High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - Can The Phillies Play The Padres Everyday?

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

James Seltzer and Jack Fritz react to the Phillies sweep of the Padres and give their thoughts on Cristopher Sanchez's historic scoreless streak coming to an end. To buy tickets for the High Hopes Night in Reading CLICK HERE.Presented by Miller Lite.To purchase Ring The Bell by Jack Fritz and Kevin Reavy go to RingTheBellBook.com

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The crowd is singing high hope. I feel a little less alone. So another edition of my guest, sponsored by Miller Light, official partner of the Philadelphia Phillies, tastes like Miller Time, Philadelphia, celebrate responsible. We got so much you got to get into. Fritz and I actually saw each other at a baseball game today. What a beautiful thing. You've got Christopher Sanchez, which obviously I think will be the lead.

We'll get into, you know, the Adolus Garcia resurgence. So much you get into, but let's just like start where we should start because we've done a really bad job of usually starting here where we need to. Come hang out with us. June 10th, that is six days from today. It is Wednesday night. We will be in Warrington. So the place we will be right here is, I happen on.

Blue Jays. Blue Jays, thank you. Blue Jays in Warrington. It is out right in the heart of like near Horsham, Warrington, like merger there, like Office 611. So pretty easy to find. Blue Jays, type it in. We will be at Blue Jays.

Wednesday night, this upcoming Wednesday, June 10th, watching the fills. Miller Ludd. on sale. We will have tribute questions to win Philly's tickets. It's going to be an awesome time. We have more events coming up.

We'll get to those a little later. But what matters right now in this moment, June 10th, Wednesday, please coming out with us. We haven't had a high-hop's event. It feels like forever. So like all our people, we miss you coming out.

Fritzie. Yeah, so that'll be fun. I feel like I can actually set foot back in the Horsham area. Area. Look at you. Yeah, that's high. quality podcasting because

the Rust and Golden Knights that beat Happer O'Horsham this year avenging. Oh, super important. They avenged the loss of 2012 when we had three run leading the seventh in the umpire. I didn't know where you were going with this. I thought, I didn't know if there's like a Joe versus Jack thing. Like I had no idea where this was going. No, this is this is the worst loss of my life

was the 2012. Ah, good. Second round playoffs. We were an eight seed. One seed was Haber O'Horsham. We had him up by three runs in the seventh. We blew that lead in the seventh. We struck him out. Actually, at the end of the game. The Empire made a horrible call. I'm definitely, I'm definitely not over it. It was ABS in high school when you need them. I was crazy. It was one of the worst calls of all time.

And everyone's still talking about to this day. But shots of the Golden Knights actually real quick, we will get to the Phil's. They are. Yes, let's leave with the Golden Knights. That is the key. I mean, it's one thing to lead with our event. They were trying to get people to shout to Miller Light, you know, all that stuff. Another thing to lead with Rustin.

So after a sweep, by the way, of the Padres, own the Padres. Go ahead. They play Springfield tomorrow in the state playoffs. So they've officially gone farther than I ever did. I am very happy for them. Amazing. Without Bulldog Fritz on the Hill. Well, dude, their start of this year is,

throws 95 and is going to Vanderbill. So a little different than the 82. 84. Oh, don't play. Your boy sat back in the day. So, no, shout to the Knights. Shows of the Phil's, baby. Hell yeah, buddy.

Oh, yeah. If they can play the Padres all the time, they might be a lot. So that was going to be my joke is, can we just play every single game against the Padres? And it's funny, too, because the Padres, you know, good baseball team for the most part. They're playing the Phillies.

And really huge, too, because, you know, the Padres, like, look, I know that last, I don't want to say the divisions over because last year, what was it? Was it last year or two years ago with the Tigers and the, and the Guardians? Last year was last year, right? Like 15 games are like, so, like, we know that weird things can happen. And all that. But like, it is far more likely that we're going to be competing for a wildcard spot. And the Padres are right there.

Like, this was an important six games over nine game stretch or whatever for this team, both in the now and just needing the wins, but also, like, in terms of starting to look ahead, it mattered. It's the season series over the Padres. It's wins against the team you're competing with. I know that the Dodgers, especially the two losses and after the win, you know, the fun one and the way they kind of just, you know, stunk up the joint in that last game, had everyone feeling down after a four and two road trip.

I think coming back here and sweeping the Padres and seeing the end of Castiano's, by the way, which we'll get to. It was a good week as a Phillies fan. I don't know that people thought it was going to be a few days ago. Yeah, no, it was, it was huge. And sorry. Oh, so for those who are just listening to the pod like normal, Jack is doing it from the booth at the stadium.

I'm at home. So I can see you keep giving like fist pounds to people and you're like, hey, hey, it is a fishbowl. Like, it is a wild thing being there. Well, it feels like a playoff game. At least we're not seeing Sandy Gallen walking through here, mocking us. No. No.

Sreek, okay, no big deal. Yeah, yeah, no. Actually, Adolias just walked by and Edmundo. You should be, like, bowing to you being like, keep the hope alive, Big Doc. Never doubted my, never doubted my guy. Honestly, that was, we hung out a fair amount today. That was by far the happiest you were today when Adolus Homer. You were like, did he?

Yeah, well, because they, he's so important. He's so important. And he smoked it, and he smoked it, too. And he had the double yesterday and like, yeah, a little. Signs alive. Signs of life. No, he, and he was an old school Adolese, you know, bat flip. It was awesome.

It's the first, it's the first real Adola-Carsia home run we've gotten in the Thalilius. It's the first time it's like a classic Adola's Homer, you know? Yeah, it's awesome. And, you know, as of right now, James, they're in a playoff spot. They're in a playoff spot. Oh, did it happen? I knew they were half game out coming in the day. And it's just so crazy, man.

They were, like, 919. 9 and 19 was not that long ago. 19 was not like it was yeah it was it was three months ago and they slowly dug their way out of it they're 32 and 29 now uh maybe 30 i think yeah 32 or 2 no there might be 33 and 29 now um and and like they had a 10 game losing streak in there and and the fact that as as pretty much as quickly as they have yeah dug well quicker than the last time i mean like they were deeper we're not we just a couple days ago i got to to the day that

that you already got fired in, in 2021. You know what I mean? I know. I know. 22. Excuse me. And they are 33 and 29.

We're a Phillies podcast. But, but yeah. I thought it was 33, but I wasn't enough sure to jump in. Yeah, yeah. Well,

I'm so bad with, I'm so bad at looking at standings in June and like the records in June. It's not something I really started digging in on until August. But, but yeah. So 919, they lost,

they had 10 game losing streak in there. And here they are now. They're in a playoff spot all of a sudden. And you start looking at the teams around them. You're like, I don't know. I think the Phillies are better than them. And you certainly feel good. It's funny with viewing and watching and talking about the team and talking to people about the team.

Because it really feels like no one knows what to feel about them. Because they have an unbelievable starting staff. You feel decently about the bullpen. You know, there's some arms that you need to. start pitching better, namely, Brad Keller and Avarado did not have a good, a good ninth today, but overall, like Duran's doing what he's doing.

Duran's been great. Duran's been great. But there's this, it's truly a, do you view them more glass half full or glass half empty? Where the glass half empty says, I've seen them pitch well before. I've seen them go on runs before. They were always a good team.

They weren't a bad team. And for the first time since May 18th, they scored more than four runs in a game. Congratulations. Yeah. They hadn't had a game with 10 plus hits in it since earlier than that. So the glass half empty is, well, the offense still kind of stinks. And it's good that they had a good game today.

But that doesn't take away what the run here has been. But then the glass half full is, well, can the offense really be this bad? Is, is boom this, is stop this? Is it all this? Turner, the whole thing. Turner, Crawford. or is there some room for growth there on top of a first three in the rotation, we're monitoring the NOLO situation that you currently feel really, really good about.

But I don't think anyone knows how to feel about them. And to be honest, I'm stuck in the middle of both of them. I see both sides. Well, and that's not even talking about the overarching thing, where we've done this four years in a row now. And it's like, no matter how good they could go on a row. running the day. They could win their next 10 straight games and they could challenge the Dodgers and

take the division. And it won't matter how good they're looking. Even in September, people are going to have those fears that when the playoff starts, the offense is going to look the same. The pitching's better. The bullpen's better like you're facing pictures who are locked in at all times. And people are going to say, well, it's going to be the same old story. And that's the shame of it.

And that's why this team, like, and I do think you can separate the regular season and the postseason in a lot of ways because it is a long season and it's we've talked about it so many times it's it's like more than anything just no fun and lame like why follow the sport if you're just like well i don't care until the playoffs like that it's just not fun but i do think that it is hard as a fan just emotionally how you feel you can't like fake how you feel it's impossible not to have that whole thing hanging over you no matter when they're playing well or not you just especially with the offense thinking if they were like winning games 10 to 10 to 2 and this and that and like putting up numbers I think we might feel a little differently even though that would still be there but it's just

even though they're winning games to your point I mean it's it's it's three two it's two one it's three one it's like so it's hard to kind of because we know they could pitch they've always been able to pitch so it is it's honestly it's the weirdest kind of most you know unsure of how to feel with the team that that in this run because it's just kind of built on it you know and last year kind of scarred me because if there's ever a time to believe that they had turned the corner offensively it was kind of last year uh like 2024 you knew that team was done you know 20 24 they were cooked for a while but but last year after they got baiter and listen who knows how that dodger series goes if baiter and wheeler and if wheeler doesn't get her we don't we really don't bring that up enough

like it is what it is no excuses but no it's pretty crazy that weiler wheeler got hurt and they you know like we kind of don't talk about it because it was so far before the playoffs i tried to tell rea that and she pooh-poot it in my argument. She didn't want to hear it. No, no, no, no. She didn't like that one. But, um, but yeah, no, and, and, but last year was like, okay, Schwerber's doing what he's doing.

Trey's the batting champ, uh, you know, Harrison Bader has an 800 plus OPS as a billy. As great a trade deadline acquisition as you could have. Like, he was as good as you could play. So, you know, like last year kind of felt like the year where it's like, if they're not going to do it now, they may never do it. So there's just going to be, it's ultimately going to, we, we, we, I think we said this maybe, early last year, early in 2024,

it's kind of like, I don't know what to say about the offense. Either they're going to do it or they're not going to do it. And, you know, I think it's ridiculous to have too strong to take either way because it's baseball and you know that you have to go out there and play the games. And maybe this time they hit the home run and we all freak out and say the offense is fine. And like maybe Bryce and Schwerber and Trey all get hot at the same time.

Like things happen, you know, yeah. So the definitive nature of they're going to do it this year or they're not going to do it this year i have no idea i have no idea um but i certainly would feel how they've been going offensively way more fearful heading into a postseason than they've turned a corner from the from the offensive side of the of things yeah again it's one of those things where i really think they have to do it in the regular season but until they do it in the playoffs certainly for a couple rounds or whatever i i just think people are going to always be waiting for the shoe to drop so wow that's why we need a wild card baby no more division title yeah so

No, we don't want it. We don't want it. Let's get hot and get in and run the table. So much more fun. I don't want any off days. Stay hot. I mean, they've just been better empirically. It is what it is. Like, they have been better. So, you know, all right. Look, we're like 14 minutes into the pot and we have not talked about Christopher Sanchez. And I feel like that is a we should be fired. A bad job by us. Let's be honest. I mean, look, obviously a bummer that it ended. I knew it would be something like that I said on the, I'm like, it's either going to be a quick soul home run out of nowhere or it's going to be a double and a single. And it's just like over like that. And granted,

if Adolfo Garcia played left field, it wouldn't be over. But I don't, do you come down more? I think it was like a mix of like people coming down on the, I'm super sad that this ended and he didn't get there. And the other side, which is where I'm at, which is I couldn't believe it kept happening. It was it was going. I, you know, I remember Hersheiser's thing. I remember I remember I was seven years old, like it in my lifetimes. No one's, you know, dumb what Sanchez is done. I, I, when that run happened, I was like, that sucks. But I was definitely with the people standing up and applauding and saying,

I'm really happy I got to experience this and see the greatest scoreless streak. Left-handed pitcher has had in 150 years of baseball or whatever. I don't know. Take us through the Jack Fritz emotions when, when, especially because they happen quick, he's got the two outs. He's cruising. And it's like, boom, boom, over. So I was driving around Walker and he wasn't sleeping, to be completely honest with you.

Classic situation these days. So I was trying to, it was one of those things where I'm trying to listen to what he was saying, but he was also getting a little tired. So he's kind of just like talking and just it wasn't making any sense. So I was trying not to completely ignore him. Like tune him out, but also like tune him out. Yeah. But then he allowed the hit because he got the first two outs.

And I kind of checked out. I was like, oh, my gosh, he's really just going to breeze through this. We're going to be fine. And even when he got the double, I was like, well, he's not going to allow him run now. I mean, that's not how this whole thing works. And then I just,

I heard Scott say, the balls hit in the left field, and I stopped listening to Walker, of course. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Of course he's called saved. And it was a, I was like, I think I like hit the side, hit the side of my car or like the door and walker was like what are you mad about and i was like

ah you just see that you wouldn't get it you wouldn't get it so that's you didn't know in the moment how bad the brandon marshal was no i didn't until i got home i can only imagine what that was like and it reminded me of jalen at the end of the 22 super bowl yeah that's actually a really that hell mary that's actually a really good goal like just the lamest weakest attempt that you could it was unbelievable. Like an average left fielder probably throws him out of the plate. Well, he has a good arm wise. No, I'm saying throw-wise.

Like that, yeah, he doesn't have a horrible arm, but that throw was a all-time bad throw, unbelievably bad throw. Why couldn't that ball hit the right-field? I know. It was like a Ben-Rivir-esque throw there. If it's hit the right field, we're still celebrating. He's out by five feet if it's in the right field.

Yeah, I was surprised. He was Thai France. It's not like he's a burner out there. No, that was the point. Like, it was close. It was off. If the throat even bit on the plate, as slow as it was and as, like, laboring as it was, they still might add a shot.

He must not got a good grip on it. I don't know what. I don't know what was going on. Maybe the pressure got to him, you know? I don't know. I don't know. Marcia doesn't seem like a huge pressure gets to him kind of guy. Seems like a go to the flowsman. But I was watching the video, I was pretty shocked that it was not at least a closer play.

It was unbelievable. It was so bad. He got a good charge on it and everything. No, no. I thought when he got to the ball, I was like, we got a shot here, baby. And that wasn't close. Come on, Marcy. So, yeah, I mean, he, on one hand, I was appreciating history.

A 50 plus inning scoreless streak. It's ridiculous. It's nonsense. Hadn allowed run since April. You know, it's June. And being able to witness that, again, there's, he has the fifth longest streak in the history of baseball. We've seen 19 perfect games. I mean, that's.

No, it's a great way to put it. Yeah. That is rarefied error for what we had what we just witnessed with Chris Sanchez. And for the rest of our lives, I don't think we're going to see anyone top it. Of course we're not. I mean, like anything that happens to baseball, but like like the odds say we're not. Again, he is fifth all time. It was like 88, like 60 something, 04 and like whatever Walter Johnson was ahead of him.

Like in the teens, you know what I mean? Maybe prior to that. Like the point is those are the four best in the history prior to Sanchez. it is so unlikely we'll ever see something like this again. Yeah, it's it. So I was appreciating that. I was bummed that it ended. It happened so fast.

I was, I was not ready for it. But yeah, I mean, overall, the ovation was crazy. I love the ovation. I was so happy.

Definitely the loudest ovation in the history of Philadelphia sports where the other team scored is my guess. Probably fair. Right, like very unlikely. That Joe said on the. maybe Chase Utley homering with the Dodgers and came back. But even then, I don't think it would have been a minute long standing ovation the way that was, you know?

I was there for that one. And I did give him two standing ovation. We deserved it. But like, was it, wasn't this prolonged one minute thing? I don't know. No, it wasn't. And also there was 25,000 people. Maybe it was 20,000.

It was the lower bowl was mostly full up, but it was not 40 some, like last night was. So certainly a different feel. But yeah, the ovation was crazy. The smile was awesome. Shout out to Hunter Wendellstatt. Shout out to Hunter Wendellstatt. That was very cool. Understanding the moment and all that.

Very cool. In a game that is now kind of on a timer. Yeah, yeah. All of a sudden. Yeah. He slowed it down. And that was great. So shout of the Sanche.

I wish it would have went further. It would have been crazy. If he like, even just reaching the next start where he's in reach. I know. If we had had one more, one more start with, I know.

That would have been really neat. He's in reach to take down her. Shizer, the anticipation. Now, a part of me was happy that it happened at home. If it went on the road, obviously, I think the baseball fans are smart to where they would give him a standing ovation on the road as well. But at least at home, he was able to get that kind of reception. So on one hand, I was kind of happy to end it at home rather than ending on the road.

So, and God forbid, if he broke the streak on the road, that would also be. Yeah, it just would have been a, it would have taken something away from that. A little bit. But what a run and one. one that I don't think I'm ever going to see or we may never see again. I don't know. No Philly may ever top of Chris Sanchez. Yeah, I think they probably won't in our lifetime, but it's obviously probably,

let's be to baseball is that a Philly could do it next year because baseball's weird and and cool, but unlikely. All right. Let's get to another pitcher because you mentioned him at the top. And I do think that, you know, the Sanchez thing is obviously the basic thing. But I think if you're looking at the last week and a half of Philly's baseball and looking at something, I think the two. things that you're like, is this something?

Are obviously Adolus, which we'll get to. And Aaron Nola, like back to back good starts now, both against the Padres, you know, six innings and five innings. It wasn't like, you know, he was, you know, awesome. But he did like, I test wise look better. He looked more convicted in his pitches. He was getting some swing and miss. What did you make a Nola, you know, obviously we talked about the last start,

but coming back out against the Padres and pitch him off or wellish. Yeah, I mean, I thought I thought Nola was I thought Nola was great. I thought the zip was back on his stuff, which is really, really important. And he is he is really honing in on that plan of peppering the outside corner with with fastball or with a sinker and with a knuckle curve and just spamming hitters with the knuckle curve over and over and over again. And, you know, he's pitching backwards really, really well. But like those two pitches tumbling off each other and not knowing which. is going to, you know, dart which way, but look the same out of hand, it's a pretty good setup he has. I think the biggest qualifier here is that he's facing the Padres who have just a horrible

offense. So you can't get too ahead. And no left-handed hitting, like to speak of. Yeah, I mean, Merrill, but like none that are like, you know, good right now. And the one that did was sheets who took him yard. Now, that was a good pitch. I don't, I don't think that was any super, super cause for concern. But yeah, I mean, command's been really good. That's three straight starts without a walk. And I just think he's pitching east to west much better where he is staying out of the middle of zone. I thought early his command wasn't great. He was in the middle of zone. Pajas were just kind of missing it. But he's pitching east to west. He is having those pitches tunnel off of each other. He is keeping things out of the heart of the zone. He is, when he's going high, he's missing out of the

zone or hitting the top of it. So I thought it was a really impressive start. I know the Padres aren't great. I know it was only five innings. I'm perfectly fine if he is a five inning. Me too. That was going to be the thing I said. If he's just a five,

if he's five innings two runs, I would sign up for that every single error. No one is there. Don't care. Don't care. And I think not only deserves credit for having a guy warmed up even to start that inning. I agree with you,

which we like, and I think Topper probably got a raw deal in a lot of ways. He had some issues with that. That was something that would happen like from time to time with Topper, more than it should have with someone of his experience. Yeah, like leaving the guy in a little bit too long or not having a guy ready to go, it would happen a good amount.

So, of course, you know, it's funny. The two egregious things that could have been the end of both recent Phillies manager's tenure is Gerardi not going to Canable after the Harper home run. and Thompson leaving Painter out there for the sixth in Atlanta and not having a lefty up to face Michael Harris coming off the bench. But yeah, no, I thought, I thought, Noel, he's mostly keeping the ball down the zone. When he's going up, he's going out of the zone.

I don't want to get too ahead of myself because it's the Padres, but at the same time, commands teams better. His fastball was at the 95 a couple times, which was good to see. And at least there might be a new plan here that he is adjusting two on the flies. He's ditched the four seamer. You threw 13% four seamers this last time out. So encouraging.

But I want to see it against a different. The White Sox would be a good test this weekend. I am really proud of you. We like mentioned it and alluded to it, but we're 24 minutes into this podcast. And you have not gone off about Adolos Garcia. Sir, the floor is yours. Oh, yes.

That's I am the number one. Well, it's somehow like, you know, it's like how Elliot just kind of by happenstance, became the Kevin Petullo defender, even though at no point was he really super in on Patulow, but he liked him enough and no one else liked him at all. Like, you have somehow because, especially because the funny thing is like, when they signed Garcia, I think I was more excited about it than you were. Like, but you're, you're the guy.

Welcome. I mean, I like Adoles. I just, I, it's more I want him to be really good than I think that I, so bad, so bad. Then I think he is. So all I'm saying is that there's signs of life here. I mean, the home run today was good. He smoked another ball late. It's happening right at a guy.

Every game he smoked the ball. And that's at least what he was doing early in the season where he wasn't getting all these hits, but he was at least hitting the ball hard. And the streak that he was going through, the 3-57 streak, it was like no hard contact. So at least if he's getting back to hitting the ball hard,

then maybe he can kind of work his way out of this thing. So, again, the bar is just so low that he has to clear to be a valuable player for this. team. He's a great builder. He doesn't have to give that much offensively to be like above average for the team. And I just, I don't, I don't want to go spend the prospect capital to get another bad in here. I mean, they, they probably are going to have to. He can change their minds in the next month and a half. I think he's going to have to really get on a run here to change their minds. But I like the dude. I think he can provide some pop. Hopefully today is the start

of, you know, maybe, maybe the weather warms up a little bit. We know he wasn't a cold guy. He will... Yeah, he certainly let us know by his attire. He will find it a little bit, but I just, I think there's a better player in there than we have seen. And he's working... We know there is. Like, he hasn't shown it the last couple years, but he has done it at the major league level

where he has shown that he can hit for power if nothing else to the major league level. Like, he's shown it, you know, he might never be able to do it again, but he has done it. And he came on the off day and worked in the cage. Oh, you know you love that. And I think Stocker said this, that they're trying to shorten a swing path a little bit. They have to. He was laid on fastballs like it was his job in a way. He was so, so, so far behind fastballs.

And then trying to cheat to get to him and being super out in front of breaking balls is a bad combination for him. So maybe he's working on something. I certainly would say I'm more in the hope camp than the believe camp, but at least the last, the last three games since the off day, he is hitting the ball hard, sometimes right at people. But maybe that home run today is a little bit of, all right, I got my like swagger back in a way. Confidence matters, dude. We talk about it. It's all sports.

But I think in hitting maybe as much as anything, because you have to go through so much failure. You have to like believe in yourself, believe in your ability. And we always like, how many times do people talk about when they're going through a slump or when they're hot? Like the opposite, if it's like, I can't see anything up there versus it looks like a beach ball up there. You know, so much of that is going up and thinking you're going to hit it. And, you know, when you're mired in the slump that he was in, especially when you're coming to a new place where, you know, you've been batting clean up at times, you're buying high in the order.

Like, there's clear an expectation and need of a right hand hitter. Like, you know, it's a lot of pressure. So I, another manningly shout, I mean, he's been really good. I mean, obviously the short everything at the top, but, you know, dropping a doll is to eight and not like, like, he was so bad. It's not like a bold move. But I do appreciate that Maddingly's been, it's seemingly more willing than Topper to kind of shake things up continuously when things aren't going well.

And I think for the most part, those type of moves, the bone days off, the Garcia thing. Like it feels like when he's making these kind of shakeups that they've, for the most part, worked, at least in the short term at times. Yeah, I do like Schwerper going to the top. And I do agree to drop in the Dolies down. The one thing they're going to have to figure out with Schwerber at the top is, like, how long can they keep rolling tray out there on the two spots? There's been two straight games.

They didn't matter today. But there's two straight games where they intentionally walk Schwerp or two get to Trey. Yeah. And it's tough. And have the big moment find Trey again. Also pretty rude by Craig Stamman to do that. That's his former teammate. Yeah, you would think, Craig.

Come on. Regardless. So, so yeah, I, but that thing is going to be whether it's, God forbid, if harp would hit too. But what, can you imagine? What a crazy thought. The really, the really bold one that I think. kind of been piecing together is and I totally understand it creates a problem late in games but if you just want to try to jump the starter if you go Mars Schwerber Harper and get

Schwerber behind an aggressive move but yeah well against the right of you you know struggles against love dude there's thought to it you would have to go score a bunch of runs against the righty yeah you yeah big time because obviously it creates a problem but the same time you're getting them the most of bats in a game possible which is what you want And if it really becomes dire, I do trust Edmundo a lot in the seventh inning on. Against a lefty. I agree. No, you're not wrong.

To come on and get a hit if you really needed to. Obviously, in that scenario, I'd want Crawford not betting ninth. I'd want to betting eighth or seventh just to at least not have four straight lefties. But I understand the match of problems that creates late. But if they really just want to, hey, screw it, like let's just get our best players going and bat tray four, maybe that's something. But yeah, especially if no one else starts hitting. I mean, if we keep saying, week after week, it's like these three guys, the only guys who are hitting with any sort of consistency.

It's like, at a certain point, it's like, all right, well, they're the guys. They're the guys. And March just ripping the baseball again, which is good to say. Yeah, the four for four the other night. He's, he's just, he's hitting the ball hard. He's ripping line drives. He's, he's a good hitter right now. If you only, if you could only extend one, him or, him or Durant.

uh wow what a question man both have a year and a half left i mean it's probably marsh right i don't know jenn i don't know either but they've no hitters in this organization right now it's like a bad is like a freaking precious thing i know i know i know the reality is they can probably extend both if they if they want to yeah yeah you know money off the books and all that but yeah yeah yeah but i mean marsh is certainly no the point is to bring it up we've talked about the Duron extension, the possibility of all that. No one has brought up at all the possibility of the March extension. Well, and he's playing

his way into it. He might be a National League all-star. He probably will be. I mean, he's leading in the area second or whatever he is. He's up there. And I think this is the latest into a season of Phillies outfiters have an average this high since upre you in 99. Yeah, I think they splashed that, which is pretty amazing. I mean, look, right now, I mean, I think

Harper, Schwerber, Marsh, Wheeler, Sanchez, Duran, all of All-Star cases. You know, I think Sanchez is Loc City, and I'm sure Schwerber and harp will get him. But like they've got they got the chance. They won't have sick probably, but they have six guys who are all-star worthy.

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Deep Waters, new episodes every Monday. Watch on YouTube or listen on Apple, Spotify, and everywhere else you get podcasts. Fritzey, let's bag it up. All right. Well, right now, Gage Wood is on the mound and Kate Obermuller is on the mill. Oh, my goodness. What a moment for you. So it's a bad night to be M-I-L-B.com.

That's true. Yeah, it's right. You're going to bring it. Bad night. I think Gage already allowed a home run in the first, but that's all right. That's all right. Baby steps. Baby steps.

Wheeler was good today. I know we walked three, which was a little surprising. It's always tough being here. Yeah, we couldn't tell if he was getting squeezed or anything. Couldn't tell at all. Did carry no-hitter into the sixth? There was disappointing seeing that broken up. I was way more locked in on the no-hitter than you were.

Big time. It was also my show there with a bunch of listeners that I was trying to talk to. But yes, I was- Oh, because no other listeners know who I was. I was talking to Jordan and Princeton for at least to have a hour. You're very personal, Jack. Yes, you know me. You can turn it on when you need to.

Yes. You just might not like walk up to as many listeners as I do. You kind of wait for them to walk to you. Correct. And a lot of them were lucky it wasn't a playoff game. I know. Or the Phillies were down or whatever. Yeah, it would have been, yeah, playoff game,

they would just gotten stone, stone from back from you. Like, I'm talking to a wall. Yeah, again, I believe I give off the vibe that I'm fun to watch Phillies games with. That is not the case. It is furthest from the games. Not even close. It's fun to watch Jack watch a Phillies game. But sometimes.

But it could also get concerning as well. But I tell you what, the highs are pretty high because you know what happens with the eyes? I start tackling people. You do. I played one year of football. It didn't go while. I lied to the coaches. Have I already told you this story?

My football story? So I, first off, I couldn't figure out which way to turn as the quarterback so they would never put me in. I didn't know if I left or right. Good work. Good work. Yeah. But obviously I was the best quarterback on the team. I had a hose.

Obviously. Yeah. Cannon. Jeff George back there. I did hit one six spin move in practice and the coaches kind of looked at themselves like do we have a running back here and they saw me run. No, no. They're like, we don't definitely. But my favorite football story for my one year playing L-AFA is obviously I hated playing football because I wasn't a contact guy.

And I made up that I had a rib injury to miss a game. And then like a half hour before the game. I said to my mom, I was like, I feel bad. I should probably go. I'm all right. So I show up to the game and like before the game, my coach goes, you see Jack, he's laying on. He's laying on the line being out here battling through his injury. I need you guys to all.

Be like Jack. Be like Jack. Always, always be like John. A model football player, model worker. Yeah. I wore 17 for Philip Rivers. I was a big Philip Rivers. It's weird.

At NC State, I love the visor. I love the visor. I love the visor. Pushing the ball was always weird for me. It took me a while to get there with him. An atrocious throwing motion. Yeah. Dude, it's like one out of every five Keller outing is going to be excruciating.

Dude, it's somewhere like two out of five, man. He is tough. Well, it's just, what are you going so fast for to throw balls? How about you just slow down for a second? He's just, he's so rushed. He's so rushed. And like, here's what drives me crazy about Keller. He was a milktoast starter who had to have gotten to the big leagues by guts and guile of like 93, you know, had to have had six pitches, had to have had command.

He did pitch in the big leagues as a starter for at least. Yeah, for the rules. Yeah, for a few years. Like, I owned him in fantasy. I had spot starts with Brad Geller on my team for sure. He was a streaming. He was decent. Yeah, you could stream him every once in a while.

He's a streaming option. Yeah. You can stream it. Yeah, totally. So that being the baseline of being an MLB starter, why can you not command the baseball? It's crazy to me. It's 97, the pointless change up,

the sweeper that sometimes sweeps and sometimes does, and the slide, he just drives me nuts. I keep comparing him to Mike Adams because he feels like Mike Adams. And Mike Adams, somehow, when I looked up the other day, I had like a three year, right? Thomas saves. too with Seattle. Didn't he,

Mike Adams? Well, he was, it was Padres. My Goddust came over from the Padres. And he was, you know,

I was thinking, I was thinking to David Ardma. I was getting those too confused. Ah, yeah, yeah. Well, he's actually,

so he's with Texas right before, but that running at, that running out of the Padres. So Mike Adams from, so 09 with the Padres at a 0.73, a 10,

he had a 1.76. 11, he had a 1.1-1-3 and then 2-10 with Texas. And then he came, period, the near 4 ERA. So he just reminds me of Mike Adams. I don't blame him.

It's a good comp. He should be so much better. And I don't know, man. He drives me up a wall. He does not look like a killer on the mound. He looks like he can't wait to give up the lead. And I don't know. I just, I'm not a joint.

Brad Keller should be much better. He should be much better. But he certainly not. How about Castie? Unbelievable, dude. I alluded to it early on. It is, it is so funny. Like, first and foremost, you rarely see a team DFA, a veteran on the road, period, in any situation anywhere.

Like, it's just a rare thing, you know, especially someone who's like a real deal veteran. And for them to do it in Philly, knowing where he came from, what he came out of, like, I just can't imagine that he didn't piss them off in some way. Like, I can't imagine that he didn't do something where they were like, you know what? we're good Nick we're good or or even more so that he was so annoying prior to coming here that we're like we're going to cut him in Philly screw this guy like one way or the other I don't think it was just like ah you know we had a roster the right time we got to make a roster move like he he wore out his welcome incredibly quickly is what I think well and there's the one destiny tweeted it out but uh the quote from Craig Stamin where he said yeah Nick kind of he expressed recently he wanted to play more And it's just like the the wherewithal of where you are. I understand like you're prideful and you want to, you think you still got it.

But at some point, the track record is the track record. So I don't know where he goes from here. I really don't. You might not. Like someone will probably pick him up a low, you know, for no money,

whatever, probably, but he might be done. Like Nick Cassiems might be done. It's major baseball player. It's crazy. It's crazy. And it's a crazy.

A precipitous decline. After just talking about how great the communication was with the Padres and how Stammon playing the game. Oh, I know. It's so funny. It's so funny. And what stood out was out straight. You get a reap and so, you know. They're so straightforward. Oh, well, looks like we might have been on to something. So that was unbelievable when I saw the news.

Honestly, it was easily the most shocking thing that happened this week in Philadelphia. Like, it's just shocking. way more than the AJ trade we expect that was like the most that was the least shocking thing he went to the exact team we expected for the compensation we expected it was just like yeah that way

way more shot yeah pretty nervous about this white socks series the white socks I classic lose two or three at best but dude they're good the white socks I'm saying like classic the Phillies are going to lose two or three like yeah they're in second place all of a sudden the white socks like them and the guardians

out in front and the central they kind of break. They brought up Jacob Gonzalez the other day. Miguel Vargas is awesome. Andrew Bennett-Pendee's having a resurgent little run here. Now they will avoid Davis Martin, which is good because Davis Martin is pretty sick.

But I don't know, man. I'm a little worried. Antanachi, the little left fielder I like a lot. I like a lot. They're a little frisky. It feels like a classic sweep the Padres and then underperforming against the White Taks team coming in. Classic.

And it's Lazzardo Painter Nola So you don't have Sanchez or Wheeler So a little A little concerning From that standpoint But it'll actually be a good test

I know we usually think White Sox is a left-down spot It has to be the first time They came here since Bome took crochet deep Oh my God Remember that? Yeah, yeah And then before that

We had to have been The Velasquez throw out at the plate Well, no, they're here every year now, aren't they? No, you're changing the schedule. It changed the schedule. It changed the schedule. Well, last year they, last year I think they went out there. Oh, do you only go to them once and you face them home and away, home and away?

Is that how it works? Well, you face it. He faced every team once. You face every team, so it's not a series. You don't have like a two-gamer or at least. No, no, no. Like, you only face the NL teams home and away. A.L teams, you just face either home or one.

Once home or away. Okay. But except for like the rival team where they do the Boston thing or whatever, right? Don't we face Boston twice? That could be wrong. No. No. I don't think so.

That was fine. The whole Red Sox rivalry thing. I was like, yeah, sure. Was that a thing? That was our A member where they each team they tried to set up like a rival and he was like Mets and Yankees. And you don't remember this? Yeah, we were like in the Baltimore and Washington and like they would say that you'd play the member before the new schedule. Oh, that's cute.

Well, listen, I mean, when they when they realign baseball and our division is Reds. I know. They can be great. Better of a salary gap then, huh? Talk about getting the short end of the stick. I mean, you'd be the best The worst case in area. Yeah.

So, no, but looking forward to it. It's going to be a tough weekend for me because I'm in a wedding up in the state college area. Oh, no, buddy. So, listen, I got a rehearsal then tomorrow. I don't love being in a wedding. You're not a weddingsman. I know.

I, you like going to a wedding, but being in a wedding night. It's my first wedding I've ever been in. Obviously, very happy from my college roommate, love him to death. being in a wedding is way more expensive one than I thought. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. And also, like, you can't just hang out all day and go to the wedding. Like, you've got obligations all that, you know? And I'm bringing my five-month pregnant wife.

We can't bring the kids. Yeah, it's great. Because it's three and a half hours away. I have, I have to be there at 11. I don't know what she's going to do until the wedding starts. Well, that's the other thing. It's like, yeah, exactly. She has to just like figure it out.

Totally. Yeah. So we will, we'll see what my view. viewing is like this weekend, but we'll be all right. I'm just sick enough to, to figure it out. You'll figure it out. To either be up later, be up super early. Your phone, like doing something. Well, the good part is, and I don't know how the most, one of the most psychotic things about you, which I will never understand, is you get up a 4 a.m. every day and or even earlier, maybe 3.30 every day. Earlier, 3.30. Yeah. And for some reason it used to be three now I'm 3 30 and I'm very excited about it slacking a little bit

yeah yeah very much oh yes but I just don't get how you how your body doesn't actually wake you up at 5 30 in the morning like I know it's crazy well it's mostly because I stay up too late on the weekends because I have to be so diligent during the week about going to bed that on the weekends I'm like screw it I'm watching another movie and then I'm staying too late and I can't sleep a little bit but I can't sleep later like I can never like it just means I'm getting at less sleep like if I go to bed at like three on a weekend night or whatever I don't I don't get up at six, but I get up like eight. So I just can't sleep well.

You know, I can't sleep in effort. Yeah. I'm still up usually 5.30 now. You're always up with me, buddy. Yeah, yeah, listen. Morning you're like, hello. We're grinding. We're grinding.

We're grinding. But looking forward to the weekend. It'll be a fun weekend. Dude, we're a month away from the draft. How about it? Most important thing is actually not that. It's June 10th. And then these other dates I'm about to tell you about.

But June 10th, coming out with there's a Blue Jays in Warrington. We'll tweet it out. We'll have a pot after the weekend on Monday. so we'll have one more time to talk about it. But Blue Jays warrington for the game hanging out. Then these other dates put them down, June 20th. We're going to Redding. We're doing the Red and Phil's Night in it on June 20th.

So a couple weeks away, Jack, I'm sure we'll have a link that we can put out for that. I'm assuming of something. I tweeted out the link. There we go. Okay. And I won't do. It's pinned in my profile. So if you want to find it there.

Yeah, so June 20th, that'd be a good time at the ballpark. Yeah, Redding's the best. We'll try to figure out if we can push them to get gauge to start that night. Brian Rincon is off the I-L, so he is back and healthy. Norie had this first, no way to three-hit game, so maybe he's hitting up a little bit. A lot of those guys will still be there. So June 20th, hopefully it won't be cold and raining like last time. No, like last time, yeah.

We had a lot of fun even still. Totally. So, and maybe we'll throw out the first pitch again, and we'll see how you're going. I will not blow it this time, yeah. Don't give me a kid to throw it to it. And don't have Jack almost killed the kid right before me. And that totally threw me off. Well, I should have been ready.

I was starting at two C-D saw it. You brought it. I know. You did. You did. Yeah, the kid was not ready for it. That's sure. And then June 24th, garage Philly Rittenhouse, the one we were supposed to have on for the Red Sox game. It's rescheduled for June 24th.

So those are the three dates for June locked. And we'll tell you more moving forward. We have more stuff coming. But June 10th in Warren. mentioned it Blue Jays June 20th, Redding Phil's game, June 24th, the remake or, you know, the make it up of a garage written house still. So we'll tweet out and continue mentioning it, but coming out, we really miss you guys. It's been too long.

All right. Fritzi, go home, please. A good day at the ballpark. Yeah, hey. Good day at the ballpark. A sweet. We got a lot of minorly baseball to watch tonight. I'm so excited for you about.

I'm going to bed. I'm going to bed right now, which is going to be awesome. congratulations. It's going to be great. All right. We'll be back after the weekend. I mean, two or three. I'll expect one or three,

but if they could take two or three from the right talks, I'll feel pretty stoked about it. So, all right. We'll be back. Until then, he's friends. I'm soldiers.