High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - Final Out: Goodbye, Cyjuan

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Jack Fritz reacts to the Phillies 10-4 loss at the hands of the San Francisco Giants on Monday night. The offense once again struggled to hit with runners in scoring position and Taijuan Walker allowed six runs in a nightmare third inning. Presented by Miller Lite. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What a brutal night I mean what a Brutal night down at the ballpark Welcome on in it is the final out Jack Fritz hanging out with you here on this Monday night as we continue to react to a Philly's club That just looks flat and it is

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and walking in the streets of Westchester trying to get my one son asleep. I was trying to text Buzz, like, need a heads up here because both are still awake. So we're doing well. We're doing well. You know to to to under to what walks a little bit over to. But you get the point. So we're battling and grinding unlike the fills. The biggest takeaway of the game is brought to you by Morgan and Morgan America's largest injury a law from this offense stinks. It's it's just an excruciating offense and You know, I think the biggest disconnect between

what we feel watching this team and what the national media or people who don't watch the The Phillies on a day-in day-out basis is if you look at the Phillies lineup on paper, it's good You got quote-unquote stars up and down a lineup But it's just there's so many nights like tonight and there's so many times Where I have to watch a Giants offense that They have Willie Adamus who's actually off to a horrible start Matt Chapman's off to a horrible start other than that You know, I like Mike you stremsky. I love John Holi But you know, I think for the common baseball fan

they have no idea who a lot of those players are and To watch that offense led by Pat burl You have what seven extra base hits tonight consistently put hard contact We can we can scream until the cows come home about chase rate And we could complain about walks and we can complain about strikeouts This philly's offense Does not hit the ball hard. They don't hit the ball hard. They don't do damage They don't slug for as much we talk about it's either home run or bust. It's it's barely even that it's just still

it's just a totally totally lackluster unit and I just if you're not gonna if you can't change the The chemistry up of the offense, like they've changed a lot. I'm not talking about that kind of chemistry. I'm talking about the guys in there. If you can't change that up

and you're not gonna move on from Rob Thompson and you've seen the offense not be able to adjust and even like even for periods, we like to romanticize 2022 because of what they did for for a month in October they were this way in 2022 they were this way a majority of 2023 and then it really manifested itself in games six and seven of the diamondback series they were this way last year and so far this year they're doing it again and I just don't

know what Kevin Long does here and believe me I'm not dumb enough like I know enough baseball to know that it's not all the feet of the hitting coach but when I watch teams that have less talent consistently be able to out produce a lineup that has two $300 million players, a couple other hundred plus million dollar players. Their second best hitter, now this is not anti-shorber at all, it's just he's making a good amount of money

and he's done a really good job. You have a top three pick who's cratering. You have a 14th overall pick in Bryson Stott, who, good player, but I don't think he's gotten much better since he's gotten, I think he's about the same player. I think Alec Bohm is about the same player. I think Brandon Marsh, we're watching him crater right in front of us. You're seeing a lot of guys that have not progressed at all. Something's not getting through. So if you can't change the chemistry of

the players on the team and you're just keeping the same hitting coach who I think is turning into a dinosaur I do I think that he is someone when the fast ball was prevalent and beating fastballs and when the velocity was really starting to uptick was fine but modern Major League Baseball it is sweepers. It is sliders It is cutters it is moving off the barrel It is sinkers it is cutters it is splitters. It is moving off the barrel and Like I haven't looked at the chase right numbers but 20 whiffs tonight 20 whiffs against the Giants started tonight who's a rookie pitching

in that ballpark that sucks I mean it just it just sucks Johan Rojas is not a big leaguer I don't know how many times we've got to continue to do this unfortunately they're they're they're hamstrung there because Brandon Marsh might not be a big leaguer right now. He might be a platoon bat at his at his best. So you have to play Johan Rojas in two big spots tonight. He strikes out one on three pitches and then they can't pick up the next guy. So this is absolutely brutal. You want Ross isn't a big leaguer it They need they need to find some way to shake this up I mean, it's it's just it's it's borderline. It's borderline maddening and I It's Kevin long's probably the first one to go

I don't know why he was brought back in the first place Was he brought back because of some false hope that you were gonna sign one soda this offseason Because they're friends no idea, but I think the game is passing by I think that the more and more you see teams just just sweep this team to death not talking about like actually Getting swept out in series and talking the pitch. I Just don't know like it's it's it's it's Terrible just terrible to watch and and the the lack of execution since since they got to Atlanta has been Been just awful. I mean there was a lot of

Points in the in the in the brave series that could have broken through that was where they don't lose two of three It's brave seems it's not playing good baseball right now There was multiple situations in the in the Cardinal series where they could have come through I mean the worst situation for this team right now is second and third less than no less than two outs They won't get the job done. There's one on Saturday where Trey got a hit and I said, wow I don't think I've ever seen that in my entire life. It's just brutal. It's absolutely brutal 255 92 94 94 Taiwan was one bad inning. You know, he battled after that. He threw a ball in the center field.

It would have been a double play ball. I actually don't leave this Taiwan start feeling like this is the worst thing I've ever experienced in my entire life. You know, I thought there was actually some good and he generated a ton of whiffs on his split, which I think was a positive sign. He's not great, but he can take down some innings for you.

And I was glad he was able to kind of help tonight for a little bit outside the horrible inning whatever we don't need to belabor that and then Final point here is I'm really disappointed that Rob Thompson had no reaction to the to the JT strike three call that was Almost hit the first base dugout. I mean it was it was a little reminiscent of when Girardi just sat there as Kyle Schwaber was melting down against the Brewers on Sunday night baseball like before Girardi got fired in 2022. But I know that your whole thing is is even Kiel. You're also a baseball man. You're also someone that needs to stick up your players. JT Ruel Mutu I have never seen react like that in his six years of being the catcher

for the Phillies. And that's a spot where you can go out there and maybe spark a team a little bit. I mean, it might work, it might not work. But I think those players would like to know that their manager is there for them. And we don't need to leisurely come out in between innings and check the lights. I just, I thought that was a moment for Rob Thompson to show some emotion. And I was disappointed he didn't do anything.

Travis is in California. What's happening, Travis? What's up, Jack? What's going on, man? I am just extremely upset. And I don't OK, I'll just say this. I'm really pissed off at Dumbrovsky. I know he's not playing on the field

and I know he got a couple of star players and stuff like that and they need to perform better. But my thing is that in 2022, like I know they weren't supposed to be at the World Series but whatever, they made it, it was awesome. But the offense ended up collapsing. They started pitching around Harper. Whatever. They ran it back one year Thinking like okay, that was that was a fluke like whatever though if we get Added to it. They added a 300 million dollar short. Yeah, that's true. That's true. My bad. My bad

They did that trade Turner. Okay, they added trade Turner, but they still didn't add anyone behind Bryce sure what I'm trying to say sure and then Trey Turner but they still didn't add anyone behind Bryce. Sure. That's what I'm trying to say. Sure. And then we're 20-20 worse. Three years later and we still have not done anything. We added Trey Turner. He's underperformed but like the last two off-seasons, the last two deadlines, like they've had chances to do something. Like I'm not saying they got a freaking sign Juan Soto but like you could they they had to do something. Like even bullpen the office is more of a problem it's been a problem for like the past few years but like even the bullpen like everyone knew the bullpen was an arm short at least now it feels like it's at least two arm short but like he just he's done nothing

to approve the team and that's at this to the point we're like what are the put like the players are what they are like they're probably thinking like dude we need something like how are we just to run it back with the same team and expect like, oh, we're going to get different results? I just don't. I don't understand. He's had his chances. You got to strike when the iron's hot.

And the iron was hot, 2023. Even last year, they won the division. You got to do something. And he just did absolutely nothing. Austin Hayes at the deadline was a joke. Carlos Estevez, like, he's fine. But like, it wasn't a needle mover. Like, and then in the offseason, they had so there was so many closers on the market, like Devin Williams got traded for not much.

I mean, Tanner Scott was out there late, Kirby Yates even was out there late. But he just like, they weren't even like rumored in on anybody. It's just like, dude, I don't know what he expected. And I don't know what he expected and I don't know what some Fans expected to like me personally. I didn't expect them. I Like what they're doing right now is kind of like what I expected like I just I don't understand how I was supposed to Come into the season thinking that Something would just suddenly quit because it's the same exact offense

aside from Max Kepler like did they think Max Cutler was going to show up and just Turn everything around like they've had a centerfield problem for years and years and years and Johan Rojas is still freaking playing like he's still playing Brandon Marsh ever since is that bad against Ryan Pressley in 2022 when he struck out in a spot where all he needed to do was make contact yeah ever since then I've just been so upset with him and I know he's had his good moments but it's just like dude It cannot be this hard to find the frickin everyday center fielder and everyday left fielder like it cannot

well, and it's just and I appreciate the phone call it's just the the lack of execution and it just feels like the baseball IQ and the amount of ah the amount of first pitch swing and Listen, I understand sometimes it's the best pitch you're gonna get, but oh my goodness, it's like they just rush up there. And it's like, let me just, it drives me up a wall. Buzz, here's a question for you. Which gets figured out first?

Do the Phillies get a center fielder or do the Flyers get a goalie? Well, the Flyers are never allowed to have a goalie for 50 years. So by default, we'll say the center fielder. I mean, it has been a long time. Even, I mean, Odubile was an all-star and he does still have what the longest on base streak in recent history. But he couldn't be a leader. But he was a doable.

He's a doable. I mean, it's been since Victorino. We're going on a decade, decade plus. You don't count Ben Revere? It's 2025, Buzz. They traded Victorino in 2012. They traded Victorino in 2012. Oh my gosh.

Please, Justin Crawford. Please. Oscar Mercado not doing it for you. Just oh god It's excruciating two one five five nine two 94 94 to get in on a brutal night down at the ballpark on the other side the player of the game the pitch counts and One thing that was glaring after tonight. We'll get to all of that coming up next on the final out on Sports Radio 94, WIBA. I'm Jordan Robinson, host of the new podcast,

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Welcome back. It is the final out. Sports Radio 94 at WIP. Jack Fritz hanging out with you here on this Monday night as We react to a excruciating light down the ballpark and excruciating a little stretch here for the Phils They are certainly making They're not exactly Calming everyone down after what happened at the end at the end of last season and There's a lot of people that are incredibly frustrated with where the team is going.

I think there's been increased level of urgency in the clubhouse. But at the same time, they're not exactly producing. And I know that Chase Raid and all that stuff has been the rage. But it's just, it's not leading to a bunch more runs. Like they're getting some base runners, but the runners in squaring position thing is brutal. I mean, the stretch that they're on with, with,

with runs squaring position, I mean, what was it? One for eight tonight. Could have been one for nine. I mean, that's what one for their last 46, 47. I mean, I mean, I think five for the last 46 or 47. That's not acceptable. Again, we're not talking about a lineup that has a bunch of scrubs in it. We're not talking about the 2017 Phillies. This is a lineup that has paid a lot of money, and they're just so feeble on so many nights. I couldn't imagine, and this could easily be the display of the year, of money and they're just so feeble on so many nights.

I couldn't imagine, and this could easily be disproven very quickly, I just couldn't imagine that, having seven extra base hits in a game. That feels foreign to me. When Trey got that base hit with two outs and earned their base after they had failed a couple times before on Saturday, again, you would have thought it was a discovery. It feels like it never happens. And, you know, I mean, Trey is a big part of this.

He's a guy who they paid, obviously, you don't have to bring up the contract all the time with him, but he's paid to be a star and So far he just looks like a pretty good player, you know, I that first inning was exhilarating but it's so many one for fours and one for fives and first pitch swings and like So many pop-ups to the outfield just hit the ball on the ground. I mean or Not to say like hit a line drive, but hit a line drive. I don't know I I think this offense is gonna is gonna drive us up drive us all up a wall. It's it's it's maddening and there's not really a clear way out until maybe the deadline, you know, but Here's to tomorrow. The pitch count is brought to you by the Plumbers Union Local 690.

Protecting the health of the nation. Visit plumbers690.org. Ninety nine pitches for old 99 tonight. Taiwan Walker. And again, you know, I don't want to. I don't feel bad for him. I think the one inning just got away from him. Obviously, the play at second base, not good. You know, allowed a couple of home runs. Other than play at second base, not good. A lot of couple home runs.

Other than that, I mean, he was fine. And I don't think tonight was, oh my God, there's the brutal Taiwan, he's back, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Cause he, after that, he did get back to generating swings and misses and was in the strike zone and took down a couple more innings before they brought in Tanner Banks who again I think would struggle to

get outs in the PSAC. Tanner Banks has just no juice from the left side. No juice. It's just I don't know how he's on a big. I don't know how him and Johan Roas. Tanner Banks is basically what Brad Hand was on the 2022 Phillies. It's not like Brad Hand was good, but if you look at his numbers,

it's like, oh, it wasn't that bad. No, he's bad. Tanner Banks, 100% bad. Both guys, not major league baseball players. There's just, there's not, they're not, they're not. Tanner Banks, absolutely not. But Taiwan, you know, he battled tonight. He mucked and grinded and took down some innings. So, you know, I guess we'll he not been granted and put down some and so

i guess we'll see on next one goes to a five five nights at ninety four ninety four is how you get in ericson contrahok what's happening it's a big problem uh... frustrated that frustrated what what the dentist green say they are we thought they were that's exactly right and there's no surprises here right there are no surprises here we knew we

knew Brandon Marsh and Rojas couldn't play right we knew that we thought I think Rojas you had a better shot at I mean Marsh should be better he just hasn't progressed but yeah I got you better right Rojas we had a better shot at. I mean, Mar should be better. He just hasn't progressed, but yeah, I got you. Should be better, right. Rojas we knew we couldn't hit. Yeah, I agree. And we knew Kepler was just kind of a guy, right? He's okay. He's a guy. Hope for more, but yeah. Right. And we knew that Scott was an okay hitter and a good fielder, but not a great not a not a not a great hitter just an okay hitter And we knew Turner is not gonna look to his contract We need to be a good player, but he's not not not living up to the star status, right? Sure JT we knew was kind of cooked at the plate news. We know he's still good defensively, but he we know he's offensively

He's not the same guy. Not even close to the same guy. So we kind of knew all this stuff. I mean, Harper's Harper, Schwerber's Schwerber. We're good with them. Boom, we knew we had problems at the end of last year. We didn't know the extent of it, I guess. We didn't know it was gonna be this right now. But I just don't see any big surprises. We knew the bull of it, I guess. We didn't know it was going to be this right now.

But I just don't see any big surprises. We knew the bullpen wasn't good enough. Well, but it's just like, all right, so let's say they bring them all back. They should theoretically be getting better at some things. Alec Baum had 97 RBIs last year and is entering into his fifth year in the big leagues. Maybe let's have a leap there. Bryce Astad is entering into his fourth year in the big leagues. Like maybe let's have a leap there.

Bryce Estad is entering into his fourth year. Let's have a leap there, Brandon. Like sure, there's some guys who are getting older, but there should also be enough thump there. You know, Trey's not cucked. The Harper's not cucked. I mean, Cassiom to his credit has had a really good start to the year. Had a big home run tonight.

Like I just put the. I think the frustrating part is that they're back to doing the same chase stuff, the strikeout stuff, and it's just when you see lesser talent have better results, I think that's where the... How many heading into the night, how many Giants players could you name? None. into tonight, like how many Giants players could you name? Like, they're just none. There's no, for most baseball fans, like they're just, there's no one that sticks out over there. And it's just when you see this lineup consistently be so feeble when they have the star power, I think that's where the frustration comes in. Yeah, but we've seen them underachieve last year too. I mean,

especially like guys like Bone. Like, I'm not sure what's up with Bone. He's a good player. He's not he's not a 165 hitter like he is like he's hitting right now. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I don't think Marsh. I don't think Marsh is a major league player. I think he's a I think he's a platoon guy. I think he's a platoon guy. At best, right? Sure. And I think like I said, I think Stott's a decent. I think I think we over a platoon guy. At best, right? Sure. And I think, like I said, I think Stott's a decent, I think we overrated a little bit. A decent player. I don't think he's, you know, a star player by any means.

Well, he's not. And I appreciate the phone call. And sure, I understand that there's a lot, that's how a lot of people felt heading into the season. They are, I don't know. I understand that there's a lot that's how a lot of people felt heading into the season they are I don't know. It's I I I'm so like conflicted on I'm where where I'm at because Like on one hand I get that it's April 14th. I get that it's there there nine and seven You know, I totally get it. But also it's annoying. I mean, it's just straight up annoying. And I think that there is aspects of the team

where the concerns are valid. Like I think there's real concerns here. Do I think Bohm's gonna be a 150 hitter? No. Do I think that, I think Kepler hit some balls hard tonight, which is good. I actually thought that, I thought Bohm had some good at bats tonight.

I thought he actually reacted to a bad strikeout on a bad call in a positive way. I thought that was good. The first inning was awesome. Maybe they stick with the lineup and that kind of gets them going. But again, it's a lot of situational baseball where you can get back to the ball game,

where it just feels like they're coming up small. They've been coming up small for a good stretch here. And like just watching them, they look tight. They look tight and that's concerning. The Play of the Game is brought to you by South Jersey gas conserve Helping customers and the community save energy and money visit South Jersey gas comm slash conserve I will go with Mike yes, Trim ski as the player count speaking of a yes, Trim ski

No, no buzz. I was almost gonna say that that was him on the Carlton Fisk home run I thought I had a perfect segue. It turns out almost dumb guy Jack, but we lock back in now But the jt almost home run followed up by the strikeout on a ball that almost hit the first base dug out Really did and there was a bunch of missed calls tonight From behind the plate really hammered home how I just I could not be looking more forward to the to the abs system It's not perfect. I, I, I get it. But it's a lot better than this.

Oh, and I've been anti robot Robo ops for a while because I do like the human aspect of the game. But man, well we were, it was, it was refreshing. I thought it's spring training. It really was. I was like, wow, this is not bad at all. It doesn't slow down the game. It's pretty quick. I would like umpires to eventually develop an attitude towards it when they get calls, right? Like, yeah, I got that right. Idiot. You know what I mean? Like I, I, I did that. Remember a little bit. Yeah. I want more. I want more attitude. They should bring back Angel Hernandez just to, just to give attitude back. If he just so happens to get a call, right. But I,

tonight really did help. And by the way, totally unfair to put that guy behind the plate in LA his first game back. That's, that's just not right. I mean, we're, we don't need to raise his blood pressure with, with that umpire behind the dish. It was, I mean, we think about our guy LA just one time, just one time, two one five, five nine two 944 to get in. We will get a look to tomorrow and some other final thoughts

here before handing things off to, we got Jody Mack coming up next, Boz. The Monday Night Hang. Oh, that sounds awesome. So we will get to that and a whole lot more coming up next on the final out on Sports Radio 94, WIP. Yeah, I sure feel like I wanted to lose my mind watching the fellas tonight Brutal road trip

Coming home Not making it anymore infuriating We sit here reacting to a 10-4 loss blown open late Tanner banks coming in doing Tanner banks Banks things, Jose Ruiz, not great, and ultimately the offense, a ton of missed opportunities. And yes, it's April 14th, gonna be April 15th when a lot of people listen to this, but man, it is brutal.

Welcome back, it is the final out. Sports Radio 94 at WIP, a couple minutes left here before handing things off to Jody Mack who also have noticed between him and Buzz Wilson, have not bought a book from RingTheBellBook.com. We're monitoring everyone here and don't you worry. We're just going to continue to monitor the Buzz Wilson situation. Will he buy my Philly's book? I don't know. I'm waiting for the actual release.

Do we even want to talk to people who want to read a Phillies book after the summer? I hope so. I hope they, they turn it around here soon, but it's also been a tough stretch here with the offense, tough stretch here with the offense. Bryce is in Lancaster. What's happening, Bryce. What's up Jack? What's going on man? in Lancaster. What's happening Bryce. What's up Jack. What's going on man. Dude I knew this game was over when Castellanos hit that home run. He pimps it and then we let off four runs. It's just every time we go high we just can never hold it. It's always they come back

and get us. It's hard to have any swagger. Trey Turner's given Bryce Harper a blue bat before his first at bat celebrating his child when we should be playing a game. It's just it feels like we can get no momentum and anytime we do it just gets taken away from us. Yeah they certainly they specialize in rally killers you know. I mean I was shocked the first time it worked out the way that it did even that, you know They could have could have added on more but yeah, it's just and and the runners in scoring position thing That's a huge problem I mean they were hot the first like series two series and then they're down and they're close to 100 probably below

200 as a team now, which is that's that's terrible It's like what 20 under 27 28th and baseball with runs scoring position. That's that's that can't happen Bryce Well, it's terrible and Jack I gotta ask you because I don't even know when is the last time our Nine hole hitter even got a hit because I'm looking at other other teams here We might have the worst nine hitter in the whole MLB. I don't know the last time our nine hitters even gotten a hit I can't remember let's I'm trying to think I mean Obviously March is over April. So it's April 14th on play tonight. I I mean maybe Johan mixed in a hit there

But yeah, I mean the production and I appreciate the phone call the production in centerfield the production, and I appreciate the phone call, the production in center field, the production at third base, you know, the production in left field. I mean, it's going on. Thank God, Gassi, I don't have to start the season. He's had, because this is another, wow, this outfield is just not producing at all. Just not producing at all. And we're going to sit here and continue to to just pound our heads against the wall until hopefully they figure it out. Charlie is in Salberry. What's happening, Charlie? Hello. What's up, man?

Hey, hi, Jack. Good evening. Good evening. I called a couple of nights ago about Cody Clements, and I'm calling about Cody Clements again that situation when we had second and third again tonight and Nobody out can't score as usual Johan Rojas comes up Oh for forever You even said earlier tonight. He's very questionable if he's a major league ball player. Not a major league player that's for sure. Why not put Cody in there to hit? It's a right handed pitcher. The guy proved himself to work in the clutch last year. Had

a great spring training. He's putting him in in worthless situations otherwise he's just riding away on the bench. Why didn't he put him in in that situation and let him hit there? Because I think they're trying to stay away from having to play Marsh and let him hit. Well you needed runs there. I agree and I'm frustrated because March ended up coming in the game late anyway to play center field after Cody Clemens pinch hit. So yeah, I think they're after after Cody Clemens pitch hit in the worthless situation again, where when they had second and third nobody out, it could have been a situation where if you got a hit,

yeah, but it scored two runs. Yeah, but they're trying to give Brandon Marsh a couple of days off because if you obviously pinch it Cody Clemens, they have no one to play centerfield besides Marsh. That would be my answer. Do I agree with it Charlie? I don't know if I do but I believe that that is the thought process there. Cody Clemens feels like he barely even plays anymore. I guess there's biting time until Weston Wilson comes back and he can be the ready bench I guess there's biting time until Weston Wilson comes back and he can be there the ready bench

Option, but yeah, I don't know. I don't know tomorrow. Justin Verlander is on the mound For the Giants last outing he got roughed up. He still struck out nine. So don't love that and For the Vils Jesus Lazardo I tell you what of all the the frustrating things from the beginning of this season, Jesus Lazardo has not been one of them. I thoroughly enjoyed watching him, bitch. Obviously the Dodgers outing was electric, and his last outing, didn't think he had his best stuff,

but I thought he battled. And you know, he had that really long at bat to Matt Olson, and then came back after, and the velocity was down a little bit so I'm definitely definitely watching because with him it's it's not quite like Embiid where I'm just So fearful of him getting hurt, but he's someone who's battled injuries the arms electric. I want him to stay healthy But you know, I want to see the velocity tick back up. And I can just chalk last week to being,

he had some long innings, had some stressful outs, and he couldn't recoup that way. So if he's at 95 tomorrow, I'll start to get a little bit concerned. Would definitely like to see him back up in the 96 to 98 range. But hey, maybe they're decreasing velocity to increase command and pitch ability, because that's what Lazard needs to work on,

is becoming more efficient. But man, either way, we will be the afternoon show, I expect, and Fritz, we'll be leading off tomorrow, heading into the game. And then I will have you post-game reacting to hopefully, hopefully what should be a Phil's win. We'll see if they keep it the same lineup.

You know, it was interesting tonight, but again, stop was up in some big situations late and was not able to come through and get the job done. So we'll see what Rob Thompson has cooked up tomorrow. Either way, that's going to do it for me. Jody Mack, he's coming up next.