Hidden True Crime - IDAHO FOUR: EXCLUSIVE Interview with Moscow Neighbor Inan Harsh

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

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I have a very important guest with me right now, somebody that I hope can bring us more insight. I am with, you know, will you pronounce your name? Ina. Enon. Enon Harsh. Enon Harsh. Also known as Chef Disney.

as you see there. Enon is a very, very important part of this Moscow homicide investigation because he was a neighbor of the four victims who lived on King Street. And I, really, I just want you to share with us what you know. Many also have heard of the neighbor that possibly heard a scream. This is that person that I have with me now. So, so let all let everyone know this is going on. We'll try to take some questions as well. But right now I'm going to start with my questions because I have a, have a lot of them. I want to thank you for being here. And first off, I think we should just start by taking us back to that night. The things I've heard in the news from you, Enon, are that it was an unexpectedly quiet night. You wrote about the crime on social media and share what you remember from that night. Is that a good place for us to start right now?

Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I work about like 10, usually like 9 to 11 hours shifts. So I went to work. I got off around, I think it was around 12 that night. It was kind of like a late close. And I like bullshitted with like. a coworker for a little while after work and then I went home you know it's

around I don't know like 1 30 to is sham maybe when I got home maybe and you know I always I'm always like kind of hoping that I have like a parking spot right in front of my my door when I get there because like lots of times on campus you know there's like parties and like they're pretty full and so like this time I noticed that like I don't know, it wasn't really really any cars as usual. It's like, cool, I'm going to get a nice spot right in front. And there was, you know, like I did, and I saw like this sort of like kind of like decked out like luxury. Like I thought it was black SUV, maybe like a beamer or something.

And I had like rims, tinted windows. And I was like, oh, that's like a pretty cool car. And then like, you know, coming out, like I noticed some like plates from like. Arizona I want to say or Montana there's kind of like you know it's like always like kind of like you know different plates are like around and stuff it's usually you just see like Idaho especially in like my parking lot and so like I came in and um you know it was like surprisingly like pretty empty that night like none of the houses and like that on those like two streets or having parties which was like kind of unusual and then I went home

I was like making some tea, just like doing some contact staff drills and like, you know, stretching. I think I played a game of league. And then I went to bed and then as I was falling sleep. It usually takes me like 30 minutes to an hour fall asleep. Like, I don't know. I guess, you know, I dismissed like initially like, you know, like one of my neighbors returning hello. After me. So I heard like, you know, a car shut, a door shut and then like, you know, an apartment door shut.

And like also, like a scream, but like, you know, that's like, that's like normal. Like I always hear like screaming almost every Saturday night. So like, I don't really like think of it. And so, but like, yeah, just looking back, I was like, I wonder, I wonder if like, you know, that wasn't just like some drunk dude like screaming, like it's actually like the murder. And yeah, and it was like, it was kind of a trip having like the cops like come on. And like, we know when it happened. They're just like, you know, asking where we were.

were like this is weird like they're knocking on every single door in our apartment like that's never happened before and then like I went inside and looked on the news and it was like four people stabbed to death it was like it's like right across street it was like holy shit yeah yeah um wow yeah when did you hear about it was was it those knocks on the door you woke up the next day did did these knocks on the apartment door like how did you learn about it i was already awake you know I was just like woke up a little bit. I was still like drinking coffee and like the cops knocked on my door. And like after they asked me some questions like right after they left and started like,

they were starting to talk to the next, you know, the next door over. I looked on my phone and Googled it and found it pretty much instantly. And that's like that's what I knew. And then I think it was like, I don't know, a couple days later when we like the names were released and we like found out who it was or whatever. Okay, that was the question I was going to ask. Like did you initially know that you knew them at all? or did you just know actually when I first saw I saw the picture I saw I thought it was actually the house like the next house over I was like oh but then when I found out it was like you know the house of the people that I like I don't want to say I knew them but you know I was like met them um then I was like damn and I don't know it was kind of sad but actually you know like they were super cool like I really like my neighbors um yeah you'd met them is that correct you'd met you'd met Kaylee and Who else had you met?

I think it was Santa and her boyfriend. Okay, okay. And I think there was like some other people there, but I'm really bad with names. So like I think those, like I had to like look at online like the faces to try to like remember them because it was just like it was super brief, you know. But yeah, they were super, they were super nice. They're super friendly. Yeah.

I don't know. They're like the best neighbors you could have you could want. I have a question here that you mentioned. hearing a lot of sounds typically from the neighbors. Is this because it's highly populated, poorly insulated? Tell us a little bit about the neighborhood. Because a lot of us, you know, all we see is only on the news. We're trying to grasp what this neighborhood is like.

I guess you would say it's kind of like an amphitheater here. You know, it's like they live kind of like down like the hill. And then it's like a big open space. Everything's made of wood for the most part. And like they would have little like gatherings outside. on their like in the back door and so uh i mean and then you know they're like chicken a little bit and it's like yeah you can like you can usually hear like parties and like just like you know uh social drinking chatter you know like around around the block or whatever like

usually on weekends um it's kind of like you know similar vibe of like what you'd think of like a small downtown city you know like but you Yeah, that makes sense. Frat houses, two fraternity homes probably have a decent amount of parties going on. If it's a college, is that? You know, also the block parties are kind of popular too. Like, they'll kind of like, you know, like getting big crowds and they kind of like wander around. You know what I mean?

Just like go throughout campus and stuff. Not so much lately, but, you know, like you go from like sometimes they only stay at a house for like an hour or two. and then they kind of like wander around stuff. I guess it's in the winter a little bit less, but yeah. Okay. Go ahead. I'll sorry. I'm talking about the question.

They were at like, I want to say one or one-ish p.m. 1.30. Okay. So shortly after the police were called then, in other words. Yeah. Yeah, they came almost instantly. Okay. It's a big deal. We have another question here.

Are you a student? How long have you lived there? I'm not a student. I've been cooking for like six years now, five years. I've lived here off and on for 20. What was the last question? I missed it. Let's see. It was, are you familiar with the activities at the house? I assume they mean the crime scene. You were at their house when you met them, right? I'm referring to your Reddit. They were actually outside. I never went inside.

But no, I didn't, I didn't like, I was in my apartment all night, so. Okay, the night of the murders or the crime you were in your apartment all night. I never, and I never really hung out with them. So, like, you know, to me, they were just like some normal sorority girls that drinked every once in a while on the weekends. So. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay.

And, yeah. And when I was asking you about meeting them, I want everybody else to know you know and I know, but you also decided to share an AMA on Reddit recently, which is when I reached out to you and you did kind of mention meeting them, or at least Kaylee and maybe you think you might have met Zana and her boyfriend. That would be Ethan. Bringing them a bottle of wine, perhaps. Was that what happened or share us? Can you take us to me? Yeah, because I think the person I think I remember most is Kaylee. Like when I introduced myself, I think she was like the first one I shook hands with. And yeah, I just had like this. It was a pretty nice bottle of wine. I don't know what kind of was, but it was pretty expensive.

And I was cooking with it and I wasn't going to finish it. And I was like taking my trash starts. I don't remember I was outside. And then they were just like, you know, like chit chatting and drinking a little bit, playing some cool music. And so I like went down and they had, they were like drinking some beer. And I was just like, asked her if she wanted this bottle of wine. I wasn't going to finish this. And they were like, yeah, fuck yeah.

And then I was like, yeah. And then I was just introduced, I like the neighbor, like a little upstairs. And, yeah, that was pretty much it. Yeah, they were super, super nice and smiley. So I was pretty much I remember. I never met him after that. You know, I was like, you know, I always thought about crashing their party sometimes, but I never actually like did it.

I usually got my own thing going on. Yeah. Yeah, you refer to them in the Reddit AMA as beautiful, joyful. I can't remember the other two adjectives. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They seem powerful. Yeah. And some of my coworkers actually went to high school with them in

quarter lane. So it's like it's a trip for us. So, yeah, and they said they're super cool too. So it's crazy that, you know, it's like, you know, when you think about these people getting stabbed, it's kind of, it's kind of like horrifying because it makes you think that it can happen to anyone, you know, like not just like people who are doing some shit. You know what I mean? Like just like normal people every day. I think that's the really like spooky, scary part right now to some people.

Yeah. What's your thought about the luxury SUV now looking back? You probably didn't think too much of it then. Any ideas? No, not really. It was like it's pretty decked out. I think it, I think, you know, how like Rams into windows. You're just like a cool car and that's why I noticed it.

But I didn't like, you know, I just assumed there was like one of the, you know, the people's parents, like a lot of, a lot of the students here have really rich parents and they have nice cars. So that's just kind of what it, you know, like seems like to me. And I don't know, I saw like, I think it was, it was a kind of like a deserty. It might have been, it was either like Arizona. It might even been Colorado, but I think, or like Montana. And like I saw one of those, one of those cars, like parked up on the, on the hill of a lot, a lot. I'm wondering if there was a white atlanta. I'm thinking back and I can't remember, like I don't want to say it was or not, but that was the only other car I noticed that didn't seem like

someone that lives there, I don't know. I'm not that observant, but I'm pretty, I'd say I'm more observant than like most people, I guess. Yeah. Liz is asking, did you know that your coworkers knew them before or after? No. No, one of the, like the next day I went to work, I had one of the dudes talked down and talked to me. And, you know, just like, asked me how I was doing and talk and you're always telling me how, like, knew some of the people or something. And like, it's like, well, that's crazy.

But I mean, that's like, Cortalane's pretty local, you know what I mean? So, like, it's not that far off. Right. And that's where you work then is Quarter Lane. No, I work in Moscow. No, I work in Poland, sorry.

You went to high school with them in Quarter Lane, and you work in Moscow. No, I didn't go to high school with them. One of my coworkers did. Okay. I went to school in Pullman. Okay. All right.

Sleuth Mom, it's good to see you. I want to let people know that for those missing, Sluth Mom does a wonderful job covering important cases. Thanks for being here with us, Sluth Mom. You know, there's a, there's some audio. I wanted to ask you this, because you've come forward and said you may or may not have heard a scream, a scream. You know, you're thinking about it now, wondering if it was a party sound you heard or if now, if it was an actual, you know, scream you heard. There has been so much speculation going on, you know, online and social media. I know you know that. You've been a part

of that we'll talk about that later but um there's been some audio making around to the scream and i was just wondering if you could confirm that um that was nothing you provided to any media anywhere because a lot of people are trying to make connections there i didn't i didn't hear about it till basically people were were telling me and in things like this and i was like oh l-l-oh-well uh yeah no complete hoax Yeah. I'm nothing to do with it. Yeah. How many views has it got?

You know, it's on multiple channels, so I couldn't even tell you how many views the screen received because there's so many different outlets, not official outlets, but YouTube. Yeah, I didn't report anything. I don't see how I would record something after I hear something unless I was already recording, which I wasn't. Yeah.

You know, you've mentioned that you're an artist and that you're a chef. Do you ever stay up late doing your craft, working on things? Do you ever hear what's going on around the neighborhood ever? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I'm usually listening to something. So, I mean, I'm usually like zoned in on whatever I'm doing. But I guess, you know, it's kind of like on like the parties night, you know, like the like, I don't know,

the parties are kind of just like noise to me you know so like i hear that and like every once in a while like i'll hear you know like somebody returned home really late in the night but i mean it's like semi-normal like 3b-4 a m like that's not that late people go over to people's houses and they hang out for a long time and then they come home on the weekends like that's just like college life i feel like um and like sometimes i'll just like listen to some music in my bedroom to like kind of like tune out like anybody who's like super super later loud um and then something sometimes like you'll hear just like people walking down like you don't know sometimes yelling but not like it doesn't happen like I don't know it's not super super loud but it's like you know

it's campus it's noisy but I mean it's like you can hear what's going on I guess sort of like what's close vicinity but yeah it's usually it's usually just noise like there's nothing like it's new one of us too I guess it's kind of weird I guess like you know you can kind of like our walls are really thin so like certain places you can hear like certain areas outside or inside whatever but i don't know the place i think you can hear in that in that neighbor's house i guess is like in the house is like the yard i feel like the yard is the place where you can hear the most things like so if you're going to hear something that happened that house it probably be the yard like i feel like probably the sounds inside i'm guessing wouldn't carry as

much um just because like again i think that yard is sort of like almost an amphitheater set up a little bit. You know, it's like, it's got the hill and it's like down a little bit. And then above it is like the parking lot in another hill. So it's like, I don't know, it's kind of like a meteor like hole in the sense. And so like I think probably like, you know, like in the middle, the sound probably resonates around. That makes sense. And you can call me Patches is also saying college towns are just noise sometimes. It's hard to tell what's what. A request for, clarification back to the SUV one more time that you saw can you clarify i don't think so you're saying you don't i don't know though i don't know she drove a for i don't

know for it's not that luxury to me i don't think i would have noticed that i mean that's it's a nice core but i don't think it didn't stand out to me i don't know i just stood out to me because you know like i drive kind of a sketchy car um and it's kind of decked out and it's like i don't know i noticed like I've always been into like, you know, cars with like rims and tinted windows and stuff like that. And so it was like one of those cars, I'd be like, man, probably if I was younger and rich, I probably would have bought it. So I think that's why it stood out to me. But yeah, it just, you know, it kind of seemed, it seemed like, you know, either a baller or like somebody's rich parents. That's kind of how I saw it. Yeah, that makes sense. What are, what's the speculation?

Do you talk to neighbors? What are people saying about this? No, I'm a hermit. I'm super hermit. I don't really talk to anyone. I talked to a few of my really old friends. I talk to my co-I hang with my coworkers sometimes. And most of the time I'm I'm super busy in my crafts. Like, I don't know. I have a, yeah, and I have like, I don't know. There's like a girl I hang out with and that's about it. Okay, okay. Does it make you nervous at all that this is unsolved? Do you feel nervous? A little bit, yeah. I mean, it's pretty brutal and like, I don't know, thought out killing, I guess. Like, it's like kind of scary and it also kind of scary that it just happened to some ordinary people. So I think I think everyone's a little bit spook now. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I guess in the city, this shit's like semi-normal or whatever but you know like not here like I don't know so I think I don't know it's it's kind of scary that that this would happen ever like especially especially in this town so yeah and it's like you know it's like you think about it's like what kind of protection can you get these cases like you can lock your windows you can like you know put strips and stuff

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You know what I mean? So like thinking about people doing that out, especially like on your block is pretty spooky. Yeah, absolutely. It is. And thank you. Hello from England. We are so sorry to hear such a horrific crime they said. Thank you so much.

Have you talked to law enforcement since that. first day they came over and asked you if you'd heard anything? Yeah, I did once. Once? Did they come over to the neighborhood again to talk to everyone or did you go talk to them? No, I wouldn't. I just talked to them later. Okay. Anything else you want to tell us about that or is that a off-the-record thing? Okay. That's off-the-record, chef. Thank you. And by the way, this is a channel where I will ask a lot of questions,

but I also respect my guests for those wondering if something's off the record or you don't ever want to answer. That's all you need to say and we move on. So thank you. You know, you've been, you posted on your Facebook. I have, I'm going here, by the way, to my phone to look at questions that I have written for you. And I'm also getting questions over in chat. While I look, you know, you have mentioned on your own social media pages and even posted some of the proof that you've been getting harassed yourself and feeling the wrath of true crime sleuth and speculation. Can you tell us a little bit about that or what you've been going through? Yeah, I don't know.

I think it's kind of, I mean, it's almost hilarious to me that people think I did it. And they're like sending, they're like telling me like, yo, you know, you did it. And it's like, I don't know. It's kind of like the equivalent to like flat earth theory to me when I like read some of these like Reddit conspiracies and shit. I don't know. I've been mostly ignoring it, but, you know, try. Sometimes, like, really gets to me, but I don't know.

It's the other time, it's just like, it's almost entertaining to me. But it's a little bit scary, too. I'm like, where are these people trying to get me? But it's whatever. Yeah. Chessire Kat is saying, are there cameras in the area? Do you think anyone might have been able to catch anything that happened? I doubt very many.

Nope, there's not a lot of deaths or break-ins or murders or really anything that happens here. A lot of people either doors unlocked, windows unlocked. It's generally pretty safe. Our apartment complex didn't even really have lights in the hallway or cameras until like right after. Then they put up like some motion sensors and stuff. But like there's like for the most part this neighborhood is like pretty dark and we kind of I don't know, I kind of liked it, you know what I mean? It's like, you're that night, like, there's no lights.

You can go sleep really easily. But yeah, I don't think very many people have cameras because they don't really feel unsafe in this neighborhood or whatever. Most people know people too, so it's like whatever. Yeah, it's not a really sketchy neighborhood, you know? Like, just a bunch of college kids. Yeah, I don't, I know, I know apparently someone

that has had like door set neighbors. I know, like, you know, just in the 21st century, a lot of people have, like, security cameras. So there's, like, probably some stuff around. But it's, like, me, like, I have, like, I bought a door, a cam for my car just, you know, in case, whatever. But it's, like, it's been, like, you know, like, it's been, like, you know, like, that's how face. That's how, like, that's how, like, that's how, like, safe. You know, it's like, I just, like, never really felt a need to, like, actually put it up. But now I'm, like, I should definitely put that shit up.

I wish I had it up now. You know what I mean? Yeah. Would people sleep with their doors open in this town? Is that kind of the... I don't know about that far, but I'm not going to say it's never happened. I accidentally walked in somebody's house because the door was open and I was trying to go to a friend's house when I was like 17.

And I like open it up and it was just like some through some college. I was like, oops. Shut the door back to halfway. It was like, oops. Went to the next house. It's like, oh, cool. This is the right one. Yeah.

A lot of people are just asking for confirmation, which I actually really value. As a journalist, I was a television reporter for 10 years. It's really good to hear and see things and then to ask for more confirmation always. So they're asking, is this actually you commenting on Reddit doing the AMA? Yes. Yes. This is him. Thank you. Thank you for answering that. Thank you, Sleuth, Mom, for reminding people that this is very true. I'm trying to read everything in chat and some moderators are helping a bit, but it's, I am missing some things. You can send and post something in a super chat or lead something in comment, but I don't know if we'll have the same guest again.

So I'll do my best, though, to get to your questions. And thank you again for being here. A lot of thank yous are coming through for you being here and coming forward. So what, have you heard anything about the alcohol offense at 3 a.m. Do you know about that? It was on the, it was behind the Sigma Chi house, and we have body cam footage from that. Do you know anything about that? Uh-uh.

I haven't. The first I've heard of it. I don't really pay attention to the media or news, really, at all. You know, I'm a stick juggler. I kind of in my own world most of time. But, yeah, no. I don't, you know, I'm like, I'm super hermit. I live like one of the most introverted lives you can imagine.

But no, I'm curious, though. Tell me about it. Well, it was, and I already have one correction. Thank you to everyone in chat helping me with these little details. It was on the band field. It was about 3 a.m. There's body cam footage now that has come out from it. It was the morning of the murders.

So people are, you know, zeroing in on different things they're seeing in the body cam footage that was released, taken on the band field at 3 a.m. And I know that you sometimes hear things not always. You say you were asleep all night. What time did you go to bed that night, by the way? I don't know. I'm probably around like 2.30 to 4 a.m. I don't really look at the time after I get at home.

So it's all just like an estimate. But, you know, that's probably the range based off of the activities that I was doing. Yeah. One more confirmation having to do with SUVs, but now this is about Kaylee's or something. Can you confirm if there was a black explorer that was parked there daily? It was parked behind a red Jeep inside the crime scene tape. I don't think it was that one. No. I'm going to review the footage again, but I don't think it was that one. Did you see a black explorer that was parked there daily with crime scene tape around? or did you notice the vehicle?

Yeah, I think so. I think I noticed a lot of like dark SUVs and I just kind of assumed they were like FBI or police or something. But this was like this, I'm pretty sure this other car was different. And it had out of state plates. That's one of the things I noticed about it.

I think this one didn't have out of state, the Black, the Four Explorer or whatever. I don't think that had out of state plates. I could be wrong. But this one definitely had. It was like, I almost want to say it was Utah, honestly. but it was like barrenish.

It was not, it was hard to see, but it was like barren place, like deserties, like Arizona or Utah, Colorado, Montana. It's like mountainy maybe, I mean, might have been mountainy, but yeah. So those are, I only saw two cars that had out of state plates. Okay. Julie is asking genuinely curious. She's not being confrontational, and I can confirm that because Julie is a very curious person. Volta chilems. She's curious.

Why would an interview with a party town? Go ahead. Sorry. This is the only place I could afford with vaulted ceilings so I could juggle at home. I need like at least like 10, 11, 12, 13 foot clearance. So it's hard to find. The apartments like that are hard to find anywhere. So your opinion, like the ones with vaulted ceilings are usually like luxury places.

So you have to pay like a premium form. So this was cool. I was living in Pullman, so I was like paying a lot. And I had a, because of my felonies, I couldn't really move anywhere for seven years. So after seven years, I instantly moved into the first place available with vaulted ceilins. This is where I ended up. Gotcha. I will admit, I've been admiring the ceilings in your, in the background.

They're beautiful. Those wood ceilings. Yeah, pretty dope place. Yeah. Miss Wales asked, did the dog bark lots or did you know? And I think they're referring to. I didn't know the dog. No, I never met the dog.

I didn't know there was dog until pretty recently, actually. Someone asked me why the dog was spared, and that's the first time I heard about the dog. Okay, okay. And did you hear any dogs barking ever? Were dogs typically barking in the neighborhood or nothing? No, not really. Not usually. It's usually decently quiet at night, I feel like.

Sometimes, I don't know. I usually don't hear a lot of animals, honestly. I feel like if, you know, my cat will maybe make a dog bark every once in a while, but that's about it. Yeah. Yeah. Again, our deal here is you don't, you know, this is like, consider this like Reddit AMA. You can answer any questions here you want and you don't have to answer any questions you want. But Jamie is asking, he says, where did it go? someone was asking this was not it but somebody was asking if you wanted to go further they mentioned you had a felony and you talked a little bit about this on a reddit AMA do you want to go into that now or i've got three well i don't have three anymore they're they're expired so they're off my record now um as of like three years ago so it's been like 10 years but yeah i had three uh had a possession of marijuana uh had a possession of mbMA with intent to deliver and i had a delivery event dm a okay thank you for sharing that oh and let's see we lost

you for a bit are you back yeah can we hear you okay we can hear you all right um thank you stephanie b for reminding everyone that's here to please uh if you like these types of interviews hit like and subscribe it helps us uh know what we should continue doing as a channel and liz is asking this is a great question and i want to take this question a little bit further uh she is asking has there have there been any normal parties at the sigma kai house since it's no any parties or has it been really quiet i haven't i haven't really noticed anything since then um but i honestly haven't been really uh i haven't been home as much lately on the weekends but um yeah it's been pretty quiet honestly no because you know there's definitely no parties at the house recently and um

i think i think there was like maybe one but i can't really remember anything outside that it's been it's been pretty tame recently okay yeah has it been quieter around town since this event yeah i mean it's also also like you have to think about too like the cops are everywhere right Nobody wants to party. Like the cops are like, like, like, there's like probably like 20 cops parked in like the parking lot next our neighborhood. Like, and there's like probably like another five like in the house like all day. There's always one that's there all night. So it's like I don't think anyone's trying to party with, you know what I mean?

Like for whatever reason. So it's kind of funny. I thought they were like, you know, just trying to like speed trap and pull people over for like the first. a few weeks, but then I realized that they're just like, they're just nonstop working on this case. So they're always here. But I'm sure I'm sure people are trying to throw parties without happening. You know what I mean? Right.

Totally. Liz, thank you. And I want to correct my words. I called what has happened four weeks ago an event. What I mean is an absolutely horrendous crime and tragedy. Forgive my sometimes not the best words I use. I don't mean to. Lives can be hard while I'm multitasking with chat.

There was a great question from Julie Holden. I don't see it now, but essentially, has the restaurant you work in without telling us what that restaurant is, has it been quieter? No, it's, I mean, people can't stop telling me about the conspiracy theories. And it's actually been providing a little bit of humor in these times because they're pretty hilarious individuals. So, like, I don't know, they just keep, like,

making fun of these new conspiracies and so it's been it's been an interesting time for sure um the first week it was really quiet i didn't say like probably like really anything for the first few days like i was out work after it happened but you know after a few weeks you know it's it's starting to get better um i don't know i have a the other day i was thinking about it and i was pretty quiet but you know i we've been trying to like i don't know it's best to just try not to think about it, you know, right now. But it's hard also because, like, we're surrounded by it everywhere. Right.

Yeah, speaking of speculations, you know, you live in the neighborhood, which means there was somebody that, you know, did this. Do you speculate without naming names? We don't want to name any names or anything or identify people on our channel, but do you ever speculate about who could have possibly done this? I mean, for sure, but no one fits the bill. Honestly, when I think about all my neighbors, I'm just like, no way. Like, everyone I think even like, you know, who might kill them at the like the slightest

and convenience, it's just completely irrational and ridiculous. Like any, when I think about any like individual personally, like any personal like neighbor, like anyone in this area on this like there's no way. Like they're all like pretty normal people. They all got their own shit going on. To think of them doing this is just. absurd but so with that being said what none of your neighbors fit the bill what type of person do you think this might have been um i'm looking into the i don't know if it's true but someone i was looking into

a report that said it was like almost a blunt heavy object and a really strong person did it I'm kind of imagining like maybe like a hunter dude, like some like mentally super mentally ill dude who's maybe experienced with hunting who has like some type of like farm blunt stabbing object and just like really waited patiently until everything was really quiet like maybe knew about this weekend was being quiet and then went in there and did it. But I don't know, it's like, it's so bizarre, like nothing. Thinking about, it's hard to think about it because I think the first thing I try to think about is a motive. And that's like, it just draws me into a bunch of blanks. So yeah, but I mean, there's like, you know, there's surrounding areas that have like this have a history of lead poisoning. So like, yeah. We lost you for a bit or at least on my end.

Um, if you want to try to, I'm going to try to refresh this and see while we can see if we get him back, uh, to ask him more questions. Somebody's asking if he was paid for this interview. Absolutely not. This was something I requested and he willingly did as volunteer. There, uh, he is not being paid and hidden shoe crime has never paid for an interview. Um, nor have we been paid for an interview. We've done. Nothing.

Um, chef dizzy. if you can hear me try refreshing we'll wait for a little bit longer i am seeing chats they are going very very fast uh stick with me here to see if we might have fully lost him now um but again we'll wait for a little bit and see if you can't get back on the link um correct thank you colette uh he was not compensated he did not barter and he did not ask for anything in stage for this interview and then again i want to go further while my husband and i have been doing interviews with News Nation. Today I did one with Inside Edition and some other places that haven't aired any interviews. We've never been paid for any interviews. We have done.

We believe in the journalistic process and all sharing what we know to help. I think we might have genuinely lost him. I'm going to just check my messages to see if he's writing anything. I don't see any messages from him. I'm going to check one other place. We've been messaging a couple of places. Oh yeah. Some great questions coming in. Perhaps we'll have him on again. Everyone was really respectful and asked great questions. Perhaps he'll join us again.

Until then, I want to share that you can follow. My husband and I hear we're going to do another Friday night live. We call them hidden hours about the Moscow murders. And we hope for justice. This is a horrendous crime. And the more we learn, the worse it gets. I hope everyone's taking care of their mental. health, everyone that's following this because I'm going to be honest, it's affected mine.

In addition to that, there are some wonderful groups to follow. I'm in a lot of them. I want to let you know that one group I really appreciate that's following this case intensely is true crime underground. Oh, it starts with Idaho for True Crime Underground. That's a Facebook group. They do mini groups for different crimes, and that is a great one to follow. the Idaho four and it's a little bit

I think smaller so everyone has a voice in there oh one second he is messaging one second all right the interview is done his phone overheated actually and he doesn't have a webcam

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