High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - The High Hopes Phillies Podcast: Marshall Harris Joins the Show To Talk Some Phils and Their Split in LA

Episode Date: June 1, 2018

The Phils split in LA and are on to San Fran. Marshall Harris joins Jack Fritz to talk some Phils and what he's seen so far this season. The offense continues to be a problem but at least they've got Aaron Nola. Also, Marshall reveals his top 5 atmosphere's with the Phils heading to San Fran.  See omnystudio.com/policies/listener for privacy information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. See app for details. Welcome on in to the High Hopes Podcast. I am Jack Fritz, and tonight, it's a big night. We're trying to get this guy's first break in the business. Trying to break him in. We'll see if he's first break in the business. Trying to break him in. We'll see if he can ever stick in the business. It's Marshall Harris.

I'm just so thankful to have this opportunity. Let me just tell you. Listen, every guest has to say that when they go on the Iowa's podcast. It's the most important Phillies podcast. I mean, I believe you. Only because I'm here. But I believe you. Thank you.

That's an official endorsement from Marshall Harris. Yeah, that's it. You heard it here first. He has officially endorsed the IHOPES podcast. This is pretty crazy. He also turned 40 this week. We're not going to say that because my version of Marshall Harris is still in his... My version of Marshall Harris is 35.

35? Mid-30s? Yeah. You give me that? Yeah. Hey, no one is really carding me anymore, so I guess that means I'm a full-fledged adult. But at the same time, girls still do ask me at least once a week, oh, what school do you go to?

So I'm cool. Nice. That's pretty good. That's pretty good work by you. Black don't crack, and we're out here maintaining. So since you are 40 now, I would just assume that there was no way you were staying up for these Dodgers-Phillips games this week. It's funny because you texted me like uh could you come in for the podcast i was like or just call in or

whatever i was like yeah i'll come by you're like oh really you don't have to you i can just we can just do a phone call i was like no i'll be out watching the games and you just seemed shocked by that i think you're trying to prove a point i think i think you're trying to be like listen i'm still young enough to do this i'm trying to prove the point to this young this young cat that thinks he knows the nose let's like to go get you're the one who sounds old now calling yourself a young cat no i i tend to stay up for the phillies games especially um the only thing that's old about me really is that every day i try to get my 10 000 steps in that's a new goal of mine to get my 10,000 steps in. I've done a pretty good job. As you can tell, I lost my Fitbit.

So I don't have, I didn't know you had one to begin with, but Hey, if losing it is the story you're going to go with, I'm cool with it. I had a problem. Cause like in college I wore it and I was playing basketball every day and like I would get a really good workout in and I don't have at least like 10

to 15 beers when I got home. So it completely just, you know, you just told me your whole story because they had invented Fitbits when you were in college. Yeah, back in the day. When I was in college, we were just happy to have a gym to run around in. When you were in college,

I mean, computers weren't around yet, right? No, we had it. Look at you. And it was past dial-up. It was past dial-up? Yeah, yeah. Nice. The Facebook hadn't come out yet.

Okay, so it was like early 2000s. We were doing some things. We were cooking with maybe not grease, just some peanut oil. Now, those are some bad Phillies teams while you were in college. It was the early 2000s. It was not a pretty time. Actually, I graduated in 2000. Oh, yeah.

So that was a terrible Phillies team. That was a dark time. The Phillies now, they split against the Los Angeles Dodgers. They're not terrible. They're not terrible. They're not terrible. They're the opposite of terrible. They're actually, well, they're mostly fun to watch. But like...

That offense. The offense is just, it's brutal on a night in, night out basis. I think they had an okay series this week against the Dodgers. Some nights off. Should have had three out of four. Yeah. I was so mad after game one because I thought it was a nice litmus test into where this team could be in the stretch run here, in a pennant run.

And it was a playoff-ish atmosphere. And they just completely crapped down their legs. Is there a certain thing as a playoff-ish atmosphere in L.A.? I guess they do draw. They show up late, but they do draw. They've been in the playoffs consistently for the last eight years. So, like, I just – it's always a playoff-ish vibe when the Phillies the last eight years. So like I just, they, it's always a playoff-ish vibe when the Phillies

go out to LA. I don't know why. Maybe because I'm still stuck in the 08-09. You know what it is? There's a lot of Phillies fans in LA and my favorite thing about 08-09 in terms of the NLCS is the fact that it was literally cheaper in 08 to book a flight,

get tickets, and go to the game in LA than it was to get tickets in Philadelphia. That makes sense. Because that's how cheap tickets were in LA as compared to four or five, sometimes 10 times face value here in Philadelphia to get tickets to a playoff game. Yeah. There, you just go out there, tickets were like 25 bucks. Yeah.

So just get the flight. If you got a friend you can stay with, you're just paying for a playoff game. There, you just go out there. Tickets are like $25. So just get the flight. If you've got a friend you can stay with, you're just paying for a flight. Yeah. And then you see Matt Stairs rip one into the night. And it's a great time. Deep into the night. Don't forget about Shane. Of course. See Shane do his thing too. Of course. And the year after, they beat up on some bum Kershaw that I'm sure didn't turn out to be anything in the league.

He's been better in the playoffs of late. I'm going to give him that. Can I give him that? Well, he was pretty bad in game five last year. Okay, but I'm saying he wasn't awful every single game. No, no, no. I know. I have been fighting the Peyton Kershaw thing for a while just because I want Kershaw to be – I like watching the best players of my generation do well in the playoffs.

At their peak. You want to see the best of the best. Right, so I've gotten frustrated with Kershaw to where it's like I can't even argue about it anymore. Like he's just a really good regular season pitcher in the postseason. He's just – I'm sorry. I wish I was there, but he's just – I would not – if I had to win one game in the playoffs, he's like number three or four for me. I don't know that he would be that high for me. Well, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah. So I do get what you're saying. Yeah. tell you what he's still hurt like i was watching him tonight and it was like a laboring five innings he he was in the he was in the upper 80s i don't know why why do they keep putting him out there with his back injuries just let him get fully healthy for a stretch run i don't understand this i think they're desperate front office manager all the way around they're a little bit desperate to just stay in the race and the dodgers have kind of turned things around nicely of late but if they want to compete in the nl west and be more than just a wild card team they're gonna have to make a serious push it's it's dangerous out there out west well the diamondbacks are legit yeah i mean

they're they're a team with aj pollock they were the best team in baseball he got hurt uh the rockies and now they've actually overtaken the diamondbacks the rockies are 30 and 26 but 30 and 26 they probably feel like the west is out there to be had yeah and so well and they're they're always a win now team and so like but i just don't understand like he is a guy that you need healthy if you want to do anything if you you want to go back to the World Series, if you want to make a run. And why would you waste him with a back that's clearly not still healthy? I was blown away. Maybe you thought it was.

I don't have answers for that. All I can tell you is it's not like the Phillies lit him up. No, well, listen, this offense isn't lighting up many teams these days. I mean, I think they're in the middle of the pack in the NL in runs, and that's including the 20-run game. The offense is just ugly, Marshall. So you think it's an aberration, like what they've been able to do

when you look game by game as opposed to just the mean. Look more at the median, the mode, and you'll see that it's an offense that has questions that need to be answered. And now they're missing what was supposed to be their biggest gun. And he wasn't even their biggest gun, but they're supposed to be their biggest gun,

and Reese Hoskins. And, you know, we don't know how long exactly he'll be out, but it's a situation where I look at Reese and I'm saying, hey, Hoskins isn't on the field to get back where he needs to be, but hey, at least he's out of the two-hole, so maybe he can get comfortable in some shape, form, or fashion on his way back. And both Nick Williams and Aaron Altair get to play. I'm trying to take positives out of it.

And I've been the one just banging the drum on Nick Williams needs to get regular playing time. I just hate Nick Williams. Why do you hate Nick Williams? to get regular playing time. I just hate Nick Williams. Why do you hate Nick Williams? I just think he stinks. He stinks. See? Just think he stinks, man.

Now, Jack, let me tell you something about people my younger brother and sister's age compared to me. And you're younger than both of them, Max. How old are you? 24. 24, yeah. So we're technically could be considered the same generation but it's like a sparse on that my version of Marshall Harris is yeah my generation yes I know why is it that you younger people always want to tell me that someone stinks when

they're not as good as the good players there is an average there there's there's a gray area Nick Williams falls probably in the gray area. I still don't think we've seen a large enough sample size to be able to say that. Yeah, it's very NBA player-wise. Yeah, people are real quick to do that with teams too. Like Covington stinks, which he doesn't stink. He's a good player. Exactly.

The only reason I get so defensive about Nick Williams is because everyone told me that they wouldn't trade him for Christian Jelic in the offseason now I'm not one of those people right like I think I think Nick Williams I do I agree with you like I'll I'll take back the whole Nick Williams thing think I think he has to play more often than Aaron Altair and that hurts because I love Aaron Altair and I think the guy that's bad in 190 and I think he could be Alex Rio slash Jason Worth if he gets this going but for some reason he is killing my brand, and I'm not happy about Aaron Altair. I agree with you, though.

At least we'll figure out what Nick Williams is. Is he a great pinch hitter that can come out and hit you a big home run late in the game and still be a bad defensive player? Or is he a legit piece moving forward? It'll be interesting to figure that out. It sucks it happens at the expense of Reese just because the Phillies at their best is with Reese Hoskins. Whether he's in a huge slump, still in two hole.

Like, I couldn't believe they kept batting him in the two hole. Like, what are you batting him? No, no, you believed it. You knew who the manager was. You knew the deal. My manager, who is all analytically forward, is batting a guy with a career average of 130 in the two hole. Like, I would love to know the numbers that career average of 130 in the two hole like how is like what i would

love to know the numbers that are saying bat in the two i understand like oh we gotta have our best two hitters in the two and four spot but like when a guy is as bad as he was in the two hole just just shake it up just shake it up a little bit i'm of the the mind that if you have guys who are in the on base percentage neighborhood of 400 you just string those guys. If you have more than like, if you have three or more of those guys, just string them together and then put some power behind them. And you're going to run into some runs by accident doing

that. And on paper, it makes sense. So Cesar, Reese, Oduble, but like you said, once he started struggling and his on-base percentage was no longer hovering around 500, it's time to make it. You have to be able to make adjustments.

Just like hitters have to make adjustments. Just like pitchers have to make adjustments when the league starts to figure you out. Managers have to make adjustments with the players in their lineups and put guys in a good position. I was one of the guys who said, hey, it'd be okay with me if Oduble, who has been the team's best hitter, hits in that two- hole and just slide everybody up Carlos Santana who's having a phenomenal month of May put him in the three hole slide everyone up

and after Santana you can go Franco you can go Nick Williams there's other ways you can be creative with that area of the lineup and just drop Rick Hoskins even if it's only to the four hole or the five hole just back to where he's we know he's been good and the pressure isn't on him like off the top yep like just just give him a different look let him let him take a breath yeah

let him get comfortable but i i just i don't know i don't know what they can do to really get this offense going like i think if you watch this Dodgers series close enough, it felt like they were starting to try to jump on some more pitches. I feel like they were swinging more at first pitches, whereas their whole mentality throughout the entire season has been wait as long as you can, get deep in counts, and then work the pitcher, get him out, get to the bullpen. It felt like they were jumping a little bit earlier in counts,

but I just don't know what they can really do to jumpstart this offense besides just keep throwing them out there and hope they turn it around because on paper, it's a good offense. On paper, it – Well, you're just looking at runs per game? I'm just looking like just talent-wise. I mean, if you have Cesar, if you have Cesar, Reese, Adubo, Santana, and whoever in the five hole, Altair, whatever,

that should be a – they are all OBP guys. They all get on base. They all work pitchers. That should be a nightmare first inning for a lot of pitchers, and it just hasn't been the case this year. And I don't know how they jumpstarted. You got to have – you can have guys who get on base and get hits, whatever, but you got to have the threat of the big bop in your lineup.

And that's why Nick Williams is here. Well, Nick Williams tends to get the job done in RBI situations. And in pinch hits. And in pinch hit situations. Reese Hoskins, over-under on him for home runs this season. Do you know what it was set at? I think I was listening that day to you and Glenn. Oh, okay.

And I think he set it at what, like 35? 34.5. Well, Fangraphs had him at said it at what, like 35? 34 and a half. Well, Fangraphs had him at 35 heading into the season. Okay, whichever of those numbers you... No, I know, but even that I was like, this is ridiculous. I'm good with either one. Do you know Glenn told me that he was going to hit over that number and I was like,

Glenn, I'll take that bet. I would have given him odds on that bet. Didn't see it. There was just no way that Reese Hoskins wasn't going to get adjusted to by this league, by the great pitchers in the National League. Yeah. Because he had a downward little slump at the end of last year, but I just didn't see him being able to produce like he did last year. He got really, really hot, and people fell in love because he got so hot.

Now, I think he has a great approach to the plate. I think that he will have an on-base percentage closer to 400 than 350 going forward. But that pop isn't going to be as easily surmised as Phillies fans would like to believe. And I had him hit like 25 home runs. So when he said 34 and a half and he's taking over, I said, I'll take the under.

And let me know when and where we are going to dinner at the end of the season. He loves taking people out to dinner for bets. Okay, that's fine. No, I agree with you on the pop. The one thing I did not see coming was him starting. The batting average? The batting average and starting to chase pitches out of the zone.

Like, Reese Hoskins never, even when he slumped at the end of last year, and I know what you're talking about, he still wasn't chasing sliders that were 10 feet out of the zone. That was not the Reese Hoskins that I had seen. That was not the guy we saw in the minor leagues. He was a great approach guy that even when he was down, like, Reese Hoskins even to begin this season, when he was down 1-2, it was like, well, he's going to battle back.

It'll be a 3-2 count and I'm fine when that's happening and you're not hitting if you are down the count 1-2 work it back to 3-2 and it's either a hit, a walk or a strikeout I think that's a positive at bat even if you get out but what he was doing was it would be 0-2 and then the third pitch would be

out of the zone and he was swinging at it. That was the Reese Hoskins I was just surprised by and I thought he was starting to slowly come out of it before the jaw injury. And thank God, I know it'll be interesting to see what Nick Williams does, Altair does, these guys, but thank God he's only out for a couple weeks and it's not a month because he's too important

to the future of this team if they really want to make a pennant run to be out for a prolonged period of time. But we're talking about him being out for maybe a month. What about it being just the worst possible month? Have you seen this schedule? I mean, have you really combed through the schedule? Yeah, it's bad. It's a tough schedule.

Everyone's over 500. The Dodgers are the last team that they're playing that was under 500. And the Dodgers were in the World Series last year. It's insane how tough this schedule is. Uh-huh. And that's why every game now that goes by that you don't take advantage of when you blow like a late inning lead. Like on Monday.

It just feels like so much more because like, all right, you got to make up somewhere or something. You got to assume this. Nola, Arrieta, you're going to win 75% of their starts. Listen, if you keep slandering Nick Pavetta, we're going to have Nick Pavetta. The number – The second best starter on this roster, yeah. Second best starter.

Who are you having him over? You're having him over Arrieta? I've been squatting on that take for a while. Listen, I've been squatting all over that take. What a time to unveil it. No, no. High hopes for real. No, but I had that take, and then Arrietating all over that take. What a time to unveil it. No, no. High hopes for real. No, but I had that take, and then Arrieta has like a.98 or.90 ERA in May.

So he's listened to the podcast, and he's now upset at me for having that take. And he's taking it back. I respect him for that. But Nick Favetta is a very reliable number three, and I will not stand for it. I'm not arguing that. It's just the way you said number two, I had to really start juggling things around. Is he better than the Cy Young Award winner?

Is he better than the guy that helped the Phillies get that split? And Aaron Nola, I think he's got one game all season where he's given up more than three runs. I mean, Aaron Nola at this point is rolling out of bed seven innings less than two runs. Yeah. It's unbelievable. Tonight he threw a fastball in I think the sixth or seventh inning to get the last K of the inning.

That was Greg Maddux. It was a two-seamer. Oh, the two-seamer. Come on. Jump back on the corner of the plate. He is, for all the pitching purists out there, he is a treat on a night-in, night-out basis. He's kind of a throwback in a way. He is a throwback because he doesn't have the overwhelming stuff but now

it's 94 to 96 ish which just ups his ceiling that much more to go with the change up that has developed into a legit I'm down 2-1 in the count. I'll throw this change up here and you're going to be either out in front of it or I'm throwing it for a strike to go along

with one of the best curveballs in the game. When you can throw any pitch in your repertoire in any count, that's when you become that elite pitcher. And Aaron Nola is elite at this stage. Now, I'm not saying the league won't adjust and ups and downs, all that, but I'm saying he's elite as we speak. Through more than the first quarter of a season, coming up on a third of the season saying he's elite as we speak through more than the first quarter of a season coming up on a third of the season he's elite but how like how do teams how do you team to

adjust to him like i don't i don't understand if you can throw three pitches for strikes in any count if it's 3-0 you can throw a change up curveball how do you adjust to that aaron noah loves to throw what At the end of the day, strikes. If you know he's throwing strikes, you're like, I'm getting after it early in this count, and you're looking for something to jump on. And I'm not saying he's going to fall into the habit of, you know, being a first pitch, like, something to hit guy.

You can't just throw strikes every time, first pitch strike, because guys will jump on it. But he's done that in the past, and guys have done it, and that's when he gives up the home run or the double. It's always a cat and mouse game with pitching. I mean, Tony Gwynn's not around to

answer his Greg Maddox, if you will. But he's going to see the Nats some. And when you have to go up and down a lineup like a healthy Nats lineup, we'll see then. I'm not saying he's not going to do well. I'm just saying maybe what we've come to expect in 2018 takes a hit based on seeing the Nats and the Red Sox

and some of these other teams that they're going to see in the stretch. Yep. I just think – Nats, Red Sox, Yankees, and Cubs. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, this stretch of the month that we're talking about where the pressure might get to you as a pitcher just because, you know, if the offense doesn't. How often can they win two to one?

Right. And how often can you rely on Velasquez keeping this up? Well, Velasquez isn't the one I'm worried about right now. It's Eflin. It's Eflin. It's Eflin. And how much longer do you, like, I'm pretty much done with Eflin just because I think, like, I was kind of bullish on him a little bit because he was throwing 95 and he was on both sides of the plate

and if you can locate that to go along with the slider, then there might be something there. But, like, the last two starts he's back to just leaving it over the middle of the plate and if you can locate that to go along with the slider then there might be something there but like the last two starts he's back to just leaving over the middle of the plate and getting rocked like are you are you ready to bring up and yell de los santos you're ready to bring up cole irvin i mean cole irvin had eight and two thirds cole irvin looked phenomenal and the the reports about any and yell de los santos you want to know how much of a baseball nerd i am i would love to know because i mean so like you know how okay so back in the day you would just like look in the newspaper you read the box scores um i grew up in huntsville alabama birmingham till i was 10 huntsville after that yeah and so like you're looking like the southern league box scores

and the lion scores yeah whatever's available that day. That's how the sports page works. It depends how much is going on. Early in the summer, you don't get the whole full box scores of all the Southern League teams, but later on you would because it's summer. There's nothing else going on. After the NBA and NHL ends, that's all there is. It's baseball.

So that was the back-in-the-day thing. You go and you look at the league posts like top 10 in batting average, top 10 in home runs, RBIs. And then now, we're so technologically advanced, if I see something that jumps out minor league wise, oh let me go look at that highlight real quick.

I can literally just watch the highlight and see what is this guy doing that's so effective. And that's the beauty of it. I just enjoy finding out about these minor leaguers yeah so do i and then i'll you can listen to like the broadcast you can listen to people put up videos describing the bracket like there's it's just a lot more segmented now there's a lot more niche to it if you're into something, you can find out whether it's something going on in Redding or Lehigh Valley or Lakewood. Oh, short season A? We can

check that out too. The crosscutters? The crosscutters action. The Williamsport crosscutters. We are 15 days away from crosscutter season. Exactly. Can't wait. I'm saying there's a lot more room to navigate as a baseball fan if you really want to know what's going on with an organization. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't have known about minor leagues a couple years ago. And now I just see

updates on Twitter. And it's like Cole Irvin had eight and two thirds of shutout ball. Will Stewart is developing into this like... Will Stewart was a guy that was like a ninth round pick, I think in 2014. And he was just bad for the first couple years. Now he's got like a 1 ERA. I don't know. It's exciting. I agree with you. And now you can get legit excited. Like a couple years ago when guys were coming up,

and even like Ryan Howard, you hear these stories about how he's got 50-plus home runs. It sounded like a myth. And it was like you couldn't really watch him unless you went to running to watch him. Oh, but when you hear about the Bash brothers in baseball town, it's different because now you can see what Dylan Cousins and Reese Hoskins are doing on a nightly basis. Yay, Dylan Cousins is here. Oh, you're not a Dylan Cousins guy?

I'm not a fan of a guy that can't hit, believe it or not. Dylan Cousins can't hit. The guy posted Ryan Howard strikeout numbers in like 50 less games than the minor leagues. What is that guy going to be in the major leagues he's going to be shipped to Texas for the Cole Hamels deal

that's what I'm hoping as a throw in basically yeah definitely not the primary chip what am I supposed to get excited about Dylan Cousins he's on the 40 man

he's here the only reason he's here is because he was on the 40 man he's been in like 130 in his last like two weeks do you want to talk about Mitch Walding

uh yeah I do want to talk about Mitch Walding? Yeah, I do want to talk about Mitch Walding because I can't believe the Phillies had the audacity to give him number 29 and give him the number of a legend in camera up. I think it's just embarrassing that they continue to treat their legends and just give away numbers. I just want to make sure we have the same baseline here.

What's your definition of a legend? Man, camera up era. I'm glad the camera up era is over. I just want to make sure we have the same baseline here. What's your definition of a legend? Ah, man. Camera up era. I'm glad the camera up era is over. I know you are. Because we have Jorge Alfaro. I'm sorry. Did Jorge have two hits in the latest Phillies game?

What is really cool about Jorge is he's starting to go the opposite way all the time. And I think he's starting to realize just how strong he is. He can hit balls out of the park going the opposite way with ease. And barely swinging. Like he barely swings and the ball flies off his bat. Just make contact. Yeah. Jorge Alfaro, is he a top five most electrifying player on this team?

On this team? Sure. I'm trying to think. Aaron Nola, Arrieta, Sir Anthony, Adubo, him. team sure i'm trying to think like aaron nola arietta sir anthony a doable him i guess right now he would have to qualify um i can't give it to kingery because he's bad in 213 although i love kingery in the field like doing what he can do at any position um he's actually looking like a shortstop yeah that's what i'm saying i he's exciting to watch. His play in the ninth inning was ridiculous. He's exciting to watch.

At the plate, he's hit a little bit better of late. Sorry to bunt more. Yo, the bunts are great. I miss guys who can just lay down a bunt. That's why I... Look, president of the Roman Quinn fan club. Please get happy, Roman. If he was healthy...

He could be here. He could be here right now. I know. It's unfortunate. Now we got to worry about Dylan Cousins being here. You don't have to worry about Dylan Cousins. He's not going to get a whole lot of play time. Super. That's what I asked for.

Looking at this stretch and knowing that Reese Hoskins... This is the opposite of what they need. They need to play old school big chunk of interleague American League ballpark. Get nine batters out there, including Reese Hoskins.

Now you don't have Reese Hoskins. You're still playing a bunch of National League teams. Where's the offense coming from? I think Jorge Alfaro also could use a little nudge up the lineup. That's just my personal opinion. Yeah, he was five the other night. Your boy Aaron Altair's batting 190. And I like Aaron Altair, but he's batting 190.

You can't be in the two-hole batting 190. You know why he's up that high, though. The OVP is in the 340s. I know. I'm telling you why he's up that high. You don't have to sigh and get all upset. I'm not upset. You know why he's up there is because he's batting 340.

And the Phillies love Aaron Altair. They think he's going to be a star. And I think he's going to be good. And I want him to be good. Do they think he's going to be a star? I've heard people on the pregame show talk about how they think he's going to be a star. And I think he's going to be good. Do they think he's going to be a star? I've heard people on the pregame show talk about how they think he's going to be a star. So let me ask you a question. They throw their hat in the ring for

Bryce Harper. They get Bryce Harper. What's your outfit? He's riding the pine for Aaron. Okay then. So star is not... If it's star, then you wouldn't be You should be a star. I just think we got to figure out where the offense is coming from. And I like my lineup better than Gabe Kapler's lineup right now.

The Marshall Harris official lineup? Tweets out once a day? You know, I'm going to start doing that. You should. I'm going to start just every day what my lineup would be. Do you have it off the top of your head? Who do they play tomorrow? Giants.

Do you know who's pitching? I think that's what I need. It's Chris Stratton. I don't know a lot about Chris. He's a righty with a good curveball, basically. Like a crappier version of Ross Stripling. Let's just figure this out. Cesar leading off.

Yeah. Oduble's batting second, by the way. I'm going to put Carlos Santana third. I'm going to back him up with Michael Franco. I'm going to put Carlos Santana third. I'm going to back him up with Michael Franco. I'm going to go... Franco in the 4-0? Yeah. Why not? Let's get crazy. Nick Williams batting fifth.

Followed by Jorge Alfaro. Check my positions out. What am I missing right now? Kangry. Yeah, Kangry's going to bat eighth. And then Altairery. Yeah, Kingery's going to bat. Eighth. And then Altair, seven. Altair, yeah, that's fine.

I would flip-flop Altair and Kingery in your lineup. Where do I have Kingery? I think you had him seven and then Altair, eight. Oh, okay, you're right. You're right. No, you're right. Wait, actually, no, no, no. You had Altair, seven. Seven and Kingery, eight.

Yeah, that's what I want. I would flip that just so I have an OBP guy at the bottom of my lineup. Are you about to pitch your 8th too? We'll see. We'll see if we get crazy. Maybe pitch him for the 4-hole. Who's pitching for the Phillies? Pavetta. Yeah, I'm going to stick with my lineup.

What's Gabe Kapler going to do tomorrow? Well, listen. What led him to put Florimond in the 2- hole on game one? What base is behind? He has come out and said multiple times that the most important positions, batting positions in a lineup are two and four. And this guy goes back to the Pete McCannon era

and puts Pedro Floremon in the two hole. Who does that? Especially when you come out and say how important the two and four positions are. Well, you don't have to worry about Pedro in the two hole for a while. He can't catch a break either. The Phillies can't catch a break, man. No, I know. This is a killer series.

They had to bring up Dylan Cousins. Pedro Florimon broke his foot. Reese Hoskins has a broken jaw. I don't want to go all gloom and doom here because I feel like we've been making it sound like we're talking about a team that's a game out of first place. That's how everyone's talking. Isn't that weird?

It's weird. Like the other night, John Johnson comes on and says, shouldn't Matt Klintzak be getting more heat? And I'm just thinking to myself, this team's almost in first place. If the playoffs started today, they'd be in the playoffs. They're 31-23. The time we did that show, they were 29-22. And we were getting the, was Matt Klintock not getting enough heat?

It's like, have we been like, did I live in some other stratosphere where we've had good baseball for the last six years? I think the 37-36 finish in the second half of last season and the additions of jake arietta carlos santana and carlos santana that's that's up the ante in terms of production uh can't tell by the the home figures in attendance but the ante has been upped, I think, for a lot of people. You know what? I think a lot of people have a wait-and-see approach. Don't you feel like people are waiting for the rug to get pulled

out from underneath them? Yeah, I think if July 1st comes around and they're a game out of first place, it's going to be a different atmosphere. If the offense was raking, I think it's a different story. They're not hitting well, so people don't't i don't think people think this is sustainable and i don't think i disagree i don't disagree either i think if uh the if if they didn't have the pitching that they had but the the batters are putting up you know my guys were actually

hitting over 260 yeah then there'd be a lot more excitement for this team. Two guys hitting over 260? Look, it's real right now. It's bad. I think Alfaro's over 260. Cesar's over 260. Cesar's around that. Oduble's over 260. And then Franco is right at around 260.

Yeah, Franco. So you got like four guys. But you get what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Like the offense is what people come out to see home runs and everything else. And if you can pitch a good game while you're out there, cool. We can appreciate that too. Yeah.

But just pitching and like some timely hitting late. And a lot of Ks too. Two to one and three to two. That's not exciting. That's what the commissioner's working on. He's like, he admits we need more balls in play. Like strikeouts, walks, and all. We can't live this adam dunn lifestyle forever listen i'm not convinced that rob manfred doesn't hate baseball and isn't out to completely sabotage the league i i i don't like

rob manfred at all the things he says about baseball just piss me off but that's just me and i'm a big defender of baseball all up and down. But like... You know you're in the minority, right? Oh, I'm part of the problem. As a person your age. Most people your age do not love baseball. Yeah.

People like playing baseball more than watching baseball. If you live in Boston, baseball. New York. San Francisco, baseball. New York, baseball. Chicago watching baseball if you live in boston baseball san francisco baseball new york baseball chicago baseball other cities miami i mean good example obviously not oakland tampa bay no i know and that's what i'm saying why is he trying to expand he's trying to go to mexico it's like why money i know television contracts It makes me mad. Regional sports networks. I get it.

I have a little experience in this area. I'm telling you. Somewhat, yeah. This is what it's about. It's about the money you can make off of TV. That's all it's really about. But just to counteract your point, the most participated in a youth sport last year

in the whole United States was baseball. That's because everybody lets their kid play baseball. First, out of the gate. Listen. Out of the gate. T-ball, baseball. Can's because everybody lets their kid play baseball. First, out of the gate. Listen, can you let me have my facts and not just complete crap on them? I would have greatly appreciated it. No, you're right. Facts are important.

That's what they tell me. That's what they tell you? But all I'm saying is, if the Phillies want to get the attention that they deserve as a team that's fighting for a playoff spot, the hitting has to come around. And I don't know that right now they're equipped to hit the way that they need to. Yeah, and it really does. Like, they're 31-23.

I'm very happy with where they are. I think they should be better, and I'm not sure their record really indicates how they're playing. Okay. But I will say this. The solution. My man, Sir Anthony Dominguez. Now, are you on board with me and Joe Giglio and the IOPs podcast that his official nickname is the fireman?

No. I call him the solution. No, no, no official nickname is the fireman. No. I call him the solution. No, no, no. I like the fireman though. I understand why he's the fireman like from a baseball terminology standpoint. Right, right. I get it.

But factor this in. I want you to factor this in. Put your thing in Kaplan. His walkout song is Fireman by Lil Wayne. I did not know that. Well, no. I mean, that's what I just officially made up.

Oh, oh. It's perfect, isn't it? You know what song I'm talking about, right? Yes, but. Fireman coming. I got you, but. And then the fire. Sirens go.

Come on. It's perfect. It's perfect. It's his role. He is the fireman coming out to fireman. He hasn't allowed to run it. He had a two-inning save tonight. I know.

Marshall. I was thinking about that. Is he available to pitch Friday night? Marshall, we're 33 minutes into this podcast, and we haven't brought up Sir Anthony Dominguez. I think we should be fired. I just brought it up. What do you mean? It's your podcast. I'm just a guest.

It took us 33 minutes to get to Sir Anthony. We're negative people. What do you want from me? I'm not negative. You're negative. Your negative vibe is But I'm not. I'm really not negative about the Phillies. He's got a zero ERA, I can tell you that. I? I'm not negative. You're negative. Your negative vibe is. But I'm not. I'm just, I just wish that I, I'm really not negative about the Phillies. He's got a zero ERA. I can tell you that. I just, I just wish they were better.

And I think that's fair. I think that the offense is, needs to pick it up for me to feel confident about this team being a legit pennant team. I got you. But meanwhile, Sir Anthony. Meanwhile, Sir Anthony. Sir Anthony is, he is, I don't know how teams are going to hit him. Because tonight, I don't know if you saw this,

he flashed a 90-mile-an-hour changeup. But if he adds that to 99 with cut to that wiped-out slider, I don't understand how anyone's going to make contact with him. He's a zero ERA. Allowed two hits on the air in both Ozzie Albies. I'm going to go outside the box with this one. Do you think the organization made the correct decision to make him a reliever as opposed to a starter?

I've been wondering, was he bad as a starter? I don't think he was bad. How did he not get above single A? Well, I think being a reliever helped expedite his arrival to the major leagues. Yeah, I mean, he's said that many times. And I think that's why it's okay by most people's perspectives. And I also think they view Sixto, Medina, Suarez, Jojo Romero as the higher upside starters. Whereas they can transition him to a bullpen guy

and let him just be dominant in this role. That's fair. Look, who doesn't love Sir Anthony Dominguez? He's the most fun guy to watch on the team right now. Second most fun, but high NOLA.

Yeah. You think he, but high Nola. Yeah. You think he's more fun than Oduble? Oduble's not hitting well recently. No, he's had a little bit of a slump. But when he was

going that streak, yeah, I would agree. He was the most exciting. I'm just here for the bat flips. I'm going to be honest with you.

We are pro bat flip. He has been very much less bat flip than in years prior. He's focused. He's focused. The opening day benching did this. You think so?

Not a doubt in my mind. So the opening day benching and the booing of Gabe Kapler at the home opener is the reason why the Phillies are 31-23. The booing of Gabe Kapler is what it is. But, no, seriously, Oduble's not happy about getting benched. No, for sure. He's like, I'm that dude happy about getting benched no for sure he's like I'm that dude and you just benched me on opening day yeah

Gabe Kapler told us there would be injuries there have been injuries and now guys are getting playing time that we were wondering how is this going to work we see how it's going to work Mitch Walden's out here getting starts I gotta say I didn't know that they would be this hurt this badly. J.P. Crawford will be back shortly. When everybody does come back, do you just roll with the hot hands?

I guess you do. In an offense like this where no one's done anything to say, I deserve to play every day except for O probably santana jorge as the you know everyday catcher like majority of the time catcher and yeah probably santana as well everybody else it's kind of you're looking around like yeah yeah so i every time i think about the phillies i just think about ways to get the offense going. Yeah, and I don't know what the magic potion is, but whatever. I hope they figure it out.

They go out to San Fran starting tomorrow night. They're playing a Giants team who is basically the 2012 Phillies. Just a bunch of old guys. They tried to run it back for one last time. Bumgarner has been out. Is he coming back this weekend? Well, they haven't announced a starter for Sunday versus Arrieta. I mean, if Arrieta matches up against Bumgarner

after he's already matched up against Granke and Scherzer to begin the season, he's being put up against the big matchups. But the Giants are 26-30. They're going to be a 500 team. It was always a terrible idea what they did this offseason, but I understand they have Posey and Baumgartner and they'll run it back

with McCutcheon and Longoria. But it was never going to work. I have a better question. Sure. How do you feel about trading for Madison Baumgartner? See? Now this is right in the evening show wheelhouse. I think there's a chance they can go out and get Madison Baumgartner. And I would be in. Would you rather have him or Cole? I think there's a chance they can go out and get Madison Bumgarner and I would be in. Would you rather have him or Cole Hamels? Well I mean... Knowing what you have to give up to get each of those guys I'm trying to think of what the package would be for a Bumgarner

deal because I think the smarter play for the Phillies rather than trading anything for Machado, whatever, would be to trade actual pieces for Bumgarner and then try to get Machado or Harper. I think that's the high upside. Say, hey, look, we got these pitchers. We need offense. Right. So if you're Manny Machado

and the Phillies are offering you $400 to $500 million to either Harper or Machado and you see a rotation of Nola, Arrieta, Baumgartner, Pavetta as your four with Sixto coming up after next year. And you say... Sixto's here in 2020. Yeah. Not 2019.

No, he'll be in the pennant race 2019 out of the bullpen. Okay. That's what my Sixto Sanchez is doing. In a David Price kind of role when he was young? Okay. Yeah. Or like Adam Wainwright. Not closing, but yeah. I think that's a high upside play

that would really expedite this process because then you can throw in into that deal, you throw in Haseley, you throw in Medina. Adam Haseley. He's up to 280. Mickey Moniak. Mickey Moniak had back-to-back multi-hit games. Don't slander, Mickey.

Is that what we're... He's up to 243. Look, I'm not even laughing at Mickey Moniak. I hope he lives up to his potential. It's tough being the number one guy. Yeah, and as a high schooler and facing all these old guys. No, I get it. He has had some good games recently.

Okay. But anyway, I think Haisley is good enough to be in, not a headline deal, but at least in the deal. I think Cesar is in that deal. I think eventually Kingery is going to be your second baseman. You've got to put Cesar in a deal, and you want to put him in a deal for a starter. Okay, I can see all that.

So Cesar, Haseley, Medina, and maybe something else. And you're comfortable with Cesar going and kingery staying at the deadline uh that's a different question i guess in the off season i feel well isn't that what you're talking i know i know i know i know i'm talking about an end season trade not not an end of the season trade i would worry about giving up cesar but you just said i know know what I said, okay? I'm just thinking. Look, I'm just trying to follow and make sure we're on the same page here. I know.

It's good to make sure I stay grounded. Probably not during. It's probably an off-season move. Because I want Cesar to headline a deal. But I also, if they want to have any chance of competing this year, either Kingery's got to get insanely hot and they can feel comfortable moving Cesar to headline the deal, but I also, if they want to have any chance of competing this year, either Kingery's got to get insanely hot and they can feel comfortable moving Cesar, or you can't move Cesar if you want to be in the playoffs.

Interesting. So that feels like an all-season deal. Trade for Baumgartner and bring in Machado or Harper. Sign me up. You're good to go? And then sign Zach Britton so that you have you have Sir Anthony

as a fireman and then Britton as your closer let's get wild Tommy Hunter you don't I like Tommy Hunter I know people are gonna

crap on Tommy Hunter but I like Tommy Hunter no I'm not crapping on him I'm just like how does he fit into your what is Tommy Hunter gonna be I don't know

that's why I asked I I'm looking at the the bullpen and I'm just like your... What is Tommy Hunter going to be? I don't know. That's why I asked. I'm looking at the bullpen and I'm just like... I think the Phillies are on the right track. I just... After a two-inning save, is he available tomorrow?

No. I need him to be able to pitch back-to-back back days You need guys you can trust Like who can you really trust in the pen right now Outside of Sir Anthony So what I'm saying is You can't pitch him two innings Every other day or once every three days

And take away his ability to pitch Like two days in a row But it's important to get that split It is but it's also important To start the Giants series Believing that you got a guy that can come Is Nick Pavetta going eight innings? Listen.

When was the last time Nick Pavetta has gone eight? Has he ever gone eight innings? I don't think so. So you understand my point. Yeah, no, but you have to play to win that game. You can't lose three or four against a Dodgers starter road series. You're right. No, you're right.

I'm just trying to figure out how they're going to piecemeal it together going forward. You've got to find guys you can trust. I mostly trust Adam Morgan. I mostly trust Eddie Barramos. I don't fully trust Luis Garcia. Tommy Hunter's earning some trust back. I didn't hear the words Neris or Hector. I mean, no.

Like, just no. I can't watch him. I just like just, no, I can't, I can't watch him. I just can't watch him. I can't do it. He's P drives me up a wall. He drives up a wall. I'm sorry.

So top five Phillies on the 25 man right now that you do not trust top five, uh, I guess bottom five, bottom five guys that I've never trusted in my life. Well, let me guess. I can, I guess,

can I guess your five? Yeah, go ahead. Mitch Walding. Sure. The second he got here. Dylan the second he i haven't trusted him since double a hector narris yeah uh andrew knapp andrew knapp i can't say i can't watch andrew now and i'm gonna go see i'm thinking is it hunter or is it efflin i'm gonna go efflin it's efflin i mean i i like hunter i think hunter's still in spring training mode. Okay.

So I'll go back. Do you want him to pitch in the Meyer Leagues in spring training mode and get right for you? He'll be fine. He'll be fine. His stuff is too good. Like, frankly, it's too good. It's 96 with cut.

He'll figure it out. I'm fairly confident. So, yeah, we'll see what they do with the bullpen. But Pavetta Stratton tomorrow. Chris Stratton's like a, eh, nothing much. He's basically a good, he's a. So the Phillies should rake. He's a crappier Ross Stripling.

Okay. That I can relate to. Velasquez versus Andrew Suarez. I don't know anything about Andrew Suarez. But Vince Velasquez, where are you at with Vince? I'm good with Vince. He's making, but Vince Velasquez. Where are you at with Vince? I'm good with Vince. He's taking steps forward. I agree with you.

I think he's taking some nice steps forward. Right now, the boat towards Velasquez Island is in a holding pattern. How close is the boat to the island? Well, it's in the middle between Mikel Franco Island and Vince Velasquez Island. We left Franco Island. I don't trust him. And we're making our way. So right now I'd say we're about a football field away from Velasquez Island.

So we're close. We're close. I'm close. 100 yards. I'm close. And right offshore. Right. Watch out for those rocks.

We've dropped anchor, though. We're in a holding pattern. We're not going to move any closer to Velasquez Island. We're sending a delegation on land. delegation we might see how the island's looking okay scouting party well it's it's tough because there's there's velasquez starter island which is is starting no don't do this don't do there's velasquez don't do this don't do this then there's closer island which is which is i said don't do this which has been filled for months and years at this point. I don't know.

I'm interested in Velasquez. The fastball is still sitting at 96 in the sixth event, which I think is huge for him. He is not getting super rattled when he gives up some homers. And I've been really impressed by his spiked curveball. Holding pattern with Vince. I guess I'm in a holding pattern. My pattern is hey i'm looking around you have a starting rotation spot no one's coming for it anytime soon handle your business continue to improve get your era below four and hold it there yeah and and

technically you should be keeping your team in the game with that. And then we have revenge season Jake on Sunday. Is that what this is, revenge season? Yeah. I call it revenge season because he got dissed by his former team. They chose you, Darvish, over him, which is just embarrassing. It's insane, really. Whether you believe in team chemistry and locker room stuff, choosing a guy that you're just overpaying and you're bringing him into a world championship team

that Jake Arrieta was a main cog on and meant so much to those guys on that team, it was just a dumb move. And I'll go to my grave thinking it was a dumb move. I think Theo Epstein is a bad free agent signing GM. I will say this. If they knew that they could get him for the deal that the Phillies got him for,

I believe that he'd still be a Cubs well they offered him the same thing after they already offered it to Darvish so he just basically gave him the middle finger so he gave him the finger I can see why that would be the case but I'm very glad he's here I was getting a little bit concerned

with the K rate but if you can get ground balls, and I just need to see that he can strike guys out when he needs it, and his last couple of starts, he's done that. He's developed into a stopper, the guy you're paying $75 million for. Look, I'm just happy that the Phillies are here, and they're not there. What does that mean?

Well, they're closer to the top of the standings than the bottom of the standings. No matter what we said on this podcast, the Phillies are still 31-23. But I think we need to hammer that home. Because I know it exists, but we don't... I'm not saying we need to harp on it,

but we need to recognize that and establish it and reestablish it from time to time. If they lose 10 in a row, okay, then we're having a different conversation. They've lost four of their last seven, I believe. That's not good, but it's like

they're not out of it by any means. I think this is just what happens when you're watching a good baseball team. It's okay to critique a team. It's okay to critique a team. And it's been a frustrating part of the season as the offense. Hopefully, you get it going a little bit. But for the most part, it's been frustrating on the offensive side of the ball. I'm just here for it to see what happens next.

It's exciting. It's exciting to have an actually good, competent, mostly competent baseball team. Mostly confident. That's where I'm going to go. I always got to like throw the little margin for error. I'm just worried. Hopefully they are an improving baseball team. Hopefully they're improving.

But outside of the staff, I don't know what's really improving. Health. We hope that the health improves. Well, that's going to do it for this episode of the High Ops Podcast. 48 minutes of the High Ops Podcast. Is that too much? No. I think the people needed some Marshall Harris in their life. Yo, I'm just happy to be here.

Thanks for inviting me. Of course. I like to talk about baseball all the time. Baseball is the best sport to talk about. Baseball is just so many subplots. It's every day, a new matchup, a new... There's just so many subplots. Where does AT&T Park rank amongst your favorite atmosphere

alright so there's a couple ballparks I have not been to yet Seattle I'm trying to think of where else I haven't been Marlins Park I haven't been to don't think you're missing much but I think AT&T

is probably number three. I'm going to put my top park is PNC. Come on. Baseball atmospheres? Yeah, they have a good baseball atmosphere.

When they're good. When they're good. Like all teams, when they're good. Such a fraud city. Anyway. I think number two is going to be Fenway. How are you going to put PNC ahead of Wrigley? I just don't understand. Wrigley is a dump.

It's a beautiful dump. You know what? I haven't been there since they finished their renovations. But when I went, it's a dump. You know what it reminded me of so I went to Wrigley for the first time four years ago let me tell you what it reminded me of it reminded me of Shea

it's like a hundred years old I'm just telling you you know what's so bad about Shea Shea was a concrete slab of concrete well that's very Mets it fit the Mets. It's like on a hot summer day, you want to die.

By the way, did you see that Citi Field was literally on fire the other day? Yes, I did see that. 15 minutes. A microcosm of the New York Mets. Yeah, the Mets are bad. So you have AT&T Park number three. I think. I think.

You caught me off guard with this question. It's one in the morning. I'm just trying to. I know. Well caught me off guard with this question. It's one in the morning. I'm just trying to. I know. Well, this is prime time for me. This is about when I get off work. It used to be prime time for me. Get a little older.

Listen, you're over 40 now. Your bedtime is four hours ago. No, my bedtime is like now. So, yeah, off the top of my head, though, those would be the part. Oh, you know what I really love more than AT&T Park? And you're going to kill me for this. Everybody always kills me for this. Petco.

Love Petco. Stop. I love Petco. This is getting ridiculous. I love Petco. I mean, sure, you can like Petco. Listen, I'm going to dump the rest of this podcast because that was three of the worst answers I've ever heard. So you're censoring me now?

Is that really the worst answer? You asked my opinion and now you're censoring me? Baseball atmospheres, right? This is the definitive top five. And I can't believe you. Give me your definitive top five. Definitive top five. Well, hold on.

Have you been to all the ballparks? No, I've barely been to any ballparks. Why is it definitive? What I've watched on TV. No! Yes! No way. You know what you're doing right now?

You're just millennialing your way through the end of this podcast. Listen, AT&T Park is in my top four. My four favorite ballparks to watch games in, and atmosphere-wise. Fenway, Wrigley, Yankee Stadium, and AT&T Park.

Did you ever go to the old Yankee Stadium? No. Then just be quiet. Why does it matter? Because the fall-off from old Yankee to new Yankee Stadium

is real. It's real. I've missed the old stadium. You just said you've never been. I don't care. I've watched it on TV. That's not the same stadium. You just said you've never been. I don't care. I've watched it on TV. That's not the same.

Yes, it is. Jack. This is ridiculous. You're right. This is ridiculous. Jack, take it from somebody who used to be a sideline reporter for a baseball team, the Pittsburgh Pirates. So I've been a lot of places.

The only ones I haven't been to are like the newer ones and a couple of American League ones. The only ones I haven't been to are the newer ones and a couple of American League ones. AT&T, Petco, PNC, Fenway, Old Yankee Stadium was good, but it doesn't exist anymore. Boy, that Petco crowd. Camden Yards. Camden Yards is up there.

The Petco crowd really brought you in, wasn't it? Those crazy San Diego Padres fans. I guess I went to good games, man, in the middle of the summer. What were you doing then? Were you doing them during the Jake Peezy era? You know what they have? Wow, you're trying to really call me old. They have really... They have

really good and diverse food selection at Petco also. The sushi is amazing. I can't believe Petco's even in your top 10. Yo, Petco's lit. It's a great time, man. Not even the people in San Diego think Petco's lit. That's not true.

That's not true. Petco's amazing. The bottom five, like, sorry, top five overrated. Wrigley's right there. Dodger Stadium, right there. Can you accept that answer? Dodger Stadium being over can you accept that answer Dodger Stadium being overrated apparently since I've never been there

I can't even comment on the situation New Yankee Stadium overrated Citi Field I don't even know if it's overrated because do people even like Citi Field that's

I mean it was vintage Mets and then yeah those are my overrated places like I I'd rather go to a game

in Clearwater than go to like game in Clearwater than go to Wrigley Field. Well, no, that's it. That's a millennial thing. Well, I'm just going to leave it at that. All right. Well, that's going to do it for the iOS podcast.

We got a little rambling at the end. Let me know when you go some places just not on TV only. Fine, whatever. The Phillies are in AT&T ballpark this weekend. And the home of some of the great moments of the last seven years, 10 years of Phillies baseball. Because AT&T, I can't believe.

I can tell you what was not a great moment. When? They went to the playoffs. No, no, I know. I know. I'm just talking about, you know, and this is going to get even more rambly, but like Cliff Lee's first start when he was traded here was against the Giants.

I was there. Nice. You were there for that. The Eli Whiteside brawl in like 2011. Wow. Was not there for that. Which was some BS, and I hate that guy. I will forever hate that guy.

Obviously the playoffs stuff, but like the home of some memorable Phillies moments in the last like 10 years. Okay. That's fair. And I don't know. I like watching games out there. It's always fun.

And yeah, we'll be back with a new high hopes on Sunday. Thanks Marshall for joining me. Got a little rambly at the end, but that's okay. There goes another rubber tree. We don't do it, but we'll make,

we'll make that the new outro. I apologize. We don't have an intro or an outro, but that will be the new outro is you singing High Hopes with HK. I appreciate it, Jack. Thanks for having me. All right, we'll talk to you on Sunday. All-star closer, Kenley Jansen, we have a question.

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