High Hopes: A Phillies Podcast - We Did It

Episode Date: August 7, 2023

James Seltzer and Jack Fritz react to the Phillies beating the Royals twice over the weekend and the Trea Turner standing ovations. Presented by Miller Lite. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Go. It is another edition of the High Hopes Podcast. And Jack Fritz, for the first time since whatever day it was, let's say November 30th or December 2nd or whatever the hell day they signed Trey Turner, that yo was for you, buddy. That yo was for Trey freaking Turner and our guy Jack Fritz. Look at this. Philadelphia. No, it was.

Look, amazing, amazing. Like, a truly amazing moment. Like, and we talked about it. You and I have talked, obviously, a ton. But I think the curtain call, easily the moment of the season to date. I doubt there'll be another moment outside of playoff wins or whatever that are as special as that moment was. And look, he has to play better moving forward.

Obviously, really nice results over the weekend. The home run, the double, you know, five R to play better moving forward. Obviously, really nice results over the weekend, the home run, the double, you know, five RBI this weekend, whatever. But if, let's just live in the if world, Jack. If Trey Turner looks like he did this weekend moving forward, like, we could have saved this guy's career, dude. Like, this could be a real turning point in the history of this franchise. And again, you know, it could also just be like he goes back and it's like, oh, well, fun moment.

But like there's a chance that if this really does, if this got him out of his head, if this kind of let him know he doesn't have to push his heart and try his heart or whatever. Like, man, can you imagine if we're looking back like years from now being like, remember when Philadelphia saved Trey Turner's freaking career, Jack? It also could change the entire course of Philadelphia sports history. Sure could, buddy. I mean, think about it. So let's say it works.

Let's say he starts going off. He turns into Trey Turner. They win a World Series, and we're on the float. We're on the float. Damn right. Better be on the float. But imagine when there's the next struggling athlete. I know.

It could legitimately Be a thing. But I just think it's going to be hard to... I think it's going to be hard to recreate that. And, like, I think what... There was a... The whole discourse this weekend, like, honestly bummed me out. Like, it did. Like, it turned into something that it didn't need to turn into.

I totally agree with you. Like, I think if we just boil it down to its simplest form, is that Trey Turner is our shortstop. He is, yes, we understand he's making $300 million. We were not giving a standing ovation because he deserved it. Great job, buddy. No. What happened this weekend was people acted like human beings like that's what it

was and that's why i was so emotional and that's why like dude it was it was impossible not to well up at the at the reaction on friday no no and him getting a standing ovation and and then him getting hit like it was it was cool like it was fine yeah the single was nice rbi hit cool cool saturday cool and then and then the postgame comments yeah where he talks about like we don't curse on this pod but it was that was bleeping awesome or whatever it's really cool yeah really cool and then the mom quote and the mom quote so obviously one that hits home for a lot of people all of it we all have moms man you know um and and that was like that was cool i didn't anticipate i really didn't anticipate the next night. Like I, I.

Dude, no way. I thought maybe you'd get like a few, a couple hits, a couple singles or whatever. I did. And, and it's not just that Trey Turner had a home run in that spot. It was the most important hit of the weekend. Like they were down six, five late in the game. It was trending towards disaster. It wasn't like a, oh, we're up seven, nothing home run or we're down seven.

Like that was a. That was a massive hit in the season, in the scope of the season, much less Trey in that moment. Just his emotion, rounding the bases and the aggressive hugs he was giving out.

Obviously, the curtain call, man. The extra fist pump at the end. Like, he let us, like, he, you could tell he really appreciated it. He took a billboard out, dude. Like, immediately. Like, there was a billboard this morning. This just happened.

There's a billboard out saying, thank you, Philadelphia. And I think he hit on something else that was important. And we heard it with Bryce's comments. We heard it with Bryson Stott's comments. we could see it when Nick Castellanos was standing on the top of the dugout waving the towel is that like this meant a lot to Trey Turner and I think it could have really helped him get out of his head and move forward but this one left that team every single player on that team was like yo like this is our city these are our fans these guys love us they have our backs I mean Bryce about it, and I thought a really little

part in that quote was he's going on about how cool it was, and he talks about the chills and the, you know, the, I wish I had started my career, that all made it around. But he also, at the end of it, he goes, he goes, just throws in, like, yeah, me and the guys have been talking about it, and then just keeps going on. It's like, they're talking about this. Well, it's impossible not to. Right, but the clubhouse is talking

about us. Us. We always talk about them. That's what we do. That's our pod here, right? That's what we all do. They're talking about us this weekend. They're saying how cool was that that they did that for him and for us. And that's like unique, man. That is unique. And, you know, like, stop

wearing the Trey shirt on Friday. It's like everyone knew that was going to happen. And I like that. So, first off, I'm surprised it was that loud on to happen. And I like that. So, first off, I'm surprised it was that loud on Friday. So, I... I thought it was going to be like a...

I thought it maybe could crescendo into that. So, that's what I expected. I expected people to get up. I expected it to start enough people to get up where people are like, oh, I should get up right now.

And then it would just turn into something. So, I expected to get there. To your point, from the jump, I mean, more people got up, but from the jump, it was loud. Well, and it seemed like they were anticipating it too because the way that TMAC set it up,

it was like back in the day with the Utley would come back or Rollins would come back or Harper or whatever. It was set up to the point where they thought something was going to happen. Thompson talked about it pregame, and they all kind of were like, we think something, but we're not really sure. And they all kind of were like, we think something. We're not really sure. And everyone met the moment.

And the fans were just, it was, that's a special, that's something I think we're going to talk about for a while. We'll never forget it. That was a special moment. And obviously it'll help if Trey goes off and turns this whole thing around. And I think the biggest way you could tell that he was way more relieved was, frankly, what he did in the field. Yeah. And even the at-bats, too. He wasn't

flailing at first pitches every at-bat. He seemed more composed. And his second at-bat on Friday. I think he was trying to hit the ball. But as the weekend went on, it looked like he was in solid at-bats, too. Yeah, but the defense. He's sliding, he's throwing, and he makes the final out on Saturday it looked like he was in solid bats, too. Yeah, but the defense. I mean, the defense, he's sliding, he's throwing, and he makes the final out on Saturday, which I thought was fitting.

Of course. So, you know, I just felt good for him. Like, I just, overall, whether you're anti-ovation, whatever, I think that people all came around. Some. It was most. But it was just, it was a nice human moment. And it was nice to be able to take the salary out of it and like we know he's gonna be able to feed his family and

and we don't they don't ever have to worry about money and i understand you struggle like and you have to pay for tickets you're harder than money but like it was a it was just a good honest human like support one another moment. And that's what makes, that's why I love this place. Like, I just, I think it's the coolest when we do stuff like that. And, yeah, you mentioned the teammates. I think how they played yesterday and how the stars specifically played. Castie Baum, Harper, so close, that one on the wall.

And then the big double, two of them, the one on the wall. And then the big double, two of them, the double down the right. Schwarber. Schwarber, the big bomb in that spot. I think it also relieved all those guys.

And I think that it almost, we already have a love affair with this team because of the World Series run, but I think it's just going to bring us even closer. And there was a lot of talk

pre-World Series run, like, I don't feel like our guys, you know, they're all mercenaries. The World Series run and this weekend, I think, just brings us that much closer. Like, the Eagles, everyone loves. We're very close.

But there's just something about this Phillies team and the fan base that they kind of feed off one another. Dude, I'm so with you. And I think it intensified this weekend. Look, I said it after the run, during the run, and I'll say it forever until something beats it. I've never been a part of a communal thing like the playoffs, and particularly the Harper-Homer game. Well, what about the Fish concert?

Well, that's the next closest thing. Fish is the only thing I compare it to. The only thing I've ever felt like. You're right there. But seriously, I've never been a part of something that felt like this communal group joy and experience like that, where it was so magical and so loud and so special. And it did matter. Like the players talked about how it mattered and all that.

And I'm so with you, Jack. I think it brought us and these guys together. And this weekend was like another step forward in that, in this relationship between team and fans. And you don't think about like again to the point i made before like we talk about these guys all the time right you know we talk about bryce harper we say his name a million times all this stuff like but there is a both ways with it it's communal like they talk about us they think about us being there we can impact situations we can impact games and we can have real moments like we did this weekend

and your point at the beginning about like i don't like look i get the you know we're a tough town and all that like i'm all for that you know me i hate dallas dallas sucks all that kind of crap whatever i'm all in on it like i am i i love the philly thing i love i love booing if someone deserves to be booed i'll do it but like i i just don't understand how anyone could have been against this this weekend like trey turner's gonna be here for the next 10 plus years. Like, they signed him. Like, I just, what's the, what are we doing here?

Do we want to be the fan base that we always joke about? Like, oh, national media are going to blame Philly forever. Do we want that? Like, is that what we want to be viewed as? Like, we had a chance this weekend to show like, hey, this is who we are and this is what we can do. And it was beautiful. Like, it was a beautiful thing. Well, and that's why I think,

I just think people miss the point of it all. I think there's a lot of people that just couldn't understand, like, they're like, oh, participation trophy, and I thought we were a tough fan base, and this guy's been a disappointment. And what I kept going back to is, I don't know how you watched that interview, that post-game interview on Wednesday after the Marlins lost,

and just didn't feel for the guy. And then when you hear he was at the batting cage till midnight and the whole thing. Exactly. It was really the time to do it. It wasn't – if that interview – It was that Saturday game against the Marlins that made it all happen. You're absolutely right.

That's why. Wednesday. Or Wednesday. Excuse me. The Wednesday game against the –ins that made it all happen. You're absolutely right. That's why. Wednesday. Or Wednesday, excuse me. The Wednesday game against the Martins. The game where he had the error that he said, I'm the reason we lost. That was the low moment. And I don't think that, like, it's hard to recreate having that and then turn into, like,

it was a special time for that because of seeing a guy openly look like he's struggling to keep it together because he cares. And, like, all we ask for is you care, right? Yeah, just try. Give us everything you got, man. Right. And I just, it was a really, really special weekend. I don't think it was, like, it wasn't coddling.

I love being a tough fan base is a point of pride for me. And not just that, it's our default. Like, that is what, we do that no matter what. But I think that being able to also have the side of of of being there for someone who is clearly going through something which trey was that's what's that's why i think it happened i think that's why the movement happened i think that that's why people jumped on board with it and i you know i'd say 75 of the city liked it and 25 vocally did not like it um but but i don't know how after what happened saturday and seeing his reaction yeah exactly i think it got up to maybe 90 and still vocally, did not like it. But I don't know how, after what happened Saturday

and seeing his reaction, I think it got up to maybe 90%, and there's still people holding out like, oh, it's stupid, whatever, yada, yada, yada, it's the Royals. You know, I think if you're a true Phillies fan, you're a true Philadelphian, this weekend was one of those moments we're going to talk about for a while. I'm so with you. And look, I think I've probably said this to you before,

but I'm a big, and coaches say this, and I love it when coaches talk this way and stuff, but the idea of like not everyone responds to the same things. Like you and I are similar. Like if you yell at me, and I think you're the same way, if you yell at me, like you're not getting the best out of me. Like I'm sorry. Like I'm going to turtle up more.

Like I'm going to be annoyed. I'm going to be upset. If you tell me I'm great and you appreciate what I'm doing, I'm going to work that much harder for you. Like I'm an attaboy guy. Like I think you're more of an attaboy guy than a get yelled at guy too. There are some people who need to get yelled at, right? There's some people who do need tough love.

Like every person's different. Every person responds when they are going through problems or adversity, whatever in different ways. And like this whole, like whole like oh just boo them thing and again we pay our hard-earned money i am a supporter of the boo i have booed i will not rip people for booing if they think it's warranted but like the ultimate goal is we're doing it to get them to play better right like we want trey turner to be better and if this isn't working like why not try something different why not try something that ultimately the end goal,

whether it's because you're booing or you're cheering in those situations, is to ultimately help the player move forward and be better, right? It's productive. Well, and that's why I think the mom quote struck me probably the most of the weekend was because obviously he's talking. He's frustrated. Yeah, no doubt. He's like down in the dumps about it.

Jack, he's never struggled like this in his life. Think about it. He's talked about it a lot this week. Because it's true. Think about it. I mean, he's never struggled in the dumps about it. Jack, he's never struggled like this in his life. Think about it. He's talked about it a lot this week. Because it's true. Think about it. I mean, he's never struggled in the majors. He obviously, to get to the majors, was the best on every team he ever played on in his life.

Like, he's never gone through anything like this before. Yeah, and knowing how he cares, you know, I think that's why it was such a, his family, I think uh you know liked it as much as they did but special weekend and you mentioned it earlier watching the development of nick cassianos into like like yeah like our guy guy like dude my feet again the curtain call was the moment of the season but my second favorite just individual moment of the whole weekend was cassie with the towel, but my second favorite individual moment of the whole weekend

was Cassie with the towel. If I just pick an image, it's that. And he's turning into, I feel like Cassianos is the pick you up when you're down guy. You know what I mean? I'm sure they all are, but it feels like he's very in on it. It's like a put your arm around you guy. He's very in on, I'm going to get you through this.

I went through it last year. I don't think Cassianos needed what happened this weekend last year. Like, I think Castellanos was. I think he's built differently, man. He's different. Every human being is different. And I don't think like, I don't think Castellanos needed that last year. I agree.

You know, but I just, I've really, really enjoyed Castellanos and, you know, being at the top step. And like, I just, I liked, I liked how into it they were. really, really enjoyed Castellanos and being at the top step. I liked how into it they were. If you thought it was corny, if you thought it was phony, the guys didn't. Exactly, right? They clearly loved it.

Ultimately, that's all that matters. The players liked it. And the players clearly did. They talked about it all weekend. They were on top step. They're all into it. When he goes out did. I mean, they talked about it all weekend. They were on top step. I mean, they're all into it. Like, when he goes out for the curtain call, first off, Thompson's a little, like, I like Rob Thompson. Me too. But, like, Stotts right next to him, like, slamming the top of the thing.

Like, they were in it for him. They were in it for the whole moment. And, listen, that's what makes sports sports. Dude, you're right. And, you know, I always joke about the Luke Williams thing, but that's why I love that moment. It was a beautiful moment. This passes the Luke Williams moment. Wow.

But to your point, it was like a beautiful moment in sports. And again, this communal experience where fans and players are sharing something and a part of something together. And to your point, that's such a great point, man.

Like, if you come in being like, oh, it's phony, it's dumb or whatever, like, the players didn't think so. Like, those guys a lot i mean these quotes the bryson stock quotes about you know the national media these people don't get it like how much like how amazing i wouldn't want to play anywhere else like all these guys harper again the chills and i wish i started my career here like for those guys and and and i believe it i mean you we watch a lot of baseball now to be fair this year shout out, baseball has been selling out games. It's really exciting.

People are showing up for baseball games, which as people who just want everyone to love baseball, it's a beautiful thing. It's going to be another increase in yesterday, right? Yeah. Saturday, I believe, was the biggest day of the year. I had a tweet. John Heyman put out a tweet.

Here it is. Saturday marked our third time in two decades that each of the 15 MLB games drew more than 30,000 fans. Yeah. Like first time in third time in two decades. So like that, that is, that is thrilling stuff.

That's really exciting. But even still, like I've watched a lot of baseball. We have the package. There's a lot of empty games. There's a lot of, you know, games where the fans are not as into it and stuff. And if you're players, if you're Castellanos, you played in Detroit and Cincinnati and you go to those places and you got the Cubs at that moment there. But like, you know, I mean, like, it's not the same. Like, it is not the same experience. And if you're those guys, like, why wouldn't you want to play in front of this, this real crowd that cares and is invested? It's the whole point of what you do, you know?

So it's awesome, man. And it's awesome, like, for Philly fans. We know. We're here. We talk about it. But, like, every time we get the opportunity, because we always do the, oh, no one likes us, we don't care. We do care.

We always care. We really, truly do. It's like, good. Like, show this to the freaking world. Show the Alec Boe moment last year to the world. Like, let everyone know. Show the playoffs to the world. Like, it everyone know. Show the playoffs to the world. Like, it's turning, man.

Like, it's turning. The Philly fan thing is turning a corner, buddy. I think it's going from nasty to passionate. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great way to phrase it. The big turnaround. And part of that's because the vet's gone.

And we've won some championships. Like, I mean, we did go from 83 to 2008 with nothing besides 93. You don't gotta tell me, buddy. I was there for it. Yeah. It was cool. It was really cool.

Thank God they won, 2-3. Dude, well, that's the thing. Especially that first night they don't win and Nola will get to him in a sec. Turning around, especially though, just in general, as far as the 2-3 goes, everyone else lost this weekend. The Marlins have lost six straight, the Diamondbacks five or six straight, the Reds six straight. The Diamondbacks were 40-25, and they're 14 games under.500 since that.

The Giants lost two out of three. The A's, like... That's embarrassing. That is embarrassing, exactly. I mean, the Phillies, all of a sudden, this is the first time all year that we have done the podcast. They have a three-game lead on a playoff spot. Like, it's the Trey Turner stuff this weekend was huge, but this team is playing good baseball

for the most part. Well, honestly, the most important thing that happened this weekend is that, and I hope you're ready for it. I hope the city's ready for it. Uh-oh. This Price Harper run is going to be insane. Dude, I agree with you. It's the biggest takeaway.

He's crushing the ball. He's smoking the ball. He's smoking the ball. Like, just absolutely smoking the ball. Should have had a couple homers yesterday. I mean, that one literally jumped over the center field fence to catch it. I mean, what do you want to do there? That was a home run to center field. He, like, just all

weekend long looking locked in, and I think we mentioned it after the Marlins game, the Castellanos home run game. Pulled that ball early. I think that was the moment of like, I can rip it. And he did it again this weekend, that double down the line. 111 miles an hour.

Smoked that ball. Off the bat. So, I mean, listen, Turner was great. The crowd was great. But Bryce Harper is looking like Bryce Harper. Yeah, I'm with you, dude. It was my biggest baseball takeaway from the weekend was the ball is flying off his bat. And we had Dombrowski on the morning show last week.

And Joe asked him about, like, the power. Should we just not expect it to be the same this year? And he's like, listen. He's like, I expect it. And the reason is Bryce usually does his batting practice indoors or wherever. He's like, he's been doing it outdoors recently. We've been watching him. He's like, he's hitting balls further than everyone.

Like in all the back practice, he's the guy hitting the balls where no one else can hit them. Like the power's there. It's in there. And I was like, well, that's cool to hear because we had talked. I mean, I thought you had really good information when we started talking about this, about Shohei and about these guys who've had Tommy John surgery and a drastic decrease in their power.

And obviously we've seen that. Man, like if Harper starts being full Bryce Harper, they're 10 games over.500 right now and he hasn't been. Yeah, I know. Well, and the thing is, like, I think if Bryce gets going, it almost just eases everyone. I mean, that's what happens. We talk about that all the time.

It doesn't happen in the postseason. Yeah, he's the metronome. He's the guy they all come off of. He hit the home run against the Cardinals. Consistency. And then after that point, I believe he's been like 450 before the World Series. Yeah, he was. Just like a stupid run.

Literally. By Bryce. And yeah, I think he is definitely well on his way back. Alec Boehm in the two hole. It's been like the big, I'm just so happy. Nailed one this time. Finally. By the way, there are a couple guys who are not qualified. I think

Bellinger's not qualified. Right now, Bryson Stott and Alec Palmer are 4-5 in the National League in batting average. We have two guys in the top five in batting average. It's the Royals, so you don't want to go overboard with the offense. Are they back? We would never go overboard. No, we don't do that.

But the fact that they haven't even, in my opinion, sniffed how good they could be. I agree with that. And they're 10 games over.500, three games up in a playoff spot. Like I said, I think they're the third best team in the NL. And I feel pretty confident about that. We have the Dodgers second? Dodgers second. Yeah, I think that's fair.

And then obviously the Braves are first. And I think talent-wise, this Dodgers team, I think they the Dodgers second? Dodgers second. Yeah, I think that's fair. And then obviously the Braves are first. And I think talent-wise, this Dodgers team, I think they're more talented than this Dodgers team, but the Dodgers have played better. Yeah. The only thing holding me back from like, so last year, I think I felt confident in the team eventually getting in and eventually figuring it out

because of the 1-2 in the rotation. And the problem with this year's team, and I think the offense is slowly turning a corner. It's the Royals. It's hard to tell. But the Nationals are coming in. They play, I think, 30 of their last 48 at home or 49. Yeah, they got a ton of home games left.

The thing is, is they have a one-wheeler, and then you have no idea what you're getting two, three, four, five, six. You know what I mean? Like, I know because now they're going six, man. If Nola was just pitching better, I think we could start selling, like, World Series. Here comes a run. And he's just not doing it.

He's just not doing it. And, yes, Tyrone Walker has 13 wins. Guy just guts it out, man. And the first inning thing is weird. There have been guys like that. I remember Tom Glavin was a big sucks in the first inning and then is awesome after it guy. Well, Tyrone Walker is like most aces. You gotta get to him early.

That's right. Yeah, that's a good point. You gotta get to him early. It is a good bit coming out throwing 86. It's unbelievable. It's like three times in a row or whatever. I know. So, but it's like everyone freaks out the first inning and then you wake up in the seventh. He just settles in and he throws seven for you and he gets a win every freaking time. Yeah, it's... We have a 20

game winner this year in Philly. Like, what? Pretty good bit. Go on. It's a good bit. But, you know, Tom Walker, fine. But he's not a two. Ranger, just not right now. Hit or miss. Hit or miss. Chris Sanchez, I don't think he's that bad. I thought he was fine.

And the game kind of got away from him in spots. That was a weird game, too. So I'm not raising a red flag on Chris Sanchez. I thought it was just a weird game. But yeah, it's just like you have Zach Wheeler who is back to being Zach Wheeler and then a bunch of like I have no idea what I'm going to get now could they get hot in the postseason

and because their talent there I mean all those guys you mentioned and Lorenzo was really good in his first start but you know we're not counting on that but we know what Nola can be we know like Tywon and Ranger especially Ranger in big spots like it is possible those guys out and go out and deal in the playoffs. It's certainly possible.

But I think, and you know me, like, no one's quicker to go all in and this is a run. Yes. The Nola thing is a thing holding me back from that. Well, let's get into, I mean, Friday, again, especially with the Trey Turner night, like, I guess it was predictable. He is the most frustratingly predictable, maybe, really, of all time. It's just, oh, a lot of people watching.

Oh, Trey Turner, big night. Oh, yep. Oh, they got a lead. Yep. 2-0, 4-2, and then a loss. It was 2-0, and then he almost gives it up in that first inning, then gets out of it, and then, of course, the next inning comes back. Like, all right.

I mean, I know you don't have the answers because no one does, but what do you do? Like, I mean, if I'm the Phillies right now, like, screw my six-man rotation. Like, I'm sitting no one down for a month. Like, they did three weeks like they did with Wheeler last year. Like, I just, I don't know what other option they have right now. You know, they gave him five days rest.

That didn't work great. How do you just keep saying, all right, Aaron, go out and keep doing this? At least maybe if you get him some time off, then maybe he's good for the playoffs. I have no idea. Yeah, I know. I know. I think you've got to keep pitching him, hope he figures it out.

Yeah, just pitch through it, Aaron. Yeah, I know you struggled against the Royals and Pirates too. Juggernauts. But I just, I know he has value. I know what he brings to the table. It's just like, I'm so, I'm pretty over watching him. Dude, I hate it. I hate watching him.

I'm just over it. I hate watching him. I hate watching him. Like I, it, it, he is, he is super frustrating to watch. Like the most frustrating. Yeah. Well, it's just like. Especially because we know what's in there. We've seen watch. Like, the most frustrating. Yeah, well, it's just like... Especially because we know what's in there. We've seen it.

I know. It does... He's back at throwing 96 again. You know what's a real bummer is at the beginning of the year, when we first start opening day, we might even say that game, but certainly after the first couple starts, we're like, uh-oh.

I hope this isn't 09 Hamels. And now it's freaking August, and it's like, oh, it's 09 Hamels. Except maybe worse. Yeah. I mean, his ERA is what? Four and a half or something. Over four and a half, I hope this isn't 09 Hamels. And now it's freaking August, and it's like, oh, it's 09 Hamels, except maybe worse. Yeah. I mean, he's already, what, four and a half or something. Over four and a half, I think. I think it was 4-4-3 going into that last start.

So, you know, yeah, like over four and a half. Yeah. I mean, sure, if you want to try sitting him, I just. What else, though? Like, is he throwing him out? But he's like, he is throwing, he's throwing 95 still. I mean, it's just command. Like, it's just, I have no answers anymore.

He is a conundrum of all conundrums here. And we can't keep doing the pitch clock thing. And every time he has a good start, it's like, oh, he figured it out. It's just not his year. It's not Aaron Noel's year. He did this in 21. So how about this? Let's say they don't send him. Let's not Aaron Nola's year. He did this in 21. So how about this?

Let's say they don't sit him. Let's say Aaron Nola just continues to be Aaron Nola. Maybe he has a couple good starts in here, and then the rest are, you know, six innings, four runs, one of these bad ones, whatever. Not what will the Phillies do, because I think we know what they're going to do. They're going to pitch Aaron Nola in the playoffs. Would you? The season continues on the exact trajectory that he's been on.

The season ends. The Phillies make the playoffs. God. Is Aaron Nola in your playoff rotation? Yes. Wow, really? He's still in there. Wow.

He's still in there. I don't know if I'd do it, man. It might cost him a World Series like Hamels did in 2009. But I just, I'm just going to keep riding him. I'm going to keep riding him. Just because the upside is so much better than. Like who am I putting in that situation besides him? Like Lorenzen. Yeah, Walker, Ranger, Lorenzen.

They're struggling right now, but let's put it this way. Both struggling right now. I will give Ranger the ball in a big game before I'll give it to Nola 100 times out of 100 right now. Well, sure. That's fine. But that's what we're discussing. I know. In 0-9, they went out and got Pedro.

They had to get reinforcements for a bad Hamels. I'm just going to keep riding him, and I'm going to keep trusting him and hope that at some point he figures it out. He's super frustrating, but maybe we can give him a nice standing out. Oh, yeah, that's great. It's funny, of course. Why are you giving Noah one? I know, I know.

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Let's start with the bad. We already talked, Nola, the Marsh injury. Yeah. Honestly, knee contusion was great news considering when it first happened. Even though it didn't look like it was one of those non-contact type injuries type things, it still had that feel of like, oh, God, he can't put weight on it. Did he just tear his ACL? How concerned are you about them being without Marsh

for potentially three weeks, a month, who knows how long it lingers? Yeah, not great. Definitely not great because I like having Brandon Marsh out there and the defense of Rojas in center and Marsh in left. We'll see if, I mean, he's probably going to be back before Pache, but who knows. But, listen, I'm still not sold on the hit tool. We'll see.

But being able to watch Johan Rojas every day, it's been a fun experience. And just like the way he just glides back, and I have no anxiety that he's just going to do his thing. Totally. And the reads he gets on fly balls are insane. I have no anxiety that he's just going to do his thing. And the reads he gets on fly balls are insane. Between him and Pache, it's like these guys are out of control with how good they are defensively.

We talked all last year about how great it was to see Marsh here and the reads he would get on balls compared to what we had been watching. And both Pache and Rojas are better. And there's a reason that Marsh moves to left or right field when those guys are healthy and playing center field, you know? Totally. So, and it seems like every – it just seems like Rojas, something good happens every time he's out there.

Like, the bunt – I agree with you. It feels like he's had, like, a lot of big RBI hits and stuff like that, like, for the time he's been here. It wasn't even a good bunt on Saturday. This guy fell down, but, like – I could – but do you know what? Rojas fell down and still beat it out that was pretty impressive too so like the march injuries obviously not great but like i'm i just want to see what johan rojas can do i

feel like good things happen when he's on the field well and look hopefully to the point you made earlier in the pod now is the time where this weekend, not just got Trey going, but Bryce's power, Castellanos, seven game hitting streak, had that tank shot. Schwarber with the big homer. Thank God the July Castellanos is not. Right, buddy.

The rest of the season. Right. Well, he's been very, it's weird. If you look, he's been great in even months and bad in odd months this year. I saw someone tweet that.

So yeah, weird. He had a bad May, but a great June, bad July, good April. Anyway, file that away. So, you bad May, but a great June, bad July, good April. Anyway, file that away. So, you know, for what it's worth, October and even month, just saying. Good.

But, yeah, like if these guys get going, it can help. Because, I mean, Marsh, like we just said, and it hurts when you have both Marsh and Rojas out there defensively to not have Marsh. But in terms of center field defense, they are not losing anything with Rojas out there every day. It's more the fact that, like, you know, know Marsh has been OPS wise their best hitter all year and certainly one of their more productive guys consistently so also like it's those other guys if those other guys step up

while Marsh is out then it's like okay no problem very it's been like pretty good in RBI situations I feel like I feel there's been a couple times last week where it's two outs they have a chance to of course blow it by not scoring a run with Ron's scoring position which is what they are known for at this point. And it feels like Marsh gets a hit. I agree with you. Yeah, I think other than Boehm, who clearly gets the most hits in those situations, I would say Marsh might be like the second one that comes to my mind in terms of those specific type of situations.

Yeah, so, yeah, I think that they can almost mask it as long as, I mean, pretty much, it's funny, all we were asking for Marsh at the beginning of the year was like, just go play good defense. Great defense. And anything from the back we'll take. Also, Rojas has to lead the league in fly balls that look like home runs off the bat. Oh, I know. That end up not being home runs. Not even close, usually.

It's like a short left field. The one over the weekend was smoked. I thought that was going to go out. I was surprised it didn't go out. But I feel like there's been three where it's like, oh, there it is, first homer. It's like they all just die. They all just run out of steam. Yeah, it does seem like it does sound.

He's perpetually hitting into a wind gust. Well, yeah, but yeah, you're right. It feels that way because it feels like he hits the ball hard, but then the ball doesn't seem to go as hard as it felt like he hit it. I know. Unless it's on the ground, but when he tries to lift it, it's almost like there's a 40-mile-an-hour wind blowing in. I will say, too, I do think he's one of those guys

that seems like he brings an energy. Yeah. All the guys talk about how funny it is to be around and all that stuff. I think that helps. Stott just keeps freaking. The best. and all that stuff, I think that helps. Stott just keeps freaking... The best.

Dude, like, seriously, where would this team be without Bryson Stott? I mean, I guess probably the MVP of the team right on August 7th if we had to choose one, if you had to pick an MVP of the team this year. Yeah, I guess Cassianos in July. Yeah, I mean, Cassianos was one of the names you would think. I mean, Harper even without the time is...

But I think it's probably Bryson Stahat. I mean, think about the defense. That play, was it yesterday or two years ago? I think it was yesterday. The diving. Oh, the dive, yeah. Oh, I mean, he is. I mean, this guy, dude.

He's batting.303. He's a 25-year-old kid in his second year in the major leagues. And the opposite field home run. Dude, the first of his career, which was surprising because of how well he hits the ball over the field. Joe Giglio put out a tweet with, through their age 25 seasons, now Utley was a part-time player at the time, so it's like not apples to apples, but still like,

you know, you put out the numbers and Bryson Stott right now has been a better player at the age of 25 than Utley was. And I'm not, you know, there and I don't think I'll ever have the power Utley did and stuff I'm not there, and I don't think I'll ever have the power Utley did and stuff, but I mean, Bryson Stott's going to be a really good player for a really long time,

man. I mean, I have full faith in this guy. And he keeps raising his ceiling. Totally! He's saying 3-0-3! Yeah, and who knows as the power continues to develop. He's like, you know, the big thing that ailed him last year was like 95 plus up. He's got no problem with that.

Now he's ripping into the corner and whatnot. So he is, he'll never be like, you know, a super superstar. But like, he's turned into a star on this town. But he could win a batting title. Like, I mean, assuming Luis Urias gets traded out of the National League at some point. For sure. He's going to win the next eight. Like, he could though.

Like, he has that ability with the bat and the hit tool he is just again i just love him like i just i love he again he's been competitive it's the the i think the highest uh mark you could label on a baseball player he's a baseball he's a ball player i know i love it he's just a ball player that's the best like thing you could say about a player i I will say, too, I think that he is the person this season who has, in a positive way, changed Phillies fans' opinion of him the most. People liked him, and people were like, oh, he's a nice young player. I think this season

basically all Phillies fans are like, oh, wow, this guy is a massive part of our future. Of course. And then plays a gold glove caliber second base. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. They might have a 4-8-25 in the next seven years. Seven years? A 300-ish hitter that plays gold glove caliber second base.

Think about that, dude. Think about that. But the Phillies drafted. So shout out to them. They didn't have to sign them. Yeah, like we actually drafted. And the 14th pick, like Bo was the third pick in the draft. And granted, you know, in baseball, it doesn't mean you're going to hit.

We all know. That class ended up being nuts, by the way. Do you know? The Boehm class? Yeah. No, no. It's Rutschman. It's Bobby Witt.

It's Corbin Carroll. Oh, my God. Rutschman and Witt were the first two picks? Yeah, yeah. Wow. And Corbin Carroll, too? He was after Stott. Wow.

Yeah, I know he was after Boehm, obviously. No, there's more, too, I think. Wow. Wait, the Stott class or the Boehm class? The Stock class. Wow. Yeah, Corbin Carroll's good. Hold on.

The Stock class, real quick. Rutchman, Witt, Andrew Vaughn, J.J. Blede, Riley Green, C.J. Abrams, Lodolo, Josh Jung. This is nuts. Like, all these guys are having great, or at least a lot of them, having really good seasons. Langoliers, Manoa. Especially for all these guys to be up and contributing

like this already. Stott, Carroll, George Kirby. Wow, dude. Yeah, that's all the first round. This is an insane first round. This is an insane first round. Wow, dude. That is like, wow, that's pretty awesome. I mean, Rushman and Carroll, you could argue like

Well, with, I mean. Well, with two, all three, you could argue like, I mean, I'm saying, like, I mean, Rushman and Carroll, you could argue, like... Well, Witts, I mean... Well, Witts, too. All three, you could argue. I mean, I'm saying, like, I mean, Corwin Carroll has freaking 20 homers and 35 stolen bases as a rookie. Yeah. And we're two-thirds of the way through the season. Well, and Witts, the first player in baseball history to have 20 and 30.

Yeah. First two years. And Rushman, they haven't been swept since he's... And Rushman's just a winner. Like, that guy's... By the way, Bobby Witt, I've never seen a play... So, when i was watching aiden miller all the all the draft stuff and whatever i never could put a finger on his finish

like how he finishes his swing oh it's probably looks like bobby well i'll take it yeah believe yeah believe me i think you'd all be pretty all right with that all right everybody john wheeler shout out john wheeler we love you buddy he dm me and asked me a question he said would you try and sign stop right now long-term Well, I mentioned that after opening day. You mentioned it early in the season. Now we've got even more evidence. So I just don't know if they want to add another $20 million thing to their payroll. You know what I mean?

If they don't have to. So it's like the value of it isn't worth, the few million you save by doing it now isn't worth the flexibility that you have if you keep them cheap for a little while. It makes sense. Yeah, and they need the flexibility. They definitely do. And look, they have a while with him. He's got, what, like five years of team control. That's the difference between this and the Braves. The Braves don't have big contracts on the books. Well, again, the Braves put

guns to the guy's head and force them to sign. It's a different... We don't do that here. Yeah. Right. Unbelievable. All right. What else did I have? I think that's all I got until we get to final thoughts and all that good stuff. All right. Take that!

All right. Rob Thompson has an addiction, James. Do you want to know what it is? Is it righty-lefty? No. Okay. No. It is putting Matt Strom out there for two innings.

I know. It's like every time. The second inning is never as good. It feels like it never works out. Especially like you're trying to save his innings, and everyone's like, ah, let's go to it. Yeah, I need Jose Alvarado back. 100%.

I still think not getting a reliever at the deadline is going to end up being a bigger deal than not getting a bat. I just think they need one more. The Kimbrel tip. Oh, yeah, I mean, you feel it. Look, and I like Jeff Hoffman and Marte, but, like, do we want those guys in the eighth inning of a tie playoff game? Because that's the way this team has been playing these things.

Hoffman I trust definitely more than Marte. I do too. I like both. But, again, this is like, and, again, both these guys, Hoffman, the innings are a thing with this team. I mean, Kimbrell's going to set a career high if he stays on his pace. Strom is like way. Wait, hold on.

Kimbrell's setting a career high this year? He was on his way. I don't know if he still is, but maybe not quite anymore, but he was on a high pace. He was at like 45 or 46 innings, 47 innings, something like that. I mean, Strom obviously has already pitched more than he had the last two years combined. Lorenzen?

Lorenzen, yeah. Another good point, going from reliever to starter. It's something they're going to have to manage. Yeah, and they do have some depth in Belotti and Brock and they could come up. The problem is that they're still throwing a triple ace. It's not like they're not. They're just sitting there with ice on their arms. But, yeah,

getting another arm back there would have eased a lot of my tensions. Now, the one thing, I just want to know if you're ready for it. Griff's coming. Oh, you think it's happening? I think I— Because this was last year.

It's similar timing, actually. You talked about this. You said, like, looking at guys for a playoff run, who do we have in the system who can come up and give us two innings at a time or whatever, and you were just saying Griff's not the craziest idea. Well, especially because Griff, the last month, has heated up. Yeah, he's been awesome. He's not walking people. So when they were dying for a fifth starter, I think Griff, the last month, has heated up. Yeah, he's been awesome. He's not walking people.

So when they were dying for a fifth starter, I think he felt the pressure because Andrew Abbott came up and turned into this nasty rookie for the Reds. And he's like, well, now I've got to go up and make the big leagues right now. And it felt like every time watching him, he was trying to make the big league. And then he calmed down and got back to being the Griff McGarry we've seen. I just think that if you're going six-man and you don't have as many guys in the bullpen,

like you're down an arm in the bullpen, having a guy that can go multiple innings like Griff can would provide a lot of value. So he's in AAA now. I just think that that's the next logical progression for him. Makes sense. I know they lost the game, but there was like

such cool baseball stuff going on with Kimbrel tipping pitches and like. Oh, I know. Dude, great point because we didn't talk about that.

Like him, I've never seen that. I've never seen someone take an intentional balk to get the guy off second base. I've never seen him in my life watching baseball. Yes.

And that was strictly because he didn't want them to steal the signs. Like I'm saying, I've never seen that before. I wasn't stealing. I was, it's what he does. Or see the tip, you know what want them to steal the signs. Like I'm saying, I've never seen that before. I wasn't stealing. It's what he does. Or see the tip,

you know what I mean, not the signs, excuse me. With his glove and that was just, I know they lost. It was nerdy baseball. That was cool baseball stuff.

That was a cool bit because all of a sudden he comes out and I'm looking at him and he's like, looks at the umpire and he just drops the ball. That was unbelievable.

What the world is going on here? It's cool that he thought to do it. I mean, you know. Well, they lost, but yes. Wait, what's happening right now? What the world is going on here? It's cool that he thought to do it. I mean, you know. Well, they lost, but yes. No, I know. I'm just saying, like, that's a good thought. Well, maybe don't tip pitches in the nuance.

Yeah, well, that would be the best way to go about it. Yes, or, you know, yeah, good thought. Well, because immediately the camera pans over and Uli Gurriel is like, here's what he's doing with his hand. And it's like, well, don't do that. Don't do that. Yes.

Been around way too long to be doing that. Yes, we don't need that as we're trying to win a World Series. I thought the team reactions to Marsh on the field, I thought was like a special moment too. Yeah. You could feel it. Like Schwarber helping him and holding him up almost in a way. I was like, ah.

Well, it made me think it was way worse. Like I'm actually really happy that that was part of the reason, the bone contusion, I was like, great. You know, because I was, when it was happening, I said to Emily, I was watching with her, and I was like, I always, and I think it's way more true in football, but like you can kind of tell a bad injury is by the way the players on the field react to it.

Like in football, when those guys like turn, and they're like, get over here, get over here, you're like, oh, this is a bad one. Like you know it's a bad one, you know? Whereas I think the way the players on the field react to it. Like in football, when those guys like turn and they're like, get over here, get over here. You're like, oh, this is a bad one. Like, you know, it's a bad one. You know, whereas I think the way the players reacted, like it was like, they were shell shocked. Like they were like, oh God, I hope he's okay. And came over and all that.

So I'm happy it wasn't worse. Close team. Yeah, they care about each other. A close ball club, which is important. There is nothing funnier to me and then and i and i love t-mac there is nothing funnier to me than when when the official scorer screws up what they think is the wrong scoring decision and it turns into like a 10 minute like this is this is hurting the sport and my thing is like i just like whatever i don't care how they score it.

They get so worked up about the scoring decisions. And I just, I appreciate the passion for making sure that the scorebook is correct. It's just, I don't care. I care more than you. I get their point. Like, it is getting ridiculous. It does. And I heard

someone, I can't remember who I heard say it, but someone said that they think that baseball is actually pushing it to try and get hits up and average up and numbers up and all that, which is a, right? Like interesting thought. But like, it has felt like this year and even last year, but the last couple of years, it's like agreed, like that Trey Turner play in Miami. Like, come on, man. Like, that's not a hit.

Josh Bell doesn't get a hit there. Like, seriously, like seriously. And ultimately, like, it doesn't get a hit there like seriously like seriously and ultimately like it doesn't why does it matter it doesn't well it does if you play fantasy baseball

it certainly does right you could have your pitcher starting error they give him a hit you get like six earned runs against you could have been none like come on

it can matter Jack alright buddy come on it's just play fantasy baseball it's just whatever I love it I love the passion for the scoring decisions it's just. Play fantasy baseball. It's just whatever. I love it.

I love the passion for the scoring decisions. It's just like, it turns into, like, I never, it's so rare you hear T-Mac go like old guy. Like get fired up, yeah. But like old guy yelling at the cloud. He gets so mad about the scoring decisions. Tom, I'm with you, buddy. Don't let Jack bring you down here. I'm not bringing him down. I love T-Mac.

Keep it coming, pal. I just think it's funny. Fair to say that yesterday's game against the Royals on July, no, August 4th. Wow. Hey, now. No, it's not even August 4th. No, it was August 6th yesterday. Today's the 7th.

Yes. Nailed it. That it had the same exact feel as game four of the NLCS. So. They went down 3-0. They came right back to make it 3-3. Oh, yeah. They went down 4-3. Oh back to make it three three they go down four three it was like the it played out the exact same way of the lcs you threw me off because i was

thinking world series i was like the no hitter no no gotcha gotcha yeah it does that's a great it was like the exact same also also why does it that the cbp wall only hurts our players like rowan marsh freaking chas mccormick was totally fine after that one. Like, what the hell? So you're calling for the- Yeah, there's something going on here. Take it out on someone else. Yeah.

Oh, other thing. Yes, I'm calling for other players to get hurt. Exactly right. That's good. Official statement from James Seltzer. Yes. Shame on the Royals for not letting Granke bat. I am so bummed.

I was so excited for it. And, like, just let the guy hit. Come on. You're 35 and whatever. Yes. You are screwed no matter what, all right? It was a fun moment for all of us. National League Park, get to see a pitcher hit again.

I know. Bring back the good old days of pitchers hitting. I feel bad for Granke. He's just so not good anymore at all. Yeah. It was like Schwarber hitting that 700 feet was the most predictable home run of the year. You know what, though? I think Granke's okay.

He'll be fine. I know. I was like, wow, he's really done. Just very done. Very good. He's turned into strictly an innings leader. Zach Granke, who... Hall of Famer?

I don't think so, but a great career. But he's in the discussion.inke, who, Hall of Famer? I don't think so, but like, I mean, a great career. But he's in the discussion. I don't think a Hall of Famer. Dude, he's been around since 04. And he was terrible

when he first came up. He's had a great career. Yeah. Yeah, he really has. Also a good grid guy. Oh yeah, he's had some teams.

Yeah, he's been on a lot. By the way, I was going to ask you, I wasn't going to, but I may as well, better night on Saturday, Trey Turner or me with my grit?

It was a good grit. It was me. I had the better night. I mean, Trey just hit a home run. Did you have 11? It was seven, and it got moved down to six. Oh, nice. It's actually in over the six, which is by far.

I will never. The only time I have a chance with that is the all-stat ones. That's the only time I will ever have. That was as wheelhouse as it gets. Yeah. That was super fun. A lot of.06s. Yeah.

.07. Froshing it. Yeah. It's big stuff out of you. Thank you. That was super fun. A lot of.06s. Yeah..07. Frushing it. Yeah. It's big stuff out of you. Thank you. Proud of you. Thank you. It was a fun little grid today.

I like the teams ones because I like being able to figure out who played on multiple teams. I know you do. I know you do. That's what I like. Yeah. I'm a stats guy. Yeah. You're an analytics geek.

Yes. That's me. They call me. Yep. What else? You got anything else in the bag? Final thought is how many times did you think about the video yearbook with the Trey moment? So inside baseball, inside our baseball guys' text with me, Elliot, and Jack.

Oh, yes. Very funny moment. For me, it was funny because Elliot says, I'm in for the morning show tomorrow. moment where for me it was funny because Elliot says I'm in for the morning show tomorrow wouldn't it be hilarious if they took my comments about Trey Turner and use them for the video yearbook and Jack responds I've already

thought about it yeah 100% I thought about it Elliot getting into the World Series DVD is a top 5 worst moment of my life it is sickening. It is sickening. It was outrageous.

It's ridiculous. Travesty. It's ridiculous that he got in there. But this is the year that I avenge him. I mean, if you're not in it this year. I'm never getting in. You're getting a shout out on SportsCenter. Shout out Max McGee. Thanks, buddy. And you can't get

on the freaking yearbook. Like, what are we doing here? Only me and neighbor Dan care as much about the yearbook. I know. It's true. It's funny, too, because it's like it would really matter. Like, this is not like, you know, this would be a seminal moment in your life to get in this. Yes. Show Walker.

Yeah. Yeah. Look at that. I got in the video yearbook. I'm proud of you right now, Walker. Yeah. And then as we turn on the 2004 video yearbook and just start starting there and carrying on. Oh, take him through? Is that the plan?

We'll see. Yeah. I like this. I like this idea. That's how I learned. Your dad sat you down? No, I did it on my own. I know.

That's why I said that. I did it on my own. Ross, not as big a baseball guy as you are. Not at all. Which is pretty funny, actually, because you are like, again, as anyone listening, there's as big a baseball fan as I know on the planet, and usually it's the dad. Your dad didn't get you into it. It was my granddad.

That makes sense. Yeah, my granddad. My dad was a huge baseball fan. I know. Yeah. Yeah. So Walker's going to learn. Walker will be a baseball fan.

Walker will be a player, a fan, all that stuff. There's no avoiding it. Some courses you just set your kid on, and that's what's going to happen. Yep. I tried. I tried. The idea of like, ah, he can do whatever. Like, of course, he can do whatever.

But baseball, I just need it. I'm not asking much of you, kid. I don't even care what you do in school. Just play baseball. I do not care. Like, zero. I'm not asking much of you kid alright like I don't even care what you do in school just play baseball I do not care like zero I do not care

no I do not care how he does in school just be a Phillies fan with me you know what I mean you don't even need to play just watch games yeah please

let me have someone to hang out with I will say Zoe like Zoe all in on the Phillies like comparatively she so you'll love this

she caught like when if the Eagles even get brought up she'll say like Zoe, all in on the Phillies. Like, comparatively. She, so, you'll love this. She caught, like, when, if the Eagles even get brought up, she'll say, like, go Phillies. Like, if there's, like, an Eagles thing on her, she'll be like, oh, go Phillies. Yep. I'm like, you got it. That's why. She's got it. Yeah. Big Zoe guy.

She gets it. Yeah, she does. 100% gets it. All right. You got anything else? Just what a weekend. What a weekend. It was just a beautiful August.

Like, nothing going on. Good weekend for everyone involved. Oh, I want to give a special shout-out to Mitch Rupert. Oh, yeah, shout-out to Mitch. He was right there with you on that. I didn't see his tweet until after I tweeted it. Was it before? It was before.

Okay. And he definitely got the ball rolling as well. So I want to make sure that, because Mitch didn't get, there's a lot of. I mean, Mitch didn't get any credit. Mitch, you deserve some credit. I agree. And look, in all honesty, it was a thing where I think people get mentioned. But this was a moment for all of us. I guess Philadelphia fans.

This was cool, man. When people turn on SportsCenter, they're seeing Philadelphia fans doing something awesome and something special and something meaningful that all of us are going to remember. No matter what happens from now, and obviously if Trey is great from now, it adds to a million. This has the chance to become even more special but no matter what just by itself this weekend was a special weekend like we we i you know i love to say this

but it's because it's freaking true is we spend so much of our lives so much of our time of our free time of whatever like like watching this team loving this team buying merchandise for this team talking about this team thinking about this team like and you for this team, talking about this team, thinking about this team. And sadly, in our lifetimes, we've gotten very little. We've won one championship. We don't get to summit the mountain. You don't get weekends like this all the time being a Phillies fan. We just haven't.

In our lifetimes, we just haven't. And it was a special one. And whatever happens forward, no matter what, like, that was awesome. Yeah. And, like, I'm just saying, the national media, don't let Trey get hot. Oh, there it is. Because there's no one. And there it is.

There is no fan base that would love to celebrate that we did it more than like we, it would not go well for a lot of people involved. If Trey like turns into like, he bets three 30 the rest of the year. Oh my God. He did. I'm just saying he did look way better.

Did again. It felt like it looked it. And he talked on Saturday and it was like, yeah, that's been the whole point. Did. Again, it felt like he looked it. And he talked on Saturday, and it was like, yeah, that's been the whole point. He's like, mentally, it was reassuring that I'm not going to go out there

and get booed, essentially. Yeah, of course. That was the whole point. That was the whole point. It was literally why it happened. That's why it happened, okay? And he said that. So, yeah, it was special.

And again, for everyone involved, do not let Trey get hot. Do not let Trey get hot, baby. What a weekend. It was awesome. Nationals, was it three or four? Four, right? Four. All of 640.

Taking four? No. Three? The Nats have won, like. Nats have been good. Well, that's the thing about the Royals. We get the Royals on a six-game win and it turned out to be seven when they won. We're getting the bad teams at the bad times.

Like, the Nats were good this weekend. Handled the Reds. They swept the Reds. Yeah. And I don't like the Bryce quote is now making its way around. I know. A little like... Yeah.

Right as they're coming into town. And for what it's worth, like, he was clearly not taking a shot at Washington. It was clearly a all-about Philly thing. Like, don't get butthurt over it, but you're right. Someone will take it the wrong way. If I was Davey Martinez.

I would too. I'd be like, boom, look at this. This is what he said about this franchise. Yep. Yep. Kevin Franzen.

And all those lifelong Nats in the lineup go out and get crazy. Yep, all those legendary Nationals players. Patrick Corbin's going to really muster up the strength. He is the one. They got one. Is he the only guy left players. Patrick Corbin's going to really muster up the strength. He is the one.

They got one. Is he the only guy left from the World Series team? Has to be. Well, Strasburg, technically. Yeah, I'm talking guys who we will see when they're, like, I think that's it, right? I mean, maybe there's a bullpen. Well, Will Harris, I feel like, has not pitched in forever.

Yeah. Daniel Hudson's on the... I mean, that's pretty crazy. That was 2019. Like, it's not like it was forever ago. It's very Marlins-esque. It is. I mean, usually teams have, like, a dude. Like, it's not like it was forever ago. It's very Marlins-esque. It is. I mean, usually teams have like a dude who hangs around or whatever,

a couple dudes or whatever. Wow. No one. All right, well, there you go. All right, well, let's beat the non-champion nuts. Well, very non-champion, actually. Very, very, very. Like, very, very, very non-champion.

All right, we'll be back later in the week. Again, everyone, like like this was special. Definitely be, it's okay to, to, to enjoy things and it's okay to love our team and sometimes even tell them we love them until next week or until later this week. He's for themselves. We'll see you next time.