Heroes in Business - Healing Betrayal

Episode Date: March 3, 2022

In this 45 minute session who is heal past life theme of betrayal and show how it connects with the clients current issues and helps them heal and transform in this episode of Guided Self Healing Fearless Living with Dr Andy Hahn.  

Good. All right. So why don't you just take a moment. We'll both take a moment together. And we'll be recording our second session. And all I want to invite you to do again is just we're going to pause and shift, bring our attention into our centers and just let go of whatever we're holding onto. If there's any tension, let it go in the body or any agitation, you just let it go. And on the in-breath, it's like opening to all of life, the animating force of life and every part of life. So that even if you know what you wanna talk about,

it's like seeing just where your attention goes when you just open to life and that vibration. And when you open to that, we also get to say once you're really attuned to that, what you would desire, if you could have exactly what you aspire to or what you would intend, even if you're not sure it's possible.

So we just do that. And as we're breathing breathing we also bring our attention from our bellies and breathing into the diaphragm all the way down through the legs through soles of feet so it's also that we're just really grounded and rooted so it's like connecting heaven which is this animating creative force in the earth, which is this sustaining, nourishing, nurturing energy. So we have everything we need. Going up through the souls of feet and just filling ourselves with that energy.

So we have that. And then I just want to invite you to just tune in to anything that's true for you. You know, it's true or important to share anything about your ongoing healing, anything about, you know, if there's anything that's important to share to bring yourself here, you feel like it's really important to say, of course, you'll do that. And anything you desire. And the only invitation again is to just keep your attention down and in

or from the bottom up so that you're speaking slowly enough and listening to this deeper, higher part of you so that when you're sharing, you're really listening to what you're sharing. It's like you're listening to your own voice.

And when you're ready, feeling very present and here and open and hopefully refreshed, you can share whatever you like and ask for whatever you like. Say anything about our work, anything you like. Okay, thanks. about our work okay um thanks i do notice a difference doing that like the practices i do and it's good feel my feet and um still my weight on the chair it's good um The thing I felt right away was this feeling, I don't know. I don't know. What it made me think of was, I think on the Enneagram, I'm a five. And I think one of the characteristics of that is that you think you don't have enough information and

so that's what it came to my mind because the thing I wrote to you about today was about goals and then it was also about resistance and not finding that process of writing goals and and not finding that process of writing goals particularly enjoyable or playful even. Although when I've written goals down, I've often got them. And so I value that process, but it's not very easy and it's not very much fun. And I feel like that's still the thing that I wanted to say was just about resistance and why, you know, when you set a goal, like I like this idea that this guy Robert Fritz came up with of these four overarching goals, one of which is i choose to be healthy and if i take that one for example then one of the things i want to do is look do some exercise you know to look after my body in my case i tend to do qigong

but a whole day will go by and i've done lots of other things but not that so and I'm going okay well I know that's a pretty common thing that happens to people and it's not like I hate doing it I actually enjoy doing it and I want to learn this stuff so I'm going well why do I you know manage to disrupt myself in that way and not follow that and what am I resisting and I think is there anything else I want to say about that no I think that's it um by the worst some other things I mentioned in my email to you, but that's probably it for now. And as I'm talking about it, my belly gets tight just below my ribs, you know, so mid-rib area, which is sort of whatever,

third chakra and that area. Anyway, so I don't know know i've thrown it out there um yeah that area all around going around to the middle of my back um that's the area of my body i'm sort of most aware of as we we talk, almost like the top and the bottom are disconnected. I've got something there. Anyway.

That feels like a good start. So I suppose what I would like from all this is to see if there's anything underlying that affects my motivation and ability to be more playful in what i want to create and enjoy that process a bit more yeah that process a bit more. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds okay. Sounds good.

Okay. The other thing I'll say is, if that's okay, is there's an element of wanting someone to tell me what to do um so as well as sort of not knowing there's also an element of sort of wanting thinking i don't have it i suppose it's the same thing that i'm not thinking i don't have enough information and wanting someone else to go and go, well, you should do this or what about this? If they did tell me, I'd probably be quite cross and resist it or whatever. But that's what it feels like a bit here. I'm going to stop talking now for a bit.

Okay. All right. Let's find out. I'm really curious myself. let's find out i'm really curious myself so show us a yes show us a no show us a yes we ask source we fully in healing presence yes we simply balance yes are we protected yes are we not no so we're all set let's find out what they want i'm going to find out how to proceed you're going to find out i'm going to find out you want us to do healing you want us to a standard balance you want us to do anything else so all that says is you're stuck someplace so things you're talking about here is all that says is you're reliving something and

you're getting an echo of it that's all this means so far or as you would say something underlying so let's find out what it is so you have a highest intention and that's where to do and your highest intention is that any sum or all of what you've said so it's something you said is it one thing made up of one no is it one thing made up of more than one no is it everything you said it's everything you said is the highest intention which typically what that means is that you're telling us a story somehow i don't know it's like you're in a narrative and the i don't know and the things you talk about any ram 5 and the not enoughness i don't have enough information or energy or time or whatever it's going to be because that's all five but particularly information and you know i have a goal but i resist it so like i tell myself

something and i resist and if someone else told me what to do i'd resist goal but i resist it so like i tell myself something and i resist and if someone else told me what to do i'd resist that too i want them to what i don't i do the same probably with myself too right and there's something that isn't enjoyable about having to like make that kind of like statement and commitment and going for it and it certainly isn't playful so it gets very serious and there's some kind of resistance and it's about also, there's something about healthy because it says that. So something about that is somehow in the story connected with your health.

And this whole thing here must be the sensation that's associated with some narrative that you're in that goes right around and cuts you off sort of right across the middle and separates the top from the bottom, the disconnect as you say, and keeps you from knowing what you really wanna do in any kind of way.

And then there's this tension between not knowing and not having enough information and having wanting to like have someone tell you what to do and like but then saying if someone told me what to do i'd get crossed and i would resist it so um you know so it's like uh being a rebel without a cause literally that's very cool so all that somehow is unfolded into some kind of narrative that's all we know and so because it says in some way shape or form whatever you're working on this all is like an echo it's like you're telling me some story but um it's going to be worse than where your life is at now and it probably is affecting other parts of your life,

but we'll find out. But we don't know. All right, so you're telling us that his highest intention is everything he said. Yes, is this worded exactly correctly? Do we have to refine it at all, add, subtract, or focus in a particular place so it's everything he said?

We have 100% permission, yes. Are we done with that part? Yes. Are we working on this directly? No. That means you need a clue or we need to do something first. Let's find out. We have 100% permission, yes. Are we done with that part? Yes. We worked on this directly, no. That means you need a clue or we need to do something first. Let's find out.

So does this have the structure of a pattern or patterns? Yes. Are there also patterns on it or underneath it? So they're saying that this whole story equals some kind of theme and you need a clue and I'm gonna find it for you, probably. All right, so we're looking for you probably all right so we're looking for a pattern yes we're looking for one made up of one yes is it a pattern in life-centered therapy

yes is it a pattern someplace else like Robert Fritz no I could have asked you but no it's not a Robert Fritzian pattern it's a life-centered therapy pattern all right It's one made up of one. Is it in standard? It's not in standard form. That's interesting. So that means whatever pattern we come up with, it's going to be the reverse. I'll tell you what it means in a sec. So it's one made up of one and it's life-centered therapy and it's in standard form. It's in a reversed form that's good to know all right so is it single-centered no is it major energetic yes is it identity no is it in the material realms yes now we get to the right answer i'm going to go backwards. Okay. Here we go. Split. No. Multiple. No. Reflect. No. Grudge. No. Death wish. No. Dead parts. No. Wounded pattern. All right. So a

reverse wounded pattern. A wounded pattern is when you betray a trust. A reverse one is going to be that someone had a trust with you or something or a group did and they betrayed you you're not the betrayer you're going to be the betrayed or if you betrayed yourself you're going to identify with um the part of you that feels betrayed not the part of you that did the betraying it's like you would say well of course i didn't do what i was supposed to do because look what was done to me or whatever. Because it's a story about you being betrayed. This whole thing about the, I don't know, which could be just like, at one point you thought you knew and you had faith

and then you got betrayed. So your way to solve it would be, I don't know. And not having enough information would be, I thought I knew everything I needed to know, but boy, did I get, you know, find out. So like, I'll never make that mistake again right um and you may have had goals and like the betrayal now has you in some charge around goals so of course you're going to resist them um and it's going to be it's going to affect your health and it's going to be this

betrayal is playing out in this whole area around your belly and this whole thing about wanting someone to tell you what to do my guess is you're going to be in a story where you had someone we don't know but so it's gonna be something like telling you what to do and then finding out that boy was that a mistake or something or it was ambivalent anyway so we and we know the whole thing is this experience a subjective experience of being betrayed does that resonate with you somehow yeah i think as i told you last time i'm sort of having a relationship breakup and i think one of the pictures in my head is that I have been betrayed and but I think that there's something else behind all of that you know because I don't

think I actually I don't think I have been betrayed you know I feel like I have but I'm not sure that I have um but that's the biggest thing i keep coming up against and you know in some ways it's just it's it's an inevitable sort of thing that's happened but i think so yes it does come up is the short answer okay yeah this is going to be like that but worse it's going to be like you're going to have a feeling of like you were really betrayed and then you said was i really betrayed but the feeling is you're really betrayed that's really strong for sure yeah it's i feel betrayed that's the that's right here yeah i feel betrayed is it all right so that's worded exactly correctly so all of this is folded into a story where you're feeling betrayed okay cool all right so next thing you get information

about story we're looking for a narrative and a root cause we're looking for one of each all right originates in you know it does not originate in your lifetime so if you tell me a story about you at all or you and your mother or you or anything we're going to know you're not in the right place because you're not going to be the main character in the story is that okay yeah that's fine we had a past life the other time yeah yes and that was a very interesting and unusual past life if you would go out and i checked out yeah yeah yeah but in this story all right let's find out if it's karmic or genealogical both is it genealogical it's not gene out if it's karmic or genealogical both is it genealogical it's not genealogical it's karmic so that means you won't be you in the story and

you're not on your either side of your bloodline so so far all we know is it's not about you and it's not about your bloodline on either side but having said that you could be anything or anybody anywhere you know male female any race not even necessarily human but i'm gonna say you want to tell us anything more let's see if you need any more clues about who what when where why how or if you know the story which you do not so we're going to get there through a sensation yes anything deep and amplified set up or transpersonal uh that means basically that you can do this any way you like and it's a story about you. It's not like you as part of a group are you holding someone else's story. You are the one who felt the trade. Any practices defined now including a standard practice? Nope. Fully available? Are

you fully in state? Yes. So here's what I want you to do. Fully in state means that whoever is here, someone else is here. It won't be you. And everything you're saying, they're going to feel even more than you're feeling it. This whole thing about, I don't know, and not enough information. And I could make a bad choice and, you know, particularly around my goals and I'm going to make them, but resist them, this ambivalence and that it's not enjoyable and there's nothing playful about it and it will affect your health and um wanting and not wanting someone to tell you what to do um and the sense of i feel betrayed and ultimately the sense of there's this thing around my belly there's this tightness that goes

all the way around the back and it's feeling like literally my top and my bottom have been disconnected and I want you to allow all of that which it says you are right now that's what me being in state or it's fully available means and I want you to scan your body and I want you to tell me whatever you're sensing right now including if the only thing you're sensing predominantly is the sensation you were telling me about before about the tightness all the way around your belly. It sort of split you from top to bottom disconnect. So just get on your body and tell me what you're noticing. Yeah, I do feel that around my waist. So it feels almost like my belly is bloated like forced out yeah and

and then around my waist just above my belly button going around to the middle of my back back. Yeah. It feels like heat. Yeah. Yeah. And like something's wrapped around the area. Yeah, that's exactly it. I want you to choose to bring all your attention to all of it. Like your new name is going to be that sensation of belly bloated and, you know, forced out and heat and this wrapping that's tight around that whole area. That is your new name. You're going to like you're an actor who's playing a role. And we're going to say whoever you are, who is bloated belly and tightness all the way around the stomach area, all the way around your whole thing and feeling like you're disconnected top and bottom. You teach us.

What have you come to share about all of this, particularly about feeling betrayed, but everything? Where is this beginning and what's happening with you? Just be that sensation. And you might become that person like you're saying oh my god i'm living out their life or knowings or images or feelings come all we want you to do tightness and bloated feeling just share with us just talk with us wherever you are you're in the right place okay um so the first thing I noticed

or thought of was reading when I was a kid about Japanese treatments of prisoners of war. And I think, I don't know, I got this idea in my head

of they would make people drink a lot of water and then they would wrap some kind of wire around their belly barbed wire or something like that I don't know where I got this picture from but that's you got it because you're living it now stay with it you're in the right place and and then so that was the first thing I saw and then as I was sitting that seemed to release a bit or it felt like that lost some of its charge then I was thinking of again another male and there's a lot of pictures of Asian people coming through my mind. Let me sit in it again. Stay wherever it takes you because you're doing it fine. So first you have the prisoner of war and now you found this other Asian male. Yeah. Yeah. I'll stay with it. And definitely, definitely China, Asia, China.

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just sort of feeling like it's, it's difficult to settle on it there's a sort of frantic trying to get away from this the sensation just feels it doesn't feel particularly intense it feels quite present around my waist i don't like it I don't want it to be there. But it's not, I want to get away from it. And I mean, the images I see as I sort of focus like on the back is someone being speared in the back. A woman, I think. Stay with me, Al. And a woman on the ground

sort of struggling and being speared. Yeah. Two spears in the back. A woman reaching and hmm stay with it stay down

the woman being speared in the back two spears she's reaching doing great she's being betrayed this is this person's being betrayed yeah this is the person who's being betrayed yeah yeah feeling is being lied to

trusting someone and then being lied to. Completely lied to. A muscle test really strong, stay with it. Yeah. Trust someone and being lied to, completely lied to, that's right. And there was, yeah, she was being used to get access to her family's money or something like that and she was basically betrayed by a husband or another family or yeah something like that. I think she was left to die and and had time to

realize what had happened it wasn't like instantaneous it was this feeling like she was swore she'd never made that mistake again, like would be very careful. So there's a whole caution there

of not wanting to make this mistake again. I'm never going to make this mistake again. That's right. That's totally right. Yeah. There's not a sense of shame, there's more sort of anger and fierceness and actually quite a determination there. To go almost like I'll recognize those forces again if they come towards me. And yeah.

Yeah. Stay with it, stay down, you're doing great. Yeah, there's something else. There is something else, that's right. Okay. Okay. And I think she said, I don't want to do this at some point. She didn't want to do this thing that she ended up doing.

So her instincts were saying, don't do this. And she didn't listen to them. And then she got betrayed. And there's all this anger, whoever it was who betrayed Jada, there was more than one person, I think. So it was not just one person. And there wasn't really any acceptance of where these people were. It was just unacceptable. Is that right?

I just think there was just so much anger and rage at what was happening and her life was ending. This was, yeah, quite a lot of heat around my back. And I was hunting there, yeah. Good. Yeah. Yeah. So between my kidney and my spine, and then almost closer to my spine. Those are the places the spear went in. Spears went in. That's right. Yeah. I don't know if there's anything else I need to get actually

I am wondering if there's anything anything I need to do to to feel like this is moving rather than stuck. Do you see what I'm saying? So I've got the point where I've got the thing, which I, then how do I get it moving? How do I, how does it get some action going in there?

Is it... It feels a bit like it's starting to go down the back of my legs and out my heels, but it's not like, oh, it's going. It's... Maybe that's the resistance, the fighting against what was happening. it's it's maybe that's the resistance the fighting against what was happening bring all your attention there like it's come to share something okay and just tune in like you're asking you're asking it what have you come to share energy that's going all the way down back of legs through heels?

And then just share whatever comes just like you reported. Like it's sharing through you. Okay. So. The feeling I get is, or the voice I hear is, to let myself be angry to be really angry and reluctant to say it because it's like i want to go i don't really want to do that even though i did something approximating it but just there but it's just like

uh-huh yeah letting the anger out I suppose is what it is and it's almost like it doesn't matter it doesn't matter about it it's just got to get out you know and like it doesn't have to be directed at anyone it doesn't have to

don't have to attack anyone it's quite easy to be angry. Okay. I don't think it's quite easy to be angry. Okay. It's almost like most people think there has to be a reason or focus for this anger, but this is more like it's just like a much more basic force that just needs to come out and be angry. There was a bit of a weak growl there. Yeah, it feels quite animating actually as I do that. It feels like it starts to move up my back, into my shoulders, into my shoulder blades, and a bit down my arms and out my hands,

which is sort of opposite direction for something to usually that i expect something to release i usually expect things to release down and out through my feet and heels but this feels like it's coming up and out out of my hands down my arms and it feels really um and it feels really sluggish and staticky like it's not really going anywhere like it's like treacly or you know it's hard to move

it's interesting so you're saying it's animating but it's but it's slow animating is that? Slow animating yeah. It's like come on you know but it's working its way into here and here and down my arms and out here but it's sluggish and you say can this go a bit faster what happens then what's happening it sort of seems to have moved up to my shoulders here and around my neck and it's it's just as it does that it it's just as it does that it it's like

um water slowly or something slowly moving through around obstacles and almost like wearing them down a bit but it's going slow so it's fine I think it is going. It's not that same intense feeling now. It's almost like, well, I've opened the taps and now it's like, it's like to go through the pipes, but they're all clogged up. So it's taking a while to sort of work its way through. Is it going to clear them out as it goes or? Yeah, I think it is. work his way through is it gonna clear the mouths as it goes or yeah i think yeah yeah you know it's going to yeah yeah

have you been aware that you haven't been sort of animated by that kind of uh anger that could set a boundary and like really like you could feel yourself that kind of empowering have you been aware how you've been cut off from your belly up i think i've been more aware yeah i haven't often been angry like that um and yeah I'm remembering a time I was I got really angry with another teacher of a school I was teaching at because he kept on

he kept on lying basically and it was just about cups you know he was taking other people's cups and it's just like come on we all know you're doing this and I really pushed him and got really angry I think I and I and that was a long that was 15 25 years ago yeah so memorable though I probably have been angry since but not in that way but my youngest daughter sometimes gets angry and shoves you, you know, and I just don't like her doing that.

You know, she's only nine. It's like, oh, okay. Anyway, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, we all know you're stealing from me and, yeah, but, like, I didn't do anything about it until I finally did. Yeah, does that sound like something you found today? Maybe that's what exactly happened to this woman.

Mm. You know. She didn't. She didn't trust her instincts. And then she got really angry when it was too late. She couldn't do anything. And. and I suppose the message is that anger is quite free you know

to use it I don't I don't think I do much well I think there's a couple messages one is that if you don't trust your discernment you know you become uh split off it's like you become cut in half and the other is if uh when you do and you can really uh

be in alignment with it you can become really animated and empowered um you feel that energy that's what i'm sensing um but anyway i usually talk this way but what the heck it's just here well let's find out if you have a little story you have the whole story this is the whole story are there any practices any practices at all this point you need whoever you are we have your whole story and there are no practices you have to make any more connections between that whole thing and this one's whole intentions you know find out if you're balanced balance the original intention 100% in all levels well apparently you've got it moving because it says you balance it but i'll check in a second should we check levels separately should we check the intention no should we check your

field all right here's how we're going to know when we started about you know 40 minutes or so ago you had this whole thing tied around your belly and like you know you felt the sense of your belly was bloated and like that there's no energy moving up and you were there was this tie that was right around you and it was like you know cutting you off and disconnecting top from bottom how does that all feel now how's it all tell me how that sensation yeah still feel a bit bloated the still feel warm around the back and slightly tight around the sides it's different now but it's still there a bit. How would you characterize the difference of it's different, but it's still there? Teach me.

As best you can. Yeah, no. I think the belly is relaxed. It's slightly softer around. There is still a tightness in that area around the waist just below the rib cage, going around to the middle of the back. Yeah. Okay, so the belly's relaxing, the tightness is still there, but not as much. Have I understood?

Yes, that's correct. I'm going to check for you about that sensation, okay? Or I can have you check. Nope, I'm not going to have you check, I'm going to check. Okay. You're part of this and or you need to practice. No. Or next layer. No. You have something more to share. Yes. I want you to bring your attention there like it's like a

friend or a mentor or wisdom or something like tune into your deepest knowing, which is in your gut, and then bring all your attention to the rest of that energy. Like you're asking, okay, you've come to share something more through me or with me or to me, and just be receptive. Like you're really listening to someone's here.

It takes a lot of energy for them to show up. So they must want you to know something. So just tune in and see what comes to you. It makes no sense yeah yeah I suppose the thing that came to my mind was, like, this is the second session I've done with you that's been to do with past lives. And I'm very comfortable with that. You know, I've done quite a lot with past lives before.

I've done quite a lot with past lives before. But I think, so I suppose I'm thinking about, well, that's the thing that's worth mentioning as a possibility because it's quite an expanding thing to go, okay, well, maybe there's other things that affect me besides my experience in this life in this body you know and um i suppose if anybody's listening to this then that's something that i think is worth pointing out that it's definitely valuable to consider that and i'm i'm i'm enjoying that it's happened actually and i wasn't expecting it to i was expecting it to be issues to do with this life but on both

occasions that we've worked it's it's been an underlying thing and again that makes sense you know because if there is a it makes sense that you know we hold on to things from past lives and then they get carried through as an energetic force that affects us so um i think it's worth paying attention to that noting it as a thing that happens to people me well it's a good to know you're a person now ah yeah yeah it's true um so that's the thing that i started thinking about when you said well what do i want to share about that um yeah i'm and i think the other thing I've been thinking about, I thought about afterwards, in regard to this was that I have, I have received energetic readings in the past where people have looked at how past lives are affecting me. affecting me and i think the difference between those and what we we've done in these now two sessions is that you can get the communication about a past life and it can resonate. And then over a period of time afterwards, you don't. You can then process it in some way, maybe something gets released or you do things a different way.

But here in this session, you know, I got to feel it in me, in my body. And that's a different thing. And I like that experience. So I think I'm trying to say in a a roundabout way that's a very positive way to work with it um and it ties it in with what's happening um physically in your body and the first time we did it there was a big release of energy right away. And I felt some literally felt something draining out of me. And this time it was harder and it was a bit more frustrating because it wasn't moving as freely. But on both occasions, I got to go, okay,

here's something we've talked about. And then here's something I'm feeling in my body in response to that and honor that so that's i think that's really powerful it's good me too okay yeah i actually think this was a different time than the last time which felt more like strictly a release this was more like something had to move it was like it was stagnant and part of what was going on here was that it had to animate you some that there was a quality of like being split off from an aspect of your being and that it kind of came up from below that it was you were split so that some of what was going on here wasn't just about releasing something it was about uh integrating something i think that had like uh never had a chance to um manifest itself which feels yeah you know yeah no that makes sense

because as i said anger is not being something i've had easy access to at all although it always comes out doesn't it because you get it comes out sort of um what's the word passive aggressive you know that's definitely my style that's a good word yep yep it can become you know it's yeah you want to you want to active assertive as opposed to passive regressive right exactly well maybe we've taken step, but you can be skeptical and then you can check it out and see if you feel more animated and you feel more like you can be active in the process

and assertive as opposed to passive and aggressive. That'd be good. Yeah, no, that would be good. I like that. So, nothing else. All right, there's nothing else in the whole protocol. That's interesting because i can just check so

for any lessons no are there any of the final questions including future pacing about how your life will be different well fully affirmed yes you are here for health and health anything more for the one in the story for all no so is our complete that was nice work see if there's anything more you want to say anything at all about how you are how you're feeling now compared to an hour ago or what you're what touched you about this or any reflections if you want to make any connections which you certainly don't between this and you know what you brought in today if there's anything at all that's great it's like waking up to a dream if you want to just let it settle, that's great. No, I don't think I want to say anything about connecting.

I don't want to try and make connections between what I said before and this. I mean, I think it's an underlying thing. So I want to see what happens after this. Because I know some of the protocols you're talking about, I'm enjoyed. I wish we'd gone into them a bit more, but I don't think that was necessary. I'm not saying that very well. Doesn't matter.

I don't think I always, I like active assertive as the opposite of passive aggressive, because I always tend to think of the opposite of passive aggressive as aggressive aggressive. And that's just that's just violence. Yes. Yeah, that's not good. So I think active assertive is a good way to say it. So, no, I don't think I have anything else to say. so no i don't think i have anything else to say just you know i was appreciating as you went through some of your lists that you were saying quickly i went oh i know some of those i know what

some of those are that's really they're really all the patterns are really interesting and i think everybody's got some of them in all in in them some of all of them in them, some of all of them in them, and some of them are more powerful than different times. So it's good. Good. All right. So would you like to set up another time? You want to think about it and call me? You tell me, I'll say yes.

And whatever you like is fine. Yeah. Let me have a think about this. Let me let this one settle because it does feel like it's not so immediate. And if that's okay with you, I'll just leave it like that for now. That's good. It's your time, energy and money.

So anyway, this has been wonderful. And I will, if nothing else, I'm sure we'll be in touch and I'll look forward to it very much. Ian, thank you so much because you've given everybody here a gift because you are you were willing to have you know willingness to have people witness our work and that touches my heart a lot too oh yeah likewise I feel great it feels great to be in touch with you Andy so thank you and thank you for the what you've done today and everything.

It's good. Liberation society. I'll talk to you soon. Bye now. Yeah. Good. Okay. Thanks. Bye now.