High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - Just To Be Clear, Jack Always Wore A Cup

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

James Seltzer and Jack Fritz react to the Phillies' brutal finish in Toronto and what the team can do to turn their fortunes around heading into the weekend. Presented by Miller LiteTo purchase Ring The Bell by Jack Fritz and Kevin Reavy go to RingTheBellBook.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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feel a little less alone yo it is another edition of the high hopes podcast sponsored by miller light official partner of the philadelphia philly celebrate uh it tastes like Miller time in Philadelphia. Celebrate responsibly. I'm like Jesus, Luzardo. They're just not getting it done. Jack on that intro man. Does that 19 runs, 19 runs, 20. We got up to 20. So the eighth run was great. 20 runs and two starts.

You got to love it. How you doing, pal? Good to see you. Dude, I'm so mad about Lazardo. I was so ready to say it. It's so annoying. It's so annoying. I hate it. Lazardo was such a win for us, was such a win. All time. And for this nonsense to start happening, you know, I'm starting to think more and more about the last podcast

May should have been so happy they got swept by the Brewers Which one of us was happy they got some by the Brewers that's what I'm wondering which one Maybe that was a big old swing and a miss speaking of swings and misses I don't know if was already got one today. It was I mean, he he got so like, so squared up. It wasn't even like the first thing happened is like, all right, Zeus is back. Zeus is back. We're fine. Everything's gonna be okay. That second inning. So I was still driving back. It was just bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And then I sat down and watch it. My first thought was, I thought he was tipping pitches.

Like I just, I refuse to believe that a guy with that kind of stuff can get squared up the way that he got squared up. Because I, like they, they didn't miss James. I mean, they didn't miss. It was, it was hard contact. It was fastballs were getting destroyed I thought they were sitting fastball change up and just working off of that and just spitting on everything that that spun

but To me it looked like a classic either tipping pitches or maybe it's dead arm He's already surpassed his innings from last year right at the same time. He's throwing 97. I just I year right at the same time he was throwing 97 I just I listen maybe it's something mechanical maybe geysers picking him up in a different way right now but it's jarring dude I mean it is jarring and guess what if they're starting pitching is not great this team ain't going anywhere they're not going anywhere yeah there's no I mean look, scored six runs in the first inning in Toronto and then proceeded to score four more runs the rest of the series.

Chris Bassett seems to is Cy Youngwin or every time he faces the Phillies is great. Love, love. I know you're a big Chris Bassett guy. He's such a he's such a clown. I know, I know. And they just never hit him. And like, to your point, I mean, this team is built on starting pitching. It is the strength of the team. And that's understating it. It's what this team is, is like, it is the one thing where this team is elite. We know that

they're not elite anywhere else. The offense can be really good for stretches of time. I think overall it's a good offense, but we know it's not an elite offense. We know for damn sure it's not elite bullpen. So, and we can, and defensively, far from an elite roster. You know, this is the one aspect of this team that makes it special. And if Zeus isn't on, that's a problem.

Now to your point, I do think, I think it's one of, you know, essentially three possible outcomes. One tipping pitches slash a mechanical issue to dead arm, like you said, or three's got an injury. I think it's one of those three things is the explanation here. I doubt that all of a sudden he's so sorry, just sucks. Like I don't, I can't, I can't get there personally. You know, we saw how he looked his first whatever eight start, nine starts, whatever that was like, he was great. So, you know, it's you know, like guys, not bad starts. We've seen Zach Wheeler have every good pitcher has bad starts.

But the last two games have been to Jack's point, alarming when you see it. And it feels like it's more than just, oh, you know, I didn't have it. Like it feels like there's something else going on here. Well, it's the worst two starts by a Philly starter since 1930. After one of the best like first, however many starts. Yeah, I mean, I think only five pictures have done what Lizardo did. There's first 10 stars as a Philly or whatever. Yeah, I don't even know. I mean, that might feel regardless.

He's pitching to a 2.1 and it was a one nine five. He had a bad three, three or bad first inning against Sacramento. I mean, Sacramento is the A's and then and then was locked down after that. So I just. I listen, I just refuse to believe that I totally agree with you. I do not think Hazel's Lizarra stinks. I think teams have something on them

and they got to figure it out because, I mean, last start you could kind of excuse away. I mean, LA brought up the stat that like the average exit velocity in that was 82 miles an hour. They didn't square them up. That was totally different today. They, they were on every single pitch.

Again, it was like they knew what was coming and that's where my, my antennas go up and it's not excuse making. It is explaining what could be happening here with Aziz Lizardo. I, it was, it was first pitches that they were jumping all over and squaring up. That's really rare. And even when it got to strikes, it was like they knew where it's like they knew what was coming with two strikes and that can't happen. And what, what, what I guess helped further emphasize it is that like as soon as

Lazar came in, as soon as that Johnson came in, as soon as everyone else came in, they weren't all they weren't all over those guys. It was stabilized. Yeah, it was normal. It was perfectly normal. It was just Lazardo. So I, and it even felt like they rushed Lazar in to like oh, yeah I don't know that he was ready at that moment and still you know, you know gave it up a little early What was able to stabilize as well? So yeah, I'm with you, man

I think it's a Great especially because we know like whatever people think of Luzardo. He's a better pitcher than those guys He's more talented than those guys. So Look, I I think this next start for star, or if we find out they're going to skip him or something like, it's a big one, like that to your point. So in that situation, you know, take us inside. Cause I think a lot of, let me explain what it's like to have 97 with St. No, no, the tipping pitches, the tipping pitches possibility.

You know, you hear that a lot, we hear that a lot, but the average eye doesn't catch that. You know, that's not something that a viewer sees when they're watching a game. What could it be if it's that? Cause I think Dead Arm is as realistic a possibility as you know, when we see guys go through Dead Arm and they figure it out and they're okay.

Like it's not the end of the world, but if it is a tipping pitches thing, like what kind of stuff does that like materialize as and also what do they do to like how can they correct this? What is cop them doing? What is what is the team doing to fix it? Speaking of things I love about baseball, there's a couple things here. One, it's just amazing how at any point your arm could just die for a little bit. It's so weird. And then get back like it's like, oh, I'm not done. I'm just dead arm for a little bit.

And I'm good. Speaking of which, I was going to say parallels, parallels. Speaking of which, I'm just all right. So for the high hopes listeners that do not know what's currently going on in my life, it's been an up and down week for Jack. We'll say that. Yeah, it's been awful.

It's been one of the worst weeks of my life. I try to. Here's my problem, right? Here's my problem. I try to have a nice like moment of vulnerability. And you know what I learned this week? No prisoners. Well, you've never taken prisoners. I mean, to be fair, I mean, you give it, you know, you give it. No, but like,

even if someone says something dumb, or makes a mistake, like, you know, you're going to be in the top five, I've just you're just ready for it. You're mentally prepared when it happens like up top five moment right there. Can't wait to see how he spends it like, to be fair, to be fair. I can't wait to see how he spends it like to be fair, to be fair. Well, yeah, but I, I try not to I try not to go low when others are going.

Yeah, I don't think that makes any sense. But walk with me. OK, walk with me here. I had a moment of vulnerability. I was having a beautiful moment with with my son on Monday where I was I was throwing the football. Playing fetch, it sounded like. It was playing fetch. I don't know why everyone got so upset with that.

I wasn't upset with it. It's just it sounds like you're playing fetch. I was playing fetch. I was throwing the football and he was chasing it. I don't know how else to describe it besides it was fetch. I wasn't throwing the football to Walker. Every single time I try to throw it at him,

it just hits him in the chest. I wasn't pelting my barely over two year old son with a football. So I was just throwing it and letting him, and it was one of those, you might've been too old for this, but, and I forget what it's called, but it whistles as it's thrown.

Oh sure, I remember those. Yeah, like Nerf made some of those. It's Nerf, it's Nerf, it's thrown. Oh, sure. I remember those. Yeah. Like that. Like Nerf made some of those nerf. It's nerf. It's something along those lines. So he really just wanted to hear it whistle. You know, I want to hear the football.

You had to throw it farther than you could throw to him anyway, because you got to get going to get the whistle and to really make it whistle. You got to really spin it. You got to whip it. You got to whip it. Yeah, I guess this is all the nuance that you can't get on the

radio and and I had to really throw it. And within five throws, I felt like my bicep was about to rip off my tendon. I'm not gonna lie, I got shook. I love my right arm, been a huge fan of my right arm since I was about nine years old. It's your favorite arm. I mean, come on.

My left arm is useless. I can't do anything with my left. Besides, like, I got quick hands. Like, you know, like I can catch it. Yeah. Everything else is a waste of time. Left handed. Although I do drive left handed.

I, you know, so I, okay. Okay. I drive left handed. But regardless, but regardless, I think I okay. Okay. I tried left-handed but regardless but regardless I think I got spooked and the last couple times that thrown it was it felt like it was gonna rip today Full stretch, you know all the old exercises. Yeah making sure the tendons are all in a good spot had it had a beautiful catch with my brother-in-law. And just the myths were popping.

I mean, the myths were popping. I was, I threw one, like I started long tossing a little bit, I just like crow hopped. And dude, I'm saying like on a line, like on a line that ball was on. That was a quick turnaround for you, quick turnaround. All you had to do was people had to shame you and you're like, all on a line. That's all. Well, it's a quick turnaround for you. Quick turnaround. All you had to do is people had to shame you and you're like, all right, fine. I'm not I'm not sitting there and getting called soft.

I'm not doing it. I don't like a leader of a household. I can't. Yeah, that was a strong line right there. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It seems like, yeah, whatever. There's people who don't understand that I'm do this all with a smile. So you said a leader, I did think that was good. That was like,

not the leader of the household, like not like, you know, you and Jill leaders of your household. That was strong. I was strong. Exactly right. Jill even texted me she was, she texted me and said, like, to, to, like, to paraphrase, like, way to get your manhood back in a way. That's great. I was like, yeah, I would have been like, I would have been like, Hey, I'm

the number two in my household. Okay. I am, I am Emily's right hand man. Damn it. Well, so in reality I am, but I'm trying to, I'm trying to make sure that everyone here knows like Get I need to get the house in order the house in order Did flip I flip one cutter today I threw one cutter to my brother-in-law now the other six were horrible

But after one cutter and was like, I don't know Control you just got those strikes. Your whole mentality right now is Mick Able throw strikes. You are Mick Able. You're not walking guys because the I honestly think the only way you not going to swing. He's not going to swing and he's not a good hitter like just throw strikes. Now the key you need a good infield, the outfield whatever you need a good infield. You need to get some guys out there can actually pick it a little bit. I think the only way you get screwed is like a soft ground ball that is fielded poorly or something like that.

Or you walk him or hit him like the walk him or hit him is by far the best chance to camera. It's not even close. Well, I mean, I don't think I even need an outfield. If I'm completely honest with you. It's strictly strictly that if you actually did that it would be like, and then did it like it would be the. Thank you. Well, because my one buddy. My one buddy texted me today and his brother may or may not have ruined our twenty twenty two season. And he's ready to be the second baseman and he was my second baseman back in adult league. So I suggested on the area Ben Davis to catch today, too. I mean, you know, he can handle himself. Well, so I've always been a big fan thrown to a big target.

Yeah. And you know, I mean, you know, you're in good shape there, man. Well, Ben could also just play first. You know, I don't want to have him. Sure. You want to make him crap. So he's told me his knees are in great shape. Really? He said that on the air. He's because we asked him, we're like, how screwed up your knees. He's like, I'm actually really lucky. He's like, my knees are great. So I actually do think the bett Davis is on the table and Davis big, big Jack Fritz guy. So, and as, as, as supported you that your win on the air. So good, good. Discover the magic of bett MGM casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer.

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And that's that's great. But it's a parallel. The point is dead arm. It happens. It happened to Jack. Now he's back. Dead arm can happen. There you go. Way to lock in. That's why you're the leader of this show, right? That's why you're the leader. A leader.

A leader, Jack. Okay, great. But yeah, dead arm can happen. But at the same time, he's pumping 97 in there. And it's not like the sweeper wasn't sweeping. He threw a couple that were disgusting. And again, why I think it's tipping pitches is he threw a couple sweepers that were nasty

and they didn't even flinch. They didn't even flinch at him. So not trying to make excuses, just kidding. Definitely trying to make excuses because Lazardo, again, I just, I love him. Now at the same time, might be lowering that, that contract extension number. And finally, finally, if he pitches like this, I'm just letting, I mean, like the bullpen is a hundred percent on the table for Hazel's Luzardo. There was, Oh, no doubt, no doubt.

If Ranger out pitches him before the playoffs, like Ranger gets to start Lazzardo, Lazzardo's stuff plays in the pen, dude. Like play, like he actually could, of all the guys we've talked about, he has the best chance to be, I mean Sanchez too, but like for similar reasons, and even I think Lazzardo maybe more,

has the best chance to actually be like Andrew Miller or something for them. This like that kind of effective guy. You see what I did? You know how much I love Andrew Miller. Why would you do that to me? Why would you do that to me? Don't tell me what the good time. I mean, Andrew Miller is, is still the baby.

He's the baby boy. He's he is 20, 2016. Andrew Miller. Yeah, he's my favorite. I mean, it changed baseball that that that that was Tito using him like that. Like that was the first time we saw this like guys coming in, bringing Beth for Lieber in the fifth inning because the fiddle lot orders up the base load on top and he was amazing and it totally changed everything. Honestly, the people don't talk about that enough.

The Andrew Miller run of like I mean like 14 to 18 yeah arguably one of the best relievers I've seen in my lifetime that's what I was gonna say I mean he's top five he's absolutely yeah like other than mo you know other than Rivera like I don't I don't think of that many who I put like there are guys, but you know, like, you know, there's some Hall of Fame, Billy Wagner, and there are guys who like were pretty great. But Miller at his best, I think was right there with those guys, a different type of pitcher, but right there with those guys. Gagne is 03. Was it 03? Yeah, 80 something in a row. 304 or 203 or whatever it was. I mean, or 203 or whatever it was, I mean, have you seen some dudes? Have you have you watched the bonds versus Gagne

that were bonds takes indeed recently? Yeah, not oh, not recently. No, no, no, not not anytime. Should I go back? Is it a well? No, it's just like some I know you're not an Instagrams man, but like it gets it gets in my algorithm once a month and I have to just sit there and watch it. I have to sit there and watch.

I love it. Peak G to sit there and watch. Peak Gagne versus Peak Barry Bonds. So yeah, I just, I mean, he could, Lazardo and again, maybe it's a, it's a workload thing. Like we mentioned, I think he is at 72 pitches. He are 72 innings and last year he threw 66 innings. And we obviously know that he's dealt with a bunch of injury issues in his career. Would be a shame because again, he was having such a great year, but the reality is what the reality is. And he's been injury prone. So it ultimately could be, it could be where he ends up anyway. But again, the problem is, is that with all these guys going to the bullpen, can you trust them to be able to get up two days in a row?

Like, can are they able to pitch back to back days? And that's a huge, huge question mark. So but I don't want to do that yet. We're not there yet. His next star is massive from the standpoint. I mean, and he's gonna be facing the Cubs who are no slouch when it comes to how good an offense can be. Yeah, it's a huge, huge game. who are no slouch when it comes to how good an offense can be.

Yeah, it's a huge, huge game. I'm with you and it's going to be fascinating to see how he looks and see if they've made adjustments and all that stuff. All right. Before we get to Able, because I was thinking, as you said, I'll see if they're able to pitch Jason or I wonder if he's able. But before you table quickly, because I did mention it and I do think that you sometimes will focus on the pitching because, you know, it is the starts and it's the guy on the Hill, you know, it's your specialty and all that stuff. But I do think like, we do have to kind of mention the struggles offensively. And I know that the Milwaukee series had a lot to do with Harper being out, but Harper comes back

game one, you know, they have that massive six run inning and the bats went silent essentially for the next, you know, what is that? The 20, I guess they were an extra anything. So, you know, 20, whatever innings it is like, they just shut it down. Like, you know, like, are you at all concerned or is this just kind of up and downs? What are you, where are you at with the offense right now? Cause I feel like we, during the little lull that it had been, we talked about the Harper injury and that makes sense. And we expected Harper to kind of start slow when he comes back, even despite the Homer. But are you at all concerned about where the offensive right now? You know, it's funny, and I just mentioned this on the on the final out, but I've almost

made peace with with the offense. They are like, I guess where I've come to is that they're good, they're not bad, they're not as good as maybe their records suggest that they are. And it's funny because all we hear, whether it's on the airwaves, whether it's on Twitter, just general talk around town about the Phillies, eh, they didn't add anyone, they're not that good, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then why are you so

upset when they go through these stretches where they don't play very good baseball? You know, it's just like, I don't know what you expected. I agree with you. I think they I think they are one of the six best teams in baseball. I think that they, with a great trade deadline, could be right there in the mix as one of the better teams. They're good, are they great? No, I don't think they're great.

Are they bad? Absolutely not. They're just perfectly fine. And the offense, it's been, we know what they are. Like I just, when they go through these ruts, they feel super stale. I think the stop thing is becoming a bigger and bigger. Well, concerning. Yeah, it's a little concerning.

Well, again, that whole injury thing last year, it was like, haha, haha, we know. Now we know, you know, we'll get stopped back. And you know, we just haven't seen him. The guy from the you know, the second half of 2022 and 2023. We haven't seen them since still. And the, and the, and the OBP at the leadoff spot is under 300. That's absolutely not what you want.

And the, and the at bat on game two with the bases loaded one out was, it was the biggest about of the of the series essentially Yeah, you know again if they win that game you feel fine And they and they should have won that it was the biggest about of the series boom done They should have won that game. They should have won that game, but their problem is is it? For my money they have three zeros in the lineup Bones is zero. I don't care what he does. I don't care.

I agree. I don't care about the singles. I don't care about the average. For the most part, he'll have spurts, whatever. The guys is zero. Kepler's is zero. I mean, an absolute zero. He's hitting under 180 since May 1st.

I mean, he almost hit two home runs today. Don't be a Mason Miller. Great moment. If he can just be Jeff Jenkins. Great. I'd be I'd be thrilled if he can just turn into a Jeff Jenkins role to get a real bat in left field that that signing is looking like a total dud. Marsh. Yes. You can just say centerfield. The centerfield position is a zero and has been whoever's out there. I know Ross has been better this year than not be still down. He's not like two fifties, two forties, whatever he is now. Like it's the position is March zero, zero, zero, the position zero.

At least at least your house plays good defense. I mean, agree, agree, agree. But we're talking about his bats. It is zero in the lineup, no matter. And I know it's the Niner and like a lot of Niners are zero. But to your point, when you got two other zeros, and you don't have it, like, yes, you have sure yes, you have Harper and yes, you have Turner, but those guys have to be so good to raise that that bottom three and they haven't been there. Sure. You know, they've they've all had stretches of being great, not

this year for Harper, but it just it's so much pressure on those guys like they can't so much pressure on those guys. Like they can't succeed offensively if those guys don't come through for them. Totally. It's those three. It's, it's, it's Turner. It's Harper. It's Schwab.

Or short wasn't great. Turner's been great Harper since he shaved his head has been a perfectly fine player, but the power I think is becoming a real talking point. I thought the series great to see him lead it off with the home run. That was awesome. But a lot of one arm swings. I don't think he's right. I mean, that one barely got over the fence. I mean, it was it was a homer, but it was I mean, it was a short home run. It was not a tank. It was not like a wow, look at that power home run. He looks like a line drive. He looked how I thought he was going to look off of coming off the IL. I think that I mean,

he talked after game one about how his arm still isn't right and he said the swelling is down but it's not it's not a 100% but he felt good enough to get out there which felt like code for we lost three straight to the Brewers I need to get back out there for my team which I appreciate the battling it through but I think if if we can appreciate that then we also have to expect not the most production I just he looked he looks still injured to, he looks still injured to me. He looks still injured to me this series. So, and by the way, speaking, I mean, JT also, for as good as he's been here,

currently is a zero offensively. So- Oh yeah, another one. You're right, you're right. And by the way, man, man. Poor one out. Yeah. I mean, that was, you know,

I've said this before in the pod, but anytime JT has to leave a game, I mean, he's one of the literally one of the toughest Philadelphia athletes I've ever seen in my lifetime. The things that guy takes and just keeps on playing this. Like I caught like, I can't imagine some of the stuff that happened to him. I, you know, I never caught anyone throwing this hard as he does, or as he does, he does catches. But like, I mean, it's, I can't, I can't imagine it. Like he is, he is so tough. And for him to like have to get helped off the field like that. I mean, that one of all the ones he's taken that one felt like the one that I would least want to take.

So, you know what I'm saying? So quick ball question. And again, you can, you can argue it at two one five five nine two Ninety four ninety four. Yes, which was worse hose out Alvarez versus the the blue Jays or JT last night. It's a great question. Honestly, probably Alvarez still probably You know buzz and franski buzz and franski said the same thing. I don't know man Buzz and Fransky, Buzz and Fransky said the same thing. I don't know, man. I think Alvarez.

He got a foul tipped straight off of it. I know. Again, I'm not saying I'm sure it's Alvarez. They are the top two. Great call on the Alvarez one. That was tough to watch, man. I liked him too. He was a fun little guy to have.

He wasn't great, but he was better than a lot of the guys we had at the time, yeah. Dude, in that 2020 bullpen? So Buzz and I went through it last night. Oh, God. Why? So that was a doubleheader and game two of Alaska's blew it. And this is both in Buffalo. So game two of Alaska's blew it. Game one, it was Spencer Howard who pitched three and two thirds, which feels a very long start.

I feel like I remember that game, honestly. And I remember it vividly. Yeah, yeah. That's what this podcast was founded on. What is wrong? I was cursed. I said what the bleep is wrong with us? Again, like this is what I'm talking about. Like you do your little Go Birds podcast.

They play once a week and it's like it's very easy. This is not easy This is a real real effort and real commitment. You know, this is not easy It's a lot of work and they played in a minor league stadium at some point at some point We have to hit a blue jay in the stones. There's no doubt about it Yeah, they took jt and they took h Jose Alvarez and there's been no retaliation. I totally forgot Alvarez was against the Blue J's. Like I wouldn't have remembered it was that game. That's crazy.

It was. It was in Buffalo. It was in Buffalo. And then in 2021, that's when the Cigora blow up happened with Gerardi in Dunedin. Also against the Blue J's. Honestly, we just, no more Blue J.ays. I know they've got this play every team thing. Can we fight? Can we start a petition or something to say like Phillies Blue Jays, it's over. They win. You win Blue Jays. Like I'm willing to concede you want it. The Phillies Blue Jays thing, you won and you buried our

souls while doing it. Can we just never see them again? Ever? Like that's, that's honestly, I feel about the friggin blue Jays, Pat Gillick, at least we got Pat Gillick from them, though. He helped them beat us too. Like, I don't know. I like, I don't know what else to say. It's I hate it. Roy Halliday and how to, yup.

And that's it. Like, it's just like, I hate them. And we did fleece him in the holiday trade. That's like the one true win we had against them. Like that, they got nothing out of that. So that is, thank you for getting us there. We needed that little win, but I'm just so dumb with Blue Jays. All right.

Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, just for one quick trip down memory lane. Can't wait, yes, good, good. Spencer Howard, by the way, you wanna talk about what Fritz would have been talking about? Oh, this is a seven inning doubleheader even worse. Oh I forgot about those. You want to talk about an atrocity to the sport. That was my least favorite thing. That was my least favorite thing of all the Mickey Mouse type of stuff and I know we still have the ghostrun

and all that. The seven inning double headers was BS. Like I needed it. Absolute joke. So Spencer Howard somehow three and two thirds, five strikeouts, one earned run. That feels fake. Yeah, I feel like, but it's funny is I remember like when remembering the game,

like I feel like Spencer Howard was pretty good for Spencer Howard. Well, I tell you what, this podcast would have led with Spencer Howard dominating the whole case because hold on. If I if I remember correctly, Aaron Nola has never thrown a complete game as a Philly and they asked them multiple times if you throw a 17 complete game will you count it? Oh, I remember that. Yes, yes, yes. And said, no, just like no hitters should not have counted. Yes. No,

no hitters should not have counted. So, uh, and then Blake Parker took down an ending, took down an ending. Jose Alvarez. Oh God. Jose Alvarez took one right to the gonads and he was done. They brought in Tommy Hunter. They brought in Tommy Hunter. Alvarez are longer longer I feel like. I don't think he pitched for the Phillies again.

You might not have. Like he was, and that was a bad testicle injury. A really bad one. He got taken off in a stretcher and then he pitched for the two. He got taken off in a stretcher. Yeah. That's the other reason. Just to close the loop. Yeah, yeah. That's the other reason just just to close the loop. Why buzz? Franski and I are correct.

I mean, you would assume at least that one player is wearing a cup while the other wasn't, you know, I mean, like that. And I know, look, we've all been hitting the cup before at some point or another. That's still frickin hurts. Like, it's horrible. But I'd have to imagine the baseball no cup there like it just has to be worse yeah oh yeah well and um my worst no cup incident was actually in a football practice yeah I can see that when I played football for one

year and hated it but I landed on a guy's helmet and that was that was I maybe not. Yeah, I never I always work out when I played football. I don't know why I weren't wearing a cup. Not a big cup guy. Football is a cup sport, my friend. Well, hold on. I said I said he never work up in the league. Well, that's crazy. I mean, I know that some guys don't for speed and all that, but that to me, I work up always when I caught and when I played football.

Should that be this? Should that be the title of the podcast? I work up always. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I always work up. I want to make this clear. I want to make this clear. No. So in so in game two, in game two of that series, Velasquez went five, allowed four, Braz Iriad is 7.62 on the year. Brogdon came in, two earned, Braz Iriad is 16.88.

Maris came in and then Reggie McLean. Reggie McLean. Wow. Reggie McLean is a name I probably wouldn't... If I went through and did the whole list of the Ramon Rasos and all the guys that we went through then, I would not have remembered Reggie McLean. I remember when you say it. I would have. You probably would have. As soon as you said it, I'm like, oh yeah, Reggie McLean. But I don't think I would have been able to pull Reggie McLean from my brain

without you saying it. An absolutely dynamic change up, Reggie. It should have been him. Should have been him disappointed. I think he's like he pushed on like all these world baseball classic teams, like on the bad teams. He's still around. Reggie McLean, he keeps switching nationalities so he can play on different.

Exactly. You got to do what you got to do, man. Yeah. Keep your name in the headlines. Do you think we're fitting the current zone of the Phillies baseball? Well, again, I was going to say, like, I mean, we probably talked about the Phillies Blue Jays series for like five minutes or so. Sucked. 30 plus minute pause. Yeah, who cares? I'll ask a question about it before and then we will get to Mick and then we can take back and stuff. But I do I do think the Justin Crawford thing is starting to kind of pick up

steam as a talking point more where the more and again, the Marsh play on whatever game two, I mean, look, I never thought March was going to get to it. I do think a better center fielder does get to anything of Ross. We're any he gets that ball. But I never expected Marsh to get it. You know, when that ball was in the air, I was like, oh, he's not getting there. And I, you know, I honestly thought maybe Kepler will get there. Because I was like, I don't think I didn't either shot.

So but I do think with, you know, Marsh and, and Rojas obviously being zeros played and, you know, when Marsh does play center and struggles, I do think you start to hear the name Justin Crawford brought up more and more, especially as he continues to hit in AAA. And I saw an interesting point, I think it was from the good fight on Twitter, I can't remember, I apologize, whoever it was, but the idea of also the concept of, you know, if Justin Crawford is going to be something for you in the playoffs, right, like getting a look at him before the trade deadline is an interesting thought to know how badly you have to trade for his center fielder, you know, so at the major league level. So I do think there's a lot of levels to this where look, and the flip side is he's 21 years old. Jack, Jody Mack, shout

out baseball legend, our guy, Jody Mack, baseball talking, talking about baseball many years. And his dad was general manager of a majorly baseball team. So I mean, yeah, sure. But look, we know more about baseball. But you know, I love Jody, I'm giving Jody a shout out and his daughter, Maddie, a fan. I hope shout out to Maddie. Love Maddie. Mad he's awesome. The only reason for my reaction is I a little a little sharp tongue this morning. That's why. Yeah, Maddie McDonald. Fantastic.

Jerry McDonald. A lot of work to do a lot of work. But he brought up a good point that, you know, we know how young that is, but there are only four players in the league who are 21 years old or younger for in all of baseball. So you know who they are this season? Yeah, four in all of baseball. So at least started this season.

Yeah, it was Jackson Churio, Jackson Merrill, Jackson Holliday, and Junior Camp, I know which is really funny, and Junior Campanaro, which was annoying because Joe was like, can I guess? And he just, he's like, Smith, Jackson. And then it was like, oh, I got it right. Cause I said Jackson. It was like, no, no, no, dude.

The first name Jackson, that doesn't count. Well, one member of this podcast has both Jackson holiday and Jackson choreo in one league. And then in my other big league, I've Jackson Merrill Jackson. Merrill for me is the most underrated player in baseball. Like he is Jackson Merrill is phenomenal, phenomenal, good, and even close. Yeah. And he's again, as young as he is, the crazy thing is, is if we had talked

about 21 year olds last year, Bobby would have been one of them. So, you know, I mean, Bobby, pretty special. Bobby, I have a I, I in a totally joking and I hate Bobby. What I traded Bobby with for Zach Wheeler and then did not keep Zach Wheeler two seasons ago. So Bobby, what will be back to back fantasy championships. I love that man. I love it. Oh, by the way, for someone who's quitting on fantasy,

it seems like you're still leading a run in the WIP league. Well, the funny thing is that I'm not even trying. My team has a winning record. I forget to set my lineup. I had like a weak ride, an IL guy. I'm sorry, Bobby Whit was 22, 21. He's turned 24 now, so he's a little good job. I mean, bad job. I mean, bad job. But he was 21. He was good at 21 in the majors.

He's Bobby Witt Jr. I mean, the bad job. I thought for some reason, I do. Can I just tell you, as I'm getting older in here, I'm really like, putting years together and years are flying by and I'm not like tracking it as well. Like I was I'll just like be bad at tracking ages and stuff other than my own. You know what I mean? Well, it's like it's like Julio Rodriguez. He's been in my life for that's the point. Like I feel like these guys are children now and they're not anymore. Well, Julio is 23. Well, Julio 23.

Julio's. And there's there's. And he's cooked, apparently, so, you know, there's receipts of me texting people saying I can't say he's driving me nuts. And then I keep looking at him like, well, it's only 23. So you want to. It's important to stick to the. Oh, go ahead. We want to fix a fix for the outfield problem.

Launching a straight for Julio Rodriguez and see how that goes. Yeah, sure. For real, though, the Crawford like, are you starting to get more? Are you there more? Because, you know, I know that you kind of you want to make sure he's ready. We all do. But like you get in there

more. Is it possible it's it's sooner rather than later? So let's get into Jackie nuance here. OK, because it's not as simple as it's not as simple as OK, bring them up. Because it's not as simple as it's not as simple as, okay, bring them up. And it's not as simple as don't bring up. He's got, he's got to develop on the side of don't bring them up. He's got to develop.

I think they're crazy. Like he is, we brought up Johan Rojas on the 2023 Phillies with only double A experience where he wasn't lighting the world on fire. So like if you feel comfortable bringing Rojas up, now I get it, Rojas is a better defensive player than Justin Crawford is, but at the same time you felt comfortable doing that with Johan Rojas, I would feel comfortable doing something similar with Justin Crawford. The and then on the side of this guy's like a great, great prospect, look at his numbers, I think they're wrong. At the same

time, too, because he you want to talk about ripping the baseball into the ground. His ground ball rate is over 60%. It's over 60%. That is insane. Like that's an insanely high number. So I don't want to just do numbers, whatever. Like the problem with calling him up, and I know that people don't want to hear this,

is you're essentially pulling the plug on one of those guys. I mean you're pulling the plug on Marsh or you're pulling the plug on Rojas and just going with Justin Crawford which in a vacuum is fine. I just don't know how a major league team views that because the major league team views it as Marsh playing good baseball for us and he's been okay at the dish that's coming back. He plays an okay center field and he's an important part of this team. And then Rojas plays a great defensive center field and is progressing at the bat. You can't bring up Justin Crawford to play once a week in my opinion.

I would rather him play five times a week down in Lehigh Valley or six times a week, in my opinion, I would rather him play five times a week down in Lehigh Valley or six times a week because I actually liked the move by Miami baseball. They go 16 series. So they go Tuesday to Sunday, whatever. I'd rather him play like six times a week, five times a week in AAA. But at the same time, they're getting no production out of center field. And I think that they need to spark. The other thing is that I think that Justin Crawford is closer to Marsh in center field than he is Rojas in center field and

and maybe and hopefully he's right in between that because he's more athletic right I mean like he is he is really fast insanely fast I mean him and Trey are are two of the faster players in the game so fast. I mean, him and Trey are two of the faster players in the game. So I just think that it's, I would love if they call Justin Crawford up 100%. Like, I think this team needs an injection of life. I think that bring him him up will be a lot of fun, whatever. I don't think he's totally ready. I don't. And I think the strikeout numbers are still there. He's not like a Stephen Kwan type who is consistently putting the bat on the baseball.

But at the same time, like he gets like two hits a night and it's mostly infield hits. So it's tough to totally see how that translates to the big league level because those guys will make those plays and AAA they won't. But at the same time, you're getting nothing out of the position.

So what's the downside? I think I think mentally he can handle it. I know people have that concern. Well, he's 21. Do you want to bring him up? And if he fails, dude, this kid's been in a major league clubhouse since he was born. I'm not worried about it. I'm just not worried about it. Totally. So yeah, listen, I'm fine with it. I think Kemp gets brought up first. I do. I think Kemp is, I think Kemp is knocking on the doorstep because of what Weston Wilson has not totally done and what Max Kepler has not totally done. And he continues to just put up numbers down there. But Otto Kemp at the same time, if you want to start talking about like the nuance of Auto Camp, not seeing breaking balls very, very well.

He's striking out a good amount. He rips fastballs, which is great. Do teams adjust to him and do they? Breaking ball to death, you know, which in the majors, those guys can do that a lot better than they can in the minors like that. And they have and they have much better breaking balls. That's why they're in the majors. Look, I I think you made a great point about like Ria is a great line for where she

calls it the family business with these guys who are like athletes of athletes, kids and so on and so forth. And it's like it is his family business. I get Justin Crawford has spent to your point his entire life around baseball. He has been in Major League Park his entire life. He's I think that's a matter. We've talked about this and so many other sports like Steph Curry and all these guys where, you know, when you're a kid and you're shooting on a hoop in an arena, you know, when the player warming up and you're hanging out and doing that stuff, like that

doesn't feel as big to you when you're an adult because you've been there, you've felt it, you've been through it when you're in a dugout as a kid, like it just doesn't feel as big. So I'm really with you. And he understands what it takes to be a professional. His dad, you know, he saw it and his dad is there to help him and all that stuff. He has so many resources for that. So like, I feel great about the mental part of it with him. And look, you never know it, there's all kinds of different players and people and stuff, but you think that at least I think that the issue is more, is he going to be a upgrade? And I just don't see how, I don't see how he could be worse, man. Like I'm at the point,

where at the very beginning, at the very beginning, before you said how the organization views March and Rojas and would they want to give up on one of them? You're like, people aren't going to want to hear this. And I'm thinking, as you're saying, like, you're right. Like, I don't want to hear this, like, I don't care. I know. I don't you know what I mean? Like, and I know it wasn't you saying it, you were talking about the organization feels, and I'm like, I don't care. Like, I've seen enough of Brandon Marsh to know that he is not a starting player on a great team. Like, I've seen it. I know, like maybe as a

left fielder, and you're nine hitter. Okay, like, okay, like if you have a really good lineup, that's fine. You know, but, but he can't be the starting center fielder for this team in the playoffs. Like he's not close to a good enough hitter and not a good enough fielder. Like he's just not there. And at least with Justin Crawford, there's hope there's upside. This guy was a, a, a better prospect. And I know Marsha was a good prospect once upon a time. I know he was, but he was never as good a prospect as Crawford.

He was never as highly raised Crawford. He wasn't as high a draft pick as Crawford. Crawford is more pedigree. And on top of that, he's been better in the minors. I think that I know 21's young, but I just think at this point, this team needs to this, and they need something and why not? And he's so fast, like the speed will play, he will get even if he doesn't get all the infield

hits, he will get infield hits, he will be something that teams have to account for in the base paths in a way that they don't with March, like not that March is slow, but he's not Justin Crawford, like, I think that I just at this point, unless they're going to trade for a centerfielder, which I'm fine with that too, I just I don't think that's a super easy thing to accomplish. Like unless they're going to trade for a centerfielder. And by the way, bring up auto camp. Now I'm fine with that Weston Wilson ain't

it. And, and like Kepler is to your point, and you know, I like Kepler to a degree as a as a flyer. But he's, he hasn't been good enough. There's no question about it. And I don't know why he's just the everyday left fielder. So I like, I think they have to make some changes here. Like they can't just keep kind of, because to your point, they are good. They're a good team. They're not a bad team, but they are absolutely not great. And they're not even like sniffing great right now. The only way they can become great is if they make changes because a lot of these, like, I don't think JT

is gonna become a better hitter all of a sudden or a massively better hitter all of a sudden. You know, and they, there are positions that they can make changes at, left field, center field. Like those are things you can do something about and try and shake this up. Do it. Well, and look what mckay was done. I mean mckay ball. He has not shown this level of command of his fastball in minor league baseball. He just hasn't and which is shocking. I mean,

he's also something with Crawford. You can look at and be like me, you know, sometimes guys do come up and and do it at the major league level, you know? And I just, I really don't care about his age. I really don't. He doesn't carry himself like a 21 year old. He is incredibly mature for his age. He has a big league feel to him. My one thing when you were saying all that

and just trying to read their minds a little bit is are they more interested in? Hey, this kid's hitting 340 down AAA, to trade every diamond. You sure you don't want to make him the the focal point of one of these trade things. That's interesting. And then it gets brought up and maybe it gets exposed. And then you're at a risk of, well. That's a great point. It's a great, we just don't know that it's all about

what their plan is for Justin Crawford and what their plan is at the trade deadline and the pieces they're willing to move and the pieces they aren't willing to move. But if he's on that list for them with Miller and Painter and Arun hopefully, and Tyeet hopefully, like if he's on that list for them and they and Painter and Arun, hopefully, and Tait, hopefully, like if he's on that list for them and they're like, listen, we'll trade Mick, we'll trade, you know, Otto, we'll trade this, we'll trade that. But Crawford is our center fielder of

the future. If that's the way they view it, then then that gets thrown out the window. But you're right. That's a very, very fat possible and fascinating thought, you know? So again, we'll say I would love for it. I think the team needs an injection of life. They need some kind of new blood. That's why Mick Abelsman so fun the last two starts, because like, wow, look at one of our guys that has come through the minor leagues

and like you're starting to see the fruits of all the labor of these of these young kids and, and having their moments and dude, having Justin Crawford come up and, and make an impact and steal time basis. And Hey, the, the funniest part about Justin Crawford is that every single level they're like, yeah, we got to improve the ground ball rate. We got to improve the ground ball rate. We got to improve the ground ball rate. We got to improve the ground ball rate. We got to improve the ground ball rate. And then he's hitting like three thirty every single level, you know?

So maybe it's just who he is. Maybe it's who he is. And then maybe three. Again, he's one of the fastest players in baseball. If there is anyone who is going to be able to succeed with a high ground ball rate, you would guess it'd be the fastest players in the sport, right? I mean, logic, sure, sure. So listen, I would be all in, it'd be a lot of fun. It still feels a little early, unfortunately. But I think I think auto, I keep saying auto, because I don't care. But it feels like campus is closer to a real call up situation. Again, I think Dave Dabrowski being down in Charlotte

is not nothing. And I know that these guys go on tours to see the minor league teams. The fact that he was able to travel to Charlotte to go and watch that team is not nothing. It wasn't in Norfolk, you know, and they were in Virginia. So he's trying to get his eyes on someone and obviously Painter threw together tonight. So he's having it. He's trying to get his eyes on on someone and obviously painter threw together tonight

so Maybe it's maybe it's one of those two or maybe it's just painter or maybe he was meeting with Tony Larissa for He did he did Don't Is it or not? All right Let's just throw anything else you got on, but you could do the take bag with it. Take bag slash if you got any more on Mick, but it was, we didn't dive deep on Mick, you know.

It's just, it's awesome. It's awesome to see what he was doing again. It's only two starts, but you do like to see it again. It's not a juggernaut, but Toronto, a vastly better line up than Pittsburgh. Exactly, yeah. But I think at the same time, he just threw the fastball

in a in a very special way. I just I don't I don't want to get ahead of myself. I'm just telling you what his basketball you never do. You're not you're known for you know, not getting ahead of yourself and not making bo bobokarations, bold proclamations about... Whoa! You're hosting the... You're hosting the morning show tomorrow? I'm tired, man. I'm tired.

All right, buddy, I'm doing the best I can here. All right. But like the way he was able to use his fastball and have the secondaries not look as great as they did against the Pirates, it was very Wheeler-esque. Now, it's not Wheeler, it's like Mini Wheeler, it's like Wheeler of lights,

but the fastball is a really, really good pitch. And the fact that he's able to throw it up and in and then bring it down, add some sync to it, I just think that that pitch is a dynamite pitch for him. Every other secondary didn't look great, you know, to be honest with you. But the fact that it will keep them pretty off balance up until, you know, the sixth inning and the sixth inning. I mean, the guy pushed on four days rest.

I mean, he asked you're asking a 23 year old to do that. That's that's not easy. So, you know, it's not. Yeah, no, not easy as I was going to say. Is there another word you could have said after the not not smart, but you know, it's not practice, but whatever. OK, sure. Yeah. Regardless, I know more

that that baseball pitch. Yeah, yeah. Marsha had the baseball. I'd never expect him to, but like he should have got a better jump on the ball. Like it was that ball hung up there to a bit. It felt like it felt like he had it like he should have. He should have been closer to it.

I know he got to it kind of like it. I I didn't expect him to catch it, but I agree. I think Rojas absolutely catches it, you know. Yeah. Kirkering was great though. I mean Kirkering yet again. That was a big, big spot too. And a really nice job.

Huge spot. And those three, I mean, Sean had a nice bounce back spot. Those three, I think you feel pretty good about. I'm not losing a ton of faith in Romano Because I think that the stuff still looks fine It's just how how like how are they getting to 27 else tomorrow? Can you explain to me how they're getting 27 out tomorrow? Lazar through one and two thirds Johnson Seth Johnson through two winnings

Now Taiwan took down one. Do you feel okay with him coming back in in in? Well, that's what I mean Taiwan will pitch tomorrow, I think at some point. But I would think with any pitch today. I know it's a great point, but that's what he's got to learn to do. Right. Like if he's going to be reliever, he has to learn to be able to pitch on back to big days and it seems like a good opportunity for it. But yeah, I mean, it's when I didn't realize it because I hadn't looked at the schedule and I was listening to Franski

and Stocker on my long trip down, especially with the way the game went. And I didn't realize it was a bullpen game, or as they're talking about Lazardo. And I'm like, dude, like, and at the same time you're sitting there being like, all right, we'll take Lazardo out. We're not doing this again. Like, you know, don't make him die on the vine and give up, you know, 40 runs and two starts. But at the same time, it's like, man. Tomorrow could be a bloodbath.

All we have to do is this. With to go to Pittsburgh and now, I mean, JV lineup, minor league lineup, which is great. That's how I don't care. We're desperate. What is an old prank from the PSAC days? League lineup which is great that's a hell. I don't care we're desperate. This is an old prank from the PSAC days. Oh yeah. When you go to the field the night before and you turn the hose on and you just water the entire field. Oh get a rain out this is I love this this is this is like Bad News Bears movie type stuff you know. You want to know how

This is like Bad News Bears movie type stuff, you know. You want to know how sad that we've gotten to? Yeah, I'm begging for a rain out against the virus. Yeah, respond insane and pray for rain tomorrow, buddy. Yeah, we're begging for rain out against the virus tomorrow. Morgenstien, Morgenstien made it seem like it was about to be a hurricane in Pittsburgh. I looked, it was 30% at four o'clock. Oh, Morgan Sign. Yeah. Unbelievable stuff from Justin Morgan Sign.

It ain't even going to rain. It's really going to rain. But we're praying for rain. If we if we can go out, I'll spit on the field. I don't care. Whatever, whatever it takes. Maybe maybe the lineup will show up and put up at the 13 spot. Back up their pitchers. Well, Bailey Falters had a good year.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Don't let all the old guys. Release. Deep release. I love that. I'm all in.

I remember I was the the latest that it left the hand and all of baseball, I believe, like the closest to the batter. Tell me that's not hard. It's closer to them. Come on. The fourth, fourth longest extension in the league is is Bailey Fulter. I feel like he was first when he was a Philly though, right? For a moment there was he number one?

I think so. But at this point, this point, they've learned there are other really folders out there now. Yep. So Bailey Fulter tomorrow feels like seven shoddy but whatever we're praying for rain our official statement is we're dying for a rain out we're dying for a rain out on that's right against one of the worst teams in baseball but yeah so but mckay was great I thought the basketball commandball command was great. Everything else was kind of shaky Chris Sanchez, I thought that he has been fighting himself this entire year Even though he went six innings it hasn't been the same he walked for the command needs to get better

I I have faith that the command will get better because I think that Gotham and crew will do that. Kirkering had a good week Strom had a good week. Strom had a good week. That's my overall thought. Seth Johnson was interesting today, whether or not you want to admit it. He did allow run because they all did. And then in a, in a, in a different situation, probably a different story, but I think at the same time, 97 plays 97 and 99 plays so I'm not Seth Johnson'd up but there was some interesting stuff from Seth Johnson all right uh do I have anything else in the

bag oh dude you know what last thing last thing last thing just to make sure that we get this to an hour look we're here we're here I so whenever I feel like whenever I say before a pod, like, oh, we don't have to go an hour or anything. We always go an hour. It's like the ultimate lock that we will actually go. I was like, I don't really have anything to say. I don't know if I actually did say anything. Like, there's any any real value to anything I said, but, you know, we did it. So what made today worse is we couldn't even laugh about the Braves. We couldn't even laugh at what the Braves are currently going through.

I know. I saw you quote, tweeting some brave stuff and getting into it, feeling it for a moment. And hold on. Did you even see the game today or do you have no idea what I'm talking about? No, I saw on Twitter. I saw on Twitter what was going on. Yeah. So I didn't see what actually happened with the Braves. I just saw the Braves fans complaining. So what happened?

Oh dude, they were up 10-4 in the ninth and blew it. No way! Yeah. I'm in AC, I was driving down the whole thing. That's amazing! Dude, Scott blew it. Scott blew it, allowed five runs in the ninth. Blew it?

Oh God, that's the best thing ever. I'm so happy that happened. Blew it, blew it. Scott blew it allowed five runs in the night. Oh, God, that's the best thing ever. I'm so happy that I haven't looked at it. And then a glacis allowed three glacis allowed three. We can't even totally laugh about the break. I know we can't. She's got walloped. You know. Yeah. Yeah. They lost by less runs than we did if we want to be real about it. But they blew six run lead the ninth. So lead in the ninth, which is really worse.

Which is really worse. Oh, I would much rather lose the way we lost. Just a normal loss. Yeah, I was over. I didn't stress about the game at all. By the time it was 7-0 or whatever, I was like, we're good. We're cool. Yeah.

So that's all I got. We're cool. Yeah. Yeah. So that's all I got. That's all I got. All right. So two or three. And I don't know, man. How about this? Two or two? And they they won't reschedule. They'll do a double header. All right. So three or three, you think? I mean, a double header doesn't help that much either. Not at all. Actually hurts. So three or three, you think? I mean, a double header doesn't help that much either. Not at all. It actually hurts. So I, uh,

triple header on Sunday. Is that happening? The most important thing that can happen is they need Ranger and Chris Sanchez to go out and give them seven strong. Yeah. Big time. As simple as that. Cause the bullpen is in a dicey situation. Dicey. If you had to bet on one of the two going seven who'd you bet on? uh Suarez I would too that's what I was thinking Suarez yeah bullpen game should be interesting all right I did it might need to crack some Miller lights might need to crack some Miller lights

before oh my god bullpen game on a Friday night in Pittsburgh. Get me. Oh, buddy. All right. We'll be back after the weekend series, unless like if it's horrible, like we'll be here. Shut up. We'll be here. OK, OK, OK. OK, we'll be here. We'll talk on Sunday. All right. Either way, Sunday or Monday, probably Sunday.

I'm around Sunday. All right, we'll figure it out. Thank God. What will we do? What we do? It's a miracle. I'm just making sure we get to an hour. We did a little filling time before and I know you wanted to get to the hour mark. It's important. I'm hungry. I'm going to bed, buddy. I can't wait.

All right. Don't give me that. You are tired. You have two kids. You're not allowed to do this anymore. You know that being tired sucks and it's a thing and I've had enough of it. Thank you. Last night I went to bed at around 12. I was about 5 45. The key is you got to take magnesium before sleep. I'll say I'll send you my magnesium pills. Guarantee you'll wake up feeling like a different man. I felt I'm 100 percent. I'm tired. Will not mask that. But I'm doing it.

There's there's there's there are things out there for you. Magnes magnesium before sleep so you woke up almost three hours after I do so just It's fine. I went to bed three hours after you did I know but there's something about it. We don't need to get it I love you pal. All right, we will talk to you guys after the weekend until then he's fed some shelter