High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - BONUS: Jonathan Papelbon opens up about Philly, Bryce Harper | Baseball Isn't Boring

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

It seemed like a perfect time to catch up with the Phillies' all-time saves leader. Why? Because Jonathan Papelbon certainly has a unique view of playing baseball in Philadelphia, while also being responsible for one of the most unforgettable moments in Bryce Harper's career - when the two tussled in the dugout as members of the Nationals. Papelbon is never shy about letting his true feelings be heard, which is why this is a must-listen. Before sitting down with Pap, Bradfo does also announce a Baseball Isn't Boring contest, while ranting a bit about MLB's umpire situation. (How does an ump execute a perfect game behind home plate and then never call balls and strikes the rest of the series?) It's all a great way to kick off the final week of the 2022 MLB season. Subscribe to Baseball Isn't Boring To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Baseball isn't boring. Welcome to Baseball Isn't Boring. Here's your host, Rob Radford. Baseball is not boring. This has been proven time and time again. It's been proven the last few days, thanks to the World Series. It's been proven because of the postseason. It's been proven because of the great baseball season we've seen. It's been proven because of social media. And today we're proving it with an interview

with Jonathan Papelbon. All-time Phillies save leaders also happens to be the all-time Red Sox save leaders. But we're talking about the Phillies. We're talking about Philadelphia. What's it like to play in Philadelphia? He had a very complicated time in Philadelphia. Papelbon did. And of course, of course, of course, there is Bryce Harper. There is Bryce Harper, the Bryce Harper conversation. talking about this confrontation with Bryce Harper, of course, a few years ago when they got in a fight at both members of the Washington Nationals in the dugout. You're going to be surprised what Papelbon said. I'm just going to say that. You're going to be surprised.

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Vent for a second. Okay. Congratulations to Pat Hoberg, right? Congratulations to him. The home plate ump for game two. Perfect game. Perfect game. Didn't miss a call.

It's unbelievable. I think you can't be highlighting this enough. Great job. We't miss a call. It's unbelievable. I think you can't be highlighting this enough. Great job. We rail on the umpire so much, especially at big moments in the postseason. He should be highlighted. Now, he graded out the best of any umpire behind the plate all year long. I am baffled by this. I have been baffled even before this. I understand this rotation. And I just tweeted, I said, if Hoberg is best, why isn't he behind home plate for every game of the World Series? It's like having Mike Trout hit ninth today after launching four home runs. All right. For those who don't understand or

don't realize, I understand there's a rotation. Right now, the rotation does not have him behind home plate again the rest of the World Series. So the best guy in your game is only going to be umpiring one game behind the plate at home for the World Series. One game. And the game that he did, by the way, it was a perfect game. And you're not going to run him out there again because you have this rotation. And a lot of people would say, well, you can't throw him out there every game. He'll get worn down. All right, let's just assume that that's correct. But how do you have this guy only slotted for one game behind home plate? It's not only just this one game that he did really, really well.

It's all year long. He was the best. He was the best. So anyway, listen, I mean, this is what makes baseball so great. These sort of conversations, something like this comes up all the time. I enjoy the debate. I enjoy the conversation. And I really enjoyed sitting down with Philadelphia Phillies all-time save leader, Jonathan Papavan.

If there is one former Philly I would love to talk to, there's a lot of them. I would say this. This is the guy that I want to talk to there's a lot of them i would say this this is the guy that i want to talk to uh in this post he's i'm not i'm not just saying that because we just talked to him because of his perception of the philadelphia market and also because the bryce harper stuff and we also get into frame to frame bervaldez swiping his wrist his hand whatever and how that dynamic is papelbon talks a little bit about how he views that. And, of course, celebrations. Celebrations.

Because you know what? When you have a guy jumping around in a kilt with a beer box on his head, that guy knows how to celebrate. All right. Well, subscribe, follow, listen, leave a nice review. So far, everyone has been great, leaving nice reviews. Joe Kelly, Alex Korb, the whole works. We're going to keep cranking them out. We're going to have them after every game here on in for the World Series.

After game three, Nick Punto is going to join, hopefully, Courtney, Coop, and myself. I'll be on the boots on the ground down in Philadelphia. So a lot to look forward to. But today you get to look forward to a Jonathan Papelbon get-together. Here you go. Here's Pap. All right, there's nobody i would rather be talking to right now than the the persons whose brand has never been hotter the owner of the papel brand uh jonathan papelbon what's going on man what's happening brother all right let's go all right welcome to baseball is so boring like we

had we had asked you why baseball isn't boring before, and you said because you have grown men wearing tight pants, which is actually in our open. Congratulations. So having watched baseball all year, it feels like baseball, though, is still entertaining, correct? Oh, no question. Look at the World Series. We've got a team that nobody expected to be in, and they're playing great against a team everyone expected to be in.

So, I mean, what more could you ask for? No question about it. And speaking of the World Series, let's talk a little bit about the World Series. All right? You, I looked it up, you are the all-time save leaders for one of the teams in the World Series, correct? Correct.

All right. Okay. So talk to me, when you watch the Phillies play now, before we get into, you know, your history with the Phillies, whatever, when you watch the Phillies play right now, what is your sort of feeling that you have? Because sometimes, you know, I don't know if it's different than watching the Red Sox play in the World Series. I don't know. What is your feeling watching these games? My feeling right now is the Phillies got nothing to lose,

and they're using that to their advantage, and they're just – they're playing like they got nothing to lose. Balls to the wall, man. And I like the Phillies in this, man. I'm going to take the underdog, you know. So I just, you know, as a baseball player, you just get that feeling and that sense when you watch another team play. You're like, man, they're all clicking together. And that's what's happening with Philly right now, I believe.

And plus, being the all-time stage leader for Philly, I got to kind of stay true to my roots. I mean, there's no question about that. The fact is. So, fact is so but you know this is so let's talk a little bit about about philly like we had talked earlier uh and another podcast about how when you went there it was like you felt like this was going to be almost a dynasty right i did yeah and so talk a little bit about that if you can about when you went there, about what you expected from being in Philadelphia from the time that you were there and sort of what happened. Jimmy Rollins, Cliff Lee, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard. Look, I went there thinking I was going to win like three more championships, honestly and truthfully.

People started getting hurt. Ruben Amaro was giving the keys to a Ferrari, and I felt like he wrecked it. You know, he just thought these guys were all going to just miraculously in their mid thirties recover and didn't had spent too much money. And I mean, even granted that money was on me. I mean, I still feel like in my career, I mean, obviously being the saves leader still there, I produced. So I was, you know, so we just had a lot of money on the books, man. And I think he just couldn't, couldn't keep his head above water then they had to dismantle so when you when you roll i mean it is incredible that you are the saves leaders for the philadelphia phillies like people would say like oh you're the save leader for the red sox sure but but it's it's sort of like you know you came to the phillies it certainly

wasn't the love fest that you had in boston i mean mean, it never is when you're not a homegrown guy, I don't feel like, or have been there for an extra long time. I mean, Philly's a great city, man. Don't get me wrong. It was a great city.

I mean, I know they're having a blast right now and I, and I feel like they're going to have another world series parade there. But I just happened to go there in a time where, man, it was just they rode a high and I thought they were going to keep riding those highs and those NLCS appearances year after year and

it just did work out, man. When you came from a place in Boston, it wasn't all roses in Boston either, right? I mean, especially being your last time. It's roses anywhere and winning covers up the roses yes covers up the lack of roses yes yes the in in by the last time i've said this i

remember the last time you were in the red sox uniform you stood in the baltimore clubhouse for like an hour answering questions after the last game in 2011 you talk about a clubhouse that had like no roses flying around that place I mean that was of all the good times that was not a good time so you know when you're up I like I think we were up by what double digits double digits going into September, close to it. Yeah, best record in baseball. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, we're not – listen, we're not – my question is this. Is it – so when you go to Philadelphia, there's a lot of similarities, I would imagine. Maybe I – listen, you played in Philadelphia, I didn't. But there's a lot – probably a lot of similarities in terms of the intensity when you went there. Could you – like, when you – let terms of the intensity when you went there. Let's start there.

When you went to Philadelphia, did you feel that right away, the similarity? Or was it different? I've always said that there's a lot of similarities between the two cities, for sure. But, you know, I think, you know, with Philadelphia, man, I think it's just their fans are the fans that I needed to be playing in front of. No question about it. Like, I want a fan that expects way more than what their ticket price, what they feel like they should expect for their ticket price. Trust me. Look at my ERA in a day game when nobody shows up. Look at my

ERA in a night game when the stadium's packed. It's so-so. Look, I'm going up to Philly. I got to do a show up in Philly. I still hit back Philly. I think I'm going there in December, maybe.

Come on. Get my car with me tomorrow. We'll go there tomorrow. Come on. Yeah. Well, I wish, but yeah.

But yeah, so it's, it's so, so you make a good point. Like this is, it's just when you do well, man, you're a hero,

right? Yeah. Yeah. And look, I have no qualms with how they treat them when they don't do well, man. Like, look, I said, I didn't come to Philly for this,

and they hated me for saying that. But then I think after I left, they realized, like, man, he might have been right. You know, he came here to win this city more championships, and I got to respect that. And so that's kind of how it's always been for me there, you know? Did you feel like, you know, I feel like what you're saying is the same message that they would want to hear did you feel like this it was at times that there wasn't this connection like you guys don't understand like i want to win here like that's why i came here

and i'm frustrated that i'm not winning and that's why i'm saying what i'm saying am i am i wrong about that well it just depends on how you take it. I mean, if you need a headline, you write it to her. You need a headline. If you don't, you know, you let it be for what it is. But, man, at the end of the day, I didn't care. You know, I didn't really care what the media even wrote about. At the end of the day, I cared what 25 guys in that clubhouse thought about me,

and I went about my business the same way every day you know obviously there were some players where we're like hey pat man maybe chill out a little bit you know and like yeah you know maybe right it's gonna all come back you know and you had that give and take but to me i i carried about 24 other guys in there and maybe a clubhouse attendant or two but other than that i didn't give a shit yeah well did you uh so what was your favorite moment what was your favorite moment in philly i mean this is obviously because listen this they're riding high and there's nobody i'd rather see and by the way they probably could use another bullpen arm i'm not gonna lie to you so there you go limber up well i will tell you my favorite time

in philly was uh we did have a great group guys. And my favorite part about Philly was the plane rides. We had as big a league poker game as you can imagine with myself, Jimmy Rollins, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, Cole Hamels, Cliff Lee. And I remember a lot of flights where we had to literally wait and the bus would wait on us to finish some hands. Bigger than Boston, huh? Oh, man, yeah. Oh, man, yeah.

Really? Way bigger. Really? Oh, yeah. I mean, I know we've talked about this. Ortiz is just trying to overpower everybody, right? Hey, look, worst poker player ever. That all i gotta say all right so so when you're when all that money's flying around on those flights in in philly who's taking it

man i tell you cliff took a lot i took a lot um we had some suckers in there. I won't say who, but he broadcasts for TBS now. He's a pretty good sucker for money. All right. So what was – Bald Head. Who? Bald Head. Oh, yeah.

I got you. I got you. So other than the poker games on the buses or on the flights, give me some other good times in philly because this is like listen i mean you watch it now and pap you have to see this is i'm glad you're on because what you're saying like this is what you expected like you expected to be in the middle of this chaos and you were in the middle of it in boston obviously you know what it's like but you were expecting to be in the middle of the type of chaos that's going on around Citizens Bank Park right now yeah I mean look

that's what I went there for and um you know like I said unfortunately it didn't happen but man you know injuries and father time are part of the game I get that but you know Philly's a great city when you're winning in it. It sucks when you're losing in it, but everything sucks when you're losing. You need to step up your game when you're losing. Some of the funnest times I always would have would be fishing in spring training. I used to love to go fishing in spring training. The funny story is we stole Kyle Kendrick's boat one day.

He was from Clearwater. And we stole Kyle Kendrick's boat. And we were running it a little bit too fast in the bay. Kind of ran into something. Thank God we didn't get hurt too bad. But we pretty much totaled his boat. Really? He had a nice boat.

Real nice boat, man. And thank God it wasn't like we weren't going too fast but man it was funny he got mad well well you and i are in the same fancy football league now i don't think he's getting winning any money to buy himself like i told you my favorite nation was a donation and he is just straight donation well you aren't getting it either my friend i mean come on let's go pick it up i'm making my run late i'm making my all right so another guy i love you know love talking with you because you'll talk about anything and uh another guy um who is in the middle of this is bryce harper right correct okay so i going to ask you the same question I asked you about watching Philadelphia. Like, when you watch Bryce Harper right now, like, what's your, like, instinctual,

what's your feeling toward him? When I watch Bryce Harper right now, I see a new and improved leader that I did not see when I played with. Okay. I see. If you pay attention to what Dust dusty baker said in his interview about him he said yeah you know i had my time he was young we had a lot of run-ins and he thanked me for those run-ins i don't know if you saw that interview but i think that you know run-ins and

intensity is all part of baseball but i think everything's come to a culmination for him now and i'll bet you he would be thankful for our run in just like I am. I'm thankful because you learn and you grow and you become a man. You figure things out in life. And it's not – people want to get their panties in a wad about it, but it's part of life. It happens on and off the field. And I think he's in a good spot, man.

That's why I'm picking them to win because i feel like he has finally hit that culmination in his career have you talked to him no we don't talk no we don't talk anymore we i mean ever since ever since that happened ever since we talked right after yeah we talked right after of course and uh we everything was good after that we talked and um uh you know if i was to see him at a field today we still i'd go up and say hey and chat with him catch up and see how everything is for sure we don't have that kind of animosity with him anymore no but um you know i mean like i said before jason barrett has kicked my ass way more than that behind closed doors. So it's all good, man. You know, it really is.

And so it's a good point. You know, it's like, and we forget this. And there's a lot of this stuff that probably happens behind closed doors. And there's a lot of younger. How old was he at that? Like 21? Yeah, I think. Yeah.

Yeah. So, I mean, a lot of this stuff happens and it's just and then you flash forward to he's what 30 now yeah who isn't different from 21 to 30 right man you know i mean it's it's it's the whole process and and man like honestly i could really say man i'm i'm i'm proud of his development, man. Like, I'm proud to say, man, I played with this guy. But, you know, we had a run in. Big deal, man.

If you ask 100 players across the board, every single one of them is going to say, yeah, so. Big deal. And if he stays in this past, he's going to be one of the greatest players to ever play, you know. But throughout that process, he has had to learn a lot just like i didn't become safe leader in two historic franchises right out the gate i learned a lot of shit along the way man so tell me give me an instance now that you know and maybe not exactly the same sort of situation but someone who did the something similar to you that helped you realize that hey you realize that,

hey, you know what? I was young, you know, whatever it is. Was there a moment like that or was it just over time? Tim Wakefield. Yeah. Me and Mike Tim got into it during BP and Canada Yards one day. I remember my big poppy was hitting BP in the cage and his fat ass comes running down.

Hey, guys. Hey, guys. Hey, guys. Hey, guys. Calm down, guys. It's okay. It's okay. And we're like, get the fuck out of here. You know, we just – anyway.

Awful. A lot of guys, man. And so, you know, it was part of the game. I don't know if it's that much part of the game now, Rob. Yeah, well, I mean, because there's more young guys, I mean, honestly, right? And they're expected to do more right out of the game. When Bryce Harper was that age,

there wasn't nearly as many 21-year-olds expecting to... He was the aberration of it all. Correct. Groundbreaker. Yeah, so it's good, man. I'm glad that you have that perspective. I'm also glad that you get a chance.

You have the perspective also of being in Philadelphia. I know you're buddies with a bunch of the Phillies guys. I know because they're in our fancy football league. But it's cool that you guys get to sort of experience this, right? Seeing these same fans that booed and cheered and went everything through to the other. And now are going nuts, right? I mean, yeah.

I mean, and I think about this one time. You can go on Google this one, man. Because it shows me putting the people's elbow on one of the Philadelphia fans. He tried to, he was talking shit to me the whole game and decided to run on the field and jump the bullpen. I met him at defense.

I gave him a people's elbow and a chokehold. He went limp and the security guards dragged him off the field. Boy, he was mad. I don't remember that. I don't think that's even on Google. Did anyone know about this or no?

I'm pretty sure you could just type in Papelbon. People's elbow. Billy's bull. Okay. All right. Yeah. All right. So as we sit here heading into game three, it's 1-1.

What's your prediction? We're going back to Philadelphia. My prediction is Philadelphia is going to win 2-3 back in Philadelphia. I think the Houston Astros are going to sneak one in. I think they're all going to be fairly tight games. I don't think any of these games will be blowouts. I think they're going to be dogfights. We probably are going to see a few extra inning games again,

I would go as far to say. Houston Astros bullpen is in a better situation than the Phillies. Yeah, but Rob is making all the right decisions for the Phillies right now. The Phillies are hot. Man, you can go a million ways, right? Sounds like you have a gambling podcast. Yeah, well, I just know what I know, Rob. Right. Sounds like, sounds like you have a gambling podcast. Yeah. Well,

I just know what I know, Rob. I know. Well, listen, I have to ask you as a pitcher, cause I've never pitched. This is coming off of game two.

I woke up this morning and the great thing about Twitter, you haven't, where have you been on Twitter? You disappeared after seven. I know, bro. And I hate it, man, but I've been so busy

with my company diago give a shout out to them man we are and uh we're trying this new marketing scheme i don't know if i'm gonna switch it to a diago account man i've been kind of they're putting the pressure on me to do that so i may even get away from the podcast stuff and because man i i i know man i want to still do it for fun listen jesus this is why we're rolling rob we'll talk we'll talk we're in seven different states yeah we'll talk offline about your marketing strategy i think you know so uh but um but i'll get back to the twitterverse okay all. All right. So, but my point was I woke up and there's like the great thing about Twitter. By the way, Pat, Twitter in the World Series is awesome. Like, it's awesome.

I love it. I don't know if you saw that the Taco Bell retweeted me the other day. Yes. Yeah, you saw that? Yeah. Yeah. I had to order 210 million tacos in the drive-thru uh hello how can i help you today yes could i order 231 million tacos please

sure would you like anything else no i think that's it that's it great like any sauce for your food today um no i think with this planeane's good enough. Thank you, though. You're welcome. You can move forward. Thank you. You're welcome. Oh, my. Anyway, it's great. Great stuff, man.

Who'd have think Kyle Schwarber, man? Great stuff. Right? Right? Almost, hey, I almost put, you know, you can bet on that. I almost put some money on Schwarber. Honestly, God's honest truth, I was like, I'm just going to take the guy that nobody thinks because every year it's been

like an Ellsbury or a Speedy guy. Yeah. Or Mookie Betts, you know. I was like, take Schwarber. Did he – you don't know the odds on that, do you? The odds plus 1,100 or plus 1,200. Okay. All right.

Well, I would have been even poorer because not only did I have to buy 210 million tacos, but I would have had to lost the bet. But my point is that Twitter is awesome during the World Series. I would have loved to do it when you were playing during the World Series because it adds a whole new element. And when I wake up today, the thing that I see is Frambois Valdez basically wiping his hand all over his wrist and his hand. And did you see that stuff? Yeah.

Yeah. All right. So obviously, listen, I mean, we know that when you played, everyone's been open. There's Bullfrog and everything else. Yeah. But now they're supposed to be cracking down, and you're at the World Series, and I'm sorry, I see the guy wiping his hand, and then they have, now they have video of him wiping his hand on his uniform

as he's walking to the ump. Like, what is happening? That's a head scratcher, yeah. You know, man, look, I don't really know how to comment on this because I was not a stick-em guy, Rob. I was just a spit or like some gum and a spit with some rosin because I wanted that ball to come out of my hand fast. This was before spin rate happened.

I always, man, let me spin this son of a bitch as hard as I can. So in my split, with my split finger, you wanted it coming out smooth too. So it never really was that. And I bought Buddy, man. We had some precautions in the bullpen that, you know, shoot, man. Like stuff that would just blow your mind, man, especially some of the Dominican players. I can't really get into it, but, man,

there was some stick them that you wouldn't even believe. But it's supposed to be – the point was is that we're sitting here at the World Series, you know, a year and a half out from this stuff. And, like, God bless Twitter. It's not going away. No, it's not. sitting here at the world series you know a year and a half out from this stuff and like yeah god bless it's not going away no it's not that's that's the yeah that's basically it in a nutshell it's not going away uh the last thing is because i do want to get to this is about the art of celebrating okay and i wanted to do a separate podcast. Maybe this will be a separate podcast. I'll take this.

What I'm going to ask you is that I love, I love locker room celebrations. People don't understand. We were talking with Cora about this the other day. People don't get it that it's such a long season. It's such an investment. No matter what you win, you're, you have the right to celebrate whatever way you want. And I love the celebrations and backward hat Dave Dombrowski and whatever. But there is nobody.

I'm going to contact some other people, maybe Gomes or somebody else, and say, okay, the art of celebrating when you win a series. Because speaking of Google, I google jonathan papelbon celebrating wins and i'll find you with a beer box on your head dancing around in your underwear right give me your take on celebrating the give me give me give me basically the blueprint on how to celebrate okay my blueprint it may be different than others but my blueprint is the fact celebrate. Okay, my blueprint. It may be different than others, but my blueprint is the fact that I've worked my ass off with no break. And if you give me any ounce to celebrate, I'm going to do it.

I've been on teams where they're like, oh, it's the first round. We're not celebrating. Bullshit. Y'all can go home. I'm going to stay here, and I'm still going to celebrate. And, you know, my motto was play hard, work hard. And so my goal was to try to throw up. I wasn't satisfied until I was thrown up the next morning.

I mean, I felt like if that happened, it was a pretty good night. Hey, listen, we all have to have goals, right? Yeah. good night hey listen we all have to have goals right yeah and now now you know kilts and underwear and other things may come into play but you can't be scared man you got to be you man you've worked all this hard man so you know yeah your wife your wife might give you these uh looks you got to keep moving man who so if i was going to do a separate podcast on this who would you say i should call who do you say you've gotta get your johnny gomes you definitely gotta get uh your pvs you gotta get um i mean napoli's like napoli's obviously one but he he disappeared he

left for three days so i don don't know if that factors in. Maybe. And I feel like, you know, with Poppy, as much as he's done it, you know, he's become a pro, you know. So, you know, your Kurt Schillings and the other guy, you know, they're not – so, you know, you got to just let them do their thing. Well, I said to Cora back in – I said there was one guy and listen i like this guy a lot it's just everyone approaches it differently but jd drew just like left yeah he just went home yeah oh yeah i wrote his ass many times about that

i tell you what pro move from a reporter's perspective, collect the corks. Great Christmas gifts. Yeah. I mean, you can collect the bottles, but we have to collect the corks. All right. Well, I think we've solved a lot of problems today, Pap, as always. If I can help you on this Sunday morning, man, I'm going to get back to boiling my peanuts, man.

Okay. All right. Listen, your brand has never been hotter. Thank you. Baseball's been boring. Thanks to you. Okay. Thank peanuts, man. Okay. All right. Listen, your brand has never been hotter. Thank you. Baseball isn't boring. Thanks to you. Okay. Thank you, man.

I appreciate it.