High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - Reacting To Trea Turner's Hamstring Injury & Previewing This Week's Mets Series
Episode Date: September 7, 2025Philadelphia Phillies shortstop Trea Turner exited Sunday's game early with a hamstring injury. The High Hopes Podcast is LIVE, reacting to the news and discussing if the Phillies can withstand losi...ng their star for the playoffs. We will also preview this week's four-game series against the New York Mets. Presented by Miller Lite To purchase Ring The Bell by Jack Fritz and Kevin Reavy go to RingTheBellBook.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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frustrating so we haven't recorded you know for for during the weeks the Eagles schedule and
you know work and all I got in the way and all that and you know it's a bummer we didn't
record after that Mariners series because you know one of the better series wins the season
gutty tough I know they get blown out there the Bruce excuse me perors I don't know why I said
Mariners I'm sorry I was thinking back to the Wheeler thing the Brewers is similar colors
sorry sorry I saw them I just saw the Mariners 1 18 to today so I was like okay
Um, anyway, I'm all over the place because Drake Turner, uh, like, it should have been a fun one.
Even today, like they fought, they, you know, it sucked, but they went down for nothing and they
battled and, you know, they had a chance to win at the end.
They, you know, they even, you know, a one run game there at the end and really had a shot and all
that.
Like, it felt like a, uh, really nice stretch of baseball that they've played.
And I was excited to talk about it.
And then, you know, now it's like, oh, let's talk about trade Turner and his hamster.
and that freaking blows.
And look, I will just say at the very top, Jack,
and I wanted to also be able to do a whole, like,
look at us, Mr. CNN, Jack Fritz, welcome.
And, you know, Philly Karen, now we're all having a bad weekend.
She, you know, cursed us.
But we'll get in all that.
But, you know, just, and caveat, like, we don't know what the prognosis is for Turner.
Maybe it isn't that bad.
Maybe it was very precautionary and he'll be okay in a weekend, like, whatever.
But, like, we all know, like, you missed six weeks and was never kind of the same
a couple years ago and like all that and he's just been playing so good and so locked in it's just
it's a it's a it's a it's a very concerning day jay just when you thought that they couldn't
make a post game sunday podcast anywhere dude i know i know man i know and especially i even said
to emily like last night i'm like it feels like the Phillies are really like you know coming
together at the right time for the first time ever and it's like okay no not at all i just
what a damper I mean what a damper on what is a team that you know for they just have been taking care of business in a mostly professional sense there's little things that I actually do want to get into because they're incredibly frustrating but in the overall scheme of things like they're just playing damn good baseball like the pitchers are pitching the the bullpen is stepping up and doing its job and the hitters are just doing enough and the more.
Marlins aren't great.
I can't believe that team took three or four from the Mets.
I mean, that is pretty ridiculous.
That team stinks.
I mean, they're bad from Marlins levels.
I mean, for Marlins levels.
They only have one guy I'm afraid of.
Yeah, well, they get some guys who are like sneaky better than you think like Ramirez and
stuff.
But I agree with you.
They are a horrendous team.
Well, that, uh, Sonoa kid, he just kills the Phillies for no reason.
He's got big hits for no.
He's a new Miguel, uh, there was that, there was that set going around after the
Harper Homer yesterday where it was, uh, that Bryce Harper had,
more home runs in Lone Depot Park than anyone on the Morland's roster.
It's like, are you kidding me?
Like, really?
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous.
So, but yeah, it's just like, and even today, I would love to say, hey, whatever.
It was Sunday getaway.
Taiwan got shelled early and then and then locked in and they fought back and they made
it a legit game again.
But holy cow, the tray thing.
I mean, I don't feel the same way that I felt about the wheeler injury where the wheeler
injury all of a sudden it was you know burn the boats that's the one spot that they can
kind of survive in and i i understand the caveat of it could be nothing it could be two weeks it
could be six weeks maybe it's six weeks it's freaking it's the nLCS i i think i just have a lot
of uh of fear from last year where he was cooking then he had an answering injury and and his season
he stopped running he really just was not close to being the same player started chasing a lot of the plate and like that's where my my fear i'm not trying to fear monger we'd never fear monger on this show uh but like but that's where my fear comes in is that we're having a guy who's gonna finish top five in n l mbp voting could finish even a higher he's having a six plus win season doing great defensively had a four hit game the other day had a home run in this one and and pulls himself
out immediately and like I just I've seen so many athletes who athletes know their body better
than anyone else and immediately took himself out and it does raise a red flag about Saturday
where he did not play and they said it was because of the I mean what are they talking about
with the hard turf all you the hard turf at globe life where where what is this like football players
at MetLife stadium like what are we doing here do they know what the vet was like
it played on concrete so they had to get tray off the the turf that feels like a lie at this point
clearly they're worried about something but yeah and if you're gonna do it then commit and don't
have them play today you know what i mean like if it's a real thing it where you you're gonna hold
him out sorry why not wait one more day if you really have this weird thing with this turf there right
am i like then commit to it like it seems like they even half asked that right i just i don't
if he was showing signs of being hurt there's no reason to put him out
there. There's no reason. And the fact that
Trey, again, immediately,
immediately took himself out.
If it's a week, if it's a week
or two, and it's a minor strain. It'd be a miracle,
miracle, miracle, miracle. And I don't,
I don't really buy the thing that comes out immediately
because you have no idea how they're going to wake up
and feel the next day. And it was
interesting. Runners like you know
that. Runners like you know that.
100%. And
Like last year was the same way where he
rounded home and scored
and then all of a sudden. I was at that game.
I was at that game.
Today was just like that.
Today was just like that where he's like, nope, that's it.
Man, man, that sucks.
It totally sucks.
And so, God bless him.
I think he could step up and be a good complimentary piece.
But, oh my goodness.
If they don't have Trey Turner, listen, they'll make the playoffs.
That's not the issue.
Even when he comes back, I hope that he's the close to the player that he was so far this year.
it's a total, total gut punch.
Yeah, I think you could argue he's the player they least could afford to lose heading into the playoffs.
Like obviously, I think it's him Turner, Tim, Harper, Schwerber, and Sanchez right now.
Probably they're four most important, most necessary guys heading in the playoffs.
And man, you know, and to your point, like, look, again, to not fearmonger,
CNN Jack would never do such a thing.
You know, you're a newsman.
you're a journalist, you know, so they go to you when that hard-hitting stuff happens.
And we'll get to it.
You know, don't worry.
We won't get to it.
We'll get to it.
We'll get to it.
But the, we don't have to.
It's funny.
The, you know, especially, I think you just hit on the key thing where it's like, yes, I think, do I think Tray Turner will play in the playoffs or the Phillies?
I do.
I do.
I think that, you know, it's likely.
But we just know we've seen this so many times.
So many of these players, especially speed guys with hamstrings where it's just they're afraid to push it.
They don't kind of run it the same of it.
He's been so dynamic on the base paths this year as stealing bases, as, you know, causing problems going first, third, second home, first home, all that stuff.
And obviously he's been such a massive upgrade defensively for what he showed us last year, the last two years, you know, this year that, you know, and that's obviously something that, you know, if you've got a hamstring, it's another thing it hampers you.
And it's just, and then you don't, that's even talking about, you know, kind of how locked in he's been at the plate from a contact perspective and being able to put the ball and play two strikes, put the ball and play all that stuff.
Like, you know, timing's off.
The whole thing, it's just, look, again, to Jack's point before, it might be fine.
It might be somewhere to a week or two.
And he took him out because he's had this before and he felt the little list of tweaks.
I was like, I'm not messing around at all.
I'm going right to the table.
I'm letting them work on this and letting them, you'll warm it up, whatever needs to be done in that situation.
Like, it's possible.
but these hamstrings, these soft tissue stuff,
like they're just,
they're just scary and more often than not,
they're the kind of thing that lingers.
Yeah, I mean,
it could have cost,
it could have cost them a batting title.
I mean,
if we're talking about just Trey individually,
I mean,
like from the standpoint of he was on his way.
It is kind of shocking that like barely over 300 is enough.
Oh, it's dude.
I think about it all the time.
I think about with OPS is too,
like Trays,
we're talking about him as like a top five MVP guy.
And I think probably like top three or four, honestly, like, yeah, I think there's a case of me.
And I would still watch it every day put Schwerber out of him.
But there's a case of you maybe deserves it over Schwerberos, but the defense and all that.
But, you know, it's like his OPS is like barely over 800.
Like, you know, and he's having a great year.
Like I watch him every night.
I'm like, I love having this guy on my team.
But his OPS barely over eight.
It's like this is a guy who's had like a 930 OPS before.
You know what I mean?
It's just, it's so weird.
It's really strange to how we've had to adjust our understanding of,
of what is good when it comes to those type of numbers and people haven't complained about the
contract so long they haven't brought up but he's making 300 million dollars do i have to
do i have to just say jalen's elite or something to the you think is your fault for just
bad garm out there yeah it's like ah just keep punching them while he's down just keep keep
firing just keep i i don't down i was saying to tucker as we were waiting for you to record that i don't
think you appreciate it my well at least you have the eagles text uh no i don't i don't
i don't i don't look when it comes this it's like there's no there's nothing that anyone
can say that can you know spin this in a good direction again all we can do is hope that he's you
know okay and gets back and has time to get in rhythm or is in rhythm or whatever but you know this
one there's no spinning there like you said with the wheeler thing you could do the burn the boats
and the rally and stuff like they can't afford to lose this guy they're not even
Even with them they're not good enough offensively.
Yeah, exactly.
We've talked so much about those top three and how much weight is on them, you know,
as for a team.
Like, they have to be great.
And if you don't have one of the three, I mean, that hinders their ability to be great, I'd say.
Well, and think about the lineup, James, think about the line of.
You're putting Schwar back at lead off, feel like that's what you're going to.
Who's batting two?
Who is batting two?
Is there a, is there?
Boom, right?
I mean, as disastrous as that is, like, boom?
I mean, that's what I'm only saying that because that's what they did yesterday.
I'm just trying to guess they had him batting two yesterday, you know?
I'm not ripping you.
You know, I can't believe we're here.
Alex Boem?
Al's Boem is, he's hitting two.
He's going to hit two.
I'll put beta there, whatever.
Who cares?
Just try to get your best players at the top of Harper won't hit two.
Then put beta it too.
I don't know.
Put JT it too.
I don't know.
I just, even if he misses two weeks, even he misses the lineup, the lineup is, all of a sudden, while it was already not, I mean, do you just put, but even if you put stop at lead off, it's still what, then you go three straight lefties, so it doesn't help that much anyway, they're going to have to put someone batting second, like, and it's probably going to be boom.
And you want to talk about nightmare fuel?
it's Alec Ball having the second most of bats in a game.
Sounds horrible.
And you know that he's going to, you know,
no matter where he's in the lineup, it's going to happen.
But in the two spot, you know, every big spot's going to find him.
It just will.
It just will.
And, you know, we know how that's going to go.
I mean, like, I don't, it's one of those pods.
It was like after the weird thing.
And, you know, granted, that was like a little more heavy because of the,
the blood cut part of it.
And the, you know, is this guy going to be okay?
And we didn't know anything about prognosis and stuff.
stuff. This is just a bummer. I don't, again, to your point, I don't really know what else to say.
There's a bunch of stuff that's happening. We'll get into some of the little stuff, but it just feels like it's all like hanging in the balance a little bit where it's, you know, it's hard to really, uh, uh, make, uh, you know, proclamations about anything when we don't know how, how long he's going to be out. How, you know, it sucks. It's really, it's just a tiny spot to me. He's going to mess away. He's going to mess away.
I love this. This is great. This is well done. It's good. I'm in on it. Thank you.
that's good it's great so uh the fills huh well that's the thing it's like it's like i was so
happy me dude i've been so happy with them i really have because that was such a that was such
a look ahead spot that was a trap series you're going especially friday Friday i was shocked
with how they played on friday i was shocked but it showed the DNA of the team like i think that
you're starting to learn more and more about them and you feel like they're in such a good spot
and you feel like they really have a chance
and they could have gone down there
and just not shown up knowing that they just
won a series out in Milwaukee against a very
good baseball team and I have some more thoughts
in the Brewers later like that's a
damn good baseball team and the Mets
are coming down this week where
you know all they're thinking about is revenge
and they went down there and it
wasn't perfect you know
I was going to say it for the take back
but whatever like
there's been some there was some
bad baseball this week I mean overall
all just bad baseball i mean j t i think jt had his like lowest IQ week as a philly it was
i know from the pickoff on he got thrown out at first base around browning the base he threw a million
balls in the center field i i was for a guy who i regard as mably their smartest player i thought
he had a poor week stop not getting the bunth down the ninth is infuriating like just he's a
smart baseball player and price and stuff's been great and like that's the thing where where all these
guys have been really really good it's just for some reason they they they never really seem to
play smart baseball even if baiters has some bad throws i mean Taiwan Taiwan not covering the mound today
in the first inning i was ready to yank behind home plate i was ready to yank in there now
obviously that's mostly joking but i was so mad at Taiwan they left a million runners on base
like against a better team
who knows how it goes
they did some bad baseball against the Brewers
and were able to overcome it
but those little things
they got a they got to really hone in on
especially in this series against the Mets
and what's so frustrating is like
the Mets have played bad
since the Phillies played on
I know I know they lost a series of the Mons
they lost series of nationals they lost series of the Reds
like they just I mean again
the Phillies are what seven games up still
I believe like in
it's just because the Mets have like it feels like good and the Mets have played even worse
yeah and I feel like when when they start to feel like they need to show out
that's my start playing not Chris baseball I just they they played well their winning series
but still there's there's that little there's that little bit of of it's I think
locked in's the wrong word because they're winning games but just heads up baseball
ball that I think has been missing that I think would really take them to another level as a
team just little things little things that I think in bigger series would come back to bite them
yeah and look who knows when tray will be back but those are the type of things they're going to
have to do to make up for traving out or make up for a diminished tray if he is diminished when he comes
back and all that type of stuff like this team to the point we made especially once you lose
Wheeler and with, you know, how the lineup is, you know, situated in terms of depth and the fact that, you know, we've already talked about you're going to need a Stott or a bait or a Kepler or one of these guys to have real moments in the postseason to win, you know, like there's just so little margin for error with this team heading into the playoffs in a playoff series. And look at baseball in general, that's, that's the way it is. We know these games are going to be tight in the playoffs. There's going to be a lot of close games. It's going to come down to a few things here and there. And when you're doing dumb things, like,
You can't execute a rundown from first to second or you're,
you know,
overrunning first base and they're getting thrown out by a third basement or,
or whatever these situations are.
Like those are the kind of things that literally can cost you a series in the grand
scheme of things.
And, and especially when there are multiple of them.
So I'm with you.
Like they just,
they can't afford as a team to be making these types of mistakes,
you know?
And the post is it affects Uncle Moe as well because you know what?
No, no doubt.
No doubt.
That lets a team, that lets a team back in it.
And when you're facing the Marlins,
with James, you and I watch a lot of baseball.
I didn't know a lot of the lineup.
I didn't know a lot of them.
Like I said, Marcy and Ramirez and, like, Edwards.
Like, I don't really know many other guys.
I know Otto Lopez, 100%.
Otto Lopez, yeah, but like it's really pitchers, bringing guys out of Pam.
Like, I, nope.
Nope.
I know, I know.
And even like some of the guys that I banked them.
like bednar or not bednar uh bender like bender my boy who eventually will be a filler at one time
i hope so like i just even the guys i'm used to uh i wasn't used to any of those guys they didn't
give me connor norby so against a bad team okay it's it's fine i just and they won the series
and and maybe they weren't totally fully locked in today felt like a getaway day effort
totally and they still battled again you know they still like
I do I was right if it weren't for trade this would be a really positive podcast like I don't care that much about today there's still four up on the Dodgers they're but I mean imagine being a Dodgers pod after yesterday and having your pitcher throw eight and two thirds no hip and you're up three nothing in the bottom and I lose a game like first time in baseball history that's happened like I mean you know Dodgers have been horrible for for a while Dodgers are in danger of losing the division of the Padres like there's all you know and the podgers aren't good either by the way exactly Padres haven't taken it they could have
The Phillies have been one of the three or four best teams in baseball since the All Star break.
They have been, they have the second best record in baseball.
They're four games up on the Dodgers or the West NOS team right now.
Like, they are like in a great spot.
And I do feel like they're playing the best baseball they have on this run at this specific time of the year.
It's just the trade thing.
Like I don't, you know, I don't know what else to say.
Like I feel, you know, they're going to have to correct those mistakes.
You know, they're going to have to, you know, be a little more.
isn't offensively, but look, the platoon's been working.
I appreciate that he's been doing, especially in Miami where we know Cassiano's
family and all that.
He stuck to it.
It worked with the three homer game, obviously.
Bader's been so much fun.
The bullpen's been better, you know, I know, I Lazzardo, you know, was solid, look good.
You know, the Rangers has been amazing since they've needed him.
The team has stepped up since the mess thing.
It's just Trey.
Like, you know, you know, so.
And so Rob Thompson's talking right now.
And he said that, uh, Tray felt a grab in his right.
I felt a grab in my groin area when that happens.
That's great.
How does that make you feel?
Pained, pained, pained, pain.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I just don't know.
Yeah, we'll see.
Look, that's the thing is like, let's, I mean, I honestly feel like,
hold on, we'll get to take back in a sec.
I don't have much more baseball stuff to say, let's, let's quickly.
I know you said we didn't have to, but like,
and you don't have talked too much about the CNN thing.
That's just funny.
but like and there's not much to say about it
but like I feel like we can't do the pot
and not like mention the Philly Karen thing for real
so you were on CNN about it your thoughts
Mr. Exactly Mr.
expert on the situation the perfect person
they said who can we have come on to talk about Philly's Karen
I like ah we got it. We found a guy
you know what's so funny you know what's so funny is that
I just didn't think it was like, something.
I know.
Well,
that's what the funny thing is.
When you told us that you were going to be on CNN,
I was like,
of all people,
like the person who would care the least about this,
like,
like Elliot would be better on it,
you know,
minus the Phillies part.
You know what I mean?
It's something like,
it's just so funny.
I was like,
okay,
sure,
bring Jack on for this.
Yeah.
Well,
I was like,
I was,
I actually,
I saw it.
And then I was like,
oh,
well,
She's not great.
It's like, well, she sucks.
Having to get booted her out of the building, that's that.
And then like, obviously, I did,
Ava was like, hey, do you want to go on CNN to talk about it?
Well, she became the main character in the country, you know,
like on, and I went from Twitter.
It wasn't just the main character on Twitter.
She was like news shows, this, that.
I was like, all right, let's, like, it's crazy.
Seemed like a slow news weekend around the,
if I was a news person, it seems like a slow news weekend.
She's the worst, like, not knowing your person.
whatever but like she had a horrible moment in that moment if i am judging her on that moment like
what a horrible person but like who knows who she's really like and it's just the kind of thing
where it's like all right like you know we're good i thought the crazier thing was out it was all
philly's fans out there oh yeah i know usually is but it was nuts it was literally that area with
it was all philly's fans did they announced crowd today was 30 000 in that blah
yeah exactly 30 000 a lie but still they had 30 000 had to pay i guess you know
I beg you, most are Phillies fans.
I agree with you for sure.
Oh, yeah.
So, Ava said, hey, do you want to go on CNN and talk about the Philly Karen thing?
And, like, you know, I don't know, like, it would be weird to say no.
Of course not.
Of course not.
But, like, just like inside me, I'm pretty busy.
I'm like, you know, like the kids are like screaming their heads off.
Oh, yeah.
So I like pretty much checked out on like what the reaction was.
So I had to do a quick deep dive into like, okay.
Be informed.
So she went over and she was also yelling at the kid.
And it was a real, like, you know, before a test, I was, I was scrambling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then she asked me like, oh, what's her deal?
What's her deal?
And I'm like, I have no idea.
What are you talking about?
No one even knows who she is.
What are we talking about?
Philly's fans doesn't mean that I can identify with her in any other way.
Like, what are we doing here?
So it was, it was definitely cool.
You know, it's funny is that, you know, when we do this show, I could see your face.
I was on there.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It was just like a camera shooting and you hear them in your ear, right?
Yeah.
I couldn't see it.
And the other thing that was annoying was that I have long, I have long been so annoyed at
the little delay on
like ESPN or the
when they have a guest on
there's that awkward I was
right on top of whatever she was
and going
back and watching it there was a delay
right there was a delay
it was infuriating it's like
well Jack what do you think about this it's like
well Christy let me tell you
yeah yeah yeah well
and the other thing
is that
I couldn't tell
because I'm like I'm pretty confident in my connection here at my house but also oh yeah we've had moments
yeah I was on a show on Friday where I lost connection in the middle of it and like I was talking at the
beginning but I couldn't see her face so she was like talking over me and I was like wait that I
dropped so but yeah I don't know overall it was a very very uh it was a it was a cool experience I
like I don't I didn't really know what to say about the the I didn't think it was that big of a deal but I thought you did great honestly I really did I thought you look great yeah you judged up a little bit looking good I thought it was great man and look there is nothing to say you represented Philly well I liked your I hope this doesn't stick to us like yeah snowballs and Santa Claus line those so so people took that as like people took that way it was a joking comment it wasn't like and also your
saying it like being like that's dumb i hope this isn't dumb also like what are we talking about
thank you thank you i just want to clear that up i just want to clear that up yeah what i said
on uh that that news network yeah yeah so let's let's get it together people all right uh let's take
bag uh so it's not totally take take back but i just i have to talk yeah whatever else you
want to get into thank you i understand that it was
was a game against the marlins in september i just feel like he he's back to just giving away at
bats and like would have loved bryce stepping up in that moment like i i i i if we're doing
a full trust tree like feeling about brice and i come on this podcast i talk to you we have
our community because we're about honesty and how we currently feel at the current time.
And I just, I just feel like he doesn't come through latent games anymore.
And I'm more excited when someone gets out in front of him so that he doesn't have to come up
in a big spot rather than get Bryce to the plate.
and it's just such a half-hab hazard swing there at the end against a guy who's all over the place
and I know he's not just going through the motions and I and I don't believe that but and like he's still a
really good player it's just I hope that when the postseason starts again that he gets back to being a
truly great player because right now he's a he's a he's a really good to great player but
it's just the the elite status with bryce and being one of the 15 best players in baseball
maybe it's just for how long he's been in it and he's 32 33 getting a little bit older and
this is what we have to read like do we have to readjust our expectations for
Bryce because I feel like I have to readjust my expectations for him because
he's closer to being like 25 to 35 in the game like for example ESPN did they
ranked all the cores in baseball and they had the elite category of the Phillies and it
was Trey it was Chris Sanchez and it was Duran it was those three and then Bryce is in the very
good category and I don't know if this is like we have to just readjust our expectations and
like hopefully he's just a postseason riser and it won't matter but that little thing just against
a terrible team against the pitchers all over the place to just ground out and
weekly on a splitter away was soul crushing.
And Schwerber had the hit, and that was good.
But him and Schwerber, the last week, I mean, out in Milwaukee,
it felt like every big moment late, they weren't coming through.
Schwerber's in a power outage.
He needs to hit number 50 just to get it out of the way.
I think he's like super, super pressing.
I totally agree with you on that.
Totally agree.
By the way, he's going to be the second Philly to ever hit 50 home.
runs in a season. It's crazy. It's crazy. Schmidt had 48. Tomi was up there. You know, that's
crazy, man. It's crazy. Like he's, you know, but I think he needs to hit number 50 so that.
And just get over it. I agree. I agree. Remember when judge, when judge got to see two,
it took him forever to get that 60 second. He was, yep, yep. So, all right. So the elite was,
sorry, the elite was, Trey Turner, Zach Wheeler, and Christopher Sanchez. The plus player,
the plus players were Harper and Duran. I would put Duran in elite.
category and I think Bryce is a plus player is fine. Um, but I just, am I overreacting or is
this, do we really have to just readjust their expectations for, for the 32 to 33 year old
version of Bryce Harper? Well, I think it's a little bit of both. And I think it's also still an
unknown. Like, I do think that, look, he is 33. And I think that we've seen this year that
he has had stretches where he's really turned it on and stretched where he is. And I think that
maybe some of the frustration we've seen is him learning that his body and his abilities
can't do what they used to do and coming to grips with it,
reckoning in it and all that.
But I also think that he has been so great in the big moments for the team,
even in the playoffs last year,
that you know I crushed him for.
But like for the most part,
he hit in that series.
He did.
I, I, I, I can't,
I would love to,
to see it be consistent throughout.
And to your point,
I mean, I do think that I, like, and I don't think it's a crazy thing to say,
but losing Turner is a bigger loss in Harvard, you know,
which is a crazy thing to say.
We wouldn't have said that a year ago at this time.
And, you know,
and you could still argue that because of his playoff performance,
you still would rather have Harper and because of what he means and all that.
But point being that, like,
I think for the regular season,
this might be the type of player we get now,
a player who I'm hoping is conserving and is not that he shouldn't be locked in
every path,
but I'm saying isn't, you know, that he,
when he has to lock in and have,
has to really truly bring it in the biggest moments.
Like, he's got a pretty good track record,
and he has had enough stretches this year,
and his overall numbers this year are still good enough
that, like, I think he can be great for a playoff run,
and thus I'm not race, he's this guy,
but I do think we have to adjust it.
You know, I think the year, like the MVP or close to it type Harper,
that guy's gone, yes, I think.
Well, and it's funny because I've kind of fell this way
this past you know week and and even and he's probably in the year hitting around 270 with 30
home runs and again that's not a bad player at all I mean that's it and that's with missing the
time he missed and dealing with the the wrist injury it's just there was a time where I couldn't
wait for Bryce to get up because it felt like here we go like don't let Bryce get the
plate he's going to get a big hit and it just feels like
like it's been a while since late in the game and Bryce is up that he has been been that guy um so he
has his moments early in games like hit the home run yesterday that was good he had the hit with the
bases loaded against the Mets good but again like this is someone who late in games used to be a
killer yeah exactly used to be a killer and you know I just hope that I hope that Superman hasn't
lost his cake.
Yeah, I think that's fair.
I think it's fair.
So, again, again, I know that sounds, I know that sounds, I know that sounds like super
overly negative, but there's nothing more than I won the world than for Prince
Harper to win a world series.
So, like, I think he deserves that he's been a great Philly.
And I think he's going to go down as, you know, one of the five best ever wear the
uniform and it's really just it's really just five us offensive players where the
uniform but it's it's really just is this an open conversation an honest
conversation about where we're at the price because it's been it's been a little
wild since we've had that you know late in games big moment here comes three
coming through in a in a big spot so that was just a little frustrating spot that
and the game that way.
Yeah, no, I feel you.
Update, Trey Turner spoke a little bit ago.
He said MRI tomorrow.
He said hopefully it's not as bad as last year
and could come back as quick as he can
for a postseason push.
So we'll see what happens.
All right, let's get to take back.
That sounds horrible, by the way.
Yeah, well, you know, it's hard to know.
Hard to know, but definitely does not sound as the positive.
None of this is good.
What do you expect?
You know, none is good.
I'm hoping that I'm ready for a post-season.
what it is it is what it is like yes
you weren't expecting me like
it feels great like you know
you know so
I wrote this I wrote this take bag
I know I'm sure
after Nola's last start
and
I'm just I have to
I have to put it out there because I think
we're probably be doing this podcast for the next
16 years right
oh yeah of course at least
I would hope so
I'm already annoyed at Walker and Sutton
and the reason why I'm already annoyed at both of them
is I just envision, you know,
obviously they're sicko baseball fans like me
and they're going to, you know, get into the Phillies
and they're one day, one day,
and I want people listening now to be listening 16 to 18 years from now.
One day, they're going to come to me
and they're going to say,
Dad,
how good was Aaron Nola?
Because they're going to look at you.
Yes,
they're going to see all the all-time numbers.
Yep,
they're going to see him being top five
in like almost every pitching category.
Yeah,
literally,
yeah.
Talk to me about Aaron Nola.
He's going to be second in strike ads,
like soon,
like a couple starts or whatever it is.
It's nuts.
And I'll say,
no.
He'll say he was pretty good.
he was mostly excruciating but I appreciate the longevity that he was a mostly winning player
mostly winning he it can pot a lot of innings but do not go ask a sat nerd to explain that I don't
feel like it fool yourself into thinking that he's he's good and you will you'll be sadly
mistaken uh I had a tray thing in here I have a lot of minor
league thoughts that I will have.
Oh, great.
Yeah, I can't wait for those today.
That's what I want.
I think Marsh and Bader really do feed off each other well.
Like, if we're doing the positive portion of this podcast, albeit the Tray News, like,
I think, I think Marsh and Bader have fed off of each other's energy.
I think Marsh has actually been begging for someone like Bader to maybe get an even better
version out of himself.
I know that him and Bome have the, the friendship.
ship connection but foam is about it's like me or milk toast as it gets yes yeah he's got a little
yore vibes to him um and and and and baiter's like so high energy you know when bader had to catch
um was that thursday in yeah yeah yeah and amazing just right with duran with duran and yeah it was
awesome yep and march is right there you know fired up going like i i think march needed bader no
Marsh talked about how Stubbs kind of
saved this season and shout
to Garrett Stubbs so happy he's back. I love stuff.
I don't hear it. I don't agree anyone's
I love him. I love him. Full support.
But dude
it hasn't actually been talked
about enough what Marsh
has done since coming back from the IEL.
I mean he's hitting over
300. He's getting his off left. He's
I mean
arguably like their fourth best
player. Him and Bader like
in competition for their fourth best player
he's playing every single day in left field he's a gold glover and center field he's fine but the the
bader marsh center field left field and and just how those kind of guys are it really feels like it's
they're getting the best out of each other and it's and the trade thing is such a freaking bummer
because like those two have such a world series type vibes to him right now um and i
I just, I'm really happy for Marsh.
Seems like a great dude.
I'm glad he's finally maybe settling into being a productive player for this team.
And I just, every day I wake up and I think about how Harrison Vader gets to play baseball for the Phillies today.
Yeah.
I look at you.
I love it.
I love him.
He's so much fun.
He's fun on your team.
He's fun to watch.
He's so smooth the way he goes about it.
He's got fire.
Like, I feel like he's going to come through in big sports.
he like even just watching the way he bare hands balls off walls and like the angles and
where it's like he feels like he's like has like an innate understanding of uh of like geometry
and and the way it's seriously it's unbelievable like it's like he puts his hand up and like
it's like over here and like the ball's over there and all of a sudden the ball like takes three
bounces and lands at his hand it's amazing um he's really fun to watch i'm with you and
and i think he's exactly the type of guy they need which you called a trade deadline prior to it and
and it's so true.
But, and Mars, look,
Marge's been awesome.
I look,
I don't know how I'll feel in the playoffs
until he does it in the playoffs,
but I am confident when he comes to the plate now.
Like,
it's not even like I'm, like, not scared.
Like, I am confident.
I think he's going to come through.
Like, you know,
it's the best thing I can say.
I really need,
I really need Bader and,
and the Phillies to agree,
to mutually agree that one year,
10 million.
Yeah, yeah, it can't go anywhere.
It has a mutual option,
one year,
10 million.
those seemingly never get picked up so 224 yeah well and also better than than letting
dave go out and sign a one-year deal am i right yeah better what a duron and fader what a
what a what a trade that mine for for d'embrowski finally so the milwaukee series was impressive
from the standpoint of like coming back on monday i thought tuesday they showed really good fight
i thought late they gave away some of bats and then wednesday was just a pure stone's
great type effort um i didn't that brewer's team is i like not like watching from afar
i've been saying the 2015 hawks i still mostly feel 2015 hawks vibes from them where it's a
bunch of good players but not enough great players trurio's great you know uh yell is
a shell of himself uh contraris is a damn good player but
But, man, they are, they are a relentless baseball team.
And when I say, like, they play college baseball, like, what college baseball is,
is like little thing.
A bunch of South Freelicks.
That's what college baseball is.
South Freelick, by the way.
It's got to be Dante Nori one day.
It's going to be Don.
Yeah, it's a good call.
I like that.
But, yeah, it's like, I totally get it.
And they play great defense and they have great relief pitching.
And, you know, they're just.
they're a team that's like built to you know they can win in the in the postseason if they get hits
yeah they are they're definitely good like they are i left that series i know the phil stuck two or three
and you know star power matters you need stars to to win a world series and that might be the reason
why the burbers don't but i do think that this brewer's team is different than the last couple
years burbers team i just do i think that they are they are are are a bit different um and i am
already saw i i am i am i wonder if they start to split up shore and harper just because of
like that series was so evident of if you have like i know schwarver's been great against lefties
and harper's better than the league average against lefties but when you have nasty lefties
it's a it's a different ball game when you have nasty lefties it's it's good luck yeah but at the same
time the turner injury just changes everything so we don't need to get ahead of ourselves but
i definitely left the uh the brover series being impressed lzardo was impressed with me yesterday
i thought there was times where he would have folded a little bit earlier in the season but i think
his last six starts he's he's just figured it out and whether it's home road i think home i'm
starting lizarro rode i'm starting uh swarez but those two stepping up without wheeler i mean
post wheeler rangers pitched to
1.09 he's been brilliant
yeah brilliant yeah
so and Lizard has been
been equally as good and yesterday the runs he allowed
were full
bull crap like they were
so much soft contact so
he did a good job
strom is browning a corner
strom's like last 12
battling so I think his IRA is below
0.8 so you need
that you need that
Robertson's also doing a job
I think David Robertson looks better now than he did
many easily it's not even close like it looks like a different guy it's amazing uh the kepler quote
yesterday was shocking but uh some shots we all had to swallow our pride and and and weren't you the
one complaining big dog am i confused what happened yeah i know i know and cast honest to his credits
it says something similar today sure sure he said dilly doesn't care about how we do it is in a world
championship which yeah damn damn straight big dog it's our guy all right all right
Guy Cassie.
We love him.
We always loved him.
Nightingale today with the whole,
they're going to sign.
I know.
It's a shut up, Bob.
I don't even,
can we not even address it?
Bob Nightingale,
the history of Bob Nightingale and us is.
He's been pretty good with the Phillies with at least.
He's been okay,
but he's had some big misses,
you know.
Well, Tray,
he called at midseason of 2020.
That's true.
And they look,
yeah,
it's just,
you know,
can we just,
like,
let's just not go there right now.
All right.
We got bigger first,
Bigger fish to fry right now.
You know, it's just.
So on Schorber, I want to resign him,
dying to resign them.
But like, if it gets to the 4-160.
Yeah, it's a little crazy.
Yeah.
For, I think 4-120.
Dude, that's $30 million a year for a 33-year-old deal.
I'd rather preach.
And maybe, listen, you twist my arm and get me to 130.
okay it just when we start getting into the the funny numbers for a D.H at 33 is where I start to
is where I start to think like team building wise we sure we want to do this like he's I need
college forward to be a Philly that's but once we start getting a really above 30 million a
year or four years is where I do draw back a little bit of
I don't know.
Like, I would, I would still do it.
Ultimately, it's not my money.
But it does get a little bit out of hand where, where it feels like this contract.
I mean, there's some talk of what, only saying that he's hearing like 200 million with like five years.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I don't know about that.
I really don't know about that.
We'll be at screwballs.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
So preach.
We'll be at screwballs on once.
that hey yeah yeah in king of prussia i'm at the screwballs at king of prussia on wednesday that's fun
come on salzer yeah it's going to be awesome coming out with us uh fills up met so it's a great game
we got we're going to be in king of prussia it's easily accessible for everyone all kinds of
highways leave right there like coming out of us got you buddy that's good good
Screwball's great name of a place.
I mean, come on.
It's going to be awesome.
We'll drink some other lights.
And it's a big game.
Yeah, it's a big game.
Yes.
Jack needs support, like,
friends around him, you know,
to get through this.
Three or four.
Three or four.
Yes.
Could you imagine?
Could you imagine they pick three or four
with the reactions around this one?
Oh, buddy.
It's great.
All right.
So Walker Bueller's Velo wasn't great yesterday,
but it's okay.
You know,
they're going six minutes.
He's going to be in the road.
rotation we'll see how that yeah until the games matter i'm not going to stress about my guy
all of a sudden though i mean no way you've no idea we're getting Taiwan you had no idea we're
getting and they're going six-man rotation beuler you have no idea do we need do we do we need this
right now yeah we do we do it and then gauge wood debuted yesterday struck out five in two
in two innings love it curve balls dope fastball love it love it and then that's the kind of stuff i
on it right there. If they could
just get Gabe Craig
into the Phillies bullpen tomorrow,
I would feel so much better.
That guy is disgusting.
I love him.
I very much look forward to
him being in the bullpen next year.
He's very, very important to me.
I love Gabe Craig.
Love it. Great stuff.
Never heard of him? I'm in.
Well, you have heard of him.
I'm just kidding. I've heard of him. It was just a funnier
joke if I said never heard of him.
But not one that comes up that often.
Yes, yes.
That is the Gabe Craig motto.
Love it, love it.
All right.
Screwballs.
King of Russia.
Seriously, we have so much fun at these, you know,
we'll see where we are.
We out for the playoffs at the stadium and stuff,
I'm sure, but like last chance to come hanging and watch a game this season.
And most likely, we'll see what happens.
But take advantage of it.
King of Rush is easy for a lot of people.
So we're going to hang.
It's going to be awesome.
Miller Lights, trivia, all the good stuff.
So that's Wednesday.
And, you know, we wait, Fritzi, we wait.
Let's see what happens at the MRI and how he feels.
And, like, it's just, you know, we wait.
Right.
We wait.
Everything will be fine.
We'll be back later in the week.
Until then, he's friends himself.
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