High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - Do We Overreact to the Phillies Team?
Episode Date: July 8, 2019James Seltzer and Jack Fritz are back talking about a Phillies team that is now at the All Star break in the wild card hunt. The guys talk the trade deadline and Alec Bohm at the futures game. See ...omnystudio.com/policies/listener for privacy information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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all right we'll dive into it all first real quick jackson's the last time we talked something we
thought never would be made public was made public the bryce harper podcast the bryce harper podcast
happened and i think i think people enjoyed it they should have enjoyed it i mean like we sound like idiots i have not had the heart to listen yet oh i got
like halfway through it i was like oh my god it sounds like i got i pretty much got to the john
middleton line and i was like oh man what a what a disaster what was i doing and i was i was like
listening to it i was like man we're wrong about a lot. Like a lot, a lot.
But yeah,
I'm glad that people got to listen to it.
It's a good listen.
If you haven't listened,
check it out. In my head,
people were listening to that episode
and then immediately listened
to the Bryce Harper emergency podcast.
Which is the way to do it.
And talk about a draining day.
I mean,
it was like literally three minutes
after we finished recording.
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ah,
this is horrible.
And,
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Yeah.
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It's good.
The Padres. Hopefully the team's still good yeah we'll see let's dive into it all right
since the last time we talked you could say things haven't gone great things have happened we said
you know don't get swept by the braves they didn't no positives here they took the first game of the
series which sure didn't think it was possible sure did. Didn't take the rest, though. No. All right.
And then Mets series.
Look, they take two at three, but really felt like they were going to sweep.
And then Jay Garriotta happened.
There's a lot to dive into with that.
Let's just start with it all.
The Phillies at 47 and 43.
They're six and a half back of the Braves.
They're a half game back of the Washington Nationals.
I'm out, Jack.
They got hot.
They got hot. They came out of nowhere.
Yet, at the All-Star break, technically, if the season ended at ended at the also break the phillies would be playing the nationals in the
wildcard i know it's a real mixed emotions type of thing jack where you out with the phillies right
now well it's so weird because like when you look at the team and you watch them every day you're
like man this team isn't very good and then and then you watch this you look at the standings and
they're like this team's not that bad like Oh, they're a playoff team. Like, what are we complaining about? Obviously, a lot of that had to do with early in the season and whatnot.
Where I'm at with this team is I think the offense is legit coming around,
and I think they've been playing.
I think they've been doing well offensively ever since they kind of talked about.
I know the curveball machine was the joke,
but they actually did talk about how they changed their philosophy.
Went after fastballs and all that stuff.
Crazy concept, hunting fastballs.
Who would have done that?
Hit the straight ball that comes at you.
Yeah, who would have thought?
So I feel good about where the offense is,
and Real Muto's batting like 400 in his last seven games,
just absolutely scorching hot.
Bryce Harper has been really, really solid for his last 15 games.
He's looking at OPS over 1,000.
So I feel good about where the offense is.
I think Kingery at the leadoff spot, we had called called for it but i think that's really made a difference i think he's just
the kind of spark plug a guy that can you know he'll either hit a home run like he did um to open
the game to open the game which was awesome um jacob degrom off of degrom no less i know which
is crazy and or he'll he'll get ahead get on first base and he'll make something happen i think he's
kind of sparked them a little bit.
Jay Bruce, I mean.
Is there enough good that we could say about Jay Bruce?
Jay Bruce is crazy.
He's the greatest Philly of all time, for Christ's sake.
He's not really.
His numbers are incredible, and he already has like 23 RBIs.
He's hit 10 homers as a Philly.
He's like fourth on the team in home runs.
It's crazy.
As a Philly.
So I feel good about what the offense is, and honestly, thank thank god because the offense is the one thing that's healthy right now
yes like they're they're the ones that are supposed to be carrying this yeah I was about to say
ultimately coming into the season we all thought if they had a chance to do anything it was because
the offense and not the pitching so right they need the offense to come around now on the on
the other hand not great Jack the pitching staff makes me want to stab myself with a spoon.
It's really bad, dude.
It's really bad.
I mean, we're talking, and we'll get to all of it, but the fact that it came out on Saturday
after the game that Jake Arrieta's bone spurs in his elbow and either has to pitch through
it or be done for the season, and my thought process is, I don't know whether I want him
to stay or go because he's so horrible, but they don't have anything better.
Like, where are we at, Jack?
I really didn't know how to react to that.
I saw that news in my first thought.
I was like, good, screw Jake.
He stinks.
I don't need to see him.
And then I'm like, wait.
Is it me, Cole Irvin's pitching?
What do we do?
What do we do?
That was after he said he's going to put a dent in Todd Frazier's skull.
He did say that.
He did say that.
It was a little aggressive.
He was just like, come on, Jake.
Relax.
A little over the line.
I mean, Todd Frazier is such a baby.
He's annoying.
I can't stand Todd Frazier.
I agree.
He sucks, but he thinks he's good.
And he's also a cleanup hitter for that team that night, I think, which is embarrassing.
They hit him cleanup a lot.
It's a really strange lineup.
I feel sorry that he stinks.
Another thing that was weird about the Mets is that Dom Smith has 14 RBI.
Dom Smith?
Well, he's batting like 320 or whatever it is it's unbelievable it's like how does he even happen
he's eight home runs in 14 rbs how does that even happen it's crazy it's impossible it's weird uh
so the area had a thing after he said he wants to put a dent in john frazier's skull which which
so i listened to the whole mets broadcast on the way home it wasn't a fun listen it was it was like
it was fun because i went they they were winning. You're talking about
the Sunday game Sunday
game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yesterday I drove home
from Vermont.
Yes.
And there is there
are so enraged by the
Jake area comments.
They're like he needs
to be suspended.
There's no doubt about
it.
People get suspended
for that.
He was put a dent
in his skull.
If he did put a dent
in his skull, he might
get suspended.
Also, they're they're
kind of roasting Frazier
at the same time because
they were like he's like he's like I've been hit byzier at the same time because they were like, he's like,
I've been hit by this team all the time.
And they're like, nah, it's only three times.
It's not that crazy.
And what was the change up?
Do you really think?
Well, that's the point.
It's like, that's the thing.
It's like, get as mad as you want,
but he clearly wasn't intending to hit you, man.
Like, that was not the point.
If he's going to hit you, he's going to hit you with a fastball.
It was a one-two change up.
Yeah, what are we talking about?
He had deepened the count.
He had beaten the count.
Like, it was so silly. I thought it was so silly the way fraser was so peak macho baseball
exactly what it was 98 all over again they don't forget anything like the baseball players for
whatever they don't forget a thing like the fact that todd fraser yeah i've been hit this many
times like i need to i'm pissed off by that it's like you've been hit only three times relax
but they don't forget uh but arietta yeah i was kind of same way i was like oh like cool but then i realized
there's no one left that's it like we were joking about trading arietta deadline well guess what if
you trade arietta deadline or whatever like do whatever with jake arietta you're not putting
us in there like you're putting cole irvin you're putting the rangers for us unless
like they need i i hope the move is to bring on damon jones like damon jones has a 0.83 era
in redding and i know he will throw hard and has a wicked slider that's all i know i will i will
take that a lot more than you can say he strikes a ton of guys to the 0.83 83 era at redding
obviously a different ball like the ball in redding and then going to the ball at lehigh
valley is a different story but like i just want someone that at least has some kind of upside because i know cole irvin doesn't and i know rangers waris doesn't like i
just and we know jared eickhoff doesn't and we know all the guys we've seen and we know aniel
de los santos doesn't he's a bullpen piece yes and needs to learn splitter like yesterday um but
yeah like damon jones just let's see what he got let's see what he has how could it be any worse
we're at the point where I'll try anything
when it comes to starting pitchers
in the Philadelphia Phillies right now.
Look, it looks like Arrieta will probably pitch through it.
It'll probably be the same Jake Arrieta we've seen.
Judging by Saturday.
He's got like a six-something ERA over his last 10 starts or whatever.
Great.
It's awesome, man.
He's so cooked.
You have the bone spurs.
He's so done.
He's just done. You have the bone spurs and you have the knee last year uh and remember how excited we
were at the knee we're like oh oh that was it he'll be better yeah he had the knee how could
you pitch with a knee like that could you ever do that come on i know no not the case he's just
cooked he's just cooked and he like watching him, I feel like in his head, he's like, how is this happening?
He looks like a guy.
He's like, why can't I throw as hard as I used to?
What's happening?
He's throwing as hard as he is.
Why does it move?
Why does it move like he used to?
Yeah, exactly.
It's the absolute problem there.
But with this pitching staff right now, like, Eflin's taking a step back.
Yeah, no question.
I want to get into Eflin a little bit because, like, it looks different than what was going on.
We're going to go through each guy but like it the staff but here's the thing is i think that
if they get one solid starter just just give me one so if you have two guys over the five day
road if you have nola guy you're like okay right because if you have a solid two with nola obviously
being back to nola nola looks great nola's back to being Nola. And then, listen, if you can bump down the Pavettas of the world
and let him be like your 4-5, everyone's melting down about Pavetta.
Pavetta's melting down about Pavetta, Jack.
He sure is.
He's not handling it great.
Did you hear his comments after the game?
No, what did he say?
He was like, I made two bad pitches.
No!
You know that in his head, the ball glancing off Swanson's hand
and that double play that would happen there,
that was it.
The moment that happened,
everything else was not on him.
Well, what was funny is
in that game too,
I think it was that inning
when everything melted down,
was he had what he thought was a strikeout
and he got the ball back
and stood on the mound,
behind the mound for like 10 seconds.
And I was like, well,
there it is.
And then it's a three on home run.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if you can have Pivetta, if you can have Eflin and Pivetta
bump down one more spot, make him lower on the rotation,
bring in like a solid two, I just, the bullpen's getting healthier.
The offense has turned a corner, I think.
So I don't think it's as bad.
I think this is the worst behind us.
Wow, some positivity from Fritz.
Listen, anytime you can take two or three from the Mets, I feel pretty good.
That's all they do is beat the Mets.
They don't beat anyone else. Remember when the Mets owned us?
Of course, for years. For the last five years.
Years. Like years of the Mets.
I know, but we're back.
We're back. No, I
really do think that. You sound positive.
You're way more positive Than I am
I look at this team
And I'm like
What's there to be excited
About right now
The offense
Yeah
I hope so man
The offense
I hope so
I don't know
I feel good about
Where they're at
As a team
And I think they're
One move away
From being
At least
In the wild card mix
See I feel like
There's so many holes
On this team
Right and bench bat
Well look
They're in the wild card mix Right now They are a wild card team Right now And I look at the other teams In the See, I feel like there's so many holes on this team. Right, and BenchBet. Well, look, they're in the wildcard mix right now.
They are a wildcard team right now.
And I look at the other teams in the NL, I'm like, I don't know.
I don't think any of them are that good. Fair. There's a lot
of holes on these teams. Like, the Cubs
are thinking about blowing it up. They're in first place in the NL Central.
I know. They're talking about, like, potentially trading
Hamels and stuff. What is happening right now? Well,
Theo.
How many times?
Yeah, the Brewers are a mess right now.
Which is weird.
Everyone in the NL West will fall off.
It will only be the Dodgers.
They're already starting to fall off.
The Diamondbacks, the Padres, they don't matter.
Right.
The Rockies?
Oh, I forgot about the Rockies.
So I think it's a five-team race for two spots.
I think it's the Nationals, the Phillies, the Rockies,
the Brewers or Cubs whoever falls back there the Cardinals
that's the teams
that I would say
and the Cardinals
are 500
but they're I think
talented enough
I don't believe
in the Pirates
I don't believe in
again the Diamondbacks
the Padres
I think it's a five teams
for two spots
are the Phillies
one of those five teams
maybe
and here's the question
is it worth it
so like
if they get to the deadline
well that's the
philosophical question
that's what it comes down to. Because even if
you beat whoever in the wildcard game, you're facing the
Dodgers in the five game series. You're losing. Is it worth
really investing a lot in
this team? Well, that's the point. It's a
balancing act. It's how much is it worth investing because
I think you and I both agree that
just basically, on a basic
level, making the playoffs is worth it.
That's a big deal for this franchise. And it can
get you jump-started and getting these guys this kind of experience. Getting all the playoffs is worth it. That's a big deal for this franchise. And it can get you jump-started and getting these guys
this kind of experience. Getting all the playoffs started.
Like, get the 07 to 08.
We talk about that all the time, but that mattered. Losing to the
Rockies in that series mattered.
Getting over that finish line, finally being
a playoff team did matter to that squad.
So, I do think it matters, but
you're not selling your top three prospects
to try and beat the Dodgers.
It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. Very unlikely
to happen. And it's baseball, but I think baseball
Right, that's why I said, that's why I changed it. Not going to happen.
Very unlikely to happen. But baseball has just changed so
much to where the teams are so, so
deep and so top heavy now
to where it's like,
like Ross Stripling would be our
second best starter. Easily.
He's their fill-in guy.
He's like, oh, Rich Hogan on the IL.
Bring in Ross Stripling.
And then if he gets hurt, bring in Julio Urias.
It's unbelievable.
Julio Urias should be the second best starter
in the Phillies right now.
Yeah, we would be super excited, too.
What are we talking about?
I know.
So, yeah.
So baseball's changing that aspect.
Yeah, you could say that.
I think.
I think just the top teams are so much cheaper
than the other teams.
But I think staying in it and going on a run and getting that wild card spot
and whatever happens, happens.
They can do both here.
We can accept that a lot of things have gone wrong for this team this year.
The injuries have hurt.
Offenses and consistencies.
It's Harper's first year, so we'll give him a little bit of a break,
even though I think he's starting to round into form now.
It's a balancing act between if you want to give up a little bit of a break, even though I think he's starting to round into form now. It's a balancing act between,
if you want to give up a Keele May type prospect for an Astruble, although hopefully,
they talked a lot about how the players last year
that were brought in weren't the best locker room,
the clubhouse guys, not that they're bad guys,
but this year they're really vetting the process.
Which is Jay Bruce is the opposite type of guy.
And Brad Miller.
Yeah, and Brad Miller too.
Look, Bamu Brad, the whole thing.
But Jay Bruce has talked a lot about that,
a lot about being someone who can come in
and kind of fill a leadership void,
fill a veteran presence type of void.
And I think he's been a great addition from that perspective.
Not even mentioning, obviously,
the best player in Philly's history.
Not even mentioning the 10 home runs.
Yeah, I'm just talking strictly off the field.
That's all I'm talking about.
He's only here for clubhouse purpose.
Yeah, that's all I needed.
We don't even care if he's... Veteran leadership guy. Yeah, a bunch just talking strictly off the field. That's all I'm talking about. He's only here for clubhouse purpose. Yeah, that's all I need. We don't even care if he is.
Veteran leadership guy.
Yeah, a bunch of veteran leadership guys.
So I just understand there's a lot of doom and gloom and whatever,
but I just think this team is starting to get better.
Obviously, the pitching staff is a freaking disaster,
but I think they're getting healthier.
I think the bullpen is getting healthier.
I think they're getting closer to.
Such positivity here.
Listen, man, when you hike a lot.
I'm loving this.
When you're drinking heady topper
and hiking in vermont better you don't even have a phone i don't have a phone right now your phone
got destroyed in a rainstorm that's why this is happening right now i'm so i'm so level-headed
because i haven't had my phone that i i did i drive in eight hours yesterday that should have
been a six-hour trip turned into an eight-hour trip because i'm driving through new york yes
oh am i driving crazy yeah a little bit crazy um but but but you drove through new york yeah to get home yeah why
i don't know it's how the gf gps said to go just check it out see what's going on i like it i want
to make sure the strongest signal for the phil's mets game that's good work right there look at you
think about that um good work yeah so like and speaking of vermont like i was so i was
up in vermont the last whatever four days or whatever um for you we get it and i listen i
think i deserve a few days oh yeah i'm very tired um me too always every second of every day but
when you're out there when you're hiking or whatnot through whatever jackie outdoorsman
listen people forget that i was a life scout what one below eagle scout
i think is that a real thing yeah a life scout well all right so there's eagle scout i had no
idea that life you know what eagle scout is yes i've heard of it yeah i've heard of it so i was
one below that i didn't finish it what how are we however many episodes we are in the house
podcast i never knew this. Yeah.
I'm a life scout.
So you're like a high level boy scout.
Yes.
A very high level boy scout.
Oh my God.
That is a revelation.
I had two years to finish my Eagle Scout project.
So if we get lost in the forest, you can like keep us alive and stuff?
Pretty good at it.
Like build a fire, do all that kind of stuff? I hiked 101 miles in New Mexico when I was in ninth grade.
This guy.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Jackie Outdoorsman.
Jackie Outdoorsman. I'm blown away by this. Yeah. No, it's a real thing. I had no idea. Now I'm in ninth grade. What? This guy? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, Jackie Outdoorsman. Jackie Outdoorsman.
I'm blown away by this.
Yeah, no, it's a real thing.
I had no idea.
Now I'm in horrible shape,
and hiking hurts,
but while you're out there hiking,
you have a lot of time to think.
I can see that.
I've got a lot of time to think about this,
because it's you.
And I feel pretty good.
I can tell.
I want a little violate.
I need a ruling from you.
Okay.
Is it wrong that, so every night we would go out and we'd sit by like the i'm gonna say it's wrong go ahead okay
well you're probably right we would go out and sit by the pool like around the tables around or
whatever and everyone's like watching the sunset over the mountaintops. Tell me you had the Phillies on your phone. On my laptop.
I had the Phillies on my laptop.
While everyone's trying to enjoy the sunset,
there's me clapping and getting excited about the Phillies.
I was wrong.
That is totally right.
That is very right.
Thank you.
Big fan.
I think we're probably two of the few people who would say that was right,
but all in support of that.
My wife would have literally killed me in that situation.
It's come down to this,
is that I really only care about the Phillies.
It's gotten to that point where it's- It's like uncomfortable.
Yeah.
It's like, this is all I care about.
This is all I think about.
I just think about the future of this team.
It's all I think about.
On the trail, I'm wondering what Jill's thinking about.
And I'm thinking to myself, what are you thinking about? You're definitely not thinking about the Phill the trail I'm wondering what Jill's thinking about and I'm thinking to myself what are you thinking about
you're definitely not
thinking about the Phillies
I'm only thinking about
I'm thinking about you
your life together
all the things going on
in her world
yeah
Phillies
I'm locked in
I love it
that's why we do this
maybe that's why
I'm positive today
very positive
yeah because I've
mapped it all out in my head
at least you didn't let it
take you the other way
you could have come in
incredibly negative
if that walk had not been as uplifting and
positive as it.
Yeah, no.
First of all, walk.
Life scout.
Please.
Hike.
Hike.
I was dying.
It was like we were hiking.
Not surprised.
We were hiking at the highest peak in Vermont.
Wow.
And we were three quarters of the way up and started dumping rain.
And we were like basically walking down waterfalls.
It was horrible.
Sounds horrible. Was that Mount Washington? Mount Rainier? It was Mount Mansfield. Mount Rainier is in Washington. and started dumping rain and we were like basically walking down waterfalls it was horrible sounds
horrible was that mount washington mount rainier it was mount mansfield mount rainier washington
or no mount washington is in bar harbor maine okay i don't know where any of these things are
i hiked some mountain in maine last year that was really horrible as well i kind of like mountain
you know what i do i don't hike mountains yeah well kind of
my thing okay so let's let's get back to the fills yeah why don't we talk some bills all right let's
uh let's dive through anything uh just quick thoughts from the weekend or the brave series
before we kind of go through some specific players anything else in a macro level that
stood out to you from either of those two well let me just say i'm playing hurt today because
i don't have my usual notes oh yeah no phone i have nothing to write i know so i feel like i'm lost you look jacked right now no no
pun intended ripped yeah no i'm excited i'm looking like i'm in shape excited don't show
me your mod stop it stop it i'm in shape jack just took me to the gun show there's nothing much there
um uh i want to talk about effflin because he's obviously
taken a pretty big step back
he looked awful
in that break
that was one of those games where they spotted him
four runs
and he was like eh
whatever
I think he's got to a point where he's rushing a little bit to the plate
so what made Eflin really good
his first two months of the season
was he was getting to his balance point,
and then he was really fully balanced and ready
and then delivering his pitches.
And now he's not getting to a full balance point.
He's kind of just turning and going.
And I think that's taken some of the zip off his pitches.
He's also getting – I just think teams have figured out Zach Eflin.
Oh, great. That's what we want to hear want to hear it wasn't that complicated of a plan i mean it was fastballs up and whatever um and now with his fastballs up instead of missing up and out of
the zone with his fastballs he's missing down and when he when he's bad yeah when you don't want to
miss down when you're trying to go up and you miss like down that ball's getting smoked barrels yeah
barrels for life.
And that's kind of what's happening to Eflin right now.
So I think his fastball, instead of missing up and away or up and out of the zone,
he's just missing down and he's getting smoked for it.
His fastball location is just way off.
There's a couple times in that Braves game, I went back and watched, where the Real Amido was set up on the outside corner
and it was just trending over the middle of the plate and getting smoked.
Also, I think for Eflin to really – think i think efflin's a really good pitcher i think he's
going to get better and i i don't i think right now it's kind of a blip in the efflin radar but
i would love for him to go and work with um kyle yeagers one of the the driveline guys so he was
he was brought in by the phillies to be a pitch designer and i just think that efflin he needs to
design a slider that can actually get
swings and misses because he's not getting any swings and misses on anything right now like his
the strikeouts have gone down in every single start last four starts and i just think that
teams are just have just started to barrel him up and when he's not when he's not having pinpoint
fastball control um or command like. His slider just looks so flat,
and he doesn't have anything else to counteract.
Even what makes Nola so special is when his fastball is off,
a little bit off, he still has a changeup,
still has a curveball to come back with.
When Eflin's fastball command and control is off,
he has nothing to combat that with.
He doesn't have a dominant slider that he can throw in any count
whenever he wants.
I think there's a path to him developing a really good slider. I think he needs to get uh with jaegers and and design a new slider what
does design a slider mean like you know how like so sometimes it's really just a grip change but
like so what they do what they do with driveline what they do with the phillies minor league system
and all over baseball is they have these rapsodo cameras where they can hook up and see the spin of your slider so or whatever pitch you want really they hook it up and you throw it into
a net and it'll track how much rpms it has the spin rate off of it so if you mess around with
one grip and it spins more and more they just try to emphasize that grip and so it's basically
it's designing messing around with grips and finding what works right and but they're they're actually able to track it rather than actually using technology to find out what
works yeah so like you'll use a rhapsody camera and if it's spinning like if if one slider grip
gets 20 2500 rpms and the next one gets 2700 rpms they'll they'll use that slider grip and
perfect that pitch kyle yeager is a strong name yeah it's a good well it's a good name what's
funny is that is that when i was coming up there was this thing called jaeger bands
which were all about like the they're like the first bands of resistance and yeah and i thought
they're related they're not related not yeah not at all no no so still a good name yeah no it's
really strong name and i just think that eflin i think the eflin's going to be a really good pitcher
um but he needs some kind of secondary pitch you can get him back into competitive counts and use that 95 mile an hour fastball and i think if he works on designing a
slider that can get swings and misses i think there's a path to him being a really really
solid three or four it is amazing when you watch other teams whether it be against phillies or
the package uh how many people throw hard now yeah it's because you watch the phillies you don't
notice it as much and then you watch
every other time.
Like that dude Bryce Wilson
who's not even that good
a pitcher.
Oh, I know.
Just pumping 97
and they're like boom, boom, boom.
Like nonstop.
Like where are our guys
who throw 97, 98?
Well, it's so funny
because we call Vinny Velasquez
Vinny Velo.
The guy throws 93.
He's not a Velasquez.
Yeah, exactly.
He's not even Bryce Wilson.
Dude, Tommy Hunter
throws harder than
Vince Velasquez.
That's what I'm saying.
Where are the hard-throwing guys?
It's so funny.
And the Bryce Wilson, that game was so frustrating because he was literally. Maleska. That's what I'm saying. Where are the hard-throwing guys? It's so funny. And the Bryce
Wilson, that game
was so frustrating
because he was
literally off-bats.
Just all fastballs.
And they're all
like 97, 98.
Boom, boom, boom,
boom.
It's like, why
can't they hit this?
What is happening
right now?
I know.
Listen, it's so
frustrating.
They need, they
have to be able to
find guys with VLO
and I think they're
starting to get there
with guys like Damon
Jones and some of
the draft picks.
We talked about the
last draft.
A little more
emphasis on it.
Like, oh my god. Obviously the Futures game is the best all-star event oh it's the best
it's not even close how how amazing the features game is better than the all-star game and then
you see these guys of these other teams and it's like everyone like matt manning and he wasn't very
good last night i'm still like no i'm only a quarter of the way through it so i'm working
away through the future so i'll get there okay okay i saw debbie garcia i mean all these guys it's just the talent is is overwhelming
it's crazy and overwhelming listen very happy booms there or bomb i think it's actually bomb
but i like bone better it's a bomber yeah bummer i like it so better than bomber it's way better
um but but like i was i'm happy the bones there, and he played well. But there's just so much crazy talent that the Phillies, I feel like,
are just missing out on.
So while I'm overall positive about the Phillies major league team
and how they're rounding the form, man, am I frustrated with the whole
organization top to bottom.
Lack of high-end talent.
That's for sure.
That is for sure.
It's so annoying.
Like Wander Franco leading off for the AL squad
it's like that dude
they just went
and found that kid
he's the best prospect
in baseball now
not even close
oh who
come on
the race
of course
right
why wouldn't it be the race
Chaim Bloom
go find that guy
I love Chaim Bloom
give me Chaim Bloom
is that how you say it
Chaim
Chaim Bloom
from here by the way
is he really
yeah
Philly guy
should make it that easy.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Come home, Chaim!
Klintak.
Come home!
We are monitoring them at Klintak department.
Oh, man.
We are a few weeks away from full-on assault.
Yeah.
Klintak has taken quite the nosedive in terms of public perception.
Yes.
From the offseason to now.
Well, when you've seen their pitching decisions they've made in the last year and a half,
or ever since the Arrieta signing.
It's hard to blame them.
I see where a lot of people are coming from.
Speaking of pitching decisions, Nick.
Nick?
Nick.
Not aware.
Who are we talking about?
Again, not great
two three run homers
are what did him in
but
he'll just settle
so he'll suck
and then he'll settle in
and he'll look lights out
and then he'll just have
a bad inning
and then the whole start
is lost
he's so close
to being
he is though
I know
that's what I'm saying
he like
like 85%
90% of his starts are great it's that 10 that ends up
making them awful it's it's really crazy it's uh it's great and he is he is your classic like
this guy's too good to give away because too much talent you see everything there but also like
holy crap are you so frustrating to follow and root for at the same time drives you
crazy and it's the it's the mental stuff it's just like dude come on stop just stop what you're
doing just be tougher just grow up yeah but he's 26 i don't know if he's ever i think this is
probably who he is it's the problem though he still needs to grow up yeah act like a man can't
do it i know he can't do it but this the thing is is that true jack fritz he's it's a lot
jack fritz that's why i love him so much but like he's he's so close to being good it's just it's
frustrating when he he allows the three runs which is fine like that's fine if it's your your four or
five guy and then it happens again and you see it happening coming from a mile away and like
that was his best that was for the first first five innings of that start or whatever
until it started blowing up
I was like
this looks like the guy
that we saw
when he came back
from the minor leagues
like he was aggressive
and pumping fastballs
and whatnot
but then it just all
reverted back
to classic pathetic
and it was
it was just like
it's so simple
it's just like
one thing goes wrong
and it just
it's like
triggers the whole thing
pulling a thread
and then it just all falls apart
I know
he's like Jeff George man
Jeff George yes not quite as talented not as quite but i mean this happens all the time i mean this happens all
the time with super talented pitchers that never able to figure it out um it's frustrating that
this is happening right in front of our eyes but listen you can't take him out of the rotation
because he's there the upside is there of him being really good um you just like to see the
consistency and unfortunately it's not there yeah yeah consistency, and unfortunately, it's not there.
Yeah, you could say that, Jack.
It is not there.
No, it's not.
All right, Mets series.
What stands out to you?
Obviously, they went 2-3.
That Arrieta start is just infuriating, man.
They should have won that game.
Yeah.
They should have won that game.
They should have been sweet.
Spotted him a 4-0 lead, too.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
It was off Syndergaard.
Yeah.
Fraud.
Fraud.
Syndergaard, I think Noah Syndergaard is the biggest waste of talent in baseball.
Wow.
That's a bold statement.
He's such a waste.
Like, he's 98 with a 91-mile-an-hour changeup.
I mean, he's got the best fastball in baseball, or at least the hardest average fastball in
the last year in all baseball.
Yeah, but he gets smoked.
Yeah?
Imagine Pavetta, but on steroids.
Literally and figuratively?
That's Noah Syndergaard.
I would be so infuriated
if I was a Mets fan with that dude.
It's like, man, you could be way better than the Negron.
He's way more talented than the Negron.
Just pure talent.
He's just more talented.
Negron's a thousand times better than he is.
Because I'm close. I can't believe they won the Negron start. I mean, it's a thousand times better than he is. A thousand times better. He's not even close.
I can't believe they won the DeGrom start.
I mean, it's DeGrom versus Velasquez, right?
I would have bet my life they weren't going to win that.
I mean, poor Zoe.
She can't go to college now, right?
Because you lost all of your money.
You put her college fund on the Mets that night.
On DeGrom, yeah.
It's a shame.
It's a real shame.
Impressive late in the game.
Yeah, they win it in the ninth.
I mean, a five- run ninth or whatever real needle doubled
all Jay Bruce does is get big
hits this guy Bryce Harper
big double yeah I just
I really
now that Bryce is kind of settled in and it's
not like the striking out all the time
I just love watching that guy play and I know people are so frustrated
with some of the base running stuff I'll
take over aggressive instead of under.
I will too.
He gets thrown out a lot though.
He does.
It's almost unbelievable.
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
But I do think someone that does,
like if he gets on second base yesterday on the Cano play,
I think that kind of sets the tone for the rest of the game of like,
that's our superstar doing that.
I think it kind of sets the tone for the entire team.
I like it more than not.
If I have to choose aggressive and get thrown out more not aggressive get thrown out
less i'll take the aggressiveness it is shocking how much it's it's hard to it's like oh well
rice got thrown out again yeah it's almost like it's almost like he has absolutely no base running
instincts like it's is he so used to only hitting dingers i think it's just he goes like it doesn't
matter whether he should or he shouldn't he's running i think he's so to only hitting dingers growing up? I think it's just he goes. It doesn't matter whether he should or he shouldn't.
He's running.
I think he's so used to hitting dingers as a kid
that he's like, what is this base running stuff?
That's weird.
I've never had to do this before.
I've never had to do this before.
I just trot.
That's what I do.
I just have dominated my entire life.
He does hustle.
He does hustle.
And he's been great defensively, too.
We haven't talked about it a lot,
but I feel like every night he's making plays out there defensively. he's been a really good right fielder for them and you know what
we haven't talked about in a while cesar's defense like cesar's fine it's he's been fine he's been
that was just one of those weird like three week blips where all of a sudden a guy forgets what
he's doing it was crazy um like that maybe i'm maybe i'm more positive on the team because i
think everything outside of the starting staff,
I think, is all coming together.
Even the defense.
Kingery's played a really good center field.
Yes.
Really good.
Shockingly good.
Instincts.
Knows where to be. Talk about a guy that's just an athlete.
Talk about a guy who we would be lost without this season.
Oh, my God.
We were not counting on Scott Kingery for anything this year.
Jay Bruce has been fine in left field.
Mikey can get really good on balls
right at him.
Hey,
Mikey,
I mean,
he makes those plays.
I'll give it to him.
Like,
he does,
as long as he doesn't have to go
side to side,
he'll make the play.
No,
a tractor trailer can get thrown.
Yes.
But hey,
he makes some nice plays.
Yeah,
when they're right at him,
he nails it, man.
Yeah,
he's got an arm.
He can throw.
Yeah,
so.
And Jay Bruce has been a much better defensive left fielder than,
and not good.
We'll still remember that Braves game.
Don't get me wrong.
But he has been much better than I expected.
He's competent, it feels like, in left field.
Yeah, he's barely even played left field most of his life.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I forgot about that.
That's a good part of it.
So, yeah, I mean, it's really nice having Tommy Hunter back.
I mean, thank God. He would have thunk it. I know, but I mean, it's really nice having Tommy Hunter back. I mean, thank God.
Who'd have thunk it?
I know, but he looks better than last year, though.
He does.
At least in the four innings he's pitched or whatever.
He's been really good.
Yeah.
Like, legit.
Like, striking guys out.
Like, stuff.
Got stuff going.
Yeah, I mean, if you have Morgan, Hunter, Neres, that's solid.
It's something.
It's solid.
And then if Robertson, supposedly, he's throwing live Thursday. Okay. So if he throws live Thursday and it's fine. It's something. It's solid. And then if you get, if Robertson supposedly he's throwing, he's throwing live Thursday.
Okay.
So if he throws live Thursday and it's fine,
I'll take it.
So you're at the point where you're just taking whatever you can get.
I'll take whatever I can get.
Dude,
how many more times I've seen Edgar Garcia's pitch in the seventh inning,
JD Hammer in the eighth inning.
This is my go-to high leverage guys.
I don't need that anymore.
I know,
but it's all,
it's all getting there.
So, all right.
So to sum up, you feel really good about where the offense is and is heading.
Yeah.
You feel good somehow about the bullpen coming together.
I feel good about the future of the bullpen.
I don't feel good about the current bullpen.
Okay, fair.
And then the starting pitching is the issue.
All right, so let's get into the whole trade deadline thing coming up
because that's a big talking point right now, as we know.
What should they do?
How should they approach this?
And look, I think the first seven games back here,
three against the Nats, four against the Dodgers,
will play a role.
Oh my God, yeah.
It has to.
If they go two and five in those games,
you're not breaking the bank to go out and get
guys, nor should you.
It's going to be hard for
Middleton to swallow. He spent
a lot of money this offseason, last offseason
to bring in guys, but
if you go 2-7 and you're fighting
for a second wildcard spot to hopefully
win and play the Dodgers in a five-game series,
that's just dumb. It's malpractice
to go all-in. It's very dumb. But, I mean, owners... They probably shouldn't go all-in-game series, that's just dumb. It's malpractice to go all-in. Yeah, it's very dumb.
But, I mean, owners—
I mean, they probably shouldn't go all-in no matter what,
where they're at.
No, they shouldn't go all-in no matter what.
And here's the thing is, even if they sell,
what do they really have to sell?
Well, yeah, we talked about that.
I mean, like, Jay Bruce, and why would you sell him?
He's got no money on the contract the Phillies are paying.
It's almost like there's not a ton of upside
to what you're going to get for him.
Cesar, maybe.
I mean...
Just let Kingery play second base and whatever.
Yeah, but they don't have guys to sell.
This is not a team built with pieces
that you can just cut off.
I mean, Romulo, if you really wanted to sell,
you'd probably trade Romulo.
The RealMuto thing, I think, is super interesting.
So I thought a lot about the RealMuto trade on my hikes.
And if I can get, if I can, I think there's a path to a JT Real Muto for Kyle Sucker trade.
And I think the Astros would do it because I think they probably wouldn't do it in the offseason.
They do it to go for the World Series.
To go for the World Series.
Like, dude, going from Robbins and Torino, who I think is fine.
Yeah, to Real Muto, it's a massive upgrade.
Massive.
And they don't really need Kyle Sucker?
No, they just brought up Jordan Donald friggin' Alvarez.
They don't need anybody.
It's unbelievable.
And he's going to be the Josh Raddick replacement if they do keep him.
But I just think that...
Kyle Tucker's a good hitter.
Kyle Tucker's a really good hitter.
He's a good hitter.
So I almost...
If that's possible, and they go two and five...
Can you imagine?
But here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
A team would have a year and a half left of Romito.
The Phillies have not signed to an extension yet.
And truth is, he's going to be a 30-year-old catcher.
It's a very fair point, especially from at least what we've seen from him this year.
The vast majority of his value comes from playing catcher.
Yeah.
Well, he's the best defensive catcher in baseball.
Yeah.
Calling a game all that stuff, but offensively, he hasn't even been close to the best offensive catcher
in baseball this year
right
much less an offensive
player at other positions
where if you're talking
about 31 32 33
long-term deal
what position is he
playing
right I mean you can't
put him at first
because you have
Hoskins at first
or if you want to put
Bryce at first base
eventually like whatever
DH comes in actually
and look JT Romero
is not a good enough
hitter to DH
do you want your
DH Hoskins
and play first base I guess do you want your DH? DH Hoskins.
I haven't played first base, I guess.
Do you want your DH?
Well, actually, Hoskins is a pretty brutal first base.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying if in that situation, you could move Romero to first and sure.
But then you're losing all the value in Romero.
And you're going to have to pay him now as a catcher for all those years.
You're talking like, what, mid-20s a year or something like that.
A million dollars.
It's not going to be a cheap contract. 20 plus million dollars a year i think three i feel like three for 60
would get close sure i think that's fair that's the right five years at least yeah five years
from now um because you have this year next year and then three on top of that that'll pay until
he's 30 you probably have to bump him in the years now too yeah so if you if you i don't want to give away jt ramito because i think you want to
you want to compete next year i'm not saying i want them to trade jt ramito but i think it's
the smart thing to do if they fall out of it and i like catcher is a position that like it's nice
it's like a luxury position like it's not something you absolutely need um and obviously jt
ramito is definitely a luxury but if you can get a guy like kyle sucker or if you can get alex verdugo like from the alex verdugo i don't know why you
could get him though he's such a big piece of what they're doing yeah but if if and they like
will smith long term like not for right now but they believe in that guy if there's if there's
a pact with alex verdugo i would bring me alex verdugo please yes i'd rather have kyle sucker
but okay um but i just think that i'm very
different players verdugo and yeah tiger i wouldn't hate the idea of seeing what you can get out of a
jtrl meet and trade i don't want to give him away because i do think he's a really good catcher and
i think you want to compete next year yes and if you don't have him then it's like debbie gruyan
and andrew knapp as your battery oh stop what are you trying to do to me i don't know
don't do that but i i don't hate the idea of seeing if you can get a legit prospect for the future.
Well, it has to be a Kyle Tucker type prospect.
It has to be a no doubt about it.
This guy is going to come up and hit.
Kyle Tucker could hit right now.
If the Astros had a spot for Kyle Tucker, he'd be hitting in the major leagues.
Correct.
So I would like to see that.
And hey, hey, Matt, if you decide to move jt
romito enough with the casting the wide net thing and bring us a stud like that was so frustrating
with like the i know clemsack wasn't here but the hamels thing it was like instead of just going for
the good player or for the yeah instead of getting nomar mazara who oh wow turns out he's a really
good player he'd be nice to have on your. They went for a crop of players rather than one actually really good player.
So if you do...
That trade in hindsight looks so horrendous
when you really play it out now.
Yeah, it's a horrible trade.
The best players with the Marlins.
Yes, and the other best are Nick Williams
and Jared Eikhoff.
How about it, man?
Yeah.
How about it?
And the one who's in Korea right now.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Matt Harrison, what happened to him yeah well whatever what can you do so alec asher but other than that like do you move naris they
could they could sell naris if they want look and this is all very very circ or you know uh
hypothetical in the sense that i don't think i think the ph Phillies would have to really be out of it to sell.
I think that what you alluded to before, that John
Middleton didn't go out and do all this in the offseason
for his team to sell off parts
at the trade deadline. I think they really need
to start to break two and
eight or something. They need to be
four plus
games out of the second wild card, I think
for them to sell. Yes, probably.
Which is, I can't believe we're sell. Yes, probably. And I think it's unlikely that app.
I think ultimately the most likely scenario
come July 31st is what we saw last season.
It's these kind of filler,
you know, Band-Aid type moves.
Or maybe it's Matthew Boyd
and you're looking to the future too,
or those types of moves where you're getting,
and I don't think it will be,
I'm just saying maybe it's, all right, we're going to get a guy too, or those types of moves where you're getting. And I don't think it will be. I'm just saying maybe it's all right.
We're going to get a guy we think can help us, you know, make a fun little run this year.
But then next year when we're really going for it will be a main piece of that team.
It has to be someone who's here for more than a year.
Minor.
Yeah.
Minor or that type of deal.
If they make a major move, if they make a Texas Rangers are game and a half out.
Yeah, but they're going to.
I agree.
Likely.
But they're a game and a half out. They're but they're going to sell. I agree, likely, but they're a game and a half out.
They're in it.
They just are.
Yeah.
I know.
They're best players.
They're best players.
I'm with you.
Look, I'm with you.
I wouldn't be in it on the Rangers, but they're in it right now.
It's tough.
It's rare that you see teams, even if they know better,
that when they are that close
and in it, that will just say, nah, we're selling because this is not our year.
It's rare.
It's really rare.
Yeah.
I want to see Klintzak get creative.
I want to see something that's interesting, an interesting move that has theoretical upside
in it.
Every Klintzak move, for the most part, outside of Brad Miller and maybe Jay Bruce, most of
Jay Bruce is pretty obvious
he fills the left handed
bat need and whatever
and that was such a
sweetheart deal
that it's like
we'll pay all of it
like who's not gonna
make that deal
yeah I wanna see
Klintac you know
make a not obvious move
to help this team
I just wanna see
I wanna see something
from Matt Klintac
some ingenuity
yeah
from Matt Klintac
anyone can pay
$330 million for Bryce Harper
true
anyone can trade
their top prospect
for JT Romito.
I want to see him get creative
and get smart and
make a move that's like, wow,
look at Klintak, that you can
feed off the trolls with.
Hey, do you see this move Klintak made?
Look, again,
I agree with you, it was obvious,
but the Jay Bruce trade was a great trade.
The Gene Ziegler trade was a great trade.
A very good trade.
Maybe a good trade.
Well, yeah.
I mean, like, look, Santana being an all-star is, you know,
it's been a clean up in the all-star game.
Have you seen JP Crawford?
He's been good.
He's been solid.
Yeah.
It's an okay trade.
You're starting to go the other way.
I still think it was a good trade.
It was a good trade.
If JP Crawford turns into a superstar.
Which he won't. I don't think he will either. I think he'll be a good trade. It was a good trade. If JP Crawford turns into a superstar. Which he won't.
I don't think he will either.
I think he'll be a good player.
Fine player.
You're, you're.
It was an okay trade.
So it is.
Look again.
It is crazy.
I think that's really the craziest thing for me right now as we sit the all-star break
is how we went from King Klentak to is Klentak the guy
in a half a season?
I think he's made obvious moves
since he's been a GM.
And he's given out a lot of money
to guys who may not be worth that kind of money.
Well, some definitely are not.
Jake Arrieta is certainly not worth it.
The idea that he's on the books again next year
is just a killer, man.
He should just retire.
Please.
Can we start a retire campaign?
They're timing fun.
Give us our money back,
Jake.
No,
it's not going to happen.
No,
it's too good.
No,
he'll go pitch with bone spurs,
whatever he's going to do.
It's again,
and I,
I'm not going to rip him for that.
Like I do.
I appreciate that.
He's trying like that.
He wants to go pitch with an issue.
Like,
it's not like he's a,
it's,
it'd be if, if this were the last year year of his deal if this were a walk year and um i don't know if he
would do that um you know i mean i'm i'm uh excuse me i think he would do that the idea of going out
to pitch with the bone spurs and pitch through it in not a walk year is commendable in a way.
I just hate Jake Arrieta.
I'm so done with this guy.
I got nothing good to say about him.
I can't even try and say, like, he's tough, man.
He's going out and giving us innings.
I hate him.
Not even an innings eater at this point. No, well, he is.
He's just brutal.
I don't even like the way he stands.
Like, I hate the way he stands.
His ass in the air, does the arm thing. I hate it. Everything he does. I can't even like the way he stands. Like, I hate the way he stands. His ass in the air, does the arm thing.
I hate it.
Everything he does.
I can't stand the guy, Jack.
Wow.
This is sad.
I know.
He's going to put a dent in my skull if he hears about this.
I got to be careful.
The Mets broadcast will be very handy.
He's apparently a psycho who's going on and denting people's skulls.
What can you do?
I don't know.
I don't know.
All right.
What else do I have on my list here?
I don't think I think we got through.
Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, Dooble.
See you, buddy.
Yeah.
Peace.
Yeah, I'm good.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Don't need to see him anymore.
Fella.
Yeah.
Never again.
85 games.
It is pretty interesting that Major League Baseball is finally starting to slam down.
Are you kidding me?
Addison Russell got 40 games.
It should have been a year.
Yeah, Addison Russell is disgusting.
He should have got way more than 40 games.
Of course he should have.
And at least it's about time Major League Baseball figured it out.
Agreed.
Also, there's no downside to it.
No.
Exactly.
Just send them.
It's not that big of a deal.
Everyone's going to applaud it.
We're all good with it.
I'm all good.
I don't want to see a double anymore.
And you never will. No. They'll flip in this offseason or whatever or whatever all right so we had that discussion in the midday show today i who's trading for a
duper rare like the pirates that was such a confident answer pirates you think so yeah
they they can't take on they have no they they need good players for cheap contracts yes and
oduble is that he He's an okay player.
Okay player on a cheap contract.
Yes.
On a good contract.
Yes.
Look,
the Phillies have to eat all 17 million,
I would assume,
of it to get any,
I mean,
they'll give them away is the point.
You're either eating the 17 million
and getting like a B-level prospect back
or you're eating none of it
and he's free.
Just take him.
Yeah.
Like,
so either way.
And again,
I think even if you do eat double contract,
I just don't know who's banging down your door for a doable,
like no one,
no one,
but maybe the pirates,
the pirates,
Neil Huntington calling him up.
Yeah,
I could see that.
I I'm good.
I don't,
I don't want to see him anymore.
I'm just done with a doable.
Just done.
All right.
That's all I got my notes.
What else you got?
Um,
listen,
there's a prospect in triple a that has hidden 25 straight games. Ooh, the Phillies I got in my notes. What else you got? Listen, there's a prospect in AAA that has hidden 25 straight games
that the Phillies should definitely call up.
Ever heard of him?
His name is Nick Williams.
Why haven't they given this guy a shot yet?
Left-handed pop off the bench.
25 straight games is serious.
He set the Lehigh Valley record.
Did he?
Yeah.
How about that?
Bring him back. Confirm. Nick Williams, quad. Did he? Yeah. How about that? Yeah. Bring him back.
Confirm. Nick Williams, quad A player.
We found out. It's good to know.
I do. I am very interested to see what they get for him in a trade.
He does. I know you're...
He's been banging the drum for the Nick Williams
trade. Because I think they can... And forever
I have said they're getting nothing
in a Nick Williams trade. They will.
What do you think?
Give me a hard-throwing bullpen piece.
You think they'd get that from Nick Williams?
A guy who struggled his whole life.
I want them to trade Nick Williams for a guy that has been
horrible his whole life,
but is a flyer. Like Austin Adams.
Like Austin Adams. I would trade him
right now for Austin Adams. I know you would.
I would too. I'd trade him for Austin. He's going to get traded for something. I'd trade him for now for Austin Adams. I know you would. I would too. For a second.
I'd trade him for Austin.
He's going to get traded for something. I'd trade him for some dude named Austin who doesn't play baseball.
Some teams are going to take a shot on him.
I'm telling you some teams are going to take a shot on him.
He has trade value.
Okay.
You heard it here first.
I did.
Mark it down.
Okay.
He's got trade value.
What else?
Anything else in the mail?
I know you don't have the normal mail take bag today
because you got the uh oh phone issue oh is your phone still in rice by the way no i took the apple
store today it's completely fried i gotta buy a new one oh no really a lot of fun oh nobody
so can you get anything off of it or anything no it's all backed up you back it up okay like
yeah a little while ago i backed it okay good oh that was almost a real sad sad story jack yeah how you doing without the phone you getting by
you okay i mean i have i messaged on my computer i'm it's it's a little frustrating though like
i'm thinking about you yeah thank you um and you're in our prayers my thought before final
thoughts is that i kind of wonder if Chris Young is fostering
a non-aggressive philosophy with this pitching staff.
So I was thinking about this when I was watching every starter, this last little bit here.
They're so not aggressive and they try to be cute on, I i feel like in any count like they'll get to it
and i think it's smart pitching in a way like pitching backwards and whatnot but i think it
almost comes too much like too much trying to pitch backwards where they get into a 2-1 count
and they'll throw like an off-speed pitch and they'll they don't none of these guys have
unbelievable off-speed unless outside of aranola um and pivetta when he feels like it um that they
can get back into counts with like a 2-1
and they feel good about what they can throw for a strike or whatnot.
And then all of a sudden it becomes like a 3-1 count.
And I wonder if Chris Young has fostered this mentality
of spinning the ball as often as possible
to where it's almost taken away their aggressiveness with their fastballs.
And I wonder, I have a problem with the mentality of
let's just nibble around the zone
rather than attacking the zone.
I agree with you.
And really trying.
Krantz last year was good at this.
And look at the brave starters this year.
I was just about to say,
it seems like he's doing a good job down in Atlanta.
Right.
I'm very worried that Phillies may have picked the wrong guy.
May have picked the wrong guy.
Phillies might have picked the wrong guy.
And everything I've heard about Chris Young,
it's like he's so,
like he's almost all just looking at the hot zones
and the charts
and he's not actually watching these guys.
He's seeing the things that have happened
and they're looking at the charts or whatnot.
So I'm a little worried that he's fostered this mentality
of let's nibble and let's be cute
and maybe he has the right philosophy
but the wrong picturesers for it.
I don't want to crush Chris Young too bad
because of what he's working with.
He's working with a lot of quad A guys
and Edgar Garcia and J.D. Hammer
and Pavetta, Eflin,
Velasquez, all that.
He's worked with not great talent
but I do wonder if
he's fostered this mentality of
non-aggressive,
let's be cute, and try to trick guys into getting out.
That's not great.
No.
Yeah.
Which is a thought that I had.
Well, let's hope it's wrong.
I hope it's wrong, too.
Yeah, me too.
Big time.
All right.
Final thought, Frenzy.
My final thought is this.
And I'm going to play, is this a good play or not?
Ooh.
I like this game.
271 average
347 OBP
344 WOBA
112 weighted runs created plus
and a slugging percentage
of 473.
Is that a good player?
I would say it's like an average.
It's a good player.
It's better than average but it's not like a good player
So
It's not a player at all
That
Is
The Phillies offense
From
June 23rd to now
Look at what you did there
That's a good offense
That's a good
Yeah
As a full offense
It's really good
Right I know
I tricked you with the player thing
You definitely tricked
Because that's a whole different story For the offensive numbers right they have they have the
fourth most home runs in baseball during that span from from from june from june 23rd to now
and i would say this is around the time when they started focusing more and more on fastballs
they have the fourth most home runs in baseball they have the um they have the
ninth highest average in baseball red sox are betting 325 during that
span which is absolutely crazy but they have three four like i think those numbers those
numbers are that of a top eight ish offense and we've seen it for now about two weeks it's about
15 games i think it's a start of something positive and bryce harper and jt romito are
leading that job i I like this.
Yeah, you're welcome. Jack, look at you
putting us in a good mood for the rest of the day.
I love it. I tried to.
I will use my final thought to thank everyone
for listening to the Lost Bryce Harper
podcast and still showing back
up to this one.
We'll see. It means a lot
to us. If you're there, if you're not,
well, that hurts. Yeah, it hurts a lot. Not cool, it's not out yet. It means a lot to us. If you're there. If you're not, well, that hurts.
Yeah, it hurts a lot.
Not cool.
Not cool.
We apologized.
All right.
Rate and review the podcast.
That's how the Lost Price Partner Pod happened.
And I'm sure Jack and I, by the time we get close to 1,000, we'll figure out something
cool to do, right?
Yeah.
We already did High Hopes Night at the Ballpark, so we'll figure out something next.
And you also know that whatever promises we make, we are clearly willing to negotiate,
as we originally said, $1,000 and change it to $500.
Listen, we are negotiable.
We're easy.
Yeah.
We're easy.
All right.
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Something.
Not games that have happened, but we'll figure it out.
JT Romito's all-star appearance.
Yes.
The amazing JT Romito catching the ninth inning experience.
It's going to be great.
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