Hidden Brain - Fake News: An Origin Story
Episode Date: June 26, 2018Fake news may seem new, but in reality, it's as old as American journalism. This week, we look at a tension at the heart of news coverage: Should reporters think of the audience as consumers, or as c...itizens? Should the media give people what they want, or what they need?
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This is Hidden Brain, I'm Shankar Vedantan.
It can feel like everywhere you look, someone's accusing someone else of peddling fake news.
Why did you see an N-reportor between that false son, fake tweet about the migrant children being
in cages?
A recurring internet story says Pope Francis endorsed Hillary Clinton.
Post-Abounded have circulated Twitter and Facebook, but it's bogus.
How the fake news is saying we're fake news.
But the story is false.
Fake news is the enemy.
It is fake news.
These charges and countercharges about inaccuracy, bias, and fabrication can see modern.
In fact, they're deeply rooted in the history of American journalism.
There are patterns and resonances that recur and recur and recur.
But if there are similarities between the present and the past,
there are also areas of sharp divergence.
There are things about our present moment that are unique
and uniquely dangerous.
I think there are consequential differences
in what's going on now in the Trump administration.
Some very important and nerve-wracking differences.
This week on Hidden Brain, what the history of fake news in the United States reveals
about an important tension at the heart of journalism.
Should reporters think about their readers and listeners as consumers or as citizens?
Should the media give people what they want or what they need.
Andy Tucker is a professor at Columbia University and she studies the history of what we now
call fake news.
Andy, welcome to Hidden Brain.
Thanks for having me.
I want to start with a story from your book, Froth and Scum.
You describe a crime that took place
on Sunday morning in 1836.
What was the crime and how did it first come to light?
Early that morning, a young woman who lived at a house
of prostitution in New York City
was found hacked to death in her bed
and her body was set on fire.
It was a sensational crime as it would be in any era, but it became particularly frenzied and important because there was a new kind
of newspaper in the city. And suddenly there was competition to cover a sensational story,
more sensational than the next guy. It became what I think is one of the first media
circuses in US history to figure out who was the guilty party,
who killed her and why.
So police arrest a guy, put him on trial,
but very quickly this new kind of newspaper,
which is the penny press, springs into action,
editors serve up all the lurid details of the case, including several unverified
claims, and insist that they are acting in the public good.
The public good was a really important part of how the new
newspapers were covering this.
They said we're doing something really different.
Newspapers before that had been generally very partisan.
They were funded by political parties.
They were operated by political party functionaries. they were an accepted part of the political system.
The new penny press did something different. They said, we're just giving
information to people who want information. We are not connected anywhere, we're
free, we're independent, we can tell you anything, we're not we're not bound by
any political ties. So you have the right to know what's going on and where the ones
who are going to tell you.
We're doing it for the public good.
How do they go about covering the story?
Oh, it was quite a circus.
There was no such thing as a reporter at that time.
The political newspapers had an editor who kind of thought and wrote.
Then the Penny Press had to invent the idea of the reporter,
the person who went around doing shoe leather observation
and investigation, poking around, asking questions,
trying to get into the crime scene.
All of this was brand new.
Some people were horrified that these nosy little people
were buzzing around, being, you know,
asking embarrassing questions
and talking to people who were much higher than them
in station.
But a lot of readers thought this was just great.
This was news that finally was catering to them.
This was ordinary middle class, working class people
who were not terribly interested in all of the Washington
scandals and embryos.
And this was what they wanted to know.
Bringing people what they wanted.
Newspapers began to treat their audiences like consumers.
They began to ask what their audiences might want to read
and to shape their stories to cater to those demands.
This sometimes meant a blatant disregard for the truth.
The Herald wanted a more respectable readership. The Herald wanted middle-class people. to those demands. This sometimes meant a blatant disregard for the truth.
The Herald wanted a more respectable readership. The Herald wanted middle-class people. So
the Herald decided that the nice middle-class young man who had been accused of the crime
was actually innocent. He was a poor lamb who was being framed by evil and designing
madams and police officers. The sun was a newspaper much more closely tied to the working class.
They wanted to give a story that was more appealing to the working class,
which was this poor woman on the fringe of society
is being abused and exploited by rich and powerful people.
So they both looked at the same crime and had entirely different interpretations
based on what they thought their readers would prefer to hear.
In some ways, it's a very democratic approach to news.
It's telling these readers, you can make up your own minds.
You can look at the case and you can figure out what you believe based on your own intuition and your own intelligence.
You don't need smart
elites to tell you this. So even though each newspaper kind of fudged and shaded the truth,
they did it on the understanding that readers would choose one or the other. And that was that was
part of their pitch. You can figure it out. You can decide. That was really exciting. And of course,
as you're talking right now, I'm hearing echoes to the present day where,
you know, if you're a Democrat, you have your preferred cable news channel.
If you're a conservative, you have your preferred cable news channel.
It really is not that different than it was, you know, 200 years ago.
Now, in some ways, it's very, very similar.
There are patterns and resonances that recur and recur and recur.
One of the things that your book and other essays and writing reveal
is that at times of great conflict that allows people to sort of look at the same facts and reach
very different conclusions about them. And of course, a civil war, you know, is sort of maybe
exhibit A in this because you have the enormous conflict happening within the country and you have
the press basically describing what happened in ways that are diametrically opposed to other publications.
Do you have examples of fake news during the Civil War?
There's one strange one in which a battle of P. Ridge Arkansas, which is in the Wild Northwestern
corner of the Ozarks, very far from everything.
And a reporter for the New York Tribune writes a very long elaborate,
really thorough, really good piece about the battle that later, two of his colleagues
say he made up completely because he wasn't there. He hadn't made it to the battlefield
in time. It was so hard to get to. He listened to other people. He read other reports. He
used his own knowledge, he understood
what might have happened.
It was common knowledge among many journalists, but they were very, they were very wary about
revealing that.
They would refer to it, but they didn't use the name of the reporter.
They were trying to protect their own guy rather than worrying about whether this was truthful
and whether audiences might be misled.
By the end of the 19th century, journalism had become a sort of wild west.
There were very few rules for how reporters should operate.
This is the time of the Spanish-American war
and the yellow press, the very sensational press,
spearheaded by William Randolph Hurst
and Joseph Pulitzer in New York,
and they're competing with each other.
The fake news often gets worse and worse at times of intense competition.
They are making up all sorts of stuff.
It's a war with low stakes and low casualties relatively, so it seems open to all sorts of
creativity and interpretation. It becomes so sensational that people begin to think of journalism as incapable of telling the truth.
There are new technologies too. There is the motion picture.
Edison's film crews go down to Cuba in order to film, they say, to film what's going on.
Turns out these new motion picture cameras are not very good. They're really clumsy. They don't take pictures well. So instead, what
happens is Edison runs a lot of these little newsreels, actualities of what's going on in
Cuba, but he actually stages them in the mountains of West Orange and New Jersey. So there's
a lot going on that's really bad and an of growing understanding
that journalism is at a crisis point that nobody believes it. So there are many forms of fake
news that we can laugh about, but it's also clear that many journalism outlets have used fake
news and accusations of fake news to push really disturbing agendas. You mentioned how the Atlanta Constitution
had reported on lynchings,
specifically the work of IDB Wells.
Yes, in 1894, the Atlanta Constitution
had a headline in which it dismissed as fake news
reporting by IDB Wells on particularly gruesome lynching
that involved African-American women and children.
And Ida Wells was a crusading journalist who was exposing fearlessly the epidemic of lynching
in the South and the Atlantic Constitution, which was a very important influential paper for the
White South, was refusing to acknowledge this and and by using the term fake
dismissed her claims and made and made it very difficult to discuss the issue in public
So at a certain point in American journalism, you know the virtues or the the ideals of objectivity
and neutrality, accuracy these come to be seen as cardinal rules for the press. When did this happen and what prompted it?
That began at the very end of the 19th century, the very beginning of the 20th century,
when objectivity and impartiality started to become news values. One of the key players here is the New York Times,
which has just been bought by Adolf Oaks in 1896. He decides he's going to make the New York Times, which has just been bought by Adolf Oaks in 1896. And he decides he's
going to make the New York Times a paper of record. He's going to make it the final arbiter
and matters of fact. It's going to be trustworthy and it's going to be decent. One of its
motto's, of course, all the news that's fit to print, but another of its motto was, it
will not soil the breakfast cloth. So he was making a real point of being
decent and honorable which went along with being more accurate. So all of these
these different qualities are combining. So that by the early 20th century the
idea of objectivity, neutrality, impartiality, those ideas are becoming more
conventional in certain kinds of newspapers. The Yellow Press continues to be
yellow and people love that too.
But the interesting thing of course is that even as there are these new norms of fairness
and objectivity, accuracy, the norm that basically publishing, fake or fabricated news is wrong,
this does not do a way with the problem of fake news.
In some ways you could argue maybe it even exacerbates the problem.
When you think about in more recent times, the New York Times publishing reports citing
on-name sources that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. You can dismiss the New York Times
as the penny press or the yellow press. This becomes part of the drumbeat that actually leads to war.
It's really complicated. once a newspaper announces
that it is going to be truthful, neutral, objective.
Once it announces it's going to be accountable,
then it's faced with the real question,
what happens if we get it wrong?
How do you make up for that?
Do you undermine your own credibility
by acknowledging you made a mistake? Or do you undermine your own credibility by acknowledging you made a mistake? Or do
you undermine your own credibility by ignoring the fact that you made a mistake? So the fall
of an authority, I think the sound that the authority makes when he smacks into the
forest floor is much louder than the fall of a newspaper that has never been particularly
known for accuracy.
Your Columbia University's journalism school and your school was called into investigate
a prominent story in Rolling Stone magazine.
I want you to listen to this clip describing the results of the Columbia University study
in Fox News.
This is being called a journalistic failure.
Columbia University releasing its review of the discredited Rolling Stone article on an alleged gang rape at a University of Virginia
fraternity house.
So in some ways Andy, this feels like an echo of the 19th century where different publications
were trading charges of fake news.
Fox News is often accused of peddling fake news by the rest of the mainstream media and
here you have Fox News voicing outrage about fake news in another outlet, you know,
history repeating itself, right?
Fake news can be used as an accusation.
The term fake news has become almost meaningless because it can be flung in all sorts of contexts
like this one, like a very contentious and controversial news organization claiming
that another news organization is fake.
Fake news can mean anything you want it to mean.
It can mean news that is honestly mistaken.
It can mean news that is something I don't agree with.
It can mean news that says something rude about somebody I support.
Using fake news in any kind of debate
has become almost ridiculous
because it's talking past each other.
But it seems to be an inevitable part
of any kind of disagreement,
of any kind of complaint about the press today.
When we come back,
we'll take a closer look at the surprising idealism
that often leads to fake news. Stay with us.
This is Hidden Brain, I'm Shankar Vedanthan. I'm talking this episode with Andy Tucker,
who studies history and journalism at Columbia University. One of the fascinating ideas in your work, Andy, is that journalists have resorted to fake
news because they think it serves audiences and the public good.
So if you needed to cover a devastating tornado in the 19th century, but the telegraph lines
were down, and the details of what happened were scarce, your choices were to either say
nothing about the disaster or to try and imagine what happened?
Yes, there was a real debate about the term faking in the 1880s and 1890s, but it was a debate in which many people argued, many journalists argued,
faking is a good thing. By faking at that time, they didn't mean nefarious manipulation. They meant embellishment, adding some details,
filling in gaps that they hadn't been able to see at the time, making an interview-e sound
a little more articulate. It wasn't wholesale manipulation, but they argued that people would
like that better because it gave them truth that was closer to what they expected, that it gave them stuff that wasn't boring, that nobody wanted a
newspaper said one handbook for journalists, nobody wants a newspaper to be a mathematical
treatise.
You don't want to be crazily accurate.
So in the beginning, this term fake news or faking of news was seen as something that journalists
could do to make their readers happier.
In other words, if the mere recitation of the facts doesn't do justice to the truth, the
honest journalist actually goes beyond the facts to try and represent the truth.
Yes, yes, you can do a higher truth that way. And that's a term that we hear a lot,
you know, somehow getting at a higher truth by glossing over in convenient details.
But this was a genuine movement in the early years of the professionalization of the press.
There were professional journals in which this argument was made. Do it for your readers,
they'll be happier. It's a little self-serving because it also meant that a journalist who was
being a little lazy could get away with it. a journalist who wanted to pretend he was a novelist could
get away with it. But in general, yes, there was a real sense that it was a good thing to
do. And it wasn't just about what the public needs,
as you point out, it's also about what the public wants. I'm thinking about the advice that
William Hill's gave to newspaper correspondents in 1887. He's basically saying,
one reason we should lie to our audiences is because our audiences want us to lie to them.
Yeah, it makes them feel better. He had an example of
if you're telling the story of a professor who is fascinated into eloping with a young student.
It doesn't hurt anybody, said Hills, to say that the young student was an enchanting
16-year-old brunette instead of the washed out 23-year-old blonde she truly was. It would
make people happy. It didn't hurt anybody. They would read your story and they would,
the subtext there, of course, be they would buy your newspaper.
To be clear, in most newsrooms today, behavior like this will get a journalist fired.
This sort of fabrication didn't just happen in newspapers, and he has found that over and
over, new technologies opened up new avenues for faking.
The irony is, people always have faith that each new technology will make it harder to
manipulate the truth. Early photography was seen when it first was announced
in 1839, people like Edgar Allan Poe
are talking about how real it is
and how you could finally see more real than any kind of art.
And within decades, you had someone like William Mumbler
who was taking what he called spirit photographs.
He would take a portrait of a person
and go off and do things in the dark room and bring it back and hovering over the shoulder of
the person in the photograph would be the indistinct outline of someone he said was a spirit
of a lost loved one. I don't know how he said but my camera can just, you my camera can pick up these spirits, these ghosts, and they show up in the picture.
And people loved that.
People, this was the year of the Civil War.
People were desperate to be in contact
with people they had lost.
They believed it because the technology seemed so new
and magical that they believed it could do anything.
And now, with the rise of technologies
like social media, you know, we were told that,
you know, with Twitter and Facebook,
you would have 10 million fact checkers,
and so we're going to get a more accurate version of reality,
but we also now have 10 million publishers
putting out their own facts and theories all the time.
The Internet is really challenging
because it's so hard to know the difference.
You go on one page and yes, it is a page where of a serious news organization that has
fact checkers and has editors and has codes of ethics.
And then you go to another page and it looks physically very similar, but it's got completely
different approach to news and it can be very hard for a casual browser
to understand the difference.
They seem to be similar,
but the content can end up being radically different.
So the history is very good at telling us
that the things we think of as dramatic and new
might only be iterations of what's happened in the past,
but are you really saying there's no difference between our current moment and earlier ones?
I mean, specifically looking at the Trump administration and its relationship with the truth,
its constant war with the press.
Are you really saying this is only just more of the same?
No, I think there are consequential differences in what's going on now in the Trump administration.
Some very important and nerve-wracking differences.
I don't know of another time in which an administration so uniformly and vigorously and constantly
works to undermine and diminish journalism as having any relationship with the truth. It is not even an argument about facts so much as an argument about you cannot trust those
guys, they're deceitful, they're dishonest, it's a very emotional argument.
And I think to have no place that's to stand, it leaves truth telling no place to stand and i find that really dangerous to uh to the idea of a democracy
and when you think about that uh that danger uh is there a way for ordinary citizens to think their way through this i mean if you are an average person in the country and you constantly hear claims of fake news being hurled from every direction and every other direction.
It's just easy to throw up your hands and say,
why should I trust anything?
That's a danger.
A danger that worries me and many other journalists
very, very much.
There are many scholars and many journalists
who are desperately trying to figure out ways
to address the failing trust in news, the rush of fake news.
It's really difficult. There are people who say that training and media literacy will help.
There are people who say that news organizations need to be more transparent.
In Europe, there are various governmental or quasi-governmental efforts to
various governmental or quasi-governmental efforts to
regulate what's available, what's possible. Malaysia has passed a law criminalizing fake news. Italy, you can report it to the police.
These are all efforts and I think we need to keep making efforts, but I'm not sure what will help other than
the public, the citizenry, maintaining its vigilance and refusing to
throw up its hands and give up and insisting on reading with courage, with skepticism, with
an open mind and engaging in open debate.
Speaking of government regulation, I want to end by going back to one of the earliest cases of fake news in American history. You describe a case from 1690 and you say that the story
led to an extraordinary 14 year period when American newspapers published absolutely no fake news.
What happened? In 1690, the very first newspaper published in North America
public occurrences. He came to Boston, Benjamin Harris, he was from London, and he set himself up
as just a guy named Ben who was going to publish a newspaper to tell the truth.
And he had a list at the top of what he was going to do.
I'm going to tell the truth if I find that people are not telling the truth.
I will expose them.
I will give people the information they need.
I will use only the best sources.
So it sounded very modern.
He then published a piece that claimed that the king of France, Louis the 14th, was sleeping
with his daughter
in law, which could have been a mistake, but I think it was fake news in a very modern
sense intended to undermine the king because of the religious tensions at the time.
The king was a fervent Catholic, Paris was not, Paris was a Protestant.
I think he published that news, knowing it was not true,
because the king didn't have a daughter-in-law,
and did it in order to undermine the king.
He was shut down immediately,
because this was seen as something impossible
for an ordinary person to do, to be so critical,
saying whatever he wanted.
And then for the next 14 years,
there was no fake news published in America, because for
the next 14 years, there were no newspapers published in America.
Andy Tucker is a professor at Columbia University.
She's the author of Froth and Scum, and a forthcoming book on fake news.
Its working title is Misinformed.
Andy, thanks for joining me today on Hidden Brain.
Thank you very much.
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