High Rollers DnD - High Rollers: Aerois | Final Arc Q&A Special!

Episode Date: August 12, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Pickaxe. RBC has helped millions of young Canadians turn their most likelies into most definities, making their ideas happen with scholarships, internships, and skill development, plus resources for artists and athletes. Learn more at rbc.com slash support youth. Hello, everyone. Welcome to High Rollers D&D. Welcome to a little different stream this week. welcome to a little different stream this week some of you maybe might not be
Starting point is 00:00:46 aware but we will be taking the next couple of weeks off so there won't be an Arois or Hyrule streams for the next couple of weeks and rather than do like one awkward episode before we kind of get into all the big final arc stuff we all had a chat and we thought it would be a better idea
Starting point is 00:01:02 to just do like a little bit of a Q&A maybe talk about the campaign that's happened so far and then when we come back from our vocation break near the end of the month we can actually start fully on this final arc level 16 to 20 in our big 3 plus year
Starting point is 00:01:18 long campaign. Go on Chris Trott We're in the end game now We're in the end game now Joining me as always the delightful players who are going to answer a ton of awesome questions we have Rhiannon Tom, Katie Trott and Kim
Starting point is 00:01:33 and yeah we've all most of us Katie and Rhiannon aside the rest of us have dragged ourselves away from Final Fantasy 14 to do this stream and we're anxious to get back. Right, I'll close it. My hands are shaking.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Yeah, you should do that. Wait, I just queued us for a dungeon. I wouldn't put it past you guys, that's the problem. Luckily, I've got at least two people I can rely on. But no, we're going to do
Starting point is 00:02:04 a Q&A. We've sourced some questions from our Patreon. Thank you very much to our Patreons who support us and just kind of support the show and everything else. So I pulled a bunch of questions from there. I also grabbed some questions from our Discord, which if you're not part of, you can join. There should be links and everything to that as well.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And we're going to answer some questions. We're going to talk about the campaign so far, talking about some moments from it and just have some lovely discussions about it. Maybe talk a little bit about what's to come as well. But before we get into all of that, Chris Trott, we do have to thank our wonderful sponsor for today. Would you take it away, please?
Starting point is 00:02:38 Absolutely. Hey, thanks, D&D Beyond. Without you, we wouldn't be here right now, would we? D&D Beyond. No, we we wouldn't be here right now, would we? D&D Beyond. D&D Beyond. No, we really wouldn't. And you know what? We've got burning questions sometimes.
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Starting point is 00:03:09 You know, they've got everything sorted. And in fact, there's some really good articles on the front page right now, like a quick breakdown of classes in D&D. So that's a nice article. Surviving the Feywild, that's a new realm that's come out recently with a source book. Circle of Wildfire, Attach a Sculpture to Everything to everything you know if you don't understand how to read stuff they've got you covered you don't know what the source books are they've got little breakdowns and articles uh of how to just pass that information to your brain if you don't understand
Starting point is 00:03:38 how to read stuff well you look at a source book and it's just not going in. And then you need another article to explain what that source is and why it's important. Yeah, we're with you. Maybe I should go on D&D Beyond using our link in the chat and our description. Our link in chat, exactly. And then you could sign up, you could subscribe and get unlimited character slots.
Starting point is 00:04:01 You can get a whole host of extra content, free digital dice, and all that good stuff as well. And something to mention is we're kind of doing a bit of a kind of retrospective. I mean, they have literally been with us since the beginning of Arois. We had like a long period of time where we were sorting out contracts and stuff, but they have otherwise been as much of a part of Arois
Starting point is 00:04:20 as all of us, really. D&D Beyond's really changed the way that we play. Rhiannon has only really ever experienced dnd through dnd beyond like that's that was like a whole thing so thank you dnd beyond thank you very much dnd beyond um as always a great sponsor thank you for working with us um now normally after we do the notes i would do a little recap we would do like uh you know there's not much else to talk about like we're gonna answer some questions and things like that normally i would do a recap on the previous episode but today before we get into it uh i'm gonna take a break and without looking
Starting point is 00:04:56 at your notes oh yeah i'll put away to starting with starting with kim uh i'd like you to all go round and you're going to tell me everything that has happened in Eros from the beginning. Just short form. It doesn't have to go into detail. Let's hit just those major notes. Let's see what you can remember. When do we swap person?
Starting point is 00:05:18 I'll say. Yeah. You'll say. Okay. This is probably going to be a very spoilerific Q&A. Oh, yeah. So I just noticed there's a few questions in chat. We're going to be talking very spoilerific Q&A. Oh, yeah. So I just noticed there's a few questions in chat. We're going to be talking about the whole campaign to date.
Starting point is 00:05:29 So if you're not caught up. If you're not caught up. Bye. Or still join us. But just, I mean, obviously we're going to talk about stuff, but you might have a couple of moments spoiled for you. That doesn't mean you have to leave, but yeah. Kim Richards is going to kick us off uh with everything
Starting point is 00:05:45 that has transpired in high rolls to date from the very beginning to take it away no no no we're going from the start kiddo holy shit one fateful day the key points on the first On the 1st of July, 2018, 5 p.m. BST, we started the Aroas campaign. And it was the second of Palace. And I know this because there was discussion on the Wiki channel about this recently. So it was second of Palace. And we crashed. We were all on an airship. It crashed because, well, what Nova thought at the time was the court of the remnant,
Starting point is 00:06:24 no, court of shadows, court of the remnant, no, court of shadows, which are the remnant, were attacking. And we all crashed and we survived with Arvel. I can't remember the name of the two Siaska people. Yusef and something. Anyway. I can see you're reading your notes.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I'm not reading my notes. My notebook is here. It's not even open. Look, see you're reading your notes. I'm not reading my notes. My notebook is here. It's not even open. Look. There you go. You're looking great. So we crashed, and then we had to survive in the wilds, and that's where we met. There was a druid, and she stole our stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:01 It was the name of the wilds. Because we were, I don't know, wild land. Wild elf land. Yep. And she stole our stuff because we were, I don't know, Wildland. Wild Elfland. Yep. And the druid took all our stuff and I lost Tiangong and we had to go get it back. And then we ended up at, not Goldthroat. Where'd you go? Rose Hall. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Rose Hall. And Arvel broke his leg and we ended up at Rose Hall. And that's where we met the halfling lady who had a very sexy inn. And we set up a little charity fund. I wonder how that's doing now. And then, long story short, got Brookstoned in it. Super mega Brookstoned. Was it Yusuf and Corrin?
Starting point is 00:07:41 Is that it? They got... Valor got kidnapped. And then we ended up in the woods chasing that shadow Goliath who was very scary. Quill lost an eye. And then... Chris Trott.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Okay. Chris Trott, take it from there. At that point... What happened after that so so you know there was an important bit with guardians and a fucking we went to a ruin around that point that was before yeah yeah andoliath. That was before, yeah, yeah. And we discovered a lot more about Sentry and the Guardian race, and that they are actually much older,
Starting point is 00:08:32 and that that's the first time Lucius actually touched a matrix and found some information about the Forge and then their history. So that happened. You forgot that, Kim. All right, okay. And then we moved to the Road to Gold Throne.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I believe that was Chapter 3 three starring at roughly a... Stop looking at the recaps. Hang on. The Valigant's kidnapped. What happens after Valigant's kidnapped? The path wasn't an easy one. And the group come face to face with a mysterious and ghostly elven princess, I believe. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:05 As well as a group of the remnant of Calus Starbane. But en route, of course, there was a hilarious moment of Roa. It was probably the funniest moment, of course, where we were awoken whilst taking refuge in a barn of some sort. And Lucius was the only one awake at the time to hear horrible noises and rustlings but it turns out they were just cows but lucius being his naively little boy um after the cows oh we went to the uh ghostly place where we have a place yeah we went to a scary place called... Stop looking at the wiki!
Starting point is 00:09:48 I don't know what it was called, but it was cool. Can you remember what it was called? Where did you go after Malo's kidnapped? I can't remember what it was called, because I also had a bit of time off at the start of the campaign. I was there for that, but I remember we went into that place
Starting point is 00:10:03 and the painting on the wall looked really, like, luscious. That's right. Okay, yeah, Rosal. Yeah, the manor. Yes, the otherworldly person that this ghostly apparition loved. What happened after that? Your turn's over, Trot. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:20 It's not me anymore, is it? I have loads to say, but you take it away. We went to another place, which I forget the name of. of i forget the name of but we went to a lake it was there was a lake um yeah and uh the lake had a green glow to it which we find out later was because there was a ship under like an old remnant ship under the lake and in that place we found that yes was it Ironwick? it was Ironwick it's where Senna's from
Starting point is 00:10:54 and then we found that Vala and some other girls were being kidnapped and some of the local shopkeepers the little girls were little witchy things, little gremlin demon children. Then we
Starting point is 00:11:12 rescued Vala and we set out on the road to Goldthrone where we actually ended up going to Callie's Rest That was an important moment in the glowy bit wasn't there there was we we brought someone very special out from that
Starting point is 00:11:34 spaceship yeah um night frost this is special we went through the vessel of starbane's ship we found an eternana who was tortured. Tortured. Listen, buddy, you had your turn and you can barely remember anything without looking at the way. I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:11:54 We went to Kelly's Rest. We went to Spell Clash, which was awesome. And Lucius and Quill competed. And we went and saw some guardians that were there so we met a group of guardians and we met breeze and then uh we found out that breeze was bringing guardians back to life by sacrificing people to gain their magical energy to then put into the guardians and then we discovered that there was some shit going down so we find out that that was um from the the leader of the town whose name i forget but that's fine she was badass where'd you go. Where was this shit going down? In the, it was like a big churchy cathedral thing.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Wasn't it? What? An abbey, maybe. Abbey. Abbey. That's the word. The word escaped me. It was in an abbey.
Starting point is 00:12:54 So we went to the abbey and we ended up kind of trying to be stealthy, but really, really failing. And then we crashed our way through. Nothing happened. Probably the wrong way. Nothing. Nothing of note happened there. As a result of that, Sentry fell in battle.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And then we all got captured and taken to the underneath the Abbey. And where luckily Vala didn't get captured at the time. and where luckily Vala didn't get captured at the time. They opened a portal and Calus Starbane came through it. Perfect. Let's have Riannon take it now. Riannon, take it from there. So Calus Starbane, he's just appeared from a portal.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Oh, no. Oh, no, it's Calus. Look out, Rippon, here he comes., it's Callus. Look out, everybody. Here he comes. He starts her recap dead. Starts the arc. I'm dead, yeah. I said trees are dead. So I'm dead.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Valor makes a trade with Starbane to free her friends so they can go free. So she goes to live with Starbane, and then Starbane sends him away. But there's a demon in the portal as well the demon came out what did he do? he didn't come out, no he was first
Starting point is 00:14:13 he was first, yeah they summoned him first and then Valor summoned like, yeah so, alright, so hang on so Rhi, so Kallus has made the switch, what happens then? oh, and then he gave like yeah Kim yeah so alright so hang on so Rhi so so Callus has made this switch
Starting point is 00:14:26 what happens then oh and then he gave he gave Nova the star fragment in the thing and then he teleported everybody away
Starting point is 00:14:35 to Voxar yeah yes cool and everybody wakes up on a beach and everybody's really sad
Starting point is 00:14:44 and everybody's like oh shit what do we do now not everybody And everybody wakes up on a beach and everybody's really sad. And everybody's like, oh shit, what do we do now? Not everybody. Not everybody wakes up. Sentry's just like... She's dead. She's dead. But everybody wakes up and they're like, shit, well, we've got to go help, right?
Starting point is 00:14:57 So they go inland and then they meet Oriah fighting lizard dudes. And then... Yeah, like episode 27, right? Yeah, I remember that episode 27 we've got a lot to get through let's get like a rapid fire they go into the town
Starting point is 00:15:11 they meet Scorp who's the best and then they go to like it's like a little village and then they go to a bigger village and then they put Sentry in the temple of all of the gods the priestess of death and then Clara's the temple of... All of the gods. The priestess of death. Kalara.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Kalara. Yes. And then Kalara's like, oh, hey guys, cool. Can you help me do a thing? And so the guys go and help her clear out a ruin, which is being haunted
Starting point is 00:15:36 by spirits. The night eye. The night eye. The night eye. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smeek. And then, yeah. So then they all go in there
Starting point is 00:15:43 and they go bish, bash, bosh. And then they go further in, and then there's a shard of Tiangong in there, and they go to get it. And then, oh, no, a priest. And then a Hadar priestess is like, whoa, what are you guys doing here? I'm going to kill you all. So a big fight happens. Quill dies.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And now everybody's like, oh, oh fuck so they all have to go back and then what it's just in the same style as the recaps you just brush over Quill dies and then move on so Quill it's not a big deal
Starting point is 00:16:21 so Quill's dead so they go back to the temple and they're like oh shit you've got 10 days to revive these guys cool and then the priest says well I know a place so they go to the midwife's forge to go and revive Sentry and they're on their way there
Starting point is 00:16:36 and then Smeek is there and then there's another character, very important character we meet Johan Johan, yep. I had a vision of a dead bird by a claw or something. And then we're like, hey, guess what? We've got a dead bird.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Come see it. Come see it. I think it's a dead bird. We resurrect Sentry. Resurrect Sentry. And then Smeek comes along. And we're like, hey, we're back. Smeek comes along. Smeek comes, hey, we're back. Smeet comes along.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Smeet comes. And then we teleport to Gusthaven where then Lucius is like, oh shit, all my family's dead. On a threat to Tom now, Tom. We're glossing over all of it, Tom. Tom, you've got like two years of content. I need this.
Starting point is 00:17:22 The most rapid fire two years of content. Go. Hang on. Am I the last one? Yeah. Have I got to do the rest of the campaign? You've got to do the rest of it. Oh, we're not swapping back. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:33 No. Firstly, fuck Pirri, am I right, guys? So, we meet Smeak at the Midwife's Forge. Smeak sucks and is the worst. Tormann died as well. Tormann's important. We go back to, anyway, we're back in Gusthaven. Quill gets rezzed when we try and find, like,
Starting point is 00:17:48 this Ethereum thing to rezz him. And he comes back and Hesper's all like, hey, bitch, welcome back. Here's an eye. And he gives him the storm eye. And that's amazing because he can use that to do cool-ass shit. And then we start investigating what's going on with the Elinasto fiasco,
Starting point is 00:18:06 which is the name of that chapter. And we find out this dude who's like Prince Aradan's right-hand man, he's a jerk. We find him in like his secret library, his secret library. And for a moment, when I play Aayla, I accidentally basically strangle him to death and kill him. So that sucks. But then we like find Moonstar and she's all cool and this mysterious
Starting point is 00:18:28 kind of Batman lady. And turns out, uh-oh, that's Lucius' sister. Also, Quill gets his beak blown off at one point by a sniper rifle. Hilarious. After Gustaven, we... Stop looking at that wiki.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I'm not looking at the wiki. There's no screen that side. This is just, I don't know, I don't know who I'm looking at. Reflected vision. Oh, we got a load of money from Lucius's family kicking it. It's a big one. We used that money to buy a ship, an airship.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yay! We call it the thing, and it's made of shadows, and it's really cool. I initially called it the thing. And it's made of shadows. I initially called it Night Frost. We initially called it Night Frost. Yeah, whatever. Smeek dies at one point.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I can't remember how. I don't really care. And then we start flying the ship. And we're like, we need to go places. So we start flying it. I can't remember exactly where we were aiming it. But we fly over the the I want to say Halitali. That's Final Fantasy.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yamalo Tai. And we save them from a load of stuff. That's really cool. We go underwater. Booth joined us. Booth joined us for a little while there. And we go underwater. We teleport to Aegis V.
Starting point is 00:19:42 And Aegis V is an aerospace vessel thing. We go in there. Nova almost dies. Quill casts a spell that is concentration while also concentrating on fly, and he almost ejects himself into space. Another time when Quill almost died. Then we come back.
Starting point is 00:19:57 We fly over the dragon place. Nova loses her arm. Oh, yeah, she goes and does a bone arm. Right. I'm going to stop you there, Tom. I'm going to save you. No, I'm good dental foam on her hand. Right. I'm going to stop you there, Tom. I'm going to save you. No, I'm good. I can keep going.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I can keep doing this. Let him go. Let him go. You are not going to get to the end of this content. You are not going to get there in any amount of time. All right, I'll end it with... Let's keep going. Let's keep going.
Starting point is 00:20:18 This is fun. We fly over the dragon place and they don't like it. Okay, that's correct. All right. Well, Kim wants to keep going, apparently. I don't know if the audience want to keep going. Let's get to the questions. Apparently, Kim wants to keep going. So, Kim, go on.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Take it away. So, that's when we have the ILS thing. And the ILS turns out Nova's real bad. And Nova's like, Quill, do you like me? And Quill's like, no, ugh, you're a traitor. And then it all comes out. It blows up. Nova's like, Quill, do you like me? And Quill's like, no, you're a traitor. And then it all comes out. It blows up. All blows up.
Starting point is 00:20:49 All blow. Actually, no. This is after we leave. Sorry. We do the Vivex stuff first. And then they get attacked by a big Goliath. And Nova turns herself into a torpedo into the giant thing. That was quite funny.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And, oh, yeah, there's that thing that i ordered that i never picked up because we never went back there it was going to be a warm plate sorry century um and then so we we had that really tense conversation with all the dragons on the vex and it was all like we don't trust you and it's like oh cool we don't trust us either um here have a dragon it's a spy um called viz and then we fly off to go to the City of Glass. And as we go there, that's when the ILS stuff goes down. And then it all comes out, all comes out.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Nova's been a bit sneaky. They decide to destroy the ILS, but it turns out, blowing up a really high-powered magical device on an Earth ship, not a great idea. Blows up half the ship, kills a Wolfpack member.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Wah. We land outside the City of Glass, and we meet the princess and the kind of ragtag band of mercs. And then we go into the City of Glass, and that's when we meet Maximilian, the scary, was it a dwarf lady? Like a Durga dwarf lady? Durga lady, yep. And we all decide to work together to get into the City of Glass where
Starting point is 00:22:06 Herald, like evil Herald is, you know, being not herself. And then, yeah, we kind of, we deal with that and Rook. And then Maximilian says, like Rook says something to Maximilian. And then they all leave with Nova's fire elemental. Still want that back. And then we take a break
Starting point is 00:22:29 because we needed to fix up Harold. We start Project Flock together and then we end up at the Italian place, but not Italian place. Sorrento. No, Porto Sobrano. An archipelago.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Oh, here we go. Someone's read the wiki. And then it all kicks off. And then it all kicks off again. We're looking for some wine or some shit and then we go down to some gnolls we need to clear out and it turns out oh shit, Hadar's here. That's fucked. And then we get teleported to space.
Starting point is 00:23:01 You've forgotten one big thing. The gnolls were Hadar-touched. No, what about old Sentinel Prime? We never got the wine. Oh, Root. Yeah, Root happened, and then we go to space. Right, okay, yeah, no. Perfect, I love it. Right, we go to space. Katie,
Starting point is 00:23:15 what happens in space? We end up in a callous, controlled space place we don't want to be in. Then we find Thalia, and we hitch a ride on the spaceship. And then we go to a planet to try and win some wishes where we don't win said wishes. We really piss off Gratz. Then we escape really quickly.
Starting point is 00:23:36 We fly across universe. We find a giant space worm that we have to calm down because it's a dart touch. We fight like a beholder thingy then we um meet palidor and we see that all the ships of starmane's fleet are outside of rois so we convince palidor to let us through we shoot through and we're on thalia spaceship and we go to gust haven when we get back perfect and then we tell Aradan of all of the stuff and the fleet and stuff. Right. Rhiannon, go.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Yes. No. Gone to Gusthaven, told Aradan about stuff. What happens next? And then we go to the meeting. Yes? No. Sure.
Starting point is 00:24:20 No. No. There's something before then. There's a big thing before that. Frogs. Big old big old thing oh the frogs but there's also a big thing yeah but there's also there's also another very big thing oh my god uh so we go to the island for some reasons and and there's frogs there, frogmen, and they're great. And they're like, hey, we have this priest guy.
Starting point is 00:24:51 They pray to a big frog. And they're all really high. Everybody gets high on these fruits. And for some reason, then the frogs get mad at us, so we kill all the frogs. And then the island is a giant dragon turtle. And so everybody nearly dies because the island's a dragon turtle.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And then Lucius gets his lung destroyed. So it's hilarious. Super funny. What's the next big plot point? what's the next big plot point what's the next big plot point after the frogs Lucius
Starting point is 00:25:30 Lucius nearly dies and then before the meeting help her out the wing the wing alright and then we
Starting point is 00:25:37 project flop together yeah cool yeah yeah yeah yeah Nova makes a wing for Quint and then I fly and I'm like damn it's time to do this thing that I had a vision of ages ago
Starting point is 00:25:49 because we need to save Voxar from all the storms and stuff. And it's nasty up there. It's real nasty. It's rainy. It's stormy. It's loud. And we go there and we're like, neat. It's time to use Aayla as a lightning rod,
Starting point is 00:26:02 punch through the lightning storm so we can go to the Valley of Storms and save a dragon from nasty stuff. And it's bad up there. Boy, howdy. It sucks. We go there. There's a temple of Hesper. And that...
Starting point is 00:26:16 Whoa! And we go there. And there's a temple of Hesper. And there's like a three-tier dungeon. There's a load of puzzles and spells. Just say Quill happened. Jesus. And then Quill happened. Jesus. And then Quill becomes very cool
Starting point is 00:26:28 because we save the dragon and it turns out to be Johan and I get a load of cool buffs and it makes me really cool and I look amazing now. Also, I have a wing and it's awesome. What happened after this?
Starting point is 00:26:39 Enough Quill. Wait, just after that, we turn into toys for an episode. And then... You did episode and then we're like hey it's time to do a Metal Gear dungeon so we go to a Metal Gear dungeon that's actually a very accurate summary
Starting point is 00:26:56 and it's called Shadow Song Pinnacle Shadow Song Pinnacle and we go around there's key cards all over the place there's stealth in and we save Shadow Song Pinnacle. Shadow Song Pinnacle. And we go around. There's key cards all over the place. There's stealth in. There's dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. And we saved that place because they were going to blow it to hell.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And we stopped it from blowing to hell. And we went down into the basement. We went down into the basement. We were sneaking around. And we were like, what did we find there? And what did we find down there? We found a digger robot. It was huge. Well, not really. We didn't find it? We found a Giga robot. It was huge.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Well, not really. We didn't find it. We found the plans for it. We knew that they were trying to make a Giga robot with which to punch heaven and build gods. And we found out that thing existed and we were like, oh shit, we better deal with this straight away. And we don't.
Starting point is 00:27:42 We go to the meetings. All right. Kim, finish this away. And we don't. We go to the meetings. All right. Kim, finish this off. It's a meeting. Gig a robot. Make friends with that little nerd, Ganassi. And then we go to the meeting. And we're all convinced of the meeting.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Everyone's going to blow up the meeting. But actually what happens is that Callus is like, yo, I've already made deals with two of your cities. Peace. And everyone's like, oh, that really sucks. Except for Vort and Saar and Giselle who are like, oh, we're with the big purple guy now. Have fun with that. And then Sentry meets up with Petal.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Nova meets up with her family. Moonstar is there. Arvel's there. Rose Meadow is there. It's a big happy reunion And then oh no, Gustaven's gonna be Attacked, what happened Trot?
Starting point is 00:28:31 I just heard you mumble I was just interjecting, that's all Just elaborating You can carry on now Trot, carry on Gustaven gets shat on by mech dragons Or some shit and then And they make a noise They make a cool
Starting point is 00:28:46 noise called like this. Oh! That's important. That's really important. Quill gets taken by one of them things and then we're like fuck we gotta go do that. So we do that by going to the center
Starting point is 00:29:02 of Siaska. No. Well, technically you did, yes, but you specifically went to a god first. A guild god, specifically. They're like, shit, yeah, I'll ping you up there. Boom. And then we go, and then we do this cool
Starting point is 00:29:19 infiltration thing. Hang on, hang on. Yeah, Hesp is dead. Hesp is dead. And then... You go rescue Quill. Rescue Quill. Badass. hang on hang on yeah hesper's dead um and then you go rescue quill rescue quill badass really cool ship um there's lots of bad things there like demons
Starting point is 00:29:32 and shit and valor's there that's awesome let's rescue valor that's a different one but we get a different ship we get quill and then immediately go to this ship which is really
Starting point is 00:29:42 cool has demons on it and then valor's there and we rescue Valor. Valor's back. Present day. Perfect. Katie, finish us off. Like, last couple of things.
Starting point is 00:29:51 You got Valor back. We moved Horizon because it's a flying city, and we went to City of Glass to rescue lots of guardians, which we did. Sentry killed Lord Shitface, Veracitor, and now we're here. Quill went treasure hunting.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Also, Aayla, I think we did see Thor, which was not mentioned. That was a big thing in the form in the lightning rod. Oh, also, I forgot. Oopsie doopsie, we told Zarkira about all the Huttar stuff, and now weakiya about all the Hata stuff. Oh, we?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Sorry? I mean, who told you? We? I didn't tell her. I didn't tell her. She sucked it out of my brain. So, there you go. There is a very short, quick recap over the entire campaign so far.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Very detailed. As you can tell, very detailed. the entire campaign so far. Very detailed. As you can tell, very detailed. Lots of stuff has happened. It's been three years since we've begun Arois and lots of things have happened both in-game and out. And now I've got some talking points and then we're going to start answering some questions. So I've got some questions, which
Starting point is 00:31:01 I'm going to ask you guys. When we started this all three years ago what did everyone what was everyone's thoughts about doing another big campaign did you think we'd get this far did you think that your characters would die that you'd be switching them out did you have like any thoughts or anything like that did you have any ideas
Starting point is 00:31:18 did you think oh this is it another six months we're done can you pick a person next question no next question I was going gonna go around and just ask everyone kim anything like any expectations or any thoughts when we first started eros i think uh i was really because i because you sent us your kind of base notes about the world of eros um some things that you'd created and things like that and and i read that and i was really intrigued with the kind of sci-fi element of it so that's why nova was very star trek inspired um and it was the eterna that i was drawn to the most um in terms of dying i mean
Starting point is 00:31:59 anything could happen really i don't know um i don't i don't know i don't think anyone expects that they're gonna die yeah um okay you first see for saw Nova kind of living this long do you think that all the sci-fi stuff has lived up to what you expected or what you you were looking dear we went into space I mean how can I not be happy like when but even before that when you brought in ages five and and the spaceship under the, um, lake as well,
Starting point is 00:32:26 you know, yeah, I was really, really into this life, but I really liked that. It was like high fantasy sci-fi. So kind of like it was still rooted in fantasy, but it was spaceships and not lasers.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And, um, yeah, um, I originally, I think the Eterna was my sole focus, um, rather selfishly.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Um, and I, yeah, I really enjoyed the way that that's turned out. What was the rest of the question? No, that's it. It's fine. I've got like things I'm going to bounce around to different people. But Trot, what about you? Did you have like any big thoughts going into this? Because obviously like from a production standpoint as well, like we'd learned a lot from doing Lightfall.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Was there anything going into this one that you thought like, oh i really hope we get to do this or like i want to try and change this and stuff like that i remember a very excited feeling because i knew lightfall ended with quite a bang really that was our first foray into it and i knew mark humes had a new project and when mark humes gets a new project he's like 200% writing documents upon documents of things and as I knew it was a whole new thing I was very excited for all the aspects of Aroas like getting Rhi on board
Starting point is 00:33:34 which was really cool starting a whole new character, a whole new campaign setting, I just remember being excited, I was devouring little bits of information about the lore and the world and stuff but really it was just a a feeling of starting fresh with all this learnt from the first one how can we apply that and make it a really fun show for us firstly but secondly um just an exciting new campaign really with the sci-fi elements i didn't really focus on that at all
Starting point is 00:34:03 i thought it was just going to be high fantasy and that slow introduction of techie elements like magitek stuff was really cool uh so yeah i like that um could i just interject real quickly because that's just reminded me of something with trot saying how he created lucius um having come off the back of lightfall with juto who i love i wanted create something. I knew that I wanted to create something that was completely the opposite, like very happy, very bubbly, no edgelord, no darkness. Because I did fall into that first player, you know, doing their first big campaign trap of like, I'm going to create an edgelord. And so, yeah, that was kind of my thought process at the end of that.
Starting point is 00:34:41 It's like, I want to have someone who's happy, who's joyous. And I've never really played a magic caster before so that was my i'm gonna come back to the character creation stuff i've got a bunch of like we've got a bunch of questions all about character creation specifically um so we're gonna come back we're gonna circle back around to that uh katie tom re like what about like we'll start with katie like did you have any expectations going in or like was there anything that you were particularly looking forward to before we started the whole campaign?
Starting point is 00:35:08 Was there anything that you were particularly thinking of or in that regard? Not playing a spellcaster. I think I knew it was going to be another big one. Especially after Lightfall, I think I knew it was going to be another big one. Like after, especially after Lightfall, I think I knew it was going to be a big one. So I think I found character creation kind of, I don't know, easy and hard for different ways,
Starting point is 00:35:37 which I'll talk about when we get to that. But yeah, I saw it for the long haul. So I was kind of hyped for everything. But I kind of, I feel like I go into these campaigns knowing that you have this world and that I'm not super imaginative sometimes with backstories and that you can find these cool moments and I will happily go with it and just be in that world so yeah um but i for
Starting point is 00:36:08 sure was like prepared for it to be a big thing and like trot said like i think our production values went up our quality um yeah well that was that was exciting one note i had was like obviously kind of me uh me you uh kim andot, obviously we all did Lightfall. Like we were there at the beginning of Lightfall when we had green screens that would fall down and, you know, the audio wasn't as good and the camera quality was changing week to week. But Tom and Rhi, like, I mean, Tom, you joined us like midway, kind of through Lightfall, like kind of near the tail end of Lightfall. And then obviously Rhi, you were completely new. So like, Tom, for you, like when you joined Erois, like that was obviously different to when you started midway through Lightfall.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Like what were the kind of big differences for you? Like, because you also came in as like more of a central member of the team, like one of the directors, really. Yeah. So, yeah, when I started as Re reynard we started at like level nine and that was the first time playing dnd so i was like ah this game's easy this is this is so easy how can it be i got a load of spells i got a load of abilities i'm really cool um and also making reynard was meant to be like a three episode thing so for him to expand that was kind of cool but then i know we'll go into the character creation later so making quill was spooky because i was making a character that was level two with
Starting point is 00:37:31 the idea of him getting to level 20 so i had to think really in a different way of making a character that i wanted to play for a very long time and that was kind of spooky and also playing a spellcaster that i've never done before um so yeah the outside of the game stuff like the production side of things and and you know being part of the the og team now basically oh it's cool as hell because man what an improvement uh the the show has has gone because good god it's so much better now that i'm here not what that's not what i meant what i meant was like when we started it we had trot running off to the toilet and not turning off his mic we had like yeah yeah mics crackling mics and cameras turning off all the time and now
Starting point is 00:38:17 it's a smooth ship and the only problem is when trot's pc blows up um it's not seems to be a problem sorry it's the wrong button um um cool yeah um and then yeah rey yeah yeah the baby right like this you joined all of this like i one there was a question it was kind of repeated so i'm not gonna kind of attribute to one person but like what made you say yes because obviously like we had had this established thing and i guess for you maybe it was a bit out of the blue. Like we were just like, hey, do you want to come do this D&D show with us? Like we think you're cool. Like what made you say yes?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Like, you know, and what was that like joining it from the very beginning? It just sounded like a good time. Like genuinely like that's what got me into it. I was like, like Tom was like, yeah, like, you know, Mark does this really cool D&D thing. was like like tom was like yeah like you know this mark does this really cool d d thing and like yeah we'd love you to come on and be on the show and like i was like well hell yeah like that sounds great like i'd heard that obviously i knew that dnd was a thing but like i didn't know it could be like like it's affected me in ways that I never expected it to like just
Starting point is 00:39:26 emotion and emotionally for the most part, it's like, I have moments that it just really gets to me. And like, I never knew it could be like, it could never be that it's, it's insane. It's so good. Like starting the campaign, I was expecting it to be, you know, like fantasy, you know, like, cause, and then when all the little twists and turns started happening and when, when the cog started turning and everything started like, and the story started expanding and getting bigger and bigger, I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:40:00 Like my mind was just getting blown and it still does week on week on week. It's just, and it's such a great experience it's so and like who better to learn from than all you guys like you guys are great we're useless don't don't know how not to do it thank you i was hoping thank you yeah amazing so kind of tied to that i've got some some questions from people on patreon and stuff like that and kind of ties some of these things together so smiley fake mon uh posted a question how much did you and the players discuss character creation together did you mark get them together with the players individually did you give them the concept of the world for them to place themselves in on their own accord or did you have a talk about it with the whole group
Starting point is 00:40:44 we kind of did like a mix of all three didn't we really because i did send you like documents of like this is the world and like i think i made like a one page these are things you should know about arois kind of like some basics um and then we had group conversations where we all kind of got together and talked about you know everyone's character and stuff but then we also did a lot of stuff individually like kim and i we talked a lot about vort and sar and and the ganass and stuff like that um and then i think like rianne and tom and i talked about them starting together and and ideas around that and then obviously you know it was the same for everyone really but yeah we kind of kind of did all three didn't we yeah it's exciting yeah so so like come up with these things as a group to hear
Starting point is 00:41:22 what everyone else has as an idea. That's exciting. Kind of spurs the cogwheels going in my head at least to be like, oh, you're doing that? That sounds cool. What can I do? And also make sure we're not doing the same class and the same race. Not that it matters that much,
Starting point is 00:41:38 but it'd be nice to get a good variety. Not that we're, like, maxing the game. It's just more, like, spice of life kind of thing. Lots of different characters and stuff. I think character creation is my personality yeah as someone else as well because if both of you are like headstrong aggressive and it's just like uh that doesn't one of them is gonna grind away eventually uh or you find a way to make it work like okay well let's both let's be siblings and like we we've got each other's back but we're both gonna be sort of have these personality traits right i think character creation is one of my favorite
Starting point is 00:42:07 parts whenever we start a new project like i always love seeing what you guys come up with and often that will then lead me to changing things in the story in the world later on and stuff like that as well um there's definitely things like you know go on kim i was just going to say what's neat as well is I think all five of us, well, actually, and you, Mark, as well, when you get the rare opportunity to actually play, we have different character creation. Like, we do it in different ways as well to suit, like, us.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Like, I write a 10-page backstory. Chris Trott just sees what flavor of the month is in his head. No, like, you know, I think we all have very different. No. You know, and I kind of like that as well because i think it's like it's cool that people have different methods for what gets them into character and what gets you know what what create how they create their their person and their person's backstory family friends history you know all of that it's something that i've i can witness more of as an outsider.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Like you said, like, I know with you, Kim, I will like, you will provide me some of the world that you want your character to be attached to. And you'll write that for me. And so that, and that's awesome as a DM because you're like, cool, how can I fit this thing that you've created into what I've already built? I'm going to do that. Trot is the type of person where I can say, Hey, Trot, I've written this kind of
Starting point is 00:43:25 subclass i'm not really sure of but i think it's kind of cool what do you think and he's like i want to be one that's it like i want to be that like just we'll try whatever you kind of put in front of him um like katie has that incredible trust of like i've come up with this i need you to help me fill in the blanks like i want you to kind of give me ideas and things to be which is very trusting like to to entrust your dm with some of that stuff is kind of a huge deal and then the same like tom will also come up with like a really solid idea like the whole idea of the messengers guild and and the arakokra and like everything about the arakokra and the valley of storms that was all tom's idea like he literally took a couple of things and was like what if this what if that
Starting point is 00:44:04 what if this and like gave me a load of questions that we built around um and like guardians with century like the whole natural element like we talked about you wanting to be a war forged and you wanted to kind of go for like a druid war forge that would become like animals and stuff and that was really where the whole idea of guardians as a whole concept came from these kind of natural construct sentient creatures and like it all built around that basically. So I think that's definitely like my exciting time is doing the character creation.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah. It's also really cool seeing all the characters come together, even the ones you didn't necessarily help out the player with building the character. Like me and Ria, we spent like seven hours in Discord in one night and we're just talking about our characters. What if Quill was this person? What if Century was this person? I helped Ayla a bit,
Starting point is 00:44:50 Katie a bit with Ayla with like the Laird-Alan stuff. I didn't know really anything about Lucius and Nova so when Nina, obviously big shout out to Nina for the artwork, was doing all the artwork. I was seeing these characters for the first time especially the ones I didn't know about. So when I saw was seeing these characters for the first time uh especially
Starting point is 00:45:05 the ones i didn't know about so when i saw lucius and nova for the first time i was like oh fuck they look awesome and i don't know anything about them um and what they look like and it was just the best so i've got like a dual question here so fail drawers who i'm sure if you follow high rollers you very much know fails artwork you'll see it in the break. And also Speck. Speck asked a lot of questions on the Patreon. I've picked some of them out. They both asked the same question, so I'm just going to phrase it this way.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Looking back to the beginning of the campaign, with the knowledge that you now have about the world of Eros and all the things that have happened, if you were to play another character, what would you play? Or did you have any alternative character concepts back when you started? Or would you play or would did you have any alternative character concepts uh back when you started or or would you play something different now that you know a little bit more about the world like if you had to go and make a new first level character in a rowis what do you think you would go for let me get my second notebook out
Starting point is 00:45:57 alternative timeline i think i was always set on cleric and I also in the character reveal video which everyone keeps bringing up said I was going to be exclusively a healer and a better healer than Cam that's what I said
Starting point is 00:46:12 and I didn't what I didn't know is that early level cleric healing sucks but late level cleric healing
Starting point is 00:46:21 is amazing I heal now guys I heal now but with the idea this class i think don't think was actually out when eros started i think i would like the idea of playing an artificer um because with all the magitek stuff in the in the world that'd be so cool and you'd be able to get some really cool um theming with eros in the character as well i think cool artificer is probably the one i would
Starting point is 00:46:45 have picked if if it was out at the time yeah i think it was out but it was like a it was like play testing or something like that it was it was very much like early stages it wasn't formalized i think when we started but cool all right so tom would play an officer any any other ideas from anyone else um what what would you potentially play now if you were to make a new character or ideas that you had before we started, like any alternative character ideas that never came to see the light of day? Anyone?
Starting point is 00:47:13 I can go. So I found my initial character notes when I was sketching ideas. And again, this came after reading Mark's original Eros notes. And I chose like alien races. So I've gotten written down Ganassi, Asimar,
Starting point is 00:47:28 because you had them allied with tieflings. And then I had Tritons. And I actually did really have this idea. Like I was almost going to go Triton if I hadn't gone Ganassi. And then I wrote down ideas, Judge Dread type, Gruff, Justice,
Starting point is 00:47:43 the Noble Woman, Noble Posh, Madame Bouquet, and then I have the Homesick Alien, which is what Nova became, basically. Nova became. And then I did that thing of trying to choose what class to do, and I think Xanathar's Guide had just come out with a bunch of stuff. So I've got a Mastermind Rogue written down,
Starting point is 00:48:03 and Shadow Sor sorcerer, warlock hex blade, bard college of whispers and grave domain. A lot of spell casters. Yeah. Mostly spell class. Yeah. Obviously Jito was a monk. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Cool. Yeah. So I think I was, it was a toss up between hex blade warlock and shadow sorcerer, because as I've written in my notes, summon hound was a thing you could do. So I was very close to being like a Triton shadow sorcerer. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:48:31 But yeah, so that was, yeah, those were my sort of ideas. But I think homesick alien was the one that stuck in my head the most. And that's, yeah, that's where we have Nova. Trot, what about you? Did you have any other ideas or things that you would like to play now if like we went back and created brand new characters in a row us now honestly mark um you give me subclass chris trot eat subclass and become subclass that's that's what it is pretty sure you've teased you you dangled a little piece of like fruit in front of me for like the next campaign as well it's like oh you might have to fight Rhiannon for that one. Rhiannon was eyeing that one up
Starting point is 00:49:06 as well. There'll be plenty more. Don't worry. I want to see... Think of it this way, right? With everything you know about Orois now, what do you think would be a cool character to play now?
Starting point is 00:49:21 Now that you know more about the world and everything going on it like is there an idea that you'd be like i'd be really cool to do this or to play this kind of idea or something like that honestly the finn star wars-esque style um alkyrion soldier remnant alkyrion soldier that's defected and or potentially one that has lost the memories that they even were one would be really cool and having that as a reveal I'd like
Starting point is 00:49:52 to do that or maybe be you know a civilian that escaped from the calluses world you know the place we visited in astral space and yes seeked refuge on a row somehow i like that idea so yeah that's cool
Starting point is 00:50:12 not particularly i feel like that's fine i mean yeah of the barbarian or fighter mindset when i went into this campaign and i kind of that's what i wanted to do uh i feel like you get very like your characters are very important to you and you kind of like the ayla is my character that's who i'm playing like yeah it was with with ayla it wasn't she wasn't going to be um an elf and but then i read i i knew i wanted to be a barbarian basically i didn't know what kind of barbarian i wanted to be but i knew i wanted to be a barbarian and um i wasn't going to have her be an elf and then mark gave us his like one page summary of arois and the races that are on arois and i was like ha viking say? Well, that fits way too well because I did also want some aspect of me being Scottish.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I did kind of want to put that into the character a little bit. So Viking Celtic elves type stuff, just it meshed together too well with that being a barbarian character. And it was like, bam, bam, bam. There is a character that is already like, I can see that. I can see that happening and um
Starting point is 00:51:26 i don't i didn't want her to sort of have a tragic backstory too much but then she was a bit standoffish and that was her thing i guess um but i always feel like it takes me a little while to i i think it took me a little while at the start of the campaign to know who Ayla was because she was so different to Allura. However, now I can sit down and just, like, I know what... I'm in Ayla mode already. Like, I know what she'd say to everything. I know how she'd react to everything. So, yeah, they kind of become really personal.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Nice. What about you, Rhi? Like like any character concepts or like alternative ideas i just i don't know because i'm not really like when it comes to characters and stuff like i'm up for anything but like i've always liked ideas of like being a dwarf or like um i like being really intertwined with like the
Starting point is 00:52:26 world and like a very naturalistic kind of way. Um, characters based on that concept, I really enjoy, um, I'd also- Druids and rangers and that sort of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. But I'd also like the idea of being like a bard or something like because i'm i you know i'm quite chaotic and i like the idea of being someone who's very just like i like the things you're saying and the plans i have for the next setting considering i'm working i just started working on a new subclass which is basically a nature bard and i'm, yep, you're like literally hitting all of these notes
Starting point is 00:53:05 that I'm like, yep, I'm definitely sure we can see some of those. Yeah, fuel, I need that. Fuel, yeah, absolutely. I was going to follow it on. So one big thing that a lot of people were asking about, and again, it was kind of like a combo question here. I had questions from Joseph B and Wolfie Kid, both on Patreon. Thank you both very much. Very similar, like a question that kind of, a combo question here i had questions from joseph b and wolfy kid both on patreon thank you both very much um very similar like a question that kind of again very similar
Starting point is 00:53:29 questions um basically wanting to know if there have been any surprises or if you have any uh particular kind of thoughts about the characters development over the campaign you know three years of playing these characters we've had lots of big moments in narrative of like things that these characters have done or that they've gone through um but has any of that been a surprise or has been something that you weren't expecting or do you have any favorite particular moments of character development um over that time um you know with those. I'm going to start with Chris Trott. Honestly, Lucius, I knew Mark was going to mess up my story somehow and I was excited for it.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I always am. Like with Cam Buckland, the same thing kind of, that was a thing that was not quite right. But I was looking forward to Lucius having this wealthy background, noble history, and that naivety of just being totally disrupted.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I didn't anticipate role-playing it so much. I didn't think that I'd have to do that, but obviously that's my character. I have to deal with this trauma and play that character. But you know what? It's actually been some of the best role-play stuff I've ever been involved in. I think so.
Starting point is 00:54:46 And I think the reactions of my fellow party, how they're dealing with Lucius going through these things has been an awesome experience. I like making people cry. It turns out I found that out about myself. You have a talent for it.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Who could forget? Who could ever forget, oh, fuck off you do, you bastard. Fuck off from Kim's mouth. Mend your own lung, I think it was. Yeah, mend your fucking lung, you fucking prick, I believe was the phrase. That was a real trying week. And that was the cherry on top of a very trying week.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Honestly, when I created Lucicius i expected to be more of a cam buckland but more timid and like um the prince from blackadder 2 where it's like i'm jovial and funny um without this you know three-dimensional aspect of lucius which is no he struggles he's got problems he's got family issues he doesn't have a family now he's looking for another family and he keeps he keeps dying and or coming close to death and he's now got trauma i didn't anticipate that um but it's also exciting i get to play that and i'm trying to play it with a level of respect um a level of research because there are people close to me that suffer from trauma and i want to do it a level of research because there are people close to me that suffer from trauma
Starting point is 00:56:05 and i want to do it a level of justice that isn't just a comedic character that's traumatic now so yeah absolutely i think you've you've found that good balance of like lucia still has his comedy moments but he's also very inspiring i think because he does overcome it like in those moments and it's it's partly because you know it's a game and ultimately you want to contribute and you want to help but it's also like a cool moment to see somebody who is struggling struggles overcomes it and does a cool thing and helps his friends and then goes back to still like oh well i'm not sure you know oh i didn't do that much and like goes back to the kind of trauma it's like uh it's a good thing to see i think i'm really well i'm paranoidly aware of taking center stage and i think it's very
Starting point is 00:56:49 important to share the game like kim says you know the first player syndrome of like having a character that has too much emotional moments like if if i took every turn to be like yeah i can't do this that's not fun for anybody else but those single moments those granular moments that other people can feed off of and enjoy in a horribly i'm making you cry kind of way but nevertheless in hindsight it's awesome i hope i provide something that's not just like here he goes again doing that thing instead it's like an elevation of the moment hopefully i think so i think so what about anybody else like uh any any moments that you're particularly fond of in terms of
Starting point is 00:57:30 character for them or surprises things that like you weren't expecting characters to do tom you're not in your head take it away hell yeah yeah so quill when he started was a bard cleric and i had a very very uh set in my mind idea of what Quill was meant to be. And he was originally going to be like Revali from Breath of the Wild as this extremely cocky, confident Arakokra who could fly around and do amazing things and then somehow lost his wing and that destroyed him.
Starting point is 00:57:57 And that confidence was going to carry through into the character. And then we did the session zero before Eros even began. And I played him for a bit and he sucked. He was the worst. And I didn't enjoy playing Quill at all. And I was like, I really need to drastically change his personality.
Starting point is 00:58:15 And he became basically me, this meek and scared and terrified bird boy. But I think what surprised me most about uh quill's character growth is i had all these i kind of had the the course was set where i was like he's lost his wing he has visions uh from hespa the god of knowledge like he's learning magic and i managed to transition him into a wizard which was really cool and getting the Storm Eye and basically becoming a seer is not something that I had necessarily planned for in any way or expected Quill to go down that path. But that Mark had kind of given Quill and that you had this idea in your head of what Quill was meant to be.
Starting point is 00:58:58 And you somehow knew that is exactly what I didn't even know I wanted Quill to be. And it was awesome. It was the best. And I didn't even know I wanted Quill to be and it was just awesome, it was the best and I didn't expect it it was less that I had an idea of what I wanted Quill to be and more that like you would set Quill up that he was having these visions he's connected to the god of magic and I was like
Starting point is 00:59:17 well, you know what would be fun is I'm going to give Tom this power I'm going to give Tom this cool thing and see what he does with it and see where he goes with it. And you then took it and you became more of a champion of Hesper. Like when I gave you this thing,
Starting point is 00:59:33 like you were very investigative. Even all the stuff in Brookstone, in Rosehall, Quill was the one who was constantly like, I don't trust it. I'm going to ask questions. I'm doing this. Like you could see Quill as this investigator of stuff as we went through the campaign.
Starting point is 00:59:48 And I think that that was just like a natural, I'm going to give you this thing and see what you do with it. And I think that then you took it and you've developed Quill from that point. I mean, what was most surprising about it is that I didn't even have it in my head that Seer Quill is going to be a thing or you know that sort of character type and then you gave me that ability and i was like holy shit mark knows me so well and he cares about the character this much and i was like oh shit okay it's the best and when i got the storm i was like oh my god mark you liked it. It was the coolest moment because it was just an amazing ability,
Starting point is 01:00:27 and I loved it. It was just such a cool thing to get. Yeah. And it was just awesome to get that. Yeah. I mean, I remember the descriptions of it, like the way it was told. Yeah. You have that galaxy in your eye and that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And the return, seeing the planet and your travel, that was really cool. Yeah, that was really cool. Nice. Kim, Katie, Rhi, what about you guys? Any surprises in the character development or favourite moments of it and things like that? I'm getting weirdly emotional. Oh, that's all right, mate. It's okay. It's been an awesome three years like we've had this this amazing game for three years right like all this amazing stuff has happened and you've had
Starting point is 01:01:10 these amazing characters that have done so much like this is you know when you think about it lightfall we've done more than we ever did for lightfall which was like two years of our life we've spent three years playing these characters but also you guys are going to go to a higher level than we've ever done like arois has been like a home it's been like way more so than i think lightfall ever was i think that you guys have really seen the width and breadth of it right so yeah it makes sense that like you know it ayla yeah because i was having a really shit time just with my mental health and everything ayla kind of became like a strength she became kind of like the strength that I wanted at the time and through that playing Ayla was kind of therapeutic to me in a way that I I didn't expect and that's why now playing her it comes
Starting point is 01:02:17 easy to me because I feel like I know her now and I know how she would react and it's just like that was so unexpected to me and just thinking about it just now just got to me because I was like oh crap yeah like I feel like she's this part of me that I'm like I wish I could be that all the time like that yes she's got flaws of course but yeah I want to be that strong person and I think that's I channeled that into Ayla and that's what why she's so important to me and like allure is important to me in a different way but i feel like yeah i kind of i don't know ayla is you that's the thing to remember right is like that strength's in you because you're
Starting point is 01:03:01 playing that character right but it's sometimes we need this external part of us this this character in a game to help vocalize it and to help embody it and to become it and it's one of the best things about dnd and role-playing games and role-playing in general is you can take this part of you and make it a thing i didn't know was there as well like i didn't know i needed it i didn't know i wanted it and it was just like you know what i can leave a session having smashed something in the face and been like really sassy for no reason whatsoever and feel better about everything like and have that kind of confrontation and stuff yeah yeah i didn't know i needed that yeah yeah trust me all our characters are extrapolations of ourselves in a way because ultimately everything's
Starting point is 01:03:45 filtered through us you know everything we say is our thought process then put into a character then put on the page or whatever or spoken to friends but yeah it's the same thing with lucius it's like i have to be more emotional i have to like do these things that stress me out give me anxiety which is like portray emotion and lucius is more soft in that way and exposed and vulnerable and i have to i have to play that i have to because i'm put into those scenarios that mark and the rest of you guys put lucius in essentially so it's it is therapeutic i agree as as somebody who i mean and and you guys all know this as well like there is a very very big reason that
Starting point is 01:04:25 a majority of my npcs are female characters with very feminine traits and it's because i can't be that person in real life and so it's a great opportunity for me to do that so i totally get and there's nothing wrong with being emotional about it because it is a very emotional thing to do um and i'm just glad that you i'm glad that ayla's given you that like that's that's super awesome to to know that ayla's given you that for sure um that's why i don't want her to die so bad and that's and you know what that's something that people need to understand as well and it's actually something that i want to factor in for the rules for the next campaign is that to a lot of people out there a lot of people that maybe play dnd in a game shop or they play with their friends and it's more of a board game experience um things like a tpk or a character dying is just like oh i
Starting point is 01:05:11 want to see that happen because it shows how challenging the game is or it shows that mark's not willing to pull any punches or because it would make it exciting but the fact is is that for some players a character dying is not fun And we play this game to have fun. We don't play this game to torture ourselves. We play it to have fun and to feel relief and to be in a good place. And so for some people, their character dying is such a huge deal. Now, other people, Tom Hazel, perhaps, and Chris Trott,
Starting point is 01:05:40 I know that they can die. And they might be, like, Tom would sad yeah if quill died like tom was sad when quill died like in a sense of oh man like i feel gutted but you knew that you could you know be okay with it and stuff like that and like i know chris trot and i have talked many times because lucius has come to death many many a bit too many it always happened almost it's like he's always like oh nearly they near i nearly died they weren't all crying though not yet yeah exactly but for some people it's okay and some people it's not and so it's something that i want to try and find a balance with and give some people some protections
Starting point is 01:06:15 of like you can because dying is not the only consequence to losing right sometimes like a character having an injury or losing uh something that's important to them is just as big of a consequence as their character dying so it's it's totally understandable for sure um also what about awesome awesome story moments uh when characters die like yeah it's it sucks it really sucked when when quill died because yeah like it's just a huge shard of myself that i am not playing anymore in this character. And I then had to play Peary for a bit and whatever. But it made such a cool story moment
Starting point is 01:06:53 and drove the story in a particular way. And I also care about making a really cool story that is fun to watch and to play. So that's the main thing for me. I don't want him to die unless it's really cool yeah and the same with injuries too um yeah because man i love different things people have like different uh levels of comfort with different parts of the game right like it's 100 i mean you know we've talked about it a lot before but kim i will never forget like when juto died and you coming to me afterwards and
Starting point is 01:07:26 you were convinced like you were just like i've ruined it i've ruined the game i've ruined your story you were so upset and just like sitting down and saying it's fine a they can fix it and b it's just part of the story it will just become part of the story like it continues you haven't ruined anything like i'll never forget that like i think that was as a dm very formative for me of like fuck like because i've been playing since i was a kid and my character dying was no nothing new i was like that's just part of the game that's just a thing that can happen but with a brand new player i got to see it from the other side and be like oh fuck no this really can matter Like this can really have an impact.
Starting point is 01:08:05 I think as well, given how long we play these characters and have these campaigns for with someone, what with like people watching as well, I think they get even more because we have amazing fan art coming in of that character. And all it does is make you love them more and more and more. So then that becomes an even bigger,
Starting point is 01:08:24 I don't know. It just becomes this huge thing that you're like oh my god this this character is so important to me and it's important to other people oh my god this is this is big it's a big thing what are you gonna say kim uh no i i was just gonna say that um one like i have plans if nova dies i think mark and i have spoken um had a discussion about you know things that will happen if nova dies um but also like i think in lightfall um juto dying and dying quite early on i needed that as a player like as a new player i really needed that moment to happen you know once i was over the initial shock of like just ruined everything um like i needed that as a way to kind of row back and
Starting point is 01:09:06 change juto up because you know i had pushed her into this really stubborn arrogant asshole place and um yeah and the solo episode we did was just amazing and i always remember you were really surprised at the end of the solo episode there was a decision that you had me make and I chose, like, I'm not going to say it just in case, you know, but I just remember you looked at me like kind of almost a little bit surprised, like oh, okay, okay, you know and yeah, I kind of took
Starting point is 01:09:36 that forward and was like, okay, now I felt like I've arrived. I felt like in terms of Dungeons & Dragons, in terms of Lightfall, in terms of High Rollers, I was like I'm here now. I get this now. Yeah. This is interesting, actually. So with that in mind,
Starting point is 01:09:52 because obviously that was your first experience, but Rhi, what, for you, like Sentry died. Like we had a similar scenario, right? Like nearly like a 20, you know, a few episodes in, Sentry dies. So for you, like, how was it? Was it the same thing as Kim? Like, did you feel that it helped you kind of a few episodes in, Century dies. And let's look at your first. So for you, like, how was it? Was it the same thing as Kim?
Starting point is 01:10:06 Like, did you feel that it helped you kind of move forward? Like, right, okay, I understand now and I'm kind of moving forward with this. Or like, how did it feel? Absolutely. Like, it was, it was that moment that made me establish that,
Starting point is 01:10:21 like, I didn't expect to have the emotional connection that I had, like when it was happening and I was like, oh my God, like I'm getting really upset. Like, oh my God. Like, yeah. And it was like, it just showed me like the power of D and D and like the power of the game. And I was like, like fuck like this character that i've actually i've really come to love is just gone and it gave me an opportunity to yeah like then i made a raya and you know tried something different for a few weeks and then as much as i loved a riot coming back to century afterwards i was like oh my oh my God, I'm back.
Starting point is 01:11:07 It kind of gave you that awakening moment. Yeah. And it's really important. But also, yeah, as a story point as well, it created an interesting path for the story, I suppose, because then it gave the guys a reason to then go to Voxar and then heal Sentry and stuff. So it taught me kind of just not to be afraid of it like not yeah like don't like it because it because stuff happens like you know it it gave you this moment to kind of like build around and a cool story thing and then also kind of showed you that if it did happen it's not the worst thing in the world
Starting point is 01:11:40 like you could find other ways yeah yeah for sure exactly yeah yeah so it was really interesting it was a really cool experience nice everyone i've got some rapid fire questions before we go on break go on tom what was that i just said everyone needs to die once everyone gets one luxury too why not yeah christopher would love to die but you won't let him someone kill me already we got some rapid fire questions before we go on our break here um so this is so this is from wolfy kid as well it was kind of tucked onto the end of their question what moments do you so far do you wish someone would draw fan art of i mean we've had a lot of great fan art of amazing moments but is there any particular moments where you're like man i wish somebody would draw this i don't know if i've seen it or missed it uh but um selfishly lots of nova moments
Starting point is 01:12:29 nova and quill when quill flies when she straps him in to his new heart his new wing and harness and he goes and flies um and uh the other one would be um ages five um nova sacrificing like her herself to save everybody like to power the pool i think those two stand out and actually nova and quill having a fight yeah that one i think there's something there was a little bit of art for that but yeah but that would be a cool one to see, I think. Anybody else? Any other moments people can think of that they would like? And be selfish.
Starting point is 01:13:10 You should be like, my character did a cool thing and I want art of it. The lightning rod moment in the... Yeah, the lightning rod moment on the deck of the Storm Chaser where Aayla's channeling all this lightning into her and sees Thor. yeah pretty badass one from there was an episode like maybe holding up the giant hand of that giant um robot guardian like um in terms of like somebody asked if we is there's any moments they want to see animated and the the ailer holding on to the the lightning rods and then the flashes of the visions with thor like
Starting point is 01:13:49 for me like in my head that's such an animated sequence of like like everybody else is watching you just kind of being zapped and then you get these flashes where you're like in this completely other realm having this conversation and then it cuts back to the... Like, for me, I was just like, oh, that'd be so good animated. Yeah. Really, Tom? My one doesn't actually have Quill in at all. It's the Halls of Resplendence when they were trying to contain all of the magic that Hesper was pushing out.
Starting point is 01:14:18 I don't know how you draw that, but yeah. The wall of guardians that Sentry had, there was like Aayla holding them up and uh lucius just generating huge amounts of uh rainbow magic it was it was awesome it was really really cool um and i'm sure i've seen one piece almost almost definitely exists i think somebody did a sketch of it i don't think it was finished i think there was a sketch of it but not a finished piece nice oh bale tried piece nice I think Vale did I think Vale did one
Starting point is 01:14:47 I'd have to worry about Lucius moments because Vale's drawn it thank you Vale there's a Lucius moment, Vale's drawn it I've actually had one in my mind which was sentry meeting root and I've always had this image in my head of like a tiny
Starting point is 01:15:03 sentry in a huge environment like a tiny century, uh, in a huge environment of a massive root, um, in the background, like gargantuan, like shadow of the Colossus style looming over. That's what I, like when the root was on the ground in that cave system,
Starting point is 01:15:17 or is this like in the matrix kind of thing? In the physical meeting, the physical cave where she just is. Also the century Hadar throne room thing. Yeah. Yeah, that was cool. It's tucked into the Matrix. That was awesome. That was cool. There's just so many cool visuals. So many good moments.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Yeah. All of them flying around and fighting Verasator's ship and stuff like that. Sentry dunking an Ethereum missile into it. Sentry with the missile. I don't know. There's just so many cool things the last episode just animate the last episode yeah just animate that one i mean if you want to do that just some go and watch the like 1986 transformers the movie movie and just imagine
Starting point is 01:15:56 century and veraster as megatron and optimus that's that's how that whole episode was played out i was just like the fight in front of the conduit with like rolling around on each other and punching each other and stuff I'm just like it's my dream it's my dream between two scenes like the centrifying and also
Starting point is 01:16:17 struggling the feral's crawling up as well like the three different time up as well like yeah yeah i was gonna say yeah yeah i also want to find out all of the monsters that have eaten lucius um he's been in a lot of months all right a couple more rapid fire ones uh weomo, do you think your Arois character is your favourite D&D character that you've created? I mean, Katie, I'm going to assume that that's a yes.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Yes, yep, yep. I mean, we can say yes. Kim, no, I mean, and it's fine. Like, Kim, absolutely, say if there's other ones. Like, it doesn't have to be. I was going to say yes, but I'll be honest, Dog's body has really kind of you know carved his way into my heart yes you were very sad about shadow dying i remember you being like oh man i really like shadow shadow was really cool yeah and then we talked about like well do you want to
Starting point is 01:17:19 come back as shadow and you're like no i'm gonna i'm gonna play dog's body for a little bit longer and you really came to fall in love with that guy. That's awesome. He's my little pauper. He's my little pauper. And I feel like, just going back to the earlier question about character development, I felt like he had character development. I'll be honest,
Starting point is 01:17:37 I'm a bit lost with Nova. I don't know if it's because I feel like maybe Nova will grow up if we go back to Vortensar. But Dog's Body had a very, a very good arc that I felt very comfortable with and very invested in. And I loved every second of it. Well, Nova's in that difficult thing of like the moral gray, right?
Starting point is 01:17:57 Like she understands what the bad guy is doing. She almost sees why, but also doesn't agree with the methods, but also kind of feels a bit sort of like the naivety of like the heroes of a race it's like it doesn't quite match up so she's kind of caught in the middle a bit um i think i think nova will have uh that resolved but for sure can see that it's really more derping to go from like i i thought alora is absolutely always going to be my favorite character because she's everything i wanted a character to be I put into her and then I started playing Ayla and the just from connecting with her so much I'm like ah she's my girl she's like I still love Elora so much and always will because she's my first character but playing another character I think has given a lot more perspective
Starting point is 01:18:42 because it feels like oh okay this is like we're getting into playing dnd now that was that was first i feel like i've got more experience to come into with this one yeah i don't know it's interesting for sure uh lord derpington uh i'd like to know what all the characters would say to their level one selves if they met them so your characters now meet your level one selves is there like a particular thing that they would say Lucius good fucking luck I think that works quite well for Lucius good fucking luck any other ideas
Starting point is 01:19:16 any funny lines that you guys think funny lines yeah nothing funny except other people's help you asshole that's a good one for Ayla it'll be okay that's
Starting point is 01:19:31 incredibly depressing for Quill but very true as well give up the bard don't level bard don't bother don't level bard it's worthless just be a cleric um amazing i think centuries would be uh would be trust yourself yeah that's nice yeah i think centuries
Starting point is 01:19:54 definitely definitely that's like centuries arc is the kind of nervous not quite sure what's going on to becoming this leader this kind of you know confident like you you know you're responsible now kind of vibe yeah for sure yeah um nova um i'd say don't trust people so unquestionably idiot wow don't tell yourself lies this one's a nice this is a really quick one uh this is just to kind of wrap up i had a i kind of categorize them all about characters um indigo morton asked did any of you consider multi-classing throughout the campaign anybody have any thoughts around multi-classes i still do i still dabble around with ideas yeah Yeah. I could aquamumber it anytime. Sorcerer is an easy one. Sorcerer and Paladin
Starting point is 01:20:49 I find are actually quite good ones to multicast because there's a lot of cool options that you can kind of mix around with them and cool ideas and concepts.
Starting point is 01:20:56 I couldn't ever see Aayla. I think Aayla is just raw barbarian. I don't really see Aayla multicasting into anything. I did think briefly of fighter but then I just went nah
Starting point is 01:21:09 I'm pretty especially with path of the storm herald I really wanted to keep levelling that up because it's just I love that side of the barbarian thing that I've chosen that's cool I know we've talked about some stuff for Nova haven't we Kim like in the past and for the future plans and stuff like that as well
Starting point is 01:21:28 i don't want to i don't want to say anything too much at the moment but for me i was always a one class kind of gal especially learning a spellcaster as opposed to monk um i wanted to wrap my head around warlock but i won't lie the later level of Warlock suck. So I am thinking of dabbling with the last three levels, so we'll see. We'll see what I do. We'll see. And then old Tom perhaps regrets
Starting point is 01:21:57 multiclassing. Actually, no, because you like Wizard now. Yeah, I like Wizard. I regretted multiclassing Cleric and Bard because they're the same damn class. What's the point uh it's not true but sure no it's not true but if you multi-class it the spells that you get are identical like whatever so um but now that i've got into wizard especially the um one that gives me i've forgotten the name of the ability portent uh that just fits so well with the theme of the character and i didn't realize it existed until i um wanted to swap out bard and it was just
Starting point is 01:22:30 primo loved it yeah that's all important i hate you but i also think you're so good it is so tasty right uh we're gonna take a quick break and then when we come back i will go through these we'll see if there's questions in the donations and i've got a few more kind of talking a little bit about some of the amazing arcs and stuff that we've done um a little bit about lockdown and the way that we've kind of dealt with in that and then the main thing which i want to talk about which is looking to the future this end game content and some questions around that so nice we'll come back to that see you soon hey everyone it's sponsor time and since this is&A special, it's only fitting we continue that theme here. So let's begin.
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Starting point is 01:24:25 and worldwide shipping with code HIGHROLLERS at manscaped.com. Thank you for your questions, and thanks again to Manscaped. Anyway, back to the show. Welcome back, everybody. Chris Trott just struggling there to actually end the break. I forgot we had at least three 3-2-1s but we got there. So I want to quickly run through some of the donations and stuff
Starting point is 01:24:49 and bits that we've been given. I'm not going to read out anything that's not a question. We'll just do a big thank you at the end. So Phil Macrin donated. Thank you very much. If we have another epic century 1v1 fight again, can we have Jewel of the Fates playing? Pretty sure we'll get some copyright trouble for that one
Starting point is 01:25:07 and also it's phil mccracken uh phil mccracken phil mccracken uh matt pat thank you very much uh matt pat i love you all so much help you through a lot thank you very much i always wanted to know what would have happened if the portal wasn't opened by Valor. Sorry for spelling. So this was like a common question that was posted everywhere. And it's one of those questions that I don't know if I'm going to answer that just yet. One thing I will say though, because obviously I want to save some stuff for when we round, we finished the campaign and we can kind of talk about all the avenues not explored. One thing I do want to say and talk a little bit about is a lot of people, and I've noticed this when I've been looking at the questions for the Q&A,
Starting point is 01:25:50 a lot of people think that I have the story of Arois all planned and laid out and it's all like a road that I've built and I've filled the world and I have all this detail and all this knowledge about all these things in excessive detail. and the truth is is that i employ something called the iceberg which is what you guys see and what these players interact with um is just like the tip of the iceberg right and then they can see this world that's kind of below the surface that's all hollow right the the bit that's at the tip is the actual interactable bit and that's got all the detail anything that the players don't interact with anything that doesn't isn't important to the players doesn't really have any detail to it and so things like i haven't really thought about what would have happened if valor hadn't opened the portal because it didn't happen so there's things
Starting point is 01:26:39 like that right where like you know if if it's not important to the story or if it's not important to the players it probably doesn't have as much detail about it as you think so little little is a world filled with impenetrable invisible walls this is bullshit well it's not because if you went in a certain direction it's more like um i'm painting the scene like five feet ahead of you guys and you're like wow look at this place it's beautiful and then i'm like desperately like painting the scene like five feet ahead of you guys and you're like wow look at this place it's beautiful and then I'm like desperately painting the landscape down the road ahead of you
Starting point is 01:27:11 I'm like building the structure as you go you got the point from the gestures yeah the world is loading in in front of us think of it in a video game sense. Yes, the game is loading in as you go to areas that you want.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Didn't we have that recently where we kind of chose a path and you were just like, could you talk amongst yourselves? Reload my notes. Yeah, it was going back to the treasure. It was when Tom wanted to go and pick up the treasure. And I was like, mm-hmm. Yeah, that loaded me for ages. Yeah, so.
Starting point is 01:27:51 That's how they were developing it. We're going to finish quite early, a little bit early today, because I quite honestly haven't planned this far ahead, because I didn't think we'd get here. Yeah. Because it's also like, I, like, because quite often I will prep stuff that you guys just aren't interested in and like i will dangle a carrot for something and you'll go like
Starting point is 01:28:12 and then you'll just go off somewhere else i'm like okay so it's that idea of like i only wanted like if you guys aren't interested in it i'm not going to force you to go and do it like i only want you i want to build things around the things that you're excited about the npcs that you care about yeah that's why quite often an npc will turn up and then they'll vanish to never be seen again because you guys just obviously didn't really weren't that interested in them so why why bother making them a thing it's honestly a lesson every dm has to go through is don't be so beholden to your vision. You've got to let go. You've got to let your players do it.
Starting point is 01:28:48 So don't craft an intricately detailed world only for like a tenth of it to be explored. You're not writing a novel. Yeah. I'm not writing a novel here. I'm not planning everything out. I'm kind of building the road, looking at you guys going,
Starting point is 01:29:02 which way are they going to go? Are they going that way? Right. Okay. Quick build the road on that side. It's like, oh, they, they really like the trees actually. I'm going to put some more trees down. They really like those trees. I put more of those in, like, I always think of it as like being a chef, right?
Starting point is 01:29:17 Like you prepare a menu and then you let them pick from them and they go like, oh, I really like this and you're like, all right. And then you make that right. And then you kind of build other things around it kind of thing so that's kind of anyway rambling rambling answer are there any npcs that you wish you got to play more of or you wish you saw more of like smaller time npcs not not ones like moonstar or people that have shown up a lot but really cool npcs you enjoy playing no do you know what i don't think so i think all of my my favorite mpcs have definitely had big impacts in the story whether
Starting point is 01:29:52 because i've made them uh like danica i've made danica important to the story because a i think she's cool and it's nice to have a powerful spellcaster who is an ally, right? But for the most part, I think the fact that you guys love Valor a lot, I was just like, that's awesome, because Valor's a character that's very... I was like, yep, big important part of the story. I'm glad that they really like her. But I generally think most of the NPCs you guys have come to care for are the ones that I expected you guys to.
Starting point is 01:30:21 I don't think there's really been any that I didn't like. I guess Rosemeadow is a funny one, because I love i love playing rose meadow because it winds some of you up and the other and some of you love rose meadow like yeah whatever rose meadow's there is the best and then like tom's like fuck's sake it's rose meadow no i wasn't no i loved rose meadow quill doesn't like rose meadow yeah well did no that was it was uh mainly because it was the first time we got to a town in a row is in the campaign after spending like six or seven episodes in the wild and it was grueling and horrible and then rose meadow showed up i was like finally finally someone i i'm at home nice he's so warm and lovely yeah so i think like stuff
Starting point is 01:31:03 like that but for the most part no like you guys like also as chris trotters pointed out i i have add i think i do i'm very fickle i drop npcs like i wear i put on npcs like i wear fucking hats i'm like yeah i'm gonna put this hat on now i don't like this hat anymore i'm gonna put this hat on ah this one looks stupid now i don't like it and then i change them frequently so most of them are cowboy hats yours should be thankful eros has lasted as long as it has honestly kudos to mark for sticking with it and keeping this going got new things try i want to work on the new campaign yeah um so watch him tp chaos no no i'll never do that I didn't even do that in Curse of Strahd when I was getting to oil and I was like,
Starting point is 01:31:47 oh man, I want to wreck Curse of Strahd up. There was a point. Not in a rowist. Never in a rowist. Helpful Goku asked, what happened to Nightfrost? He got crushed, mate. He got destroyed. Gone.
Starting point is 01:32:00 He got crushed, mate. MK13Wolf with some bits a question for Trute why do you make characters that have a tendency to be frequently inefficient
Starting point is 01:32:12 in terms of combat specifically early on wow it's down to my own idiocy rather than them being bad Trot why are you so bad
Starting point is 01:32:21 at D&D I'm glad you asked no it's well A it's boring to be perfect every time Why are you so bad at D&D? I'm glad you asked. No, it's... Well, A, it's boring to be perfect every time. So I often take the RP route. If it's available to me, I'm like, boom, yeah. Can I fuck the party? Hell yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:32:36 Because it's visually cooler. We are not a min-max party. We are not a group that is about doing what is optimal. We are a role-playing group that enjoys the role play um yeah and yeah i like to put it can we sorry you finish shot no go for it i'll finish after you i was just gonna say shut down someone stop with can we can we just like stop with these questions of like why have you you done this? Why have you chosen this? Why have you done that?
Starting point is 01:33:06 You should be doing this. Because I really, I don't like it. I think MK13, in their defense, I think this is more of a question of like, is Trot purposely choosing more of a role-playing thing rather than telling us that we're playing wrong. But Kim is very right in that we get a lot of that. Not this question. Other things. Other comments. Apologies, MK. plain wrong but kim is very right in that we get a lot of that um and yeah it's i think other things
Starting point is 01:33:27 other apologies mk we get not this yeah i don't think that was mk i think that mk was uh kind of asking more it's like in a funny way he's trying to get a little joke at me i get it um exactly but you're gonna get a serious answer though because i like to consider our mistakes if you will like i forgot dichro mancy i forgot blah blah as inherent organic moments of arois like dichro mancy shouldn't go off every single time i cast the spell i don't think it should work that way personally i don't think it should be a hundred percent win rate for these kind of things like sometimes the magical energy of my color just didn't pull out enough whatever and i i treat it as like a rewriting those moments as part of yeah it happened because it did that's just it's also lucius's character right like he's you know
Starting point is 01:34:16 he's not this you know spell slinging combat demon he's like a guy who knows a bit of magic and panics and freaks out so it makes sense that like he forgets to do things or the magic doesn't work fully every time and stuff like that i think it makes a lot of sense now if you were playing a character that is built to be very competent and very skilled and things like that you probably would want to try and get the most out of your abilities and make sure your attacks hit and do things like that because you're playing a character that's meant to be competent i don't think that like and like we see that with like ayla right like whenever ayla misses i always try and frame it in a way that it's not ayla being
Starting point is 01:34:55 stupid or ayla being like you know bad at fighting it's the circumstances of the enemy parried the blow or something else affected her aim because ayla is a very competent character who's meant to be good at fighting whereas lucius isn't like i think lucius is figuring this stuff out as he goes so it makes perfect sense i think i learned in one of our one shots that i should never rise above my station and try and be smarter with the character than i actually am cough ellick cough where i tried i literally tried to do fast intelligent speaking as a fucking bird and got my head cough so you got your head cough before you had to do more of the fast intelligent speaking you kind of saved
Starting point is 01:35:39 yourself in the rp there yes yeah so i think we all tend to play ourselves so it's a good answer but yeah and just to reiterate it's a case of like uh we do any kind of frustrations at questions about optimization is because we get a lot of shitty people on the internet trying to tell us that we're our fun is wrong why are you playing your character wrong whose brain came up with the character yeah exactly not yours remixed eyes remixed here it says two things i'm just trying to read this oh this is just a this is just a nice question but it's a little bit about production actually um two things first me and my dnd crew just finished our five long uh year-long campaign and the ending was just amazing mark thanks for inspiring me to be a better DM.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Second trot, this is about production. How do you manage the music changes? They're so fluid and perfect. Love you all included. I get asked this quite a few times, actually, so it's kind of useful. It's a good one, Swanson. I can try and summarize without taking over and doing a whole tech session. But what I've- Plus a tutorial, please.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Plus a tutorial. I essentially have gathered over the course of arois and before that when i wanted to do the music but couldn't and didn't have control uh a load of music control i like control uh i have broken down a load of playlists and kind of felt them out like just over the course of using them was like now that fit really well for that moment this atmosphere and that emotion and what i've done in my music player i've created a load of playlists that i can shuffle if i'm just i need to focus right i need to role play right now just put on some ambience that's beautiful or uh hopeful uplifting journey nostalgic i've got all these different categories here and then in each
Starting point is 01:37:19 individual track where i like i need a specific thing right now, I've created a description column, which is like, this starts with steel drums, and it's planning and pondering. And I know that song. I know at 30 seconds it's going to crescendo. And I know the way Mark speaks, he's going to really build up to something big here. That's the thing, yeah. He really nailed it, the cadence and everything.
Starting point is 01:37:42 And that's why I like control, because I know if we give that to someone that's extremely proficient, an audio engineer, that's like being in the Hollywood industry for countless years, they're still not going to go no mark like I do. So it's true. It's also like the visual clues, like Trott knows when I'm about to go into those moments, like he picks up on the visual and audio clues. Same for the rest of you guys.
Starting point is 01:38:04 I know. Yeah. And for all of us but then also I will know I can see about like I can see him picking the music and I know okay like most of these tracks if I like just start very softly and I'm gonna speak this and then the crescendo
Starting point is 01:38:19 comes in and I can hear it and then you can do like the big time stuff and then we all start crying we all start crying that's a good question, thank you Eyes Remix, thank you very much Kejin the Merc donated $125 thank you very much
Starting point is 01:38:34 Hale finally caught up on the podcast version of Arois thanks for making an amazing story to listen to, you all inspire me not only to play but to take over as DM for my group when the OG DM had to leave, here's to rolling rolling onwards no question it was just a lovely message and a very generous donation thank you very much thank you again just a very lovely generous donation
Starting point is 01:38:52 200 buckarinos I'm back I still love you all how are you all doing today we're doing lovely cola cola man but we are going to answer some more specific questions thank you thank you as well man mk13wolf has donated a lot of bits like 10,000 odd bits
Starting point is 01:39:08 in various different donations one question I'm not going to answer MK13 because it's about Starbane and Zarkira and Hadar and stuff like that I'm not going to answer that one any teasers for what the next campaign will be I'll give you two I'm going to get a big big reveal for campaign three here
Starting point is 01:39:24 it's got dungeons and it's got dragons there you go oh my god oh my god oh uh that's all i want and then we've got one here and this is gonna you know yeah very big spoiler this is gonna tie in very well to like um the next series of questions i got from the patron and discord here. Uh, one man wolf pack, uh,
Starting point is 01:39:47 after callous and Hadar, what do you see your characters doing? So that's like a big future one. Now I, I have an idea in my head about what the characters will do afterwards, but I'm saving that one. That's my secret. Uh,
Starting point is 01:40:01 I've got, I've got an idea. Yeah. I'll be dead. Uh, yeah, no, I've got, I mean, I don't really want to say it cause I've got an i'll be dead yeah i'll be dead uh yeah no i've got i mean i don't really want to say it because i've got an idea of what it is that quill would be doing and it ties in you feel it's a spoiler but it ties in a little bit to what quill is doing in this break as well
Starting point is 01:40:16 in this gap of time before everyone rejoins to you know continue adventuring um so i think yeah you'll see a snippet of that, I think, at the start of the next episode when we have that break of where Quill will almost definitely end up being if he's not dead. Yeah, nice. Anybody got any strong ideas for their characters
Starting point is 01:40:38 of post-Kalasadar? Go on, Rhi. Again, I don't know if I want to say, because it's endgame stuff, and I don't know if i want to say because it's end game stuff and if i you know i don't know if i'm going to get there or not but if century gets there then yeah i've got a really strong idea of what i want century to do at the end very strong uh not gonna say yeah it's difficult it's a difficult one to answer i think so i think it's a kind of hard one to give away, right? Sure. Well, let's move on. Depends what happens in the next arc as to what the end is.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Oh, yeah. I mean, it could change completely. Yeah. For Nova, it very much depends on what happens with Tiangong. Like her motives and her life is so tied up with Tiangong. It really depends on what happens with that. So who knows? Who knows who knows i think moving on uh so with everything that's happened there's been some pretty amazing arcs and things throughout a rowist again three years of content you think like we we did the kind of jokey recap so much has happened in this campaign like it has been a whirlwind non-stop thing sun tiger 745
Starting point is 01:41:47 I'm very excited about this question for the players what has been some of the worst frightening or best surprises Mark has sprung on you oh can I the um the Hadar stuff recently
Starting point is 01:42:03 scared the shit out of me. When Sentry tried to save the Dominator. Yeah, that terrified me. I was like, I've killed Sentry. I genuinely thought that was it. I thought in that moment I'd destroyed her.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Because if Hadar gets her, then there's no way. That's it. I was like, shit. It was one moment. I just killed her. That was such a fun opportunity for me because it was where, because you've kind of had glimpses of Hadar, but having that moment where I could be like, right,
Starting point is 01:42:39 I'm now going to show you who you're up against. And having that moment where I could, the fucking throne of mouths and just the power of this being that was like super cool to get to mention not just killing century no no not even me like using century and then being the owner of all fucking guardian souls being hadar touched you Breeze 2.0 on a- That's worse. Worse than Breeze. Breeze doesn't have the matrix. Breeze doesn't have the prime matrix.
Starting point is 01:43:12 It would have been way worse than Velastor. Yeah. No biggie there, Sentry. That was a fun one because that was such a spare of the moment decision you made. And then it led to that. It was great. I loved it. It was fun, but it's to that. It was great. I loved it. It was fun but
Starting point is 01:43:25 it's scary. Any other scary or surprising moments that I've pulled on you? Zarkira's meteors. Oh yeah. That sucked. And that then was like every time we met Zarkira it was like
Starting point is 01:43:42 like shit. We can't go up against her because i know what she can do and that's terrifying yeah well it's also because you guys you and trot and kim were obviously in on tom as well you guys were there at like the high levels of lightfall where i think i did cast it but it was like in such a different scenario and your characters were so different then as well that like you guys can you guys know how powerful like a ninth level spell can be whereas like i think some of the audience and like riannon that must have been a like sorry how much damage does it do like what yeah i was like excuse me yeah can i have a good timing
Starting point is 01:44:19 where we've been in a place that we could at least shelter or something this was like no no you're on a ship in the air you can't do anything like yeah yeah the whole johan arc as well yeah and we just we're really being up you were being up and it was i remember looking at her spell list and i was like okay they're gonna be quite far away they're like 800 feet away like what spells do i have that are in range like and I was looking through a spell so I was like nope can't use that can't use that I was like I'm gonna look at it like meteor swarm it's like three miles like it says under the range like you can climb up to a mile away so I was like yeah it's the only spell she can use to try and knock them out of the air and so she would try and use it and yeah it was a big one
Starting point is 01:45:05 good god any others? yeah as much as I am a massive fan of the injury table god I love it because I love the story like looking at a character from episode one to now
Starting point is 01:45:21 especially with Quill I guess how different he is you you know, one eye, he's got the repaired wing and stuff like that. Just the progression of the character and how they look because of the injuries and all the stuff that happens to them. However, when the first major injury happened and it was Quill losing his eye,
Starting point is 01:45:38 that, oh my God, that was so cool. But like, I was just kind of like, fuck, I've lost an eye and i'm like level four or something like how am i gonna repair this uh and it just i didn't know how to react to it really beyond like oh crap that's not even on me that's just the dice man that was just like rng choice you know i love it very cool kim trot anything i don't necessarily have um a scary i don't really get scared it could be surprising i get surprised all the time but confrontation with moments where i have to talk to my sister that's just
Starting point is 01:46:19 been revealed as being my sister after knowing that our family's just died knowing that i've got a big like emotional thing for lucius to get through and you springing that upon me um is usually the biggest scare of like my role-playing sessions i'm like oh no i have to feel things yeah i have to evoke feeling and emotion and you know it's anxiety inducing for me because it's like oh that's a vulnerability i don't show that stuff so yeah nicolessa in chat said wake up you're married lucius like that was like a complete another rng role and i can just see your face of like what yeah yeah that was a surprising moment but i've now let's like go check on faith come on you're back in the storm chaser now go check on you're a cool thing yeah for sure well it's giving the audience
Starting point is 01:47:10 a cool thing it has yeah kim kimbers um anything to do with starbane every time i went to you're just giving me a complex every time i went to sleep and you're like nova in your dream and i'm like oh for fuck because like in that in that kind of like i'm i'm gonna look forward but also kind of similar to trot it's that like i now have to try and and be smart with starbane and try and get what nova wants to get which is like information or like convincing him that his idea is just terrible and how the fuck do you do that and it's that kind of pressure of like how do i play mental chess with this dude um in the next five minutes and then for me like a big upset was during the meeting because we were all so convinced that something was going to happen with like
Starting point is 01:47:56 it was going to get attacked we're going to get blown up like there was going to be a traitor in there and then it was like no and especially the way you played it out with like nova you get a message in your head and it's a panicked message about my family and i'm like what and then oh yeah it turns out giselle and um vorten saw because i didn't actually i never thought that we'd get to vorten saw i i pretty much i wrote about vorten saw but i honestly didn't think at this point in the this year i was like i don't think we're gonna get to vorten so i kind of had given up on that idea. But then for you to be like, yeah, they've signed up with Stalvain. I was like, what?
Starting point is 01:48:31 The ultimate betrayal that we didn't expect. So this ties in perfectly. That was a big one. Cola Cola Man just donated and said, Mark, what's the biggest, most fun thing you were waiting to reveal to the party and be like that meeting let me tell you something about that meeting uh that meeting i had had prepared or like i had planned and i knew what was going to go down for months months and months and months nina knew about it i was constantly saying to nina like oh they're getting so close to this meeting i can't wait for them to like find out like what he's done and
Starting point is 01:49:07 like have this big reveal um that was like killing me inside so like that like every time you guys would be like how how far away is the meeting and I'd be like it's eight days away it's eight days away for the meeting I've been counting like it was like constantly burning in
Starting point is 01:49:24 me um so that was like a big one for me there's still one more reveal which i think you guys kind of have figured out most of it but there's still one big mystery there's still one big mystery oh my god it's not been so i know what it is johan's a dragon that was another fun one actually that was me and rams working on that one um that was a good one because like and it was when tom and like you and trot said something like you're a fucking dragon aren't you and like i had to be like what a ridiculous idea it's so hard on that one yeah also me going back to what kim said said on that last question as well, there is something primal about the fear I feel when Mark says, you take a long rest.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Tom. And I'm like, oh, fuck. No, not a vision, no. I thought you liked the visions. I gave you the visions because you like them. I love them, but there's something about them. No, we do love them. We do, but there is a certain thing where I'm taking notes There's something about them
Starting point is 01:50:32 Where like I'm taking notes and then anytime that that happens there's a visible shakiness in my handwriting Your heart is a little flip you're like It's like I'd like to stand up and read for the class. You know something cool is about to happen. The one mystery left is all to do with Calus, as you've guessed. Calus and Siasco. There's still a couple of mysteries there
Starting point is 01:50:57 that I am excited to be revealed fully. Just the whole nature of it all. Doing this, I didn't't realize would be the perfect way for us to get into the final arc because it allows us to like discuss amongst each other like reflect on the entire journey so that we can influence how we're going to do this last bit so that's this last bit is so like this is what it's all been building towards you know like like this last arc like i've i've since eroes began i've always had an idea of how i want the campaign how i would like the campaign to end and we're on track for that like i feel like i had in
Starting point is 01:51:36 my head like one to five would be you know in savona it's very sort of local and like helping local people with their local problems and like doing stuff on a very small level uh six to ten would be bigger like visiting other continents meeting leaders doing cool stuff you know doing you know getting more into like the bigger plot and the reveals and the foreshadowing of big events uh 11 to 15 would be the like right now it's learning i mean you guys got a much more direct education on the planar events than i was expecting but it was like now you're going to learn all about the planar events and the threats and callus is going to make like his big sort of
Starting point is 01:52:15 like right this is it now it's war and we're coming to get you and you've got to save siaskar and all of this stuff and then 16 to 20 is is what you guys are about to do now it's like the culmination of all of those things so so we're definitely on track with the with the ending you want are you a fan of happy endings moving on so i've got some questions here uh this one is from yamarashi do you still remember the first time you guys played D&D and at what point did it make you say this is pretty cool and fall in love with D&D? So obviously for some of you that's going to be more recent than others and like some of you it won't
Starting point is 01:52:52 even be on screen. Lightfall episode one on camera. First ever time. I mean yeah same I think for most of us now. Well because Kim and Trot have played before like that was the thing like trot and i played like we the only reason that high roll is a thing is trot and i were playing rpgs
Starting point is 01:53:10 when i was working at yogs like when i was the social media manager and moved to bristol so second game i think uh i was doing it in my flat with friends from yogs i decided to dm it which is you know classic someone has to and no one else knew how to do it has to um what was the question what was the point that you fell in love with dnd like what was the point where that you said this is really awesome and i want to do this more like what was the point that kind of turned that switch so it might not have been episode one it might not be in your first episode there might have been like a certain moment in like a game or I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:48 Yeah. Go on. You guys first. Yeah. Episode 26, I think was. Yeah. That was the point.
Starting point is 01:53:55 That was the point where I was like, yeah, for obvious reasons. You were like, oh my God, this game has made me feel. Yeah. So much. Yeah. it's great. So good. Nice. Cool.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Let's keep it going. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, that's, I mean, what a way that that kind of shows a lot of your kind of mindset as a player that what's the episode that made you love D&D? Oh, the episode where I died. Yeah. That's a big deal. Now you can't stop me. died yeah for me it's a game out of game thing where i came out of well one of the first episodes i did so i'm not going to do any light full spoilers where i was kind of like talking about the game with tash where i was with as much passion as i was talking about games and films i love because i'm always talking to tash like oh this is really Tash, like, oh, I did this really cool thing in Mass Effect
Starting point is 01:54:45 and Commander Shippen did this really cool thing, and it was amazing. But I'm coming home and I'm like, oh, cool, just got the Storm Eye, and now you can see the future. And it was with as much passion with that as with stories I love. And also, I'm constantly making references to it,
Starting point is 01:54:59 and it's really awkward as well. I'm like, oh, it's just like the Night Eye. Remember that one? No? You don't watch Hype? Okay. It's just like the night eye remember that one no you don't watch okay it's just my dnd thing i do it's fine um and it's it's yeah welcome to the war stories club where you when you meet other dnd players you start being like yeah my character's this and we did this really awesome thing once where i i could see the future and i got to predict this thing it was really cool yeah yeah they yeah trying to explain it to people god damn
Starting point is 01:55:27 it's impossible was it really like do you think it was episode one light fall like playing on camera like I don't think it was episode I don't think it was episode one but for me but I we didn't know what we were doing maybe a few in because yeah we were like
Starting point is 01:55:43 well this might just be this one stream. Who knows. Um, but then probably with Juto early on, it was like, Oh crap. Like, and I got more emotional than I thought at that and was like,
Starting point is 01:55:56 yeah, uh, I guess I'm pretty in bed. Cause I remember that vividly. I remember that. And, um, I think that's probably the first point of playing dnd that i can
Starting point is 01:56:06 say i've had that much emotion attached to it and holy crap that's something i didn't think it would be yeah probably then i think nice kim trot just dug up my light fall um it says i'm crossing that's my light fall notebook because i just wanted to have a quick flick because the easy answer would be like when juto died and then i figured out like what was what but i actually think for me when i really obviously i was really invested but when i started getting into this flow of like i cannot wait for the next episode was when we met korak and then it was like we had all of that and like I just remember that scene where I was like screaming murder murder like you
Starting point is 01:56:50 know and and we had to switch it up so that like cam and Elora were holding Juto back and and then there was like crown rend and like then it was like my first corrupted weapon and it's like yeah just every week I think from that point on I was like I cannot wait to see, you know, what are we doing next? What's happening? Like, yeah. So, yeah, I would say everything, everything from that, from dying and coming back onwards, like everything. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:57:16 So, yeah. Trot. I think I've always loved it. Always. Just loved it. I can't find a pinpoint, but i've always wanted to do dnd since i was a kid and couldn't and failed to get my family to do it and they got bored of me uh so the i just i love it every time i get to do it i think yeah and i'm able to do it amongst
Starting point is 01:57:35 people that also enjoy it so anytime it's happening doesn't matter in what format uh i love it so yeah like episode one through to arois episode this latest one doing this as a career is literally the greatest thing that's ever happened to me like it's it's literally the fucking best i love it um okay well i'm gonna move on now so obviously as part of arois like we went through lockdown like i know that's like we started off, Erois, not in lockdown, and then we did, like, two years of it with COVID. And Suntiger745 here said, aside from having to move out of the studio and play from home, which granted is a big change,
Starting point is 01:58:14 how much did the pandemic affect things for you? Was it hard to keep playing with all that was happening, or was Erois more of a welcome point of normality for you, something that kept going despite lockdowns and everything disrupting so many other things? I have my answer but i want to hear from you guys yeah re yeah just a yes i i totally agree with the second part of that statement like i just normality kind of thing it gave you like something to look forward to the end of 2019 to the start of 2020 was an absolute disaster. Like for me,
Starting point is 01:58:45 outside of everything else that was going on, like, like I'd, I'd lost my job at the end of 2019. And then I was, I had to, I was going through a bit of a shitty time and then having some, having this to come to every Sunday where none of that shit existed,
Starting point is 01:59:04 like, like, and then obviously with COVID happening and everything else, it was just so stressful outside of what was going on here. And for one day a week, I could pack all of it up, put it in a box and bury it somewhere far, far away from me. And I could come here and have fun with my friends and be in a world that was just great to be in and and it's just so much fun and yeah yeah i'd yeah i don't know what i would have done through 2020 without a rowis like i genuinely don't know what i would do and yeah it's
Starting point is 01:59:48 it's kind of just been a real lifesaver for me in a way is that kind of is that weird no i fully agree that's how exactly how i feel like this has been like my my one piece of sanity that i kind of kept like as a very you know i'm a very introverted person who is often on his own a lot. Like in even, you know, obviously I've got Nina and we live together and everything else is fiance, but I'm a very introverted person. So having this one thing that was like,
Starting point is 02:00:17 I'm still being social. I'm still hanging out with my friends and playing D and D and doing this thing every week was invaluable to me. I will say, for me, moving to digital D&D has been the hardest because I think for most of you guys, you played a little bit at the table, especially Kim, Katie, Trot, and I,
Starting point is 02:00:35 and a little bit of Tom, but we played at the table a lot. I grew up playing. For me, D&D has only ever been a thing that you do at the table. And then moving to digital has been really hard. Like, I really don't get on with it as much as I do in person. And so this has been a real challenge.
Starting point is 02:00:52 But I'm so glad that we had the technology and Trot really kind of taking on board all the production, sorting out the software that we use, running the streams, has made it so that I can still enjoy it. Like, if I was trying to do all of that stuff as well as DM, I probably wouldn't, I probably would have had to say, guys,
Starting point is 02:01:09 we need to stop doing high rolls till we can go back to the studio. I can't do this. Like I, there's no way I would have been able to do it all. Um, so yeah, it's like, that's been a huge thing.
Starting point is 02:01:18 I miss playing in person, but I'm glad that we've found this Avenue. And in some ways it's a lot better. Like in some ways it's, it's, you know, we've had far less technical issues and things like that um and it's been good for that but yeah like in terms of just social wise like god yeah having a rowis every week is just a little bit
Starting point is 02:01:34 of normality for sure for sure for sure yeah definitely like at the start of um covid i was living in a one-bedroom apartment yeah which meant that I was living on my own. I worked in my bedroom full time. I didn't leave that room much. Basically, I hardly used my living room because I had to basically put a PC set up into my bedroom to then work from and stream from. And it was very much, especially at the start of COVID, when it was a very it was very much especially at the start of covid when it was like you can't you can't see anybody at all like anyone i didn't have like support bubbles weren't really a thing whereas now um obviously i'm in a two bed and not
Starting point is 02:02:17 on my own anymore but it's having uh not just having a rowist, like the streams on Sundays, but also we've got a discord server where we all just hang out and having that combo of both things. It's made, it's definitely made me feel less alone when I was like literally on my own all the time, like being able to just jump into that discord server and chat to these guys every night was like so so valuable and then
Starting point is 02:02:47 having this online and i kind of personally i really like the online playing and it's been easier for me but that's because i think for me after work i can much easily just sit down and log in and i and it's more relaxing for me because i have such a my full-time job does sometimes go over hours um like quite frequently so it's it's a bit less stress for me to do it online but i still do miss seeing people in person so yeah it's it's been interesting but um eros has definitely kept us going i I think. For sure. For sure, for sure. Anyone else? Got any thoughts?
Starting point is 02:03:31 Yeah, man, time lost all meaning for a while there, didn't it? Because, good God, like, Mondays turned into Wednesdays and then to Fridays and Saturdays, and just having that, like, consistent thing, like, I can look forward to this thing on Sunday, and that's something to keep going for because are we live on yogs i love my weekly job we are i love my job uh but man it keeps going um and it's just something to look forward to to keep you going for the next week and the week after and the week after. And otherwise, good God,
Starting point is 02:04:05 I don't even know what Wednesday, I would have lost it. I would have lost time. Rob, I don't know if you agree with me, but like having a full-time, like nine to five, nine to six job where you have to do that, plus you're just trapped in your house.
Starting point is 02:04:20 I don't know how you've, it's been like everything just blurred into work for me that's that's the problem I had everything blurred into work and not fun it was like there was no switch off it was just you're at your computer desk and therefore you are at work until at least now having a two-bedroom I can leave my office and close the door and go okay you know what it's relaxed time the rest of this apartment to be in. Whereas before in my tiny setup, it was like, oh my God, I'm trapped.
Starting point is 02:04:50 Yeah. Trot, what about you? Because obviously you've been doing all the tech stuff as well. Like this has been a huge change. You had to kind of take ownership of all of this. Like when we moved in. And it's the best thing ever. Honestly, I'm a tech slut.
Starting point is 02:05:04 Honestly, I'm horny for tech. I had to learn a whole new program and I just, every single moment of like, I have to get this expensive piece of software and learn the intricacies of how it works. Oh, I've got to buy microphones for everyone. Oh, I've got to spend money. Well, it's not about spending money so much.
Starting point is 02:05:22 I just need to say one thing about new tech. And Josh is like, I've already loaded something I'm looking into it as we speak it's given me a project to a focus on through lockdown which allowed me to enjoy lockdown
Starting point is 02:05:37 I think a lot of people struggle with lockdown I fucking loved it because I was in a new house and everything was a project so i had a lot of distractions where i didn't have to worry too much about i fucking hate eye contact anyway so it's all good um but yeah the tech side of things i had a lot of frustrations with the studio uh because it's out of my control right? There's certain things I can't fix that problem right now. And we walked into a room that wasn't set up for us
Starting point is 02:06:09 and blah, blah, blah, blah. The music's not quite right. And I suddenly had all this control. And on top of that, I get to do the layout. I can do this anytime I want and control the audio. And yeah, it's been great because of that. Just control. He loves control.
Starting point is 02:06:30 He wants it. He wants control over all of it. I can't stop him. So what you need to do is we need 50,000 pounds so we can build the high roller studio that Trott will control and own and run. I'd love that. That is the dream. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:45 He has enough power. That is love that. He has enough power. He has enough power. I'm happy to give him more if he gets it done. We could get an LCD built into a table and then we run Roll20 to have digital animated maps around an actual table.
Starting point is 02:07:03 Don't. Honestly, people do it, dude. I can link you to a bunch of people that have done that already so well i was trying to think of like dynamic stat sheets in the middle of the screen that then you know goes to our discord and like unnecessary shit it's like just fucking focus on the role play but i'm like oh i could do these like unnecessary fancy stuff on top. But yeah, it's been great for me personally. I love being at the table. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 02:07:36 It's a social aspect thing that I do miss of seeing everybody and like your body odor and stuff is a bit off-putting. But other than that, pretty good. Especially Thomas. Yeah, that's mine. But I feel like i still get that essence doing this every week um i think i think it's very much a a personal thing as well like like i said like i grew up like to me dnd is a thing and i spent 20 years playing this game in a certain way switching to digital is very hard like i've gotten used to it and i can do it now
Starting point is 02:08:04 and i see many of the benefits but a part of me always is going to be like yeah but remember when you and your friends would come home from school and you'd go around your mate dave's and the big dinner table and you'd all have drinks and you'd have pieces of paper and dice everywhere that's d and d that is um that's just my brain is going to be that so yeah yeah i made so much easier with d and d beyond beyond thanks tom um kim any thoughts before i move on to another another bout of questions so it's adapted. It's made so much easier with D&D Beyond. Beyond. Thanks, Tom. Kim, any thoughts before I move on to another bout of questions? Any thoughts on any of this?
Starting point is 02:08:32 No, I think everyone's pretty much covered it. You know, what a fucking wild couple of years. It's coming up to a couple of years, kids. I don't know. Personally, the little thing that really I enjoyed was having something to think about during the week that wasn't the dumpster fire that was the world um like you know I was just kind of flicking through my notebook as to the story beats that we covered and I do remember at the time like I'd be sitting there thinking like what would Nova do right now and
Starting point is 02:09:00 what if we did this and if we had level up like if I swap out this spell like maybe I could use it and it was really nice to just have something to think about and ponder over that was just not like are we all gonna die like well i think also in a situation that we find ourselves in with the pandemic being in a fantasy world where as an individual hero you have so much influence over the world like all these problems that that fantasy world has you feel well i can fix those because i'm a hero and i've got magic and i've got a huge sword or a huge hammer like you feel you have more control over and i think that's why dnd especially boomed in in the pandemic is because actually people can escape to a world where they can make a difference, right? They can actually have control
Starting point is 02:09:45 over it. If Sky Prince Aradan says we're going to open up the Sky City again, we can go up to him and say, no, you fucking idiot. No! Smack him around. Modify memory. We had a very intense conversation. There's no such thing as Freedom Day in Arois. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:02 You know, it makes a difference. You joke aside, it makes a difference. We joke aside it makes no difference um we're gonna move on because we've only got a little bit of time and i do want to rattle through some of these questions we're going to talk about so we're now on the cusp of playing at the highest level content we ever have um we did dabble a little bit in lightfall descent uh with the players being sort of like level 15 but even then they were hitting like level, 16 which is where Arois characters are now this has certainly been a challenge for me as a DM in terms of creating counters
Starting point is 02:10:30 and things like that but it's also been I imagine quite exciting for you guys as players like I mean just before we get on to actual individual questions from me how are you guys feeling about playing this high level like are you excited is it overwhelming like what what's the general feeling about playing at high level excited hell yeah yeah yeah i love spells we've never seen
Starting point is 02:10:51 before yeah maybe i love sitting there and think how can i be really fucking weird with portals how can i you know i love the high level stuff i just love you know do you guys to think outside of the box and yeah do weird stuff do you guys find that you feel more um not necessarily anxious but like are the combat scarier now do you feel like oh fuck we're going into these fights and like man this is going to be tough like is is or do you go in feeling like you you know what, we got this. We're fucking superheroes. Yeah. I think it swings. Yeah. Like, so heavily.
Starting point is 02:11:28 Like, the moment someone does, like, oh, there's, like, ten enemies against us, this sucks. And then all of a sudden someone casts a spell or does a hit and it's like, I just did 300 damage. How about that? And it's like, oh, okay. That's... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:42 Or like, Aayla, like, you say say like, oh, we've got 10 enemies. Oh God, this is really scary. Then Aayla hits one and they die in two hits. And you're like, oh, yeah, this is easy. Or like Lucius' prismatic sprays. Yeah, but when we get up to those big fights that we know we're going to be like big, big moments, like that's when it can get like really anxious.
Starting point is 02:12:04 Like when we've got a goal in mind that get like really anxious like when we we've got a goal in mind that we're going like when we went to rescue vala that was terrifying that whole that whole thing i was like we shouldn't be here we shouldn't be here we shouldn't be well because it's suddenly taking you outside of just worrying about hit points right you're actually worrying about like well we might get trapped or something might happen to the valor or whether or not that was a walk right our way out of here yeah whether or not it's star Banes on the ship is our Kira gonna be on the ship like it was there's so many big bads to worry about that it not just a question of like us as individuals it's like how can
Starting point is 02:12:44 this affect the world of arois as well yeah even if like against those individual soldiers you guys probably could have fought through that ship of regular soldiers quite easily like most of those guys have got like 10 hit points a piece and i'm sure you could have dominated them but it's those big scary villains right like zarkira and callus and the big demons and stuff like that that you were like oh go on yeah the anticipation trot what you're gonna say uh go back to the question as much as it is exciting to have all this awesome unlock potential i'm slightly apprehensive because when you get to the end game of high fantasy novels that will be going on for a long time and it starts becoming
Starting point is 02:13:29 big God, like world stuff, usually the point where I switch off and it's like, they've just got unlimited power and they're not grounded in any sort of thing that I can relate to anymore. So it's going to be interesting to ride that line of like making a character have that transition to they could do that
Starting point is 02:13:49 if they wanted to but they wouldn't because they still retain their human qualities right or not so I want to make sure it's still like a story of friends that you know still retain that
Starting point is 02:14:04 still care about the smaller stuff. Yeah. Wait, are you worried that Lucius is going to at one point just say, I am a god now and just leave? No. He's never going to do that, but it's just, I'm worried about him becoming unrelatable. That's what I'm worried about.
Starting point is 02:14:24 Because he has that potential why wouldn't he um fix everything or blah blah is that exciting as a plot point not that i'm planning out in the future but like i fixed famine blah blah it's it's not exactly exciting anymore is it when it's there's nothing at stake yeah that's and i think that stakes is the correct answer like right now as characters you all still have plenty of stakes and things are at stake for your characters um there is definitely a point in dnd that we could reach where it's just like well yeah but is anything really a threat or is anything really we could just bring the dead back now like if somebody dies we'll just bring them back yeah doesn't matter
Starting point is 02:15:06 like exactly you can reach that point that's a very good point um and also some asking questions bagel bish uh now that the campaign is in the end game are there any things that you thought about changing about your character with the benefit of hindsight any specific spells features you would replace like anything
Starting point is 02:15:22 that you think back and you're like i wish i could change this or i wish I could have that or, you know, be a different thing. So I'm going to compound that one into a duo question. I asked on my Twitter, whatever question gets the most likes on this tweet will get asked regardless. And I was really worried when I posted that
Starting point is 02:15:39 because I thought someone was going to put something dumb and I'd have to answer it. But the question that came up was, obviously there's been a lot of hard decisions made in a row. If there was one moment you could go back to and do differently, what would it be? That one got the most likes. Not why is Tom Hazel so
Starting point is 02:15:53 damn sexy? I wish I could answer that one. Didn't get the most likes. Sorry. Well, there you go, Tom. What was it? Don't know. Just wanted to... for god's sakes you've got this question what's the one thing you would go back and change and you don't have an answer for it I've got a very quick
Starting point is 02:16:12 answer so I can go to other people my metamagics I always bloody get them wrong or they're like never suit in the situation so that changed those that's perfect anything else anyone any ideas early in eros i didn't really know who ayla was and then i had some time off for personal reasons so i think like
Starting point is 02:16:32 i guess i wish i knew her better and i see comments um in earlier episodes being like i don't like ayla really can Really can't stand this character. And I'm like, looking at her then compared to looking at her now, I'm like, well, she's so different. And I hate the fact that I played her differently at the start, but then it's part of getting to know a character. So I think it's like, I would like to have gotten to know Ayla quicker so that people could
Starting point is 02:17:06 see that. Also side note, don't tell people the characters are shit it's really hurtful. Very nice, not very nice. And yeah, I mean like, well, Kim went through the same thing with Juto, right? Like you had the whole, that whole kind of similar situation with Juto at the start. And then I think both Ayla and Juto
Starting point is 02:17:22 Yeah, people have come to love those characters as well like i think that the you know it's people really love those characters for the reasons like that they are you know strong and independent and they know you know they they became more confident or more caring in some cases as well like i think both ayla and juto went through that journey of going from the sort of like uh terse sunday like you know kind of rough to actually like oh i do care about these people and i want to look after them and i want to help protect them and stuff like that and i think that that's it's a classic story arc right like you
Starting point is 02:17:54 know that's it makes them much more likable it's a difficult line to tread when you've got a character who's a bit solitary to start with but it's not like it's a difficult one to play alongside the party like i wouldn't ever want to step on someone else's toes because of a character choice that i make so i think it's like just trying to find that balance of where a more hard-faced character can fit and i think that i found it eventually but it just took maybe longer than i wanted it to yeah that's that's absolutely fair like we all have those things that we want to change and stuff like that yeah anything else i think yeah absolutely being being introspective about stuff is not a bad thing like kind of looking back and saying like i wish i'd done that a little bit differently is is very healthy i think it's human and that makes a better character
Starting point is 02:18:43 um yeah any any other ideas of like stuff you would change or like whether that was like very healthy, I think. It's human, and that makes a better character. Yeah. Any other ideas of stuff you would change, or whether that was abilities or spells or little moments that you wish you'd done slightly differently? I mean, I've already said I wish coined a bard away into wizard, so that's my change. I've already answered that one, I think.
Starting point is 02:19:00 Yeah. That was, you know, that you were unhappy with it, and we wanted to change it, for sure. Yeah. Yeah sure yeah yeah yeah but if not i can move on i'll move on um just a tiny one for me and i kind of wonder if i should have like kept the necro hand because i feel like that was such a big thing for nova and that was the consequence of it and um i i wish i had thought about that moment when you offered the restoration i kind of what i do think like should i have taken it would it been different like you know just taking that moment forward with nova um but yeah just i haven't really
Starting point is 02:19:41 thought yeah and i think it's hard with stuff like that because we never really establish the boundaries of like, you know, what does the hand do? What's its, what downsides does it have? What benefits does it have? Because we didn't establish that stuff. And that's a little bit of like a mistake on my part. I think if I kind of provided you with more solid info,
Starting point is 02:20:00 you probably could have gone, oh yeah, I want to keep this thing. Like I want to have this thing or no, actually I want to to get rid of it and you would have been more confident in that decision i think but sometimes these things happen with like narrative decisions like that like that stuff is always very hard to balance and judge but i'm glad that it happened like i'm glad that the you know she did sacrifice the arm and we did have the necrohan because it was a cool character thing um what's really cool and sometimes healing it's okay sometimes that's an okay thing but like yeah like you said if you feel like you could have got some more growth or personality or something out of that then yeah for sure that's a thing we could
Starting point is 02:20:33 have gone back to re anything on your mind or i can move on yeah um during during centuries kind of uh degradation stage I feel like I kind of wish I'd played a little more into that and made her a bit more wild but I think at the time I was I don't know I feel like I was too
Starting point is 02:20:57 kind of scared I was I don't know why I was apprehensive about being into it yeah I was, I don't know why I, I, yeah, I was, I was. There's many reasons as to why. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:21:13 First of all, like worrying about how the rest of the group kind of respond to it. Like, am I being disruptive? Am I ruining moments? Also we're streaming this, like as much as we make a big effort, when we sit down to play, we have always approached it from the approach of we are just playing D and D and there are some cameras. We're not performing performing it we're not making a show we're playing our game and we're just going to film it knowing that you are being filmed and that people are going to look at it and make comments can cause that hesitation of like not going for a certain thing or like not role playing a certain thing out because that can be a huge influence massively so yeah i think uh
Starting point is 02:21:46 something that we've done a few times is we've in like the breaks or at the end of episodes or something we've kind of gone up to the other players and said like hey um what if i what if i did this thing with with this character would you be okay with that i remember dead reckoning this is a kind of a spoiler for that where trot just turned to me in the break and was like hey i'm gonna fucking kill you is that cool i was like hell yeah hell yeah um yeah but yeah just talking it through before you just on screen just randomly say hey yeah i just brought sword to the side of your face ha and it just happens and then suddenly it turns around it's like oh actually i shouldn't have done that well this kind of ties into a question it was a bit
Starting point is 02:22:23 later on but musical owl asked topics of impacted mental health has seemingly to come up frequently recently with good reasons it's an important thing to talk about and the gang has been through some shit what sort of safety rules do you have in place to keep everyone feeling safe and at the table how did you negotiate um and then there's another question separately one thing i'll say with that is um i mean i i believe that if you are running D&D, absolutely having some sort of safety tool system. If you are playing with people that you don't know very well, absolutely have that on board.
Starting point is 02:22:52 There's lots of different ways you can do it, whatever is comfortable for the group. The nice thing with us is we are all very close friends and I think we all know each other very well and we all know each other's limits and where we can push, but we do check in with each other. I have definitely had conversations with Kim.
Starting point is 02:23:08 I've definitely had conversations with Katie and with Rhi especially just to kind of be like, is this okay? Is this storyline okay? Is this something we're comfortable with? Do we want to avoid this? And I've learned my lesson. There were certainly things in Lightful campaign that I was like, oh man, I really should have checked with so-and-so if that was okay first.
Starting point is 02:23:28 You know, I should have checked if this was an issue. And it's a learning thing. But I think because we are good friends, we don't necessarily have any strict tools. We just check in with each other. And like after a session or before a session, it will just be a kind of like, hey, are you okay with this? Is this an okay thing?
Starting point is 02:23:43 I'm thinking that this might happen. Is that going to be a be a problem or like i'm going to punch you in the face yeah yeah yeah punch me in the face like there's those kind of conversations take place and i think we're very good at doing that with each other i think also making sure we're kind of on those those levels i think we're also good at not taking our friendship for granted and getting away with certain things just because we can fall back on i'm your mate it doesn't matter it's all good i think we still retain that level of respect for each other so we don't push it just because yeah everyone else is into it at the expense of someone and they hold it to themselves because it's like i don't want to ruin it for everyone else you know so i still think we do check in even if you're friends so be careful of that in your own tables
Starting point is 02:24:26 you know don't feel like you're taking advantage of people's friendships um because like oh they're just my mates that's fine um yeah so well i guess it's more that i'm what i'm saying is more that we don't have a strict tool system because we have those conversations with each other because like the the safety tool systems are like specific things that you can do and i think like even like when we move into campaign three one thing that i want to take on board is like just a little kind of questionnaire to everybody just saying like what things are you not comfortable with like you know i know that like i think everybody's kind of got to the point where you guys know that when i describe combat in dnd it gets a bit visceral sometimes um but you know is there is there a limit to that?
Starting point is 02:25:06 Are you guys going to be like, yeah, don't, can you not, like, you know, describe in gratuitous detail this thing and stuff like that? You know, and you just need to check in with each other. And I think that kind of ties in. I want more squelching. Not wanting to be disruptive with each other. To tie it back to what Rhi was saying, like, that's also, we've all played enough with each other now that it's now learning like what's disruptive to each other's role play as
Starting point is 02:25:29 well like you know what can we get away with what can we push for and stuff like that i think that that was something that we kind of were learning in the early mini series and light fall and stuff like that um and we've kind of got a much better knowledge of where that is um you know don't take uh don't take it personally if other people are like doing something to like you know Rhiannon's gonna jump off the airship because it's awesome and she's laughing about it none of us are like oh Rhiannon why would you do that kind of thing you know like you know we think it's as awesome as you do so yeah yeah there's certain things as well like there's a certain level of comfort that i think we know between us like um i don't particularly care to have love interests in in campaigns because i
Starting point is 02:26:13 just feel like i can't be bothered with that that's i don't even want to think about what my character is interested in in that kind of i guess you're your way. So I'm not going to bother. And you don't push that on me because you know that she's, you put it in front of me. I went, nah, not going to take that. So we're, it's not there. And we did it with, in Lightfall, right?
Starting point is 02:26:37 We did it with Nelistri. Like I made it clear, like Nelistri liked Elora, but there was never a like, he's going to chase you. He was very much like, I've put this out. a like he's gonna chase you he was very much like i've put this out i back away and then you as a player were like you know what yeah okay at the end of the campaign we'll make this a bigger thing and like you know i'll reciprocate it kind of thing and i think we've always done that where if that stuff comes up i put it on the table and then i put my hands up and say like this is yours now like you can choose to engage with it or you can just ignore it and
Starting point is 02:27:05 then that's up to you which is great because it's nobody feels pressured to do something either way it's like it's a level of just yeah you do on that topic we kind of had that kim i mean obviously there was that moment between nova and thalia and like we had that conversation afterwards where because you you were a little bit like quite stunned. Like you were like, Oh, I think Nova as a character would be really taken back by that. Kim,
Starting point is 02:27:30 you were like, Kim doesn't mind, but Nova as a character is a bit taken back. And we wanted to make sure that that distinction, we had that kind of chat, didn't we? I think Kim minded on Nova's behalf because yeah, Nova is very much like a first relationship
Starting point is 02:27:45 blushes at the word ankles you know so the moment with Thalia where like suddenly hand on boob it was very like it was super I was a bit like oh no and I kind of I guess because I was embodying Nova at the time I went bright red and I was like yeah I don't feel comfortable with that like and we spoke about it afterwards and like yeah it was dialed down. It became a story point. And I think I'm so much happier with where immediately, like immediately where that went afterwards.
Starting point is 02:28:14 And it kind of calmed down a bit, rode back a bit. And now that's progressing at a rate I feel comfortable with and Nova feels comfortable with. And yeah, I think that's one thing for us. Yeah. No, I was just going to say that like, so I recently played a couple of games with Roll together and it was interesting because obviously I didn't know any of the team and I think some of them were playing with each other for the first time and they sent out a very
Starting point is 02:28:43 comprehensive questionnaire of like, what do you feel comfortable talking with and it covered a whole range of topics from violence sex um you know kind of bigger topics you know children like do you like interacting with children things like that and we all filled out anonymously um and then it kind of did like you know a summary at the end they kind of collated the answers and we're like okay so these are the things we are definitely not like this is the the red topic stuff this is the comfortable in certain situations and this is the green stuff and then also they operated a the traffic light system where they were like if you feel uncomfortable you know hold up the red card or a card with an x on it like like a piece of paper with an X on it, and we will break. And I think that's a really interesting system.
Starting point is 02:29:28 That's something I don't think we need because, as people have said, we are really good friends, and I think we know when we're pushing boundaries. We can read those social cues. We don't, yeah, exactly. Like, I feel like, Tom, like, you and me kind of, not came close, but we checked in with each other after that episode where Quill and Nova had a massive fight because at the table it got really intense like super intense like i think both of us really got into it and like we had to check out we're cool right we're cool um yeah i think clear
Starting point is 02:29:59 that kind of yeah it was uh at the end of the episode during the note uh the donations we we had to hug at the end because it was like yeah okay did i just have an actual like argument with kim yeah i had to wipe my eyes yeah because of all the spit that came from the opposite side of the table yeah it got aggressive it got real um and to go back to what Trotson said she won even when your friends like even though Kim and I are really good friends that whole moment with Thalia that was like my error because I misread it
Starting point is 02:30:34 like Kim is constantly kind of making jokes about flirting with NPCs and stuff I and so I made the mistake I made a mistake of like making an NPC too forward we then had a chat afterwards and it's like, we can sync it up. But again, that was like, even as friends who know each other really well, that stuff can happen.
Starting point is 02:30:51 So it's very important to have those kinds of conversations and stuff for sure. Hurt me, Mark. Cut my arm off, Mark. See, that's the thing. With Tom, I can cut his eyes out. I can chop his arms off. If I tried to have an npc would wither wither into a husk
Starting point is 02:31:10 i'm still amazed that grunker was a thing that happened because uh i'm i was very impressed that that was a carrot dangled and accepted yeah not a quill though sure not a quill not a quill right another question here this is from crispy a regular supporter and donator crispy said this is
Starting point is 02:31:38 talking about the future of the campaign what are you most looking forward to as you approach the end game and what scares you the most about what you may be facing? I'm very excited to make everyone cry with Lucius's ultimately visceral death. And I'm most scared of that not happening. Okay. Or anyone else?
Starting point is 02:32:04 Any big fears? Any big things that you're like, I hope we get to do this. Like, I hope we get to do X. Fight alongside Siaska. You want to fight alongside Siaska? Oh, cool. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:32:22 I mean, I always want visions to come true and there was that one vision of the ship sailing towards the red star that was different to the other visions that have come about and I want it all to be real I want it to happen now
Starting point is 02:32:39 I in the perfect like plus plus happy ending we managed to max out on Paragon and persuasion we fight Hadar with Siaska, Vala and Starbane like that would be my kind of like you know sent you my problems with that one yeah I know I know. I know. We can sacrifice him. I think Lucius and Sentry both are very anti-Kalos. I want Hadar to flirt with me. That'd be awesome. I want Hadar to eat me.
Starting point is 02:33:19 I'm most scared about Tiangong stuff. I'm really scared about when Tiangong meets Tianrong and I'm scared of losing Tiangong. Oh yeah. Because I think that's a possibility. So, yeah. Do you now? Tianrong. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:33:37 It's great. I mean, I think that that's a bit offensive. I think Tianrong would be very upset with being called Tianrong. They think they're Tian, right, and you're Tiang Rong. Was this a submitted question or were you just trying to gather information from us? This is from Crispy.
Starting point is 02:33:55 Crispy can guarantee that this is part of his question. Okay. So Crispy's working with you. Got it. Okay. I mean, I've played this game with you guys for a long time i have a good idea of what you guys are kind of like looking forward to and excited about for sure uh re just before we move on like anything from you on that one i'm excited for where i think
Starting point is 02:34:17 things are gonna be going there's stuff in the future that i'm looking forward to doing with century and if i think if I think things are going to happen the way I think they're going to happen, I'm scared about what might be coming up and how Sentry is going to react to it. And I don't want to make a bad decision, but at the same time. I love it. No such thing as bad decision. Spicy.
Starting point is 02:34:50 Yeah. Well, we have got a little bit of time. I've got a wrap. I saved some rapid fire questions and then we got a couple from donations as well. Visible Zero asks, what do you think is the most embarrassing thing starbane heard the party do via scrying that's a great one that's a great question oh god oh yeah actually yeah when he's scrying okay yeah okay i mean you guys go go go go we're pretty dumb there's a lot of dumb things
Starting point is 02:35:26 there's a lot of dumb stuff Lucius caught masturbating in his bed wow of course Chris Trott you just went right there I mean I knew he was going to it was so obvious that was what he was going to say
Starting point is 02:35:42 um Tom's going to now make a uh quill posing now they can yeah quill posing for the picture that lucius was masturbating to there we go lovely perfect i'm gonna move on um unicorn dude uh who would you say
Starting point is 02:35:56 who would you say is an npc that you may not have liked when you met them originally but who has grown on you npc you met that you didn't like to start with but has grown on you? That's a hard one. Could be a minor one. Starbane.
Starting point is 02:36:13 Starbane. That's fair. Fitting. I've liked all NPCs so I don't have an answer for that. I don't think we expected Arvel to become as important as he is now
Starting point is 02:36:28 to last as long as he did I think you guys didn't dislike Arvel he was just this dwarven merchant guy and then you guys loved him yeah I agree there's no NPC I didn't like as a player okay oh uh max as a player
Starting point is 02:36:48 maximilian oh yeah yeah i always liked him i didn't expect him to come back yeah he was too uh mark vibadag uh if you had gotten the ring of wishes what wish would each of your characters have made think as if your characters Didn't plan the wish together. This is individual character wishes Wish yeah the grants ring of three wishes so imagine you will get a wish For Alpine To exist come back. Yeah, that's a cool one. Yeah, so like just wish back out I'll find and all the elves and stuff. That'd be cool. Very cool. I would that's a cool one. Yeah, so like just wish back out Alfheim and all the elves and stuff. That'd be cool. Very cool. That would have
Starting point is 02:37:28 changed things. That would have made a difference for sure. Yeah. Wish for solving back. Wish for solving back. Oh. Oh, yeah. Big one. Big, big one. It appears in the middle of Erois caused tidal currents
Starting point is 02:37:44 to destroy the rest of the world. Well done, Sentry! Maybe a little bit like that. I don't know why, maybe a little bit like that. Nova, Lucius, go on. I wish for Nova to have no wishes. You alright? Okay. Wow.
Starting point is 02:37:59 Just go then. Fuck. I don't know because I think Lucius at this point not much as he'd wish for his family to be back it's shaped him into who he is now so I think he'd give it to someone else
Starting point is 02:38:14 that's smarter I'd wish that we could all be friends never gonna happen okay never gonna happen okay never gonna happen all right kim quickly or i'm gonna move on i would wish for tiangong to be fully formed um there you go bam done easy oh look at look at all of you so so wonderful and generous no selfish wishes uh except um tom's maybe bigger dick mud kit pal mud kit pal if you had to switch from playing your character
Starting point is 02:38:49 to an npc which one would you choose i'm gonna veto callous starbane or valor can't pick either callous or valor pick an npc yeah i knew all right i knew that one um hmm I can make a suggestion for Katie if you can't think of one I'm between two I'm between Danica and Sana Sana was the one I was going to suggest because it's very similar to Ayla just a straight up fighty
Starting point is 02:39:22 fighty character Danica's a badass that's a cool one. Also hair matches My hair matches It's gotta be Fucking Lookout You wanna just be little robot little Warforged boy? I love it
Starting point is 02:39:38 Nice Hello, I am the Lookout Well done. I'd love to start with such a nothing character, as in terms of personality, and try and give myself that challenge. What about good old Howard? You could just be Howard the cook.
Starting point is 02:39:53 He's already got so much going for him, I wouldn't do him justice. Yeah, nice. Kim? Tom? NPC. Big cat. Big cat.
Starting point is 02:40:03 Okay, nice. You are a furry in the making Kim Richards you are you very vibes anything wrong with that but you need to embrace it about yourself all right I've seen your final I want to be a big cat like yeah or Thalia one of the other been very last question question smiley fake mon on a scale of one to ten how well can your
Starting point is 02:40:47 character dance and what would be their preferred type of dance Rhiannon go how well can you dance one to ten
Starting point is 02:40:54 and what is your preferred dance Sentry's a terrible dancer she does the classic mum dance with a glass of wine where she's like this
Starting point is 02:41:01 this okay so like a two classic mum dance done classic mom dance yeah one to ten dance skill chicken funky 10 how well though like it's easy for him ayla katie no she's like a one she's like she's sitting on the side of the dance floor on a chair and if anyone tries to get her to dance They're probably going to get hit No So zero
Starting point is 02:41:28 Zero Lucius come on Classical Pride and Prejudice style ballroom dancing And would be a solid nine But would want to flamboyant it up a bit But would be restricted by If he gets too many drinks
Starting point is 02:41:47 does it suddenly turn into like awkward twerking drops split drops split drops showing off i love it what about nova kim minus two and that's the macarena she's got a lot of heart she watched a video of it once but she has body dyslexia. It broke into steps. It's hitting herself in the face. Yeah. It's very like, okay, the video said one, two, wrong arm. It's all, yeah. You can see her thinking about it.
Starting point is 02:42:15 It's dreadful. Although someone could just hit Eli in a mosh pit and I feel like if she can injure someone by running in a circle really, yeah, that could fit. Still one out of ten, if anything. Amazing. Perfect. So there you go. Quill and Lucius would be leading the social endeavors
Starting point is 02:42:35 in a sort of formal dance scenario. Funky chicken. Funky chicken. Hey, man, you're better than, we'll fight everybody who tries, mum dancing and minus two macarena the macarena yeah I suppose
Starting point is 02:42:49 right that is all we have the time for yogis we have to go because there's more awesome tiny teams I believe coming up on yogscast go and support tiny teams on steam we're going to head out there thanks for joining us for our final arc round table our little Q&A we're gonna continue on uh high rollers we've got some
Starting point is 02:43:07 donations and stuff to read out yogis thank you so much we'll see you soon bye bye two weeks bye bye two weeks yogis two weeks see ya um see ya all right yogi we've got a couple more donations um tom do i actually know because i i know which ones I've read out sorry Tom I don't know I do we are marsh dump this is from my goodness Tom re Kim
Starting point is 02:43:34 and Marmat it was too hard to type mark oh no I said it I haven't been in chat for the past month as my PhD has been quite a lot of work and I chat over Zoom with friends at five but just a moist do dono
Starting point is 02:43:50 this is a second donation just to say thank you for all the fun because this has been a lot of fun all the time and Tom all the Tims and Toms and all the Rees and Shannons
Starting point is 02:43:57 Mudkips and Marshdomps thanks for how many years it's been I honestly cannot remember how long it's been thank you for everything thanks Marshdomps it's everything yeah everything I'm glad the donation got cut off it's been. Thank you for everything. Thanks, Marshtomp. It's everything.
Starting point is 02:44:05 Yeah, everything. I'm glad the donation got cut off. It's a Marshtomp classic. Can I just say that one of my favourite moments of our campaign that is not story-related is uncovering who Marshtomp is. It's a good side plot. Just that plot reveal.
Starting point is 02:44:22 Oh, my God. One mistaken dono was all it took amazing mark the ripper uh don't know i'm just gonna vet these as i read them these are kind of big questions we can kind of very rapidly get through them um mark the ripper says what is the part that you look back on and just happy you did it so i guess like a moment where you're just like man i'm super happy i? So I guess like a moment where you're just like, man, I'm super happy I did that thing or like a moment that you're like, oh, really pleased with that went
Starting point is 02:44:50 really well. And then the second one, which we've kind of all answered individually in different areas, like in different things in the past. How did we all get into D&D? For most people, it was playing it through high rollers. I've answered this question. My answer is very different. So I'm just going to kind of throw that to the side. But yeah, a moment that you look back on and you're happy that you did it
Starting point is 02:45:08 any anything come to mind usually it's the moments of combat where the first time i used the the gauntlet that mark created to change ice into acid and vice versa and like do a cool combo move with all that stuff was very satisfying and rewarding aside from all the story moments we've just we've talked about yeah just a cool combat moment and stuff it can be a story moment as well anything else any ideas uh when project flock together came came off and came together and happened when that was a good one that was a lot of work like secretly like me and you sort of like you coming to me with like how much would this be what do i need and yeah that's good yeah i think
Starting point is 02:45:51 i think that's actually my answer as well because i spent i was very apprehensive with quill about getting another wing um because from the very start with well i was being very careful with not being oh i'm so weak because i have one wing or i can't do as much as other people because i have one wing and uh not you played disparaging in any way um so i i was very apprehensive about getting another wing because then i didn't want it to be like oh i've just fixed all my problems because now i have an extra arm right like i didn't want that to be what Quill was, as a road to quote-unquote normality getting another wing back. So there was a moment where I almost didn't want to get that wing,
Starting point is 02:46:35 that project flock together thing. I almost refused it, but I think the way it went and the way that it's been played since, I'm glad I did in the end. and i think that worked out very well um i think it was it was very clear that you were very respectful and you made it a big point that this was a big deal right that's the thing is like i think often when you know a character gets the prosthesis and especially in dnd where it's like oh you can just get a magical thing it's just kind of like oh we've fixed the fixed the problem. And it's like, well, no, there wasn't a problem.
Starting point is 02:47:05 And I think the thing with Quill is that you made it that this was a very meaningful gesture by Nova. And also, like, he kind of took it on as like, this is going to help me do what I need to do kind of thing. It became like a bigger moment, right? Like, I think that that's the difference kind of thing. It wasn't just a hand wave. Ah, we've done it. Fixed it.
Starting point is 02:47:23 Yeah, mainly just Quill has always been capable and was capable before the fix and before he got the project flocked together. So he didn't necessarily need it. You know, like it wasn't vital for him. Yeah. And that was the point I was trying to make. It was a cool thing to add to the character, rather.
Starting point is 02:47:47 Sorry. Cool. All right. Any other points, Marie? Yeah, I was thinking, and then Ultaroids in chat just mentioned when Sentry smashed her axe through the captain's table during the ILS being. And it's one of those moments where, like,
Starting point is 02:48:06 yeah, I was glad I did that because I was almost not going to. I was like, would this... I didn't want to... I almost didn't let Sentry feel that anger because I didn't... I was like, Sentry's not an angry... As I play... I don't play Sentry
Starting point is 02:48:22 as an angry person. But letting her unleash that fury in that moment, I remember, like, everybody's faces going, what? Like, everybody was so surprised by it. It was such a shock. I didn't expect that from Sentry at all. And then when you did it, it was like,
Starting point is 02:48:38 oh, fuck, this is serious. Yeah. It was a big deal. To make those kind of moves, you have to be quite brave because you have to hope that like everyone's going to understand where you're coming from that nobody's going to be like oh like out of character she's mad and stuff like that so it takes quite a lot of guts to do it but they do make such impactful moments where you're just like no yeah like it was cool i'm very cool i think mine was standing up to grats and just giving him hell when he cheated yeah even
Starting point is 02:49:09 if it could have gone as killed i was like nah you know what he needs to hear it so you were pissed off absolutely yeah love it hell yeah well thank you very much mark the ripper die cheese uh this is just a nice message. Hi, Rollers. Not able to watch live today. Sadly going to the city with friends to shop after a successful beginning to a mini campaign. Revisiting a haunted chateau from previous campaign. Y'all have a great day.
Starting point is 02:49:34 Looking forward to watching tonight. Thank you very much. A couple of bit donations. Do you feel like you would return to in-person D&D the second you can? Or does digital have things other than working lockdown? I think digital has given us a lot of benefits that can't be dismissed out of hand. And I think that it definitely works for other people now,
Starting point is 02:49:56 like really, really well. We've definitely talked, Trot and I have been talking about, like, are there ways that we can maybe do some special stuff or like maybe ways that we can still do some stuff in the studio? But also I think that, you know, the digital games are definitely going to be a part of High Rollers moving forward, I think. I think that that's definitely going to be the case, right?
Starting point is 02:50:16 Yeah, I think we're also all in agreement that High Rollers as it is now is the highest quality it has ever been. And to go back to the studio now would be such a massive shift and there'd be other problems we'd have to deal with that would just drop the quality so much. Yeah, studio in the Yogscast for sure. I think that if we had the opportunity to build our own studio, we could fix a lot of those potential issues
Starting point is 02:50:42 and make the quality even better. I think we could make it even better if we could build a lot of those potential issues and make the quality even better i think we could make it even better if we could build our own studio uh that is a distant that is a big it's a big thing like that's we do not have the money and the funds to stuff yeah i mean like over the pandemic we've also um taken earnings from from Patreon to upgrade everybody's microphones. So everybody's on the same microphones. We've upgraded lighting for us. Some of us didn't have good lights.
Starting point is 02:51:13 So in terms of the tech that we've upgraded, it would be a shame to not keep using that because it has upped our quality so much. So, yeah. But like Mark says, we started in the studio with Aroas. It would be fitting for us to end Aroas, of course, around the table and finishing it the way we started it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:36 I think so. At the very least. Looking to the future, we're going to see if possible, which we think it will be. Like Trott and I have got some ideas and we've got some plans um and then looking towards the future i would suggest that yeah people expect there to be more digital games that doesn't mean we won't ever we won't never play in a studio again but i think that it's uh expect it to be a lot more digital gaming um in the future and we'll continue like we bought like all mics and lights for everybody. We bought all
Starting point is 02:52:05 audio interfaces and stuff. We're probably going to look at buying everybody nicer cameras and stuff as well. We want to try and make, and I think that we have succeeded in making High Rollers one of, if not maybe, not the, but definitely one of the best
Starting point is 02:52:22 looking playing remotely games of D&D out there. Like, you know, we're all in the UK. We're not calling across huge parts of the country. Most of us have got like really stable, fast internet. We've all got decent cameras. We've all got decent microphones now. I think what we've achieved a level of quality that we're all very proud of
Starting point is 02:52:41 and that is a very enjoyable experience for you guys as a user. And I think we're going to continue that. Like I said, the dream is to absolutely be, you know, for me, the idea of having a permanent setup studio where the mics are locked in position, the audios, the cameras are all like locked in position. We know that we have full control over it.
Starting point is 02:53:02 Trot's got like a little thing under his desk so he can still do all the music and the lights and stuff like that if we automated our seats to like raise higher and lower depending on our initiative it flashes different colors uh to indicate who's where in the initiative order um stuff like that but yeah I think that you know it's digital is here to stay for a while Hussar donated a bunch of bits a fancy 3D printed model of everyone would be quite a fun thing to print or have pre-painted for a
Starting point is 02:53:38 games and collection I think that's more of a suggestion than a question the way I was reading it you're right miniatures of high rollers would be awesome I think that's more of a suggestion than a question the way I was reading it. You're right. Miniatures of high rollers would be awesome. Do I tell you guys I've got a chat with? We've got our minis, but I think I mentioned that I'm chatting to some friends
Starting point is 02:53:54 of ours that we've done some work with before and they were quite interested in certain things. So, you know, never say never. Exciting times. Sorry, what? Crispy donated. Thank you for a wonderfully entertaining Q&A enjoy a well deserved break looking forward to the resumption of this wonderful story
Starting point is 02:54:11 when you resume thanks very much Crispy uh Seriko uh such a chill stream I will always remember the Mark meltdown around episode 50 always makes me crack up um oh it's not it's not so easy is it Tom oh look at him I can't even say a few words that's great that's funny um uh most of these are just nice comments there's not really questions
Starting point is 02:54:36 is been watching since the start of lightfall never live before but high rolls has managed to get me through gcses to finish in my first year of uni. Stunning illustration. Thank you all so much for all you do. I can't wait to watch more streams. Awesome. Well, thank you very much, Izzy. Ace of Thorns donated. Thank you very much. PC just got around to working again.
Starting point is 02:54:52 Let's try to dono. No question. Just a huge thank you and keep on rolling. Thank you very much. Thanks. Daft Day 41, one discount cinder block for HR Studios, 100 bits. Thank you very much, Daft Day.
Starting point is 02:55:04 I'm sure we can buy one brick. 100 bits. Thank you very much, Tuff. I'm sure we can buy one brick from your bits. Thank you very much. Thank you. Cola Cola Man, love you all. One more hundo. Thank you very much. Another $100 for Cola Cola Man. Thank you so much, Cola Cola Man.
Starting point is 02:55:18 Philip, one, two, three. A very generous donation as well. 34 buckarinos. I've watched you guys from the start of Lightfall and you've been a real constant through my life thank you for the content i've completed my dream of becoming a cancer biologist and want to thank you all personally for your contributions i mean we haven't contributed to that it's all you philip like that's literally you you've done that we've just entertained you for going down that road holy crap and that's awesome what an amazing thing to
Starting point is 02:55:41 do unless in an episode, we said something and you had a mind-blown moment where you were like, wait a minute, Lucius is luscious light. That's it. I know the answer. I would like to believe that. I don't think that that's going to be the case, Tom Hazel. But, you know, they never know. But that's it.
Starting point is 02:56:03 Those are all the questions i have pulled from donations um obviously there were a few more questions on the patreon and the discord but a lot of them were either repeats of stuff that we've already talked about um or they are very specific niche things that i think we're going to try to like you know we'll try and take the time all their spoilers and we'll try and respond to those as individuals or uh in in the future or there'll be things that crop up in the game as well there was a lot of questions about like what is this gonna happen when what what are you gonna do about this so those things will get revealed in time yeah um so that's it uh we are gonna take a couple of weeks as a little vacation and then we will be back with the brand the final the final
Starting point is 02:56:42 arcs really like these big final chapters of saving arois i guess i guess that's what episodes by the way just make that clear it is like an arc yeah yeah it is a i suspect we will probably continue until the end of the year my my my rough gm brain tells me end of the year arois will probably be at the point where it is coming to an end so yeah I know it's going to be a scary one it's specifically the 29th of August we'll be back
Starting point is 02:57:13 if you're watching this on blog and stuff like that 29th of August we'll be back set your calendars perfect we'll put that out on tweets and stuff as well and mention it but yeah thank you all joining us for this little round table and Q&A. It's been nice. I think you're right, Trot. Like having this kind of chat before this big final arc is a nice reminder of like all the cool stuff that's happened
Starting point is 02:57:34 and all the kind of stuff that's gone on in the campaign. And it's going to make going into this final bit very exciting for sure. Absolutely. Yeah. Love it. Love it. Until then, take care and we'll see you in two weeks on the 29th of August. exciting for sure absolutely yeah love it love it until then take care and we'll see you in two weeks on the 29th of August till then bye bye big love bye bye
Starting point is 02:57:53 goodbye bye Thank you.

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