Heroes in Business - Charlie Beljan - Gratitude, Discipline, and the Power of Sobriety

Episode Date: August 19, 2023

Carter Wilcoxson and Tim James are joined by this week's guest, Charlie Beljan, Golfer at PGA Tour. In this episode, Charlie shares his inspiring journey from being a PGA Tour player to overcoming personal struggles with alcohol and mental health, leading to his transformation towards sobriety and well-being. Charlie is a PGA Tour Winner and won the US Junior Amateur in 2002.

Shut up and sit down. Welcome to the Health and Wealth Podcast with your hosts, Tim and Carter. What's trending, Enrichers? Carter Wilcoxon, founder of CSI Financial Group here, with my co-host and former Wealth Advisor, Tim James, founder of? ChemicalFreeBody.com and your new health advisor. This is the show where we reveal the connection between physical and financial abundance. Hey, welcome back, enrichers. Carter Wilcoxon coming to you live from

cooled down Phoenix, Arizona. And I got to tell you, I am so super stoked about this podcast today. I have been in anticipation of this for a few weeks now after we booked our guests. This is not a traditional guest that we have on today, so you're definitely going to want to stay. But before we bring in our guest, I want to go ahead and bring in my esteemed co-host, Mr. Chemical Free Body himself, Tim James. Timmy, how are you, buddy? Hey, doing great. Doing great, Carter. Happy to be here, Get another show under the belt and maybe just have a little bit different format. Things are going good over here in Eastern Oregon.

We dumped on last night. Last couple of days, we've had a lot of rain. So I guess that's good if you're an alfalfa farmer and you're growing alfalfa. But if you're a wheat farmer, that might be a problem because they're right in the middle of harvest right now. So here's what it is. Most of the wheat's genetically modified and sprayed and tilled, so it doesn't really matter. It'd probably be better for the human race if it all got messed up

and they just had to get their crop insurance and get paid that way so they don't have to release it onto the market and screw up everybody's gut. It's unfortunate because the people that are working here doing these fields are hardworking, good, decent folks. They just don't know what they don't know.

But that's what we're here for. We're here to bring awareness to people and tap people into their consciousness so they can start making different buying decisions with their money that they make every month. And make different decisions in their life so they can have health and wealth. That's what we're here for. Yeah, that's exactly right. Well, I'm pretty excited. I'm back at the grind again. I'm pretty excited. I'm back at the grind again. I've got some pretty big announcements that are coming up really soon with our business, with the Epic Services Company, with the strategic partner

that we have. Press release is coming out probably within the next week. In fact, by the time anybody is listening to this, it's probably already been released out there, but it's with one of the largest financial institutions in the country, if not the world. So I'm very excited about the partnership with that. But more importantly than that, I just got back from a little vacation because I've been grinding it like a madman, did three days at Disneyland with the kids and walked over 33 miles in three days, dude. It was crazy so but it was fun and then we spent four days sitting on the beach at uh you know uh in newport beach so that was nice cool awesome yeah well um as i mentioned at the top of the show enrichers uh you're in for a treat sit back and relax i want

to go ahead and bring in our guest today uh charlie belgin who is a former pga tour player pga tour winner uh and charlie and i actually go way back back whenever he was a junior golfer at ultimace a country club he and i connected on instagram and he made a post about basically saying uh you know without without your health, it doesn't matter how much wealth you have. Right. So I asked him, hey, you know, would you be open to coming out here and or being on the podcast? I say out here, he's out in Mesa. Are you in Mesa, Charlie? Yeah. Northeast Mesa. All right. Perfect. So he agreed to go ahead and be on the show. So, Charlie, thank you very much for joining us. And we're

really excited about, you know, getting a chance to hear a little bit more of your backstory. I know a little bit more about you and your health journey, and I want you to be able to share some of that stuff. But, you know, it really is a great pleasure to be able to have you on the show with us today. Well, I appreciate you guys having me on and I look forward to it. And when I saw it was the Health and Wealth Podcast, those are the two main things that I focus on in my life. So I thought no better fit than doing this with you guys. Yeah, so I do like to give a little bit of backstory and context to our guests and everything.

Do you mind sharing a little bit about your junior golf days and then eventually getting to the PGA Tour? Maybe we can even sharing a little bit about, you know, your junior golf days and then eventually, you know, getting to the PGA tour, maybe we can even talk a little bit about fairly well documented on some of the struggles that you're dealing with on the, on the health side of things with your one, uh, PGA tour went in. Yeah. So I was born and raised out here in Mesa, Arizona, where I still live. Uh, like you mentioned, grew up at Alta Mesa Country Club and then played junior golf around here.

Did pretty well for myself. Won the U.S. Junior Amateur, which gave me a pick to go to any college I wanted to. Went to the University of New Mexico for the Lobos. Played over there for four years and then got done there and grinded it out on the mini tours for about four or five years. But never got through Q school. And then in 2011, I got through Q school, got my tour card, won my rookie year. And then, you know, kind of everything went downhill for me after that. I wasn't mature enough to handle it. I didn't really know who I was, got mixed up in the booze and just went down a bad path where I started dealing with depression and anxiety and was taking medications.

Are you hanging out with John Daly? You know what? As a matter of fact, because I traveled in a bus, I parked with Daly every single week that he was there. Daly and I would, I've got videos of him washing his bus with a cigarette in his mouth and his girlfriend in a bikini scrubbing it. So I played the tour. I took a leave of absence in 2015 for some mental health stuff and then happened to run across a thing called Bitcoin. Have done really well in that. And all of a sudden I had a lot of time and some extra money and really went down the booze hole and got myself in a really bad situation. And now I'm 70 pounds lighter. I'm almost three years sober and my life is completely different and more amazing than I ever thought it

could be. Yeah. You know, I've, uh, I've gotten a chance to, you know, through Instagram, look, there's good things about social media too, right? Because you really get a sense of, especially if you're being a real person and you've been very transparent on your recovery and everything. And I got to tell you, it's inspirational. I mean, I think it's important for those listening that may be challenged with drugs, alcohol, food addiction, whatever that might be. If you can find someone that can inspire you, definitely take it upon yourself to listen to their story and listen to their journey. Why don't you share a little bit about how maybe what everybody says when you've been drinking and drugs and

alcohol, and I come from a dependent family. I mean, my dad's been in prison seven times and, you know, my, my brother's dealt with, you know, addiction and everything, you know, what was your rock bottom and what was it that maybe led you to start going down this three years now of sobriety? You know, I, uh, my mom was a massive alcoholic. She's about to celebrate her 23 years of sobriety, but growing up fighting with her screaming and yelling, um, telling myself I was never going to be like her. I was never going to have a drinking problem. And then all of a sudden I found myself right in the thick of things for me, rock bottom was, it was a Sedona open about three years ago coming up and uh the last round I

hit 18 greens and I had 14 three putts because my hands were shaking so bad from the booze and the anxiety and uh then I was taking Xanax to try to calm down the anxiety which if you do that while you're drinking enough booze you could end up like Whitney Houston or Heath Ledger. And, and, uh, I just, you know, I, I'd been running hard since I was probably like 15 years old. And somehow I was able to manage to play some of the best golf in my life and be one of the best players in the world. And, um, you know, along with, uh, the fame and the money just came more opportunities to party at different levels. And, you know, I had a son, I have a son 10 years old and what it finally came down to is I couldn't,

I didn't want my son to grow up watching me yelling at the TV, yelling at football games, gambling, screaming. I mean, I had people over, you know, four days a week and it was an open door and we just had a great time. And because of the golf, I had a lot of different influences from all different ranges from athletics to business to high profile people. And we were just, we were doing things that a lot of people will probably never get to experience. And I don't regret any of them. However, this path of sobriety for me has been just overwhelmingly filled with gratitude and love and just a whole new outlook on life. And like you said, I started sharing my story on Instagram. And what was amazing is the amount of people that really reached out and just said, hey, man, thanks for being authentic. Thanks

for sharing your story. I think like right now I probably mentor like 25 different people helping them get sober. You know, and I set guidelines. I'm like, don't tell me you're going to do it. And then we're not going to do it. And I'll have to cancel lunches on people or rounds of golf because they like, Hey man, I fell off the train. And I'm like, that's fine. But you know, you're, you're held accountable. Thank you for telling me, but you know, I'm not going to then reward you by going and playing golf with you. So I've learned so much, you know, you're held accountable. Thank you for telling me. But, you know, I'm not going to then reward you by going and playing golf with you. So I've learned so much. You know, the last three years has almost been like a new life for stuff because I happen to be really good at golf. And it just led me down a tough path. And I'm so lucky that, you know, rock bottom wasn't terrible. It was scary for me. A lot of other people have rock bottom and much worse places. But I got to like 280 pounds. I was unhealthy. I was gross. And I just made a change. And I woke up one morning

and said I was never going to have another drink. And everybody laughed at me. Funny story. I haven't smoked a cigarette in about six years ago or six years now, but I was hitting balls next to Tom Watson on the driving range. And he was giving me hell about smoking cigarettes. And I looked at my caddy and I said, you know what? I'm never going to have another cigarette again. And I never did. And I'm lucky that I have that on and off switch. But when it's on, I'm full tilt. And when it's off, it's totally gone. So I'm lucky to have that.

I haven't had any relapses or fallen back. It's just full steam ahead. And I'm grateful for that. But it's been a great journey. And I look forward to the upcoming months and weeks and years ahead. Yeah, well, I mean, I got to you, um, it's great to, you know, to see that and I know how much hard work that that really takes. Right. And I can understand and appreciate, you know, what it is that it takes. Um,

I mean, it's like anybody who wants to be fit and, you know, it's, it's a mindset, right? So, you know, um, why don't you share a little bit about, you know it's it's a mindset right so you know um why don't you share a little bit about you know the mindset that it takes for or what was the difference i mean you're 15 and i remember whenever you're 15 16 years old top junior golfer right i mean top golfer at ultimates country club right you know you had the muellers out there and you had uh rooks boys and everything you know i remember all that stuff but i always remember and i played golf with you on multiple occasions but for all i know you don't remember you might have been drinking when you were that

right right um so what was it you know what is the correlation or the connection when it comes to the mind with you know you're between how strong you are and how talented you are, how important the mind is more important maybe than the ability is. Well, I think the mind is, is way more important than the ability. I've got numerous friends that have much more ability than me, but they're weak minded. And I think that's what separates the guys. You know, it's such a fine line between when you get to a certain level at anything, everybody's got the ability. It's about the mindset. You know, if you talk about Tiger Woods, he used to, he didn't hit it down the middle of every fairway. He didn't hit it on every green. He was hitting it in the trees,

but that guy was so mentally tough from how his dad raised him that that's what separated him. If you look at the golfers now, you know, everybody hits it far, everybody putts it good, but it's just that fine line of that extra mental maturity and toughness and, and guts, um, that makes the difference. And I kind of, I took the discipline and that mindset from golf to making it, uh, you know, being disciplined and being sober, being disciplined and eating right, being disciplined and eating right, being disciplined and lifting weights and getting healthy. And I've just kind of taken that mindset that I learned from a young age in golf and how to be great and applied it to the rest of the things in my life. And I've just excelled beyond what I ever thought I could.

And the future is bright and I just can't wait to see where it takes me. I could. And the future is bright and I just can't wait to see where it takes me. Yeah, that's awesome. You know, I have a junior golfer in my midst also. And, you know, one of the things that I share with him on a regular basis, you know, he's 16 years old, right? He's been an underachiever. There's no doubt about it. I see the ability, but I can just see the challenges and the struggles that he has on the golf course earlier, you know, my dad who was a very hard worker had to become the breadwinner of his family when he was really young, like 14 years old. And, uh, you know, things happen in his own family and he worked and worked and worked and worked his way up. And then he got introduced to, um, to cocaine and that was the end of it basically for him. And, you know, it's so my biggest fear is that I have this son who has like all this talent and all this ability. And, you know, I'm trying to instill in him, you know, patience and understanding and, you know, to channel that all that anger that he's got into a positive way and everything.

But it does concern me that, you know, one wrong turn and, you know, that can lead you down a bad path. You know, that's all it takes is one wrong turn. And, you know, since I started sharing my stories, I've had a lot of companies fly me out to speak. Last week, I played the Arizona Open. I finished on Monday. I hopped a plane to Tahoe Monday night. I spoke to the top 70 juniors at a Junior's America Cup. You know, when I go speak to these kids, the first thing I tell them is, Hey, I was your age once. And I was also a lot better at golf than you. And I sat there and I, I looked at these guys, Tommy armor and Tim Aaron that would come in and speak. And I'd be like, what a waste of time. I, you know, I know more than these guys. So I,

I try to really make these kids understand that if you just listen to somebody that's been down that road and down that path, that not only is it going to save you a lot of time, but it's going to save you a lot of pain, you know? And I think you mentioned expectations. I think that that is what most people fail at in life. And that's why they are constantly let down and they don't succeed. I feel like people set these expectations that are so high and they continually miss and then they almost become defeated. When I decided I was going to lose the weight, now I'm down 70 pounds and I look like a linebacker. I didn't go on any crazy diets. A lot of people do these diets

where they last 30 or 60 days and yeah, you can lose 20 or 30 pounds, but it's not sustainable. So I try to teach these kids, hey, if you've got a scoring average of 74, don't set it at 68 because you're going to continually miss your expectations. And then you're going to get discouraged and then it's going to lead down a different path. And I think managing expectations in life is one of the most undervalued keys that can make you successful. undervalued keys that can make you successful? Well, I mean, that's, uh, I am so happy to hear you say, you know, some of that stuff and, you know, so it's a twofer, right? I'm a pretty decent golfer, right? I mean, single digit, right. Um, you know, two, three, four handicap. Uh, my son has, you know, he's surpassed me now right he's playing really good and you just as a parent right so i'm a parent but i'm also a good golfer and it's like i'm torn between all these things

you said you got a son 10 right yeah so um you know you hit these teenage years you remember what it was like when you're a teenager oh Oh yeah. So you're trying to remember these things. And then you think, you know, golf in and of itself is already a mind fuck if you will, anyway. Right. And then now you're dealing with testosterone and you're getting your, and you've got all this stuff.

And it's like, I have to have to keep, you know, reminding myself like, Hey, he's playing a game that is already mentally challenging. He's dealing with puberty. He's grown 18 inches in the last, you know, two and a half years.

You know, he still continues to grow. You know, you've got to have some patience with him. But, you know, at the same time, you're a parent and you want him to succeed. And all these things are, you know, happening simultaneously. And, you know, I just wanted to kind of get a little bit of your, you know, feedback, some of the things maybe that you do talk with juniors as you're also a parent to a child as well. Yeah. You know, my boy's 10. He doesn't play any golf. People freak out when I tell them that they're like, how is he not taking lessons or playing tournaments? I'm like, well, he's 10 years old and he doesn't want to, he doesn't have any buddies that do it. But you know, when I go to, when I go talk to these kids or adults or whatever,

whether it's about golf or life, um, for me, especially with the kids, you know, everybody swings at a different way, but the right mental approach, going back to managing your expectations and course management and, you know, weighing risk versus reward. I think that those are the things that can really separate players from an early age. And the hard thing is, is a lot of those kids, 16, 17, they don't want to hear it. They want to go swing for the fences. And the next thing you know, they shoot 77 because they hit a few balls out of bounds because they have an ego that gets in the way. And I think that the faster you can help these kids understand and mature mentally, which is so difficult. I mean, I've spent numerous hours with Dr. Bob

Rotella and many other sports psychologists trying to get to the point where I am now. And I wish I would have got here earlier, but it's just golf is hard. Life is hard. It's not all roses and sunflowers along the way. And especially in golf every week, you know, there's 156 player field. There's only one guy that's a winner. So everybody's a loser other than that one guy. But if you manage those expectations and you're going into a tournament saying, Hey, a top 30 is a legitimate good finish for me. And you get to that point, you should feel good about yourself. You know, and that's the thing is, not only in golf and life,

but I feel like you've got to constantly be meeting expectations in order to build confidence and build yourself up and give yourself that little extra confidence that makes the difference. You look at, you know, you look at guys on tour, they go on stretches four or five weeks in a row that they play well uh going back to my rookie year i sat down having breakfast didn't know anybody a guy named steve jones sits down next to me won the u.s open he looked right at me and he said kid he

goes i'm going to tell you one thing right now and i don't even know you he goes if you think you're going to be like a tiger woods or dust or Dustin Johnson or any of these guys that plays well every week, you better rethink your life. He says, you're going to play well about four or five weeks out of the year. The majority of guys on tour make their money, 80% of their money and 20% of their events. And I thought to myself, who is this guy? He didn't have a clue what he's talking about. Well, six years, six full years later on tour, I played well four or five weeks a year and that's how I made my living, you know? So then not only are you, you're only enjoying four or five weeks a year while you're getting beat up 20 or 25. So you're constantly having to grind and find different ways in order just to keep yourself at a flat line,

you know, because otherwise that roller coaster is head south often and quick. And if, if you don't know how to stop that in life and golf and whatever it is you're doing, whether it's alcohol, anything like that, things can get carried away quick. Yeah. Well, Tim, you know, we, we talk about ego a lot, don't we? And how ego can really affect, you know, what it looks like and how open you can be towards certain things. Right. It is not your friend. That is for sure. Yeah. No, let's do this. We're going to, we got to take a quick break. We'll get back and I want to get into more of a early has been doing just helping kids. I think that's a really important thing on and paying it,

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Very passionate, yeah. Yeah, it's awesome because you can relate and you can help them. Cause this is something that's really missing today. Cause I've noticed this, like, you know, adults get into a career, they, they do their career, whatever, at whatever level they want. And then they get done and hit this retirement age. And then they sit around on their thumbs for a couple years and they clean up the house and they go play golf and they travel. And then they get bored as hell. Um, and then and then they die you know and so this is what's happening right now and on the way out uh alzheimer's dementia memory loss is is taking hold big time in this country uh cancer

heart attacks all this stuff is on the rise copd diabetes blah blah blah blah blah so all this stuff is happening people are losing their minds and this is like part of the fabric of our society is getting torn apart the nuclear families are being torn apart literally from the inside out and um you know when i've studied longevity and stuff around the world there's these things called blue zones we've talked about them before i don't know if you've heard about these but these are the places around the world where has the highest demographic of centurions so the people that live the longest on this planet there's like okinawa japan uh loma linda california mostly seventh-day adventists uh down there um coasters sardinia places in costa rica just different places around the world and there was four common denominators the number one

thing why people live the longest was lifelong friends right and then number two was respecting elders and so this third piece just i'll give the four the third one was 80 plant-based diet or greater and then number four was um they move their body every day so those were the four common denominators of people that live longest but that second one would be the first one um was respecting your elders and it's like now what's happening to our elders is their their health is so their mental clarity it's all gone it's being destroyed and they're thrown into nursing homes people can't handle taking care of full-grown adults and stuff like it's too it's hard i've seen the dimension all this stuff so's, what's really upsetting is that those older people are there as part of the tribe and they're part of that glue. And they're the ones that are educating the children with their stories. Right. And everybody loves grandma and

grandpa. Like I love my grandma and grandpa. And I was probably more open to my grandma and grandpa and listen to them than my parents. Cause my parents tell me what to do. And I want to listen, you know, especially when you get to those teenage years, right? So grandma and grandpa weren't there to tell you what to do. They were there to love on you and tell you stories and share and educate people. And I think that's why you're enjoying going around and doing this. You made a statement earlier about, you know, helping the kids out. And I was thinking of a wise man learns from others' mistakes, fools from their own. That's what it was. A wise man learns from others, mistakes, fools from your own. And so that I thought of that statement,

you're like, look, I've already been where you've been. I'm better in golf than you were. And it's like, you need to listen to me. Like I'm not, let me save you the time and the pain. Yeah. Save you the time and the pain. And then, you know, it's a very powerful message because drugs are, I, I just don't see like any good happening from drugs. I've, I've coached over 600 people. I've done thousands of health history intakes going through people's issues and their problems. And like, dude, like 50% of people have been molested by family members. It's crazy.

I mean, let that sink in. Now people are like paying more attention. I'm like, more attention i'm like look i'm telling you i know what's going on i've talked to the thread the fabric of america and about half these people are being molested by somebody and family members are in there too and then that movie sound of freedom came out recently and it's like now people are kind of waking up it's like like two million children are being abducted every year it's like they're just disappearing like into the ether and it's like have you guys seen that show yes i haven't seen it yet yeah i took my son he's like well i don't know if i want to go in afterwards he's like dad

thank you so much he's 20 he's like thank you so much for taking me there and we we i mean i'm i'm just like i've known about this stuff I work with vets for child rescue. I donate to them every year. Uh, Craig Sawyer put a movie out called Contra land that kind of explains all the same stuff, but it just never got out there. Um, this one did. Um, and, um, you know, I'm just like, it, it really, my son was like really motivated to, um, he's like, wow, there really are selfless people out there still.

And he wasn't believing that there really was that many left because of the view that he's getting from television and social media and all this bullshit. It's like, so it was a very profound thing. And I think that's why it's so important that adults, um, before we lose our brains and if we get healthy, we never will. Um, we can get out there and we got to give back. It's necessary. It's very necessary. These kids need us because I mean, otherwise you're, you know, our life expectancy right now is dropping or so right now our children are dying younger than us and grandchildren will die younger than us. Us adults, we have failed. We've been, we've gotten fat and lazy. We've sat back and

we have let other people, you know, dictate policy and the school systems went to shit. Other people dictate policy and the school systems went to shit. Oh, the school systems. It's pathetic. It really is pathetic. And it's like the blame is like in the mirror. It's like when working class people stopped uniting and stopped striking and protesting peacefully and just demanding, then we've lost everything. We've lost all the gains that people fought for.

And I was just listening to Dr. Shiva the other day. runs truth freedom and health it's a it's a movement of working class people to you know learn engineering system sciences of how you win um and there's there's ways of doing it and he was saying that that you know in 1776 when we fought and got our freedom it wasn't until 13 years later that the freedom piece actually kicked in because there was like 13 years of like still in kind of war area and there's this pushback where the people that you know the british uh the folks the blue bloods and stuff that lost that britain's lost they didn't just say we're done we're out of here they kept fighting it was it was 13 more years of struggle before that that freedom happened and And then we've talked about it before. And then they worked their way back

into politics and big business. And there was a new form of slavery in the industrial revolution where children were in the workplace. They were working 12, 15, 16 hour days, slave wages. And then the American public started pushing back again. And they started these robust bottoms up movements to push back and that's what got our infrastructure and cleaned up the water which in the dead horses and cows out of the water system and got you know the sanitation worker in there and the plumber cleaned up the streets of the urine and the feces and and then 98 of infectious diseases were gone because of that cleanup not because of big pharma um you know, making a synthetic pill. And like,

I think it was 1964, the measles vaccine came out, yet 98% or 1948, 98% of the measles was gone because of the infrastructure put together by working class people saying enough is enough. And so it's really important that working class people give back and do what you do. And like, you have to get out there and help people. And so does Carter. And so do I, because we're out of the matrix. Yes. We can see clearly, we can articulate and we have platforms like Carter runs successful

businesses and he has platforms. I have platforms. I have, uh, you know, a team and I've got a reach and, uh, a couple of pod. I do podcast shows all the time. You have your golf status and your ability to reach out and connect with people and help youth in your field and stuff like that. So all these talents, I'm speaking to the listeners out there. It's like, if you have any talent at all, which everybody does, you have something special. You need to get out and manifest that. You need to follow your excitement and your joy, and you need to give back. You need

to, it's learn, teach, serve, learn, teach, serve. You have to learn things, you teach it, and then you get out in public boots on the ground and serve. That's very important. So anyway, I want to tell that big story because it's like so important in what you're doing. It's a selfless act. You're not doing it for money. Are you getting paid to talk to these schools? I'm not. They'll pay for my travel, but no. Yeah. Yeah. Which is great. Yeah, exactly. So you do it because you want to. And, you know, you know, it probably could be easier for you to go fishing and be easier to go fishing or go hang out with your buddies. And, you know, now you'd have a lemonade. You wouldn't have any beer or nothing. So did you notice when you are now switching topics and carter did you want

to comment on any of this stuff i just no i just think it is so seriously important you know the influence you know that that charlie has i just i i was so excited about you being on the podcast charlie because i wanted you to be able to share your story and the fact that, you know, you are trying to give back. And but not in a way like like you didn't have any experience or, you know, success at a level in the biggest problem. And you just you tell me I was going to ask you, what type of reception do you get when you're talking to these kids? You're like, Hey, look, I was way better than you did. I mean, are they receptive toward that? Or because you know, the hardest thing for anybody, especially if you're a teenage kid, right? 14, 15, 16, you know, everything already, right? Absolutely. I say it to my wife all the time. My son is amazing. He knows everything and nothing simultaneously.

Isn't that the truth? Yeah. You know, normally like, like last week when I went to Tahoe and spoke to these kids, I always try to hit them with something that's going to shock them. Like I said, boys, why don't you guys look around and there's probably only one or two of you that are ever going to play golf for a living in here. And, uh, and then that kind of grabs their attention. But afterwards, um, whether the kids come up on their own, or their coaches make them come up, they come up, they're very grateful. A small percentage of them will ask a few more questions. And you know, my speech ended at 630 last week, I was there till nine o'clock answering questions. But that was only for, you know, six,

seven, eight of the kids, not 80 of them. You know, the other ones, they're gone. They're on their phone. And I think, well, the phones have turned into just a nightmare and back to parenting. And, you know, a lot of these parents now just give them the tablet, tell them to go sit in their room, and then that's all they do. And then gosh knows what kind of information they find out on their own. But you can kind of tell, you know, when you hit home with one of these kids, you can tell in their. But you can kind of tell, you know, when you hit home with one of these kids, you can tell in their eyes and then they kind of get a little excited. And as a matter of fact, I just had a kid that I met last week in the Arizona Open. He said,

hey, I got the Arizona Amateur coming up this week. I think you could really help me. So I went out and played with him at Ancala this week and we had three and a half hours to ourself. He asked a million questions. Now I'm scrolling the leaderboard, checking how he's doing, because I want to send him a text, you know, tell him, hey, great plan, or hey, what went wrong? What can we work on? And so if you are, I'm more than happy to take my time and my energy to share my story and help out, but I'm not going to really go above and beyond that. I'll put myself out there, but boy, if you ask a question or you reach back out, I will go to the ends of the earth to do whatever I can to give you the information that I think will help benefit you. Yeah. And you speak,

you come from a point of experience too. And it was a point like, like you've been there, done that, that whole, like, Hey, you've been there, done that. Yeah. Bought the t-shirt. Yeah. That's, I mean, that's Charlie Belgian, right? So, you like, hey, been there, done that. Yeah. Bought the T-shirt. Yeah. That's I mean, that's Charlie Belgian. Right. So, you know, I know that we're getting we're coming up against the clock here. But then I got a question for Charlie. So knowing what you know now and I know you can't go back and well, that's a spiritual question. But the past doesn't exist and neither does the future.

And all we have is the present moment. But let's say you had the ability to do this and you could go back through and not do any drugs and you were really into health. What do you think that would have done differently in your career as a golfer? Well, I don't know what it would have done differently, but I can tell you I am going to go give it another whirl. I'm going to go back to Q school this year and try to get my card back because I am very intrigued and interested to see. I played against the best players in the world as a massive alcoholic and did myself an extreme disservice. And I hated the travel. I hated being away from my son. Well, now I've been home for

five years. I've gotten my life figured out. And luckily in golf, our windows are big. I mean, I'm 38 years old. I could go, you know, I could wait for the senior tour when I'm 50, but there's so much life between now and 50 that I'm really interested to see what I can do being sober and being healthy. I mean, just the way my body moves now and doesn't ache and it doesn't hurt and the clarity in my brain because I eat right and I take a couple different vitamins. When I look back, boy, I think the highest I got to was 52nd in the world. And that was drinking 15 or 20 beers a night before I was playing against these guys, man. Yeah, exactly. And you know, out till three in the

morning and on the tee box at seven and still half cashed. And so now I'm really excited and I've put my focus and my energy to doing that. And I'm really excited because if I can get back out there to be able to have that platform to share my story and to help so many others is, you know, I 50% want to do it for me and to see what I'm capable of. And the other 50%, I want to do it because I really feel that I could help so many more people, especially in the sports world, in the general population, mental health is so terrible right now for so many people. And I've been at that level. I've sat there with a gun in my lap and I've, in college, I took a bunch of painkillers trying to do it. I've been there, I've done that. And I don't want anybody to have to go through that. And if I could help one person

avoid that nasty spiral and black hole that you go down, man, it would be worth every bit of work and effort and hours and time and energy that I got to put into it. Yeah, that's awesome. I'm actually really excited right now for you. I want to help you. We should talk afterwards after this thing's done. Um, I, we should talk afterwards after this thing's done. I'd like to be a part of your comeback to help you rank higher than you ranked before. And, um, and be able to tell that story and put it out.

So I've got another guy right now. Who's, um, he's in his forties and he's going to start training again for full tilt MMA because he's one of, he's a friend of mine and he's, he's a badass. And he was a state champion, Texas wrestler in high school. He's a former Marine special forces and mma fighter and then he got into just making money and raising kids and i was like you know what because i think i'm gonna get a belt when i'm 50 and this is a guy that like you don't i mean i i feel like i'm pretty tough but the most i just i'll run like i see him i'm like i'm just gonna take my chances and run as fast as I can. Hope this bitch don't catch me. Yeah. Right. Because it's crazy. I've because I started doing jujitsu a couple of months ago and he just we're just hand fighting while we're waiting in the line at the fair. And I'm just like, oh, like this guy could break your arm like a nanosecond type.

Right. Without any with no effort. So but the point is, like, I love helping. There's a major league baseball player that i coach right now and he's uh from injuries and he's coming back and he's just blowing gas and mowing everybody down and and um i like i'm really like the comeback kid i love being part of those stories my favorite quote that i read is that i'm starting over but i'm starting over with experience and that puts me so far ahead of anybody else that's just starting fresh in these kids. I'm starting over, but I'm starting with experience. And I think that that is invaluable. Yeah. And then when you get older, you just start shedding the ego too. And you're just like,

you know, you're, you're finding you're tapping more into your purpose. So it becomes bigger than just like, Oh, I'm going to go out and I'm going to win and make a bunch of money and all this. And it's like, Oh, look at me. And it's like, you don't give a shit about that stuff anymore. It's like, I've been, uh, I used to have a monster ego for many reasons, but these last three years I've never been so humbled, but I've also never felt such peace in my life. And it's weird how those two coincide and you get rid of that ego, the peace, the enjoyment. Um, so I've, I've got so many wonderful things ahead of me that I'm looking forward to and excited about. That's awesome. So you've tapped into unconditional love, which is our true nature. That is a very special thing. It's happening. It's popping like popcorn over the world right now is, uh, we have a lot of struggle out there. So it's good to see

that things are changing. Um, I've seen that all over the world, uh is we have a lot of struggle out there. So it's good to see that things are changing. I've seen that all over the world, places that I've been, especially even over here in Eastern Oregon, like the amount of awareness that's happening. People are, there's a shift happening. So I want to thank you for loving yourself and doing what you're doing. I know that we still have another set session, but I'm just really proud of you. All right. So what we're going to do is we're going to take another break. When we get back, we'll wrap up with our guest, Charlie Belgian and we will be right back. You want the absolute best for yourself and you want it to be easy. That's why we created green 85. It helps with detoxifying the body gently.

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All right, Charlie, this is the section where we typically flip the script. So we're going to do it again. You're getting, and you get to ask me any question about anything health related that comes to your mind. Go ahead. As I've said earlier, I've lost a bunch of weight. I literally, I spend three hours in the gym a day. I lift for an hour. I walk for an hour. I stretch in sauna for an hour every day, eight to 11, nothing gets in the way of that. Going to the diet earlier, you said, when you're talking about the, the blue zone of places where people live the longest, you brought up a plant-based diet and there's so much controversy right now and argument are arguing about plant based versus meat eaters. And I'm just wondering why you would say plant based and what is the benefits of plant based over eating meat and steak?

Like every meal I have chicken or steak and I couldn't imagine not having that. And then you go plant based and you think back to ancestors, and they ate a little bit of everything. Not all this processed GMO garbage that we eat now. And so I'm wondering, are you a total plant-based guy, or do you do a little bit of both? And if you are totally plant-based, why? Great question, man. Easy question, but I'll give you a big answer. So what I was citing was just data that had been gathered from the blue zones, the people that live the longest, they had

80% plant-based diet or greater, which means they at least 80% plant material by weight and 20% was meat. Okay. So that's what it was. It's 80, it it was 80 20 or greater some some of them ate more like the seventh day adventist out of loma linda they're completely plant-based okay well they say they are because i know i know some of them they're not they're they're not following along right so it's like with a lot of religions they don't follow along all the way sometimes right but whatever okay i guess that's part of the human is. So with that said, I mean, the deal of it is, is like there's a preponderance of evidence out there. Like there's there's something called the China study. The China study was the largest gathering of information and data on human beings on nutrition in the history of the world.

It'll probably never happen again. So the emperor of China, I can't remember what the dude's name was but he was dying of cancer and so he literally commissioned 600 000 chinese workers to gather data and try to save his own life so he had over a half a bill almost half a billion people working for him trying to figure this out and they're going to all the provinces and they're they're finding out what everybody's eating and categorizing herbs and all this kind of stuff and they brought it back and it all led to you know more and again for those of you that listening stick around don't hang up if i'm not trying to tell you you got to put meat away forever okay i'm just relaying the story but i'm building a foundation here right and so because i eat a little bit of meat from time to time now too so it's not a big deal all right so they they did all this research and um well the guy ends up finally dying because

they couldn't figure it out ahead enough time or whatever but what the chinese population did before mcdonald's headed over there and started creating obesity and stuff is they ate almost all plants and the key is is that it's fresh food, right? And then they used meat as a little bit, but it's more as flavoring, okay? So again, it was like more of plants and stuff like that. There's also other things that you'll see in some of these movies like Forks Over Knives where wartime would happen and the soldiers would come in

and people would scurry from their houses. They would take all their poultry, their chickens, their lambs, all the stuff and their cows and just take them and they would eat them themselves or use them or whatever.bs all the stuff and their cows and just take them and they would eat them themselves or use them or whatever and so the the peasants that were living there the people in these lands the common citizens they were forced to live off the land and eat plants and what was interesting is as that happened um all their their heart disease their cancer rates all this stuff just dropped and And then when they, when the meat, the animals came

back, all their disease rates went back up. So I could keep building a case to eat plants. But what I, what I teach people now in my coaching program is not like I used to be the food Nazi. I don't do that anymore. We work on the foundation first. And the foundation is, is things that are, it's even before diet. It's like, we have to detox your digestive tract. We have to clean up your digestive tract, like literally. And we have to clean up your cells and we have to clean up your fat and your muscle tissue. And your fat tissue also includes the glial cells in your brain.

We have to clean this shit up because you have bioaccumulated these toxins in your lifetime and there's no way around it. All the umbilical cord studies show that every child being born has hundreds of cancer causing chemicals in the womb. Now you and I are been around the earth a lot longer. We've had more time to bioaccumulate these toxins. There's more of them in us. These are breaking down our immune system. They're impeding recovery and power and energy and strength and vitality. So we have to,

our first job is cleaning up the mess and then neutrifying the body and reducing stress. It's a three-prong approach. It works every freaking time with everybody at some level. I don't promise people complete full recoveries, even though we've seen all that kind of stuff. I'm not a doctor. I don't claim to be, but I understand how nature works and how the body works and our bodies are nature, right? So when I'm working with somebody and they come in like, well, what are you going to, what am I going to eat? What am I going to eat? I'm like, don't worry about that right now. We're going to get the foundation in place first. Now let's say the foundation's in place and you're like, Tim, what do I eat? Okay. What we're going to do is we're going to work on your diet, your lifestyle

and find out what works for Charlie because everybody is different. Okay. There are some people that they're so toxic and they have so much crap in their body and they're so long term nutrient deficiencies. And I can't tell you how many times with long term nutrient deficiencies and stress and pollution. This is where pet allergies, seasonal allergies, food allergies come from. Now, there's a small group of people that the food allergies are so pervasive that the only things they can eat right now are clean meat. Right. Because of the any vegetables, it's going to F them up. It's just going to do that. So in those situations, if that's what works for you now, then you need to do that. But we can work on it and modify it because you have to understand that, you know, if you look back for the entirety of time we walked on this planet, we were eating, you know, take away, you know, guns and bow and arrows and all that stuff.

I mean, it's like go out in nature and try to catch an animal. It ain't easy. They're faster than you. They can see better than you. They can hear better than you. They can smell better than you. And they want to get the hell out of there or they're going to eat you. Some of them will.

Right. So go out and try to do that. It's not that easy. So most of your time you're going to be eating leaves and berries and roots and tubers. And just as an example, inside of our stomach, we have 25 bitter receptors, one sweet receptor. So inside of our stomach, 25 bitter receptors and one sweet receptor. Using common sense, what does that tell us? Well, we should probably be eating bitters. We are programmed for these things. We have 25 of those receptors, so we should eat way more, 25 times more bitters than sweets. What are bitters? Arugula, kale, spinach, and certain, you know, leafy greens, dandelions and stuff like that. And dandelion is

one of the things we put in our, like I said, our green 85 product as an example. So bitters are very important. So we look at things as a fundamental level and a base level. I don't care about what people's theories are. There's a lot of marketing going on out there. A lot of marketing. People aren't aware of many of the things behind the scenes that's actually happened that I've been privy to from being in this industry now for 12 years and being like a Sherlock Holmes and trying to get to the truth of things. It's like the paleo diet. Do you guys know where that came from? things it's like the paleo diet do you guys know where that came from i don't that was marketed and funded and marketed by the cattlemen's association really it was a marketing plan

i like drink milk right yeah yeah michael jordan shaquille o'neal your milk mustache right drink your milk for strong bones strong healthy bones yet it's the exact opposite when you drink from the breasts of a cow which is another species it has a protein in it called casein which is a known carcinogen cancer causer and you only baby cows have it a substance called renin to break that that protein down we don't have renin in our stomach so it's not just african-american people it's all people we are all lactose intolerant at some level because we don't have renin in our stomach. In fact, even the adult cows don't drink adult breast milk. They don't do it because they wean and they go to grass. And so we as adults, we're the only species that drinks from the breast of another animal.

Why cows? How come not giraffes or lions or rats? It's because cows are very big and they've been, they're docile and they've turned them into a machine and they're very easy to take advantage of. That's why they do it. So it's for production and the dairy industry wouldn't even be alive. And neither would the meat industry without subsidies, AKA stealing our money through taxes to subsidize these industries, to keep them alive.

Give you an example, meat, a $5 hamburger that you pay for at XYZ restaurant. It actually costs $13 to get it to you. The other $8 is picked up by our taxes that we pay, but people don't understand this stuff. So there's like, there's it's bizarro world. Things are going weird. Now with all that said, um, what I do with people is like, if somebody is like totally carnivore and it's, this is very rare for these people doing this, if somebody is like totally carnivore and it's this is very rare for these people doing this but if they're totally carnivore um they usually have a lot of

they've got they it's long-term nutrient deficiency so we start um cleaning them up and remineralizing their body and then we start adding in plants uh based sources as we can usually in um certain concentrated forms um And then eventually I've seen people that have had, you know, 30 allergies to food for 20 years in a year and a half, two years, they can eat all those. They can eat all those foods again. We're trying to bring the body back to balance. So when it comes to meat versus plants and all that stuff, the first thing is not meat versus plants or plant versus meat. The key, the first thing is fresh. Right.

You want to get the freshest food that you possibly can. I'm also a chef and I know this as a chef. If you want people to like your food, fresh food. Yeah. Have you guys ever caught, have you ever caught a salmon and ate it right there on the bank? No. As a matter of fact, my son just got back from Canada and brought a hundred pounds of cod home. And the cod that we cooked and ate was the best cod that I'd ever had.

And the most wild thing about it was, is there was no fishy smell. Like when you would buy, you know, cod in a store and then cook it, the whole house stinks. You got to turn on the fan. We're cooking this fish and there's just no smell. And that's the difference between the fresh. turn on the fan we're cooking this fish and there's just no smell and that's the difference between the fresh i mean for me like if you look at people uh from the 60s and 70s on a beach everybody was skinny and now gosh what 60 of our population is probably obese and going back to government all they're doing eight okay 80 is overweight obese and morbidly obese it's it's

pretty sad it's it's pretty sad and you know so it's pretty sad. And, you know, so that's, that's a lack of discipline, but it's also when you're being pushed all this stuff by the government, they're doing it to keep you sick, to where big pharma can then push those synthetic pills down your throat and everybody's making money. And it's just a vicious cycle. But for me, since I quit out, you know, I've gotten into the seed oil stuff and I still, I still eat a couple of them. But for me, I've, I've really noticed that I eat the same six or seven things, seven days a week. And once I got to that level, and then you can start to, to manage things. Like if I up my carbs a little bit, because I want to have a better workout. And I really have, have learned that the body is so

important and that the gut health, gosh, if your gut health is good, it eliminates so many problems right out of the gate. And I think that that sauna has been a huge thing. I mean, that that's a 40% reduction in all cause mortality just by doing it three times a week. So there's just so many things that we can do, but we're not taught these things because then we're going to be healthy and nobody's going to make any money, you know, by keeping us sick. And it's just, it's sad, but it's life is, I always tell people life is hard enough. And now we've got to fight these son of a bitches on the government around every corner. And it's just like, it's, it's exhausting, man.

And especially for somebody that just sits there on the couch and watches, you know, the MSN and the mainstream media, it's really shocking the information that they feed you. And I can get so fired up watching it, the fact that I don't even watch it. And I think that anybody that's listening, like if you want the real truth, in my opinion, you just open up a Twitter account and you will be shocked at the world that what reality is and what we think the world actually is. They're just so different and it's so sad, but the nutrition part has just been a huge thing, not only for mental clarity. And now, you know, if I, if I I'm a sugar freak and I'm trying to kick that habit right now, but boy, if I go two or three days without sugar, how much more energy and clarity and confidence really I have is just shocking. But people. I have a test for you.

I have a test for you. So, you know, there's probably a 50 to 60 percent chance you have candida albaclens. You think it's a yeast overgrowth? My son is actually he's on. He has two more days left of this medicine to clear up that candy. OK, so unfortunately the medicine he's taking is pharmaceutical stuff it has side effects okay so we can do this without it completely easy um it was it's been a bastard for me for a long time coaching people because

it's just tough because you know the the protocols from where i learned it from was get people off of sugar for at least 90 days and i'm like okay you're doing cocaine i just if you just stop doing cocaine for 90 days we'll fix this problem i'll just quit you know and sugar actually is almost the exact same molecule structure as cocaine it's exactly it's just like one little thing off it's almost the exact same structures of cocaine but it's three times more addictive as cocaine so here's the problem this yeast gets overgrown and it hijacks your vagus nerve and starts steering your brain like literally it'll road rage you across traffic to go get banana nut loaf at starbucks like it used to do to me okay true story i've done this many times i gotta get a sugar and um i'd become a sugar addict right and

that's when my health was failing all this stuff so what you do tomorrow when you wake up before you eat or drink or anything, you can go to the bathroom if you want to, but do not put anything in your mouth. Fill up a glass jar, about half full, and then just work up a quarter to dime size spit and spit in the glass, set it down, go about your morning, take your supplements, do your thing, your water, lemon water, whatever you do, and then come back in about 30 minutes and look at it if it's floating on top that's good if it grows legs downwards or sinks to the bottom you have candida albicans and you need to do this six days in a row and if six days in a row it floats on the top all days you don't have it we're pretty good at that but if any one of those days it grows legs downwards or sinks to the

bottom you got candida and then we have very simple protocols to help you um knock it out without knocking out your good bacterium in your body which hopefully you're you mentioned you're probably working hard to build that up we can show you how to build that up and strengthen it but you don't even have we just say can you just reduce your sugar do your best in reducing it but we're going to hammer it with a tool that we have that just basically rips apart the exoskeleton of it and just kills it and we've had some severe overgrowth of people where they have like, if you look in their colon, their colons are white or yellow or both because the yeast can get so

overgrown in their bodies. It can happen. And this will eventually take your life. It's not something to mess around with and you want to get on it immediately. And your son's really going to need, now he's on those pharmaceutical drugs. We would have like,

if I, he needs a protocols, like lots of culture, certain types of cultured foods and bacterium and stuff like this to start recolonizing his gut. We can help with all that too. I would love to learn more about that. You know, about eight years ago, maybe about nine years ago, this is when I first had my aha with, you know, maybe these doctors and these medicines are garbage. I got Valley fever. You know what Valley fever is? I've heard of it, but okay. So it's real prevalent in Arizona. It's a, it's a spore that you inhale. Most people that are born and raised in Arizona don't get it, but then it goes in and it scars your lungs. So I kept getting sick and I went in and they said, well, you either have valley fever or you have lung cancer. And at the time I was a smoker. So I was like, son of a gun.

So for a year, I didn't drink any booze. And I took fluconazole per the doctor's deal. And it's real hard on your kidneys and that. So every month I had to go in and I had to get my blood drawn, do all that big process. Everybody's making money. I'm playing in a golf tournament this one time. This guy says, let's get a beer. I said, Hey, I can't drink right now because I'm taking this fluconazole. I have Valley fever. And he said, you just started laughing. I said, well, what's

funny? And he said, I had Valley fever as well, but I wasn't willing to give up the drinking to take the medicine. I said, okay. I said, well, what'd you do? And he said, uh, he said, I went and I bought, I did some research and I went and I bought oil of oregano. So on the way home, I stopped at the health store. I bought oil of oregano. Now I've been going to the doctor for a year, blood test every month for a year. I took this oil of oregano for one week, five drops in the morning, five drops in the afternoon. I went back in and got tested and it was all gone just like that. And so since then, I know, you know, uh, oil of oregano has so many different benefits from cancer properties and gut and stuff like that, that I take it daily.

Is that something that would be, that could beat the, is it Candida? Candida. Yeah. It's called Candida albicans. Um, we used to, I mean, I love essential oils. I love oregano. I love basil. I love cinnamon. I love eucalyptus. I love tea tree. These things are powerful, but we also have to be very careful because you can also destroy some of your gut microbiome with them. So the oil of oregano is not something I would recommend to do on the daily it'd be short burst if you need it but like i said we have another we have a silver product that's so profound you can drink gallons of it and it won't it it's it's a whole it's just a whole

different tool and it's lovely because it doesn't disrupt the gut microbiome and you can actually take it orally which prior to this product that we found all the silvers, we had people putting up the nose so it could get into the bloodstream through the cardiovascular system and not disrupt gut microbiome. I'm gut focused and cellular focused when I'm working with clients. So yeah, but definitely it's, it just goes to show you that it's a much better tool than what, you know, the option, the option is where you're taking something that's 90% chance of side effects at some level now or later. All right. Another question for you. So now that I don't drink anymore, my drink of choice used to be Bacardi and diet. Um, now that I don't

drink anymore, I rarely have a diet Coke or a Coke zero, but when I do, it's, it's my treat, you know, I get it in a short glass, crushed ice, put a lime in it, and that's kind of my, the day's over, that's kind of what I do. Now, I know that it's got aspartame and I know how terrible that is for you. But if you do a regular one, you're cranking back 50 grams of sugar. So which one is worse? Obviously, the ideal thing would be to cut both of them out. I know, I understand that. But what's your priority in your life, Charlie? With your health priority in my life now is my health.

Yeah. So I just answered my own question. But if we continue down, if we continue down this. But Tim, I really want to eat, drink one of them sons of bitches. I know. I know. You know what it is? It's because there's it's the emotionality of it.

And I think that's where the focus would be. Because when I first got into this industry, I'm like, oh, I changed my diet and I cleaned up my gut and I restored my bacteria and I'll help everybody else do it. But you forget that there's this thing called emotions, right? And these emotions can go back to childhood, like where your mom made you some food and maybe you had a distraught relationship with your mother. And maybe that's the, the one thing that kind of, you know, you remember those, maybe she's passed away now, or maybe she's a stranger or whatever. There's, you just don't see your mom, but it could be the foods that mom and grandma made you.

And it's just those smells. And it brings back certain things. Right. So there was a time in your life where you had success with golfing and you were drinking. And so it's probably there's there's like a feel good. There's a safety layer there. When you put that drink in your hand, it's not just the could be part of the flavor and all that other stuff. But it's it's a habitual thing. And there's emotional stress reliever because you use booze for years to reduce your stress. Yep. Use booze.

So it's still there a little bit. And I think what's happening is that there's, it's a little bit of a test. It's the universe testing you to see if like, do you still need this anymore or not? And it's like, you're going to get to the point where you're going to realize that you don't need anything, right? You need nothing. Like you can, you are completely happy with nothing.

Take away your house, your cars, you take your clothes off. You literally have everything you need. And when you can get to that point, you'll be able to, that stuff will just fall away from you. And you're going to become, your emotional strength is going to become even better

because you don't need it. And it'll be like an Island. And you've, you're like trying become your emotional strength is going to become even better because you don't need it it'll be like an island and you've you're like trying to go through the waves right now you know it's trying to get off but as soon as you get through the waves you start sailing you're like oh maybe i should go back to the island but there's nothing there you got to get off that island and finally you get so far away that you're like you know what i don't need it i'm going this way now and it's a whole new direction, right? Because whether it's sugar feeding your candida or it's aspartame giving you cancer, neither one of those work towards what your true natural self is. Unconditional love is somebody that has unconditional love for themselves and wants to permeate that to other people. Doesn't put toxic poisons in their body.

They just don't do it when they have that awareness. Does that make sense? Perfect sense. Awesome. Trying to think if? Perfect sense. Awesome. Trying to think if I got any other ones. What do you got, Carter? Well, no. So, you know, one of the things I was going to actually ask, this isn't really even health related necessarily.

But, well, let me just, I will say this. It was my aha moment with Tim. This is months ago now, right? We've been, this is episode number 85 or something like that. But I remember Tim saying to one of our guests on there, he asked a question about, or he started talking about how the problem is you don't make your health a priority. And I got to that thinking to myself, I'm like, you know what? I'm so not making it a priority, right? So I got the sauna that we've got. So we've got I have like a personal sauna that, you know, Tim sells. I'm like, I got to get me one of these saunas. I'm doing that every single day. Right. You know, 12 to 18 minutes every single day. We've got our home gym. like him saying that to the guest about, well, are you making your health a priority? And if you're just being honest with yourself, you're just like, no, I'm not. But if you make it a

priority, then it'll absolutely, and it doesn't matter what it is, right? Is golf a priority? Does that mean you get out there and you do the things that you need to do in order to get better? Right. You mentioned it earlier. We were talking about golf. Golf is, you know, they say it's like 80% metal. I think golf is 98% metal. So, so I'm sitting here trying to get my son to be like, well, you got to work 98% on your mental part. Forget about getting balls on the range and beating balls. And you know, of course you've got to have the skills or whatever, but once you've got the skills, you got to work on the brain, you got to work the mind, and you have to make it a priority. Conscious effort.

Exactly. When you prioritize your health or whatever energy you're putting towards, then anything, you can accomplish anything. I guess I just wanted to bring that up, but the other thing that I was going to ask in the previous segment is, I think it's critically important. And you did mention a little bit, you brought into the conversation, your wife about being a realtor. Share a little bit about how critically important support of your wife has been during your journey over these last few years. Well, the main reason I probably did it was for her. She is one of the most amazing women that I've ever met. She's from Croatia. So their culture and their family

is so tight knit. And I didn't really have a super close family growing up. So that's something that I've really come to appreciate when I met her. She was, she's a health, a health nut. She, everything is healthy. She's working out. So she's kind of got me down that. But with her, it started out when I decided I was going to do this. She didn't think I was going to make it two days, much less now almost three years. But what she did and what I really think helped is when I first started, it was every week We went to a little dinner or a little something to celebrate one week. And then we didn't do it for weeks all the time. And then we went to a month,

and then we went to each quarter. And what she did is really showed me appreciation and love and support along the way. And not just, hey, good job or whatever. But she went out of her way to, to make an effort to show me that she cared and showed me that the effort that I was putting in was being acknowledged. And, um, you know, if it wasn't for her and my son, I probably, I probably would have fallen off the wagon for sure. But the pedestal that I hold those two on because of how they've supported me and how they stuck by my side through the hell that I put them through, it is just, I couldn't have done any of this without her. And she's recently introduced me to faith in about the last six, eight, 10 months. She used to always just go

to church by herself because I didn't want to go. That wasn't my jam. And now, boy, I can't. Now I'm going to a men's group on a Wednesday and I'm going to church on a Sunday and I'm watching YouTube videos about it, why I'm working out. And she has just shown me so many different aspects of life that have done nothing that more than benefit me. She hasn't, there's, there's nothing that she's ever done or shown me that's, that's taken me a step back. Everything is leaps and bounds forward from where I was. And she's just an amazing woman. And I'm, I'm so lucky to have her in my life. And like I said, I wouldn't have been able to do this journey as smoothly as I have without her.

But I think it is the constant. I'm a pat on the back person. I like having, you know, I like getting patted on the back. And the constant, the monthly dinners or something, and just the appreciation that she shows me for the battle that I continue to win is something that has really made it much easier and much more enjoyable along this path. Yeah. So your love language is affirmation then? Yeah. Affirmation and touch for sure. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Hey, one more question on the health. What about smoking pot? Oh, what about smoking pot? Oh, what do you think?

I thoroughly enjoy it. Um, and I've even, I've even, uh, dabbled in the microdosing and the mushrooms. Um, and I, I thoroughly enjoy that too. Do I, I don don't you know, I don't take it off the off the wall every single time. But, you know, a little micro dose here or that. But I do every night I I get high and I watch the sun go down or after my my kid goes to bed. I like to take a little hit and just why? I don't know. Is it the best thing for my health? I'd probably say no. So again, I answered my own question, but overall, overall, I mean, would you say that pot's better than alcohol? Well, from a system standpoint, again, if you want to look this up, Dr. Shiva Ayyaduri has done a biological engineering systems breakdown on marijuana and his sister was a big pothead um here's the deal from the people and this okay there's people like him my mentor dr treadway um there's certain people that are and i'm working my way into this that they're so tapped into their own body and they're and through their meditation practice they raise their vibrational frequency so much that they're literally stoned 24 7 okay and i don't mean like like they're just high on life like literally it's i'm not it's not

cliche it's not cliche it's like and like even dr shiva he can smoke he's tried other stuff and we're he can't it doesn't even affect him because we can actually control our body's chemistry we can literally do this so this is the the, I, as I built my bill, my body, and then which got me out of being a financial advisor, like Carter was, and now I'm a health advisor. I'm basically a general contractor of health.

Now I help people put their teams together. And then we help people with fundamental things. We have our little sweet spot that we do things, but it's like, I'm the next part of the field for me. And I know it in my heart and my soul is like, it's the spiritual, mental, emotional component. It's such the big part of the field for me. And I know it in my heart and my soul is like, it's the spiritual, mental,

emotional component is such the big part of this. And like through meditation, you can, you can basically heal yourself. I mean, you can create chemistry in your body and all this stuff. So everything you're trying to, what you're doing is when you smoke weed,

it's fun. I mean, it's, it's, it's really fun and it's fast. It's like, boom, bang and boom you're there right so um the question is is like maybe like how can i feel that good all the time

without it how what can i do with that so i'll give an example so um i was uh exposed to ayahuasca and i did that a couple times times. Frickin game changer. I fricking loved it. Um, I've, I've done microdressing and mushrooms. I haven't done a full mushroom trip. Um, I have this gourmet vegan chocolate bar sitting over here with some of the bad-ass mushrooms in it and probably plan. I was going to do it last summer and let me do it this summer. I did you guys just remind me like, Oh shit, I still, I need to go do that. And, um, I know exactly where I'm going to do it. Um,

not sure if I'm gonna do it with somebody else or myself, maybe should have somebody there. Cause I don't know. But, um, what, what these things are, Charlie is their tools, their tools. And these tools like mushrooms. Now, if you microdose, that's different, but if you're doing a full trip or if you're doing like ayahuasca, and I would say even marijuana, they allow you to feel a certain vibrational frequency. So you can actually experience that in this three-dimensional vehicle that you have here, your body. And that's good. But they shouldn't be something that should be abused, especially with alcohol.

Alcohol actually works the same way as ayahuasca. It drops down all the societal conditioning, all the parental conditioning. And people are themselves like revenge of the nerds. Perfect example. They're sitting on both sides. Nobody's doing nothing. All of a sudden they smoke some weed and they're having a party, right? Because people drop their inhibitions and people want to have so much fun.

It's society's conditioning that's got us shrouded in these egos and people are so fearful and it drops all that stuff. Now, the problem with alcohol is that you forget and you don't even know how you got there. So you have to go back to the alcohol to get in that state again. Whereas it's a little different with with ayahuasca and mushrooms. And I would say even with weed, because you can remember what it was like. So if you use it as a tool to experience the vibrational frequency, you can get there easier. That would be good,

but it's not something that should be used on the daily. My mentor, Dr. Treadway said, when you take ayahuasca or do mushrooms, he's like, that's like sticking a crowbar and cracking open your pineal gland. It's a little rough,

which is the connection to God, right? Which is what you're, you're any, anytime man is going towards god in any form is a great thing and so but he said the exact same thing can be accomplished through meditation the exact same thing but it takes more it takes more work and it takes more time right so he goes you have to understand do you want quick fix um or do you want the long term like and he was one of the happiest people he he was so excited to go meditate every day in his 70s so excited to meditate

couldn't wait to do it and he's like wow tim i just i gotta get my meditation he goes i was like okay well i'll get dinner about an hour he's like yeah about an hour and finally like you know i'm making this awesome dinner i got everything timed out and and where's he at he's in there and like should i wake him up what's he doing you know like, then part of me is like, I'm pissed because it's like, but like, I love him. So I can't be mad at him. And it's like, and he finally comes out after two hours. I'm like, how do you feel? I was like, boy, do I feel good? You know, he was in there meditating for two hours and tapping into God. And so what i would say about the marijuana thing is it's completely a choice and you know you have to look at if i was going to do marijuana i would suggest that somebody not smoke it because

when you smoke it you're putting uh smoke in your lungs and i don't know anybody that would stick their head over a burning trash can or into a forest fire it's just not so the animals run away from that shit um so i would number one i wouldn't smoke it i would consume it and i would put it in something that's healthy and i would do it from time to time if i was going to do it it might not be a daily now if i was if i had sick and i had cancer and i was uh nauseous it's amazing for that right it's one of the best medicines to help people not feel sick and get their appetite back amazing okay and i've actually a colonel from the air force like i know him he won't come on my show because he doesn't want to give up his pension he's afraid about it but he went from busting people now he used he healed himself a stage

four cancer with it uh using the rick simpson oil stuff now he makes it for other people and grows it organically so if he was going to do it i would try to get as natural as possible not super hybrid not 20 or 30 i'd probably get like 10 or 12 and then i would put it in some edibles and i'd make my shit myself or find somebody that's making it and i would take it that way so i'm not putting smoke in my lungs on the daily because that's causing a lot of um oxidative stress on the body and kind of free radical damage what's you know um that's gonna make you age and and uh possibility of you know you mentioned cancer earlier and stuff like that so we just have to be smart about this stuff

but the the solution is really us falling in love with ourselves again and like and just peeling away those clouds of doubt and society and parental stuff and allowing that unconditional love that's always there like the sun. It's shining 20 percent, but you can't see it. Sometimes you got to brush those clouds out of the way. And the more you start loving yourself, I think you'll find out the less you need this stuff. And it's just but you have to go through that process yourself. Right. Right. And so what I do is I just kind of help people give different I give them different perspectives.

And then the reality is, is like, I don't really give a shit what you do. Like when I'm coaching people, I mean, I love you unconditionally, but I understand that this, this experience that you have, this body you've been given, this mind that you've been given, you've also been given a choice of light and dark. And both of those choices are valid. They are very valid choices. And you have to decide which ones you're going to choose. My job as a coach and as somebody is just to help them see different perspectives. And I'm trying to help people move towards the light. That's all I'm trying to do with their health, with their relationships, with their career, with their finances, with their spiritual path

is moving this direction and tapping into that consciousness. That's what my real goal now is as a coach. It's not just like, okay, let's hope you lose 42 pounds and hit the ball 20 yards farther, 50 yards farther. Yeah, we can do that. That's bullshit stuff. That's low frequency. Okay, that's important, but it's not the most important thing. We want to raise your vibrational frequency of every cell in your body so you can tap into God. That's the most important thing. We want to raise your vibrational frequency of every cell in your body so that you can tap into God. That's the most important thing. Well, it's funny that you say about being high on life and then how he almost didn't even feel anything when he smoked. I'd say for the last

six weeks or so when I do smoke, I don't even feel anything. And I'm to the point now where I'm almost like, why am I doing this? Maybe just because it's a habit, because it's not giving me that satisfaction that it used to, because I feel that I'm so, as you say, unconditional love for myself. I'm in such a beautiful spot that that doesn't do anything for me anymore. That doesn't change the frequency. And I think that that's a pretty powerful thing. And like you said, back to society, it took me two years.

I had a serious identity problem because I was showing up to these parties or social events and not having cocktails. And I had people asking me why. And I felt uncomfortable because I had never been in situations like that where I didn't have a buzz. And I would say only in the last six months or so, I've been so comfortable with the person that I am and that I've become that now I show up to to these events and I almost, I almost not that I think I'm better than anybody, but I'm like, gosh, I have beat what all these people are suffering right now. And, and they, they show up and they drink cause it's a social norm. And then they have a tough morning and it's just really such a ugly,

they get DUIs on the way home. And they steal the point, the top realtor steals poinsettias and they get him on videotapes stealing them. Like this happened to a friend of mine's buddy. They're like, Tom, you need to return the poinsettias. He's like, what are you talking about? I'm stealing. He's like, dude, we have you on tape.

I'm like, oh. On tape, right. One more question. I've been looking at a bunch of different retreats to go try one of those ayahuasca retreats. Is it worth it? Yes. And I actually know exactly who to hook you up with there we go there we go what a deal easy peasy easy peasy i just had him on my show today he's a wonderful human being and they they have a church set up and it's all legal it's all about board there's sacraments they have all the legalese done and

you can go there you don't have to be like you know 007 in somebody's house or go to the jungle located um well they do them and i believe in i think it was new england or new hampshire one of the news and then also on uh on oh and hawaii okay yeah well that's that's easier than costa rica where i was looking at going yeah well costa rica's cool costa rica's cool yeah we're going to be doing a retreat uh carter it's not announced yet but our first than Costa Rica where I was looking at going. Yeah. Well, Costa Rica is cool. Costa Rica is cool. Yeah. We're going to be doing a retreat. Carter, it's not announced yet, but our first chemical free body retreat will be for two weeks

in a new health clinic retreat center in Columbia, 7,000 feet up in the mountains. Yeah. In a beautiful resort. And a guy's building this whole thing out. His wife passed away with cancer. And then he met this other gal when they were working together, his wife's cancer and her cancer.

And then she died. He put together a fund. He's very, very wealthy and gave away about a million bucks, 200 women. He'd give them a thousand bucks a month while they're going through chemo and stuff. He said, the problem was, he goes, after I had like, you know, 200 women, all I saw him do was get sicker and die. So he goes like, there's gotta be something better. And so now he's, he's creating a healing retreat and, um, I'm going to be working with him on that and help him get set up and stuff like that. And it's great dude, great dude. So there's a lot of

selfless people out there doing great things and you don't have to have a million dollars to do it. The first thing is, you know, give permission slips to everybody around you and your personal family by, you know, loving yourself and changing yourself. That's the most important thing we can all do. That is right.

Beautiful. Awesome. Awesome. Well, I know that we have to get going because you've got some football stuff to head out to for. I get to go sit outside in the 110. Why, my boy, today's the first practice with helmets.

And so we'll see how this goes. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, make sure you're staying plenty hydrated out there, right? Yes, sir. Hey, and Richards, thank you so much for joining us for another episode of the Hockey World Podcast. And to be able to check out all of our other previous guests that we've had on the show, like wonderful Charlie Belgian,

you can go to our website at www.thehealthandwealthpodcastshow.com and make sure to like, share, and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Google, Spotify, Apple, whatever the case may be. So for my fantastic co-host, Mr. Chemical Free Body himself, Tim James,

I'm Carter Wilcoxon, CEO and founder of CSI Financial Group. Thank you for joining us again. Charlie, seriously, buddy, I was so excited about having you on today. Thank you so much for sharing part of your journey. I know there's lots more in the show notes. We will have the way to get in touch with you, maybe your Instagram, whatever it is that is an easy way to get in touch with you maybe your instagram whatever it is that is a wonderful easy way to be able to connect with you but thank you so much for joining us today charlie thank you guys and i very much appreciate your time and tim i would definitely like to get your info um when we're done so we can connect sure we'll hang don't hang up at the end carter okay i even know this is the end i have to hang up at the end there Carter. Okay. I even know this is the end. I have to hang up at the end.

There's nothing I can do about it. But I will promise you that I will, after the show is completely done. Just text us. Text us our email. Perfect. I'll email. I'll connect you guys and everything. So I'll take it.

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