High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - High Hopes Chapter 2: Chase Utley Will Be A Hall of Famer
Episode Date: December 21, 2023James Seltzer and Jack Fritz discuss Chase Utley's performance on the Hall of Fame ballot in his first year of eligibility. Presented by Miller Lite. To learn more about listener data and our privac...y practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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All right.
I feel like we have a long talk.
Hold on.
Let's guess.
Let's guess.
I'm going to guess we're at 36 minutes.
I was going to say 36 minutes.
Were you really?
We're at 34 minutes.
Not too bad.
All right.
Take back.
I feel like we made it.
We made it we made it
is Chase gonna be
a Hall of Famer
dude so yes
100%
he's not gonna get in
this year
but like Chase Utley
is gonna get above
50% this year
no player has ever
gotten what Chase
has gotten in his
first year on the ballot
and not gotten in
the Hall of Fame
like Chase Utley
is going in
thank you
I meant to
that was the one
thing I meant to
Chase Utley
will be a Hall of Famer
I'm very proud
me too
I'm proud of the voters
like for him to be this high as for like,
I would guess he'd be in the twenties.
He's like,
what's he tracking now?
Like sixties.
I guess when you share the 50s,
sixties,
I guess when you put out the stat that he had the second highest war in
baseball from oh five to 14,
I guess now,
now broadly,
I'm very pro war.
Yeah.
Pick and choose,
pick and choose.
I will say,
I think the voting, you know, they've done a lot to change the voting body
in the Hall of Fame, and it started to veer more towards people who think in a little
bit smarter way and people who really cover the sport and all that.
Dude, dude, seven.
All right.
Counting stats matter for the Hall of Fame.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
Long Japanese matters.
You got to play.
You got to do that stuff.
But like seven year peak should matter the most.
I'm with you, dude. It should matter the most. matter the most again it goes back to my foals argument like i'm you know i i am fine
saying someone's better than someone else even if they didn't do it nearly as long because the
peaks they hit mattered the most to me i've gotten over and i've gotten over the falls i'm really
happy i appreciate falls now oh what i'm so happy yeah thank you that makes my soul happy because i
this current team i'm not a huge fan of.
Yeah, I get it.
We can tell.
Everyone can tell.
This is not breaking news to anybody.
They bother you.
They bother me a lot.
Yeah.
And Nick just went about his business.
He's a great guy.
And it's funny.
I'm a bits guy.
Yeah.
Come on.
The Foles bit is the all-time bit in Philly.
I've also...
I think the Tush Bush is nonsense.
But I've given up the Tush Bush. Firing off the takes. bush is nonsense but i've given up the tush firing off
the takes i love it i've given up on it yeah it's funny it's funny so i'm at the point with
this place where the hate fuels me like i i i think it's the greatest play in the i don't think
people really hate it anymore though i think it's kind of going around the other way yeah everyone
like eight man on monday night was like i want to see it stick around. Great. But yeah, like the chase thing.
I'm surprised.
I'm surprised.
I'm shocked.
He's this high.
Shocked.
Good.
And Jimmy's like 20 something or whatever.
He's like way above Jimmy.
And I think he should be all of him above Jimmy.
But like, it's at least I think closer than the numbers are.
I mean, I'm surprised he's as far out front.
If you look at J.
Roll's counting stats, it's like, well, he should probably be higher.
That's why most people argue it.
It's like, yeah, watch the game. higher. That's why most people argue it.
Watch the game.
No, I love Jimmy.
I hope Jimmy gets in.
I'm not sure he's going to get in.
I don't think Jimmy is going to get in.
I am glad that Utley is moving in that direction.
We're going to go to Cooperstown.
We're going.
I care more about going to Cooperstown
for Utley's Hall of Fame than London.
Agree.
I mean, obviously nothing about the playoff games.
Still would go to London.
Still would definitely go to London.
There you know.
Rod Lakin, if you're listening, I've had many people say that I hope Spodger go to London.
So I just want that to be in the universe.
Have you been to London?
I have.
You seem like a London guy.
I've been to London. You seem like a London guy. I've been to London.
You seem like an England guy.
I've been to London.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
An Anglophile?
Is that what it was?
My dad was a big Anglophile.
You know who's an Anglophile?
Peter Seltzer.
My brother,
big time Anglophile.
Don,
what is that?
Someone who loves England.
Oh.
Okay.
Yeah,
I don't know what that means.
Obviously not.
Yeah.
I would like to go to England.
It's a cool place.
Yeah.
Only to see Dave Shaw.
There's a number one reason.
Like he's infiltrated this city too much.
Oh, yeah.
It's time for us to take over there.
Yeah, 100%.
Dave Shaw, one of the few people I could text and gets back to me.
My work schedule.
All right.
Like Dave and I text like four in the morning.
He's awake.
It's lovely.
It's it.
Let me tell you, the joy of getting a response at four in the morning is a really beautiful thing yeah yeah
i feel like you're alone in the i wasn't bad at 4 a.m on monday yeah oh because the game yeah yeah
um but yeah so oddly he seems like he's trying towards the hall of fame which is
i'm proud of everyone so uh and i i can't wait i would 100 i would guess like three four years
now i'll get perfect yeah bring walk bring walk let him know first trip to the hall of fame this I can't wait. I would 100%. I would guess like three or four years from now. Perfect. Yeah. Bring Walk.
Bring Walk.
Let him know.
Well, first trip to the Hall of Fame.
This is the guy.
This is the guy.
Love it.
This is the guy.
So, yes.
I'll leave it up to him.
Then you can tell him Tyrone Walker and say you're named after him.
Exactly.
So, yeah.
Good.
Yeah, exactly.
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Signed Baseball by Walker Bueller.
Do you really? Yeah.
What do you do with that, huh?
It's a cool one to have
if he stays healthy. He's great.
But if they face the Phils on the
playoff series,
I might run it.
I can't wait. I need a Phils Dodgers NLC series, it might burn it. Yeah, it might burn it.
I can't wait.
I need a Phils-Dodgers-NLC.
I know you do.
After you beat the Braves, of course,
because that's what we do. Watching Shohei DH in the playoffs,
that would be sweet.
That would be awesome.
Yoshi versus Shohei.
Yoshi versus Shohei.
Don't join that team, Yosh.
Come on, man.
Do you want to be the second Japanese guy on a team,
or do you want to be the Japanese icon of a japanese icon of a city correct icon on the biggest stage on the bay on this
state where people care all right like where we actually come to games and cheer for you yeah
it's not yankee stadium with a morgue of a freaking awful yeah yankee stadium uh it's not
yankee stadium it's it's new yankee stadium come on so come on now um and then and then the final thing
i guess is did you appreciate the standing the kind of standing over the eagles outside the
nova care today so have you gone too far yeah so the standing out thing went too far like you know
months ago when it was like every city it was like like zach wilson whenever it was at salacata
that's when it went too far whatever the standing standing. That was Spike. I love Sal.
Sal's great.
I think he does a really good job up there.
That was what.
How would you know?
I've heard Sal before.
All right.
It's not like I listen all the time.
You don't listen to Rick.
I'm not like you.
I listen to every cut station in the country and it's like a radio nut or nerd or whatever.
Yeah.
I still listen here and there and I think Sal's very good.
I agree.
Whatever.
I think he's very good.
But I think that was the moment.
I'm not ripping him.
I'm just saying when it was the let's do it for Zach Wilson.
Rip Spike.
It's all Spike's fault.
I mean, Spike just, all he does is steal our bits from here.
It's like he keeps his brain.
I see the top five.
What's that?
Box off, by the way.
It's called B-A-C-H.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
There's so many.
You know what else they're doing?
Oh, free throw competition.
Where have I heard of that?
Oh, okay.
Cool. Cool. Unbelievable. Got it. Yeah. But regardless, whatever. You know what else they're doing? Oh, free throw competition. Where have I heard of that? Oh, okay. Cool.
Cool.
Got it.
Yeah.
But regardless, whatever.
You have your little thing.
That was the moment, though, when it was for Zach Wilson.
I was like, all right, we've jumped the shark.
Again, the key to it.
Let me just bring you inside the psyche here.
You got to choose the right player.
You know what I mean?
Zach Wilson never had a chance.
No.
That's the thing.
The ovation is only a thing if the guy plays better.
That's the whole key. And if the guy's already been
one of the best players. Yeah, of course.
Of course.
Look, here's what I'll say.
Here's what I'll say.
And I don't know if it's a bit or whatever,
but the idea of cheering for the Eagles
right now, I'm fine with that.
The reason I love the Turner thing, the idea of cheering for the Eagles right now, like I'm fine with that. Like I,
the reason I love the Turner thing,
the heart of it to begin with is that like,
I do believe that it is never wrong to like want to cheer your team.
Like I'm, I'm okay with that,
but enough of the other thing.
So yeah,
we can't bring it back.
We're done.
Next year is the,
no,
it's done.
There's been a lot of requests
yeah no it's not how this works it's not this works it's okay it's organic it was it was good
it was good it worked it was magic it worked i don't want to do it again nope nope it was
it was a lot it's a lot that a lot that uh you know yeah yeah it's all good um yeah so that's
all i got