Hey Riddle Riddle - Patreon Preview #231: Moral Dilemmas

Episode Date: August 11, 2023

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But this is going to be a little bit of ethics 101. Because what I recently, man, I got on a little kick. I got a little kick of these hypothetical, ethical, slash moral dilemmas. And I thought, you know, we have like these scientists and these professors and these academic types trying to solve these things. What it needs is three knuckleheads who can improvise our way through these dilemmas. So what I've prepared for you is I have some, so many examples of ethical dilemmas that we're going to go over and then we're going to improvise

how to solve those dilemmas or the solve these solve for those dilemmas. Perfect. I have a pad of paper, I have a pen. I am ready. JPC legally, the one thing you cannot ask is should penguins play baseball. That was off the table, but I'm ready for any other question. JPC. I would never ask that question. I think this is the first time ever that anyone has ever thought to come to us for any sort of moral guidance.

I thought that was sort of not our brand, but I'm pleasantly surprised and I'm ready to mess up. Oh, guidance, yes. I would be a bit of a Samantha when it comes to spiders. I'm an American girl doll. Okay, I'm ready. I just have to be going, no one's coming to us. I'm coming to them.

This is all stuff I've just collected from the internet. Now we have a couple hypothetical ones and then I was was also looking at the moral dilemma subreddit too. And a lot of them are fake or philosophical, so we're not gonna get into those. But I might pre-in a few from there. But the first one, this is just kind of a common, a common moral slash ethical question that may exist in the real world.

Maybe it doesn't apply to all of us, but maybe at one point it did. And that is the concept of ghosting a relationship, ending a relationship by just not responding to the other person at all. Do you think it is morally or ethically right to end a relationship in that fashion? I remember if I've ever done that,

and if I have, then it's okay, and if I haven't, then it's bad. Exactly. Now that's, you've landed on. So some of the reasons that people say, I was like, do, yes. Is they want to avoid conflict, right? Like if you're a conflict averse person,

you might just, you might, or you don't know how to handle a situation, you just might be handling it. Or you might be like, maybe you're like afraid ofverse person, you might just, you might, or you don't know how to handle a situation, you might be handling it. Or you might be like, maybe you're afraid of what the other person will do. You might think they'll fly off the handle or something and you don't wanna deal with that. So there are like reasons why people ghost,

but then ultimately, is it the most kind thing to do to another person? And maybe we have to think about the implications of, does that perpetuate a cycle where I don't want to paraphrase psychology, but I think the phrase is ghost people, ghost people. Yeah. Okay. Here's my thought about it.

I think that after a certain point, your past the point of no ghosting. So I think if you have been like flirting a little over the internet and you haven't met in person, you can ghost. There doesn't need to be like a formal goodbye. And in some ways a formal goodbye is a little insulting to that other person. Got it.

I think after one day, and if you both don't really like each other, if no one has texted the other person after one day, okay, you can just sort of let that lie It's been four days and you haven't heard from the other person. You don't have to reach out You know what I mean, but after a second date, I think Is it ghosting if both people just don't ever like take like then no, I guess yeah, but I think that's got that feels More you can go. Of course,

respondents on the internet, you can go. People you haven't met in person, but if you have met them in person, particularly in a romantic context, and you've gone in a couple of dates with them. And especially, I think, if you've been physical with that person, I think be honest and clear and communicative and respectful. If you don't want to see that person again So like if you've lifted weights together or let's pick up basketball more done like a Jane Fonda robics video You think I am

I don't know like 80 you've spent some others in some of these mouth you know McCall yeah, I don't what do you think? I think it that there think there's so many factors that need to be taken into account. To me, it's a thing of, if that person, if you've maybe been dating them for a little bit, so say like one week to three months or something, and that person absolutely sucks, where it's like, you hang out and it's like,

I think this is fun and then they're like, so anyway, my mom's a bitch and you're like, what? I think you can at any time. What? What? If that person sucks, I think you can ghost to like not waste any more time or energy on the person. If you know that person is gonna like cling to you

or try and drag you down, I'll like crabs in a bucket. I think you can just be like, I'm cutting, I'm severing all ties. I don't really need to speak to this person again. I can just block them on a counselor, unfollow them or whatever, and just walk away.

And I think you have permission to do that because the other person is just like toxic or bad. It's just not great to be around around If you are married and have kids Oh, now now now things get a little more difficult because If you ghost with the kids that's kidnapping if you ghost What I would say is do if it's anything past three months, and the person you have, you have a fairly good relationship with them, they're not calling their mom a beward,

I would go versus ghosting, I would go with the pot roasts or barbecue method, which is low and slow, which is you lay low and you slowly fade away. It's almost like, it's what Marty McFly does in back to the future. Remember, he's playing a tar and then he looks at his hand. Yeah. And he becomes, he sort of becomes, yeah, when he pot roasts in that movie, as we said. Well, it's at the Dr. Adelterp. So I would say anything after three months,

you have to do sort of a low and slow. And then I would say, if you are, if this person, if it's more than three months, and the person is still awful, so say you've been with someone for 10 years and just turns out they absolutely fucking suck. Yeah. Instead of ghosting, I would recommend poltergeisting. What is poltergeisting? Now poltergeist, a poltergeist is famously a ghost

who's had enough and they are out for revenge. So then I think you can ghost them plus send them dog shit in a box. I'm writing on a sticky note to put on my computer. So it's always there. Never date, Adel and all caps. Wow. Wow. Interesting.

I don't want to get closer guys. Package in the mail. I want to kind of split the difference between the two of you because I think it's more of a bell curve. I think it's like you can ghost up to two weeks and then not at all until 50 years. And then 50 years on you could ghost after that. So, I think you die at 50.

You die at 50? Hey, Adel, you better fucking hope not. I want to like to see a scene to maybe work this out. Um, uh, JBC, you and I are going to be on a first date and Adel is our waiter and he, um, ghosted you. You guys dated for a while and he ghosted you. And so you're seeing him again for the first time. Got it. So yeah, my boss is kind of cookie, kind of wild but he's nice so it's a pretty good off-scatcher. Yeah he sounds fun but like I don't know I'm don't take this the wrong way I'm glad he's not my boss but yeah it does have fun

but he's had fun. Yeah I mean I miss working from home obviously. Oh sorry sorry ma'am it seems like you're dining alone. Are we waiting for anybody else? Oh, I'm here with my date right now. Todd, um, can I get a water with lemon? Absolutely, I'll be right back. It a water with lemon for me as well. Uh, okay. Whoa. Um, I know our waiter. He didn't even see you. I don't think that was so weird. Yeah. I'm so sorry. No problem. My boss is my ex. So I get it. Running into her ex can be really weird. Oh.

This recontextualizes the story. He's told, and I think he's not a bad boss anymore. I just didn't have that kind of conversation. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. No problem.

My boss is my ex. So I get it. Running into her ex can be really weird. Oh. This recontextualizes the story. He stalled, and I think he's not a bad boss anymore. I just didn't have that context. Okay.

Anyway, I'm sorry, let's go over a minute. Cool. Do you want to hear about our specials today? We have specials for solo diners. No, I'm here with Todd, and Todd would like water with lemon as well. And then we'd like to hear your specials. You'll just have to probably order for me

because this is probably just gonna be the way. I need to get some fresh out of it. I don't think I've ever heard my entire life heard those words arranged like that. Todd, that's a word slash name. I've never heard my entire life. It sounds like a noise you just made up. You're being really eye-roly and sort of acting a little strange.

Thank you for not saying cringe. Thank you for finding a work around from cringe. I mean you guys are exes so maybe we can talk about this in a healthy way. I'm sure it ended in a healthy way where you two can be cordial to each other right? No he had an exorcist break up with me. What? Yeah next yeah he had an exorcist come to my house, tell me that I died, and I was possessed by a demon. I had passed on to it the afterlife. He called a lot of my friends and family and told them that I had passed away as well. It was very involved.

Is this true? If there is a, if there is a Todd, or whatever that is, that you're seeing in your mind's eye or something, you might want to tell them that they probably owe me a healthy chunk of money for hiring that extra sister. They're not cheap. It's a very niche market. There's not a lot around and it seems like they only do three to four cases a year. So if you got a Venmo request two weeks after an extra system almost ruined your life. Would you

pay that Venmo request? I I mean yeah, but thank you. Thank you. I don't know. I don't know what... Why I think I'm an expert on this. I'm just a lady who's still in love with her boss. But I think what happened here. Wait, wait mean? Is he heard about ghosting and he didn't know what it was. So instead of looking it up, he pretended you were ghost treated you as such and called the actresses. I panicked. It's simply put I panicked and it's not like,

it's not like we didn't have good times with me in this, what was the name, Todd? Todd, it's Todd, my name's Todd your name is also Todd Todd you're screaming ha wait are you talking to yourself I could never know Todd you're screaming is what I'm saying to my phone with a reverse camera never date another person with your first name by the I'm so sorry. What was your boss's first name? Todd. Great. See you in the next video. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha you