High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - The Josh Harrison Emergency Pod
Episode Date: February 3, 2023James Seltzer and Jack Fritz talk Josh Harrison, the Philly sports run, and more. Presented by Miller Lite. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.c...om/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is the High Hopes Podcast.
High Hopes!
It's a bunch of baseball nerds talking about the Phillies.
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Yo!
It is another edition of the High Hopes Podcast.
We're here to talk about the most important thing going on in Philadelphia sports right now.
Josh Harrison, back with the Phillies!
In all seriousness, buddy, how you doing?
In all seriousness, I mean, we are Phillies guys.
We love the Phillies, but like, how about
Philadelphia sports, man? Like we got to cover a world series like three months ago, four months
ago, and now we're covering a super bowl. And this is a, is a really fun time, man. I'm, I'm,
I'm feeling it. It's good. It is good. Um, but I gotta be honest, like I'm ready for baseball.
I know you are, pal.
I know you are.
You only got one more game to go, buddy.
I know.
And speaking of other things, it hasn't been that memorable of a run so far.
You know, you yeah, you point this out.
You're dead right.
Say what you're going to say, but it is 100% dead right.
Like, I don't think there's been an Eagles moment this postseason
that would be in the top 10.
Honestly, maybe not the top 20.
Like, no joke, the moment of the Eagles run so far, the playoffs,
is just Son Reddick knocking Brock Purdy out of a game.
Like, that's it.
Like, there's been nothing.
knocking Brock Purdy out of a game. Like that's it.
Like there's been nothing like,
like the,
like Reese's like third funnest home run is,
is a bigger moment than that.
Yeah.
Without a doubt.
Can we agree?
Can we finally agree that football is boring?
It's like,
it's once a week,
like it's once a week.
That's why,
that's why people like it so much.
I mean,
it's fine.
I understand the violence, whatever.
But like just in feeling the intensity of playoff baseball,
like it's such a down.
It's not comparable.
It's not comparable.
It's not comparable.
It's just not.
Playoff baseball is just like factually.
It is not like some things are subjective this is not one of those things
it is objective playoff baseball is just better than playoff football it is for example for
example like last night i was i um i i watched highlights of game four no game game which one
game three the seven nothing no it was game four yes it's game four
against the Padres oh Padres so that was the the the gene or no the uh the 10-6 game yeah yeah it
was the comeback game and but but but someone on on YouTube put together um like they they synced
up all of LA and Franski's calls during the game so like i was able to hear them and also
re-watch like 34 minutes of the best highlights of the game and i i remember like we were at
battle's wedding so i kind of forget the beginning of it but well and it was so long the game that we
ended up getting home and still seeing most of where am i like the third inning i know um and
even in re-watching it i was like this is so much more intense like it's just
it's so much more intense even in re-watching
the games and we've said
this before and I know you do your little eagles
podcast whatever that is
but like
Citizens Bank Park is just such a
a louder
more raucous experience than Link and like
I think the Link's nice but they had it with the vet.
Like they, like the vet was a legitimate Eagles home field advantage.
The link just doesn't have it.
Like it just does not have the same level of like, you know,
in your face where loud, you know,
someone sent me last night because I posted the, the stock double.
No, no. I posted the Harper double.
In that game, in that game in that game the
seven six it's amazing it's probably it's probably the most underrated moment of the run because in
the moment it was a massive hit because it brought them back and it got the you know after they had
you know come back from four nothing and tired then they go down six four then they make it six
six and it was the thing that like put them in them in front to stay. And in the moment it was like, you know, price. And then
like he hits the Homer the next game. And like at the moment, honestly, I feel like it's like one
of the most forgotten, like amazing moments. Like that moment rocked when Harper hit that double
and went crazy. Yeah. Um, but you know, like the stadium, uh, like the, the stadium, like they zoomed in on Gresham and like the stadium shaking.
So it's just not comparable.
I mean, you were at the Eagles games.
Like I watched on TV and I can tell you on TV,
the link didn't sound one tenth as loud as Assistant Bank Park did.
But you were at the games.
Like you can actually say you actually went to the Eagles playoff games.
You were in both stadiums.
Like I'm sure it wasn't close.
And it's not a fence.
I actually think the Eagles do still, even though the link is stadiums. Like I'm sure it wasn't close. And it's not a fence.
I actually think the Eagles do still,
even though the link is not built the right way or whatever it is, where it's like, you know,
keeps that noise in like some other places.
Like even then I still think the Eagles have one of the better home field
advantages in the NFL.
If not the best, it's just that there's, you know,
there's just nothing like citizens bank parking.
I've never seen anything like, well,
even the best baseball stadiums aren't like that.
Well, someone sent me, and I'm sorry for blanking,
but someone sent me, they were at that game, NLCS game four,
and then they were at both Eagles games,
and they were monitoring the decibel level.
And game four was so much louder than any of the Eagles games.
And I know, I don't want to turn this into, like,
Eagles versus Phillies thing, but, you know, for so long,
it's just so validating.
Honestly, the beginning of this podcast is strictly for Elliot
and people like him who for years were like,
oh, baseball doesn't even matter in this city.
Like, the run just validated, like, dude,
it was so much better.
And it brought a lot of people back.
You know, James, the funniest part about
offseason high hopes
is that for the last couple of years,
it'd just be like,
well, we'd still be doing free agent talk or whatever.
Or we'd be talking about lineups or whatever.
The first, like like 25 minutes of every
high hopes is just reliving the phillies run over and over again and like i feel like we keep making
the same points of like the awesomeness of it but i like i legitimately can't help myself it's not
every day that they go on that kind of run and you know all of us were around for it so screw it
i'm going to talk about the phillies going to the world series every single day uh we do this
podcast i think yeah well especially because like you know what's there to talk about like the
phillies are good now you know they've proven they can be good they went out and got trey turner
they've stabilized the the starting
rotation andrew painter's on the way you know who's going to be a you know top 20 prospect on
every single prospect ranking list coming out soon and it'll still be under ranked and they've got
their bullpen is nasty and like deep and and all of a sudden it's like, you know,
it's like, what do we talk about, Jack?
We can't sit here and complain about, you know,
not hiring the right GM or not having a smart baseball team or, you know,
not doing things the right way or not having,
or having all these issues with the team to talk about. Like, like,
I got nothing to complain about with the Phillies right now.
I got nothing to say. I got other than, yeah. Hey Dave. Oh, I i talked to dave so dave and rousey was on the midday show you'll like this well
here's what i did i i i you'll like this i got dave on he calls in he actually called in like
right as we're coming back from break so it was like a little like i didn't have a ton of time
with him but i played dancing on my own as we're coming back you know no doubt producing um thank
you um but i got one i was like dave i was like i was
like you know it's like james seltzer wbc he's like oh dave dombrowski here and he's such a nice
guy i'm like dave listen i gotta tell you i'm like first out dave you're gonna be on with jody
cameron john richie i gotta tell you i'm like dave thank you so much um the phillies are my
favorite team baseball is my favorite sport and all we've wanted is a smart baseball team thank
you and he appreciated i think i literally said i said that exact phrase to him because i knew favorite sport. And all we've wanted is a smart baseball team. Thank you.
And he appreciated it.
I think I literally said,
I said that exact phrase to him because I knew you'd appreciate it.
And I knew I hope so.
I swear on Zoe's life.
I said to Dave Dombrowski,
Dave,
all we wanted here is a smart baseball team.
Thank you for making it happen.
Like some version of that,
whatever.
So yes.
And I just,
you know,
I've, I've genuinely had this feeling for the last i don't know two or three weeks but it's gonna be such a phillies eagles town like it's always
an eagles town i understand that but like the phillies are so right in there and like i just
don't think last year was some massive fluke And like they're never going to get back there
Like 93 for example
Like 93 never got back after that
It was a period of just dreck and dread
And that's how we got to 10,000 losses
And all of that
But they're just
They're so much better now
They're so much smarter
They're doing the Sirianni
Talking about you know fertilizing and watering
and everything under the a a a there will be no eagle slander no there's not this is only
philly's positivity i love nick sirianni that guy's awesome i'm very happy he's that good to
the eagle hold on big question for you yes it's not comparable because it's different sport yes
who would you rather have leading your franchise,
Sirianni or Rob Thompson?
That's a load.
I think, and I have a very real answer for this.
I just think that football coaches matter more.
They matter more.
I agree.
So I would say Nick Sirianni over.
And I also do really think, and I think Rob's great.
And I actually think it's like a similar thing
where Rob maybe does a little more passively,
but cultivates a culture where it seems like everyone has fun and he
makes players believe in themselves.
And he's real positive with guys and,
and like kind of gets the best out of guys.
And that's what Sirianni does.
I mean,
like I know it's hokey and all that,
but I,
I love his,
you know,
like,
like he is all like that.
There's no bigger motivator than love and,
and loving the guy next to you and
not wanting to let him down like yeah nick oh here we go there's too much too much i'm out
i'm out i i dig that stuff i think it works i believe in it you know i believe in i'm an
athlete you're human well that's because that's because he's basically you i mean i know you're
essentially the same guy like literally we would
be best friends i've been saying this for a while like we are our energies are like
right on live with each other meanwhile me and domper we're right i know i know me with the guy
who's my age me and nick both 41 he might have just turned 42 i think he's still 41 uh you with
this 60 or 58 year old 59 year old man that is so that is my wheelhouse um although
i will say it's so funny um like how they react to great things happening through their teams is
probably the most polar opposite of anything i've seen in my life like remember the video that was
caught when like segura got the hit or whatever. And he just like, he's looking down on his note card.
Like,
all right,
who can I bring in?
I know.
Like,
and like,
does it barely even like smirks and like serious Sirianni at that play
would have like literally like run out on the field and pick jeans to
grow up in a bear hug.
If you're a baseball manager.
Yeah,
exactly right.
But,
um,
and like,
like I'm not trying to discount the Sixers,
but like they gotta kind
of do it for me to believe them oh i'm with you they're playing great basketball but they have to
like get out of the second round like i'm sorry it is what it is but like it's it i just have
this feeling that the next like five years um like this philly's and eagles thing i mean the
eagles have sirianni jaylen howie's a hall of famer they have 24 to 24 year old receivers
well 125 123 whatever like they're so young on offense it's an offensive league it's great Howie's a Hall of Famer. They have two 24-year-old receivers, one's 25, one's going to be 23, whatever.
They're so young on offense.
It's an offensive league. It's great. And the
Phillies, it's like
they already have a core that was
at Game 6 of the World Series and
had beaten the team that hadn't lost in the
postseason yet and kind of had them on the brink
there for a little bit. Yeah, had them on the ropes.
Is it fair
to say they choked after the 7 the seven nothing game um they got no hit yeah i would say that's a joke job
but they had that they have that core but they're just starting now to do the things that that
great teams do and i mentioned this last time and what makes me so giddy and like why i'm not even
i'm not even like worried about them anymore like
james i used to go into seasons and like just be straight up worried all the time that that
everything's gonna crumble i know i know we heard it on this pod many times i mean geez like i'm so
stress-free with this phillies team because i i think they are building the east coast dodgers
and like i think the braves are awesome. I think the
Mets are going to spend money and they're going to be really good.
I,
these three teams are going to fight
for this division for the next five to seven
years. And I can't wait
to see it get going. And I can't wait to see these guys get
back to the postseason, get back to
playing in big games and create more
moments. Like, I think you mentioned this last podcast.
All we said for three years was I
want new memories.
And they gave us like 20 new memories in,
in,
in a three week stretch.
It was insane.
Like the,
the JT home run barely cracks the top 10.
The JT.
Literally when it happened,
I turned you and I said,
that's the coolest thing I've ever seen live.
Little did I know I would see the Harper,
which like a million times cooler live like a week later you know yeah so i just think that um i i've just i'm so happy with where everything is kind of trending and
you know the trucks are on their way down to clear water today and um you know we were what uh on the
20th of january we were officially a month away from the first spring training games.
And, like, if you know me, like, seeing spring training games
with the seventh, eighth inning, we're going to see, like,
Mick Abel and, like, the young kids up playing.
It's like, that's better than the World Series for me.
So, it's beautiful stuff.
And what a little time.
I know.
Like, when was the last time we got to just, like, revel?
And I think you make a great point about Philadelphia sports right now.
And look, it's smart people running the organizations.
Dave Dombrowski has been a godsend.
Both the roster and the behind-the-scenes stuff,
what they're building, like Jack said.
I mean, Jack, another thing jack said for years
was i want a philly's way i want a way they do things a smart system for creating baseball
success and they have it they're building it it's it's it's it's so exciting and then you know how
he and the jaylen nick thing like there really is a a positivity in the scene look i i still like daryl morey i know there's a lot of people in the city who are not daryl morey guys
but i think he's a super smart guy and um it's it's exciting and look another thing you've said
for years that i think we have to apply now we can't say for years you were talking about this
team and the experience they just had like we can't say for years, years on this podcast, maybe like since the beginning, this team just doesn't know how to win.
And then when they learn how to win, not say that that's important.
Like it's important that they now know how to win.
Like it is super talented.
They just brought in Trey Turner and Soto and all these dudes and Walker.
It's it's awesome.
Another thing that we learned is that like maybe the most overrated term in sports
is experience matters.
It just doesn't.
I mean, players are-
We saw it with the Eagles.
I mean, the 2017 Eagles went up against literally the most experienced group
of guys, head coach and quarterback and team they could go up against,
and they won.
It doesn't matter.
Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah,
it doesn't.
Um,
and you know,
as,
as the season kind of plays out,
um,
you know,
I'm just kind of,
I'm excited to see,
I'm excited to head into a season where they made the world series.
That kind of weight's been lifted off their shoulders.
Um,
and they can kind of just go out and play.
You know,
we talked at the end of the year, talk the end of the year like um they were just tight and and
how they need to just get in so that they don't have to worry about all this overwhelming like
are you gonna break the streak are gonna break the streak are gonna break the streak thing
um and now like i keep having to remind myself in a way that Trey Turner is here.
I know.
Because, like, it's like, there's been so much other things going on.
It just feels stupid to add Trey Turner to it.
Like, it just feels, like, stupid.
Like, sure.
Yeah, like, bring in Trey Turner.
You're basically, like, I love Gene.
You're replacing Gene Segar with Trey freaking Turner.
Who, what was it, on MLB.com or MLB Network? replacing Gene Segar with Trey freaking Turner. Who
was it on MLB.com or MLB
Network was the number one shortstop in baseball?
They added the number one shortstop in
baseball to a team that was
against the World Series.
You look at that. You look at
Tywon Walker being added as the
fourth guy. And then you mentioned
it, but Andrew Painter, man.
Seeing him come
up and like possibly blossom into future ace and then okay super important andrew painter question
for you eric you'll finish your thing and then i'm gonna jump with a super important i get all
right i got excited about it because so so i just saw um i believe he's number 13 on keith law's list uh friend of the podcast or not friend
of the podcast um i think i saw him uh i'm not sure i saw him like top 12 something like that
i think on another list um do do you get excited when you see him that high or does it bother you
that he should be higher and he's not higher how do you as a
prospect wonk that you are and a and a um like a intaker of all these lists i mean consumer of all
that you love to see where all these guys are ranked like let's say for the law one andrew
painter at 13 is that like really cool that he's the 13th ranked prospect in the sport or is it like yo he's
better than that so twofold uh one is that like welcome to to uh opening your eyes of course he's
a better prospect than i think graystone rigas stinks like i i haven't seen it from him like i
don't like the mechanics i don't like stuff. I don't like any of it.
So congratulations.
I finally realized that Andrew Painter,
who has walked under a guy per nine at AA at 19 and struck out 13 plus, is a better pitching prospect.
Real quick, just for those who don't know,
Grayson Rodriguez, prior to these lists,
commonly accepted as the best pitching prospect in baseball it's absurd
it's it's absurd I'm sorry
it is it is um
so like congratulations
um I will say like it
it makes me happy it does
but to be completely honest
like it makes me happier than McAble's
on them yeah and then he's still like
I think it's at 77 on laws
because I expect Andrew Painter to be top 10 because he's like been talked think he's at 77 on laws because i expect andrew painter to
be top 10 because he's like been talked about he's starting to get buzzed seeing abel still
thought of as in a high uh regard as good and i saw dude griffin gary was at 51 on baseball
baseball prospectuses 51 51 um so where was abel on there he had to be after 51 i would think right
they have mad abel i think he was ahead of abel but i i don't i forget i don't have the i have it in front of
me but like you know it's just so exciting that all three guys are generating massive buzz but
my other point just to like lay my cards on the table like if it was a hitting prospect i'd
probably be a little bit more excited. Like they're just,
cause pitching prospects just kind of,
and this has kind of been burned in fantasy baseball for like the last 10
years.
Tell me about it.
I don't,
I never get excited about pitching prospects now,
like ever.
So,
so the fact that Boris Whitley just get like picked up off like waivers by
somebody.
This guy was like the number one
pitching prospect to me it's lucas giolito's fault frankly it's all lucas giolito's fault
he came around at least eventually and now he's gonna get non-ten or like copac like then he's
like had moments but isn't good you know like it's it is such a crap shoot with these guys exactly
so i guess i've just been burned by it for so long that i'm like
i'm really excited i can't wait i think he's going to be unbelievable here but it's like i if it was
a hitter it'd be such a different story you know because like hitters i feel like just generally
it's so much easier to protect them i will say i will say i really do believe that in to your point in playing 20 over 20 years of fantasy baseball
and you know i've been in i'm in dynasty leagues i've been in long-term keeper leagues minor league
spots all that stuff having done a lot and not to your level you're a sicko when it comes to knowing
the minor leagues and all that um but i will say, like, with Painter,
not even just partially from watching him, obviously,
but really just from stats and looking at his profile and his resume, essentially, and all that,
like, it seems like as long as he stays healthy,
he's going to be awesome.
Like, guys who do what he's been doing
at the levels he's been doing him at the age he's
been doing that like they're usually pretty yes like like for example jeff pontus uh who does uh
prospect writing for baseball america uh he said he's the best pitching prospect he's ever seen
dude like it's not like it's not crazy it's not again you out, and it wasn't a ton of innings,
but the dude had a 12.6K per nine and a.6 walks per nine in double A at 19.
You don't play in double A at 19 unless you're a freaking swimmer. You don't even lace them up in double A at 19 unless you're a superstar prospect.
And this kid is doing that.
If he had a three ARA at 19, like if he had like a three ari at 19
or if he had like a you know what uh if he was striking out a batter per nine and walking two
per nine at 19 in double a i'd be like wow that's pretty damn good like good for you buddy like
it's insane what he well and to make it even you even, get the hype train going even more,
I guess he just started
throwing to get ready
for spring training and stuff.
You shut down your arm.
I always shut down from
October
to about January.
Basically the same thing as what Payne was probably doing.
Yeah. I mean, I had to get back up to
82. One sub-pitcher to another you know just guys talking just talking baseball
you know just just based off prospect baseball's prospect i do have i did have one email from the
cubs in high school so it's absolutely no big deal to me but um i got offered to tour a union
college's campus for football. Nice.
You didn't want to go that route.
No,
I was never going to play.
It was more like a friend of mine.
Uh,
uh,
uh,
favorite of my coach,
who went to union.
Um,
but I guess like,
he's just recently started throwing bullpens in anticipation for,
um,
spring training,
uh,
at Cressy.
And if you don't know anything about Cressy,
it's like,
it's where they got Brian Kaplan from,
um,
who was like the director of pitcher development or whatever.
So like the liaison in a way between the major league pitching stuff and the
minor league pitching stuff was things that smarter organizations do now.
Um,
and apparently he was just like sitting 95 already,
like just already sitting 95 from,
from day one.
Um, and then looking at like
photos he's already jacked so um it's just he's he he's the best he's best prospect that philly's
had i think ever i mean i know cole through the same in my life now in my lifetime this is the
best one i mean he's better than don brown who's you know he's the best yeah he's
the best i also ever had i also liked that he was there for the playoff games and stuff you know we
saw him walking around like all that like i just like that's kind of you know i like that he good
got exactly it's like reese is here and he's like yeah i spent my whole career and never heard
anything and then obviously just saw up like he's like you know from his minor league days now like we never really did anything got there so
he's always like oh it's probably not really real like i don't believe this like painters coming up
being like i know what i could do i know the kind of games i could pitch in like that's cool i think
that's probably at least somewhat of a motivator well and and people forget that i did say to him
hey this will be you next year so when when he's standing on the mound in game six and pitching the Phillies to a World Series title,
just remember that one man, again, like I just mentioned, pitcher to pitcher.
Yeah.
We locked eyes.
I locked eyes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you're and you're tall.
You had to look up.
Oh, well, he's massive.
I know.
I know.
He is huge. uh he's got it
it's good he's got it all so uh yeah so i gave him a whole like little motivational talk um
and i look forward to when they're making the parade speed i gave him when he's on the when
he's on the float and he's going down broad street and eventually gets back to the spank
park he's okay i was here last year. One very smart,
well-educated looking fan,
uh,
said to me,
see you next year.
Oh,
you're,
you're implying that he wouldn't know his Jack Fritz.
He's probably like,
I know what I want to get to radio superstar.
Jack Fritz told me you got this kid next year.
That's you.
Yeah.
And it was,
it was all I needed to hear.
It was really the the if i
had to look back and pick a moment you know where when he's accepting the world series mvp the
youngest world series mvp in the history of the sport right i'm i'm just assuming um and he and
he you know my hey andrew can you believe it season. You're here now accepting the World Series MVP. How did this happen?
Well, Tom
McArthur, Tim.
Sure.
He's called a World Series game since
2013. I was going to say
Tom McCarthy, Tim Carver, lots of people.
Probably Joe Davis and John Smalls.
I said Tom McArthur instead of Tom McCarthy.
Regardless, whoever's in the locker room,
well, I look back to that moment.
It really just, it all turned for me.
And Jack Fritz, radio superstar, said,
you got this, kid.
Well, what people really forget
is I also saw him down on spring training
last year walking around the ballpark.
You're right. People do forget that.
So it all came full circle at the Super Bowl,
at the World Series at the world series and
i know well i can't you know imagine a city being in the world series in the super bowl in the same
year it's like it's unbelievable jack i mean like in all honesty like i i started doing radio 11
years ago or whatever 12 years ago whatever right right i had one super bowl in in 12 years and now
all of a sudden there's a World Series and a Super Bowl
like four months apart.
It is...
Big fan.
Do this more, guys.
Do this more.
Andrew Painter is going to be better than any Eagle.
So that's my one.
Any Eagle out there.
Put out the poll.
Who will have a better career, Andrew painter and jalen hurts yes do you
think like you know 99 to 1 honestly it would be a mistake i think hurt's gonna be have an amazing
career andrew painter is going to be awesome like i i he's he's a pitcher so we can't you know and
like we talked about before but like i legitimately let to your point if I had to stake my house on a Phillies prospect
before they ever threw a ball or swung a bat in Major League Baseball,
this is the dude I would, to this point in my life,
this is the guy I would most want to stake my house on.
Him and Starling Cabba for me.
It's still impartial.
I know.
Imagine the guy. You're such a new, you always have the guy such a new you always have the new flame
you're always on i know it's so bad but you know i just feel so shameful honestly oh no
seltzer dumped out what a loser well i guess it's just me um i'm trying to debate if i should keep this in or not um but i was i mean should i wait
for seltzer at this point i guess i could just no he's back oh never doubted him what's up the old
man i mean internet went out or something wow embarrassing moment out of you i i didn't do it
i mean what do you want me to do? Honestly, it was probably Zoe.
I'll tell you.
Before I recorded Zoe, it was the sweetest thing ever.
She's doing this genie thing.
She's into this genie on one of the shows she watches called Shimmer.
Zoe will like to be like, I'm Shimmer.
You have to call her Shimmer or Skye or whatever character it might be.
In this case, she does the wishes.
Shimmer's genius.
She'd be like the,
I don't remember,
but something like that.
This is the second wish of the day.
And then she said,
what is she's like,
I wish that daddy doesn't have to do work.
And then he can stay here in bed and not go to the podcast. And I was like,
Zoe,
you're killing me right now.
That sucks.
That's tough to leave.
But then,
then I was like,
and then she was like,
I wish daddy can do his podcast. I think she felt bad that i gave her a guilt trip for it but it was very sweet i love that you have to guilt your own uh three-year-old daughter
she was being very sweet she four is a good age i'm in on four let me tell you as uh uh you know
for future baby boyfriends down the road um And I guess boys and girls could be different.
One and two, you know, nice.
You know, they're little.
So it's like two is nice,
but they're not really a full person
until they start to.
Three stunk.
We called her a three-nager,
like just a little brat most of the time.
Four, we're like, you know,
two months into four.
Big fan of four, dude.
Four has been great
really enjoying four so for those wondering i i look forward to the uh 20 27 phillies
yeah there you go and uh you know my four-year-old yeah um crap what was i gonna say oh well speaking
of uh there was some like six- old on TikTok today that are on Instagram
reels.
I was hitting like tanks and they had the elite bat speed.
And I was like, I can't watch it.
I can't watch it.
I need to make sure that I keep the expectations low after all these efforts.
Well, let's hope let's hope for your sake, like Zoe, that your boy is a lefty because
makes it easier. Let's just say yeah well
you're less for zoe zoe would have to you know break some barriers to play a major in baseball
let's be honest but but for for your boy a lefty would help it's it's a it's a bit of a leg up
let's be no i know and people have asked me like are you gonna make sure he's a lefty or whatever we've all seen ben simmons you can't do that you can't do that but but but you can hope you have
a lefty again she has you know nothing to do with just even not as her being a boy and for the
sports of it all like when when i found out like when i you could tell pretty early she always like
lead with her left hand and stuff like that but when when we were sure as I was lefty, it was one of the great days of my life.
Like, it's so cool that she's lefty.
It's the one of the five coolest things about her.
It's awesome.
Yeah.
I guess I just hate lefty athletes.
You know what I mean?
Like, nah, like they throw the football wrong.
They shoot a basketball.
No, no lefty lefty quarterbacks.
I agree. Outrage.ged i mean they're kind
of cool to look at but they never looks right but which is funny though because did you see that
video of tua where the dude flipped it around and made him look like a righty and it looked like
totally normal it was like oh he just throws normal anyway um i actually think lefty basketball
players are like some of the coolest things like it's so much cooler than right basketball player
and lefty pitchers are way cool and right pitchers it's just a fact we all know lefty hitters are cool
cool righty hitters fact lefty hitters are stating facts jack lefty hitters are cooler um i wanted to
ban left-hand relievers at one point last year so it's hard they're still cooler looking it just
looks cooler but like let me just i think there's nothing i'm a big fan of a power right
handed pitcher that's just you know this is your inherent bias and you being a righty and just
admit it admit it you want your kid to be a lefty it's okay please let jack's boy be a lefty i'm
doing it for you well great for you i will say it's easier to go d1 uh what do you think i'm
talking about here you go it's for
the i for your you're ahead of the game man trying to save me some uh some some college fund money
i'm trying to get your kid to the majors man what are you trying to do i thought that was what we
were doing here i already laid out my plan that's what i'm saying you're like talking about d1
scholarships that should be like a given i'm talking about the majors bro extensive training i want i want i
want baby boy fritz to not even have to choose to not to actually have a choice where he's like
do i want a d1 scholarship or do i want to go to the team that just drafted me that's my goal for
baby boy fritz who by the way when he is 18 i will still be calling him baby boy fritz i just
mean no matter what you choose Because when we're doing this podcast
and he's walking across the stage as a filly,
it's going to be, that's a future
superstar. Yeah, that's a good point.
What kind of podcast title
are we going to come up for that one?
Honestly, I hope we're still doing
the podcast. You know what I mean?
Why wouldn't we be? I don't know.
I don't know. Even if it's just you and me
hanging out somewhere and doing it, I feel like we're good. I know. I don't know. Even if it's just you and me hanging out somewhere and doing,
I know.
Yeah.
Cause like,
you never know,
you know where it's all heading,
you know,
and it goes to podcasts and stuff.
The internet's going to break or something.
I have no idea.
Look,
you and I,
if the world,
you know,
goes analog again,
we'll just sit with a tape recorder and we'll record ourselves talking.
And then we'll,
we'll make copies of the tapes. We'll mail out to people old school i i lived that jack okay
and lived in that world that was never real that was not real yeah that was a real world
we used to mail each other tapes that was a thing that i mail each other tapes
oh my just email it
i don't see how
I don't see any other way where that would
make sense.
Sounds miserable, buddy.
But no,
I tell you what,
I play it off pretty cool,
obviously, because that's
what I do. I'm very calm.
But I can't
wait to be a dad,
dude.
I can't,
I think it's going to be so fun.
I can't wait.
I can't wait to talk about all this podcast.
I can't wait to bring everyone into,
you know,
our little buddy's life and,
uh,
and,
and,
and hopefully everything,
everything goes well.
So,
uh,
it'll go well.
It's the single best thing in life.
I was just talking about this yesterday or two days ago where I was like,
honestly,
it's sometimes hard to function with how much you love your kid where you're
just like bursting with love where you're like,
how can I even like live life?
Because like all I care about is this creature.
It's the best thing in the world.
Like it is.
And then like seeing yourself in them
and seeing them do and then sadly you know in zoe's case you know personality wise being way
too much of her dad let's be honest she is she is a pistol um but you know it's awesome and they
look like you and they do things you do and they you know have little
mannerisms that you have or that your dad had or that you're you know whatever brother has like
it's it's um it's like i always it's so funny because i always say it's such a unique experience
and it's not because like most people do it but to you yourself it is a very unique feeling it's
something you've never felt or experienced before that is very cool you know well end of end of march buddy end of march this whole thing is this whole thing is um so look at
this an opening day baby how about it you couldn't have planned it better so every year your kid gets
to get excited about their birthday and opening day around the same time like this is magic well
and let's say if it happens the same day
I mean it's not the end of the world but it'd be late
for example
but like I'm talking about just the general
idea I know the lead in the baseball
season with their birthday is magic
and like this is going way
too far to the old
Fritz brain
but I'd be lying if I haven't like geeked out
about the idea of like taking them out of
school and like hey we're going we're going to the game today you know what i mean but at the
same time like i could also be working two to six at that point so it wouldn't really work
um i think i need a big life change but um you got some time for that buddy you got some time
so i don't want to spring something on you mid podcast uh uh we're having
such a good time no we're having a great time this is not derailing from that but i'm trying
to i'm trying to think of a way to maximize our youtube presence by the way okay if you want to
uh should we say hi to people is that an idea no what i'm thinking is it maybe at the end of
every podcast like until like the regular season starts at least like we could say get some
questions in or yeah and like okay all right let's so right now you're saying like the end of the pod like
okay if you want to watch some questions and so i did see a question before that i wanted to
i know and i think i think it's fun if we like kind of you know all right so first of all uh
all the people coming hi aj ryan nate david, David, Scott, Roto cod. What up buddy? Brett, Jared mailing list is the new auto
downloaders strong. That's a dual pod fan. Appreciate you, my friend,
Doug. I do. That's my people. My favorite, favorite, favorite people.
Doug Kittrell.
Doug, Doug, Doug owns the alpaca farm down in Virginia oh Doug yes I love that all right so
so we'll get to question I do want to respond to this one uh Ryan hey guys is Jack comment on ESB
stealing his every day of championship stream idea Ryan um you realize that wasn't an idea
that was the Phillies played every day so we did podcast because the Phillies played that was never a like hey let's do a daily pod that was just what happened so but not to rain on this
this is actually you know a separate thing with go birds like oh let's do pods every day because
the eagles are in the Super Bowl when they're not playing so very different thing but but you know
I appreciate the attempt to you know sir controversy well let
me just first address this real quick um i will say it seems like esp has been uh has been trying
to up his uh ideas you know what i mean and it feels like every little bit you guys do is pretty
close to what we've done like it's what do you want
you're the goat of bits all right you know that they every like i mean let's be honest i mean you
do a bit every day on the radio did was that your did you come out with that out of the the brilliance
of your brain or is that like i don't know a radio thing you hear me now i don't know. Do you do something every day or not? Well, some do say
that life
is a bit.
You might as well live it.
That's true.
Are you talking about the top five?
Obviously, yes.
Yeah.
I totally stole that.
But, I mean,
made it way better. What other top five gets talked about like can we
just break the fourth wall here most things in radio and podcasting are stolen like there are
not that many original ideas left honestly in all honesty not to pump you up jack is maybe the best
that i've ever worked with in terms of original
bit ideas and stuff like that like i've actually never met anyone who's as good as it as good at
it i'm serious as good as jack is he is the best i've ever met in it like he is so freaking talented
with that but most bits are stolen most bits are redone like oh yeah well you know it just is what
it is we did
we did totally steal a murder hammer is the most popular show on the midday show like that was my
idea for the show it's every other sports trivia thing something schwab this to that like it's the
same thing like we all do the same stuff um and full disclosure we did uh steal emergency podcast from spike yeah of course yes a spike term so um
listen a lot of things are stolen top five five stolen um i hope so totally original um
yeah yeah no i just i like uh i just like seeing if i can get elliot tight i know if i can get
what he does what she does he can get in tight. He doesn't like certain things
and you have a tendency to poke those things.
Nate Gerdoski
says, guess what?
The Eagles are in the Super Bowl.
How about talk about that?
First and foremost,
the Philly sign Josh Harrison
and Happy Truck Day is the title of this
YouTube that you're watching.
Second of all, in all honesty, any true High Hopes fan listening, which Nate, glad to have you. this youtube that you're watching second of all in all honesty any true i
hopes fan listening which nate you know glad to have you i'm guessing you're not like a legit
well he sounds like a seltzer fan yeah sounds like which is great thank you nate oh james
honestly correct sounder the eagles in the super bowl in all honesty though like is this the most
eagles we've ever talked on a pod like it's in the running like this might be the most time
times the word eagles has been said in the
history of IOPs podcast,
which they're in the Superbowl.
That's,
that's fair.
It should be,
but you know,
like,
well,
maybe not the pod to complain about it comparative to other pods.
Well,
and I like,
um,
I like trying to find little cross sport,
uh,
things to where like,
and I,
and I, and i have been thinking
because i have to think about the eagles every single day of my life um you know like i've been
thinking about the trajectory of uh of both franchises and where they're kind of going and
it's just like because i i bits aside i i do love the eagles yes you're an eagles fan and it's just
what we like we're four for four we love all our teams here three for four yeah i mean the other aside, I do love the Eagles. Yes, you're an Eagles fan. And guess what? We're 4-4-4.
We love all our teams here.
3-4-4.
Do they exist anymore?
That's the one thing. Ike and I were talking about this the other day.
And I was like,
why is it so bad that I like the Phillies
more than the Eagles?
Why is that such an offensive thing?
I guess because for years,
people were told the Eagles are the only thing that matters. it's like yeah like i agree but they're also once a
week you know what i mean like the phillies are it's much more a commitment to like the phillies
well i always i always appreciated the way the camera went about like and it's almost like
to the point where it's like you know he's almost annoying about how he does it but like he won't
even answer questions on the air about,
who would you like to see win the next title in Philly?
Or which Philly team has your favorite?
He won't pit the teams against each other.
He hates it.
He's always like, I like all four teams equally.
Sorry, that's how I feel.
And whether that's true or not,
that's always been his kind of message. And I've always appreciated that because like,
yeah,
we all have our favorite teams and stuff,
but,
but we all love Philadelphia sports.
It's okay to be a fan of all of these teams.
And look,
that one of the cool things about these runs has been seeing all the
teams like love each other.
And like all these players,
James Harden at the,
at both events,
you know,
and beat at the Phillies,
all these guys,
Brandon Graham,
Jason Kelsey,
like Phillies players at that stuff. Like, it's all
awesome. Also,
like, I don't know,
everyone's got a favorite, you know,
kid, I think. Wow.
Wow.
You know,
I like the Phillies more than the Eagles.
Sue me, you know.
I will say the early
2000s Eagles, they definitely were more exclusive
like they didn't they weren't very well that yeah that was welcoming to the that was joe banner joe
banner was like no get over we're the big dog everyone else should whatever and they were they
were jerks about it and it was a shame it sucked it's awesome now it is it is a good time so all
right um everything's okay shout Shout out to Randarty.
Hey, hey, hey, James.
Hey, James.
Hey, go birds, pal.
Oh, I know.
Go birds.
Whoa.
I know.
Dude.
I know.
Don't don't get too excited.
I might need to end the pod.
It's all downhill from here.
Wow.
Our buddy RotoCod is correct.
I was talking about trading fish tapes in the middle before he caught me on that one that is correct we did used to mail each other fish tapes
concerts on tape of different shows i thought i thought you're talking like
bike of the mad dog tapes no but people did that though yeah like people used to do that
so of course i didn't but people did um can i ask you a question about a comment here jared here hey michael jordan didn't
invent basketball am i missing something here well i think he's talking about uh bits being
stolen and and whatever oh i get it okay good good good yes jared i apologize you're right
good point like he's the best bit of a bit of an all yeah a bit of an offshoot of it, but I like it. All right, one more?
One more.
Okay.
All right, Dan Smedley.
Oh, our guy.
Baseball, one with our buddy Dan.
Enola or Wheeler, best Cy Young dark horse future bet?
Thoughts?
Do you also want to throw anyone?
How about this?
Let's test Jack all around.
As Jack the gambler and Jack the baseball fan,
Jack the pitching
savant.
Give us your Cy Young dark horse.
Period. Doesn't have to be a Philly.
You're the worst, dude. I don't know.
Hold on.
Yeah, you're the worst.
I really don't. Because last year I had
Rodon before everyone. Well, sort of.
Which is close. I know. I wasted five bucks on that because you told me to yeah but did you did you cash out no i should have
were there good cash out yeah i had like 10 i cashed out like 80 i don't whoa really god you're
you're good i'm not good i'm not thanks jared jared jack you were right i was wrong sorry jared
i apologize um i hope this sounded good.
Oh, man.
I feel like there's one that I'm missing.
Well, first of all, take Luis Castillo in the AL.
I'll make a good routine.
And he's in that ballpark.
That's a good one.
I just asked for one.
Boom.
You nailed it.
I know.
But talking about Patrick Corbin.
Just kidding.
Yeah. it. I know, but in talking about Patrick Corbin, just kidding. Yeah, at least he's still on the
old $100 million or whatever.
I think that
Nolan and Wheeler are going to
honestly kind of not
pitch enough to be in the... That was my
exact thought.
Because I think if they're smart,
you can't...
Times have changed now. Two years ago, you needed to pitch Wheeler if they're smart, you can't like the times have changed now.
Like two years ago, you needed to pitch Wheeler into the ground because he's your only like
stop stopper.
Um, try to get the playoffs last year.
They shut them down for a month in the middle of the year.
Um, whatever this year we talked about a lot, but I think they need to manage those innings
as best as they can.
So, um, like if neither, if neither pitches more than 170 innings
in the regular season, I'll be happy.
I think 170
should be their cutoff, which leaves them
about 30 plus
heading into the postseason.
That's my answer. I don't think any are really going to be
Cy Young contenders.
Have you also noticed with NOLA
that there's like...
People are starting to make the Hall of Fame case for him?
No, I didn't notice it.
All I've heard is that the sign room extension case that people made, people are making that.
I mean, look, I mean, he'd need to do this for a lot longer.
But like he's always been a numbers have been a little bit better than the, you know, feel. Like when you watch Aaron Nola for a season,
you don't feel like his numbers are quite as good
at the end of the year.
And you hear, oh, he's second in F4 or whatever.
And you're like, you know, he's this and that.
And it's like, really?
Like, he's good.
But like, I never felt like he was one of the five best pitchers
in the sport this year, you know?
Yeah, well, and I think his,
I think the amount of innings he pitches adds a lot to that because he is, I mean, he's a workhorse. Yeah, no, I think the amount of innings he pitches adds a lot to that
because he's a workhorse.
It's honestly shocking given the amount of torque that he puts on his elbow.
Dude, I guarantee you if someone goes back five years in the High Hopes,
four years, whatever, in the High Hopes pod, don't do this to anyone.
But if they did, went back in the archives or whatever, you know, don't do this anyway. But if they did went back in that, you know, archives or whatever,
like you used to say this, you've,
you've talked about this years in the past and it's almost become something
we forgot about,
but you've talked about the torque on the elbow and how that makes you
nervous. Like I remember these conversation years ago.
Well, it's cause it's cause it's like not how it's totally like the elbow is
literally so exposed in the pitching motion because it goes like not how it's totally like the elbow is literally so exposed in the pitching
motion because it goes out in front of the rest of the arm and it turns into like a rubber band
effect in a way um and that's how he gets such good movement on his stuff sometimes in the curveball
and whatnot but like it's it's not really how it's supposed to work so and i guess a real rubber arm
like that's like a phrase used to hear all the time he like kind of really has a rubber arm well it's also i guess and this is where i disagree with so many people with the
whole like you got to shut guys down and whatnot but i think part of the nola thing is like his
body is just adjusted to it you know um and i think limiting innings hurts guy's ability to
um you know pitch through things like that's why I thought the Phillies playing last year with Painter was so smart
because he was pitching every week,
but it was once a week.
And they went into games like a Friday, Saturday, Sunday
kind of starter in college or in high school
rather than, hey, you're going to pitch Monday
and you're going to come back on Saturday.
It was just once a week.
But he got over 100 innings.
And I think they're actually finally getting back to like
playing baseball which is a crazy
concept yeah I'm with you
all right did you have anything
take back wise yeah I got a couple
things I should have gotten there quicker
but you know we did the whole YouTube thing
this is a hey tune in on our YouTube thing
and maybe I get a question answer we'll do that more next
time especially because as Jack pointed out
before you know we don't really have that much to talk about.
I feel like we should give at least one Josh Harrison take.
Oh, my God.
We forgot to talk.
That is honestly the most high-opening thing of all time.
That is 50 minutes to get to the main topic.
That's actually almost like a bit.
It wasn't on purpose.
I really like that they signed Josh Harrison.
Good take.
I really like it.
I think, look, a guy who can play multiple positions,
he's a perfect kind of fit for what they needed.
I appreciate that they went over the second luxury tax threshold
for a $2 million signing.
It just shows that I think they're going to be willing to add guys in season,
to add salary in season, to do kind of whatever it takes
to push this team over the top when it matters philosophically,
you know,
I think there it's like a signing where it's like 2 million bucks,
but it's also,
you know,
showing that they're,
they're going to keep plugging holes.
Like they're not content to just say,
all right,
we're set.
Let's go into the season because we're under this or under that or rat
this or whatever.
Like,
let's go,
you know,
I really liked it a lot.
Well, uh, I liked that in 2021 this or whatever. Like, let's go. You know, I really liked it a lot. Well, I like that in 2021 under Kevin Long.
He batted like 297.
He was great when they traded him.
I remember we were like, we just gave him to them and he's been great for them.
We were like, oh, that's annoying.
So I could play a bunch of different positions.
You know, replacing him with Maiton, I think, is is perfectly fine and that's why it was always
ridiculous like the takes around the the soto trade it's like they got a guy that has potential
to be a dominant reliever for two bench guys that like in a perfect world don't really play
so he kind of fills that role elite clubhouse guy um and i don't know why they ever got rid
of him frankly like a couple years ago we were annoyed about it we didn't like it when they got rid of him i probably not possible but a part of
me wonders if he can play center field if my one my one big fear about this team is so like
and i don't think it's gonna come to fruition but like brandon marsh is a career like 520 ops guy
against lefties and i know that's like different because he came here and was a different
player.
But he has even the post season.
And even when he came over and was still bad at two 80 or whatever,
two 88,
it's not like he was ever crushing lefties.
And I know we can do the whole theory of like,
well,
as long as he plays good defense,
et cetera,
field,
who cares?
And I'm in that,
like I'm given,
I'm giving Brandon Marsh,
he's starting every day for me if possible.
But there's a part of me that wonders, and this
is probably something that could handle the trade deadline,
do they have a righty hitter that
can play center field?
If they are facing a nasty lefty and
want to give him a day. And I guess
it's Dalton Guthrie,
but, I mean,
Dalton Guthrie
barely played last year.
And he seems like all the minor league guys rave about is grittiness and whatnot.
So maybe he is.
But there's a part of me that's like, I wonder if he can do it.
I don't think he can because he's getting older.
It'd be tough.
He's played center in the past.
The time is tough.
Cause he's getting older.
It'd be tough.
He's done.
He's played center in the past.
The time is tough,
but look,
I think,
look,
I think you're,
he's definitely someone you can pinch it late in games for Marsha.
The go to him and maybe make a double switch and put someone in center or whatever.
I double switch without pitching is a fun thought.
But I also think that look,
he's going to be the eighth or ninth hitter in the lineup.
He's going to play the whole season at the age of 25.
He just turned 25 like a month ago or whatever.
So, you know, I'm going to,
I'm willing to give Marsh some reps against lefties and,
and see if he could develop and stuff because he is really young and he's
still learning.
And we finally have him here with our guys with Kevin Long and stuff.
So I think you give him a chance to, to figure it out.
And if you can, I think that's something that you do supplement.
And look, look, they know Guthrie better than we do.
In the limited spots we saw him last year, he was fine.
I have no problem with him.
If the guy we got last year had a couple big hits here and there
and made some plays in the outfield, like, fine, sure.
I think it's okay as a fourth outfielder to play multiple spots.
It's fine. But I agree with you. I think, look, and I think this is such a sign it's okay as a fourth outfielder to play multiple spots. It's fine.
But I agree with you.
I think, look, and I think this is such a sign.
It's actually funny to wrap it back to the Eagles again,
like we've been doing all pot.
It is kind of the funny thing where, you know,
with the Eagles and the Super Bowl,
where the thing we're most concerned about with the roster is like,
oh, can we get Aaron freaking Sipas back?
Who's like a horrible punter to begin with,
but he's better than Brett Kern somehow.
So it's like, that's like the last thing that we're worried about like the only thing it's
like this philly team is so good right now that you're sitting here being like hey let me tell
you a little worried about the fourth outfielder backup center fielder spot like you need a dude
there and maybe he got three to do but i'm not sure he's the dude like that's what we're talking
about i think is a really good sign of where the Phillies are at.
Not a bad franchise.
Some other things to take
back. Real quick, again, 50
minutes to talk Josh Harrison is
I wish it were a
bit because I would feel better about it.
I feel kind of dumb about it, but in
hindsight, it's quite funny because it's like
a bit.
Pat McCarthy is a total traitor.
I'm done with him.
Done.
Yep.
I mean, you know, should we, so he might be, I mean, we know he's a fan of the pod.
He might be listening to this right now.
He's probably finding a Mets pod, right?
Probably.
Should we tell him he's not allowed to listen anymore?
Is he banned from listening?
We need the downloads.
That's true.
Should we tell him to download but not listen?
Yeah, that and also lose our numbers.
I think is the two big ones
i know i know i'm gonna disown him he might have to might have to make sorry you're not family
anymore this is if he's a real it's more important guy yeah he's a real philly guy yeah so um pat
mccarthy wow i guess i'm happy for you, also a massive trader.
So, hope you met some. It's one of those, I'm happy for you, but you're dead to me.
Right.
You know, it's okay.
I'm good for you.
It's over.
Like, don't talk to me.
But good for you.
Congrats on taking the Cohen money or whatever.
It's probably their biggest free agent signing, I guess.
We'll see if he passes.
Certainly their best. That's for sure. We'll see if he passes certainly their best that's for sure we'll see if he passes his physical i know they had some trouble with that
um with the correa thing so um bat mccarthy don't forget us little people that's you know
there was only one podcast that forgot to delete out part a portion of it that shouldn't have gone
on the podcast when talking about affiliates minor leaguer and that was us so i don't even remember that by the
way but i'm sure it happened oh it was so bad it wasn't like that it was just like this should
definitely not be um so uh pat loses number don't listen but still download but definitely don't
listen and uh hope they don't make the playoffs in any time that you are the broadcaster there yeah that fully agree with big time again um don't listen
download don't listen i think that's a pretty pretty strong line in the sand there and uh we
don't curse on this podcast so i'll end it there um scott rollins's hall of famer how's it make you feel yeah i mean
oh god like i'm sorry like i watched his whole career like not every game and all that i know
that but like like he just wasn't a hall of famer he was a really really good baseball player like a
damn good baseball player he wasn't a hall of famer. Like, at no point did I watch Scott Rowland play baseball
and be like, that's a Hall of Famer.
Not once, not one time,
watching the dude play psych Hall of Famer.
Like, can we just have really good baseball players now
and not put them in the Hall of Fame anymore
just because there's no one they want to put in?
They don't want to have a year without putting someone in.
Like, it's just, you know you know like i'm so out on the
hall it's super frustrating because i care so much about it like and that's why i still get angry
about it because like the little kid in me is just like devastated the one who's sitting there
watching the 500 home run club videos and the mel allen twib notes and all the stuff we talk about
the one who's like you know like learning about who all the Hall of Famers are in the history of the game.
He's devastated about how he
feels about the Hall of Fame now, but Aaron
freaking Baines and Scott Rowland and
all these guys are in the Hall of Fame.
Anyway, that's how I feel.
We just,
we don't have to make it so hard.
It should not be this hard. Either you're a hall of famer or
you're not and like i hate the campaigns i i hate having to use war like you know i think that hall
of fame standards are obviously train uh changing like no longer we're gonna see three thousand
three thousand hits 500 homers, stuff like that.
And I think more and more as we go along here,
it's going to be more seven-year peaks,
you know, like the Jaws score in a way,
where it's like seven-year peaks we're going to get in
rather than like, oh, you got to play for this long.
It's just like, why do we have to put people
in the Hall of Fame that obviously are not Hall of Famers?
Like, he's just not.
He's not a Hall of Famer.
He's the definition of Hall of Very Good um you don't have to sell tickets scott roland's
not selling tickets this isn't the takeaway from scott roland like whatever he got in the hall of
fame happy for you but like we it's just it's such a it's such a down like it's such a not
hall of fame thing to do um and the fact that he's in like the players
in the ballot that were like 10 times better aren't in it's just like it's such a joke um
now with that being said chase utley better be in the hall of fame and i will start so i mean
chase ellie's way more a hall of famer than ron like roland like it's like at least chase utley
like played at an mvp
caliber at points in his career you know at least he was the like definitively the best player in
his position like definitively one of the five best players in the sport multiple times in his
career i mean like role was never that stuff like it's just and and you know like where i love stats
i'm a big stack and all like the stack guys have ruined it like it's all this and, and you know, like where I love stats, I'm a big stack. I don't like the stack guys have ruined it.
Like it's all this,
like,
well,
he had this,
like you said,
this war over this period of time.
Oh,
look,
only three players have had these numbers.
It's like,
I don't care,
man.
Like I watched,
I saw he just wasn't a hall of famer.
I'm sorry.
There's no amount of numbers and stats that
you can throw in my face oh yeah maybe i guess he was so agreed scott roland congrats but
no not a hall of famer and yes yes the the stat people have ruined hall of fame arguments just
use your eyes and and use the old school stats sorry they just use them yeah i'm
with you man i'm with you i don't know how we went over an hour for this fight it's like honestly
amazing i love talking to you i think that's really all it is because there really has been
nothing that we took 50 minutes to get josh harrison what did we talk about i don't know
it's been great yeah and look you're you're going to the Superbowl next week.
So we won't do about next week.
So,
well,
it might be too much football for me.
So maybe I should take a break.
Yeah.
Well,
I've got like,
I've got events like five nights next week and it's,
it's,
it's Superbowl week,
buddy.
You gotta,
you gotta do,
we gotta do.
You know what I'm saying?
Yup.
So if we don't talk to you,
I guess I hope the Eagles win.
He does. He does.
He does. You just remember.
Hey, hey, just remember.
If not, baseball
season is right around the corner.
Everything will go back.
The world can go back to being happy.
Don't get too down if they lose to
Mahomes and Andy. It's whatever.
It's basically just another game Philly season's
coming I'll give you a good one
so one more Zoe
thing before I leave this as I'm queuing it up
for when you start talking about baby boy friends all the time
on this pod before we came down here when
we were doing the whole you know during the pod thing
she was asking me for wishes
so she could do the genie thing and one
of the wishes I said because I know she likes to go
like or whatever with her
mouth that was my mouth for those
listening to the audio
she likes to make like you know fart
noise with her mouth and I was like I wish
for Zoe to make a fart noise with her mouth she did
the whole thing second wish and she goes
fart and
I died laughing and it was maybe the funniest thing that ever
happened pretty good bit that's good
it was a good bit
that's way too quick witted for a whole year beyond her years I was very impressed died laughing and it was maybe the funniest thing that ever happened. Pretty good bit. That's good. It was a good bit.
That's way too quick-witted for a film. Beyond her years. I was very impressed.
I'll leave you with that. Very quick-witted.
Alright. We'll be back
after the Eagles win the Super Bowl.
Talking about Philly season.
They're going to win. It's all good.
And then we're going to talk about the Phillies
and then the quest for a World Series
which they're going to win also because Philly is the new Boston.
Let's go.
Jack.
He's hurt himself.
We'll see you next time.