High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - Do You Ever Just Think About Matt Moore Late at Night?

Episode Date: February 12, 2021

James Seltzer and Jack Fritz break down the recent moves the Phillies have made. The guys also discuss what's next for the team, how they currently stack up against the rest of the NL East, and more. ... To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:41 Hot Cloud Storage on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the high hopes podcast. It's a bunch of baseball nerds talking about the Phillies on radio.com and sports radio, 94 WIP. Another edition of the I Am's Podcast. Jack, I don't know about you, but I'm starting to feel it, man. Football's over.
Starting point is 00:01:14 It's baseball time. I'm feeling it, buddy. Well, for me, it's baseball season 365. That's very true. You focus on nothing else at all times. I know. I know. But I'm with you, man.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Honestly, I saw the tweet yesterday, the trucks getting in, and they reported clear water, and all of a sudden I felt warm as it was snowing out, and I was starting to get giddy a little bit. I just realized yesterday, I mean, we're going to have a spring training game on February 27th. Like, it's like here. And I can't wait to overreact to every single little spring training thing. I mean, there's traditions unlike any other.
Starting point is 00:01:54 You know, Masters are one of them. But overreacting to spring training for me is my favorite tradition. And I, for one, cannot wait for it, buddy. So we're almost there. How many spring training games before I get it? Don't let the Philz get hot. It's tough. It's tough for me to say that during spring training, but I can say this, James.
Starting point is 00:02:17 It's not going to take much for me to talk myself back into Vince Velasquez. Jack, that is literally the least shocking thing you could have said to me yep um all right i want to get into kind of where they stand and and our excitement for the season but let's quickly uh talk about some of the moves like they made some moves yeah i talk it felt like there were like a couple days there was like oh another guy oh another guy um none were none none were emergency pod worthy yeah there we would have recorded before if we needed to do a chase anderson pod uh but let's dive in i think let's start with chase anderson i think i you know i'm putting words in your mouth but i think it's fair to say i think of
Starting point is 00:02:55 all these kind of minor back of the the roster type signings i think both of us were both like really four million for Chase Anderson? This one I just, I know he's an innings eater. I know he's a guy. This one I just, I didn't get that. I've enjoyed what they've been doing. I didn't get the Chase Anderson move that much. Yeah, yeah. Me either.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And I get it from the standpoint, if you want a guy that'll go out there and eat a ton of innings for you. But whenever I think of that term innings eater, I don't know why. I always just think of Aaron Horang. That's a great one. I mean, both physically and pitching-wise, he looks like he would be an innings eater if innings were a food.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Looks like an eater. That's for sure, Jack. Yes. That's where you're going. But if I was going for an innings eater that also looked like an eater, I'd be going for a Lance Lynn type, but whatever. Yes. Lance Lynn, I think, is more than an innings eater. I look like an eater i'd be going for like a lance lynn type but whatever yes lance lynn i think is more than anything i know he is i know he is but i like my innings eater to be matched up with an actual eater and i feel like lance lynn's an eater but i
Starting point is 00:03:53 uh chase anderson a famous non-eater which is the problem yes he's a vegan is he well i'm just making that up i was gonna say i didn't i didn't know i didn't have that chase anderson fun fact at my disposal like it's a deep cut right there chase anderson i uh i just don't think chase anderson's good like i i for me if i'm spending four million dollars at least give me someone with upside i know there's not many great upside arms left like you're kind of at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to that um but you know and i tweeted this and people got so worked up about the seven million dollars thing it's not really the point but i would rather have one guy that i believe in for like seven to ten million versus two guys like matt moore and chase anderson for a combined seven million who i don't know what
Starting point is 00:04:40 i'm getting out of them like chase anderson was legitimately brutal last year but but did it but here's the one thing that i can kind of see where the affiliates are coming from because i like to try to figure out why they did things rather than just be like blah bad so i try to figure out why they didn't find much but uh what i did find was you know he did strike out a career high last year like percentage wise i mean's striking out 24% of his batters. I guess when you factor in pitching in Toronto, even though they were pitching in Buffalo last year. Buffalo last year, if you were a betting man,
Starting point is 00:05:14 just take the over every game they played at that little stadium. It's a AAA park. It's a minor league. If you look at Chase Anderson's underlying numbers, they're not bad. If you look at Chase Anderson's underlying numbers, they're not bad. Now, if you look at the ERA, obviously bad. But I think the Phillies are betting on him to kind of come back to form a little bit and pitch around a 4-4-5 ERA.
Starting point is 00:05:37 If you get that out of Chase Anderson, you take it every day of the week. Yeah, I guess so. And look, I think you can get that out of Chase Anderson. Yeah, I guess so And look, I think you can get that out of Chase Anderson I mean, prior to last year's 7-22 ERA 4-2, 3-9, 2-7-4, obviously 2017 A A banner, you're a lot of luck involved in that But yeah, look, I get it
Starting point is 00:05:56 And again, I do think I'm not one of those people who just completely dismisses The idea of an innings eater having value Like, it's not exciting or whatever, but it's a long season. You know, it's 162, especially coming off a weird year, a 60 game season. Players not in the best of shape potentially, or certainly not as normal as it normally is. I could see the idea of loading up on guys who can give you innings. Like, I don't, I don't hate it from that perspective.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I just, to your point, like I would have rather thrown a few extra in there and gone for a taiwan walker or gone for someone who's got real true upside someone who's not just like like again to your point we're talking like oh if they can get a four or five era out of chase anderson that's a win it's like come on like Let's shoot higher. Let's shoot higher. Or even 10.5 million for Gary Richards. Absolutely. Again, Paxton's still out there. They're guys.
Starting point is 00:06:54 They're guys out there that you could take a real shot on for maybe a little bit more money. Look, Chase Anderson's fine. He's that guy who you pick up in your fantasy league. He gives you six innings, one one run four strikeouts you're like okay he's a streamer deal with that and then the next you're like i'll keep him and then the next start he gives you six innings four runs six strikeouts you're like okay this will
Starting point is 00:07:16 work and then the next one's like four innings seven runs you know it's just he's fine like you'll have some bad starts have some okay starts like it. It's fine. I don't think it's a waste of four million, but it was just uninspiring. It was an uninspiring sign, especially for a team that is at least purportedly, you know, claiming to be tight up against that cap and seemingly not going to go over that cap. And who knows? We'll see, especially as we've gone back and forth on this. But I don't know. It just felt like there were better ways to spend the $4 million, personally, in my mind. Yeah, I totally agree. And it comes down to this for me. It's like innings easers are fine, but you're not – Chase Anderson's not putting you over the top. I mean, if you can get James Paxton, Taewon Walker, Garrett Richards types,
Starting point is 00:08:01 spend that little bit more money, you have a chance of getting a top three pitcher in your rotation when they're healthy and going. And yes, the big risk there is the health. But I want to take a shot on that level of upside. And to just sign a guy because he's going to take down a ton of innings doesn't do anything for me. I understand it can get you through a season and these guys get banged up
Starting point is 00:08:24 and all that stuff. I understand it. But it's a season and these guys get banged up and all that stuff. I understand it. But it's just not putting me over the top. It's getting through a season versus trying to maximize your upside. Yeah, I think that's a perfect way to put it. Before we get to some of the other signings and stuff, what do you the chase anderson signing bringing vinnie back matt moore and we'll get into matt moore because i do love your theory that we've talked about a little bit but the idea of turning him into a weapon out of the bullpen i think literally couldn't make more sense to me than anything else like if they did that i'd be like
Starting point is 00:08:57 oh that that makes sense i get it like i understand what you're doing here but let's assume as they've seemingly told us that Matt Moore is a starter do you think the Chase Anderson the Matt Moore bringing Vinny back do you think Spencer Howard maybe not going to be a part of the rotation to start do you think there's maybe they're going to play it a little slower with him than we thought I do I think they're going to kind of slow play it a little bit I think they're worried about that shoulder um and rightfully so I mean the guy hasn't pitched over 100 innings in any level yet.
Starting point is 00:09:27 This will be the first time, hopefully, that he's ready for that. I would like them to not treat him totally with kid gloves, but I also think that there's underrating Spencer Howard. He's starting to fall in all these prospect rankings, which always crack me up. For me, Spencer Howard last year looked like a rookie. He just
Starting point is 00:09:43 looked like a rookie starter. He wasn't perfect. He had some flashes. He lost some velo. I mean, I attribute a lot to his struggles last year to losing 10 pounds from earlier in the year and not being totally ready to go and losing that leg strength and all of that. So I actually think they're sleeping a little bit on Spencer Howard, but I do think they're going to limit his innings pretty good because, you know, I think they're worried about that shoulder, and I think they want to have him, you know, maybe for the stretch around, or, you know, maybe they want to use him out of the
Starting point is 00:10:12 bullpen, and they want to have him be like that multi-inning shutdown guy, and sure, that's not the highest outcome for Spencer Howard that you want, but we've seen plenty of starters that have started in the bullpen and then gotten back into the rotation. And if you want to limit his innings, you might as well make them high upside innings, right? I mean, you know, having Spencer Howard ready to go in the 7th, 8th, maybe even 9th with hopefully 98 out of the bullpen is better than most options. So when we're clamoring for them to keep signing guys
Starting point is 00:10:40 and to make that bullpen better, and I think they have made the bullpen better, I wonder if Spencer Howard is in their plans in the bullpen to where they can limit his innings but also maximize his potential versus four or five inning starts and maybe skipping him every once in a while to try to limit wear and tear on the elbow. I don't know. I don't know. So I do think that a lot of this comes down to Spencer Howard,
Starting point is 00:11:03 and I think that's probably the right way to go at this point. Does it feel, and we'll get into the other signings, but does it feel philosophically as I'm listening to you talk about this, that this team wants to compete this year, but really feels like 2022, 2023 is there when they're really going to go for it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:24 Cause it feels like they're putting together a team that's going to be competitive, that has a chance to make the playoffs, but there are clear holes, and there are clear kid gloves with Spencer Howard and all this type of stuff where it feels like they're putting together a solid squad, but that they're maybe looking,
Starting point is 00:11:40 especially when we're talking about going over the luxury tax and all that. Is that what you think their plan is as an organization yeah maybe i mean because because i think about i think about i was actually thinking of the same thing the other day because i was just kind of trying to gauge where the phillies were at it almost feels like dombrowski's taking this year as like yeah let's compete whatever and we'll try but like i think they're waiting to get all the the bad clem tech you know deals kind of off the books. I mean, Arietta come off this year, which is a massive help, Robertson and all that stuff. And then next year's another
Starting point is 00:12:10 one with Kutch. It's unbelievable, but it's actually not Gene Segura's last year next year. It's unbelievable. He's got one more year on top of that. So yeah, I actually do think that is part of their plans. Just thinking about freeing up that money
Starting point is 00:12:26 and giving them more flexibility and being able to compete now, put together a pretty good team. But I really do think that next year is going to be their year to fully go in, and I can't believe that we're a decade removed from making the playoffs that we're talking about, but like, ah, next year is the year they're going to go all in. It's like, oh. It's called being a Phillies fan. Fun. Very fun. Yes. Yes. It's like, oh. It's called being a Phillies fan. Fun.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Very fun. Yes. Yes. This is our plight. All right. I feel like the Phillies every year is next year's the year. I mean, are we stuck in like – Our podcast is called High Hopes for a reason.
Starting point is 00:12:56 It's not called, you know, championship trophies. Yeah. It's not the name of the pod. No. No. It's like they name of the pod. No, no. It's like they maybe next year. I mean, we're kind of in a mid-2000s-ish role with the Phillies right now. When they were winning 86 games and missing the playoffs
Starting point is 00:13:16 for like two games every year was awful. The Boa squad. Yes, the Boa years. Underrated. I thought Boa did a better job than people give them credit for. All right. The bullpen moves. Since we last spoke, Brandon Kinsler to a minor league deal.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I'm sure he'll make the major league roster. He's better than 90% of the bullpen. I mean, they paid him $3 million when he gets to the major league roster. Right. Well, and also, we'll go one by one. Let's go Kinsler. All right. Well, no, it's so cute, the whole minor league deal thing.
Starting point is 00:13:47 It's so silly. It's like, what are we doing here? He's just going to take Sir Anthony's spot when he's put on DL on the 17th. He's going to be on the Major League roster. It's just roster. He had other offers. He could have gone right to a Major League deal.
Starting point is 00:14:02 This is chicanery. Yes. Bryce Harper did not beg for him to be here. Bryce Harper's not like, come play for the Reading Phils, please. Yes, come work out with the Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Lehigh Valley, you'd love it there, Brandon. It'll be great for you. Even though you've had a sub-2.5 VRA the last few years. You've closed in the majors in the last two years. Yeah, it's all good. Yeah, so Kinsler's funny. You know, I like the experience they don't bring back there. I am just terrified of old relievers who've been good recently
Starting point is 00:14:36 that the Phillies bring in. I know that's kind of unfair of me because I think that's generally a stupid strategy. Scarred. Scarred. And it's not like they're paying him real money. So it's not like, you know, it's not like Robertson or whatever. It's a pretty low risk, decently.
Starting point is 00:14:52 $3 million for one year is fine. Right. It's totally fine. Yeah. Right. But I have Jared Hughes vibes from this. Oh, stop. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Why are you doing that? What are you doing that what are you doing here and i know i know that i know that jt probably listens to the podcast so jt i'm sorry the eye roll right now is listening he just did that eye roll like in reaction he couldn't even help it you said jared he isn't it happens like a uh instinct it's like a reaction right so uh jt i'm very sorry i just like it's like i think he's good like i think he'll be good ultimately it was a good signing and you know whatever it's just 91 mile an hour throwers with sink like sinker ballers don't exactly excite me and i generally just wait for them to fall off a
Starting point is 00:15:37 cliff and and give it all back so i'm hoping that doesn't happen here and i do like how competitive he is i like you know he kind of rallied that Marlins bullpen behind him last year just with the whole Ricky Batalico calling them bottom feeders thing. You know, he kind of took that and ran with it. So, you know, I do think he brings value to leadership back there. I think he provides, you know, he's closed. He's had 12 saves last year. I mean, he's closed games in the major leagues,
Starting point is 00:16:04 and I just hope that at age 37 this isn't the year it all comes apart for him. He's had 12 saves last year. I mean, he's closed games in the major leagues. And I just hope that at age 37, this isn't the year it all comes apart for him. Yeah. Fingers crossed. Yeah. But the Phillies just have not had luck with these kind of signings. And it's only $3 million. I get it.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And I think he's going to be good. But there's just some scars for me. Yeah. I totally get that. I'm fine with it i don't i we had so many horrendous relievers last year who were young and unproven and all that that i'm not scarred either way i'm just whenever the bullpen comes into a game i'm gonna be scarred because last season like just flat out but i'll i'll feel feel better with Brandon Kintzler coming out there than a lot of guys. Like, again, he has had a, a solid track record, certainly, especially like later in his career. I mean, really
Starting point is 00:16:53 the best years of his career have been like the last four years, you know? So you feel good about that. You feel like he's figured out who he is and all that. And again, just a professional major league baseball reliever who's gotten big outs before to me it's like i'm down that's how that's how beaten down i am jack like what a novel concept major league baseball games before sure yeah come on in please come on down come on down uh look you save games all that stuff i'm I'm very fine with the signing. I have no issues with it. In on that. Another one, Hector Rondon. I think
Starting point is 00:17:30 maybe even a better signing considering the money. I mean, Rondon for 1.75. Another guy who's actually saved games in Major League Baseball before. What do you think about the Rondon move? First thing I want to figure out, is it Rendon or is it Rondon? I have heard Rondon, and we know.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Trust me. You don't need to go into the whole thing. I know. I'm not the foremost expert on this. I'm not claiming to be the baseballman when it comes to these names, but I'm pretty sure it's Rondon. I feel pretty confident. Okay, well, I think it's Rondon, and we can let the High Hopes listeners let us know.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Please. Because I've always called him Hector Rondon. So we all remember when you called Anthony Rendon. I remember. All right? I remember. This one, I used to call him Rondon, too. I'm pretty sure it's Rondon.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Okay. Okay. It doesn't sound right. I'm just going to be honest. It doesn't sound too. I'm pretty sure it's Rondon. Okay. Okay. It doesn't sound right. I'm just going to be honest. It doesn't sound right. I'm sure it doesn't. Yeah. So he's interesting because his velo didn't really drop off last year, but he got crushed with his fastball.
Starting point is 00:18:37 It was still 96, 97, but it was getting smoked. I watched some of him on Base baseball savant and i my main takeaway was like wow no one liked missing down the middle quite like hector rondon last year so um not the best idea or not the best takeaway i guess from from a first impression standpoint but you know at least he throws hard i know that sounds crazy but at least he throws hard and i think if he's still throwing hard you don't see that dip in velocity. And he was pretty nasty a couple of years ago. I really used to love watching him pitch. I always felt like the ball exploded out of his hands and, um, Cubs. He was good. He was legit. Yeah. Yeah, he was. Um, and there's Astros teams and all that.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So I, uh, I always liked watching him pitch. I've always watched him and think, wow, this guy has some stuff. It's the right kind of guy to give back there. Again, a minor league deal doesn't really hurt them. At least it has upside on Bud Norris and all that from last year. And I think it's the right kind of guy to give to Caleb Cotham and those guys and just kind of look at his pitch design. And, boy, that's a nerdy nerdy term but uh oh it's so nerdy by the way so real quick should we should we try this out i pulled up a
Starting point is 00:19:52 video of him pitching okay let okay hold on how's it sound i'm gonna turn the volume let's see ready Oh, I love to hear that. Love to hear that. So, yeah, so with pitch design, you know, I think that they can get him back to maybe, you know, what he was doing well and all that fun stuff. So, you know, the – Rondon! Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:18 My guy. Yes, your guy that you knew his name this whole time. I'm so annoyed with him. Yeah, you know. I'm so annoyed. You're great at a lot of things, James. Names, it's just not your strong suit. I hate you.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Hector Rondon. Damn it, Hector Rondon. What happened, buddy? That didn't sound right off when you said it. I'm glad we cleared that up. I'm excited to have him up yeah i'm excited to have him here uh you're excited to have him here yeah doesn't it's a little strong excited again i i
Starting point is 00:20:52 okay again i'm at the point where any guy who has gotten out in major league games is like sure i'll take a shot on you i'm so beaten down jack and i have not felt the fervent need to fix this bullpen. I've enjoyed the Phillies front office. I mean, Phillies offseason, front office is offseason. Whatever you're going to say, I've enjoyed it. I think for the most part, you know, they're running it back. For the most part, I mean, let's be real. But I have not, like, if it was me, if it were me, excuse me, the subjunctive. let's be real but i've not like if it was me if it were me excuse me the
Starting point is 00:21:26 subjunctive let's be right here if it were me and i were in charge as we did our perfect off season like i'm putting more resources into the bullpen like i am spending i know it's a crap show ever but like i'm coming off the worst bullpen in the history of the freaking sport, at least in modern times in the sport. The worst ever. Like, I can't let that happen again. I can't do that to my fan base event. I love the Bradley signing, but otherwise it really feels like they've kind of been like, oh, let's sign these lower radar guys,
Starting point is 00:21:58 under the radar guys. And again, that's where I'm at. I'm excited to have Kinsley. I'm excited to have Rondon here. But it doesn't feel like the urgency to fix this bullpen has been enough for me. That's my biggest criticism. And again, I'm pretty happy with what they've done. But my biggest criticism is, like, you should have done everything possible.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Like, whatever you have to do. I almost say, like, forget other positions. Fix this bullpen. Like, we can't do this again. And I'm not sure that it's happened. Like, I feel better about it, but I definitely don't feel, like, awesome with this pen. Yeah, I mean, and let me say this. I like the RG Bradley signing at the moment.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I could love it. That's a good point. That's a good point. I loved it when it first happened, and since, I've backed off a little bit. But not for baseball reasons. I currently like the Archie Bradley signing, but I want to get back to loving the Archie Bradley signing. It's a great point, Jack. It's a great point. It was a misstep by me. It's a great point. Yeah, I don't want to go overboard, but I'm just saying there is one thing that could happen that could get us back fully in on RG Bradley.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I mean, we would be calling it probably the greatest signing of the offseason if, you know, something happened. Yeah, we would get the best Phillies fans in the country fully behind the team again. And that's what I don't get. Like, why wouldn't you want to come on and talk to the best Phillies fans that there are. Like the top Phillies fans. The ones who care the most. The ones who literally think about it 24 hours a day. Who eat, breathe, and sleep Phillies. Again,
Starting point is 00:23:34 diseased Phillies fans. Like, why? I don't understand why you wouldn't want to reach out to that group of people. I'm just saying. Yeah, so, you know, whatever. We like the signing. So, yeah. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:46 We like the signing. Not sold yet. So, make me feel better about the bullpen, Jack. Make me feel better. Yeah. Make you feel better about the bullpen? Yes, please. I don't know if I can make you feel better about the bullpen.
Starting point is 00:23:59 No. Awesome. No, but I also think you're totally factoring in, and I get it because we haven't seen these guys, and I know that I'm the prospect guy, and I'm the guy that believes in these guys probably a little bit too much. Like me and their parents, right? That's who supports them as much as.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I actually think with Nick Pavetta that for a time, you loved him more than his parents, or certainly did more for his career than his parents did. There's no question about that. Well, no, I would say it was it was it was four people. OK, it was Nick's mom, Nick's dad, me and Chaim Bloom. Well, Chaim only because of you. So it's like one because of the other. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I mean, we're being real about it. That's right. Glass note 2.0 um uh um uh what i can't believe it's reached red socks nation like i want to i want us now 2.0 what are we doing i know what are we doing here i know i want to warn him like i want to say he's not because he's not i mean he's not glass now 2.0 um like what are you glass now six seven and like a freak what are we doing we're talking about and throws like a hundred you know and has rising you hear that the glass now story about what he does to get angry did you see that yes it was so ridiculous he also looks way too much like the guy from Peaky Blinders.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Oh, he's way too handsome. Tyler Glass now is a handsome fellow. Yeah, he looks like the guy from Peaky Blinders, but I can never tell who is who. I don't watch Peaky Blinders, so I can't corroborate that. He's a handsome dude. No, while I am talking here for a second, I need you to look up the Peaky Blinders.
Starting point is 00:25:43 What's the name? Do I just say guy from Peaky Blinders? If you just type in Peaky Blinders. Tom Hardy? Are you talking about Tom Hardy? Isn't he the lead of Peaky Blinders? I don't know. I've never watched the show. Okay, Peaky Blinders. I think it's Tom Hardy,
Starting point is 00:25:58 right? Isn't he the guy on it? I love Tom Hardy, but I don't think he really looks like Glass now. Oh, you're talking about Cillian Murphy, for sure. Yes, he totally looks... Jack, that is so perfect. It's one of the most on-point
Starting point is 00:26:14 things you've ever said. Tyler Glassnow is Cillian. If they ever made the Tyler Glassnow story, Cillian Murphy is the lock of all locks to play him. What a good call. 100% with you. Why would they make a Tyler Glass now story? I'm just saying. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I don't know. They might. They might. I'm trying to go through my head. Maybe he's the best pitcher in the history of baseball, Jack. That's on the table. Yeah, well, maybe if he could figure out how to get outs in the postseason, he'd be a little better.
Starting point is 00:26:38 But, yeah, if you don't know what we're talking about. Because it was a total non sequitur out of nothing. I know, I know. What we're talking about is Chaim Blum, I guess, through the athletic the other day, was competing with Eric Neander, who should have still come here, but we're fine. And he said that the report was was that high and bloom thinks that nick pivetta's glass no 2.0 and uh i would just like to tell you how he's not um but that's okay i hope the best for you and i hope he well i don't know if i hope he turns into glass no 2.0
Starting point is 00:27:19 actually i do hope he turns into the glass i mean mean, it's definitely the best outcome. Oh my gosh. I mean, every, it's still James, every freaking day I get Pavetta. It's every day. It's every day. So yes, I would like to be proven right. That is true.
Starting point is 00:27:34 That is me. Um, I know you. Yes. So, um, yes. I don't know which is more,
Starting point is 00:27:41 which is a more ridiculous comp Pavetta being glass. Now 2.0 or Kingery being,ery being Dustin Bedroia with more talent. Oh, man. It's hard to say, man. They're both really bad. Both are rough. They're both bad. They're not good. It's not good. So back to the bullpen.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I was about to say, where were we? We were at the bullpen. We were at the bullpen. I do believe in the Phill the bullpen. I was about to say, where were we? We were at the bullpen. We were at the bullpen. I do believe in the Phillies bullpen, and I believe in it because of guys taking step forwards like a Connor Brogdon, like a JoJo Romero, like a Damon Jones. These guys that are coming up through the minor leagues, that are starting to throw harder, starting to figure their stuff out,
Starting point is 00:28:21 starting to actually have wipeout stuff. Maybe for Francisco Morales late in the year. I think he's a bullpen kind of guy. So, yes, you know, some of the moves they've made is good. I mean, Jose Alvarado, Archie Bradley. We like the Archie Bradley move. Don't love the Archie Bradley move just yet. We could, of course, get to the loving standpoint.
Starting point is 00:28:39 But, you know, and Kintzler's good, adding more depth from that standpoint. But I am just very bullish on Brogdon Romero, Damon Jones, Francisco Morales, that they want to put Vinny back there. You know, God forbid another Vinny breakout year, but I'm buying in once again, baby. Well, I'd rather have him there than as the fifth starter, that's for sure. Right, but you're giving those kind of weapons to the to the back end of the bullpen in your this is what what jack's trying to say here without saying it is he has the utmost fullest completest belief in caleb cop that's really what that you're trying to say it's not
Starting point is 00:29:18 just right it's it's caleb cotham but it's also travis hergert and it's also pat robles and like my guys down in the player development, I believe in what they're doing, and I just think that they're going to get the optimum outcome out of the talent that is coming through the minor leagues. And I think that we started to just see that last year with JoJo and Brock, and I anticipate all of this getting better. So, yes, it is bullish.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I understand it is shooting for the moon, but it's what I believe, and I believe in those guys, and I believe in the guys coming up through the system. Okay. I want to get to what's next. Did they do enough? And, Elise, quickly, can we just do this as quickly as humanly possible? Win-loss?
Starting point is 00:30:02 Just no. Flat out no. Win-loss. Just, no. Flat out, no. Win-loss. We're going to throw 162. Is that your plan tonight? I thought that's what we're leading with. Okay. We can quickly just agree, like, flat out no on Adubo Herrera,
Starting point is 00:30:16 and we can just move forward? Yes. There's no reason he should be back on the field. Yes, that is us addressing the Adubo Herrera situation. No. Okay. Next. Okay. Next. What's next?
Starting point is 00:30:29 Are they done? I don't know. There's just a – I don't know how close they are to luxury tax. I don't know what their budget is. I don't know that off the top of my head. We should check. Johnny Heller has been really good at this. I know.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I feel like he always puts it out. I'll take a quick look. I feel like he always puts it out in the middle of the podcast, which is much appreciated. So, again, I don't know exactly where they are, but I just think that if a Paxton, a Taewon Walker, like these guys, some of the bullpen pieces that are still out there.
Starting point is 00:31:06 If we're getting closer to spring training, I can just see Middleton and just being that competitive spirit that I do think he is just being like, these guys will make my team better next year. Let's give it a shot. So I don't, I think they would, I think in their heads, they're probably done. You know, you, you might see might see some minor signings and whatever. That'll probably be like the Matt Joyces and Brandon. Kinsler's better than that, but you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Like the scrap heap type. But I just think the longer these guys stay out there, I could see them pulling the trigger on a bigger-ish name and just saying, listen, we're going to try to compete this year and this guy makes us better and we're getting him a massive discount. I don't know if they're done, but I think the big signings are done, but I
Starting point is 00:31:53 do still think that if one of these guys are out there, I could totally see them being like, you know what? Screw it. Let's just sign him. I hope so. For what it's worth, last time Johnny tweeted about it wasary 3rd uh they were seven million below where they were last year i think they've been signing since then so they're probably pretty kinsler was after that yeah and that's my ideal so i guess it doesn't
Starting point is 00:32:14 count until it becomes major deal but i'm sure they're budgeting for that and all that but the point is they're they're right up against it you know if anything else a small move or two it is interesting that they were connected to paxton and walker and uh jake odorizzi those like top three starters still in the market god i would be so happy like ah any of the three any like any of those three guys what a win i know well it's like what a win it would be for as excited as you were for the jt and uh dd podcast like i don't know man i would be just as ecstatic to have one of those guys just at this point given our rotation and being able to add one
Starting point is 00:32:51 of those pieces to this rotation would just i'd be over the moon it changes everything especially if we're we're under the assumption like we talked about before that we don't expect spencer howard to be a contributor at least certainly early in in the season and even really the first half of the season or whatever. And then, like you said, then the optionality of saying, all right, come up, but put you know what I'm doing here. Shout out to Sam. That's our guy like that. It does give you optionality, though.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It allows you to say, all right, you know, we can bring Spencer Howard up and make him a two inning dominant, you know, seventh, eighth inning guy or whatever. I mean, that's a massive weapon if they're competing and all that type of stuff. So I do think that the more starters they have, the more flexibility they have from that perspective. And the guys they got now, it's hope. It's potentially good eat-innings or maybe Matt Moore is better than we expect or whatever. But if you sign an Odorizzi, a Paxson or a Walker, like it's like, all right, that's our four, really our three in certain cases. But like, we're set, like we're good. Now we're just kind of figuring out the fifth starter. Cause before we had felt so confident with the three as you know, the obvious three and then, and then Howard, and then
Starting point is 00:33:57 it's like, all right, Vinnie or Anderson or whoever, like now it's like, oh, like if they don't do something else, we could. And, and turns into the reliever, potentially, we think he could be most effective as. I mean, you're talking about Chase Anderson and Vinny or something like that as your 4-5. And that's very not compelling. So I'm with you. I do think that hopefully they'll look at this squad and say, you know what? Screw it. Let's go a little bit more in or whatever.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Or if nothing else, obviously you hope that if they're competitive and I do think that if they're competitive and they have an opportunity to trade for something later on that puts them over, I do think that's a situation where they would absolutely do it. Um, but you know, it is, you know, it's, it's hope at this point with that. Um with that in mind, do you think they did enough? I'm very happy with the offseason. Just the fact that Didi's back, JT's back, the Archie Bradley signing was big,
Starting point is 00:34:57 the Alvarado trade was interesting. I would still like one more interesting trade. I don't know. Trades excite me. I know. You've been asking one for a while i know i feel like i feel like since we started this podcast my only yeah i get one cool trade um but yeah i think they i think from what i was expecting and given the the luxury tax
Starting point is 00:35:17 constraints yeah i think they did i i would have preferred uh a higher upside signing uh with the chase anderson and Matt Moore money. But, you know, whatever. I mean, hopefully it works out. Hopefully you get, like, I don't know, four years ago, Matt Moore. So, yeah, I'm fine with it. I am happy with the offseason. And I think it's just setting the table for a good year that they could make the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And then really next offseason is hopefully they add another big piece. Yeah, that's where I'm at too. All right, before we get to the take bag, last thing, for me at least, at least, Braves bring back Ozuna. They've had a nice offseason. The Nationals didn't do a ton but still have some talent certainly so don't all that the Mets of course with a massive offseason
Starting point is 00:36:08 and potentially still more though please sign Jake Arrieta he was great here New York Mets if Stevie Uncle Steve I know you listen he's great Jake Arrieta is such a wonderful guy to have on your team in every aspect so certainly sign him great for the young players
Starting point is 00:36:24 yeah he's just a great guy to have around like really just an awesome guy in every aspect, so certainly sign him. Great for the young players, too. Yeah, he's just a great guy to have around. Really just an awesome guy who everyone loves. The fans will love him. The players love him. It'll be great. He will never throw any other players under the bus. He'll take it all on himself when he has issues.
Starting point is 00:36:36 It'll be great. Where do you think they stack up right now? Because I think you look around the NLEs. I think a lot of people are saying fourth-best team. Some saying fifth best team. I see third best team here and there. You really don't see them in those top two spots much. How do you think they stack up right now with potentially a few more moves to go in this division? But for the most part, these teams kind of looking what they'll probably look like to start the season. Well, let me tell you one thing, James. I saw the Dakota projections the other day. 83 wins.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I will eat a freaking shoe if the Mets win 95 games. Get out of here with that crap. That Mets team is not winning 95 games. I don't care. I don't think so either. They're still the Mets. I think they're more likely to win 95 than 85. Well, yeah, I would hope so.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Well, I'm just saying. I mean, 85 is a playoff team, potentially. Potentially. I was annoyed when I saw the 95. Let's not overrate the Mets. Although, once a week, I feel like I forget they traded for Lindor. Lindor, that's the biggest reason. I know.
Starting point is 00:37:42 He changes everything. He changes everything. I know. I can't believe they had Lindor. It breaks my soul. He's my biggest reason. I know. He changes everything. He changes everything. I know. It's just, I can't believe Dave Lindor. It breaks my soul. I know. He's my favorite guy. You're my favorite guy.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I know. So bummed. I know. I try not to think about it. I try. I know. You're the one who brought it up. I know.
Starting point is 00:37:57 But either way, they're not winning 95 games. Although, there's two Mets rumors out there today that are, well, so the one. The one is scary. If they sign Paxson, it's like, oh. Oh, no, no, no, so the one, the one, the one is scary. If they sign Paxson, it's like, Oh no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:38:07 that's, that's not what I'm talking about. There's, there's one that's way scary. There's one that's way scarier than that. I'll tell you that in one second. The first one is the Chris Bryant trade. That one's still apparently out there that they might be working on,
Starting point is 00:38:20 but you know, Chris Bryant, whatever. He's good, but he, I agree with you. He's good, but I, I'm not ready to say that Chris Bryant is a, you know chris bryant whatever he's good but he i agree with you he's good but i i'm not ready to say that chris bryant is a you know a superstar yeah don't cut this audio if he hasn't bounced
Starting point is 00:38:32 back um former like mvp level player chris bryant yes yes and let's never bring up bryant um in this discussion but the other one is from from craon. What's Brian like? I don't know. You're tired? From Craig Carton up in New York. He said that they have touch base with the A's about a Matt Chapman trade. Oh, shut up. Shut up, Carton. Shut up. That would be devastating. Shut up, Chris.
Starting point is 00:38:58 That would be absolutely devastating. Matt Chapman's such an A's guy. He's cheap. He's one of the best players in this position in the sport. What are you doing? Yeah, but you know he's also such an A's guy. I know. He's coming up.
Starting point is 00:39:09 They're going to have to pay him. I get it. I know the A's do their thing. I'm just not down with that. All right? Yeah. Next offseason, I need the Phillies to be in on the Matt Chapman trade sweep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Move Boehm to first. Yes. Do whatever the hell you want with Reese Hoskins. Bring me Matt Chapman. I love that. I love him. So yes, that is terrifying if they trade for Matt Chabon. But the Mets, sure, they'll be right up there.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I trust the Braves will probably win the division. I think the Phillies are the third best team in the division. I think the Marlins stink. I'm so not on this Marlins like, oh, they're just building and building. No, I think the Marlins stink. And I just don't buy into the Nationals' talent.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I just don't. I think it's a bunch of old dudes. I think they're fine. Soto versus Acuna for the MVP is going to be amazing. But I just don't buy into that team anymore. I don't see the talent there. I don't see the moves that made this offseason as something to really be worried about.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And I just had this weird feeling about Dombrowski that I just trust the way that he puts together a baseball team. I think they'll be competitive next year. I think they'll have the third-best record in the NL East. And, you know i am really genuinely excited for the nl east you know we talk about all the time the nfc east and like you know i i am working here obviously our average listener is probably what like 35 to what was it 35 to 54 ish j James, you would say. Are you talking on, like, radio? Yes, at WIP.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, our average. Something like that, right? Maybe even a little older, but yeah. Yeah. Dude, and I'm so jealous every single time people talk about the 90s NFC East. And that's kind of where we're at with today's NL East. Like, it's loaded, man.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Like, it is legitimately loaded. It should be a battle. And really, rivalries are just great for the sport. They're great for baseball. Northeast baseball is different. And it's just those rivalries are going to be back. And hopefully we're back in the ballpark to enjoy it because it's going to be
Starting point is 00:41:16 a dogfight. And I just cannot wait. I cannot wait to get started. I mean, with 48 days? And 48 days from opening day. I can't believe we're 48 days from opening day. It's crazy. I can't believe we're 48 days from opening day. It's crazy. I can't either. It's still, because there was so much uncertainty.
Starting point is 00:41:30 It's like, is it really happening? Are they really going to start on time? All that stuff. I'm with you with the NLEs. I actually, to be honest, I actually fear the Marlins more than the Nats. I agree with you. I think the Phillies are in that three range. I think the Marlins, look, the Marlins have young talent,
Starting point is 00:41:47 and they could take a step forward. I mean, as we know, just with the top of the rotation, I mean, that's – it's good. It's really good, and you could be with it. Jazz Chisholm is a really good player who got a taste last year coming up. More than anything, I actually think Mattingly is a really good manager. I've been really impressed with him. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I think Mattingly is good. I think he does a good job. But I agree with him. I think Mattingly's good. I think he does a good job. But I agree with you. I think the Nationals are... I'm not super scared. I'm not really scared of the Nats. I just think the Mets and Braves are definitively better. It doesn't always play out that way, but I do feel that way.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I agree with you for the most part. Speaking of a month away or a little over a month away, we do have a schedule. The Phillies open against the Braves on April 1st, Jack. That of a month away or a little over a month away, we do have a schedule. The Phillies open against the Braves on April 1st, Jack. I know. That's a thing. That's going to happen apparently. I saw it too. I saw it today and I literally
Starting point is 00:42:34 got butterflies. Braves-Mets, Braves-Mets. So you go three against the Braves, three against the Mets, three against the Braves, four against the Mets. Let's bleep in. Go. Are we doing win-loss?
Starting point is 00:42:50 Are we doing win-loss right now? It's too many games. Give me 162, baby. Give me 162. Are we doing win-loss? Can you imagine a worse decision for a podcast or radio show to do
Starting point is 00:43:06 than to go win-loss for 162 games? Listen, all I'm saying is if I get an overnight shift before baseball season, I am spending an hour doing 162 win-loss. So wait, it goes Braves-Mets. Braves? Braves-Mets, Braves? Braves, Mets, Braves, Mets. Yeah. Sounds like nine and three, James.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Their first 13 games are against the Mets and the Braves. When is the first rant? I can't wait. It's good. Like literally, Mets, Braves. Look, it does present an interesting situation for the Phillies where if somehow they could just start the season hot, like. It really is a big deal. Like if you could start off, you know, 11 and five in those games or something, obviously, you know, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:01 No, I said 13 games. Excuse me. Like 10 and three or nine and four. Like it I said 13 games. Excuse me. 10-3 or 9-4. It's a big advantage. You do set yourself up well. Baseball, when you get off to a hot start, really does make a big difference throughout the course of the season for so many reasons.
Starting point is 00:44:16 That's right. It's a good win-loss breakdown right there. You know what I'm terrible at? You know what sucks? All year, we can't wait for opening day and the first month like baseball every night. And then, dude, by like the fourth game, we're like, I hate to see him again. There's always like. I'm so ready for that.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I can't wait to hate. They do start at home now, which is fun. Yeah. Starting at home. Oh, no. First six at home. Oh, this stupid. I freaking.
Starting point is 00:44:40 It's the dumbest thing in the history of sports is opening day on Thursday and off day Friday. You can bring the DH back in the NL for all I care. Enough with the stupid freaking day off after the first game of the season. Oh, it's such a joke. It's such a joke. Oh, it's awful. By the way, James, April 19th. Do you see what's on that day? Do I see what is on April 19th?
Starting point is 00:45:09 Oh, buddy. Gabe. Gabe. Gabe. What other good stuff? I'm just cycling through here. All-Star break, July 12th. Are you excited for that?
Starting point is 00:45:21 Ready for the All-Star game? Chaim and the Red Sox prior to that? No, it's in Boston. Oh, I would love to go to Fenway. Have you never been to Fenway? Well, I've been to Fenway and I've toured Fenway, but I've never seen a game in it. Yeah, so no. I actually am going to make that happen.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Please, I'll go to Fenway. Let's do it. Fenway's great. I haven't been in a while. Should we do a High Hopes road trip? High Hopes road trip to Fenway. Let's do it. Fenway's great. I haven't been there in a while. Should we do a High Hopes road trip? High Hopes road trip to Fenway? Yes. Love when we impromptu plan things on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Yeah, that sounds like maybe the best. How about this? Tweet us if you're interested in a High Hopes trip to Boston. Let's hope we're all vaccined up by then and all that good stuff. Let's make sure there's people allowed in the stands. Yeah, assuming the world allows this to happen, I am very in for Femway in July. Are you? Let us know because I'm in.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I'll make it happen. So you know what I'm looking for right now, James? You know, guess, are you looking down June 14th? Do you see the significance? June 14th. Oh, buddy. A first West Coast fills? Which is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I'm happy it's that long that I get a little break before too many West Coast games. I love... Dude, I swear I love West Coast fills. This is a perfect, perfect, perfect exemplification of our ages because I, too, used to love West Coast Bills. Oh, what an excuse to stay up until 1 in the morning and watch the Bills. So right now, I'm like bleep my life
Starting point is 00:46:59 because I have to stay up until 1.30, 2 o'clock in the morning and then go to work the next day. So, yeah, I'm an old man. I'll take it. I'm already getting giddy about West Coast Bills. I'm sure you are, buddy. I'm sure you are. You know what I always think about, though, is like,
Starting point is 00:47:16 do you remember the game that cut towards ACL? And it was like we had to wait until freaking like 2 in the morning. So brutal. 2.30 in the morning just to see if the news was out and it wasn't. Also, we get Yanks and Red Sox this year again, which would be exhilarating.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I love playing the Yankees and Red Sox. It just makes me feel like baseball is like baseball again. Yeah, it feels baseball. It's the perfect way to put it. James, when I say I'm sad, a tear is starting to come down my cheek. I believe it.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I so believe it. All right, what do you got in the tank bag? Because I'm done. All right, from one thing to another. How about this? Do I have permission to take? Yes, that's the point. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Matt Moore is going to be Drew Pomerantz 2.0 here let's see him getting out oh dude drew pomerantz stunk before two years ago i think i can believe in matt moore a little bit here's why two reasons one 87an-hour cutter is what he was averaging in 2019 with the Detroit Tigers. He allowed one bunt-based hit off of it. I understand it was a start and a half and a total of nine innings. But it was diving, and it's a really good tunneling pitch off of his knuckle curveball, which I'll get to in one second.
Starting point is 00:48:46 But it was 87. It finally had some depth to it. I think if you can get it to 89, 90 miles per hour again, I think the cutter is a legitimate weapon for him. But the reason why Matt Moore is going to turn into Drew Pomerantz 2.0, and please credit this podcast if it happens. And if it does not happen, please do not credit this podcast. It's because of that knuckle curve.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And in his career, out of 863 pitches to left-handers with his knuckle curve, James, how many hits do you think that Matt Moore has allowed? So how many batters was it? No, no, no. He's thrown 863 pitches. Out of those, how many have they resulted in hits? Oh, oh, oh, I got you. I'm going to guess lower than I probably would have
Starting point is 00:49:42 because obviously you wouldn't ask a question. Let's say 55. 45. So he's lost 45. So that's really low. I guessed very low on purpose. Yes. 45.
Starting point is 00:49:54 He's allowed a total of, I believe, 13 extra base hits out of 863 pitches. So that pitch is a weapon. 63 pitches. So that pitch is a weapon. And just in watching some of the stuff last year in Japan, still had the same kind of movement that it had when it was over here. So I think if they want to turn him into that, it would be delightful. So I'm buying some Matt Moore stock.
Starting point is 00:50:26 This is going to sound weird, but late at night when I have nothing to do do i don't really want to go to bed yet i think about matt moore and i start to do some deep dives into matt moore and why i believe in him so what's funny is that it doesn't sound weird to anyone who listens to this podcast yeah it should you're right it should sound weird it doesn't i know well because jill uh so she doesn't really fall asleep well if we go to bed together so i've been trying to let her to go to bed first oh look at you yeah and i'll stay up extra late just so that she can fall asleep wait hold up so is that a you thing or is that like a tv thing like emily emily has over the years i i have i have gotten away from watching TV when I go to bed because Emily is not great
Starting point is 00:51:08 with the TV on when she goes to bed but like I can read a book or whatever but I've just grown out of watching TV in the bed is it a TV thing or is it a you thing it's a me thing we don't have a TV it's definitely a me thing yeah
Starting point is 00:51:23 hard to blame her it's definitely a me thing so Hard to blame her. Yeah. It's definitely a me thing. So I just try to let her hopefully fall asleep, and then I can slide in late at night and hopefully not wake everyone up. So, yes. So I've been staying up a little bit later, thinking a lot about Matt Moore.
Starting point is 00:51:41 And it's great. I think you might need to find better uses of your time I don't know I don't think I do anyway I know you don't trust me I know you don't you know what I'm not going to talk about Vinny tonight because I would just like no you know what
Starting point is 00:51:58 we're having such a good time I know I know but here's a tease here's a tease for next podcast ruin the mood. Don't ruin the mood. Here's a tease for next podcast. Oh, the real ones here 50 plus minutes in. Whatever. Don't ruin it for them.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Here's a tease for next podcast. Buying back into Vinny Velasquez. I'll explain why. No! Stop. All right. Are we done? Is that the end of the pod?
Starting point is 00:52:18 No. Did you just say, all right, time to be done. Nope. So I'm just going to say this thing that's going to end it because, you know. Nope. I I'm just going to say this thing that's going to end it because, you know. Nope. I got more. I would like to say goodbye to a friend of the podcast, Phil Gosselin, signed with the LA Angels.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Shout out to Barrows. He officially becomes the best player in the Angels. Well, there has been lately a lot of talk, different sport, obviously, but there's been a lot of talk about, oh, will you root for Carson Wentz when he goes to another team? And who cares is my point about that, but what I will say is, you're GD
Starting point is 00:52:54 right. I am rooting for Phil Gosselin on another team. Shout out to Barrels. We love you. Yes, and we'll miss you, buddy. The Phillies gave Ned... Open invitation if you want to come on the pod and talk about mike trout and tell us you know if he has any regrets any you know maybe he wants to get traded philly i don't know if you want to give us some of that you know inside scoop on trout we're here phil don't forget your you know your people i don't want to talk about benedict trout
Starting point is 00:53:21 but um that would be that would be intriguing. Can we ask him? Do you think he went there to play with Trout? Do you think he was like, I got to go play with Mike? I mean, come on. Trout does draw stars to come play with him in L.A., so I could totally see that. The Phillies gave a two-year extension to Ned Rice.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I actually really like it, and I know that sounds weird, but the guy – It does sound weird. I actually really like it. And I know that sounds weird, but the guy does. I know. But like, so he just want a little bit of Matt Klintag to still be there and still be involved. He's like the Matt Klintag proxy that can still be involved. Oh, wait, Matt Klintag's still there. Never mind. So, yeah. Okay. But from what I've learned about Ned Rice is that he was the point man on the Harper deal. He was, he, he, I mean, he read the JT real mutual market. So for as much credit as we gave Klintz act for reading the market,
Starting point is 00:54:14 right. I think it was more Ned Rice. So, um, and, and Dombrowski shouted him out the other day with the, the DD deal. And we both felt like the DD deal was a smart deal.
Starting point is 00:54:23 So, um, I think it's a smart thing to keep Ned Rice around. I don't want him to be my GM, but I'm glad he's here for the next two years. And my final thing is, and we have to do it, RIP Pedro Gomez.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Just in watching ESPN over the years, every time he came on, I feel like he just put me in a better mood. And he was a smart guy, funny guy, seemed to love baseball. And just that news this week was pretty tough to see. Yeah, big time. And like you said, was one of those guys who, like, just, it seemed like, like Karchin, you know know one of those guys who when you watch them you
Starting point is 00:55:05 could just like how much they love the sport oozes out of them you know it's almost like they can't keep it in like this just effervescent love for the sport of baseball and as people like us the diseased phillies fans and diseased baseball fans that we like, I know I'm speaking for you. When I say, when you see people like that, we feel a connection to them, like drawn to them because that's how we feel about baseball. And when you see people in these national positions who like, and especially with so many people who it feels like don't love the sport,
Starting point is 00:55:37 they cover talk about, um, I'm with you, uh, Pedro's, um, outlook and attitude towards baseball was super refreshing and I really appreciated him
Starting point is 00:55:48 so I'm with you, that was a tough one yeah, for sure tough one, losing Pedro Gomez and you know 2021's not off to a hot start but no, we lost Hank one after the other, it's not great
Starting point is 00:56:04 Chick Corea today I know. I know. Chick Corea today. I know that probably won't mean anything to you, but Chick Corea died. That's a huge bummer. One of the great jazz pianists of all time. Awesome, awesome musician. R.I.P. Chick Corea.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Hmm. I didn't think it would matter to you. There is someone listening to this spot right now who's like, you're damn right, Seltzer. Chick Corea was a genius, and I'm going to miss him. So to that person who is listening right now, I'm with you. RIP Chick Corea. Rest in power, brother.
Starting point is 00:56:33 And I just feel like the point that I brought up yesterday is becoming more and more relevant as we keep talking. What point is that? What point did you bring up yesterday not on the pod in together that i'm forgetting about right now that you have you need to figure out how to be more relatable that's good yeah you're right you're right all my all my old people references and out of date out of touch stuff just doesn't work how about this jack all right you want to go relatable on you and this will be this will sub it as my final thought okay um did you see the cat video the lawyer cat video it was hilarious
Starting point is 00:57:17 i think it's the funniest thing that maybe has ever been on the internet like it's legitimately in the running for the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. When I heard that dude go, I'm live. I am not a cat. Yes. I like, I couldn't control my laughter. It was like three minutes of me, like trying to catch my breath.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I was laughing so hard. Shout out to the cat lawyer. Yeah. That was hilarious. Yeah. I just need the backstory as to how that happened. breath i was laughing so hard shout out to the cat lawyer yeah that was hilarious yeah just i i just need the the backstory as to how that happened but well have you seen the picture of the guy too it's like so perfect he's like this like southern taste got like a cowboy hat it's like the most
Starting point is 00:57:56 opposite of the cat that you could be it's perfect yes that was a great video 48 days from opening day look at me being related you don't give me any credit for me i know i'm no it's good it's good relatability to what's happening you know i know you listen we'll work we'll work on this together pal you got any final thoughts i think i think your haircut's fine that's my final thought thank you i i was so for those who don't know joe to camera ripped me with the gall of Joe DiCamera, to rip me for haircut on the air. But like I said, I shaved my head for the first,
Starting point is 00:58:30 not shave, it's like a buzz cut. You know, it's like a clipper's cut. So it's like very, very short hair. I've never done it before in my life. I was very nervous about it. I've never done it before in my life. I was nervous I was gonna have some like weird birthmark on my head
Starting point is 00:58:41 or my head was gonna be misshapen or whatever. And my wife did it. Thank you, Emily. I thought it looked fine. Like I was like, this is fine. birthmark on my head or my head was gonna be misshapen or whatever and my wife did it thank you emily i thought it looked fine like i was like this is fine i'm i'm all right with this i'm i'm over my fears of this and then joe to camera tears me apart on the air it hurt jack i appreciate you saying that yeah i mean i was stunned when i saw it but oh yeah i mean it's fine never before in my life i've never done it in my life yeah i was like you know what screw it yeah yeah it's fine. Never before in my life. I've never done it in my life. Yeah. I was like, you know what? Screw it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah. It's the right time to do it. Yeah. That was my thought. Yeah. And then I get killed on the radio. I know. For thousands of people to hear.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Right. Millions, I say. Millions, I say. So, yeah, I think your hair is fine, buddy. Thanks, buddy. Honestly, you made my night with that one. Let us know if you're in on Boston Because assuming the world works
Starting point is 00:59:27 We're really in for that I think that's a super fun idea And Fenway Park, if you're a diseased baseball fan like us And you haven't been to Fenway Park for a game It's just a must And it's super doable So let us know if you're in on Fenway Park That's all I got
Starting point is 00:59:43 That's all you got? That's all I got We'll be back next week on Fenway Park. That's all I got. That's all you got? That's all I got. We'll be back next week. It's Chris and Tasha. Talk to you later.

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