Hidden True Crime - Latest Emmanuel Haro Updates + On The Tira's Ahmed Bellozo Joins

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

Join Lauren and she goes over the latest updates in the Emmanuel Haro case, followed by an interview with boots on the ground reporter, Ahmed Bellozo About Hidden True Crime: What started as a sim...ple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:33 investigators announced that they no longer believe that Emmanuel is alive. And now we're learning that Jake himself may be cooperating with police and the San Bernardino's search and rescue team to recover his son's remains. For weeks, many speculated. Even right here at Hidden True Crime
Starting point is 00:01:51 that Rebecca might eventually turn on Jake now that the two are separated behind bars, maybe even trying to strike a deal to protect herself. But in a surprising turn, it looks like Jake may have been the first to break. Sunday afternoon, a photo surfaced online that shows Jake Harrow dressed in his jail-issued jumpsuit and escorted by investigators as they searched along the westbound shoulder of the 60 freeway near Gilman Springs Road in Moreno Valley. Cedar dogs were also brought in to assist.
Starting point is 00:02:22 And so far, baby Emmanuel has not. been located. But the fact that Jake is out there with investigators suggests he may be finally acknowledging what police have believed for some time that Emmanuel is no longer alive. It also raises the question, could Jake be trying to work out some kind of deal in exchange for leading authorities to his son? And of course, there's also the possibility that he doesn't fully remember where Emmanuel was left, given the vast terrain, or that he could even be stalling just to get a break from his jail cell. That's what many have speculated. But regardless of his motives, what we're seen is movement. And movement means progress in this case. There have also been reports that the day
Starting point is 00:03:11 before Rebecca and Jake were taken into custody, Riverside County Sheriff's deputies responded to a call about possible abuse in Moreno Valley. Well, this wasn't at the couple's home in Cabazon. Authorities confirmed that the call was directly connected to the Haro family. And at this point, details, they're limited. And investigators have only said that the abuse investigation is ongoing. What we do know is that the Haro's two-year-old child has already been removed from the home for safety. But there's also speculation that the call may tie back to Jake's ex-wife, who recently
Starting point is 00:03:47 filed a domestic violence protection order against Jake for herself and their son Eli. It's not clear yet if those allegations are what triggered the deputies visit or if there's another layer to the story. But in a live interview, I did Sunday night with Ahmed Bezos, citizen journalist with On the Tira. He speculated on possibilities. And you can find that interview in the full playlist of this case. That is linked, as always, in the episode description. While we have also learned this is interesting that Rebecca has now given her very first interview from behind bars. On Sunday morning, she sat down in the visitor area of the Robert Presley detention center in Riverside. And even from jail, she stuck firmly to her story, yeah, the kidnapping
Starting point is 00:04:39 story, the story that Emmanuel was kidnapped and she wishes she could be out searching for him. through tears, she reportedly said, quote, I will not give up. I will not give up on my baby, end quote. But that statement feels especially jarring now, given the latest developments like murder charges, and the fact that Jake may actually be helping investigators search for Emmanuel's remains. When asked about claims that just days before reporting Emmanuel missing, she had gone into the Big Five sporting goods store and told employees, her car had been broken into while asking about surveillance cameras, Rebecca shook her head and denied it. She was asked that.
Starting point is 00:05:23 She denied it. She doubled down again saying all she wanted was to be free so she could look for her child. Rebecca also opened up a bit about her personal life saying that she and Jake were married in 2021 and that she knew about his prior abuse case at the time. Still, she described their relationship as wonderful. Yes, that's in quotes. It's wonderful, insisting that Jake has always treated her well, as well as her teenage child from a previous relationship, their two-year-old daughter, and Emmanuel, that Jake allegedly
Starting point is 00:05:56 treated them all well. She even called him a good dad, adding that he would never hurt a baby. That's in quotes, he would never hurt a baby and a good dad. That statement raises a lot of eyebrows, including mine, especially when you consider Jake's history, he and his ex-wife were both charged in a horrific abuse case involving their daughter, Carolina Rose, who has since been adopted, renamed Promise Faith, and now lives with permanent disabilities because of the abuse that she endured, severe, severe disabilities. Rebecca didn't even bring up her two older daughters at all during this interview. She did, however, confirm that she has an attorney. representing her, though she declined to share the name of said attorney.
Starting point is 00:06:43 There's also some strange new development surrounding the horror home itself. And honestly, this one, yeah, this one sounds like something straight out of a movie. Not long. After Jake and Rebecca were arrested, deputies say they had to return to the house following an apparent break-in. And here's where it gets even more bizarre. Report surface that someone may have actually been trying to sell tours of the property, treating the active crime scene like some kind of twisted attraction while the horrors sit in jail facing murder charges.
Starting point is 00:07:16 According to authorities, someone forced their way in through the back door of the residence. And soon after, video started popping up online. One TikTok clip shows sheriff's deputies at the scene with groups of people gathered at the gate after the neighbor had called in to report the break-in. Take a look. We're inside here.
Starting point is 00:07:35 We were right here to the guy kept trying to offer people to. Why would you think that's okay? Why would you think that's physically okay? Mentally okay? This is the place. You need to watch what you say, because I didn't go in their house. Can you tell people I went in their house? Have I pointing at you?
Starting point is 00:07:52 No. You did a minute ago. Yeah, you did. Whoever I went like this. Whatever could make a big mistake for me. You should think about it. You're on the street. You're making this ruckus out here is a disgrace.
Starting point is 00:08:06 You guys are actually like this. I started acting like this as they put it in here. I didn't bring my name into shit. I think when nobody's walking a little. I was getting there, but I didn't walk right there. I, and I told them. I did walk right there. But I'm not there,
Starting point is 00:08:25 but I did not go in their yard. A bone, but we don't know what that bone was, like an arm bone, the neck bone, it was a bone, just a rib bone. It was in the back, um, okay, so in the backyard, in the backyard. I don't know, there's no fence blocking it out. So there is a fence blocking where that door is open and that's where I saw those two right girls go in and they told straight out. They told all of us they went outside the house and put it in. So I know it was them, but they went in the
Starting point is 00:08:54 house. Well, and that's, I wouldn't want to. Like, there's no way I would go inside. That's just creepy to me. The sheriff's department has since confirmed that the home was re-secured. And detectives are now actively investigating who was behind this alleged tour business. Officials are reminding the public that entering or tampering with a crime scene is a serious criminal offense. And in this case, Therahra residents is considered a key piece of evidence in this ongoing investigation. An investigation, I might add, that is about a murdered baby. Any unauthorized entry not only breaks a law, but it also risks content. evidence and jeopardizing the case, which means jeopardizing justice for little Emmanuel.
Starting point is 00:09:44 We've also learned quite a bit about Jake's attorney, Vincent Hughes, who is widely regarded as one of the top criminal defense lawyers in the San Bernardino area. Now, I know that some people have sort of made fun of him and how he acted while being interviewed by Ashley Banfield on News Nation, but listen to this. Over the past several years, Hughes has secured dismissals in cases ranging from misdemeanor domestic violence, reckless driving, abuse, abuse, and prostitution charges to much more serious felony allegations like rape and DUI. In multiple felony cases, including drug and firearm possession, child cruelty and domestic
Starting point is 00:10:23 violence, he has successfully negotiated reductions to misdemeanors or probation, helping clients avoid lengthy prison sentences. Hughes has also handled high-stakes drug cases, including one involving over 80 pounds of methamphetamine where a client facing nearly 40 years in prison, instead received probation. He's even protected the professional licenses of clients, such as commercial drivers and nurses, by reducing DUI charges. Overall, his track record shows a consistent ability to minimize penalties, secure dismissals, and shield clients from the harshest consequences of the criminal justice system. This could explain why Jake chose him as a lawyer.
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Starting point is 00:13:37 dot com slash remove protect yourself now at aura dot com slash remove i am with the one and only amed beazo he uh is our boots on the ground reporter on the tierra on all platforms instagram ticot is that where you're uh most doing most of your reporting hammed yeah so uh ticot instagram facebook Facebook. Thank you everyone for being here. We already have 2,000 plus people in the chat. Thank you, everyone. Everyone here cares about the search for missing seven-month-old Emmanuel Ara outside of Yucpa, California. We learned today, Ahmed, that Jake might actually be helping with the search for Emmanuel, so it seems. And I'll tell you today, I was flying back, by the way, I was out of town. flying on a plane, searching update, seeing that you were saying possibly that Emmanuel had been found. Then I'm hearing Vinny possibly from court TV saying possibly Emmanuel is found. I'm seeing videos of law enforcement with Jake Harrow, the baby's father.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And there was so much happening and so much going on. I actually reached out to you. And I said, Ahmed, will you come on tonight just to tell us what you are seeing on the scene, what we know, what we don't know. there's so much confusion and what we we want the real time details. And I realize that maybe there's some tips that you're receiving that aren't fact. And maybe there's some facts out there and some speculation. Just give it, give it to us and just let us know what might still be unfounded. What maybe is speculation? What is fact? What are you seeing right now as a boots on the ground
Starting point is 00:15:25 reporter out there? Well, thank you. First of all, thank you for the warm introduction. and the welcome and to all your followers as well. My name is Ahmed Beioso. I'm the owner and CEO, executive branch of Andatira. And I have been the K-Swiss on the ground, or as we like to call it. So let's make the first correction.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Okay. Swiss have entered the chat. So let's start there. K-Swiss has entered the chat. I don't wear boots. Not yet. So anyhow, no, but in all seriousness, moving forward with this case involving this little boy, Emmanuel, you know, I just found out
Starting point is 00:16:09 today maybe possibly his birthday month and that he might possibly be nine months old today. Really? And so that's breaking news that we've uncovered because nobody really knows his real birth age. He's been seven months for who knows how long. And nobody seems to have seen him in the timeline that we have gathered through the information of our constituents and the community and social media. I mean, we get a lot of messages. We get a lot of leads.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And sometimes it's a little bit overwhelming to sit there and try to decipher which one, as you said, you know, which one pans out and which one does it. And then, you know, I might say things that sometimes ain't all the way accurate. And I'm chasing Mount Tail here. So, like, sometimes I, like, you got to give me a little bit of slack here. It's not like I have an editing team. And it's not like I have, I have like 50 messages in 50 minutes. And I'm, like, trying to get to all of them. So it's very, very, very overwhelming for me.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And so thank goodness that I have my beautiful HR, which is my girl. And so when you see me, you see her. You just don't see her. You know what I'm saying? But she's there. Yes. And so it is both of us. I want to give you guys some tips of some of the leaves that I find to be just a
Starting point is 00:17:31 little bit questionable. So as I said, he might be nine months old today, but I can't verify that because we have been looking for his birth certificate or some sort of information, but I just can't find where he was born. I don't know anything. Now, the timeline of Jake's incarceration comes into play for me. Now, I know that he did do a little bit of time a few months back. I don't know exactly what because there's so many, there's so many calls, there's so many logs, there's so many that home was under a lot of scrutiny when it comes down because I even posted the call logs for the past few months and it was like domestic violence and you know it's just so much you can go back on my feed and if you really want to go you know it's a lot but it ain't that far back we've only
Starting point is 00:18:19 been investigating this for seven days or nine days excuse me so it's not like you have to go 10 months back to try to figure out what I'm trying to tell you so one of my questions right now is Jake's incarceration. So how do we even know this is Jake's baby? Do we even have DNA yet? Now, her brother, Jake's brother just passed away
Starting point is 00:18:39 on the 13th, but he buried him on the 13th. He died, I think on the, like, maybe he's very similar. I keep saying the third, the third, and I'm not no psychic. I ain't no medium. I don't play that.
Starting point is 00:18:49 But I'm just saying, like, my leads all lead me to somewhere around the third. That's as far back as I could get that I know definitively that she had that black eye to the, third, right? And we haven't presented the evidence yet because we have video footage from the
Starting point is 00:19:05 Waterman Disccom Mall and the owner of the facility inside of the Waterman Disccom Mall. I don't know for those people who don't know what the Waterman Disccom Mall is. Picture an indoor swap meet, you know, a Rancho style mall, a lot of vendors inside, different products and whatever. And so it's one of those strip mall type buildings and inside there's a shop. I don't want to say what kind of shop it is yet because obviously their investigation is ongoing and the owner that shop has relied in me to not
Starting point is 00:19:36 disclose his information. He doesn't care that the cop together, he knew the cops were going to get at him because he got out the cops first. But the cops don't always answer everything in real time. Maybe not as fast as I do because it's right. That's true. We're looking for you. Exactly. And that's why. Well, I build this
Starting point is 00:19:52 report with the community that sometimes they don't want to get involved and I'm already in the thick of it. And so they'd rather just give to me and I'm very reliable when it comes to keeping my sources confidential and not even the police know who my sources are unless my source tells me, hey, yeah, go ahead and that's on you. So I don't get involved in none of the legal beagle stuff. I'm just a reporter. Right. That's it. I don't get involved with none of that. So let's just make that clear. But going back to Jake and his incarceration, his brother comes into play and then it makes me wonder,
Starting point is 00:20:23 like, how do I even know this is Jake's kid? How do I know that the brother, Or like, how do I know this is some sort of, this dude has a violent pastor, really, the brother. He has a kid from a previous marriage that has mental, permanent brain damage because of something that Jake did that happened while in his custody. But then we've also found out that eight years prior, he was with a woman at a Walmart. And we haven't found out which Walmart it is just yet. But so there's an incident that now coming out of Marino Valley that he might. be tied into some kind of violence there. I don't know if somebody pressed additional charges on him.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I haven't been able to fact-check those, but I know that there is some sort of investigation leading back to, like, just this week. So he got new charges out of Marino Valley just like a couple days ago. Really? So, like, they're adding charges to him. And so I don't know who tacked these charges on, but they are in the same manner of child cruelty. But he does have another child.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I don't know if it was a male or female, I believe it was a female. He had a child with. another woman at the Walmart and I have there's a family that worked their mother, a daughter, and a son. And they all worked at the Walmart and they all messaged me and said, Jake had another kid eight years ago and they co-parented for a little bit. And it didn't work out. But in one of the instances when the child was in Jake's custody, it developed permanent brain damage as well. And that's eight years ago. So he has two children right now with permanent disabilities caused by the first one no no police charge were filed because nobody ever thought
Starting point is 00:22:03 that the dad like she didn't know what happened to her kid so and these are not speculation these are all already been like you know it's just it's all coming out on the sofa as I like to say you know and and so now we know that he has another child a eight year old that with that's incapacitated then we have a promise faith right promise faith is the eight year old and yeah so you heard Okay, so at least one, okay, so then at least it's not. We know about promised faith, but yeah, we didn't know about the other one. So there's another, okay, and you guys can all find that out, and I'm sure no developments will come out later with that. But, so like, as you can see, I'm piecing that together with this, and then I'm trying to figure out, this is the Marano Valley case?
Starting point is 00:22:49 And then at the same time, I got, now they're arrested, and we've been there since day two. I never met Rebecca. I never seen Jake until today. I seen him today on the side of the freeway off of the 60 Westbound heading into Murna Valley coming in from Beaumont where they had a major, major search and rescue operation with San Francisco Regional County Sheriff's Department, Rearsight County Sheriff's Department. This is tonight.
Starting point is 00:23:14 This is tonight. This is today. Today. Today, while you were on the airplane, while you were messaging me, I was out there and we had gotten a call. And like I want to get to that part, you know. Okay. I want to get to that part, but I want to fill your viewers in with all the clues that I've got.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Like, I don't want to just give them the meat and potatoes. You know what I'm saying? So if you will allow me. I know. Keep going. I allow you. Keep going. Yes. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:43 By the way, thank you so much. Yeah. So we started this case on the 15th because I was getting a lot of messages. on the 14th when it happened, but I get a lot of missing kids, uh, post. I got a lot of missing people, especially with all the immigration things that are going on here in California. A lot of people are coming up short and they're saying it to me because I have a vast audience. And so I'm getting all these men, I, it's not, it's not uncommon for me to get a missing child. This is what I'm trying to say, right? I'm like the new milk carton on the theater, right? And so I started getting
Starting point is 00:24:16 this, uh, thing from this little boy, Emmanuel, Emmanuel, and, um, every, I'm not going to alive from first from the very first post that I seen in him it the case looked just entirely strange just from his image alone I thought it was AI because his face looked bless you his face to me and I'm not trying to be in any way disrespectful but his face to me looked a little off like maybe deformed or something like he had yes and please correct me if I'm wrong but he looked no you're right A little, yeah, he had features that just looked irregular to me. And so it caught my attention. I don't remember what I was doing that day because obviously I'm going through my own health issues.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I'm fighting cancer right now myself and I'm doing biopsies and I'm in my own health trips. So I might have been down that day on, you know, medication and I just really didn't pay attention to him. Honestly, I just didn't. So then the next day, I have my DMs are just flooded with people sending me this little boy. And now I was like, okay, now I'm paying attention. I must have felt better. And so HR and I, we go and we head over to Yucypa to the Big Five because, you know, that's what I do. So we get over there and I meet Mary Von Hauser.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Rebecca wasn't there anymore. But there was already a group of people because, you know, they have like a makeshift memorial. They haven't did no vigils or nothing like that yet. Like developments are still coming out. I had seen the reports where she's in there. And then the first thing. I caught my eye with a Shiner answering the chat and I said
Starting point is 00:25:51 that Shiner's been there since like that's an old Shiner. I've had Shiner myself and I know that on day one you're like this if even maybe day two you're like that but on day one you definitely got a lot more going on than just exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:07 So that was my first red flag and I'm not investigate I'm not a like I'm not a crime investigator. This is very like my second case. I had a previous case before this where I trying to investigate. It was a cold case. Kind of led me nowhere. And so I left it alone and people really just wanted more information. I just couldn't provide anymore because not even the police had anything. So I didn't have nothing. So then when this case came in, I didn't think that I was
Starting point is 00:26:32 going to turn national. Like I really didn't think. I really thought that, you know, I never suspected it would be this way. And but something threw me off with the grandmother too. Like she, I noticed the mother didn't cry. I noticed the father didn't cry. And then I noticed, the grandmother didn't cry. And I noticed another woman next to her. And I'm like, who's this woman? And she said, oh, this is her other grandmother. So she had two grandmothers there, and they both didn't cry.
Starting point is 00:26:58 So I'm like, what in Sam Hill is going on in you, Kuipa? I mean, Louise. So whatever. Like, I've never, like me personally, I've never lost a sibling. I've never lost other than my father, but I barely knew him. So I never really experienced death other than my homeboys. But homeboys come a dime and dozens, so especially on the theater. But once you're gone, you're gone.
Starting point is 00:27:23 I never really experienced death in my family other than like distant cousins or like never like me. To this day, I've never really lost somebody that I really care about. And so I would imagine that if like I lost somebody that I really loved, I would be very, very distraught. You know, you cry over a divorce. Why wouldn't you cry over your missing baby? Absolutely. You cry over a stubbed toe. Why wouldn't you cry over your missing baby?
Starting point is 00:27:50 And I'm just thinking, okay, maybe they were cried out. But they didn't look swollen. You know how when somebody's cried out, their eyes are like swollen because you've been crying. Lodgy everywhere. Especially you're not going to stop crying. You're going to be crying all day long because you're so helpless. And so, and I know now because I felt that emotion through this little boy, not, you know, like, you see me in the depth. And, like, I'm literally passing out over this kid.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And so, like, I understand. the wide range of emotions and I was trying to give in the benefit of the doubt. I really was. And I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, not no more. There's no room for that anymore. People are still saying, oh, they still thinking we're trying to recover a missing kid. Like, come on, are you city? Are you, like, are you not, like, like, are you not picking up what, looking for some kid here now, walking, what, down the park with a shitty diaper? Like, no, we're looking for, we're in recovery process now. And people don't want to hear that. They hang on to,
Starting point is 00:28:46 through the hopes of this. And trust me, nobody wants this kid home more than me, bro, but he's gone. He's gone. And for those of you who don't think he's gone. And I don't know how more serious I can say it. It's just, he's gone. And we got a taste of that today in Banning, or excuse me, in Murdoinnell Valley. And so we've been to the house, right? We've shown the stroller. We've gotten leads that Cadar Dogs have been here We got We got the video of her
Starting point is 00:29:20 Not There was nobody in that vehicle There was nobody that got out and said Ola That's from a show on Netflix Really? Yes You didn't know?
Starting point is 00:29:34 No Yes, there's a show on I thought it was called the Taco movie But it's not It's called something like Sensational or There's a show on Netflix, it's not a show the S.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And there's a dude that comes out in a taco suit and he has a taser in, I don't know if it's an episode or if it's like the whole show. I haven't watched it. But sensible or something like that. And this guy comes out in a taco suit with a big old funky mustache, just a stereotypical taco, I guess.
Starting point is 00:30:00 And he just like, Ola, and he's literally in a parking lot. And I'm like, this chick must have been watching Netflix right before she murdered her boy. Because why would you say Ola? So it says it tells me that she's possibly trying to divert attention towards Mexican nationals. Yeah. Like, what she can think she's going to start kicking down the door at the Home Depot,
Starting point is 00:30:21 looking for the like supposed kidnaper that was. And for one, you don't see white when you get knocked out. I just got knocked out the other day right in front of Emmanuel's house. I passed out and I didn't see white. I didn't see nothing. Insatiable. Some people already didn't see. That's it.
Starting point is 00:30:40 That's it. Go back. Google that shit. As I like to say. Wow. No, it's okay. We're good. And good.
Starting point is 00:30:48 So anyhow, and then it's just, maybe she was like a, maybe she was a true crime or herself. Maybe she was a South Parker because all her, like this, they already, like,
Starting point is 00:30:59 I was watching a South Park episode, not that I didn't watch it, but it popped up on my FYP. And I was watching this episode of South Park. And I'm like, damn, they're fast because they already did it. And it was an episode from like a long time
Starting point is 00:31:10 ago and basically mimicking exactly her case. And I'm like, like, is this chick really like going into the Netflix, uh, Metaverse to pull out like her whereabouts? Because she's like in two different shows already that I see that are just like exact projection. And I don't even watch TV. So it's not like I'm projecting these images of TV because I don't watch nothing.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I'm out there doing news all day long. Yeah, you are. I'm on my phone. I ain't watching YouTube, bro. I ain't watching podcast. Who was time for that when you're on? I don't have time for that. I'm following leads.
Starting point is 00:31:44 So anyhow, I go, the second day, immediately after I talked to the grandmother, they broke her down on my page. My story obviously went viral. The grandmother, they were like trapping her up saying, who is, you know, why didn't she showing no emotion? And da-da-da-da-da-da. Like I said, I don't ever put my personal opinion in my cases because I don't think that's fair. As a reporter, I have to remain unbiased. I have to present the story the best way I can remain as factual and let the viewers conclude, like make the viewers draw their own conclusion.
Starting point is 00:32:18 That's when you ask, what do you think? It doesn't matter what I think. Right. What I think holds no weight here. I'm going to tell you what I see. I'm going to tell you what I know. I'm going to tell you who I've talked to. And whether I'm right or wrong, it doesn't matter is for you to put the pieces together
Starting point is 00:32:33 and then you make your own conclusion. Isn't that what you're going to be? Exactly. And we've been watching real time for that reason. because we want to know everything going on. And you retract. I want to say thank you. During today when there was so much confusion
Starting point is 00:32:45 and you did state, Emmanuel had been found, as did others, you were the one that put out a retraction. And not everyone did that. You did that. So I appreciate that. I just want to tap in on that.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Just thank you for bringing that up because I didn't think it was a big deal because the way I look at it is like, it was understandable for me to walk up. I see cadaver dog. I see 30 people in orange jumpsuit. I see Jake. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Jake Harrow is out there. I see the helicopters. I see like, I see a lot. Like, what do you think I'm going to think? Like, I'm not a state of brothers buying cereal and all of a sudden I put out of report that, hey, we found me. No. Like, so you have to, like, come in some slack, bro. We all thought, you seen the same thing I seen.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And so we all thought that we have found the body. So, of course, I'm going to say that. And so even when after we left and everything, and you know what? I want to say thank you to one of it. Because, you know, these deputies and these officers, they're not a lot of talk. During the act of investigation, that's why people are like, go talk to them. I'm like, I'm not going to talk to it because they're working right now. I don't need me asking, hey, what's going on over here?
Starting point is 00:33:51 Because no, man, I'll figure it out myself. I'm not, like, I'm pretty smart. And so 9 out of 10, I get it right. But in this instance, I had an officer behind me watching me, hearing me say all my things, saying, we found the body and, you know, we found it a little in my net. I was very emotional myself. obviously I really thought we did and so
Starting point is 00:34:10 after I ended the live he said hey how do you know you found the body that's what he told me and I was like what didn't they and he's like did somebody tell you that and I said no and he's like okay well I haven't seen nobody
Starting point is 00:34:26 so I said thank you bro so I went on my Instagram instantly because I want to let my Instagram viewers know too because I try not to cut either one of them out Because I know that a lot of people don't, they don't, you know, it's a lot of people out there. So I try a piece to everybody. So immediately after ending my live, I jumped on IG live on my backup because I'm not a lot of going live on my main account for hater reasons, you know, how it is on this metaverse.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And so we go live on our backup account, which has the underscore. So for those of you who don't think it is me, it is me. That's where I go live directly to my people. So I went directly over there. and I already knew that what he was telling me. Like, he didn't have to say nothing. So right away, I went to Instagram, and that's why it's very different.
Starting point is 00:35:12 If you look at my, and they're only like a minute apart. The lives are a minute apart, you know? And so it's like I immediately changed my story. And I said, you know what, guys, I know I was over there saying this and this and that, but I'm letting you know right now that we haven't found nobody. In fact, it looked like we have, but we didn't. And so then I got home,
Starting point is 00:35:30 and I knew that a lot of people didn't catch the live. So I got home. and I made a quick brief video, a little 20-second video saying we have not found it. Nothing has changed. They have not reported anything. And I'll let you guys know as soon as we hear it. And that's it. And I haven't heard nothing since.
Starting point is 00:35:47 So they haven't found him. But what, like if you ask me now what I think, my personal opinion. Tell us what you think. Personal opinion. Ahmed's personal opinion. What do you think? I think that it's a big desert. And I think that they went to try to buy a hacksaw.
Starting point is 00:36:03 at one of the local hardware stores. I think they were cleaning up. So, I mean, who knows it could have happened? They could have, they could have threw the, like, they could have threw the head there and the body and cabazon, and they could have through the leg. Like, who, I don't know what they did because it's clear that they're already in extra mode. They're doing the most.
Starting point is 00:36:25 They went to a Home Depot somewhere close to where they live, and they bought all these, they bought lie. they bought carpet cleaner and I broke the story that I told you guys before anybody not that word it's erased because it's not but the reason I'm telling you
Starting point is 00:36:41 that I broke the story that they had found blood in the laundry room now that was you that was you I said you've broken a lot by the way you've broken a lot I broke it all
Starting point is 00:36:51 I broke it all I broke it off you yeah I broke these fools off home me on the Tira they never been broke out the way I broke that's how I get down
Starting point is 00:37:00 you know what I'm saying I know what you're saying. That's why you're here right now. You're here live tonight because you are breaking everything. I broke. The Waterman Discount video in 4K. That was you. That was me.
Starting point is 00:37:12 The Marlene's jewelry video. That was me. The video from the Bada store, that was me. The video from the TNC Taco, that was me. Everything was me. I know. The lead that we got to, you type of church. That was an excellent lead because there was a stroll.
Starting point is 00:37:31 and they have video and the stroller now came into play. I are, I, uh, shout out to, there's so many content creators out there that had videos and they just don't have the reach I have. And so they're, they understand that they're not greedy.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And I always tag every creator that or any creator, if people want to be tagged, I tag them because I understand what the game means. Like I'm not a, I'm not a gatekeeper. And I understand credit where creditors do. And I don't steal, there ain't copy and paste here.
Starting point is 00:38:00 That's one thing about. me, if you're going to get with me, you're going to get the meat potatoes, homie, like, that's how we say in the, you know, in Mexican culture, for those of you who don't think I am Mexican, I am. And Emmanuel just, huh? No, go, keep going, keep going. Keep going. No, Emmanuel, you know, Emmanuel is just, it's, and this story just captivated me.
Starting point is 00:38:21 He's a little boy, you know, he's only seven months old, as we believe. I had a son. I went to prison when my son was one month old, you know, because I was just. in my own addictions, in my own crisis, and I just hadn't got it yet. I have been in and out of prison. I did 23 years in prison. For those of you who don't know, I was raised in Los Angeles County foster care system at 10 years old during the crack epidemic of the 1980s.
Starting point is 00:38:46 My foster brothers and sisters were all out crack babies. My first fight was with a crack baby. The first time, and I know it's funny, it's fendent on now, but it's crack back then. And it's funny because my crack brothers and sisters all end up being bloods and crew that I was all cool with in prison. than 20 years later because we were all in there together because we all got ran through
Starting point is 00:39:05 the L.A. County foster care system including me. I'm my sister. I'm my brother. So like, I know trauma. I was raised in it. The first time I ever told was in the war of L.A. County. Like, I've been through like anyhow, this is not about me.
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Starting point is 00:39:45 MinkyKouture.com, the original best blanket ever. I read an L.A. Times article highlighted you earlier this month before this story was even a thing. And I want to say I have pinned that article in chat and it is in the description of this video. And it talks about your time in prison. It talks about so much and why you do what you do. And I just want to say I was so impressed. It's a redemption story and it's also a story about the changing landscape of news and how you have a following and you are doing what we want in news. And as you just said, there is speculation.
Starting point is 00:40:29 There is fact. There is retraction. But you share it all while you're on the scene live in real time and people can figure it out from there. So it's a new day. It's a new day that we live in with social media. Everybody's a reporter. Just like everybody's a singer. Everybody's a model. Everybody's whatever they want to be on social media because who's going to tell you no? The only one that's stopping you here is you. And so when I made myself a reporter on the theater, I knew that I had to be very different because they're not going to respect me. So I did a lot of work. I removed the tattoos off my hands. I had tattoos
Starting point is 00:41:02 on my face, I had a kiss right here, I had knit, like I did, I went to therapy. Like, I fixed myself a little bit because I knew that nobody would take me serious if I come out here looking like just, you know, Johnny B reporter, homie trying to be all up in everybody's mix. I'm, it's not going to work. So I had to put in a little bit of elbow grease myself and I'm still doing it, you know, even down to fixing my teeth. Like, I'm fixing myself and this has been a process. I've been fixing myself since I've been fixing my teeth since 2019, 2020, or 20, 20, 20, or whatever, like I've been fixing my teeth for years. So it's not, I didn't just get here and I just all of a sudden this report or like,
Starting point is 00:41:38 no, I thought about this. I got to a point in my life where I really wanted to fix, not only myself, but hopefully try to leave my mark in the world so that, you know, I could feel compensated for all the things that I've done. And I just give me back to the world now and just some small piece, not only for them, but for myself, because trust me, I'm feeling my own soul here. It's not just, it's give, give, but I'm also feeling my own cup because I feel like I've been a burden on myself and on everybody else on the state on the system and I just I want to
Starting point is 00:42:07 contribute now back and I just don't apologize for it anymore and whoever doesn't want to be part of this train you can scroll just like you scroll on these dating app act. Scroll and roll, right? Scrow and roll right. Scrow and roll. Right. Yeah. Just push.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Keep on pushing. That's how I am. And you know what? Those are my boundaries and those boundaries had led me up to this moment that I just don't take no BS or nobody and I don't give it and I don't give it. And I don't give it. Trust me. I have no friends.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I live a very, very solitary life now, but it leaves me the time to not pay attention to nobody. Only the things that I want in my life. And right now, I want to find this baby. Yes. And thank you. And thank you for sharing a bit about yourself. People are wondering. And we need more redemption stories like yours.
Starting point is 00:42:48 And your reporting is real and it's honest. And I see your efforts. You fainted on scenes. So when people, there are someone in chat just now that said, why are we talking about him and not Emmanuel? Because if you want to know. It's a part of the story, bro. So if you don't know about me, how you ever going to get to him, like, like, you got to know who I am too, because it's not you just giving me, that you just give anybody any information, like, who am I? So if you don't want to know about me, then what are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:43:14 Who are you watching? People just want to complain about everything. This little boy's gone. We have an hour here to talk. And if you don't want to know about who's the man investigating, maybe that says something about you. Because I would want to know who is this man that's all up in the midst that everybody's talking about. Why should I believe him when he has all these problems? probably because I tell you, I went to therapy.
Starting point is 00:43:33 And I fixed myself. And I know how to talk. And I read books and I'm fairly educated. And one thing I don't do is judge. And one thing I would never take away from anybody that's the only one out there. So for you to sit there and judge me and tell me, don't tell me your story. Nobody care about your story. That's why you're not here.
Starting point is 00:43:49 So go back to typing, homie, because right here nobody cares. We're trying to find this little boy. And this lady here wants to know who she's talking to. So spends on the theater, homie. She tracks to the back. Oh, me. Give 113. you don't know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Thank you. You got check on the yard, homie. I need a little bit of me. You're teaching me. I'm a very, look, I'm a very different person on social media than I am. That's one thing I want to relate to my followers is that I'm two very different people. When I'm on camera, I'm like Hillhouser. I try to get everything up because that's how I gained the respect of the white people.
Starting point is 00:44:27 That's how I gained the respect of the brothers. That's how I gained the respect to the Mexico. because I talk to everybody. And I know how to talk to them and I know how to talk to professionals. I could hear a conversation to a senator and I know how this law, I know how this country works.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I know how a bill is passed. I know, like I understand the power of the veto. I understand the justice system. I know about the branches of our government. So for somebody to tell me who is this guy and why we talk about him? Because maybe I could teach you a thing or two all me. And I'm sorry, I don't mean to be like that with these people,
Starting point is 00:44:56 but this little boy right here, he's gone. and we hope to find him. And Jake is out there trying to find his, you know, Jake is out there. I don't know if he's trying to find him or is he leading him on a wild goose chase. I don't know if this guy's covering up for his baby mama.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I don't know if he's like, I don't know nothing. He could be telling the truth. For all I know, the animals might have got to the little boy, for all I know. But cadaver dogs didn't seem to pick up a cent because if they did, they would be scarring that mountain still. They'll be, they didn't pick nothing up in the side of the mountain because these cadaver dogs are very, very good at what they do, and they did not find anything.
Starting point is 00:45:33 So why Jake was, nothing. No, they didn't find a sin. They didn't find absolutely nothing because if they did, they would have been up that hill still. Then dogs would have got it. And Jake and Rebecca ain't going to be to an hour up that hill. They were right there. So if they would have dumped him, they would have dumped him right there somewhere or down that embankment. It was about a 100-foot drop.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Like, there was not really nowhere you could go. If that's where he took him, then that's where he was at. For some reason, they said no. Do you think then that Jake is it, Jake did take law enforcement to where he believes Emmanuel was and they just, something's happened? Or do you think Jake is leading them down a false lead? Like I said, this little boy could be in pieces. They might be recovering the arm here and a leg there and a head over here.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Like for all that I might be scattered all through the desert. Like we just don't know. We could see here and speculate, but for me to, like, I don't know. that question. I have insider information, but you know what? None of my sources have got at me. And since they left, like you seen, we all seen the search team all left information. I got the video of Jake leaving. They took him out. By the time I got there, I don't know how long they were there, but they had been there for a minute, at least an hour. And as far as journalists, other than the air, I was the first one there other than the police. Because,
Starting point is 00:46:59 my, you know, I get these, I get these tips and I got these sources and I don't know who they are. A lot of the times, they're probably detected themselves. They might be firemen. Whoever it is that my sources are, they don't tell me who they are. They just, I know they're credible because they've led me on multiple, multiple leads that just tan out. And so I know who, I know when I get a lead from a certain person, like I already got, like, lead number one, lead number two, lead number three. And so like, I know these people are credible. So when they told me get to Gilman Springs, I jumped in my car.
Starting point is 00:47:30 I've been in bed since the day I fainted. You guys haven't seen me much out there. I've been here resting. And we went down there, and it was just a crazy scene. I really, really thought that they had found him. It made me sick to my stomach. My daughter was with me. She started crying on the freeway.
Starting point is 00:47:48 My girl stayed in the car. When they seen Jake, they're watching my live because they're my moderators. and they're watching Jake in real time, and they've been chasing this man with me. And so to have Jake, like 10 feet from me, and me right there, and I'm not going to lie, I want to bop by myself,
Starting point is 00:48:08 but I said, I had to compose myself because I'd be right there with him. And then I can't do what I'm doing because then I've got to deal with that. And so it's just a fine line. You got to check your emotions. You have to fully understand what's going on. Like, I, like, it was,
Starting point is 00:48:24 I felt like I was in a movie, honestly. I felt like I was in a movie. I got the perp here in a red jumpsuit, shackled up, that detected. And I know these detectives. I don't know. I don't know them, but like I've seen him at Cabazon.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I've seen him in Yucayput. I've seen him. Like, I've seen these officers. They were there. The officer that was there when I fainted, he came up to me today. And boom, at the 60 freeway, and he's like, I'm mad.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Are you okay? How's your health? And they gave me water. And that sounds good. And he said, I was the one, I was holding you in my arms when you passed out. And I was praying for you. This is the detective, the lead detective on the case. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Just to show you how involved that I am that, like, I had the lead detective holding me. He had to stop what he was doing in trying to find the killer of this baby to tend to me because, like, I'm right there too. And just that instant, it was my turn. Like, I scared my girl so bad. She thought I died. She thought I had a heart time because I had a real serious issue, you know. Yeah, for those that missed it, and we did share it on our most recent update, as, as, as you know, what did you say? Hidden True Crime has entered the chat.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Is that, that? Hidden True crime has entered the chat. Okay. They love that. We shared, we shared that you fainted while on the scene and you fell hard and we saw you after and you do have cancer. You have cancer, leukemia? Is that accurate? And you're going through chemo.
Starting point is 00:49:54 It's not leukemia, but I do have cancer. We're still back. Okay. Okay. We still haven't pinpointed. But we knew that my cancer has returned. I'm a former cancer patient. I had AML 12 years ago and I'm in remission.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I did bone marrow transplant, stem cell transplant, chemotherapy. And I've been in remission 12 years. And, you know, now it's came back. So I've been scared for 12. I'm not scared anymore. I'm in this fight now. So I don't have that. I don't have a luxury anymore.
Starting point is 00:50:22 My family's scared now, but they were scared for the past 12. I was. So now the table is slipped. But I'm fine. I'm in no pain. Like, I'm not on any medication other than my cancer meth. Like,
Starting point is 00:50:34 I'm not, you know, because I struggle with opiate abuse my whole life. And I'm proud to say that I'm still sober, three and a half years, even through this cancer bout. Well done. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:45 I'm not taking no kind of medicate, like no drugs, no drugs. And so that day when I was in Cavazahn, it was pretty hot. And I got a call from the detective, I don't know, some detective at Riverside County. And he's like, hey, I'm mad, get to Cavazone right now. And he's one of my leads. So, like, get to Cabazon right now.
Starting point is 00:51:10 So you knew. You knew. Yeah, he sent me a video of them gearing up the bearcats. So I was like. You have some good sources. A good source is a good journalist. It was 100% legit. And I was, and I woke up my girl and I was like, come on.
Starting point is 00:51:25 So that's why you seen her barefooted. That's why you seen her with a hoodie. It was like hot out there. Like she just literally jumped out of bed as did I. And we shot down there. We got there about 30 minutes after the raid. Thank goodness that we have constituents everywhere because we were provided raw footage of the actual barricade. That's the one that you've seen where we posted the bearcats, breaking down the fence.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And, you know, and so even when I'm not there, my constituents are. And so let's not get a misconstrued that we haven't built this networking chain because it's not just me. It's you. It's all of us. I would not be there if it wasn't for you. And the good thing about me is that, like, I don't even have a job. Like, this has become my full-time employment. I'm self-sustainable.
Starting point is 00:52:13 And I don't have to go to work. So when these people that are reporters or these people who really, do care and they don't get out of work until 4 p.m. They could send me, like, they're out there. And, you know, when I'm not, they are. And so that's how we built this wonderful social. I think this is what social media was intended for. This is exactly what social media was intended for,
Starting point is 00:52:36 for us to help each other instead of break each other down, instead of gossiping about each other. There's people out here really trying to break up marriages on YouTube. There's people out here really trying to teach our children and how to be inmates. Like, are you kidding me? Like, I am not going to teach my son all this prison lingo. I'm not going to teach my daughter how to like just become an abuser of whatever,
Starting point is 00:53:01 like an indulger, a fast woman. Like, no, there's too much of that. And so I promised myself that I would at least do right by the community and try to help in any way that I can. And I just so happened to land on Emmanuel's case. I didn't, I don't get to pick the news. I just become a part of it. That's beautiful. And you do work. I want to say that. You might not have to go to a nine to five job, but you're always working to the point where you're fainting. To the to the knuckles. I'm working. I really am. You're working. I have questions for you. Can I ask you some questions? Yeah. Because again, you're, I know I talk a lot, but no. Thank you for talking. Keep talking. But I have some specific questions for you. Because you're, you're there and I'm not. You're, you're our information. The fire next door. What's that about? What's what is that anything or is that just pure coincidence?
Starting point is 00:53:51 That was just pure coincidence. Okay. A lot of reporter. See, the thing is this block is hot. Where they live at, we all seen the layout is right next to the freeway. There's, uh, the regulars there. I mean, there's not a lot of activity, but there is a lot of activity. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:07 Like to the to the to the common eye, it might look like there's not a lot going on. But trust me, the underbelly of Cabazon, there's a lot of movement. There's a lot of movement. lot of movement through there and not a lot of it not so you know you understand what i'm saying right yeah yeah exactly exactly so in this home um it wasn't an abandoned home as some people had reported it to be it wasn't it was somebody owned this property there was a woman that was sleeping in a camper that was right next to the actual house and i'm not going to say and say the partridge family lived in there because they didn't like it was a it was people of
Starting point is 00:54:47 of, you know, reputable, you know, habits and personalities and everything now, but that's not my concern. It had nothing to do with Emmanuel. It just happened to be in the same block. So I can understand why, like, people would think that, you know, it might have been their house or, you know, da-da-da-da-da. But this just happened to be a, and you know what, I'm not a detective. Obviously, I haven't ruled anything now, but people were claiming that there was a baby in the rubble, and they were saying that they had found the severed head in the ashes, and they were saying, like, all these stories were coming out, and sometimes I just don't know who's doing this for clicks and views,
Starting point is 00:55:29 and who's doing this because they really care because none of them are there. None of them have, I mean, I'm just saying, like, this is just me personally. Like, for those of you who are news reporters, or for those of you who are following in the footsteps of the, those of us who came before you. Because it's exciting. I'm not going to lie. It's a very, very exciting life.
Starting point is 00:55:48 It is tiring, but, you know, it takes them real know how to get it off the ground. But if you get that little angle to elevate yourself, you better treat this job with dignity, integrity. And you better treat this job with respect because you only get one shot with these policemen. You only get one shot with these reporters. You only get one shot with these firemen. And once you burn that shot, trust me, you cannot be in this business without dealing with all those agencies because you're going to see ambulances. You're going to see news reporters. You're going to see.
Starting point is 00:56:21 And so if you start burning those bridges now, you're not going to make it in this game, homie. And I learned, bro, I've got my car and pounded twice. I've had four tickets. I'm still paying tickets because in the beginning when I first started, nobody knew me from Adam. And so I was getting ticket let them night because all of a sudden I was just this interruptor just like everybody else. And so I swallowed mine. I took my hits. And so now I get unprecedented active because I never barked at these cops when they wrote me up.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I never flipped them off when they impounded my car because I knew I'm going to have to deal with that. But these people now, they just stretch the truth for views. And I know they ain't making no money. Everybody wants to make that big pot of gold. Trust me, bro, positivity pays way more than gossip. And you will never win in this game being a bad person, bro. You will never win it. You might get a lot of views, but views don't pay no money.
Starting point is 00:57:11 who pays money, sponsorship, millionaires pay you money. People who have the means to back your play because they know you're pushing the real deal. And that's why I think that people have resonated with my page is that I'm not out here making his family look bad. They did that to themselves.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I didn't say nothing about Mary Von Housing that you fool didn't tell me first. So like I'm not here trying to docks nobody. I didn't even show you guys their house. I didn't even show you their house because I don't want you guys to do what you did. They turned this through a media circus. Well, I want to know about the house.
Starting point is 00:57:44 There was a breaking in the house. Is that right? Yeah, they're paying. From what I understand, they're selling tours. Now or they did? Yeah, YouTubers are taking people in there and they're like, okay. It's a crime scene. We need to protect this crime scene. This is baby Emmanuel. Again, integrity comes into play.
Starting point is 00:58:04 People could sit there and say, oh, we'll gift you, we'll gift you, we'll gift you. And they get so caught up in these gifts that they start trespassing. And, bro, trust me, nobody wants to go in that house more than me. Nobody wants to go on. And you know me, I jump fences. I climb mountains. I go through fires. And nobody wants to go in that.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I've gotten as close as I could. But even I know better. Even I, and I'm a fight time. Fallen, homie? Like, even I know better. And if he knows better. I mean, somebody, and that comes into play. Everybody wants to, everybody wants to be the big doubt without putting in the work.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I know the laws very well because I broke most of them. So I know what not to do. Trust me. A lot of these guys are just fly-by-night reporters with fly-by-night cases, fly-by-night lawyers, and just everything's fly-by-night people. And they want to convince us that they're this type and they're not. Because little Manuel is still out there. And people don't care.
Starting point is 00:58:57 They care when they want to care. So don't. Like, no. I know who cares. I see them there. The detectives care. The firemen care. A couple reporters care because I see them there with me.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And they're like, they look like this too. Trust me, I've aged. I've aged in these last few days. I haven't even ate, right? And so it takes a lot. You know, I've skipped meals. I was out there filming at 2 in the morning in Beaumont when I got this hacksaw because I had so many stories that day that I had to be in Yucaypa.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I had to be in Marna Valley. Then I had to be to Bono. By the time I got to Bomah, it was 2 a.m. And I had to get the story out to you guys because if I didn't, then it's like there's so much happens in real time that sometimes I lose sleep. And then I now know why I passed out because I didn't eat right and I haven't slept right. And I haven't did a lot of, bro, I haven't sunned around them. I haven't been able to sleep. Not only because of this case, but because of my medication and just because of my own stuff. And it's just like, you know, so it's a lot. But you know
Starting point is 00:59:57 what? So just bear with me. Please be patient because I'm not perfect. I didn't go to school for this. And I don't have no business degree neither. And I'm, I'm trying to piece this together. I don't even like crime shows. I don't even watch true crime. Never. I think it's honestly, I just think like, man, I'm trying to hear it. I got my own problem. And here I am.
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Starting point is 01:01:03 you get 20% off your first order. Just head to mood.com. That's M-O-O-D-com to get start. I want to give you a compliment. I did go to school for this, and I did work in local news, and I am a news reporter, and I'm relying on you, and you're here because you are doing the work and you're doing it while, and I have so many questions for you. So everything you've said, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Don't know more about me. Let's go. I respect. No, I'm just saying you're doing it right. So thank you. And you're right. I also want to applaud you for what you said. Like everyone wants to, you know, maybe make it.
Starting point is 01:01:39 big being a good person that's going to help and for the right for the right reasons and doing it for the right reasons yeah don't fight or trust me bro and i'm sorry that there's videos of me out there arguing with neighbors like i didn't like that i wanted to ask you about that too let's get into that you're arguing with the neighbors tell me what's going on there well i'm there doing my bit i'm not even like i'm not even facing this neighbor i'm like they're doing my bit trying to bring the news to my people. And I'm not just, I'm not yowling. I'm not trying to wake up.
Starting point is 01:02:10 And it's only 9.30 at night. It's not like I'm out there at 2 a.m. like I was there at 9 at night. And this dude comes out. And he's barbecuing. And it's the next door neighbor of the harrow. Is that correct? He's directly in front of him.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Yes. Directly in front of them. Okay. That makes me wonder, what do you know, home? Why are you so mad? Is that you're like, like, what are you guys doing together? Are you asking him questions? Were you interrogating him?
Starting point is 01:02:30 Were you trying to figure out? Oh, no. I was just doing my report and he came out of nowhere. I thought I was going to have to get him up. I thought I was going to have to get him up with him because, like, I don't know. And it's twice as big as me. And I was tired. I mean, I did chemo that day.
Starting point is 01:02:43 I was like, like, I was really, really tired. But there I was. And then, like, look, one thing about me is I would never back down to nobody because I don't even care anymore. Like, I don't even know how much long I have to live. So, like, I just be honest. Like, I've dealt with this cancer two years already. So for me to sit here and worry about what another man thinks about me. me like, what I'm fighting for my life, homie?
Starting point is 01:03:07 What am I going to fight with your demons? And so I really don't care what people say. But when you get close to me, homie, and you're within free, and I don't know who you are and you're twice as bigger than me, I'm going to, like, if you get that close, I'm going to crack you. I'm going to try not to, and he's lucky he didn't, but I would have dropped that big old dude. I'm serious. I would have.
Starting point is 01:03:23 And I was already locked in on him. And thank God that he didn't do nothing because then it would have been a different play. And it's like, like, I would have probably lost, but I would have went down fighting. Like, he would have not had. what he think he was going to do, homely. I don't know who he thinks he's messing with, but like, it ain't that kind of party. And I get more of my mouth because
Starting point is 01:03:43 I knew he was about bark. He came in, I even turned my back to him. That's how I knew he was going to do nothing, because if he was, he would have done it already. And so I just basically shoot him back to his house, like a chihuahua that he was. And then he holds me down with his water. And I didn't get an assault.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I didn't cry. And he did in front of the sheriff. And not once did I ever say, arrest him, arrest him. He's just frustrated because people have been up and down his block. It would be hard for him. Yeah, but that's not my fault. It's not your fault.
Starting point is 01:04:10 It's the horrible fault. That's not my fault. You should be mad at Jake. Right. You should be mad at the grandmother. What the fuck did you guys do here? Because now look at this block. He's projecting anger at the wrong people when, like, you should be happy that we're
Starting point is 01:04:23 trying to find your little baby neighbor instead of talking shit to me because I know he ain't did nothing but complained the whole time. He didn't try to help. So it just says you got to know who is there and who isn't. And people will bark all the time. And they make me, I made myself look bad that day. And I made myself look even worse by posting it. But since I then learned and I thought about it and I prayed about it and I deleted the video because you know what?
Starting point is 01:04:45 Nobody needs to see that. Nobody, I don't need views and clicks that much. I just want to embarrass him. Just like when you try to get, I mean, I'll embarrass you more than anything. I won't even try to ever clap at you. I'll just make your, I'll use your own words against you. And that's just what I do. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I have some more questions for you. And I just want to thank you again for your time. I know that you've been working around the clock on this. You mentioned, and it is true, we've also reported on this, the brother's death, Rebecca's brother. Is that right? And I heard it was fentanyl. Is there something?
Starting point is 01:05:22 Is that it? Is that the story? Is there more to this story? Or are you going down some rabbit holes there? No, you know what? I'm not going to lie. I haven't really tripped on nobody else, but Emmanuel. Like, I haven't tripped on the brother.
Starting point is 01:05:33 I haven't tripped on Rachel. I haven't tricked on bond housing. I haven't tricked on... Like, other than Jake and Rebecca, like, nobody's really on my radar. I mean, whoever knew what they knew, if somebody helped out, then, you know, then that'll catch up with you.
Starting point is 01:05:49 If you did that, then that'll catch up with you. But, like, I'm not here trying to bust the whole... You know what I mean? Like, I'm not trying to bust the whole chain. I just need to know what happened to the little boy. That's it. And if it was his parents, because now we know that it was,
Starting point is 01:06:03 then my job is over but not really like until we get this body then I really feel like I have to keep going and who knows that we will eventually at some point oh by the way I'm going on vacation Friday I want to say thank you to all the followers and the viewers you guys all donated so much to me you guys send me and my family on this Friday I'm leaving so you probably won't see me until Sunday so I have a few more days I do plan on being at the court okay if I could get security I'm not going to do it by myself If something big happens this weekend I've got to find some other sources
Starting point is 01:06:38 You got to put me in touch Yeah I'm checking out I'm checking out you know Okay check out you deserve that But maybe before you check out Text me some sources So that I can be on for you You know what's going on locally
Starting point is 01:06:52 Can a report every really check out right? I mean I'm sure you've been on vacation And I just was and I was and I was going live and doing a report every day. I was just on the airplane texting you. So no. So look, and somebody did ask me,
Starting point is 01:07:12 like, are you serious? Are you really going to check out? I said, look, I'm really going to check out. But if I get any real leads that I have to push it out, then I'll,
Starting point is 01:07:20 I will do that for you. Okay. But other than that, I'm not still going to be connected, obviously. Absolutely. Like I said, I just want to thank everybody.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Thank you all for your, people are sending me. gifts and people are sending me remedies and the concern for my health and I just want to say thank you guys so much and just please forgive me if I get worked up like I one thing about me is I'm very honest and even if I make myself look bad because I'm not here to like make myself look good you're I'm just here to tell you that like who I'm just telling this is me bro this is me and I would probably never meet because I'm not trying to be friends with nobody so somebody don't like me I don't really care like I'm going to keep doing what I do and those that
Starting point is 01:08:01 jump on board, thank you. And those who don't, that's fine. Sela-a-vi. And I'm cool with that, you know what I mean? And so I bless you. I thank you all. And I hope that you all are just filled with love, kindness, and abundance. And kiss your kids.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Kiss your kids because I didn't get to kiss mine for a long time, bro. And that little boy, you know, nobody ever kissed him. Yeah. Jake and Rebecca, I have questions for you that we've heard. So Jake and Rebecca, do you think then that Jake, like, do you, who do you think that? So we've heard that Jake's responsible. I heard that from Elizabeth Vargas. The police are saying Jake is responsible.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Rebecca is doing a interview from behind bars claiming that the kidnapping story is still a thing, even though they're both been charged with murder at this point. And then you've got Jake going with police to. where they believe they might be able to find Emmanuel with cadaver dogs. Do you think Jake is blaming Rebecca and Rebecca's still
Starting point is 01:09:10 claiming the kidnapping? What are your thoughts? Do you have any more information than I have right now? I don't think they know what either one of them are doing. Rebecca doesn't know nothing about the search today unless I'm pretty sure she's keep away. I'm pretty sure they have her isolated in some sort of
Starting point is 01:09:26 solitary confinement where it's just her at least for the beginning part. before they're not just going to put her in a dayroom setting with women like they're going to separate her because especially being in such a high profile case i would think that that's how they do i haven't been in i mean i've been out 10 years not like i just got out so i really don't know how you know the jail works anymore i know the laws are very very different now from the time that i was there but i would imagine that in a case like this they have them both separated they might be close to each other but not uh close enough to talk or see each other and she might not even know
Starting point is 01:10:00 know that Jake was out there today. And for all, I mean, he, I don't even think they know what the other is doing. I really don't. I think that they have them very bold, very guarded, and they are not letting me communicate with anybody. And I think that maybe the lawyer might relate the message to her, but I don't even know she has, I'm sure she has counsel yet, but we haven't, she hasn't even been arraigned yet. So she might not even have a lawyer yet.
Starting point is 01:10:28 You know what I'm saying? Like, she could, we won't. find out until Tuesday, which I believe that's her court date. So that's when a lawyer will be presented to her because the lawyer has made it clear that he's not representing her. Let's not
Starting point is 01:10:42 mistake that she's not my client. Jake is. And he's Jake's client from the first case. You know that? Or something like that? Yes. Yes. I'd heard that. And I believe he was carrying the casket of his brother too, the lawyer.
Starting point is 01:10:59 At the funeral for the cousin that just passed away? I could have sworn, I mean, this man has a big old belly, and that belly is not easy to get. Like, not everybody's walking around big old 50-pound drums in the front, and this dude got one. And he was carrying that
Starting point is 01:11:14 casket, and I could see this dude. And I'm like, is that the lawyer? So the lawyer is just, like, all tied into his family, like, personally. Fascinally. So that's another thing that we need to look at these pictures. Like, is that the lawyer that...
Starting point is 01:11:30 So help you. Help us out, in other words, everyone. Help us out. Well, yeah, because his lawyers just tied in. I've never seen no... This case is so bizarre. So, I know. So many leads that lead to just more strange antics.
Starting point is 01:11:44 And now we got Jake... Like, that's some... I'm telling you, it looked like a science fiction movie. To see all these reports and then you see him on his red jumpsuit. I'm like, what in the world? I've never seen that. I've never seen that other than in Hollywood. I've never seen that.
Starting point is 01:11:59 especially for everybody to see like in display and all these cars and every got their and I'm just like wow like you know what I've never seen I've never seen I've never you know seeing a canapers say Ola before uh you know taking a baby out of a car but of course it sounds like Netflix might have a scene like that did you know that they were that they had called the big five and asked them if they had seen and if they had any cameras did you hear that's what I had heard I had heard that big five employees were saying they had come in or pretending something was stolen out of their car. Correct me if I'm wrong. And to kind of sort of fish to see if there were cameras pointing out of the parking lot. And then when they said, no. And this is where I don't think that Rebecca watches true crime like you speculated on because you would think that she'd figure out that the other businesses would
Starting point is 01:12:47 have cameras and that she would maybe think about that if she actually watched Dateline before or hidden true crime or on the Tira. But I don't know if she does because it was pretty foolish. in my opinion for them to think. Well, we have new reports now. We have new reports now that she was driving around Yucpa with that stroller in the back of Jake's pickup truck and that they even went,
Starting point is 01:13:13 they try to drive it through a drive-through car wash with the stroller in the back. And that the car wash attendant is like, no, you got to take that thing out. And we posted that stroll. I don't know if you seen the video, but we got footage. of the stroller
Starting point is 01:13:29 under, you see, we all seen the American flag at the end of the driveway. Yes. Directly behind that American flag,
Starting point is 01:13:36 the baby stroll is right there. Covered in dust. Covered. Like, it hasn't been moved in weeks. Wow. And so my question is, when was the last time
Starting point is 01:13:47 somebody seen little Emmanuel? What day? Well, that was one of my questions for you. Do you know that Mary von Housen has never met him? What? Do you know that Mary von Housen
Starting point is 01:13:56 has never met Emmanuel? No. When was the last siding? Confirmed siding of Emmanuel. I asked everybody and nobody wants to. So listen, Mary Vonhausen lives in Cat City, which is Cathedral City, which is about 30 minutes out, right? And everybody's been focusing on Mary Van Housin because she's been at the home. She has that red car and she's been there. She was at the funeral.
Starting point is 01:14:25 So it's quite possible that she may not know because her and Rebecca weren't really that close for a while. They had some sort of falling out as a lot of us do with our parents or whatever. And so maybe it was Jake or maybe it was whatever it was. They had just kind of reconnected a little bit and then this happened. So she's never really met her grandson. It's not really that far feds to believe because I don't even think they had a good relationship. But that's her grandson. That's her grandson.
Starting point is 01:14:55 She never met him. Maybe that's why she didn't cry. So whatever. Okay. Like we'll leave it at that. But now we have reports. that Jake and Rebecca were seeing coming in and out of Jake's mother and stepfather's house, and they lived just a few blocks away. And nobody's talking about them.
Starting point is 01:15:13 And did you know? Let's talk about it. Tell me what you know. We're talking about it. Listen, there was a white car today at where Jake, at the, I believe that was Jake's mom's car. She was there today when he was on the side of the road helping police or supposedly. His mom was there watching it. I don't know she was there because she watched my life.
Starting point is 01:15:32 or I don't know what she already knew, but she was there, dude. I believe. I mean, it could be wrong. So I might have to retract this statement later, but I believe that there's a white, a Tahoe or like a Toyota, like a big SUV. And I believe that was Jake's mom.
Starting point is 01:15:49 It could have been because she has a very same vehicle on the theater. Wow. Not only that, they only live a block away. And I have video surveillance that Jake and Rebecca were coming in and out of the house of the So the stepfather is the landlord of the property where Emmanuel lived. The home of the street,
Starting point is 01:16:09 Ramona Street where everybody has Yeah, yeah. Okay, so the owner is Jake's mother, Rebecca Cal, Rachel. Rachel's the owner of the property. Her husband, that's Jake's stepfather, he's the landlord of the
Starting point is 01:16:23 property or vice versa. He's the owner, she's the landlord, she's the owner, he's the land. But either the parents own the property. Okay. And they're renting it to Jake and Rebecca. Jake's been on workers' comp. This is like a second, third case of workers' comp.
Starting point is 01:16:39 This dude does not like to work. For all I know, he beats his kids so that he can keep him incapacitorious so he can get government checks. He hasn't worked. He doesn't work. He doesn't work. He's one of these people that likes to just mooch, skim, and, you know, just live life, I guess, burning the government. I don't know. But regardless, oh, was a detectives car? Okay. HR just confirmed that, in fact, it was a detectives car. But that's fine. That's why we love HR, right? Because in real time, it would be like, yeah. Thank you, HR. Yeah. That's good. Okay, so scratch that part. But regardless, I mean, you can understand why speculation will come in because they have very, very similar cars. And it's not far fed. We weren't, but 20 minutes from,
Starting point is 01:17:30 where they live 30 minutes. So like this fast as I got there, anybody could have got there. So if somebody really wanted to follow this case, it's not hard. It's just nobody really wants to put in what it takes to actually do this because it's a lot. It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:17:45 It's a lot. And more so I think people really start looking at Rachel, the mom, because they were coming in and out of that residence the days before and after. After the phone call. They were still coming out and they only live a block away or two blocks away and I have the address I just haven't went over there because you know like I'm not trying to I'm not trying to do all that and open up another and then have that street all flooded out because every you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:18:15 because people are really paying attention now and so I'm not trying to docks nobody so trust me when I tell you but I think that and I'm sure they have I'm sure police have went over there we have video where they were out there searching too But the thing is, is that the owner of this property really has to know a lot more because I'm sure, like, I can understand how Mary Vonhausen maybe had not seen her baby because, for one, they've been abusing him and, you know, he probably had bruises all the time, and she lives in Cat City. So it's easy to leave that gap. But it's harder when you have grandma and grandpa live a block away. So they had to have seen. They had to have known. They were landlords in their property and a little bit.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what kind of people. I mean, we do know what kind of people these people are, but it just makes no sense to me. Like, there's more leads coming out that I think these people know more. Dude, they found a big puddle of blood in the, in the carpet. That's what I wanted to bring up next.
Starting point is 01:19:14 So what I've heard is you mentioned laundry room. You and Elizabeth Vargas, I was on a panel with Elizabeth Vargas, mentioned blood, a significant amount of blood on the carpet. Tell us what you know about blood found on the house. What do you know? And where, where, who's the source?
Starting point is 01:19:29 What, what do we? I got, I got a, I got a, I got a, I forgot how I found out, but I got a,
Starting point is 01:19:36 a link from one of my sources saying that they had found, um, blood in laundry room. And I was like, laundry room. I know that's a fucking laundry room in this house. This is like a, it looked like a cabin.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Ain't no laundry room's in this house. But what do I know? Something. And you have to be the bathroom or the kitchen. So they found either, So, but I just left it alone. And it kind of found out that it was in the carpet. Now, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I don't, like, I haven't been in the home and I haven't seen pictures, so I can't tell you. But from my sources telling me laundry room and then, and then sources coming out confirming that it was in the bathroom and that it was a substantial amount that they went to the Home Depot and bought lie and carpet cleaning products. And so I don't know what lie does. I know lie dissolves stuff. But I don't know, like, you know, carpet. cleaning products are not going to clean up a large amount of blood for CSI forensics.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Like they have these technologies that make these crime seeds glow, you know, in black lights and glow in the darks. And they have these sprays that make blood just glow. And so it's not, you could sit there and put all these carpet cleaners and dye and bleach and then you could do what you want. You're not going to get rid of that stain, bro. You're not. Not for cadaver dog.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Not for CSI, not for forensics. You're just not going to do it. And that's why these people get busted because they try to clean up their mess, thinking they got away with it, and then they hit them with the glow-on-the-dark stuff, and it's just all over the room. They throw on that black line, and it's just like, oh, yeah, now we know. You did it in this room. And so that's how it usually happens is they have these real, real, they have these.
Starting point is 01:21:17 It's not, these guys are prepared, and they check every lead, and they check every kid. You think I'm good. trust me, they're 10 steps ahead of me. And, you know, because I'm never there before them. I'm always there after them. Like today, they were there first. And so I could sit here and think that I got all these leads when, but we didn't find
Starting point is 01:21:36 him in Yucaypo where I took them. We didn't find them up, like, my leads aren't always pan out. But a lead is a lead. And you can't get mad because a lead doesn't turn your way. Like, I want to find this kid too so we could send him off to heaven. But I can't get mad because I send him. it's a wild goose chase for all of us. And so the thing about the public is that they're real open to express their anger.
Starting point is 01:21:59 I'm just not that ready to expose mine yet because I don't have that love dream. Yeah. I want to ask you again, you talked about it briefly at the beginning, but I want to touch on it again. Do you feel that people have been feeling more safe coming to you with tips than law enforcement? Well, definitely. Yeah, definitely. Especially with this case, like I've had sources for, I've been doing this almost three years. years now. Like I was I had a page before this called Food News Network and we met some legal problems with that. And so I've been, uh, building my sources for quite some time now. And especially now with this case, we've just built this rapport with the community. Like I said, because I try my hardest to treat it with dignity and respect. And like I said, if I have to retract my statement, like I'll do that. Like I'm not about, I'm not about false information. Like I especially in the severity of this case, like I, I
Starting point is 01:22:53 fully understand the magnitude and the the the strings attached to this like I know that I'm not the only one out here and I and if I do have the biggest voice then I feel a sense of responsibility to at least put what I believe to be correct information and I don't feel bad but I get attacked trust me attacks to me or like a diamond dozen like I don't take them personal and um I'll I just I just don't and for me to retract something it doesn't bite me because by time I'm already on something else. You know, like I got this, I got this court to think of, and I had this little boy. I have new leads to more that, you know, I have a new lead.
Starting point is 01:23:33 I don't want to say with City, but I have a new lead where the day before the day before the phone call, okay, she was throwing baby clothes in the dumpster of a thrift store. Was that the dumpster we saw that people were. No, that dumpster that other people saw was completely unrelated because that has nothing to do with my story. And a lot of times... But police were there, right? Police were at that dumpster?
Starting point is 01:24:00 Can you confirm that? The police were at that dumpster? I can't say because I don't follow other content creators. I don't follow nobody and I don't know what other leads were out there. All I know is that... Court TV was out there as well as another local TV station. Is that the one at the fire? No, I don't have HR, but I've got someone.
Starting point is 01:24:21 My HRs. I did. I did hear that there was a dumpster and clothing, but it's not the dumpster that I have in question. The dumpster that I have is definitive that she went there and she was throwing away bags of clothes in the dumpster. Bags. Bags. Bags. Someone had suggested that baby clothing had been found in a dumpster.
Starting point is 01:24:43 I mean, I wouldn't doubt it. Like, I'm not saying I was the only dumpster. It's just the one that I went to, yeah. Okay. And this probably also came from you too. When I say Elizabeth Vargas, it's because of what I know, but you tell me where it comes from. Elizabeth Vargas also report on News Nation on this panel.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I was on with her that there were, as you've already said it to, no baby clothes, no framed photos of baby Emmanuel, nothing at all in the house. From what I understand, like I said, I haven't been in the home, but from what I understand the reports that I got saying that there was absolutely nothing in that home that indicated that there was a baby in there,
Starting point is 01:25:19 that there was no pictures of him in there. it seemed like they have tried to do away with him. He wasn't at the funeral. He wasn't at the funeral, which was on August 13th, I believe, was the funeral of her second's brother's funeral. The one that passed away from the OD, right? Yeah. And he wasn't at that funeral, and I put out, I put out video from one of Rebecca's family
Starting point is 01:25:42 members saying, hey, where's your baby? And she said, I forgot what she said, but the baby wasn't there. And she even slipped up in one of my videos and asked her, how old was your baby? And she said her baby was born in December. So I don't know. I don't know. That throws off the date completely.
Starting point is 01:26:00 December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August. That would make her eight months right now. That would make Baby Emanuel eight months to date. But she said it was December. So she might, and that's why Jake's incarceration, because if she's saying December, how do I know that she's not pushing back a month or two because she was smashing the brother while Jake was in jail. And all of a sudden, Jake found out that that might be her brother's kid.
Starting point is 01:26:26 And maybe took his brother out and took the baby out. Probably going to take her on neck. You see, she had her eye. So for all we know, Jake was just on a rampage. I don't know. I don't know. Don't make it look. Don't think that he's out here helping the police, bro.
Starting point is 01:26:42 I think he's covering his own tracks. I mean, I'm not saying that's what happened. But, like, for somebody who not, for somebody who not, for somebody to not know your baby's birthday, like when was Jake busted? Because I've been busted. And I know that my baby mom was smashing my brother. And she had a kid.
Starting point is 01:26:59 And I didn't get out to like a month or two after. And the time lines didn't match up. Like that's your brother. They had the same number. They would look alike. And so who knows what Jake found out in the days to come before he did that? Because now the baby's dead. His brother's dead.
Starting point is 01:27:13 She ain't talking. And he's in hillsides leading them on. Who knows? Like, I just don't know. Well, she's talking, but she's standing by her kidnapping story from behind bars, which I want to ask you, what did you think of that story? She's given an interview behind bars standing by this Ola story still. Right now? Yeah. They're already interviewing her? Yeah. She's saying the kidnapping happened. Well, you're actually going to say that because she doesn't even know that Jake was out there showing them where the baby was to me. And you know this. You know this from experience. They've isolated each other. Nobody knows what the other one's doing. They have a, they're, they're. completely shut down.
Starting point is 01:27:50 So here's a question. I don't know. I don't know. I think we're not going to know until the Netflix series comes out, bro, because at this point, like, gee, please, we're all going to be like this. Like, so who did it?
Starting point is 01:28:01 You know? That's my next question for you. I want to know your thoughts. But before we get there, do you think she's under some sort of like DV control from him, like domestic violence and that she's covering for him? Me and my girl thought about that.
Starting point is 01:28:15 We thought like, damn, what if he was just being, what if he was just beat her ass so bad and he sucked her up she dropped the baby and or maybe he slammed the baby while he was in her arms or maybe he did maybe he hit him both like she says on the floor like yeah i you know i fell on the floor i've wondered if it actually happened in her house she has a black eye and the common denominator in all these child abuse cases is jake blood blood blood yeah There's blood everywhere in the house. Hola. The blood has entered the chat. You can say what you want, but you're not going to take,
Starting point is 01:28:56 like, what were you doing? Like, you're making can'tas in your living room? Like, what are you doing? Why is this big old, like, why is this big old red spot in your living room? And so at this point, that's when it became a murder case. It was no longer,
Starting point is 01:29:09 there was no longer a doubt where they did it. It's how they did it, when they did it, and where they put this baby because those are the answers that we don't have. We know they did it. what we don't know is how, where, and, like, when, we just don't know when.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Those are the questions. I know, I know. And, I know. And, but, you know, we're, we're journalists. We share, you know, we share what we're seeing. We share what we know. We share what's still speculation. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Well, I'll share if you promise to share after. All right. Go for it. Okay. So I don't totally know. I actually maybe protect my brain from going too far because I don't like to imagine the most heartbreaking things. I actually, oddly, it might surprise people.
Starting point is 01:29:55 I'm very, very curious. But when it comes to sort of those more morbid details, I actually block it off. I just can't go there sometimes. So I won't go there. But I have speculated probably the last question I asked you. There's the common denominator in the child abuse cases that we're seeing is Jake. and so I have speculated that this black eye that she has was caused by Jake
Starting point is 01:30:21 and when she talks about her story and let me reiterate, I know our listeners know that I said my speculation, but I'm going to say it again because the journalist in me has to say it. This is speculation. This is Lauren. Only Lauren. This is just my brain. Nothing else.
Starting point is 01:30:35 I don't have any facts or sources. So I have suspected even when she says that, you know, know, she fell on the floor. She doesn't say the ground or the road or the, you know, the cement seat or the gravel. She says the floor. I fell on the floor. I have wondered if she's sort of actually sharing what actually happened, but it happened in the home. And I have wondered if then she then covered for Jake under sort of a coercive control type relationship, not excusing her, just saying what I'm seeing. And in a. addition to that, you know, and then of course helped conceal and hide and protect and almost
Starting point is 01:31:22 taking the fall because she concocks this kidnapping story. And then he gets his own attorney who makes it very clear while he's on Ashley Banfield being interviewed by Ashley Banfield that he's only helping Jake, not her. And I start to speculate the, he's going to willingly throw Rebecca under the bus while she's protecting him. And so I don't know what happened to baby Emmanuel. My heart breaks. I can't go there. But that's the dynamic I'm seeing and where I'm wondering.
Starting point is 01:32:02 But you are on the scene. You have been to scenes because of tips. You have seen boxes that we've held our breath as you've opened, relieved that nothing's in there. you have you have received so many tips i'm not the person receiving tips i'm the person just reporting you're on the scene what do you think okay so i did it i did it your turn it's all you i knew jay was i knew jake had already turned on his girl before he got arrested you want to hono how you know because in an interview when the lawyer was saying that um he was describing the crime he said allegedly the kidnapping i've never
Starting point is 01:32:41 never heard a lawyer refer to my client or I've never heard a lawyer refer to his client in the word allegedly because you would be unapologetically convinced that your client is innocent. So for you to say an alleged kidnapping when you could have said my client's son was kidnapped. Why would you allege it to the media? Because if you're saying that it's alleged, that means you're telling me that you didn't believe it yourself. So that tells me that your client has now seated doubt in your head and you have pinned it on Rebecca because you said allegedly for a reason. I mean, he might be a fly-by-nine lawyer, but he still had to go to school.
Starting point is 01:33:28 So he knows. Surprising sometimes, right? And I'm not even a lawyer, bro. I've had public defenders. I've never had a lawyer represented for me because I didn't have that kind of luxury. Every dump truck lawyer that ever had railroaded me. So I know when a dump truck, I know a dump truck lawyer when I see one. And that man is a dump truck lawyer, homie on the Tira, Q.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Okay. Dump truck. And so I think that Jake had already turned on his wife before he got arrested. And so that's why the lawyer said, I ain't representing her. I don't know what you guys got going like, wait until it all comes out. So how it happened? Yeah, he's beating her ass. Like, come on.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Stephen Wonder could see that. You know what I mean? Like he was giving it to her. Now, all we have to figure out is was he giving it to her while she was holding baby Emmanuel in the arms because that's a very strong possibility. Now, Dwighting he just slammed them on the ground. He could have did that too because that was not the first time he slammed him, I'm sure, or threw him up against the wall or shook him or like, whatever.
Starting point is 01:34:30 But be too aggressive with him. Yeah, it looks like Emmanuel has already suffered abuse. Yeah, he has suffered. So you're like, that's not even uncommon for me to think that you have it in you to hurt it because you hurt your first one. You hurt your second one. You hurt your brother. And now you hurt your little one too. So like, come on.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Like, thank goodness he's off the streets. He's never going to get out. I don't care what kind of plea deal he reaches against the day mama. They might just, I don't know if this is a death penalty. I don't even know if they still have death penalty in California. I don't think they do. But this is definitely a very, very serious crime. and they're going to throw the book at these two.
Starting point is 01:35:06 They're not going to get away with it at all. I don't care if you, at the very, at the very least, you might get like 100 years and not the hell, but you're not going to walk away from this one. You're not. Yeah, this case is heartbreaking. You know, as I said, I can't even go to what happened. I just hope it was vast and, you know, God bless that baby boy. I just hope we find them so we could bury them or.
Starting point is 01:35:31 And I was wondering that too. Do you think that they will find? You know, the fact that cadaver dogs didn't even seem to pick up on any scent, do you think we're going to find the baby? I hope so. But in all reality, the more time that separates between the time of the actual abduction or killing or whatever it is you want to call, obviously, or both, like, the more time that separates from that is just becomes harder and harder. And especially in these remote areas, like, there's just a vast, there's cougars up there.
Starting point is 01:36:03 There's, I mean, there's coyotes. There's animals. I mean, he's been gone nine days, at least. At least. He's been gone longer than that, I believe. And so why he would take them there to that canyon? I don't know. I mean, it doesn't, I don't know, but all I know is that it's just a sad, sad situation.
Starting point is 01:36:30 It's eating up the country. The world has not gotten involved. I get messages from Scotland. I've got a message from Kenya. I got messages people tell me they're watching from Greenland. And I'm like, dang, like, these people are really watching. I got troops stationed in Germany. I got people in just everywhere.
Starting point is 01:36:50 They're paying attention. And they see what I see. And there's 10 different ways that he could do this, that to sit there and speculate on one, how we know is that it happened. And we all know how it happened. He was hitting her. He was hitting the baby.
Starting point is 01:37:07 And they all seen it. The mother, the father, the stepbrother, the neighbors, they all seen it. And they, TPS had been called to this house before. Police departments, the call log shows that they have been on the property like one day after the other, after the other, after the next week. And so they knew these people. And so this is just another case where the system failed, another child, and is becoming too, common. We all know what happened with Gabriel Fernandez and we all know what happened to these other children who suffered just so greatly. And unfortunately, it's just mental health and drug abuse
Starting point is 01:37:46 because if you look at pictures from Rebecca from five years ago, she looks, you know, somewhat decent, normal, just very, very different than what she did today. Today, she had her hair parted and combed to the side and looked at she had her nail done. Like, who does that? Who has time while you're being investigated for murder to come out with shiny nails and your hair, and you look like she had just gotten highlights. She didn't have those highlights the day of the interview when she was fake crime with that black guy. I mean, I didn't see them.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Did you? And I know women, I don't really notice stuff like that, but I know that women do. And the first thing that HR noticed, but she was all lit up. And I was like, she didn't have to know. I trust in HR then. So this is your HR comes in handy. Yeah. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:32 You're seeing it. Yeah. Yeah. And not only her, but comments, people in the comments were like, how is it that the women have freshly playing a nail when her whole baby's out there missing? Like that just, and so I just think that she has lost touch with reality. I think she quite possibly is just completely broken down mentally. I don't know if it's at the hands of her own because of drug abuse, but she don't even look the same. She don't even look like the same Heinon no more that she did five years ago because she's so caught up in her drugs. And not only that, I'm not going to speculate, but there's a lot of people in that family that look at their own drugs. A lot.
Starting point is 01:39:07 And that whole family looks at that funeral. I'm like, dang, everybody looks smoked out. And there's no disrespect to the family. There's a lot that didn't. But there's a lot that did. And so forgive me if I'm not just super politically correct. And I'm just out here to sugar-coordinated thing. But a lot of these people, they tell me I look smoked out and I got cancer.
Starting point is 01:39:25 So I'm just calling it like I see it. Yeah. Well, Ahmad, one last question for you. Unless there's something else you want to share. Can you tell us, I did read about it in your LA Times profile. It was a very, again, cool article. I recommend everyone, are you reading it about Ahmad? What does on the Tira mean to those of us that didn't know?
Starting point is 01:39:48 That's actually what took me to the article. I was trying to figure it out myself. On the tier, prison tier. You know, a tier has one tier, tier two tiers, three tiers. Some prisons have five tiers. Some prisons have just two tiers, the top tier, the bottom tier. So in prison, it's just a tier. You know, it's the prison tier.
Starting point is 01:40:05 I did 23 years in prison. It's just something that kind of just, it was just funny at first. And then it was monkey see, monkey do, and we're all very, very repetitive. And it didn't matter what I say. At first, it was two news network, and everybody was saying that. And then that got taken away and now it became on the tira. And so now everybody's saying that. So I don't even know if it might be on the Tira next year.
Starting point is 01:40:27 It might be Aguilat 1 News. It could be a mediosso investigation. I could be whatever it is, but whatever it is, just know that we're here to stay and we're here to try to make a difference to the community and we're here to try to show love, compassion, empathy, and above all, just honesty and credibility to the job of reporting. So thank you very much for having me on your platform and all your viewers. And it really was an honor for me to be on. the show with you. Thank you. Absolutely. Well, I am honored to be one of your homies. Very honored. You are my home girl for sure. Yes. And if anybody wants to follow Ahmed, you can find him through searching on the Tira, T-I-R-A, on the T-I-R-A, on any platform.
Starting point is 01:41:15 You are most active at this time on Instagram and TikTok. Is that correct? Yeah. I haven't really got to YouTube. I think YouTube is just too dramatic over there for me. Too dramatic. We're dramatic. We're dramatic. I love the fact that I'm able to block people on TikTok and Instagram. I don't have that option on YouTube. And so I just stay away from it.
Starting point is 01:41:40 I love to be in control. I don't feel I have control here. Yeah, there is a lot of drama on the YouTube. I stay away from drama. I do my best view. But man, they try to pull you in. I do my best to just. No, you're doing amazing.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Absolutely. I watched your shows. and I'm just like very edge of your seat, nail biting, thriller, suspense, and you got all the good girls. So congratulations to you. Thank you. And thank you to those that came from Ahmed's channel to subscribe to Hidden 2 crime. It means a lot.
Starting point is 01:42:14 And it's a huge support to us too. We want to keep bringing guests like Ahmed. And this is, as I always say, a community effort. As we cover very tragic, difficult things, it takes a community. It takes a village. It takes incredible journalists like you, Ahmed. And you are working so hard. And we hope for justice for Emmanuel and we hope for the truth to come out.
Starting point is 01:42:37 And you are allowing us to get closer and closer to that. So thank you for letting me ask you questions, pick your brain and for sharing everything that you know at this time. And we will certainly be following your reporting. Don't go on vacation too long because we need you. Thank you, guys. And take care of your health. Lauren. Eat healthy food.
Starting point is 01:42:52 Keep your husband as well. And your followers. And I'm sure your followers have been. jumping like it's a good thing when you sit there and you bring good people together. I really, really do love that. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you. Thanks, Ahmed. See you later. Bye-bye. Most people don't realize how much their personal information is being bought and sold every day. Data brokers are making billions, pulling details about you from public records and the internet, and then packaging and selling it, usually without your consent. That's how your information lands
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