High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - Jim Konstanty Has to Be On The Phillies Wall of Fame

Episode Date: March 5, 2021

James Seltzer and Jack Fritz react to a monster day of Phillies Spring Training baseball. The guys discuss what they've seen from the Phillies so far in Spring Training, including a drubbing of the Ne...w York Yankees. James and Jack also begin the Jim Konstanty campaign, talk about Brandon Kintzler coming in hot, and much more. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:11 An edition when the Phillies dominated today, Jack. I'm guessing you're fired up after what we saw today. Listen, I'm so happy that it makes up for Cole Hamels blowing the 2009 World Series. Yeah, we're good. I'm all good with Cole now. We've all made up. We're all good. So, yes, drubbing the Yankees 15-0.
Starting point is 00:01:41 We talked in the past of we don't like having TVs on at work, right? I mean, we're doing our shows. Yes, we are focused. We're locked in, distracting. But then I saw Matt Moore throw those two dominant innings. I'm like, well, that's completely thrown out the window. So I put them on. And like Johnny and I must think I'm crazy because like as Moniac's hitting dingers,
Starting point is 00:02:08 I'm fist pumping, like, as Moniac's hitting dingers, I'm fist pumping, like, getting all fired up. And it's like, ultimately, it's just spring training. But I don't know. Today felt like my World Series. Oh, that's sad, man. That actually makes me really sad. Well, listen, it's been a long decade. Man, I really hope today is not your World Series. Here's the thing, though.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Man, I really hope today is not your old days. Here's the thing, though, and we're going to get into everything we saw today and what we're seeing and my, I'm sure, more sober take on what we saw and have seen so far than you. But, I mean, we have to start this podcast off with the most important thing to Jack in his life right now. jack has decided that something is going to be his passion project like there is something that is now the thing like you thought nick pavetta was the thing oh no jim costanti is the thing am i right jack friends yeah i just i can't believe we're leading the podcast off with this but here we are talked about all week how could i not i know so uh my new passion project is getting jim constani on the wall of fame um i think it is utterly ridiculous the 1950 nl mvp some say the first josh hater um the first josh hater slash andrew miller type reliever um you know that team with that team
Starting point is 00:03:26 went to the world series and he's the nl mvp and i think it's past it's past time to put jim constani um on the wall of fame so i will be organizing a movement we will be uh down at citizens bank park we will create a hashtag and um listen he may have died in 1973, but we're going to keep his life alive. All right. So what's funny is the fact that Mike Lieberthal is on the wall of fame and Jim Gostany isn't. Exactly. It's actually kind of ridiculous. What's even funnier is actually looking at.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Have you ever looked at his MVP season? I think like once, but I haven't. It's one of the weirdest reference lines you could possibly think of. So as you mentioned, a great reliever, 22 saves on the season. Also somehow went 16-7. 23 decisions for Constanti that year. A 2-6-6 ERA. You ready for this one, Jack?
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yes, yes I am. My man pitched 152 innings. Would you like to take a guess at how many strikeouts mvp jim costanti had in the 152 innings that he pitched 78 56 wow thanks man well as we all know jim costanti was a classic ground ball pitcher uh to one every three innings he was striking out a guy one every three innings and he won striking out a guy who won every three innings, and he won the MVP. Yeah, well, I don't think the voters were on fan graphs back in the day. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:04:52 So I just, you know, I think it's past time to get Jim Kostany, the 1950 NL MVP, into the Phillies' Hall of Fame. I mean, Lieberthal's in there. Some scrubs are in there. And again, he may have died in 1973, but we're going to keep his legend on because I think it's ridiculous that he's not on the Wall of Fame. So yes, this is the new passion project of the High Hopes podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Sure, did we do more important things like getting Bryce Harper here? Yes, we did. But some would say that getting Jim Constanti in the wall of fame is just as important as getting Bryce here. I mean, I would say more important. I mean, this is forever, right? I mean, like Bryce is here for a 13 year contract. It's awesome. I love having him here, but this is, uh, immortalizing Jim Costanti. Yeah. Well, especially when you factor in that there's a high likelihood that Jim Costanti will win more MVPs in a Phillies uniform than Bryce Harper. Ouch. Not cool. Not good, Jack. Don't go there. Did you think there
Starting point is 00:05:52 was any chance we were starting the pod? Did you see this coming in any way, shape, or form? No, I didn't. And I don't blame anyone out there that decided to turn this off thinking that they were going to get excited about a 15-0 Phill's victory over the Yanks, but here we are. So, Jim Constante, wall of fame talk. Immortalizing. Immortalizing. It's more important. All right, 15-0.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Let's get into it. Yes. I mean, it was not just a 15-0 game, but it was a 15-0 Jack Fritz game. I mean, you get two bombs from Moniak. Jet packs back. You know, Matt Moore twirling two shutouts. I mean, that's right.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Freaking title of our last pod was how you can't sleep. You're thinking about Matt Moore. Like, all right. So just go through the range of emotions today. How excited are you about all these things? And what really sticks out to you the most? So obviously, full disclosure, we don't lie to the high hopes listeners. Um, so I watched, like I watched on my phone while in the meeting with Marks and Reese.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Oh my God, who are you? Who does this? Well, listen, man, I was dying. I, I, I needed it. So, uh, so I was watching on my phone and Marks and Reese meeting. Obviously I couldn't be fully dialed in. Um, and then we obviously had our meeting go out. I watched a little bit, uh, i was watching on my phone in march and reese meeting obviously i couldn't be fully dialed in um and then we obviously had our meeting go out i watched a little bit uh my computer turned on so like i wasn't i wasn't as locked in as i usually am on my spring training baseball and i am currently now going back and re-watching it so i just got through the the the two matt
Starting point is 00:07:20 moore innings so um but i i do do have some definite takeaways from it. Like Matt Moore just looked – I think my biggest takeaway is that he looked free and easy. Like he looked very smooth, and I know it was, you know, 92, 93 on the stadium gun, but I think you could make the case that, you know, by the end of the month it could be 94, 95. Yeah. I expect to see – if a guy's not pitching harder in a month
Starting point is 00:07:48 than he is in his first start of spring training, then you actually worry, like what happened there. Right. So I thought it looked free and easy, and we talked a lot about – in the Thinking About Matt Moore Late at Night podcast about his knuckle curve to, to lefty batters. And I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:07 right off the bat, it was, it was a, it was a nasty curve. And I was just like, this is, this is the dream right here. So,
Starting point is 00:08:13 um, um, I thought he looked great. Uh, like a lot of Hamels vibes, uh, which is weird. Um,
Starting point is 00:08:20 but really smooth mechanics, nine, three 94 dotted the inside corner. Um, a couple of times with this fastball, even got a, even got a, one of the righty hitters for the Yankees with a 93 94 dotted the inside corner a couple times with this fastball even got a even got a one of the righty hitters for the Yankees with a change up on the inside corner I was actually more impressed with this change up than I thought it was going to be I thought it was only I thought it was always just kind of an okay pitch but I think it had pretty good deception today and looks like a weapon to to righty batters so you know like matt moore obviously was once a sexy name then became
Starting point is 00:08:46 terrible um but i thought i genuinely thought he was trying to make strides with the tigers in 2019 and then he pitched in japan last year and matt moore pitched more innings than anyone in major league baseball did last year he pitched like 85 innings in japan so um i i just i really liked what i saw obviously i don't want to get too far ahead of myself. But that knuckle curve is definitely a weapon. Was impressed with the changeup. And I really thought his fastball rides a lot, especially inside the righties. So knuckle curves to lefties, inside fastballs to righties.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And we might have something here, but definitely a good start. I love the concept of you being like, I don't want to get ahead concept of you being like i don't want to get ahead of myself yeah i don't want to get too far ahead of myself but mickey moniak might make the all-star team yeah exactly so so where are we at on the uh before we get to moniak the official jack fritz has talked himself into that more like level here like what what level are we at on the scale? So does me. I won't put it at 2019 Pavetta. Obviously not. That one's impossible. I'd say it's comparable to, what was it called last year?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Summer Camp. Vince Velasquez last year. Okay. There are some things to be positive on um but given the track record i don't want to be fully in because i know i could get hurt and really i don't want to lead the high hopes people down the wrong path like i feel bad about pavetta you know i feel like i let everyone down the path and it turned and was terrible even though he looked pretty good at his first spring training start but um um so i i don't want to get too ahead of myself. I know that sounds funny because whatever, that's me.
Starting point is 00:10:26 But definite positive things, and I could see why the Phillies were in on him. Okay, quickly, do you think we had talked about him potentially being a dominant reliever weapon out of the pen. Are you still leaning that way, or do you think it's more likely he's going to get a shot at this rotation? No, I think he's their number four. I really do. Wow. I think what I thought was going to be the Pomerantz kind of converted starter, and this isn't long-term, but I think it's going to be Spencer Howard and Vinny
Starting point is 00:10:55 are going to be like the long reliever starter kind of guys, whereas I thought maybe that more was going to be the Pomerantz. But Spencer Howard just seems like they're going to start molding him for that so they can manage his innings. And then Vinny, the way that they're doing the pitching staffs the next two days kind of are telling you something, I think, because the hardest part for most starters when they start going out of the bullpen is getting used to it.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I know this isn't the same thing, but I was always terrible coming out of the bullpen. But in all seriousness like starters i know i'm not like you know talking about major league pitching you know let me let me tell you i know i know pitch but but pitchers are pitchers and um i just i always had a i always had a um uh a routine as a starter that i would get myself into and i'm sure these guys do the same thing. And it's just a different mindset going from the bullpen. So they're, they're actually doing a smart thing in,
Starting point is 00:11:51 in getting these guys saying from day one, you're going to be a bullpen guy and getting them used to that. Like you can always go back to being a starter and going back to that routine, but getting in a routine as a bullpen guy is way harder to do. So I liked that from early in spring, it feels like Girardi and Co. are already defining roles. All right, Moniak, go.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Oh, Mick. I mean, talk about being dead right about a guy. I feel like the number one pick is now vindicated. He is awesome. And it's like he looks so good. I mean, like his hands look quick. He looks strong. Everyone's talking about, oh, who's going to win the center field job?
Starting point is 00:12:37 Well, Mickey Moniak. Why not Mickey Moniak? I mean, it was a good start today to break out Moniak. But, yeah, he looks quick. He looks fast. Looks more comfortable in the box. You know, the last couple times he has come up and been in spring training, like, he just doesn't look like the pitch recognition is there.
Starting point is 00:12:57 But, yeah, it was a step in the right direction today. Absolute tanks. And I can't wait for more. I want, like honestly honestly james like the starters could play two winnings for all i care like the only thing i want to see for the rest of spring training is like johan rojas oh i know i think everyone listening to this podcast you didn't even need to say that i mean it was just assumed that that was what you didn't i know and this is gonna sound this is gonna that that was what you know i know and
Starting point is 00:13:25 this is gonna sound this is gonna sound bad but like you know i saw bryce was gonna is gonna make his uh grapefruit league debut tomorrow and i was like that's cool i guess like gonna come he'd tell me wow can you tell me who the reserves are gonna be like i just i just want to know when it's time for me to really uh uh lock it on the game yeah yeah yeah uh all right like we love mickey that's our guy friend of the pod super great guy super great guest easily the best talker of all those guys we had on but i have come to resign myself to looking at Mickey Moniak as a fourth outfielder at best. Do you think there's still potential for him to be a real major leaguer, like an everyday guy? Is that, you know, all jokes aside, reality, like we never lie to the IOPs listeners.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Like, do you think that Mickey Moniak's ceiling is higher than just kind of a reserve player? Because it feels like that's what he is right now. I think he's i think he could be a starting caliber player uh i don't obviously the number one pick stuff is whatever i mean that's not not gonna happen it doesn't matter yeah yeah yeah i mean obviously everyone knows that but i do think that there's a like a starting-ish caliber player but yeah it's probably it's probably fourth outfielder. Could start kind of in a platoon role. But I don't know because I do think the first couple years,
Starting point is 00:14:50 I don't think the development was that great for him. And he is still only 22. So I just, you know, I think there could be potential for more, especially if he keeps working with O-Chart and the hitting staff down there. Like, I believe in his ceiling more than I believe in Adam Haseley's ceiling. Oh, yeah. No, I think I believe in Moniak more than I believe in Adam Haseley. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:15 That's okay. I mean, that's something. Yeah. I mean, I think there's a good solid player in there. It's going to take a little bit to get it out of him. solid player in there um it's gonna take a little bit to get it out of him but um i just think these last two years have have done a really good job and in in getting the most out of moniak that i don't think was a reality even like three years ago so um yeah i mean i just i hope he's good i like the kid uh i think i think mickey moniak is a fantastic baseball name and uh i'm rooting
Starting point is 00:15:43 hard for him yeah i'm rooting hard for him. Yeah, I'm rooting hard for him too. And again, like we talked about, I mean, just a super likable guy. And if you haven't heard, you can go back and listen to our pod with him like a year ago, whatever it was. And he was awesome. Like we had Boehm, him, and Howard on, and like he was just easily the best talker of the three. He was the most engaging, most fun to talk to.
Starting point is 00:16:01 So we were certainly rooting for Mickey. Now, I can't, before we move on, like I can't just, I can't let it go. Okay. I mean, you just tear me apart anytime I say a player's name wrong. Who did I mess up? Can you again say what it's called
Starting point is 00:16:18 when, I don't know, two players, you know, kind of split a position? Oh, yeah. I would say platoon. Platoon, yeah yeah not platoon oh yeah i've always said platoon i don't know why it's platoon platoon yeah uh well yeah it makes sense platoon but see but what i do though is i get bullied into saying things right like i used to say jaguar jagwire you used to do the jaguar jag Jaguar type thing. Yeah, but now I'm a Jaguar guy.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Good. We're at least moving in the right direction. Yeah, unlike you who, you know. Oh, yeah. I mess up a name or two that I've never heard before. At least I know how to say words that, you know, you use in English language on a constant level. Anthony Rendon was the best third baseman in baseball when he called him Rendon. So let's calm down.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Okay. 1986 best picture winner. What was it called? Platoon? I don't think so. Was that one of those stupid Stallone movies? No. Do you not know what Platoon is, dude?
Starting point is 00:17:15 Oh, is that the one with Charlie Sheen? It is. Yes. Charlie Sheen is in that one. Look at you. I have obviously never seen that. Of course not. I would have never expected it.
Starting point is 00:17:24 All right. Back to today. What else? Jetpack's back? Oh, no! Dude. This is your thing! I know. You're the Jetpack's back guy!
Starting point is 00:17:37 I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I just hate the swing. Like, I really...
Starting point is 00:17:44 I do. It's so uppercutty. I guess I just don't know how he expects to make consistent hard contact if he's going to be that uppercutty on a swing. I don't know. It was a good pitch. It was a changeup down that he was able to catch up to, but he's still struggling with heat. So, yeah, like I'm obviously hopeful, but I don't know. The home run was great. I just want to see more line drives. Like, for example, I see Hoskins today. You know, he goes to the right field in like his second at bat,
Starting point is 00:18:22 and it's like that's where we need Reese to be. Like we need Reese thinking opposite field because we know that when Reese is thinking opposite field that's when you know that Reese is about about to get locked in and the fact that Reese is already thinking that I think in his first spring training game is a great sign like Scotty is still thinking you know pulls to left field like trying to hit 25 home runs a year as a as a muscled up you know second baseman like that's not what we need you to be like i would if if kingler was thinking right center field gap and and all that stuff i'd be more in but i would actually rather have seen that than the home run today so i mean yeah i i i'm, like, I want Scotty to be good,
Starting point is 00:19:07 but I actually did not like the home run today. Wow. I like that. An honest take there. I appreciate that. Not that you're, you know, we never lie. I have sisters. Oh, yeah, no, just take a shot, dude.
Starting point is 00:19:19 No, but I mean, like, this jetpack's back. Like, that's your thing. And I appreciate you not riding the thing over what you see. Well, James, there was a lot of things today. I mean, we're breaking down. You are a things guy. I mean, we're breaking down a Reeves Hoskins single to right field as like a reason why he's going to hit 35 homers this year. So there's a lot of things to get into.
Starting point is 00:19:43 What else you got for today um vinny so um the thing with vinny is that he looked good like he just looked good it was it was normal it was he looked smooth per usual um you know i don't know if it was anything like obviously he's another guy that you don't want to get your your hopes about. And I do, I just, I can't get past that. We call him Vinny B-Low and he throws 94. But he does, like his fastball has always graded out as elite. So I hope that they get more out of him. And it's just, it is nice that it seems like he's going to be out of the bullpen.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And we don't have to watch him every fifth day. So while I've never been a full believer in bullpen Vinny, I've just, like, you know, Vinny on a whole is just mostly a brutal watch, but at least it won't be in the starting staff. But, you know, I thought he showed his good fastball today. I thought it was fine. And there's just, you know, there's a lot to like if they put him in the bullpen. So a good Vinnie game. Uh, I still would like to see a little bit. I would like to believe more in the, in the off speed. Um, I actually thought I threw
Starting point is 00:20:53 a one decent change up, but a good Vinnie day. And, uh, I'm excited for the rest of his spring. Man, it is, it is amazing. And I know a different role this year, and that's something to be excited about theoretically and all that. But it is amazing your ability to continually come back to this, man. I know. To continually say, you know what? Vinny. This is the time.
Starting point is 00:21:19 This is the role. This is the thing that's going to work. It's going to work this time. I know. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. And why I'm believing more than ever, is we talk about this a lot, but Caleb Gotham.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I mean, I believe in Caleb Gotham more than I believe in anyone. Is it possible that some people are even beyond Caleb Gotham's abilities? Yes, of course, of course. But what we also have to realize is, and we are learning it more and more with this Joel Embiid season, is sometimes players can grow. And, you know, you don't have to write players off because of four bad years like Vince Velasquez.
Starting point is 00:21:51 You can give them one more shot. One more shot. That's a good attitude. Boehm, what a shot. What a shot, man. I will say I am irrationally excited about Alec Boehm. Like, you know, kind of our thing is, you know, you're the one who gets irrationally excited about usually younger guys
Starting point is 00:22:12 and all that stuff, but that's your thing. Like, I'm like you when it comes to Alec Boehm. Like, the sky's the limit for this guy, Zaynur. And it's like, it's just so refreshing just to watch him hit it's like and believe me i'm all about launch angle whatever like exit velo and stuff but he's just like he's such a professional hitter and he's always been a professional hitter since he got up and it's it's like a it's a consistent and and it can happen and all that stuff i mean um you know, Rube was on with Giglio last night, and he threw out a Miggy comparison, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:52 But when you watch it, it's the same kind of thing. I mean, it's like the best hitters in baseball are consistently thinking right center field gap and then hitting homers to, like, center field. And, like, Boehm, his home runs are to center and right field. I mean, the fact that we get to watch this guy for 162 this year, hopefully, it's just going to be so fun to watch. And I think I really do. I think by the end of the year, for as much as we love Harper
Starting point is 00:23:20 and as much as we love Real Muto, like, I think Boehm's going to be right there with his guys as a beloved figure in this town, especially when you realize how hard he works. I don't know if we've talked about this, but he bought a place in Clearwater and he's been there since December. All he's done is all he's... We have not
Starting point is 00:23:38 talked about that. All he does is live at the complex. You can already see with his defense. Against the Blue Jays there was two grainy videos or whatever but i mean we'll break like we'll break those down as much as we need to but you know he's making like diving plays and backhanded stabs and just like he's he's one of those guys that you just believe in because of the work they put in and like how competitive he is i mean he takes and we talked about i think last podcast but they asked him about his defense in one of the zoom calls and like he you could see how like mad he was in his eyes about them asking about his defense he's
Starting point is 00:24:18 like yeah i'm here to prove people wrong i'm here to prove that i can play third base long term and dude if they have bone that can play third base long term and dude if they have boom they can play third base long term legitimately and then you have hoskins who is on his way back so that you have to trade one of those guys now i know the dh is probably coming next year it just it just solves a lot of issues and he yeah he is just such a joy and like i don't think it's totally unfair to throw and i think Miggy's a little too far, but like a Freeman, Rendon, J.D. Martinez kind of comp on Alec Boehm? I mean, it's aggressive, but look, I can see it.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Is it even that aggressive? Are we actually sleeping on Alec Boehm? A little bit. Yeah, I don't think it's that aggressive. Even the Miggy one like it's aggressive it's you know like Miggy's a no doubt about it Hall of Famer um so it anyone this age who hasn't done it you know for any extended period of time it's always gonna feel aggressive but it's not aggressive like this guy's that kind of hitter he really is I mean it feels
Starting point is 00:25:21 like he makes adjustments pitch to pitch. Like, he is so impressive. He just is so comfortable. And look, we saw it too with the clutch hitting and all that. Like, every time they needed a big hit from this guy last year, he gave it to him. And it just felt easy. It felt like second nature. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Like, I think there's a chance that by the end of the season, we look at this team and say, oh, Alec Boehm is the best hitter on this team. Like, flat out. I think that's a chance that by the end of the season we look at this team and say oh alec boom is the best hitter on this team like flat out i think that's a real chance yeah and i just hope that the the braves mets and nationals and the marlins are all ready for it because i've been sick and tired of teams getting back-breaking hits against the phillies and we have that guy now that's gonna get the back-breaking hits against you i mean that's that's just what it is. And, dude, just an absolute tank, the center field. I mean, like we saw last year, you know, obviously the elite bat-to-ball skills and all of that. But I'm just excited for him to put together one of those, like,
Starting point is 00:26:19 30-110 batting 300 seasons when it's like the peak Alec Baum years are just going to be so exciting to watch like um like like i mean i think like 325 is in play this year no i agree he could go 330 like that's that he could do that immediately he doesn't strike out which is great um yeah and just just just we talked about it a lot at the end of last year just thinking about uh lineup every day of of having boom behind or even in the middle of of real muto and harper and just how like tough that's going to be on opposing opposing pitchers like i wouldn't even hate like putting them in the two hole i mean just having the two hole and have them make that
Starting point is 00:27:02 hard contact and not strike out and like be a way souped up version of Placido Polanco I mean I don't know there's there's so many possible outcomes for Alec Bone but given how hard he works and given his competitiveness and like he's just gonna be such a treat this year yeah I'm excited you got anything else from today before we move on yeah so I do really want Yeah, so I do really want to talk about Brian Mitchell because I really like Brian Mitchell. I don't know if he can make the team. I think he has a shot. Genuinely, James, I feel good about the bullpen,
Starting point is 00:27:41 and I know we've talked about it. I do, man. I'm telling you the bullpen's going to be good. I'm telling you it's going to be good. The bullpen is going to be good this year. I don't know how good, but they're not going to kill him. I believe in this bullpen. There's been stories about Jose Alvarado
Starting point is 00:28:00 and how he was embarrassed at his raised tenure last year or whatever, and he just came into camp in shape, throwing hard. And I was like, super great all in. But then there's Brian Mitchell, who was generating legitimate whiffs today just on his fastball. I thought his curveball had really good spin to it. I heard some stuff about him possibly being up to like the upper 90s early in camp. He was sitting like 95, 96 today. So it's a legitimate power arm. I remember I always liked him with the Yankees. Like I always thought he was going to be that guy that kind of break through a couple
Starting point is 00:28:35 years ago. Never put it together. Went to San Diego. Was terrible. But man, it seems like I don't have the spin numbers in front of me, but it looks like he generates good spin on his fastball. It looks like he generates good spin on his curveball. So the Jack Fritz eye is definitely watching very closely towards Brian Mitchell. Okay. I'm going to go off his baseball reference page and say he's not good. Now, who knows?
Starting point is 00:29:06 You're just being a hater. Maybe something is it. I mean, you got to admit the baseball reference page is not good. I know the baseball reference page isn't good. I mean, he was awful in San Diego. And he was awful in New York in 2017, too. Didn't pitch at all last year. I'm well aware.
Starting point is 00:29:21 In the majors. I'm well aware. I'm well aware. And also, I mean, like, not a strikeout guy. I know, but that's what made today so interesting because he's generating, like, legitimate whiffs on his fastball. My man struck out 38 guys in 73 innings in 2018 as a relief pitcher, Jack. You're just being a hater.
Starting point is 00:29:40 You're being a hater. Yes, I'll take it. I'm a Brian Mitchell hater. Okay. Okay. Well, you have fun on that on that hill all right i'm gonna i'm gonna come back at you at this moment all right and here's my what's your what's your take we got we went through your whole thing you just did all your thing about today and all the excitement we don't lie to the high hopes listeners here's my take spring training means nothing nothing. You are just the worst. Do not get swept away like Jack Fritz.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Do not look at someone at a home run in spring training and be like, oh, my goodness. Don't buy into the best shape of his life. It's all BS. Now, there are things you can look for. I agree if you see someone who has a new pitch, if you see someone who has a tick in velocity, if you see someone who has a new pitch, if you see someone who has a tick in velocity, if you see someone who's altered their swing, those fundamental changes, those fundamental
Starting point is 00:30:30 differences to how they play the game to them as a player, that stuff can be valid. And even then, don't just believe it, like, but it can be valid. But in terms of like, oh, this guy's batting 430 in spring, he's going to be great. No, it's just not the way it works. I'm He's going to be great. No, it's just not the way it works. I'm sorry. It's just not. It's just not. We've seen so many examples year after year after year after year of guys who have these awesome springs and then suck in the season. We all know pitchers will go out and they're like, I'm working on my curveball today. I'm going to throw 50% curveballs, all this kind of stuff. You just can't take it at face value so i appreciate the excitement
Starting point is 00:31:07 but i'm throwing some yeah i feel like i feel like i'm being yelled at i mean i feel like i'm like i'm being talked to i mean i'm sorry yeah i would say it's more talking to than being yelled at you know more of a scolding i'm sorry i'm sorry i offended you with my excitement towards towards our baseball team no No, it's good. You want to do the rest of the podcast by yourself? I mean, unbelievable. I mean, I could. I mean, you're big time.
Starting point is 00:31:30 You've got to go on the radio a little bit. I mean, seriously, I can't get excited. Jack's like, oh, I can only go until this time because I've got to go on the Joe Giglio show. You know, no biggie. You are just the worst. I'm a guest on the radio. are just i'm a guest on the radio like you know so so so i guess you don't want a full breakdown of of of uh of my guy of my guy cj jatham or no of course i do just give it to me i mean whether i do or don't i think the high hopes listeners do i think i guess i guess i just
Starting point is 00:32:00 don't appreciate you saying i not believing in me when I say that Brian Mitchell is this year's Constancy or whatever his name is. Like Brian Mitchell is clearly this year's Jim Constancy. That's all I'm saying. So MVP season coming, baby. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't get ahead of myself.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Everyone knows that. No. Yeah, exactly. Dude. So like, I love. Chatham. There's an interesting bench battle that's kind of going on between him and Nick Madden. Nick Madden's just smoking the ball all over the field,
Starting point is 00:32:39 and then Chatham, he kind of has the – he has that – not the same player at all, but like the boom, right center field gap, just seems to barrel up the baseball a lot. So I'm excited for what both of those guys can do. I think – I'm not going to say they're going to be unbelievable. I mean, sure, at one point on this – I mean, in reality, neither will probably make the roster, right? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I think there could be a bench job to be one. As a backup infielder. I mean, there is not – it depends really on what the role of King the roster, right? I don't know. I think there could be a bench job to be one. As a backup infielder. I mean, it depends really on what the role of Kingery is, right? If Kingery's not your starting center fielder, then he's going to be your backup infielder. But if he's a starting center fielder, then it's a difference. Would you agree with that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:17 They'll move him all over the place. But regardless, I mean, I think there are two prospects that I think could eventually help this team a few years down the road. It seems like they can make decent contact. They both look like they're a year away from being pretty good utility guys. Although I did say earlier in this podcast that C.J. Chatham is going to be our version of Ryan Sandberg. So we'll see how that plays out.
Starting point is 00:33:41 But I like what I've seen from both of those guys and if they can if they can turn into like a brock holt type of player we've seen how valuable those guys can be um you kind of hope that kingery is not brock holt you hope he's a little bit better but kingery could even be that kind of guy um but they just look like like guys that could help a winning ball club down the road so good stuff from them i like it we need guys who can help a winning ball club down the road so good stuff from them i like it uh we need guys who can help a winning ball club down the road that's a uh something i'm looking for right now jack um all right you got any other spring training thoughts before i move on to some other stuff i do but i will uh you want to save it for the take back for the take back okay quickly uh the jbj dream is clearly dead
Starting point is 00:34:23 signing with the brewers i don't think it was a real dream to begin with. Are you holding out any hope for Jay? Jay Godarizzi, clearly, I think the by far biggest name still kind of sitting out there. Someone will sign him. He will be pitching in the league this year at some point. I think he's holding out. You know, we've seen guys wait till the end. And like Kyle Loesch a few years ago, Alex Cobb, if I remember correctly, it worked out for like there have been guys who've waited till like towards the end of spring training when
Starting point is 00:34:48 the season started and teams have gotten desperate and signed them to nice deals and they got more than they expected do you think that's what odor easy is doing do you think this lasts much longer and do you think there's any real chance the phillies are actually in on it um well uh i think he's eventually gonna get paid i'm not sure for how much, just because, I don't know, it seems weird. He might be waiting for an offer that's not out there, so maybe he comes back down. But I think there's a chance. I just don't think the Phillies are going to go way overboard to try to sign him. I think if he comes down to maybe like $8 million a year or something for three years, or at the third-year option, maybe. I just don't know if he's going to get down to that kind of level.
Starting point is 00:35:28 But I think there could be a – if they go out to spring training and it's clear that they're like one starter away from really being something, I don't know. I wouldn't put it past them. But, I mean, after what I saw from Matt Moore today, might not need him. And, boy, are we one Chase Anderson good outing tomorrow away from definitely don't need him. Because spring training results are the only thing that matters. Good work.
Starting point is 00:35:56 That's good work by you. Again, I felt like I was being yelled at. Sorry, Dad. But no, I don't think they're going to sign him, but I could see if his price is low enough and it's a clear, clear hole, which I still think it is, yeah, I could see them going for it. But I'm not going to – I would put it at like a 10% chance.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yeah, I don't have high hopes, but, you know, I love Oterizzi. I would be all in on that move. And I think it really could change the complexion of kind of how they are as a regular season team. All right. Um, a couple more things, then we'll get to your take bag. Um, I'm guessing you know this for sure, but I'll give you a, who said it? Uh, and I will not curse cause I know Jack hates cursing. Um, my mentality is basically just bleep you you're not bleeping beat me today you're not gonna beat us today as soon as we get the lead we're going to come out and we're gonna shove it up your you know what and if a guy is in trouble then the next guy up your bleep. Jack, who said it?
Starting point is 00:37:11 That was me at Bloomsburg in 2014 when we set a school record in wins. That would be the one and only Brandon Kinsler, who was really laying it on thick to try to get that $3 million contract from the Phils to – I love it. My man coming in hot. It's like, hold on. What time do you think they asked him that? Do you think that was at like 7 a.m.?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Like when they first got to the ballpark. Hey, Brandon, how you feel about this year? Yeah, so I'm going to tell you something, Matt Kell. It's like, whoa, man. We haven't even had our coffee yet. Relax. Hey, chill, buddy. It's all good.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Just hey, hey, just go inside. Maybe take a chill pill. You know i mean i love it but i love it man i love it oh here's what i'll say here's what i'll say here's what i'll say brandon kintzler is not as good a pitcher as archie bradley but right now i'm a bigger fan of brandon kintzler i just to say it. I have to be real. Archie Bradley has disappointed me so far for obvious reasons. Brandon Kinsler looks like a Philly guy. Brandon Kinsler, congratulations. You're a Philly guy. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Archie, once again, you could become a Philly guy if you ditch the Chris Rose podcast and come on this podcast. Yeah, Chris Rose. Chris Rose. Really, no offense the Chris Rose podcast and come on this podcast. Yeah, Chris Rose. Chris Rose. Really, no offense to Chris Rose. He seems like a fine gentleman. But really, Archie? Really? Do you care about being a Philly at all?
Starting point is 00:38:34 That's what I want to know. It's a fair critique. Another thing I will say about Brandon Kintzler is that, you know, I wish the guy that said that was not a 91-mile-an-hour thrower sinker baller. You know, I wish. I know. A 37-year-old sinker baller. It's like if Josh Hader says it, it's like, yeah, let's go.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Yeah. But, yeah, let's not. It doesn't have the same effect when it's 91 with a little bit of sink and, like, you know, hoping to get guys out. But, hey, listen, I do think that that could be something the bullpen can kind of get behind. To what extent, I don't know. But I do think that having, you know, for as much as – I know, this is whatever. But, like, for as much as people hated Papelbon,
Starting point is 00:39:18 and for, you know, obvious reasons, he was the worst. Like, the guys in that bullpen loved that guy. And, like, the 2015 Phillies bullpen loved that guy and like the 2015 phillies bullpen happened and everyone needs to know about it so um yes the legend of the so um you know look i do think you need guys like that like bullpens need guy yeah exactly and bullpen like being a bullpen pitcher is weird, especially being a closer. It's a weird thing. We talk about it all the time. Like you just need to be a little messed up in the head sometimes. And it seems like Brandon Kintzler's got that in space. Yeah. Well, that's younger than me too at 37. Let me tell you, let me tell you, Jack,
Starting point is 00:39:57 I'm still not used to seeing a baseball player at 37 years old and saying that guy's younger than me. Not cool. Yeah. And, um, and, uh, another thing you just mentioned how bullpen guys have to be a little messed up in the head. Like that's why I struggled so much with being at bullpen guys. Cause I'm so level headed that I'm clearly a starter. Also,
Starting point is 00:40:17 does it make you feel old? But the, the Eagles head coach is like three months. Uh, literally he's three months older than me yeah no yeah of course it does jack yeah that's got to be an odd feeling that's got it like i haven't fully experienced that yet because i'm technically supposed to be in my prime still even though my even though my knee really hurts so like um but yeah that's got to be that's got to send shock
Starting point is 00:40:39 waves through your system yeah like i'm i'm at the point where like it's pretty soon there'll be no baseball players older than me. And yeah, it's not great. No, it's definitely not. It's not one of those things that you're like, oh, I can't wait till this happens. It's not a milestone for you? It's the opposite. No.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I hope Tom Brady keeps playing for the next decade. Like I want that guy to play forever for this reason only. And that's it. I got nothing else. Well, don't worry. Brian Mitchell will still be pitching into his mid-40s where's jamie moyer when i need him you know what i'm saying um all right i got two more things for you three three more things three more things uh quickly um and this happened
Starting point is 00:41:18 like right after our pod last week so it's been six days or ever but bryce harper spoke talked a lot about the franchise and you know how happy was it to Browski was here and and talked about the Phillies letting him be him I just want to thank the Phillies for letting Bryce Harper be Bryce because I love Bryce as I said last time I'm so sick and tired of people going after Bryce for like giving us what we want oh what a horrible thing this guy cares about his fan base and actually wants to make them happy like what a terrible thing how could anyone how could anyone like this phony it's like no screw you this guy's awesome he actually gives a bleep about what I
Starting point is 00:41:57 think about him which is like so foreign to me as a fan of sports like all in I will do it every week if i have to like shut up the bryce haters shut up i'm talking to you joe to camera and everyone else out there shut up well i'm glad you said it i'm glad you got it off your chest i feel the same way towards cj chatham haters um and moniac deniers um but yeah. And how about, you know, Nick Pavetta? Yes, yes. I mean, he looked pretty good the other day. But yeah, it was a good session for Bryce. I didn't really listen to anything else he said
Starting point is 00:42:37 after he said that Bryson Stott reminds him of J.J. Hardy and Brandon Crawford in the field and Garrett Anderson at the plate. And you just, like, find a bag to hyperventilate. Yeah, I had to go cool off. Again, just for clarity's sake here, if he is Brandon Crawford slash J.J. Hardy in the field and Garrett Anderson at the plate at shortstop,
Starting point is 00:42:58 he is a high-level Hall of Famer. Yeah, he sure is. So that'd be cool. I'm in on that. He sure is. But at least we're not putting too much pressure on the kid um but yes i uh it was a good and it's just you know it's it can't be underrated i guess how much he cares you know and i know the fan thing and i i'm with you on that but also just the organization i mean obviously he was like scared of where the organization was heading and
Starting point is 00:43:28 probably rightfully so. Like I just signed here for 13 years and we're already cutting payroll. So yeah, it was, it was, uh, it was massive. And the Nebraska thing was massive.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And I think we said it last podcast, but legitimately, uh, getting Nebraska here, uh, might've staved off a, an eventual Bryce Harper. Yeah, a Bryce Harper trade? I really think it did. I think Dave,
Starting point is 00:43:48 you know, again, you cannot go more 180 than we have with Dave Dabrowski, but I really think this franchise is in a whole lot of trouble if they didn't get Dave Dabrowski or who to thunk it. Who to help thunk it. Not us. We always believe in Dave Dabrowski. Never once has a bad
Starting point is 00:44:04 word about Dave Dabrowski come out of our mouth. Never once. Just for the record. All right. I'm going to save my last thing for my final thoughts. So take back. OK. And boy, has there been some games to have some take backs to. All right. Yeah, I was I was expecting a robust. Well, I guess you granted, to be fair, I think I took a lot of it away early on. So, you know, but that's OK. As long I think I took a lot of it away early on. You did.
Starting point is 00:44:25 But that's okay. As long as we get it all in there, it's all good. So speaking of Bryce. Don't forget, you got your big radio interview coming up, so you may want to hustle or whatever. I mean, listen, jealousy really, you can hear it spreading through this podcast. It's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:44:45 So with Bryce and Stott, just real quick, I have watched his at-bat from the first game six times now. I am borderline obsessed with it. It was such a beautiful at-bat. I briefly glimpsed at his at-bat today, and I already missed two pitches, so I felt like I was too far down a rabbit hole that I missed too much. is it bad today and i already missed two pitches so i felt like i was too far down a rabbit hole that i missed too much but um i he is going to be and i'm not gonna put like garrett anderson
Starting point is 00:45:11 whatever that guy is going to be a solid very solid major league player for a long time i don't know how good he's gonna be like i don't know what kind of level he's going to achieve, whatever. All I know is that guy's going to be good. Like this, his ability to already, like he's already like spitting on pitches that he's not looking to do damage on. He's getting fastballs and he's looking to do damage on them. Um, he, he's always been a good bat to ball guy. He looks like he's added more power, definitely added more strength. The bat looks quick through the zone. I was so impressed with this guy who has never played above rookie ball facing major league caliber pitchers in a sense. I mean, obviously, they're not major league guys yet, but they're at least fringe guys.
Starting point is 00:46:00 And from day one, you could just tell that he was calm, cool, collected. And I think being around Bryce Harper has obviously helped him a lot. And I think Bryce is kind of taking him under his wing like Jason Wirth did back in the day when Bryce got to Washington. And I just I can't wait to see the kid play more. And it is already entered into my head like, like, what if he's ready? Like, what if Bryce is ready halfway through the season like what are they gonna do i mean sigour can't go anywhere until two years from now dd same thing um they're not putting in center field third base is boom like until the dh comes i mean i don't
Starting point is 00:46:38 know i i i've already thought of what bryson stott's ready but i think that's a good place to be at and a good problem to have yeah dude uh it's a great problem that like what we can find somewhere for gene cigar to go don't you worry let's figure this out so good luck with yeah we'll we'll find a way well there's a where there's a will there's a way jack either way look i think just the idea of the we've had and obviously alec bohm not one of them and and aaron nola not one of them but we've had so many misses on these first round picks over the last decade really but certainly in the clint tacker and all that that like to to hit on 14 did on this pick there that would be that'd be really good man that'd be a really exciting thing for this franchise of bryson yeah and i finally found my swing comp for him.
Starting point is 00:47:25 So he has, he's added like a little. Real quick, real quick, real quick. I just want the listeners to understand that when Jack says he finally found, like it really does mean he finally found. Like Jack was, like I could see on his face paint when he came into the studio I was working and complained that he couldn't figure out exactly who it was that he knew the comp was there and he's showing me video of bryson's i'm like who is it i can't i'm like jack you know i'm horrible at this like i'm
Starting point is 00:47:56 not that guy and you finally figured it out and i was really happy for you but i want people to understand that when jack says i finally figured it it out, finally really does mean finally. I know. I feel like, is it like Nicolas Cage in National Treasure when he finally puts it all together? Sure. It works. That's a comp that can be made.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah, that's how I feel when I finally figure out my... I think I'm more like Neo in The Matrix when all of a sudden he can see The Matrix and he stops the bullets and just waves them down. Well, one member of this pod. I know. You've never seen The Matrix. You go National Treasure, which is like one one thousandth as good a movie as The Matrix.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Dude, I love National Treasure. And my movies growing up were National Treasure and A Day After Tomorrow. Which is also a horrible movie. which is also a horrible movie not a horrible movie yeah is that the one with jake gyllenhaal you're talking about that one dennis oh that is a horrendous and it's called the day after tomorrow whatever that's what i said i believe isn't that what i said a day after tomorrow oh did you okay okay um horrendous like honestly i was so disappointed because i was excited for that movie you know you see all the the you know the earthquake and the the tidal wave heading towards new york i was like oh it's gonna be good it's really well i wasn't in my mid
Starting point is 00:49:16 30s when i saw uh a day after tomorrow like you so i oh i dude i will say when you said my movies growing up were national treasure and day before treasure I think it's a day after you're the one that's messing it up not me pal I know I am I realized that when I said it there day after tomorrow I felt like an old man at that point so it made me feel old just to hear you say my movies growing up
Starting point is 00:49:38 were that but they're not great Jack you can do better for everyone listening right now tweet at Jack and tell him how much better the Matrix is in those movies. Like levels. We're talking about if those movies are 5 out of 10, The Matrix is 100 out of 10. It's that much better. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Anyway, so my first swing comp for Bryson Stott was Carlos Santana. And I still think it's a pretty good comp. It's just that Carlos Santana doesn't make contact at the rate that Bryson Stott can. But I finally figured it out because he had this little twirl at the bottom to, I guess, create more power. And he reminds me a lot of Kendry's Morales. All right. Kendry's Morales. Now, he won't have the power of Kendry's Morales, but, dude.
Starting point is 00:50:33 What a random – what a random – it's great. I love it. And I can actually see it. Again, I'm not great at these, but once you tell me them and I can look at it and see it. Like, Kendry's – they do have a similar stance, a similar kind of twirl when they're swinging. Like at it and see it. They do have a similar stance, a similar kind of twirl when they're swinging. I can see it.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Morales is obviously a bit of a bigger guy. Yeah, hefty. Husky perspective. Yeah, exactly. I mean, obviously the power will be a lot different, but Kendrick Morales raked for a long time. So, yeah, I just haven't really stopped thinking about
Starting point is 00:51:03 Bryson Stotts since Monday, and I'm excited to get to his at-bat today once I finally finish my rewatch. Another guy that's caught my eye out of the bullpen, and I'm excited to see him more and more, is David Paulino, along with Brian Mitchell. Just two guys who the stuff just looks like it plays. I love the changeup, love the fastball. I thought the curveball had good spin to it.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I'd like to see it in the zone more. But it just looks like a guy that generates soft contact. And at one point, I'm pretty sure he was a top 50 prospect with the Astros back in, like, 2017, 2018, and then got hurt and stuff. But he's always had good stuff. So, again, just keep giving power arms to Caleb Cotham and let him figure out the rest. But likewise, all from him so far.
Starting point is 00:51:50 But, yeah, big day tomorrow. I mean, I think it's going to be Bradley, Coonrod, Alvarado, I think Naris. So it's going to be a big bullpen day tomorrow. But likewise, all so far from David Paulino. You want to talk some wobba i mean chicks dig the world but i'm always down to talk well but who you're talking to i actually think wobba is one of the better stats out there like i really do if you're like really trying to look at like how good of an offensive player is this guy i think wobba is a a pretty good
Starting point is 00:52:22 stat to use if you're just gonna pick one one stat. Front offices value Woba more than the other. Weighted on base average for those who do not know what I'm talking about. And a little inside my brain here. I tweeted this the other night, actually. So I'll get to the Woba thing. So Zach Eflin had the highest differential in baseball between his expected Woba last year and his actual Woba.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Wait, difference in which way? Good, good, good. Oh, good. Oh, wow. So the Woba was higher than it should have been. I think his actual Woba was like 310, and his expected Woba was in the two sevens. So it was like a 40 point
Starting point is 00:53:05 differential. And legitimately it was the highest in baseball. So it's another reason why I think people are buying into Eflin more and more. We didn't see the video of it obviously, but in his first start he was hitting 94, 95
Starting point is 00:53:21 and he had three strikeouts and two innings. So the fact that his strikeout stuff is still there, I think he's going to be really good this year. But, yeah, so with Woba, I tweeted it the other night just to see what the reaction would be because I could just tell that people were going to be in my mentions like, ugh, like, how about your ITES? Ugh, what is that? Stupid stats.
Starting point is 00:53:44 How do you like the stats man what's your war idiot yeah um and then and then then the next day i brought it up on the air and like john and ike i think wanted to throw me out the throw me out the studio like i just felt like such a nerd bringing up bringing up loba and wip and uh i was just honestly I brought it up because I wanted to see if I could get Howard to text me because Howard listens all the time and he hates advanced stats so I wanted to see if I talked about Woba enough
Starting point is 00:54:14 if Howard would text me saying I was a nerd did it work? it didn't work I got him later on the wilt thing yeah you get everyone on the wilt thing. Yeah, you get everyone on the wilt thing. There is nothing you can make people of a certain age bracket more upset with than saying the 100-point game didn't happen. That's about as bad as it gets for them.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Okay. Let's see what else I have here. Real quick, I'm so with you. I think everyone who's listening to this knows that we're both in on eflin but i'm really with you like i don't think people realize like the average not that not our listeners obviously the best of the best when it comes to philly's fans but i don't think the average philly fans understands just how good zach eflin is and can be i agree and i i this might be like my biggest take of the season but i think think he's going to have a better year than Wheeler. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:55:08 I like that. That's a good take. Art of the take guy and all that. That's a good take. I appreciate it. Two more things here in my take bag. The drinking survey that came out and had the Phillies fans, it's like the 30th. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:25 It was like the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my life. I mean, seriously. First off, we watched that bullpen last year. And if that bullpen didn't make you drink, then, I mean, what will? So, like, that survey is ridiculous. We're not the 30th ranked. I mean, it's among the dumbest things I've ever seen in my life. Like, stop.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I totally agree. And I would just like to say that anyone that shares that survey, you know, don't share it because it's – Yeah, just keep it to yourself. It's an absolute lie. It's an absolute lie. is that like I'm just so thankful for Caleb Cotham, Joe Dillon, Jason Ochart, Travis Hergert, Pat Robles. Just like these guys are hitting the crap out of the baseball and they're throwing the baseball hard. And I know that sounds simplistic, but like they weren't always doing that. And you're starting to see tools flash that haven't flashed in a while.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I mean, you're starting, like, Mickey Moniak hit two balls, like, 104 miles an hour today, like, 450 feet. Like, Mickey Moniak? I mean, that's crazy. Like, Nick Maton is hitting balls hard all over the place. Like, those guys are getting the hard all over the place. Those guys are getting the most out of the talent, and I'm just excited for Brian Barber and his staff to continue to give these guys tools to work with. Because you see all these teams around baseball.
Starting point is 00:57:00 You see all the videos, and it's like, man, some of these teams have some nasty guys. And the Phillies literally just haven't had that in a while. They kind of just were bad at selecting players and they valued like spotting fastballs over throwing hard and contact and tools over like, I don't know, stuff that matters. So like these guys are hitting the ball hard. like, I don't know, stuff that matters. So, like, these guys are hitting the ball hard. They're throwing their stuff with legitimate, like, movement and velo and all that. So, I just, it's just such a breath of fresh air to sit down and see the most getting out of these guys.
Starting point is 00:57:37 So, it's early in camp, but you're seeing the difference already, especially on the hitting side so far. Just loud, loud contacts. Yeah, Brian Barber and Jason O'Chart are my two favorite things about the Phillies. Like, right now. That's my two favorite things going. I'm with you. It's massive. It's so important.
Starting point is 00:57:56 I mean, it's the future. It's what we talk about. It's building a sustainable thing. You know, that we can be good every year. And it all starts and ends there you know with drafting and developing like that's it like that's the key to everything and those two guys are so so important um all right uh by the way jason ojar i noticed his sister is an artist did you see i tweeted that out check out his sister's art my mom's an artist so i did not see that
Starting point is 00:58:21 yeah so shout out to jason'Chart and his sister, who is an artist. Yeah, exactly. That's why, you know, it's our guy. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Final thoughts. I'll go first. Cause I, I teased it before, but I think people who listen to this podcast and you even earlier, this podcast, just always making fun of me. We'll,
Starting point is 00:58:40 we'll appreciate why I appreciate this, but the great Destiny Legardo, shout out to Destiny, she'll follow on Twitter. Great, great follow. And really, you know, great job. She does a great job. But she tweeted out that the
Starting point is 00:58:54 Minnesota Twins had put out a video of Alexander Colme. Nice. And the reason I call him Alexander Colme is because in that video he told me how to say his name and destiny pointed this out and something i've thought for a really long time and i was happy she put out that video and there are teams that do it like i don't know the timpani rays an example of a smart baseball team that does this every single team should tweet out
Starting point is 00:59:21 videos of their players saying their names how their names are supposed to be pronounced. It would save all of us, especially me. Let's be real. We all know so much suffrage and headache and getting their names wrong. Like, don't you want us to know how to say their names? They're players on our teams. Like just tweet out videos of how to say their names. Like it would make everything so much easier. I have a website that we can go to and hear these guys pronounce their names. It's like so simple and obvious that, of course, everyone doesn't do it. Like, please, please. It's such a no-brainer.
Starting point is 00:59:53 And obviously, it would help me so I don't have to get ripped by Jack anymore. Hashtag help out Seltzer. I mean, Seltzer. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, man. That's what I'm saying. And the best part about this is that you uh you first you admitted you had a problem um
Starting point is 01:00:07 and and you were vulnerable and you said hey i struggle with this how can i get better and the fact that you want to get better i think says a lot about you kids so um thanks buddy eggs i'm on my way up you know i'm just yep i'm trying to get better every day. My only final thought is there's no better beer to watch the Phillies this weekend than some fresh cans of high hops. And, yes, I will have to eventually bring some to you. I mean, that would be cool. I mean, you bring it to other people. It's like, oh, I'll bring them to all these other people. They can try it.
Starting point is 01:00:43 But not my guy. It's good yep whatever all about me so um i know it's not like i see you every freaking day or anything but no big i know i know i will i mean this one you should feel bad about but it's okay well soon enough soon enough i'll get i'll get you some so um listen come to the brewery again if you want to talk some launch angle and exit below with my dad he will not know what you're talking about um and uh yeah i mean get some high hops cans and watch some ball games this weekend i think the phillies are on tomorrow and sunday and then they're they're not on tv saturday either way just thoroughly ecstatic like isn, isn't it just so nice to watch them again? Oh, dude, I've had a level of joy,
Starting point is 01:01:29 just like a walking around feeling of joy that I haven't had in a while. Like, it has really bolstered my happiness knowing that they're back. I know, I know. And what sucks, though, is like, I know this, like, it sucks that the prospects are going to be gone soon, and we're going to have to watch players like Bryce.
Starting point is 01:01:50 We're going to have to watch the Phillies. I know. We're going to have to watch players like Bryce and JT. Major League Baseball. It's going to be so tough. Yeah. It's going to be such a bad beat to have to watch Major League Baseball compared to the minor leaguers.
Starting point is 01:02:02 It's so true. I know. I know. It really sucks, but we'll get through it together. Yeah, we will. We will. We'll be right here with you. Rate and review the podcast.
Starting point is 01:02:11 We're on the March to 1,000, and we're going to figure something out, I think. But did we get to 800 yet, Jack? Yeah. I know we were close. Yeah, we did get to 800. So the March to 1,000 is officially on. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:24 So rate and review the podcast it really really really means a lot to jack and i appreciate it too uh five stars preferred but you know we'll take whatever we get um but only five stars yes yes um yeah i mean only five stars and uh more baseball more phillies we'll be back next week. These are for themselves. We'll talk to you later. We'll talk to you later.

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