High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - Phils Win 8-4, Bryce Gets 1000th RBI & Thoughts On Nola/Abel

Episode Date: May 17, 2025

Jack Fritz reacts to the Phillies comeback win over the Pirates on Friday night and also discusses the latest on Aaron Nola's sprained ankle with Mick Abel expected to make his debut on Sunday. Presented by Miller Lite To purchase Ring The Bell by Jack Fritz and Kevin Reavy go to RingTheBellBook.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Smiling through a broken nose. Oh, high hopes, high hopes. And heaven went by. I feel a little less alone. High hopes, high hopes There's a way to ride It's how I feel a little less alone All right, a lot to get to tonight on a little solo edition, a little Friday night edition of the High Hopes podcast. Jack Fritz, hanging out with you as we react to a Phil's win tonight, 8-4 over the Pirates. Looked a little dicey there for a second, but either way, the Phillies were able to prevail.

And you know what makes tonight just that much sweeter is when you can take a game from your bitter rivals that the Pirates are, it just makes a game like that that much sweeter knowing that again, you're facing one of your biggest rivals and just making them go home crying. That's what rivalry week's all about in Major League Baseball. I mean, what a concept.

Baseball's gotten a lot right recently. This is basically just, hey hey let's look at the let's look at the map and decide that these are all these teams natural rivals whatever it's fine playing the Pirates they play them every year it's not like some huge rivalry but you know you get the point either way it looks a little dicey there for a little portion of the game tonight but thankfully on the backs of a lot of walks, they were able to pull one out and were able to come back and win a ball game in the game. They should have lost. And you know, one of the big things from tonight is that I thought

Ranger was great. I thought on that one pitch, he missed his spot by a foot. You know, Ranger for a majority of tonight, and by the way, went out for an inning after that, which was good, and I think it showed that Rob Thompson has a lot of confidence in Rangers Swores, obviously, and it was perfectly fine. He made one bad pitch. Rangers Swores dominated tonight. I don't, what stinks is that one pitch

is gonna maybe overshadow what was another really strong effort from him, and it just continues to look like like he looks closer to the guy that you saw at the beginning of last year. That's what I've seen from Rangers Warriors so far. And it's really just the pitch ability that he has, whether it's, you know, rushing fastballs in and then going to change it away and then maybe going fastball in and then going curve ball off of it. He is in

that mode right now where it's so hard for these guys to pick up what he's throwing or have any rhythm to where he's going or have any plan when they go up there. It's a lot of just read and react. And when you're a pitcher, when you can command both sides of the plate in the way that Rangers swore as can and keep those guys guessing and keep those guys on their toes, it makes him that much harder to hit. So I thought Ranger,

obviously besides the one bad pitch, was brilliant tonight. I thought he was absolutely brilliant. First start, wasn't the most dynamite in the world tonight. Certainly was closer to the Cleveland start. And it was that. So I think tonight was a, a, another step forward for Rangers Wars. But you know, the other big takeaway from the game tonight, it's kind of been,

it's kind of been for the last about week and a half where they're not doing much damage against starting pitching again. Now, Andrew Heaney is someone who, for majority of his career, has not been a very good pitcher. He was highly touted. It feels like, actually it might be a decade ago,

he was a Marlin. He's been around forever. And he's always been one of those like analytic darling kind of guys and all these, I guess, quote unquote forward thinking franchises would take a shot on him. Because I think that his fastball is one of those really, really special kind of pitches that teams dream on.

So he has a bit of funk to him. And to his credit, the last, I would say, you know, year and a half, he's figured it out. I mean, heading into the game tonight, he was pitching to a 3.15 ERA. So it's May 16th. It's not like that is a super, super small sample size. So he's crafty sure

But overall like they haven't done a great job against starters recently the something gray outing was great. But besides that They haven't exactly been doing a job. They've scoring a good amount of their runs late and I think where you give them I think Where I'm at with them when they play teams like the Pirates and these other, I mean, the Rockies are this week and they're playing these bottom theaters is obviously you would like to mix in a laffer. And given the current state of the bullpen and having to use Alvarado tonight is beyond annoying, but you know, mixing in a laffer obviously great, but just don't, those don't have one of those inexcusable losses against a bad team and that's what tonight was kind of trending towards was is this going to be an annoying loss against a Pirates team that you have no business losing to? Not to bring everything back to odds but I mean heading into the game tonight there were like minus 200 or 220 favorites so that's not a game that you should lose at all.

So they scratched the claw, they found a way out of it. Johan Rojas, big at bat, late in this one. They scratched out eight walks. And I think when you're looking at reasons to be optimistic about the current state of the team and the team going forward here is Offensively, I think we're looking at a shift. I know Rob Thompson will come out and he will say that this team slugs They don't I mean that's not

Really how they're built, you know, this is a team that is Gets their ducks on a pond. They Have to string together some base hits, they have to be really, really locked in with runners scoring position, they have to be really good with two outs and runners on because that's how they're going to score their runs. Obviously Schwab reconnects to the ballpark, but besides him, you know, Bryce is again, 25 to 30 home run guy. And after that, you know, it's a bunch of 15 to 20 home run guys. That's not exactly an offense that is, quote unquote, built a slug. But they are an offense that has done a better job so

far this season at putting the bat on the baseball, not striking out a lot, taking their walks, passing the baton to the next hitter, using the opposite field. And I think when you see them buying into what they were preaching in the off season at this point in the year, And really since the Mets series, I think you feel pretty good about that.

So, is it, I don't wanna make declarations on how this can go in October. But I will say that I like this style of offense heading into October because the boomer bus stuff, while home runs are great, and I do think that you need home runs in October, obviously, but they can't be the engine to your offense. And I think that's the thing that causes an offense

to stall in the post season is when it becomes too home runner bust. And believe me, when the home runs are flying out of the ballpark, it's great. I mean, we all remember the first two games of the Diamondback series, but this kind of offense, I just think is more versatile.

And this is the kind of offense that can lead to some success in the postseason. And you're not gonna go through, you're hopefully not gonna go through those big spells where they're just not scoring any runs. So was it perfect? No, obviously Hitting starters is going to be important, especially in postseason baseball and again not to make everything about the postseason but it feels almost impossible not to and watching everything every single game because

I think we've gotten to the point In the season where everything is kind of settled down First month of the season hot and month of the season, hot and heavy reaction. I mean, hot and heavy reaction. And you sit here now it's May 16th. They're what a game and a half out of first place. They've stabilized themselves. They've settled into the season.

You're seeing some good developments in the bullpen. Jordan Romano and nine pitch inning tonight. Another solid, solid performance from him. Now, the first batter was terrifying. You know, he walks McCutcheon on four pitches, his fastballs at 92, and a slider did absolutely nothing. So I'd be lying if I said I wasn't immediately nervous, but he got the double play and got out of it. By the way, they sit on the the broadcast the Pirates have grounded into the Most double plays in the National League that feels impossible. I watched the Phillies this entire year that feels absolutely impossible

so I Really do think that that they have settled into the year and I think the fan base has settled into the year You know, there's there's little things and we'll get to Nola You know, obviously the bright situation good to see him go three or four tonight. Obviously it wasn't two home runs and a bunch of RBIs, although congratulations, we have, he finally got his 1000th RBI. I was praying. He got his 1000th RBI and then next batter, Shorver exits the ballpark and he gets his 300th home run,

but it was not meant to be. So, but yeah, so it was a good night from the standpoint of Bryce went three for four, he got a walk. You take that at this point, all of a sudden, average is up to 248, but again, I just, there's little things, but I think fan base wise, I think team wise, we can all accept that they're a good baseball team.

They're not a dumpster fire. They're not bad. Are they great? We'll see. I mean, I mean, we'll see. I think they're at least squarely in the mix. They are squarely in the mix as one of the better teams in the National League and the question is is is whether or not that's good enough for people and

I think at this current standpoint as we are Two and a half months from the trade deadline Keep it afloat be in a good spot and and let's see what happens when July 31st rolls around. The following was recorded from inside an ice plunge. Okay all right what a course life is cold enough the mountains on the can turn blue so the next time you want to cold loggered, cold filtered, cold packaged Coors light, just wait until those glorious mountains on the can turn blue. It's easy to say that fast when you're freezing gold. So, again, I think that they're they're playing pretty good baseball. This is an

important week to to gain ground on the mats. They're obviously playing the Yankees this weekend. You have the the Pirates and you have the Rockies out in Colorado. And I know out in Colorado has been a house of horrors for this team, but still you have to go out there and take care of a job against a team that still has not won 10 games so far this season. So yeah, overall, again, it's not gonna be the most,

it's not always gonna be the most pretty, but at least they found a way to come back and win this one tonight and take a ton of walks and have patience at that and just feel comfortable passing the baton to the next guy. And if they get more and more comfortable doing that kind of stuff, I think it's only gonna lead to better results

as the season rolls along and as we head toward postseason play. So 8-4, would have loved to just kept it at 8-3, did not need Jose Everada to come to this game. That felt like a spot that might've been too big for Daniel Robert. I guess they want to see how he would handle it. And given the first go round in that kind of spot,

he certainly did not handle it well. So overall you take the win, but we definitely like to start hitting some starters. Now some other things to get into. Now the big one is, is Nola. So we talked on, I mean, on the final out after his, his, his outing the other night, we talked on the podcast that came out yesterday about Aaron Nola and is he dealing with something physically?

And I know I use the term phantom IL. This one actually, it kind of makes sense. I mean, in watching his last art, I did not think he was able to drive through and drive down the mound and an ankle injury does make some sense. Now my pushback would be, okay, well, if you know he's dealing with an ankle injury that's not going down and swelling. Why is he being? Why is he hanging out there to dry that that feels ridiculous to me, but whatever It's May 14th or May 15th or May 13th from that game happened so

but 13th from that game happened. So, but Phantom IL, Real IL, whatever, I think it's a semi-relief that he was dealing with something and I don't totally dismiss that he was dealing with an ankle injury, but it's pretty remarkable that this is the first time he's hit the IL since 2017. And it really does show you how valuable Aaron Nola is for a baseball team and how he does take down a ton of innings. And I just think this could be a good kind of mental reset for him. Now at the same time, I think we've gone too far from the standpoint of he has had some good games this year.

It has not been a total dumpster fire. I noticed the RAs over six right now, but there's been some flashes and I just watch him and I don't think he's a guy who's totally cooked. I don't think he's a guy who's just done. I think he's going to go on the IL for 15 days, miss a couple of starts and come back and I think get right back on track and be mostly fine. Is he gonna have the bleep and null outings? He's always gonna have the bleep and null outings. But to just say that he's done and he shot,

I don't buy that at all. I really don't. And I do mostly buy the ankle injury. I think it's a plausible excuse for why he was not able to to get some finish on his pitches the other night. And I just I kind of expect him to come back from from the I'll be mostly fine. Now, what is exciting is who is taking his place in in make able. And I am just so happy that we're here and we're having this conversation and it's not a

pity call-up Because we've seen pity call-ups. They happen he's earned this and for those of you that That haven't been following the mick abel journey, you know, he's kind of written off prospect wise I would say midway through last season. And I think his trade value completely declined. I don't think there's many teams out there vying for makeable services. And you know, it's unfortunate because the kids what 22 last year, 23 this year, he's

super young. And to just say, well, he doesn't have it. He's not gonna be a competent major league pitcher. That's, I think we do that with prospects a lot, but I guess it's kind of the nature of it. Well, he has just responded in such a phenomenal way and I couldn't be happier for him. I mean, he just, he seems like a great kid and it may only be one start. And I hope it's only the beginning for him and his journey

But he's totally earned it. I mean he's pitching to a 2.53 e ra up in triple a Last year and and and before that He had just been getting shelled up there, but I I don't know what they worked with with him I believe he was working closer with the the major league pitching staff and Caleb Cotham but they have totally been able to get way more command out of that fastball. The fastball was something that really plagued him and fastball command specifically because he just couldn't keep it within the strike zone. It's a really good pitch. It's a, his fastball reminds me,

it's not, it's not Wheeler's fastball, but when you watch it, there are some similarities to Wheeler's fastball. It's a special pitch. It's 97, 98, really good spin, rises a little bit. It's an interesting pitch. He's gonna, there's gonna be times where it goes out of the strike zone 100 percent.

But he's done a much better job at using it as a weapon so far this year. And he is doing such a better job at command of that pitch. And then off of it, he's when we when they first drafted Nick Able, he had like a power slider and then almost like a get me over slider. Well, it looks like that kind of pitches back and I think he's mixing a sweeper here, but he was legitimately dominating up at AAA. It wasn't some flukey 2.5 ERA. It was real stuff. It was real stuff all this

all this pitches great out I believe right now at a major league level it's a it's a really remarkable turnaround and He's gonna get his shot on on Sunday now What is the future hold for Mick Abble? I'm not totally sure. If I had to guess I believe he is more trade bait than anything. You know they have a pretty good you know they've almost have a plethora of starters. They're probably gonna eat a bullpen piece. They could use an outfield bat.

You haven't come up and you haven't pitched against a Pirates offense that They're probably gonna need a bullpen piece. They could use an outfield bat. You have them come up and you have them pitch against a Pirates offense that is dreadful and you don't have them pitch out in Colorado, out in Coors Field and in that altitude probably gives him a better chance to succeed. So again, heading into a the straight line, who knows? Maybe he makes a couple starts, maybe makes one start, no idea. But maybe he goes on a little bit of a run here and opens their eyes. But either way, overall, just couldn't be happier for a guy that was probably down in

the dumps about what his major league career would look like after being on the fast track for so long and and really doing a great job of Putting it together this year and and and being ready to go and and ready to help this team Hopefully win a baseball game on Sunday. So good for mcgable cannot wait to watch that. It's good. It's bad news on Sunday. So good for Mick Able. Cannot wait to watch that. It's bad news. It's bad news for Paul Skeens having to face Mick Able in his major league debut. I mean, just sounds like a tough spot for old Paul. Other speaking of bad news, again, serious bad news. Moises Chassé out now with Tommy John surgery. Really interesting arm They got last year in the Gregory Soto deal Seth Johnson is up in in Lehigh Valley. They've moved him to the bullpen

He actually looks really interesting last night out of the bullpen for the iron pigs not throwing his fastballs much was starting to throw his sweeper a little bit more and Given that he's not the biggest command guy in the world that could could be a pretty interesting mix So I do wonder with Carlos Hernandez, have they run out of patience with him? Daniel Robert tonight did not do a job, but there's still some interesting stuff there. Could Seth Johnson, given that he's on the 40 man,

could he be another, or could be the next one they kind of bring up? So Moises Chasse, that's thanks. I mean, he was, but his last start, his velocity is down to like 92 and he was shaking his arm when he was leaving the field. So he had this fear that this was what was going to happen. But still, he's a young kid. Unfortunately, he's probably going to miss most of next year. And, you know, I guess we have to look forward to the 2026 Next year's 20-20. I can't believe the the 2026 Phillies are already here

We've talked so much about the about the 2026 Phillies. So maybe the 2027 Phillies maybe we're we're perpetually just on to the 2027 Phillies. So either way, definitely a bummer for Chasse. I thought he could have maybe helped the bullpen this year if they wanted to, but obviously that is not happening. And then final thing. So we are heading up to Reading on May 31st. Cannot wait for that.

We only have a limited number of tickets remaining. So definitely get in and And get your tickets now, but we are approaching Approaching time to go up to Reading and seeing Aidan Miller. He started to heat up a little bit He started heat up if you look at the overall stats, you're gonna be like, I don't see it. I don't see it slowly, but surely slowly, but surely I don't see it. I don't see it slowly, but surely slowly, but surely the, the, the game of double A is slowing down from again, he's 20 playing up in Redding. So you gotta,

you gotta take a deep breath a little bit. So 20 playing in Redding, he, he, he started, I think, figure out the league a little bit. Tell you what, he's got that, that he's got a cockiness with the, the when he when he Walks which I think is funny. He had a home run tonight hit a double so And just in watching his at bats. It really does look like the game is Is slowing down for him. So We're going up to see him and the other writing fighting fills, of, but as the Aiden Miller road to the show, I mean, we gotta let the kid know that we're all behind him. That's where we're at.

That's where we're at. We are a pro Aiden Miller podcast. He's gonna be phenomenal league and he is the, he started to do some damage up there in AA. So a lot of good stuff tonight. Some questionable stuff. Let's mix in a laffer. I mean, would love a good laffer tomorrow as we head into skeins versus able on on Sunday afternoon. But tomorrow at six oh five start, we got wheels in the

mound. That's obviously not a game that you can't lose. So win a series and then we'll see how Sunday plays out. But overall a solid win tonight, one that would have been a really annoying loss and maybe would not have gotten a solo edition of the High Hops podcast. So thanks to everyone that tuned in and I believe, I believe we'll be back with the podcast Sunday after the game.

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