High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - Final Out: Phillies Go Cold In Game 2 vs Toronto

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Jack Fritz reacts to a frustrating 2-1 loss on Wednesday night in which a Nick Castellanos home run was the Phillies only offense. Presented by Miller LiteTo purchase Ring The Bell by Jack Fritz and... Kevin Reavy go to RingTheBellBook.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:13 not the most inspiring effort up in up in Toronto and one that they easily could have won and They ultimately made little mistakes that that came back to cost them The biggest takeaways the game brought to you by Morgan and Morgan America's largest injury law firm and I know that Jordan Romano didn't have the best knife. I know that Brandon Marsh Could have caught that baseball. I thought that would have been a I Thought it would have been a really, really, really good catch. He traveled a long way to go get it.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I think he got a little shy there with Kepler coming. And I thought he pulled up a little bit. Tonight is totally on the offense. Top of the lineup had one hit. Harper, not great. It kind of looked like he wasn't able to drive the ball. Turned around two strikeouts after the whole, after the station spent the entire day saying,
Starting point is 00:03:12 actually he's underrated. Doesn't mean that he's not. I'm just saying it was, of course, that's how it was going to go. And stopped just a couple couple weak weak pop-ups and Not doing a ton of damage out of the leadoff spot, and I just wonder how long they stick with it You know he's not he's not facing lefties at all He's now being in the leadoff spot. He still does
Starting point is 00:03:42 traditionally foul off a lot of pitches, but man tonight, like nights like tonight, or where it's where that position gets exposed and no bigger example of it, then base is loaded one out and stock gets out instead of doing a job and then Turner gets out instead of doing a job. I mean, that's the difference in the game and that's a spot where the top of the line is up bases loaded the bottom Of the lineup did their job Someone's got to step up in that spot. Someone's got to step up in that spot and and they didn't do it But that was really it. I think they'd take two runners in scoring position
Starting point is 00:04:20 I mean the entire night was it and's that inning. I mean just a a Non-starter non-starter offensively didn't even didn't even get off the bus 215 592 94 94. I mean that's Kind of been the story the last little bit here is offenses is is certainly cooling off now over all their numbers look fine Last night was really good. They did not carry it over from last night tonight. Now, Barrios I thought was solid. Barrios is a quality major league pitcher.
Starting point is 00:04:54 He's really just Aaron Nola. I mean, he takes the ball 32 times a year. He pitches between a 3.5 and a 4 DRA every single year. At this point point his career I'm sure he knows that a pitch and and tonight he was He was he was good. He was dynamite and and the Phillies Did not show up offensively the pitch count is brought to you by the Plumbers Union local 690 protecting the health of the nation
Starting point is 00:05:22 visit plumbers 690 org the health of the nation visit plumbers 690 org 78 pitches for McAble tonight, he looked great again He pitched on four days rest. I believe I saw So, you know, it's not even like he had his his full rest day They got him back up there and to go out there and do that first pitcher and major like 125 years to have back-to-back outings with without a walk and striking out Five plus I mean he it's been a really really impressive start to his career So yet make ables the first pitcher at least in at least the last 125 seasons with five plus in his pitch
Starting point is 00:06:00 No walks and one or zero runs allowed in each of his first two MLB starts that's courtesy of Sarah Lang's so yeah I mean he pitched on four days rest he clearly got tired in that in that inning and he threw the wild pitch that unfortunately allowed the runner to get in scoring position but besides that he was he was great. And what's been so fascinating about, about Mick Able is that his commands been better in the pros than it's been in the minors. I mean, in Lehigh Valley, I don't think he's shown that kind of fastball command.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I thought his fastball command was really, really good again tonight. And what makes his fastball command so interesting to me is that he can throw it to every quadrant of the plate and it's a hard pitch to square up you know like Wheeler has that kind of fastball but what makes Abel so so good so far is that he can get that fastball up without it without losing the stuff. He can get it up with ease.
Starting point is 00:07:08 You don't need to cut that audio bus. But, his ability to command with his fastball so far has been super impressive. He can go up with it, he can go away with it, he can sink it down into right handed hitters off the barrel a little bit. Listen, I think the whole idea with McAbel has been trade bait, trade bait, trade bait. Kid's 23, he's showing some poise. I'm sure the league will adjust to him.
Starting point is 00:07:42 But I think the stuff is the stuff. And it's becoming harder and harder for me. Now, obviously, if it's like you can go get a Pete Fairbanks forum or a Felix Bautista forum or some of these like controllable relievers or even if you could be a headliner of a package for a Jaren Durant. I mean, these are the decisions they're gonna have to make in the next month and a half.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I just don't wanna give Mick Abel away. Like I don't wanna trade Mick Abel for a Carlos Estevez type. I wouldn't even really trade him for Ryan Helsley. And Helsley I think is one of the better closers in baseball but he's not an expiring deal. And my feeling with Mick Abel is, one, he's helping them in the rotation right now.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And two, let's say everyone comes back and they're healthy My feeling with mcable is one he's helping them in the rotation right now and two Let's say everyone comes back and they're healthy and they have like six starters. I Think he could be a weapon out of the bullpen. I mean that stuff in the bullpen could could be something I mean we're watching like Joe Ross have a pretty decent Run here out of bullpen. I think mcable has much better stuff than stuff than Joe Ross so he is continuing to open up eyes and they are in such a a really just Advent Adventages spot with the starting staff listen offense 100% frustrating frustrating night and I get it
Starting point is 00:08:56 Well when you have this rotation, I mean they have the the guys they have so you have you know Wheeler and Sanchez and Lizardo has been great outside of his last start and Rangers been good since coming back. We'll see with Nola. You have Abel looking like the prospect that he was a couple years ago. He looked like a lost cause last year. The guy pitched to a 6.43 ERA in Lehigh Valley last year in AAA. AAA!
Starting point is 00:09:22 And he's doing this in back to back starts. That's impressive. And Andrew Painter, which we'll get to in a little bit, generally regarded as a top five prospect in the sport and a future ace level kind of pitcher. I mean, it is just remarkable the kind of pitching depth they have. But obviously tonight, the story of the night is the offense, however,ick abel Continuing to open eyes, and then I thought one more thing in here before we go to the phones Another big spot for a Ryan Kirkering and
Starting point is 00:09:55 a spot that he was able to really shine in and he has done a Really good job since Jose Avarado went out on the IL or not the IL after he was suspended for 80 games He's just he's just stepped up and they need those guys to step up Romano is going through a little bit of an issue right now, but I still think the stuff is playing for Romano Kirk got him tonight Vlad got him tonight not being able to hold Vlad on first base is actually the bigger issue there for me. I mean, it's Vlad Guerrero Jr. And the fact that Marchand couldn't even make that close
Starting point is 00:10:29 with how good Marchand was behind the dish, that was annoying. I don't think we've seen a stop decline from Romano. Maybe it's just evening out a little bit. And he was touching 98, but the fact that Kirkering is stepping up and I think grabbing the bull by the horns here with Alvarado being out, that's a big development for them.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And they can go and get one guy at the trade deadline and then put one of these starters into the bullpen, but you still need weapons late. And it's nice to see Kirkering maybe developing into a back end of the bullpen option for them. And I know he's done it in years past, but I think he is looking more and more like, OK, this is a guy that can pitch in the eighth
Starting point is 00:11:17 and pitch in the ninth. Whereas I kind of felt as if on a really good bullpen, he's your fourth guy. Because I don't know if I can trust him in big spots he's getting some some opportunities in big spots and I think maybe he's slowing his heartbeat down getting more used to it and we're seeing a better version of Orion Gherkering but either way certainly been exciting stuff with him. 215.592.9494 if you want to react to this one a frustrating night all around
Starting point is 00:11:46 with the offense but some positives on the pitching side. Dave is in Maryland. What's happening Dave? Right, Jack. Just a frustrating offensive night and I think what's more frustrating is the fact that they didn't make any moves in the offseason with the offense, so you're watching the same thing over and over again just with the inconsistency. I mean, Bryson Stott's hitting 249 now, and it's really, I mean, you got to do better when you're in that base load, a out situation and you know at least hit the ball hard somewhere and that it put in the outfield. Get the ball in the outfield just get
Starting point is 00:12:29 the ball in the outfield. He's too good of a bat to ball guy for that to happen. Yeah it's just it's just strange how he gets in these ruts hitting fly balls the left field left side and it's like his back gets lazy and and and he doesn't get out and meet the ball. But you just, do you think Marsh, he needs to catch that, right? Yeah, so I think he, listen, on one hand, I think he had to go a long way to get it, but also the glove was on and he was in position
Starting point is 00:12:59 to make the catch, make the catch. I mean, it's pretty, and especially because what, and any later, he did run down a ball to the opposite side I think he got a little nervous with Kepler Charging hard on that but still yeah, I mean make the catch Make the catch and and like it's just you know you you you've got the pitching the pitching You know Romano aside, you know, like and he was he had good stuff tonight He just he got he left one up and you know Guer Romano aside, you know, like, and he was, he had good stuff tonight. He just, he got, he left one up and, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:27 Guerrero's a great hitter, but the pitching was so good enough to win. And I just hope that that's not the, you know, what, what, it's just the Achilles heel of this team. It's the inconsistent offense. I think more so than the pitching. Yeah. And I appreciate the phone call, Dave. I just, I think the pitching and the bullpen specifically can be fixed
Starting point is 00:13:48 I mean you want to go get a Ross Chapman to be your your your alvarado guy their replacement I think that could happen. I think that could work because he's pitching to a 1-8 He still throws 102 miles an hour he's on no one year dealer red Sox seem like they're a dumpster fire like I know they want today but Regardless you get One of these bullpen arms out there There's gonna be bullpen arms available whether it's you know bednar the pirates Felix Bautista with the Orioles Cano with the Orioles there's there's gonna be a bullpen guy
Starting point is 00:14:16 We know that the bullpen guys are available all the time and then you're gonna put one of the starters in the bullpen The bigger thing is is is finding another real quality, hopefully high quality, major league hitter. And the one guy that Dave didn't mention there is Kepler. I mean, Kepler, I think he's sitting like 175 since the Cubs series. So listen, he plays a great defensive left field, but he's just not contributing at all offensively.
Starting point is 00:14:48 You keep waiting for it, you keep being patient with him, but when you see a guy like Otto Kemp who is having a breakout season with the Iron Pigs, is he going to be able to go out there and be an everyday left fielder? I have no idea. I haven't watched every... I mean, he's just started playing the position this season. He's traditionally been more of an infielder. He's probably a first baseman, but can he stand out there? Sure.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I think so. I just, there needs to be, and especially with what Crawford is doing. Crawford had two more hits tonight. Now they're both singles, but he's hitting over 330 something. So I don't know. He's a hard eval because again, he's hitting the ball on the ground at a 60 plus percent rate So he's not like a perfect prospect But again like you're getting no production from from center field and left field again by the way and gassing after the home run tonight
Starting point is 00:15:38 That was great. But it's not like you're getting a Ridiculous amount of production from right field I mean they're gonna have to get creative here at the trade deadline to add a bat. I mean, I'll keep pushing for Reece Hoskins. I know for some people that's very hard to grasp. I still am not totally sure why, unless we wanna just pretend that like every baseball
Starting point is 00:16:00 has hit a first baseman the entire night. But regardless, they're gonna need to go out and add some kind of bat, especially because JT's had a brutal offensive year. We just talked about center field. The top four, you feel pretty good about. Boom, I guess you feel all right about. But still, if they can add one more legit, legit bat
Starting point is 00:16:22 would change a lot for this team. 215, 592, 94, 94 to get in. Adding if they can add one more legit legit bat would change a lot for this team 2 1 5 5 9 2 94 94 to get in on the other side an Interesting development down in Charlotte tonight. Listen, we're getting back-to-back iron pigs reports here on the the final out because there are important stuff happening Down there plus we'll get to the player of the game as well all that's come up next on the final out on sports radio 94 WIP it's the summer big red sale at Canadian Tire. Save up to 50 percent. What are you doing? These are the biggest deals of the season. I'm shouting it from the rooftop. You have a radio ad. You don't need to be up there.
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Starting point is 00:17:40 It stayed in play, but plenty deep enough to win it for the Jays. And they come running out of the dugout to celebrate with Kirk as they beat their former closer, Jordan Romano tonight. Two to one, the final is the Phillies lose the walk off. Yeah, they sure did. Alejandro Kirk, the whole time I was thinking during that at bat, I mean, obviously Kirk had caught Romano a lot and I felt I felt as if Romano was a little bit too concerned of He knows what I'm he knows all my tendencies now. It's he's a two-pitch pitcher. So it's not like you know
Starting point is 00:18:20 There's only was so many ways you can skin a cat But I felt like he was overthinking that a little bit because he felt as if Alejandro Kirk kind of knew what his game plan was. I thought when it was 1-2 he had an opportunity for a slider away and he went back up with a 98-mile-an-hour fastball and I just, I think he got a little bit, I think he got a little bit too cute, but either way he is our player the game Which is brought to you by South Jersey gas conserve helping customers and the community save energy and money visit South Jersey gas Com-slash conserve Alejandro Kirk, but walk off winter tonight up in Toronto. Bill is in East Hampton. What's happening bill? Hey, how you doing tonight? I'm doing alright. How about you? This one hurt Jack. Oh my god Once one strike or one strike away. Yeah, I thought I thought when he punched out that the batter for a second I thought we were good. Then he got two strikes on I'm not even gonna mention his name belted her off the wall
Starting point is 00:19:21 But it's just we were so close, but I want to stay on the positive of this Nick Abel start was fantastic It was I know you know given the the Bichette triple I know but he pitched great for six innings Well, I did a positive thing and he didn't walk anyone and I think he had like a 70 plus percent Strike rate and he's getting ahead. I think he's just moxie Listen, he was pitching on four days rest which you're asking a 23 year old and a second majorly start to do that It's a pretty big ask. So I think that explains why the why the Command went away in that in that sixth inning, but still I he makes that pitch to Bichette now was 3-0 whatever he made he had a good swing on it but what Marsh
Starting point is 00:20:09 also could have caught that baseball I mean he could have caught that baseball and who knows how the rest of the game goes so he is really really opening some eyes here he had absolutely no run support I thought Aaron noble was in the game he had so little run support I know know. I know. I tell you what, it's refreshing watching a guy that has 97 in his back pocket versus when Nola's nibbling at like 91. He looks great, man. He looks great. I thought Kirk Ring showed some things. Straum had a nice bounce back. It's those three guys that you're going to have to trust. Even Tanner Banks. I don't want to get too ahead of myself with Tanner Banks because I don't see it, ahead of myself with Tanner Banks, because I don't see it.
Starting point is 00:20:46 But he's taking down some good innings for them so far this year, Bill. Yeah, I think it's time to put Able in the starting rotation. I think we probably need to trade to Juan Walker for a bag of stocks or whatever we can get. But I think it's time for him to have a solidified position in the starting rotation.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Well, and I appreciate the phone call there, Bill. Nola seems like he's going to miss more time. I guess he had a side issue today. That one feels a little fishy. I mean, the ankle was one thing. I kind of bought it. Side issue? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I don't know about all that. But, but... I think Real Muto has a front issue. I don't know. I don't know about all that, but, um, but think real mutual has a front issue. Yeah. Real Muto might have a front issue at first. Listen, I don't know. I know there's a lot of talk about retaliation last week with the, with the brave series in 2020, they took down Jose Alvarez where the blue J's did. And now tonight, I mean, Jose Alvarez, I mean,ays did and now tonight I mean Jose Alvarez I mean that guy's I think his soul was lost in that mound in Buffalo in Buffalo and for
Starting point is 00:21:52 those of you who have no idea what we're talking about which really shows how far he'd come from Phillies baseball now buzz you I think you probably remember this but the Laska's blew that game too, right? That was when they're trying Velasquez in a reliever role, and I think he came in after Alvarez did that. Yeah, so for those who don't remember, the Blue Jays in 2020 played in Buffalo, and Jose Alvarez got smoked on a comebacker
Starting point is 00:22:24 where the sun don't shine and he had to get taken off in a cart and everyone, every guy felt his pain. And with JT tonight it was an immediate similar reaction and that's a guy who, I mean he'll battle through anything. He's a super super top filly uh... but man that uh...
Starting point is 00:22:50 and immediately every every guy watching the games like the there's a big grown apparently the frauds are center so i hope jt is ok and we like to joke about that area kills man that absolutely kills so hopefully hopefully he's fine but the fact they need to leave the game because of it that's a little worrisome so I guess Rob Thompson didn't really have an update I guess I'll know more
Starting point is 00:23:15 tomorrow I would certainly expect that they got a nice pack for him and Marshawn's probably catching tomorrow. To answer your question Alvarez got hit in the front end of a doubleheader, Velasquez sucked in the back end of the doubleheader. Nice, nice. And the worst doubleheader ever played in baseball history. Well, yeah. I mean, they had some real drama in minor league ballparks that year. You had that and then you had Seguro versus Girardi down in Dunedin, also against the
Starting point is 00:23:43 Blue Jays. That was, was that not also, was that in Dunedin or Buffalo? I thought that was in Dunedin for some reason, but I might be wrong. I think- I thought that was the same trip. Hey listen, it could have been the same trip. It was in a minor league baseball park.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I, for some reason, thought the Segura blowup was in Dunedin, but I could have been wrong about that. But either way, against the Blue Jays in a minoriley Park, Jose Alvarez's career was over, Vince Velasquez as a reliever blew up in their face, and Segura and Girardi were... Segura was May of 21 in Dunedin, the doubleheader from hell was August of 2020 in Buffalo. Glad we cleared that up. We're about accuracy at this hour. I'm glad we cleared up that issue. The worst trips ever in baseball history. And you know that, you know, there's a lot of fans came back in 2022, so many people
Starting point is 00:24:34 have done that. If you weren't slugging it out in August of 2020, and through that Buffalo doubleheader, you don't get the root for this team now. That's exactly right. So speaking of a minor league ballpark, Andrew Painter pitched tonight down in Charlotte. He got hit around a little bit. It was a disconcerting effort tonight for Andrew Painter. Four earned allowed.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I think he walked four as well. Now what was interesting is his fastball velocity was up. He came out pumping 100, which was good to see. But he didn't really throw it that often. And what I was wondering or thinking about was, they feel like the fastball's in a good spot. He has to work on his secondaries before he gets called up. I know Dave Nebrowski's down there watching him.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Maybe that's Kavan from up top, no idea. But maybe he had to work on it. They wanted to work on his off-speed pitches because the fastball is in a pretty good spot. And that's why he got hit around. But he allowed two home runs tonight and didn't really go super deep in the ball game. They lost tonight down in Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:25:42 But again, Crawford had two hits. So I guess it evens out But either way and Japan are not exactly the the most crisp outing tonight down in Charlotte on the other side will get your phone calls as well But also a look ahead to tomorrow before we wrap things up here on the final out on sports radio 94 WIP I smell a Twitter poll going around the horn Which one was worse Alvarez in 2020 or JT tonight buzz on record saying Alvarez Franski on record saying Alvarez. I think it was JT. There were questions whether Alvarez would walk again
Starting point is 00:26:21 Did he pitch in the big leagues again after that. But he tried to make the play too. He died a hero. I mean, I hope that whatever happened downstairs didn't die a hero as well. But at least on the mound he died a hero. It reminded me of when, man, we were just, this whole thing is just derailed. But a 2-1 loss whatever it reminded me of when when when Velasquez got hit in the arm and threw it left-handed
Starting point is 00:26:51 at first base it was the coolest thing I think I've ever seen on a baseball field the Vince Velasquez how about Velasquez gunning a runner from left field I the left-handed throw was way cooler the left-handed throw was pretty cool way cool but he was he was a freak athlete. He just couldn't Get out of the fifth inning like that was the issue Did Vince Velasquez was great at everything but but pitching? Everything Alvarez did pitch a couple years for the Giants point three for oh man the Gabe now that was before Gabe left No, that was no Gabe had him. Absolutely. Yeah. Wow, you're two three for Gabe in
Starting point is 00:27:28 67 games and in 2021. So hey a lot of two ball counts That's a bounce back performance and nice nice nice job bus. Nice job. All right, Josh is in fearless hills. What's happening Josh? What's up, Jack? How's it going? I'm good, man. How are you pretty good hanging in there? What's up, Jack? How's it going? I'm good, man. How are you? Pretty good. Hanging in there. Listen, to say tonight was frustrating
Starting point is 00:27:47 would be a huge understatement. And I couldn't agree with you more that it all falls on the offense. I mean, obviously, what much more can we ask out of McAbel, right? Oh, he's been great. He's been absolutely great. And again, I think he's going to make a couple more starts here.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I mean, Nola doesn't seem like he might be three or four starts away, frankly Like that's fine with me like I know it was an excruciating watch. So Yeah, he's he's he's certainly opening some eyes and dude I think I think if he's here past the trade deadline and they are in a good spot starting wise him in the bullpen could Be a real weapon You can't ask for more, you know, it's a good problem to have, or you know, a good, can't get enough elite starting pitching, right? For sure, for sure.
Starting point is 00:28:32 What else stuck out to you? I was going to say, I wanted to point to a specific moment in the game, top of the ninth when Castellanos came up. I think he got up 3-1 on Hoffman. I do not under, and I know, you know, maybe it's easier said than done. I don't, these guys get paid so much money. How do you take that 3-1 pitch when he is just spamming you sliders? I don't understand that. Well, and then when he grounded out weakly to the shortstop. Yeah, dude. I mean, I know hitting's hard, and I appreciate the phone call.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I thought they had Hoffman in a pretty good spot, and they weren't able to capitalize. But yeah, I mean, when Cassie's in that mode, now same time he hit the home run earlier. But when he's in that mode, now same time he had the home run earlier, but when he's in that mode of like, just reaching his arm out and making contact, it's definitely a frustrating one. I don't know if Josh did it on purpose by the way,
Starting point is 00:29:32 but he started the call with hanging in there. Yeah, see, you're the wrong guy to have on after that game like that. I mean, JT's going through a lot. He's going through a lot tonight, and you're just making fun of him. The tone of the show needs to get more serious, is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:29:45 Yeah, you're making fun of him. You know, he's as a fellow guy, Buzz. As a father. Yes, yes, as a father. You know, you're taking a lot of joy in JT getting smoked. JT never leaves a game. By the way, he left what, one year after it after a collision at home plate That's really it though. I mean the guys the guys were even though offensively hasn't exactly been
Starting point is 00:30:11 The the best that mean DJ Stubbs is back tomorrow Yeah, how they gonna be like get him up from Charlotte. I mean it's a morning flight you could do it Yeah, come on Stubbsy. Welcome back. Welcome back All right. Tomorrow, speaking of tomorrow, Lazardo on the mound versus Chris Bassett. Chris Bassett, overall, been fine this year. His ERA is like 3.8 something, 3.5 something.
Starting point is 00:30:35 But last two outings, five earned in each of those. And Lazardo, obviously, a huge bounce back start. I mean, 12 earned is still shocking took his ERA from 2 to 3 and a half I Didn't look up the numbers, but he had to allow more earned runs in that one start that he'd allowed all year But yeah, he I Just I don't want that outing to be the one that I just, I don't want that outing to be the one that costs them money at the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:31:06 It could cost them an all-star game, could, God forbid, cost them a Cy Young thing. I mean, hopefully it's used as a flush at start, but you definitely don't, you want to see him get back on the horse. You want to see him get back on the horse. You don't want to see it snowball and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, do we have to worry about Jesus Lizardo? I don't want to worry about Hazus Lizardo. He's been too good for this team, but I expect him to go out there and get back on track.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I think LA mentioned today, big, big advanced metrics guy, big exit velocity guy, LA said that the average exit velocity off of Hazus Lizardo last hour was like 82 miles an hour. He didn't get smoked. I mean the recent runs happened. One of them felt a bit wind-aided, but whatever. You know, Castellanos dropped the ball that he could have gotten to stock, got to or wasn't able to go get to a ball that I think he could have gotten to. It was a sloppy, sloppy overall game for the Fills. So Not much for me to be concerned about with Hazel's Lazzardo but Definitely want to see him get right back on it and get back to what we've seen for a majority of this season
Starting point is 00:32:13 Definitely want to get him through the two straight outings of first inning was three earned against the A's and then obviously Four in its last timeout. So need to get Lazzardo back track. That's going to do it for me. Buzz produced tonight. Who do we got coming up next? Buzz? Got Ashlyn Sullivan standing by. Ashlyn Sullivan will take you through the rest of the night. All right, cool. That's going to do it for me. Be back with you for leading off tomorrow. And of course the final out as well. Thanks for hanging out. Ashlyn Sullivan will take you through the rest of the night here on sports radio 94 WIP.

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