High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - High Hopes Chapter 2: Will Aaron Nola Be Back in 2023?
Episode Date: November 1, 2023James Seltzer and Jack Fritz discuss the Phillies future with Aaron Nola and the options for their bullpen. Presented by Miller Lite. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visi...t: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'd probably just re-sign Nola,
but the Burns trade is 100% going to be on the table, I think.
And then I'm becoming more intrigued,
although you know me, I've long thought he's on fraud
watch tyler glass now sitting right now right right there well he had that quote during the
playoffs of being i know look at philly that's pretty cool i know and he's so enticing it would
be nice to have robert j hoppenheimer here pitching for the team. Dude, it's wild how much he looks like him. Him and Killian Murphy look exactly the same.
It is like – so I've known, obviously, a movie guy,
Killian Murphy, for a while.
The first time I saw Tyler Glass now, I was like, whoa,
that dude's like Killian Murphy.
That's crazy.
He looks exactly like him.
And now Oppenheimer's huge, and it's like, oh, look at that.
It's eerie.
Yeah.
I guess my main reason why I wouldn't trade for him is like
i can't have movie james activated at all yeah it's good like i just it's a disaster for you
yeah it's just i i so don't care at all like zero at all about movies and it will physically pain me
to sit through every conversation that we have here's why i'm
gonna have a much more rational reason he's hurt all the time like i just i can't do it i i can't
go for marinola who would say what you want about him will literally pitch every fifth day every
single start every single time during the year to a guy it's like wow you look good for three
starts and now he's out for six weeks oh he's back for four starts he's out for two weeks like can't do it yeah i guess my i guess the main the very good
the main thing here is that have no fear dombrowski's gonna get someone here even if if
noah leaves if noah leaves yeah it would be a shame but i would be again like this is a world
series window they all know it's world series Series window. Even at the cost prospects, they will get a legitimate number two starter in here.
It will not be Ranger.
So I guess we need to get that out of the way now, James,
because we're going to deal with a lot of question marks about, oh, he knows.
He's got it.
I like how many times you've impersonated fans like random.
We've done a lot of like, it's been good.
Even,
even on your game with that today.
Cause they make me so mad.
Maybe so mad.
Um,
their chase rates in the last,
do we have to like 58% for the right hand hitters?
It's great.
Just,
it looked like a hundred as far as, Oh, they chased every pitch, every, every single pitch hitters. That's great. It looked like 100 as far as I know.
Oh, they chased every pitch, every single pitch.
Yeah, 100%.
I can't.
I can't.
I might need to unfollow and block them just to get it out of the way.
Don't want to do the Tywon Walker Twitter experience for the offseason.
Just no interest. he's working out did
you know great awesome i'm glad he's liking tweets about the manager when you were at the
emptiest 15 wins of my entire life it's like bro honestly i'm not gonna curse i almost said go
bleep yourself but that's what i was thinking go bleep yourself like you're a fine pitcher honestly
for for the money like it's annoying baseball nerd
stuff but like he was fine you know like he probably you know what he gave them was probably
worth what they paid him even though you wouldn't think it like it may be a little less but like
you were clearly not one of the four best starters like anyone with eyes knew you weren't one of the
four best starters and like hey guess what if you want to pitch in the postseason, learn how to warm up in five minutes instead of in an hour.
All right?
That's it.
Learn how to be like if they need you in the seventh inning, guess what?
You can be ready in five minutes to pitch in the seventh inning.
You need an hour to warm up or whatever.
Sorry, dude.
Like, you weren't one of the four best starters.
Like, you should be thankful you were on the, on the fricking roster,
much as whining about it.
Like be better,
be better.
That's my,
and look,
I have no problem with a competitor being angry about not getting a chance
to perform or whatever.
I love that.
Like be pissed about it.
Like don't do it that way,
pal,
like go in and work your butt off and whatever and be better.
Don't freaking make it a public thing like a little loser.
Like, that really, not a fan.
Not a fan, Taiwan.
Be better.
Do you want me to tell you the score of the Rangers-Dynebacks game
in the third inning tonight?
I'm not paying attention.
Do you want to know the score?
Well, now that you told me, sure.
Go ahead. It's 10-0 Rangers
in the third.
In a bullpen
game. I just would like that to be pointed out.
Wouldn't that be nice? So the Rangers up
2-1 in Arizona.
Chance to put your freaking
foot on their throats!
Boom.
I'm a real Ranger fan, sorry. and a chance to put your freaking foot on their throats. Boom. Fucking, I wish we were Rangers fans.
Sorry.
Can you believe we're here saying,
I wish we were Rangers fans?
Like, how?
How?
No one in the history of baseball has said,
I wish I were a Rangers fan.
No.
Nope.
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
Nope.
On a positive note, on a positive note, I want to lay this out there.
If Nick Foles can come back and help the Eagles win a Super Bowl.
If Robert Covington can come back and help put the Sixers over the top.
Oh, is that what's going to happen with the Sixers?
Everyone listen to Clap Your Hands Pod.
Check it out.
Yes.
You sound like your co-host.
Oh, they're going to win.
Then if you can get Rocco back and you can get Foles back,
I need Hector Neris back.
I just think if there's ever anyone
series champs if we had actor if we just give an actor two years 10 million like the astros game
instead of signing craig for one year 10 we'd be well familia i mean it was familia but that was
last year and then craig i know i'm just it was 10 million it was 10 million well i'm just making sure that we have all our our our tax covered here yeah yeah we have a world series title with actor
with actor yes bring back if everyone if we can bring back our goats of bad teams and and help
them win championships um i just want to bring back hector. Hector's good. Like, I watched far too many Astros games this year
than I probably should have.
Hector's good.
Like, that dude gets out.
Fully in on Hector still.
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And speaking of what you just brought up,
and I'm glad that you brought it up.
That's why you're a total pro
and why I respect you as a man.
I would like to address Clap Your Hands.
Okay, good.
I was going to wait until the very end to bring it up,
but I saw an opportunity, so I threw it in there.
Good.
So I would like to address Clap Your Hands. Good. So I would like to address copyrights.
Yeah.
So I finally feel a little bit free in being able to admit that I love basketball.
Oh, wow.
Look at you.
I'm happy for you.
And I watch a lot of basketball, and I care a lot of basketball and I care a lot about basketball
so
Elliot and I
have
Elliot and I
have made it our goal
to save the Sixers
oh good
I love that you're starting with a bet
that's great
I started well again life's a bet oh good I love that you're starting with a bit that's great this is very
I started well again life's a bit so Elliot's I feel like Elliot's so caught off guard a bit
by the bits yeah most things are are all bit related um so if if you want like i i promise you that if you're listening to clap your hands
it doesn't mean that i don't love the phillies because there's nothing i don't think you need
to do this i think people know you still love the phillies it's okay well there's nothing because
there's nothing in my life that that brings me more love and happiness and also torture than the phillies nothing will ever ever replace that
um i just really like basketball and i really want to talk about basketball and i love that
you feel like you have to explain to people like hey guys well because every time i posted it's
like well what about i hopes and like what about the phillies like yeah i can do both yeah i do
two pods it's all good guys yeah but everyone knows that you don't care about the Phillies? It's like, yeah, I can do both. Yeah, I do two pods. It's all good, guys.
Yeah, but everyone knows that you don't care about the Eagles,
and they're fraudulent, and they have a noodle-armed quarterback.
Like, everyone's under the same kind of.
The 2023 MVP of the league right there, watch it.
No, we're not talking about that ever again.
Only the Sixers were like the Eagles, you know what I'm saying?
Well, the Sixers are back, by the way.
Big day.
Am I going to have to fight you and Nelly and the Sixers now?
Well, I think I talk about them in a more rational way. Reasonable way?
Yes, I agree.
Yes, yes.
So does everybody, to be fair.
Yeah.
So, anyway, if you want like pretty good, like I'm not going to say
they're not like
like kind of OK.
Sixers dog.
Check us out.
I think it's it's it's
it's OK.
Yeah.
I'll put it this way.
If you if you're looking
for like three to zone
breakdown usage and like
PR and UCLA cuts
were not the podcast.
Strictly big.
We are
big picture people.
No minutia
at all. Zero.
I'm here for the breakdowns.
We'll talk about pitching.
Yeah, exactly.
By the way, speaking of pitching breakdowns, if you'll talk about pitching and yeah exactly by the way speaking of pitching
breakdowns if you want to see what what like peak fritz look like oh yeah sure watch merrill kelly
i mean that's that's why i was so afraid of him that's why i was so afraid of him because i know
what i was like in the postseason never lost um and i was like see that's that's what we can't have is is losing to me
essentially in the post great any war 29 which is makes it even worse because that's a ruin my
high school my college career was wearing 29 and keystone light um so 29 then the keystone
yeah then drinking beer yep um so i'm glad that i i got the the clap your hand stuff
off my off my chest i'm happy if you felt like you needed to i'm happy you did everyone just
listen to the pod it's jack well it's just like it i've i don't think people realize how much i
like i watch a sicko amount of basketball you. I know you text me about it all the time.
I was watching Magic Lakers until 1230 last night.
Sounds horrible.
Well, as long as Walker couldn't sleep.
I do that with baseball.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, listen, I got Monday to make.
Anyway.
It's true.
Two final things here.
There's more. Good. Yeah, there things here. There's more.
Good.
Yeah, there is more.
There is more.
And full disclosure, very dumb of me to wait until an hour and four minutes into a podcast that no one's going to listen to.
Yeah.
Like, you've done this whole – it's not you.
It's the Phillies.
Okay.
I was so confused. I was like,
Oh,
I wait an hour and four to like rip me.
Cool.
Can't wait.
Good.
Like you,
you've just,
you've signed one year closer deals for the last three years,
like can able and Kimbrough and whoever was before that,
like it's time.
Like invest in a freaking closer man
like enough with the
one year 10 million dollar deal for a guy
who's probably cooked and then by the playoffs
or by the September it's like
well we gotta have someone else because this guy
can't close just go get a guy
like if it's David Bednar
it's David Bednar whatever like you
or maybe it's
Kirkering like maybe it's Kirkering. Maybe it's Kirkering.
I know people are down on Kirkering because he had a bad...
He was a rookie in that spot.
He jumped five levels.
He's 22 years old.
Let the kid develop a little bit before we're like, this kid can't pitch.
I just...
If you're going to do the Alvarado thing where you use them all around, that's fine.
Just have the set closer.
that's fine just have the set closer
have a set closer somewhere
that for the last
six outs
if needed I can turn to that guy
and 90%
of the time he's going to come through
because that was not Craig Kimbrell
fully agree on this
you have to
outside of getting a number two
and getting someone that can really pitch in that spot and whatnot,
get a freaking closer that I can turn to and say,
go get me three outs to close out a ballgame.
Because if they had that, I mean, think about the last two postseasons.
It's Kimber who can't pitch in the postseason, and it's Zac Eflin.
Like, are you serious?
It's crazy.
Go get a freaking closer.
I'm not saying that you have to do the Papelbon contract.
I don't care.
Trade real assets.
Do what you have to do.
Invest in the spot because it's cost you two straight years.
And it's cost you two straight years and it's time like if there's ever a time to get a lockdown freaking no doubt about it closer it's now and again
full disclosure it might be kirkering it might be kirkering i think he has closer mentality i think
he does but like i i just this is so dumb it's just so dumb
that we're still doing this
get a real freaking closer
yeah I got nothing to add
fully fully agree
thank you