Hey Riddle Riddle - #337: Kite Flub w/ Paul Scheer

Episode Date: January 1, 2025

The wonderful Paul Scheer(The League and Joyful Recollections of Trauma) joins us this week! How lucky are we? We do some listener submitted riddles and talk improv! Starring:Adal RifaiJohn P...atrick CoanErin KeifGuest Starring:Paul Scheer Editing by: Casey ToneyTheme by: Arne ParrottLogo by: Emily Kardamis & Emmaline MorrisWant more? Get Weekly Bonus Eps on Patreon!JPC's Guided Meditations Volume 1, available now at our Patreon digital store!Want merch? Visit our TeePublic Store! or pins, buttons & printsWant to mail us something? Hey Riddle Riddle 6351 W Montrose Ave #267Chicago, IL, 60634Want to leave us a voicemail? Call (805) RIDDLE-1 or (805-743-3531)Want to advertise on the show? Check out Hey Riddle Riddle via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. Okay, left hand red. Okay, right. Yeah, easy. Easy hand red, easy. Right foot yellow. Okay, right next to red. This could not be simpler. This is- Left hand, right foot, easy, easy.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Left hand riddle. Huh. I don't see a riddle. Oh, there's one. There's one riddle circle, but it's way over there. Way over there. Oh, I see what this is. This is one of those things where you try to get your friends to like hook up. Oh, yeah it's way over there. Way over there. Oh, I see what this is. This is one of those things
Starting point is 00:01:05 where you try to get your friends to like hook up. Oh yeah. Yeah. Next try. No, I'm not trying to get you guys. We hooked up on the way over here. Next try. Wait, what? We're not, oh man.
Starting point is 00:01:17 You guys, are you getting back together? I don't have to parent trap you anymore? Oh God. You were parent trapping us? Is that why we're playing Twister on this cruise? Yes, and I sent you guys to the same summer camp. Wait, no, that's the opposite. And so in this- That's what the parents did, sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:32 And are JBC and I are twins or we're? Lovers. I'm Lindsay Lohan, you're the parents. I feel like we're talking a lot about movies, which has to suck for our guests because I'm sure that they have like a ton of opinions about the movies that we're talking about. So I feel like we just kind of have to get them in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Twister was a movie we talked about. All right. Let them out. Let them out of the trunk. From how did this get made? From Unspoiled from a fantastic new book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma. Joyful Recollections of Childhood Trauma. Paul Scheer.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Hello, everybody. How are you? I'm so excited to be here. That is the title. Don't let it scare you. It is not a book that's going to bum you out. I very much enjoy the Home Alone chapter. Oh, thanks so much. You write about being a kid and being scared of like adults in the neighborhood. I very much related with just how that all played out and having a weapon in the house and everything. It's a fantastic book and very much resonated with me when I was a child. Oh man. Well, I really appreciate that. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Paul, thank you for coming on this show. We're going to be doing some riddles. How do you feel about riddles? What's your relationship with riddles, lateral thinking problems, even escape rooms? I love an escape room. I mean, I really love immersive theater, probably more than escape rooms, because it seems like everybody now can just have an escape room. It just seems like all you need is a small studio apartment,
Starting point is 00:02:58 and I feel like no one's really dictating the quality of these things anymore. Sounds like you're going to a lot of unsanctioned escape rooms in people's studio apartments. Well, I mean, what's sanctioned at this point? You don't have to, you know, look, a restaurant, really dictating the quality of these things anymore. Sounds like you're going to a lot of unsanctioned escape rooms and people's... What sanction? At this point, you don't have to, you know, look, a restaurant, you gotta get that grade, that A,
Starting point is 00:03:10 that B on the window. Escape room doesn't have that. That's true. It's a wild west out here. People can choose it for a clue. I don't know. If I saw a B, I don't think I would go into one of those restaurants, right?
Starting point is 00:03:20 I think it's all A's. Well, no, they gotta put the B up. I've seen B's. But you're not going into the B room. No, you're not gonna go into them, but it depends. But like if it's like Pink's hot dogs or something like that, they may have a B. And you have to be like, eh, well yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:34 I'm not gonna go fine dining at a B. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Cause he can't even talk to this place. I'll eat a dirty hot dog. Yeah. Yeah. If it's a little dirty. Now Paul, you said you like immersive theater.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Have you been to Sleep No More? Oh my gosh, three times. Okay. Closing down now, yeah. Yeah, I think this next couple weeks here or something. Do you find in immersive theater, did you treat it like an escape room the first time you went in terms of maybe specifically Sleep No More? Did you try and go through drawers and find?
Starting point is 00:04:02 I did, yeah. And then I realized very quickly, like that was a futile effort, you know, like, and really what you're supposed to do is just kind of enjoy the experience. I think I really enjoy being like lost in a world and just kind of being a part of something. There's been a few really cool ones here in Los Angeles where there are games within them. You're not trying to escape a room, but you are playing a part in a larger story like there's one that I went to about two years ago around Halloween because it seems that they always pop up around Halloween where you were you know I went twice again because I like to go twice to see how it changes and And at one point I was told to poison somebody or not poison that person that affected the end result
Starting point is 00:04:47 of the actual show. And that was really fun. And there's a lot of different things you can kind of see. I think it's a really interesting challenge, but if done well, if done poorly, it's a mess. We actually on How Did This Get Made had the lead, not designer, but the experience creator for the Star Wars Hotel, which is something I really wanted to experience.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Oh, shit, yeah. That's not amazing. It was down in Walt Disney World, yeah. That, did that last like a year and a half? That was so short-lived, right? It was brief. It was really short-lived. Yeah, I think unfortunately it was very expensive, and then also bad planning in the sense of,
Starting point is 00:05:26 hey, I just spent all this money to take my family to Walt Disney World, which is getting more and more expensive by the year. It's not like a casual vacation spot. And then I'm going to cut myself off from that to do this specialty Star Wars hotel, which I just think doesn't make that much sense. It's like you're going to Disney World
Starting point is 00:05:46 then go to Disney World. Like, you know, you're like, you know, and you know, it's more expensive. It's all this sort of stuff. I wish that they would just do it for like six weeks every year. I think that would be a better way to maybe run it or something like that.
Starting point is 00:06:01 You know, just keep it open because they have the infrastructure. Yeah. I was there earlier this year in Disney World open. Cause it, they have the infrastructure. Yeah. I was there earlier this year in Disney world and it's still there. Like the infrastructure is still, it's like, it's like there it's. It's a big giant building.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah. Yeah, it's already been built. Well, that's why I'm like wondering if they are gonna reopen it. I don't understand how they didn't quite, you know, figure out like the cost effectiveness of it. Like it seems to me like we all can look at that and go, yeah, that's a really tough idea to tell people
Starting point is 00:06:31 who are paying so much money to then go off and not enjoy the theme park that you are paying money to go to. Like I think it just seems complicated. Like they should have done it somewhere else. They could have done it here in Los Angeles, honestly, because at least in LA, there's less stuff to see. Right, people are starved for that out here.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. Well. I mean, people are going to really crappy, and that's the other version of this, sorry. Escape rooms and immersive bars, they're all kind of, and then these other Instagram museums, everything's kind of merging together in this weird way.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And I feel like I am mixed on it. I feel like there's a lot of bad in this thing. It's like we're immersed. Are there challenges? Who knows? But like, you know, I feel like sometimes the simple is better. Like in and out secret menu.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Like let's keep it on that level. We don't need to be building like Kevin McAllister's house just so you can take a picture of him in his bedroom. Like, you know, it's like, what else is there to do? And we actually have that house in Chicago. I know. You can just go to that house and get the fucking picture if you want.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Well, but you know that they have now opened an immersive home alone experience in London of all places. What? That's incredible. Where you just walk around Kevin McAllister's house. It's fully recreated and that's that. I don't wanna judge that because if they did that with like the father of the bride house,
Starting point is 00:07:50 I would go every year. Probably could just walk. I'm sure that that one you can do in LA easily. Oh, they know my car. I sometimes just go and sit outside of it just to feel close. Okay, so go ahead. I did go to the Breaking Bad house when I was in
Starting point is 00:08:07 Where is that? Santa Fe now you're on a watch list, New Mexico I well I went there but like it's like a real house that people live in and there was like a car Parked in the driveway with like the lights on and so my wife and I just kind of drove past me like what I gonna do someone's at home, it's a real bummer because You know, it's almost like the studio should buy that house, right? Like they should, because it's not gonna be fun
Starting point is 00:08:32 to live there. Or next to it. Or next to it, yeah. It really is, I saw that Breaking Bad house at one point and they had like big chain link fence around it because people are just getting too close to it. You know. People were throwing pizzas up on the roof for a while too.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Yes, yeah. It seems like that stops. Someone kind was like, we should be stopping this. If I lived there, I'd be like, free pizza. As long as it's hot. You can throw a pizza as long as it's hot. On the roof. Roof pizza.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Roof pizza. I just saw a thing. That's a B grade. I just saw a thing yesterday where, I think this is in England, wherever they shot Teletubbies, which is like this picturesque little meadow or something, wherever they shot that, I guess people kept showing up to this guy's property to take photos or do videos on that land. So the guy got so annoyed he flooded it.
Starting point is 00:09:21 He just made a lake out of the area of the set. So I do agree with Paul where it's like, step in, pay the extra money to just like buy that property if the person wants to sell so they don't have to deal with like the harassment of like constantly people trespassing. Or you monetize it in some way because it's like the, you know, Hobbit land, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:39 and when you go to New Zealand, you go there, you take your pictures, we'll do the whole thing, we'll give you a, you know, we'll give you the whole experience. But I do think that that's the issue is like, people want something so you need to set it up. My friend lives across the street from the house from Halloween and every day throughout the entire year,
Starting point is 00:09:58 they have a pumpkin right out in front of the house. There you go, you got it, right? Like there's always something you can drive by, you can feel good about it. You know, Bo Burnham shot his special in the Freddy Krueger Nightmare on Elm Street house. Like that special, like when he was in the house the entire time.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That was the nightmare, yeah. You know, there's so many of these houses, but it's, yeah, like whenever I drive by the Doc Brown house, I get excited, but I'm not stopping and jumping out there, you know? Paul, I would love if you did Hollywood tours around the city. I would love it. I would go on tours.
Starting point is 00:10:31 One of my first gigs that I ever had was I worked on a show called Make My Day, and it was a ill-fated, it wasn't even a WB show, I think it was a CW show or whatever, you know, it was WB, where it was like, cause I remember that when you would call like the main office, the person would have to answer the phone and go like,
Starting point is 00:10:52 it was like, hello and welcome to the WB. You know, it was like they have to do the Michigan J-Frog thing. That sucks. That sucks. So we did the show as a based on a British show called Make My Day and the premise was it was a positive prank show. So from the moment you got up to the end of the day, you were on a prank show and you
Starting point is 00:11:15 didn't know it. But we had created a perfect day for you in this in this like, you know, in knowing everything about you like we've had a dossier, your friends had set you up and we created this amazing day. So I was a writer on that and I was in all the episodes. And one of the things I got to do was this tour bus in New York city. We rented a tour bus. I was on it and it was called celebrity fishing. I was dressed like a fisherman. I had a fishing pole and I would go out with my fishing pole
Starting point is 00:11:45 and pull celebrities into the bus. And obviously it was all set up. And I fished in Mario Lopez, who just happened, well happened, to be walking on the street. And then Mario Lopez and this girl had a really fun day together. That's incredible. So funny.
Starting point is 00:11:59 That's so wild for someone to like get through that day and then to be told it was on a fun prank show and be like, okay, so like nothing good. get through that day and then to be told it was on a fun prank show and be like, okay, so nothing good is key. Yeah, that was kind of the bummer of it on some level because there were these moments where this one guy, he had this amazing day where he basically was helping kid from Kid and Play create a new rap song
Starting point is 00:12:25 and he'd always been wanting to do that. And you know, and then you're like, oh, it's fake. And you know, and look, overall, it was a very positive thing. And I think people felt good. I think they were heartbroken at first, but you know, it wasn't meant to make you look like an idiot. Like it wasn't, that wasn't part of it.
Starting point is 00:12:43 It was really how you reacted to this stuff. But what I did love was we shot all 12 episodes of it and then the head of the network at that point was like, we don't do positive prank shows, we only do negative prank shows. And at that point the number one prank show that they had was a fake American Idol where they were pushing through all the worst people.
Starting point is 00:13:05 And at the end, it was, I'm sure you can find this on YouTube, but at the end it was a gut wrenching moment because they're like, you won, you won. The person's like, oh my God, oh my God, I won, I won. Yes, you're the worst singer. And they're like, what? And they're like, yeah, yeah, you, this is a contest.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You're the worst. And, but don't worry, we're gonna get you singing lessons and you'll be better. And it was so fucked up. Singing lessons. It was so fucked up. And the person who created that show just went home at night and slept
Starting point is 00:13:35 and had a normal life. I know, I know. That's insane. On a big bag of money. I remember just like, I don't know who thought that was a great idea, but it was such, like, you know, again, I was very young when that show came out and I was excited to see the end.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I was like, yeah, these fucking idiots, let's let them, you know. And man, it was gut wrenching to watch, you know, somebody's, you know, because they've been fooled for so long. I think I know who would think that was a good idea, and it's about six guys and girls that I went to high school.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And I can still tell you their faces pretty clearly. And their names. See, all their names, of course. By the way, the show is called Superstar USA. It was a WB show. Sorry, Paul, a what show? A WB. And guess who it was created by?
Starting point is 00:14:24 The creator of The Bachelor, Mike Fleiss. Oh. Wow. Yeah. D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- and I imagine, yeah. If I show up to a show and I see Tone Loc and Vitamin C as the judges, I'm like, this is a prank show. I'm being pranked. This is for sure a prank show. Now, can I tell you this? Now I'm looking on this Wikipedia and I just have to share this with you. Please.
Starting point is 00:14:55 They told the live audience that they didn't want the live audience to be laughing at the singers, so they told them that they were all terminally ill young people who were having a wish fulfilled by a charitable organization. What are you talking about? Oh my God. Yeah. Could you?
Starting point is 00:15:13 This seems like, and we've established some safeguards to stuff like this can't happen anymore, right? This seems like a bad time. It's honestly impressive to make every wrong choice. Like, that is like batting a thousand of the next wrong thing to do. We're talking about, this is Iraq War era, so it's like we were as a country
Starting point is 00:15:32 making some really bad choices, just blanket without no accountability. We just kept turning left. We were like all left. It is really, I mean, really rough stuff. Yikes, yikes, yikes. Hey, speaking of bad choices and rough stuff, Aaron, you're gonna give us some riddles today, right?
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yes, believe it or not, we are a riddles, puzzles, and improv podcast. Yes, I love it. And if, sorry, this is a prank. Paul, we're so sorry. We're setting you up to humiliate you publicly on a riddle podcast. Oh no, I knew it, I knew it.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And it's not the one where you get to have a really good day, it's the one where you can have kind of like an uncomfortable 40 minutes where you're like, these are riddles, what? Oh no, oh no. Well, these first riddles are from Tara, inspired by Sandy's spoonerisms of movie titles. So how do you explain spoonerisms?
Starting point is 00:16:23 It's like when you're- So spoonerism- Yeah, Adel, you go. I believe invented by Shel Silverstein. It's where you put the, you swap the first letters of a two word phrase. So instead of cold pizza, it might be pulled pizza. Terrible example.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Got it. No, you know, this actually got me on Wheel of Fortune. I was on Wheel of Fortune. I was on Wheel of Fortune, and they have a similar kind of category. And it was like, I forget the clue, but it was like, name this Star Wars assassin. And it was Darth Hater,
Starting point is 00:17:01 which is like Darth Vader and Bill Hater. Darth Hader. Or maybe I'm not giving you the right clue, but that was the answer on the board that none of us could get. Darth Hader. It's almost like a before and after, but yeah. But I guess you're right,
Starting point is 00:17:17 that's not exactly the same because we're not flipping, it's not like, it's not Barth. Yeah, it's not Barth. I will have some of those later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. So this one, we're just swiping, swapping like the first letter.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yes. Or the first consonant sound. So I'm gonna give you- So like if it's cold pizza, oh fuck. Tigglebitties is the, if we wanna go back to grade school, Tigglebitties is the best example. And why? Why is that the best example?
Starting point is 00:17:40 Okay, got it. And why is it the best example? And yeah, but also, so the clue is going to be for the spoonerism. So you're, we're working backwards. You'll see. example. And why is it the best? And yeah, but also said the clue is going to be for this spoonerism. So you're we're working backwards. You'll see this is I'll give you the example. Okay, don't make sense. Okay. Okay. Example is this movie is about a prohibition on floor coverings. And the movie came out in 1989. Okay. So okay, so permission. So it's going to be a two word title. Yes, Aaron prohibition. Prohibition, oh. So it's gonna be a two word title, right, Erin? Yes, prohibition on floor coverings,
Starting point is 00:18:08 and again, it's for the Spoonerism, not the actual movie title. Now tiles, tiles is the first word I think of when I think of floor covering. Could be rugs. A rug slide. Okay. A rug. I, all I can think of is lit foos.
Starting point is 00:18:20 It's like a rug that doesn't connect to the walls. It is usually small. Oh. Okay, so like a floor, like an area rug. Oh, you said it, someone said it maybe. Rug? No. Doormat? Not the door part.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Doormat? Mat. Mat. And then if it's a prohibition of mats. Oh, a prohibition. Mat man. Yep, you got it. Batman.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Batman. Wow, Michael got it. Batman. Batman. Wow, Michael Keaton's Matt. 1989, Batman. Okay, I get this now. Okay, now I'm understanding. These clues are not, I was thinking like road to perdition. I was thinking like, okay. Untouchables.
Starting point is 00:18:58 A Coen brother, yeah, okay. So I don't, okay, got it. So I am going, I gotta go out of, I gotta really go far away from this The clues are just to get us to words, but the clue itself has nothing to do with the movie The clue will not make the movie seem familiar at all. Okay, got it. Okay. I do want to see a quick scene. Okay More of like a public commercial JPC I would like you to be mat man
Starting point is 00:19:23 Local salesman who sells sort of rugs and carpets and mats and Paul at some point I would like you to enter as the Whatever the mat man Joker Version is the villain in this okay great Coming down to Matt man's rug warehouse We're having a big sale on rugs all weekend long 40 50, 50, 60% off rugs. As a child, I was beaten by a rug by my stepfather, who was a real dick.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And it made me terrified of rugs. And now I've taken that back on me. And now I'm the Mat Man. Oh, ha ha ha ha. Not so fast, Mat Man. It's me. That's right. It's Linsanity, the linoleum salesman,
Starting point is 00:20:03 who's coming in with the easiest way to clean your floors. Uh, spill anything on it. Milk, blood, whatever it is. Don't get those dirty dirty rugs. Lin Sanity, you fucking bastard. I'll kill you with my hands. I swear to God I will. But you'll slip on my linoleum floor. Try to catch me. Ah! Oh, my back back, oh my fucking back. Do you want us to cut or keep rolling? No, this is all in the script. See, we work together, I do one side of the story,
Starting point is 00:20:34 it's harder, it's hard to actually keep the business open. Batman, he breaks his back and then he has to rebuild himself to go fight Lin-San-The in the next movie. Frank Miller. Okay, take all my money. All Frank Miller. This all sounds very, very terrible. I can't wait to watch it.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Okay, here we go. Failing to launch a flying toy on a string. Okay. Failing to launch. Kite. Yeah, kite. All right, so kite is one. Failing.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I'm failing. What year is this movie from, Aaron? Does it say? Yes, the movie is one. Failing. I'm failing. What year is this movie from, Aaron? Does it say? Yes, the movie is from 1999. Oh, kite. Bad kite or but kite, biked kite or? Kite flub?
Starting point is 00:21:14 Is it kite flub? And then what would the movie be? Kite flub. Kite flub. But what would the movie be? Fight club. Fight club, yes. Oh, I say, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:22 She wanted us to say the part that we all knew, but we were too busy saying bite, bite club. Kite club. The lower extremities of people who make fun of others. And this is 2004. All right, so legs. Bullies or bully feet? Teasers?
Starting point is 00:21:39 The lower who make fun of others. Lower extremities. Feet. It's like if you do an impression of someone, you're... Mock? Mock? Mock?
Starting point is 00:21:48 Mock? You got it? Meet the Fockers! Meet the Fockers! Oh wow. Feet the Mockers! Feet the Mockers! Meet the Fockers!
Starting point is 00:21:56 Meet the Fockers! Fock the Meters! A basic seasoning that is not very close to you. And this is 2014. Distant Spice. It was like a teen movie. Salt? Yes! is not very close to you. And this is 2014. Distant Spice. It was like a teen movie. Salt?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yes. Okay, we got the salt. Salt and Catch Fire. It's a teen movie, so salt. She's Salt That? And when it's something- Oh, yeah, she's Salt That now. She's Salt That. She's salt that.
Starting point is 00:22:25 That's a different game. What's the first part here? When something is not very close to you, it's... Far. Yep. So... Far salts. Salt. Fault.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Far. The fault in our stars. Yes, the fault in our stars. Hank Green, John Green? John Green is the writer. The Fault in Our Stars. There were extra words in that one that really fucked me up. Sounds like an excuse.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Sounds like a bunch of cowards coming up with an excuse. That's what it is, kinda what it is. That movie is way too sad, by the way. Well, yeah, it's about a kid who's dying of cancer, right? Yeah, I guess they never promised it wouldn't be sad. Yeah I've never Aaron I've never read it by the end do you learn that it's not a kid dying of cancer but someone they're pranking? Yes exactly. Okay yeah. Yeah. Aaron isn't that also what a walk to remember is about as well? Yeah and she
Starting point is 00:23:20 goes whatever you do don't fall in love with me and he goes I won't you're a nerd and then he falls in love with her and then she dies and then she gets cancer Yeah, she had cancer the whole time always the way Oh twist ain't that just the way okay hitting a high schooler Strappy shoes with your foot this one's hard 1984 Klee because this one is like kind of a mess this one one's really hard. Strappy shoes, strappy shoes I feel like. A high schooler's strappy shoes, is that. Freshman or senior, classman? It's like the kind of the age range
Starting point is 00:23:55 a high schooler would be. Teen. Yes, teen. Not another teen movie or no. So teen will. Wait, wait. Spaghetti straps. This one's so hard. Do we need to get strappy shoes now? movie or no Spaghetti straps this one we need to get strappy shoes. Yes, what's a strappy shoe that you'd wear in the summer? Is it the Velcro? Yeah, and rabbit Oh Sandal Sandal teen teen sandals Well, what rhymes with sandals?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Scandal American Vandal. No, American Vandal on Netflix. It rhymes with sandals? It rhymes with sandals. No, this is. Handle, oh, too hard to. So like, if you can't get it, then what rhymes with sandals? That is from a famous 1984.
Starting point is 00:24:40 16 candles. 16 candles. 16 candles. 16 candles. 16 sandals, 16 candles. Wow. 16 candles. 16 sandals, 16 candles. Wow. Can you imagine being a teenage candle?
Starting point is 00:24:50 Wow, it's fierce. Well, you've lived a very long life. I mean, if you've lived a couple years. Yeah. Yeah, most candles do not last that long at all. Read in Spanish plus what a nurse might say to her vaccination trainee. Roja?
Starting point is 00:25:08 No, this one. And this is 2019. Rojo? Rojo? Yep. Rojo. And then what a nurse might say to their vaccination trainee. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Yeah. Like how you give someone a shot. This one's also very, very hard. 2019. Remember what was in like the awards circuit in 2019? This was sort of like a dark comedy. The premise is pretty wild, but they made it work. Rojo land?
Starting point is 00:25:37 No, what is that? A lala land, I see. 2019. I mean, this is like a mean, this is a big one. Yeah, it got its flowers, I haven't really heard people talk about it since it came out, but I thought it was good. Then I have memory hold it.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Okay, so rojo is one of the words, right? Rojo. Well, rojo's not obviously one of the words in it, because. But there's a spoonerism, so oho is gonna be in there, right or so so ho but we think about rojo is spelled Our oh, jo jo. So it's something that ends with ojo the first word Jojo. Yeah, Jojo. Yeah, Jojo's rabbit Jab it Jojo rap. These are this is wowjo, wow. Jojo Rabbit. Jojo Jabbit. Jojo Rabbit.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Jabbit. This is, wow. I'd like to see a scene. This is mind-fuck. Paul, you are. Wait, what is she saying to, what is she, sorry. What is she saying to the, her intern? Jabbit.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Jabbit, got it. I don't know, that to me sounds like there should be more meta-interms being used. I'd like to see a scene. Paul, you are training Adol to give shots. And JBC, you're the person that they're practicing on, and you're a little bit nervous. OK.
Starting point is 00:26:52 OK, so what I want you to do is just jab it. Wherever you see skin, just jab it in. It will work. Pause. So pause. Are we sure that we're doing this? we should be doing this on a person? Uh, yes. Because it feels like...
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yes, anybody. It's good. The shot is good for anyone. You just jab them with the shot and it'll be fine. It'll be fine. It will work. It will work. You don't even have to find veins anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:18 This is how good it is. This is how the vaccinations are so good. And doctor, this is sort of like when you're teaching me how to do a heart transplant when you told me just have fun with it. It's kind of like that. I showed you that movie with the Molo Ram and I said just go in there and take one out and you put the other one in. Just like Indiana Jones.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Yes. Oh, perfect. Perfect. Oh man, Alfred Molina. Okay, so just so you know, if I see blood, sometimes I get like a reaction to a scene. Oh no, no, if you do it quick and walk out of the room, you'll never see blood.
Starting point is 00:27:50 You just jab it and you run out. You just get people, just get them real quick. I've been doing it on the street, you know, because you have to make sure everyone gets their vaccinations, so I just run up to people, jab them and then run. We don't need the needles back, because it's dirty, it's bad to keep the needles.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Okay, sir, do you have any issues with your neck? Oh, yes. Okay, let's go. Yeah, I'm in the neck real quick. I probably shouldn't tell them where. Okay, yeah, you don't tell them. You have to make it surprise. Make them look like go say, Hey, look at this bird. And you know, more recently, my issue with my neck is I think I was walking I'm down the street like a couple weeks ago And I think that someone jabbed something into my neck and so now I wear the scarf. Let me see were you wearing them Were you wearing like a knicks hat? Yeah, I was I was oh yes. I was yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, that was a good one Yeah, you you were screamed. Oh, yeah behind your ear. Oh needle broke Oh yeah! What's this behind your ear? Oh, needle broke.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Oh, same spot, same spot. That was right. That was cool. See, that was very good. Perfect. We have two more of these and then we're going to go on a quick break. A long journey for a single foot covering, and this is 2004. So kind of prime prank TV show time.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah, a single foot covering. A long journey. Not a walk. A trek? Maybe a trek? A trek. A trek. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:15 And then a foot covering. A star trek, but maybe it's a tarp, not a sock. No, what goes over the sock? A shoe. A long, I mean. A shoe. Trek shoe. Oh, not a sock. No, what goes over the sock? The long, a long, a shoe. Shrek shoe. Oh, Shrek shoe. Yes. Shrek, wow. Shrek shoe, oh God.
Starting point is 00:29:32 My favorite of the Shreks. The best. These make my brain like tickle. I can like feel like the base of my brain tickling. Aaron, if I may. Thinking? Are you trying to distract thinking? I don't know. Aaron, if I may, in the warning I'm making maffles
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah, I'll give you a point I mean we've never done before but we can start now. Yes, perfect. Yeah This one is a three-parter, okay, so it's three words Okay a sound that is rap curiously good to listen to made by Sam from Cheers. Wow. A sound that is curiously good. Sam from Cheers, that's Ted Danson. That's Ted Danson. Yeah, so just Danson.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Danson. We'll call him by his last name. Dirty Danson. And that's the last word. Dancin'. Okay. A sound. Noise.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Wait, that's a, okay, it's just a noise, right? Yeah, where do you hear sound from? Ears. Yeah, ear. Ears. So ear. Blank dancin'. Ear dancin'.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And this is 20. Oh, Dear Evan Hansen. Yeah, 2021. Oh, wow. Ear heaven dancin'. Wow. Dear Evan Hansen. Oh, wow. Ear Heaven Danson. Wow. Dear Evan Hansen. Ear Heaven Danson. A movie that no one had a single complaint about.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Everyone on the internet was so nice when that one came out. I do want to see a scene. Let's say Paul and JPC, you are two people who just arrived at the gates of heaven. Aaron, you are sort of a Gabriel, St. Peter's, is that his name? St. Peter's sort of stand-in, but this is Ear Heaven. You would think of Peter Gabriel. So you're the person who guards the gates at Ear Heaven and we're gonna see the differences between Ear Heaven and regular heaven. Hey, welcome. So sorry you died.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Looks like you two were pretty good on earth. Thank you. Thank you so much, yeah. Congratulations. Yeah, so what do we get? Like, do we get like better stuff? Like, we get like a nicer spot, like a penthouse kind of a thing or something like that? Yeah, cause I like, I've really tried to cram it into like,
Starting point is 00:31:42 kind of the last 20 years of my life, like all the good deeds. I was really going like overboard with that. I really wanted to likeam it into like kind of the last 20 years of my life like all the good deeds I was really going like over board with I really wanted to like get like a nice thing here Like that's why I was I kind of like it's like a down payment So I was really working on that well as you know There's a bunch of different kinds of heavens and you qualify for some How would we know did you guys walk past orientation? That's fine if you did but I well just boring. Yeah, yeah Honestly, it is pretty boring, but you qualified for ear heaven
Starting point is 00:32:11 So this is where we just play the Tarzan soundtrack 24 hours a day all the time and we sort of all smoke weed and we vibe and we go how good is this? Can you believe this is so good? I like that but now now I'm just, I just wanna clarify, what Tarzan? Which Tarzan? The Phil Collins Disney one. Oh, okay, okay, yeah, the Disney one. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:32 All right, I hear you. So we'll listen to that soundtrack. Yeah. What Tarzan would you, what I have been talking about? Well, there's Tarzan, The Legend of Greystroke, there's a bunch of different Tarzan movies. I mean, there's the Johnny Miller Tarzans, you know, the one that came out in 2016.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I don't remember what it was, but I think it was Tarzan. Oh, that's actually one of the Hells, is the Alexander Skarsgård, Margot Robbie Tarzan. They played that on the loop. Oh, wow, you see, it did not, okay, it did not know that. Good, yeah. That's great. Well, so we're just gonna hear the Phil Collins Tarzan.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And is it just the main song, or are we gonna hear the whole soundtrack? Because I do- It's just the one. I feel like calling it the Phil Collins Tarzan and is it just the the main song or we're gonna hear the whole soundtrack cuz I One I feel like calling that the Phil Collins Tarzan is also kind of like some heavy He did three songs on that he did a bunch. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you'll be in my heart Yeah It was actually like a bunch of reprises of the same song, but I don't really count that as like yeah It's like you think it's three, you know, I mean, look, I mean, my favorite probably from that, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:27 I think there's more, right? There actually might be more. There's more. Which was, you were two composing the music, I mean, that's the thing, it's like, did he do everything? I don't know if you guys are gonna fit in here. What?
Starting point is 00:33:38 He actually didn't compose the music on that. I can't remember the composer's name, but he, I mean, hey, good for Phil Collins. He's getting his name out there. If I could do 20% of my job and take credit for 100% of the job, I would do it. Well, here's the thing. I mean, you have a lot of these musicians
Starting point is 00:33:53 that are just coming on to, you know, they're putting their one song in there, you know, and Phil Collins is like, I wanna dip my finger in the whole thing. You know, so I, you know, for me, you know, artistically, I appreciate this so again We'll be hearing I would prefer if we can make a note I don't know if we can pass this up to the big man. Yeah. Yeah, you know
Starting point is 00:34:13 We wouldn't want to hear any of the mark mancina stuff. We just want to hear the Phil Collins Yeah, and I also don't want to hear trash in the camp at all. I don't know remix I don't want to hear it like me two worlds.'t wanna hear it. Strangers Like Me, Two Worlds, You'll Be In My Heart. Two Worlds, Two Worlds for sure I could hear. Strangers Like Me, You'll Be In My Heart, Instinct remix of Trash in the Camp. No, Instinct Trash in the Camp I don't wanna hear because that, I mean what was the thought process there?
Starting point is 00:34:36 Okay, strike two, strike three, you're going to Tarzan Hell. What? No, the Margot Robbie one or the 1982 one? Scarsgard, Margot Robbie. Oh boy, that is gonna be. That doesn't help it because I didn't see the movie so I don't knowabi one or the 1982 one scars guard margarabi? Oh boy, that is that doesn't help it because I didn't see the movie So I don't know is it is it the 82 winners at one of the animated if you don't want to come in To your heaven where we listen we get a little high and we listen to in sync saying trash in the camp
Starting point is 00:34:58 Then you don't want to be in here. Well now you're changing it up You see this is what I this is yeah We could have just gone to hell in the first place because you hear that's what I said of Phil Collins And now you're leading with in sync. It's like now you making changing it up. You see, this is why I think we should have just gone to hell in the first place. Because you're the head of Phil Collins, and now you're leading with N'Sync, and it's like now you're making us like the bad guys. Look, we've spent a lot of time on Earth being very good to make, you know, we just wanna get some answers here. That's all.
Starting point is 00:35:16 That's all we want. Can I be honest with you? There's still time for orientation. No, don't. No, that's it, no way. I'll be honest with you, Matt. There is a hell where it is, you sit and you listen to Trash in the Camp by Nsync all day long. Don't want that.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And there's a heaven where you listen to Trash in the Camp by Nsync all day long. And you know what it is? Attitude. It's your attitude about it. Wow, it's what we bring to it. Wow. It's what you bring to it. I'm almost wishing, not really, but I'm almost wishing Art Meth Lab had never even exploded. Because this is just- I know, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I don't know what to say. See. So we talked about Peter Gabriel guarding the gates of heaven. You brought up Phil Collins, Erin, and then what band were they in together? Genesis. That's why I thought about it, because I've been thinking about that song.
Starting point is 00:36:11 What is it? I was just in my head all weekend in the air tonight. No, that's a Phil Collins song. What's the? Genesis what we go. Do you feel that's gotta be Jethro toll, right? Let's take a quick break. Oh, follow me, na na, na na na na na na. You know what I'm talking about? It's the Genesis song. Is this a Christmas song? It's follow me, follow, follow you, follow me. Follow you, follow me.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Fuck you guys, we're going on a break. No, dude. It's Genesis. Genesis, you know, Genesis. One, two, three, four, eight, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. GPC This podcast is sponsored by Squarespace. Oh, I'm so full I couldn't eat another bite.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Oh, GPC, what's going on, buddy? Oh, it's just I've, uh... I see this dish that I have in front of me. It's kind of like a lasagna, except it's not really a rectangle. It's kind of, Square, it's like a Squarespace, like Squarespace. Oh my gosh.
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Starting point is 00:41:53 Out of love to make you feel seen And we are back from break and I'll be honest with you, we talked about Genesis songs, if we know any of them the whole break, and I don't know if we landed on anything. Really. No, really. Shock the monkey?
Starting point is 00:42:16 No, that's Peter Gabriel. You know who I know is Supertramp? Who is that? Aaron, is it possible? Wait. I'm looking at this Invisible Touch album and I definitely had this Invisible Touch album and man. Is that, I'm in the Invisible Touch, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Oh yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great song. That's a good song. There we go, we got one. We got one. Erin, what is going on? Why do you know Genesis so well?
Starting point is 00:42:40 I don't know. Yeah Erin, what's going on? I have a very specific kind of dad. I don't know, you obviously. You what's going on? I have a very specific kind of dad. Yeah, guys, okay. The physical type. Yeah. I also have a specific type of dad, but my specific type of dad is more the like, I remember
Starting point is 00:42:55 one time I went home for like Thanksgiving or Christmas and it was like the first night I was back, but not the night that we were like doing all of the festivities. And we sat in the dark and listened to, I think two Jethro Tull albums, like in full. There you go. Didn't say a word to each other. No, it was Steely Dan. It was two Steely Dan albums.
Starting point is 00:43:14 That's the same thing. At the end of the day. Moody, Moody, Steely Dan, it's all the same. Same dad. Same dad, same band, same dad. Okay. We got more riddles. These are, same dad. Okay. We got more riddles. These are similar.
Starting point is 00:43:27 These are from Sage. We can use their name. I've been a long-time listener. You all have gotten me through my entire undergraduate degree, and I look forward to losing my mind to more riddles as I become your target demographic as someone working on their masters degree. Great. I hope it's in philosophy.
Starting point is 00:43:45 That just sounds like a fun thing to get a master's in. My friend got a doctorate in philosophy of like philosophy of technology. And he's very smart. He does have existential dread all the time. Sure. I guess that makes sense. I was talking about the doomsday clock the other day. I mean, it must be pretty far, pretty close to doomsday clock. Yeah, it's broken.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah, yeah. It's off the charts. Yeah. Okay, so these are kind of confusing to explain. Oh, Erin, do you wanna hear my impression of someone who just got their masters in philosophy? I would love that. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Okay. Why did I do this? Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Well done. Okay, so these, while palindromes are words spelt the same forwards and backwards,
Starting point is 00:44:34 the reverse spelling semrdalenip is cheekily used to describe a word that is spelled, a word that spells a different word when backwards, also called anadromes, if you don't wanna be cute about it. For example, pool and loop would be anadromes. Mm, okay. Got it, got it.
Starting point is 00:44:53 The riddles below use four lines to guide you to the two words that an anadrome would spell. Does that make sense? They will. So the answer would be something like pool, loop. Yeah. It's gonna be one word both forwards and backwards. Yes. Once I do this is an example. Sure. I've never thought about it before but I'm also now pretty mad that the word palindrome isn't a palindrome. I mean that would be a pretty solid
Starting point is 00:45:18 thing to do. I mean yeah a total missed opportunity. How do we who do we talk to about that? Let's just change race cars and palindromes. Let's call the things that you drive around the court. Palindromes. Why do you park in a driveway and drive in a car? That would be the questions that we've been asking for all time. Here we go. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:38 A river winds easy and free. The movement of water is what you call me. Howling more than wind and air. Predator in the woods. It's packed all there. Now, here's the thing, Erin. I was listening really hard to what you were describing. And then once you started reading it, I'm like, I think I'm playing a completely different game. Well, I was like immediately I was like, stream. I think stream is a part of it. But then I'm
Starting point is 00:46:01 like, no, but then I kept on going. And I and I'm like well now I don't know where we're Inside of this we're getting two words. We're getting two words. So this is it's pointing you towards two words, which is hard This is hard to throw at a guest Stream you're doing it. You're doing it there. I know when I don't know why you guys let me do this Erin to be clear if we get one of them, we basically have both, right? Yeah, exactly. Because we just have to say it, yeah. Paul asked, is stream one of them?
Starting point is 00:46:30 No, stream is not one of them. A river winds easy and free. Oh, sorry, winds, winds. I'm so sorry. A river winds easy and free. Got it. The movement of water is what you call me. Howling more than wind in the air,
Starting point is 00:46:42 predator in the woods, it's pack all there. So predator in the wood, predator in the wood that's in a pack is a? Wolf? Yes. Oh, flow and wolf. Flow and wolf. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Okay. All right. Perfect. I feel like I need, I don't know if you guys have this, but I do not have the ability. If someone's like, says a word, I can't just spell that word in my head
Starting point is 00:47:04 from like thinking about the word. I have to like, use my fingers to write the word out. I didn't even know, I'm just out guessing words. I'm like, I'm over here like. Well, I got flow and then I was like, what is flow backwards? I don't know, I mean, F-L-O-W, how would I ever get that? Great, let's do another one.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Okay. Okay. Okay. Moved by the moon, a motion in cadence, oceans roll with the waves advance, running across an improv stage or what is done to a marked up page. Tied edits. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Sides is a word, right? Sides, because I got, because it is, what is it? It's t word, right? Sides, because I got it. Because it is, what is it? It's tides, or no, sorry. Yeah, tides. Yeah, tides. Tide and edit. You got it.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Edit. Tide and edit. I'd like to see a scene. You three are an improv team. And Paul and JPC, you're trying to gently give Adel a note that he is editing too much. Hey, great show. Really great show, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Oh man, that was awesome. Fun audience, like good house, like it's always. Yeah, yeah. Quick though too, right? We just, I mean, that was, we had that, I think we had that slot for 30 minutes where we did like about a quicker show than normal, right? Yeah, it was quicker than normal, right?
Starting point is 00:48:24 Like, cause we Yeah, it was quicker than normal, right? Because we were, yeah, we went on at 10 o'clock sharp and it's 10.04 now. All right. I didn't know some of these scenes breathe a little bit more too. I think we could just do that because it's like they're funny. I mean, such funny stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I mean, your thing with the, oh my gosh, the alien president was really funny. I think we could live in that, I think, for a little bit longer, probably. Yeah, because I said, I'm the president of aliens, and then it felt like the scene was kind of like, almost immediately over after. Yeah. I'm not sure who edited that one.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Oh, I think, well, I think it was me. I think I ran on stage and picked you up immediately and kind of shook you, and I was like, these are my toys. And then I kind of, and then I swept it. And then, Jeff, you started the scene. You started that scene where you were sort of like a psychic and you had a crystal ball. And I remember I ran on and picked you up
Starting point is 00:49:10 and kind of shook you around. And then it was like, these are my toys. So just to keep it in the same world. Yeah, for sure. Cause that's cohesive for the show. And also, Steve, I do think that they will pull the lights as well. Yeah, you don't have to call for the lights. Yeah, you don't have to say lights, lights, lights, Steve, I do think that they will pull the lights as well. Yeah, you don't have to call for the lights.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Yeah, you don't have to say lights lights lights lights lights lights lights lights lights lights until they hold the lights. I got a ladder and got up and unscrewed all the light bulbs at the end there. But I thought was super funny though. Yeah, was it funny to who? Because you were laughing kind of, I would say cackling the whole time you were doing it. But I don't know that the audience was necessarily... Hmm.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I just don't think you'd won them over at that point. Yeah. Why do you... Yeah, I just think, you know, we should definitely try to do different stuff, though, too. I think we're getting caught in that we don't have to do all those as callbacks. Because I think it's not necessarily a callback as much as it just felt like. We can be different characters and stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Yeah. Well, I think when we do callbacks, the audience will forget. If we do any scene that's not tethered immediately, tethered immediately to the previous 10 scenes, the audience will lose interest, right? I kind of hate rehashing the show, you know, like right after we did it,
Starting point is 00:50:20 because you have to let it breathe a little bit. But if I could ask one question, because you at one point went on the stage by yourself and you said, you grabbed your belly and you said, this is my presence. This is my big bag of presents. And then you said, what did you say? You said, no, this is stupid. I'm stupid. Just do a different scene.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Just do a new scene. Then you walked off stage. I think that's, does that seem familiar for what happened in the show? Yeah, I thought that I said that in my head. It was out loud. Yeah. Yeah. Again, you know, let's not even give notes here.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I think what we should do is this. No. But like, you know what? I think we should just, I think if anything, I'm guilty of this too. I think we just need to just like let things breeze because I think what we'll do is we'll find Different fun stuff that we didn't even realize because I think what we're doing is we're getting like a really funny pop And then we're just editing right out of it They also if we exist in it will even find more stuff to even call back like you were saying that's actually okay
Starting point is 00:51:16 So like if the two of you are like two jurors debating over, you know the trial you're you're presiding over Maybe I let it sit for like 20 seconds and then I pick you both up and shake you and say these are my toys? I think we don't have to get so connected to this is my toys. Why don't we also do this one thing and this is just gonna help our next show
Starting point is 00:51:34 have like a little more variety. Why don't we just do two kind of like ground rules like let's try to do this for the next show where we don't pick anyone up and we don't slap anyone hard in the face while they're trying to initiate a scene. I'm out. I'm sick that out Yeah, I don't know Yeah, improv to me. I know for you guys improv is like a creative outlet
Starting point is 00:51:52 But for me, it's like a way I like get you know how sometimes you just want to pick up something and shake it That's how I get yeah, I keep saying the thing about shaking it. I mean, yeah Well, we don't want you to be out because obviously you're the one that has a car and that's, you know, getting a ride to these. Yeah. And you show all the edits. Yeah. How do we proceed from here?
Starting point is 00:52:14 Maybe instead of slaps, we just go, we pivot to like nut taps. That's funny. And we like that. Yeah, I think we just walk to shows from now on and I think we're good. I think we have it. Yeah. This is good. This is good. I think we have it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:25 This is good. This is good. We're learning. This is good. All right. I like this. Let's just kind of table this. And then, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:32 You know what? We'll just make it. We'll do a little challenge next time. We'll make sure to see who can do this the longest. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:40 You know what? Here's my promise. And this is a promise for myself. I'm going to do this, because I love you guys. I love performing with you guys I don't have any fun in these shows but I'm gonna do this without making any money for six more years and then I'm done Then I'm gonna start writing Man I'm gonna start doing that at the end of shows going lights lights lights lights lights lights lights lights lights lights lights lights lights lights
Starting point is 00:53:04 Um, you've done improv in your time a lot of it going lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights. Lights, lights, lights, lights, lights. Paul, you've done improv in your time, a lot of it. Is there a show that you have in your head that you still have nightmares about that just went so poorly? You know, there's one show that I did way back in the day when improv has kind of taken off in this really amazing way. There's one show that I did way back in the day when, improv has kind of taken off in this really amazing way. Like, we just got off tour a couple weeks ago with this group, I have Dinosaur,
Starting point is 00:53:35 and we're playing these giant houses, and the idea of that is so foreign based on where we started. And when we first started, we got called to go to the Minneapolis Comedy Festival. And I think people were expecting like stand up and stuff like that. They weren't expecting like an improvised show.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And we weren't even doing an improvised show. We were doing a show called The Real Real World, which is an improvised version of The Real World, which is an MTV show. And so what we did is we got on stage and as I started doing the introduction to the show, And so what we did is we got on stage and as I started doing the introduction to the show, which is conceptually a heavier show, but again, I thought it was gonna be great
Starting point is 00:54:13 because it's popular, we were selling out in New York, it was gonna be great. This guy just yells, kill yourself! And that was within the first seconds of the show. So that was a rough one. I wonder if that guy had anything else going on in his life at that time. You never know, you never know.
Starting point is 00:54:36 To go to a comedy festival. The act directly before you was a roast comic that only does crowd work, and he targeted that guy for 45 minutes, and then the next show started and that guy goes, it's not gonna happen to me ever again. Now, Paul, I saw, I'd be remiss if I didn't say this, I saw, 2003 maybe, I went to Bonnaroo
Starting point is 00:55:02 and had a wonderful time, and there was a comedy tent and there was a time where I was like, I like comedy, let me check this out. And you were performing in there and I remember, that might've been like the first improv I ever saw. And I remember being like, oh, this is incredible. Like, this is a blast. Cause I think I got in there maybe for like the air conditioning or something.
Starting point is 00:55:21 And then I was like, this is amazing. That was our trick, that was our trick. We would always, like we would perform the comedy tent, which is the only air conditioned venue. And we were tricking people into doing, you know, to coming in to see improv, or we were one of, you know, their stand-up shows and everything.
Starting point is 00:55:34 But you know, I'm so excited that you saw that show, because those are actually really fun, because we really leaned into, you know, we kept on on leaning into the idea that we were gonna make it about the audience. So we would talk to the audience and kind of get them to tell their craziest stories and stuff like that. And that was like the, so they felt like
Starting point is 00:55:56 you could see it happening. I feel like that's been my big challenge that you always have to show the audience that you're actually improvising, or they're not gonna believe it. And kind of checking back in with them and showing, hey, no, it's still, we're still doing it. We're still doing it.
Starting point is 00:56:10 You know, I'm doing a show right now with Marta Kaufman, an improvised show for Amazon. Hopefully we'll get to make more. But you know, one of the things that comes up is like, well, are you still improvising? They're like, yeah, we're still improvising. Everything is improvised. The league was improvised.
Starting point is 00:56:22 You know, we based it off of the, like a story outline, but it was improvised. But I think off of a story outline, but it was improvised. But I think when you don't see the seams sometimes, it gets hard for people to. Yeah. Yeah, like buy into it or believe it. Trust them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:34 That's a great point. Like if a singer is too perfect live, you're like, eh, it doesn't feel as fun. Yeah, exactly. Well, I think, well, that, I think, it's like what I think what people wanna do is see a live experience. They wanna, I think, well, that I think, you know, it's like what I think what people want to do is see a live experience. They want to, I think that people are so suspect that you are making this stuff up.
Starting point is 00:56:49 And when it's funny and they're laughing, I was like, well, they couldn't have made that up. That's impossible, right? It's like, it's almost like they're angry at the trick of improv, but it's not like you're not tricking them. It's as good, you're just creating, you know, you're creating a comedy on the spot.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And I feel like if people, like when people are so suspect of it, we ran into this a lot in LA. Well, no, you couldn't have made, well, you knew you were gonna do a scene with two doctors. It's like, no, you don't. And the truth is, you forget the scenes that don't work and you remember the scenes that do work. And it is a magic trick on some level,
Starting point is 00:57:23 but it's like there's no trick of the audience. It's like, yeah, I think the trick is really that you remember the better stuff and you probably forget the stuff that wasn't as great. Yeah, I also think when people are like, but you're not, you're obviously like this, this stuff is like planned or rehearsed. It's like, well, I'm not walking out there with absolutely nothing in my head.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I don't bang my head into a wall three times and then walk on stage. I'm coming in with decades of experience and an idea of what kind of things are funny. I have absolutely nothing in my head. I don't bang my head into a wall three times and then walk on stage. I'm coming in with decades of experience and an idea of what kind of things are funny. And yes, that's what I'm doing for the show. It's not like, this is not my first day on earth. Like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Well, I mean, like I think that people really like, it's, you know, one of the things that's so, I think important about improv too, is like a familiarity with your players and who you're up There with them. Yes, you can improvise with anybody and you get the idea of it and and you you understand certain rules And you're not denying and you're yes ending but like there is a camaraderie Teamwork that you build in with people when you are performing for so long. Yeah. Yeah for sure Yeah, you can see when you perform with strangers and you start picking them up and like touching the inside of their mouth
Starting point is 00:58:25 and stuff like that, they're always such weird sports about it. And it's like, okay, guys, grow up. This is improv. All right, we should do, I'm gonna get through the rest of these quick, quick, quick. Okay. Okay. And then, all right, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:36 A package left or a letter sent. What a phone will say when you send a text. Criticized and condemned words that hurt archaic word to drag one's name through the dirt. A package left or a letter sent. This was that that's the email again. When you have someone has to send. No, but the person actually handing it to you. The person is actually delivered.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yeah, delivered. All right, reviled. Yeah, delivered and reviled. Wow. Wow. Addle got that backwards so quick. It would have taken me 10 minutes to type out delivered look at it backwards. Pieces of a whole rolls in a play,
Starting point is 00:59:20 put together the puzzle and you'll know what to say. Found on a purse, a guitar or a bird I got this one part strap. Yeah part strap Mm-hmm Wow something this one came to me your I as if in a dream You're getting I mean you're getting warmed up and we're about to be done used to store all kinds of junk a broken one Might close with a clunk. It might be a trophy one on your own accord. They say virtue is its own. Reward.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Reward. Reward? Reward and. No. Trunk. Used to store all kinds of junk. Drawer. Reward.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Yeah, drawer and reward. Drawer, drawer and reward. I like how that one gave us the last, that one gave us the whole puzzle, basically. It gave us the word. Little Hanson Gretel breadcrumb trail. I feel like we should have started with that one. I would have had such a much better time starting with the one that just gives it to me.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Well, thank you Sage for those riddles. Thank you, Sage. That was really tough. I loved it. Those were hard. Good luck on becoming a doctor of, what is it gonna be, probably like European studies. Yeah, it's always, a lot of people who are in the sciences
Starting point is 01:00:35 listen to our show though, so it's probably like research on molecular, I don't even know how to make up the science thing, that's fine. Paul, anything you'd like to plug? Oh my gosh, no. I mean, nothing. I mean, my book, Joyful Work Elections of Trauma, is available wherever you get your books,
Starting point is 01:00:54 your e-books, your audio books. And yeah, you can listen to that unspooled and have this get made wherever you get your podcasts. Adol, anything to plug? Very much recommend picking up Paul's book. It's a goddamn delight. And then I would also recommend, since we were talking about immersive theater,
Starting point is 01:01:09 there's a newer show in New York City called Life and Trust, which is by, I think some of the team that put on Sleep No More. And it's basically, it's like Sleep No More, but even bigger space. And it's sort of about Dr. Faustus and some other stories kind of weaved in there, but it's a fantastic time.
Starting point is 01:01:29 So I recommend going to see Life and Trust in New York. Erin, do you have anything to plug or promote? I was watching Twisters on the plane yesterday. And guess who showed up? I actually won't spoil it, but someone on this podcast right now shows up and made me laugh. I wonder who.
Starting point is 01:01:48 JPC and I saw that together in 40X. And when I did too, I loved it. Incredible, and when you showed up at the end, it was like, holy shit, that's amazing. It was so unexpected. It was unexpected for me. I was down in Oklahoma shooting a Super Bowl PSA, or a PSA that was gonna air during the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:02:12 And- Oh man, I thought the other one would've been- Yeah, I thought it would've been awesome. And it was such a funny thing because I used to happen to be sitting next to the director and the next day I got a phone call and they're like, hey, were you on a plane? Are you in Oklahoma City? And I was like, I am. Like, well, you were sitting next to the director, and the next day I got a phone call, and they're like, hey, were you on a plane? Or are you in Oklahoma City?
Starting point is 01:02:27 And I was like, I am. Like, well, you were sitting next to the director of Twisters, and he wants to put you in his movie. And I was like, okay. And it was the first day back from the strike. They shot, it was pretty crazy. That's so fun. Yeah, it was really, it was a blast.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Okay, so you hear that everybody. That's a, go try to sit next to movie directors on planes. That's how you get to movies. It's a new schwa. It's also wild because the discourse around the time the twisters came out and around the time of that scene was how funny that Paul is in that scene. But the real discourse should have been how unacceptable that guy's behavior was in that scene.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Because what he does to the ground at that airport, the movie should end with him being arrested and thrown in the back of a fucking squad car. He is definitely going to jail. There's no, there's no shit about it. And it's an airport. I mean, they have, they're pretty strict about airports. That's all I'll say.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I mean, like all I'll say is that it seemed like I gave him a lot of chances to move his car. And also it seems like you could have just parked that anywhere, it's Oklahoma City. You're not gonna have a, it's not like trying to park at LAX or something like that. You truly didn't need to do that. And you know what? Part of me thinks it's cause he's handsome.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Part of me thinks he's just that handsome and just kind of operates that way. You know, I'll tell you that. There are consequences. I have a friend whose dad would run late for the airport and this is before 9-11, I guess, and would just pull up to the curbside and then leave the keys in the car and just take off
Starting point is 01:03:54 and know the car is gonna get towed because he thought that was a better way to get on the flight. He's gonna pay the towing fee, that's about it. That's so nice. Well, that sounds awesome. Okay, before we leave here, I do wanna read a five-star review. If you want to get a five-star review that you write featured on the show, just write one, leave it someplace. I might read it.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Hey, today I'm reading one from Cameron Poulsford. Cameron writes, JPC, don't use my name if you read this review. Well, anyway, thank you for the five-star review. Aaron, anything from you? Jupiter. Goodbye. Bye-bye. Created by Adle Refine.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Starring Aaron Shea. Erin, anything from you? Jupiter, goodbye! Bye-bye! The logo created by Emily Cardemus and Emily Napores. One, two, three, four, hey, we're the Ritz-Jones. Genesis, you know, Genesis. I don't know it. I can feel it. I mean, that's really what I know. That's the Genesis song, you know. Coming in the air tonight.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Is that Genesis? Or is that just, um. It's at least Phil Collins. Who does feel in the air tonight. Is that Genesis? Or is that just, um. Phil Collins. It might at least be Phil Collins. Who does, Phil in the Air Tonight is Genesis, that's what he asked me, because that's like the band of the hand or whatever.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Phil Collins is like, I mean Phil Collins is an actor, we have that, that was, that was buster, but I'm trying to think of like Phil Collins, oh you're right, nope, that's a Phil Collins song, Phil in the Air Tonight. I can't dance, I can't sing. I couldn't tell you a single Genesis song, for sure. You know what you can, we built the city on rock and roll.
Starting point is 01:05:29 That's a Genesis song. Oh, is that? That's Jefferson, really? Starship? No. No, it can't be. I think it's Jefferson Starship. Who used to be Jefferson Airplane,
Starting point is 01:05:39 who sings One Little makes you smaller. And then they changed their name to Jefferson Starship when they went into the 80s because they're like we Can't be Jefferson airship anymore. We have to change it to something. Okay. I Just saying I can't dance from 1991 down with that one. Yeah, I can't day. You're right Wow Yeah, I'm looking at all these Genesis songs and none of them look familiar to me. I had Genesis albums I don't remember us saying yeah, I can picture Wow Casey put all this at the end credits I like't remember I sing, yeah. I can picture it. Wow. Kasey put all this in the credits. Cause I like this deep dive.
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