just, you know, being independent, unbiased, not representing a manufacturer of products.
                                         
                                         I just felt like I could, you know, really, truly sit on the same side of the table as the client.
                                         
    
                                         And I felt like that was pushing me as well.
                                         
                                         I don't think people understand how important that is. Like when you're choosing a financial advisor, why independent is good?
                                         
                                         Because it's like, if you go to a baker, they bake.
                                         
                                         If you go to a baker they bake if you go to a surgeon
                                         
                                         they cut if you go to some place that sells a certain stock bond and mutual fund portfolio
                                         
                                         that's probably what you're going to walk out of there with and not to mention names but there's
                                         
                                         one company that like they pretty much off their crappy mutual funds
                                         
                                         and to to the clients you know and it's like and they
                                         
    
                                         incentivize their advisors to do that and I just it's just people don't know
                                         
                                         so like being independent to first off for those listening if you're not an
                                         
                                         advisor and you're somebody that just you know is listening because you might
                                         
                                         want to hire an advisor or you are just you know interested in the show or
                                         
                                         whatever when you work with somebody independent they had to take a big leap you might want to hire an advisor or you are just, you know, interested in the show or whatever.
                                         
                                         When you work with somebody independent, they had to take a big leap of faith to get out of
                                         
                                         where they were. They're, they're, I consider a captive agent. So they have to sell whatever
                                         
                                         they're told to sell. And they, it's a very limited scope. So Mark, so what ended up happening was,
                                         
    
                                         is that Ben actually walked away from that, that security and that safety with probably lots of clients and all that stuff, to go out on his own to try to do it right.
                                         
                                         And to be able to help people more and to be able to give them like, wow, if they really need a hammer to hammer the nail in, I don't have to use a screwdriver anymore.
                                         
                                         And I can really help them increase their rates of return, protect their assets.
                                         
                                         You know, just there's, it's a lot more work to go independent. People don't realize you have to really put your time
                                         
                                         and effort into it and you have to run the whole show, everything from the whole gamma and deal
                                         
                                         with securities, you know, commission and all that. And it's a lot to be able to do what you're
                                         
                                         doing. So it's commendable. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, I agree. It was, it was, it was scary for sure.
                                         
                                         You know, and again, as,
                                         
    
                                         as all three of us are entrepreneurs here and everything, what I,
                                         
                                         what I'm wanting to know where I was going with that also is now you are
                                         
                                         married. Now you are going to go independent.
                                         
                                         Now what types of conversations are you having with your wife about leaving
                                         
                                         Northwestern mutualual and this,
                                         
                                         maybe this comfort zone that you were in a little bit? Because no one likes change,
                                         
                                         but as an entrepreneur, that's what we're constantly thinking about, right? We're always
                                         
                                         thinking about how do you make the mousetrap better, so to speak, right? How do you do it
                                         
    
                                         better? And you're always trying to do it better. So you are compelled really and driven from that
                                         
                                         spirit that you have.
                                         
                                         I'm just curious, how was that?
                                         
                                         How were those types of conversations that you had with your wife about
                                         
                                         leaving Northwestern Mutual and now going independent?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         She's definitely much more risk averse than I am.
                                         
                                         So, you know, it's not a decision she would probably make, but, you know, she probably also would have been in the job that I was in the first place.
                                         
    
                                         But I think at the end of the day, she believed in me and felt like, you know, she trusted that I was doing what I felt was right for the future.
                                         
                                         And I think she knew if I did it, I would make it.
                                         
                                         And I think that's right.
                                         
                                         That's true.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So and I can tell you that my wife,
                                         
                                         I weigh up on a, my cover shoe, right. I tell people all the time, if you want to know how
                                         
    
                                         good of a sales person I am, quote unquote, just meet my wife, right. Because there's no way that,
                                         
                                         uh, someone this, this beautiful, smart should be married to this guy, but, but that's support
                                         
                                         that you get at home. I mean, it's critically important for your success.
                                         
                                         No doubt. No doubt. You know, I'm thankful for that. You know, definitely,
                                         
                                         you know, you know, if you've got a good home life, you know,
                                         
                                         it's easier to be grounded and have that, you know,
                                         
                                         faith in yourself and that confidence that you've got that security in other
                                         
                                         ways. And, you know, also from a parental perspective, I mean, I'm, you know, I'm lucky.
                                         
    
                                         I have great parents growing up, you know, definitely, you know, loving and supportive environment.
                                         
                                         And I think that, you know, helped instill confidence in me at a young age that, you know, I'd be OK.
                                         
                                         You know, I think that's important. So I'm lucky for the path that I've had.
                                         
                                         Except when you wanted to sell insurance after four years of college.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Yeah, that's true. But I think that,
                                         
                                         what are you doing over there?
                                         
                                         I think that gave me a little bit of a, a little bit of extra motivation,
                                         
                                         I think, which was actually good.
                                         
    
                                         Prove everybody that you could do it. That's awesome.
                                         
                                         Yes, but you're right.
                                         
                                         Hey, it all helps. You got you got the wife at home.
                                         
                                         You got to take care of that. You know, kids are coming, all this stuff and little parental push and, you know, striving to do it yourself and just be a success.
                                         
                                         So that's awesome. So, yeah. All right, guys, we're going to take a quick break and we get back.
                                         
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                                         What's up, enrichers? Tim James here. I'm back with my co-host, Carter Wilcoxon.
                                         
                                         Today in the house, we have Ben Offit, Certified Financial Planner from the East Coast.
                                         
                                         And, you know, hey, Ben, you know what was really cool?
                                         
                                         I mean, before we get into all the cool stuff you're doing,
                                         
                                         I noticed that you must have an insider at the Baltimore Magazine,
                                         
    
                                         You must have an insider at the Baltimore Magazine, or you're really good at what you do because he was named five-star wealth manager by Baltimore Magazine in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 as a top wealth manager under. Oh, and he's also named a top wealth manager under 40 by Fortune Magazine.
                                         
                                         So pretty cool.
                                         
                                         You've been hustling over there, haven't you, buddy?
                                         
                                         Always hustling.
                                         
                                         pretty cool you've been hustling over there having you buddy always hustling so what are you doing to help your clients and the byproduct of that is you know you get these little awards and these
                                         
                                         glass trophies and i mean it's kind of fun and stuff but for me like i could care less about
                                         
                                         the trophies i just really wanted to grow my practice and help people. So what are you doing over there that you think separates yourself?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I mean, really just that. I mean, you know, I've always just, I've always focused on helping people. I mean, like I said, in the beginning of the show that, you know, that was a huge component
                                         
    
                                         of entering this line of work for me was the opportunity to really make a difference in
                                         
                                         people's lives. And that's what motivates me each
                                         
                                         day and focuses me each day, you know, and before each meeting, I just try to think of, well, you
                                         
                                         know, how can I truly help this person and make a difference in their, in their life today, this
                                         
                                         moment. And I think by doing that, I'm, I'm kind of like an introverted person and I don't think
                                         
                                         I'm very salesy in the traditional sense, but I think that I get passionate and, you know, you know, focused and, you know, sincere and good at what I do, you know, because of that desire to truly, you know, the opportunity for me. It's about, well, how can I
                                         
                                         make as much of an impact on this person? And, you know, by doing that, that's when you get
                                         
                                         good results, I think, because it's, you know, it's sincere, genuine belief in what I'm recommending
                                         
    
                                         or prescribing for the client, I guess. Well, let me just, I want to jump in because you were
                                         
                                         talking about all those awards that obviously Ben won. But as I'm looking at your resume,
                                         
                                         the thing that stands out to me is you're not a generalist, you are a specialist. Like you
                                         
                                         understand the P and C side of the equation, right? You understand you've got your real estate license.
                                         
                                         You're a CFP.
                                         
                                         I mean, you can manage money, insurance.
                                         
                                         I mean, it runs the whole gamut of the things that you can provide for your clients.
                                         
                                         And I got to say, I don't know if I've ever, and this is 20 years working as an advisor
                                         
    
                                         to advisors.
                                         
                                         I don't know if I've seen any advisor who had their real estate license, their PNC license, their life insurance
                                         
                                         license, their securities license. It's pretty impressive, Ben. There's no doubt about it. And
                                         
                                         if you are out there shopping for someone to even know how to do all of those different things,
                                         
                                         that tells me that you are trying to be the one-stop shop so to speak for
                                         
                                         your clientele i'm not trying to put words in your mouth but is that some of the the idea or we need
                                         
                                         to get this guy a hobby yeah yeah exactly i mean i think that one-stop shop concept that um
                                         
                                         you know we've used that term and you, you know, that is something that's crossed
                                         
    
                                         my mind a lot. I think for me, you know, I talked about leaving Northwestern Mutual, also a big part
                                         
                                         of that beyond the entrepreneurship thing and, you know, being a better advisor. Actually, well,
                                         
                                         hand in hand with being a better advisor is I got my CFP, you know, designation when I was at
                                         
                                         I got my CFP designation when I was at Northwestern Mutual, and that also lit up a bunch of light bulbs in my brain.
                                         
                                         And when we were studying for that, it was about so many different subject matters that didn't pertain to selling insurance. That's not the only thing you do at Northwestern.
                                         
                                         That's obviously a big focus of it.
                                         
                                         Northwestern. That's obviously a big focus of it. But things about reverse mortgages or cash flow or
                                         
                                         estate planning or auto insurance or so many different subjects. And I'm just thinking to myself, why am I not focusing on all this stuff as much as I'm focusing on the insurance aspect?
                                         
    
                                         A real advisor really needs to be able to help clients with all these
                                         
                                         things. And so that was the first thing. And then I started thinking, well, you know, there's got to
                                         
                                         be more than the environment that I'm in to be able to do more of this stuff and be more in-depth
                                         
                                         with clients. So then once I went to independent channel, you know, I couldn't get my PNC license
                                         
                                         at Northwestern. It wasn't allowed. And I said, well, why not? Why can't I get it now? And I got
                                         
                                         it and my real estate license and, you know, just started going down all these different roads. And
                                         
                                         it made me more knowledgeable in all these different ways as well. And then we actually
                                         
                                         started, you know, to do more services in-house that we, you know, got into tax filing and bookkeeping and accounting
                                         
    
                                         and property and casualty insurance. And we really were starting to form this one-stop shop and,
                                         
                                         you know, we were successful in doing that, you know, but we actually just changed course,
                                         
                                         you know, this year because even though we've been building up those different aspects to our
                                         
                                         business, we, I think kind of realized that, well,
                                         
                                         it's good to be able to serve clients in those regards that are still our core
                                         
                                         businesses, financial planning and investment advisory and insurance.
                                         
                                         And we kind of were, you know,
                                         
                                         veering away a little bit from our main, main focus.
                                         
    
                                         And we thought we could be just better at going back to our roots, so to speak.
                                         
                                         So it's just been kind of an evolution.
                                         
                                         We'll see what the future holds.
                                         
                                         I mean, we get bigger as a firm over time.
                                         
                                         Potentially we'll get back into it.
                                         
                                         But right now we're just focused on our core model.
                                         
                                         Okay, that's awesome. So I'm curious, was it, and maybe I missed this part of it in the first segment.
                                         
                                         And, Richers, again, thanks for joining us for another episode of the Health and Wealth Podcast.
                                         
    
                                         We're on here with Ben Offit of Offit Advisors, CFP, and the jack of all trades, it looks like.
                                         
                                         But did you go straight from Northwestern Mutual to starting Offit? And the jack of all trades, it looks like.
                                         
                                         But did you go straight from Northwestern Mutual to starting off it? Or did you was there something in between and then you started off at advisors?
                                         
                                         Good question. There was something in between in a way.
                                         
                                         So I was, you know, honestly, a star at Northwestern Mutual.
                                         
                                         You know, I was one of the top younger advisors in the
                                         
                                         country. But again, most of that was on the insurance angle side of things because that's
                                         
                                         the bread and butter of Northwestern. So when I went to leave Northwestern, I didn't want
                                         
    
                                         to go straight to an RIA channel. I'm an independent broker-dealer
                                         
                                         slash hybrid RIA set up now because a lot of my accounts were commission-based from Northwestern.
                                         
                                         But none of the independent broker-dealers really wanted me because they didn't really
                                         
                                         care about my insurance production. They cared about my investment production, which was decent, but not high enough to go out on my
                                         
                                         own. So what happened was I joined forces with another advisor where we formed a new brand.
                                         
                                         He was an older advisor, had a bigger book of business than I did. And I basically was under
                                         
                                         his branch, I guess, technically you could say, but we had, you know, the same brand,
                                         
                                         totally separate profit and loss statements, totally separate expenses, totally separate
                                         
    
                                         clients. It's just like we were together. And that's what allowed me to get into the
                                         
                                         independent space that I'm in now. So that firm was called Clear Path Advisory. We formed that
                                         
                                         together. And then after two years together, I realized that we weren't on the same trajectory, I guess you could say, and what we wanted out of the business. And that's when I decided to just separate and make it Offit Advisors, it makes perfect sense. I just had a suspicion that wasn't straight from Northwestern to Offutt. It felt like there was something, you know, in between. And that was your, again, I would venture a guess that you're like, you weren't philosophically exactly aligned. And you're like, I can do it better. Right. So you went from Northwestern Mutual and you're like, that was great foundation to learn
                                         
                                         all these things.
                                         
                                         Then you get your CFP and you're like,
                                         
                                         wait a second, there's so many more better things
                                         
                                         we can do.
                                         
                                         And then you're like, hey, I met this guy,
                                         
    
                                         let's do something.
                                         
                                         And then you're there for two years
                                         
                                         and you're like, no, I just have to take the bull
                                         
                                         by the horns and do it myself.
                                         
                                         Is that?
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's exactly right.
                                         
                                         But again, the other gentleman I'm still close to
                                         
                                         I learned a lot from him as well you know I he helped me you know change into the independent
                                         
    
                                         space which was a huge change um and so you know he also came from the insurance world prior so he
                                         
                                         kind of knew what that Leap was about so we definitely had some commonalities there and
                                         
                                         he was helpful to me and um you know i learned a lot
                                         
                                         you know but at the same time you know still like at northwestern people ask me well how long has
                                         
                                         your practice been around and you know i really i really look at it like it's been around since day
                                         
                                         one you know um 13 years now it's just been in different locations right it's like it's always
                                         
                                         been my practice it's always been my clients my expenses, it's always been my practice. It's always been my clients, my expenses. Like it's always been, you know,
                                         
                                         relying upon what I'm doing each day.
                                         
    
                                         It's just had different houses or places where it's lived.
                                         
                                         Well, a little different branding, right? Yeah. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Let's drive in a different vehicle. That's it. Right.
                                         
                                         You were the centerpiece. Yeah, exactly. You know, so like my clients along the way are like different vehicle. That's it. Right. You were the centerpiece.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         So my clients along the way are like, okay, that's fine.
                                         
                                         As long as you're still there, it doesn't matter if it's Northwestern or Clearpath or whatever.
                                         
                                         So it's just been one evolution after the next.
                                         
    
                                         And I'm sure there's gonna be many more in the future.
                                         
                                         just been one, one evolution after the next, and I'm sure there's gonna be many more in the future.
                                         
                                         It's just embracing change and embracing new opportunities and just getting better along ways each step as he can. Yeah. So, so let's talk a little bit about your, about your clientele. I
                                         
                                         see obviously on your bio, young professionals, entrepreneurs, retirees, and, you know, you know,
                                         
                                         things like that. So what does your, you know, your clientele from
                                         
                                         end to end, right? Like demographic wise, are they from, you know, late twenties, early thirties,
                                         
                                         all the way up to eighties? You know, what, what does your makeup look like? And,
                                         
                                         and a secondary question is, what do you think it is that your clientele like about working with Offit Advisors?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, the clientele is pretty diverse in all different ways, you know, ages, backgrounds,
                                         
                                         you know, religions, socioeconomic statuses, occupations. We like that, you know,
                                         
                                         occupations. We like that. You know, it's all different kinds of people. I feel like we're well-versed in serving, you know, like the young professional all the way to, you know,
                                         
                                         the post-retiree. And what was your second question? I was just wondering about, you know,
                                         
                                         I was just wondering about, you know, well, actually, let me tie that question back to a different way to ask it.
                                         
                                         You started Offit Advisors. You're yourself.
                                         
                                         But when you look on your website, it looks like you've got a pretty substantial team.
                                         
                                         That's this whole organization. So are they working mainly with Ben Offit or are they working with some of your different advisors? How does the makeup and what do your clients like about working with them?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, so the makeup has continued to change.
                                         
                                         We've added more team members and advisors and staff and certainly grown over time.
                                         
                                         I mean, you know, for a long time, it really, you know, was just me and, you know, an admin, right, or an operations person, and then maybe another admin doing something else. But now we really have a team, we take a team approach. So the concept is now that when a client comes in, whether they're working with me, or whether they're working with another advisor on our team, they're getting a common you know same financial planning experience and process and
                                         
                                         philosophy um you know regardless of who's working with them you know i i do still work with clients
                                         
                                         but we also have other advisors on the team you know who work with clients too um and i think
                                         
                                         what they like about it is you know we, we're very honest, transparent, truthful, you know, know our stuff, great service.
                                         
                                         We're great connectors for business owners.
                                         
                                         We have a lot of business owner clients.
                                         
    
                                         We have a good network of people.
                                         
                                         So we're always just trying to impact the business owner in other ways beyond just our services, but by introducing them to other resources or, you know, potential clients for
                                         
                                         them or referral partners for them. I think we just, you know, put the puzzle pieces together and,
                                         
                                         you know, just try to give them confidence, peace of mind, clarity, just like our tagline says. And
                                         
                                         I think we know what we're doing and people get good value.
                                         
                                         I think we know what we're doing and people get good value.
                                         
                                         Perfect.
                                         
                                         So are you guys all in like one office location?
                                         
    
                                         Because, you know, again, looking on your website, it looks like there's a pretty substantial sized team.
                                         
                                         And then, so I'm assuming there's one office location?
                                         
                                         So we have one main office location, which is where I'm at right now. But then we have other like satellite offices where, you know, we might, you know, have client meetings if it's more geographically convenient.
                                         
                                         You know, or, you know, we might have someone work out of there for the day.
                                         
                                         But, you know, we do have one main hub in central Maryland between Washington, D.C. and Baltimore.
                                         
                                         Oh, OK, cool.
                                         
                                         So over the last two and a half years,
                                         
                                         obviously there's been something that's changed this entire plan,
                                         
    
                                         and I don't know if you've heard about this or not,
                                         
                                         but how have things been going as far as client-like meetings,
                                         
                                         whether they're live or whether they're virtual?
                                         
                                         Has there been a substantial change one way or the other?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I mean, you know, I'd say before the pandemic, you know,
                                         
                                         we were probably 75% in person, 25% virtual,
                                         
                                         and that was probably high at the time.
                                         
    
                                         And then, you know, during the pandemic,
                                         
                                         we went 100% virtual as most people did.
                                         
                                         And, you know, a lot of financial advisors, you know, including us, really grew during that period.
                                         
                                         It allowed us to have a lot more meetings without drive time and, you know, shorter meetings.
                                         
                                         And, you know, it worked out well, ultimately our industry, I think, overall in our business.
                                         
                                         And we're thankful for that because there's a lot of businesses that really were suffering.
                                         
                                         So we're, you know, thankful that we were able to grow during that period.
                                         
                                         But now I would say it's, you know, probably closer to 50-50 again.
                                         
    
                                         50% in person, 50% virtual.
                                         
                                         Nice. Awesome. And then there's, is Offit Advisors,
                                         
                                         are you guys on a regular basis looking to bring on new junior advisors for you
                                         
                                         to train and coach and mentors, things like that? Or is that sort of the,
                                         
                                         it just just organically kind of happens?
                                         
                                         I think, I think it's both. I mean, we want to keep growing as an
                                         
                                         organization because I think that creates more opportunities for our team and other people that
                                         
                                         haven't joined our team yet. And we want to help, you know, create more opportunities and also gives
                                         
    
                                         us more capability to serve more people. And that's really our underlying mission.
                                         
                                         Like I said in the beginning,
                                         
                                         about impact.
                                         
                                         So if it's just one solo person,
                                         
                                         you certainly can have impact. But you can only physically help so many people
                                         
                                         without overload.
                                         
                                         You can only help, let's say,
                                         
                                         150, 200 clients or families. But if you
                                         
    
                                         build a team, you build systems and processes and, you know, you know, a team, you can
                                         
                                         multiply that tenfold and, you know, you have that much more impact. So that's really.
                                         
                                         Yeah. That's awesome. That leaves me with my my last question i know we're coming up on uh
                                         
                                         on the next commercial break and everything and we're going to get into that the health side of
                                         
                                         the health and wealth podcast um but you know what is uh how many households are you guys serving
                                         
                                         approximately right now i would say real households that are, you know, ongoing, regular, in-touch clients, like,
                                         
                                         that say, you know, Offit Advisors is our team, our resource for anything. I'd say it's 300,
                                         
                                         you know, but then, you know, there's a lot of clients that are, you know, I guess more or less transactional.
                                         
    
                                         We've touched in some way.
                                         
                                         Maybe it was an insurance policy here or there or investment account there, but not full blown, you know, regular planning clients all the time.
                                         
                                         You know, so that with, you know, that many people, it's probably probably near, I don't know, seven, eight hundred, something like that.
                                         
                                         Wow. OK, so so cumulatively then between and what you just got to saying, I sort of call them customers and then clients.
                                         
                                         Right. Like it does everything with you every chance they get.
                                         
                                         And, you know, they talk about you and maybe they're even advocates. Right.
                                         
                                         And then, of course, the course the customer right so in total
                                         
                                         you're you're saying that you have somewhere around 800 to a thousand then combined between
                                         
    
                                         customers and clients yeah probably something like that yeah well because i know that obviously
                                         
                                         pnc real estate i mean you've got to be there's got to be so many different types of you know
                                         
                                         um touch points where you know whether it's a customer or a client
                                         
                                         that that's, that's, that's impressive, by the way, I can honestly say that in my 20 years,
                                         
                                         you're one of, I can't even think of someone else that has their real estate or PNC or life and
                                         
                                         health or securities. Yeah, I mean, I think at the end of the day, I mean, I still believe this, that a client, you know, wants to go to one place, one source, one team, and that team can, you know, serve them in all facets.
                                         
                                         You know, so now we're still doing tax planning and, you know, PNC, it's just the work.
                                         
                                         We have partners to do it as opposed to us doing it in-house. So we work with those partners very closely with our clients. But's not one plan. It's really about one plan and all these products and services really
                                         
    
                                         cross over at the end of the day. Yeah. So it's what we call the multidisciplinary team approach.
                                         
                                         Yeah. So it's exactly what our business model is here and how we help advisors.
                                         
                                         I think offline, I think there might be some things that I can I can share with you that could potentially enhance some of the things that you're doing.
                                         
                                         But I got to tell you, I love philosophically everything I've heard.
                                         
                                         And and I can tell you that if you are shopping providers when it comes to having a one stop shop, they definitely needed to reach out to you.
                                         
                                         And I know that we'll make sure in the show notes,
                                         
                                         we'll have your website and how people can be able to get in contact with you
                                         
                                         and or your team and everything so that they can find out how they could
                                         
    
                                         potentially become one of your clients or customers. So anyway,
                                         
                                         Tim James, that's pretty great segment guys. it was good insight so what we'll do we'll
                                         
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                                         Tim James here.
                                         
                                         I'm back with my co-host, Carter Wilcox.
                                         
                                         And today in the house, we've got Ben Offit, Certified Financial Planner.
                                         
                                         Ben, this is the segment of the Health and Wealth Podcast where we flip the script and you get to ask me any question about health.
                                         
                                         So what's your question, sir?
                                         
                                         Or questions?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Are you familiar with the TB12 method?
                                         
                                         The TB12 method.
                                         
                                         I am not.
                                         
                                         Tell me about it.
                                         
                                         Is that the Tom Brady?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Looking it up right now.
                                         
                                         So, yeah, it's basically the Tom Brady method that he, you know,
                                         
    
                                         produced a book about, you know,
                                         
                                         crediting his longevity in NFL and his
                                         
                                         success in the NFL too.
                                         
                                         And basically it involves adding pliability as a huge part of fitness, which is not just
                                         
                                         cardio or weightlifting, but it's like elongating and stretching your muscles, exercises and not using weights as much as using
                                         
                                         bands um and then um you know he's like 80 plant-based i would say 20 you know animal protein
                                         
                                         um and then you know i don't know just different he's got some interesting
                                         
                                         And, you know, I don't know, just different.
                                         
    
                                         He's got some interesting thoughts.
                                         
                                         I'm just curious if you had a thought.
                                         
                                         Well, yeah, I mean, I pretty much I mean, it's so funny because we're actually going to put together a program, just have a cookie cutter program, because that's what everybody seems to be selling out there.
                                         
                                         But I'm actually a yin yoga instructor. So what yin yoga is, it's three to ten minute stretching postures
                                         
                                         because what I learned was actually way back in the day I was going to Hawaii
                                         
                                         for a honeymoon with my wife at the time,
                                         
                                         and I was reading this article from Sports Illustrated.
                                         
                                         There was this big, huge NFL football player doing yoga with these ladies,
                                         
    
                                         which kind of looked funny, you know, especially back then. I still had my redneck geek man made
                                         
                                         ego going and I was like reading it. But the NFL football players, if they could get an extra year
                                         
                                         or two, it could be millions of dollars for them. So they were getting their butts in there because
                                         
                                         it wasn't like their muscles weren't strong, but it was their ligaments and tendons were causing
                                         
                                         injuries. So when a baby's born, you can see, you know, they can move their legs all around and they're just all flexible.
                                         
                                         And then as we age, we stop moving because we're not out in nature like we should be as much. And
                                         
                                         we get these stupid, you know, desk jobs and we're not, you know, I mean, we get sedentary and we
                                         
                                         just don't move around. So the fascia, which is actually the largest organ in the body, not the
                                         
    
                                         skin, skin's number two, the fascia, it's this interconnect largest organ in the body, not the skin. Skin's number two.
                                         
                                         The fascia, it's this interconnective tissue, and it's kind of like taffy, and it gets really hard.
                                         
                                         But if you give it a gentle pull, after about 90 seconds of gently pulling it, it starts to open up, right? And then you're actually lengthening and strengthening that fascia, ligaments, and tendons.
                                         
                                         So after the 90-second mark is when the benefits actually begin. So the first 90 seconds is just warming up the fascia ligaments and tendons so after the 90 second mark is when the benefits actually
                                         
                                         begin so the first 90 seconds is just warming up the fascia then after that at least 90 seconds
                                         
                                         and go as long as you want up to 10 minutes or so you can actually really elongate those muscles
                                         
                                         and you start going and turning the tide and going back to where you were as a baby and you
                                         
                                         actually become more injured way more injury proof right yeah and that's his whole
                                         
    
                                         philosophy you know i think he tore his acl like in the early 2000s and he didn't want that to
                                         
                                         happen again and so he started figuring like how can i get tackled or you know roughed up without
                                         
                                         as much likelihood of getting hurt yeah so he could it could stay on. About two and a half years ago, I actually interviewed Dr.
                                         
                                         John Jake wish who has a band system and,
                                         
                                         and he claimed that it would triple muscle growth without injury and
                                         
                                         soreness.
                                         
                                         And so I looked into it and there was some Harvard studies where they
                                         
                                         actually took the weight stacks and the universal machines with the dips
                                         
    
                                         and the pull-ups and all that stuff.
                                         
                                         And they,
                                         
                                         on one machine,
                                         
                                         they wrap these elastic bands or um uh around the the weights
                                         
                                         themselves the other ones they didn't and they actually the harvard study showed they actually
                                         
                                         the people that had the bands wrapped around the weights as well trip or the muscle growth well
                                         
                                         what they found out was is that like you know when when you um like are you're running or pushing or
                                         
                                         doing whatever it's that last five to seven percent of movement is where most of your power comes from
                                         
    
                                         and your strength.
                                         
                                         So when you have an elastic band and you're down here,
                                         
                                         let's say doing bench press, there's, like, hardly any resistance at all.
                                         
                                         Whereas if you had 200 pounds of, you know,
                                         
                                         on a bar with some weight stacked on there,
                                         
                                         it would be, like, exposing your rotator cuff.
                                         
                                         This is where a lot of injuries come in.
                                         
                                         Guys get chest tears and stuff like that.
                                         
    
                                         And then you got to push it up.
                                         
                                         It's 200 pounds all the way through.
                                         
                                         Whereas the band, it starts out with zero and it's incrementally goes up.
                                         
                                         But that last five to 7%, you can be at 250, 300 pounds.
                                         
                                         And then it goes back down to nothing.
                                         
                                         So what ends up happening is, is that with curve, and what Dr. Jaquish found out was you do one set,
                                         
                                         but at least 15 reps, but to failure.
                                         
                                         So you have to go to failure, complete muscle exhaustion,
                                         
    
                                         but one set.
                                         
                                         That's it.
                                         
                                         You don't do a second or third.
                                         
                                         And you're going to get maximum growth with your muscle,
                                         
                                         and you won't get the soreness because it's the second
                                         
                                         and third sets that you're depleting essential nutrients out of the muscles like glycogen as an example right
                                         
                                         so that's where the soreness comes in so what i found out was like okay i'll try this and i really
                                         
                                         wasn't paying attention 100 and i was doing it like literally eight minutes a day i didn't even
                                         
    
                                         go to complete exhaustion i was just doing the 15 rep thing but it was kind of hard you know
                                         
                                         and in like three four months i put on 11 pounds of muscle.
                                         
                                         And I was like working out like eight minutes a day, six days a week and no injuries, no soreness.
                                         
                                         So it gave me more time to do the stretching. Right. Because I was really into yoga.
                                         
                                         And especially if you drive to a yoga studio and drive back and you do an hour, an hour and a half, that's a big time commitment.
                                         
                                         But it's a huge investment in your longevity and your health because you're staying like a young kid you're
                                         
                                         staying very pliable now with that said what ended up happening was i was i remember watching these
                                         
                                         uh monks i think i've told this story before there's the shaolin monk comes out he was like
                                         
    
                                         a master and he said the monks that practice only the karate lose their their power basically in their 60s or 70s.
                                         
                                         But the monks that practice the version of karate and the stretching or yoga type thing every day never lose their power.
                                         
                                         They stay young and flexible and they stay very strong and resilient.
                                         
                                         So there's multiple data points that I've experienced myself from other people saying basically the same thing.
                                         
                                         And now this Tom Brady thing is like another one.
                                         
                                         Plus I've been living this and I've helped hundreds and hundreds,
                                         
                                         if not thousands of men and women get off of heavyweights and go into resistance bands,
                                         
                                         latex resistance bands.
                                         
    
                                         A lot of them are doing X3 like I have.
                                         
                                         Way better gains.
                                         
                                         And now they have more time to spend more time doing stretching and yin yoga
                                         
                                         to balance out the strength and everything and keep them young and
                                         
                                         pliable and young. Anyway, and then the other thing you mentioned was an 80% plant-based
                                         
                                         diet or greater that he was doing. We talk about that all the time. If you look at the blue zones,
                                         
                                         the people that live the longest, there's certain pockets of areas around the world that have the
                                         
                                         most centurions, the people that live to 100. It was like the four commonalities. I'll
                                         
    
                                         just bring them up again because it's poignant. Number one, lifelong friends. That's why it's so
                                         
                                         important to get out and mix it up with your friends and stay in. We're tribal. You have to
                                         
                                         be able to touch people and see their faces. It's so important. That's how we're genetically made.
                                         
                                         If you get away from that stuff, you're hiding out, you know, covering your face. You're going against nature and creation.
                                         
                                         So number one, lifelong friends.
                                         
                                         Number two, they respect their elders in those cultures.
                                         
                                         High respect for them.
                                         
                                         Don't just throw them into a nursing home.
                                         
    
                                         Number three was 80% plant-based diet or greater.
                                         
                                         So there it is.
                                         
                                         And the key here is I tell people, like people like look just fresher foods and eat a
                                         
                                         lot of plants and move up the ladder um until you find a balance that works best for you now you
                                         
                                         might end up being you know at least gotta get at least 50 but what maybe it's 80 or 100 it just
                                         
                                         depends whatever makes you feel better do that so everything he's talking about is definitely stuff
                                         
                                         that we've been teaching and preaching over
                                         
                                         here i've been living it my lifestyle now for 12 years yeah and it works i mean i'm 49 years old
                                         
    
                                         and i'm literally running around the mountains for seven miles trail running like i could feel
                                         
                                         like a jackrabbit run around that's yeah and i just that's that's the way it is now and it's
                                         
                                         like it's part of my life and i look back when I was 42 pounds overweight and rectal bleeding and gastrointestinal issues and pooping rocks and blood.
                                         
                                         And it's like I am very grateful.
                                         
                                         I do not want to go back into surgery again.
                                         
                                         So for those listening, don't wait.
                                         
                                         OK, don't wait till a wheel falls off like it happened for me.
                                         
                                         Let's get ahead of this.
                                         
    
                                         There's too many too much success out there leaving clues.
                                         
                                         My story, Tom Brady's story, the Shaolin monks, the, there's just people all over the blue zones.
                                         
                                         All we got to do is just kind of copy what everybody else is doing.
                                         
                                         We're probably going to get similar results.
                                         
                                         Yeah. I, you know, I, I've definitely been on a health journey.
                                         
                                         I would say the past few years, cause I love food.
                                         
                                         I love unhealthy food and you really do.
                                         
                                         And I can't really control myself once I get into it.
                                         
    
                                         So I need to force that discipline. But anyway,
                                         
                                         you know, I've taken away some main like tenants from that, that book.
                                         
                                         I think the other thing he talks about is hydration,
                                         
                                         which I never really thought about before. And he says that, you know,
                                         
                                         about is hydration, which I never really thought about before. And he says that, you know, you need to drink in, in, in ounces, like half of your body weight. So if you weigh, let's just say 200 pounds,
                                         
                                         you need to drink a hundred ounces a day of water. And that's a lot of water, you know, but you did,
                                         
                                         you know, that's what your body needs, he says, and he does it with electrolytes, which is
                                         
                                         interesting. And so I think, yeah. And then the other two things that
                                         
    
                                         I've learned about, you know, is meditation, you know, just your mental health and setting aside
                                         
                                         time for that each day. And then the other thing I've learned about, which I'm just curious,
                                         
                                         take home on these things too, is I did this thing with a nutritionist where they took like a blood
                                         
                                         chemistry profile. And then they looked at my blood and said
                                         
                                         these are like the like the the vitamins or things that are like missing from your blood or that
                                         
                                         could be better i guess so now i'm like taking like zinc and vitamin k and vitamin d and like
                                         
                                         all this stuff you know so i'm interested in your your your take on that on those things i just
                                         
                                         mentioned absolutely well you know if we were eating like wild creatures and we were out there
                                         
    
                                         getting our 300 plus different varieties of food sources which is not happening nowadays we're
                                         
                                         getting about 52 and a lot of them are processed i mean think about the average person's consuming
                                         
                                         the same 14 meals over and over and over and over and over again what are we gonna get tonight all
                                         
                                         this lasagna pizza it's like's like stroganoff or whatever.
                                         
                                         So it's kind of the same thing.
                                         
                                         Hamburgers, hot dogs, salads, I guess, are in there.
                                         
                                         But as far as the blood profiling goes,
                                         
                                         we have to be very careful with that today
                                         
    
                                         because depending on the test that you did,
                                         
                                         I can't remember exactly which one it was,
                                         
                                         but I think it was vitamin
                                         
                                         i think it was vitamin d they were looking for and almost everybody is going to that takes that
                                         
                                         test it's a medical test like literally you're going to be vitamin d deficient right the reason
                                         
                                         why is not because 70 of us are it's because they're looking for the synthetic version of
                                         
                                         vitamin d that's how weird and corrupted is so of course you're going to be deficient so then
                                         
                                         they send you down to sell you the synthetic version of vitamin d which is a shadow of an
                                         
    
                                         offshoot of reality in the real world so you want naturally occurring vitamin d right so like in our
                                         
                                         we have a product called v-stack and it has has vitamin A in it, vitamin D3, and that's from lichen, which is the, you know, best source.
                                         
                                         And the vitamin C is actually from camu camu berry.
                                         
                                         And the zinc that we have is actually chelated, so it's not like just a rock mineral.
                                         
                                         It's more assimilable by the body.
                                         
                                         So it's stuff like that you have to the supplement industry is really corrupted um or they just are very uneducated because i've met plenty of supplement company
                                         
                                         owners that are have good hearts good intentions but they just don't have a clue about formulation
                                         
                                         and even if they do have a clue about formulation when they send it off to the manufacturing labs
                                         
    
                                         they're putting things in like you might want to check these out man look at looking for these
                                         
                                         things in your supplements if you see magnesium stearate or silicon dioxide or dicalcium phosphate then you're basically
                                         
                                         putting cat poop in a brownie recipe it doesn't matter how good your brownies are or these
                                         
                                         supplements you're putting toxins in them so if you go to our website at chemicalfreebody.com
                                         
                                         and look at almost any of our labels you'll see in big red right by other ingredients
                                         
                                         in red no magnesium stearate no silicon dioxide no dicalcium phosphate because we're trying to
                                         
                                         educate people to stop eating that stuff right it doesn't matter how good a formula is it's like
                                         
                                         why would you do that like there's no way like if you know um i was drinking a glass of water and
                                         
    
                                         it had a drop of gasoline in it versus the
                                         
                                         one that was just pure water which one you're going to eat you're going well you're going to
                                         
                                         drink the one with no gasoline in it so why would we take supplements with a level three toxin on
                                         
                                         the epa's toxin list just it's okay but it's a little bit you see what i'm saying it's just kind
                                         
                                         of weird so um and here's the problem is that you might take these supplements and they, you might feel an effect, right? So that could come from many different ways that could come from, uh, probably the most diabolical one is they'll, they'll, they'll, what's called micronized 10% or so, uh, 5% or 2% of the formula.
                                         
                                         hyper absorbable. So it goes, it literally rapes the cell and goes right into your cell because it's so tiny. It's like nanoparticles and it goes right in and you feel it. So you think, wow,
                                         
                                         this is really working because it gave you this feeling, but it's like, you just, you got,
                                         
                                         your cell got raped by a synthetic, right? So that's not cool at all. Um, the other thing could
                                         
    
                                         be is that maybe it's got some good stuff in it. Maybe it's got some reishi and chaga and mushrooms
                                         
                                         and some good probiotics and maybe some good nutrients in there maybe a little wheat
                                         
                                         grass powder but then it's got half synthetics like vitamin c as an example it'll say in
                                         
                                         parentheses behind it ascorbic acid if you see ascorbic acid in parentheses behind vitamin c
                                         
                                         you're consuming a synthetic and most people don't know because they read the other stuff oh it's
                                         
                                         vitamin c's in there okay that's good because have to, it's almost like you have to
                                         
                                         be Sherlock Holmes, NASA scientists today to navigate labels. We just try to simplify this
                                         
                                         stuff for people, man, because it's like, once you have a basic understanding of how to read a label,
                                         
    
                                         you're much better. And another rule of thumb is just don't buy, don't buy supplements literally
                                         
                                         through grocery stores
                                         
                                         i mean there's very few that i would buy through a grocery store especially the bigger the chains
                                         
                                         and the more commercialized the bigger the corporations it's just safer to stay away from
                                         
                                         them you better go to like small little ma and pop places that have and but you still have to
                                         
                                         read the labels but online is probably one of the better choices and i've had people for years
                                         
                                         trying to get me to put my stuff in stores i mean mean, I've let a couple of places do it because
                                         
                                         I know them, but we usually just sell retail direct to the client. So anyway, I agree with
                                         
    
                                         the water. We train, we teach the exact same thing. We teach 80% plant-based diet. We do band
                                         
                                         exercises. It's the same thing. We definitely talk about stretching, fascia and ligaments and that kind of stuff. And, you know, it,
                                         
                                         you don't have to look far for the results.
                                         
                                         So you can see what Tom's results are. You can see what my results are. Um,
                                         
                                         I have a whole bunch of people behind me with, you know,
                                         
                                         doing the same thing and they're getting the similar results too.
                                         
                                         Cool.
                                         
                                         So I think you're on the right path, brother.
                                         
    
                                         Thank you. Thank you for your insight.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, for sure. Thank you for your insight.
                                         
                                         Yeah, for sure.
                                         
                                         So I can tell you that one of the things that Tim said on, I bet it was probably maybe eight or ten episodes ago.
                                         
                                         And, of course, I get to be on this podcast and I get to hear all the different things that he reinforces.
                                         
                                         We talk about water and, of course, what kind of water.
                                         
                                         And that's why I just showed you my glass jar because I'm drinking out of glass,
                                         
                                         not out of plastic.
                                         
    
                                         Go on and on.
                                         
                                         You can listen to any of the other podcasts just on that section,
                                         
                                         and that's the common theme. But one of the things that Tim said that, for me, was really telling,
                                         
                                         because, look, we're busy.
                                         
                                         We have our day-to-day. We have, look, we're busy. We do have our day to day.
                                         
                                         We have our family. We're, you know, we're working, you know, the standard American diet, the sad diet, as we call it.
                                         
                                         Right. You get so wrapped up into that. And and he was talking to one of one of the guests that was on here.
                                         
                                         And, you know, financial advisor asking some of these things. And Tim said, you have to make your health a priority.
                                         
    
                                         Tim said, you have to make your health a priority.
                                         
                                         And I never thought about it like that, right?
                                         
                                         Like, it has to be a priority.
                                         
                                         And when I started thinking myself, like, my health is a priority,
                                         
                                         things started changing internally for me, right? Like, the type of water I drink, that was one thing.
                                         
                                         Exercising.
                                         
                                         And one of the things that Tim turned me on to
                                         
                                         was that sauna. And we talked pre-show, maybe even early on in the show, Tim, we were talking
                                         
    
                                         about how I did the walk with my wife this morning. I got in that sauna, 12-minute sauna.
                                         
                                         It's a single-person sauna that I now swear by. This isn't a hard sell at all. By the way,
                                         
                                         this is what taking your own health as a priority did.
                                         
                                         Investing into your own health as a priority for me was critical because I have a family.
                                         
                                         I want to be around a long time. My wife is six and a half years younger than me, right? So I'm
                                         
                                         already actually not going to outlive her anyway, Right. So I started taking that as a priority. I just wanted to impart that on you, Ben, that it was impactful for me.
                                         
                                         When Tim said, you know, to that one guest, you know, you've got to make your health a priority.
                                         
                                         And I really started thinking about that, like, yeah, I don't make it a priority.
                                         
    
                                         So so for me, that's why now I'm like, man, I could eat that or I could do that and I could take the easy way out. But then I remember, make your health a priority and that helps to give. And I mean, I fail from time to time, right? We all fall short on a lot of things, right? But anyway, I just wanted to share that with you, Ben, you know, because
                                         
                                         I'm a foodie myself. I love food. I can, you know, eat all kinds of stuff. But, you know,
                                         
                                         when you try to make your health a priority and you really start thinking about how impactful,
                                         
                                         important that is, you've got a family that depends on you. They count on you, right,
                                         
                                         for a myriad of different things, just like you count on your wife for certain things. And,
                                         
                                         you know, when we start making our own health a priority everything around us starts getting better yeah something else i wanted to share uh ben you mentioned that
                                         
                                         you you know i get it like you you like junk crappy foods and you just go off the rick and
                                         
                                         just like garfield right eat them all the reason why that reason why that's happening, there's multiple factors there.
                                         
    
                                         Sounds like you had a pretty good upbringing from your childhood.
                                         
                                         So it doesn't sound like there was like a lot of like getting beat up or mental abuse or physical abuse, that kind of stuff.
                                         
                                         But if we just look at it on a physical level, most of the time, there's a couple things going on.
                                         
                                         Number one, your immune system is dropped and there's these little critters, these harmful organisms that kind of get out of control.
                                         
                                         Because you've had antibiotics as an example, you've wiped out part of your
                                         
                                         bacterial immune system, the microbiome in your gut. So things like candida, which is a yeast
                                         
                                         overgrowth, they can literally hijack the vagus nerve, which is connection between your gut and
                                         
                                         your brain and like literally steer you to go eat like Haagen-Dazs or like a banana nut loaf at
                                         
    
                                         Starbucks. And parasites will want that too. So besides going through, we usually help people do
                                         
                                         those cleanses, but on the basis level, the simplest thing to start off with, we have two
                                         
                                         products that we get everybody on one. It's called gut detox. And you initially double down on it for
                                         
                                         15 days. And then you just take three a day for maintenance. And you drink that with our green
                                         
                                         formula twice a day. And that's going to replace the 85% of the nutrients been missing the soil.
                                         
                                         So what ends up happening is your cells are now going to get the 85% of the nutrients been missing the soil. So what ends up
                                         
                                         happening is your cells are now going to get what's missing in the food chain for you. And
                                         
                                         they're going to start sending signals to you that you're just not that hungry. So you'll notice on
                                         
    
                                         that program with just the gut detox and doing the greens twice a day that your grocery, well,
                                         
                                         you're, you're going to eat half as much. You just can't eat it anymore.
                                         
                                         And you're just like, how am I even living on this?
                                         
                                         I don't even eat that much.
                                         
                                         I used to think I had to do it.
                                         
                                         And it takes a little time, but within a week or two,
                                         
                                         you'll start actually craving the green formula.
                                         
                                         And it just makes it easier for you.
                                         
    
                                         And then you don't need that discipline and willpower
                                         
                                         because that's too hard of a road.
                                         
                                         You want to get to a point where it's just
                                         
                                         that's the way it is. You don't have the cravings anymore. So those are usually come from long-term
                                         
                                         nutrient deficiencies on a cellular level. And by using the gut detox to clean up the digestive
                                         
                                         tract so you can get maximum absorption of the greens as they go in through the intestinal lining,
                                         
                                         you'll notice a big difference. And your grocery bills probably drop a hundred bucks a month easy because you
                                         
                                         won't be able to eat as much. So that's something I would recommend.
                                         
    
                                         Cool. Thank you.
                                         
                                         All right. Awesome. Ben, do you have any other questions for my co-host?
                                         
                                         And you don't have to think of something. I promise. So, you know, these are,
                                         
                                         I mean, really, really great takeaways already um absolutely that he he shared with you and everything but but but if there was
                                         
                                         something pressing that you really wanted to know i please ask yeah i guess is the reformula kind of
                                         
                                         like the like the you know different vegetables and fruits like a powder form like the alkalizing
                                         
                                         kind of thing and water yes yeah it's highly concentrated like four to one six to one
                                         
                                         ten to one twenty to one juice concentrates of like wheatgrass uh spirulina um there's there's
                                         
    
                                         we even have dandelion leaf in there which is a top 10 adaptogenic um herb and you know acai berry
                                         
                                         um just a whole bunch of stuff there's actually vitamin d3 we added it during the whole covid
                                         
                                         thing just because i knew people were deficient but um it's it's it is really hard because when
                                         
                                         you when you do those higher concentrations on greens usually it tastes like pond scum it just
                                         
                                         doesn't taste that great right and we used to sell it straight up but we we found a way to put a
                                         
                                         little raspberry and monk fruit in there to kind of blend it so now it's just kind of like a light green tea most people have no problem with that if you if you are adverse
                                         
                                         to the taste your cells still need it and you if you don't like the taste then your body really
                                         
                                         really needs it that's a really big sign that you do need it you can mix lemon juice with it or lime
                                         
    
                                         juice fresh squeezed you could put it in unsweetened cranberry juice you can mix it with nut milks
                                         
                                         um those are some things that you
                                         
                                         can do as options just to get it in you. And then, like I said, after a while, just let it
                                         
                                         work its magic. And most people are so deficient. It's just like, it's almost like a cactus that
                                         
                                         was just about ready to die. And then the rains finally came and it comes back. That's how you're
                                         
                                         going to feel. Cause most people, their cells have just never, I mean, you're most people are
                                         
                                         operating on 15% fuel, if that. And
                                         
                                         when you can start having a hundred percent dropped in there, it's, it's a complete game
                                         
    
                                         changer. The coffee start going away, the five hour energy drinks, the monster drinks, those
                                         
                                         things just slowly fade off into the distance. You don't even have to quit them. They'll just
                                         
                                         kind of give you up because they will, they'll start making you not feel good when you take them.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Very interesting. I guess real quick,
                                         
                                         do you think people shouldn't drink coffee or caffeine? And also, um,
                                         
                                         I know it's just been like this revolution and like, it seems like at least in
                                         
                                         like, you know, marijuana and the future of like mushrooms being used now,
                                         
                                         I'm just curious if you have any thoughts on, on that in the future, you know,
                                         
    
                                         sure. Using that.
                                         
                                         Well, the, as far as coffee goes, most of the coffee out there is full of mold so people are just drinking this moldy substance and we've been working hard for 12 years over here to help
                                         
                                         people get mold out of themselves so if they were going to do coffee there's a company called life
                                         
                                         boost and they do shade grown coffee which coffee's supposed to be grown in the shade but what they do
                                         
                                         is they harvest it or they excuse me they whack down all the forests over there and they do shade grown coffee which coffee's supposed to be grown in the shade but what they do is they harvest it or they excuse me they whack down all the forests over there and
                                         
                                         they just start growing coffee beans out in the sunshine and for some reason that's causes mold
                                         
                                         um that one guy i can't remember his name dave asprey um built the whole company around that
                                         
                                         you know selling coffee for four or five times as much as regular coffee just because he was
                                         
    
                                         educating people that hey you're drinking mold, right? So you probably
                                         
                                         don't want to do that. So if you're going to do coffee, I would say go to a shade grown coffee
                                         
                                         that's more alkalizing and it's not processed with chemicals as well. And drink your greens
                                         
                                         first in the morning and then drink your acidic or less acidic coffee. Because the first thing
                                         
                                         after a night's sleep, you just don't want to throw acid into your body. You're, you know, you want to throw some water should be number one and then alkalizing
                                         
                                         greens and then maybe have a little bit of coffee and just kind of let it go that way. Now, as far
                                         
                                         as the marijuana stuff goes, you're talking about THC. I think that's actually a problem because
                                         
                                         through hybridization, it's so far concentrated. I mean, like you could take a puff of a joint today
                                         
    
                                         and be blasted off into space because it's like 28% THC, right?
                                         
                                         Now, there are certain circumstances where like Rick Simpson oils
                                         
                                         that could be helpful where it's in a tar oil form to help people with cancer
                                         
                                         and there's benefits there.
                                         
                                         But CBDs from the hemp plant is very powerful stuff.
                                         
                                         But you have to find good quality.
                                         
                                         Just buying CBD because it says CBD and it's probably marketing.
                                         
                                         So again, you're probably less than 5% of the companies out there that I would actually put in my body.
                                         
    
                                         But there's huge, huge benefits.
                                         
                                         We have these endocannabinoid receptors throughout our body, lots of them.
                                         
                                         So we're literally designed for it.
                                         
                                         And we've seen people heal up from like you know
                                         
                                         major injuries um in a third of the time like broken hands and arms we've seen people with
                                         
                                         torn achilles and stuff like that and people literally heal up in a third of the time if
                                         
                                         they're doing a really high quality cbd um along with you know eating better and we usually have
                                         
                                         them taking our other products too
                                         
    
                                         to clean them up and stuff.
                                         
                                         Then as far as mushrooms goes,
                                         
                                         man, major kick-assness with these mushrooms.
                                         
                                         There's people that are micro-dosing.
                                         
                                         There's people that are...
                                         
                                         We have a product called Multi-Shroom
                                         
                                         that has chaga, reishi, lion's mane,
                                         
                                         mitake, shiitake and a full
                                         
    
                                         complete fulvic humic acid so it's like multi mineral formula all in one and i built that one
                                         
                                         for me to have a different build of for a path of immunity i wanted to be able to boost my immune
                                         
                                         system with mushrooms but what we found out was is besides doing that it works great for people
                                         
                                         with anxiety and depression and the most common thing that we get besides doing that, it works great for people with anxiety and depression.
                                         
                                         And the most common thing that we get back from that is it gives me a wave of calmness when people take it.
                                         
                                         They just feel calmer.
                                         
                                         They feel more connected.
                                         
                                         And it really helps people with anxiety and depression, which was a major issue.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, depression is like the number one selling pharmaceutical drugs.
                                         
                                         So huge market out there for people.
                                         
                                         Shrooms are great.
                                         
                                         I still think people should eat them.
                                         
                                         It's a whole big discussion, but yeah, there's definitely,
                                         
                                         it's an emerging field, but it's going to be slow walk through, you know, mainstream, you know, clinical trials and all that stuff.
                                         
                                         So while everybody's waiting around for those clinical trials,
                                         
                                         if you would like to get ahead of the curve and be eating them and using them medicinally like people have been using for thousands and thousands of years, you can just, you know, meet somebody like myself or somebody who's doing it and just, again, copy and see how it works for you.
                                         
    
                                         And if you feel good, keep doing it.
                                         
                                         If you don't, then don't.
                                         
                                         You know, but definitely very mushrooms are a powerhouse out there, man.
                                         
                                         There's actually a movie called fantastic fungi.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Have you seen that?
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         That's a really good one.
                                         
                                         I need to get him on my show.
                                         
                                         Um, that, that's, that was, he's, he's a cool dude.
                                         
                                         He took it and ran with it obviously in a big way.
                                         
                                         So yeah, mushrooms are huge and we've seen a tremendous benefits for the people that
                                         
                                         are taking our multi-stream product.
                                         
                                         Cool.
                                         
                                         Well, thank you for your insight.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, man. Well, thanks for coming on today and sharing. Appreciate you.
                                         
                                         Yeah, for sure. And, and, and by the way, there's,
                                         
                                         there's plenty more where this came from and, and I will make sure that,
                                         
                                         you know, in a separate email or whatever,
                                         
                                         I'll send you some information on, you know, all of our guests, we do a discount for them. If they ever shop on chemical free body and
                                         
                                         everything, you just use the code enrichers or enricher, I think it plural or not, uh,
                                         
                                         that you'll get a discount on that, but I'll send you some information on that on the side.
                                         
                                         But, uh, anyway, Hey, enrichers speaking of you, thank you so much again for joining us for another
                                         
    
                                         episode of the health and Wealth Podcast.
                                         
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                                         Ben, thank you again so much for coming on the show.
                                         
                                         You were a great guest.
                                         
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                                         Thank you, guys. Appreciate the opportunity.
                                         
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