Hidden True Crime - BREAKING: Search for Savannah Guthrie’s Mom Turns Dark - Police Confirm Crime | Where is Nancy Guthrie?

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

"TODAY" anchor Savannah Guthrie's mother Nancy has gone missing and police are calling her home a crime scene. Lauren is here to break down everything we know so far about Nancy's disappearance. Sponsor Miracle Brand: Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made—go to ⁠https://trymiracle.com/hidden⁠ and use code HIDDEN to claim your free 3-piece towel set and save over 40% off. About Hidden True Crime What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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through the full timeline. The official statements and the critical details police aren't explaining because in cases like this, what's left unsaid often matters just as much as what's confirmed. Nancy is 84 years old, lives alone in Tucson, Arizona, and has three children, including Savannah Guthrie, anchor for The Today Show. There's also a daughter named Annie who lives near her mom in Arizona and a son, Cameron. Nancy became a widow at a young age. She was only 46 years old when her husband Charles died of a heart attack at age 49. Savannah was just 16 years old when her dad died. Nancy never remarried and the Guthrie claim is extremely close to their mom. My mom is named Nancy Guthrie. She had me when she was 29 years old. I was her third baby and she always said when you came,

knew my family was complete. The word I used to describe my mom is noble. She's strong like hard, iron, granite, strong. We had some hard times when I was a child. You know, we lost my dad suddenly and shockingly, and my mom was so strong and set aside her own grief in many ways just to be there and make sure that we could all move forward together.

And I think that's the other thing I'd like to say about my mom. the greatest gift my mother gave me was faith and belief in God. It changed my whole life. When I was in my 30s, I really wished to be married and be a mom, and things just did not happen that fast for me. And my mom's confidence that one day I would be a mom, even as the years tick by and tick by and tick by meant so much to me. Despite Nancy being in her 80s struggling with mobility issues

and requiring daily medication, she has still been living life to the fullest. Part of that life is regular church attendance. She attended every weekend. So when she did not show up for church yesterday, February 1st, a friend of hers reached out to her family, who then went on to check on her. But Nancy was not in her home,

and in fact, she was nowhere to be found. By 12 p.m. on Sunday, police were called, and Nancy was quickly reported missing. So here's the timeline, and it's important. Nancy was last seen at her home around 9.30 p.m. on Saturday night, January 31st, less than 15 hours later, though. Alarm bells went off when Nancy failed to show up for her regular Sunday church service. And then friends became concerned and contacted her family. By around noon on Sunday, February 1st, police were notified, and Nancy was officially reported missing.

And from that moment, the response was immediate and urgent. Authorities deployed canine units, search and rescue teams, and every available resource moving quickly to locate Nancy and determine what may have happened in that narrow window between when she was last seen and when she vanished. But in less than 24 hours, the tone of this case changed and became far darker. law enforcement is now stating unequivocally that Nancy Guthrie's disappearance is tied to a crime. On Monday morning, February 2nd, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nannos stepped to the podium, alongside a homicide detective, a presence that alone shows just how serious this is becoming, and Sheriff Nannos told reporters that while investigators were searching Nancy's home, they encountered multiple things that immediately raised concern.

And after processing the residence, authorities reached a chilling conclusion that Nancy Guthrie's home is not just suspicious, it is an active crime scene. Police are not describing this as a possible crime. They are saying a crime has occurred even as they remain tightly guarded about what they found and why. it led them to that determination. And now with more questions and answers, Sheriff Nanos is asking the public for help, emphasizing that even the smallest detail could matter as they race to uncover what happened to Nancy

and where she may be. So let's listen to what Sheriff Nanos said during that press conference. We expended a lot of resources for a missing person that we typically always do. Our search and rescue volunteers, our search and rescue teams, Other agencies, Boar Star from Border Patrol sent their canines out. They worked tirelessly all day yesterday and all day tonight. I'm sorry, all day yesterday and all last night to know about.

As I said yesterday, we saw some things at the home that were concerning to us. We believe now after we process that crime scene that we do in fact have a crime scene. that we do in fact have a crime, and we're asking the community's help. This community has always stepped up to help us solve some pretty tough crimes. I'm looking for that again. This is an 84-year-old lady who suffers from some physical elements, has some physical challenges. is in need of medication, medication that if she doesn't have in 24 hours, it could be fatal. So we make a plea to anyone who knows anything about this, who has seen something, heard something to contact us, call 911.

We don't need another bad tragic ending. we need some help. Our team is the best. I couldn't speak any higher. I think you know that. We have done some great work with our partners in the Valley. You know, this community, I have to give a lot of thanks to our law enforcement agencies all across this valley, whether it's the Tucson Police Department or some of the smaller agencies. reached out, they've all offered to assist. The FBI, all of them. We work so close with them and they are all plugged in. We'll continue to work closely with them. But what I really need is I need this community to step up and start giving us some calls.

Let us know if you've seen something. We are right now at a time and I apologize, I've been telling me, I talk about. talk too softly. We are at a time where in this investigation we are now moving forward where we need to depend on technology. You know, our license plate readers, our camera systems throughout the community, anything, everything. And we will download all that data we have from the home, from different pieces of technology we've gotten, and we will use that to our advantage. Let me say this, we've We've not just thrown our search of rescue team out there. They are going to be doing some door to door with our criminal investigation team.

It is not just our homicide unit. All of our criminal investigation detectives. I went out last night to the scene. There were probably 100 cars out there all from the sheriff's department, all work in this case. It takes a lot of manpower and a lot of energy. This team of mine worked throughout the night. They continue to work. David's had zero sleep, but he and his team are working as hard as they can.

Is there anybody else associated with her who is also missing? No, no, no, no. The family, all of the family has been very cooperative with us. They're working with us. They're staying in touch with us. They have complete access to anybody on this department. Savannah has been in touch with us as well. We, our hearts go out to them.

This is their mom. She's, yeah, just a great lady from what I've heard. And I feel for the family, we just want to find her and bring them back safe. Sheriff, you mentioned that she didn't just walk out. Is there any additional information that you can give us on what may have alluded to this being a crime? You know, I wish I could. I really do. I know that everybody wants to know certain things,

but I can't do that for the, just it would be inappropriate at this time. Are there any signs of breaking anything? I, again, don't want to get into that. David, do you, can you see anything here? Do you? At this time, it's still a very active investigation. that there were circumstances on scene

that we believe are suspicious in nature, I think is the best way to put it, but we can't really get into a whole lot of details with that. Do you believe that this was targeted? We don't know that. We look at all of that, but we just don't know that. They do, and we're looking through some of that. Was this being an active privacy to bury?

Trying to figure out my phone. Well, you know, no, I don't think there's an active threat, but I hate to say that because, you know, we're going to canvas that neighborhood and maybe there's a power been seen around. There's a lot of work still to do. We don't have any indication that the public is in danger. And what does that search look like? So we have shut down our search and rescue mission, and we've sent them home to rest, they were out all night. Look, we put all our air assets into this, our drone systems, our aircraft, our helicopters, heat sensors, infrared, everything we've had, we've thrown at this,

they're going to step aside. We'll call them out again if we need to do more searching, but right now we don't see this as a search mission as much as we do a crime scene. After that, they showed a map on screen. Each color on the map represents different resources in the search and rescue effort. And the area those resources covered in the search, just by looking at it, it's a very clear picture that they have covered a lot of ground in a relatively short time span. Take a listen. But that is our search patterns, I believe. Is that correct?

Yes. So with all the assets that we deployed yesterday with search and rescue teams. The map that's on the screen is basically the tracks that were followed. Those are all, the colored lines are all ground tracks of different teams and different assets that were used on the ground to include the canines, the volunteers, and our own search and rescue team. The circles are going to be representative, if not necessarily perfect, of our air circulation with both our helicopter and our fixed-wing air. aircrafted time cameras. So, it's difficult to see where the house is. The house is basically pretty close to center in that,

and then all of the searching that went on throughout the day with those folks out there. What this really helps with is our search teams, when they come back and reassess, maybe they've missed an area. We can look at it and say, hey, you know what, this area can use a little more coverage, and so they concentrate again. Our search and rescue team is top-notch. They're out every single day. If it's not a lost person, it's a hiker,

it's somebody who's wandered away from a care home, whatever it may be. I want to stress to you, and it is really important. Ms. Guthrie, Nancy Guthrie, is of great sound mind. This is not a dementia-related. She is as sharp as attack. The family wants everybody to know. This isn't somebody who just wandered off.

Her physical limits are based on just age and, you know, we get old. And so it's more physical. But clearly she is as sharp as attack. As the search for Nancy continues, the desperation for answers grows by the hour. Savannah was noticeably absent from the Today Show this morning and released a statement saying, quote, On behalf of our family, I want to thank everyone for the thoughts, prayers, and messages of support. Right now, our focus remains on the safe return of our dear mom.

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These and eligibility requirements may apply to certain checking features of the cash account. The Today's show also covered Nancy's disappearance. this morning. NBC's Tom Winter covers crime and security. Tom joins us now with the latest. Tom, good morning. The sheriff said that what they found especially concerning was the scene at the house. What's the significance of that? That's right, Craig. And obviously, our thoughts and prayers are out with our colleagues, Savannah this morning. You know, people go missing all the time in this country. And it can be a frustrating process for families as they ask law enforcement to look and intervene. one of the things that police do first is they go to somebody's house in a case like this.

And according to what the sheriff said last night in Pima County, what they uncovered was a scene that was, quote, very concerning to them, but later used the phrase grave concern at the press conference last night. So it was the evidence that they found at Nancy Guthrie's house. She's 84 years old that they found there that led them to this point where they thought that this is something that required their urgent attention. they were able to get out helicopters last night to use infrared cameras. They've got drones up. They've enlisted the help of the customs and border protection, obviously not too, too far from the border there in Mexico. They have some special resources. The FBI is also aware of this case as well.

Just given the nature of what they found at the scene, that's what's got them so concerned. We're withholding some details as we would do with any investigation to make sure that the investigation can go forward without us interfering in it. And Tom, we think it's important to note once again, the sheriff also mentioned that she has no cognitive issues. I mean, she has some physical ailments that impact her movement. But what that might that tell investigators? Well, that's exactly right. And I think any time we talk about somebody who's in their 80s or older, you know, we think about those cognitive issues. People can get confused.

There can be mental health ailments as people get older. All of us have dealt with that in our lives with family members. And so you think about that, whether somebody got lost, whether they left their house and it didn't quite know where were going. That's not the case here using the phrase, a very alert, very sound mind in the course of that press conference last night. And so this is somebody who they don't have those concerns about. There are some physical health concerns here as well. And I think that's another reason why investigators are focused on this. This is not somebody who would have perhaps the physical means to go very far from their house. They have not found this person in the course of the search

and rescue. And at this point, they don't think that Savannah's mom had any sort of mental issues that would have led to her leaving her home. Tom, what kind of? of questions and avenues will investigators explore moving forward now? Yeah, I think it's going to be a two-pronged approach today. First is the search and rescue. I mean, we certainly hope, and obviously their hope is that they find Nancy okay, that she's going to be all right, and they're able to take care of her. And so that's the first thing is the search and rescue component of that because of the

foothills and the nature of Tucson, it's one of the things the sheriff talked about last night. They have a lot of experience doing these search and rescue missions. They have a volunteer search and rescue operation that's engaged with this as well. So that's the first concern. Can we find Nancy and find out where she is? The second concern is going to be what they found at the house and the evidence that they found there. And that's something that they're hoping can help give them some clues as to what might actually have happened, which of course could eventually lead them to Nancy.

So that's going to be the second component of this investigation. I think that's why they're asking for the public's help. You know, we've seen in every major case, every time I've been on talking with you this year about some sort of a, whether authorities were trying to look for somebody looking for clues. They rely on people to reach out with the videos that they have at their homes. Certainly, I'm sure they're looking for that video, but they want people in the Tucson area to call in those tips, or if they have any video of anything suspicious in the area where Savannah's mom is located,

that's something they're going to look for as well. Video is going to be critical. Is there a car? Are there individuals? Anybody suspicious, anything out of the ordinary that they can use to start to track if there was anybody leaving that area, anybody leaving the scene, or where she may have gone,

that would be hugely helpful as well. I mean, do they see her walking down the street, walking in somebody's backyard? All that would be so helpful. All right. Tom, thank you. And while the search for Nancy continues, people have floated theories online as to what could have possibly happened to her.

And while Nancy does live alone, she does have regular help from staff, some of whom have been in contact with police already. And police do have Nancy's phone and are searching through her home footage. So I would think that if her disappearance has anything to do with anyone who knew her, saw her, or helped her on a regular basis, that phone will be incredibly helpful to the ongoing investigation. And I do wonder what they might uncover on that cell phone. others online are speculating wondering if nancy's disappearance could have potentially had anything

to do with her daughter savannah not if savanna had any part in her disappearance but if there could have been a fan gone rogue or someone who knows who savanna is because of her status as a public figure and could have done something to her mom but there is no confirmation of any of this Although Savannah's name was brought up during the press conference, and Sheriff Nanos said that they have been in touch with Savannah's security team. Has Savannah got three? She had any threats to herself? We've spoken to her. We'll continue to work with that. She has a security team that's been in touch with us throughout the night. But we're not going to dismiss any angles for sure. But right now, immediately, We don't know of anything like that.

Is she in town or on the way here? She's here. Right now, since authorities are keeping a very tight lip on why they know that this is a crime, I do just want to give some more background on Nancy. Nancy is and was, according to her family, a strong woman. I love that adjective, strong. In 2012, Savannah wrote this about her mother. She is whip smart, funny, full of integrity and wisdom.

She also has the best sense of adventure. She's always up for something fun, end quote. So after marrying her husband Charles, Nancy and Charles, the two of them lived in Australia, and then they had three children together. Their son Cameron, followed by Annie, five years later, and then the baby of the family is Savannah, two years after Annie. She was born in 1971. When Savannah was two years old, her family relocated to the United States in Tucson, Arizona,

for Charles's job, where they created a life and raised their children. Nancy was a stay-at-home mom juggling motherhood and marriage while Charles worked as a mining engineer. Well, Mom, you guys came here in the 70s and you'd been moving all around. What made you want to stay in Tucson and plant roots? It's so wonderful. Just the air, the quality of life is played back and gentle. I like to watch the havalina eat my plants. But the best thing about Tucson is coming home. Yes.

Should we raise the glass? Frickly Fair Margarita. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Love you. Love you. And then in 1988, Charles suffered a heart attack at just 49 years old.

His obituary states he was on a mining exploration project in Mexico when he passed away. And his death rocked the Guthrie family, both emotionally and financial. Savannah has actually previously talked about living at home during college because her family could not afford a dorm room. In 2017, Savannah wrote an article about her father where she stated, quote, my father was a seemingly unlikely mix of qualities, always strong, sometimes terrifying, loyal to the end, and disarmingly gentle and tender when it counted. He was also tall, affectionate, and funny. He had that. He had that. personality that people describe as lighting up a room. He was a 5,000-watt bulb who could turn a mundane trip to the post office into a rip-roaring tail. People adored him and gravitated towards him. But for all of these wonderful and magnetic traits, the one I remain most grateful for is his integrity. He had an unbending notion of right and wrong. His moral clarity was demanding and sometimes intimidating. But he tempered it at the moment you most needed and least expected it

with kindness and mercy, end quote. She then went on to say, for some reason, I never forgot the time he took my sister and me to the movies when we were little. We were just beyond the age where we could have gotten those under 10 tickets for a few dollars less. And I remember asking my dad, why don't you just get the kid tickets? The cashier probably won't know how old we are. are. And I'll never forget what he said. I'm not going to sell my soul for $2. So despite the tragedy and difficulty of losing Charles, the kids went on to do remarkable things. Cameron, a military pilot who is now retired, Annie, a writer and jeweler, and then Savannah, a nationally known journalist who has undeniably made it to the top in her industry. All three of the kids

remained extremely close with their mother, Nancy, throughout the years. And four years ago, Savannah shared a tribute to her mother on her 80th birthday and saying she's lived a life of integrity. This is the time of day we do a boost. But this isn't just any ordinary boost. This is a special one. Hoda, you were so sweet. You shared the morning boost with me because it is my mom's 80th birthday. And I'm hoping this gives her a boost. My mom, Nancy Guthrie, was born this day. Nancy Ellen Long, 1942 in Fort Wright, Kentucky, carrying that family trade of round cheeks and curly hair and blue eyes that continues to this day. She's lived a life of integrity and loyalty. She is a consistent doer of the right thing and the hard thing.

She's a truth teller, whether you really want to hear the truth or not. She's quick and she's smart. She's well read. She's curious about everything. She's daring and adventurous. She's willing to jet off anywhere. And I really do mean jet. She once got in an F-16 and four ride.

She has met unthinkable challenges in her life. life with grit without self-pity with determination and always always with unshakable faith. She loves us her family fiercely and her selflessness and sacrifice for us. Her steadfastness and her unmovable confidence is the reason any of us grew up to do anything. She's going to be embarrassed by this, but I hope a little pleased because when I think of her, I think of that old proverb, the one she taught me about the woman of noble character. It says her children will rise up and call her blessed. And so we do. Happy birthday, Mom.

Happy birthday, Nancy. She's turning 80. You've got to get a little special something. That was beautiful. And you told me recently that the reason that you were confident that you were going to have veil was because your mother told you it was going to happen. Yeah, she did. I believe her. My mom, she's a truth teller. So she doesn't, she doesn't BS. If I guess I can say that, sorry, mom. And she when I was in my 30s and wasn't sure I would ever have kids, she said, of course you will, honey. Nancy, you will have your family. Wow. Nancy's also a woman of great faith. She is.

And the conversations I've had with her. She always talks about that. She is. She's an inspiration. Happy 80th, Nancy. Happy 80th, Mama. Thanks today's show for letting me do that. Nancy's disappearance forces us to confront a reality that is often overlooked.

Elderly adults can be uniquely vulnerable to crime, especially when age, isolation, health, and trust intersect. When older adults are home. harmed or go missing, their cases too often receive less attention than other cases. They receive less urgency, despite the very real risks that they face. And that's why Nancy's case matters beyond this moment. It brings elderly victims into sharp focus. Here at Hidden True Crime, we've seen this before. Last year, we covered the case of Marcia Norman, an 82-year-old woman in Washington, a quilter, a traveler, a devoted. mother and grandmother. And like Nancy, Marcia had a loving family. And like Nancy, she was living

alone. Marcia was reported missing and later found brutally murdered. Her killer was someone she trusted her handyman, Jeffrey Zizz. And Jeffrey Zizz wasn't just her handyman. Jeffrey Ziz was a former preacher, a man with a master's degree. He had children. And after allegedly using tools, including a nail gun, to torture and kill Marcia. Investigators say he buried her body beneath a shed, pouring concrete over her remains while working another job the very next morning. And what makes Marcia's case even more disturbing is what came before. Ziz had previously been convicted of severe sexual crimes against his own young daughters

and was originally sentenced to more than eight years in prison. But under Washington State's special sex offender sentencing alternative, he served less than one year behind bars. It was actually both the state and defense that asked for this sentencing alternative. With the court document stating, this recommendation is due in large part to Mr. Ziz taking responsibility for his actions and the victim wanting him to be in the SSOSA, program, end quote. Never mind that the victim was a young child who would, who would or could be

coerced into making that statement about her father. Nonetheless, the Department of Corrections made this recommendation due to his candidness and no prior criminal history. Court documents describe Ziz as compliant, willing to do treatment, assessed as a below-average risk to re-offend. And after his release, Marsha Norman was dead. She trusted him inside her home. She should have been safe and she wasn't. Marsh's case really matters. It's about a system that failed her and about someone who plotted and planned to hurt a vulnerable elderly woman after sadistically earning her trust and she should have been able to trust him. We'll have a link to her story in the description of this episode. And Nancy Guthrie's disappearance also really matters. While we don't know yet what happened, it forces us to confront

how easily older adults can become victims when trust, isolation, health, or dependence intersect. In cases like these, the danger isn't always obvious and the people closest to an elderly person may be helpers, caregivers, neighbors, or professionals who appear safe on the surface. This doesn't mean someone harmed Nancy? At this point, we simply don't know, although, let's be honest, a homicide detective at a press conference is a chilling indicator pointing at the deeply concerning possibilities. But Nancy's disappearance raises difficult questions about how society protects aging adults, how warning signs can be missed, and how quickly a person can vanish when vulnerability meets opportunity. Thankfully, thankfully,

Nancy's friend called her family extremely fast, and family and police responded swiftly. Thank goodness. And until answers emerge, Nancy's case remains a reminder of just how complex, fragile, and high-stakes-these situations can be. This is heartbreaking. A woman who, as a widow, continue to flourish and nurture her children and keep them close, a doting grandmother and a family matriarch, that is missing under terrifying circumstances. As we continue to learn more about Nancy's disappearance, hidden true crime will bring you every verified update and development. Because when someone like Nancy vanishes,

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